[00:00:03] OKAY, IT'S 6 P.M. AND I'LL CALL THIS TUESDAY, OCTOBER 13TH PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION TO ORDER. [1.CALL TO ORDER] THE FIRST ITEM IS THE INVOCATION. DAVID, WOULD YOU LEAD US, PLEASE? FATHER, WE'RE THANKFUL FOR LIFE. AND LORD, WE PRAY THAT AS WE ENJOY LIFE, THAT WE'LL BE MINDFUL OF THE FACT THAT IT COMES FROM YOU. FATHER, WE'RE THANKFUL FOR THE BREAK IN THE WEATHER. THE COOLER TEMPERATURES ARE GREATLY NEEDED AND GREATLY APPRECIATED. FATHER, I THANK YOU FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL THAT'S HERE TONIGHT AND FOR THEIR PRESENCE ON THIS COMMISSION AND THE STAFF THAT SUPPORTS US, FOR THEIR DEDICATION AND FOR THEIR EXCELLENCE AND THEIR DOING FOR GOOD WORK. THANK YOU, FATHER, FOR LIFE, FOR IT'S IN YOUR NAME WE PRAY. AMEN. PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I'M SORRY? WE DON'T DO THAT ANYMORE. WE DON'T DO THAT ANYMORE? NO DISAPPOINTMENT. AUDIENCE OR THE COMMISSION WANTS TO TALK ABOUT SOMETHING THAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT, NOW'S THE TIME TO DO SO. I DON'T SEE ANY ACTION ON THAT. SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO. WELL, THAT WAS THE CITIZEN'S APPEARANCE, I'M SORRY. CONSENT AGENDA. ALL ITEMS LISTED BELOW ARE CONSIDERED ROUTINE BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND WILL BE ENACTED WITH ONE MOTION. [3. CONSENT AGENDA] CAN I HAVE A MOTION, PLEASE? I MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. I SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION BY CLINT AND A SECOND BY ASHLEY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR HAND. ITEM NUMBER 4. WE HAVE 114 WEST ELLISON STREET, CSP26-015. [4.A.114 W. Ellison Street (CSP26-015): Consider and take possible action on a recommendation on a resolution for a Commercial Site Plan with waivers to landscaping and building setback. (Staff Contact: Emilio Sanchez, Deputy Director)] CONSIDER AND TAKE POSSIBLE ACTION ON A RECOMMENDATION ON A RESOLUTION FOR A COMMERCIAL SITE PLAN WITH WAIVERS TO LANDSCAPING AND BUILDING SETBACK. AND OUR PRESENTER IS MR. EMILIO SANCHEZ. GOOD EVENING, CHAIR, COMMISSIONERS. EMILIO SANCHEZ. PLANNING. EXCUSE ME. DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. THE CASE IS BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS A COMMERCIAL SITE PLAN FOR 114 WEST ELLISON STREET. THE APPLICANTS ARE BRAD BERRY WITH FORUM STUDIOS AND DAVID SHIPMAN WITH SHIPMAN COMPANIES AS THE OWNERS. THEY'RE REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A COMMERCIAL SITE PLAN WITH WAIVERS TO THE LANDSCAPE AND BUILDING SETBACKS FOR A NEW COMMERCIAL BUILDING AT THE INTERSECTION OF SOUTH WILSON STREET AND WEST ELLISON STREET. A LITTLE BIT OF PROPERTY INFORMATION ON THE BACKGROUND FOR THE PROPERTY. THIS IS ZONED CENTRAL COMMERCIAL. IT IS ALSO LOCATED IN THE OLD TOWN OVERLAY DISTRICT. THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO CONSTRUCT A NEW TWO STORY COMMERCIAL BUILDING BUILT IN THE NEOCLASSICAL GEORGIAN REVIVAL ARCHITECTURAL STYLE, WITH WAIVERS TO THE LANDSCAPING AND SETBACKS. THE BUILDING WILL BE PLACED AT A TWO FOOT SETBACK FROM THE PROPERTY LINE, BUT THEIR AWNINGS AND BALCONIES WILL OVERHANG THE SIDEWALK, KIND OF SIMILAR TO WHAT HAS OCCURRED ACROSS THE PLAZA. THIS BUILDING IS KIND OF AN EXTENSION OF THAT CONSTRUCTION OF THE BUILDINGS ADJACENT TO THE PLAZA. WE'RE KIND OF EXTENDING THAT FURTHER DOWN ELLISON STREET, AND THIS BUILDING IS KIND OF CONSTRUCTED TO MIMIC THAT SAME DESIGN APPROACH. IF YOU GUYS CAN REMEMBER THE BUILDINGS THAT ARE ACROSS FROM THE PLAZA HAVE A ZERO FOOT SETBACK AND RECEIVED A SIMILAR WAIVER WITH THE LANDSCAPING SINCE IT WAS ADJACENT TO THE PLAZA, WITH ALL OF THE ENHANCED LANDSCAPING WITHIN THE PLAZA. THIS PARTICULAR APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A WAIVER FOR LANDSCAPING. THEY ARE PROPOSING TO ENHANCE THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAYS LANDSCAPING. SO THEY ARE GOING TO INCLUDE THAT IN THEIR DESIGN. BUT THEY CAN INCLUDE. THEY CANNOT USE THAT PERCENTAGE ON THEIR SITE PLAN WITHIN THEIR PROPERTY LINE SINCE IT'S OUTSIDE OF THE PROPERTY. SO THIS IS THE NEO-CLASSICAL GEORGIAN REVIVAL BUILDING CHARACTERISTICS FROM THE OLD TOWN DESIGN STANDARDS. THE BUILDINGS AREN'T REQUIRED TO BE ALL OF THESE THINGS. THESE ARE JUST SIMILAR CHARACTERISTICS. IF YOU'RE GOING TO DESIGN A NEOCLASSICAL GEORGIAN REVIVAL BUILDING, [00:05:05] 2 TO 4 STORIES IN HEIGHT. THE PROPOSED BUILDING IS TWO STORIES AND COMPLIES OR MEETS THAT CHARACTERISTIC. FULL HEIGHT ENTRANCE PORCH, FULL FACADE, PORTICO OR PORCH WITH ROUND COLUMNS WITH COMPLEX CAPITALS. THIS PARTICULAR DESIGN DOES NOT HAVE THAT. THE FLAT ROOF WITH PARAPET AND METAL CAST OR STONE CORNICE, LOW PITCHED HIP ROOF WITH ROOF LINE BALUSTERS, DORMERS AND CLASSICAL STYLES. THIS DESIGN DOES CONTAIN THOSE ITEMS. RECTANGULAR WINDOWS SOMETIMES ARCHED WITH DOUBLE HUNG SASHES, SYMMETRICAL AND MULTI-PANE. THESE MAY NOT HAVE THE DOUBLE HUNG SASHES OR MULTI-PANED, BUT THEY DO COMPLY WITH. THEY DO CONTAIN THE ELEMENTS OF THE ARCHED WINDOWS AND. I APOLOGIZE. THEY ARE MULTI-PANED. PROMINENT CENTER WINDOW ON THE SECOND STORY, OFTEN ARCHED AND CURVED. THAT DOES CONTAIN THAT DESIGN WITHIN THE DESIGN. DECORATIVE PEDIMENTS, BRACKETS, CANTILEVERED EXTENSIONS, MASONRY COLUMNS, QUOINS, BOTANICAL GARLANDS, ROSETTES, TRIM AND BRACKETS. THIS DESIGN DOES CONTAIN THOSE ITEMS. NOT ALL OF THEM, BUT SOME OF THEM. EXTERIOR WALLS OF BRICK, QUARRIED STONE OR GRANITE, LIMESTONE OR PANELS. THEY HAVE INCORPORATED BRICK WITHIN THEIR DESIGN. THE SCREEN IS SHOWING THE PROPOSED BUILDING SITE PLAN. THIS IS THEIR PROPOSED LANDSCAPE PLAN WITH THE ENHANCEMENTS TO THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY. AND THEN THESE ARE THE BUILDING RENDERINGS. SOME BUILDING ELEVATIONS WITH SIGNAGE PROPOSED SIGNAGE. NOW, THE OLD TOWN DESIGN STANDARDS REVIEW COMMITTEE DID MEET LAST MONTH AT THE END OF SEPTEMBER, AND THEY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL. THEY DID INQUIRE ABOUT THE BUILDING SETBACKS AND LANDSCAPING AS WELL AS THE COLOR. STAFF INFORMED THEM JUST AS I DID YOU, THAT THIS IS A VERY SIMILAR REQUEST TO THE EXTENSION OF THE PLAZA BUILDINGS THAT WERE CONSTRUCTED AND ARE OCCUPIED CURRENTLY, AND HOW THIS IS AN EXTENSION OF THAT DESIGN. THERE WERE NO SPEAKERS OTHER THAN THE APPLICANT. AND AGAIN, THE COMMITTEE DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL BY A VOTE OF 7 TO 0. AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF A COMMERCIAL SITE PLAN WITH WAIVERS TO THE LANDSCAPING AND BUILDING SETBACKS FOR A NEW COMMERCIAL BUILDING AT THIS SITE. I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE, AND THE APPLICANT IS IN THE AUDIENCE TO ALSO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE. QUESTION. GO TO SLIDE 4, PLEASE. WHICH BUILDING DID WE APPROVE? THE ONE WITH THE SIDEWALK OR ONE WITH JUST THE SMALL SIDEWALK? SO THEY BOTH HAVE THE SIDEWALK. I THINK THIS IS JUST A RENDERING. IT'S NOT A TRUE REPRESENTATION OF WHAT'S ON THE GROUND OR WHAT WILL BE ON THE GROUND. AS YOU CAN SEE, IT DOESN'T SHOW THE LANDSCAPING AROUND THE SIDEWALK, BUT ON THE SITE PLAN, IT'S MAINLY MORE CONCERNED ABOUT THE PARKING, WHICH IS SHOWN HERE. SO THEY ARE DOING SOME IMPROVEMENTS TO THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY TO THE EXISTING PARKING SPACES. THEY'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO INCLUDE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE PARKING AND THE SIDEWALK. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS ARE FAMILIAR WITH WHAT'S THERE NOW. IT'S KIND OF A LITTLE WHEN YOU'RE WALKING DOWN THE SIDEWALK, YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TO ZIGZAG A LITTLE BIT TO GET TO THE INTERSECTION. THEY'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO STRAIGHTEN THAT OUT TO MAKE IT A LITTLE MORE. TO MAKE IT ADA COMPLIANT. THEY'RE ALSO GOING TO EXTEND. THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE FIVE FOOT SIDEWALKS. CURRENTLY, THERE'S NOT A FIVE FOOT SIDEWALK THERE, SO THEY'RE GOING TO WIDEN THE SIDEWALK TO MAKE IT ADA AND OLD TOWN DESIGN STANDARDS COMPLIANT, ALONG WITH REPAVING THOSE PARKING AREAS SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DID ON THE OPPOSITE INTERSECTION. MY QUESTION WAS MAINLY WAS THAT THE BUILDING WITH PARKING LOT PARKING IN FRONT OF IT OR THE PARKING NON-EXISTENT? NO, IT WILL HAVE THE PARKING IN FRONT. THAT WAS MY QUESTION. MY APOLOGIES. DO WE KNOW ABOUT HOW MANY SPACES WE'LL HAVE AT THE SITE? I THINK IT SHOWS ON THE SITE PLAN. THE NUMBER OF SPACES. [00:10:02] SORRY. YEAH. THE SITE PLAN SHOULD HAVE THE NUMBER OF SPACES. MY RECOLLECTION IS WE MIGHT LOSE ONE SPACE BECAUSE WE HAVE TO MEET THE ADA REQUIREMENTS. YES, SIR. THE MAIN ISSUE. THERE'S A LIGHT POST AND A FIRE HYDRANT AT THAT CORNER, AND YOU HAVE TO GO UP AND HIT THAT BENCH, AND YOU GOT TO GO AROUND IT AND STEP UPSTAIRS. SO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS PUSH THE SIDEWALK SLIGHTLY MORE NORTH AS IT APPROACHES THE TWO EXISTING SIDEWALKS FROM THE INTERSECTION UP AND MISS THOSE ITEMS AND THEN ADD ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING IN THOSE SPACES. I HAVE A QUESTION. JUST SPEAKING OF THE PARKING, WHAT KIND OF BUSINESS WILL BE IN HERE? BECAUSE I'M JUST THINKING ABOUT HOW MANY PARKING SPACES MIGHT YOU NEED OR NOT NEED? WE WILL. OUR OFFICE WILL BE UPSTAIRS AND WE'RE CURRENTLY LOCATED IN OLD TOWN. RIGHT ACROSS BESIDE BUFFALO BROS ABOVE BASIN CRANE, BIG BIG CRANE. AND DOWNSTAIRS IS NOT FINALIZED YET, BUT THE BREWERY IS LOOKING TO HAVE AN ADDITIONAL AREA. THEY WANT TO KEEP THEIR EXISTING LOCATION, OBVIOUSLY, AND THEY WANT ADDITIONAL SEATING. SO THE BREWERY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE. WELL, THAT WAS WHAT I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT. IF THERE WAS GOING TO BE A RESTAURANT IN THERE AND YOU HAD TO HAVE ONE PARKING PLACE FOR, YOU KNOW, EVERY THREE PEOPLE. I MEAN, IS THAT. SO THE OLD TOWN AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT OLD TOWN, THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS ARE DIFFERENT IN OLD TOWN BECAUSE OF THE OVERLAY DISTRICT. CORRECT. SO THE CENTRAL COMMERCIAL, WHICH IS WHAT THIS PROPERTY IS ZONED, HAS NO MINIMUM REQUIRED PARKING. BUT THE CITY HAS PROVIDED PUBLIC PARKING IN A LOT OF AREAS AROUND OLD TOWN. WE'RE ALSO. STARTING OCTOBER 1ST, I BELIEVE THEY STARTED THE FREE VALET PARKING AS WELL. SO YOU'LL HAVE THE OPTION TO VALET PARK LITERALLY RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THIS. THE TWO PARKING SPACES IN FRONT OF THE MUSEUM IS WHERE THE VALET SET UP WILL HAPPEN. AND THEY WILL TRANSFER THOSE VEHICLES BACK AND FORTH TO WHERE YOU CAN PICK IT UP AND DROP IT OFF AT THAT SAME LOCATION. AND THAT IS FREE OF CHARGE. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, SO WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 6:12. THIS PROPOSED BUILDING, IS THERE GOING TO BE AN ALLEYWAY OR IS IT GOING TO BE ATTACHED TO THE EXISTING BUILDING? THERE WILL BE AN ALLEYWAY BETWEEN US AND THE EXISTING BREWERY. I THINK THE ALLEYWAY IS ROUGHLY 6 FEET. BETWEEN 5 AND 6FT. ONE OF US THINKS 5. ONE OF US THINK 6. SO WE'RE GOING TO BE RUNNING SOMEWHERE IN THERE. WE PLAN ON. I GREW UP HERE MY WHOLE LIFE. THERE USED TO BE A GATE THERE SO PEOPLE CAN'T GET BACK THERE. WE PLAN ON DOING THAT AGAIN SO THAT NO ONE CAN GET THROUGH THERE. BUT TO HAVE CONCRETE THERE TO LET THE WATER OUT, THAT GETS STUCK BETWEEN THE TWO BUILDINGS. ARE YOU READY FOR A MOTION, MR. CHAIRMAN? I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. I RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF CSP 26-6015. I'LL SECOND THAT. OKAY. I HAVE A MOTION BY DAVID AND A SECOND BY CLINT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ITEM PASSES. ALL RIGHT. I DON'T SEE ANY COMMUNITY INTEREST ITEMS OR ANY OTHER ITEMS. NO PUBLIC HEARINGS. AND WE'LL ADJOURN AT 6:13. I CAME IN CONFUSED. I'LL GO OUT CONFUSED. MY APOLOGIES. I WASN'T PREPARED FOR THAT. ARE THERE ANY NOMINATIONS? I KNOW WE DON'T HAVE A FULL ACCOMPANIMENT OF OUR COMMISSIONERS. CAN WE PUSH THIS FOR A MEETING, IF THE COMMISSION PREFERS, OR DO WE WANT TO GO AHEAD AND DO THAT TODAY? I'M NOT SURE IF ANYONE'S HAD ANY CONVERSATIONS ON WHETHER YOU WOULD LIKE TO BE NOMINATED AS CHAIR OR VICE CHAIR FOR NEXT YEAR'S PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. IF IT'S ALL RIGHT TO PUSH IT, WE COULD PUSH IT UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING. I MEAN, IS THAT FINE? [00:15:01] OKAY. WE WON'T TABLE OR TAKE ANY ACTION. WE'LL JUST WE'LL JUST DIRECT STAFF TO PUT IT ON. PUT ON THE NEXT AGENDA. OKAY. WORKS FOR ME. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE? I ADJOURN THE MEETING AT 6:15. THANK YOU. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.