Feb 02, 2026 City Council Regular Meeting

SO, GET WITH MAYOR WHEAT AND SEE IF HE CAN HELP YOU OUT ON THIS.

I HAVE SPOKEN TO JACOB FREQUENTLY, AND HE TOLD ME THAT WE WOULD FIRST HAVE TO APPROACH YOU FOLKS, AND WE'VE BEEN SPEAKING WITH THE PEOPLE IN YOUR OFFICES APPROPRIATELY TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE.

SO, WE WILL SPEAK WITH MR. WHEAT, AND WHAT, SHOULD I ASK MR. WHEAT WHEN I SPEAK TO HIM? WELL, IT SOUNDS LIKE HE'S ALREADY ANSWERED YOU, BUT JUST TELL HIM THAT IF THERE'S SOME THINGS WE NEED TO DISCUSS, MAYBE WORK IT OUT.

BUT THIS ISN'T A DEAD DEAL.

OKAY? OKAY.

WE'RE KIND OF HANDICAPPED ON WHAT WE CAN DO, TOO.

RIGHT.

WELL, I KNOW THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO HOLD ON UNTIL YOU FIND OUT ABOUT, I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER PROPERTIES AND ETJS INVOLVED, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT.

BUT WHEN WE MOVED HERE, WE REALLY THOUGHT WE WERE MOVING TO ALVARADO.

SO, BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH.

WE'LL TRY TO WORK WITH YOU.

SO, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE NO ACTION ON THIS TONIGHT.

THAT BRINGS US TO SECTION 7, DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS.

[Items 7.A & 7.B]

THIS EVENING, THERE ARE TWO ITEMS UNDER DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS.

I WILL READ BOTH INTO THE RECORD, AS WE WILL DO ONE PRESENTATION FOR BOTH.

THEN WE WILL CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARINGS AND THEN CONTINUE ACTION ON EACH ONE INDIVIDUALLY.

SO, 7A IS 1500 COUNTY ROAD 602 VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION, CASE 25-260.

THIS IS TO CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING, CONSIDER AND TAKE POSSIBLE ACTION ON AN ORDINANCE THAT WAS CONTINUED FROM THE JANUARY 5, 2026 COUNCIL MEETING FOR THE VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION OF APPROXIMATELY 80.122 ACRES OF LAND IN THE EXCLUSIVE EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION OF THE CITY OF BURLESON, GENERALLY LOCATED AT 1500 COUNTY ROAD 602.

AND THIS IS BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL ON FIRST AND FINAL READING.

7B IS 1500 COUNTY ROAD 602, CASE 25-258.

THIS IS TO CONTINUE A PUBLIC HEARING, CONSIDER AND TAKE POSSIBLE ACTION ON AN ORDINANCE CONTINUED FROM THE JANUARY 5, 2026 COUNCIL MEETING FOR A ZONING CHANGE REQUEST FROM DEFAULT A AGRICULTURAL TO SF7 SINGLE FAMILY FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF A SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISION WITH MINIMUM LOT SIZES OF 10,000 SQUARE FEET.

THIS IS ALSO BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL ON FIRST AND FINAL READING.

THE PRESENTATION WILL BE THIS EVENING BY TONY MCELWAIN, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DIRECTOR.

MR. MCELWAIN.

THANK YOU, AMANDA.

MAYOR AND COUNCIL, WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO GO THROUGH THE PRESENTATION AGAIN? I THINK WHEN WE LAST MET

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ON THIS ITEM, WE DID OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING.

WHAT'S YOUR PREFERENCE? ANYBODY WANT TO HEAR THE PRESENTATION AGAIN? I HEARD A NOT REALLY, SO.

AT THIS TIME, MAYOR, IF YOU WILL CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR CASE 25-260.

WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE THAT PUBLIC HEARING ON 2260.

AND THEN ALSO, MAYOR, IF YOU WILL CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR CASE 25-258.

AND ALSO ON 25-258.

THANK YOU, SIR.

I DO HAVE A SPEAKER CARD HERE.

DAVE LOCKARD.

I'M DAVE LOCKARD, 1820 COUNTY ROAD 602.

OUR BUSINESS HAS BEEN IN THE CITY OF BURLESON SINCE 1989, DOWN TO CAR TRANSPORT.

WE'RE AT THE BRIAR OAKS OVERPASS.

BEEN LIVING AT 1820 COUNTY ROAD 602 FOR 19 YEARS.

AND IN THAT TIME, I'VE SEEN A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT COME IN THE AREA.

AND I'M A BUSINESS PERSON IN TOWN, SO I'VE SEEN A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT IN THE 20 YEARS, 30 YEARS THAT WE'VE BEEN HERE.

SO I'M NOT UP HERE IN FRONT OF THE COUNCIL VERY OFTEN TO OPPOSE THINGS.

BUT WE'VE HAD TO BAND TOGETHER AND TRY TO HAVE SOME COMMON SENSE OUT IN MY NECK OF THE WOODS BECAUSE THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S ON TAP IS GOING TO CAUSE SOME MORE HARDSHIP FOR THE CITIZENS THAT LIVE OUT IN MY AREA.

THERE'S BEEN A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF CONCRETE POURED IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE OUT THERE, WHICH CAUSES RUNOFF INTO THE QUILL MILLER CREEK.

I'M SURE YOU'VE HEARD THIS SEVERAL TIMES, AND I'M BEATING A DEAD HORSE.

BUT THAT'S A CONCERN, AS WELL AS THE TRAFFIC LEVELS, NOT DURING THE DAY, BUT IN THE MORNINGS AND IN THE EVENINGS OF FOLKS TRYING TO GET UP FROM 602 ONTO RENFRO IS VERY DANGEROUS.

NOT TO MENTION THE CREST AT CHRISTOPHER, WHICH HAS HAD SEVERAL HEAD-ON COLLISIONS AND IS GOING TO JUST CONTINUE TO BE A PROBLEM UNTIL 602 IS WIDENED OR ADDRESSED.

BUT IN THE MEANTIME, I THINK IT'S ILL-ADVISED TO PUT ANOTHER 200 HOMES OR FOUR HOUSES PER ACRE OR WHATEVER THESE FELLOWS WANT TO DO OUT THERE WITH THE LEVEL OF WATER FLOW AND ALL THE OTHER DESTRUCTION IT'S DOING.

I WON'T MAKE IT SHORT AND SWEET.

I BROUGHT A VIDEO, AND MY PLACE SITS ABOUT 100 AND, WELL, QUILL MILLER GOES THROUGH MY PROPERTY FOR ABOUT HALF A MILE.

MY BARN IS BUILT ABOUT 250 FEET AWAY FROM QUILL MILLER CREEK, AND WHEN WE BUILT IT, WE WERE IN A 500-YEAR FLOOD PLAIN, WHICH MEANS 2% OF A CHANCE TO FLOOD IN ANY GIVEN YEAR.

WE'VE HAD THREE FLOODS IN THE LAST 17 MONTHS, AND I'VE VIDEOED SOME OF THEM, AND I WANT TO SHARE THE VIDEOS WITH YOU TONIGHT, AND YOU CAN SEE WHAT I DEAL WITH WHEN WE GET ABOUT 2 INCHES OF RAIN IN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME.

IT DOESN'T TAKE MUCH, AND QUILL MILLER COMES OUT, AND I DON'T THINK IT'D BE ADVISABLE TO BUILD HOUSES ALONG THE QUILL MILLER AREA BECAUSE IT DOESN'T COME OUT JUST 10 FEET.

IT COMES OUT HUNDREDS OF FEET, AND IT INUNDATES THE ENTIRE AREA.

SO I APPRECIATE Y'ALL'S TIME, AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE VIDEO, I'D APPRECIATE IT.

I GOT QUESTIONS.

YOU ONLY HAVE ABOUT 30 SECONDS LEFT, SO I WANT TO TALK TO YOU A SECOND.

THAT LAND'S GOING TO GET DEVELOPED SOONER OR LATER, AND I KNOW THE SIZE HAS KIND OF TROUBLED THE COUNCIL ALSO.

IF THEY DEVELOP THIS, THEY'RE GOING TO DO FLOOD STUDIES THAT COULD BENEFIT YOU.

IS THERE A COMPROMISE TO GO INTO A LARGER LOT FOR THESE GUYS? TO THAT POINT, MAYOR, WHEN PINNACLE ESTATES CAME IN FIVE OR SIX YEARS AGO, I WAS HERE BEFORE THE COUNCIL AGAIN, AND I WAS TOLD THE SAME THINGS, THAT IT'S GOING TO BE A SMART DEVELOPMENT.

IT'S GOING TO EASE THE STRAIN ON THE WATER SYSTEMS THERE, AND I WAS LAUGHED AT, AND I BROUGHT A LAWYER AND WENT BACK AND FORTH, AND WE INITIALLY DEFEATED PINNACLE ESTATES, AND THEN SOMEHOW IT GOT BROUGHT BACK UP AND APPROVED.

WAS IT A DIFFERENT COUNCIL? YES, SIR.

MUCH DIFFERENT COUNCIL, PRETTY MUCH.

SO I'VE HEARD THAT BEFORE, AND I'M HOPEFUL THAT THAT STUFF HAPPENS, BUT IN MY EXPERIENCE, IT HASN'T HAPPENED.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE VIDEO, THE VIDEO SHOWS WATER 300 FEET AWAY FROM QUILMILLER CREEK ON MY PLACE, AND MORE CONCRETE'S ONLY GOING TO MAKE IT WORSE.

IT'S NOT GOING TO MAKE IT BETTER, BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING ELSE

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TO DO TO HELP THAT WATER FLOW, AND THERE'S NO OTHER PLACE FOR THE WATER TO GO.

I'VE GOT QUESTIONS FOR THIS OTHER BUNCH WHEN THEY GET UP HERE.

THANK YOU, DAVE.

I APPRECIATE IT.

SURE, AND IF YOU'LL SHOW THE VIDEO NOW, I'D APPRECIATE IT.

HOW MANY INCHES OF RAIN WAS THIS, DAVE? WOW.

I DO HAVE ANOTHER SPEAKER CARD.

IT WAS AN ONLINE SPEAKER CARD IN REFERENCE TO THIS ITEM.

TIM ADKINS.

THE PROPOSED SUBDIVISION WOULD NOT BE CONSISTENT WITH THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOOD.

LOSS OF CONTINUITY.

THAT SIGNIFICANCE OF AN INCREASE IN CARS TRAVELING IN AND OUT OF 602 WOULD NOT ONLY CREATE HIGHER RISK FOR ACCIDENTS, BUT RISK TO SCHOOL BUSES AS WELL.

THE ENTRY AND EXIT TO THAT NEW NEIGHBORHOOD WILL BE QUITE BUSY AND WILL BE BLINDED BY THE HILL TO TRAFFIC HEADING TOWARDS RENFRO STREET.

I RECOMMEND DISAPPROVAL.

IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE CITY COUNCIL DURING THIS PUBLIC HEARING? AMANDA, THE APPLICANT HAS PREPARED A PRESENTATION.

IF THE COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT.

MR. CLAY CHRISTIE'S HERE REPRESENTING THE.

JUST A SECOND, TONY.

I'M SORRY.

AMANDA, A CITIZEN FROM THAT SIDE OF TOWN SENT ME A LETTER AND ASKED IF I READ IT.

IS THAT POSSIBLE? OR DO I NEED TO GIVE IT TO YOUR OFFICE? SO YOU CAN, IF YOU'D LIKE TO READ IT, YOU CAN READ IT INTO THE RECORD.

SURE.

THIS IS FROM MR. AND MRS. HABER STROLL.

SAYS DEAR CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.

I WANT TO EXPRESS MY OPPOSITION TO THE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE REQUEST CASE 25 DASH TWO FIVE EIGHT FOR THE PROPERTY AT 1500 COUNTY ROAD 602.

I URGE YOU TO DENY THE REQUEST TO REZONE THE LAND FROM ITS CURRENT DESIGNATION TO SF 10 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.

DURING A PAST COUNCIL MEETING, AN SF 10 DEVELOPMENTAL PROPOSAL WAS REJECTED, NOT DUE TO RESIDENT SENTIMENT AGAINST DEVELOPMENT IN GENERAL, BUT BECAUSE ITS DESIGN AND DENSITY DID NOT HARMONIZE WITH THE EXISTING CHARACTER OF EAST BURLESON COUNTY ROAD 602 RESIDENTIAL AREA.

THE SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENTS, INCLUDING THE ACTIVE NORTH BRIDGE COURT AND ESTABLISHED TAYLOR BRIDGE COURT GATED COMMUNITIES EXCLUSIVELY FEATURE ONE ACRE PLUS CUSTOM HOME LOTS.

EXCUSE ME.

A NEWLY BUILT CUSTOM HOME ON A LARGE INTERMEDIATE LOT FURTHER REINFORCES THIS RESET, THIS ESTABLISHED PATTERN, CREATING A CLEAR PRECEDENT FOR LARGE LOT RESIDENTIAL USE.

THE OTHER SIGNIFICANT CONCERN IS THE COUNTY ROAD 602 ITSELF.

AND SF 10 DEVELOPMENT WOULD PLACE UNDUE STRAIN ON THE COUNTY ROAD THAT WAS DESIGNED TO SUPPORT AN AGRICULTURE AREA, NOT A DENSE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY ACCESS TO THE INTERSECTION OF 602 AND RENFRO STREET BECOMES HIGHLY RESTRICTED FOR THE CURRENT RESIDENTS DURING THIS DRIBBLING ELEMENTARY SCHOOL MORNING DROP-OFF AND AFTERNOON PICKUP PERIOD.

THE DAILY PRESENCE OF A BURLESON POLICE OFFICER DIRECTING TRAFFIC AT THE WEST RENFRO STREET SCHOOL ENTRANCE CONSISTENTLY CAUSES TRAFFIC TO BACK UP BEYOND THE 602 INTERSECTION.

THE UNANIMOUS RECOMMENDATION OF DISAPPROVAL BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION EIGHT TO ZERO CLEARLY INDICATES THAT THIS PROPOSED CHANGE IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE COMMUNITY'S VISION AND PLANNING PRINCIPLES FOR THE AREA.

FOR THESE REASONS, I STRONGLY SUPPORT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION AND RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT THE CITY COUNCIL VOTE TO DENY CASE 25-258.

SINCERELY, STEVE AND NIKKI HARBERSTARTH.

CLAY CHRISTIE CLAYMORE ENGINEERING, UH, 32 31 HARWOOD DRIVE IN BEDFORD.

UH, APPRECIATE YOUR TIME THIS EVENING GIVING US A CHANCE TO PRESENT OUR PROPOSED PROJECT 602 BURLESON RESIDENTIAL.

UM, WHAT WE HAVE HERE TODAY IS, UM, JUST KIND OF MIDWAY DOWN ON 602.

I KNOW THERE'S BEEN SOME PRESENTATIONS ON THIS BEFORE AND EVERYTHING ELSE, BUT WE'LL KIND OF GO THROUGH SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE DETAILS OF IT AND THINGS FAIRLY QUICKLY, AND THEN WE'LL GET ONTO THAT FOR OPEN DISCUSSION.

SO YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

SO THIS IS JUST SHOWING THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP SHOWING THAT WE WERE IN A NEIGHBORHOODS, PART OF THE FUTURE LAND USE.

AND, UH, WHILE OUR PRESENT, DEVELOPMENT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE OF WHAT WAS PLANNED HERE, UM, FOR THE OVERALL DEPARTMENT OF WHAT IS THERE TODAY.

UM, WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE AND GET INTO DETAILS.

SO THIS IS THE PROPOSED LOT.

IT'S KIND OF ZOOMED IN ON THE SITE PLAN.

UM, WHAT WE HAVE

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BEFORE YOU TODAY IS 96 LOTS, UM, THAT ARE PROPOSED.

AND AT FIRST GLANCE, WHENEVER YOU THINK 96 LOTS, THAT SEEMS MAYBE LIKE, AS I MENTIONED AHEAD, THAT THAT IS NON-CONSISTENT WITH WHAT THE SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT IS.

UM, HOWEVER, WE HAVE, UM, ALMOST 2 MILLION SQUARE FEET OF OPEN SPACE TO THE WEST.

SOME OF THAT IS FLOODPLAIN THAT WAS MENTIONED, UH, A MINUTE AGO, BUT A PART OF THAT IS ALSO DEVELOP A LAND IT'S ON FURTHER ON THE LEFT SIDE.

THE PROBLEM WITH THAT IS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO THROUGH IMPACT THE FLOODPLAIN.

YOU'D HAVE TO GET A ROAD ACROSS, YOU'D HAVE TO PUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN AND IMPACT THAT FLOODPLAIN AT A, YOU KNOW, PRETTY SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT AND IMPACT THAT FLOODPLAIN TO POTENTIALLY HAVE SOME OTHER IMPACTS TO THAT UPSTREAM AND DOWNSTREAM OF THE LAND.

SO WHENEVER WE ARE WORKING TOGETHER WITH OUR TEAM AND OUR CLIENT AND KIND OF THE CITY, WE KIND OF CAME TO, UM, WHAT WE WANT TO PROPOSE TO YOU GUYS WAS AN OPTION THAT KEPT THAT INFRASTRUCTURE OUT, KEPT THAT NATURAL PORTION OF IT, KEPT THAT OPEN LAND AND THAT OPEN SPACE, NOT ONLY FOR THE DEVELOPMENT, UM, BUT FOR THE SURROUNDING AREAS THAT ARE USED TO LOOKING OUT INTO THE CREEK LAND AND LOOKING AT THAT.

AND SO WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE HAVE CONCENTRATED THE HOMES ALONG 602, UM, TO GIVE US 96 LOTS.

THIS IS 10,000 SQUARE FEET.

UM, 10,000 SQUARE FOOT LOTS.

HOWEVER, WHENEVER WE ARE LOOKING AT THE OVERALL GRAND SCHEME, THIS GIVES US ABOUT ONE UNIT PER 0.72 ACRES.

SO WE KNOW THAT A LOT OF THE DIRECT SOUNDING, UH, DIRECTLY SURROUNDING AREAS ARE TYPICALLY ABOUT A ONE ACRE, UM, UNIT PER LOT.

AND WE'RE CLOSE TO THAT.

IF YOU GO JUST A LITTLE FURTHER NORTH AND A LITTLE BIT, UH, TO THE WEST, UH, FROM WHERE WE'RE PROPOSED, THOSE LOTS ARE A LITTLE BIT SMALLER THAN WHAT WE WERE PROPOSING ON THE UNIT PER ACRE.

AND SO WE TRIED TO FIND A BALANCE THERE THAT WE COULD HAVE OF HAVING THAT APPROPRIATE UNIT PER ACRE AND STILL MAINTAINING THE AMOUNT OF UNITS PER THE OVERALL SIZE OF THE LAND.

AND SO WE WORKED WITH THAT.

UM, WE DID DO A TRAFFIC STUDY THAT WAS SUBMITTED AND SHOULD BE IN YOUR PACKET THERE.

UM, WE'VE HEARD FROM THE RESIDENTS THAT 602 IS, UM, CAN BE CUMBERSOME.

UM, WE DO HAVE TURN LANES THAT WE HAVE PROPOSED COMING INTO OUR SITE, UH, OFF OF 602 THAT WAS RECOMMENDED THROUGH THE TRAFFIC STUDY.

AND WE ARE COMMITTED TO DEVELOPING THAT.

UM, WE ALSO HAVE A LARGE GREEN BELT THAT WE ARE PROPOSING ALONG 602 THAT IN THE EVENT THAT 602 IS WIDENED OR IS ACCOMMODATED, THAT WE HAVE TAKEN THAT INTO ACCOUNT FOR THOSE RESIDENTIAL HOMEOWNERS.

SO THOSE UNITS SHOULD NOT GET SMALLER.

UM, AND THOSE LOTS WILL NOT GET SMALLER WITH POTENTIAL RIGHT AWAY DEDICATION IN THE FUTURE.

UM, IN REGARDS TO THE DRAINAGE, UM, WE ARE AWARE OBVIOUSLY OF THE CREEK THAT RUNS THROUGH THERE AND THE LARGE FLOODPLAIN, THE AMOUNT THAT ARE THERE.

UM, IF WE ARE ABLE TO BE PASSED AND ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT, UM, THAT'S THE FIRST THING ON OUR AGENDA IS TO START WITH OUR HYDRAULICS, OUR HEAVY HYDRAULICS, AND OUR FLOOD STUDY TO GET INTO THE EXACT DETAILS OF HOW WE CAN MITIGATE SOME OF THAT WATER, HOW WE CAN, UM, MITIGATE FOR WHAT WE HAVE ON THE INCREASE IN THE IMPERVIOUSNESS, UM, ADDING THE STREETS AND THE ROADS AND THE BUILDING FOOTPRINTS OF THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT HAPPEN WHENEVER YOU HAVE DEVELOPMENT TO, UM, TRY TO TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE NO, THAT WE DON'T HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT DOWNSTREAM.

UM, OBVIOUSLY THERE, THERE IS SOME ISSUES THAT APPEARS MAYBE DOWNSTREAM THAT WERE PRESENTED IN THAT VIDEO TODAY, BUT WE'LL HAVE TO GET OUR STUFF TOGETHER TO ENSURE THAT WHAT WE DO, UH, DOESN'T COMPOUND WHAT, WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN THE PAST.

UM, AND THEN WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO HAND IT OVER TO MY PARTNER, UH, JOHN HUFFMAN.

I'M GONNA LET HIM COME UP AND TALK JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT A COUPLE OTHER FEW THINGS BEFORE YOU GO.

HAVE Y'ALL TALKED TO THE COUNTY, UH, COUNTY ABOUT THE ROAD? NO, WE HAVE NOT HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH COUNTY ABOUT THE ROAD, UM, AT THIS POINT IN TIME RIGHT NOW.

UM, MAINLY BECAUSE WE DON'T, WE DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE A PROJECT OR NOT.

SO, UM, BUT WE HAVE DONE OUR TRAFFIC STUDY ON THE ROAD.

WE HAVE ANALYZED WHAT IT IS.

WE HAVE FOLLOWED STANDARD TECH STOCK, UM, THRESHOLD MATERIAL FOR EVERYTHING THAT WE HAD.

WE'VE SUBMITTED THAT, UM, TO THE CITY AND WE'VE WORKED WITH YOU GUYS WITH THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT TO ANALYZE THAT.

UH, WE ARE AWARE THAT OUR DRIVEWAYS WILL HAVE TO BE PERMITTED THAT WAY.

UH, COUNCIL, NAME'S JOHN HUFFMAN, 1991 EAST ISLAND, SOUTH LAKE, TEXAS.

JUST WANT TO SAY, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR CONSIDERING THIS PROJECT.

WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT INVESTING HERE IN BURLESON.

YOU GUYS HAVE AN AMAZING THING GOING ON HERE.

WE WANT TO BRING NEW HOMES AND NEW FAMILIES TO YOUR CITY, UM, AND NEW, NEW TAX BASE.

UH, THAT'S WHY WE'RE ASKING FOR ANNEXATION OR BEFORE THE ZONING CHANGE.

UM, BUT WE DO WANT TO CONSIDER BOTH OF THOSE CONCURRENTLY, OF COURSE.

UM, THERE'S ALSO AN ISSUE WITH THE CCN.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE KIND OF WHERE THAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU.

UM, YEAH.

SO THE SEAT THERE, WE ARE TECHNICALLY NOT IN YOUR CCN.

UM, THE CCN RUNS.

WE RELEASED THE CCN TO THIS AREA.

I'M SORRY, WE RELEASED IT, MEANING WE HAD IT AND WE LET IT GO.

SO WE WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH PUBLIC UTILITY COMMISSION ALL OVER AGAIN TO EVEN ASK, CAN WE SERVE THIS? AND I AM NOT, I LIVE ON THE EAST SIDE OF TOWN AND I'VE ALREADY, WE'VE ALREADY HAD AN, HAD A DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL

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ON THIS COME UP BEFORE US, SINCE I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL AND I CAN REPEAT ALL OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE SAID BEFORE, OR YOU COULD JUST GO BACK TO A COUNCIL MEETING AND WATCH, BUT THIS, THE EAST SIDE OF TOWN TO ME IS SPACE AND, UM, IT'S GREEN.

IT'S GOT, IT'S JUST, IT'S, IT'S NOT TO SAY THAT I DON'T, THAT NEIGHBORHOODS WON'T EXIST THERE.

OBVIOUSLY THEY DO, BUT I THINK PEOPLE GO TOWARD, THEY NAVIGATE TOWARD THAT SIDE OF TOWN WHEN THEY DON'T WANT THE DENSITY.

THEY DON'T WANT HOUSES SITTING ON TOP OF EACH OTHER.

THERE ARE GORGEOUS DEVELOPMENTS SURROUNDING WHERE YOU'RE LOOKING AT.

UM, THERE'S ONE, WHAT, A COUPLE OF, ANOTHER MILE SOUTH, VIRIDIAN, THAT'S GOT BEAUTIFUL, LOTS, BEAUTIFUL, BIG HOMES.

THERE ARE OTHER WAYS TO BUILD AND DEVELOP AND GIVE PEOPLE IN BURLESON VARIETY, NOT EVER, YOU KNOW, WE NEED SOMETHING FOR EVERYONE.

THOSE THAT WANT SPACE, THOSE THAT CAN AFFORD SPACE, THOSE THAT CAN AFFORD MORE OF A FOOTPRINT, THOSE THAT WANT TOWNHOMES.

AND WE JUST, WE WILL NEED A VARIETY.

AND THAT'S WHAT I'M MOSTLY IN SUPPORT OF, BUT PARTICULARLY ON THE EAST SIDE, THERE WAS A REASON WE GAVE UP THAT CCN.

WE GAVE IT UP BECAUSE WE SAID, I THINK IN TIME AND TIME AGAIN, WE HAVE RESIDENTS COME IN FROM THE EAST SIDE.

WE HAVE SOME THAT ALREADY LEFT A FORMER MAYOR OF BURLESON THAT JUST SAID LIKE, THIS ISN'T WHAT WE WANT TO SEE ON THIS SIDE OF TOWN.

AND WE AGREED A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.

AND THAT'S WHY WE RELEASED THE CCN.

SO WE WOULD HAVE TO START THAT ALL OVER.

AND I THINK THE RESIDENTS HAVE SPOKEN LOUD AND CLEAR.

I KNOW I'VE BEEN INUNDATED WITH EMAILS AND PICTURES AND I WAS BACK THEN WHEN WE VISITED THIS, WHAT, TWO YEARS AGO FOR ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT.

I HAVE A FRIEND WHO, BECAUSE OF THE DEVELOPMENT THAT WE DID APPROVE, THE BIT MORE DENSITY HER, BECAUSE OF ALL THAT NEW CONCRETE AND BUILDING OF THINGS, QUILL MILLER BACKED INTO HER YARD.

IT FLOODED HER SWIMMING POOL.

SHE HAD TO, HER ENTIRE FIRST FLOOR OF HER HOUSE HAD TO BE COMPLETELY REBUILT BECAUSE OF QUILL MILLER FLOODING INTO HER BACKYARD.

SO WE'VE SEEN TIME AND TIME AGAIN, EVIDENCE OF, I KNOW I HEAR YOU AND I'M NOT MEANING TO BE DOWN ON.

YES.

YOU HAVE TO HAVE A FLOOD STUDY AND YES, THE ENGINEERING IS DONE, BUT I LIVE IN A DEVELOPMENT.

THAT'S JUST RIGHT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF WHERE YOU'RE CONSIDERING BUILDING OFF OF HIDDEN CREEK.

AND WE HAVE FLOODING ISSUES BECAUSE THEY, ONCE IT'S APPROVED, YOU KNOW, THE DEVELOPMENT, HOWEVER IT'S DONE, I DON'T EVEN KNOW.

WE ALL HAD TO GO BACK AND SPEND LOTS AND LOTS OF MONEY TO GET RETAINING WALLS INSTALLED AND FRENCH DRAINS PUT IN.

IT WAS, IT, THIS WAS AFTER, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THESE THINGS WERE EQUALLY ASKED OF THOSE DEVELOPERS TOO.

SO I'M PARTICULARLY SENSITIVE TO IT BECAUSE I EXPERIENCED IT IN MY OWN NEIGHBORHOOD.

I JUST DON'T THINK I TELL ME THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD ACRE LOTS OR BIGGER.

I THINK THAT IT'S A FABULOUS FIT OVER THERE, BUT THERE'S A REASON THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL SAID NO AND LET GO OF THE CCN.

AND I JUST DON'T THINK WE NEED TO REVISIT IT AGAIN.

NO, TOTALLY UNDERSTAND COUNCILMAN.

I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS.

AND, AND FRANKLY, THE, THE PERSONAL EXPERIENCE YOU'VE HAD WITH THIS, I TOTALLY GET IT.

ABSOLUTELY GET IT.

AND WE'RE NOT TRYING TO MAKE THE DRAINAGE OR ANYTHING ANY WORSE FOR ANY RESIDENTS.

THAT'S NOT THE GOAL.

THE GOAL IS TO DELIVER FAMILIES TO YOUR CITY IN, IN, IN A QUALITY WAY THAT DOESN'T HURT ANYBODY ELSE WHO'S CURRENTLY LIVING.

SO TOTALLY GET IT.

TOTALLY UNDERSTAND.

THERE IS AN ECONOMIC ISSUE.

I MEAN, ANYTIME WE'RE DOING RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, THERE'S A MINIMUM NUMBER OF LOTS THAT MAKES A PROJECT VIABLE.

AND SO THE REALITY IS IF ACRE LOTS WERE VIBRANT, TO BE A REAL HONEST, IF ACRE LOTS WERE VIABLE, WE WOULDN'T BE HERE.

WE WOULD HAVE ALREADY, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPED IT IN THE COUNTY AND BE DONE.

BUT WE WANT TO BRING SOMETHING THAT WORKS FOR OBVIOUSLY OUR CLIENT, THE LANDOWNER, WE WANT TO BRING SOMETHING THAT WORKS FOR THE CITY.

SO IF THERE'S A WAY TO TALK WITH YOU GUYS, IF THERE'S A DENSITY THAT YOU CAN GET YOUR, YOUR HEADS AROUND OR THAT, THAT MAKES SENSE FOR THE CITY IN THIS AREA, TOTALLY GET IT.

YOU KNOW, WE, WE BROUGHT THIS THOUGHTFULLY.

IT WASN'T JUST, WE DIDN'T JUST LIKE DUST OFF THE PRIOR APPLICATION AND COME.

THIS IS, DOES MATCH THE DENSITY THAT WE SEE NORTHWEST OF THE SITE.

IN FACT, EVEN ADJACENT TO THE SITE, I THINK WE, WE HAVE, BUT SO, AND IT'S CONSISTENT WITH YOUR MASTER PLAN.

WE DON'T FEEL LIKE IT'S TOTALLY OUT OF CHARACTER WITH, WITH WHAT THE CITY OF BURLESON SAID THAT YOU GUYS WANT HERE.

TOTALLY UNDERSTAND.

IF MAYBE THIS PLAN DOESN'T WORK, HAPPY TO WORK ON IT WITH YOU THOUGH.

AND, AND LET ME ASSURE YOU THAT GOING BACK TO WHAT I FIRST SAID, TOTALLY UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN AND WE WILL BE LASER FOCUSED ON IT THROUGHOUT.

WE WANT TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS.

AND I, I'M NOT, I NOW APOLOGIZE IF I'VE COME OVER, COME ACROSS, BUT WE'VE REVISITED THIS.

YEAH, TOTALLY GET IT.

AND I UNDERSTAND THIS IS, THIS IS LAND THAT SOMEONE WANTS DEVELOPED AND THEY SHOULD RIGHTFULLY BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, SEE WHAT, WHAT THEIR LAND CAN PRODUCE.

YES, MA'AM.

BUT YOU'RE, YOU'RE RIGHT.

I KNOW THAT THOSE HIGHER DENSITIES HAT WAS APPROVED SINCE I'VE BEEN SITTING HERE, BUT I DRIVE EAST RENFRO MULTIPLE TIMES A DAY.

602 IS A NIGHTMARE.

IF YOU ARE COMING UP TO, UP BACK TOWARD RENFRO, IT'S A GAME OF CHICKEN.

IT NEEDS A STOPLIGHT.

IT NEEDS TO BE REALIGNED.

THERE'S SO MUCH WORK THAT HAS TO BE DONE AND IT'S

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ON TECH DOTS.

RADAR TECH.

THOUGHT HAS HAD TO BE DONE.

HAD MONEY TO EXPAND RENFRO FOR ABOUT 20 YEARS.

BUT IT JUST, I DON'T KNOW WHEN THAT'S GOING TO ACTUALLY HAPPEN.

AND IT IS, IT'S A LOT OF TRAFFIC AND I'M NOT, OBVIOUSLY LAND OUT THERE IS GOING TO DEVELOP, BUT IT'S, 602 IS DANGEROUS.

I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND, AGAIN, SAME COMMENTS, NOT INTERESTED IN EXACERBATING THE SITUATION.

WHAT I WOULD JUST ASK IS NOT PUNISH THE CURRENT LAND OWNER FOR TXDOT'S FAILURE AND DELAY.

AND ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO HELP.

THAT'S THE UNFORTUNATE PART, RIGHT? IS WE DON'T KNOW.

NO DOUBT.

I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THAT THIS OWNER WANTS TO DEVELOP THEIR LAND AND THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO.

YES, MA'AM.

BUT THE UNFORTUNATE THING IS YOU HAVE OTHER PARTIES AT PLAY THAT WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER.

WE DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT THEIR TIMEFRAME IS GOING TO BE.

AND AS A MUNICIPALITY, WE MADE A DECISION KNOWING GROWTH.

WE WANT A VARIETY OF HOME OPTIONS IN BURLESON.

I WANT BIG, SMALL, COMBINED, BUT THERE'S SOMETHING TO BE SAID ABOUT WHERE THOSE TYPES OF DEVELOPMENTS SHOULD EXIST.

RIGHT? IN MY OPINION, THE EAST SIDE IS WHERE THERE'S SPACE.

AND NOW THAT WE'RE MOVING TOWARD THE WEST, WE NEED TO LOOK AT OPTIONS FOR DENSITY AND WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? AND WE HAVE KIND OF PUT MORE FOCUS ON GROWING DENSELY TOWARDS LIKE, AS WE GO TOWARD THE WEST SIDE OF TOWN.

WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE IS STILL TO BE DETERMINED, BUT IN MY OPINION, WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION, WE HASHED IT OUT AND WE ULTIMATELY CAME TO, THIS IS KIND OF HOW WE SEE THE EAST SIDE GROWING, SLOWER, MORE VAST, BIGGER LOTS.

LET'S FOCUS OUR ENERGY OTHER AREAS.

AND SO WE LET GO OF THAT CCN BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW HOW THE REST OF THE CITY MIGHT DEVELOP AND KNOWING THE EAST SIDE WASN'T REALLY THAT IN FAVOR OF DENSE DEVELOPMENT.

TOTALLY UNDERSTAND.

THE ISSUE THAT YOU SAID A WHILE AGO, IT'S NOT GONNA BE ANY WORSE ON THE NEIGHBORS.

FOR US TO APPROVE THIS, I WANT YOU TO FIX THIS PROBLEM.

I DON'T WANT IT JUST TO GET YOU BY.

YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING? YES, MAYOR.

JUST SO THAT I CAN BE SURE TO DO THIS.

I HATE TO INTERVENE IN THIS, BUT THIS IS THE LAWYER BEING PROTECTED WITH THE RECORD.

THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF THE PUBLIC HEARING.

WE NEED TO LET THE APPLICANTS FULLY EXPLAIN THEIR PROPOSALS OR THEIR REQUEST BEFORE WE ENGAGE IN COUNCIL DEBATE ON THE MERITS OF THE PROJECT BECAUSE THEN WE DON'T HAVE A FULL RECORD.

SO IT MIGHT BE WISE TO WITHHOLD OUR QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSIONS UNTIL THEY'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPLAIN WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

AND THE PEOPLE WHO ALSO WANT TO SPEAK IN THE PUBLIC HEARING, EXPLAIN WHAT THEY WANT TO DO, OKAY? WE'RE GONNA LEAVE YOU ALONE FOR A FEW MINUTES, OKAY? SO WHERE DO WE STAND ON THIS? ARE YOU THROUGH WITH YOUR PRESENTATION? IF YOU ALL HAVE FURTHER MATERIAL TO PRESENT, I THINK THE COUNCIL'S ENTHUSIASM GOT A LITTLE AHEAD OF THE TEXT HERE, BUT WE NEED TO LET YOU EXPLAIN WHAT YOU WANT AND WHY SO THE RECORD'S COMPLETE FOR THE COUNCIL TO DECIDE WHAT THEY WANT TO DO.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE DONE OR NOT.

NO, I THINK WE'VE SAID WHAT WE WANTED TO SAY.

I THINK YOU GUYS UNDERSTAND WHAT'S KIND OF IN FRONT OF YOU.

BUT LET ME JUST, AGAIN, EMPHASIZE, NUMBER ONE, WE ARE GONNA BE GOOD NEIGHBORS.

WE WANT TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS TO, NOT ONLY OUR PHYSICAL NEIGHBORS, BUT ALSO TO THE ENTIRE CITY OF BURLESON.

AND NUMBER TWO, WE JUST WANT THIS TO BE A COLLABORATIVE THING.

SO IF YOU GUYS GIVE US SOME DIRECTION ON WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR, THEN WE'RE HAPPY TO DIG IN AND DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO, LIKE I SAID, BE GOOD NEIGHBORS.

SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, JOHN.

SO IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL DURING THIS PUBLIC HEARING? IF YOU COULD PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, AND THEN FOLLOW UP WITH THE SPEAKER CARD.

COME ON UP TO THE MIC.

HELP HER OUT, TONY.

OKAY, WELL, I'M CINDY COLLIN, AND I LIVE AT 616 JC COURT, AND JC IS THE ONE THAT WILL, I GUESS, BASICALLY DEAD END INTO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.

REALLY, I JUST WANT TO REITERATE WHAT OTHERS HAVE ALREADY SAID.

602 IS DANGEROUS.

IT'S DIFFICULT TO GET ONTO RENFRO.

602 WAS NOT BUILT FOR THIS TYPE OF TRAFFIC.

SO WITHOUT WANTING TO KEEP MORE RESIDENCES, 602, IN MY OPINION, HAS TO BE ADDRESSED BEFORE ANYTHING ELSE CAN BE ADDRESSED.

IT CAN'T JUST SIT THERE, AND WE'RE FORTUNATE.

WE DON'T HAVE THE FLOODING ISSUES, BUT WHERE I USED

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TO LIVE HAD ISSUES.

AND THAT'S JUST, IT'S SO UNFAIR TO PUT THAT EXPENSE AND THAT HEARTACHE ONTO HOMEOWNERS THAT HAVE ALREADY LIVED THERE FOR YEARS AND YEARS.

SO UNLESS EVERYTHING CAN BE, THE RIGHT WORD'S NOT PROVEN, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK YOU CAN ACTUALLY PROVE ANY OF THAT, BUT REALLY ADDRESSED AND MADE PEOPLE FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH IT, MADE THE FLOODING, THE TRAFFIC ISSUES, SAFETY ON 602, WE CARE ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY.

I JUST DON'T PERSONALLY THINK IT CAN BE OKAYED.

IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE? ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU, MA'AM.

MAYOR, IF YOU COULD CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON CASE 25-260 AND STATE THE TIME.

I'M GONNA CLOSE THE HEARING AT 638 ON 25-260.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

AND NOW IF YOU COULD CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON CASE 25-258 AND STATE THE TIME.

I'M GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON 25-258 AT 639.

AND NOW IF YOU COULD TAKE BEFORE YOU FOR CONSIDERATION ITEM 7A IS THE ORDINANCE FOR VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION.

IS THERE A MOTION? I'VE GOT A DISCUSSION.

WILL YOU TAKE THAT? I'LL DO THAT.

I WILL SECOND IF YOU WANNA GO AHEAD.

YEAH, HANG ON A SECOND.

SOME THINGS I'VE SEEN HERE, AND IT'S BEEN BROUGHT UP TO PREVIOUS COUNCIL AND IT'S BEEN BROUGHT UP TO THIS COUNCIL, THAT COUNTY ROAD 602 HAS A SAFETY ISSUE.

AND MY CONCERN, BEING THE KIND OF GUY I AM, WHEN I HEAR SOMETHING'S UNSAFE, IT'S DANGEROUS, PEOPLE ARE GONNA GET HURT, I THINK THERE'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE FIXED OR CHANGED.

AND I'M CONCERNED THAT WE'VE HEARD THIS FOR A WHILE NOW, AND THE ROAD HAS NOT BEEN CHANGED OR FIXED.

SO, AND I BELIEVE THE CITIZENS WHEN THEY SAY THERE'S A DANGEROUS ISSUE, THEY LIVE THERE, THEY SEE IT.

SO MY CONCERN IS, IS THE ROAD IS STILL UNSAFE.

SECOND THING IS THE FLOODING.

THIS COUNCIL AND THIS CITY HAS HEARD ABOUT THE FLOODING, OBVIOUSLY, BEFORE WHEN THIS WAS BROUGHT TO COUNCIL AND THEY'RE HEARING IT AGAIN.

AND I SEE THE WATER IN THE VIDEO FLOODING AND THE WATER IS RUNNING, BUT IT'S PULLING UP, WHICH TELLS ME THERE'S SOMETHING UPSTREAM THAT'S DAMMING THE CREEK.

SO MY CONCERN IS THAT THIS HASN'T BEEN FIXED AND IT CONTINUES TO FLOOD.

AND I KNOW WHAT'S UPSTREAM, I KNOW THE PROPERTIES THAT HAVE FLOODED UPSTREAM ALSO, AND THAT'S BEEN A CONCERN FOR EVEN LONGER THAN THIS.

SO MAYBE THOSE ARE TWO THINGS WE NEED TO PUT ON OUR RADAR AND TAKE A LOOK AT AND MANAGE.

PUT A STORMWATER PLAN TOGETHER, AND I KNOW WE'VE GOT SOME THINGS IN THE WORK THAT WE'RE WORKING ON FOR STORMWATER MANAGEMENT.

THE NEXT THING I SEE IS THIS IS GONNA BE ZONED AS AN SF10, WHICH ACCORDING TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHICH WE'VE HAD FOR 15 YEARS NOW, AND IT'S A 20 YEAR PLAN, FITS.

IT FITS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD SECTION, IT FITS IN THE SF10, AND THERE'S NO ISSUE THERE.

IF THERE'S AN ISSUE WITH IT, THEN MAYBE WE NEED, IT'S TIME TO REVISIT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

IT FITS THE DUA, DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE, THAT'S REQUIRED IN OUR ORDINANCE TO BUILD THIS DEVELOPMENT IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, 96 HOMES, AND AN SF10, THERE'S NO ISSUE THERE.

I KNOW UP THE STREET, PINNACLE ESTATES HAS AROUND 70 HOMES, 75 HOMES, AND IT'S ZONED PD, BUT IT FITS THE SF10 STANDARD.

THE HOMES IN THERE ARE 10,000 TO 15,000 SQUARE FEET, MOST OF THEM IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT, WHICH IS VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'RE GONNA BUILD HERE.

I KNOW THERE'S AN ADDITION BEHIND IT, THAT'S AN SF7, HOMES ARE 7,000 SQUARE FOOT AND ABOVE BACK THERE, 7,000 SQUARE FOOT LOTS, NOT THE HOMES.

SF7 MEANS 7,000 SQUARE FOOT LOT, SF10 FOR 10,000 SQUARE FOOT LOT, SINGLE FAMILY, AND SO FORTH FOR THOSE THAT NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING HERE.

SO THE ONLY ISSUE THAT I CAN SEE ARE NOT CITY ORDINANCE OR CITY COMPREHENSIVE PLANNED ISSUES OR ZONING ISSUES, THE ISSUES I SEE ARE WITH FLOODING, POSSIBLE MORE FLOODING AND TRAFFIC WITH MORE TRAFFIC.

AND I'M NOT CONCERNED AS MUCH WITH THE MORE TRAFFIC AS I AM THAT THE ROAD'S ALREADY UNSAFE.

I DON'T BELIEVE THAT 96 MORE UNITS IS GONNA MAKE THE ROAD

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ANY MORE UNSAFE THAN WHAT I'M HEARING IT IS.

SO THAT'S NOT A CONCERN OF MINE EITHER.

AND I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THE FLOODING, I'M NOT AN EXPERT ON THAT, WHAT CAN BE DONE IN THE FUTURE TO ELIMINATE THAT, BUT THERE ARE MEASURES THAT CAN BE PUT IN PLACE TO MANAGE THE FLOODING.

SO AT THIS POINT, OTHER THAN PERSONAL OPINIONS, AND THAT'S WHAT I SAW BEFORE WHEN I LOOKED AT THE VIDEOS OF THE PREVIOUS MEETINGS ON THIS SAME ISSUE, EVERYTHING AS FAR AS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE ZONING, THE ORDINANCE, ALL FITS, EVERYTHING IS GOOD.

SO IT BOILS DOWN TO THE PERSONAL OPINIONS THAT CAME IN BEFORE AND WHAT MAY COME IN TODAY.

AND I TRY TO KEEP THE PERSONAL OPINIONS OUT OF MY PROFESSIONAL DECISIONS.

SO I KNOW THIS IS GONNA BE A DIFFICULT THING TO SAY, BUT AT THIS POINT, I'M GONNA HAVE TO BE CONVINCED TO VOTE NO.

AND THAT'S WHAT I HAVE RIGHT NOW.

I JUST WANNA GIVE LIKE A PERSPECTIVE BECAUSE THIS CAME UP WHEN I WAS ON P&Z.

SO I WASN'T ON CITY COUNCIL, BUT I WAS ON PLANNING AND ZONING.

AND TONY, DO YOU MIND BRINGING THE MAP UP OF THE DEVELOPMENTS NEXT DOOR? AND SO JUST TO SHOW YOU WHAT I'M WRESTLING WITH.

SO TAYLOR BRIDGE, I GUESS THE ONE TO THE SOUTH, WHICH IS ACTUALLY IN THE CITY LIMITS.

I UNDERSTAND THAT THOSE ARE ACRE PLUS LOTS, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY ZONED SF7.

AND SOMEBODY COULD COME IN THEORETICALLY AND BUY ALL THOSE LOTS AND REPLAT TO 7,000 SQUARE FOOT LOTS AND THERE'S NOT A THING THAT THE CITY COULD DO ABOUT IT.

AS LONG AS THE PLAT MET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS, THEY COULD COME IN AND PUT 7,000 SQUARE FOOT LOTS IN THERE AND THE HOMES THAT FIT THAT.

AND SO THAT'S A MORE DENSE AREA THAN WHAT THIS WOULD BE.

NOW, GRANTED, THAT'S PROBABLY NOT GONNA HAPPEN, BUT THE FACT THAT IT IS ZONED THAT WAY ALREADY, I WOULD HIGHLY RECOMMEND THAT THE INDIVIDUALS IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD PROBABLY SUBMIT A ZONING REQUEST FOR THEIR LOTS AND GET IT UP TO SFE OR SOMETHING, IF THAT'S WHAT THEY WISH TO DO.

BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S HOA RESTRICTED AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT THOSE ARE CIVIL MATTERS.

BUT FROM A CITY PERSPECTIVE, THAT'S WHAT COULD HAPPEN TO TAYLOR BRIDGE IF A BIG DEVELOPER, BIG BITCOIN PERSON COMES IN AND SPENDS A BILLION DOLLARS AND BUYS IT.

AND THAT'S WHAT THEY WANNA DO.

SO, AND THEN THAT WITH SF7, EVEN IT KIND OF MATCHES THE SURROUNDING AREAS OTHER THAN THERE'S A HANDFUL OF BIG LOTS.

AND SO BEING ON PNZ AND THEN TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW THINGS FIT IN THE AREA, AGAIN, TO AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER SCOTT, THAT'S SF10 KIND OF FITS THE AREA OF OTHER NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES.

HOWEVER, THE FLOODING IS A BIG CONCERN ON THIS.

AND I'M NOT, I KIND OF AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER SCOTT ABOUT THE TRAFFIC.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT WOULD GET ANY WORSE.

I MEAN, I LIVE IN A SUBDIVISION THAT IS 10,000 SQUARE FOOT LOTS.

IT'S 70 HOMES.

THERE'S NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE DRIVING ON MY STREETS THAT ARE TRYING TO COME OUT ON ALLSBURY.

THERE'S NOT THIS MASSIVE BUNCH OF TRAFFIC THAT IS TRYING TO COME THROUGH BECAUSE NOW, GRANTED, I LIVE IN AN OLDER NEIGHBORHOOD AND EVERYBODY STAYS HOME NOW.

SO I DON'T HAVE, WE'RE NOT A YOUNG NEIGHBORHOOD ANYMORE.

BUT AGAIN, THE TRAFFIC, I DON'T REALLY SEE IT.

BUT I THINK 602 IS AN ISSUE.

THAT IS SOMETHING THAT'S GOT TO GET PUT ON THE COUNTY'S RADAR.

I THINK THAT'S PRECINCT THREE.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.

BUT, AND IT'S HARD TO BALANCE BEING UP HERE BECAUSE AS A PROPERTY OWNER AND AS A FELLOW PROPERTY OWNER, YOU WANT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO WHATEVER YOU WANT WITH YOUR PROPERTY WITHIN REASON.

BUT THEN YOU BALANCE THAT AS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL AND A CITY OFFICIAL THAT, WELL, IT HAS TO BE REASONABLE TO THE DEVELOPMENT AND THE AREAS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO IT'S FAIRLY HARD ON THIS.

BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SOME POINTS ABOUT TAYLOR BRIDGE SPECIFICALLY BEING ZONED THE WAY IT IS, THAT THAT ACTUALLY ALLOWS FOR REALLY HIGH DENSITY RIGHT THERE.

BUT I HAVEN'T REALLY NECESSARILY MADE MY MIND UP ON THIS.

I SUPPORT THE SIZE OF THE LOTS, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE READY TO GO THROUGH WITH THE ANNEXATION YET BECAUSE OF THE OTHER ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED.

I WOULD ABSOLUTELY AGREE THAT WE, FOLLOWING THE LAST DISAPPROVAL AND THE RELEASE OF THE CCN IS WE SHOULD HAVE REVISITED OUR FUTURE LAND USE

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SO THAT THIS DIDN'T COME UP.

AND SO MY STRONG RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE, DEPENDING ON WHERE THIS GOES, THAT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT, PARTICULARLY FOR HOW WE WANT THE CERTAIN AREAS OF OUR COMMUNITY TO DEVELOP.

WE KNOW WE WANT RESIDENTIAL, BUT HOW DENSE AND THAT KIND OF THING.

SO I COMPLETELY RESPECT THAT ARGUMENT, BUT I WOULD SAY THAT THESE ARE MY NEIGHBORS ON THE EAST SIDE AND WHEN THE FLOODING HAPPENED AFTER PINNACLE ESTATE OR ONE OF THE FLOODING INCIDENTS WHERE A DEAR FRIEND OF MINE'S WHOLE BOTTOM OF HER HOUSE WAS FLOODED OUT AND HER SWIMMING POOL WAS FULL OF MUD FROM QUILL MILLER CREEK.

IT JUST REALLY HIGHLIGHTED THE FACT THAT YOU CAN MAKE EVERY EFFORT AND DO ALL THE THINGS AND IT STILL CAN SOMETIMES HAPPEN.

THE JURISDICTION OF WHERE IT MAY BE BACKED UP ON QUILL MILLER IS NOT IN OUR TERRITORY.

SO WHO DOES THAT FAULT TO? AND THERE'S SO MANY THINGS THAT I HEAR THE ARGUMENTS AND THEY'RE ALL THINGS THAT I'VE THOUGHT ABOUT TOO, BUT ULTIMATELY WE HAVE TO TAKE, WE CAN ONLY RESPOND TO WHAT IS IN OUR JURISDICTION AND HOW WE CAN MITIGATE MORE OF THAT.

AND I WOULD JUST SAY THE LESSER DENSE ON THAT SIDE OF TOWN, PARTICULARLY AGAINST THIS CREEK, KNOWN FOR FLOODING, KNOWN FOR NEEDING DREDGING.

I THINK THE LAST TIME WE TALKED ABOUT IT, I THINK DAVID, YOU DREDGED SOME OF IT OR YOU RENTED EQUIPMENT OR DID SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT TO.

I SPENT 40 GRAND TO CLEAR IT AND MY NEIGHBOR STEVE DIDN'T SAY.

WE'VE GOT NEARLY $100,000 JUST REMOVING TREES TO KEEP IT FROM POOLING.

AND IT RUNS CLEAR, THE HALF MILE THAT SEPARATES OUR PLACE.

SO I CAN'T SPEAK FOR UPSTREAM.

I JUST, I KNOW I'VE HEARD REPEATEDLY FROM THE CITIZENS AND ULTIMATELY I BELIEVE I'M SITTING HERE TO REPRESENT THE CITIZENS' VIEWS AND PERSPECTIVES.

AND WHEN I'VE HEARD THEY WANT LESS DENSITY OVER THERE, THESE ARE COMING FROM COUNTY RESIDENTS AND CITY RESIDENTS ON THAT SIDE OF TOWN THAT DON'T, THAT JUST ARE ADAMANT THEY WANT LESS DENSITY.

AND I KNOW THAT THINGS HAVE BEEN APPROVED IN THE PAST AND I HEAR THAT ARGUMENT AND I WOULD JUST SAY, WE NEED TO MAKE OUR DOCUMENTS REFLECT THE DIRECTION THAT WE DECIDE TO GO, HOWEVER THAT LOOKS.

AND I'M HAPPY TO MAKE A MOTION TO DENY THIS VOLUNTARY ANNEX.

IF WE'RE READY FOR THAT.

ANYTHING ELSE TO SAY? OKAY.

YEAH, WE'VE ALL GOT SOMETHING TO SAY.

IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UNDER NEIGHBORHOODS, WHICH IS SS 10, SS 16, SS 7, IT SAYS THAT THE CATEGORY PREDOMINANTLY RESIDENTIAL WITH TRADITIONAL DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS BUT SHOULD ALLOW FOR MIX OF DENSITIES OF LOT SIZES, WHICH THIS SS 10 BETWEEN THE ACREAGE LOTS WOULD BE MIXED.

IT WOULD FIT PERFECT.

AND I KNOW I'VE HAD TWO ACRES BEFORE WITH A HOUSE ON IT THAT FLOODED, HAD A CREEK IN THE BACK.

AND I DID THE SAME THING THIS GENTLEMAN DID.

I WENT UPSTREAM AND IT TOOK A WHILE BUT I'VE GOT EVERYTHING CLEARED OUT SO THAT THE WATER WOULD RUN AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD WOULDN'T FLOOD.

BUT IN THIS CASE, I DON'T THINK THAT'S GONNA BE POSSIBLE.

BUT I DID GO TO A MEETING AT NCTCOG ONE TIME LAST YEAR AND IT WAS OVER STORMWATER FLOODING.

AND THEY HAVE A GROUP THAT WILL ACTUALLY GO OUT AND WORK WITH MITIGATING STORMWATER FLOODING AND HELP PUT PLANS TOGETHER AND PRIMARILY TO REDUCE THE COST OF FLOOD INSURANCE, NATIONAL FLOOD INSURANCE.

SO COG, WE'RE NOT ON AN ISLAND.

THERE ARE ORGANIZATIONS THAT WILL HELP US WITH THIS.

AND I THINK COG COULD HELP US WITH THIS.

IF WE CAN GET SOMEBODY, WE KNOW SOMEBODY THAT MIGHT PUT A WORD IN FOR US.

AND SO THAT WOULD HELP WITH THE FLOODING.

I DON'T THINK IT'S GONNA COME AS A SURPRISE TO ANYBODY THAT'S BEEN FOLLOWING THIS PIECE OF LAND THROUGH THE TIME THAT I'M GONNA COME OUT IN SUPPORT OF SF10 ZONING FOR THIS PROPERTY BECAUSE I DID BEFORE WHEN IT CAME OUT OF STANFORD FARMS. THE REASON FOR CASTING AWAY THE CCN FOR THIS AREA WAS SO THAT WE WOULD NOT GET OURSELVES PINCHED INTO A TRAP WHERE WE WOULD HAVE TO ACCEPT MUCH MORE INTENSE ZONING THAN THIS BECAUSE THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPER OF STANFORD FARMS CAME TO US WITH THE INTENTION OF GETTING IT DOWN TO 5,000 SQUARE FOOT LOTS AND TELLING US WE HAD TO SERVE THEM WHETHER WE LIKE IT OR NOT BECAUSE WE HAVE THE CCN THERE.

THAT APPROACH DIDN'T WIND UP BEING FRUITFUL FOR THEM FOR GOOD REASON AND IT RESULTED IN OUR ASKING OUT OF THE CCN, WHICH WE DID DO.

BUT WE'RE HERE TONIGHT, IN MY MIND, TO ESTABLISH A ZONING CLASSIFICATION FOR THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT'S CONSISTENT

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WITH WHAT'S AROUND IT.

AND I'M GONNA REFER TO WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER SCOTT SAID OF THE FACT THAT WE HAVE PINNACLE ESTATES RIGHT DOWN THE STREET THAT, ALTHOUGH IT'S A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT ZONE, THE LOT SIZES ARE CONSISTENT WITH THAT.

PINNACLE IS A NICE DEVELOPMENT.

IT'S A CREDIT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

IT LOOKS GOOD.

THE PROPERTIES ARE MAINTAINED.

THEY ARE OF HIGH VALUE.

AND AS FAR AS THE TRAFFIC SITUATION GOES, EVERY DEVELOPMENT THAT'S HAPPENED ON 602, SINCE IT WAS ALL CATTLE FIELDS, HAS CONTRIBUTED TO THAT.

TAYLOR BRIDGE DID, TAYLOR NORTH DID, PINNACLE DID, MERIDIAN ON DOWN THE ROAD WILL.

ALL OF THESE HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO THAT.

THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY DID NOT CAUSE THAT SITUATION.

THAT SITUATION ON 602 AND THE RENFRO INTERSECTION, THE ONUS IS ON US TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT.

BUT IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ZONING CASE.

IT'S BEEN ON US FOR A LONG TIME.

IF WE CAN'T GET TXDOT TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT, WHICH WE KNOW WE'VE TRIED AND TRIED.

WE'VE WORKED EVERY ANGLE WE HAVE.

WE'VE PAID OUR OWN MONEY TO BUY THE PROPERTY CORNERS AND THINGS TO GET THIS DONE.

WE'RE WORKING HARD TO SOLVE THAT PROBLEM, BUT THAT IS NOT THIS DEVELOPER'S FAULT.

IT'S BEEN THAT WAY FOR DECADES.

DRAINAGE, SAME THING.

WE'RE TRYING TO INSTITUTE, WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT IT IN ANOTHER SEGMENT OF THIS MEETING TONIGHT, A STORMWATER FEE, WHICH WILL HOPEFULLY PUT SOME MONEY INTO THE PROCESS WHERE WE CAN ADDRESS SOME OF THESE DRAINAGE CONCERNS DOING WHAT WE NEED TO DO.

YEAH, EVERY PERSON THAT OWNS LAND DOWNSTREAM OF THIS IS GOING TO SEE MORE WATER OUT OF WHATEVER DEVELOPS ON THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY.

AND WHEN I SAY WHATEVER, I WANNA REMIND YOU ALL THAT THIS PROPERTY AS IT STANDS TODAY HAS NO ZONING ON IT.

THIS PROPERTY IS RIPE FOR DEVELOPMENT.

THE OWNERS OF THIS PROPERTY, THEY DON'T WANNA GROW COASTAL HAY AND PUT CATTLE ON IT.

THEY WANNA DO SOMETHING WITH IT.

IF THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO DO THIS WITH IT, THEY'RE GONNA DO SOMETHING ELSE WITH IT.

AND WITHOUT ANY ZONING TO PROTECT THEM, THAT SOMETHING COULD BE ANYTHING.

THAT COULD BE A SEMI-TRAILER PARKING YARD.

IT COULD BE AN AUTO SALVAGE BUSINESS.

IT CAN BE ANYTHING UNLESS IT GETS ZONED.

AND THE ONLY WAY IT'S GONNA GET ZONED IS IF IT COMES INTO THE CITY OF BURLESON.

I BELIEVE THAT OUR JOB DOWN HERE IS TO PUT ASIDE THE CONCERNS OF FLOODING AND TRAFFIC.

THOSE ARE GONNA BE ADDRESSED.

IN FACT, THIS DEVELOPER HAS TOLD US A MINUTE AGO HE'S GONNA ADDRESS ONE OF THE CRITICAL ISSUES OF TRAFFIC AS A PART OF THIS DEVELOPMENT, THAT HE'S ADDING TURN LANES ON 602.

AT THE CREST OF THIS HILL, AS SCARY AS THAT CRAZY THING IS, GOOD.

IF THAT HAPPENS, THAT AT LEAST WILL BE A SAFER LOCATION THAN WHAT IT IS TODAY IF THIS GETS DONE CORRECTLY.

SO I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THIS.

I'M, IN FACT, IN FAVOR OF IT.

I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD.

I BELIEVE TONY HAS ACKNOWLEDGED THAT THIS DOES MEET THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN REQUIREMENTS.

SEVERAL OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE ACKNOWLEDGED THAT IT DOES, AND I THINK WE ALL KNOW THAT IT DOES.

I KNOW THAT SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT SPEAK TONIGHT AND SOME OTHER PEOPLE THAT AREN'T HERE TONIGHT ARE NOT GONNA LIKE IT.

I UNDERSTAND THAT.

BUT WE HAVE TO ZONE PROPERTY CONSISTENTLY THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

WE HAVE TO HAVE MIXES OF ZONING OF ALL KINDS WITHOUT THE CITY.

AND IF YOU'RE GONNA SAY THAT THE REASON TO NOT ALLOW ZONING IS BECAUSE IT'S NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE CHARACTER AROUND IT, WELL, THE SAME THING IS TRUE ANYTIME YOU GO AND DEVELOP LAND THAT'S ADJACENT TO UNDEVELOPED LAND.

IT'S NOT GOING TO BE CONSISTENT ANYMORE BECAUSE YOU'RE DOING SOMETHING WITH IT.

AND NOW IT IS GOING TO BE DIFFERENT.

THE MAIN THING IS, DOES IT MEET OUR FUTURE LAND USE PLAN THAT COUNCILS BEFORE THIS HAVE SAT DOWN AND DECIDED NEEDS TO SAY NEIGHBORHOODS WITH THE DESCRIPTION THAT LARRY READ TO YOU A WHILE AGO? SO I'M IN SUPPORT OF THIS DEVELOPMENT, I THINK, FOR A LOT OF GOOD REASONS.

I KNOW THAT MAY NOT BE A POPULAR DECISION AMONG SOME OF THE PEOPLE HERE TONIGHT, BUT I FEEL LIKE I'M DOING MY JOB AS A COUNCIL MEMBER TO SAY THAT.

SINCE I'M NOT MAKING A MOTION YET, AS VICTORIA SAID, WE'RE HERE TO REPRESENT OUR CITIZENS.

THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE OUT THERE, THEY DON'T WANT THIS.

AND THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT HAVE MADE THEIR HOMES.

THEY'VE MADE THEIR FARMS AND RANCHES OUT THERE AS WELL.

I MEAN, GOOD JOB AT BRINGING THE VIDEO BECAUSE WE'RE SEEING HIS CATTLE OUT THERE THAT'S STANDING IN FLOODING, PULLING WATER.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S A HUGE EXPENSE AND CATTLE IS EXPENSIVE.

I'M NOT FOR ANNEXING THEM IN.

WE'VE GOT INFRASTRUCTURE THAT YOU'VE GOT TO THINK ABOUT AND THE COUNCILS PREVIOUSLY HAVE BLOCKED IT, YOU KNOW, FROM HAPPENING.

AND SO I JUST THINK WE NEED TO LISTEN TO OUR CITIZENS AND THE ONES THAT ARE OUT THERE.

BECAUSE AGAIN, WHAT VICTORIA SAID, YOU LIVE ON THAT SIDE OF TOWN BECAUSE IT IS MORE OPEN.

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YOU KNOW, I LIVE IN A VERY DENSE AREA AT THE SOUTH END OF TOWN.

AND IT'S EXPECTED THAT THOSE HOUSES ARE GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, QUARTER ACRE, HALF ACRE LOTS.

BUT WHEN YOU DRIVE DOWN 602 AND SO ON, YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE PRETTY COUNTRYSIDE.

YOU'RE LOOKING AT THOSE HOUSES THAT AREN'T SITTING ON TOP OF EACH OTHER BECAUSE WE HAVE AG GOING ON.

AND WHICH THAT IS ONE THING, YOU KNOW, I AM AN FFA MOM.

AND ONE OF THE REASONS, YOU KNOW, BURLESON'S RUNNING OUT OF SPACE FOR THESE AGRICULTURE STUDENTS.

THIS IS WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT A HUGE POPULATION, OUR POPULATION OUT THIS DIRECTION.

IT'S TO SUPPORT THAT FARM AND RANCH AREA, WHETHER THEY BE WITHIN THE CITY OF BURLESON OR THEY'RE A PART OF THE ETJ.

THEY'RE NOT WANTING IT.

AND I DON'T THINK THAT WE SHOULD APPROVE IT.

WE SHOULD LEAVE IT WHERE IT IS STILL COUNTRYSIDE.

NOW, WHETHER OR NOT WE PUT AN AG, YOU KNOW, PUT IT AS ZONED AS AG, I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S THE RIGHT MOVE EITHER, BUT I DEFINITELY DON'T THINK THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT A HIGH DENSITY AREA GOING IN THERE.

AND IF WE LOOKED AT IT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE IT IS PUT IN THERE THAT THESE HAVE TO BE AN ACRE PLUS LOTS.

I'M NOT REAL SURE, BUT THE FLOODING HAS TO BE ADDRESSED, WHICH AGAIN, WE'RE GONNA DISCUSS THAT IN A LITTLE BIT AS WELL.

THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT I CAN BE IN SUPPORT OF BECAUSE THE CITIZENS OUT THAT DIRECTION.

AND I CAN SAY, YOU KNOW, I'VE HAD FRIENDS THAT HAVE HORSES OUT THERE AND WE'VE RIDDEN ALL OVER IN THAT AREA AND WE'RE GONNA KEEP CROWDING THAT AREA.

AND WHERE ARE THOSE OPPORTUNITIES GONNA BE? I GET CONFUSED SOMETIMES WHEN WE'RE TALKING DENSITY AND HIGH DENSITY, NO DENSITY, LOW DENSITY.

WHAT IS HIGH DENSITY? WHAT IS DENSITY WHEN WE'RE DISCUSSING THAT? IT SEEMS TO BE A TERM THAT WE USE TO DEFEND SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T WANT.

WE HAVE DENSITY, I GUESS YOU WOULD CALL DENSITY, A DEFINITION WOULD BE MORE HOUSES THAN WE WANT, CLOSER TOGETHER.

IS APARTMENTS CONSIDERED DENSITY? I'M NOT SURE.

I'LL HAVE TO GET THE DEFINITION, BUT AS FAR AS LISTENING TO THE CITIZENS, I BELIEVE WE HEARD THE CITIZENS.

NOW I WASN'T ON PREVIOUS COUNCILS, I'M ON COUNCIL NOW.

AND WHEN THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT A DANGEROUS ROAD, I HEAR THEM, MY EARS PERK UP AND WE'RE GONNA GET SOMETHING DONE ABOUT THAT IF WE CAN, IF WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING, SOME KIND OF ALTERNATE TRAFFIC CONTROL, SOMETHING.

I'M NOT PROMISING ANYTHING, BUT I AM CONCERNED ABOUT IT AND WE WILL LOOK INTO IT.

AND I'M HEARING ABOUT THE FLOODING.

SO I'M LISTENING TO THE CITIZENS WHEN THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THE FLOODING.

THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT I HAVEN'T SEEN BEFORE IN THAT AREA.

NOW I'VE SEEN IT IN OTHER PLACES AROUND TOWN.

THAT'S THE REASON WE'RE DISCUSSING STORMWATER TONIGHT.

SO THERE WILL BE A PLAN PUT TOGETHER FOR STORMWATER RUNOFF EVENTUALLY.

IT'S, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON IT FOR TWO YEARS NOW.

IT SEEMS TO BE A LONG TIME, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF LEGAL STUFF AND A LOT OF OTHER STUFF TO WORK OUT BEFORE WE CAN COME UP WITH A PLAN.

SO I'M NOT SURE ABOUT WHAT THE TERM DENSITY MEANS.

I FOUND IT.

WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS AND WE ARE LISTENING TO THE CITIZENS.

I'M USING MY TECHNOLOGY SKILLS OVER HERE, WHICH ARE VERY LIMITED, BUT RESIDENTIAL DENSITY IS A MEASURE OF HOW MANY DWELLING UNITS OR PEOPLE LIVE WITHIN A GIVEN AREA OF LAND.

OKAY, THE DEFINITION.

OKAY, IS ONE ACRE HIGH DENSITY, LOW DENSITY, MEDIUM DENSITY? THAT'S GOING TO BE LOW DENSITY, BUT IT'S MEANING THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE.

WHY IS IT LOW DENSITY? BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE A HUGE POPULATION LIVING ON THERE.

SO IF YOU DID A ONE ACRE LOT WITH A ONE ACRE OR A HOUSE ON ONE ACRE, AND YOU ONLY HAVE ONE DWELLING, AND I WOULD SAY THAT MOST LIKELY, THIS IS THE REALTOR SIDE COMING OUT, THIS ONE ACRE, THEY'RE GOING TO PUT ONE HOUSE AND I'M PROBABLY GOING TO SAY IT'S GOING TO BE A 02,500 TO 300 SQUARE FOOT HOME.

SO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE, LET'S SAY THAT YOU'VE GOT A FAMILY WITH 10 KIDS IN IT.

OKAY, THAT'S ONE HOUSE.

BUT IF YOU GO AND YOU PUT MORE HOUSES, YOU'RE PUTTING FOUR HOUSES ON ONE ACRE OF LAND.

SO A QUARTER ACRE EACH, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE POPULATION THAT LIVES IN EACH OF THOSE.

SO YOU'RE CREATING MORE TRAFFIC, YOU'RE CREATING MORE WATER NEED, YOU'RE CREATING MORE OF THAT INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S NOT OUT THERE YET.

OKAY, BY DEFINITION, DENSITY IS A MEASURE OF UNITS OF HOUSES PER ACREAGE.

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CORRECT.

SO THAT MAKES SENSE.

I MEAN, THAT'S A COMMON DEFINITION, BUT I'M STILL CONFUSED ABOUT HIGH DENSITY, LOW DENSITY.

THAT'S A PERSONAL THING.

HOW WE'RE USING IT.

SO, I THINK THAT WHEN WE USE IT IN THE WAY WE'RE USING IT, WE THROW IT OUT THERE HIGH DENSITY.

IT LOOKS LIKE AN UGLY THING, WHEN IT'S REALLY NOT.

IF HIGH DENSITY IS IN YOUR MIND, SF 10, THEN IT'S NOT AN UGLY THING.

IT'S A GOOD THING.

SO IT'S DEPENDENT UPON HOW EACH INDIVIDUAL SEES IT.

BUT IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT IF YOU BUY A, HOW LARGE IS YOUR PIECE OF LAND, SIR? IF YOU HAVE A 25 ACRE PIECE OF LAND, YOU DON'T NECESSARILY WANT A HIGH DENSITY AREA RIGHT THERE BESIDE IT.

AND YOU GO OUT THERE THINKING, I'M GOING TO FARM, I'M GOING TO RANCH ON THIS, I'M GOING TO RAISE ANIMALS.

I DON'T NECESSARILY WANT MY NEIGHBORS RIGHT UP ON TOP OF ME.

WELL, THEN THE FLIP SIDE OF THAT IS, YOU CAN HAVE A 12TH OF AN ACRE LOT, YOU KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE SOMEBODY LIVING RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO YOU.

RIGHT, THAT WOULD BE MORE DENSITY, NOT LESS DENSITY.

BUT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO LOOK AT A MIX OF DENSITIES AND LOT SIZES.

SO A MIX OF DENSITIES WOULD BE MORE DENSITY OR LESS DENSITY, NOT HIGH DENSITY, WHICH IS A TERM THAT'S USED TO TURN PEOPLE AROUND.

AND THAT'S MY CONCERN.

SO I DON'T WANT TO GET AWAY FROM THE SITUATION HERE AND GET TOO FAR INTO THIS, INTO THE WEEDS.

EXCUSE ME, LARRY, I WANT TO BRING SOMETHING UP.

AND I WANT TO TALK TO THE HOMEOWNERS OUT THERE.

ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH WHAT YOU GOT RIGHT NOW IN FLOODING? BECAUSE IF WE DON'T DO THIS, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET YOUR FLOODING FIXED.

WE HAVE A CHANCE TO HAVE THE FLOODING FIXED BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THEM UNDER OUR THUMB.

SO I UNDERSTAND THIS, AND I'M TRYING TO FIND SOME COMMON GROUND.

IF YOU DON'T DO SOMETHING WITH THAT LAND, YOU STILL GOT YOUR FLOODING.

I LIVE OUT IN OAK VALLEY.

I DON'T LIKE THAT ROAD EITHER, BUT THAT NEEDS TO BE FIXED.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE TO GO WITH THIS.

JOHN, YOU MIND COMING BACK UP? I'M TRYING TO FIND SOME MIDDLE GROUND HERE.

MR. MAYOR, MR. MAYOR, I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE PERSPECTIVE, IT MIGHT BE APPROPRIATE TO CONSIDER AN EXECUTIVE SESSION AT THIS MOMENT.

YOU ALL ARE BROACHING ON ISSUES THAT HAVE SOME LEGAL IMPLICATIONS, AND I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS THOSE FOR A MOMENT BEFORE WE CONTINUE THE DISCUSSION.

MR. CHAIRMAN, WOULD YOU BE INTERESTED IN GOING TO A PARTNER? CERTAINLY, YES, SIR.

I'M JUST SUGGESTING WE MIGHT AT ONE POINT WANT TO HAVE A PRIVATE CONVERSATION.

OKAY, I GOT PERMISSION FROM DAD OVER HERE.

WOULD YOU CONSIDER GOING UP ON THE SIDES OF THE LOT? 16? THAT WOULDN'T MATTER? THAT WOULDN'T MATTER? BECAUSE I'M TRYING TO FIX YOUR PROBLEM THAT YOU'VE GOT, WHICH YOU'RE NOT TRYING TO FIX A PROBLEM, YOU'RE TRYING TO LIVE WITH IT.

AND IF THESE GUYS CAN COME IN AND SHOW US THAT THEY'VE GOT A PLAN TO FIX THE DRAINAGE AND WE DO SOMETHING WITH THE ROAD, WOULDN'T THAT BE BETTER FOR Y'ALL? I'M JUST TRYING TO FIND SOME COMMON GROUND HERE BECAUSE I'M GOOD WITH THE DEVELOPMENT, BUT MY HEART GOES OUT TO THE NEIGHBORS.

AND I WANT TO...

LET ME GET THROUGH WITH HIM, OKAY? WHAT DO YOU THINK, JOHN? HERE'S WHAT I'D SAY, MR. MAYOR.

YOU KNOW, IT IS OBVIOUSLY IN THE LANDOWNER'S BEST INTEREST TO GET AS MANY LOTS AS THEY CAN, ECONOMICALLY.

I AGREE.

BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT THE FEWER LOTS WE HAVE ON THIS PROPERTY, THE LESS IMPACT TO THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS AND TO THE INFRASTRUCTURE.

SO WHAT I WOULD...

WHAT I WOULD ASK, MR. MAYOR, IF YOU GIVE US TWO MINUTES, THREE MINUTES TO GO OUTSIDE AND CONFER WITH THE OWNERS.

LET'S...

MAYBE FIVE MINUTES? CAN I ASK FOR A MOTION TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION? OKAY.

ALAN'S GOING TO A HIGH-SPEED WOBBLE OVER HERE.

IS THERE A MOTION TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.

EXCUSE ME.

HOLD ON, HOLD ON.

WE CAN DO EXECUTIVE SESSION, BUT I NEED TO BE SPECIFIC ON WHAT EXCEPTIONS WE ARE GOING INTO.

IT'S REQUIRED BY THE LAW FOR ME

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TO MAKE THOSE EXCEPTIONS.

SO...

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SO PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 551 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, SECTION 551.071, THE COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO CONVENE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.

MAYOR, IF YOU WILL CALL FOR THE VOTE.

IS THERE A MOTION? I'VE ALREADY GOT THAT.

I'VE GOT A MOTION BY ALEXA AND A SECOND BY VICTORIA.

WE'RE GOING TO EXECUTIVE SESSION AT 7.08.

PASSES UNANIMOUS.

IS THERE A MOTION TO RECONVENE INTO REGULAR SESSION? I MAKE A MOTION TO RECONVENE.

SECOND.

I HAVE A MOTION BY VICTORIA AND A SECOND BY ALEXA.

WE'RE BACK IN REGULAR SECTION AT 7.31.

PASSES UNANIMOUS.

IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS? SO I'M GOING TO OPEN IT UP FOR A MOTION.

I MAKE A MOTION TO DENY CASE 25-60 THE VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION.

I HAVE A MOTION BY ALEXA AND A SECOND BY VICTORIA.

I HAVE A MOTION, FIVE YES AND TWO NO.

MOTION PASSES.

MAYOR AND COUNCIL, SINCE ITEM 7A WAS A VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION AND THAT MOTION FAILED, THERE IS NO WAY THAT THE COUNCIL HAS AUTHORITY TO VOTE ON ITEM 7B FOR THE ZONING.

[8.A. Hold the second public hearing and consider and take possible action on a proposed strategic partnership agreement (SPA) with the North Johnson County Municipal Management District No. 1. (Staff Contact: Tony D. McIlwain, Development Services Director)]

THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM EIGHT, SECTION EIGHT, GENERAL.

8A IS TO HOLD THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER AND TAKE POSSIBLE ACTION ON A PROPOSED STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENT, SPA, WITH THE NORTH JOHNSON COUNTY MUNICIPAL MANAGEMENT DISTRICT NUMBER ONE.

THE STAFF PRESENTER THIS EVENING IS TONY MCELWAIN, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DIRECTOR.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR.

GLAD TO SEE YOU AGAIN.

THANK YOU, AMANDA.

MAYOR AND COUNCIL, THIS IS THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING THE STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENT FOR THE NORTH JOHNSON COUNTY MUNICIPAL MANAGEMENT DISTRICT NUMBER ONE, ALSO KNOWN AS TALLGRASS.

AS YOU ARE AWARE, THIS PROJECT IS BEING PROPOSED AT THE INTERSECTION OF CHISHOLM TRAIL PARKWAY AND FM 1902.

THE DISTRICT IS BRINGING FORWARD THIS SPA TO PROVIDE, AMONG OTHER THINGS, CONDITIONS FOR ANNEXATION OF THE MMD AND LIMITED PURPOSE ANNEXATION OF THE LAND.

PER THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE, THE CITY IS REQUIRED TO CONDUCT TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS ON THIS MATTER WHERE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC MAY SPEAK AND PRESENT TESTIMONY REGARDING THE SPA.

WE HAVE NOTIFIED IN THE FORT WORTH STAR-TELEGRAM THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING DATE AS WELL AS THE PUBLIC HEARING DATE OF THIS EVENING.

PRIOR TO ANNEXATION, TALLGRASS IS AUTHORIZED TO EXERCISE ALL POWERS AND FUNCTIONS AS PROVIDED BY LAW AND THE SPA ALLOWS THE CITY TO ANNEX THE LAND WITHIN THE DISTRICT FOR THE LIMITED PURPOSE OF IMPOSING AND COLLECTING THE CITY'S SALES AND USE TAX AT ANY TIME AT THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THE AGREEMENT.

THE CITY WILL NOT FULLY ANNEX THE DISTRICT UNTIL CONDITIONS HAVE BEEN MET.

WE HAVE THOSE ON THE SCREEN.

AND FOLLOWING ANNEXATION, THE MMD WILL CONTINUE TO EXIST AS A LIMITED PURPOSE DISTRICT.

THIS IS FOR AN INITIAL 10-YEAR PERIOD TO ALLOW FOR CONTINUED MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION OF THE DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS, PARK, TRAILS, AND OPEN SPACE IMPROVEMENTS.

AS I MENTIONED IN THE PREVIOUS PUBLIC HEARING, UPON FULL PURPOSE ANNEXATION, THE CITY AGREES TO REMOVE THE PROPERTY FROM JOHNSON COUNTY ESD NO LATER THAN 180 DAYS FOLLOWING THE FULL PURPOSE ANNEXATION OF THE PROPERTY TO THE CITY'S CORPORATE LIMITS.

THE CITY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE COST WITH THE REMOVAL OF THE PROPERTY FROM THE ESD.

THE INITIAL TERM OF THE SPA IS 45 YEARS.

WE DON'T ANTICIPATE THE SPA RUNNING ITS DURATION.

WE THINK THAT THE DEVELOPER IN THE CITY WILL BE IN A MORE AGGRESSIVE TIMELINE FOR ANNEXATION.

HOWEVER, UPON THE EXPIRATION OF THE INITIAL TERM, THE SPA WILL AUTOMATICALLY STAND FOR A SUCCESS OF ONE-YEAR PERIODS TO EITHER THE DISTRICT OR THE CITY GIVE NOTICE.

STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THIS DOCUMENT FOLLOWING THIS SECOND PUBLIC HEARING ON THE MATTER.

ANYBODY ELSE, ANYBODY WANT

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TO SAY ANYTHING? I WANT TO OPEN THIS PUBLIC HEARING UP AT 7.35.

IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS? THEN I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 7.36.

IS THERE A MOTION? MOVE TO APPROVE.

AND SECOND.

I GOT A MOTION BY ADAM, A SECOND BY DAN.

MADAM SECRETARY, CAN WE REVOTE THE MAYOR'S MACHINE? DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO VOTE.

I'M LOCKED IN.

I'LL HAVE TO RESET EVERYBODY'S VOTE.

SO YOU'LL HAVE TO MAKE THE MOTION AGAIN IN A SECOND.

DOES EVERYBODY GOT A PROBLEM? I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE.

SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR HAND.

ARE WE OKAY? YES, SIR.

IF YOU'LL JUST ANNOUNCE THAT IT DID PASS.

PASSED UNANIMOUS.

[8.B. Consider and take possible action on a facility use agreement with Burleson Farmer’s Market for the use of the Mayor Vera Calvin Plaza in Old Town for the 2026-2027 market season.(Staff Contact: Alex Philips, Economic Development Director)]

THAT BRINGS US TO 8B, CONSIDER AND TAKE POSSIBLE ACTION ON A FACILITIES USE AGREEMENT WITH BURLESON FARMER'S MARKET FOR THE USE OF THE MAYOR VERA CALVIN PLAZA IN OLD TOWN FOR 2026-2027 MARKET SEASON.

THE STAFF PRESENTER IS ALEX PHILLIPS, DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

MR. PHILLIPS, GOOD TO SEE YOU.

I'VE TURNED ON THE MICROPHONE.

IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE I'VE BEEN UP HERE.

SO GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

ALEX PHILLIPS, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR HERE WITH THE ANNUAL FACILITY USE AGREEMENT FOR THE BURLESON FARMER'S MARKET FOR 2026 AND 2027.

SO JUST SOME GENERAL INFO.

IT OPERATES WEEKLY, MARCH THROUGH OCTOBER, AND THEN MONTHLY ON ONE MARKET A MONTH FROM NOVEMBER THROUGH FEBRUARY.

SO THEY HAVE THEIR VALENTINE'S MARKET COMING UP IN FEBRUARY.

MAY OPERATE UP TO FOUR SPECIAL EDITION LIKE DATE NIGHT MARKETS ON A FRIDAY OR SATURDAY NIGHT RATHER THAN IN THE MORNINGS.

THEY MAY OPERATE A SUNDAY MARKET IN PLACE OF SATURDAY WITH THE APPROVAL AND THE EVENT SCHEDULING CONFLICT LIKE A SPECIAL EVENT, THE BE HEALTHY RUN, OR WHEN WE HAD ELECTIONS HERE, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

WE CAN MOVE IT.

CURRENTLY UTILIZES THE PLAZA PROMENADE PORTION OF THE LAWN AND PARKING STALLS ON SOUTH WARREN STREET.

THE FEE IS $500 PER MARKET PAID DIRECTLY TO THE CITY BY THE OPERATOR.

VENDORS PAY THE OPERATOR DIRECTLY.

ALL VENDOR ARRANGEMENTS ARE MADE BY THE MARKET OPERATOR.

FEE HISTORY, THE PRICING BREAKDOWN WHEN WE CREATED THE PLAZA AND THE PLAZA POLICY IT'S NOT IN THE PLAZA POLICY, BUT THE COUNCIL AT THE TIME WANTED TO BREAK IT DOWN PER SQUARE FOOT FROM THE $5,000 FOR THE FULL ENTIRETY OF THE PLAZA FOR PRIVATE EVENTS PER DAY.

TOTAL PLAZA AREA IS 47,500 SQUARE FEET.

THAT'D BE 11 CENTS PER SQUARE FOOT BASED ON A FULL DAY RESERVATION.

THE FARMER'S MARKET WAS CHARGED 5 CENTS A SQUARE FOOT BASED ON HALF DAY USAGE.

THE RECENT FEE HISTORY BACK IN 21, IT WAS THE PROMENADE AND ON-STREET STALLS WHEN WE OPENED THE MARKET IT WAS $287.50.

BACK IN 22, COUNCIL APPROVED THE PROMENADE ON-STREET STALLS IN A PORTION OF THE LAWN, INCREASED THE FEE TO $454.50 PER MARKET.

AND THEN IN 25, WE WENT UP ON THE RATE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF THE LAWN SPACE.

IN FEBRUARY OF 25, THE PROMENADE ON-STREET STALLS IN A BIGGER PORTION OF THE LAWN TO BE $500 PER MARKET.

HERE'S THE CURRENT EVENT FOOTPRINT.

AND IT MOVES AROUND DEPENDING ON WHAT WE HAVE IN THE PLAZA.

IF WE HAVE THE CHRISTMAS TREE IN THE PLAZA, THE LAYOUT CHANGES A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE OF THE SPACING.

WE TOOK THIS TO THE COMMUNITY SERVICES COMMITTEE ON NOVEMBER 5TH.

THE COMMITTEE PROVIDED THE FOLLOWING RECOMMENDATIONS.

ALLOW THE FARMER'S MARKET TO UTILIZE THE FULL LAWN SPACE, INCLUDE STREET CLOSURE OF PORTION OF SOUTH WARREN STREET FOR PEDESTRIAN SAFETY.

AGREEMENT WILL DEEM THE ORGANIZER BE RESPONSIBLE PARTY FOR WEEKLY SETUP AND REMOVAL OF THOSE BARRICADES AND ALLOW THE FARMER'S MARKET TO UTILIZE THE PORTION OF SOUTH WARREN STREET FOR VENDORS IF DESIRED.

NOTE THE STAFF PRESENTED AN OPTION OF UTILIZING THE WEST CITY HALL PARKING LOT FOR VENDORS, BUT THE COMMITTEE DID NOT WANT THAT INCLUDED AS PART OF THE RECOMMENDATION.

SO THIS IS THE PROPOSED FOOTPRINT.

IT INCLUDES THAT CLOSURE OF SOUTH WARREN STREET PLUS THE FULL LAWN.

THE SOUTH WARREN STREET WOULD BE CLOSED JUST NORTH OF THE PEDESTRIAN CROSSING ON WARREN STREET, BUT IT WOULD LEAVE WEST CITY HALL LOT OPEN.

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AND THEN IT WOULD BE CLOSED JUST NORTH OF THE ELLISON STREET, WARREN STREET INTERSECTION.

SO IT WOULD LEAVE THAT INTERSECTION OPEN FOR PEOPLE TO USE ELLISON AS WELL.

MARKET STATS USING OUR NEW PLACER DATA TOOLS THAT WERE APPROVED IN THE LAST YEAR'S BUDGET.

THE AVERAGE, WE HAVE 100 TO 120 VENDORS PER MARKET.

THE AVERAGE MARKET BRINGS 800 TO 1,000 VISITORS TO THE PLAZA VERSUS A NO MARKET DAY WITH THE PLAZA AVERAGING 100 TO 300 VISITORS.

THE OCTOBER DATE NIGHT MARKET THAT WAS HELD ON OCTOBER 3RD BROUGHT IN 2,400 VISITORS TO THE PLAZA.

THE DECEMBER HOLIDAY MARKET BROUGHT IN 2,700 VISITORS.

AND FOR COMPARISON REFERENCE, THE BTXMAS PARADE BROUGHT IN 02,800 VISITORS TO THE PLAZA.

SO THE FARMER'S MARKET IS PROVIDING MORE ECONOMIC VITALITY TO OLD TOWN, TO OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES AND OUR LOCAL RESTAURANTS AND THE SMALL BUSINESSES THAT ARE A PART OF THE MARKET AS WELL.

SO THE PROPOSED CHANGES, OPTION ONE, THIS IS COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATION TO UTILIZE THE FULL LAWN SPACE, INCLUDE THE STREET CLOSURE PORTION OF WARREN STREET FOR PEDESTRIAN SAFETY, ALLOW BURLESON FARMER'S MARKET TO UTILIZE PORTION OF SOUTH WARREN STREET FOR VENDORS IF DESIRED, INCREASE THE NUMBER OF DATE NIGHTS FROM FOUR TO SIX IN THE CURRENT AGREEMENT AND MAINTAIN THE CURRENT RENTAL RATE OF $500 PER DAY DOING A FLAT RATE FEE FOR THE FARMER'S MARKET.

AND AS OF PROPOSED CHANGES, OPTION TWO, FARMER'S MARKETS OPERATE THE SAME AS PRESENT DAY AGREEMENT WITH NO CHANGES.

JUST OF NOTE, CITY OF CROWLEY, THE FARMER'S MARKET IN CROWLEY, THE SAME ORGANIZERS, CITY OF CROWLEY CHARGES 125 A WEEK OR 500 FOR THE MONTH FOR THE MARKET TO OPERATIONS UTILIZING A LARGER FOOTPRINT THAN OUR PLAZA.

AND THEY ALSO OPERATE A MARKET IN THE CITY OF GRANBURY AND CITY OF GRANBURY CHARGES THEM 87.50 A WEEK OR 350 FOR THE MONTH FOR THE MARKET OPERATIONS WITHIN THE ENTIRETY OF HEWLETT PARK, WHICH IS A LARGER FOOTPRINT THAN WHAT IS AVAILABLE WITHIN OUR OWN PLAZA AS WELL.

SO THAT'S WHY STAFF WANTED TO RECOMMEND THE $500 JUST FLAT RATE FOR THE FARMER'S MARKET EACH TIME.

IT'S NOT ABOUT THE CITY MAKING MONEY ON CHARGING THE ORGANIZER FOR THE FARMER'S MARKET.

WE WANT THEM TO BRING MORE PEOPLE TO OLD TOWN FOR OUR BUSINESSES AND RESTAURANTS TO SPEND MORE MONEY DOWN HERE.

REASONS FOR THE PROPOSED CHANGE, INCREASED INTEREST FROM LOCAL VENDORS, BUT LIMITED SPACE.

THE NEW LAYOUT WILL PROVIDE ADDITIONAL SPACE FOR VENDORS.

ABOUT THERE IS 80% OF THE VENDORS ARE LOCAL BUSINESSES TO BURLESON.

PEDESTRIAN SAFETY ON WARREN STREET.

THAT HAS BEEN A TOPIC OF CONVERSATION AS THE MARKET HAS GOTTEN BUSIER OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS.

THE FLAT FEE FOR THE FARMER'S MARKET WILL ALLOW THE MARKET TO GROW AND PROVIDE A BIGGER ECONOMIC IMPACT FOR LOCAL BUSINESSES IN OLD TOWN, LIKE I SAID.

AND THIS CURRENT AGREEMENT EXPIRES FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR.

STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF OPTION ONE.

HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSIONS OR OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS.

I DON'T KNOW.

ALEX, I LOVE THE CLOSURE OF THAT STREET.

THAT PORTION OF IT, YES.

AND USE THAT ONE PARKING LOT.

I'VE HAD A LOT OF VENDORS SAY THEY WOULD LOVE FOR THAT AREA THAT'S GOING TO BE PAVED, THEY WOULD LOVE TO MOVE OVER THAT AREA BECAUSE IT WAS THERE AT ONE TIME, IT WAS A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, EVEN THOUGH IT WAS GRASS, IF YOU REMEMBER.

AND THEY LOVED IT BECAUSE THERE WAS A LOT OF PEDESTRIANS RIGHT THERE.

THERE'S A LOT OF CARS PARKED RIGHT THERE.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, AND I DON'T KNOW, BECAUSE I DID TALK TO THE GUY THAT RUNS IT.

IF WE GOT THAT MANY VISITORS, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THEY SEE THE BUSINESSES BEHIND THEM, THE RESTAURANTS, THE BOUTIQUE.

I SAID, CAN WE JUST DO AWAY WITH THE PEOPLE, PEOPLE WALKING DOWN THE MIDDLE OF THAT THING CANNOT SEE THOSE BUSINESSES.

IT'S JUST BLOCKED BECAUSE OF THE TENTS.

WE'VE WORKED WITH THE LOCAL BUSINESSES ON THE PROMENADE AND WITH CHAZ, WITH BURLESON FARMER'S MARKET, AND WE'VE MADE CHANGES TO THE VISIBILITY FOR THOSE BUSINESSES AS WELL.

I KNOW IT'S JUST ONE TIME, A WEEK.

BUT WHEN TALKING TO ALL THE BUSINESSES, THEY WANT THE VENDORS BESIDE THEM, IN FRONT OF THEM, THAT WAY IT'S CAUSING MORE TRAFFIC FOR THEIR FRONT.

SO WE JUST, THERE'LL BE SPACES ON THAT SIDE THAT DON'T HAVE VENDORS RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE BUSINESS.

IT'S A GREAT THING.

YOU DO A GREAT JOB WITH IT.

SO JUST THANKS, I APPRECIATE IT.

WE'RE JUST THE FACILITATOR.

CHAZ AND BURLESON FARMER'S MARKET'S GROWN THIS QUITE A BIT, AND IT'S BEEN A FANTASTIC ADDITION.

WE'VE BEEN SHOPPING IT SINCE MARY LYNN SOLD JUICE WHEN IT WAS THE PARKING LOT ACROSS THE STREET AND THERE WERE, WHAT, 10 VENDORS SHOPPING, CHAZ? 10, 12 VENDORS.

I MEAN, SEVERAL OF US HAVE BEEN LONGTIME SUPPORTERS AND BEYOND PROUD OF HOW MUCH IT HAS GROWN.

AND I'M GRATEFUL THAT WE ARE BEING RESPONSIVE, ONE, TO THE BUSINESSES THAT WE'RE FORTUNATE TO HAVE IN OLD TOWN, AND TO THE

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FOOT TRAFFIC.

I THINK IT'S ALL A PARTNERSHIP AND WE ALL HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER.

AND SO I THINK BEING RECEPTIVE TO THE FEEDBACK THAT WE RECEIVE.

I HAVE ONE REQUEST AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS ON THE CITY SIDE OR ON CHAZ'S SIDE, BUT THE VENDORS HAVE SAMPLES AND THINGS AND THEN PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR TRASH CANS AND WE ONLY HAVE TRASH CANS AT THE END.

AND ONE OF THEM, THE ONE CLOSEST TO CITY HALL, KIND OF BLENDS, I THINK, BECAUSE IT'S THE MASONRY AROUND IT.

SO IF WE COULD HAVE TRASH CANS ALONG, BECAUSE YOU'RE GETTING, I HEAR IT EVERY TIME I'M OUT HERE, THEY'RE LIKE, OH, THEY JUST HAD A SAMPLE OF SOMETHING OR THEY JUST FINISHED A BEVERAGE OR FOOD ITEM THAT THEY PURCHASED AND THEN THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH IT.

AND UNFORTUNATELY I DON'T SEE A LOT OF LITTER ON THE GROUND, BUT THEY WANNA KNOW, LIKE, WHERE DOES THIS GO? BUT CHAZ'S TEAM IS REALLY GOOD ABOUT PULLING THE TRASH CANS REGULARLY, NOTHING OVERFLOWS, SO I APPRECIATE THAT.

I'M SO GRATEFUL THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING THIS PARTIAL CLOSURE BECAUSE WHEN YOU'RE SHOPPING, YOU'RE NOT NECESSARILY WATCHING AND THEN THE PEOPLE THAT ARE DRIVING THROUGH, THEY'RE JUST LOOKING FOR A SPOT TO PARK, SO THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY WATCHING.

SO IT'S COMING FROM BOTH ANGLES, BUT I THINK IT WILL GO MUCH SMOOTHER KNOWING THAT YOU'RE NOT POTENTIALLY GOING TO GET HIT BY A CAR AND FOR THE FUTURE GROWTH OF THE FARMER'S MARKET WHEN THAT LAW IS PAVED AND WE CAN GROW INTO THAT SPACE, HOPEFULLY, AS WE GROW OUR VENDOR POOL.

BUT KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK.

I'M VERY PLEASED WITH THAT AND I ABSOLUTELY THINK WE SHOULD STAY COMPETITIVE.

$500 SEEMS REASONABLE TO ME.

IT'S ABOUT, IT'S BEEN A LONGTIME COMMUNITY REQUEST.

THE COMMUNITY, THEY LOVE COMING OUT FOR THIS EVENT.

THE NUMBERS SAY IT AND SHOW IT AND IT IS SUCH A, IT'S JUST FUN TO COME OUT EVERY SATURDAY AND THEN ON THE SPECIAL EVENTS, THE CHRISTMAS MARKET WAS BOOMING AND THEN WE COULDN'T GET INTO A COUPLE OF THE RESTAURANTS BECAUSE THEY WERE SO FULL AND WE WERE TOLD, LIKE, AN HOUR PLUS WAIT AT TWO OF THEM AND WE FINALLY GOT TO FEED THE YOUNG PEOPLE THAT WERE WITH US, BUT IT WAS AWESOME.

YOU GUYS ARE DOING A GREAT JOB.

WE'RE SO PROUD OF IT, BUT AGAIN, IT'S TEAMWORK AND EVERYBODY WORKING TOGETHER AND CONTINUALLY TAKING FEEDBACK AND SEEING HOW WE CAN IMPROVE.

AND WE'LL WORK WITH CHAZ AND THE TEAM ON THE TRASH ISSUE.

MORE PEOPLE, MORE TRASH.

AND SO WE JUST GOTTA CHANGE AND ADAPT WITH IT.

BUT THE NICE THING IS, LIKE I SAID, IT'S NOT ON THE GROUND.

PEOPLE ARE HOLDING ONTO IT, BUT I JUST KNOW THAT I HEAR THAT EVERY SINGLE TIME I'M OUT THERE.

IT'S LIKE, WHAT DO YOU, YOU FINISH SOMETHING AWESOME AND THEN YOU'RE LIKE, NOW WHAT DO I DO WITH THIS THING? AND YOU WANT MORE, YOU WANT YOUR HANDS FREE SO YOU CAN BUY STUFF.

CARRYING TRASH IS NOT THAT FUN, BUT THANKS, REALLY APPRECIATE THESE RECOMMENDATIONS, ALEX.

YES, MA'AM.

ANYONE ELSE? IS THERE A MOTION? WE GOTTA HAVE A MOTION BY VICTORIA, A SECOND BY ALEXA AND WE HAVE NO SCREEN.

MOTION WAS FOR OPTION ONE.

YOU GOOD? YES, SIR.

MOTION TO APPROVE OPTION ONE AS PRESENTED BY STAFF.

PLEASE, THERE YOU GO.

PLAYING WITH MY MIND,

[8.C. Consider and take possible action on a professional services agreement with Kimley-Horn for the design of the Chisholm West Lift Station in the amount not to exceed $805,680.00 (Project WW2603). (Staff Contact: Randy Morrison, PE, Director of Capital Engineering)]

THE WAY.

CONSIDER AND TAKE POSSIBLE ACTION ON A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH KIMLEY HORN FOR THE DESIGN OF CHISHOLM WEST LIFT STATION IN THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $805,680.

THAT BRINGS US TO 8C.

THIS IS PROJECT WW2603.

THE STAFF PRESENTER THIS EVENING IS RANDY MORRISON, DIRECTOR OF CAPITAL ENGINEERING, MR. MORRISON.

THANK YOU AND GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL.

AS YOU KNOW, MY NAME IS RANDY MORRISON, DIRECTOR OF CAPITAL ENGINEERING.

THIS ITEM IS FOR COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION OF A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT FOR OUR CHISHOLM WEST LIFT STATION PROJECT.

THE PROJECT IS A NEW PROJECT FOR FY 26.

IT'S BEEN IDENTIFIED IN THE CITY'S WATER AND WASTEWATER MASTER PLANS TO SUPPORT FUTURE DEVELOPMENT ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE CITY.

SPECIFICALLY, THIS LIFT STATION WILL PROVIDE SEWER SERVICE FOR THE CHISHOLM SUMMIT AND TALL GRASS AND OTHER DEVELOPMENTS ON THE WEST SIDE.

THE PROJECT WILL BE DESIGNED WITH AN ULTIMATE CAPACITY OF 6 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY.

IT WAS ORIGINALLY ENVISIONED AS 2.5 MGD, BUT WITH COORDINATION OF THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S COMING IN, WE'VE UPSIZED THAT ULTIMATE CAPACITY.

THE PROJECT ALSO INCLUDES THE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION OF A 12 INCH FORCE MAIN, AS WELL AS MULTIPLE SEWER STUB OUTS FOR THE FUTURE GRAVITY IMPROVEMENTS OR GRAVITY SEWER MAINS THAT WILL BE BUILT BY THE DEVELOPMENT IN THE AREA.

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AS I MENTIONED, THE CHISHOLM SUMMIT DEVELOPMENT AS WELL AS THE TALL GRASS DEVELOPMENT WILL BE SERVED BY THIS LIFT STATION.

IT'LL PROVIDE SEWER SERVICE TO THE AREA.

AND BOTH OF THESE DEVELOPMENTS HAVE AGREEMENTS WITH THE CITY THAT ARE IN PLACE THAT NECESSITATE THE DELIVERY OF THIS PROJECT AND THIS LIFT STATION IN ORDER TO PROVIDE THEM SEWER SERVICE.

WITHIN THOSE AGREEMENTS, THERE ARE PRETTY TIGHT TIMELINES THAT ARE IDENTIFIED THAT REQUIRE US TO HAVE DESIGN COMPLETION BY THE END OF THIS YEAR.

SO BY DECEMBER 31ST OF 2026, AND THEN AS WELL AS CONSTRUCTION COMPLETION BY THE END OF 2028.

SO WE ARE TRYING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT QUICKLY AND MEET THOSE TIMELINES TO SUPPORT THE DEVELOPMENT IN THE AREA.

SO THIS EXHIBIT YOU SEE ON THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE APPROXIMATE LOCATION OF THE LIFT STATION.

IT IS RIGHT IN BETWEEN THE TWO DEVELOPMENTS THAT I MENTIONED.

THIS EXHIBIT ALSO SHOWS THE PROPOSED FORCE MAIN, WHICH IS THE RED LINE THAT WOULD TIE IN TO THE EXISTING GRAVITY SEWER MAIN THAT'S IN COUNTY ROAD 914.

ALSO SHOWN ON THIS EXHIBIT IS THE POTENTIAL FUTURE GRAVITY MAINS THAT WOULD FEED FROM THE DEVELOPMENTS TO THIS LIFT STATION, AND THOSE WILL BE BUILT BY THE DEVELOPMENTS.

SO CITY STAFF WENT THROUGH A QUALIFICATION-BASED SELECTION PROCESS.

WE PROVIDED, IN OCTOBER, WE PROVIDED A SCOPE STATEMENT TO A SHORT LIST OF CONSULTANTS THAT WERE SELECTED THROUGH A REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS PROCESS.

UPON THAT PROCESS, WE IDENTIFIED THAT KIMLEY-HORNE WAS THE MOST QUALIFIED FIRM FOR THIS PROJECT.

THEY HAVE EXTENSIVE KNOWLEDGE ON LIFT STATION-TYPE PROJECTS, AS WELL AS EXTENSIVE KNOWLEDGE WITH OTHER PROJECTS IN THIS SPECIFIC AREA AND WITH THESE DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE IN THE WORKS.

SO WITH THAT, WE SELECTED THEM AS THE MOST QUALIFIED FIRM FOR THIS PROJECT.

THIS SLIDE SHOWS JUST A ROUGH BREAKDOWN OF THE SCOPE OF SERVICES THAT THEY'RE PROVIDING UNDER THIS CONTRACT, BUT IN SUMMARY, IT'S FULL DESIGN-SCOPE SERVICES, AS WELL AS BIDDING AND CONSTRUCTION SUPPORT SERVICES TO SUPPORT US THROUGH THE LIFE OF THE PROJECT.

IF COUNCIL APPROVES THE CONTRACT THIS EVENING, WE'LL GET STARTED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE WITH THE DESIGN SO THAT WE CAN MEET THE TIGHT TIMELINE.

OVER THIS NEXT YEAR, WE'LL GO THROUGH THE PROGRESSION OF THE DESIGN, AND WE ANTICIPATE HAVING COMPLETION BY THE END OF THE YEAR, AND THAT WOULD LEAD TO A POTENTIAL SPRING 2027 CONSTRUCTION START.

SO WITH THAT, STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT COUNCIL CONSIDER AND TAKE POSSIBLE ACTION ON A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH KIMLEY-HORNE FOR THE DESIGN OF THE CHISHOLM WEST LIFT STATION IN THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $805,680.

I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

I KNOW I SPOKE WITH STAFF BEFORE THE MEETING ABOUT THIS PROJECT BECAUSE IT'S A LITTLE LESS INVOLVED THAN THE INDUSTRIAL PUMP STATION, AND SO THIS IS A LITTLE MORE RUN-OF-THE-MILL GIVEN THAT IT'S JUST A LIFT STATION, AND SO HOPEFULLY WHEN IT COMES TIME TO GET BIDS, WE WILL BE A LOT CLOSER TO WHAT THIS SAYS.

ANYBODY ELSE? IS THERE A MOTION ON THIS? I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE THE SECOND VERSION.

I GOT A MOTION BY DAN, A SECOND BY VICTORIA.

[Items 8.D & 8.E]

THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM 8D AND E, WHICH WILL BE PRESENTED WITH ONE PRESENTATION.

HOWEVER, IT WILL BE TWO MOTIONS AT THE END.

SO 8D IS CONSIDER AND TAKE POSSIBLE ACTION ON A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH KEMP GOLF COURSE DESIGN IN THE AMOUNT OF $103,000 FOR A MASTER PLAN OF HIDDEN CREEK GOLF COURSE, AND 8E IS TO CONSIDER AND TAKE POSSIBLE ACTION ON A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE REJECTION OF BIDS FOR ITB 2026-004 FOR THE REPLACEMENT OF A FENCE AT HIDDEN CREEK GOLF COURSE.

THE PRESENTER THIS EVENING IS JEN BASHAM, DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION.

MS. BASHAM.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

AS AMANDA STATED, WE WILL BE PRESENTING BOTH OF THESE ITEMS TOGETHER THIS EVENING BECAUSE WE FELT LIKE ONE IMPACTS THE OTHER.

SO WE WILL START WITH THE MASTER PLAN, BUT KEEPING IN MIND THAT THE FENCE IS A COMPONENT OF THAT DECISION.

ALL RIGHT.

SO FOR THIS EVENING, WHAT WE ARE LOOKING TO REQUEST APPROVAL OF IS A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH KEMP GOLF.

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THEY HAVE ESTABLISHED A CLEAR PHASE STRATEGY FOR THE REINVESTMENT OF THE LONG-TERM.

SUSTAINABILITY OF THE COURSE, AS WELL AS SOME DIRECTION FROM THE OPERATIONAL SIDE, LOOKING AT THE FINANCES, THE STAFFING MODEL, AS WELL AS HOW WE MANAGE FOOD AND BEVERAGE AND THE LAYOUT OF THE CLUBHOUSE AND CART BARN AND MAINTENANCE AREA.

THE FUNDING FOR THIS PROJECT IS BEING LOOKED AT FROM A REALLOCATION OF THE PROJECT THAT IS AUTHORIZED IN THE CIP FOR THE REPLACEMENT OF THE GOLF COURSE FENCE IN THE AMOUNT OF $262,500.

SO LIKE I SAID, AS A HISTORY FOR THIS PROJECT, WE DO HAVE THAT $262,000 SET ASIDE FOR ABOUT A MILE OF FENCE LINE ALONG I-35.

DURING THE DISCUSSION THIS FALL, IT WAS REQUESTED THAT WE ALSO PURSUE A MASTER PLAN EFFORT AT THE SAME TIME.

SO WHEN WE BID THIS PROJECT FOR THE FENCE LINE, WE REALIZED THAT BEFORE WE MOVED FORWARD WITH ONE OR THE OTHER, WE WANTED TO PRESENT BOTH ITEMS. SO THE BID ENVIRONMENT DID CHANGE, AND WE ALSO LOOKED AT A STRATEGIC OPPORTUNITY TO REEVALUATE WHAT WE WANTED TO DO WITH THAT FENCE PROJECT BEFORE WE PURSUED THE MASTER PLAN.

SO A SPECIFIC SCOPE FOR THIS PROJECT WOULD BE THE DOCUMENT, THE MASTER PLAN DOCUMENT ITSELF.

IT WILL INCLUDE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, COURSE IMPROVEMENT RECOMMENDATIONS, BOTH FROM A PLAYABILITY AND PACE PERSPECTIVE, AS WELL AS DRAINAGE, WHICH WE ALL KNOW IS A LARGE COMPONENT OF HOW THE GOLF COURSE FUNCTIONS.

OPERATIONAL AND FINANCIAL PERFORMANCE, THE CLUBHOUSE, DRAINAGE THROUGH A THIRD PARTY THROUGH FREESON NICHOLS, IRRIGATION AUDIT, AND PRIORITIZED RECOMMENDATIONS, AND THEN A PHASING STRATEGY WITH OPCCS FOR ALL OF THOSE ITEMS. THEN OF COURSE AT THE END, WE WOULD PRESENT THAT TO CITY LEADERSHIP FOR ADOPTION.

THE CONSULTING TEAM FOR THIS PROJECT, KEMP GOLF COURSE DESIGN, WOULD BE THE MAIN PRIMARY CONSULTANT AND THEY HAVE ENLISTED SOME HELP FROM JJ KEEGAN, CDA DESIGN, LARRY ROGERS, AND FREESON NICHOLS FOR THE DIFFERENT COMPONENTS THAT YOU SEE LISTED THERE.

AND WE DID WANT TO PROVIDE SOME EXAMPLE PROJECTS JUST SO THAT YOU ARE COMFORTABLE WITH KEMP GOLF COURSE DESIGN.

THESE ARE SOME LOCAL AND STATE PROJECTS THAT THEY HAVE RECENTLY COMPLETED OR ARE IN THE PROCESS OF COMPLETING CURRENTLY.

AND THEN THIS IS A BREAKDOWN BY TASK OF THE CONTRACT.

AND BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT, TO THE FENCE REPLACEMENT, WE WILL DISCUSS THE MASTER PLAN.

IS THE PURPOSE OF THIS TO INCREASE GREEN FEES OR JUST NEED AN UPGRADE OR WHAT'S THE RESULTS OF THIS? THE MASTER PLAN WILL GIVE US EVERYTHING FROM BEGINNING TO END.

SO WHAT THE COURSE DESIGN LOOKS LIKE, WHAT THE CLUBHOUSE LOOKS LIKE, HOW BIG IT SHOULD BE, WHAT THAT PROGRAM SPACE IS, NOT ACTUALLY ITS FINAL LOCATION, BUT BASED ON WHERE WE'RE AT IN THE REGION, OUR MUNICIPAL COURSE, WHAT THE FEE STRUCTURE SHOULD BE, WHAT THE MAX GREEN FEE SHOULD BE, WHAT THE PACE OF PLAY SHOULD BE.

IT ACTUALLY GOES AS DEEP AS WHAT OUR FLEET LOOKS LIKE, HOW BIG OUR FLEET SHOULD BE, WHAT OUR STAFFING MODEL SHOULD BE, WHAT LEVEL WE SHOULD SERVE IN THE TERRACE, THE RESTAURANT.

IT'S EVERYTHING.

THE ONLY THING IT DOESN'T IDENTIFY IS THE FINAL LOCATION OF THE CLUBHOUSE BECAUSE THAT'S A BIGGER CONVERSATION.

I THINK THIS IS A GOOD REALLOCATION OF THE FUNDS.

A LOT OF THE GOLFERS OUT THERE HAVE TOLD ME THEY DON'T REALLY PAY ATTENTION TO THE FENCE.

I DO BECAUSE I HOOK THE BALL OVER THERE AND SO I SPEND A LOT OF TIME NEXT TO THE FENCE.

BUT I THINK THE MASTER PLAN IS MORE IMPORTANT TO FIND OUT WHAT THE OVERALL VISION IS.

AND WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE MASTER PLAN IS THAT TO REALLY ENGAGE THE MEMBERSHIP OUT THERE, THE GOLD, SILVER, THE CREEK GUYS, THERE'S SENIOR LEAGUES THAT PLAY EVERY MORNING I KNOW OUT THERE AND I KNOW THEY HAVE A LOT OF VALUABLE INSIGHT OF HOW THEY, SOME IDEAS THAT THEY HAVE.

I THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT.

HAVE WE LOOKED AT JUST PATCHING PARTS OF THE FENCE EVEN IF IT'S NOT, WITH SOMETHING THAT MATCHES IT OR JUST SOMETHING TO PLUG THE HOLE? SO WE, I WANT TO SAY 2023, DON'T QUOTE ME ON THAT.

WE ACTUALLY PURCHASED FROM THE ORIGINAL MANUFACTURER, THE ONLY MANUFACTURER, I BELIEVE OVER A HUNDRED CONCRETE BOARDS TO REPLACE AND REPAIR.

IT TOOK US ALMOST A YEAR TO GET THEM AND THEY'RE THE ONLY ONES THAT MAKE THEM AND THEY STILL DON'T QUITE MATCH.

SO YES, WE CAN PURSUE THAT AS AN ALTERNATIVE IF YOU WANTED TO DO THAT.

I THINK THAT'S ACTUALLY WHY WE PROPOSED A DIFFERENT FENCE DESIGN BECAUSE IT'S SO DIFFICULT TO REPLACE.

WHEN WE RAN OUT, WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE.

OKAY, BUT WE DO HAVE PIECES THAT COULD, BUT WE DON'T, CURRENTLY OUT OF THE PIECES, OKAY.

BUT I STILL THINK THIS IS MORE IMPORTANT RIGHT NOW TO GET THE MASTER PLAN GOING AND FIGURE OUT WHAT WE WANT TO DO.

YES.

THAT'S WHAT I SUPPORT.

AS MUCH AS I HATE THAT FENCE,

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AND I DRIVE PAST IT MULTIPLE TIMES A DAY, SO IT REALLY IRKS ME.

IT JUST LOOKS MESSY, BUT YOU'RE RIGHT, FROM A PLAYER PERSPECTIVE, YOU'RE NOT REALLY PAYING THAT MUCH ATTENTION TO THE FENCE, I WOULDN'T THINK, UNLESS YOUR BALL GOES OVER THERE.

BUT I COMPLETELY SUPPORT GOING THIS ROUTE SO THAT WE HAVE A PLAN AND DIRECTION INSTEAD OF JUST SHOOTING FROM THE HIP, INSTEAD OF IT BEING LIKE, THAT'S WHERE WE SHOULD SPEND DOLLARS.

IS THAT ULTIMATELY THE BEST DOLLARS TO SPEND ON THE GOLF COURSE? PROBABLY NOT.

SO, ESPECIALLY FOR PLAYER ENJOYMENT, SO SUPPORT THAT TOO.

I SUPPORT THE FENCE AND REPLACING IT, JUST BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE CARS GO THROUGH THERE, KIDS AT NIGHT, AND TEAR UP YOUR GOLF COURSE.

FOUR WHEELERS WILL GO THROUGH THERE, IF THAT FENCE IS DOWN, YOU'RE WIDE OPEN.

AND I'VE SEEN THAT IN OTHER GOLF COURSES, SO IT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED.

MY QUESTION WAS, I DON'T REMEMBER HOW MUCH MONEY, $10,000 TO REDESIGN THE COURSE.

BACK THERE, GOLF COURSE DESIGN? IT'S SCHEMATIC DESIGN, SO IT'S NOT CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS, IT'S JUST GENERAL LAYOUT, YES SIR.

OKAY, SCHEMATIC DESIGN, OKAY, THANKS.

I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF, ESPECIALLY ON 16, WHERE IT FLOODS, THAT NEEDS TO GET REDONE, THE WATER NEEDS TO GET CHANNELED INTO THE LITTLE POND THAT'S THERE AND USE IT FOR POSSIBLE IRRIGATION AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO THERE'S LOTS THAT THIS STUDY CAN DO THAT WE NEED OUT THERE.

OKAY, THAT BRINGS ME TO THE FENCE REPLACEMENT.

SO AS I STATED IN THE PREVIOUS PORTION OF THE PRESENTATION, WE DID IDENTIFY THIS AS A NEED IN THE CIP FOR THIS YEAR.

WE HAD A BUDGET OF $262,500.

OUR ORIGINAL COST ESTIMATE, AFTER THAT NUMBER WAS ORIGINALLY DERIVED, WAS A LITTLE OVER $150,000, AND THAT WAS FOR A MILE OF BASIC WROUGHT IRON FIVE FOOT IN HEIGHT FENCE.

BECAUSE WE THOUGHT WE HAD A LITTLE WIGGLE ROOM IN THAT NUMBER, WE UPPED THE BASIC WROUGHT IRON TO A MORE COMMERCIAL QUALITY LEVEL THAT WE FELT COULD WITHSTAND A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A BEADING, AS WELL AS A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A DECORATIVE STYLE, AND WE ENHANCED IT TO A SIX FOOT IN THE FINAL SCOPE OF THAT PROJECT.

SO WHEN WE BID THAT, AND YOU'LL SEE THE BIDS ON A FUTURE SLIDE HERE IN A SECOND, IT CHANGED THAT SCOPE.

SO I'LL KIND OF GO INTO THAT RIGHT NOW.

THE OTHER ADDITIONAL THING WAS, AS WE SENT THIS THROUGH FLOODPLAIN REVIEW, WE IDENTIFIED ABOUT 300 LINEAR FEET OF IT THAT WOULD NEED TO HAVE A SPECIALIZED TYPE OF FENCING, WHICH ALSO IMPACTED IT.

WE DID RECEIVE 21 BIDS FOR THIS PROJECT, WITH THE LOW BID BEING OVER OUR BUDGET OF $262,000 AT $305,000, AND OUR HIGH BID BEING A LITTLE OVER $1.4 MILLION.

SO AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE WAS A WIDE RANGE OF RESPONDENTS.

THIS WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT SCOPE FOR US TO BID THROUGH OUR PURCHASING TEAM AS WE WERE LOOKING AT LOCAL FENCE COMPANIES WHEN WE GOT QUOTES, AND WHEN WE WENT TO BID IT, WE WERE LOOKING MORE AT GENERAL CONTRACTORS THAT WOULD MEET OUR QUALIFICATIONS.

AND SO ONCE WE UPPED THE SCOPE AND REFINED IT A LITTLE, IT HIT A DIFFERENT THRESHOLD THAN OUR ORIGINAL COST ESTIMATE.

SO WE WANTED TO BRING THAT FORWARD TO COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION PRIOR TO BRINGING AN AWARD BASED OFF OF FORMER RECOMMENDATIONS.

HOW TALL IS THE FENCE? THE EXISTING FENCE IS PROBABLY FOUR FOOT.

IT'S JUST THE TWO.

YEAH.

WHAT'S THE NEW ONE? SAME THING? IT WOULD HAVE BEEN SIX FOOT.

DO WE HAVE ANY PLANS TO PATCH THE EXISTING HOLES RIGHT NOW? WE COULD TAKE THAT DIRECTION THIS EVENING.

IF THAT WAS THE RECOMMENDATION OF COUNCIL WOULD BE TO REJECT THE BIDS AND PURSUE AN ALTERNATIVE, WE COULD LOOK AT THAT AS WELL.

JUST FOR NOW AND THEN WORK ON IT.

BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, IT'S A MILE OF FENCE.

IT'S GOING TO COST A FORTUNE.

SO I'D RATHER, IF WE COULD AT LEAST PATCH WHAT WE HAVE NOW.

AND I KNOW THAT'S CONCRETE, BUT WHAT IF WE USED WOOD INSTEAD OR MAYBE PVC? THE PVC MATERIAL LIKE WOOD TO PLUG TO USE THAT.

WE COULD LOOK AT ALTERNATIVE MATERIALS, YES, SIR.

I WOULD SAY WE WOULD BE COMING BACK FOR A BUDGET AMENDMENT BECAUSE WE DO NOT HAVE FUNDING FOR A FENCE.

THIS WAS A CAPITAL INVESTMENT AND THAT'S AN OPERATIONAL EXPENSE.

AND SO IT'S NOT CURRENTLY IN THE BUDGET FOR, BECAUSE IT WAS BUDGETED TO BE REPLACED AS PART OF THE CAPITAL.

REPLACED AND NOT PATCHED.

CORRECT.

SO WE'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT THE COST WOULD BE AND WE'D HAVE TO COME BACK FOR A BUDGET AMENDMENT.

IS THE MAIN FAILURE ON IT, IS IT THE RAILS OR THE POST OKAY? SOME POSTS ARE.

SOME POSTS HAVE BEEN HIT BY VEHICLES AND SO THOSE ARE NO LONGER OKAY.

SOME OF THEM HAVE SHIFTED BASED OFF OF SOIL CONDITIONS.

SO DROUGHT, THEY'LL POP DOWN AND WE'LL PUT THEM BACK UP.

SOME HAVE BEEN HIT BY VEHICLES.

SOME ARE CRACKED.

IT'S VARYING DIFFERENT ISSUES.

WHY GO SO TALL? I MEAN, WE'VE GOT A BEAUTIFUL GOLF COURSE AND NOW WE'RE FIXING TO HIDE IT.

WELL, THE WROUGHT IRON WOULD STILL BE SEE-THROUGH.

YOU'D BE ABLE TO SEE THE COURSE THROUGH THE FENCE.

AND THAT'S GOING TO BE DURABLE ENOUGH? IT WOULD BE REPAIRABLE.

SO IT'S NOT A WELD-UP? NO.

MORE SO.

AT THIS TIME, MAYOR, WE CAN TAKE FORWARD ITEM 8D.

GOOD.

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ANYBODY ELSE? OKAY.

IS THERE A MOTION ON THIS? THAT'S THE MASTER PLAN, RIGHT? YES, SIR.

IT'S THE MASTER PLAN.

MOVE TO APPROVE THE MASTER PLAN.

I HAVE A MOTION BY ADAM, A SECOND BY VICTORIA.

NOW, IF YOU COULD TAKE UP ITEM 8E, WHICH IS THE RESOLUTION REJECTING THE BIDS.

I HAVE A MOTION BY DAN, A SECOND BY ADAM.

[9.A. Receive a report, hold a discussion, and provide staff direction on the Shannon Creek Park redesign proposal. (Staff Contact: Jen Basham, Director of Parks and Recreation)]