>> I CALLED THIS MEETING TO ORDER ON MONDAY,
[1. CALL TO ORDER]
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JANUARY 5, THE 2026, OUR FIRST MEETING AT 2:32.WELL, WE'RE STARTING OFF GREAT 5:53 [INAUDIBLE] 5:33.
I'M GOING TO ASK BOB MASSEY TO COME UP, AND I'VE GOT ALL THESE THINGS THAT HE'S DONE.
HE SAID, PLEASE JUST SAY I'M A RETIRED PREACHER.
WOULD EVERYBODY PLEASE RISE FOR OUR INVOCATION AND ALSO OUR PLEDGES.
>> HAPPY NEW YEAR, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL.
>> HEY, HAPPY NEW YEAR, EVERYBODY.
>> LET'S PRAY. HEAVENLY FATHER, LORD, AS WE FACE A NEW YEAR, LORD, WE PRAY, AS YOU HAVE TAUGHT US TO PRAY, YOUR KINGDOM COME.
YOUR WILL BE DONE ON EARTH AS IT IS IN HEAVEN.
LORD, AS WE START A NEW YEAR, WE'RE ALWAYS THANKFUL AND MINDFUL OF OUR FIRST RESPONDERS AND DISPATCHERS PRAYING YOUR HEDGE OF PROTECTION AND YOUR EMPOWERING GRACE FOR 2026.
LORD FOR THIS EVENING, WE PRAY YOUR KINGDOM, INFLUENCE OF RIGHTEOUSNESS, PEACE, AND JOY.
INFLUENCE, EVERY AGENDA, DISCUSS, AND EVERY DECISION MADE FOR THE GOOD OF OUR COMMUNITY, THE SATISFACTION OF THIS COUNCIL AND TO THE HONOR OF YOUR NAME FOR 2026.
THANK YOU, LORD, FOR MAYOR FLETCHER AND EACH OF THESE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THEIR DEVOTION TO THE PEACE, PROSPERITY, AND CHARACTER OF OUR CITY.
WE PRAY YOUR RICHEST BLESSINGS ON EACH COUNCIL MEMBER, STAFF MEMBER, AND PUBLIC SERVANT AND THEIR FAMILIES TODAY, AND FOR THE COMING YEAR.
IT'S IN JESUS NAME WE PRAY AND EVERYBODY SAYS.
>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, AND HAPPY 2026.
[2.B. Presentations]
THAT BRINGS US TO SECTION 2.WE HAVE NO PROCLAMATIONS THIS EVENING, SO THAT BRINGS US TO 2 B.
THIS IS TO RECEIVE A REPORT TO RECOGNIZE THE SELECTED EMPLOYEE OF THE QUARTER FOR THE FOURTH QUARTER OF 2025, AND THE EMPLOYEE OF THE YEAR FOR 2025.
THE STAFF PRESENTER THIS EVENING IS WANDA BULLARD, DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF HUMAN RESOURCES. BULLARD.
IT'S WONDERFUL TO BE HERE TONIGHT WITH YOU.
I ALWAYS HAVE THE HONOR TO RECOGNIZE THE EMPLOYEE OF THE QUARTER, AND THIS TIME, I WILL ALSO BE RECOGNIZING THE EMPLOYEE OF THE YEAR.
THIS HONOR IS FOR THE YEAR 2025.
I'M HAPPY TO ANNOUNCE THAT WE'RE ABSOLUTELY GOING TO CONTINUE OUR EMPLOYEE OF THE QUARTER RECOGNITION GOING INTO 2026, BUT WE'RE GOING TO DO SO ALIGNING WITH OUR AMAZING NEW CORE VALUES, A LOT OF WORK WENT INTO DEVELOPING THOSE CORE VALUES OF EMPATHY, EXCELLENCE, TRUST, AND COLLABORATION.
WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT TO YOU TERRY LYNCH, IF I COULD HAVE TERRY STAND.
TERRI LYNCH IS OUR BENEFITS AND WELLNESS ADMINISTRATOR, AND SHE WAS OUR EMPLOYEE OF THE FOURTH QUARTER.
I HAVE SUCH AN HONOR TO WORK WITH TERRY EVERY DAY VERY CLOSELY, AND SHE WAS NOMINATED FOR GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND FOR HELPING A CITIZEN THAT JUST CAME IN, AND THEY DID NOT KNOW WHERE TO GO.
THEY WERE STRUGGLING WITH HER SOCIAL SECURITY BENEFITS, EVEN ACCESSING THEIR EMAIL.
TERRY SPENT A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF TIME HELPING THE CITIZEN.
GET INTO THEIR EMAIL, UNDERSTANDING WHERE TO GO TO ULTIMATELY RESOLVE THE ISSUE.
BUT THIS IS WHAT SHE DOES EVERY DAY.
I'D LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT THAT TERRY HAS OVER 25 YEARS OF MUNICIPAL SERVICE BETWEEN OUR CITY, THE CITY OF ARLINGTON, AND THE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE.
TERRI IS ALSO A RETIRED ARMY VETERAN OF 33 YEARS SERVING OUR COUNTRY.
SHE SPENDS A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF HER TIME OUTSIDE OF OUR CITY TIME TO GIVE VETERANS SUPPORT AND FIRST RESPONDER SUPPORT WITH A PODCAST THAT SHE HAS THAT HIGHLIGHTS VETERANS RESOURCES AND VETERAN OWNED BUSINESSES.
PLEASE HELP ME RECOGNIZE TERRY LYNCH [APPLAUSE] I ALSO HAVE THE HONOR TO PRESENT TO YOU OUR EMPLOYEE OF THE YEAR 2025, WENDY LASTAVIKA ALVI.
WENDY, CAN I HAVE YOU STAND? YOU'VE GOT TO SEE WENDY BEFORE WHEN SHE WAS INITIALLY NOMINATED AND SELECTED.
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OUR EMPLOYEE OF THE YEAR IS SELECTED FROM THE EMPLOYEE OF THE QUARTERS, AND I JUST WANT TO MENTION THEM QUICKLY.WE HAD JULIA MUNO STREET MAINTENANCE WORKER AND WENDY BOTH IN THE FIRST QUARTER THAT WERE SELECTED.
WE HAD JOE LASTER IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND DETECTIVE MARK PAT IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT WAS NOMINATED AND SELECTED IN SECOND QUARTER.
THIRD QUARTER WAS DAVID MURPHY FACILITY, MAINTENANCE SPECIALIST IN PUBLIC WORKS, AND THEN, OF COURSE, OUR FOURTH QUARTER SELECTION, TERRY LYNCH.
WENDY WAS ULTIMATELY SELECTED FOR JUST HER DAY TO DAY SERVICE AND HOW SHE MEETS THE NEEDS OF THE TEENS IN OUR COMMUNITY AND THE CITIZENS THAT WE SERVE.
SHE SPEARHEADED PROJECT PROM, WHICH MET A NEED FOR TEENS, AND SHE JUST DIDN'T SPEARHEAD IT.
SHE MADE IT AN EXPERIENCE FOR THEM.
SHE SET IT UP LIKE A BOUTIQUE AND GAVE THEM A REAL SHOPPING EXPERIENCE.
SHE ALSO HAS SET UP A VERY DISCRETE WAY THAT TEENS CAN GET HYGIENE PRODUCTS THAT THEY NEED, VERY DISCREETLY.
THEN SHE ALSO SAT WITH A CITIZEN AFTER HOURS IN THE DARK WHEN THE LIBRARY WAS CLOSED, AND THE CITIZEN HAD LOCKED THEIR KEYS IN THE VEHICLE.
SHE STAYED WITH THEM UNTIL SOMEBODY COULD CAN COME HELP THEM.
WENDY, THANK YOU. PLEASE JOIN ME IN RECOGNIZING WENDY [APPLAUSE]
>> I WILL TELL YOU BOTH OF THEM HATE THE SPOTLIGHT, SO THIS IS VERY PAINFUL FOR BOTH OF THEM, AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THEM BEING HERE.
>> WE'LL MAKE YOU QUICK. COUNSEL [INAUDIBLE]
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
[2.C. Community Interest Items]
THAT BRINGS US TO 2C COMMUNITY INTEREST ITEMS.>> I'VE GOT STUFF [LAUGHTER] FOR THOSE WHO MAY HAVE MISSED THIS ANNOUNCEMENT, OUR AWESOME FARMERS MARKET FOR THE SPRING HAS MOVED TO ONCE A MONTH UNTIL THE WARMER MONTHS.
I THINK IN APRIL, THEY'LL GO BACK TO EVERY SATURDAY.
LAST SATURDAY WAS THE JANUARY FARMERS MARKET, AND IT WAS PHENOMENAL.
MY FAMILY CAME OUT AND DID QUITE A BIT OF SHOPPING, AND THEN SPENT SATURDAY BUILDING LEGOS ALL DAY.
THERE'S GREAT VENDORS, AND THERE'S A LOT OF COMPETITION FOR THOSE VENDORS.
THEY REALLY DO A GREAT JOB OF RECRUITING GOOD PEOPLE AND DIFFERENT TYPES OF THINGS THAT ARE ALL HANDMADE, HOMEMADE.
AMAZING, DELICIOUS THINGS, ALL KINDS OF COAL STUFF.
I HIGHLY RECOMMEND YOU MARK THE FEBRUARY DATE ON YOUR CALENDAR.
IT'LL BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO GO SHOP FOR YOUR LOFT ONES AND PICK UP SOMETHING SWEET FOR THEM.
THEN, I ALSO WANT TO MAKE A PLUG FOR THIS REALLY NEAT EVENT THAT'S COMING UP.
IT'S CALLED LET'S TACO ABOUT QPR.
IT'S A SUICIDE PREVENTION OPPORTUNITY.
IT'S FOR PARENTS, FRIENDS, NEIGHBORS, TEACHERS, MINISTERS, PEOPLE THAT INTERACT WITH PEOPLE.
THIS IS FOR YOU. ANYONE CAN LEARN HOW TO RECOGNIZE THE WARNING SIGNS, OFFER HOPE AND HELP INDIVIDUALS FIND HELP.
THIS TRAINING WILL BE TAKING PLACE TUESDAY,
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JANUARY 20 AT THE BRICK.IT IS FREE TO ATTEND, BUT THEY DO ASK THAT YOU REGISTER JUST SO THEY HAVE A GOOD HEAD COUNT BECAUSE YOU GET D TACOS, AND WHO DOESN'T LOVE TACOS.
IT'S SPONSORED BY THE FIRST UNITED METHODIST CHURCH, AND AGAIN, IT'S AT THE BRICK, AND SO THE CITY IS A PARTNER, BUT WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE A GOOD ATTENDANCE THERE.
EVEN THOUGH IT COMPETES WITH THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING, IF YOU'RE NOT PAYING ATTENTION TO US THAT NIGHT.
MAYBE YOU CAN SWING BY AND ENJOY SOME TACOS AND GET SOME REALLY HELPFUL INFORMATION.
>> I'M JUST GOING TO RATTLE HERE JUST FOR A SECOND, WHICH I'M PRETTY GOOD AT.
I JUST WANT TO TAKE THIS TIME TO SHOW APPRECIATION TO OUR STAFF AND WHAT WE'VE BEEN THROUGH IN 2025 WITH THE BUDGET AND STUFF OF THAT NATURE AND HOW WE CAME TOGETHER AND GOT THINGS DONE.
BUT I ALSO WANT TO COMPLIMENT MY COUNSEL.
WE WE GET ALONG. I JUST WANT TO KNOW HOW I APPRECIATE THIS AND HOW GOOD A GROUP THIS IS.
THANK YOU, STAFF, AND I APPRECIATE THAT.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
[3. CHANGES TO POSTED AGENDA]
CHANGES TO THE POSTED AGENDA, 2 A IS ITEMS TO BE CONTINUED OR WITHDRAWN, AND 2B IS ITEMS TO BE WITHDRAWN FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR SUB DISCUSSION BY BY THE CITY COUNCIL, STAFF, OR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC IN ATTENDANCE.ARE THERE ANY CHANGES? I'M SORRY 3B.
THANK YOU. THAT'LL BRING US ON TO SECTION FOUR CITIZENS APPEARANCE.
[4. CITIZENS APPEARANCES]
EACH PERSON IN ATTENDANCE WHO DESIRES TO SPEAK TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON AN ITEM NOT POSTED ON THE AGENDA, SHALL SPEAK DURING THIS SECTION.EACH SPEAKER MUST FILL OUT A SPEAKER CARD, TURN IT INTO THE CITY SECRETARY PRIOR TO ADDRESS IN THE CITY COUNCIL.
EACH SPEAKER WILL BE ALLOWED 3 MINUTES TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL.
EACH PERSON IN ATTENDANCE WHO DESIRES TO SPEAK TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON AN ITEM POSTED ON THE AGENDA SHALL SPEAK WHEN THAT ITEM IS CALLED FORWARD FOR CONSIDERATION.
AT THIS TIME, I DO HAVE ONE SPEAKER CARD FOR CITIZENS APPEARANCE.
>> HELLO. I DON'T EVEN NEED A MICROPHONE, BELIEVE ME.
I'M TONY WING JENKINS, AND I HAVE LIVED ON EDGE HILL ROAD HERE IN BURLSON FOR 24 YEARS, WHICH IS AMAZING, IF YOU KNEW HOW OFTEN I MOVED.
I LOVE THE LIBRARY. THAT'S WHY I'M HERE.
I'M WITH THE FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARY.
I'M ON THE LIBRARY BOARD, AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALLOWING ME TO DO THAT BECAUSE IT MEANS SO MUCH TO ME.
BUT I JUST WANTED TO SHARE SOME FACTS. ABOUT THE LIBRARY.
SOME NUMBERS. LOOKING AT LAST YEAR THROUGH OCTOBER OF LAST YEAR.
THERE WERE 92,317, SORRY, DIGITAL DOWNLOADS.
WELL, WE DID. WE IN THE CITY, DOWNLOADED OVER 92,000 BOOKS.
THE LIBRARY ISSUED 2,913 NEW CARDS LAST YEAR, 14,799 PEOPLE CAME INTO THE LIBRARY LAST YEAR JUST TO USE THE WIFI.
IT COSTS A LOT OF MONEY, AND THAT MADE IT AVAILABLE TO PEOPLE WHO COULDN'T AFFORD IT.
NOW, WE SAY LIBRARIES AREN'T AS IMPORTANT BECAUSE EVERYBODY DOES THINGS DIGITALLY.
LAST YEAR, THROUGH JUST OCTOBER, 231,213 PHYSICAL ITEMS WERE CHECKED OUT OF THE LIBRARY.
DO YOU REALIZE HOW MANY A DAY THAT IS PEOPLE WALKING OUT OF THE LIBRARY WITH THINGS? THERE WERE 207,025 VISITORS TO THE LIBRARY AND 718,000, SORRY, 412 PEOPLE ATTENDED PROGRAMS, INCLUDING THE PLAY AND EARN PROGRAMS, F TODDLERS AGE 12 THROUGH 36.
NOW, IF ANY OF YOU HAVE EVER BEEN AROUND TODDLERS, AGE 12 TO 36, THEY'RE PRETTY ENERGETIC, AND 116 OF THOSE KIDS CAME TO THOSE PLAY AND LEARNS.
32 TEENS SHOWED UP AFTER HOURS TO PLAY GOLF AT THE LIBRARY, AND THEN OVER 100 ADULTS FILLED GRUMPS TO PLAY GILMORE GIRLS TRIVIA, WHICH WAS A HOOT.
THOSE ARE JUST A FEW LIBRARY NUMBERS, AND JUST 1 MILLION OF THE REASONS WHY I LOVE THE LIBRARY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR LISTENING.
>> OH, WOW [APPLAUSE] BOY, IF ENTHUSIASM IS CONTAGIOUS.
I MIGHT CATCH IT. I MIGHT HAVE BE ABLE TO SLEEP FOR A WEEK [LAUGHTER]
>> HAVE YOU EVER THOUGHT ABOUT SELLING CARS OR SOMETHING? YOU'RE GOOD. THANK YOU.
>> IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON AN ITEM NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA THIS EVENING.
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THAT'LL MOVE US ON TO SECTION 5, THE CONSENT AGENDA.[5. CONSENT AGENDA]
ALL ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA ARE CONSIDERED TO BE ROUTINED BY THE CITY COUNCIL AND WILL BE ENACTED WITH ONE MOTION.THERE'LL BE NO SEPARATE DISCUSSION OF THE ITEMS. APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA AUTHORIZES THE CITY MANAGER TO IMPLEMENT EACH ITEM IN ACCORDANCE WITH STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS.
THIS EVENING, THE CONSENT AGENDA CONSISTS OF ITEMS 5 A THROUGH 5F.
>>MOTION ADJURED. IS THERE A MOTION ON THIS? [INAUDIBLE] I GOT A MOTION BY DAN, A SECOND BY LARRY. PLEASE VOTE.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
[6.A. 2245 SW Wilshire Blvd (Case 25-305): Hold a public hearing and consider and take possible action on an ordinance for a zoning change request from “A” Agricultural to “SF7” Single-family for development of approximately 13 single-family lots. (First and Final Reading) (Staff Contact: Tony D. McIlwain, Development Services Director) (The Planning and Zoning Commission recommended approval 8-0)]
THAT BRINGS SECTION 6, DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS, 6.A IS 2245, SOUTHWEST WILSHIRE BOULEVARD, CASE 25-305.THIS IS TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER TO TAKE POSSIBLE ACTION ON AN ORDINANCE FOR A ZONING CHANGE REQUEST FROM A, AGRICULTURE TO SF7, SINGLE-FAMILY FOR DEVELOPMENT OF APPROXIMATELY 13 SINGLE-FAMILY LOTS.
THIS IS BEFORE CITY COUNCIL ON FIRST AND FINAL READING.
THE STAFF PRESENTED THIS EVENING IS TONY MCLAIN, DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. MR. MCLAIN.
THIS IS YOUR FIRST ZONING CASE FOR THE NEW YEAR.
THIS LOCATION IS PROPERTY THAT'S ADJACENT TO THE BEAR RIDGE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S CURRENTLY UNDER REVIEW BY CITY STAFF.
MATT POWELL IS THE AGENT REPRESENTING MR. MATYASTIK, THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY.
THEY'RE SEEKING TO LOOK AT CHANGING THE PROPERTY FROM AGRICULTURAL USE TO ALLOW FOR SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL SF7 ZONING.
JUST BY WAY OF WHERE THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED, IF YOU WERE TO LOOK AT THE SUBDIVISION PLATS THAT HAVE BEEN REVIEWED BY CITY STAFF, THIS IS A REMAINDER TRACK JUST NORTH OF ONE OF THE SUBDIVISIONS THAT WALTER MATYASTIK HAS PLATTED.
EXCUSE ME. IT WOULD ALLOW ROUGHLY 13 RESIDENTIAL LOTS IF APPROVED AND DEVELOPED.
THIS IS THE SUBDIVISION PLAT CONCEPTUAL LAYOUT THAT STAFF HAS BEEN REVIEWING.
THE PROPERTY WOULD ESSENTIALLY TIE INTO LOUIS LANE THAT'S GOING TO BE DEVELOPED BY MR. MATYASTIK, AND AGAIN, WOULD YIELD APPROXIMATELY 13 LOTS BASED ON A CONCEPTUAL LAYOUT.
WE NOTIFIED INDIVIDUALS WITHIN 300 FEET OF THE SITE, RECEIVED NO FORMAL OPPOSITION, AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND THEIR REVIEW OF THE CASE RECOMMENDED APPROVAL BY A VOTE OF EIGHT TO ZERO.
I'D LIKE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE PRIOR TO OPENING A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE MATTER.
>> ANYBODY? I'M GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 5:51.
IS THERE ANYONE THAT'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS IN THE AUDIENCE?
>> YES, SIR. I DO HAVE A SPEAKER CARD.
ARE YOU THE APPLICANT, SIR? SO WE WON'T BE TIMING YOU.
>> HELLO, I'M WALTER MATYASTIK, ADDRESS OF 1520, THOMAS PLACE, FORT WARD, TEXAS.
AS YOU SAW BY THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN, THIS PIECE OF LAND TIES DIRECTLY INTO THE DEVELOPMENT THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY FINISHING UP.
IN FACT, OUR STREETS HAVE BEEN PAVED FOR THE FIRST PHASE.
WE'LL HAVE THE FINAL WALK THROUGH DONE THIS NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS BY MICHELLE AND THE STAFF THAT, WILL COMPLETE IT.
ALL WE'RE DOING IS EXTENDING LOUIS LANE A FEW MORE LOTS DOWN AND TURNING IT IN CAVE LANE, WHICH WILL TIE INTO ANOTHER PIECE THAT'S BEEN CONCEPTUALLY LAID OUT FOR ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT GROUP.
WE'RE REALLY SMACKING OR PUTTING 13 LOTS IN BETWEEN SF7 AND SF7, AND JUST TYING IT TOGETHER.
THE REASON I DIDN'T DO THIS BEFORE IS WE WEREN'T SURE IF WE WERE GOING TO DEVELOP THIS OR IF IT'S GOING TO BE SOLD OFF AS A SINGLE TRACK, BUT THIS IS WHERE WE CURRENTLY STAND.
>> IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL? I HAVE NO OTHER SPEAKER CARDS.
>> THEN I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 5:52.
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IS THERE A MOTION ON THIS?>> A MOTION BY ADAM, A SECOND BY VICTORIA.
PLEASE VOTE. PASS IS UNANIMOUS.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
THAT BRINGS US TO ITEMS 6.B AND 6.C AT THIS TIME.
[6.B. 1500 CR 602, Voluntary Annexation (Case 25-260): Hold a public hearing and consider and take possible action on an ordinance for the voluntary annexation of approximately 80.122 acres of land in the exclusive Extraterritorial Jurisdiction (ETJ) of the City of Burleson, generally located at 1500 CR 602. (First and Final Reading) (Staff Contact: Tony McIlwain, Development Services Director) (No Planning and Zoning Commission action was required for this item)]
BEFORE I ANNOUNCE THE ITEMS, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT THAT THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED THAT THESE ITEMS BE MOVED FORWARD FOR CONSIDERATION AND ACTION TO THE FEBRUARY 2, 2026 COUNCIL MEETING AT 5:30.WE WILL, HOWEVER, ARE LEGALLY OBLIGATED TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING TO ALLOW ANYBODY IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS WHO WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM.
HOWEVER, AFTER ALL THE SPEAKERS HAVE GONE, WE WILL THEN CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING, AS LONG AS THE MAYOR JUST SPECIFICALLY SAYS, CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BATE DATE SPECIFIC, PLEASE, TO FEBRUARY 2, 2026 AT 5:30.
THERE WILL BE NO OTHER CONSIDERATION ON THIS ITEM OR NO ACTION TAKEN THIS EVENING.
>> I KNOW THE IMPACT THAT PEOPLE HAVE ON COUNCIL AND STUFF.
DO Y'ALL WANT TO SPEAK NOW OR WAIT TILL FEBRUARY 2?
>> I'LL GO AHEAD AND ANNOUNCE THE ITEMS IF YOU DON'T MIND.
>> CALL THEM INTO THE RECORD. THANK YOU, SIR.
6.B IS 1500, COUNTY ROAD 602, VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION.
TONIGHT IS TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER AND TAKE POSSIBLE ACTION ON AN ORDINANCE FOR VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION OF APPROXIMATELY 80.122 ACRES OF LAND IN THE EXCLUSIVE EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION OF THE CITY OF BURLESON, GENERALLY LOCATED AT 1500 COUNTY ROAD 6602.
THIS WAS BEFORE CITY COUNCIL ON FIRST AND FINAL READING.
>> WE'RE HAVING A DISCUSSION BACK THERE RIGHT NOW. YOU'D LIKE TO WAIT?
>> MAYOR, YOU ARE LEGALLY OBLIGATED TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, HOWEVER.
>> I'M SORRY. I WANT TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 5:54.
DOES ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE LIKE TO SPEAK ON IT OR WAIT? THEN I WANT TO PUT THIS OFF UNTIL FEBRUARY 2.
>> YOU'RE GOING TO CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING?
>> I'LL CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING UNTIL FEBRUARY 2ND.
[6.C. 1500 CR 602 (Case 25-258): Hold a public hearing and consider and take possible action on an ordinance for a zoning change request from defaulted “A” Agricultural to “SF10” Single-family for the development of a single-family subdivision with minimum lot sizes of 10,000 square feet. (First and Final Reading) (Staff Contact: Tony D. McIlwain, Development Services Director) (The Planning and Zoning Commission recommended disapproval 8-0)]
>> SIR, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO THIS AGAIN FOR ITEM 6.C, SIR? 6.C IS 1500, COUNTY ROAD 602, CASE 25-258 IS TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER AND TAKE POSSIBLE ACTION ON AN ORDINANCE FOR A ZONING CHANGE REQUEST FROM DEFAULTED A AGRICULTURE TO SF7 SINGLE-FAMILY FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF SINGLE-FAMILY SUBDIVISION WITH A MINIMUM LOT SIZE OF 10,000 SQUARE FEET.
THIS WAS BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL ON FIRST AND FINAL READING.
>> I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THIS ITEM OF PUBLIC HEARING AT 5:56.
WE'RE GOING TO TABLE THIS, ALSO, AND WE'RE GOING TO NEED A VOTE ON THIS.
>> SURE. WE WOULD LIKE TO GET A MOTION TO THE TABLE OF ITEMS 6.B AND 6.C UNTIL THE REGULARLY SCHEDULED COUNCIL MEETING TO BE HELD ON FEBRUARY 2ND AT 5:30 PM.
>> SIR, WHAT WE WILL DO SINCE YOU OPENED THE PUBLIC HEARING, WE'LL JUST ASK FOR SPEAKERS, YOU'LL CONTINUE IT, AND THEN WE'LL GO.
I'LL TAKE US BACK TO 6.B FOR MOTIONS THAT WE NEED.
IF YOU'LL JUST CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING?
>> IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? I SEE NOBODY.
>> THANK YOU, SIR. NOW, WE'LL GO BACK TO 6.B FOR AN APPROPRIATE ACTION FOR TO TABLE THE ITEM.
>> IS THERE A MOTION TO TABLE THIS ITEM?
>> THE CONTINUE THE ITEM 6(A).
>> I'LL MAKE A MOTION, CONTINUE 6.B UNTIL THE FEBRUARY 2ND, 2026, REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING AT 5:30.
>> I'VE GOT A MOTION BY LARRY, SECOND BY ALEXA.
PLEASE VOTE. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUS.
IF YOU'LL ASK FOR A MOTION ON THAT, TOO, PLEASE?
>> I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CONTINUE ITEM 6.C TO THE FEBRUARY 2ND, REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING AT 5:30.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION BY VICTORIA AND A SECOND BY ALEXA,
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PLEASE VOTE. PASS UNANIMOUS.>> THANK YOU. WE GOT THROUGH THAT.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENTS AUDIENCE, TOO.
THAT'LL MOVE US ON TO SEVEN, GENERAL.
[7.A. Hold a public hearing and consider and take possible action on an ordinance amending ordinances CSO#1215-12-2019 and CSO#200-06-2022, to modify the Preliminary Plat, Final Plat, and Replat policies; selecting the Development Assistance Committee as the approval body for Preliminary Plats, Final Plats, and Replats. (First Reading) (Staff Contact: Tony D. McIlwain, Development Services Director)]
SO 7.A IS TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER AND TAKE POSSIBLE ACTION ON AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NUMBER CSO 1215-12-2019, AND CSO NUMBER 200-06-2022, TO MODIFY THE PRELIMINARY PLAT, FINAL PLAT, AND REPLAT POLICIES, SELECTING THE DEVELOPMENT ASSISTANCE COMMITTEE AS THE APPROVING BODY FOR PRELIMINARY PLATS, FINAL PLATS AND REPLATS.THIS IS BEFORE CITY COUNCIL ON FIRST READING.
THE STAFF PRESENTED THIS EVENING IS TONY MCLAIN, DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. MR. MCLAIN.
>> THANK YOU. MAYOR AND COUNCIL, BACK ON NOVEMBER 3RD AT THAT COUNCIL MEETING, YOU DIRECTED CITY STAFF TO MODIFY THE PLAT APPROVAL PROCESS.
THE PURPOSE OF THE CHANGES TO THE SUBDIVISION AND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS WAS TO ACCOMPLISH THE FOLLOWING; ALLOW FOR THE APPROVAL PROCESS TO BE COMPLETED AT THE DAC LEVEL, WHICH RESULTS IN SOME TIME SAVINGS BY THE APPLICANTS BY ELIMINATING THE NEED FOR PRELIMINARY PLATS, REPLATS, AND FINAL PLATS TO BE PLACED ON A PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION'S CONSENT AGENDA FOR COMPULSORY APPROVAL.
THIS PROCESS WILL NOT ELIMINATE ANY OTHER REVIEW RELATED TO ENGINEERING.
THE PLATTING PROCESS WILL STILL BE REQUIRED TO SATISFY PLATTING POLICIES, AND ALSO COMPLY WITH HOUSE BILL 3167, WHICH IS WHAT WE CALL A 30-DAY SHOT CLOCK.
THE ORDINANCE THAT WAS INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET HAS BEEN REVISED TO ESSENTIALLY EFFECTUATE THE CHANGE THAT WE JUST MENTIONED.
ITEMS WOULD COME IN AS THEY NORMALLY WOULD.
THE DEVELOPMENT ASSISTANCE COMMITTEE WILL REVIEW IT.
IF THE PLAT MEETS ALL OF THE COMMENTS, IT WILL BE SIGNED BY AN OFFICER, MORE THAN LIKELY MYSELF AND THE PLAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED APPROVED.
THOSE PLATS THAT REQUIRE WAIVERS OR VARIANCES WOULD THEN GO TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
STAFF WOULD NOT APPROVE ANY PLATS THAT REQUIRE WAIVERS AND VARIANCES, THAT WOULD BE HANDLED BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
THERE ARE CERTAIN INSTANCES WHERE PLATS WOULD BE PLACED ON YOUR AGENDA, AND THAT'S WHAT WE CALL A RESERVE OF AUTHORITY.
THAT'S TYPICALLY WHEN THERE'S A FISCAL IMPACT RELATED TO THAT PLAT, AND NEITHER THE STAFF COMMISSION IS AUTHORIZED TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS.
THOSE ARE THE NARROW WINDOWS IN WHICH A PLAT WOULD LEAVE THE DECK, GO TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, OR IN SOME INSTANCES, GO ON TO CITY COUNCIL.
ON THE SCREEN, I HAVE WRITTEN APPEAL FOR DENIED PLATS, WILL GO TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
THEY WILL GO TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
IF DOING A REVIEW OF OUR SUBDIVISION PLAT WE CAN'T REACH UNDERSTANDING WITH THE APPLICANT, WE WOULD THEN TAKE THAT PLAT WITH THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, WILL BE THE BODY THAT WOULD HEAR EITHER CONDITIONS FOR APPROVAL OR ANY CONCERNS WITH REGARD TO A PLAT BEING DENIED, AND WILL BE DONE UPON WRITTEN APPEAL BY THE APPLICANT.
ESSENTIALLY, WE'LL SPEED UP THE PROCESS FOR ANYONE SUBMITTING A PLAT TO THE CITY.
IF YOU MEET THE RULES, YOU SHOULD SEE AN IMMEDIATE INCREASE IN TIME SAVINGS BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE TO WAIT A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME TO GET YOU LOADED ONTO A PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AGENDA.
THIS WOULD BE FIRST READING OF THIS ITEM.
IF YOU SEE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE ANY DISCUSSION YOU'D LIKE TO HAVE OR ANY CHANGES.
I'D LIKE TO ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
>> COUNCIL, IS THERE ANY QUESTION?
>> TONY, IF IT GETS DENIED AT THE DAC LEVEL, AND THEN THEY APPEAL IT TO THE P&Z, AND P&Z WERE TO APPROVE IT, DOES IT STOP THERE?
>> SO IT WOULD. THEN IF IT GOT DENIED THERE, THEN THEY'D APPEAL TO US, AND THEN CITY COUNCIL.
>> AT THAT POINT IN TIME, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE THE ORDINANCE CONSTRUCTED THAT WAY TO ALLOW A SECONDARY APPEAL. WE CAN PUT IT IN.
>> SO THEY'RE STILL THE FINAL.
>> YES. STAFF WILL NEVER HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO BE THE FINAL ARBITER OF A SUBDIVISION PLAT THAT IS DENIED, FOR INSTANCE.
IF YOU'RE NOT MEETING THE CITY'S RULES AND YOU DON'T HAVE AN APPEAL THAT YOU WANT TO PROCESS, THEN, OF COURSE, IT STOPS THERE, BUT ANY APPEAL, ANY WAIVE OR ANY VARIOUS WOULD LEAVE THE CITY STAFF.
>> THANK YOU, STAFF, FOR BEING WILLING TO DO THIS AND MOVE THIS FORWARD.
I'M ENTIRELY CONFIDENT THIS IS GOING TO BE A BETTER WAY TO DO IT THAN WE'VE BEEN DOING IT BEFORE.
>> ANYONE ELSE? I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 6:02.
IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS? THEN I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 6:03.
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IS THERE A MOTION ON THIS? I GOT A MOTION BY DAN, A SECOND BY ADAM. PLEASE VOTE.>> MAYOR AND COUNCIL, IF I MAY, THIS IS, I THINK ON THE JENNIFER FIRST READING.
IT'S GOING TO BE ON YOUR NEXT CITY COUNCIL AGENDA JUST AS AN FYI.
IF IT'S SUCCESSFULLY APPROVED, WE WILL BRIEF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ON THE COUNCIL'S DECISION AND THEN CHANGE COURSE ACCORDINGLY.
THAT BRINGS US TO THE NEXT THREE ITEMS
[7.B. Consider and take possible action on a Resolution ordering the May 2, 2026 General Election, electing the Mayor, Place 2, Place 4, and Place 6. (Staff Contact: Amanda Campos, City Secretary)]
HAVING TO DO WITH THE ELECTION THAT I WILL BE PRESENTING, SO I'LL CALL ALL THREE OF THEM UP.I WILL HAVE SEPARATE PRESENTATIONS, HOWEVER, 7.B IS TO CONSIDER AND TAKE POSSIBLE ACTION ON A RESOLUTION, ORDERING THE MAY 2ND, 2026 GENERAL ELECTION, ELECTING THE MAYOR, PLACE 2, PLACE 4, AND PLACE 6, 7.C IS TO CONSIDER AND TAKE POSSIBLE ACTION ON A JOINT ELECTION RESOLUTION WITH THE BURLESON INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT FOR THE MAY 2ND, 2026 GENERAL ELECTION, AND 7.D IS TO CONSIDER AND TAKE POSSIBLE ACTION ON AN IN LOCAL AGREEMENT WITH JOHNSON COUNTY FOR THE USE OF JOHNSON COUNTY SUB-COURTHOUSE LOCATED AT 2:47 ELK DRIVE, TO BE HELD SPECIFICALLY IN ROOM 212 FOR THE MAY 2ND, 2026 GENERAL ELECTION AS THE POLLING LOCATION.
>> THAT'S NECESSARY TO SET UP.
>> THEY WERE A SINGLE PRESENTATION.
>> THAT'S OKAY. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE IT.
JUST A LITTLE BIT OF TECHNICAL DIFFICULTY THERE.
TONY DIDN'T DO ANYTHING WRONG.
THIS IS TO PRESENT THE MAY 2ND 2026 GENERAL ELECTION TO YOU.
IF YOU'LL REMEMBER BACK IN DECEMBER, I MADE A FULL PRESENTATION ON ALL THESE THREE ITEMS TO GET THE FEEDBACK FROM THE COUNCIL.
THIS IS YOUR ELECTION. YOU ARE THE GOVERNING BODY THAT ORDERS THE ELECTIONS.
I'M THE ONE THAT HOLDS AND CARRIES OUT YOUR ORDERS.
BUT THAT SAID, THE ELECTION OVERVIEW IS FOR THE FOUR PLACES THAT ARE UP, MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL, PLACE 2, 4 AND 6.
THEY ARE ALL FOR FULL TERMS, SO THOSE ARE THREE YEAR TERMS. WE MUST HOLD THE ELECTION ON A UNIFORM ELECTION DATE, WHICH IS ALWAYS THE FIRST SATURDAY IN MAY, WHICH THIS YEAR HAPPENS TO BE MAY 2ND.
AS I SAID, THE GOVERNING BODY IS THE AUTHORITY.
HOWEVER, YOU ARE REQUIRED TO ORDER THIS GENERAL ELECTION 78 DAYS PRIOR TO THE ELECTION, SO THAT'D BE FEBRUARY 13TH.
YOU HAVE UNTIL FEBRUARY 13TH, BUT WE DON'T EVER WANT TO WAIT TILL THE LAST MINUTE.
THIS RESOLUTION ORDERS THE ELECTION.
WE STATE THAT IT IS DONE IN AN OPEN MEETING BECAUSE THIS MUST BE DONE IN AN OPEN MEETING.
WE ARE GOING TO CONDUCT OUR OWN ELECTIONS.
AS YOU KNOW, WE ARE IN TWO COUNTIES, JOHNSON AND TARRANT COUNTY, HOWEVER, JOHNSON COUNTY ON EVEN NUMBERED YEARS DOES NOT CONTRACT WITH LOCAL AUTHORITIES.
I'VE TOLD YOU THIS FOR YEARS, I'M STILL WORKING ON THAT.
THEY'RE EVENTUALLY GOING TO TELL ME TO QUIT COMING TO COMMISSIONER'S COURT.
THEN ALSO TO ENTER INTO A JOINT RESOLUTION WITH THE BURLESON SCHOOL DISTRICT TO CONDUCT THEIR ELECTIONS, BECAUSE THEY ARE IN THE SAME VOTE THAT WE ARE.
THEY'RE HAVING A GENERAL ELECTION AND THE COUNTY WILL NOT CONTRACT WITH THEM, BUT THEY ARE OBLIGATED.
THEY HAVE TO CONTRACT WITH SOMEBODY.
THE ELEMENTS OF THE ORDER THAT ARE IN PLACE BEFORE TONIGHT, SO WHAT YOU'LL DO IS YOU HAVE TO STATE THE ELECTION DATE, THE RACES, THE FILING DATES, THE BALLOT ORDER.
WE'VE DONE ALL THAT, ESTABLISHED THE ELECTION PRECINCT, YOUR ELECTION JUDGES, YOUR EARLY VOTING JUDGES, ADOPTING YOUR VOTING EQUIPMENT, EARLY VOTING BY MAIL AND IN PERSON, ELECTION DAY POLLING PLACES AND YOUR RUNOFF ELECTION DATE.
I DID WANT TO MENTION THAT RUNOFF DATES NOW ARE DICTATED BY THE TEXAS SECRETARY OF STATE'S OFFICE ELECTION DIVISION.
THOSE USED TO VARY BETWEEN CITIES AND JURISDICTIONS AND LEGISLATIVE CHANGES MADE THAT THAT THE SOS TELLS US WHEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE OUR ELECTION RUNOFF DATE.
WHICH IS GOOD BECAUSE EVERYBODY DOES IT ON THE SAME DAY.
WE'RE NOT WORRIED ABOUT DIFFERENT DATES.
WHAT WE'VE DECIDED IS THE POLLING LOCATION WILL BE THE BURLESON SUB-COURTHOUSE AT 247 ELK DRIVE, ROOM 212 TO BE SPECIFIC. THAT'S UPSTAIRS.
THERE ARE ELEVATORS, SO IT IS ACCESSIBLE.
THIS IS THE LOCATION THAT JOHNSON COUNTY DOES USE FOR THEIR OWN ELECTIONS.
WE'RE VERY CONFIDENT IN THEIR ADA REQUIREMENTS THAT THEY MEET.
EARLY VOTING IN PERSON STARTS ON MONDAY, APRIL 20TH TO FRIDAY, THE 24TH FROM 8:00-5:00, SATURDAY, APRIL 25TH FROM 9:00-3:00 AND THEN ON MONDAY,
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IT'S GOING TO BE MONDAY THE 27TH, ON TUESDAY, THE 28TH AND THAT'S GOING TO BE 8:00-5:00.ON ELECTION DAY, IT WILL BE IN THE SAME LOCATION.
WE'RE NOT CHANGING ANYTHING THERE, EXCEPT FOR THE FACT THAT IT'LL BE SATURDAY, MAY 2ND AND THE HOURS ARE 7:00 AM TO 7:00 PM.
IF YOU HAVE A BALLOT BY MAIL THAT YOU WOULD LIKE, THE ADDRESS IS RIGHT UP THERE.
YOU'LL MAIL THE APPLICATION HERE TO 141 WEST RENFRO.
HOWEVER, I DO WANT TO SAY THAT IT DOES NOT STOP.
IF YOU SEND IT ANYWHERE ELSE IN TEXAS, IF THEY SEND IT TO BURLESON COUNTY INSTEAD OF CITY OF BURLESON, THAT'S OKAY.
WE ALL HAVE A BIG COOPERATION.
THE COUNTIES COORDINATE ALL OF US ON THAT.
IF YOU SEND IT TO TARRANT COUNTY AND YOU'RE JOHNSON COUNTY, DOESN'T MATTER.
IT'S SILL GOING TO GET TO THE RIGHT LOCATION.
I DON'T WANT TO DISCOURAGE ANYBODY NOT TO DO AN APPLICATION FOR BALLOT BY MAIL IF THEY QUALIFY.
THE RUNOFF DATE, AS I SAID BEFORE, IS ESTABLISHED BY THE SECRETARY OF STATE AND THAT WILL ACTUALLY BE JUNE 13TH.
I SAID 2024. THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE 2026.
I THOUGHT I CUT ALL THE TYPOS.
WITH EARLY VOTING, STARTING JUNE 1ST TO JUNE 9TH.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS OR WOULD THERE, IS ANYTHING ELSE THAT THE COUNCIL WOULD LIKE ME TO MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT FOR WHILE I HAVE THIS ITEM BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION FOR ANYBODY WATCHING?
>> IF YOU COULD HAVE A MOTION ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE?
>> I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE A RESOLUTION ORDERING THE MAY 2ND GENERAL ELECTION, ELECTING THE MAYOR, PLACE 2, PLACE 4 AND PLACE 6.
>> I HAVE A MOTION BY VICTORIA AND A SECOND BY ALEXA. PLEASE VOTE.
>> I'M SORRY. I FORGOT I DO THAT PART OF THE MEETING, TIM.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
WE'LL GO ON TO THE NEXT ITEM. YOU CAN PUT IT OUT THERE.
[7.C. Consider and take possible action on a Joint Election Resolution with the Burleson Independent School District for the May 2, 2026 General Election. (Staff Contact: Amanda Campos, City Secretary)]
THIS IS THE JOINT ELECTION WITH BISD, THE BURLESON INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT.A JOINT ELECTION WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT THAT ALLOWS US TO HOLD THEIR ELECTION.
IT'S ON THE SAME DAY, WHICH ALLOWS US TO DO THAT.
BELIEVE ME, THEY CONSTANTLY ARE ASKING ME EVERY YEAR WHEN THEY'RE HOLDING ELECTIONS, CAN YOU RUN OUR ELECTION? THEY'RE HAPPY TO KNOW THIS YEAR WILL BE A JOINT ELECTION, TOO.
IT'S ALSO GOOD FOR THE CITIZENS WHO ARE IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT THERE.
WE'VE GOT OBLIGATIONS ARE STILL RETAINED BY EACH ENTITY FOR THEIR NOTICE REQUIREMENTS.
WE WON'T BE DOING THEIR NOTICES, THEIR LEGAL REQUIREMENT, NOTICES THAT THEY HAVE TO DO.
THERE ARE CERTAIN PUBLICATIONS THAT WE HAVE TO DO.
HOWEVER, I WOULD BE THEIR EARLY VOTING CLERK SO BALLOTS BY MAIL DO FALL TO THE CITY AND THEIR RESPONSIBILITY.
JUST TO BE CLEAR, WE HAVE THIS FULLY BUDGETED AND SO THIS IS ONLY A SAVINGS FOR US IF WE HOLD THE ELECTION.
IF THEY HAPPEN TO CANCEL THEIR ELECTION, THEN WE WOULD STILL MAINTAIN OUR ELECTION AND MAINTAIN THE FULL COST.
HOWEVER, IF WE CANCEL OUR ELECTION, LET'S JUST PUT THAT OUT THERE, MANIFEST THAT.
IF WE CANCEL OUR ELECTION, THEN THEY WOULD HAVE TO CONDUCT THEIR OWN ELECTION AND IN THAT WAY, THEY ARE ALLOWED TO DO THAT.
I'VE SEEN SOME ENTITIES SCRAMBLE AND TRY TO DO IT TOGETHER WITH ANOTHER SCHOOL DISTRICT THAT'S HAVING TO DO THE SAME THING, SO WE'LL SEE WHAT THEY DO.
WE WOULD OBVIOUSLY ALLOW THEM TO USE OUR RESOURCES, OUR VOTING MACHINES SO THAT WAY THEY WOULDN'T HAVE THAT ADDED COST.
WE SHARE POLLING LOCATIONS, WE SHARE ELECTION WORKERS, WE SHARE EQUIPMENT, EARLY VOTING CLERKS AND THE SAME HOURS.
THOSE ARE OUR SHARED RESOURCES.
OUR SHARED RESOURCES AGAIN, ARE GOING TO BE THE SAME POLLING PLACE WITH THE EXACT SAME HOURS, 247 ELK DRIVE, ROOM 212.
OUR PRESIDING JUDGE AND ALTERNATE JUDGE ARE ALL THERE AND THEY'RE ALL APPOINTED.
THE EQUIPMENT IS STILL THE SAME THAT WE'VE USED BEFORE.
WE'RE NOT CHANGING ANY OF THAT AND I'M STILL THE EARLY VOTING CLERK.
WE PRINTED THIS OUT AGAIN, JUST EVERYBODY.
JUST SO YOU KNOW, WE ARE WORKING WITH OUR COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT, WHO WILL START PUTTING OUT NOTICES OF EARLY VOTING TIMES AND WHEN THEY ARE.
I WILL TAKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TELL EVERYBODY, WE'LL START PUSHING THIS OUT TOO IS THAT I WILL, FOR THE FIRST TIME THIS YEAR, CONDUCT TWO ZOOM INFORMATIONAL CLASSES.
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ANYBODY WHO'S INTERESTED IN RUNNING FOR CITY COUNCIL OR JUST WANT TO KNOW HOW OUR PROCESS IS, I'LL BE ON ZOOM TWO DAYS, ONE DAY IN JANUARY AND ONE DAY IN FEBRUARY AT NIGHT, OF COURSE, PEOPLE CAN ATTEND.ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THIS ONE?
>> ANYONE? IS THERE A MOTION? DO WE NEED TWO DIFFERENT VOTES?
>> YOU WILL NEED A MOTION ON THIS ONE.
JUST ON THIS ONE AND THEN WE'VE GOT ONE MORE YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO VOTE ON. JUST ONE VOTE ON THIS.
>> I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AN ACTION ON A JOINT ELECTION RESOLUTION WITH THE BURLESON INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT FOR THE MAY 2ND, 2026 GENERAL ELECTION.
>> I HAVE A MOTION BY LARRY AND A SECOND BY ALEXA, PLEASE VOTE. PAGE IS UNANIMOUS.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
THAT BRINGS US TO OUR NEXT ITEM,
[7.D. Consider and take possible action on an interlocal agreement with Johnson County for the use of the Johnson County Sub-Courthouse located at 247 Elk Dr, Room 212, for the May 2, 2026 General Election, as the polling location. (Staff Contact: Amanda Campos, City Secretary) ]
WHICH IS AN INTER-LOCAL AGREEMENT WITH JOHNSON COUNTY FOR THEIR POLLING LOCATION.NOW THAT WE'VE NAMED IT, NOW WE HAVE TO AGREE TO THEIR PARAMETERS HERE.
THE POLLING PLACE WILL STILL BE THE SAME.
THEY'VE AGREED TO THE HOURS THAT WE'VE ASKED FOR.
THE EARLY VOTING STARTS ON APRIL 20TH ON ELECTION DAY AND THEY HAVE ALSO AGREED TO OUR RUNOFF DATE, SO THEY'RE BOOKING THE WHOLE THING FOR US.
THEY WILL PROVIDE ANY AND ALL SECURITY AT THAT LOCATION, SO IT WILL NOT BE OUR OWN POLICE FORCE BECAUSE THAT IS A COUNTY BUILDING.
THE CONSTABLES WILL BE PROVIDING THAT FOR US, WHICH THEY HAVE IN THE PAST, VERY NICELY.
THE ONLY THING WE WILL USE OUR OWN FORCE FOR IS TRANSPORTATION OF BALLOTS.
THEY'LL ESCORT THE BALLOTS FROM THE JOHNSON COUNTY SUB COURTHOUSE TO HERE TO YOUR CENTRAL COUNTING STATION AND THEY WILL STAY WITH THE BALLOTS UNTIL THE VERY END.
ARE IN A LOCAL AGREEMENT, AS YOU SEE THERE IS IN USE.
THEY'RE GOING TO GIVE IT TO US FROM THE 17TH OF APRIL TILL JUNE 13, THAT CLEARS UP THE RUNOFF IF THERE'S A RUNOFF.
THEY ARE GOING TO CHARGE US $10 FOR THE FACILITY, SO I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY IS GOING TO PITCH IN FOR THAT ONE.
I HAVE TO GET THAT CLEARED FROM FINANCE.
WE'LL PAY THE JOHNSON COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO HAVE A PRESENCE.
IT'S THE CONSTABLES THAT ARE GOING TO BE THERE, SO WE CLARIFIED THAT.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THIS ONE?
>> ANYBODY? IS THERE A MOTION ON 7D? I MOVE TO APPROVE THE INTER-LOCAL AGREEMENT WITH JOHNSON COUNTY FOR USE OF THE SUB COURTHOUSE FOR MAY 2ND, 2026 ELECTION.
>> HAVE A MOTION BY ADAM AND SECOND BY PHIL.
PLEASE VOTE. PASS IS, UNANIMOUS.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
THAT BRINGS US TO SECTION 8, REPORTS AND PRESENTATION.
[8.A. Receive a report, hold a discussion, and provide staff direction on an overview of the 2025 Mosquito Season. (Staff Contact: Errick Thompson, Director of Public Works)]
SORRY, MR. THOMPSON, I DID. I'M GOING TO MESS IT UP THERE.>> EARLIER THAN I THOUGHT. GOOD EVENING AND HAVE A NEW YEAR TO COUNCIL.
>> EIGHT A IS TO RECEIVE A REPORT, HOLD A DISCUSSION AND PROVIDE STAFF DIRECTION ON AN OVERVIEW OF THE 2025 MOSQUITO SEASON.
STAFF PRESENTER IS ERIC THOMPSON, DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS.
THE PLAN WAS ACTUALLY TO HAVE KRISTIN TANS PRESENT THIS INFORMATION TONIGHT.
THOSE OF YOU ON THE COMMUNITY SERVICES COMMITTEE HEARD HER PRESENTATION NOVEMBER, I THINK, [LAUGHTER] TIME FLIES.
BUT SHE'S THE FORCE BEHIND THIS ENTIRE PROGRAM, SO I REALLY WANTED TO LET HER STAND BEFORE YOU AND DELIVER ALL OF THIS INFORMATION.
I WAS REALLY JUST GOING TO INTRODUCE HER AND LEAVE IT IN HER CAPABLE HANDS, BUT SHE'S A LITTLE UNDER THE WEATHER THIS EVENING SO WE GET TO SEE HOW I PRONOUNCE SOME OF THESE SCIENTIFIC MOSQUITO NAMES.
[LAUGHTER] SO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF AN OUTLINE HERE.
WE'LL TALK ABOUT WHAT WE MEAN BY THE INTEGRATED MOSQUITO MANAGEMENT PROGRAM.
HOW DID OUR LAST SEASON UNFOLD FOR US? TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT RESISTANCE TESTING.
THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF NEWS OR A LITTLE BIT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT IN THE REGION, NOT NECESSARILY IN BURLESON, BUT IN THE REGION THIS PAST SEASON, SO WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT.
GIVE YOU A LITTLE RECAP OF WHAT WE SPENT, WHAT WE TYPICALLY SPENT AND THEN TALK ABOUT SOME POTENTIAL ADJUSTMENTS TO THE PROGRAM FOR NEXT YEAR.
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SO THIS SLIDE GIVES YOU THE FIVE MAJOR COMPONENTS OF THE INTEGRATED PROGRAM, WE CALL IT.THE NEXT SEVERAL SLIDES, WE'LL GO THROUGH EACH OF THESE FIVE IN A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL.
BUT HOPEFULLY, I DON'T PUT ANYONE TO SLEEP.
THE FIRST PHASE IS PUBLIC EDUCATION.
WE ALWAYS WANT TO START WITH SHARING INFORMATION WITH THE PUBLIC TO INFORM THE PUBLIC OF WAYS THAT THEY CAN HELP.
HERE ARE JUST A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES OF SOME OF THE EDUCATIONAL MATERIAL THAT'S PRODUCED IN COLLABORATION WITH THE CITY'S COMMUNICATIONS TEAM AND THEN THEY ALSO HELP US PUSH THIS INFORMATION OUT.
SOCIAL MEDIA AND FLYERS AND INCLUDED IN NEWSLETTERS FROM TIME TO TIME.
THAT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT PIECE OF THE FIVE PART PROGRAM.
THE NEXT WOULD BE SOURCE REMOVAL.
HERE WE ENJOY SIGNIFICANT COLLABORATION BETWEEN PUBLIC WORKS AND PARKS AND RECREATION AND SOMETIMES PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS TO TRY AND IDENTIFY AND THEN REMOVE OPPORTUNITIES FOR STANDING WATER.
SOME OF YOU WELL, MOST OF YOU LIKELY RECALL THAT WE TALKED ABOUT SIMILAR THINGS WITH THE STORM WATER UTILITY FEE DISCUSSION.
THIS COULD BE ONE OF THOSE ELIGIBLE ACTIVITIES THAT SUCH A PROGRAM COULD POTENTIALLY FUND IN THE FUTURE.
THE THIRD COMPONENT IS LARVA TREATMENT.
FROM TIME TO TIME, KRISTIN PRIMARILY IS OUT, SCOUTING FOR THESE STANDING AREAS OF STANDING WATER AND THEN SHE'S GOT DUNKS OR OTHER MATERIAL THAT SHE CAN PLACE IN THAT WATER TO HELP CONTROL MOSQUITOES FROM BREEDING IN THAT STANDING WATER.
>> AND THEN PROBABLY ONE OF HER MORE EXCITING PARTS OF THE PROGRAM IS THE MOSQUITO MONITORING.
DURING THE SEASON, ROUGHLY APRIL THROUGH OCTOBER EVERY YEAR, SHE'S SETTING TRAPS EVERY WEEK ALL ACROSS THE CITY.
TYPICALLY IN YOUR FRIDAY REPORT, IF WE'VE GOT A POSITIVE RESULT BACK FROM THE LAB, YOU GET ALL KINDS OF INFORMATION IN THAT WEEKLY NEWSLETTER, E NEWSLETTER, TELLING YOU WHERE IT IS, AND IT ALL TIES BACK TO THESE INDIVIDUAL TRAPS.
I THINK THE PICTURE ON THE LEFT SHOWS A LITTLE OVER 300 MOSQUITOES IN THAT ONE SAMPLE.
AGAIN, ALL THE SAMPLES ARE SET OUT BY KRISTIN.
THEY GO OFF TO THE LAB AT TARRANT COUNTY.
TARRANT COUNTY ACTUALLY ANALYZES THE SAMPLES AND IF THEY FIND POSITIVE OR MOSQUITOES THAT TEST POSITIVE FOR, WEST NILE OR ST. LOUIS ENCEPHALITIS, THEN THERE'S A WHOLE WHOLE OTHER PROTOCOL THAT WE GO THROUGH TO GET SPRAYING SET UP TO GET SIGNS POSTED TO GET A VENDOR THAT DOES OUR SPRAYING SETUP.
IT'S A FAIRLY WELL OIL MACHINE THAT SHE MAKES LOOK A LOT EASIER THAN I THINK IT ACTUALLY IS.
WE REALLY APPRECIATE ALL OF HER EFFORTS.
THEN THE FIFTH PHASE OR FIFTH COMPONENT WOULD BE THE STRATEGIC FOGGING.
WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE SOME CONCERNS IN PARTS OF THE COMMUNITY ABOUT SPRAYING, SO WE TRY TO REALLY MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING THIS ON A CONSISTENT OR A STRATEGIC BASIS.
WE'RE ONLY TESTING IN THOSE AREAS THAT HAVE A POSITIVE SAMPLE.
PART OF THAT IS ALSO SO THAT WE DON'T HELP THE MOSQUITOES BECOME RESISTANT TO THE ACTIVE INGREDIENT IN THE SPRAY THAT WE USE.
THERE'S ONLY A SET NUMBER OF THOSE CHEMICALS AVAILABLE, SO WE DON'T WANT TO WEAR ONE OUT BECAUSE THAT JUST MEANS WE'LL HAVE REALLY ONLY ONE OPTION THAT HAS SOME NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCES THAT COME ALONG WITH IT.
WE'D LIKE TO STAY WITH WHAT WE USE NOW AS LONG AS POSSIBLE.
STRATEGIC FOGGING HELPS US DO THAT.
IT USUALLY HAPPENS ON TWO CONSECUTIVE NIGHTS, BETWEEN 9:00 PM AND 5:00 AM.
THE PICTURE ON THE RIGHT IS JUST AN EXAMPLE OF A TRUCK DRIVING THROUGH IN THAT LITTLE MIST.
IT'S NOT SMOKE, BUT IT'S THE ACTUAL FOGGING OF THE SPRAY.
NEXT FEW SLIDES, WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW THE 2025 SEASON WRAPPED UP DATA WISE.
BUSY GRAPH THERE TO THE KIND OF TOP OF THE SCREEN.
THE BRIGHTER BLUE LINE WOULD BE REPRESENT LAST YEAR, 2025 SEASON.
YOU SEE IT STARTS ON THE LEFT AT APRIL AND GOES THROUGH THE END OF OCTOBER AND THEN THE BLACK LINE WOULD REPRESENT THE FIVE YEAR AVERAGE.
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YOU CAN SEE WE HAD A BIT OF A PEAK IN THE MID JUNE TIME FRAME.THAT WAS OUR PEAK FOR LAST SUMMER.
THE FIVE YEAR AVERAGE HAS A LARGER PEAK, BUT IT'S A LITTLE BIT LATER IN JUNE.
YOU COULD PROBABLY STUDY THIS GRAPH FOR 20, 30 MINUTES AND COME UP WITH A FEW OTHER THINGS THAT MIGHT SEEM SIGNIFICANT OR RELEVANT, BUT, FOR THE MOST PART, WE HAD A RELATIVELY AVERAGE YEAR FOR 2025.
THREE PICTURES ON THE BOTTOM ARE THREE SPECIAL TYPES OF MOSQUITOES.
IT'S REALLY THE ONE ON THE LEFT, IF I HAVE THIS RIGHT THAT WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT.
THE QLX. THAT'S THE ONE THAT IS TYPICALLY CARRYING THE VIRUSES THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR OR THAT WE DON'T WANT TO SEE.
NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT THE GRAPH SHOWS YOU STATEWIDE DATA FOR WEST NILE POSITIVES, AND IT'S LOOKING AT THE LAST THREE YEARS.
YOU PROBABLY RECALL THAT 2024 WAS JUST A VERY OUTRAGEOUS YEAR FOR WEST NILE VIRUS, STATEWIDE.
THE TALLEST GRAPH LINE IS THE 2024 YEAR.
YOU CAN SEE WE WERE MUCH LOWER IN 2025 THAN THE OBSCENE NUMBERS IN 2024.
THEN IF YOU WENT BACK ANOTHER YEAR TO 2023, IT'S IN THAT LIGHTER BLACK LINE, THAT'S PROBABLY A LITTLE LESS THAN WE EVEN SAW IN 2025.
WE ALSO WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT THE COUNTY LOOKED LIKE TARRANT COUNTY, THAT IS VERSUS THE CITY OF BURLESON FOR EACH OF THOSE THREE YEARS.
ELEVEN POSITIVES IN BURLESON IN 2023 COMPARED TO 244 ACROSS ALL OF TARRANT COUNTY THAT YEAR.
THE COUNTY HAD NINE HUMAN CASES THAT YEAR.
BURLESON HAD NONE, 2024 AGAIN, THAT WAS THE VERY ACTIVE YEAR.
OVER 800 POSITIVES FROM TRAPS IN THE COUNTY AND 81, SO ABOUT 10% OF THOSE IN BURLESON COUNTY HAD 45 HUMAN CASES THAT YEAR, AND BURLESON ACTUALLY HAD ONE.
IN 2025 CLOSER TO A NORMAL YEAR, IF THERE IS SUCH A THING, 330 POSITIVE TRAPS IN THE COUNTY AND 27, SO A LITTLE LESS THAN 10% IN THE CITY OF BURLESON, 12 HUMAN CASES FOR THE COUNTY, BUT NONE IN THE CITY.
WE JUST WANTED TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF A SNAPSHOT OF HOW LAST WEEK OR LAST WEEK, LAST YEAR, [LAUGHTER] COMPARED TO THE PREVIOUS FEW YEARS.
THIS IS ACTUALLY IF COUNCIL IS INTERESTED IN IT, SOMETHING WE WOULD PLAN TO PRESENT ANNUALLY.
A LITTLE MORE ABOUT ENCEPHALITIS.
WE HAD ONE POSITIVE ENCEPHALITIS CASE FOR ST. LOUIS ENCEPHALITIS LATE IN THE SEASON.
THAT WAS IN SEPTEMBER OF 2025.
THERE'S A PROTOCOL FOR THAT AS WELL.
WE GET A POSITIVE FOR THAT AND WE SET SUPPLEMENTAL TRAPS.
THEY GET COLLECTED, SENT TO THE LAB FOR RESULTS.
WE WERE HAPPY TO SEE THAT ALL THE SUPPLEMENTAL TRAPS TESTED NEGATIVE.
WE FELT LIKE ALL THE- LIKE WE WERE IN DECENT SHAPE THERE.
STATE WIDE, THERE'S THIS EASTERN EQUINE ENCEPHALITIS THAT CAN BE AN ISSUE.
THERE WAS ONLY ONE CASE OF THAT IN THE STATE IN '25, AND THAT WAS DOWN AROUND THE BEAUMONT AREA.
IN THE SPRING OR EARLY SPRING, TARRANT COUNTY REPORTED SOME SUSPECTED RESISTANCE TO THE PERMETHRIN.
THAT'S THE ACTIVE OR THE MAIN CHEMICAL IN THE SPRAY.
THEY SUSPECTED THAT MOSQUITOES MAY BE BECOMING RESISTANT TO IT IN PORTIONS OF THE UNINCORPORATED COUNTY.
BURLESON STAFF, WHICH MEANS KRISTIN MONITORED THAT HER PRE AND POST FOGGING NUMBERS WHEN A ZONE WAS TREATED TO EVALUATE HOW EFFECTIVE THE SPRING WAS,
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AND WE WERE STILL SEEING GREAT GREAT RESULTS OF THAT.YOU'D HAVE A SAMPLE GET COLLECTED, AND THE LAB TELLS US HOW MANY OR SHE TELLS US HOW MANY MOSQUITOES ARE IN THE SAMPLE MALE VERSUS FEMALE OF THE THREE DIFFERENT TYPES OF SPECIES.
THEN AFTER SPRAYING, IF WE GO BACK AND SAMPLE THAT SAME AREA, SHE HAD DATA THAT WOULD SHOW THAT WE WOULD HAVE, MUCH LOWER NUMBERS SHOWING THAT THE CHEMICAL WAS STILL BEING EFFECTIVE.
BUT WE DIDN'T WANT TO JUST STOP THERE.
WE WENT ANOTHER STEP OR MORE STEPS FURTHER TO COLLECT ADDITIONAL SAMPLES TO SEND THEM TO A SPECIAL STATE LAB FOR RESISTANCE TESTING, AND SPECIAL TESTING.
THEY SHOWED GOOD RESULTS FOR US THAT THE PER ME THE RING WAS STILL VERY EFFECTIVE WITHIN THE BURLESON MOSQUITO POPULATION.
THAT WAS GOOD NEWS. LATER, THE COUNTY ANNOUNCED THAT THEY WOULD ONLY CONDUCT FOGGING AFTER THEY HAVE THREE WEEKS OF CONSECUTIVE POSITIVE RESULTS AT A SINGLE TRAP SITE.
THAT BASICALLY ALLOWS THEM TIME TO GO OUT AND DO MORE OF THE THINGS THAT KRISTIN ALREADY DOES NOW.
THEY'RE ON A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT PROGRAM, AND FOR THEIR OWN REASONS.
BUT WE FEEL PRETTY GOOD ABOUT WHERE WE ARE.
I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW MUCH WE SPEND.
THIS GIVES YOU FIVE YEAR HISTORY OF FOGGING AND LARVA SIDE EXPENSES.
AS YOU CAN SEE, BACK IN '21, WE SPENT ABOUT 62,000.
THAT WAS A PRETTY ACTIVE YEAR.
'24 AGAIN, THAT WAS THE VERY ACTIVE YEAR, 83,000 PLUS.
THEN THIS PAST YEAR WE SPENT 32,000.
LOOKING AHEAD AT SOME POTENTIAL ADJUSTMENTS FOR NEXT YEAR.
THERE ARE THREE DIFFERENT OPTIONS PRESENTED HERE.
THE FIRST IS JUST TO CONTINUE WITH THE PROGRAM WE HAVE IN PLACE NOW.
BASICALLY, EVERY TIME WE HAVE A POSITIVE RESULT FOR WEST NILE OR ST. LOUIS ENCEPHALITIS, WE WOULD FOG THAT ZONE.
IN EACH OF THESE IN ORDER TO TRY TO COMPARE, WE USE THE 2025 DATA.
HOW MANY POSITIVES FOR EACH ZONE THAT WE HAVE? BASED ON OUR CURRENT PROCEDURE, THAT MEANS THAT WE WOULD, WE FOG 24 ZONES IN '25.
FOR '26, WE WOULD PROBABLY FALL SOMEWHERE AROUND '24, '25 ZONES.
ANOTHER OPTION MIGHT BE THAT WE CREATE THIS PHASE RESPONSE PLAN.
IT'S INTENDED TO BE RISK BASED.
WE COULD ONLY SPRAY IF WE HAD MORE THAN 50 OF THESE THE CERTAIN FEMALE MOSQUITO TYPE.
THEN THE HIGHER RISK LEVEL MIGHT BE, IF WE BASED IT ON 50 NOW, THAT MEANS THAT WE PROBABLY WOULD HAVE ONLY SPRAYED 20 ZONES INSTEAD OF 24.
NOT A HUGE DIFFERENCE IN COST.
I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY SOMEWHERE AROUND $6,000 OR ABOUT $4,000.
OR ANOTHER THIRD OPTION WOULD BE TO MOVE IN THE DIRECTION THAT THE COUNTY IS MOVING, AND THAT'S WAIT UNTIL WE HAVE THREE WEEKS OF CONSECUTIVE POSITIVE RESULTS IN A SINGLE ZONE.
IF WE USE THAT APPROACH, WE WOULD NOT HAVE FOGGED ANYWHERE IN 2025.
THOSE ARE THE THREE SCENARIOS WE'VE PRESENTED FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION TO SEE IF YOU, WOULD CARE TO DIRECT US TO MOVE IN EITHER OF THOSE THREE DIRECTIONS.
BUT AGAIN, IT'S A RELATIVELY SMALL COST DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT WE DO NOW, WHICH IS SPRAY EACH ZONE FOR EVERY POSITIVE VERSUS THE RISK BASE, LOOKING FOR 50 OF THE CERTAIN MOSQUITO IN THE TRAP VERSUS MOVING TO THE COUNTY, THE DIRECTION THE COUNTY IS MOVING, AND THAT'S WAIT FOR THREE WEEKS IN A ROW.
I'LL MENTION AGAIN, WE HAVE THE ONE HUMAN WEST NILE CASE IN 2024, NONE IN 25, WE'D LIKE TO KEEP THAT ZERO NUMBER.
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FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE, WE FEEL LIKE THE STATUS QUO GIVES US THE BEST CHANCE OF KEEPING THE HUMAN CASES AT ZERO.THERE ARE SOME OTHER IDEAS WE COULD TALK ABOUT.
ANOTHER ONE TOPIC THAT'S BEEN BROUGHT UP HAS BEEN BAT HOUSES OR BAT BOXES.
BUT THEY HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF CHALLENGES.
THEY'RE NOT A HUGE COMPONENT OF MOSQUITOES DIET.
THEY REQUIRE SOME MAINTENANCE; CLEANING AND MONITORING.
AT LEAST A COUPLE OF CITIES IN THE AREA HAVE INSTALLED SOME OF THESE OVER THE LAST DECADE, AND NEITHER CITY HAS REPORTED ANY INHABITANTS IN THEIR BOXES TO DATE.
THAT'S NOT TO SAY IT'S A BAD IDEA.
I JUST DON'T WANT TO OVERESTIMATE THE BENEFITS THAT WE MIGHT GET FROM IT WHEN IT COMES TO MOSQUITO POPULATION.
SOME SITE CONSIDERATIONS ABOUT WHERE YOU WANT TO PUT THOSE, MOUNT THEM AT LEAST 15 FEET HIGH.
IDENTIFIED A COUPLE OF LOCATIONS WHERE THEY MIGHT BE SOMEWHAT EFFECTIVE, REALLY THINK FLOOD ZONE OR FLOODPLAIN, HEAVILY VEGETATED AREAS.
COYOTE LOOP TRAIL, THE CHISENHALL BIKE TRAIL, AT THE BACK LOOP OF THAT MIGHT BE POTENTIAL AREAS TO CONSIDER.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE PAINTED AND SEALED WITH NON TOXIC PAINTS, [NOISE] BE NICE.
WE SHOULD INSPECT THEM ANNUALLY.
AGAIN, COSTS 400-500 PER BOX PLUS MOUNTING.
YOU WOULD WANT TO INSTALL THOSE IN THE WINTER SO THAT YOU COULD MONITOR FOR ACTIVITY IN THE SPRING.
ALSO, TALKING TO TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE.
THEY ACTUALLY RECOMMEND THAT WE CONSIDER HABITAT ENHANCEMENT, SO PLANTING SPECIFIC PLANTS THAT MIGHT HELP WITH THE MOSQUITO POPULATION.
A LITTLE MORE COSTLY FOR THE LANDSCAPING.
BUT THEN THAT STILL SPRING INSTALLATION SO THAT YOU'VE GOT THE NATIVE PLANTS OR THE PLANTS THAT YOU NEED IN THE SUMMER DURING THE MOSQUITO SEASON.
AS I MENTIONED, WE WENT TO COMMUNITY SERVICE COMMITTEE BACK IN NOVEMBER AND THAT COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED THAT THE FULL CITY COUNCIL SUPPORT CONTINUING WITH THE CURRENT PROCEDURES AND NOTED THAT THERE'S A PRETTY SMALL COST DIFFERENCE, AND IT WOULDN'T BE WORTH THE ADDITIONAL PUBLIC HEALTH RISK.
AS IT RELATES TO THE BAT HOUSES OR BOXES.
I THINK THERE WAS A LOT OF ENERGY AROUND THE IDEA OF ENGAGING WITH SCOUTING OR OTHER GROUPS THAT COULD BUILD THESE AS PROJECTS.
THEN THEY ALSO SUPPORTED THE IDEA OF TRYING TO FOCUS THOSE INSULATIONS ALONG AREAS LIKE THE COYOTE LOOP TRAIL AND OTHER FLOODPLAIN AREAS.
WITH THAT, I'M NOT KRISTEN TANS, BUT I'LL ATTEMPT TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
>> I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE BAD HOUSES.
I'VE HEARD GOOD THINGS ABOUT THEM, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WOULD SEE HOW THEY'RE WORKING.
DOES THE PARKS EVER HAVE COMPLAINTS ABOUT MOSQUITOES AT THE PARKS OR IS PARKS A PROBLEM WITH MOSQUITOES?
>> ANYWHERE WE HAVE OPEN BODIES OF WATER, YOU'LL HAVE ISSUES WITH MOSQUITOES.
WE DON'T ACTUALLY REALLY GET ANY SPECIFIC REQUESTS FOR THAT ANTS ARE MORE PREVALENT OF AN ISSUE.
EVERY TIME WE GET A RAIN AND THE ANTS POP UP, THAT'S A CONCERN THAT WE TRY TO TACKLE MORE PREVALENTLY.
THAT BEING SAID, BAT BOXES ARE BOTH EDUCATIONAL AND COULD SERVE SOME PURPOSE.
IT'S SOMETHING WE'D LOVE TO EXPLORE IF THAT'S COUNCIL'S DESIRE.
MAYBE I DON'T KNOW ONE OF THE PARKS, I WOULD THINK. YOU'D BE GOOD WITH IT?
>> WHAT DO YOU THINK, ERIC? SORRY YOU GOT THROWN INTO THIS.
>> KRISTEN DID AN AWESOME JOB TO OUR COMMUNITY SERVICES COMMITTEE.
WE ARE TRULY BLESSED TO HAVE KRISTEN WORKING IN THIS CITY.
SHE WAS REALLY AND I PERSONALLY THINK THE BAT BOXES ARE SOMETHING VERY NEAT.
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THEY'RE TWOFOLD, LIKE JEN SAID.PLUS, IF WE HAVE BATS, THEY'RE EATING THE BUGS.
IT MAY NOT ONLY BE MOSQUITOES, BUT THEY'RE EATING BUGS, AND WHO DOESN'T WANT LESS BUGS.
I THINK THEY'RE REALLY NEAT. IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD EXPLORE.
PARTICULARLY, WE HAD A GREAT CONVERSATION ABOUT ENGAGING WITH SCOUTING AND OTHER GROUPS.
OUR COMMUNITY IS JUST SO OUTGOING AND ALWAYS WILLING.
THEY'RE LOOKING FOR THINGS TO BUILD AND BE INVOLVED AND SUPPORT OUR COMMUNITY IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.
THERE'S A GENTLEMAN RIGHT DOWN THIS ROAD WHO HAS EXPERIENCED THAT HIMSELF.
HE AND HIS WIFE SAW A NEED AND FILLED A NEED BY BUILDING BLESSING BOXES.
I KNOW WE'VE HAD SEVERAL THINGS THROUGHOUT THE CITY THAT THE BOY SCOUTS OR A SCOUT LOCALS HAS TAKEN ON AS A PROJECT, I THINK THIS IS A TREMENDOUS FIT FOR THAT.
WE HAVE WILLING BODIES, AND I THINK IT WOULD BE SO COOL TO SEE THEM.
MAYOR, WE TALKED ABOUT THE COYOTE LOOP TRAIL WOULD BE AN AWESOME SPOT.
I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT ANYONE BIKING BACK ON OUR TRAILS OR WALKING DURING THE SUMMER GET EATEN ALIVE.
BUT IF WE SOMEHOW COULD RECRUIT A BAT OR TWO TO COME LIVE HERE, AND HERE'S YOUR MILL HAVEN.
I THINK IT WOULD BE FANTASTIC.
I THINK IT'S A REALLY COOL IDEA.
AT LEAST WE CAN EXPLORE IT, AND IF WE COULD PARTICULARLY GET IT DONATED BY SOMEONE, AND I BET WE CAN.
>> THE ONLY OTHER THING I HEARD ABOUT THESE WAS THE FACT THAT THE HAWKS, YOU DON'T BUILD THEM CLOSE TO A GROUP OF TREES BECAUSE THE BATS ARE AN EASY TARGET.
I DIDN'T WANT TO SET THE EXPECTATION THAT OUR MOSQUITO POPULATION IS GOING TO JUST SIGNIFICANTLY DROP BECAUSE WE INSTALL A BUNCH OF BAT BOXES BECAUSE THE DATA JUST DOESN'T BEAR THAT OUT.
>> IT'D BE ANOTHER TOOL IN THE TOOLBOX.
>> THE BATS DO EAT OTHER BUGS AS WELL, TICK POPULATION AND THINGS LIKE THAT WHICH WE'RE NOT GOING ON THAT RIGHT NOW, BUT I DO HAVE TO SAY KRISTEN DID A REALLY GOOD JOB ON THIS PRESENTATION THAT KEPT US VERY ENGAGED.
>> I THINK THE BAT BOXES ARE A GREAT WAY AGAIN TO GET SOME MORE COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT WITH SOME OTHER GROUPS AND SO ON.
WE'RE REALLY GOING MORE OF AN ORGANIC WAY OF TRYING TO STAY ON TOP OF OUR MOSQUITOES.
I DON'T THINK WE CAN ELIMINATE THE SPRAYING AND SO ON WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW, BUT I THINK THIS COULD BE SOMETHING TO HELP CURB IT JUST A LITTLE BIT OR WE CAN AT LEAST TEST AND SEE.
>> COMPLIMENT WHAT WE ARE DOING, ADDING ONE MORE TOOL IN OUR TOOL BOX.
IT'S NATURAL. THEY'RE JUST GOING TO BE IN THE BOXES, LIVING THEIR LIVES, AND HOPEFULLY THE HAWKS AREN'T COMING AFTER THEM.
I THINK MAYOR, YOU AND I AND ANOTHER COUNCIL PERSON.
WE HAVE A FRIEND IN COMMON WHO HAS BAT BOXES, AND HE SPOKE HIGHLY OF THEM.
HE DOESN'T KNOW IF THEY'RE EATING MOSQUITOES, BUT HE THINKS HE HAS INHABITANTS, SO I THINK IT'S PRETTY COOL.
>> HE WILL TALK TO YOU ABOUT THAT.
>> IF WE'RE GOING TO OPEN THIS UP AS PROJECTS, I WOULD CONSIDER A STANDARD LIKE MAYBE PUTTING THEM ON METAL POLES INSTEAD OF A WOOD POLE, BUT GET POLE WORK INVOLVED IN THIS AND MAKE SURE IT'S MAINTAINABLE.
LET'S DON'T CREATE ANOTHER PROBLEM FOR US.
BUT I THINK WE OUGHT TO TRY. WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK? YOU GUYS ARE AWFULLY QUIET.
>> THE ONLY COMMENT I'VE GOT, I LIKE THE IDEA OF ENGAGING LETTING SCOUTS OR GROUP DO IT IS JUST FROM GROWING UP IN THE COUNTRY, BATS DO CARRY RABIES.
MAYBE PUT A SIGN BY THE BAT BOX THAT SAYS, DON'T PICK UP DEAD BATS OR SICK BATS BECAUSE KIDS ARE CURIOUS AND SO JUST BE MINDFUL AND LET THEM DO THEIR THING AND LEAVE THEM ALONE.
>> I KNOW WE DO HAVE BATS IN BURLESON.
WHEN I GO FOR A WALK AT NIGHT, AROUND ALL THE STREET LIGHTS THROUGH MY NEIGHBORHOOD, THE MAYOR'S NEIGHBORHOOD, THERE'S BATS FLYING EVERYWHERE.
MY CONCERN IS I HAVE TO BE CAREFUL NOT TO GET BIT ON THE NECK BY ONE.
THAT'S PRETTY SPOOKY WHEN YOU WALK THROUGH THERE, BUT WE DO HAVE BATS, AND THEY COME OUT AT NIGHT, AND I GUESS WE WOULD HAVE TO TURN THE STREET LIGHTS OFF BECAUSE THEY FILL UP AT THE STREET LIGHTS IN THE CITY.
NOW OUT ON THESE TRAILS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, THEY DON'T HAVE STREET LIGHTS.
THAT MIGHT BE THE PERFECT LOCATION FOR THEM.
>> I'M SURE WE CAN WORK WITH OUR ATTORNEY AND GET SOME GREAT LANGUAGE ON A SIGN TO TAKE CARE OF THAT CONCERN.
>> ONLY COMMENT I HAVE IS, I THINK THE WASPS ARE GOING TO LOVE THESE BOXES, AND I DON'T THINK YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THEM ONCE A YEAR AND HEAD THOSE THINGS OFF BECAUSE THEY CAN GET IN THERE IN A MATTER OF DAYS AND MAKE IT UNINHABITABLE FOR BATS.
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>> KRISTEN DID ACTUALLY ADDRESS THAT. SHE TALKED ABOUT IT.
>> SHE COVERED ALL GROUND. SHE WAS PHENOMENAL.
WE HAD A VERY IN DEPTH CONVERSATION, AND IT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING, I THINK, JUST AS ALREADY BEEN MENTIONED, IF WE HAVE SPECS, AND WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR, AND WE LOOK FOR THOSE COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIPS.
BUT WE HAVE A TREMENDOUS STAFF PERSON WHO REALLY KNOWS HER STUFF.
>> MAYOR, COUNCIL, WITH REGARDS TO THE BAT HOUSES, I THINK WE'VE GOT SOME GOOD DIRECTION IN TERMS OF HOW WE MIGHT PILOT THAT, AND WE CAN COME BACK TO COMMUNITY SERVICES AND FULL COUNCIL TO SHARE AT A LATER DATE, WHAT SUCCESS WE'RE SEEING WITH THAT.
ANOTHER BIG COMPONENT OF THIS TOO IS UNDERSTANDING HOW YOU'D LIKE TO HANDLE ABATEMENT IN THE SPRAYING, THE THREE OPTIONS THAT MR. THOMPSON SPOKE TO, SO WE'D LOOK FOR SOME DIRECTION ON THAT.
>> I'M ASSUMING THE SPRAYING IS EFFECTIVE BECAUSE I DON'T SEE ANY DATA, BUT YOU WOULDN'T BE DOING IT IF IT WASN'T WORKING.
IF THE COST DIFFERENCE IS MINIMAL, JUST KEEP DOING WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
>> ZERO IN THE HUMAN CASE COLUMN.
>> IT IS CONCERNING THAT TARRANT COUNTY MAY BE SEEING SOME PYRETHRIN RESISTANCE, BUT IF WE'RE NOT SEEING IT YET, THERE'S NO POINT IN REDUCING IT.
>> WE DON'T WANT TO FOLLOW TARRANT COUNTY BECAUSE THREE CONSECUTIVE MOSQUITOES BECAUSE THEY'RE TRYING TO REDUCE THE RESISTANCE.
I DON'T THINK WE HAVE A RESISTANCE. WE'RE DOING GOOD.
>> OBVIOUSLY, THAT'S A MUCH LARGER AREA, AND THEY WERE PRIMARILY FOCUSED ON THE UNINCORPORATED AREA.
EVEN THOUGH MOST OF BURLESON IS NOT IN TARRANT COUNTY, WE'RE ABLE TO USE THEIR LAB FOR TRAPS FOR THE ENTIRE CITY.
IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A NUANCE TO THAT DATA, BUT STILL WE THINK WE WENT THROUGH PRUDENT STEPS TO GIVE US A BETTER COMFORT LEVEL THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WORKING AND THAT WE DON'T HAVE RESISTANCE.
>> EVERYBODY AGREE, LEAVE IT ALONE?
>> I'M NO EXPERT, BUT ITEM 1, CONTINUE WITH CURRENT PROCEDURES SOUNDS GOOD TO ME.
>> I THINK WE HAVE OUR DIRECTION.
>> EIGHT B, THIS WILL MOVE ON.
>> EIGHT B IS TO RECEIVE A REPORT, HOLD A DISCUSSION,
[8.B. Receive a report, hold a discussion, and provide staff direction on a proposed Neighborhood Empowerment Zone incentive policy. (Staff Contact: Tony D. McIlwain, Development Services Director)]
AND PROVIDE STAFF DIRECTION ON A PROPOSED NEIGHBORHOOD EMPOWERMENT ZONE INCENTIVE POLICY.THE STAFF PRESENTER ON THIS ITEM IS TONY MCILWAIN, DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
>> THANK YOU. ME AND COUNCIL, AS YOU ALL ARE AWARE, WE HAVE BRIEFED YOU MULTIPLE TIMES REGARDING ESTABLISHMENT AND IMPLEMENTATION OF A NEIGHBORHOOD EMPOWERMENT ZONE.
JUST BY WAY OF JUST A RECAP, CHAPTER 378 OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE ALLOWS A MUNICIPALITY, SUCH AS BURLESON TO CREATE A NEIGHBORHOOD EMPOWERMENT ZONE.
WHAT A MUNICIPALITY TERM IS THAT THE CREATION OF THE ZONE WOULD PROMOTE THOSE BULLET POINTS THAT YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN.
BY WAY OF THE POLICY THAT WE'VE PLACED IN YOUR PACKET, THE STAFF IS BRINGING THIS FORWARD BECAUSE BY WAY OF ADOPTING THE NEIGHBORHOOD EMPOWERMENT ZONE POLICY, YOU COULD MOVE FORWARD WITH THE REHABILITATION OF SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, MULTI-FAMILY HOUSING, COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES, AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD EMPOWERMENT ZONE.
THE POLICY WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE ENACTED CITYWIDE WITH YOU COMING IN AT A LATER DATE AND DOING DETERMINED AREAS FOR SPECIFIC NEIGHBORHOOD EMPOWERMENT ZONES.
THE POLICY THAT WE HAVE BEFORE YOU DOES ALLOW YOU TO APPROVE ADDITIONAL TERMS AND INCENTIVES AS YOU SEE FIT AS LONG AS THEY'RE IN ACCORDANCE WITH CHAPTER 378 OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE OR BY COUNCIL RESOLUTION.
WHAT WE'VE PLACED IN YOUR PACKET IS A POLICY THAT HAS A 10 YEAR PERIOD, AND UPON THE END OF THAT 10 YEAR PERIOD, THE LIFE OF THE NEZ CAN BE EXTENDED BY CITY COUNCIL.
COUNCIL, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO STOP ME AS QUESTIONS ARISE.
SOME OF THE PROPOSED INCENTIVES AND BENEFITS THAT WE DISCUSSED WITH YOU PREVIOUSLY INCLUDED DEVELOPMENT FEE WAIVERS AND RELEASE OF LIENS.
I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT FEE WAIVERS AS WELL AS THE RELEASE OF LIENS IN A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL.
STAFF EVALUATED TAX ABATEMENTS AT THE COMMITTEE LEVEL, AND THEN SUBSEQUENT TO THAT AT THE COUNCIL LEVEL.
AT THIS POINT IN TIME, WE THINK IT IS MORE PRUDENT FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH
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THE DEVELOPMENT FEE WAIVERS AND RELEASE OF LIENS.IN THE PACKET THAT YOU HAVE, I WANT TO DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO THE LIEN RELEASE, SPECIFICALLY, THE SECOND SENTENCE, I NOTICE AS A RUN ON SENTENCE, I WANT TO SPEAK INTO THE RECORD THAT WITH THE LIEN RELEASE, THE RELEASE OF SUCH LIENS WOULD ONLY BE ALLOWED IN CONJUNCTION WITH NEW CONSTRUCTION OR RENOVATION OF ELIGIBLE FACILITIES WITHIN THE TARGET AREA.
WHAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR PACKET GOES ON TO SAY ADDITIONAL TEXTS, BUT WE WANT TO REVISE THAT BECAUSE IT WAS CONFUSING.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE CITY MANAGER POINTED OUT IN A PREVIOUS MEETING WITH ME.
IT GAVE CONTRADICTORY INFORMATION REGARDING THE ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA FOR LIEN RELEASE.
ESSENTIALLY, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS A 20% INVESTMENT BASED ON THE VALUATION OF THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT.
THAT'S THE MINIMUM THRESHOLD TO PARTICIPATE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD EMPOWERMENT ZONE.
IF YOU HAVE LIENS ASSOCIATED WITH THE PROPERTY, YOU CAN USE THE LIEN RELEASE IN ADDITION TO THE DEVELOPMENT FEE WAIVER.
I KNOW THERE'S A QUESTION THAT YOU RAISED COUNCILWOMAN BOEDEKER REGARDING PLUMBING.
IF YOU CAN VERBALIZE IT, I CAN ANSWER IT FOR YOU.
>> THAT'S WHAT I WAS QUESTIONING ON HERE WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THESE LIENS.
WE HAVE SEVERAL NEIGHBORHOODS THAT STILL HAVE CAST IRON PLUMBING.
WHEN WE'VE HAD PROGRAMS BEFORE, IT WAS MORE FOR COSMETIC, BRINGING THE HOUSE TO LOOK NICE.
BUT WE HAVE CAST IRON PLUMBING AND SEVERAL NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE DETERIORATING, COULD THIS BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD HELP THEM?
>> IT COULD BUT THE HELP WOULD BE, I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU, IT'LL BE MINIMAL IN NATURE BECAUSE THE THRESHOLD IS FOR YOU TO HAVE ELIGIBLE REHABILITATION.
IF YOU ACHIEVE 20% OF THE VALUATION OF YOUR TAX APPRAISED VALUE, WHAT WE'RE DOING IS SIMPLY REMOVING THE PERMIT APPLICATION.
FOR A TYPICAL PLUMBING PERMIT APPLICATION, YOU'RE LOOKING AT $65.
IT'S NOT OFFSETTING THE COST OF THE WORK THAT THE HOMEOWNER IS GOING TO HAVE TO GET INVOLVED WITH THE COST OF BRINGING IN A PROFESSIONAL PLUMBER.
THIS IS JUST A SMALL INCENTIVE THAT ONE CAN UNDERTAKE IF YOU'RE DOING A PROJECT IN A NEIGHBORHOOD EMPOWERMENT ZONE.
TO GET TO THAT TYPE OF ROBUST INCENTIVE, YOU'D ALMOST HAVE TO HAVE A MATCHING PROGRAM, WHICH WE NO LONGER HAVE ON A BOOKS AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT, BUT THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING WHERE THE PROPERTY OWNER WOULD PUT IN A CERTAIN AMOUNT, THE CITY COULD MATCH THAT IF FUNDS WERE MADE AVAILABLE.
THE NEIGHBORHOOD EMPOWERMENT ZONE IS MORE ON THE COSMETIC SIDE WITH REGARD TO NEW CONSTRUCTION AND ELIGIBLE REHABILITATION.
>> IF YOU HAVE A LIEN ON A PROPERTY AND YOU HAVE AN ELIGIBLE PROJECT, YOU WOULD MEET WITH CITY STAFF AND WE WILL RELEASE THE ENTIRETY OF THE LIENS ON THE PROPERTY.
NOW, IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY LIENS AND YOU'RE REMODELING YOUR HOME, AND YOU'VE GOT TO CAST IRON PLUMBING.
YOU COULD COME IN AND WE WOULD WAIVE THE PERMIT FEE, BUT THE PERMIT FEE IS ROUGHLY $65.
IS IT A SAVINGS? SURE, BUT NOTHING THAT COMES CLOSE TO OFFSETTING THE COST THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER IS GOING TO HAVE TO CONSIDER WHEN DOING THAT TYPE OF WORK.
>> WE ARE TALKING BASICALLY, LIKE A MECHANICS LIEN THAT THEY [INAUDIBLE].
>> THE LINE COULD BE ANYTHING FROM HIGH WEEDS AND GRASS.
IT COULD BE ASSOCIATED WITH YOU DEMOLISHING A BUILDING ON THE SITE.
IT'S ALL LIENS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE, AND LISA DUELLO TYPICALLY HANDLES THAT FOR THE DEPARTMENT.
THEY WILL COME IN AND SATISFY THE LIENS WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD EMPOWERMENT ZONE, YOU CAN SIMPLY COME IN, MEET THE CRITERIA, IT GETS EVALUATED, AND THEN YOU CAN CHOOSE TO HAVE YOUR LIENS RELEASED IN ADDITION TO GETTING THE BENEFIT OF THE WAVE PERMIT FEES AS WELL.
IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE OF AN INCENTIVE TO ATTRACT INDIVIDUALS THAT MAYBE WANT TO INVEST IN ANY PART OF THE CITY THAT HAS A NEIGHBORHOOD EMPOWERMENT ZONE TO KNOW THAT IF THEY PUT IN A 20% MINIMUM INVESTMENT, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE CITY WOULD EVALUATE AND GRANT.
I'M THROWING OUT THE NUMBER OF 20%.
THAT'S SIMPLY A BASELINE AMOUNT THAT
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THE CITY STAFF PUT IN AFTER EVALUATING OTHER CITIES HERE IN THE REGION AND STATEWIDE.THE POLICY, AS IT'S WRITTEN, IS VERY MUCH YOUR DOCUMENT TO CHANGE AS YOU SEE FIT.
THERE'S NO ACTION REQUIRED TONIGHT OTHER THAN YOU TELLING US, HEY, YOU CAN TAKE THIS BACK TO COMMITTEE FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION, OR IF YOU WANT TO HAVE US BRING IT BACK FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION, WE HAVE ALL THE TIME IN THE WORLD TO DO THAT.
BUT WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IS PUT IN THE POLICY FIRST THAT IS CITYWIDE, AND THEN YOU CAN COME IN AND OFF THE HEELS OF THAT, GOING TO HAVE MORE DISCRETE CONVERSATIONS AT THE NEIGHBORHOOD LEVEL WITH CERTAIN AREAS OF THE CITY WHERE YOU WANT TO PUT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD EMPOWERMENT ZONE.
JUST BY WAY OF ELABORATING ON THAT, COUNCIL MEMBERS, YOU'LL GET REACHED OUT BY CITIZENS THAT WANT TO UNDERTAKE PROJECTS.
THE CITY HAS IN THE PAST, PUT IN PROGRAMS THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR SOME MATCHING ASSISTANCE, WHETHER IT'S WITH PLUMBING OR THINGS OF THIS NATURE.
THAT'S NOT THE PROGRAM FOR THIS.
YES, MA'AM. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE I PROCEED OR HOPEFULLY, AND CONFUSE ANYBODY.
>> SOME OF THE BENEFITS THAT WE'VE PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED IS USING THIS AS A TOOL TO REDUCE BLIGHT EXTENDED LIFE CYCLE OF HOUSING AND ENCOURAGE NEW INVESTMENT IN THE COMMUNITY.
WE'VE PREVIEWED THIS, BUT THESE ARE THE BUILDING AND DEVELOPMENT PERMIT FEES THAT WE ARE PUTTING FORWARD FOR RELIEF, YOUR BUILDING PERMIT FEES, DEMO FEES, ELECTRICAL IRRIGATION, MECHANICAL FEES, PLAN REVIEW FEES, AND WE'RE ALSO EXTENDING THAT TO THE LAND USE SITE, PLAT APPLICATION FEES, SIGN PERMIT FEES, ZONING APPLICATION FEES, AND OF COURSE, PLUMBING.
ONE OF THE THINGS WE LEFT OFF WERE IMPACT FEES THAT ARE NOT BEING CONSIDERED UNDER THE NEIGHBORHOOD EMPOWERMENT ZONE IS A DIFFERENT ANIMAL.
BUT IF YOU COME IN AND YOU'RE GOING TO COMPLETELY DEMO PROPERTY, BUILD A NEW HOUSE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD EMPOWERMENT ZONE, YOU CAN COME IN AND GET ALL OF THESE FEES WAIVED, AND THAT WOULD BE SOME BENEFIT TO AN INVESTOR OR A PROPERTY OWNER TO COME IN AND DO THAT AS OPPOSED TO SOMEWHERE ELSE IN THE CITY.
WE TALKED ABOUT THE LIEN RELEASE.
ESSENTIALLY, YOU'RE A PROPERTY OWNER, YOU CAN COME IN.
ONCE YOU MEET THE MINIMUM CRITERIA, IT WILL BE EVALUATED BY DEVELOPMENT SERVICES STAFF, AND THE RELEASE OF LIENS WILL BE ALLOWED IN CONJUNCTION WITH NEW CONSTRUCTION OR RENOVATION OF ELIGIBLE FACILITIES.
WHEN WE MEET ELIGIBLE FACILITIES, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE STRUCTURE AND NOT THINGS SUCH AS FURNITURE AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
IT'S THE REAL PROPERTY, THE STRUCTURE ITSELF.
WE WOULD LOOK AT THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT, DETERMINE THE ELIGIBILITY, AND THEN PROVIDE THE LIEN AMOUNT IN APPROXIMATE INTEREST TO BE INCURRED DEPENDING ON THE PROJECT COMPLETION DATE.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD TAKE PLACE WITH OUR STAFF IN CODE COMPLIANCE BECAUSE THEY TYPICALLY DEAL WITH THE LIENS AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES NOW.
BUT AGAIN, THIS IS JUST A CARROT TO ENTICE SOME INVESTMENT IN ADDITION TO THE PERMIT RELEASES.
ANOTHER OPTION. AGAIN, I MENTIONED THIS EARLIER IS THE TAX ABATEMENT THAT IS A LITTLE BIT MORE INVOLVED.
DEPENDING ON YOUR TAX SITUATION, EVERY CITY IS DIFFERENT.
WE HAVE SOME UNCERTAINTY WITH THE APPRAISAL DISTRICTS AND THE TIMING OF TAXES, AND WE THINK THAT WOULD BE AN UNDERTAKING THAT WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT MORE INVOLVED AND SOMETHING WE'LL PROBABLY LOOK AT LATER IF THE PROGRAM HAS SOME SUCCESS.
BUT WITH THIS POLICY, IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE COUNCIL WANTS US TO CONSIDER AND INCLUDE, THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN CERTAINLY DO.
THIS IS JUST THE ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA THAT WE'VE LISTED IN THE ORDINANCE, IN THE PACKET FOR YOU.
SOME OF THIS IS SELF EXPLANATORY.
IT'S NOT MUCH DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE SEE IN CITIES LIKE FORT WORTH AND SOME OF THE OTHER CITIES WE USED AS MODELS.
WE TALK ABOUT THE NEW CONSTRUCTION OR ELIGIBLE REHABILITATION, MINIMUM 20% OF THE BASE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY.
YOU CAN'T HAVE OTHER OUTSTANDING NON-CONFORMANCE ISSUES SUCH AS ANY URBAN DESIGN STANDARDS, ZONING OR LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS.
THEN WE'VE GOT SOME OF THE DEFINITIONS PARSED OUT FOR YOU, COUNCIL, DEFINITION FOR BASE VALUE, ELIGIBLE REHABILITATION, AND NEW CONSTRUCTION.
THOSE BULLET POINTS ON THE RIGHT ARE PRETTY MUCH THE MEAT POTATOES OF WHAT YOU HAVE TO LOOK
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AT IN TERMS OF HOW WE ARE DEFINING YOUR PROJECT WITH THE THINGS ON THE LEFT BEING SOME OF THE ANCILLARY THINGS THAT HAVE TO BE MET.>> THE ONLY THING I'D COMMENT ON THAT.
>> IS WHAT COMPRISES ELIGIBLE REHABILITATION.
I KNOW WE'VE HAD SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT PLUMBING IMPROVEMENTS, REPLACING OUTDATED PIPES, ELECTRICAL COULD BE SOMETHING, BUT THE PURPOSE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD EMPOWERMENT ZONE IS TO MAKE THE NEIGHBORHOOD LOOK BETTER.
IMPROVING THE WIRING OR THE PLUMBING DOESN'T ACCOMPLISH THAT.
I WONDER IF WHEN WE SAY PHYSICAL IMPROVEMENTS, IF WE SHOULDN'T BE A LITTLE MORE DEFINITE, THAT THAT MEANS THINGS THAT IMPROVE THE APPEARANCE OF THE PROPERTY AND NOT INCLUDE PLUMBING AND ELECTRIC AND OTHER THINGS THAT HVAC.
>> I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE CONFUSION IS THAT, ARE WE JUST LOOKING AT COSMETIC THINGS ARE WE LOOKING AT TRULY IMPROVING THE PROPERTY?
>> I THINK WE'RE LOOKING AT COSMETIC THINGS.
BASICALLY, IF WE'RE WAVING LIENS OR USING CITY FUNDS TO ASSIST THIS, WE'RE TAKING MONEY FROM ALL THE RESIDENTS AND MAKING AN IMPROVEMENT THAT SHOULD BE ENJOYED BY ALL THE RESIDENTS AND NOT JUST THE HOMEOWNER IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE.
THE HOMEOWNER WOULD HAVE NICE NEW PLUMBING OR ELECTRICITY, BUT THAT'S NOT GOING TO MAKE THE NEIGHBORHOOD LOOK ANY BETTER.
IF YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE THE NEIGHBORHOODS MONEY AND GIVE IT TO THEM, THEN YOU NEED TO MAKE SURE THE NEIGHBORHOOD BENEFITS.
>> WELL, JUST BY WAY OF EXPLANATION, WE'RE FOREGOING REVENUE IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE AND THAT WE'RE NOT COLLECTING FEES FOR THE PERMIT APPLICATIONS NOW WITH THE LIENS AND THE LIEN WAIVER.
YES, THAT WOULD BE ALSO THE CITY FOREGOING COLLECTION OF THOSE MONIES IF YOU HAVE ELIGIBLE PROJECT.
THE REMODELING ASPECT FOR A HOUSE AND LET'S SAY THE PLUMBING FOR THE HOUSE, WOULD PROBABLY NEVER RISE TO 20% OF THE VALUE OF THE ENTIRE PROPERTY UNLESS YOU'RE DOING SOMETHING REALLY INCREDIBLE.
THE BASIC BACKBONE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD EMPOWERMENT ZONE IS TO ENCOURAGE INVESTMENT AND THEN SEE THAT INVESTMENT PUT FORWARD ON THE STREET WHERE YOU CAN SEE THE VALUE AND BENEFIT OF THE PROGRAM.
THE QUESTION IS, IN MY MIND, ARE YOU GOING TO PARSE OUT CERTAIN ACTIVITIES THAT HAPPENED OVER THE COURSE OF PLUMBING IS AN ISSUE AND A COST THAT WOULD BE UNDERTAKEN ELECTRICAL.
WE CAN LOOK AT HOW MUCH OF THAT WORK AND WHETHER OR NOT A PERCENTAGE OF THE WORK HAS TO BE SHOWN ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE PROPERTY, IS SOMETHING WE CAN DO A DEEPER DIVE INTO, FOR SURE, TO MAKE SURE WE GET THE MAXIMUM OUTWARD BENEFIT.
>> TONY, ONE ASPECT OF THE NEZ ZONE IS TO EXTEND THE LIFE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, EXTEND THE LIFE OF THE HOME WHICH MEANS THAT WE'LL HAVE TO DO STRUCTURAL IMPROVEMENTS ALSO IN ORDER TO ACCOMPLISH THAT, NOT JUST COSMETIC.
THAT SOMETHING TO CONSIDER WHEN WE GO FORWARD WITH THIS.
>> YES. ALL OF WHAT WE LOOK AT INTERNALLY AS, ALL OF THIS IS TO THE BENEFIT OF THE STRUCTURE.
THERE ARE SOME THINGS WITH REGARD TO SOMEONE REHABBING A PROPERTY.
COULD YOU EXPECT TO SEE A NEW ROOF? SURE. COULD YOU EXPECT TO SEE NEW PAINT OR SIDING? ABSOLUTELY. WHAT STAFF DID NOT DO WAS BREAK DOWN HOW MUCH OF A PERCENTAGE OF THE IMPROVEMENTS NEEDED TO BE DEMONSTRATED.
SOME YOU CAN SEE FROM THE OUTSIDE.
WE COULD KEEP A TALLY, FOR INSTANCE, OF THE WORK THAT HAS TO BE DONE.
BUT FOR US, IS BASICALLY, WHAT ARE YOU BRINGING IN TO US? IS IT 20% OF THE BASE VALUE OF THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT? THAT'S THE MINIMUM THAT YOU NEED TO PARTICIPATE IN THE PROGRAM? WE WILL CERTAINLY EVALUATE WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN LOOK FOR SOMETHING MORE DISCRETE, MR. MAYOR PRO TEM, THAT COULD BE STRUCTURAL ELEMENTS THAT ARE VISIBLE FROM THE OUTSIDE, FOR INSTANCE.
BUT EVERY HOUSE IS A LITTLE DIFFER.
SOME PEOPLE WILL COME IN AND PUT IN NEW WINDOWS, FOR INSTANCE.
THAT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING WE COULD SEE FROM THE OUTSIDE DOWN SPOUTS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
BUT THROUGHOUT ALL OF THIS, THE BENEFIT TO THE PROPERTY OWNER IS JUST WAVING OF THE FEES, I DON'T WANT TO SAY JUST IS WAVING OF THE FEES AND ALSO WAVING OF THE LIENS FOR PARTICIPATION IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD EMPOWERMENT ZONE.
>> I'M CURIOUS. THIS MAY BE A QUESTION FOR COUNCILMAN BECKER, BUT WHEN PEOPLE BUY AND SELL PROPERTY, THE TITLE COMPANIES CLEAR THE LIENS UP AT CLOSING.
HOW DO WE REFUND LIENS TO PEOPLE WHEN THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO GET COLLECTED AT CLOSING?
>> IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE CONSIDERED. I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU.
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IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T HAVE THAT EXPERTISE IN HOUSE.IT'S A GOOD QUESTION, ONE THAT I CAN GO AND EVALUATE.
I'VE SEEN MOST OF LIENS, TYPICALLY ASSOCIATED A SHERIFF SALES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE OR THE INDIVIDUAL, THAT'S LOOKING TO PARTICIPATE IN THE PROGRAM.
IT'S ALSO THE INDIVIDUAL THAT'S INCURRING THE LIEN, SO THERE IS NO SEE OF THE HOUSE.
THE ISSUE WITH THAT IS AS THE POLICY IS WRITTEN, WELL, AS THE POLICY IS WRITTEN, YOU CAN HAVE THAT CIRCUMSTANCE.
YOU JUST CAN'T HAVE IT OUTSIDE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD EMPOWERMENT ZONE.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? WELL, YOU CAN BE THE PROPERTY OWNER.
HAVE LIENS ON YOUR PROPERTY, TURN IN AN ELIGIBLE REHABILITATION PROJECT THAT GETS EVALUATED, AND WE CAN RELEASE THOSE LIENS.
BUT IF YOU HAVE A PROPERTY OUTSIDE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD EMPOWERMENT ZONE AND YOU HAVE LIENS ON IT, THAT WOULD BE A DISQUALIFYING METRIC TO YOU PARTICIPATING IN THAT ASPECT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD EMPOWERMENT ZONE.
IT'S LIKE THE BAD ACTOR CLAUSE, BUT ONLY APPLIES OUTSIDE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD EMPOWERMENT ZONE.
>> I THINK I'M HAVING A BIG PROBLEM WITH THIS.
JUST HEAR ME OUT. I WILL NOT SAY THE ADDRESS.
BUT THERE IS A NEIGHBORHOOD AND THERE IS A HOUSE THAT IS ABOUT TO GO INTO FORECLOSURE.
I HAD A BUYER ON IT. WE WALKED AWAY BECAUSE THE PLUMBING IS DETERIORATING.
THERE ARE OTHER COMPONENTS TO IT THAT DOES FALL QUESTIONABLE.
SHOULD THE CITY HELP THEM OUT WITH THIS OR NOT? BUT THIS HOUSE, IT IS DETERIORATING FROM BIGGER ISSUES BEING THE PLUMBING.
>> NO, IT IS NOT PEER AND BEING.
BUT THE OUTSIDE OF IT, YES, THE FOUNDATION IS DETERIORATING AT THIS POINT AS WELL BECAUSE OF THE PLUMBING.
THERE ARE WINDOWS THAT ARE NOW POPPING OUT BECAUSE OF THE FOUNDATION, BECAUSE OF A HOUSE IS IT'S A SYSTEM.
IT'S JUST LIKE OUR SKELETON SYSTEM.
EVERYTHING HAS TO WORK TOGETHER, OR IT'S GOING TO FAIL.
SO YES, THE OWNER COULD GO THROUGH AND PUT PAINT ON IT AND PLANT SOME TREES OR REMOVE SOME TREES.
BUT THAT'S NOT GOING TO MAKE THAT HOUSE BETTER, THAT IS NOT GOING TO MAKE A LIVING CONDITION BETTER, AND IT WILL CONTINUE TO DETERIORATE.
UNTIL THOSE ISSUES, WE CAN'T PUT LIPSTICK ON A PIG. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?
>> IT DOES. FROM THE CITY'S PERSPECTIVE, WE'RE NOT GOING TO DICTATE THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT YOU MAKE TO THE PROPERTY.
WE'LL EVALUATE THOSE, AND WE'RE GOING TO SEE WHAT THE BENEFIT IS AND THE COST, AND THAT'S ALWAYS REPORTED BY THE PROPERTY OWNER.
HERE'S HOW MUCH I'M SPENDING ON THIS REMODEL.
MR. WHITEHEAD STAFF WILL EVALUATE THAT TO MAKE SURE THE NUMBERS LOOK LIKE THEY MAKE SENSE BASED ON WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT THE MARKET.
WITH THESE TYPES OF PROGRAMS, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO ALWAYS WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY MEET AT LEAST 20%.
THE ISSUE IS WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE INFLATING THE AMOUNT OF IMPROVEMENTS THEY'RE PUTTING INTO THE PROPERTY NOW.
THE NATURE OF THE IMPROVEMENTS ARE UP TO THE PROPERTY OWNER.
IF THEY WANT TO PUT IN $100,000 INTO THE HOUSE AND THE HOUSE IS VALUED AT $150,000, THEY'VE MET THE MINIMUM 20%.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO GO IN AND SAY THAT DOES HELP, THAT DOESN'T HELP, THAT DOESN'T QUALIFY.
WHAT, INSTEAD, WE'LL DO IT SAY, CONGRATULATIONS, YOU'VE MET THE 20%, THE BENEFIT NAILS THAT WILL WAIVE THESE FEES, OR IN SOME CASES, WAIVE THE LIEN.
I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE BTX REBATE PROGRAM A LITTLE BIT, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S PART OF MAYBE SOME OF THE CONFUSION WITH THE PREVIOUS PROGRAM.
THAT PROGRAM DID ALLOW FOR SOMEONE TO COME IN WITH AN ELIGIBLE PROJECT, CERTAIN COST AMOUNT.
WE HAD A POT OF MONEY, IF YOU WILL.
WE WOULD OFFSET SOME OF THAT TO THAT PARTICULAR PROPERTY OWNER.
WE HAD A LOT OF INDIVIDUALS IN THE CITY UTILIZING THAT PROGRAM.
THAT PROGRAM WAS TABLE BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE FUNDING FOR IT.
THIS PROGRAM IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT, AND THAT STILL EXTENDS THE LIFE CYCLE OF THE HOUSE, BUT IT'S DONE UNDER MORE RIGOROUS REGULATIONS ESTABLISHED BY THE STATE, AS OPPOSED TO HAVING A LOCAL SPECIFIC PROGRAM LIKE BTX REBATE, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
FOR THAT PARTICULAR PROPERTY OWNER, IT MAY BE THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO ADD IN THE ADDED BENEFIT OF SOME TAX ABATEMENT.
BUT THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE'VE CONTEMPLATED IN THIS POLICY. IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN.
BUT THAT'S ALWAYS SOMETHING THAT IS DONE IN THE FUTURE.
THEY COME AND MAKE THE IMPROVEMENTS.
THEY'RE GOING TO GET A TAX ABATEMENT RIGHT THEN AND THERE.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT OVER THE NEXT YEAR, A YEAR FROM THE DATE.
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JANUARY 1ST FROM THE DATE AFTER THE WORK HAS BEEN DONE TO SEE WHAT CHANGES HAPPENED.THAT'S A LITTLE IFFY SOMETIMES BECAUSE WE HAVE NO CONTROL OF WHAT THE TAX VALUATION WILL BE FOR THAT PROPERTY.
IF YOU LOOK AT IT, IF YOU'RE DOING ALL INTERIOR WORK, WELL, THE TAX APPRAISAL DISTRICT IS NOT GOING TO KNOW THAT YOU PUT IN NEW PLUMBING.
MOST OF WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK AT IS ANY IMPROVEMENTS THEY SEE FROM THE OUTSIDE.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE MAYOR PRO TEM WAS GETTING AT.
THERE'S CERTAIN ELEMENTS OF OF THE PROGRAM, WHERE IF YOU LOOK AT IT IN 100% OF WHAT YOU CAN DO, IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO SHOW SOME DEMONSTRABLE IMPROVEMENTS FROM THE OUTSIDE.
ALSO, COUNCIL MEMBER SCOTT IS CORRECT, YOU'RE ALSO LOOKING AT THE EXTENSION OF THE LIFE CYCLE OF THE HOUSING, WHICH ARE THOSE SYSTEMS THAT WILL BENEFIT THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, PLUMBING, STRUCTURAL, HVAC ELECTRICAL.
IT'S ALL OF IT IN CONSIDERATION OF THESE IMPROVEMENTS FOR THIS PROGRAM.
>> TONY I'M GO TO MAKE IT A LITTLE MORE COMPLICATED IF IT COULD BE.
WHAT ALEXI IS TALKING ABOUT, AND WHAT SHE BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION JUST NOW IS IF WE HAVE A FAILURE IN A HOME, SAY IT'S A SLAB LEAK, AND THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO REPLACE ALL THE PLUMBING IN THE SLAB? IT COMES UP TO 15% OF THE 20% WE NEED TO REDO THE NEZ.
IT'S A INSURABLE ITEM, SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE COVERED UNDER HOMEOWNERS INSURANCE.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T START BECOMING THEIR INSURANCE COMPANY.
>> SURE. BUT YOU'VE GOT TO LOOK AT WHAT INCENTIVE IS THE CITY PROVIDING, AND YOU'RE SIMPLY WAIVING THE PERMIT APPLICATION FEES.
IT IS A SMALL AMOUNT RELATIVE TO WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO SPEND.
WE'RE NOT OFFSETTING ANY OF THAT COST THAT THEY'RE GOING TO SPEND.
WE'RE JUST SAYING WHEN YOU COME IN, YOU APPLY FOR A PERMIT IS FREE.
OUR PERMITS ARE NOT EXPENSIVE PERMIT.
YOU MAY HAVE $2,000 WITH OF WORK YOU'RE GOING TO DO.
YOU'RE NOT GOING TO PAY A $2,000 PERMIT FEE TO US.
YOU'RE GOING TO PAY A PERMIT FEE THAT MAY BE 25 OR $50.
THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS PROGRAM IS ABOUT.
IT'S NOT A 60 40 MATCH, FOR INSTANCE.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT COUNSEL UNDERSTANDS THAT THIS IS NOT A MATCHING PROGRAM.
IT IS A MINOR AMOUNT COMPARED TO WHAT A 20% IMPROVEMENT TO A HOUSE WHAT WE THINK SEEM TO COST.
>> IT'S ALMOST LIKE PENNIES TO WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE SPENDING, BUT IT'S AN INCENTIVE TO SAY, HEY, YOU ACTUALLY CARE ABOUT YOUR PROPERTY, AND YOU'RE WILLING TO INVEST SOMETHING.
LET'S REWARD YOU BY WAIVING A $25 FEE.
WE JUST REALLY APPRECIATE THAT YOU ACKNOWLEDGE YOUR PROPERTY COULD HAVE A LIFT IN SOME WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM THAT DOES SOMETHING FOR THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD.
>> YES. THAT'S EXACTLY CORRECT.
AS SOMEONE WHO'S HAD RECENT WORK DONE ON MY FOUNDATION, I COULD TELL IT'S PAINFUL, BUT THAT'S ALL PART OF THE HOME OWNERSHIP.
I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE HAD A MATCHING PROGRAM, BUT AT SOME POINT IN TIME, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A FAILURE IN YOUR HOUSE, AND THE ROLE OF GOVERNMENT BECOMES MORE AND MORE LIMITED, THE MORE EXPENSIVE THESE REHABILITATION PROJECTS TAKE AND THEY BECOME.
THE ROLE OF THIS POLICY IS TO PUT SOME BROAD-BASED PARAMETERS IN PLACE THAT WOULD SERVE AS A BASIS FOR A SPRINGBOARD FOR YOU TO COME IN AND HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD EMPOWERMENT ZONE.
AGAIN, YOU'RE LOOKING AT FEE WAIVERS, LIEN RELEASES.
WE'VE NOT CONTEMPLATED THE TAX ABATEMENT FOR THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.
BUT I LOVE THE QUESTIONS BECAUSE IF THERE'S CONFUSION, IT MEANS THERE'S MORE WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY'S COMFORTABLE, WHICH IS PERFECTLY FINE.
WE WANT TO GET THIS IN FRONT OF YOU AND HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS.
>> TONY, DO WE HAVE CHECKS AND BALANCES IN THERE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY DON'T QUALIFY FOR BOTH PROGRAMS, MEANING THAT WE DO THE NEZ AND WAIVE THE FEES, AND THEN WE USE THE OTHER PROGRAM TO ASSIST IN THE REMODELING?
>> THE BTX REBATE PROGRAM IS GONE.
WE DIDN'T FUND THAT THIS FISCAL YEAR.
THAT POSSIBILITY NO LONGER EXISTS.
I WILL TELL YOU IT WAS A ROBUST PROGRAM.
WE HAD THAT CONVERSATION, AND THEN WE HAD TO CUT THE BUDGET.
IF THAT IS SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL WANTS TO HAVE AS AN OPTION FOR PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF AN NEZ, TOTALLY UNDERSTANDABLE, BUT THAT'S A FUNDING ISSUE AND A WHOLE ANOTHER CONVERSATION.
>> IF THE ECONOMY GETS BETTER, I THINK WE NEED TO REVISIT THAT.
I UNDERSTAND THE CUTTING OF IT BECAUSE OF THE BUDGET NOW, BUT IN THE FUTURE, IF THE ECONOMY HAS A GOOD UPTICK, WE MIGHT RECONSIDER THAT BECAUSE IT COVERS THE ENTIRE CITY.
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I THINK THAT THE NEZ WOULD BE BENEFICIAL, BUT IT IS A VERY SMALL ELEMENT THAT THE STATE PROVIDES FOR EXTENDED LIFE CYCLES AND SOME IMPROVEMENTS.
THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHAT IT IS.
YOU CAN'T MAKE IT MORE ROBUST THAN WHAT THE STATE PROVIDES.
WE'RE TRYING TO PUT IT IN A BURLESON-SPECIFIC LENS THAT WE THINK WILL BE BENEFICIAL.
THIS NEZ, THIS IS FUNDS THAT WE ESSENTIALLY GET CREDITED FROM THE STATE.
THE STATE IS ACTUALLY PAYING FOR THESE.
>> NO. WHAT IT IS IS THE STATE PUTS IN THE PARAMETERS.
IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE, WE'RE SAYING WE'RE GOING TO FOREGO REVENUE.
WE'RE NOT GIVING OUT ANY MONEY.
YOU JUST WON'T PAY IF YOU COME TO THE PERMIT COUNTER, IS WHAT WE'RE SAYING.
IT WILL BE A IMPACT TO THE GENERAL FUND BECAUSE YOU'RE FOREGOING REVENUE.
>> ARE YOU ALLOWING PERSONNEL TO MANAGE THIS? ARE YOU GOING TO NEED MORE PEOPLE TO MANAGE THIS PROGRAM?
>> NO. IT DEPENDS ON THE SCOPE AND THE NUMBER OF NEZS THE COUNCIL CHOOSES TO PUT FORWARD.
NOT EVERYBODY IS GOING TO UTILIZE THE NEZ.
IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, IF YOU'RE GOING TO COME AND REMODEL YOUR HOUSE, YOU'RE GOING TO DO IT WITHOUT A NEIGHBORHOOD EMPOWERMENT ZONE.
IF YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD A NEW HOUSE, IT'S GOING TO BE WITH OR WITHOUT A NEIGHBORHOOD EMPOWERMENT ZONE.
THE FACT THAT WE'LL HAVE ONE IS JUST A COST SAVINGS FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER.
I DON'T EXPECT US TO BE OVERRUN WITH PEOPLE COMING IN TO DO WORK WOULD BE GREAT.
BUT I THINK FOR THAT TO HAPPEN, YOU WOULD HAVE TO HAVE SOMETHING MORE ROBUST WITH A 60/40 OR 50/50 MATCHING SPLIT WITH ANOTHER PROGRAM.
>> WHERE I'VE SEEN THE NEZS COME IN BIG.
THERE'S IN FORT WORTH WHERE A DEVELOPER BUYS A WHOLE BLOCK, OR HALF A BLOCK, OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE, AND DOES SEPAL HOMES AT ONE TIME.
IT'S TO THEIR ADVANTAGE TO DO THAT.
>> YES. THOSE LARGER CITIES WILL MAKE IT MORE OF A BENEFIT, ALSO FROM A TAXING STAND POINT FROM THAT DEVELOPER AS WELL. YES.
>> IN THE LONG RUN, THE PAYBACK IS THROUGH THE PROPERTY TAX?
>> I LIKE IT. I THINK WE GOT SOME GOOD QUESTIONS HERE.
>> I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COUNCIL UNDERSTANDS.
GOOD, MR. CITY MANAGER. I'M SORRY.
>> NO, I'M JUST GOING TO SAY, WE'VE BRIEFED THIS MULTIPLE TIMES, AND THERE'S STILL MULTIPLE SLIDES FOR TONY TO GO THROUGH, BUT TO GET SOME CLARITY ON THE DIRECTION, IT SEEMS THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE COUNCIL'S CONCERN OR CONSTERNATION WAS CENTERED AROUND WHETHER OR NOT THE IMPROVEMENTS HAD TO HAVE SOME AESTHETIC EXTERIOR NATURE TO IT.
AM I PICKING THAT UP CORRECTLY?
>> I COULD HAVE WORDED WHAT I SAID BETTER.
BASICALLY, WHAT THE MONEY GETS SPENT ON TO GET TO THE 20% THRESHOLD DOESN'T MEAN ALL THAT MUCH, BUT I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT ANY QUALIFYING PROJECT WOULD HAVE TO INCLUDE AN AESTHETIC IMPROVEMENT THAT WOULD BENEFIT THE NEIGHBORHOOD, JUST TO THE BENEFIT OF THE HOMEOWNER HIMSELF.
>> THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WAS GOING TO RECOMMEND, RATHER THAN GETTING TO SOME NUANCE OF X PERCENT, BUT JUST SAYING THAT THE ELEMENT OF THE PROJECT MUST INCLUDE SOME EXTERIOR COMPONENT.
ANYTHING THAT MAKES THE PROPERTY LOOK BETTER.
BUT BELIEVE ME, I KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY YOU CAN SPEND ON A HOUSE WITHOUT NECESSARILY CHANGING THE EXTERIOR MUCH.
IT CAN BE A LOT OF MONEY, BUT THAT ONLY BENEFITS THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE.
IT DOESN'T BENEFIT ANYONE THAT DRIVES BY OR WANTS TO MOVE INTO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, WOULD LIKE IT TO LOOK BETTER.
>> IF WE MODIFIED THE POLICY TO INDICATE THAT THE IMPROVEMENTS MUST INCLUDE SOME EXTERIOR AESTHETIC COMPONENT, THAT WOULD ADDRESS THE COUNCIL'S CONCERNS.
>> THE LOOSER YOU KEEP IT, THE BETTER, BUT YES.
>> I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE FLEXIBILITY ENOUGH TO MAKE THE PROGRAM SUCCESSFUL, BUT MEET THE COUNCIL'S OBJECTIVE.
>> TO COUNCIL MEMBER SCOTT'S POINT, IF THEY GET A ROOF FOR THESE HOUSES, BY 20 GRAND AND SO 2% DEDUCTIBLE, AND THESE HOUSES ARE WORTH 250 THAT'S $5,000 DEDUCTIBLE.
OBVIOUSLY, INSURANCE IS GOING TO PAY 15, YOU'RE GOING TO PAY FIVE.
THE FIVE GOES TOWARD THE 20% THAT THEY PAY.
BUT WE DON'T COUNT THE 15 THAT INSURANCE IS PAYING, IS THAT CORRECT?
>> WELL, AND AGAIN, IN THIS SCENARIO, THE ADVANTAGE TO THE PROPERTY OWNER IS GOING TO BE THE WAIVER OF THE FEES.
>> COUNTING IT TOWARDS THE 20%, WE'RE ONLY GOING TO COUNT THE DEDUCTIBLE,
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THE OUT-OF-POCKET MONEY THAT THE HOMEOWNER IS ACTUALLY SPENDING, NOT WHAT INSURANCE IS PAYING, OR DO YOU COUNT WHAT INSURANCE IS PAYING?IF YOU COME IN NEXT SPRING, OR WE'LL HAVE ALL THESE HAILSTORMS AND DAMAGE ROOFS, WE HAVE A CONTRACTOR COME IN AND JUST PULL A ROOFING PERMIT.
THE PERSONAL BUSINESS OF HOW MUCH THE INSURANCE IS GOING TO PAY, WE'RE NEVER INVOLVED IN THAT.
WE'LL DO THE VALUATION OF THE ROOFING PERMIT.
IF THAT BY ITSELF IS 20%, THEN SO BE IT.
BUT IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, THE ONLY BENEFIT IS THE ROOF PERMIT FEE.
>> BUT TONY, THAT PERMIT IS BASED ON THE FULL JOB VALUE, NOT ON THE DEDUCTIBLE.
>> TO ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION, WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT IT LESS DIRECTED, OTHERWISE ON THE JOB VALUE AS OPPOSED TO WHAT THE OUT-OF-POCKET EXPENSE WAS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE ULTIMATE IMPROVEMENT IS.
CHANCES ARE, IF IT'S SOMEBODY COMING IN TO FIX UP YOU'RE PROBABLY GOING TO GET A NEW ROOF, EXTERIOR-WISE, THAT INSURANCE IS GOING TO TAKE CARE OF, SO YOU'LL HAVE SOME EXTERIOR BIT, BUT I LIKE THAT REQUIRING SOMETHING PAINT, BECAUSE, YES, THE INTERIOR IS IMPORTANT.
YOU OBVIOUSLY DON'T WANT THE HOUSE TO FALL APART BECAUSE THE PLUMBING IS BAD, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, EXTERIOR, YOU WANT IT TO LOOK NICE.
WELL, TONY, THE 20% AGAINST MARKET VALUE, IF THEY DECIDED TO ADD AN ADDITION ONTO THE HOUSE OR AN ADU, WHICH WE REALLY DON'T HAVE NOW, BUT WE MIGHT HAVE IN THE FUTURE, WOULD THAT BE CLASSIFIED AS PART OF THE 20% TOWARDS THE APPRAISED VALUE OF THE HOME?
>> YES, CAUSE A BRAND NEW STANDALONE ADU IS NEW CONSTRUCTION, AND ANY IMPROVEMENTS TO THE EXISTING HOME WILL BE ELIGIBLE REHABILITATION.
WE'LL LOOK AT THE TOTAL COST OF THE JOB.
IF IT'S A NEW CONSTRUCTION COMPONENT THAT GETS THEM TO 20%, SO BE IT.
>> ANY CONCERNS WITH THE CAVEATS OR THE DISCUSSIONS WE'VE HAD HERE WITH HOW WE MODIFY THE POLICY? TONY.
>> WITH REGARDS TO CERTIFICATIONS AND DENIED APPLICATIONS, STAFF WAS CERTIFIED A PROPERTY OWNERS' ELIGIBILITY, RECEIVE INCENTIVES BASED ON THE CRITERIA IN THE POLICY.
THESE CERTIFICATIONS ARE OWNER AND ADDRESS-SPECIFIC.
MINOR MODIFICATIONS TO EXISTING CERTIFICATION MAY BE MADE TO THE CITY WITH CORRECT DOCUMENTATION, AND NEW OR ADDITIONAL PROJECTS AT THE SAME ADDRESS OR THE SAME DEVELOPMENT WILL REQUIRE A NEW APPLICATION FOR PROJECT CERTIFICATION.
I'LL USE THE EXAMPLE THAT COUNCIL MEMBER SCOTT JUST USED WITH ADU.
YOU COULD COME IN AND DO A NEIGHBORHOOD EMPOWERMENT ZONE APPLICATION FOR AN EXISTING HOME.
TIME GOES BY, AND YOU SAY, I WANT TO PUT IN AN ADU.
THAT'S A NEW STRUCTURE, IT'S A NEW APPLICATION.
WE'LL TREAT IT A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY.
IF THE COUNCIL CHANGES THE BOUNDARIES OF A NEIGHBORHOOD EMPOWERMENT ZONE OR TERMINATES THE NEIGHBORHOOD EMPOWERMENT ZONE AREA, THE CERTIFIED PROJECTS WILL STILL BE IN EFFECT FOR THREE YEARS FROM THE ORIGINAL CERTIFICATION DATE.
THEY HAVE MORE TIME TO GET THE PROJECT DONE, EVEN IF YOU SAY, HEY, WE DON'T WANT TO DO THIS ANYMORE.
THEY'VE GOT 36 MONTHS AFTER THAT DATE THAT YOU MAKE THAT DECISION TO MOVE FORWARD.
NOW, IF YOU GO BEYOND THAT 36-MONTH DATE, THAT'S A HARD STOP.
WE DON'T MODIFY THAT DATE OR EXTEND THAT DATE BEYOND COUNCIL'S DIRECTION, SO 36 MONTHS, IF THE COUNCIL FEELS THAT YOU WANT TO GIVE MORE TIME FOR A PROJECT, YOU CAN.
IF WE'VE GOT A PROJECT LAGGING FOR 36 MONTHS, THAT'S A CONCERN IN THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT.
BUT NORMALLY, IF YOU HAVE THAT MUCH TIME, YOU'RE LOOKING AT MAYBE A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT WHERE YOU MAY RUN INTO SOME ISSUES, BUT TYPICALLY NOT RESIDENTIAL FOR SINGLE-FAMILY.
ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO APPEAL ON A DENIED APPLICATION WILL DO THAT BEFORE YOU.
THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WOULD COME BEFORE A CITY STAFF, AND YOU WOULD MAKE THAT DETERMINATION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT YOU WANT TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION.
BASED ON YOUR DIRECTION TONIGHT, WHAT ARE SOME POSSIBLE NEXT STEPS? ULTIMATELY, WE WILL HAVE TO BRING THIS BACK TO YOU FOR AN ACTION ITEM, NOT JUST A REPORT.
WE WOULD HAVE TO SET A PUBLIC HEARING TO ESTABLISH A NEIGHBORHOOD EMPOWERMENT ZONE.
THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN BEFORE THAT PUBLIC HEARING.
WE WOULD HAVE TO DO ROBUST OUTREACH, DIRECT MAILERS, HAVE AT LEAST A COMMUNITY TOWN HALL MEETING FOR ANYBODY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS INTERESTED IN LEARNING ABOUT NEIGHBORHOOD EMPOWERMENT ZONES AND WHAT THE BENEFIT MIGHT BE.
ALSO MAKE THEM AWARE OF THE MEETING SO THEY COULD SHOW UP WITH SOME UNDERSTANDING OF THE BENEFIT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD EMPOWERMENT ZONE WOULD PROVIDE.
THE ACTUAL APPROVAL WOULD HAPPEN THROUGH
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A RESOLUTION THAT THE COUNCIL WILL PASS FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD EMPOWERMENT ZONE.NOW, THAT'S THE PART WHERE YOU HAVE TO HAVE A FINDING THAT THE PUBLIC PURPOSE OF THE ZONE BENEFITS, AND IT'S FOR THE PUBLIC PURPOSE OF INCREASING THE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY, AND WELFARE OF THE PERSONS IN THE MUNICIPALITY.
THERE ARE SOME HARSH LANGUAGE IN SOME OF THE PROVISIONS OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE, BUT THAT'S THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN.
THOSE ARE THE FINDINGS THAT THE COUNCIL WOULD HAVE TO HAVE WITH REGARD TO ANY AREA THAT YOU ESTABLISH THE NEIGHBORHOOD EMPOWERMENT ZONE.
HILLARY MONTCLAIR COMMUNITY WAS PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED AS A TARGET AREA.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL IS STILL WILLING TO LOOK AT.
WE'VE GOT 464 RESIDENTIAL LOTS.
WE WOULD NOTIFY ALL OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS.
THE STRUCTURES ARE ON AVERAGE 60-YEARS-OLD, AND AS OF 2024, THE PROPERTY APPRAISAL VALUATION WAS A LITTLE OVER $218,000.
YOU CAN HAVE AS MANY NEIGHBORHOOD EMPOWERMENT ZONES AS YOU WOULD LIKE, BUT YOU HAVE TO HAVE A POLICY FIRST.
THIS WOULD BE SIMPLY THE FIRST NEIGHBORHOOD EMPOWERMENT ZONE, SHOULD YOU CHOOSE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT ACTION.
YOU CAN HAVE ANOTHER NEIGHBORHOOD EMPOWERMENT ZONE SOMEWHERE ELSE IN THE CITY, AND YOU CAN CHANGE IT TO WHAT YOU THINK IS BENEFICIAL, WHETHER IT CAN BE JUST FOR COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES OR IN SOME PARTS OF THE CITY, MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT.
AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, WE WOULD CONDUCT SOME OUTREACH.
FROM THE START TO FINISH, WE'D LIKE TO HAVE A GOOD BLANKETING OF PROBABLY A GOOD MONTH TO MAKE SURE THAT INDIVIDUALS ARE REACHED PRIOR TO ANY ESTABLISHMENT OF A PUBLIC HEARING FOR A NEIGHBORHOOD EMPOWERMENT ZONE.
DURING THE COURSE OF THE PUBLIC HEARING, THAT WILL ALLOW YOU TO GET INPUT FROM THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS ABOUT THE ZONE AND WHETHER OR NOT THEY THINK THAT THE BENEFITS BEING PROVIDED BY THE CITY ARE ENOUGH, OR IF THE THRESHOLD IS TOO HIGH, OR IF YOU THINK YOU WANT TO INCLUDE SOME TAX INCENTIVES INTO THAT AS WELL.
IS COUNCIL COMFORTABLE WITH THE PROPOSED INCENTIVES, FEE WAIVERS, AND LIEN RELEASE? DO YOU WANT TO SEE THAT INVOLVE PROPERTY TAXES IN SOME CAPACITY?
>> ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH THE 10-YEAR LENGTH? DO YOU WANT TO HAVE THAT SHORTER? I WOULDN'T RECOMMEND GOING LONGER, BUT DO YOU WANT TO HAVE IT SHORTER THAN 10 YEARS WITH THE INITIAL LENGTH OF A NEIGHBORHOOD EMPOWERMENT ZONE? THIS IS ALL THINGS THAT WE HAVE IN THE POLICY.
I DON'T HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS WITH HAVING IT.
IT'S JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, BECAUSE THE COST OF THE CITY IS NOMINAL, AND IT'S REALLY WHAT'S THE INCENTIVE FOR THE PERSON DOING IT.
BUT SINCE IT'S A FIRST TIME DEAL, I MAYBE CUT IT IN HALF TO FIVE YEARS WITH ALLOWING US TO EXTEND IT.
>> YOU CAN DO THAT. I JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT IF THAT CONSISTS, I'LL JUST HAVE IT REFLECTED IN THE POLICY.
>> IS THAT 10 YEARS JUST FOR THIS ONE AREA?
>> THE 10 YEAR IS PUT IN TO THE POLICY ITSELF.
WHEN YOU SET UP YOUR SPECIFIC NEIGHBORHOOD EMPOWERMENT ZONE, YOU CAN HAVE THAT RUN A DIFFERENT LENGTH IF YOU THINK THAT'S ALL YOU NEED.
IT COULD BE THREE YEARS, IT COULD BE FIVE YEARS, BUT YOU SHOULDN'T SEE THE LENGTH OF TIME IN THE IN THE POLICY ITSELF.
SO TYPICALLY, 5-10 ARE EASIER FOR PEOPLE TO REMEMBER THAN THE ODD NUMBER, OTHER NUMBERS LIKE THREE OR SEVEN, FRANCIS.
>> IS FIVE YEARS LONG ENOUGH TO GET IT ROLLING AND GET THINGS TO HAPPENING AND IDENTIFY THE GOOD AND THE BAD IN ORDER TO MAKE A SECOND DECISION?
>> GOOD QUESTION. THE LARGER THE AREA, THE LONGER YOU WOULD THINK IT WOULD TAKE TO ACTUALLY SEE SOME FRUITFUL BENEFIT.
>> [OVERLAPPING] IF WE HAD THE FIVE-YEAR, AT FOUR YEARS, THEY DECIDED THEY WANTED TO DO SOMETHING.
THAT GOES WITH THE THREE-YEAR EXTENSION.
>> THAT INCORPORATES THAT FIVE YEARS.
>> YES, SIR. YOU CAN COME IN ON THE LAST DAY OF THE LENGTH OF THE TIME FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD EMPOWERMENT ZONE, AND THEN YOU GET THE THREE YEARS BECAUSE THAT'S IN THE ACTUAL POLICY.
SO TO GET BACK TO THE QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT WE THINK FIVE IS SUFFICIENT, I DON'T KNOW.
I THINK THAT'S A POLICY DISCUSSION FOR THE COUNSEL.
YOU CAN DO LESS THAN 10 IF YOU THINK YOU WANT TO START AT 10 AND THEN TWEAK IT.
IF YOU DON'T HAVE A LOT OF INTEREST, YOU CAN DO THAT.
BUT WE THREW 10 OUT AS A GOOD MEASURING STICK.
THAT'S PRETTY GOOD LENGTH OF TIME.
YOU COME ABOUT A DECADE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD EMPOWERMENT ZONE, AND TYPICALLY, YOU CAN GET A LOT OF BENEFIT IN THAT DECADE, PARTICULARLY IF YOU'VE GOT SOME COMMERCIAL ENTERPRISES [OVERLAPPING]
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>> I DON'T THINK WE'LL SEE ENOUGH IN FIVE YEARS.
I DON'T THINK IT'LL BE IMPACTFUL ENOUGH.
IT TAKES TIME TO GET WORD OUT.
NEIGHBORS HAVE TO SEE, OH, THAT IS A GOOD IMPROVEMENT.
MAYBE I SHOULD INVEST AND DO SOMETHING SIMILAR WITH MY PROPERTY.
YOU MULL IT OVER AND BUDGET FOR IT.
I JUST DON'T THINK FIVE YEARS IS LONG ENOUGH FOR US TO ACTUALLY SEE AN IMPACT.
>> LARRY WAS TALKING ABOUT FORT WORTH DID THIS, AND YOU ACTUALLY SAW ONE.
>> YOU CAN SEE THE RESULTS GOING UP BY 35 ROUND ROADS DOWN THAT AREA, THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS THROUGH THERE, WHERE A LOT OF THOSE HOMES DISAPPEARED AND THEN CAME BACK AS NEWER HOMES.
>> A LOT OF THAT, THAT'S AN NEZ ZONE, AND A LOT OF WAS [OVERLAPPING]
>> THOSE HOUSES WERE 80, 90-YEARS-OLD.
A LOT OF THEM WERE ABANDONED, AND VAGRANTS HAD MOVED IN, OTHER THINGS HAD GOING ON, AND THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT TO TRY TO PREVENT.
>> WE TALKED ABOUT GETTING THE WORD OUT.
HOW DO YOU GET THE WORD OUT? IS THIS STRICTLY BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD? SOMETHING LIKE FORT WORTH AND LARRY'S TALKING ABOUT, THAT WASN'T JUST NEIGHBORHOODS TALKING ABOUT IT.
A DEVELOPER KNEW WHAT WAS GOING ON.
>> SURE. FORT WORTH HAS A VERY, VERY ROBUST NEIGHBORHOOD EMPOWERMENT ZONE PROGRAM.
THEY MASTER PLAN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD EMPOWERMENT ZONES.
IT IS SOMETHING THAT IS DELIBERATE AND VERY THOUGHTFUL, AND IT PUSHES AN INVESTOR TO A CERTAIN DESIRED OUTCOME.
IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, AS FAR AS GETTING THE WORD OUT, CERTAINLY DIRECT MAIL.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE MAKE OURSELVES AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS AND ALSO CONDUCT AT LEAST ONE COMMUNITY MEETING WHERE INDIVIDUALS CAN COME IN AND ASK STAFF QUESTIONS.
WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE IT CONFUSING TO PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF A PROPOSED NEIGHBORHOOD EMPOWERMENT ZONE BECAUSE YOU HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL FROM ANOTHER PART OF THE CITY THAT SAYS, WELL, WHAT IS THIS? I WANT TO PARTICIPATE. RIGHT NOW, WE'RE JUST FOCUSED ON THE HILLARY MONTCLAIR NEIGHBORHOOD.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO REACH OUT TO AND HAVE SOMETHING SPECIFIC TO THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD, LARGELY RESIDENTIAL AND HAVE OURSELVES AVAILABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS, PUT TOGETHER FIRES.
WE CAN CANVASS THE AREA WITH CO-COMPLIANCE STAFF, PLANNING STAFF, TO GET THE WORD OUT, TO HAVE A COMMUNITY MEETING, SOMETHING ON ORDER OF WHAT WE RECENTLY DID WITH THE STAFF DEALING WITH THE DRAINAGE FEES.
I WANT TO HAVE THAT TYPE OF OUTREACH, BUT ON A MORE MICRO LEVEL TO HAVE THE INDIVIDUALS ENGAGED AND INFORMED PRIOR TO THE PUBLIC HEARING TAKING PLACE.
>> JUST A THOUGHT AS AN ADDITIONAL INCENTIVE.
IS THERE FOR AN EXPEDITED PERMIT PROCESS REVIEW?
>> SURE. WE CAN PUT THAT IN. THAT'S EASY TO DO.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN ADD AS AN INCENTIVE AND MOVE UP TO THE FRONT OF THE LINE, SO TO SPEAK.
IF YOU PARTICIPATE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD EMPOWERMENT ZONE, CERTAINLY, THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN ADD IF THE COUNCILS WANTED TO DO THAT.
>> LOOKING AT YOUR MAP ON SLIDE 10.
WE GO DOWN ONE SIDE OF RENFRO AND WE GO DOWN ONE SIDE OF CINDY, AND WE DON'T COVER THE OTHER SIDES OF THE STREET.
WOULD THERE BE ANYTHING TO BE GAINED FROM INCLUDING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD EMPOWERMENT ZONE, THE HOUSES ON BOTH SIDES OF RENFRO THROUGH THAT LIMIT AND BOTH SIDES OF CINDY?
>> OTHER THAN THAT, WE DO BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET ON ALL THE STREETS, EXCEPT ON THOSE TWO?
>> YES. TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, WE CAN DO THAT.
THIS MAP WAS BASICALLY DONE AT THE COMMITTEE LEVEL.
WHEN WE GO THROUGH AND SET UP THE BOUNDARIES OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD EMPOWERMENT ZONE, THE COUNCIL AT THAT POINT IN TIME, CAN EXTEND THAT ZONE ANYWHERE YOU'D LIKE.
THE COUNCIL WANTS TO HAVE STAFF EXTEND THAT ZONE TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET AND CAPTURE THE HOUSES SO THAT YOU HAVE THE HOUSES ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET RIGHT AWAY.
CERTAIN COULD BE DONE. NOT A PROBLEM.
>> YEAH, ESPECIALLY ON RENFRO BECAUSE IT'S SUCH A HIGH VISIBILITY STREET.
THAT'S ABOUT ANOTHER APPROXIMATELY 50 HOMES.
>> I THINK WHEN IT FIRST CAME TO COMMITTEE, THERE WAS FIVE OR SIX ZONES IDENTIFIED THROUGHOUT THE CITY, AND THEY HAD CRITERIA THAT YOU USED.
I BELIEVE IT WAS AGE OF THE HOME, CRIME RATE, TAXES.
BUT I LIKE DAN'S THINKING IF WE INCREASE THE SIZE OF IT SOMEWHAT, MAYBE THAT AREA WILL NOT FIT THE CRITERIA,
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BUT WE'LL HAVE A BETTER OPPORTUNITY TO BE SUCCESSFUL.>> SURE. WHILE THE CRITERIA WAS VERY SPECIFIC, THE AREAS WERE NOT.
WE STARTED OUT WHAT WE CALL HEAT MAPS WORKING WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND TRIED TO FINE TUNE THOSE ALONG ESTABLISHED RIGHTS OF WAY, JUST TO GIVE A HARD EDGE.
SO IF WE WANT TO EXTEND THAT HARD EDGE TO INCLUDE THE RIGHT OF WAY AND THE HOUSES ADJACENT TO THAT, IT'S JUST A SIMPLE MAPPING EXERCISE.
>> WELL, I HATE TO KEEP CHANGING THIS EVERY TIME WE HAVE A CONVERSATION, IT MAKES IT MORE DIFFICULT.
>> THESE ARE SIMPLE CHANGES. NOT A PROBLEM AT ALL.
>> WE GOT ONE CHANCE TO GET IT RIGHT.
>> YEAH. NOT A PROBLEM AT ALL.
I DON'T KNOW IF I'M FINISHED THE PRESENTATION, FORGIVE ME.
I'M SITTING HERE LOOKING MY MOUTH OPEN.
NOT A GOOD LOOK. THAT CONCLUDES THE PRESENTATION.
I WILL BRING THE POLICY BACK BECAUSE ULTIMATELY, WE DO HAVE TO HAVE THIS APPROVED, AND I'LL INCORPORATE THE CHANGES.
THE QUESTION I HAVE IS, DOES THE COUNCIL FEEL THE NEED TO HAVE THIS GO BACK? YOU COUNSEL WOULD BE JUST BRINGING IT BACK TO THE ENTIRE COUNCIL WITH THE PROPOSED CHANGES IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO ASK.
>> TOMMY, WAS THERE SOMETHING YOU WANTED TO TALK ABOUT?
>> NO, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT TONY TOOK MY QUESTION.
SO JUST GETTING DIRECTION ON, IS THIS SOMETHING YOU THINK IS READY FOR POLICY ADOPTION? THEN THAT POINT, GETTING CLEAR DIRECTION IN TERMS OF THE GEOGRAPHIC AREA AND MAKING SURE YOU'RE CLEAR AND OKAY WITH THIS PROCEEDING WITH OUTREACH, BECAUSE BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE THE NEXT STEP.
>> I WOULD LOOK FORWARD TO GO TO COMMITTEE AGAIN BEFORE IT COME TO COUNCIL, JUST SO WE ALL TRY TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT.
>> WE CAN DO THAT. I THINK BASICALLY YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF NEW IDEAS TO GO THROUGH RIGHT NOW AND TO POSSIBLY MAKE A FEW CHANGES.
IF WE GO TO COMMITTEE, IT'S GOING TO DELAY IT FURTHER.
IF THAT'S THE COUNCIL'S PREROGATIVE, WE'RE GOING TO GO TO COMMITTEE.
>> I THINK [INAUDIBLE] IT'S MY OPINION.
>> I FEEL LIKE WE'RE DOING MORE BRAINSTORMING UP HERE.
BECAUSE COMMITTEE, WE'RE ALL JUST, DO WE WANT TO DO THIS, BUT THEN WE'RE WORKING OUT THE NUANCES AT THIS POINT. [OVERLAPPING]
>> I THINK WE JUST HAD A REALLY GOOD DISCUSSION TONIGHT.
>> LET'S JUST BRING IT BACK TO COUNSEL.
>> I'M AFRAID IF IT GOES TO THE COMMITTEE AND WE MAKE DECISIONS, AND IT COMES BACK TO COUNCIL, WE'LL DO THE SAME THING TONIGHT.
>> I AGREE WITH THAT. LET'S JUST BRING IT BACK TO COUNSEL, IS IT, ALEX?
>> I KNOW PEOPLE ARE GETTING TIRED OF SITTING THERE AND LISTENING TO US, REPEAT THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
I'LL WORK WITH CITY MANAGER AND GET THIS BACK ON YOUR AGENDA.
[INAUDIBLE] HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THE PROPOSED CHANGES.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
[8.C. Receive a report, hold a discussion and provide staff direction regarding plaza maintenance. (Staff Contact: Jen Basham, Director of Parks and Recreation)]
THAT BRINGS US TO 8(C), RECEIVE A REPORT, HOLD A DISCUSSION AND PROVIDE STAFF DIRECTION REGARDING PLAZA MAINTENANCE.THE STAFF PRESENTER THIS EVENING IS JEN BASHAM, DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION. HI, JACK.
>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
I WANT TO PREFACE THIS PRESENTATION BY SAYING THAT THIS IS ABSOLUTELY A GROUP EFFORT.
SO WHILE SOME OF THE ELEMENTS YOU'LL BE SEEING THIS EVENING ARE MANAGED BY THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT, MANY OTHER ELEMENTS WERE ASSISTED BY PUBLIC WORKS AND BY OUR PURCHASING DEPARTMENT WHO OVERSEES WASTE MANAGEMENT.
SO THIS IS ABSOLUTELY A COLLECTIVE EFFORT, AND I WILL ANSWER EVERYTHING I CAN, AND I WILL DEFER TO EVERYTHING I CANNOT.
WE'LL GET STARTED WITH A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY.
WE WERE REQUESTED TO BRIEF THIS ITEM BY THE COUNCIL, AND SO JUST TO GIVE SOME BACKGROUND, THE PLAZA WAS OPENED IN 2020 DURING COVID.
IN 2021, WE REALIZED THAT THERE WAS NOBODY REALLY ASSIGNED TO ACTUALLY TAKE CARE OF IT.
IT WASN'T A PARK, IT WASN'T A PUBLIC WORKS AREA.
SO HOW DO WE TAKE CARE OF THIS? SO WE ADDED A PART TIME EMPLOYEE TO SUPPORT THE MAINTENANCE OF THE PLAZA.
BETWEEN 2021 AND 2023, THINGS WERE ROCKET AND ROLLING, THE GROWTH OF THE AREA CONTINUED TO DEVELOP, OUR SCOPE EXPANDED, AND WE ADDED A SECOND PART TIME EMPLOYEE TO REALLY OFFSET SOME OF THAT ADDITIONAL MAINTENANCE NEED IN SOME ADDITIONAL AREAS, AS WELL AS JUST SOME HIGH USE TRAFFIC DURING THE WEEKENDS AND THE AFTERNOONS.
SO TO START, IN 2020, THIS IS WHAT THIS PART TIME EMPLOYEE MAINTAINED.
TODAY, THIS IS WHAT OUR TWO PART TIME EMPLOYEES MAINTAIN.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE, VISUALLY, IT'S A REALLY LARGE AREA THAT OUR GUYS ARE WORKING EVERY DAY.
THEN THIS IS OUR CURRENT MAINTENANCE GOALS, AND WE'RE GOING TO BE REALLY HONEST THAT WE DO NOT HAVE THE CAPACITY WITH OUR TWO EXISTING PART TIME EMPLOYEES TO HIT EVERY SINGLE THING ON THIS LIST,
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ESPECIALLY WHEN THINGS POP UP.SO IF THERE'S GRAFFITI, IF THERE'S A BIG SPILL, IF SOMEONE HAS MOVED ALL OF THE ROCKS FROM WHERE THE TABLES ARE INTO THE TURF, THAT BECOMES YOUR TASK FOR THE DAY.
THE OTHER THING THAT YOU WON'T SEE ON HERE IS THAT CURRENTLY OUR STAFF THAT MANAGE THE PLAZA AND THE OLD TOWN AREA, IS THEY COMMUTE FROM OUR MAINTENANCE AREA TO THE SITE EVERY DAY ON A CART.
SO THEY SPEND AN HOUR A DAY OF THEIR 19 HOURS A WEEK COMMUTING BACK AND FORTH.
SO THERE IS SOME OVERLAP AND SOME THINGS WE'RE WORKING ON.
WE ACTUALLY DO HAVE A PLAN TO HAVE AN ENCLOSURE IN OLD TOWN SO THAT THEY CAN MOVE OVER AND GET THEIR TIME BACK.
BUT THAT DOES TAKE A LOT OF OUR TIME EVERY SINGLE DAY DOING THAT.
I WILL NOT READ WORD FOR WORD, WHAT YOU CAN DO, BUT YOU CAN SEE WE'VE GOT SOME DAILY TASKS THAT TAKE US ABOUT FOUR HOURS A DAY.
OLD TOWN DISTRICT TASKS, SO THAT'S IN ADDITION TO THE PLAZA, THAT TAKES SOME ADDITIONAL TIME.
WE HAVE SOME SPECIALTY TASKS LIKE FLUFFING THE TURF.
SO IF YOU SEE WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO THAT IN A WEEK OR SO, THE TURF STARTS LOOKING REALLY MATTED.
SO WE HAVE TO GET THAT FLUFFED BACK UP.
THEN ON MONDAYS IS WHEN OUR TWO PART TIME STAFF OVERLAP, AND THAT'S WHEN WE DO OUR WEEKLY DEEP CLEAN.
THIS IS CAPACITY VERSUS DEMAND.
YOU'LL SEE THAT MONDAY WE HAVE THAT OVERLAP, AND THEN TUESDAY THROUGH SUNDAY, WHAT THOSE HOURS ARE BROKEN UP AS, AND YOU CAN SEE IN THAT BOTTOM RED LINE REALLY WHAT THAT CAPACITY GAP IS.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT A LITTLE BIT OF A DEFICIENCY OF A 19.5 HOURS CURRENTLY.
SO HOW THAT RELATES TO WHAT YOU VISUALLY SEE AND FEEL WHEN YOU'RE IN THE PLAZA OR IN OLD TOWN SPECIFICALLY, IS DEFERRED TASK.
SO SOMETIMES INCONSISTENT PLAZA APPEARANCE, YOU COULD WALK IN IN THE MORNING RIGHT AFTER OUR TEAM HAS LEFT, AND IT LOOKS BEAUTIFUL, AND THEN WE COULD GET TWO OR THREE USER GROUPS THROUGH THE SPACE, AND IT COULD BE TRASH, AND WE DON'T HAVE STAFF THERE AGAIN UNTIL THE NEXT DAY.
SO THAT HAS TO BE A CHALLENGE.
CURRENTLY, THE PLAZA RESTROOMS ARE CLEANED ONCE A DAY.
SO THEY'RE CLEANED IN THE MORNINGS.
IF ANYTHING HAPPENS AFTER THE MORNING AND THERE IS A NUMBER IN THE RESTROOMS TO CALL US.
IF OUR TEAM IS STILL HERE BEFORE 3:00 PM, WE'LL COME AND TAKE CARE OF IT, BUT IF NO ONE CALLS US, WE DON'T KNOW IT UNTIL THE NEXT DAY WHEN WE COME BACK IN.
OF COURSE, WITH THAT, IT'S ALSO THE ABILITY TO RESPOND TO STUFF THAT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME.
PEOPLE SPILLING DRINKS, SOMETHING MAYBE GOING AWRY WITH THE CHEST PIECES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
THOSE DON'T GET RESET UNTIL THE NEXT DAY.
THE OTHER CHALLENGE IS THAT WE DON'T REALLY HAVE THE STAFFING OR RESOURCES TO REALLY ENHANCE OUR CURRENT MAINTENANCE, AS WELL AS HOW FREQUENTLY WE DEEP CLEAN THE AREA.
WE ALSO DO HAVE CONTRACTED LANDSCAPE SERVICES IN THE OLD TOWN DISTRICT.
THEY SERVICE THE OLD TOWN WEEKLY ON THURSDAYS.
IT'S 1.56 ACRES, BUT I'LL SHOW YOU ON THE MAP NEXT THAT IT IS A LOT OF LITTLE MINUTIA.
THEY DO THROUGHOUT THE DISTRICT AND THE ARTERIAL CORRIDORS AND INTERSECTIONS.
THIS IS ONE OF WHAT WE WOULD CALL OUR PREMIER TIER LANDSCAPE MEDIANS.
OUR TEAM INTERNALLY DOES AN ADDITIONAL ONE.
THEY DO OUR SHRUB AND SMALL TREE TRIMMING, AND THEY REMOVE DEAD PLANT MATERIAL, AND THEY DO LEAF PICKUP SIX TIMES A YEAR.
WE DO LEAF PICKUP IN ADDITION TO THAT, AND THEN IF THEY SEE ANYTHING ELSE WHILE THEY'RE OUT HERE, THEY'LL CLEAN THAT UP WITHIN THE FLOWER BEDS.
THAT CONTRACT IS $89,250 ANNUALLY.
ALL OF THESE LITTLE BITTY GREEN FINE DETAIL AREAS ARE THE BEDS THAT ARE WITHIN THAT CONTRACT.
>> EVERYONE'S LOOKING AT ITS WHOLE GIFT A SECOND BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD.
>> THIS IS THE AREAS THAT WE KNOW THAT STAFF WOULD LIKE TO REALLY ADDRESS WITH ADDITIONAL STAFFING CONSIDERATIONS.
IF WE WERE TO ADD STAFFING, WE WOULD HAVE THAT DAILY IMPROVEMENT, SO THAT ADDITIONAL RESTROOM CLEANING, ADDITIONAL WALK THROUGHS, ADDITIONAL RESPONSES TO THOSE SPILLS AND MESSES.
WE WOULD HAVE EXPANDED COVERAGE DURING OUR HIGHEST USE HOURS, WHICH IS EVENINGS AND WEEKENDS, AND THEN IMPROVED ABILITY JUST TO HAVE A CONSISTENT PRESENCE.
WHETHER YOU'RE HERE IN THE MORNING OR YOU'RE HERE LATE IN THE EVENING, YOU HAVE THE SAME EXPERIENCE.
IT'S THE SAME LEVEL OF CLEANLINESS.
WE WOULD ALSO HAVE A REDUCED BACKLOG OF THOSE TASKS THAT WE'RE NOT ABLE TO GET TO WHEN WE'RE PULLED OFF BECAUSE OF THINGS OCCUR.
THEN, OF COURSE, AS WE ALWAYS DO, WE REALLY WANT TO MAINTAIN OUR CITY ASSETS THROUGH SOME PROACTIVE MAINTENANCE.
THIS IS SOME AREAS THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED THAT ARE NOT WITHIN THE SCOPE OR THE TABLES THAT I JUST SHOWED YOU.
THIS IS STUFF LIKE EXPANSION JOINT UPKEEP BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS AND THE SIDEWALKS ALONG THE OLD TOWN DISTRICT.
IF THERE'S BIRD DROPPINGS, IF THERE'S SITE FEATURES SUCH AS OUR BRICK BENCHES,
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STONE CAPS OR SIMILAR STRUCTURES.WERE THEY BUSINESS OWNERS, WERE THEY PUBLIC WORKS, WERE THEY PARKS AND REC.
WE'VE COME TOGETHER, AND WE'VE IDENTIFIED THAT OUR TEAM WILL TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE FROM AN INSPECTION STANDPOINT.
BUT IN ORDER TO ACTUALLY ADDRESS THOSE AND MAINTAIN THEM AS THE CITY, THAT WOULD BE ABOUT 25 ADDITIONAL LABOR HOURS PER MONTH, THE SECONDARY ITEM WOULD BE POWER WASHING ON A HIGHER FREQUENCY.
IN DECEMBER OF THIS YEAR, WE ACTUALLY WERE ABLE TO PROCURE A HOT WATER POWER WASHER THAT'S EQUIPPED WITH A WATER TANK SO WE CAN TAKE THAT ANYWHERE.
IF YOU'VE SEEN US AROUND TOWN, IT'S OUR FAVORITE NEW TOY. WE'RE CLEANING EVERYTHING.
BUT WE WOULD RECOMMEND A MONTHLY POWER WASHING OF ALL OF OUR ALLEYS TO IMPROVE THE CLEANLINESS, AS WELL AS SOME OF THOSE STREET SCAPES THAT PEOPLE JUST CAN'T GET TO.
THERE'S NOT A LOT OF WATER HOOKUPS IN OLD TOWN FOR PEOPLE TO TAKE CARE OF THAT STUFF OURSELVES, AS WELL AS OUR TEAM.
THEY WERE TAKING BUCKETS OF SOAPY WATER, THROWING IT OUT, BROOMING IT.
IT'S NOT GOING TO GET IT AS WELL AS THIS WILL, SO WE'RE WORKING ON THAT, BUT WE ANTICIPATE THAT BEING AN ADDITIONAL 20 HOURS A MONTH IF WE WERE TO INCLUDE THAT.
CUMULATIVELY, ABOUT 45 LABOR HOURS PER MONTH FOR ALL OF THAT FINE DETAIL WORK, AS WELL AS JUST A DEEPER LEVEL OF CLEAN IN THE OLD TOWN AREA.
WE HAVE A FEW OPTIONS WE'D PRESENT.
AS WE STATED A FEW SLIDES AGO, WE DO HAVE TWO PART TIME EMPLOYEES NOW.
THEY EACH WORK 19 HOURS A WEEK, AND THEY ONLY OVERLAP ON MONDAYS.
WE HAVE TWO OPTIONS TO CONSIDER.
WE COULD INCREASE THAT PART TIME EMPLOYEE TO AN ADDITIONAL EMPLOYEE.
WE WOULD HAVE THREE THAT WOULD COVER THE 19 HOURS THAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING.
THAT COST WOULD BE $16,796 ANNUALLY, OUR PART TIME SEASON OR OUR PART TIME REGULAR EMPLOYEES ARE NOT BENEFITED.
THE OTHER ALTERNATIVE WOULD BE TO INCREASE OUR WEEKDAY PART TIME EMPLOYEE TO A FULL TIME AND THEN KEEP THAT PART TIME EMPLOYEE ON THE WEEKENDS.
THAT IS A HIGHER COST BECAUSE IT DOES HAVE OUR BENEFITS PACKAGE AT ANNUALLY ABOUT $56,000.
>> WHEN WE HAVE SPECIAL SITUATIONS LIKE RIGHT NOW, CHRISTMAS DECOR IS UP.
WHO MAINTAINS THAT? BECAUSE I WAS HERE SATURDAY FOR THE FARMERS' MARKET, AND ONE OF THE BOWS FROM SOMETHING WAS STUFFED INTO THE SIDE OF THE TREE.
I WAS WONDERING ABOUT LIGHTING WHEN I WAS DOWN HERE BECAUSE WE WERE DOWN HERE ONE EVENING AND WE ATE AT ONE OF THE RESTAURANTS.
WHEN THERE'S SPECIAL THINGS, IN ADDITION TO WHAT THEY ALREADY HAVE ON THEIR LIST, IS THAT PART OF THE CONTRACT WE HAVE WITH THE DECORATING TEAM OR IS THAT COME TO STAFF?
ONE OF THE THINGS THE ISSUE THAT WE HAD THIS YEAR WAS THAT WATER WAS GETTING DOWN INTO THE LIGHT BOXES.
WE NOTICED EVERY EVENING WHEN WE WERE COMING DOWN BECAUSE WE DO AN ANNUAL LIGHT AUDIT OF ALL THE BIG LIGHTS.
BUT THE LIGHTS ON THE TREES THAT ARE HERE FOR DECORATION, NOTICED WATER WAS GETTING DOWN, SO WE HAD TO MAKE THAT REPAIR, AS FAR AS RESETTING THE DECORATIONS.
IF IT'S SOMETHING VISUAL AND EASY, OUR GUYS WILL DO IT.
IF NOT, WE'LL CALL IN OUR CONTRACTOR AND ASK THEM TO MAKE THOSE REPAIRS.
YOU'LL NOTICE AT THE BEGINNING OF THE SEASON, EVERYTHING IS BEAUTIFUL.
ALL THE BULBS ARE ON, ALL OF THE WREATHS, AND EVERYTHING LOOKS GREAT BY THE END OF THE SEASON.
THEY MIGHT LOOK A LITTLE BIT MORE YEAH, A LITTLE BIT MORE SPARING.
WE MAINTAIN THAT, BUT WE DO NOT BUDGET FOR REPLACEMENT OF THOSE THROUGHOUT THAT DECORATION SEASON.
WE HAVE AN ALLOTMENT, THAT WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL COST AS WELL.
>> WHEN LIGHT BULBS GO OUT, BECAUSE I THINK THE TREE AT THE BEGINNING HAS HIGH LIGHTS, LOW LIGHTS, ALL THINGS.
THEN TOWARD THE END, IT'S LIKE, IS THE TREE EVEN LIT ANYMORE?
>> THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE ON THEM.
THE TREE SHOULD STAY LIT. WE COULD REPAIR THAT.
>> THE STAFFING RECOMMEND, THE FULL RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO ACTUALLY INCREASE THAT PART TIME EMPLOYEE WHO'S HERE DURING THE WEEK TO FULL TIME.
IT GIVES US CONSISTENT COVERAGE.
IT ALLOWS US TO HAVE A CONSISTENT SET OF EYES AND EARS WORKING THAT SPACE.
TYPICALLY, OUR FULL TIME STAFF MEMBERS ARE MORE VESTED IN OUR ORGANIZATION AND OUR DEPARTMENT.
BUT OUR PART TIME EMPLOYEES ALSO ARE BREAD AND BUTTER.
THEY MAKE OUR WORLD GO AROUND IN PARKS AND RECREATION.
WE'RE OPEN TO EITHER RECOMMENDATION.
WE KNOW EITHER ONE WOULD HELP US GET MUCH FURTHER THAN WE ARE TODAY, AND WE KNOW THERE'S SOME BUDGETARY CONSTRAINTS TO CONSIDER.
BUT OUR STAFF RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE THE PROMOTION OF THAT ONE POSITION, AND THE IMPACTS ARE LISTED THERE.
>> JEN, I WANT TO PIGGYBACK OFF OF THAT.
THERE'S A NUMBER OF ELEMENTS IN THE PRESENTATION, AND PROBABLY NEED TO HEAR ALL OF IT BEFORE WE HAVE A BROADER DISCUSSION, BUT MANY OF THESE EXPENDITURES WOULD BE MOST LIKELY COMING FROM THE GENERAL FUND.
THERE ARE COMPETING INTERESTS, AND I JUST WANT TO BE MINDFUL OF THAT THAT I AGREE WITH JEN THAT ALL THINGS BEING EQUAL A FULL TIME POSITION, I THINK WOULD BE BETTER IN TERMS OF THE AESTHETICS.
BUT FROM A BUDGETARY ASPECT, PART TIME MIGHT BE A MORE COST EFFECTIVE WAY OF MEETING THE DELTA DIFFERENCE.
>> THAT'S WHERE I WAS AT, EITHER HIER AND A THIRD PART TIME PERSON OR EVEN A FOURTH.
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IF YOU NEEDED TO, BECAUSE THE DIFFERENCE IS 100 GRAND IF YOU DID FOUR PART TIME VERSUS TWO FULL TIME.>> I JUST DIDN'T WANT THERE TO BE AMBIGUITY ABOUT WHERE THE LIKELY FUNDING SOURCE WOULD BE. OKAY.
>> THEN, WE JUST WANTED TO STATE THAT WE HAVE IDENTIFIED THESE AREAS AS FUTURE BUDGET CONSIDERATIONS, SO YOU'LL SEE THOSE THROUGH THE BUDGET SEASON THIS YEAR OR EITHER INTERNALLY, WE HAVE A FIVE YEAR LOG OF PROJECT.
YOU MAY NOT SEE ALL OF THOSE THIS YEAR, BUT WE HAVE LOGGED THESE ITEMS SPECIFICALLY, WE'LL BE PROPOSING AN ADDITIONAL MULCH TOP OFF FOR THE PLAZA BEDS.
THAT'S A LITTLE OVER SIX GRAND EVERY SINGLE TIME WE DO IT.
WE'RE GOING TO BE PROPOSING REPLACEMENT OF THE BLACK ROCK AREAS WITH A SIMILAR AESTHETIC BLACK PAVER.
THAT'S JUST A MAINTENANCE NIGHTMARE FROM OUR SIDE, BUT WE WANTED TO KEEP THE AESTHETIC OF THE DIFFERENT TEXTURES AND COLORS.
LOOKING AT A PAVER TO REPLACE THOSE LANDSCAPE LIGHTING FIXTURE.
WE HAVE UP LIGHTING ON A LOT OF OUR TREES RIGHT NOW, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE NOTICED PEOPLE LIKE TO WALK THROUGH OUR FLOWER BEDS AND THEY KICK THEM A LOT.
WE WILL BE PROPOSING DOING A FLUSH MOUNT TO ALL OF THOSE MOVING FORWARD.
OUR WATER TOWER IS JUST GENERAL MAINTENANCE.
WE KNOW THAT THAT'S GOING TO NEED TO BE RESTINED IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS, AS WELL AS THE RAILING ON THE STAGE, AND THE PLAY STRUCTURE ITSELF, THE TRAIN CAR IS GOING TO NEED REFURBISHED.
WE THINK IT'S STILL GOT A LOT OF LIFE IN IT, BUT WE WILL HAVE TO HIRE A THIRD PARTY CONTRACTOR FOR THAT ONE TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S REFURBISHED PROPERLY.
THEN WE KNOW THAT OUR EXPANDED SCOPE WOULD BE THE ADDITIONAL STAFFING RECOMMENDATION.
SOME BIG CAPITAL ITEMS, OUR SYNTHETIC TURF TYPICALLY HAS A 10-15 YEAR WEAR, WE ARE ON YEAR SIX OF IT.
BASED ON ITS CURRENT CONDITIONS, WE SEE 8-10 YEARS, SO WE'LL BE PREPARING FOR THAT.
WE KNOW THAT COUNCIL HAS ASKED US TO PROPOSE SOME ADDITIONAL PLAY AMENITIES OR INTERACTIVE FEATURES TO REPLACE THE FOAM THAT CHILDREN REALLY LOVE.
PLAZA FURNITURE, IT'S JUST A HIGH USE AREA, WEAR AND TEAR, AND SO WE KNOW A LOT OF THE MATERIALS THAT WERE ORIGINALLY SELECTED ARE HOLDING UP GREAT, BUT THERE'S A FEW THAT WE WOULD PROBABLY CHANGE OUT TO A DIFFERENT MATERIAL THAT MAY BE A LITTLE BIT MORE STURDY.
WE ARE ALSO GOING TO LOOK AT CONSIDERING SHADE SALES OVER THE ELLISTON STREET PROMENADE.
LOOKING AT A WAY TO DO THAT, ESPECIALLY FOR FARMERS MARKET OR JUST HOW MANY EVENTS WE HAVE DOWN HERE, IT CAN GET A LITTLE STEAMY IN THE SUMMER MONTHS OR TEXAS ALL MONTHS.
SOME STAGED RAIL SUPPORTS, SO SOME ADDITIONAL SUPPORTS, AND THEN THE REPLACEMENT OF OUR CHEST SET.
NOW WE'RE SWITCHING INTO SOMETHING I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO KNOWLEDGE IN, BUT I AM REALLY EXCITED TO BRING TO YOU THIS EVENING IS STREET SWEEPING.
CURRENTLY, WE SWEEP THE OLD TOWN AREA APPROXIMATELY THREE TIMES A YEAR.
THAT ACTUAL SERVICE FREQUENCY IS DEPENDENT ON OUR AVAILABLE STAFFING AND THE EQUIPMENT UPTIME.
WHEN WE WORKED WITH PUBLIC WORKS ON THIS ONE, WE DID UNDERSTAND THAT THE STREET SWEEPER LAST YEAR HAD SOME SIGNIFICANT DOWNTIME, WHICH IS WHY IT'S CURRENTLY IN PRODUCTION TO BE REPLACED.
BUT EVEN IF IT WERE UP, IT COULD BE A CHALLENGE TO GET TO THAT THREE TIMES A YEAR.
INCREASING THAT FREQUENCY WOULD CORRESPOND WITH A REDUCTION IN SOMEWHERE ELSE.
WHEN IT IS UP, IT IS CONSTANTLY IN USE FOR THAT ENTIRE 40 HOURS A WEEK.
IF WE WERE TO INCREASE THE FREQUENCY IN OLD TOWN, THAT WOULD MEAN WE'RE DECREASING IT ELSEWHERE.
WE ALSO KNOW THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO SWEEP OLD TOWN PRIOR TO 7:00 AM JUST BECAUSE OF THE CAR.
WE WOULD BE PAYING SOME OVERTIME TO OUR STAFFING THERE JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN GET THESE AREAS DONE BEFORE PEOPLE START ROLLING IN IN THE MORNINGS.
HISTORICALLY, THE THREE TIMES A YEAR DID NOT INCLUDE ALLEYS OR PARKING LOTS.
IF YOU'VE NOTICED THAT, THAT WOULD BE WHY.
IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WAS TYPICALLY DONE.
BUT IT'S A LARGE SURFACE AREA FROM A PAVING STANDPOINT, 22.42 MILES, AND AN ADDITIONAL THOUSAND LINEAR FEET OF ALLEYWAY.
WE LOOKED AT THE OPPORTUNITY TO POTENTIALLY CONTRACT THE SERVICE.
THE SWING WAS RATHER LARGE, DEPENDING ON WHAT YOU'RE REALLY LOOKING FOR.
THEY LOOKED FOR SOME NON OFFICIAL QUOTES TO GET SOME COST RANGES.
THERE'S AN OFFICIAL TERM THAT'S PURCHASING LEGAL FOR THAT, BUT IT'S ESCAPING ME.
THE RANGE CAME BACK 78,000-217,000 DEPENDING ON THE SERVICE PROVIDER AND THE SCOPE THAT THEY WERE SCOPING OUT.
IF YOU WERE TO ADD JUST A ONCE A MONTH CYCLE, YOU WOULD LOOK AT THE LOW ESTIMATE CAME IN AROUND 9,000 OR THE HIGH SIDE WOULD BE 25,000.
OR YOU COULD DO 26 CYCLES PER YEAR, AND THAT WOULD BE 19,500 OR 54,000.
YOU COULD DO MORE THAN THAT OR LESS THAN THAT.
IF YOU REDUCE THE SCOPE, YOU WOULD ANTICIPATE AN INCREASE IN THAT INDIVIDUAL EVENT COST.
BUT THOSE ARE JUST SOME RANGES TO PROVIDE.
IF WE WERE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS, WE WOULD DO SEALED BID PROPOSALS AND BRING THAT BACK FOR AWARD TO COUNCIL.
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LASTLY, THIS EVENING, WE HAVE WASTE MANAGEMENT.BEFORE WE GET INTO THIS PART, I JUST WANT TO PREFACE THAT THIS WOULD BE STEP 1 TO THE CONVERSATION.
IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL WANTED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH EXPLORING, THERE'S ABOUT 20 MORE STEPS WE WOULD HAVE TO DO BEFORE THIS CAME TO FRUITION.
THAT WOULD INCLUDE REACHING OUT TO ALL OF THE BUSINESS OWNERS, GETTING THEIR BUY IN, UNDERSTANDING LOGISTICALLY THE SPECIFIC AREAS.
BUT CURRENTLY, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS JUST LOOKING AT WHERE OUR EXISTING DUMPSTERS ARE.
THEY'RE NOT OURS, WHERE THE EXISTING DUMPSTERS ARE LOCATED IN OLD TOWN, AND WE REACHED OUT TO OUR CURRENT WASTE MANAGEMENT TO DISCUSS WHAT OPTIONS WE HAVE AND SOME IMPLEMENTATION STRATEGIES IF WE WERE TO DO SO.
THE RED DOTS ON THIS MAP ARE WHERE YOU SEE THAT IT'S NOT THE TOTAL NUMBER, BUT IT'S JUST IDENTIFIED LOCATIONS OF WHERE OUR CURRENT DUMPSTERS WOULD BE OR.
HERE YOU SEE THAT WE'VE BROKEN IT UP INTO THREE ZONES FOR OLD TOWN, SO THE BUSINESSES WITHIN THAT ZONE WOULD USE THE DUMPSTERS THAT WE PROVIDED AS THE CITY AS AN OPTION.
ZONE 1 WOULD HAVE A 25 YARD SELF CONTAINED COMPACTOR.
ZONE 2 WOULD HAVE THREE VERTEPAC COMPACTORS TO REPLACE TWO EXISTING DUMPSTERS, AND ZONE 3 WOULD HAVE ONE VERTEPAC COMPACTOR.
IF YOU WERE TO DO THAT, YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE'S THE DIFFERENT CONTAINER TYPES, THE FREQUENCY THEY WOULD BE SERVED.
THE BIG THING WITH THIS IS THAT STAFF WOULD CONSOLIDATE WASTE MANAGEMENT TO THREE LOCATIONS.
THOSE WOULD BE SELF CONTAINED UNITS WITH CONTROLLED ACCESS.
BUSINESSES WOULD BE PROVIDED EITHER WITH A CODE OR A KEY FOB SO THAT THEY COULD ACCESS THE CONTROLLED AREA TO DUMP THEIR TRASH.
WASTE CONNECTIONS WAS ALSO OPEN TO PROVIDING BUSINESS CARTS, SO THAT THE BUSINESSES WOULDN'T TAKE THEIR TRASH AND DUMP IT OUTSIDE THEIR BUSINESS UNTIL THEY WERE ABLE TO TAKE IT TO A DUMPSTER, BUT THEY WERE ABSOLUTELY OPEN TO THAT.
YOU CAN SEE THAT THIS WOULD BE ON THE BURDEN OF THE CITY IF WE WERE TO IMPLEMENT THIS BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE PROPOSING, AND IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT BUSINESSES WOULD BE REQUIRED TO PARTICIPATE IN.
IT'S JUST SOMETHING IT'S A GOOD FAITH THING FOR US THAT THE CITY IS PROPOSING AS A WAY TO MITIGATE WHERE THE DUMPSTERS ARE AND CONTROL THE SMELL AND THE AESTHETIC OF IT.
THAT RANGED 103,000-122,000 A YEAR.
DID I GO BACKWARDS? THIS EVENING, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS A COUPLE OF AREAS, AND WE CAN GO BY AREA FOR FEEDBACK.
THE FIRST WOULD BE THE OLD TOWN MAINTENANCE AND STAFFING LEVEL, WHICH IS MANAGED BY THE PARKS TEAM, ENHANCED MAINTENANCE LEVELS, SO THAT SLIDE THAT I SHOWED THAT WOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED IF YOU JUST ADDED A PART TIME OR UPGRADED A FULL TIME, THOSE MAINTENANCE LEVELS, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL WOULD DESIRE TO MOVE FORWARD? REPLACEMENT AND REFURBISHMENT OF SOME OF THE ITEMS, IF THERE'S ANY PRIORITIES, WE'D LOVE TO HEAR WHAT THOSE ARE SO WE CAN PLAN ACCORDINGLY, STREET SWEEPING AND THEN THE WASTE MANAGEMENT.
>> WITH REGARDS TO THE WASTE MANAGEMENT, A COUPLE OF COMMENTS ON MY END, AS WELL.
OBVIOUSLY, IT'S A COSTLY ENDEAVOR.
IT IS AN OPT IN, SO WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO RESTRICT SOMEONE TO REQUIRE THEM TO USE IT.
THEY WOULD STILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO HAVE THEIR OWN DUMPSTER.
ULTIMATELY, IT'S A POLICY DECISION, I WOULD SAY IN THE EVENT THAT WE DID GO WITH COMPACTORS, AS JEN NOTED, WASTE CONNECTIONS OFFERED TO PROVIDE CARTS, BUT THERE'S STILL GOING TO BE CHALLENGES WITH THAT IN TERMS OF PEOPLE CARRYING THE TRASH TO THE COMPACTOR, AND THERE ARE VERY LIKELY BE INSTANCES WHERE PEOPLE PILE TRASH OUTSIDE OF THE CONTAINERS.
I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT EVEN IN THIS SCENARIO, THERE'S VERY LIKELY PROBABLY CHALLENGES ASSOCIATED WITH THE WASTE COLLECTIONS ASPECT OF IT.
>> THE ONE DUMPSTER THAT WE'RE SEEING IN THE ALLEYWAY ON HERE THAT COULD POTENTIALLY STILL STAY?
>> WHICH ONE ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? THE DUMPSTERS, WASTE MANAGEMENT?
>> WE CAN START WHERE ARE WE ARE.
>> AS FAR AS THE WASTE MANAGEMENT, THERE'S 12 DUMPSTERS IN THE AREA.
THEY'RE RESPECTFUL LOOKING. THEY HAVE NO ODORS.
THERE'S ONLY THREE IN THE CITY IN THE OLD TOWN THAT ARE ACTUALLY LEAKING.
THEY'RE NOT MAINTAINED, THERE'S TRASH AROUND THEM, AND THEY HAVE ODORS, PROBABLY FROM A DIFFERENT COMPANY BECAUSE THEY DON'T LOOK LIKE THIS ONE.
A LOT OF THE ODOR IS COMING FROM THE GREASE COLLECTORS AT SOME OF THESE RESTAURANTS, AND THEY'RE WHERE THOSE OTHER THREE DUMPSTERS ARE.
THE GREASE IS THROWN ALL OVER THE COLLECTORS ON THE GROUND AND EVERYWHERE ELSE.
I'M THINKING ENFORCEMENT ON THE LOCATIONS THAT ARE CAUSING THE ODOR AND STAND AWAY FROM THE COMPACTORS.
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WE'RE AT ZERO IN THAT BUDGET TIME RIGHT NOW.WE'RE BETWEEN BUDGETS, WHICH MEANS WE'RE NOT BUDGETED FOR ANY OF THAT.
I DON'T THINK THE CITIZENS NEED TO PAY ANYWAY IF THE NEGOTIATIONS DON'T GO THROUGH CORRECT FOR TRASH COMPACTORS, UNLESS THEY ALL GET TO USE IT.
BASICALLY, THE SAME STORY THERE.
YOU'RE DOING A GOOD JOB OF TAKING CARE OF IT NOW, I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY ISSUES.
BUT WE NEED TO STEP UP, I THINK TWO PART TIME EMPLOYEES, 4.5 A DAY GIVES YOU 9 HOURS A DAY, THAT'S MORE THAN ONE FULL TIME EMPLOYEE.
OF COURSE, YOU'LL HAVE 8 HOURS ON THE FIFTH DAY FOR THE FULL TIME, BUT THE TWO PART TIMES IS CONSIDERABLY LESS THAN ONE FULL TIME EMPLOYEE.
AND WE CAN DO THAT NOW UNTIL WE GET TO THE NEXT BUDGET SESSION AND THEN TALK ABOUT ONE OR TWO MORE FTES.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA.
>> WE HAVE TWO EXISTING. YOU MEAN ONE ADDITIONAL, SO THREE PART TIME? I DON'T IF YOU NEED TO GO TO TWO PART TIME, I'M OKAY WITH THAT TO GET THE WORK DONE.
IF YOU HAVE TO HAVE TWO TO GET THE AMOUNT OF WORK DONE, I KNOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A LOT OF WORK WITH ALL THE ACTIVITIES THAT ARE GOING ON, LIKE CARNIVAL AND STUFF LIKE THAT, CLEANING UP AFTER THAT.
THE PRESSURE WASHING, THE OTHER THINGS THAT YOU'RE ABLE TO DO.
I WOULD BE OKAY WITH TWO PART TIME.
IF YOU CAN DO IT WITH ONE NOW, AND THAT WOULD BE A WISE DECISION TO A BUDGET TIME.
THAT WOULD BE GREAT. BUT IF YOU NEED TWO PART TIME WOULD WORK ALSO.
AS FAR AS THE EVENTS THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT AND THE STREET SWEEPING, THINGS OF THAT NATURE, THERE'S AN WHAT IS IT RFQ OUT THERE NOW THAT'S COMING THROUGH WHERE WE'RE GETTING INFORMATION REQUESTED FOR HOW MUCH THAT WOULD COST, AND IT MAY GO BACK OUT FOR AN RFQ.
A LOT OF THE OVERLAPPING STUFF WILL BE DONE BY THE RFQ IF WE GO FOLLOW THROUGH WITH THAT IF COUNCIL DECIDES TO DO THAT ON THE STREET SWEEPING.
WE JUST NEED TO GET SOME OF THE GREASE CLEANED UP BEFORE WE START SWEEPING SOME OF THESE ALLEYS.
>> ON THE PART TIME, WE'RE TALKING, WE'VE GOT TWO RIGHT NOW, SO ONE ADDITIONAL WOULD BE A THIRD?
>> WE I'M OKAY ADDING A THIRD JUST TO GET THINGS DONE.
THE ALLEYWAYS WE NEED TO GET THOSE CLEANED UP BECAUSE THE ONE BETWEEN FRESCOES AND THE BREWERY IS VERY SLICK.
THAT NEEDS TO GET IT COULD BE A AND IT'S NOT ICY OUTSIDE, EITHER.
THE TRASH, I THINK THAT SHOULD BE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE BUSINESS.
BUT IF THERE'S THREE CULPRITS, THEN IS THERE ANY OF CODE COMPLIANCE, GETTING THE DUMPSTERS CLEANED UP.
>> I'VE RECEIVED SOME QUESTIONS FROM A COUNCIL MEMBER REGARDING SOME POSSIBLE VIOLATIONS.
THAT'S IN CODE'S HANDS AND SO WE WOULD BE COORDINATING AND INVESTIGATING WITH THAT, BUT THERE WOULD BE A CODE FUNCTION.
THEN IF THERE WERE MS4 VIOLATIONS, THEN PUBLIC WORKS COULD POTENTIALLY BE INVOLVED.
BUT WE'RE ALREADY LOOKING AND INVESTIGATING INTO THOSE CONCERNS.
>> BACK TO THE PART TIME, FOR $20,000, AND WE'RE ALREADY A QUARTER INTO THE NEW YEAR.
I THINK THAT'S WORTH DOING AND I KNOW IT HAD BEEN BROUGHT UP.
THE TWO TREES THAT ARE IN FRONT OF FRESCOES AND IN OLD TOWN.
THE BIRDS SEEM TO LIKE TO ROOST THERE AND LOTS OF DROPPINGS AND THINGS ON THE GROUND.
MY QUESTION IS, WHAT ARE Y'ALL'S THOUGHTS ON JUST CUTTING THE TREES DOWN?
BECAUSE LEAVE THE OTHER TREES UP IN OLD TOWN THAT DIDN'T SEEM TO BE A PROBLEM, BUT RIGHT CONGREGATE RIGHT IN FRONT OF A RESTAURANT WAITING FOR THEIR FOOD AND IT'S BIT TOUGH ON THE GROUND.
YOU CAN BY THE TIME YOU SEE BIRD DROPPINGS ALL OVER.
I HAD A LADY THAT WALKED AROUND IT, TOLD HER KIDS TO GET OFF THE BENCHES.
TOM HE'S GETTING IT DONE, BUT THERE'S STILL YELLOW TAPE AROUND ONE.
ANOTHER ONE THAT'S BROKE ALREADY.
IT'S DANGEROUS. DON'T FORGET MAIN STREET.
BECAUSE OLD TOWN WILL DIE IF YOU DON'T, BECAUSE PEOPLE JUST LIKE YOU HAD I THINK THE SLIDE AFTER THIS, IF YOU GO BACK. LOOK AT THE BENT.
DO WE NOT HAVE ANY CONTROL OVER THE TRASH OF THAT BUILDING RIGHT BELOW THAT COWBOY? I WENT BY THERE ONE TIME.
THERE'S TWO TRASH BARRELS RIGHT OUT IN FRONT OF THAT BUSINESS ON THE SIDEWALK.
AND PEOPLE ARE WALKING BY THAT AND HAVING TO SMELL IT.
AND NOT COMING BACK TO BURLESON, BECAUSE THAT'S HOW NASTY IT LIVES.
I'VE NEVER SEEN A CITY WITH TRASH ON THE SIDEWALK WHERE PEOPLE HAVE TO WALK BY TO GET TO A BUSINESS.
EXCUSE ME I'M A LITTLE BIT FIRED UP ABOUT THIS.
HOW ABOUT INSTEAD OF PART TIME,
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THE JOB GOES 6 TO 1, 6 TO 2, 5:00 IN THE MORNING IF THEY WANT A JOB THERE'S PLENTY OF WORK STREETS, NOBODY'S DOWN THERE AT THAT TIME.GO DOWN AND CLEAN UP MAIN STREET.
BLOW OFF THE SIDEWALKS EVERY DAY, CLEAN THE BENCHES EVERY DAY.
IT NEEDS TO BE DONE, GET IT DONE.
INSTEAD OF JUST IGNORING IT AND LETTING IT GO.
WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR A MONTH, AND IT HASN'T GOTTEN ANY BETTER.
WE WALKED UP THE OTHER DAY TO FRESCOES AND IT WAS NASTY.
THE ONLY THING I SAW SOMEBODY, WHOEVER IT WAS, GOD BLESS THEM, PUT AN OWL UP IN THE TREE, SCARE THE HECK OUT OF BIRDS. MAYBE THAT'LL WORK.
I DON'T KNOW BUT IT DOESN'T SEEM TO, BECAUSE IT'S NASTY.
SO I'M JUST I'M IN FAVOR OF THE PART TIME.
>> WE DEFINITELY NEED TO ADD STAFF PEOPLE BECAUSE TWO PART THERE'S THIS IT'S EXPANDED.
THEY USED TO COVER JUST THE PLAZA, AND NOW THEY COVER SO MUCH MORE, RIGHTFULLY SO, WE IN BURLESON ARE SO LUCKY TO HAVE THIS AREA, OLD TOWN.
AND WE NEED TO TAKE PRIDE IN IT, AND WE NEED TO TAKE OWNERSHIP OF IT.
OR IF WE DON'T, IT'S GOING TO GO AWAY.
I WANT TO SEE SIGNS LIKE I SEE FOR RAULET AND OTHERS THAT HAVE SIMILAR TYPES OF DEVELOPMENTS THAT SAY, COME VISIT HERE.
I KNOW BANES HAS A FOLLOWING, BUT LET THERE IS NO WAY FINDING INFORMATION TO SAY, WE HAVE AN OLD TOWN, AND THESE ARE THE AWESOME THINGS THAT YOU CAN COME DO HERE.
SHOP, EAT THERE'S I LOVE SPENDING TIME IN OLD TOWN, BUT IT'S GROSS, IT STINKS.
IF WE WERE STAYING ON TOP OF THE POWER WASHING, THOSE SMELLS COULD POTENTIALLY BE WASHED AWAY.
BUT WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE PEOPLE THE PEOPLE THAT THE AMOUNT OF TIME TO DO IT ALL.
AND I RECOGNIZE THAT. WE HAVE SPREAD OUT ALL THAT THEY ARE COVERING.
BUT ALSO I DON'T KNOW I USED TO SEE THE SAME GENTLEMAN WORKING ALMOST EVERY SINGLE DAY, AND I DON'T SEE HIM ANYMORE.
BUT IT'S DO WE HAVE THE SAME STAFF? DO THEY UNDERSTAND THE TREASURE THAT WE TRULY HAVE IN OLD TOWN? SOME OF THAT JUST COMES TO TAKING PRIDE IN YOUR JOB AND AND OWNERSHIP OF WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND ACKNOWLEDGING WE JUST WE TRULY HAVE A GYM IN OLD TOWN, AND IF WE DON'T TAKE CARE OF IT, WE'RE GOING TO LOSE IT.
THESE BUSINESSES WILL GO AWAY.
RIGHT NOW, WE'RE HIGHLY SOUGHT, BUT IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO STAY THAT WAY.
I AM COMPLETE AGREEMENT AND ADDING AN ADDITIONAL PART TIME, POTENTIALLY THE SECOND PART TIME.
WHAT IS IT GOING TO TAKE TO COVER? HOW DO WE GET LIKE PHIL SAYING? WE KNOW PARK PEOPLE ARE THERE.
THERE'S BUSINESSES, AND PEOPLE HAVE TO GET TO WORK.
IS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN DO THINGS EARLIER IN THE MORNING SO THAT IT'S ALREADY CLEAN, BUT ALSO CIRCLING BACK IN THE AFTERNOON WHEN THESE BUSINESSES HAVE BEEN UP AND RUNNING FOR A LITTLE WHILE, JUST CLEANING IT AND PUTTING FORTH SOME ELBOW GREASE BECAUSE IT'S JUST ABOUT TAKING PRIDE IN OUR COMMUNITY.
LIKE, THINGS LIKE CHRISTMAS DECOR GETS SET UP AND AT THE BEGINNING, IT'S FRESH AND BEAUTIFUL, AND THEN TOWARD THE END, IT LOOKS HAGGARD.
WELL, THAT'S NOT BUT IF I CAME DECEMBER 1ST, AND IF I'M STILL DROPPING BY AT THE BEGINNING OF JANUARY, I WANT TO SEE THE SAME THING.
IT JUST SAYS SOMETHING ABOUT OUR TOWN.
WE HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF WHAT'S OURS.
I AM COMPLETE AGREEMENT THAT WE NEED TO DEPART I DON'T REALLY THINK A FULL TIME PERSON.
I THINK PART TIME AS LONG AS IT'S ROTATING AND OVERLAPPING AND THINGS ARE GETTING TAKEN CARE OF? THE MAINTENANCE LEVELS, I AM IN COMPLETE AGREEMENT ABOUT HAVING MORE OF THE POWER WASHING, STREET SWEEPING.
I KNOW THE TRUCK WAS OUT OF COMMISSION FOR A LITTLE WHILE, BUT IS THERE A POSSIBILITY WORKING WITH PUBLIC WORKS THAT WE CAN GET THEM THERE AT AN EARLIER TIME, SO IT'S CLEANED OUT.
MAIN STREET AND THE WASTE STUFF IS IT'S SOMEWHAT IN OUR HANDS AND SOME WHAT NOT.
BUT I COMPLETELY AGREE WE SHOULD LOOK FOR OPPORTUNITY.
WHAT STANDARDS ARE WE HOLDING PEOPLE TO? AND EVERYONE THAT HAS A BUSINESS HERE SHOULD TAKE OWNERSHIP OF IT, TOO.
DO YOU REALLY WANT A SMELLY DUMPSTER NEXT TO YOUR RESTAURANT? BECAUSE THAT SAYS SOMETHING ABOUT YOU, JUST AS MUCH AS US CARING FOR THESE PUBLIC SPACES SAYS ABOUT US AS A CITY.
I WOULD JUST LIKE FOR US TO REALLY OWN THIS SPACE.
>> I WAS GOING TO BRING UP THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM, BUT VICTORIA HIT ON PART OF IT.
THE CITY DOES. WE BRING IN A LOT OF TOURISM.
ALEX DOES A LOT, SHOP IN BURLESON.
THE TIF HAS HELPED TREMENDOUSLY IN DEVELOPING OLD TOWN TO BRING IN MORE BUSINESS.
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I THINK IT'S TIME THAT THE BUSINESSES PARTNERED WITH BURLESON AND NOT UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S NOT OUR COMPLETE RESPONSIBILITY TO GO OUT THERE AND CLEAN THE BENCHES IN THE SIDEWALKS.I GOT OUT THERE AND SWEPT THE SIDEWALK IN FRONT OF THE DOORS.
I SEE A LOT OF SHOP OWNERS GO OUT AND SWEEP THE SIDEWALK IN FRONT OF THEIR FRONT DOOR.
THERE'S NO REASON THAT WE CAN'T PARTNER UP AND THEY CAN'T GO OUT THERE AND SWEEP THE SIDEWALKS AND CLEAN SOME OF THE BENCHES THAT ARE IN FRONT OF THEIR BUSINESSES INSTEAD OF COMPLAINING ABOUT IT.
NOW, I APPRECIATE EVERY BUSINESS WE HAVE THERE, BUT IT WOULD JUST TAKE A FEW MINUTES TO DO THAT EVERY MORNING, AND IT WOULD SAVE THE CITY A LOT OF HARTBURN, HAVING TO GO AROUND AND TAKE CARE OF ALL THIS BEFORE PEOPLE COME TO WORK.
>> I WAS PRETTY IMPRESSED WHEN ERIC HAD THE TOWN HALL MEETINGS ON THE DRAINAGE AND STUFF.
I NEED TO KNOW PEOPLE COUNSEL'S OPINION ON BRINGING EVERYBODY TOGETHER.
ALL THESE OWNERS THAT HAVE THESE BUSINESSES.
LET'S SET THEM DOWN, LET'S SAY, WE APPRECIATE THE ONES JUST DOING THIS, BUT HOW ARE WE GOING TO HANDLE THAT? WE NEED TO PUT THE BURDEN ON THE BUSINESSES TO TAKE CARE OF SOME OF THIS.
COMMUNICATION IS EVERYTHING IN MY OPINION.
WHAT DO Y'ALL THINK ABOUT BRINGING THE OWNERS TOGETHER? IF WE WANT TO FEED THEM, WE WILL, I DON'T KNOW WHICH RESTAURANT WE'LL PICK, BUT WE NEED TO GET IN FRONT OF THEM AND SAY, LISTEN, YOU'LL NEED TO STEP UP ON THIS.
WE'RE GETTING TOO MANY COMPLAINTS.
IT STINKS AND NEEDS TO BE TAKEN CARE OF.
IT'S A SHAME THAT IT'S ONLY THREE OF THEM THAT'S GETTING AWAY WITH IT.
IT'S NOT FAIR TO THE OTHERS, BUT I THINK WE EXPOSE THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM.
>> WELL, I THINK YOU LIKE YOU SAID, COMMUNICATION IS ALWAYS KEY AND HOW YOU APPROACH THINGS.
BUT WE'RE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER.
WE WANT THESE BUSINESSES TO BE SUCCESSFUL.
WE'RE APPRECIATIVE THAT THEY'RE HERE, BUT PEOPLE AREN'T GOING TO CONTINUE TO COME BACK IF IT'S NOT WELL MAINTAINED.
IT'S PARTNERSHIP. WE ALL HAVE TO GIVE AND TAKE AND UNDERSTAND WE HAVE SOME STAKE IN THIS, BUT WE CAN'T DO IT ALONE.
>> THE THREE LOCATIONS THAT ARE PUTTING OUT ORDER, THAT'S FROM MY RESEARCH.
THAT'S NOT THE CITY. THE CITY DIDN'T SAY THAT. THAT'S FROM ME.
>> JUST I GUESS A COUPLE OF MORE THINGS.
ONE, IF PEOPLE HAVE HEARTBURN ON CUTTING THE TREES DOWN, THEY DO MAKE NETS FOR THE TREES THAT YOU CAN PUT ON THEM TO KEEP THE BIRDS OUT.
BUT WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S AESTHETICALLY PLEASING, I DON'T KNOW.
BUT AND SECOND, I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED KNOWING ABOUT THE TURF IN THE PLAZA, BECAUSE IF THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE A 15 YEAR TURF, BUT IT'S ONLY EIGHT TO TEN YEARS.
COACH HOWDS THE TURF IN THE FOOTBALL FIELD.
>> YES. IS IT BECAUSE OF THE TRAFFIC OR IS IT JUST THAT THEY'RE NOT MAINTAINING IT ENOUGH OR.
>> NO, IT'S IT'S BECAUSE OF THE TRAFFIC.
>> IT'S A REALLY HIGH USE AREA EVEN IF WE FLUFFED IT EVERY DAY AND REFILLED IT EVERY MONTH, IT WOULD STILL WEAR DOWN.
>> YOU GO DOWN THERE IN EVENING TIMES ANYTIME, AND MY WIFE AND I WERE DOWN HERE LAST WEEK AND THE PLAZA IS FULL OF A LOT OF PEOPLE.
THE BIG KIDS ARE PLAYING FOOTBALL ON IT.
THE LITTLE KIDS ARE TRYING NOT TO GET RUN OVER.
I WISH WE HAD A PARK, PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT IN BETWEEN WHERE THEY MOVE I SAW PEOPLE MOVING TABLES AND CHAIRS OUT SO LITTLE KIDS CAN PLAY IN THAT AREA.
YOU HAVE A COUPLE OF LITTLE THINGS OVER THERE, BUT NOT QUITE ENOUGH FOR PARENTS WITH LITTLE TINY KIDS, BUT LARRY, ON THE THING ABOUT, I AGREE WITH THE BUSINESSES EACH STEP UP.
WHEN I OWN, WE DON'T OWN ANYMORE.
THE BUILDING DOWNTOWN, EVERY DAY.
I WAS OUT CLEANING THAT THING, EVERY DAY.
I CLEANED IT UP, PUT IT IN THE TRASH, HAULED IT OFF.
BUT I THINK THE CITY OWNS A LITTLE BIT OF THAT RESPONSIBILITY, NOT ALL, BUT A LITTLE BIT, BECAUSE I DID CHECK ON WITH TOMMY AND TOMMY'S DOING A GREAT JOB AND ERIC ON WHO THOSE BENCHES BELONG TO IN FRONT OF FRESCOES.
I THINK WE CAME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT IT WAS THE CITY'S.
IT'S NOT FRESCOES'S RESPONSIBILITY FOR THOSE BENCHES.
I THOUGHT I LOOKED AT FRESCOES ONE TIME.
HE SAID, WELL, IS FOR MINE AND I'LL JUST KNOCK THEM DOWN.
BECAUSE THE BIRD STUFF ON ONE OF THEM WAS JUST RIDICULOUS.
YOU COULDN'T SIT ON IT IF YOU WANTED TO.
BUT THEN NOW THERE'S TWO OR THREE OF THEM BROKE, AND IT REALLY LOOKS BAD, AND THAT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY.
>> IF THEY'RE BROKE, UNSANITARY, UNSAFE, AND THEY GET DIRTY DURING THE DAY, THEN MAYBE WE SHOULD REMOVE THEM.
>> PUT SOME BENCHES THERE, SO SOME CHAIRS OR SOMETHING SOME PEOPLE CAN SIT ON.
I AGREE WITH YOU. I DO AWAY WITH IT.
>> WHAT ARE THE PROBLEM THOSE BENCHES, THEY WERE NEVER A VERY GOOD DESIGN.
THEY WERE MADE OUT OF A CONCRETE CORE WITH A THIN VENEER BRICK AROUND THEM, AND THEN THE CASTONE SLABS ON TOP.
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THE CASTONE SLABS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN A PROBLEM.THEY GET HIT, THEY GET BROKEN, THEY COME LOOSE, AND THEY'RE ONLY TIED DOWN I GUESS WHAT I WAS GETTING AT IS, I THINK THE BENCHES SERVE A PURPOSE BECAUSE PEOPLE DO SIT OUT ON THEM WAITING FOR TABLES AT FRESCOES.
BUT I THINK THEY COULD BE RENOVATED BY REMOVING ALL THE CASTONE STUFF AND JUST SETTING AND FORMING UP A CONCRETE OVER IT.
BASICALLY, IT BECOMES JUST A PIECE OF CONCRETE, WHICH IS STILL GOING TO SERVE THE SAME PURPOSE.
PERHAPS ISN'T QUITE AS ATTRACTIVE, BUT WOULD LOOK BETTER BECAUSE IT'S NOT GOING TO BE BROKEN ALL THE TIME, AND COULD BE BUILT BETTER THAN IT IS WITHOUT A WHOLE LOT OF EXPENSE.
AS FAR AS THE TREES GO, I WOULDN'T BE OPPOSED TO REMOVING.
THERE'S ONLY TWO TREES THAT ARE A PROBLEM.
WE'D STILL HAVE THE LANDSCAPE BED AREA, JUST KNOCK THE TREES.
I THINK IT'S AN ARGUMENT TO BE MADE THAT THE TREES DON'T REALLY BEAUTIFY MUCH.
IN FACT, THE BUILDINGS THEMSELVES ARE FAIRLY ATTRACTIVE.
THEY'RE KEPT WELL, AND THEY LOOK GOOD.
THEY RESIGNED WELL AND RENOVATED WELL.
I DON'T THINK THE TREES ADD A WHOLE LOT.
I WOULDN'T BE OPPOSED AT ALL TO TAKING THOSE TWO TREES DOWN.
I THINK THOSE ARE THE ONLY TWO THAT CAUSE THIS PROBLEM.
>> IS THERE ANYONE THAT WANTS TO SAVE THE TREES? THAT'S A SIMPLE ONE, RIGHT THERE.
>> WE CAN PLANT TWO TREES SOMEWHERE ELSE.
THEY ALSO GET A LOT OF TRAFFIC BY THEM, AROUND THEM.
MY KIDS SWING AROUND THEM AND DO EVERYTHING.
THEY'RE PITILY AND THEY'RE SAD, AND THEY CREATE A LOT OF GROSSNESS.
NO ONE WANTS TO SIT ANYWHERE NEAR IT OR WALK NEAR IT.
YOU DON'T WANT TO PARK UNDER IT, IT'S DISGUSTING.
THOSE TWO TREES, BUT WE CAN DO SOMETHING ELSE WITH THOSE.
THINKING ABOUT LANDSCAPING, BEST LAY PLANS.
I THINK THAT THERE WERE GOOD INTENTIONS WITH A LOT OF THE AREA IN THE PLAZA AND SURROUNDING, BUT ANYTHING WITH LITTLE PEBBLES AND ALL OF THAT, I WATCH KIDS TAKE ALL THOSE LITTLE BLACK ROCKS AND PUT THEM ALL OVER THE TURF, AND I'M LIKE, DON'T DO THAT, PLEASE PUT THAT BACK.
BUT YOU COULD SIT THERE AND MONITOR ALL DAY LONG.
EVEN ADULTS WALK THROUGH THERE AND THEY GET KICKED BACK INTO THE TURF, AND YOU COULD SPEND HOURS PICKING ALL OF THAT OUT.
WE HAVE TO PUT SOME MONEY TOWARD CHANGING THINGS OUT JUST TO MAKE IT MAKE MORE SENSE.
KEEP THE AESTHETICS, BUT THIS STUFF DOESN'T WORK IN THIS SPACE WITH THIS AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC.
>> COUNCIL, THIS IS A GREAT DISCUSSION, ROBUST DISCUSSION, AND THEN WE APPRECIATE THE FEEDBACK.
I WANT TO GO THROUGH AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GOING TO CAPTURE EXACTLY WHAT THE COUNCIL WANTS US TO DO.
JEN, IF YOU WOULD GO BACK TO SLIDE 5.
>> THAT'S THE ONE THAT SHOWS YOUR CURRENT MAINTENANCE GOALS RIGHT BEFORE YOUR CAPACITY TABLE.
TO BE CLEAR, RIGHT NOW, THESE TASKS THAT DON'T INCLUDE SOME OF THE POWER WASHING AND SOME OF THE ENHANCED THINGS THAT I'M HEARING THE COUNCIL TALK ABOUT, IT WOULD TAKE ONE ADDITIONAL PART-TIME EMPLOYEE TO BE ABLE TO FILL THE GAP TO DO THESE FUNCTIONS AT THIS FREQUENCY.
IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THE MORE ENHANCED ASPECTS, THEN THAT'S WHEN YOU GO INTO THE SECOND PART-TIME EMPLOYEE.
I DON'T WANT TO LEAVE HERE HEARING THAT ONE-TIME, PART-TIME EMPLOYEE, BUT THINKING THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF THINGS THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF THE SCOPE.
I WANT TO PAUSE THERE FOR A MOMENT AND JUST ASK IF THERE'S DIRECTION ON ONE PART-TIME VERSUS TWO PART-TIME EMPLOYEES.
>> WHAT IF WE DID ONE NOW, BUT THEN YOU'VE GOT SOUNDS OF THE SUMMER COMING UP AND THE HONEY TOUR AND ALL THAT, AND WE DO A SECOND ONE FOR MAY-JULY?
>> SEASONAL BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A CONCERT EVERY WEEKEND, OR EVERY FRIDAY NIGHT AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
>> BECAUSE THINKING ALONE ABOUT THE REST ROOM CLEANING, YOU HAVE TO THINK THEY COME THROUGH IN THE MORNING, AND THE REST OF THAT DAY WHEN THE ELEMENTARY DOWN THE STREET HAS A WALKING FIELD TRIP.
THEY DO THAT FREQUENTLY, AND THEY BRING DOWN A WHOLE HERD OF THIRD GRADER, FOURTH GRADERS.
I WAS GETTING CALLS ABOUT, IT JUST GETS A LOT OF USE. WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO? ANOTHER THING THAT CAME UP ABOUT THAT IS, DID WE USED TO HAVE A WATER FOUNTAIN OUTSIDE, AND NOW WE NO LONGER DO?
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>> SOMETHING TO MULL OVER. [OVERLAPPING]
>> IT WOULD FEEL LIKE THEY'VE TAKEN ONE OUT.
>> NOW WE LOCK CITY HALL DOORS, AND THERE ISN'T A WATER FOUNTAIN.
THAT USED TO BE WHERE PEOPLE WOULD COME TO GET WATER, AND NOW THERE ISN'T A WATER FOUNTAIN OUTSIDE.
WHEN THE KIDDOS OR FAMILY, ANYONE'S DOWN HERE AND YOU'RE LIKE, NOW THERE ARE PLACES YOU CAN VISIT TO PURCHASE, BUT JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.
WE DON'T HAVE A WATER FOUNTAIN.
>> THAT IS A NOTE, EXPLORE IT.
I HEARD ONE PART-TIME EMPLOYEE AND ONE SEASONAL.
WE CAN DO THAT IN THE PERIODS OF TIME WHERE THERE'S NOT THAT ADDITIONAL SEASONAL EMPLOYEE.
THE ADDITIONAL TASKS WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO BE PERFORMED WITH THE THREE PART-TIME EMPLOYEES.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE MEETING THE COUNCIL EXPECTATION.
>> THE CURRENT MAINTENANCE GOALS, THESE ARE THE-
>> THAT'S THE CURRENT MAINTENANCE GOALS. [OVERLAPPING]
>> THAT YOU NEED THE THIRD PERSON TO MEET THIS.
>> THEN THE ENHANCED STUFF, YOU NEED THE FOURTH PART-TIME.
>> OR IF IT WERE SEASONAL OR HOWEVER THE COUNCIL WANTS TO VIEW IT.
THE COMMENT, COUNCIL MEMBER JOHNSON, YOU HAD MADE ABOUT TURNOVER AND THINGS OF THAT AND CONTINUITY OF EMPLOYEES, WE'RE FORTUNATE TO HAVE A PRETTY GOOD RETENTION RATE, BUT WE SEE MORE TURNOVER WITH PART-TIME EMPLOYEES.
WHEN WE PUT THE PRESENTATION TOGETHER, IN THE BUDGET SIDE OF ME, I WANT TO BE VERY COGNIZANT OF THE FACT THAT I FEEL LIKE WE CAN DO THIS WITH TWO PART-TIME EMPLOYEES.
BUT THERE IS AN ELEMENT OF CONTINUITY AND OWNERSHIP THAT YOU WOULD PROBABLY HAVE.
WE HAVE FANTASTIC PART-TIME EMPLOYEES, BUT YOU MIGHT GET BETTER CONTINUITY WITH THE FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES.
I WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT THAT'S WHY WE PUT THAT IN THERE, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY FILL THE GAP.
THAT'S FIVE PART-TIME EMPLOYEES.
>> IF WE PUT ON TWO PART-TIME EMPLOYEES AND WE HAVE TURNOVER, THEN WE'VE GOT THAT EXTRA PART-TIME EMPLOYEE TO COVER THE GAP TILL WE GET ANOTHER ONE HIRED.
>> ABSOLUTELY, WHICH IS WHY WE PUT THE OPTION IN OF PART-TIME BECAUSE IF IT'S FROM A GENERAL FUND PERSPECTIVE, IT'S HARD FOR ME TO RECOMMEND DOING THE FULL TIME TRANSITION.
>> I THINK JUST TO BE ABLE TO MEET THE CURRENT MAINTENANCE GOALS IS GOING TO BE A HUGE IMPROVEMENT OVER WHAT IS NOW.
THEN IF WE COULD DO THE SEASONAL, AND THEN SEE HOW IT IS, BECAUSE YOU'LL BE ABLE TO TEST AND SEE IF THIS ENHANCED STUFF IS WORKING, THEN YOU COULD CONTINUE.
THEN IT'LL BE BUDGET TIME, AND WE CAN DETERMINE WHETHER THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN.
>> JEN, I'M I MISSING ANYTHING WITH REGARDS TO THAT APPROACH?
>> NO, SIR. I THINK FROM A TIMING PERSPECTIVE, JUST UNDERSTANDING OUR PROCESS IS WE WOULD HAVE TO SOLICIT FOR THAT POSITION AND FILL IT.
EVEN IF YOU GUYS SAY YAY TONIGHT, IT'LL BE MID FEBRUARY OR SO BEFORE WE HAVE THAT POSITION FILLED, AND THEN WE TYPICALLY START SOLICITING FOR SUMMER HELP IN MARCH OR APRIL, SO THEY WOULD START IN MAY.
>> ANY OTHER FEEDBACKS FROM COUNCIL WITH REGARDS TO THE PART-TIME POSITIONS?
>> ON THE PART-TIME POSITION, IF WE JUST PUT UP ONE, AND ONE OF THEM QUITS OR THAT ONE DOESN'T LAST, WHAT'S THE NORMAL TIME TO HIRE ANOTHER ONE AND GET THEM BROKE IN?
>> COUPLE OF MONTHS. DO YOU HAVE ANOTHER EMPLOYEE YOU CAN BRING IN IN THE MEANTIME? I HATE TO LEAVE A GAP THERE.
[OVERLAPPING] IT'S CRITICAL AS IT IS.
>> SURE. WE'RE NO, WE BACK FILL WITH THE REST OF OUR TEAM, SO IT JUST WATERS DOWN OUR EXISTING TEAM.
WE'RE DOWN ONE POSITION RIGHT NOW IN THE PLAZA, AND SO THAT'S HOW WE'RE MANAGING IT IS COVERING IT WITH ADDITIONAL SYSTEM FROM THE REST OF OUR TEAM.
LUCKILY, WE'RE NOT MOWING SEASON, SO WE'RE ABLE TO MANAGE THAT.
IT JUST LOWERS HOW MANY WINTER WORK PROJECTS WE COMPLETE.
WE HAVE LOOKED AT BRINGING IN SOMEONE, CONTRACT SHORT TERM, BUT BY THE TIME WE GET THEM ONBOARDED AND UP TO SPEED, WE COULD HAVE FILLED THE ROLE.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER SCOTT, TO YOUR POINT, AND AS JEN STATED, AT WHAT FIRES BURNING THE HOTTEST, SO WE MAY SHIFT AN EMPLOYEE OVER TO HELP WITH THE PLAZA, BUT THERE MAY BE INSTANCES AND TIMES LATER THE YEAR IN GROWING SEASON WHERE THAT POSITION IS HELD VACANT AND BECAUSE WE NEED THE PART-TIME POSITION SOMEWHERE ELSE.
IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE SO RIGID THAT WE WOULDN'T SHIFT SOMEBODY OVER TO HELP FILL THE GAP, BUT IT'S JUST WHAT'S GOING ON AT THAT MOMENT, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
>> THAT MAKES MY POINT WHY WE NEED TO LET THAT OTHER EMPLOYEE GET BACK TO THEIR BUSINESS.
>> THAT WAY, IF IT TAKES TWO MONTHS TO GET THEM ON BOARDED, THEN THE SECOND ONE AND THE FIRST ONE THAT WE HIRE ARE NOT GOING TO BE HERE WITH MOWING SEASON ANYWAY.
>> IT'S STILL CHEAPER TO DO TWO PART-TIME VERSUS UPGRADING ONE TO A FULL TIME, SO WE'LL JUST DO THE TWO THEN.
>> TWO, WE'LL SOLICIT FOUR CURRENTLY, NOT A SEASON?
>> I GUESS THREE BECAUSE YOU'RE DOWN ONE.
>> I WASN'T GOING TO SAY THAT. [LAUGHTER] I HAD A LOT.
>> THAT DOESN'T COME FROM A BUDGET STANDPOINT.
FUNCTIONALLY, HOW WE'LL HANDLE THIS IS THAT ADMINISTRATIVELY, I WILL GIVE JEN THE GREEN LIGHT TO ESSENTIALLY DOUBLE FILL EXISTING VACANT POSITIONS, AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK WITH A BUDGET AMENDMENT.
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I DON'T WANT TO HOLD UP THE PROCESS TO COME BACK AND ASK FOR THE BUDGET ADJUSTMENT.WE'LL PROCEED, AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK WITH THE BUDGET ADJUSTMENT.
THE NEXT THING THAT I WANT TO TOUCH ON IS TRASH BECAUSE I THINK WE HAVE SOME CONSISTENCY THERE IS THAT START OUT BY ADDRESSING THIS THROUGH ENHANCED ENFORCEMENT OR FOLLOWING UP ON THESE ISSUES.
BUT AT THIS TIME, THERE'S NOT NECESSARILY A DESIRE, PER SAY, TO PURSUE THE COMPACTOR ROUTE.
>> THAT MAY ULTIMATELY IN TURN RESULT IN SOME STAFF ENGAGEMENT WITH THE BUSINESS OWNERS IN TERMS OF EXPECTATIONS AND HOW WE CAN PARTNER TOGETHER AND WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE, SO MORE OFFLINE DISCUSSIONS WE NEED TO HAVE WITH REGARDS TO THAT, BUT I THINK WE HAVE DIRECTION THERE.
WITH REGARDS TO STREET SWEEPING, I THINK A COUPLE OF POINTS OF CLARIFICATION.
WHAT WE ASKED FOR WAS INFORMAL REQUEST FOR QUOTES FOR A FREQUENCY THAT WAS, I BELIEVE, ERIC, WHAT WAS THAT, TWICE A WEEK?
>> YES, SIR. IT'D BE SWEEPING FRIDAY MORNINGS AND THEN MONDAY MORNING.
>> WHAT YOU SAW IN THE PRESENTATIONS WERE ESTIMATE BASED ON THAT FREQUENCY IF WE SCALED THAT BACK.
THOSE ARE NOT REAL QUOTES, THOSE ARE NOT REAL NUMBERS.
WE WOULD HAVE TO SOLICIT THAT.
WE ABSOLUTELY COULD HAVE PUBLIC WORKS TAKE ON ADDITIONAL SWEEPING RESPONSIBILITIES, BUT THAT MEANS THEY'RE GOING TO BE DOING LESS ELSEWHERE.
THE OTHER ISSUE TOO IS BASED ON THE HOURS THAT THEY WORK VERSUS THE HOURS WHEN WE WOULD NEED TO SWEEP, WE WOULD BE INCURRING OVERTIME.
AS A RESULT, IT'S LIKELY MORE COST-EFFECTIVE TO LOOK FOR A SOLICITATION THAT WOULD BE THROUGH A THIRD PARTY.
>> BUT RIGHT NOW, WE DO THREE TIMES A YEAR?
>> CORRECT, AND THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE ALLEYS OR PARKING LOT.
>> I WOULD JUST SAY, EVEN IF WE DID ONCE A MONTH FOR THE 12, JUST TO START WITH, AND INCLUDED THE ALLEYS IN THE PARKING LOTS, THAT'D BE A GOOD START.
>> WHAT WE WOULD DO THEN IS WE WOULD PURSUE A REQUEST FOR THAT, AND THEN WE WOULD SEE ULTIMATELY WHAT THOSE PRICING CAME BACK.
IT'S NOT A BUDGETED EXPENSE, SO EVEN THOUGH IT LIKELY WOULD BE UNDER MY THRESHOLD OF AUTHORITY, WE WOULD STILL NEED TO COME BACK AND HAVE A COUNCIL DIALOGUE BECAUSE WE WOULD BE NEEDING A BUDGET ADJUSTMENT ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, OR AT LEAST THE COUNCIL TO WEIGH IN TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S VALUE ADDED FOR THE PRICE THAT WE GET.
IF THAT IS OKAY, WE'LL PROCEED ACCORDINGLY WITH THAT AND BRING AN ITEM BACK FOR CONSIDERATION AT A LATER DATE.
>> I'M SORRY. IN THE RFQ IN THE SCOPE OF THAT AGREEMENT, IT WAS ALSO MENTIONED IN THERE, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THAT THEY WOULD BE AVAILABLE TO COME IN ON SPECIAL EVENTS AND HELP CLEAN UP.
>> I'M SURE. WE WOULD SOLICIT SOME PRICING FOR THAT AS WELL ON AS NEEDED OR ON DEMAND BASIS WHEN WE DO THAT.
WITH REGARDS TO THE CAPS FOR THE BENCHES ERIC AND I WERE PURSUING, AND, JEN, SOME REPAIRS ON THAT, BASED ON COUNCIL FEEDBACK, WE MAY NEED TO REGROUP.
>> THAT PO IS ISSUED, THE BRICK REPAIRS HAVE BEEN MADE.
WE'RE ACTUALLY JUST WAITING ON THE STONE CAPS TO COME IN.
THEY HAVEN'T BEEN INSTALLED YET, BUT WE DO HAVE AN EXISTING CONTRACT FOR FIXING THOSE.
TO BE FAIR, IN SHORT TERM, WE CAN MAKE THOSE FIXES, IT WAS PRETTY NOMINAL, AND COME BACK WITH SOME ALTERNATIVE DESIGNS THAT WOULD BE MORE SUSTAINABLE.
>> I'D GO AHEAD JUST GET THEM FIXED RIGHT NOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
IT'S ALREADY ALMOST A DONE DEAL, THEN COME BACK, WHAT DAN SAID.
>> WHEN YOU'VE ALREADY BOUGHT THEM.
>> WE NEED TO TAKE CONSIDERATION THE TWO TREES, WHETHER THEY NEED TO STAY OR GO.
>> I HEARD THE CONSENSUS THAT THEY CAN GO.
>> IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY'RE OVERLOADING THE BENCHES AND BREAKING THEM.
>> WE HAVE DIRECTION ON THAT, I BELIEVE, AS WELL, SO I THINK WE KNOW WHAT WE NEED TO DO THERE.
ANYTHING I'M MISSING, CMO, JEN?
>> I THINK THE ONLY THING WAS IF THERE IS ANY OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE LISTED FOR PRIORITIZATION FOR THIS UPCOMING BUDGET YEAR, IF THERE WAS ANYTHING ANY COUNCIL MEMBER SPECIFICALLY WANTED TO SEE FOR THIS YEAR VERSUS MAYBE 2-3 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD.
>> [OVERLAPPING] I GUESS THE UPLIGHTS ON THE TREES, GET THOSE WITH THE FLAT ONES IF THOSE ARE A CONSTANT PROBLEM.
>> REPLACING THE GRAVEL WITH SOMETHING. [OVERLAPPING]
>> YEAH, WITH PAVERS, SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T GET SPREAD EVERYWHERE.
THEN A BIG ITEM THAT BOTH PHIL AND I HAVE DISCUSSED IS SOMETHING BETWEEN THE TWO TRAINS.
THERE'S TABLES, BUT HARDLY ANYONE USES THAT.
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THAT SPACE COULD BE BETTER UTILIZED WITH SOME STATIONARY, SOMETHING THAT KIDS COULD POTENTIALLY CLIMB ON OR ANYTHING TO OCCUPY.THERE'S PEOPLE DOWN HERE AND THEY WANT MORE TO DO, AND WE HAVE THE COOL KID TRAIN, AND I WOULD LIKE TO JUST NEVER BRING BACK THE FOAM BLOCKS AGAIN.
BUT DOING SOMETHING WITH THAT SPACE IN BETWEEN, I'D LIKE FOR US TO EXPLORE.
I KNOW, WAS IT ALEX THAT WE ASKED FOR SOME-
>> THERE'S SOME COMMITTEE DISCUSSION, AND I THINK THERE IS INTENTION TO COME BACK PRIOR TO BUDGET TO DISCUSS OPTIONS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
>> WE CAN START PLANNING FOR NEXT YEAR.
>> COULD YOU PRIORITIZE THESE FUTURE BUDGET CONSIDERATIONS AND BRING THEM BACK TO US SO WE'LL KNOW WHAT THE PRIORITY IS ON THEM?
>> YES, SIR. WE'LL DO THAT THROUGH OUR BUDGET THIS YEAR.
I JUST WANTED TO KNOW WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS WERE BEFORE I PUT IT TOGETHER.
>> WELL, I'VE JUST READ THROUGH THEM AGAIN, AND THEY ALL LOOK LIKE VIABLE CANDIDATES FOR WORK.
>> WE'LL GO THROUGH THE NORMAL BUDGET PROCESS FOR MOST OF THESE, AND JEN WILL SUBMIT SUPPLEMENTALS FOR, I'M SURE, ALL OF THEM.
THEN IT'LL BE MY JOB TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE CAN ABSOLUTELY AFFORD OVER WHAT PERIOD OF TIME.
BUT I THINK WHAT JEN WAS TRYING TO DO IS JUST GET SOME ADVANCED DIRECTION FROM THE COUNCIL BECAUSE WE ALWAYS TRY TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION YOUR POLICY GOALS AND THE RANKINGS OF OUR SUPPLEMENTALS.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
[9. CITY COUNCIL REQUESTS FOR FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS AND REPORTS]
CITY COUNCIL REQUESTS FOR FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS AND REPORTS.>> THAT BRINGS US TO SECTION 10, EXECUTIVE SESSION.
[10. RECESS INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION]
THERE IS A NEED FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION.THE CITY COUNCIL WILL CONVENE IN EXECUTIVE SESSION IN THE CITY COUNCIL WORK ROOM AND CITY HALL TO CONDUCT A CLOSED MEETING TO DISCUSS ITEMS LISTED ON THE AGENDA.
THE CITY COUNCIL WILL CONVENE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO SECTION 551.071, 551.072, AND 551.087.
>> IS THERE A MOTION TO GOING INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION? I GOT A MOTION BY ADAM, A SECOND BY ALEXA.
PLEASE VOTE. PASSES UNANIMOUS, WE'RE GOING TO EXECUTIVE SESSION AT 8:30.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.