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[1. CALL TO ORDER]

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I WANT TO OPEN THIS SESSION UP. MONDAY, NOVEMBER 17TH, 2025 AT 6:01.

MAYOR. IF I COULD BE SPARED THE TIME, I'D LIKE TO MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT. I KNOW WE DON'T HAVE COMMUNITY INTEREST ITEMS ON OUR AGENDA THIS EVENING, BUT I WAS SADDENED PERSONALLY TO HEAR THIS WEEK OF THE PASSING OF DAN-O STRONG, MY FORMER COUNCIL COLLEAGUE WHO SERVED ON THIS BODY FROM 2015 TO 2019 AND WHO ALSO WAS THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE PRESIDENT FROM 2005 TO 2012.

WE'LL MISS DAN-O HE WAS A GREAT MAN. HE WAS A KIND HEARTED, GOOD SOUL THAT GAVE A LOT OF HIMSELF TO THIS COMMUNITY.

I HAVE BEEN TOLD EARLIER THIS EVENING THAT THIS YEAR ON NATIONAL SMALL BUSINESS SATURDAY WE WILL BE HONORING FORMER COUNCILMAN DAN-O STRONG'S LEGACY.

AND BY DEDICATING THE DAY TO WHAT HE LOVED MOST.

SO JOIN US PLEASE IN CELEBRATING SUPPORT LIKE DAN-O SMALL BUSINESS SATURDAY THAT WILL BE ON NOVEMBER 29TH.

WHEN YOU SHOP, DINE OR DO BUSINESS LOCALLY, TAKE A MOMENT TO CELEBRATE THOSE BUSINESSES THE WAY DAN-O HELPED TO BUILD THEM.

THERE ARE MANY SMALL BUSINESSES IN THIS COMMUNITY THAT THAT PERSONALLY FELT HIS HARD WORK AND HIS EFFORTS AND IT WOULD BE A GREAT THING TO HONOR HIM FOR THAT. SO THANK YOU. BUT I THOUGHT THAT WAS THE BEST TIME TO ANNOUNCE THAT HERE.

THANK YOU. DAN. THANK YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM. THAT BRINGS US TO SECTION TWO CITIZENS APPEARANCE.

EACH PERSON IN ATTENDANCE WHO DESIRES TO SPEAK TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON AN ITEM NOT POSTED ON THE AGENDA THIS EVENING SHALL SPEAK DURING THIS SECTION.

A SPEAKER CARD MUST BE FILLED OUT AND TURNED INTO THE CITY SECRETARY PRIOR TO ADDRESSING THE CITY COUNCIL, AND EACH MEMBER WILL BE ALLOWED THREE MINUTES TIME.

EACH PERSON IN ATTENDANCE WHO DESIRES TO SPEAK TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON AN ITEM POSTED ON THE AGENDA SHALL SPEAK WHEN THAT ITEM IS CALLED FORWARD FOR CONSIDERATION.

AT THIS TIME I HAVE NO SPEAKER CARDS. IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON AN ITEM NOT POSTED ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA?

[3.A. Consider and take possible action amending CSO#5974-10-2025 City of Burleson Alcohol Sales Policy for Chisenhall Sports Complex. (Staff Contact: Eric Oscarson, Deputy City Manager)]

THANK YOU. THAT WILL MOVE US ON TO SECTION THREE.

3A IS CONSIDER AND TAKE POSSIBLE ACTION AMENDING CSO#5974-10-2025 CITY OF BURLESON ALCOHOL SALES POLICY FOR CHISENHALL SPORTS COMPLEX. THE STAFF PRESENTER THIS EVENING IS ERIC OSCARSON, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER.

MR. OSCARSON. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

THE ITEM FOR YOU THIS EVENING IS TO REVIEW AND POSSIBLY AMEND THE ALCOHOL SALES POLICY FOR CHISENHALL SPORTS COMPLEX.

JUST A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND. OCTOBER 6TH OF THIS YEAR, CITY COUNCIL APPROVED THE CONTRACT FOR THIRD PARTY MANAGEMENT OF CHISENHALL FIELDS WITH SFM. ON OCTOBER 20TH, CITY COUNCIL APPROVED THE ORDINANCE ON FIRST READING, WHICH WOULD ALLOW FOR ALCOHOL SALES AND CONSUMPTION AT THE FIELDS, AS WELL AS ADOPTED THE POLICY WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS THIS EVENING.

ON NOVEMBER 3RD, COUNCIL APPROVED THE ORDINANCE ON FINAL READING.

AND AT THAT FINAL READING, CITY COUNCIL DID REQUEST TO REVIEW THE POLICY AGAIN.

AND THEN OBVIOUSLY THIS EVENING WE'RE HERE AT THE SPECIAL MEETING TO RECONSIDER AND EVALUATE THE ALCOHOL POLICY.

SO SO THE PURPOSE OF THE ALCOHOL POLICY IS TO ESTABLISH RESPONSIBLE GUIDELINES FOR ALCOHOL AT CHISENHALL FIELDS, ENSURES COMPLIANCE WITH THE TABC AND CITY STANDARDS AND BALLENCES COMMUNITY ENJOYMENT WITH YOUTH PROTECTION AND PUBLIC SAFETY.

SO TO REVIEW THE POLICY REAL QUICK, THE KEY RESTRICTIONS.

THERE ARE NO ALCOHOL SALES DURING YOUTH GAMES OR PRACTICES.

THAT'S BYA OR ANY OTHER YOUTH SPORTS THAT WOULD BE AT THE FACILITY.

NO ALCOHOL AT TOURNAMENT EVENTS WHERE THE TARGET MARKET IS CHILDREN 12 AND UNDER.

THIS WOULD APPLY TO ALL SFC STAFF AND ANY SUBCONTRACTORS SUBCONTRACTORS THAT MAY BE AT THE SITE, AND THERE MUST BE COMPLIANCE MONITORED BY THE CITY AND SFC.

WITH REGARDS TO SALES AND STANDARDS OF SERVICE THE SALE OF ALCOHOL IS ONLY IN CITY APPROVED DESIGNATED AREAS OF THE COMPLEX.

THE STAFF REQUIRED TO BE TABC CERTIFIED, AND THE CITY WOULD INSTALL CLEAR SIGNAGE OF WHERE THE DESIGNATED AREAS ARE.

WITH REGARDS TO LIABILITY AND INSURANCE, AS PART OF THE CONTRACT WITH SFC, THEY ARE REQUIRED TO CARRY GENERAL AND LIQUOR LIABILITY INSURANCE.

THE SFC MUST LIST THE CITY AS ADDITIONAL INSURED.

THEY MUST PROVIDE THAT TO US ANNUALLY, AND SFC IS RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY ALCOHOL RELATED CLAIMS. WITH REGARDS TO OVERSIGHT AND ANNUAL REVIEW. THE ADJUSTMENTS CAN BE ADOPTED BY COUNCIL AS NEEDED TO THIS POLICY.

SPOT INSPECTION AND COMPLIANCE REVIEWS ARE AUTHORIZED.

THE CITY MAY SUSPEND OR REVOKE ALCOHOL SALES AT ANY TIME.

NONCOMPLIANCE WITH THE CITY WOULD ISSUE. WE WOULD ISSUE WRITTEN WARNING AND A NOTICE OF DEFAULT.

IF THERE WAS CONTINUED VIOLATION WE COULD TERMINATE FOR CAUSE OF THE CONTRACT WITH SFC, AND THE CITY RESERVES SOLE DISCRETION TO PERMANENTLY PROHIBIT ALCOHOL SALES.

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JUST A REMINDER HERE'S THE SFC PRO FORMA THAT WAS PRESENTED TO COUNCIL AS PART OF THEIR CONTRACT.

AGAIN, THIS WAS WITH NO ALCOHOL SALES AND WE SEPARATE OUT SPONSORSHIPS.

WE ALSO SHOWED YOU THIS. THIS IS THE COMPARISON BETWEEN IF WE KEPT THE FIELD IN-HOUSE, THE RUNNING OF THE COMPLEX IN-HOUSE VERSUS SFC.

AND AS YOU CAN SEE AT THE BOTTOM LEFT, ALCOHOL SALES NET REVENUE WOULD BE $360,000 OVER THE FIVE YEAR PERIOD.

WITH REGARDS TO ALCOHOL, AGAIN, THAT'S $360,000 OVER FIVE YEARS.

THAT WOULD BE ONLY ON SALES AT EVENTS THAT ARE CATERED TO THOSE 13 AND UP.

AND THOSE ARE TOURNAMENTS THAT ARE 13 UP, NOT OUR NORMAL YOUTH SPORTS.

AND AGAIN, THAT'S BASED ON THE FACT THAT 10% OF TOURNAMENTS WOULD QUALIFY UNDER THAT WOULD COULD POSSIBLY QUALIFY UNDER THAT 13 AND UP.

AND THE TOTAL REVENUES FROM SPECIAL EVENTS. AND WITH THAT, I'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.

WHERE DO WE STAND ON THIS? I KNOW THERE'S CONVERSATIONS ABOUT WHERE THE ADULT FIELDS ARE, HOW MANY CONCESSION STANDS WE HAVE, WHAT CONCESSION STANDS ARE AROUND YOUTH GAMES OR GAMES OR FIELDS THAT ARE NOT ELIGIBLE FOR ADULT? I'VE HEARD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE NOT.

EITHER HAD PRIVILEGE TO OR WE JUST FAILED TO BE TOLD RIGHT NOW ONE OF THE CONVERSATIONS I HAD WAS THE FACT THAT NO ALCOHOL CAN BE SOLD.

THIS IS A POSSIBILITY. NO ALCOHOL CAN BE SOLD DURING ANY YOUTH EVENTS GOING ON.

IN OTHER WORDS, YOU CAN HAVE AN ADULT TOURNAMENT GOING ON ON THE THREE FIELDS THAT CAN HOUSE AN ADULT TOURNAMENT.

BUT IF THERE'S YOUTH GAMES GOING ON, NO ALCOHOL SALES.

THE WAY THE POLICY IS WRITTEN TODAY. CORRECT, SIR.

OKAY, SO WE'RE ONLINE WITH THAT. OR JUST NOT BEING.

THAT'S PRETTY CUT AND DRY. IF THERE'S NO USE SALES WHEN YOUTH GAMES ARE GOING ON.

IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH. CURRENTLY THE WAY THE POLICY IS STATED THAT DURING ANY YOUTH SPORTING EVENTS THAT IS IN HOUSE.

SO IF IT'S BYA, IF IT'S ANY OTHER ORGANIZATION THAT RUNS THEIR NORMAL DAY TO DAY LEAGUES, THERE'S NO ALCOHOL SALES AT ALL.

FOR TOURNAMENTS IF THERE ARE ANY PLAYERS THAT ARE PLAYING ON ANY OF THE FIELDS AND IT'S TOWARDS ANYTHING THAT'S 12 AND UNDER, THERE WILL BE NO YOUTH SALES. SO IF THERE'S 15 YEAR OLDS PLAYING ON THE BIG FIELDS AND SIX YEAR OLDS PLAYING ON THE SMALL FIELDS, THERE ARE NO ALCOHOL SALES. OKAY. IS THERE ANY COMMENTS ON THIS OR ARE WE GOING DOWN THE RIGHT ROAD? I MEAN, I THINK BASED ON FEEDBACK THAT THERE'S REALLY ONLY THREE FIELDS ADULTS CAN PLAY ON.

IS THAT CORRECT? CURRENTLY IN SPEAKING WITH SFC WE HAVE FOUR FIELDS THAT YOU COULD DO ADULT SOFTBALL ON.

YOU DO SOFTBALL. SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ADULT. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ADULT SOFTBALL THAT THEY CAN CURRENTLY USE FOR FIELDS. RIGHT. AND THERE'S REALLY ONLY TWO FIELDS THAT ANYBODY 15 AND UP COULD PLAY ON OR 14 AND UP. 13 AND UP.

13 AND UP. BECAUSE OF THE LENGTH OF THE SIZE OF THE FIELD, THE SIZE OF THE FIELDS, THE OLDER KIDS ARE GOING TO HIT IT OVER THE FENCE EVERY TIME BECAUSE WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE BIG FIELD. SO WHERE I'M AT NOW BECAUSE ORIGINALLY WE WERE TALKING.

MAYBE RAISING IT TO 16 IS JUST NOT ALLOWING IT AT SPORTING EVENTS AND ONLY FOR SPECIAL EVENTS, AND THAT THOSE, THOSE SPECIAL EVENTS THAT ARE APPROVED BY COUNCIL AHEAD OF TIME.

YOU KNOW, I WOULDN'T WANT IT AT BOO BASH AND I WOULDN'T WANT IT AT BUNNY DAYS, BUT 4TH OF JULY PROBABLY.

AND THEN IF WE HAD SOMEBODY WANTING TO RENT OUT THE WHOLE FACILITY TO DO SOMETHING SUCH AS A CHILI COOKOFF OR A CAR SHOW OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT WOULD BE AN APPROPRIATE TIME, PROBABLY. AND I THINK THAT THAT WOULD ALLEVIATE A LOT OF POTENTIAL CONFUSION TRYING TO SAY, WELL, THERE'S ONE EVENT HERE AND ONE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOFTBALL FIELDS AT SOME POINT THAT ARE MADE FOR ADULTS AT A DIFFERENT PART OF TOWN, AND THAT WOULD BE THE APPROPRIATE PLACE TO DO IT.

BUT I'M KIND OF JUST LET'S JUST NOT DO IT AT ALL FOR BALL PLAY AND ONLY SPECIAL EVENTS.

ANYBODY ELSE? THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I'M AT TOO.

I WAS LOOKING AT THIS FOR 12 AND UNDER, 13 AND OLDER AND THE AMOUNT OF FIELDS THAT WE HAD THAT ADULTS CAN PLAY IN, AND IT JUST DOESN'T SEEM PRACTICAL TO MANAGE IT THAT WAY.

WE'D BE JUMPING BACK AND FORTH AND EVENTUALLY THERE'D BE A VIOLATION JUST BECAUSE A SCHEDULING GOT MIXED UP OR SOMETHING WASN'T RIGHT IN THE SYSTEM,

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AND THEN EVERYBODY WOULD COMPLAIN AND IT WOULD ALL START ALL OVER AGAIN.

SO I'M JUST OKAY WITH NO ALCOHOL DURING THE BASEBALL GAMES, ONLY DURING SPECIAL EVENTS AT CITY MANAGER'S PREROGATIVE.

AND HE CAN BRING IT TO THE COUNCIL IF HE'D LIKE. I APPRECIATE THAT.

OH I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD. I'M IN THE SAME BOAT.

LET'S JUST SAY NOT AT ANY BASEBALL AND SOFTBALL GAMES AT ALL.

IT'S NOT ONE IF WE'RE LOOKING AT IT JUST FROM A BUDGET STANDPOINT, THERE'S NOT ENOUGH MONEY TO BE MADE BEING AS HOW WE ONLY HAVE THOSE FEW FIELDS. SO ELIMINATE IT COMPLETELY FROM BALL PLAY.

BUT SPECIAL EVENTS, 4TH OF JULY, CHILI COOKOFF, THINGS LIKE THAT.

I THINK THAT WE SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT TO SELL IT FOR THAT GIVEN EVENT.

I AGREE WITH YOU, ADAM. LARRY, ALL OF YOU, ABOUT NO ALCOHOL.

I'M GOING TO STICK WITH THAT. I DID THAT FROM THE BEGINNING.

I WILL STICK WITH IT. I THINK WE WENT OVER THE CITIZENS HEAD, AND I WASN'T FAST ENOUGH TO THINK ABOUT THIS LAST COUNCIL MEETING, BUT WE HAD SOME CITIZENS OUT HERE ABOUT THEY DIDN'T WANT THE DRAINAGE PROBLEM FIXED OUT OF FOX LANE.

AND WE SAID OKAY TO THEM. WE SAID, IF YOU DON'T WANT IT WE'RE NOT GOING TO WE WON'T SPEND THE MONEY ON IT.

BUT WE ALSO HAD A BUNCH OF PEOPLE IN HERE, LITTLE GIRL, A COUPLE OF ADULTS GOT UP AND SAID, WE DON'T WANT ALCOHOL. AND WE WENT RIGHT OVER THEIR HEAD.

WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYBODY COME UP HERE AND SAY, OH, WE WANT ALCOHOL TOMORROW.

WE WANT IT READY TO GO WITH ALL THE LITTLE LEAGUE KIDS AND EVERYBODY.

AND THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHT. I THINK WE WENT SOMEWHERE WHERE WE SHOULDN'T HAVE GONE.

ONE LADY CALLED ME AND SAID, WELL, I VOTED FOR ALCOHOL IN THE CITY.

WHY DIDN'T YOU GIVE US A CHANCE TO VOTE FOR ALCOHOL IN THE PARKS? BECAUSE WE WOULD NOT HAVE VOTED FOR IT. BUT YOU KNOW, HEARD THAT ARGUMENT, SO I'M TOTALLY AGAINST IT.

YOU KEEP ALCOHOL OUT OF THERE. BY THE TIME THE POLICE GET THERE IF THEY HAVE A FIGHT, YOU KNOW HOW THAT GOES.

I MEAN, THEY'RE SCATTERED, AND YOU GOT ALL KINDS. YOU CAN'T GET THERE FAST ENOUGH.

THERE'S EITHER A SHOOTING OR THERE'S FIGHTS AND EVERYBODY SCATTERED WHEN THAT HAPPENS.

SO TAKE IT OFF THE POLICE'S SHOULDERS. THEY'VE GOT TOO MUCH TO DO ALREADY.

JUST DON'T PUT IT IN THERE UNLESS SPECIAL EVENTS. NOW I WILL BACK UP ON SPECIAL EVENTS.

I'LL AGREE WITH YOU ON THAT. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.

BUT ALCOHOL GET IT OUT OF THERE WITH LITTLE KIDS.

YEAH. I FEEL LIKE WE CREATED TOO MUCH ROOM FOR CONFUSION AND MISINFORMATION WENT RAMPANT ON SOCIAL MEDIA, AND I DON'T THINK THERE ISN'T A ONE OF US UP HERE THAT WANTS ALCOHOL AT CHILDREN EVENTS.

AND THERE'S JUST TOO MUCH. IF THERE'S AN OVERLYING WHICH I WASN'T IN FAVOR OF, BUT IT JUST CAN LEAD TO CONFUSION AND MISTAKES.

AND SO JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE COMPLETELY CLEAR, TAKING IT OFF THE TABLE.

I'M SORRY. THERE'S AN ECHO SOMEWHERE, BUT TAKING IT COMPLETELY OFF THE TABLE FOR ANY SPORTING EVENTS, BECAUSE WE KNOW THOSE FIELDS ARE PREDOMINANTLY USED BY OUR YOUTH, AND THAT'S WHAT THEY WERE BUILT FOR.

THEY WERE BUILT FOR THESE KIDS. AND SO IF WE WANT THEM TO USE IT AND FEEL SAFE AND FAMILIES TO FEEL SAFE AND TO BRING THEIR CHILDREN OUT, AND THERE NOT BE ANY LENIENCY IN WHAT MIGHT OR MIGHT NOT BE SOLD AT THE CONCESSIONS, IF WE KNOW FOR SURE IT'S OFF THE TABLE FOR ALL SPORTING EVENTS, THEN THERE ISN'T THAT CONFUSION AND THEN THEY CAN GO ENJOY THE SPACE AS THEY WERE MEANT TO.

I GUESS WE'RE READY FOR A MOTION. SIR. I HAVE THREE SPEAKER CARDS.

OH. I'M SORRY. I HAVE THREE SPEAKER CARDS. SPEAKER CARD NUMBER ONE IS KATIE JOHNSON.

I STRONGLY URGE THE COUNCIL TO PROHIBIT ALCOHOL SALES AT CHISENHALL HALL BALLPARKS DURING ANY SPORTING EVENTS, WHETHER BYA OR TOURNAMENT BALL. THESE FIELDS DURING GAMES ARE MEANT TO BE SAFE, FAMILY FOCUSED ENVIRONMENT AND KEEPING ALCOHOL OUT DURING GAMES.

YOUTH GAMES HELPS PROTECT THE WELL-BEING OF OUR KIDS AND SETS THE RIGHT EXAMPLE FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

PROFITABILITY SHOULD NEVER OUTWEIGH THE SAFETY AND DEVELOPMENT OF OUR YOUTH.

SPEAKER CARD NUMBER TWO ROCKY TUCKER. ALCOHOL SHOULD NOT BE SOLD AT ANY YOUTH SPORTING EVENT AT CHISENHALL HALL FIELDS FOR THE PURPOSES OF THIS POSITION, YOUTH IS DEFINED AS AN INDIVIDUAL UNDER 18 YEARS OF AGE.

MAINTAINING A SAFE, FAMILY FOCUSED ENVIRONMENT IS ESSENTIAL.

ALLOWING ALCOHOL SALES AT YOUTH EVENTS DOES NOT ENSURE THE WELL-BEING OF ALL PARTICIPANTS, SPECTATORS AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS. WE SHOULD NOT ALLOW ANY ALCOHOL SALES AT ANY YOUTH EVENTS.

AND THE FINAL ONLINE SPEAKER CARD IS FROM COURTNEY ALLEN.

SELLING ALCOHOL AT KIDS SPORTING EVENTS IS NOT PUTTING YOUR CITIZENS SAFETY FIRST.

I'M DISAPPOINTED THAT YOU ALL, WHO HAVE TAKEN AN OATH TO DO WHAT IS BEST FOR THE CITY, HAVE AGREED TO ALLOW THIS TO HAPPEN.

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YOU'RE PUTTING MONEY AHEAD OF THE SAFETY OF CHILDREN.

YES, 14 YEARS ARE STILL CHILDREN, GRANDPARENTS, PARENTS [INAUDIBLE] AND OTHER SPECTATORS WHO WANT A POSITIVE, SAFE ENVIRONMENT. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS? THANK YOU. BILL. BILL JANUSCH 117 NORTHEAST CLINTON. I'VE SPOKEN BEFORE ABOUT THIS.

LIKE I SAID, I DON'T DRINK. I REALLY DIDN'T EVEN THINK THAT BURLESON SHOULD HAVE EVER GONE WET.

BUT WE HAD A PRIVATE CITIZEN, LOCAL BUSINESS OWNER, SPENT ABOUT $1 MILLION OF HIS OWN MONEY TO HELP GET THAT PUSHED THROUGH IT PASSED.

I WOULDN'T WANT THE DRINKING AROUND THE KIDS.

IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. I MEAN, YOU TALK ABOUT FIGHTS AND DISRUPTIONS AND BAD WORDS AND ALL THAT STUFF.

YOU CAN'T EVEN GO TO THE DRIVE THROUGH LINE AT A SCHOOL WITHOUT SEEING FIGHTS AND PEOPLE HONKING AND FLIPPING EACH OTHER OFF AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

IT'S IT'S JUST THE WAY OF THE WAY LIFE SEEMS TO HAVE GONE.

ALCOHOL, LIKE I SAID, IT FEELS MENTIONED BEFORE ABOUT COLLEGE DAYS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

I'VE BEEN GOING TO HIGH SCHOOL PLAYOFF GAMES SINCE 1968, ESPECIALLY IN TEXAS STADIUM WHEN YOU HAVE 40, 50,000 PEOPLE OUT THERE, A LOT OF THEM BOOZING IT UP.

I'VE NEVER SEEN A FIGHT THERE. IT DEPENDS ON THE ATMOSPHERE, BUT THEY HAVE SECURITY SET UP AND THAT'S WHAT I THINK YOU GUYS MIGHT BE OVERLOOKING THE SECURITY PART OF IT. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE FIGHTS OUT THERE.

YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE BAD WORDS. YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE THROWING STUFF, YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE KEYING CARS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. IT'S WHAT ARE YOU GUYS GOING TO DO SET UP AS FAR AS SECURITY? YOU GOT TO TRUST THESE PEOPLE THAT YOU'VE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE FARMING IT OUT TO LIKE YOU TALKED ABOUT.

THE COPS CAN'T GET THERE QUICK ENOUGH. THE UMPIRES CONTROL THE GAMES.

THE SCOREKEEPERS SHOULD BE ABLE TO HELP STEP IN TO ELIMINATE SOME OF THESE PARENTS WHEN YOU SEE TROUBLE, YOU CAN TAKE THE ALCOHOL OUT. YOU'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE TROUBLE.

THAT'S WHAT YOU GOT TO PREPARE FOR. AND I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU ARE QUITE READY FOR THAT.

THAT'S WHERE YOU REALLY NEED TO STUDY. BUT YOU KNOW, AND I SUPPORT YOU GUYS WHATEVER YOU GUYS DECIDE ON THIS.

BUT MY TAKE WAS THAT THE SPONSORSHIP, THIS IS THE CHANCE TO TAKE IT TO THE NEXT LEVEL.

IF YOU GET SIGNS OUT THERE, MARQUEE TYPE SIGNS, YOU GET SOMEBODY THAT'S LIKE BUDWEISER, SOMEBODY THAT THEY WANT TO PUT A SIGN THERE, YOU'RE GOING TO ALLOW IT OR NOT. IT'S JUST YOUR WAY OF BEING ABLE TO BRING IN MORE MONEY TO MAINTAIN THE LEVEL OF PLAY.

GOOD LUCK. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM? NO MORE SPEAKERS, SIR. MAYOR BEFORE WE MAKE A MOTION OR ANYTHING, I JUST WANT TO MAKE A POINT, ESPECIALLY WITH SPECIAL EVENTS AND IN THE POLICY IT DOES SAY SECURITY MUST BE IN PLACE AND THEN THE SPECIAL EVENTS ARE GOING TO HAVE ADEQUATE POLICE AND SECURITY THAT WOULD NOT NORMALLY BE THERE DURING JUST BASEBALL GAMES AND THINGS, BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE A SPECIFIC EVENT.

AND SO I THINK THAT'S WHERE I'M AT. YEAH. I THINK I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THAT UP BECAUSE THAT'S EXACTLY WHERE I WAS HEADING.

A COUPLE MEETINGS AGO, I BROUGHT THIS UP, BUT I DON'T THINK I APPROPRIATELY CONVEYED WHAT I WAS TRYING TO GET AT.

AND SINCE WE'RE NARROWING IT DOWN TO JUST SPECIAL EVENTS AND AT YOU KNOW, LIKE, WITH APPROVAL WHEN THOSE EVENTS, LIKE A CHILI FEST COMES TO TOWN, CAN IT BE PART OF THEIR, LIKE, AGREEMENT OF IN RENTING THESE, THEY ARE ALSO RESPONSIBLE FOR HIRING. WHEN I BROUGHT THIS UP, I SAID, YOU KNOW, I ASKED JEN, I MAY HAVE ASKED ERIC ABOUT, LIKE, YOU KNOW, LIKE WHEN YOU HAVE A WEDDING OR YOU HAVE AN EVENT AT A PLACE YOU ARE REQUIRED TO HIRE OFF DUTY POLICE OFFICERS OR WHATEVER THEIR ROLES MAY BE FOR THAT FACILITY.

SO CAN WE HAVE SOME TYPE OF RULES AS PART OF OUR CONTRACT OF IF YOU RENT OUR SPACE TO USE IT FOR A CHILI FEST OR CARNIVAL OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE, THAT YOU HAVE TO HIRE ADDITIONAL LAW ENFORCEMENT SECURITY TO BE ON STAFF SO THAT IT'S NOT JUST A WHEN THEY CALL, IT'S A AUTOMATIC PART OF THE AGREEMENT.

I'LL SPEAK TO THIS ONE, COUNCIL MEMBER JOHNSON. WE HAVE AN EXISTING SPECIAL EVENTS COMMITTEE THAT LOOKS AT SPECIAL EVENTS ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS.

POLICE AND FIRE ARE A COMPONENT OF THAT COMMITTEE.

AND WE DO LOOK AT THAT FROM A CITY SERVICES THAT ARE NEEDED STANDPOINT.

YOU WILL OFTEN SEE WHEN SPECIAL EVENTS COME BEFORE YOU MAY WE MAY AT TIMES SEE IN-KIND REQUESTS TO WAVE POLICE OR FIRE OTHER CITY SERVICE FEES. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE LOOK AT TODAY.

I DON'T, AND CHIEF CORDELL CAN PROBABLY SPEAK TO IT BETTER THAN I CAN IN TERMS OF THE SPECIFICS OF THE TRIGGERING MECHANISMS, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING WE LOOK AT NOW, AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO LOOK PARTICULARLY WITH THIS ELEMENT OF IT AS WELL.

AND THEN IF WE FEEL LIKE THAT THERE IS A NEED FOR A POLICE ELEMENT, WE CAN CONVEY THAT TO THE APPLICANT.

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AND THEN FROM THERE, IT MAY ULTIMATELY COME BACK TO COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION, DEPENDING ON THE HOW YOU GUYS WANT TO HANDLE THE POLICY OR IF THERE'S AN IN-KIND DONATION COMPONENT. NO. I'M GOOD. I'M BEING NICE. OKAY. I GUESS WE'RE READY TO VOTE ON THIS.

WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO VERBALIZE A MOTION? ERIC, CAN YOU PUT THE CURRENT POLICY BACK ON, PLEASE? SO IT WILL NOW SAY NO ALCOHOL DURING YOUTH LEAGUE GAMES OR PRACTICES, NO ALCOHOL AT TOURNAMENTS OR EVENTS.

WHAT IS THE PART THAT'S ARE WE JUST GOING TO ADD A BULLET THAT SAYS FOR SPECIAL EVENT ONLY YOU CAN? I MEAN, SO.

I WOULD ALLEN, YOU CAN SPEAK MORE TO IT FROM A POLICY STANDPOINT, BUT IF WE WANT TO JUST MAKE A MOTION THAT SAYS TO AMEND THE CURRENT POLICY TO OR TO REMOVE OR ADD LANGUAGE THAT DOES NOT ALLOW PERMIT ALCOHOL SALES AT ANY SPORTING EVENTS.

ANY SPORTING EVENT, ALCOHOL SALES WILL BE PERMITTED ONLY FOR SPECIAL EVENTS APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL PRIOR TO THE EVENT.

IT'LL BE VERY SIMPLE AND VERY DIRECT. FOR THE BETTER.

OKAY. AND I GUESS THE SALES AND SERVICE LIABILITY INSURANCE, THE INDEMNIFICATION POLICY REVIEW AND OVERSIGHT, ENFORCEMENT AND TERMINATION WILL BE UNTOUCHED.

CORRECT. ALL OF THOSE PROVISIONS ARE TO PROTECT THE PUBLIC INTEREST, AND WE WILL REQUIRE THE INSURANCE AND ALL THE INDEMNIFICATION LANGUAGE, BECAUSE WE WANT THE PERSON WHO IS REQUESTING THE SPECIAL EVENT TO BE THE ONE RESPONSIBLE FOR ENSURING THAT THOSE STANDARDS ARE MET.

ALLEN, WOULD THAT CHANGE TO JUST SO THE COUNCIL IS ON THE SAME PAGE AND UNDERSTAND BASED ULTIMATELY ON IF YOU PROCEED IN THAT DIRECTION, THERE WOULD BE A MINOR REVISION THAT WOULD NEED TO BE MADE TO THE ACTUAL ORDINANCE ITSELF.

SO I WANT TO BE FULLY TRANSPARENT THAT IF YOU MAKE THOSE CHANGES IN THE POLICY, THERE WILL BE SUBSEQUENT MODIFICATIONS WE NEED TO MAKE TO THE ORDINANCE ON A FIRST AND SECOND READING. YES, SIR. IS THERE A MOTION? YOU GOT IT, LARRY.

THAT IT SAYS NO ALCOHOL TO BE SOLD DURING SPORTING EVENTS, ONLY DURING SPECIAL EVENTS.

AND HOWEVER, YOU NEED TO PHRASE IT FOR THE CITY MANAGER TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR DETERMINING WHICH SPECIAL EVENTS GET ALCOHOL.

BEFORE JUST A SECOND, LARRY, WITHOUT PUTTING ALL THAT PRESSURE ON TOMMY, ARE YOU OKAY WITH SAYING THAT IT'S FOR THE CITY COUNCIL.

LET US. LET US MAKE THAT CALL INSTEAD OF TOMMY.

PUT THE WEIGHT ON US. IT'S A POLICY CALL. IT'LL HAVE TO GO TO TOMMY CITY MANAGER.

HE'LL BRING IT TO THE SPECIAL EVENTS COMMITTEE, AND THEN THEY'LL BRING IT TO US.

YOU OKAY WITH THAT? OKAY. THAT WORKS. YES, SIR.

SO AFTER ALL OF THAT, I GOT A MOTION BY LARRY AND A SECOND BY ADAM.

PLEASE VOTE. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. THAT BRINGS US TO SECTION FOUR EXECUTIVE SESSION.

AT THIS TIME, WE HAVE NO NEED FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION.

SO THAT BRINGS US TO SECTION FIVE. ADJOURN. MAYOR, IF YOU COULD ASK FOR A MOTION AND A SECOND.

IS THERE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? I GOT A MOTION BY VICTORIA.

SECOND BY ALEXA. WE'RE OUT OF HERE AT 6:26.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.