5.B. Consider and take possible action on ordinance amending section 58-4 of the code of ordinances (Chapter 58 Parks & Recreation) permitting the sale of alcohol at Chisenhall Sports Complex. (Final Reading) (Staff Contact: Jen Basham, Director of Parks and Recreation)

[5.B. Consider and take possible action on ordinance amending section 58-4 of the code of ordinances (Chapter 58 Parks & Recreation) permitting the sale of alcohol at Chisenhall Sports Complex. (Final Reading) (Staff Contact: Jen Basham, Director of Parks and Recreation)]

CONSIDER AND TAKE POSSIBLE ACTION ON AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION 58-4 OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES CHAPTER 58 PARKS AND RECREATION, PERMITTING THE SALES OF ALCOHOL AT CHISENHALL SPORTS COMPLEX.

THIS IS BEFORE CITY COUNCIL ON FINAL READING.

THE STAFF PRESENTED THIS EVENING IS NOT JIM BASHAM, BUT ERIC OSKARSON, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER.

>> GOOD EVENING, MAN, COUNCIL.

THE ITEM BEFORE YOU IS THE ORDINANCE AMENDING THE ORDINANCE FOR ALCOHOL SALES AT CHISENHALL PARK.

I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

I CAN GO THROUGH THE WHOLE PRESENTATION.

BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THAT.

>> SINCE WE HAVE MORE PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE THAN WE HAD THE FIRST READING, DO YOU MIND GOING THROUGH THE PRESENTATION AGAIN?

>> SOUNDS GREAT. THE PURPOSE OF THIS PRESENTATION IS TO GO THROUGH THE ESTABLISHMENT OF GUIDELINES FOR ALCOHOL SALES ON CITY PROPERTY, ENSURING COMPLIANCE WITH TABC AND CITY STANDARDS.

IT BALANCES COMMUNITY ENJOYMENT WITH YOUTH PROTECTION AND PUBLIC SAFETY, AND IT ALLOWS FOR THE SALE OF ALCOHOL BEING CONSIDERED IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE THIRD PARTY MANAGEMENT OF CHISENHALL.

AS YOU RECALL, AT THE LAST MEETING, WE DID THE FIRST READING OF THE ORDINANCE, WHICH ALLOWED FOR THE SALE ALCOHOL AT CHISENHALL, INCLUDED IN THAT PRESENTATION, WAS THE POLICY THAT WAS ADOPTED AT THE LAST MEETING AS WELL.

IN THAT POLICY, IT WOULD NOT ALLOW ALCOHOL SALES DURING YOUTH LEAGUES OR PRACTICES.

THERE'D BE NO ALCOHOL AT TOURNAMENT EVENTS THAT WERE THE TARGET MARKET AS CHILDREN 12 OR UNDER.

THIS APPLIES TO ALL SFC STAFF AND SUBCONTRACTORS, AND A COMPLIANCE WOULD BE MONITORED BY THE CITY AND SFC.

THE SALE OF ALCOHOL WOULD BE ONLY APPROVED AND CITY APPROVED DESIGNATED AREAS ON THE COMPLEX.

TABC CERTIFICATION FOR STAFF WOULD BE REQUIRED AND WE WOULD ESTABLISH CLEAR SIGNAGE OF WHERE ALCOHOL SALES WERE PERMITTED AND WHERE CONSUMPTION WAS ALLOWED.

AS PART OF THE CONTRACT WITH SFC, SFC IS REQUIRED TO CARRY INSURANCE FOR GENERAL AND LIABILITY LIQUOR LIABILITY INSURANCE.

SFC WILL LIST THE CITY AS ADDITIONALLY INSURED.

THEY WILL BE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE US THOSE INSURANCE CERTIFICATES ON AN ANNUAL BASIS, AND SFC WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY ALCOHOL RELATED CLAIMS ON THE PROPERTY.

IT OVERSIGHT AND ANNUAL REVIEW, WE CAN MAKE ADJUSTMENTS.

COUNCIL CAN MAKE ADJUSTMENTS ANNUALLY AS NEEDED OR AT ANY TIME AS NEEDED.

WE'RE ALLOWED TO DO SPOT INSPECTIONS AND COMPLIANCE REVIEW.

THE CITY MAY SUSPEND OR REVOKE ALCOHOL SALES AUTHORIZATION AT ANY TIME.

ANY NON-COMPLIANCE WITH THE CITY WOULD ISSUE WRITTEN NOTICES OF DEFAULT.

IF THEY CONTINUE TO HAVE VIOLATION, WE COULD TERMINATE THE CONTRACT WITH SFC AS OUTLINED IN THE AGREEMENT, AND THE CITY RESERVES THE SOLE DISCRETION TO PERMANENTLY PROHIBIT ALCOHOL SALES.

THE ITEM BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS SIMPLY THE ORDINANCE ALLOWING FOR THE SALE OF ALCOHOL ON THE SITE.

>> ERIC, WHAT DO WE CONSIDER THE AGE OF THE YOUTH LEAGUE?

>> I DO NOT KNOW WHAT BYA YOUTH LEAGUE IS CONSIDERED, BUT BASED ON THE CURRENT YOUTH LEAGUE OR ANYTHING THAT'S BYA ASSOCIATED, THEY WOULD NOT BE ALCOHOL SALES AT ANY BYA.

I'M NOT I DON'T KNOW OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD WHAT BYA AGE LIMIT THEY GO UP TO.

>> NO ALCOHOL AT TOURNAMENT EVENTS WHERE TARGET MARKET AS CHILDREN 12 AND UNDER.

THAT STATEMENT CONFUSES ME.

THE REASON IT DOES IS THAT I CAN HAVE AN 8-YEAR-OLD SITTING NEXT TO ME WATCHING AN ADULT GAME, AND THE GENTLEMAN SITTING NEXT TO THEM, AND I BELIEVE WE DO HAVE THE RIGHT TO CONCEAL CARRY OR OPEN CARRY, WOULD BE DRINKING ALCOHOL ALSO.

NEXT TO MY 12, 13, 14-YEAR-OLD CHILD, OR 8-YEAR-OLD CHILD, BUT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO DRINK WHILE THE CHILD'S OUT THERE PLAYING.

I'D RATHER HIM DRINK WHILE THE CHILD'S OUT ON THE FIELD THAN WHILE HE'S SITTING RIGHT NEXT TO THEM.

THAT CONFUSES ME.

IT SEEMS TO BE BACKWARDS THE WAY IT OUGHT TO BE.

>> THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN AMEND IN THE POLICY? IF COUNCIL DECIDES THAT.

THAT'S A POLICY, THAT'S A POLICY ITEM.

>> ANYONE ELSE? WE PUT IN THE CONTRACT ALL OF THE AVAILABLE TOOLS WE NEED TO GET RID OF THIS WHEN WE NEED TO.

I WANTED THAT JUST SO WE HAVE A WAY OUT.

WHEN I TALKED TO CHIEF CORDELL AND SOME OTHERS ABOUT THIS AND THE OTHER TOWNS, THEY HAVEN'T HAD A PROBLEM, BUT I UNDERSTAND I RESPECT FIELD'S POSITION ON IT,

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LARRY'S POSITION ON IT.

I'M FOR GIVING THEM A CHANCE, BUT HAVE A NOOSE AROUND HER NECK.

THAT'S THE WAY I FEEL ABOUT IT.

WE HAVE SPEAKERS, PEOPLE WANT TO SPEAK.

>> CAN I ASK?

>> THE WAY I LOOK AT IT, THE CHANCE IS NOT OURS TO MAKE, IT'S THE CITIZENS OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK AND MAKE THIS DECISION.

AS FAR AS TOOLS TO PULL IT BACK, IF WE HAVE TO HAVE TOOLS TO PULL THIS BACK, THEN SOMEWHERE THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG, AND WE NEED TO ADDRESS THAT NOW.

>> WELL, IT'S NOT A HAMMER.

IT'S PEACE OF MIND FOR US TO KNOW THAT WE HAVE THAT ABILITY.

HOPEFULLY, WE'LL NEVER HAVE TO DO THAT.

I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND JUST HAVING THE TOOLS THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO LET THEM KNOW THAT WE'RE WATCHING, BUT EVERY CONVERSATION WE'VE HAD WITH SFC HAS BEEN HAS BEEN GOOD.

I MEAN, THE OTHER TOWNS ARE MAKING THIS WORK.

THIS IS A TOUGH DECISION FOR ME.

>> LAST MEETING, I DID MENTION THAT I WOULD PREFER IT BE TARGET MARKET IS 16 AND UNDER BECAUSE I CAN HEAR WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER SCOTT IS SAYING.

I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH 12.

BUT IF THE TARGET IS COLLEGE.

THAT'S WHAT I'M PICTURING A BIG SPORTING EVENT THAT IS MUCH HIGHER A PRE TO A WORLD SERIES OR IF WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO RECRUIT SOMETHING THAT LARGE.

A QUESTION IS, ONE, I DON'T KNOW HOW CAN WE GO BACK AND CHANGE THAT? I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD MAKE YOU UNCOMFORTABLE, BUT I'M NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THE 12.

>> THE WAY WE HAVE IT DRAFTED IS THERE'S AN ORDINANCE THAT ALLOWS THE CONSUMPTION OF ALCOHOL AT CHISENHALL.

THAT'S THE ORDINANCE THAT'S BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING.

THE POLICY THAT WAS ADOPTED AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING WITH THE FIRST READING, SET THE TERMS THAT SAY WHEN IT CAN BE SOLD.

AGAIN, WE CAN AMEND IT AT ANY TIME.

I THINK THE POLICY EVEN STATES, I MEAN, TOMMY CAN TURN IT ON AND TURN IT OFF AT HIS DISCRETION.

>> IT DOES SAY THAT.

>> WE HAVE A LOT OF LEEWAY WITHIN THE POLICY, AND THAT'S THE POLICY THAT YOU ADOPTED.

IF THERE'S CONCERNS ABOUT THE AGE RANGE, WHAT WE WOULD DO IS WE COME BACK TO YOU IN DECEMBER AND WE CAN AMEND IT TO SAY 16, IF THAT'S THE WILL OF THE COUNCIL.

THAT'S THE POLICY NOT THE ORDINANCE ITSELF.

THE ORDINANCE IS SIMPLY ALLOWING THE CONSUMPTION ON THAT SITE.

WE DO A FOURTH OF JULY EVENT.

WE WANT TO HAVE A BIG BASH, AND WE WANT TO HAVE BALL TO SELL BEER AT THE SITE AND CONSUME ON THE SITE.

THIS WOULD ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN.

BUT THIS IS JUST SIMPLY HOW DO YOU WANT TO HANDLE IT WITH SFC? THAT'S A POLICY DECISION AND WE CAN BRING THAT POLICY BACK FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION.

>> I MADE THE REMARKS LAST TIME, BUT AS I NOTED, THERE'S NEW PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE, AND THERE'S POTENTIALLY NEW PEOPLE VIEWING, BUT IT'S MORE OF THOSE SPECIAL EVENTS THAT CROSS MY MIND OF LIKE, IF WE DO HAVE JULY 4 OUT THERE.

WE HAVE HAD THE HONEY CARNIVAL TOUR ARE OUT THERE.

THAT WAS SOME OF THE FEEDBACK RECEIVED WAS THAT THE AVAILABILITY OF CONCESSION, DIVERSITY WASN'T AVAILABLE AT THE FIELDS LIKE IT IS HERE IN OLD TOWN.

I KNOW, IN THE POLICY, IT SAYS THAT CITY MANAGER HAS THE ABILITY TO TURN IT ON AND OFF.

WHAT IS GOING TO BE THE POLICY? I'M SO SORRY.

FOR LIKE, INDIVIDUALLY HOW.

THIS JULY 4, FOR EXAMPLE, IT'S COMING.

WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO BE INDIVIDUALLY CONSIDERED EACH TIME, A NEW EVENTS COMING LIKE WHETHER OR NOT, OR IT'S JUST WE FOLLOW THE POLICY THE POLICY STATES, IT CAN GO WITH THIS ONE. DO YOU UNDERSTAND?

>> INTENT, OBVIOUSLY, WE HAVE A LOT OF BACK AND FOURTH COMMUNICATION.

THEY'VE BEEN OPERATING IT SINCE THIS LAST WEEKEND.

I'VE ALREADY RECEIVED AN E MAIL TODAY WITH HOW THEY PERFORM THIS WEEKEND.

THIS WAS THEIR FIRST WEEKEND TO DO A TOURNAMENT. I ALREADY HAVE THE DATA.

THERE'S A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH COMMUNICATION, AND THERE'LL BE A LOT OF PLANNING WITH THEM.

ESPECIALLY WITH FOURTH OF JULY BECAUSE FOURTH OF JULY IS OUR EVENT.

WE HAVE THAT SET ASIDE FOR US TO DO AN EVENT THERE.

WE'D BE COORDINATING ON WHAT'S GOING ON.

NOW, THEY OBVIOUSLY KNOW THAT THE REVENUES TO BE MADE IF THEY SELL.

IF THEY HAVE AN EVENT COMING UP AND THEY IDENTIFY AND SAY, THIS IS A COLLEGE WEEKEND, WE THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE BRINGING SOMEBODY IN TO SELL CALL, THEY'D BE REACHING OUT TO US, AND WE'D BE REVIEWING IT.

THERE'S A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH COMMUNICATION ON A REGULAR BASIS, AND THE INTENT WOULD BE IS WE LOOK AT IT AT EVENT BY EVENT, TOURNAMENT BY TOURNAMENT, BECAUSE AGAIN, THEY CAN'T DO IT DURING THE WEEK.

IT WOULD JUST SIMPLY BE TOURNAMENT BASED.

OR EVENT BASE BECAUSE THEY WILL HAVE EVENTS.

IF THEY DON'T HAVE A TOURNAMENT, JUST REMEMBER, SFC WILL HOLD DIFFERENT TYPE OF EVENTS UP THERE.

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THEY MIGHT TRY TO DO A MOVIE NIGHT OR YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? THEY'RE GOING TO TRY TO ATTRACT PEOPLE TO CHISENHALL TO TO BE A USED SPACE ON A REGULAR BASIS.

>> MY ORIGINAL HEARTBURN WAS BYA, AND I DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE ALCOHOL WITH THAT, WHICH WE WOULD ADDRESS THAT NOW. WE DON'T.

THEN THE 12 AND UNDER, BUT I'M LEANING TOWARDS COUNCIL MER JOHNSON OF SETTING IT AT 16 AND UNDER.

BUT FOR SURE OF SPECIAL EVENTS OUT THERE, FOURTH OF JULY AND ALL THAT.

I MEAN, THAT'S THE BIGGIE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT.

BUT I THINK THESE HAVE ADDRESSED MY CONCERNS.

THEN IN THE MEANTIME BETWEEN NOW AND DECEMBER, OBVIOUSLY, TOMMY WOULD HAVE GUIDANCE THAT 16 AND UNDER.

NO WAY UNTIL WE CAN AMEND THE POLICY AGAIN.

IF WE CHOOSE TO DO THAT. GO THAT RIGHT.

>> FOR THE 16 AS WELL, INSTEAD OF 12.

>> WE CAN BRING THAT POLICY BACK TO YOU.

>> EVERYBODY GOOD? NO.

>> I'M STILL A LITTLE CONCERNED.

>> IS WHY IT'S OKAY TO RAISE THE AGE TO 16 WHEN WE STILL HAVE 12-YEAR-OLDS SITTING NEXT TO HIM IN THE STANDS DRINKING.

IS THIS DRINKING? IS IT A NEED OR IS IT A WANT? DO WE NEED MORE POLICE TO DO THIS, OR DO WE WANT MORE POLICE TO POLICE THE AREA? THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS TO THINK ABOUT HERE OTHER THAN THE FACT ABOUT MAKING MONEY.

ARE WE GOING TO LOSE ANYTHING BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ALCOHOL?

>> NOW, THE STATEMENTS ALREADY MADE THAT THE ALCOHOL WAS NOT AN ISSUE WITH THE CONTRACT.

IT WAS NOT. IF WE SAY NO, WE'RE NOT GOING TO LOSE SFC, IS THAT CORRECT?

>> CORRECT.

>> IT JUST ADD.

IT JUST GIVES THEM MORE OPPORTUNITY FOR ADDITIONAL REVENUE.

BUT BY NO MEANS, IS THIS A MONEY DRIVEN THING? I BELIEVE IT'S THE COMMUNITY, WHEN WE HAVE EVENTS OUT THERE, HAVING THE ABILITY TO, AND I DON'T IT'S NOT ABOUT THE KID EVENTS AT ALL.

I HAVE LOTS OF KIDDOS THAT ARE NEAR AND DEAR TO ME THAT PLAY SPORTS OUT THERE.

I DON'T WANT AT A BYA GAME THE ABILITY TO SELL ALCOHOL.

BUT IF YOU'RE AT A FOURTH OF JULY EVENT, THEY'RE GOING TO BE KIDS AROUND.

BUT THE TARGET AUDIENCE, WE'RE NOT TARGETING ONLY CHILDREN.

WE'RE TARGETING FAMILIES.

IT'S JUST AN OPPORTUNITY TO INCREASE THE REVENUE, BY NO MEANS, DO WE HAVE TO HAVE IT? THEY'VE SHOWN US A PERFORMER THAT DOESN'T INVOLVE ANY ALCOHOL CELLS AT ALL. IT STILL WORKS.

IT JUST DOESN'T HAVE AS MUCH.

WE KNOW WHEN THEIR SELLS, AND WE'VE ALREADY SEEN THIS AS A COMMUNITY, HEB WOULDN'T COME TO TOWN UNLESS THEY COULD SELL BEER AND WINE.

WHEN THEY SPENT THE MONEY TO RECRUIT THAT, TO MAKE A POSITIVE ELECTION TURNOUT, THEN THEY CAME TO TOWN.

CITY MARKET IN ORDER WHEN WE HAD THEM, AND GOSH, I WISH THEY WERE BACK.

BUT WHEN THEY IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO COMPETE WITH THE OTHER GROCERY STORES, THEY KNEW THEY HAD TO SELL BEER AND WINE.

IT'S NOT, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT OUR INTENTION OR STAFF'S INTENTION WITH ANY OF THIS IS TO IT'S, ABOUT GETTING BEER OR ALCOHOL IN FRONT OF CHILDREN.

I THINK IT'S JUST AN OPENING OF THE ABILITY TO RECRUIT DIFFERENT TYPES OF EVENTS, WHETHER IT'S A CONCERT OR A MOVIE NIGHT OR HIGHER UP TYPE OF TOURNAMENT, NOT CHILDREN.

>> I GOT CONFUSED AGAIN.

I THOUGHT WE WERE DISCUSSING BALL GAMES AND TOURNAMENTS, BUT WE'RE DISCUSSING EVERYTHING. WE'RE DISCUSSING.

I MEAN, IT'S OKAY TO HAVE IT AT 4 JULY OR ANY OF THESE CONCERTS, WHICH I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.

THEN I GUESS WE DON'T NEED IT AT THE BALL GAMES IN.

I'M STILL CONFUSED WHY WE HAVE TO HAVE IT AT THE BALL GAMES.

I'M CONFUSED. IT'S A WHOLE ANOTHER STORY WHEN WE START BRINGING IN ALL THE OTHER EVENTS.

I'M OKAY WITH THAT BECAUSE PARENTS HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BRING THEIR CHILDREN, NOT BRING THEIR CHILDREN, MOVE AROUND, AND THERE'S NOT AS MUCH ADRENALINE AT EVENTS AS THERE IS IN BALL GAMES.

I'M STILL CONCERNED ABOUT A SELLING ALCOHOL BALLGAMES.

>> I'M GLAD YOU CLARIFIED THAT BECAUSE NOW I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT JUST REMOVING THAT PIECE.

>> WELL, I'M TOTALLY WITH LARRY ON THIS.

MY FEELINGS HAVE BEEN SAME WAY ALL THE WAY THROUGH.

I DON'T WANT IT AT ALL. I DON'T THINK YOU NEED IT.

I DON'T THINK ALCOHOL WILL MAKE IT ANY BETTER OR ANY WORSE.

I THINK IT PUTS A STRAIN ON THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

YOU GOT TO HAVE VOLUNTEERS TO GET OUT THERE, AND I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE THE ONES THAT ARE GOING TO ENFORCE IT.

I THINK WE PUT MORE STRAIN ON THEM BY PUTTING ALCOHOL IN THERE.

WORKED FOR BISD FOR YEARS AND YEARS.

WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH PEOPLE COMING IN FOR PLAYOFF GAMES,

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FOOTBALL, BASKETBALL ANYWHERE BECAUSE WE DIDN'T SELL ALCOHOL.

BEEN TO COLLEGE EVENTS HERE LATELY, OR IT'S OKAY? YOU'VE GOT 18-YEAR-OLDS, 20-YEAR-OLDS, DRINKING UNTIL THEY'RE SILLY DRUNK AND FIGHTS ALL OVER THE PLACE, AND JUST DON'T LIKE IT.

IT'S JUST NOT FOR A SPORTING EVENT.

I'M TOTALLY WITH LARRY ON THIS.

I THINK THE MONEY IF WE'RE DOING IT FOR MONEY, WE'RE DOING IT FOR THE WRONG REASON.

I DON'T KNOW ANOTHER REASON TO DO IT, BUT MONEY IS NOT GOING TO GENERATE THAT MUCH.

NOT GOING TO INCREASE THE POPULARITY OF THE EVENT OR NOT.

GUARANTEE TEAMS FROM OUT OF TOWN TO THEY'RE GOING TO COME TO THIS EVENT.

IF YOU HAVE A BASEBALL TOURNAMENT, SOFTBALL TOURNAMENT, THEY'LL COME, NOT BECAUSE OF BEER.

THEY'LL BE HERE, NOT BECAUSE OF ALCOHOL.

THEY'LL BE HERE TO PLAY THE TOURNAMENT, AND THEY WANT TO RUN VERY NICELY, AND THEY WANT TO RUN VERY CLEANLY.

THE NEXT DAY, YOU'LL HAVE BEER CANS ALL OVER THE PLACE.

I DON'T CARE IF YOU HAVE A TRASH CAN SATING RIGHT BESIDE YOU.

PEOPLE GO TO THROW BEER CANS EVERYWHERE AND IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE CITY DUMB.

I'M SORRY, I DON'T LIKE IT, DON'T WANT IT, NOT GOING TO VOTE FOR IT. SORRY.

>> ANYBODY ELSE?

>> I'M GOING TO REITERATE THAT I HAVE PULLED FOR SFC TO HAVE THE BEST CHANCES OF SUCCESS THAT THEY CAN HAVE WITH WHATEVER TOOLS ARE REASONABLE AND LEGALLY APPROPRIATE, AND COUNSEL HAS WORKED REALLY HARD TO COME TO AN AGREEMENT ON THIS SITUATION.

WE'VE REACHED ONE. I SEE NO REASON TO REVERSE IT NOW.

MOST OF THE ARGUMENTS MADE DENIED HAVE BEEN MADE BEFORE, AND MY POSITION IS UNCHANGED.

I WANT TO GIVE SFC THE BEST SHOT THAT WE CAN GIVE THEM FOR THE SUCCESS OF THIS VENTURE.

>> ARE WE STILL ON THE TABLE CHANGE IT TO 16? ARE YOU STILL ON [OVERLAPPING]

>> IT'S THE POLICY DISCUSSION THAT HAS TO COME BACK, MAYOR?

>> THIS THIS EVENING'S ACTION IS SIMPLY FOR THE CONSUMPTION OF ALCOHOL CHISENHALL FIELDS.

THE POLICY DISCUSSION WILL HAVE TO COME BACK AND WE CAN HAVE A BIG DISCUSSION ON THAT ONE IF WE WANT TO WITH REGARDS TO AGE DURING SPORTING EVENTS OR JUST SPECIAL EVENTS, ALL THOSE THINGS THAT WE CAN BRING FORWARD AT A POLICY DISCUSSION.

THIS IS SIMPLY THE ORDINANCE THAT WOULD ALLOW THE SALE OF ALCOHOL AND CONSUMPTION OF ALCOHOL AT CHISENHALL.

>> DURING OUR DISCUSSIONS, DID I HEAR THAT THEY WERE GOING TO BE SUCCESSFUL WITH OR WITHOUT ALCOHOL?

>> WE HAVE PROVIDED YOU A PRO FORMA AT THE LAST MEETING THAT SHOWED THEM WITHOUT ALCOHOL SALES, WHICH SHOWED WHAT THEIR RATE OF RETURN WOULD BE, SO WE HAVE SHOWN THAT.

>> HE ACTUALLY SAID THAT IT WOULD MAKE A DIFFERENCE TO THEM.

I REMEMBER WHEN A GENTLEMAN WAS UP HERE AND WE ASKED HIM, HE SAID, WE'RE FINE EAT AWAY.

>> YES, SIR.

>> WE HAVE SPEAKERS.

>> YES, SIR. WE DO HAVE SPEAKERS.

>> I WANT TO SAY SOMETHING ON THE SPEAKER CARDS.

WE HAVE QUITE A FEW PEOPLE WANT TO SPEAK.

I'M GOING TO HOLD IT TO THREE MINUTES.

I DON'T MEAN TO BE RUDE WHEN I SAY STOP.

I'M JUST DOING MY JOB, SO I'M GLAD YOU'RE ALL HERE.

>> WILL BE TIMED ON IT. FIRST SPEAKERS THAT WE HAVE ARE KATIE JOHNSON AND KENNEDY JOHNSON.

>> TO BE CLEAR, WE EACH GET THREE MINUTES BECAUSE WE EACH HAVE OUR OWN STATEMENTS.

>> YES. THEY DO.

THEY HAVE SEPARATE.

IT'S JUST THAT KENNEDY WANTED HER MOTHER TO COME UP WITH HER JUST FOR MORAL SUPPORT ON THE SIDE OF HER.

>> THERE YOU GO. YOU HAVE TO MOCK DOWN. THERE YOU GO.

>> THESE ARE IMPORTANT THINGS WHY WE SHOULD NOT SELL ALCOHOL FIELDS.

KIDS DO NOT DRINK ALCOHOL, PARENTS DO, COACHES DO, ADULTS DO, KIDS DON'T.

I WAS ON A SELECT TEAM AND ONE TIME MY COACHES WERE DRINKING AND OTHER PARENTS YELLING AT ME, AND IT WAS HARD CONCENTRATING FOCUSING AT PLAYING.

THAT'S ONE SPECIFIC REASON WHY I'M NO LONGER ON THAT TEAM BECAUSE THEY WERE DRINKING ALCOHOL, NOT BEING GOOD EXAMPLES FOR CHILDREN.

ALSO, ANOTHER REASON IS WHEN I WAS STILL ON THAT SELECT TEAM, I GOT HURT DURING WARM-UP WAS TO NEVER TUCK DUMB AND BECAUSE THEY WERE TOO BUSY DRINKING IN THE PARKING LOT.

I JUST WENT TO PLAY SOFTBALL WITH MY FRIENDS AND NOT WORRY ABOUT COACHES AND PARENTS OF HOW THEY ACT.

>> THANK YOU.

>> HI, I'M KATIE JOHNSON.

I'VE LIVED IN BURLESON FOR 13 YEARS, AND THE REASON WE CAME HERE WAS THE SMALL TOWN FEEL TO KEEP IT COMMUNITY VALUE,

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TO KEEP IT FAMILY ORIENTED.

I JUST WANT TO NOT LOSE THAT IN DOING THIS.

I'M ADAMANTLY AGAINST IT.

WE HAVE BEEN WITHIN BYA FOR NINE SEASONS.

I HAVE ALSO, AS YOU JUST HEARD MY DAUGHTER'S STATE, BEEN ON A SELECT TRAVEL BALL TEAM.

WE NEVER HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO PLAY IN BURLESON FOR A SOFTBALL TOURNAMENT SPECIFICALLY, BUT WE DID PLAY ALL OVER, AND SO I WANT YOU TO HEAR THAT I'VE BEEN A PARENT. I'VE BEEN A COACH.

I'VE ALSO BEEN A TRAVEL PARENT AS WELL, SO IT'S THE GAMUT OF ALL OF THAT.

THAT BEING SAID, LARRY DID BRING OUT A POINT THAT MY DAUGHTER WHO IS ABOUT TO BE NINE WAS PLAYING ACROSS THE FIELD FROM 18 YEAR OLDS, SO IT'S NULL AND VOID, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT 18 AND UNDER.

THEY'RE PLAYING ON THE SAME FIELDS.

I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF YOU HAVE BEEN TO CHISENHALL RECENTLY OR BEEN TO A GAME THERE, BUT THEY PLAY ACROSS THE FIELD FROM EACH OTHER.

THERE'S NO WAY OF YOU GUYS CONTROLLING THIS SEPARATELY.

THERE'S NO WAY OF YOU GUYS CONTROLLING IT WITH THE PD.

THERE'S NO WAY OF CONTROLLING IN AND OUT.

UNFORTUNATELY, THE BA IS SOFTBALL VICE PRESIDENT WAS UNABLE TO MAKE IT HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE THERE'S A GRIEVOUS MEETING AT THIS EXACT SAME TIME DUE TO A FIGHT THAT HAPPENED LAST WEEK AT THE FIELDS.

NOT ALCOHOL INDUCED AT ALL IT WAS JUST PARENTS BEING THAT PASSIONATE ABOUT THEIR KIDS.

TAKE A PART THAT IT'S NOT THE ALCOHOL.

IT'S THE FIRING UP OF YOUR KID OUT THERE AND THE INJUSTICE WITH YOUR KID BEING HURT, A CALL AGAINST THEIR KID.

I'M JUST GOING TO RUN REAL FAST THROUGH A COUPLE OF THINGS.

AGAIN, WHAT'S YOUR GUYS' PRIORITY HERE? IS IT ALCOHOL TO MAKE MONEY OR IS IT KIDS? BECAUSE BY DEFINITION, A KID IS EVERYONE UNDER 18, IS THAT NOT CORRECT? I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT REAL FAST, AND I WOULD LOVE TO SEE ONE SPECIFIC ARTICLE OR ONE SPECIFIC STATISTIC WHERE ALCOHOL SALES WITH KIDS AROUND IS A GREAT IDEA.

IT'S NOT A WHO DRIVES THEM HOME AND WHO'S IN CHARGE OF THEIR SAFETY? IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A GREAT OUTCOME.

BPD HAS BEEN CALLED NUMEROUS TIMES TO CHISENHALL FOR SOBER SPECTATORS OVER BAD CALLS.

I TRIED TO DO A FORMAL REQUEST.

I JUST DIDN'T GET DONE IN TIME.

BUT THIS SEASON A FAMILY WAS BANNED FROM BY FOR SHOWING UP DRUNK AND SAYING THAT THEY WOULD SHOOT SOMEONE DURING A DISPUTE IN THE FIELD.

THAT'S A DIFFERENT INSTANCE THAN LAST WEEK'S.

BAYLOR COLLEGE OF MEDICINE ALSO RELEASED A STUDY THAT REPORTED THAT THE SEVERE IMPACT ON CHILDREN'S MENTAL HEALTH, AND ENJOYMENT OF YOUTH SPORTS WHEN UNRULY PARENTS WITH BEHAVIORS LIKE YELLING AND THREATS HAPPEN DURING YOUTH GAMES.

AGAIN, UNDER 18 IS A CHILD, AND IT'S YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO KEEP THEM SAFE HERE, AND I DON'T THINK HAVING ALCOHOL SALES, YOU'RE GOING TO MISS AN OPPORTUNITY.

BURLESON HAS DONE SUCH A PHENOMENAL JOB OF KEEPING THOSE FIELDS OF GETTING THEM ALL TURFED, OF BEING CLOSE TO 35 OF HAVING THE RESTAURANT OF HAVING THE HOTELS.

YOU'RE NOT GOING TO LOSE THAT ON OPPORTUNITY.

KEEP OUR KIDS SAFE.

>> I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU.

>> NEXT SPEAKER IS KIM JONES.

>> WHAT I HAVE TO SAY IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT CAUSE YOU'VE MADE SOME GOOD PROGRESS HERE, BUT, YES, YOUTH IS 18 AND UNDER FLAT.

ARE WE IN A SOCIETY THAT HAS TO HAVE ALCOHOL OR WE CAN'T ENJOY OURSELVES? THEN WE HAVE A PROBLEM.

THERE ARE PLACES TO HAVE ALCOHOL ANYWHERE, AND THE INFLUENCE OF ALCOHOL.

TEXAS SCHOOL SURVEY SAYS 47% OF HIGH SCHOOLERS HAVE HAD ALCOHOL THIS MONTH? 30% OF MIDDLE SCHOOLERS ALREADY HAVE DRINK.

NORTH TEXAS IS NOT EXEMPT FROM THAT.

WE'RE TALKING 12-18 YEARS OLD.

WHY WOULD WE WANT TO NORMALIZE ALCOHOL AT A YOUTH SPORTS FACILITY? DO WE WANT THEM TO KNOW THAT PART OF THE PREP THING IS TO CRACK OPEN A COLD ONE? YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT THESE SPECIAL EVENTS? ANY SPECIAL EVENT ANYWHERE, YOU'RE PROBABLY GOING TO FIND ALCOHOL.

WHY CAN'T WE BE DIFFERENT? WHY CAN'T THIS BE AN ALCOHOL FREE ZONE WHERE PARENTS WITH CHILDREN WHO CARE ABOUT THE INFLUENCE OF THE ALCOHOL CAN COME AND FEEL SAFE? BECAUSE THE RETURN ON ALCOHOL IS TREMENDOUS.

I'VE BEEN A SERVER, AND YOU DON'T MAKE MONEY ON THE FOOD.

YOU MAKE MONEY ON THE BOOZE, AND WHEN IT COMES TO TOURNAMENTS AND GETTING OUTSIDE INVESTMENT, THEY WANT ALCOHOL OR LIKE THE BIG STORES, THEY'RE NOT COMING.

IS THIS A FAMILY EVENT, OR IS THIS A MONETARY THING? THEY'RE GOING TO BE FINE, BUT OF COURSE, THEY'RE GOING TO DO BETTER IF YOU LET THEM SELL ALCOHOL, AND I'M SO SORRY TO SEE THE CHANGE IN THE CONCESSION STAND.

MY SON HAS BEEN A PARENT, A COACH, AND IS NOW AN UMPIRE, WITH TWO OF HIS KIDS BEING UMPIRES.

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THEY USED TO GET A LOUSY HOT DOG AND A COLD BOTTLE OF WATER EVERY GAME THEY UMPIRED.

SOMETIMES THEY'RE OUT THERE FROM NINE IN THE MORNING TILL FIVE, BUT NOT NOW, BECAUSE IT'S PROFITS.

IT DOESN'T PROFIT THAT COMPANY TO GIVE AWAY A LOUSY HOT DOG AND A COLD BOTTLE OF WATER TO THESE UMPIRES WHO ARE OUT HERE MAKING IT POSSIBLE FOR THESE KIDS TO PLAY BASEBALL.

KIDS WERE ABLE TO GET A JOB THERE AT 14 YEARS OF AGE TO EARN MONEY, RESPONSIBILITY, TO BE MENTORED, EARN GAS MONEY.

NOPE. IF IT'S EVER GOING TO BE ALCOHOL, THEN THEY DARN WELL GOT TO BE 21, NOT 18.

IS THIS A COMMUNITY, OR IS THIS A MONEY MAKING THING? ARE WE SELLING OUR SOULS FOR HAPPY HOUR? I UNDERSTAND YOU TWO GENTLEMEN ARE IN THE MINORITY, BUT I THINK MOM AND LITTLE GIRL AND I REPRESENT A BIGGER MAJORITY.

UNFORTUNATELY, PEOPLE JUST DON'T KNOW THIS STUFF IS GOING ON.

I JUST FOUND OUT WHO WAS THE LADY? JACKIE, JONES OR WHATEVER THAT POSTED.

WHEN I SAW THAT, I WAS ALREADY TUCKED IN MY PAJAMAS BECAUSE I'D ALREADY HAD A LONG DAY, AND I'M LIKE, I GOT TO GET OUT THERE AND SAY SOMETHING.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU, MA'AM.

>> NEXT SPEAKER CARD I HAVE IS ROCKY TUCKER.

>> HI. I'M ROCKY TUCKER.

I HAVE LIVED IN BURLESON FOR 30 YEARS.

I'VE BEEN HERE MY WHOLE LIFE.

I HAVE FOUR LITTLE GIRLS.

THREE OF THEM HAVE PLAYED SOFTBALL AT CHISENHALL WITH BYA.

ONE NO LONGER DOES, BUT TWO STILL PLAY.

I HAVE ANOTHER ONE THAT WILL START PLAYING IN THE SPRING, AND I DO NOT WANT HER AROUND ALCOHOL.

I DON'T WANT ANY OF THEM AROUND IT WHEN THEY'RE PLAYING SOFTBALL.

I HAVE SEEN THIS WEEK.

WE HAD I'M A COACH.

I HELP COACH MY DAUGHTER'S TEE BALL TEAM, AND WE HAD A PARENT THAT PHYSICALLY WALKED OVER AND FOUND ONE OF THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS, SCREAMED AT HER, CUSSED AT HER, WITHOUT THE INFLUENCE OF ALCOHOL.

JUST A BAD CALL IT WAS SILLY. IT HAPPENED.

IT'S NOT THE SAME GRIEVANCE THAT THEY'RE HAVING A MEETING OVER TONIGHT.

IT'S A DIFFERENT THING.

IF WE INTRODUCE ALCOHOL IN THAT SPACE, YOU'RE LOOKING AT THAT TIMES 10.

YOU'RE LOOKING AT THREE A NIGHT, NOT ONE A NIGHT, NOT TWO A NIGHT, THREE, FIVE, SEVEN WE'VE HAD COACHES THAT HAVE GOTTEN IN FIGHTS WITH PARENTS OVER THINGS.

THERE'S ALL DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES THAT YOU'RE PUTTING YOURSELF AT RISK FOR.

I HAPPEN TO KNOW THAT BYA CONCESSIONS WERE UP 168% THIS YEAR.

THEY MADE $342,000.

I DON'T THINK THERE'S A REASON TO INTRODUCE ALCOHOL TO THAT TO MAKE MORE THAN 168% MORE THAN WHAT THEY MADE BEFORE.

SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT IS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE HEIGHTENED EMOTIONS.

WE WANT OUR KIDS TO WIN.

THEY DON'T WIN. WE GET MAD.

WE WANT OUR KIDS TO DO WELL, PLAY WELL, A KID STRIKES OUT.

THEIR DAD GETS UPSET WITH THEM.

WE DON'T WANT THAT HURTING THE KID AS WELL IT'S NOT JUST PARENTS AND PARENTS.

IT'S NOT JUST UMPIRES AND PARENTS.

IT'S PARENTS WITH THEIR CHILDREN AT THE END OF THE NIGHT, THEY'RE UPSET THAT THEIR SON STRUCK OUT.

THAT'S SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT, TOO.

WE'RE HERE FOR OUR KIDS. I ASKED MY 10-YEAR-OLD.

I SAID, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS? SHE SAID, THAT'S CRAZY.

THIS IS A PLACE FOR KIDS, SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

>> THANK YOU.

>> MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I DO HAVE TWO ONLINE SPEAKER CARDS.

THE FIRST SPEAKER CARD IS JAQUELINE JONES.

I WISH COUNSEL WOULD RECONSIDER ALLOWING ALCOHOL AT CHISENHALL SPORTS COMPLEX.

ALCOHOL DOESN'T NEED TO BE AT CHILDREN'S SPORTING EVENTS AT ALL.

LET'S SET AN EXAMPLE AND HAVE A SAFE AND SOBER SPORTS COMPLEX FOR ALL CHILDREN.

THE NEXT SPEAKER CARD IS MONIQUE NAVARRO.

SAY NO TO ALCOHOL AT CHISENHALL FIELDS? YOUTH SPORTS SHOULD BE CHILD FOCUS, NOT ADULT FOCUS, NOR FUELED BY ALCOHOL? CHISENHALL ALREADY HAS SEEN THREATS, AGGRESSION, AND POLICE INTERVENTION FROM OUR LOCAL LEAGUE.

ADDING ALCOHOL WILL ESCALATE TENSIONS AND ENDANGER KIDS.

THERE'S BETTER WAYS TO RAISE REVENUE, HOST CLINICS, OFFER VIP SEATING, PARTNER WITH SPONSORSHIP, EXPAND FESTIVALS, AND RENT FIELDS FOR ADULT LEADS.

LET'S PROTECT KIDS EVENTS.

IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM?

>> COUNSEL? ANYBODY GOT ANYTHING?

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>> JUST WANT TO REITERATE THAT WE DID SAY NO ALCOHOL SALES FOR BYA EVENTS AND REGULAR LEAGUE EVENTS, WHETHER IT'S BYA OR SOME OTHER GROUP IN THE FUTURE.

WE DID SAY NO TO THAT.

WHAT WE'RE TONIGHT, AGAIN, THE ORDINANCE THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING IS JUST THE ABILITY TO SELL ALCOHOL.

THEN I BELIEVE WE'RE GOING TO REVISIT THE POLICY, AGAIN, WHERE WE CAN GET INTO MAYBE WE DO CONSIDER IT'S 18 AND YOUNGER TARGET AUDIENCE.

THIS IS MEANING IF IT'S A TOURNAMENT THAT INVOLVES MIXED AGES, THEN THAT WOULDN'T BE ONE THAT THEY'RE CONSIDERING, AND IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT NECESSARILY WE'RE GOING TO PURSUE.

BUT AS MENTIONED IN THE SECOND ONLINE SPEAKER CARD, THE ABILITY TO ATTRACT BIGGER TOURNAMENTS, PARTICULARLY ADULT TOURNAMENTS.

THE SOFTBALL FIELDS AT HIDDEN CREEK WILL BE DEMOLISHED VERY SOON, AND WHILE WE WILL BE BUILDING NEW ONES AT THE FUTURE COMMUNITY PARK OFF OF ASBURY AND HON.

WE KNOW THAT THAT HAS BEEN OF INTEREST.

THOSE OPPORTUNITIES FOR ADULT LEAGUE THINGS AND ADULT TARGETED AUDIENCES HAVE BEEN EXPRESSED TO OUR CITY BEFORE.

BUT BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T ALLOWED ALCOHOL SALES AT THOSE FIELDS, IT DIDN'T TYPICALLY WIN THOSE BIDS.

AGAIN, JUST WANT TO REITERATE, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT BYA.

WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT CHILDREN SPECIFIC TARGETED EVENTS, IF IT'S A SPECIAL CONCERT OR FOURTH OF JULY OR SOMETHING, THAT'S A SPECIAL EVENT, GIVING THE CONTRACTOR, THE SFC COMPANY THAT WILL BE MANAGING DAY TO DAY OPERATIONS AT THE FIELDS LIKE THE FLEXIBILITY TO RECRUIT DIFFERENT TYPES OF EVENTS FOR THE FIELDS THAT DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO SOLELY BE SPORTS.

>> ANYONE ELSE?

>> I HAVE ONE OF THE THINGS I HAVEN'T THOUGHT ABOUT THAT CAME TO MY ATTENTION WHILE THE GUEST SPEAKERS WERE SPEAKING, THE CITIZENS.

WAS THAT A LOT OF PARENTS, I FEEL LIKE TO RAISE THEIR CHILDREN AWAY FROM THE INFLUENCE OF ALCOHOL, AND THEY SHOULD HAVE THAT RIGHT.

IF THEY WANT TO PLAY SOFTBALL AND THEIR CHOICE IN LIFE FOR THEIR CHILDREN IS NOT TO BE INFLUENCED BY ALCOHOL, THEN WE SHOULDN'T MAKE THOSE DECISIONS TO CHANGE THE WAY THEY RESPECTFULLY WANT TO RAISE THEIR CHILDREN.

>> I DON'T DISAGREE WITH THAT. I HAVE LITTLES, AND MY SON HAS PLAYED THERE, AND I GO SUPPORT A NUMBER OF BABIES THAT PLAY OUT THERE.

I LOVE THAT THIS COMMUNITY INVESTED IN A FIELD COMPLEX THAT OUR KIDDOS FROM THIS TOWN CAN PLAY AND ENJOY.

AGAIN, I'M NOT LOOKING FOR US TO BE TARGETING CHILDREN.

I TRULY APPRECIATE RESPECT ANYONE'S OPINION ON WHETHER OR NOT THEY SHOULD HAVE THEIR KIDS AROUND ALCOHOL, BUT AGAIN, AS STATED AT YOU CAN COME DOWN HERE TO THE PLAZA FOR A CONCERT.

THEY'RE POTENTIALLY SOMEBODY DRINKING BEER NEXT TO YOU.

IT'S VERY SIMILAR.

WE HAD TO PASS AN ORDINANCE SIMILARLY BECAUSE THIS IS CONSIDERED COMMUNITY SPACE TO BE ABLE TO SELL ALCOHOL OR PROVIDE ALCOHOL ON THESE SPACES TOO.

>> THIS IS TOUGH. I WANT TO THANK THE SPEAKERS THAT CAME UP, YOU SHED A LIGHT ON IT FOR ME.

I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THE 18-YEAR-OLDS.

WE'VE GOT EVERYTHING IN PLACE TO SHUT IT DOWN IF WE NEED TO.

I APPRECIATE WHAT PHIL HAS SAID.

I'VE BEEN MY SON IS 42 YEARS OLD.

I REMEMBER WHEN HE PLAYED THE LITTLE LEAGUE, AND I WAS AN OLDER PARENT, AND SOME OF THESE PEOPLE IN THE STAND ARE IDIOTS.

I MEAN, YOU CAN'T PUT IT ANY OTHER WAY TO SAY THE THINGS THAT THEY SAY TO A 8-YEAR-OLD KID IS AMAZING.

I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND SUPPORT THIS WITH ALL THE GUIDELINES WE'RE PUTTING ON.

I DO RESPECT WHAT CHILDREN'S WANTING.

I REALLY DO.

BUT THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY HERE FOR THE REVENUE.

I KNOW IT'S ABOUT THE DOLLAR AMOUNT.

BUT WE HAVE TO SUPPORT THESE PARKS.

THE BRICK, THE GOLF COURSE, AND WE ARE JUST NOW GETTING TO A POINT WHERE WE'RE NOT HAVING TO PICK UP THE WHOLE TAB.

IF YOU ALL HADN'T LOOKED LATELY, WE HAD TO GO UP ON OUR PROPERTY TAX RATE BECAUSE WE HAVE HAD AN INCREASE OF 28% ACROSS THE BOARD.

IT IS ABOUT THE MONEY. IT REALLY IS.

BUT IT'S ALSO BRINGING IN OTHER REVENUE TO OUR RESTAURANTS AND OTHER STUFF.

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BILL JOHNS HAS SPOKE SEVERAL TIMES ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT COMES IN, AND IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT THE ALCOHOL, BUT IT DOES HELP TO BRING ON.

I'M TRUSTING OUR CHIEF, OUR POLICE THAT THEIR WORD IS GOING TO BE SOLID.

I'M SORRY, BUT I'M STILL FOR IT.

>> I'M GOING TO HAVE TO DISAGREE ON YOU ABOUT THE FACT THAT IT'S ABOUT THE MONEY AND WE NEED THE MONEY TO RUN THIS CITY.

THERE'S NOT THAT MUCH MONEY BROUGHT IN ON THE ALCOHOL SO [OVERLAPPING].

>> I DIDN'T SAY THAT, LARRY. I DIDN'T SAY [OVERLAPPING].

>> ACCORDING TO THE PERFORMER THAT I SAW.

I THINK THE CITIZENS HAVE SPOKEN.

I THINK THEY NEED TO BE HEARD.

I'M GOING TO HAVE TO STICK TO MY GUNS AND SAY THAT IF A PARENT WANTS TO BRING THEIR CHILD UP, NOT EXPOSED TO ALCOHOL, THEN WE SHOULDN'T CHANGE AND MAKE THAT DECISION FOR THEM IF THEY WANT TO PLAY SOFTBALL IN THIS CITY.

THESE FIELDS WERE BUILT A LONG TIME BEFORE I GOT ON COUNCIL.

I'VE WATCHED KIDS PLAY OUT THERE.

I KNOW A GOOD THING FROM A BAD THING.

I'M AGAINST THE ALCOHOL SALES DURING ANY GAMES WITH THEIR YOUTHS ON THOSE FIELDS.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE COMMENT ABOUT BILL JOHNS MAKING DECISIONS FOR US.

WE MAKE OUR OWN DECISIONS BASED ON WHAT WE GET FEEDBACK WE GET FROM THE CITIZENS.

>> BILL WAS A SPEAKER, JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE WAS TONIGHT.

HE MADE GOOD POINTS.

I DON'T REMEMBER ANYBODY UP HERE DOING WHAT BILL SAYS HALF THE TIME.

I THINK WE'VE JUST ABOUT USED THIS UP, HAVEN'T WE? IS THERE A MOTION ON THIS?

>> I'M GOING TO MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 5B.

I DON'T WANT THAT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MY ENDORSEMENT OF SELLING ALCOHOL AT YOUTH GAMES.

THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS VOTE IS ABOUT.

WE'LL GET TO THAT ITEM LATER ON.

WE PROBABLY WILL RECONSIDER THE AGE.

I WOULDN'T BE OPPOSED TO HAVING ANOTHER DISCUSSION, BUT THIS ISN'T WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON TONIGHT.

WE'RE VOTING ON THE ABILITY TO SELL ALCOHOL AT EVENTS AS APPROPRIATE.

I DON'T WANT TO COMPROMISE ANYBODY'S FAMILY VALUES AT ALL WHATSOEVER.

BUT I MOVE TO APPROVE 5B, AS IT'S WRITTEN.

>> I HAVE A MOTION BY DAN AND A SECOND BY ALEXA.

PLEASE VOTE.

PASSAGES FIVE, FOUR, AND TWO NODES.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

[5.C. Consider and take possible action on a mutual aid agreement between the City of Burleson and Acadian Ambulance Service to provide third-party ambulance support, establishing a clear framework to ensure licensed ambulance transport coverage when system demand exceeds available resources during emergency and non-emergency incidents. (Staff Contact: Casey Davis, Fire Chief]

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM 5C.

CONSIDER AND TAKE POSSIBLE ACTION ON A MUTUAL AID AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF BURLESON, ACADIAN AMBULANCE SERVICE TO PROVIDE THIRD-PARTY AMBULANCE SUPPORT, ESTABLISHING A CLEAR FRAMEWORK TO ENSURE LICENSED AMBULANCE TRANSPORT COVERAGE WHEN SYSTEM DEMAND EXCEEDS AVAILABLE RESOURCES DURING EMERGENCY AND NON-EMERGENCY INCIDENTS.

THE STAFF PRESENTED THIS EVENING IS FIRE CHIEF, CASEY DAVIS. MR. DAVIS.

>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

YOU HAPPY TO GO THROUGH THIS PRESENTATION FOR YOU IF YOU'D LIKE AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.

WHAT WE'RE BRINGING BEFORE YOU TODAY IS JUST ANOTHER MUTUAL AID OPPORTUNITY OPTION FOR OUR AMBULANCE SERVICE.

RIGHT NOW, THE PRIMARY ROLE OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IS TO BE FOCUSED ON MANAGING ALL OF THE AMBULANCE TRANSPORTS IN THE CITY, WHETHER THAT'S 911 AND ALSO INTERFACILITY.

CURRENTLY, CAREFLITE TAKES CARE OF THE VAST MAJORITY OF ALL OF OUR INTERFACILITY OPERATIONS, AND THEY BACK US UP ON THE 911 SIDE.

THEY'RE STATIONED IN OUR FIRE STATIONS, AS YOU KNOW, TO BE AVAILABLE IN OUR COMMUNITY AS WELL AS TO THE COUNTY AREA.

THIS NEW AGREEMENT WITH ACADIA WOULD BRING ABOUT ANOTHER PARTNER THAT COULD BE AVAILABLE FOR INTER-FACILITY TRANSFERS AND OR 911 WHEN CAREFLITES NOT AVAILABLE.

IT WOULD STILL BE OUR INTENT THAT CAREFLITE WOULD BE OUR FIRST IMMEDIATE AVAILABLE RESOURCE TO US.

BUT ACADIA IS NEW TO THE REGION.

AS YOU ALL KNOW, THE MEDSTAR SYSTEM COME UNDER THE UMBRELLA OF THE FORT FIRE DEPARTMENT.

THEY ARE NOT LICENSED TO DO INTERFACILITY TRANSFERS, SO WE LOST THAT PARTNERSHIP WITH WHAT WE HAD WITH MEDSTAR.

IT'S BEEN A LITTLE BIT UP IN THE AIR AS WHO IS GOING TO COME IN AND TAKE OVER THAT BOOK OF BUSINESS IN THE FORT WORTH AREA.

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ACADIA HAS SIGNED A CONTRACT WITH SEVERAL OF THE LARGE HOSPITAL SYSTEMS. TEXAS HEALTH RESOURCE BEING ONE OF THOSE, WHICH IS THE HOSPITAL SYSTEM IN BURLESON THAT WE DO THE INTER-FACILITY TRANSPORTS FOR.

THROUGH CONVERSATIONS WITH THR AND ACADIA, IT SEEMED LIKE A NATURAL FIT TO BRING THEM ON AS AN OPTION, IF AND WHEN WE NEED TO UTILIZE THOSE SERVICES.

AGAIN, HERE, SO MAINTAINING 911 RESPONSE INTEGRITY OBVIOUSLY, THAT'S WHERE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IS, THE MAJORITY OF THE TIME.

THEN, AS I NOTE HERE, CROWLEY AND FORT WORTH, THEY'RE SET UP MORE FOR THE 911 CALLS NOT THE INTERFACILITIES.

ACADIA COULD HELP US WITH THAT.

AGAIN, THIS WOULD STILL BE THROUGH COMMUNICATIONS IN THE BATTALION CHIEF ON DUTY AND OR MYSELF, OR ONE OF THE ASSISTANT CHIEFS, IF WE NEEDED TO MAKE A CALL OR A DECISION IN REAL TIME WHENEVER WE'RE DEALING WITH THIS, BUT OUR SYSTEM WOULD FIRST GO TO CAREFLITE AND THEN TO ACADIA, AND THEN TO OUR OWN SYSTEM.

THIS HERE JUST SHOWS YOU HOW MANY INTER-FACILITY TRANSFERS WE'VE HAD FOR THIS CALENDAR YEAR.

SO FAR, TYPICALLY, IT'S AROUND 1,200.

FOR THIS CALENDAR YEAR WHENEVER WAS PUTTING THIS PRESENTATION TOGETHER.

YOU CAN SEE CAREFLITE IS DOING THE VAST MAJORITY.

THE FIRE DEPARTMENT A LITTLE BIT.

THEN BEFORE MEDSTAR WENT OUT IN JULY, THEY HAD DONE ABOUT FIVE FOR US.

I DON'T HAVE A GOOD NUMBER OF WHERE I THINK ACADIA IS GOING TO BE, BUT I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE SOMEWHERE IN THAT 50-100 RANGE.

IT'S NOT GOING TO BE OFTEN THAT WE'RE GOING TO UTILIZE THAT SERVICE, BUT IT'LL JUST BE AN OPTION THAT WHENEVER CAREFLITE IS BUSY, WE'RE BUSY, WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY WHEN WE NEED THAT.

>> CHIEF, SO IT'S CAREFLITE FIRST, THEN ACADIA AND THEN US.

>> CORRECT.

>> I WANT TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE TAKING CARE OF OUR PEOPLE.

MOST IMPORTANTLY, THAT WE KEEP UP THE INTEGRITY OF OUR 911 SERVICE, WHEN SOMEBODY NEEDS US, THAT WE'RE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THAT CALL.

HOPEFULLY, IT BE BURLESON EMS FIRST AND FOREMOST, AND THEN OUR MUTUAL ED AGREEMENTS COME IN AFTER US.

BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I AM VERY IN FAVOR OF THIS.

I'M VERY GLAD THAT YOU SOUGHT OUT ANOTHER PARTNER.

I KNOW ONCE CAREFLITE TOOK ON ALL OF JOHNSON COUNTY, THEY GOT A LITTLE BUSIER.

APPROPRIATELY, THEY'RE RESPONDING TO MORE 911 CALLS AND NOT NECESSARILY ALWAYS AVAILABLE FOR THE INNER FACILITY TRANSFERS.

THESE ARE STILL PEOPLE THAT NEED THAT AMBULANCE TRANSPORT, AND JUST LAST MONTH, MY BABY GIRL NEEDED A TRANSPORT FROM HUGLEY TO COOK CHILDREN'S.

I'M VERY APPRECIATIVE OF THESE TYPE OF SERVICES.

IN THAT SITUATION, TEDDY BEAR TRANSPORT CAME TO GET HER, BUT STILL UNDERSTANDING THAT THESE ARE INDIVIDUALS THAT STILL NEED THAT MOBILE ER CARE TO GET FROM ONE FACILITY TO ANOTHER.

BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE TAKING CARE OF OUR PEOPLE AND NOT RUNNING THEM RAGGED AND THAT THEY ARE ABLE TO, ESPECIALLY WITH THE NEW 4896 SCHEDULE, THAT WE'RE KEEPING THEM AS FRESH AND READY TO GO FOR 911 CALLS AS WE CAN, AND LESS I'M SO GRATEFUL THAT YOU PURSUED ANOTHER CONTRACT SO THAT WE CAN SHARE THE LOAD. THANK YOU.

>> YES. NOW, I THINK YOU PUT THAT VERY WELL AND THAT'S THE NEXT SLIDE HERE.

THAT'S OUR PROPOSED HIERARCHY FOR THE INTERFACILITY TRANSFERS IS THAT THEY WOULD GO TO CAREFLITE FIRST.

IF CAREFLITE CAN'T MEET OUR METRICS FOR THAT, THEN WE'LL PASS IT ON TO ACADIAN, AND IF ACADIA CAN'T, THEN OBVIOUSLY WE WILL DEFINITELY MAKE SURE IT GETS TAKEN CARE OF WITHIN OUR CAPABILITIES AND PRIORITIZING OURSELVES FOR 911 FIRST AND FOREMOST.

>> THANKS FOR BRINGING THIS UP, CHIEF AND FOR BEING PROACTIVE, BECAUSE I WANTED TO BRING THIS UP TONIGHT IN CASE SOMEBODY IS WAITING FOR A TRANSFER AND THEY SEE AN ACADIAN AMBULANCE PULL UP AND WONDER WHAT'S GOING ON.

AT LEAST NOW. THEN IT'S REALLY TO HELP US FOCUS MORE ON THE 911, WHICH IS WHAT THEY WANT TO DO ANYWAY.

>> BUT I ALSO WANT TO POINT OUT, ACADIAN COULD ALSO COME FOR A 911 IF WE NEEDED THEM IN THAT SITUATION.

THE CONTRACT DOES GIVE US THAT ABILITY.

THEY DO HAVE THAT CAPABILITY.

IF OUR SYSTEM GOT OVERWHELMED, WE COULD UTILIZE THEM IN THAT SPACE TOO.

I THINK IT WOULD BE EXTREMELY RARE THAT WE FIND OURSELVES IN THAT SITUATION, BUT WE COULD FIND OURSELVES IN A MASS CASUALTY INCIDENT WHERE WE NEEDED THOSE RESOURCES AS WELL.

IT'S ANOTHER REASON TO ADD THAT SERVICE.

>> THAT'S GOOD.

>> ANYONE ELSE? IS THERE A MOTION ON THIS?

>> BEFORE WE HAVE A MOTION.

I NOTICED THAT ACADIAN IS LOCATED IN TARRANT, DALLAS, DENTON, COLIN, GRAYSON.

ARE THEY GOING TO BE AVAILABLE IN JOHNSON COUNTY TO MAKE THESE CALLS, OR THEY GOING TO HAVE TO COME OUT OF TARRANT OR DALLAS?

>> GREAT QUESTION. THEY ARE ALL OVER EAST TEXAS, ALL OVER DIFFERENT PARTS OF TEXAS, LOUISIANA.

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THEY HAVE A HUGE OPERATION ALL OVER.

THEY'RE NEW TO THE FORT WORTH AREA.

THEY'RE GOING TO BASICALLY BE HOUSED IN THE FORT WORTH HOSPITAL DISTRICT? RIGHT NOW.

IF WE NEEDED THEM, THAT'S WHENEVER THEY WOULD COME HERE FROM THAT AREA RIGHT NOW.

THEY WOULD NOT BE DOWN HERE IN OUR AREA OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

FOR INTER-FACILITY TRANSFERS WHERE IT'S SCHEDULED, WE CAN CALL AND GET THEM SCHEDULED TO COME IN.

THAT'S REALLY THE PRIMARY.

BUT IF IT GOT SUPER BUSY, WE CAN UTILIZE THEM IN THAT SITUATION, SO AT LEAST THE RESOURCES COMING TO HELP.

>> HERE'S THE DIRTY PART OF IT.

WITH A MUTUAL AGREEMENT, ALSO CONSIDER THE BILLING?

>> THEY WOULD BILL FOR THEIR SERVICES JUST LIKE CAREFLITE DOES, BUT THEY CAN'T GO ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT RATES YOU ALL HAVE SET FOR THE CITY OF BURLESON?

>> THANK YOU.

>> YES, SIR.

>> THEY'RE STILL FORGIVING OF PEOPLE NOT BEING ABLE TO PAY, LIKE WE DO?

>> THEY HAVE THEIR OWN BILLING SYSTEM, BUT YOU ALL HAVE SET RATES OF WHAT WE CAN BILL HERE IN THE CITY OF BURLESON.

THEY WOULD HAVE TO HOLD TO THE SAME BILLING RATES.

THEY COULDN'T GO ABOVE THOSE RATES, ESSENTIALLY.

>> ANYBODY ELSE?

>> I DID JUST COMPLETELY OFF.

BUT I WAS DRIVING BACK FROM DENTON YESTERDAY, AND I SAW A COMPLETELY BLACKED-OUT AMBULANCE, AND IT LOOKED LIKE IT WASN'T A NEW ONE.

IT SAID METROPOLITAN EMS. DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THAT? THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME I', SEEING.

>> I'M FAMILIAR WITH THAT COMPANY, BUT WITH THEM CHANGING THE MODEL IN FORT WORTH, THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF PRIVATE SERVICES COMING INTO TOWN THAT YOU'RE PROBABLY NOT FAMILIAR WITH, INDIVIDUAL NURSING HOMES AND HOSPITALS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I'VE TALKED TO CITY MANAGER LUDWIG, A GREAT LINK, THAT I WANT TO BE VERY CAREFUL OF WHO WE ALLOW TO COME IN.

THAT'S WHY I LIKE THROUGH THE MUTUAL A, THAT WE CAN VET THAT.

THEN WE CALL FOR THEM WHEN WE NEED THAT HELP INSTEAD OF IT JUST BEING WHOMEVER, WHATEVER FACILITY WOULD LIKE TO CALL.

BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S NOT SOMEONE THAT DOESN'T HAVE THE PROPER LICENSING OR DOESN'T LIVE UP TO THE STANDARDS THAT WE WOULD LIKE FOR OUR CITIZENS TO RECEIVE THAT CARE.

>> APPRECIATE THAT. BECAUSE I HAVE TO ADMIT, IF I SAW THAT PULL UP TO MY HOUSE, I WOULD WONDER IF I WAS GOING TO THE HOSPITAL OR THE MORGUE. IT TRIPPED OUT BY IT.

I WAS LIKE, THAT'S CREEPY, AND IT LOOKED VERY, I'M GLAD WE'RE BETTING APPROPRIATELY THAT WE'RE ENSURING THAT THEY'RE AT OUR STANDARD BECAUSE THEY'RE ASSOCIATED WITH US.

PEOPLE AREN'T WHEN IN AN EMERGENCY SITUATION, THEY'RE NOT GOING, WHO CAME TO GET ME AGAIN? THEY'RE JUST GOING TO THINK IT'S OUR GUYS, NO MATTER WHAT.

I MADE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS ITEM.

>> I'VE GOT A MOTION BY VICTORIA AND SECOND BY ADAM.

PLEASE VOTE. AMANDA, ARE YOU OKAY WITH THIS? PASS IS UNANIMOUS.

>> I APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

[5.G. Consider and take possible action on a minute order adopting the 2026 Council Meeting Calendar. (Staff Contact: Monica Solko, Deputy City Secretary)]

THAT BRINGS US TO 5G.

CONSIDER AND TAKE POSSIBLE ACTION ON A MINUTE ORDER ADOPTING THE 2026 COUNCIL MEETING CALENDAR.

THE STAFF PRESENTED THIS EVENING IS MONICA SOLKO DEPUTY CITY SECRETARY.

>> WE DIDN'T LOAD THE PRESENTATION, BUT I AM GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THE 2026 PROPOSED COUNCIL MEETING CALENDAR.

I BELIEVE WE HAD SOME QUESTIONS REGARDING THE CALENDAR.

>> REALLY, THE ONLY CHANGE I WOULD REQUEST IS THAT OUR SECOND MARCH MEETING IS CURRENTLY SCHEDULED FOR SPRING BREAK.

IT'S BURLESON, SPRING BREAK JOHNSON SPRING BREAK, AS WELL AS NLC, I BELIEVE IS THAT WEEK.

THE RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO CHANGE THAT TO MARCH 23RD.

BUT OTHERWISE, LEAVE THE REST OF THE CALENDAR THE SAME.

>> ANY DISCUSSION?

>> IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT HAD ANY OTHER OBJECTIONS TO ANY OF THE OTHER DATES?

>> WE STILL HAVE ONE IN JULY AND THEN, ONE IN NOVEMBER AND ONE IN DECEMBER.

>> CORRECT.

>> I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THAT UP.

I WAS VERY IN FAVOR OF THAT CHANGE.

>> IF YOU'LL JUST MAKE SURE THAT YOU MAKE THAT PART OF THE MOTION.

>> YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION?

>> SURE.

>> IS EVERYBODY GOOD WITH THIS? EVERYBODY CHECKED?

>> I'M MOVE TO APPROVE 5G WITH A CHANGE OF MOVING THE MARCH 16TH, 2026 MEETING TO MARCH 23RD, 2026.

>> I HAVE A MOTION BY ADAM A SECOND BY VICTORIA.

PLEASE VOTE. IS UNANIMOUS.

[01:05:04]

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

[6.A. 2520 CR 913 (Case 25-259): Hold a public hearing and consider and take possible action on an ordinance for a zoning change request from “A” Agricultural to “C” Commercial for future development. (Staff Contact: Tony McIlwain, Development Services Director) (The Planning and Zoning Commission recommended approval 8-0)]

THAT BRINGS US TO SECTION 6 DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS, 6A IS 2520 COUNTY ROAD 913, CASE 25-259.

TONIGHT'S TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER AND TAKE POSSIBLE ACTION ON AN ORDINANCE FOR A ZONING CHANGE REQUEST FROM A AGRICULTURAL TO C COMMERCIAL FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.

THE STAFF PRESENTER THIS EVENING IS DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DIRECTOR TONY MCLAIN. MR. MCLAIN.

>> YES, THANK YOU, AMANDA.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

THIS IS YEAR 1 ZONING CASE ON THIS EVENING'S AGENDA.

MR. PAUL JOHNSON IS THE APPLICANT FOR THIS CASE.

THE PROPERTY ITSELF IS LOCATED AT THE CORNER OF FM1902 AND COUNTER 0913.

WHAT HE'S LOOKING TO DO IS TO REZONE THE PROPERTY FOR PROSPECTIVE COMMERCIAL USE.

PROPERTIES CURRENTLY ZONED AGRICULTURAL AND SITS IN THE CHISHOLM TRAIL CORRIDOR.

THAT ZONING RATHER THAT FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATION CONTEMPLATES FUTURE ZONINGS OF COMMERCIAL OR GENERAL RETAIL.

THIS IS WHAT'S ALLOWED BY RIGHT IN THE COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT, AND YOU HAVE THE LIST STARTING WITH AMUSEMENTS DOWN TO WHOLESALE SALES AND STORAGE.

SUP PERMITS ARE REQUIRED FOR ANY OF THE USES THAT YOU SEE TO THE RIGHT OF THE SCREEN.

THIS PROPERTY HAS NOT BEEN PLATTED.

OF COURSE, THERE IS NO COMMERCIAL SITE PLAN.

ANY DEVELOPMENT THAT OCCURS OF A COMMERCIAL NATURE WILL TRIGGER COMMERCIAL SITE PLAN, CIVIL CONSTRUCTION REVIEWS AND THE LIKE.

BECAUSE THE SURROUNDING AREA IS MUCH UNDEVELOPED, LANDSCAPING SCREENING AND PARKING WILL REVIEWED AT THE COMMERCIAL SITE PLAN PHASE AS WELL.

TRANSITIONAL SCREENING WILL BE REQUIRED ALONG THE ENTIRETY OF THE NORTHERN PROPERTY, EXCEPT WITH VISIBILITY TRIANGLES ARE REQUIRED THAT'S TO PREVENT ANY ISSUES WITH SEEING AT THE CORNER.

WE PUT NOTICE IN THE NEWSPAPER AND HAD A MEETING WITH THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

RECEIVED NO FORMAL OPPOSITION.

STAFF IS IN SUPPORT OF THE APPROVAL OF THE ORDINANCE, AND ALSO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ALSO RECOMMEND APPROVAL BY VOTE OF 8-0.

I'D LIKE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

>> ANYBODY? I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 7:21.

IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS? THEN I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 7:22. IS THERE A MOTION?

>> I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

>> SECOND THAT MOTION.

>> I GOT A MOTION BY ALEXA AND SECOND BY LARRY.

PLEASE VOTE. LARRY. PASS IS UNANIMOUS.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

[7.A. Consider and take possible action on a resolution formally requesting that the Board of Directors of the Central Appraisal District of Johnson County (JCAD) direct a reappraisal of commercial property within the district to ensure appraisals are accurate and equitable. (Staff Contact: Harlan Jefferson, Deputy City Manager) ]

THAT BRINGS US TO SECTION 7 GENERAL, 7A IS TO CONSIDER AND TAKE POSSIBLE ACTION ON A RESOLUTION FORMALLY REQUESTING THAT THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF THE CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT OF JOHNSON COUNTY DIRECT A RE-APPRAISAL OF COMMERCIAL PROPERTY WITHIN THE DISTRICT TO ENSURE APPRAISALS ARE ACCURATE AND EQUITABLE.

THE STAFF PRESENTER THIS EVENING IS HARLAN JEFFERSON, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER. MR. JEFFERSON.

>> THANK YOU, MS. CAMPOS. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR.

MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. I KNOW THAT YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE BACKGROUND OF THE CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT.

I'LL TRY TO BRIEFLY WALK THROUGH THESE.

I'M GOING TO WALK THROUGH SOME OF THE BACKGROUND FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC.

THE ROADMAP OR ITEMS I'LL TOUCH ON ARE THE CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT PURPOSE AND FUNCTION, THE LEGISLATIVE BACKGROUND, THE CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT CORE-RESPONSIBILITIES, THE REAPPRAISAL PLAN AND THE PURPOSE OF WHICH THAT PLAN WAS CREATED, THE FREQUENCY OF REAPPRAISALS AND THE MAJOR CHANGES THEY MADE.

THE CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT OF JOHNSON COUNTY MADE IN 2024.

OF PROPERTIES REQUIRING ANNUAL REAPPRAISALS, SUSTAINING 2024 VALUES, AS WELL AS THE BOARD APPROVAL REQUIREMENTS AND ANALYSIS OF THE POTENTIAL REVENUE IMPACT.

CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICTS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR LOCAL PROPERTY VALUES, AS WELL AS EXEMPTION ADMINISTRATION FOR ALL TAXING ENTITIES IN THEIR JURISDICTIONS.

THEIR MISSION IS TO ENSURE FAIR AND EQUITABLE PROPERTY VALUES, CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICTS WERE CREATED BACK IN 1980 AS PART OF THE TEXAS PROPERTY TAX CODE TO PROVIDE UNIFORM APPRAISAL VALUATION.

BEFORE THE CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICTS WERE CREATED,

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YOU HAD INDEPENDENT TAXING ENTITIES DEVELOPING THEIR OWN VALUATION.

YOU HAD INCONSISTENCIES IN TERMS OF VALUES, AS WELL AS INEQUITIES THAT EXISTED.

BEN SAID ANOTHER WAY, IF YOU HAD A PROPERTY THAT WAS APPRAISED BY FOUR DIFFERENT TAXING ENTITIES, THEN YOU HAD FOUR DIFFERENT VALUES, AND YOU RECEIVED FOUR DIFFERENT TAX BILLS, SO YOU HAVE TO GO TO FOUR DIFFERENT LOCATIONS TO PAY THOSE BILLS.

THE PROCESS THAT WE HAVE NOW ISN'T PERFECT, BUT IT'S FAR BETTER THAN THE PROCESS THEY DID REPLACED.

CADS ALSO HELPED ENSURE TRANSPARENCY AND STANDARDIZED VALUES FOR THEIR MEMBERS.

NOW IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DO, THEY APPRAISE REAL AND PERSONAL PROPERTY OF ALL THE PROPERTIES WITHIN THE DISTRICT.

THEY DETERMINE ELIGIBILITY FOR EXEMPTIONS, WHETHER IT'S HOMESTEAD, AGRICULTURES, VETERANS, SENIOR EXEMPTIONS, AS WELL AS DISABLED PERSON EXEMPTIONS.

THEY PRODUCE PROPERTY VALUATIONS THAT ALL THE TAX AND ENTITIES USE TO PRODUCE TAX LEVIES.

IN TERMS OF THE REAPPRAISAL PLAN, THE REAPPRAISAL PLAN REALLY LAYS OUT THE TIMING AND PROCESS USED FOR THE DISTRICT TO REAPPRAISE PROPERTY IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE TEXAS PROPERTY TAX CODE, AND IT TRIES TO ENSURE THAT PROPERTY VALUES ARE ACCURATE, CURRENT, AS WELL AS EQUITABLE.

NOW, THE CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT OF JOHNSON COUNTY CHANGED THE FREQUENCY WITH THE REAPPRAISAL PLAN, AND MOVED IT FROM ANNUAL REAPPRAISALS TO EVERY THREE YEARS, AND MARKET VALUES, ACCORDING TO THEM, WOULD NOT CHANGE UNLESS SUPPORTED BY CLEAR AND CONVINCING EVIDENCE AS LAID OUT IN THE TEXAS PROPERTY TAX CODE.

WITH THE ACTUAL LIMIT STILL REQUIRED TO BE EVALUATED ANNUALLY IS BUSINESS PERSONAL PROPERTY, MINERAL PROPERTIES, UTILITY PROPERTIES, AS WELL AS INDUSTRIAL PROPERTIES.

FOR A MOMENT, I'LL COMPARE THAT TO THE TAD APPRAISAL DISTRICTS REAPPRAISAL PLAN.

IN 2024, THEY ALSO APPROVED THE REAPPRAISAL PLAN, SIMILAR TO THE ONE HERE IN JOHNSON COUNTY.

IT STILL REQUIRED ANNUAL REAPPRAISALS OF ALL COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES, BUSINESS PERSONAL PROPERTIES, WHICH WAS SIMILAR TO THE ONE HERE IN JOHNSON COUNTY, MINERAL PROPERTIES, SAME AS THE ONE IN JOHNSON COUNTY AND INDUSTRIAL.

THE MAJOR DIFFERENCE IN TERMS OF PROPERTIES THAT'S EVALUATED ANNUALLY IS ALL COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES.

SPECIFICALLY, THE REAPPRAISAL PLAN REQUIRED THAT THE 2024 VALUES WOULD BE SUSTAINED AND KEPT IN PLACE FOR CALENDAR YEAR OR TAX YEAR 2025, AS WELL AS 2026, AND WOULDN'T BE REAPPRAISED UNTIL 2027 TAX YEAR.

THEN THEY HAVE A COUPLE OF EXCEPTIONS THAT THOSE ARE LISTED FOR THE CHANGES UNDER THE HOMESTEAD PROPERTY VALUES.

UNDER TEXAS PROPERTY TAX CODE 2023.23, IT SAID ANY MARKET VALUE THAT INCREASES BEYOND 10% COULDN'T BE APPLIED FOR THAT YEAR, WOULD HAVE TO ROLL TO THE NEXT YEAR.

THAT'S WHAT IT'S REFERRING TO THERE.

THE NEXT BULLET IS SIMILAR TO THAT.

IT'S REFERRED TO IT AS THE CIRCUIT BREAKER PROVISION, AND IT APPLIES TO PROPERTY THAT'S LESS THAN $5 MILLION, BUT BASICALLY DOESN'T HAVE A HOMESTEAD ON IT OR BUSINESS PERSONAL PROPERTY OR SPECIAL LAND EXEMPT PROPERTY AS WELL.

BASICALLY, COMMERCIAL PROPERTY WOULD GET THIS CIRCUIT-BREAKER PREVENTION OR PROTECTION.

IF YOUR PROPERTY VALUE INCREASES BY 30%, THE VALUE FOR MARKET THAT APPLY TO YOUR PROPERTY WOULD STOP AT 20 AND THEN OTHER 10% WOULD ROLL OVER TO THE FOLLOWING YEAR.

THEN THE REAPPRAISAL PLAN SPECIFICALLY LAYS OUT THAT REAPPRAISALS CAN ONLY OCCUR IF THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT MARKET CHANGES IN RESPONSE TO STATE STUDY RESULTS AS WELL AS PROPERTY VALUE DECREASE SUBSTANTIALLY.

EVEN THOUGH THE REAPPRAISAL PLAN DOESN'T REQUIRE REAPPRAISAL ON THE PROPERTY, THE STAFF IS STILL REQUIRED TO CONDUCT FIELD INSPECTIONS AND ANALYSIS.

THEY MAKE MARKET ADJUSTMENTS FOR A NEW PROPERTY THAT'S ADDED TO THE ROAD OR IF THEY FIND THAT PROPERTY WAS OMITTED IN PREVIOUS YEARS FROM EVALUATIONS, AND THEY STILL HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THE UNIFORM STANDARD OF PROFESSIONAL APPRAISAL PRACTICES.

NOW, THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT OF JOHNSON COUNTY, A CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT OF JOHNSON COUNTY, HAD THEIR STAFF PROVIDE WHAT THEY REFERRED TO AS STRATIFICATION REPORTS AT THEIR MONTHLY BOARD MEETING.

THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT OCCURRED IN SEPTEMBER,

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THE NUMBERS THAT THEY SHOWED, AND THEY SPECIFICALLY SHOW THEM FOR SCHOOL DISTRICTS, AND THEY TRACKED THEM, BUT WE REQUESTED INFORMATION FOR THE CITY OF BURLESON, BURLESON ISD, JOHNSON COUNTY, CLEBURNE, CITY OF CLEBURNE AND CLEBURNE ISD.

YOU CAN SEE BASED ON THE SALE DATA THAT THEY HAD, THEY HAD SHOWN THAT RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY VALUE WAS SLIGHTLY ABOVE 100% FOR THE CITY OF BURLESON BELOW 100% FOR MULTI-FAMILY AS WELL AS RURAL LAND AND COMMERCIAL PROPERTY AND AS LOW AS 65.66% FOR COMMERCIAL FOR THE CITY OF BURLESON.

YOU CAN SEE THAT THE OTHER JURISDICTIONS WERE ALSO BELOW 100% FOR RESIDENTIAL MULTI-FAMILY RURAL LAND AND SUBSTANTIALLY BELOW OR FOR COMMERCIAL PROPERTY AS WELL.

I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THEY BASE THIS ON DATA FROM JUNE OF 2024 THROUGH SEPTEMBER OF 2025.

THEY UPDATED THE NUMBERS IN OCTOBER AND SHORTEN THE TIME FRAME, AND THAT WAS BASED ON DATA FROM JANUARY 2025 THROUGH OCTOBER OF 2025.

THIS PERCENTAGES CHANGED SUBSTANTIALLY BETWEEN THOSE TWO MONTHS.

THAT'S BECAUSE THIS DATA WAS BASED ON SOMEWHERE AROUND 10 SALES FOR COMMERCIAL PROPERTY, JUST LOOKING AT COMMERCIAL, AND IT DROPPED CLOSER TO APPROXIMATELY FIVE SALES FOR COMMERCIAL PROPERTY WITH A SHORTER TIME FRAME.

THE NUMBER OF SALES THEY LOOKED AT WAS ALMOST CUT IN HALF.

I MAKE THAT POINT TO SAY, BECAUSE OF THOSE FEW DATA POINTS, WE'RE NOT REALLY CLAIMING THAT THESE ARE ACTUALLY WHERE THE VALUE IS GOING TO BE.

WE'RE SIMPLY SAYING THE DATA SUPPORTS THAT THEY SHOULD DO REAPPRAISAL MORE FREQUENTLY THAN WHAT THEY'RE CURRENTLY ON SCHEDULE FOR.

THAT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS SLIDE, IT SHOWS IF THE DATA ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE WAS APPLIED TO ALL OF OUR TAX BASE, HERE'S HOW MUCH THE VALUES WILL BE IMPACTED.

REVENUE FROM RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY FOR THE CITY OF BURLESON WOULD INCREASE BY 119,000.

BUT MULTI-FAMILY VALUES REVENUE WOULD DECREASE BY OVER 147,000 RURAL LAND VALUES WOULD DECREASE OR REVENUE WOULD DECREASE BY OVER 293,000 AND 1.6 MILLION FOR COMMERCIAL PROPERTY FOR A TOTAL OF 1.9 MILLION.

YOU CAN SEE THE NUMBERS FOR THE BURLESON ISD AS WELL, DECREASING BY A TOTAL OF 4 MILLION.

JOHNSON COUNTY WOULD DECREASE BY OVER $6.7 MILLION, AND ALL THE ONES ON THE SLIDE, IF YOU ADD IT UP, WOULD DECREASE BY 15.3 MILLION.

AGAIN, I BELIEVE WE HAVE FEW DATA POINTS, SO WE'RE NOT ARGUING THAT THIS IS THE EXACT IMPACT.

WE'RE SIMPLY SAYING BECAUSE OF THE DATA, THEY'VE BEEN SHOWING THE BOARD, THAT IT MERITS THAT THEY DO REAPPRAISALS MORE FREQUENTLY.

>> THEN WE WENT ONE STEP FURTHER.

WE WENT BACK FIVE YEAR PERIOD TO SEE THE RATIO BETWEEN THE RESIDENTIAL MARKET VALUE AND COMMERCIAL MARKET VALUE FOR THE CITY OF BURLESON.

A LOT OF COMMUNITIES WOULD SET GOALS FOR THIS CALCULATION.

THEY MIGHT WANT 90% RESIDENTIAL AND 10% COMMERCIAL OR 80/20 OR 70/30 DEPENDING ON DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES.

WE WANT THAT INCREASED COMMERCIAL VALUE FOR A COUPLE OF REASONS.

ONE, IT NORMALLY EQUATES TO JOB CREATION IN OUR COMMUNITY, BUT SECONDLY, IT EQUATES TO WHICH TYPE OF ENTITY IS GOING TO PICK UP THE LION'S SHARE OF THE TAXES IN YOUR COMMUNITY.

WHEN WE LOOK IN TAX YEAR 2021, RESIDENTIAL VALUE WAS 57.53% OF OUR ROLE AND COMMERCIAL WAS 9.2.

IN 2025 TAX YEAR, THE NUMBERS HAD CHANGED QUITE A BIT.

RESIDENTIAL WENT UP TO 60.74% AND COMMERCIAL DOWN TO 7.67.

THIS AGAIN, SHOWS A TREND, AND I THINK FARTHER SUPPORT WHY THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT SHOULD REVALUE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.

OVERALL, IN TERMS OF FISCAL IMPACT FOR THE CITY OF BURLESON, POTENTIAL ANNUAL LOSS IS UP OR EXCEEDS $1.9 MILLION, AND WHAT DOES THAT AFFECT? AFFECT THE SERVICE DELIVERY IN AREAS OF POLICE, FIRE, PUBLIC WORKS, AND STREETS, AS WELL AS CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS, AND LONG TERM FINANCIAL STABILITY.

I'D BE HAPPY TO RESPOND TO ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

>> I THINK THIS IS AN EXCELLENT REPORT, AND IT SHOWS EXACTLY WHAT YOU INTENDED IT TO SHOW; THAT THEY NEED TO DO MORE FREQUENT APPRAISALS.

>> THANK YOU.

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>> THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT IN OUR MEETING WHEN WE MET WITH THE CAD BOARD, THAT THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES NEED TO BE ADJUSTED. [OVERLAPPING]

>> THEY'RE UNDERVALUED. I THINK WHAT'S IRONIC IS THAT OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, WE'VE LISTENED ABOUT THE SUGGESTIONS ON WHO WAS RUNNING AND WHO WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE BUT A TALKING POINT HAS ALWAYS BEEN TO RELIEF FOR THE HOMEOWNER.

HERE, EVIDENCE SHOWS THE BRUNT OF EVERYTHING HAS BEEN ON THE BACKS OF THE HOMEOWNERS.

THEY'RE VALUED HIGH, AND THAT'S A COMPLAINT WE HEAR A LOT OF, AND YOU LOOK AT THE COMMERCIAL SIDE AND THEY ARE SIGNIFICANTLY OFF AND UNDERVALUED.

I THINK IN OUR EFFORTS AS LEADERSHIP IN THIS CITY, WE'VE TRIED TO UP THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION AND TRY AND GIVE HOMEOWNERS RELIEF.

IT REALLY NEEDS TO BE EVALUATED, PARTICULARLY IN AN EQUAL MANNER.

>> I AGREE THE COUNCIL DOES A GREAT JOB RECRUITING BUSINESSES FOR THE REASONS I MENTIONED, AND THIS IS AN AREA THAT CAN POTENTIALLY UNDERMINE ALL THAT GREAT WORK.

>> CARLY, I THINK YOU DID AN AWESOME JOB AT THIS AND BREAKING IT DOWN.

I THINK WE KNOW WHAT WE NEED TO BE DOING ON HERE.

HOPEFULLY THE CAD BOARD WILL BE LISTENING TO US.

>> THAT BRINGS UP A LEAD IN FOR ME.

WHAT TEETH DO WE HAVE IN THIS? THIS IS JUST A PRESENTATION TO THE CAD BOARD.

THEY DO WHAT THEY WANT TO.

>> YES, THEY CAN DO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO WITH IT.

IT DOES FOLLOW UP WITH COUNCIL MEMBER RUSSELL'S COMMENT THAT THE SUBCOMMITTEE YOU HAD APPOINTED DID MEET WITH A SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE CAD BOARD, AND THEY EXPRESSED SHOCK THAT COMMERCIAL VALUE WAS SO LOW AS REPORTED BY THEIR STAFF, BUT NOTHING HAS HAPPENED SINCE THEN.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

>> I JUST REALLY UPS TO ANNIE TO CREATE A FORMAL REQUEST IF YOU APPROVE THE RESOLUTION TONIGHT.

>> I WOULD LIKE FOR THE OTHER TOWNS TO REALIZE THAT WE DID THIS, IF YOU WOULD.

>> YES, I WILL. WE'LL MAKE SURE WE CONTACT THE OTHER COMMUNITIES, BUT SPECIFICALLY ONES WE'VE SHOWN IN THE PRESENTATION, THEY HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH THEM.

>> I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS AS FAR AS THESE ITEMS LATER ON OUR AGENDA ABOUT THE NOMINEES FOR THE CAD BOARDS, BUT I REALLY THINK THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF THE IMPORTANCE OF HAVING THOSE INTERGOVERNMENTAL BODY MEETINGS WITH BURLESON ISD, JOSHUA ISD, SURROUNDING CITIES THAT WE SET UP AGAINST, BECAUSE WE ALL HAVE SIMILAR INTERESTS.

WE'RE ALL TRYING TO DO THE BEST WITH OUR COMMUNITIES WITH THE RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE AND WHEN THE CAD BOARDS ARE CUTTING AND SWEEPING UP FROM UNDERNEATH US AND WE DON'T HAVE AS MANY TOOLS IN OUR TOOLBOX TO BE ABLE TO RELIEVE CITIZENS APPROPRIATELY, AND SO I THINK THIS REALLY STRIKES THE IMPORTANCE OF BEING ABLE TO SIT AT THE TABLE WITH ALL THE PARTIES IN JOHNSON COUNTY AND HAVE THOSE MEETINGS AND DISCUSSIONS THAT WAY.

IT'S ALL OUT IN THE OPEN AND WE'RE NOT WONDERING WHAT THE OTHER BODIES ARE THINKING OR WHERE THEY LAND ON THINGS, BUT ALSO WE'RE NOT PUTTING ANYONE IN POSITION OF POTENTIAL DAISY CHAINS AND ALL THAT STUFF.

>> THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT TARRANT COUNTY IS DOING.

WE'RE NOT ASKING THEM TO DO ANYTHING WITH THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES AT ALL.

TARRANT COUNTY HAS A THREE-YEAR FREEZE, BUT THEY ALSO ALLOW A ONE-YEAR ON THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ASKING JOHNSON COUNTY, IS TO MIRROR TARRANT COUNTY'S.

>> THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.

>> BECAUSE HONESTLY, I SEE IT AS A MILLION NINE THAT WE'RE PUTTING ON THE HOMEOWNERS AND NOT PUTTING THAT [OVERLAPPING] BUCK ON COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES, BECAUSE THAT'S AT LEAST WHAT? THREE CENTS.

IS A MILLION NINE, PROBABLY.

I DIDN'T DO THE MATH, BUT IT'S ABOUT $0.3.

>> LITTLE BIT MORE.

>> IS THERE A MOTION ON THIS?

>> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AND MOVE FORWARD.

>> I HAVE A MOTION BY ALEXA AND A SECOND BY VICTORIA.

PLEASE VOTE. PASSES UNANIMOUS. THANKS, HARLAN.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

[Items 7.B. & 7.C.]

FOR THE NEXT TWO ITEMS, 7B AND 7C, THERE WILL BE ONE PRESENTATION, AND ALSO THAT COUNCIL KNOWS I DO HAVE SPEAKER CARDS FOR THESE ITEMS, SO 7B IS TO CONSIDER AND TAKE POSSIBLE ACTION ON A RESOLUTION, CASTING AN OFFICIAL BALLOT, AND ALLOCATING VOTES FROM MEMBERS OF THE TARRANT APPRAISAL DISTRICT BOARD OF DIRECTORS,

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AND 7C IS CONSIDER AND TAKE POSSIBLE ACTION ON A RESOLUTION, CASTING AN OFFICIAL BALLOT, AND ALLOCATING VOTES FROM MEMBERS OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR THE CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT OF JOHNSON COUNTY.

THE STAFF PRESENTER FOR BOTH ITEMS IS JANALEA HEMBREE, ASSISTANT TO THE CITY MANAGER.

>> THANK YOU, AMANDA. TODAY, I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT VOTES FOR BOTH JOHNSON COUNTY AND TARRANT COUNTY.

AS YOU GUYS ARE AWARE, THE BOARDS ARE MADE UP OF FIVE MEMBERS APPOINTED BY THE DISTRICTS WITHIN THIS JURISDICTION.

THREE MEMBERS ARE ELECTED BY MAJORITY VOTE IN THE NOVEMBER ELECTION, THERE'S ONE TAX COLLECTOR, AND THEN THESE NEW TERMS WILL START JANUARY 1 OF 2026.

ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE BOARD IS HIRE THE CHIEF APPRAISER, THEY GOVERN THE DISTRICT, THEY ADOPT THE ANNUAL BUDGET, BUT THEY DO NOT APPRAISE PROPERTIES.

FOR THE DISTRICT VOTES, EACH TAXING AUTHORITY HAS ALLOCATED VOTES BASED ON THEIR SHARE OF THE TAX LEVY.

VOTES MAY BE APPOINTED IN ANY WAY.

THEY CAN BE SPLIT UP AMONGST MEMBERS OR GIVEN ALL TO ONE.

BALLOTS ARE DUE BEFORE DECEMBER 15TH.

STARTING WITH JOHNSON COUNTY, BURLESON WAS ENTITLED TO 164 VOTES.

THERE'S 2,000 VOTES IN TOTAL.

THE DISTRICT VOTED MEMBERS, WHICH THERE ARE TWO VACANCIES, WILL SERVE FOR THE CALENDAR YEARS OF 2026-2029.

THE CANDIDATES ARE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE SCREEN.

THE TWO CANDIDATES WITH THE ASTERISKS WERE NOMINATED BY YOU IN NOVEMBER, AND THE CANDIDATE THAT IS UNDERLINED IS CURRENTLY ON THE BOARD.

I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THE VOTE ALLOCATION THAT WAS SENT TO US BY JOHNSON COUNTY.

I WENT AND REVIEWED THIS INFORMATION.

YOU HAVE THE CITIES ON THE LEFT, IN THE CENTER, YOU HAVE THE ISDS, AND THEN OTHER ONTO THE RIGHT.

WHEN I CALCULATED THESE VOTES, THEY DID COME TO A TOTAL OF 2,004.

HOWEVER, ONLY 2,000 VOTES CAN BE ALLOCATED.

I DID CONTACT JOHNSON COUNTY AND BROUGHT THIS TO THEIR ATTENTION.

THEY DID NOT GET BACK TO ME.

I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT, AND THEN WE'LL TALK ABOUT THOSE VOTES LATER.

FOR TARRANT COUNTY, BURLESON WAS ENTITLED TO THREE VOTES.

AGAIN, 2,000 VOTES IN TOTAL.

DISTRICT VOTED MEMBERS TOO AS WELL.

WILL SERVE FOR A CALENDAR YEAR OF 2026-2029.

CANDIDATES ARE TO YOUR RIGHT.

THE ONE CANDIDATE YOU NOMINATED IN NOVEMBER IS WITH AN ASTERISK AND THE TWO THAT ARE CURRENTLY ON THE BOARD ARE UNDERLINED AS WELL.

A TARRANT COUNTY VOTE ALLOCATION.

THERE WAS ALSO A LITTLE BIT OF DISCREPANCY.

YOU'LL SEE THE CITIES ON THE LEFT TWO COLUMNS, THE PAPERWORK THAT THEY SENT US SHOWED THAT THOSE SUBTOTALS OF THOSE CITIES EQUALED 577.

WHEN I ADDED THEM INDIVIDUALLY, THEY EQUALED 578.

THE ISDS, THEY SHOWED THAT THEY TOTALED 1,082, BUT WHEN I CALCULATED THEM, THEY ONLY SHOWED 1,081.

THEY WERE MISCALCULATED BY ONE VOTE ON EACH SIDE.

HOWEVER, ALL TOGETHER, THEY DID TOTAL 2,000.

I REACHED OUT TO TARRANT COUNTY.

THEY DID GET BACK TO ME.

THEY REVIEWED THE ALLOCATION OF THE VOTES.

THE INDIVIDUAL VOTES ARE CORRECT BECAUSE THE INDIVIDUAL VOTES IN THE ROUNDING, THE SUBTOTALS AT THE BOTTOM ROUNDED.

BECAUSE IT WAS 0.52, IT ROUNDED UP, AND ONE OF THEM WAS 0.4 ROUNDED DOWN, THEY DID MAKE A COMMENT THAT THEY WILL PROBABLY LIKELY IN THE FUTURE REMOVE THOSE SUBTITLES, SO THAT WAY THERE'S NOT A ROUNDING ERROR, BUT THE INDIVIDUAL VOTES FOR TARRANT COUNTY ARE CORRECT.

WITH THAT, STARTING WITH JOHNSON COUNTY, TODAY, YOU CAN CAST AN OFFICIAL VOTE, ALLOCATING THE 164 VOTES.

STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, IF YOU GUYS CHOOSE TO ALLOCATE ALL THE VOTES TO ONE PERSON, MAKING THE ACTION THAT YOU JUST WANT TO ALLOCATE ALL OF THE VOTES THAT YOU HAVE TO ONE PERSON, IF YOU GUYS CHOOSE TO DIVVY THEM UP, IF YOU CAN CHOOSE AN EXACT NUMBER FOR YOUR FIRST ONE OR TWO CANDIDATES, AND THEN YOUR REMAINING CANDIDATE JUST MAKE THE MOTION THAT YOU WANT TO ANNOUNCE OR GIVE THE LAST FINAL VOTES TO THAT PERSON BECAUSE THERE IS A CHANCE THAT OUR VOTES CHANGE BECAUSE THAT 2,004 IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE FIXED.

IF YOU GUYS DO EXACT NUMBER OF VOTES TO EVERY SINGLE PERSON AND THEY DO TAKE A VOTE AWAY FROM US, I WILL HAVE TO COME BACK FOR YOU GUYS TO REALLOCATE THAT VOTE.

THAT WHY STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND YOU JUST SAYING THE FINAL NUMBER OF VOTES TO ONE PERSON.

>> GENERALLY, THAT WOULD REQUIRE A SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING?

>> YES. BECAUSE THE BALLOT IS DUE DECEMBER 15TH, YOUR GUYS' NEXT COUNCIL MEETING IS NOT UNTIL DECEMBER 15TH, AND WHEN I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO SUBMIT IT BEFORE 5 O'CLOCK.

>> MAYOR AND COUNCIL, WOULD YOU LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE SPEAKERS PRIOR TO CASTING [OVERLAPPING]

>> JUST A SECOND, AMANDA. HOW MANY VOTES DOES SOMEBODY NEED TO GET ON THE BOARD, TOTAL?

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>> I DIDN'T CALCULATE IT OUT BECAUSE I DIDN'T GET THE BALLOT UNTIL FRIDAY.

BUT IT'S WHOEVER THE TOP 2 NOMINATIONS ARE THAT GET THE MOST.

>> THEN DO WE KNOW OF ANYBODY ELSE THAT HAS ALLOCATED THEIR VOTES TO ANY OF THE CANDIDATES?

>> JOHNSON COUNTY DOES NOT POST THEIR VOTES AS THEY'RE BEING AWARDED, ONLY TARRANT COUNTY DOES.

WHEN I LOOKED TODAY THIS AFTERNOON, NOBODY HAD MET YET.

WE ARE THE FIRST MEETING, BECAUSE THE BALLOTS JUST CAME OUT ON FRIDAY.

>> THANK YOU.

>> BEFORE WE GO ANY FURTHER, I'D LIKE TO MENTION SOMETHING TO THE COUNCIL TO THINK ABOUT.

THE STATE OF TEXAS HAS GIVEN THE CITIZENS OF THE COUNTY AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE SOME CONTROL OVER THEIR CAD THROUGH THE TEXAS TAX CODE 6.033, AND IT'S A RECALL CODE.

IT GIVES THE CITIZENS AN OPPORTUNITY THAT IF YOU HAVE A CAD BOARD DIRECTOR THAT MAY NOT BE ACTING IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITIZENS OR MAY NOT BE WITHIN THE GUIDELINES OF THEIR ELECTED POSITION TO RECALL.

IT'S RECALL BASED BY THE TAXING ENTITIES AND EACH ENTITY THAT VOTES FOR THAT INDIVIDUAL GETS THAT MANY VOTES IN THE RECALL.

IF YOU JUST PUT ONE VOTE TOWARDS THAT CAD BOARD MEMBER, AND I WOULD SUGGEST A VOTE FOR EACH ONE OF THEM, AT LEAST ONE, THAT WOULD GIVE THE CITIZENS THAT YOU REPRESENT AN OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE AN ORDINANCE TO START A RECALL.

MAYBE NOT ENOUGH TO COMPLETE THE RECALL, BUT AT LEAST THE CITIZENS WOULD HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO START A RECALL.

I BELIEVE THAT'S THE REASON THIS LAW WAS PUT IN THE TAX CODE.

I'M SURPRISED THAT ALL TAXING ENTITIES AREN'T ALREADY DOING THIS, AND I HAVE A FEELING THEY WILL BEFORE LONG.

BUT WHEN WE GO TO VOTE, I KNOW WE ONLY HAVE THREE VOTES FOR TARRANT COUNTY, AND THERE'S FOUR CANDIDATES, SO WE HAVE TO BE SELECTIVE THERE.

BUT IN JOHNSON COUNTY, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE UTILIZE THIS OPPORTUNITY AND PUT AT LEAST ONE VOTE FOR EVERY CANDIDATE FROM NOW ON.

THAT'S JUST A SUGGESTION THAT I HAVE TO PROTECT THE CITIZENS AGAINST A CAD BOARD DIRECTOR THAT MAY NEED TO BE RECALLED FOR WHATEVER REASON.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?

>> IT DOES.

>> I AGREE WITH THAT, LARRY.

WITH REGARDS TO JOHNSON COUNTY, DEPENDING ON HOW THE VOTE GOES, WE'LL FIGURE THAT OUT WHERE WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING.

WE NEED TO ALLOCATE MORE THAN ONE JUST TO MAKE SURE WE GET THERE.

>> WE NOMINATED IGNACIO, DIDN'T WE?

>> YES, YOU NOMINATED BOTH HIM AND JASON.

>> WE WANT TO GIVE PETER ONE VOTE AND THE OTHER TWO.

>> LET'S HEAR THE SPEAKER CARDS FIRST.

>> I'M SORRY, LET'S DO THAT.

>> THE FIRST SPEAKER CARD I HAVE IS DANIEL BENNETT.

>> HELLO, MAYOR COUNSEL. IF YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE THEM INDIVIDUALLY, I CAN SPEAK TO TAD DIRECTLY, OR YOU GUYS DO YOUR JOHNSON COUNTY.

MY NAME IS DANIEL BENNETT.

THIS IS MY EIGHTH YEAR DOWN HERE.

I HOPE YOU'RE NOT TIRED OF SEEING ME.

BUT TO YOUR POINT, MR. SCOTT, WE'VE HAD ISSUES IN TARRANT COUNTY, AND I WISH THERE WERE TIMES WE COULD RECALL, AND WE HAD TO DO A FORCED RECALL.

THROUGH JUDGE O'HARA IN CITY OF KELLER.

I WANT TO SPEAK WITH YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED TO TAD TODAY, AND THEN I WANT TO SPEAK TO THE CANDIDATE THAT I'M SUPPORTING WHO IS HERE.

I HOPE THAT YOU WILL TAKE TIME TO ANSWER AND ASK QUESTIONS.

THEY STAND HERE. I HOPE EACH ONE OF YOU PEPPER THEM, AT LEAST ONE QUESTION.

MR. MCCLEA, THANK YOU FOR NOMINATING GARY LASADA.

I KNOW HE RESCINDED.

HE'S EXCELLENT. HE'S SEASONED.

HE HAS INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE.

I HAVE A CANDIDATE HERE TONIGHT WITH SIMILAR SKILL SET, SAIDA SAYED, WHOM YOU'VE NOMINATED.

WITH THE VOTE OVER TO THE COLLEGE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU READ IT IN STAR TELEGRAM.

THEY GOT 200 MORE VOTES THAN THEY SHOULD HAVE.

WHAT IT DID, IT TOOK VOTES AWAY FROM THIS BODY.

YOU HAD LESS VOTES BECAUSE OF TAD'S ERROR.

THIS ISN'T THE FIRST ERROR TAD'S EVER MADE WHEN IT CAME TO THIS ELECTION.

I COULD POINT OUT SIX MORE.

I'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET PROTOCOLS, POLICY AND PROCEDURES IN PLACE, BUT WE HAVE A CANDIDATE WHO'S SAIDA SAYED THAT WILL DO THAT.

JOE DON, THE CHIEF PRESIDENT TARRANT COUNTY, CAME IN AND INHERITED A MESS.

HE'S BEEN PUTTING OUT FIRES.

I EXPECTED A CITY BOARD MEMBER FRED CAMPOS TO TAKE CARE OF IT.

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HE HASN'T. HE'S A TRUSTEE AT HVRSD.

HE HAS ZERO THOUGHTS ABOUT THE BOARD, BUT NOW WE HAVE AN ELECTION THAT'S BEEN CORRUPTED UNDER HIS WATCH, AND HE ASSURED ME THAT THAT WASN'T GOING TO HAPPEN.

HE WOULD PUT POLICIES AND PROCEDURES IN THE PLACE TO FIX IT.

IT'S TIME WE TAKE AND REIN IN OUR APPRAISAL DISTRICT IN TARRANT COUNTY AND PUT THOUGHTFUL PEOPLE WITH INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE THAT KNOWS THE PROPERTY TAX CODE.

ONE OTHER POINT, A SITTING BOARD MEMBER NAMED WENDY BURGESS IS ON OUR TAD BOARD.

WHEN IT CAME TO DO THE TWO-YEAR REAPPRAISAL PLAN, SHE DID NOT STAY FOR THAT VOTE.

SHE TOOK OFF. TAX ASSESSOR COLLECTOR DUTY, OFF SHE WENT.

NOW, SHE NEVER ONCE SAID THAT HER FATHER'S THREE-YEAR REAPPRAISAL PLAN IN JOHNSON COUNTY WAS NEVER AN ISSUE.

SHE NEVER ACTUALLY IS ON RECORD FOR THE TWO YEAR.

BUT YET SHE'LL SIT THERE AND SAY, I'M GOING TO FIGHT FOR ONE YEAR.

WELL, I CAN TELL YOU, FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS, SAIDA SAYED HAS BEEN EVEN DURING THE AT LARGE ELECTION, JANUARY 1 COMES EVERY YEAR.

EVERYBODY ELSE WAS MALIGNING HER BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T KNOW THE PROPERTY TAX CODE.

IT TOOK AUSTIN TO REIN IN THE TAD BOARD.

I HOPE YOU WILL GIVE ALL OF YOUR VOTES TO MISS SAYED, AND I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

>> PERFECT TIMING.

>> THE NEXT SPEAKER CARD I HAVE IS SAIDA SAYED.

>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNSEL.

I'M SAIDA SAYED, AND MY ADDRESS IS 6705 SAPPHIRE CIRCLE, NORTH COLLEYVILLE, TEXAS 76034.

LAST MONTH, I WAS HERE AND YOU GUYS NOMINATED ME AND THIS TIME I'M HERE TO GET ALL THREE VOTES.

I CAN TELL YOU WHY BECAUSE WHEN I WAS THERE, I SAID ABOUT IT'S A TIME.

THAT'S WHY, 89TH, I WILL UPDATE ALL THE CHANGES APPROVED BY 89TH LEGISLATIVE SESSION.

WHEN I SAID THAT UNDER THE PROPERTY TAX CODE, IT DIRECTS ALL APPRAISAL DISTRICT THE BILL SB973, THAT'S RELATING TO PERIODIC REAPPRAISAL OF THE PROPERTIES.

THAT SUPPORTED AND BACK ALL APPRAISAL DISTRICT TO FOLLOW 23.01 OF THE PROPERTY TAX CODE THAT SAYS ALL TAXABLE PROPERTY IS APPRAISED AT ITS MARKET VALUE AS OF JANUARY 1.

AGAIN, MR. BENNETT SAID, IT'S MY VERY STRONG BELIEF THAT JANUARY 1 COMES EVERY YEAR, BECAUSE SOME OF THE ELECTED OFFICIALS HERE IN TARRANT COUNTY SAID, IT DOES NOT SAY JANUARY 1 OF THIS YEAR OR PREVIOUS YEAR OR TWO YEARS AGO, BUT YOU CELEBRATE CHRISTMAS EVERY YEAR, THEN YOU CELEBRATE NEW YEAR EVERY YEAR.

YOU HAVE TO PAY TAXES EVERY YEAR.

SIMPLE, EASY.

WHAT HAPPENED IN LAST YEAR'S ELECTION, THERE WAS A CALCULATION ERROR, INSTEAD OF DOING $323 MILLION TAX LEVY FOR TARRANT COUNTY COLLEGE, APPRAISAL DISTRICT CONSIDERED $559 MILLION FOR TARRANT COUNTY COLLEGE.

TARRANT COUNTY COLLEGE CONTACTED APPRAISAL DISTRICT SEVERAL TIMES THAT WE NEVER HAD THAT KIND OF REVENUE.

BUT SOMEONE FROM THE JUNIOR STAFF AT APPRAISAL DISTRICT, THEY TOLD THEM, "HEY, OUR NUMBERS ARE SPOT ON. GO CHECK YOURS." I BELIEVE DR. ENGLAND AT TARRANT COUNTY COLLEGE, SHE KNOWS HER NUMBER BETTER THAN HER APPRAISAL DISTRICT.

BACK AND FORTH GOING ONWARD.

ALL OF A SUDDEN, TARRANT COUNTY HAS 200 MORE VOTES.

THEY VOTED FOR THE CANDIDATES.

LONG STORY SHORT, I FIGURED IT OUT IN OCTOBER, THAT THAT'S A MISTAKE.

VERY NEXT DAY, AFTER CONFIRMING FROM JO DON BOBBETT, OUR CHIEF APPRAISER, I TALKED AT TARRANT COUNTY COLLEGE.

MR. BENNETT AND ME TOGETHER BECAUSE THEY ARE VERY ACCURATE ABOUT THEIR CLOCK, REGARDLESS OF THE PROBLEM, THEY SHUT IT DOWN AT THREE MINUTES.

THEN THE SAME NIGHT, I TALKED THAT ISSUE AT ARLINGTON ISD AS WELL, BECAUSE THEY GAVE 200 EXTRA VOTES.

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ROUNDING VALUES, FOUR VOTES.

THERE IS 200 VOTES.

BECAUSE OF THAT 200 EXTRA VOTES, ALL THOSE SCHOOL DISTRICT HERE IN TARRANT COUNTY LOST 118 VOTES COMBINED.

COMMISSIONER SCOTT LOST 22 VOTES.

>> I'M SORRY. YOUR TIME'S UP.

>> NEXT SPEAKER IS ERIC KRILE.

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>> ERIC KRILE. MAYOR, COUNCIL, GOOD EVENING.

FIRST TIME SPEAKING HERE.

SECOND TIME ATTENDING YOUR MEETING.

I WAS HERE AT THE OCTOBER 8 MEETING WHEN YOU GUYS RESCINDED GARY LASADA'S NOMINATION.

I DIDN'T SPEAK AT THAT TIME BECAUSE I HAD ALREADY BEEN NOMINATED.

BEFORE I TALK ABOUT MYSELF, I WANT TO MAKE A LITTLE COMMENT ON THE JOHNSON AND THE RECALL.

IF YOU CAST ONE VOTE FOR EVERY MEMBER, YOU CAN RECALL, BUT IT'S A TAX ENTITY INITIATED RECALL.

IT'S NOT DONE BY THE CITIZENS, JUST TO CLARIFY THAT.

A LITTLE BIT ABOUT ME.

MARRIED, STEPFATHER TO A 15-YEAR-OLD, JUST GOT HER PERMIT.

IT'S GOING TO BE AN EXCITING TIME.

STEPDAUGHTER, AND I HAVE AN 18-MONTH-OLD SON WHO REMINDS ME EVERY DAY THAT I'M 47 YEARS OLD WHEN I'M CHASING HIM AROUND THE HOUSE.

I LIVE IN NORTH FORT WORTH, THE HAZLET AREA.

I MOVED TO TEXAS IN 2007.

I'VE LIVED ALMOST EXCLUSIVELY IN TARRANT COUNTY WITH THE EXCEPTION OF SIX MONTHS BACK IN 2018, WHEN I WAS HAVING MY HOUSE BUILT.

FOR MY CAREER, I'M A FIREFIGHTER.

I WORK IN DALLAS COUNTY.

I'VE BEEN DOING THAT FOR 18 YEARS.

LET ME TELL YOU WHAT I BELIEVE, WHAT I KNOW.

I BELIEVE THE LEGISLATURE'S INTENTS FOR YEARLY APPRAISALS.

AFTER WATCHING MANY HEARINGS DURING THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION ON PROPERTY TAXES AND APPRAISALS, MANY OF THE COMMENTS BY THE LEGISLATURE WERE DIRECTED TOWARDS THIS INTERPRETATION.

I BELIEVE IN LOCAL CONTROL, AND WE SHOULD ALWAYS AIM TO SOLVE OUR PROBLEMS LOCALLY WHEN POSSIBLE.

IT'S BEST TO AVOID AUSTIN'S ONE SIZE FITS ALL APPROACH TO PROBLEM SOLVING.

WHAT DO I KNOW? I KNOW THE REAPPRAISAL PLAN IS IMPLEMENTED, CAN IMPACT BOND CAPACITY, ESPECIALLY ON THE SCHOOL DISTRICT SIDES, AND THE ABILITY TO REFINANCE THOSE BONDS TO A LOWER RATE, THEREBY COSTING TAXPAYERS MORE MONEY AND INTEREST.

I KNOW THIS IS A POLITICAL APPOINTMENT, AND POLITICAL APPOINTMENTS ARE BASED ON RELATIONSHIPS WITH CANDIDATES.

WITH YOU GUYS, I'VE FAILED, I SHOULD HAVE BEEN DOWN HERE MORE.

I HAVE THESE TWO CALENDARS, ALL THE CITIES, ALL THE SCHOOLS, AND I TRY TO GET AROUND AS MANY AS I CAN.

BUT IF I'M BEING HONEST, HAZLET AND BURLESON ARE FAR APART.

I KNOW I HAVE THE DESIRE TO DO THIS JOB AND THE PASSION TO DO IT WELL, SO MUCH SO THAT I WENT TO AUSTIN THIS YEAR TO TESTIFY ON ONE OF THE BILLS REGARDING PROPERTY APPRAISALS.

WHAT HAVE I DONE? I SPENT THE LAST YEAR ATTENDING SCHOOLS AND COUNCIL MEETINGS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY TO UNDERSTAND THE CHALLENGES THE TARRANT COUNTY REAPPRAISAL PLAN HAS PLACED ON YOU GUYS.

I'VE WORKED TO BUILD RELATIONSHIPS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY WITH VARIOUS CFOS, SUPERINTENDENTS, BOARDS, AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

FINALLY, I TOOK IT UPON MYSELF TO GET THE CONSERVATION DISTRICTS IN TARRANT COUNTY. THEY NEVER VOTED.

I STARTED SPEAKING TO THEM IN FEBRUARY, AND THIS YEAR, FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER, THEY'RE GOING TO VOTE IN THE APPOINTMENT PROCESS.

THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

>> THANK YOU.

>> NEXT SPEAKER IS BILL JANISH.

>> BILL JANISH 117 NORTHEAST CLINTON.

I'M GOING TO DATE MYSELF REAL QUICK WITH A COUPLE OF REFERENCES.

IF THE JOHNSON COUNTY CAD WAS A BASEBALL MOVIE, IT'D BE BAD NEWS PAIRS, IF IT WAS HOCKEY, IT'D BE SLAP SHOT.

IF IT'S A RECREATIONAL EVENT, IT'D BE ANIMAL HOUSE.

THIS WEEKEND, A VIDEO CAME OUT BY A MAN NAMED CHANDLER CROUCH, WELL KNOWN BROKER IN THE AREA.

HE HELPS 40, 50,000 PEOPLE EVERY YEAR WITH THEIR TAXES.

I'LL GET TO THAT IN A MINUTE. YOU GUYS HAVE HEARD ME TALK A LOT ABOUT ME BEING A GENERAL CONTRACTOR, BUT I COULD LIE TO YOU GUYS AND SAY, I'M A BROKER.

YOU KNOW I'M IN TARRANT COUNTY.

I COULD LIE AND SAY I LIVED IN JOHNSON COUNTY.

I'VE HELPED BABIES IN MY LIFE, BUT I COULD SAY I'M A NICU NURSE.

I COULD SAY AS A POLICE COMMISSIONER, YOU KNOW THAT'S NOT TRUE.

BUT I GOT ONE PERSON ON THE JOHNSON COUNTY CAD BOARD.

A PERSON THAT COMMITTED CRIMES AGAINST THEIR OWN CHILD, CHILD AND BY PROXY.

THERE'S A BOOK ABOUT IT. THE THIRD BOOK IS ABOUT HER.

HOW DO THESE THINGS HAPPEN? HOW THESE PEOPLE GET ELECTED? BY VOTING BODIES, NOT DOING HOMEWORK, NOT LOOKING AT THESE PEOPLE, NOT PAYING ATTENTION.

LIKE I SAID, CHANDLER CROUCH DID A VIDEO THIS WEEKEND WHERE HE TALKED ABOUT WENDY BURGESS AND HER FATHER AT SOUTH JOHNSON COUNTY CAD BOARD.

THERE'S A BIG LAWSUIT BACK IN THE PAST.

MONEY WAS FUNDLE AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

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THESE TYPE OF THINGS HAPPEN, YOU CAN USE WORD CORRUPTION OR WHATEVER.

FRIENDS TAKING CARE OF FRIENDS, FRIENDS TAKING CARE OF FAMILY.

WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT NOMINATING PEOPLE, I LIKE THE ONE VOTE TYPE THING OPTION FOR A RECALL.

YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN A MAN SHOW UP HERE NOT TOO LONG AGO WHERE FIRST CAD BOARD MEETING I WENT TO.

HE POUND HIS FIST ON THE TABLE.

HE ALSO, I DON'T WANT TO USE WORD MANHANDLE, BUT HE AGGRESSIVELY GRABBED A WOMAN AT A GODLY ISD MEETING.

HE FOLLOWED A COUPLE OF OTHER WOMEN OUT IN THE PARK A LOT.

THAT TYPE OF CONDUCT, THAT HAS NO PART IN ANYTHING.

THOSE TYPE OF PEOPLE, I UNDERSTAND, SHOULDN'T GET ANY VOTES, BUT IF YOU GOT TO DO ONE VOTE TO RECALL, THAT MIGHT BE THE WAY TO GO.

CAN IT GET WORSE? OH, YEAH, IT CAN GO IN THE TOILET.

I THINK IT'S PRETTY MUCH HERE.

LIKE THEY HAD MENTIONED SOME OF THE INCONSISTENCIES AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

THERE'S COVER UP GOING ON IN TARRANT COUNTY.

I THINK JOHNSON COUNTY, LIKE I SPOKE OUT LAST MEETING.

I THINK THEIR PROBLEMS ARE COMING.

GREED. I THINK THIS IS A PART OF IT, TAKING CARE OF FRIENDS.

THE MONEY THING AS FAR AS NOT IDENTIFYING PROPERTIES THAT SHOULD BE REALLY WHAT THEY ARE.

HARLAN, I REALLY THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THOSE NUMBERS BEFORE COUNCIL AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE THAT REACHED OUT TO HARLAN, BUT I WAS UPSET ABOUT.

I KNEW THAT SHORT BORROWED SOME MONEY AND IT COULD EVEN BE HIGHER THAN WHAT YOU QUOTED, BUT, THAT'S JUST RIDICULOUS.

HAVING THAT TAKES MONEY, THE TAX RATE OR SOMETHING IF THEY'D BEEN ONTO IT.

>> THANK YOU, BILL.

>> IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ITEM 7B OR 7C? I HAVE NO OTHER SPEAKER.

>> WE'RE GOOD.

>> THE FIRST ITEM OF B IS FOR TARRANT COUNTY.

>> TARRANT COUNTY PLEASE?

>> FOR TARRANT COUNTY, WE DO HAVE THREE VOTES TO ALLOCATE.

I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THIS WILL CHANGE AS THEY DID EQUAL 2000 VOTES IN TOTAL AND YOUR FOUR CANDIDATES ARE TO YOUR RIGHT.

>> HOW DO YOU WANT TO WRITE IT UP, LARRY?

>> I'D LIKE TO MAKE A SUGGESTION THAT WE PUT ONE VOTE TO WENDY BURGESS.

ONE TO SAYED, AND ONE TO MICHAEL LAWFORD.

>> I WANTED TO GET ONE TO ERIC.

TWO TO SAYED.

>> I LIKE THAT.

>> I WAS ONE TO WENDY, ONE TO ERIC AND ONE TO SAYED.

>> MY ONLY CONCERN WITH ERIC IS WHEN HE STOOD UP THERE AND CORRECTED ME, HE SAID THAT IT'S NOT THE CITIZENS THAT ARE IN CONTROL, IT'S THE ENTITIES.

IS THAT CORRECT, WHAT YOU SAID? I BELIEVE IT IS THE CITIZENS.

>> THAT'S CORRECT.

>> IT'D BE INITIATED BY THE ENTITY BASED ON THE OPINION OF THE CITIZENS.

THE ENTITY IS VOICE OF THE CITIZENS? [BACKGROUND]

>> I MISUNDERSTOOD YOU. THANK YOU.

>> I AGREE WITH ADAM. I WOULD SUGGEST ONE FOR WENDY, ONE FOR ERIC AND ONE FOR MISS SAY.

>> I AGREE WITH THAT, ALSO NOW.

>> SOMEONE MAKE A MOTION THEN. A MOTION.

>> I MOVE TO DIBB TERRANT COUNTY OR WONDERFUL, THREE ALLOTTED VOTES.

ON TO WENDY BURGES, ONE TO ERIC CROW, AND ONE TO SAY.

>> I HAVE A MOTION BY ADAM AND A SECOND BY ALEXA.

PLEASE VOTE. PASS IS UNANIMOUS.

>> THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM 7C, THE JOHNSON COUNTY APPRAISAL DISTRICT.

>> NOW, WITH THIS ONE, IF WE'RE WORRIED THAT THE VOTE TOTALS MAY CHANGE, THEN I DON'T KNOW WHAT EVERYBODY WANTS TO DO, BUT I WOULD SAY A MINIMUM OF AT LEAST FIVE TO ONE PERSON, MAYBE.

FOUR OR FIVE, MAYBE FIVE, THAT WOULD GET YOU THE ONE.

>> WELL, BUT IF YOU SAY A SPECIFIC NUMBER, AND VOTES GET IF YOU WANT TO NOMINATE TWO CANDIDATES AND YOU SAY A SPECIFIC NUMBER FOR BOTH OF THOSE,

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AND OUR VOTES CHANGE TO 163, I HAVE TO COME BACK AND ASK YOU.

THAT'S WHY STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE IF YOU WANTED TO 160 VOTES TO ONE PERSON AND THE REMAINING VOTES TO ANOTHER PERSON.

THAT WAY, REMAINING CAN FLUCTUATE.

>> WHAT I WAS THINKING IS, IF WE LEFT OURSELVES A CUSHION, THEN YOU COULD SPLIT BETWEEN TWO AND GIVE THE REST TO ANOTHER, AND THEN YOU'D HAVE ENOUGH TO WHERE IT SHOULDN'T MESS IT UP.

THAT'S WHERE I WAS GOING. BUT I DON'T HAVE AN OPINION OF THEM BECAUSE NONE OF ONLY ONE CAME.

I DON'T KNOW, THE OTHER TWO WE NOMINATED, BUT THEY DIDN'T SHOW UP.

>> I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF HE'S AWARE.

I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF PETER.

>> I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF PUTTING ANYTHING ON PETER'S.

>> BUT I THINK WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER SCOTT WAS SAYING, IF YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO RECALL AS LONG AS YOU CAST AT LEAST ONE VOTE.

IN THE RECALL, YOU CAN ONLY CAST ONE VOTE, BUT YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO INITIATE IT, AND YOU CAN GET OTHER TAXING ENTITIES TO COME AND ACTUALLY HAVE SOMEBODY REMOVED.

BASICALLY, RESERVING OUR POWER TO RECALL IS THE ONLY REASON WHY WE WOULD ALLOCATE A VOTE.

>> I WOULD SAY LET'S PUT ONE ON PETER.

I DO KNOW JASON MORPETH.

>> FULL DISCLOSURE THERE.

I WOULD SAY PUT 100 ON JASON'S AND PUT 60 [OVERLAPPING].

>> SAY THE REST.

>> ALL REMAINING.

>> IS THERE A MOTION ON THAT?

>> CAN YOU TAKE A REMAINING OR DO YOU NEED A DEFINITE NUMBER?

>> NO. STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION WOULD SAY THE REMAINING THAT WAY IN CASE THE VOTES CHANGE.

I DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK.

>> I'M IN AGREEANCE, TAL.

>> IS THERE A MOTION?

>> YES. COULD YOU STATE THE MOTION, PLEASE?

>> I'M MAKING THE MOTION FOR 100 TO JASON MORPETH ONE TO PETERS FENSTON, AND THE REMAINING TO IGNACIO.

>> YOU HAVE A MOTION BY ALEXA.

A SECOND BY LARRY, PLEASE VOTE. PASS IS UNANIMOUS.

>> THANK YOU GUYS.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM 7D. [OVERLAPPING]

>> SORRY, MAYOR. CAN WE HAVE A QUICK RECESS?

>> WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A RECESS ABOUT 5 MINUTES.

>> MAYOR, YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND YOU HAVE A QUORUM PRESENT TO START IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO.

>> WE'RE BACK IN SESSION.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. THAT BRINGS US TO 7D.

[7.D. Consider and take possible action on a resolution accepting the Quarterly Investment Report for September 30, 2025, as submitted in accordance with the Public Funds Investment Act (PFIA). (Staff Contact: Natalie Turner, Chief Accountant)]

CONSIDER AND TAKE POSSIBLE ACTION ON A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE QUARTERLY INVESTMENT REPORT FOR SEPTEMBER 30, 2025, AS SUBMITTED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PUBLIC FUNDS INVESTMENT ACT.

THE STAFF PRESENTED THIS EVENING IS NATALIE TURNER, CHIEF ACCOUNTANT. MISS TURNER.

>> THANK YOU, AMANDA. GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS NATALIE TURNER, AND I SERVE AS CHIEF ACCOUNTANT IN THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT.

TONIGHT, I'LL BE PRESENTING THE QUARTERLY INVESTMENT REPORT FOR THE PERIOD ENDING SEPTEMBER 30, 2025.

AS REQUIRED BY THE TEXAS PUBLIC FUNDS INVESTMENT ACT OR PFIA, THE CITY MUST PRESENT THE QUARTERLY INVESTMENT REPORT BEFORE THE GOVERNING BOARD EACH QUARTER FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL.

AS YOU ALL ARE FAMILIAR, THIS IS NORMALLY INCLUDED IN THE CONSENT AGENDA.

HOWEVER, AS A RESULT OF RECENT REDUCTIONS IN THE MACRO ECONOMIC INTEREST RATE, WE HAVE DECIDED TO PRESENT SEPTEMBER'S REPORT IN THE GENERAL SECTION OF THE AGENDA SO THAT WE COULD SHED LIGHT ON HOW WE AND THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT HAVE BEEN ACTIVELY MANAGING OUR INVESTMENT PORTFOLIO, AND WE'RE ABLE TO GET OUT AHEAD OF SOME OF THESE MACRO ECONOMIC INTEREST RATE CUTS AND INVEST STRATEGICALLY IN THE FOURTH QUARTER OF 2025.

I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO MENTION THAT WE DO HAVE ADAM RINGENBERG WITH VALUE CONSULTING HERE WITH US TONIGHT.

THANK YOU, ADAM, IN CASE ANY OF YOU HAVE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS RELATED TO THE PORTFOLIO.

THIS FIRST PAGE OF THE INVESTMENT REPORT PROVIDES AN ANNUAL COMPARISON, SO SEPTEMBER 30, 2024 TO SEPTEMBER 30, 2025.

AS YOU CAN SEE, AS OF 2024, BURLESON'S PORTFOLIO WAS ACHIEVING AN AVERAGE QUARTER IN YIELD OF 5.07%.

THIS WAS BELOW THAT OF THE BENCHMARK RATES, INCLUDING THE ROLLING THREE-MONTH AND SIX-MONTH UNITED STATES TREASURY RATES, AS WELL AS THE TEXT POLL RATE, WHICH WAS EARNING 5.29% AT THAT TIME.

FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE LESS FAMILIAR WITH TEXPOOL, THAT IS ONE OF THE MAIN TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT INVESTMENT POOLS WHICH ALLOWS MUNICIPALITIES LIKE BURLESON TO POOL FUNDS FOR SHORT-TERM INVESTMENT AND PROVIDE SAFETY, LIQUIDITY AND COMPETITIVE YIELDS.

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WE AND BURLESON INVEST IN TEXPOOL, AND WE ALSO USE TEXPOOL'S RATE AS A BENCHMARK TO COMPARE HOW OUR TOTAL PORTFOLIO IS PERFORMING RELATIVE TO TEXPOOL.

THIS IS COMPARED TO SEPTEMBER 2025.

YOU CAN SEE THAT BURLESON ACHIEVED A 4.46% AVERAGE QUARTER IN YIELD, AND THIS WAS ABOVE THAT OF THE ROLLING THREE AND SIX-MONTH TREASURY RATES, AS WELL AS TEXPOOL.

THE OVERALL TAKEAWAY HERE IS THAT WHILE THE AVERAGE YIELD DID DROP YEAR OVER YEAR, THIS IS IN LINE WITH EXPECTATIONS, FROM THE OVERALL ECONOMY, BUT THAT WE HAVE OUTPERFORMED THE BENCHMARK RATES IN 2025.

THIS NEXT PAGE PROVIDES A PICTURE OF THE PORTFOLIO'S PERFORMANCE, QUARTER OVER QUARTER.

THIS IS JUNE TO SEPTEMBER 2025, AND THIS PROVIDES MUCH OF WHAT YOU WOULD EXPECT.

IN THE LATTER HALF FOR BOTH QUARTERS, OF FISCAL YEAR 2025, THE PORTFOLIO ACHIEVED A COMPETITIVE AVERAGE YIELD.

THE OVERALL SIZE OF THE PORTFOLIO, THE CHANGE THAT YOU SEE THERE IS PRIMARILY ATTRIBUTABLE TO THE INFLOW OF OUR 2025 BOND PROCEEDS, WHICH WE WILL TOUCH ON FURTHER IN THE PRESENTATION REGARDING HOW WE IN THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT HAVE INVESTED THOSE FUNDS.

THIS PAGE IS INTENDED TO PROVIDE A HOLISTIC OVERVIEW OF THE ECONOMY IN WHICH THE CITY OF BURLESON PARTICIPATES.

AS I MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, THE FEDERAL OPEN MARKET COMMITTEE OR THE FOMC, SETS THE OVERALL FEDERAL FUNDS TARGET RATE RANGE, WHICH DRIVES THE U.S. TREASURY YIELD, AS WELL AS THE S&P 500 STOCK INDEX, AND THE INTEREST RATES THAT PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO ACHIEVE AND EARN IN THOSE TYPES OF INVESTMENTS.

BACK IN JULY, THE FOMC INDICATED AND FORECASTED THAT THEY EXPECTED A POTENTIAL 225 BASIS POINT CUTS TO THE OVERALL TARGET RANGE FOR THE REMAINING CALENDAR YEAR 2025.

WITH THAT KNOWLEDGE BACK IN JULY, WE IN FINANCE MADE DECISIONS AGAIN IN THE FOURTH QUARTER OF FISCAL YEAR 2025, TO GET AHEAD OF SOME OF THOSE EXPECTED INTEREST RATE CUTS.

TODAY, WE CAN LOOK BACK AND THOSE REDUCTIONS HAVE BEEN ACTUALIZED.

IN SEPTEMBER, THE FOMC TOOK THE TARGET RANGE DOWN BY A 25-BASIS-POINT CUT.

THEN JUST LAST WEEK, THE FOMC MET AGAIN AND FURTHER REDUCED THE OVERALL RANGE BY A 25 BASIS POINT CUT.

TODAY, THE RANGE IS SITTING AT 3 3/4 TO 4%, AND THE FOMC IS MAKING THESE DECISIONS TO REDUCE THE OVERALL INTEREST RATE WHILE KEEPING THEIR DUAL MANDATE IN MIND.

THE FOMC IS TASKED WITH REALLY TWO MAIN GOALS, ONE BEING TO FOSTER STRONG EMPLOYMENT IN THE OVERALL UNITED STATES ECONOMY, AND THEN TWO, TO KEEP INFLATION AND PRICES LOW AND STABLE.

IN SEPTEMBER, THE FOMC, FACED RISKS ON BOTH SIDES OF THIS MANDATE, WHERE INFLATION WAS CONTINUING TO SIT SLIGHTLY ABOVE THEIR LONG-TERM GOAL OF 2%.

THEN ALSO THE OVERALL US ECONOMY SAW A SOFTENING IN JOB GROWTH.

TO BALANCE THESE RISKS, THE FOMC DECIDED TO REDUCE INTEREST RATES, WHICH, AGAIN, WAS THE EXPECTATION BACK OVER THE SUMMER.

WHAT HAVE WE DONE IN FINANCE TO HELP MITIGATE AND REDUCE THE RISKS TO OUR PORTFOLIO, WHILE NATIONWIDE INTEREST RATES HAVE BEEN DECLINING? AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, THIS PAGE OF OUR REPORT PROVIDES THE OVERALL HOLDINGS.

THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS, WHERE OUR FUNDS ARE INVESTED.

YOU CAN SEE ONE WAY THAT WE MITIGATE AGAINST FALLING INTEREST RATES, IS MAINTAINING A DIVERSIFIED GROUP OF TYPES OF INVESTMENTS WE HOLD.

WE HOLD MONEY MARKET ACCOUNTS, AGAIN, LOCAL GOVERNMENT INVESTMENT POOLS, SUCH AS TEXPOOL, CERTIFICATES OF DEPOSITS, AND SECURITIES.

THAT OVERALL DIVERSIFICATION HELPS US REDUCE THE RISK, AMIDST ENVIRONMENT OF FALLING INTEREST RATES.

AS WELL AS WE TAKE A TWO-YEAR LADDERING APPROACH, AS MOST OF YOU ARE PROBABLY FAMILIAR WITH OUR INVESTING.

THAT MEANS AT ANY GIVEN POINT IN TIME, WE'RE LOOKING 24 MONTHS IN ADVANCE AND SEEING WHERE IN OUR INVESTMENT LADDER ARE THERE GAPS THAT WE COULD FILL WITH A NEW MATURITY AND ENSURE THAT WE ARE INVESTING OUR FUNDS FOR A LONG ENOUGH PERIOD OF TIME, WHERE WE'RE MAXIMIZING THE INTEREST INCOME AND EARNINGS THAT WE ACHIEVE ON OUR FUNDS, WHILE ALSO HAVING EXCUSE ME, CASH AVAILABLE.

TO MEET OUR LIQUIDITY NEEDS FOR ACCOUNTS PAYABLE, AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

THIS PAGE PROVIDES YOU A PICTURE OF OUR UPCOMING MATURITIES, AS WELL AS PROVIDES A QUARTER-OVER-QUARTER COMPARISON OF THE PORTFOLIO COMPOSITION.

AS YOU CAN SEE, ONE AREA TO NOTE, OUR OVERALL MONEY MARKET ACCOUNTS, HAVE RELATIVELY INCREASED FROM JUNE TO SEPTEMBER, AND THAT IS PRIMARILY A RESULT OF HOW WE INVESTED OUR BOND PROCEEDS, WHICH I WILL CONTINUE TO DISCUSS HERE IN A MOMENT.

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THE LAST FORMAL PAGE OF THE INVESTMENT REPORT, PROVIDES YOU A BOOK AND MARKET VALUE COMPARISON.

YOU CAN SEE FROM JUNE TO SEPTEMBER, WHAT WAS THE CHANGE IN BOTH BOOK AND MARKET VALUE FOR EACH OF OUR INVESTMENT HOLDINGS.

BOOK VALUE CAN BE DEFINED AS THE HISTORICAL COST, THAT WE PURCHASED CERTAIN INVESTMENTS AT.

THEN MARKET VALUE WOULD JUST BE WHAT WE COULD SELL THE INVESTMENTS AT TODAY.

SOME OF THE CHANGES YOU SEE THERE, THE DECREASES IN MARKET VALUE MIGHT BE REFLECTING MATURITIES, AND YOU CAN SEE THE MATURITY DATES LISTED, AND THEN CERTAIN INCREASES ARE WHERE WE HAVE INVESTED MORE OF OUR MONEY, OR PURCHASED NEW CERTIFICATES OF DEPOSIT, FOR EXAMPLE.

THAT CONCLUDES THE FORMAL QUARTERLY INVESTMENT REPORT ITSELF, BUT TO FURTHER EXPAND UPON THE ECONOMIC MARKET OUTLOOK AS WELL AS, HOW WE HAVE BEEN TAKING A STRATEGIC APPROACH TO INVESTING OUR FUNDS.

THE GRAPH THAT YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN IS INTENDED TO VISUALIZE AND SHOWCASE THE EXPECTATION FOR THE DIRECTION THAT MONETARY POLICY IN THE UNITED STATES HAS BEEN TRENDING.

AGAIN, INFLATION HAS BEEN SITTING SLIGHTLY ABOVE THE FOMCS 2% TARGET GOAL, AND SO TO BALANCE THESE RISKS, AT THE POINT IN TIME IN SEPTEMBER, THE FED WAS FORECASTING TWO POTENTIAL INTEREST RATE CUTS.

AGAIN, WE DID SEE A RATE CUT OCCUR IN SEPTEMBER AS WELL AS LAST WEEK.

IT'S TO BE SEEN WHETHER OR NOT THERE MAY BE AN ADDITIONAL RATE CUT, IN DECEMBER WHEN THE FOMC MEETS NEXT TIME.

WHAT DOES THIS MEAN FOR THE CITY OF BURLESON? WE WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT SEVERAL RECENT INVESTMENTS THAT WE HAVE MADE AS A TEAM WITH THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT, AGAIN, WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS PROVIDED TO US FROM VALUE VIEW.

HOW TO HELP MITIGATE AGAINST RISKS IN A FALLING INTEREST RATE ENVIRONMENT, IS TO INVEST IN FIXED-INCOME TYPE INVESTMENTS, WHICH WILL RETAIN THEIR HIGHER INTEREST RATES.

THAT MEANS AS THE ECONOMY IS SEEING INTEREST RATES DROP, IF WE LOCK IN A CERTAIN INTEREST RATE, BY PURCHASING A SECURATIVE DEPOSIT AND HOLDING THOSE FUNDS FOR A MATURITY TERM, THEN WE WILL EARN THE INTEREST RATE GUARANTEED AT THE TIME OF PURCHASE.

SOME EXAMPLES FOR YOU, WE RECENTLY INVESTED $2.5 MILLION IN A 12-MONTH CD, EARNING 4.39% INTEREST, AND THIS IS COMPARED TO THE EQUIVALENT TERM.

IF YOU WERE TO GO OUT TODAY, AND BUY A U.S. TREASURY FOR 12 MONTHS, YOU'D BE EARNING 3.55%.

HOW CAN WE BE CONFIDENT IN MAKING OUR INVESTMENT DECISIONS, AND LOCKING IN OUR FUNDS FOR SAY, POSSIBLY 24 MONTHS AT A TIME? WE HAVE VERY PRECISE CASH FLOW FORECASTING, THAT WE DO AS A DEPARTMENT.

THIS IS JUST A GENERAL OVERVIEW OF SOME OF THE CATEGORIES THAT INFLUENCE OUR CASH FLOW MODELING.

THE OVERALL TAKEAWAY OR MAIN POINT HERE IS THAT, THERE ARE CERTAIN INFLOWS WHICH ARE MORE PREDICTABLE IN NATURE.

FOR EXAMPLE, PROPERTY TAXES.

WE CAN MULTIPLY THE TAX BASE TIMES THE ADOPTED TAX RATE AND FORECAST AND PREDICT HOW MUCH THE CITY WILL BE TAKING IN IN THOSE TAX REVENUES, AS COMPARED TO SOME OF OUR EXPENDITURE OUTFLOWS ARE LESS PREDICTABLE IN NATURE, AND THOSE TAKE CLOSER REVIEW TO ANTICIPATE AND UNDERSTAND WHEN WE'RE GOING TO NEED CASH AVAILABLE TO MEET OUR EXPENDITURE NEEDS.

I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO THANK RANDY MORRISON, OUR DIRECTOR OF CAPITAL ENGINEERING AND HIS TEAM AND THE GREAT WORK THAT THEY DO, BECAUSE IT DOES TAKE A GREAT DEAL OF COMMUNICATION BETWEEN FINANCE AND ENGINEERING, BECAUSE THEIR DEPARTMENT, THROUGH THEIR CAPITAL EXPENDITURES, DO HAVE SOME SIGNIFICANT OUTFLOWS, THAT WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHEN THEY ANTICIPATE THOSE ARISING, AND WHEN THOSE INVOICES COME DUE.

IN ADDITION TO THE COMMUNICATION WE HAVE WITH ENGINEERING, AT ANY GIVEN POINT IN TIME, WE IN FINANCE CAN LOOK AT HOW MUCH MONEY, THE CITY HAS ENCUMBERED IN CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS, DESIGN PROJECTS AND SIMILAR.

AT THE END OF SEPTEMBER, WE HAD APPROXIMATELY 29 MILLION, ENCUMBERED THROUGH CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS AND EIGHT MILLION ENCUMBERED THROUGH DESIGN PROJECTS.

THIS MEANS WE HAVE FORMAL CONTRACTS AND PURCHASE ORDERS WITH VENDORS.

THE PROJECTS ARE OUT IN THE FIELD, THEY'RE ONGOING, AND WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE POTENTIAL 37 MILLION COMING DUE, THAT WE NEED TO HAVE AVAILABLE CASH ON HAND TO MEET THOSE NEEDS.

WITH THAT, LOOKING AT JUST AN 18-MONTH PERIOD OF OUR OVERALL INVESTMENT TIMELINE, THIS PROVIDES YOU A PICTURE OF THE APPROACH WE TOOK TO THE $53 MILLION IN BOND PROCEEDS THAT WERE RECEIVED THIS PAST SEPTEMBER.

AS MENTIONED, PER DISCUSSIONS WITH ENGINEERING, WE BUILT AN OVERALL EXPECTATION THAT 27 MILLION, THE BOND PROCEEDS WOULD BE SPENT SIX MONTHS FROM THE TIME OF DEBT ISSUANCE, AN ADDITIONAL 18,000, 12 MONTHS CUT, AND 7.5 MILLION WOULD NOT BE SPENT FOR APPROXIMATELY A YEAR AND A HALF,

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FROM THE TIME OF ISSUANCE.

WITH THE 7.5 MILLION THAT ISN'T NEEDED IMMEDIATELY, WE CHOSE TO LOCK IN A CD, AGAIN, EARNING 3.91%, WHICH YOU CAN SEE IN THE INVESTMENT REPORT HERE IN A MOMENT.

THE REMAINING APPROXIMATELY 45 MILLION, WE INVESTED IN AN ICS ACCOUNT, DEFINED AS AN INSURED CASH SWEEP ACCOUNT, THEY'RE SEMI-LIQUID, SO THEY PROVIDE FLEXIBILITY IF THE FUNDS ARE NEEDED FOR WITHDRAWAL TO PAY INVOICES.

THEY ALSO EARN TYPICALLY A HIGHER INTEREST RATE, SIMILAR TO A MONEY MARKET ACCOUNT.

>> FINALLY, TO HELP TRY AND TIE THIS ALL TOGETHER, LOOKING AT OUR 18-MONTH INVESTMENT STRATEGY, THE HIGHLIGHTED INVESTMENT HOLDINGS THAT YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN WITHIN OUR PORTFOLIO, TO SHOW YOU THE 45 MILLION THAT I PREVIOUSLY DESCRIBED, WE INCREASED OUR ICS ACCOUNT BY THAT AMOUNT, WHICH ENDED AT APPROXIMATELY 53 MILLION AT THE END OF SEPTEMBER, AND THEN THE NEW CD WE BOUGHT FOR THE 7.5 MILLION.

WITH THAT, WE RECOMMEND THE APPROVAL OF THE RESOLUTION FOR THE SEPTEMBER QUARTERLY INVESTMENT REPORT.

I WELCOME ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS YOU MAY HAVE.

AS A REMINDER, WE DO HAVE ADAM HERE WITH US TONIGHT FROM VALLEY VIEW AS WELL. THANK YOU.

>> HEY, NATALIE. THANK YOU.

JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

SECURITIES THAT WE HAVE, ARE THEY HELD TO MATURITY OR THEY AVAILABLE FOR SALE?

>> THEY'RE HELD TO MATURITY.

>> HELD TO MATURITY. BECAUSE I WAS WONDERING IF WE'VE GOT ONE THAT'S MATURING ON 11-30, AND UNFORTUNATELY, IT'S A 488, AND SO A TWO-YEAR TREASURY, WE BOUGHT IT A YEAR AGO.

THE 12-MONTH HAS COME DOWN LIKE YOU SAID, BUT IF WE'RE IN A SPOT LIKE THE TWO-YEAR 15 DAYS AGO WAS 20 BASIS POINTS LESS, WE GET SOME NEWS OR SOMETHING AND RATES SHOOT UP, DO WE EVER PROACTIVELY GO AHEAD AND BUY THE NEXT BLOCK WITH MONEY MARKET MONEY THAT WE HAVE AHEAD OF TIME, OR DO WE WAIT UNTIL THAT MATURITY?

>> WE WAIT UNTIL THE MATURITY.

FROM MY EXPERIENCE, THAT I'VE BEEN HERE, WE'LL WAIT UNTIL THE FUNDS MATURE TO REINVEST THOSE, BUT WE WILL LOOK AT THE AVAILABLE CASH WE HAVE ON HAND THAT MIGHT BE IN A SEMI LIQUID ACCOUNT OR IN A LOCAL GOVERNMENT INVESTMENT POOL AND CHOOSE TO PURCHASE A NEW CD TO LOCK IN THAT HIGHER RATE FOR WHATEVER FUNDS WE HAVE ON HAND TO INVEST.

>> THAT'S GOOD SO WE'RE A LITTLE BIT PROACTIVE THEN.

IF YOU CAN GET IT, AND IT'S ONE OF THOSE ONE-OFFS, WE NEED TO GRAB SOME.

>> THAT'S GOOD.

>> THAT'S IT. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, ADAM.

>> ANYONE ELSE?

>> I'D LIKE TO SAY NATALIE, THAT'S PROBABLY THE BEST INVESTMENT REPORT OR PRESENTATION I'VE EVER RECEIVED. THANK YOU.

>> I THINK IT'S SAYING A LOT.

THANK YOU. [LAUGHTER].

>> I GOT TO GO ALONG WITH THAT.

I'VE GOT A INVESTMENT ACCOUNT WITH RAYMOND JAMES AND EVERY QUARTER OR SO, I GET THIS VERY WELL WRITTEN REPORT THAT I READ LETTER FOR LETTER JUST SIMPLY TO ADMIRE THE IMPRESSIVELY ARTFUL WAY THAT THE WRITER HAS OF ARTICULATING CONCEPTS THAT ARE AS FAR OVER MY HEAD AS THE WINTER MIGRATION OF GEESE.

I'M VERY IMPRESSED BY YOUR KNOWLEDGE OF YOUR FIELD AND THE WAY YOU'RE ABLE TO EXPLAIN IT ALL TO US. THANK YOU.

>> I THINK THEY'RE SAYING YOU DID A GREAT JOB.

>> THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE IT.

>> IS THERE A MOTION ON THIS?

>> WHATEVER HE SAYS. [LAUGHTER].

>> I MOVE TO APPROVE.

>> I GOT A MOTION BY ADAM AND SECOND BY LARRY.

PLEASE VOTE. PASSAGE, UNANIMOUS. THANK YOU, NATALIE.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

[8.B. Receive a report, hold a discussion, and provide staff direction regarding the potential connection of Fox Lane to Hidden Creek Parkway. (Staff Contact: Randy Morrison, PE, Director of Capital Engineering)]

THAT BRINGS US TO SECTION 8, REPORTS AND PRESENTATIONS.

AT THIS TIME, WE WILL TAKE IT SLIGHTLY OUT OF ORDER IN CONSIDERATION FOR CITIZENS IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON ITEM 8B.

WE'LL BRING FORWARD 8B FIRST.

YES, I'M BRINGING FORWARD. THAT'S RIGHT?

>> CORRECT. WE'RE BRINGING B AHEAD OF A.

>> YES. THANK YOU.

8B. RECEIVER REPORT, HOLD A DISCUSSION AND PROVIDE STAFF DIRECTION REGARDING THE POTENTIAL CONNECTION OF FOX LANE TO HIDDEN CREEK PARKWAY.

STAFF PRESENTING THIS EVENING IS RANDY MORRISON, DIRECTOR OF CAPITAL ENGINEERING.

>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL.

AS YOU KNOW, MY NAME IS RANDY MORRISON.

I'M DIRECTOR OF CAPITAL ENGINEERING.

THIS ITEM YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING IS REGARDING THE FOX LANE TO HIDDEN CREEK PARKWAY CONNECTION.

ON SEPTEMBER 15TH, 2025, COUNCIL HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT

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THE POTENTIAL CONNECTION AND POSSIBLE CONCERNS WITH THE LOW WATER CROSSING.

SINCE THAT MEETING, STAFF EVALUATED POTENTIAL OPTIONS, AND I'LL PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON THAT THIS EVENING.

FOR SOME BACKGROUND, HIDDEN CREEK PARKWAY WAS DESIGNED AND CONSTRUCTED BY THE CITY SOMETIME AROUND 2006.

THE FOX LANE AREA THAT WAS ORIGINALLY A COUNTY ROADWAY, THAT WAS ANNEXED IN 2008, AND IT STILL HAS EXISTING PRESCRIPTIVE RIGHT OF WAY ALONG THE CORRIDOR.

THE CITY BUILT HIDDEN CREEK PARKWAY, AND DURING THAT TIME, IT WAS CONTEMPLATED TO MAKE THE CONNECTION TO FOX LANE, BUT THE RESIDENTS ALONG FOX LANE PETITIONED AGAINST THAT.

THEY DID NOT WANT TO HAVE THAT PUBLIC ACCESS POINT OFF OF HIDDEN CREEK PARKWAY.

IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO NOTE THE LOW WATER CROSSING.

I MENTIONED THAT A MINUTE AGO, BUT JUST ABOUT 475 FEET SOUTH OF RENFRO, WHICH IS THE PRIMARY ACCESS POINT FOR THESE RESIDENTS.

THERE IS A LOW WATER CROSSING THAT EXISTS TODAY, AND IT DOES HAVE POTENTIAL FOR FLOODING DURING A SEVERE RAINSTORM.

SINCE THE MEETING, STAFF STARTED WORKING ON A COUPLE OF OPTIONS AND EVALUATING THOSE.

I'LL RUN THROUGH THOSE QUICKLY.

WE HAVE THREE OPTIONS OR THREE BUILD OPTIONS THAT WE EVALUATED.

THE FIRST, LOOKS AT AN EMERGENCY ACCESS-ONLY OPTION.

ON THIS OPTION, THIS WOULD INCLUDE A LIMITED IMPROVEMENT TO PROVIDE CONNECTION FOR EMERGENCY ACCESS-ONLY.

IT WOULD BE A LOCKED DATED ACCESS POINT.

WE WOULD HAVE A KNOX BOX TO PROVIDE ACCESS TO EMERGENCY PERSONNEL ONLY, SO FIRST RESPONDERS.

THIS OPTION, THE ESTIMATED COST ON THIS WOULD BE ROUGHLY 100,000 TO MAKE THE PRELIMINARY IMPROVEMENTS TO MAKE THE CONNECTION THERE.

OPTION 2, WE LOOKED AT FULL PUBLIC ACCESS OPTION.

THIS WOULD INCLUDE RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION, FULL DESIGN, AND CONSTRUCTION FOR THESE IMPROVEMENTS.

THIS WOULD BE A PUBLIC ACCESS POINT, SO IT WOULD PROVIDE DIRECT-THROUGH TRAFFIC CONNECTION BETWEEN HIDDEN CREEK PARKWAY AND RENFRO STREET.

SOME OF THE CONCERNS OR POTENTIAL IMPACTS WITH THIS OPTION WOULD INCLUDE CUT-THROUGH TRAFFIC BETWEEN THE TWO MAJOR THOROUGHFARES, WHICH WOULD LEAD TO MORE WEAR AND TEAR ON THE ROADWAY, AS WELL AS CONCERNS WITH SPEEDING AND ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC.

I'LL GO THROUGH SOME FEEDBACK WE GOT FROM THE PUBLIC ABOUT POTENTIAL CONCERNS ABOUT THE WIDTH OF THAT STREET AS WELL.

THAT PRESENTS ITSELF WITH THIS OPTION. OPTION 3.

THIS WOULD BE TO ADDRESS THE LOW WATER CROSSING THAT PRESENTS THE CONCERNS WITH THE ONE ACCESS POINT.

WE TOOK A LOOK AT THAT. THERE WAS SOME ENGINEERING WORK OR ANALYSIS DONE MANY YEARS BACK, BUT WE LOOKED AT THAT AND UPDATED THE ESTIMATE REGARDING THIS OPTION.

THIS WOULD REPLACE THE EXISTING CULVERTS THAT ARE UNDER THE STREET RIGHT NOW.

THEY'RE UNDERSIZED.

IT WOULD BE REPLACING THOSE WITH SIX VERY LARGE CONCRETE BOX CULVERTS.

IT'D TAKE SIX, 10 BY 6 BOX CULVERTS.

IT WOULD INCLUDE RAISING THE ROADWAY PROFILE, ABOUT A FOOT AND A HALF, AND YOU'D HAVE TO PAVE A COUPLE OF HUNDRED FEET IN EACH DIRECTION TO CONFORM TO THE EXISTING IMPROVEMENTS.

BUT THIS OPTION IS ESTIMATED AROUND 905,000 FOR THE FULL BUILD-OUT.

THIS WOULD INCLUDE RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION, DESIGN, AND CONSTRUCTION.

LOOKING AT THE 4TH OPTIONS, REALLY, THE DO-NOTHING OPTION.

IT'S AN ALTERNATIVE TO THE OTHER THREE OPTIONS HERE, LOOKING AT ALL THE OPTIONS.

ONE THING I WANT TO POINT OUT WITH THE DO-NOTHING OPTION COMPARED TO THE THREE BUILD OPTIONS IS THERE IS NOT CURRENTLY A PROJECT IN OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM TODAY.

IT IS NOT IN OUR CIP.

IDENTIFYING A PROJECT AND MOVING FORWARD WITH A PROJECT WOULD REQUIRE AN AMENDMENT TO THE CIP TO INCLUDE ANY OF THE BUILD OPTIONS, WHICH MAY ALSO PRESENT IMPACTS TO THE OTHER CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE.

IN ADDITION TO THE ALTERNATIVES, STAFF DID REACH OUT TO THE RESIDENTS ALONG FOX LANE.

WE MAILED OUT LETTERS ON OCTOBER 16TH TO ALL THE RESIDENTS ALONG THE CORRIDOR.

THAT LETTER INCLUDED A LINK TO A SURVEY WHERE WE ASKED THE RESIDENTS A FEW QUESTIONS AND THEN PROVIDED THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK.

I'M GOING TO RUN THROUGH THE RESULTS OF THAT QUICKLY.

WE DIDN'T HAVE IT IN TIME TO PRESENT IT IN THE PRESENTATION.

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BUT WE DID ASK THEM ABOUT CONCERNS WITH ACCESS DURING RAIN EVENTS.

WE HAD 17 RESPONSES TO OUR SURVEY.

16 OUT OF THE 17 RESIDENTS SAID, NO, THERE IS NO CONCERN WITH ACCESS DURING RAIN EVENTS.

THERE WAS ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK IN THE GENERAL COMMENTS.

MOST OF THEM HAVE LIVED THERE FOR MANY YEARS AND THEY DID NOT OR HAVE NOT EXPERIENCED ANY MAJOR IMPACTS DUE TO RAIN EVENTS.

ANOTHER QUESTION, WE ASKED THEM IF THEY SUPPORTED A PUBLIC ACCESS POINT THAT WOULD PROVIDE THROUGH TRAFFIC.

17 OUT OF THE 17 RESIDENTS ARE NOT IN FAVOR OF A PUBLIC ACCESS POINT.

HOWEVER, I DID RECEIVE AN EMAIL FROM A REAL ESTATE BROKER THAT WAS REPRESENTING ONE OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT LIVE IN THE AREA, AND THEY REPRESENT OR THEY ARE IN FAVOR OF THAT.

I BELIEVE THAT THEY OWN THE PROPERTY THAT'S CLOSEST TO HIDDEN CREEK PARKWAY, BUT NONE OF THE OTHER RESIDENTS THAT RESPONDED TO THE SURVEY WERE IN FAVOR.

THEN WE ALSO ASKED IF THEY WOULD SUPPORT EMERGENCY ACCESS ONLY AND ONLY PROVIDING ACCESS IN CASE OF EMERGENCY TO FIRST RESPONDERS.12 OUT OF THE 17 RESPONSES WE'RE NOT IN FAVOR OF THAT.

FIVE WERE IN FAVOR OF THAT AND WOULD WELCOME IT.

STILL THE MAJORITY ARE NOT IN FAVOR OF THAT ACCESS FOR EMERGENCY-ONLY.

>> IS THERE ANY CORRELATION BETWEEN THE HOUSES THAT WOULD BE CUT OFF THAT VOTED? ASSUMING MOST OF THE RESIDENTS ALONG THERE HAVE ACCESS BECAUSE THEY'RE RENFRO SIDE OF THE LOW WATER CROSSING.

>> [INAUDIBLE].

>> I DON'T KNOW WHO YOU ARE, SIR, BUT THANK YOU FOR THAT COMMENT BECAUSE THAT'S CLARIFYING SOMETHING VERY IMPORTANT FOR ME.

IF THERE'S NO STRUCTURES TO BE ACCESSED, AND I DON'T MEAN TO CUT OFF OR BRING THIS TO A CONCLUSION, BUT I SEE NO JUSTIFICATION FOR DOING THIS IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE FIRE SERVICE OR POLICE SERVICE ANY DIFFERENTLY THAN WE ARE NOW.

>> HEY, RANDY, CAN YOU REPEAT WHAT THE GENTLEMAN SAID BECAUSE HE'S NOT GOING TO BE ON THE BIKE.

>> YES. I BELIEVE YOU CLARIFIED THAT THERE ARE NO RESIDENTS NORTH OF RENFRO, ALL OF THEM ARE SOUTH OF THE LOW WATER CROSSING.

NORTH OF THE BRIDGE. THEY'RE ALL SOUTH OF THE LOW WATER CROSSING, SO THEY WOULD HAVE TO CROSS THAT.

IT'S NOT A DIFFERENTIATION IF WE WERE TO MAKE THAT IMPROVEMENT.

>> THIS MAY NOT MAKE A DIFFERENCE AT ALL.

BUT DID YOU PULL THE COUNTY RESIDENTS AND THE CITY RESIDENTS SEPARATE BECAUSE I BELIEVE THE CITY BOUNDARIES ON THAT EAST SIDE, ABOUT 50% ARE IN THE COUNTY, IS THAT CORRECT?

>> WE SENT LETTERS TO ALL OF THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE ALONG THAT STRETCH OF ROADWAY.

>> I THINK JUST THE FIRST COUPLE OF HOUSES FROM HIDDEN CREEK ARE ACTUALLY IN THE CITY LIMITS, THAT LINE GOES TO THE ROAD GOES DOWN THE ROADWAYS AND THEN CUTS BACK OUT.

>> WE DID NOT ONLY POLL CITY RESIDENTS.

WE WE SENT A LETTER TO ALL THE RESIDENTS.

>> OKAY.

>> QUICK SUMMARY, JUST TO CONCLUDE THE SURVEY RESULTS.

AS I MENTIONED, MOST OR ALL OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS ARE IN OPPOSITION OF THE ROAD OPENING.

MANY OF THE RESIDENTS ARE CONCERNED WITH INCREASED TRAFFIC, FEAR OF SPEEDING, SAFETY HAZARDS, THE WIDTH OF THE ROADWAY, AND THE DETERIORATING ROADWAY.

THEY'VE MENTIONED THAT THEY'VE HAD TO GO OUT AND FILL POTHOLES THEMSELVES, AND SO INCREASED TRAFFIC WOULD FURTHER THAT ISSUE.

THEY ALL SUMMARIZE THAT THERE'S MINIMAL HISTORIC FLOODING ISSUES.

SOME OF THEM REFERENCE BEING THERE FOR 40 YEARS AND ONLY HAD ONE ISSUE, ONE TIME.

MANY OF THE RESIDENTS HAVE WORKED WITH OTHER RESIDENTS TO FIND ALTERNATIVE ACCESS POINTS.

THAT DOESN'T REALLY SEEM LIKE AN ISSUE DURING MAJOR STORM EVENTS.

THE LAST THING, THERE'S SOME SUPPORT FOR THE EMERGENCY ACCESS, BUT STILL THE MAJORITY ARE NOT IN FAVOR OF THAT.

THAT DOES SUMMARIZE THE FEEDBACK WE RECEIVED FROM THE RESIDENTS.

BE HAPPY TO COVER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

>> I'M THE ONE THAT BROUGHT THIS UP AND HAD THIS REPORT REQUESTED.

I RESPECT THE CITIZENS POLL.

I PERSONALLY FEEL LIKE THE KNOCK BOX WOULD BE GOOD.

IT WOULDN'T IMPEDE UPON ANYTHING, AND IT'D GIVE THE EMERGENCY VEHICLES ACCESS IF THEY NEEDED IT.

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WE DID PUT A HIGH WATER DETECTOR ON THE OTHER END TO DETECT HIGH WATER BECAUSE IT DOES GET HIGH.

BUT IF MAJORITY OF THE CITIZENS DON'T WANT ANYTHING, THEN I'M GOOD WITH THAT.

>> EVERYBODY, GOOD?

>> MAYOR, WE HAVE TWO SPEAKER CARDS.

I'D BE REMISS NOT TO ALLOW THE CITIZENS TO SPEAK IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO.

>> WOULD YOU ALL STILL TO SPEAK?

>> THE FIRST SPEAKER CARD I HAVE IS BARBARA.

>> MY NAME IS BARBARA MCDOUGALD, AND I HAVE LIVED ON SOUTH FOX LANE FOR OVER 50 YEARS.

WHEN I FIRST MOVED OUT THERE, IT WAS A GRAVEL ROAD, AND THE HIGH WATER CROSSING THAT EVERYBODY'S REFERRING TO HAD A WOODEN BRIDGE THAT I DON'T KNOW HOW IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE LITTLE SLATS, AND THEN YOU HAVE THE RUNNERS THAT YOU WOULD DRIVE ON.

THAT'S WHAT WE HAD.

LET'S SEE, I THINK IT WAS TWO YEARS AFTER I MOVED OUT THERE, WE DID HAVE A LOT OF RAIN.

WE DID NOT HAVE THE CLEANED OUT CREEK OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, AND IT ALMOST WASHED THE BRIDGE AWAY, WHAT WE HAD AS A BRIDGE.

THEN THE CULVERT WENT IN, AND WE HAVE HAD ONE RAIN SINCE THEN THAT IT DID NOT EVEN GET OVER THE CULVERT.

IT WAS RIGHT UP TO THE TOP OF THE CULVERT, BUT THE LOW WATER CROSSING WAS ACTUALLY LOWER THAN THE CULVERT.

THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE AN EXTENDED PERIOD PROBABLY TO FILL IN TO GET THE WATER TO RUN DOWN THE CREEK.

BECAUSE IT WOULD GO AROUND THE CULVERT AND BACK DOWN INTO THE CREEK, BECAUSE IT WAS ON THE ON THE LAND.

I CAN'T SEE THAT JUST OPENING THAT UP AND THE SPAN OF THE WATER THAT WOULD BE THERE WOULD PROBABLY BE MAYBE 10 FEET OF WHERE IT WOULD GO AROUND THE CULVERT.

BECAUSE THERE WAS SO MUCH WATER THAT THE CULVERT COULD NOT HOLD.

BUT THAT'S DUE TO THE SIZE OF THE CULVERT MORE THAN ANYTHING.

THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT I CAN'T SEE THAT IT WOULD DO THAT MUCH GOOD.

TWICE IN 50 YEARS, [LAUGHTER] WE CAN STAY AT HOME.

IT'S A RAINY DAY.

[LAUGHTER]

>> THANK YOU, MA'AM.

>> THE NEXT SPEAKER CARD I HAVE IS FOR MINDY [INAUDIBLE]. [BACKGROUND]

>> GOOD EVENING. I JUST HAVE A QUESTION, AND ANY OF YOU ALL CAN ANSWER IT.

BUT HURST ROAD IS JUST A LOVELY ROAD, AND I HAVE NEVER SEEN MORE THAN TWO CARS ON IT AT ONE TIME.

SO I'M THINKING IF THEY OPENED UP SOUTH FOX, WHICH WERE THERE AT THE END, THAT WOULD JUST BE THE BIGGEST NIGHTMARE EVER.

I THINK IT WOULD ALLOW WAY TOO MUCH COMING AND GOING ALL THROUGH THE HOURS OF THE NIGHT, BUT I HAVE BEEN OUT IN THE HOURS OF THE NIGHT.

THAT'S THE ONLY TIME HURST ROAD GETS USED. I'VE NOTICED.

[LAUGHTER] I WAS JUST WEIGHING OUT WHERE A LOT OF PEOPLE GO DOWN CARDINAL RIDGE, AND I FEEL SO BAD FOR THOSE PEOPLE.

BUT IT'S A LOVELY LITTLE SIDE TOUR.

THEN PARKRIDGE OFF OF RENFRO IS A NICE CUT THROUGH.

BUT HURST ROAD, TO ME, IS JUST UNDERUSED.

I CANNOT BELIEVE HOW NOT TRAFFIY IT IS.

I GUESS IT WAS JUST LIKE A LITTLE CONNECTOR, MAYBE.

>> I THINK I CAN OFFER A LITTLE BACKGROUND.

DON'T HOLD HER AGAINST THIS ON THE TIME.

AT THE TIME HURST ROAD WAS PLANNED, AS I RECALL.

I WASN'T ON CITY COUNCIL AT THE TIME, BUT I'M A ROAD CONTRACTOR, SO I WAS INTERESTED IN THE CONSTRUCTION OF HURST ROAD.

BUT THAT WAS PART OF THE CITY'S COMMITMENT TO HELPING THE SCHOOL DISTRICT SERVE A NEW HIGH SCHOOL SITE THAT EVENTUALLY NEVER GOT BUILT,

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BUT GOT BUILT WHERE CENTENNIAL HIGH SCHOOL IS NOW.

THAT WAS THE REASON WHY THAT WAS SUCH A WIDE MULTI-LANE THOROUGHFARE.

BUT IT WAS PART OF A PROJECT THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN, BASICALLY.

>> WELL, I APPRECIATE THAT.

IT'S A LOVELY ROAD, AND WE LOVE IT.

MY HUSBAND AND I RECENTLY GOT EBOX.

THE GUY THAT WAS HERE WITH THE EMERGENCY TRANSPORT, I WAS VERY INTERESTED IN WHAT HE HAD TO SAY IN CASE WE FALL OFF OUR BOX.

BUT ANYWAY, WE'RE VERY GLAD TO BE WHERE WE ARE, AND I JUST FELT IMPORTANT TO SPEAK OUT ABOUT WE WOULDN'T BE VERY HAPPY PEOPLE.

IN FACT, WE PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE PEOPLE THAT WOULD BE HERE IF THEY OPENED IT UP, SO THANK YOU ALL.

>> THANK YOU, MA'AM.

>> ANYONE ELSE?

>> YES. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM? IF YOU'LL JUST COME FORWARD, AND THEN AFTER YOU SPEAK, IF YOU'LL FILL OUT A SPEAKER CARD FOR US, THAT WE'D APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU.

>> MY NAME IS TONY HARON.

I LIVE ON SOUTH FOX LANE.

I WOULD JUST LIKE TO BRING TO THE ATTENTION OF THE COUNCIL THAT EVEN IF WE DID OPEN FOX LANE, WHICH I'M TOTALLY AGAINST, THAT A MAJORITY OF THE EMERGENCY SERVICES WOULD BE COMING FROM THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION THERE ON, THEY WOULD HAVE TO PASS THE EMERGENCY ENTRANCE, TURN AROUND, AND COME BACK TO IT.

IT MAKES NO SENSE BECAUSE IN THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIME, THEY COULD EASILY GO AROUND RENFRO AND COME BACK TO THE ROAD.

THEN IN MY UNDERSTANDING, 10 YEARS AGO, THEY REWORKED THE LOW WATER CROSSING.

I MOVED IN RIGHT AFTER THAT, AND THERE HASN'T BEEN REALLY ANY ISSUE SINCE THEN.

WE'VE NEVER HAD AN ISSUE WHERE EMERGENCY SERVICES HAVE TRIED TO ACCESS THE ROAD AND NOT BEEN ABLE TO.

TO ME, IT SEEMS LIKE A WASTE OF FUNDS AND A WASTE OF THE QUIETNESS AND SERENESS THAT THE ROAD PROVIDES FOR EVERYBODY ON THE ROAD. THANK YOU.

>> THANKS, SIR. WHAT'S THE DIRECTION?

>> IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS? THANK YOU. IF YOU COULD BRING FORWARD SPEAKER CARDS FOR THEM. THANK YOU.

>> LAST TIME I WAS HERE, I WAS PETITIONING FOR THE CITY OF BURLESON TO NOT ANNEX ME.

I WAS ANNEXED BACK THEN IN 2008.

I REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S ATTENTION BECAUSE BACK THEN, THEY WERE TALKING AMONGST THEMSELVES AND EVERYTHING ELSE. THANK YOU FOR THAT.

I AGREE WITH MY NEIGHBORS THAT IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE OPENED.

I'VE BEEN THERE FOR ABOUT 20 YEARS. I'M AT 208.

I'M RIGHT THERE NEXT TO THAT LOW WATER CROSSING BRIDGE.

THE ONLY TIME I EVER REMEMBER IT HAPPENING WAS PROBABLY JUST A FEW YEARS AFTER I MOVED IN THERE, AND IT CAME UP INTO MY YARD AND FLOODED ABOUT HALF.

SINCE THEN, I HAVEN'T HAD ANY PROBLEM, AND I REALLY DIDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM GETTING IN OR OUT BECAUSE I JUST WAITED ABOUT 30 MINUTES BEFORE IT TO GO DOWN.

I KNOW THAT EMERGENCY VEHICLES WOULDN'T HAVE THAT OPTION, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT.

BUT I DON'T RECALL IT HAPPENING SINCE THEN.

I THINK THERE'S PROBABLY OTHER USES THAT WE COULD PROBABLY PUT THE MONEY FROM THAT, ALLOCATE IT, MAYBE FOR SOMETHING ELSE SOMEWHERE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE YOU.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. ANYONE ELSE? THAT'S IT.

>> WOULD SOMEBODY [INAUDIBLE] OPTION.

>> OPTION 4, DO NOTHING.

I'D LIKE TO PERSONALLY THANK ALL THE CITIZENS THAT SHOWED UP TONIGHT.

THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO MAKE CONSCIENTIOUS AND GOOD DECISIONS IS THE CITIZENS' INPUT.

I APPRECIATE EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU THAT EITHER COMMENTED BACK ON THE SURVEY OR SHOWED UP TONIGHT. THANK YOU.

>> I THINK WE DECIDED ON ADAM'S OPTION 4. YOU GOT IT?

>> YES, SIR. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

[7.E. Consider and take possible action on a minute order for the spending authorization for Chisenhall concessions in the amount of $410,000. (Staff Contact: Eric Oscarson, Deputy City Manager)]

THAT WILL BRING US BACK TO SECTION 7 GENERAL.

WE'LL CONCLUDE GENERAL WITH 7E.

CONSIDER AND TAKE POSSIBLE ACTION ON A MINUTE ORDER FOR THE SPENDING AUTHORIZATION FOR CHISENHALL CONCESSIONS IN THE AMOUNT OF 410,000.

THE STAFF PRESENTER THIS EVENING IS ERIC OSCARSON, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER.

>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

TONIGHT, WE'RE HERE TO DISCUSS SPENDING AUTHORIZATION FOR SFC SO THEY CAN ACQUIRE FOOD AND BEVERAGE FOR RESALE.

JUST A QUICK BACKGROUND FOR EVERYONE.

COUNCIL PROVIDED DIRECTION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIRD-PARTY MANAGEMENT OF CHISENHALL SPORTS COMPLEX.

WE ISSUED AN RFP IN JANUARY OF THIS YEAR, CLOSED THAT RFP IN MARCH.

WE WENT THROUGH A PROCESS TO SELECT A FIRM, AND WE SELECTED SPORTS FACILITY COMPANIES AS THAT FIRM.

WE ENTERED INTO A DUE DILIGENCE PROCESS FOR $45,000 TO DETERMINE THE FEASIBILITY OF THE PROJECT.

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OVER THE MONTHS, WE CAME TO WORK WITH SFC AND BYA ABOUT ENTERING INTO AN AGREEMENT, WHICH INCLUDED TAKING OVER THE CONCESSION STANDS, AND COUNCIL APPROVED ON OCTOBER 6, THE AGREEMENT WITH SFM TO TAKE OVER MANAGEMENT OF CHISENHALL.

AS A REMINDER OF THE SCOPE OF SERVICES FOR SFM IS TO RUN THE DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS AND MANAGEMENT OF THE COMPLEX.

THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR STAFFING, SCHEDULING, MARKETING, PROMOTING CONCESSIONS, AS WELL AS FOOD AND BEVERAGE.

THEY BOOK ALL THE TOURNAMENTS, THEY DO ALL THE RENTALS.

THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR MANAGING THE FINANCES, THE MAINTENANCE OF EQUIPMENT AND GROUNDS, AND, IMPORTANTLY, THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR COMPLYING WITH CITY POLICIES, AND THAT INCLUDES THE CITY'S PURCHASING POLICIES.

AS PART OF THE PRO FORMA WE RECEIVED FROM SFC, THEY IDENTIFIED AN ANTICIPATED COST OF $410,000 FOR THE PURCHASE OF FOOD AND BEVERAGE ITEMS FOR RESALE.

THE INTENT OF THAT, AGAIN, IS FOR THE RESALE AND FOR GENERATING REVENUE.

JUST AS A REMINDER, ITEMS THAT ARE INTENDED FOR RESALE, THEY'RE NOT SUBJECT TO PURCHASING REQUIREMENTS WITH REGARDS TO LOW BID BECAUSE THEY'RE IDENTIFIED FOR RESALE, BUT WE DO REQUIRE THEM TO FOLLOW OUR PURCHASING POLICIES.

SINCE THEY'LL BE ENTERING INTO AGREEMENTS, OVER $100,000 FOR THE PURCHASE OF THESE GOODS, THIS HAS TO COME TO COUNCIL, AND SO WE'RE ASKING YOU FOR AN AUTHORIZATION AS SUCH.

THIS AUTHORIZATION IS JUST FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR.

WE ALSO IDENTIFIED THAT WE KNOW IN THE NEXT MEETING, WE'LL BE BRINGING FORWARD A MINUTE ORDER FOR THEIR SALARIES.

WE KNOW THAT THEY WERE GOING TO BE EXPENDING FUNDS TO PAY THEIR STAFF, AND SO WE WERE BRINGING FORWARD A MINUTE ORDER ON THE DECEMBER MEETING FOR THOSE EXPENSES AS WELL.

WHEN WE GO FORWARD AND WE PURCHASE ANY EQUIPMENT, IF ANY OF THAT EQUIPMENT EXCEEDS $100,000, WE'LL BE COMING FORWARD WITH THOSE PURCHASES AS WELL.

AGAIN, MAKING SURE THAT ANYTHING THAT'S OVER THAT THRESHOLD.

OUR INTENTION IS IN THE FUTURE, WHEN WE GO THROUGH THE BUDGETING PROCESS, WE HAVE A VERY DETAILED BUDGET FOR THEM AS WE GO THROUGH THIS, AND WHAT WE'LL DO IS AT THE BEGINNING OF EVERY FISCAL YEAR, WE'LL BRING FORWARD A MINUTE ORDER THAT TAKES CARE OF ALL OF THESE AND WHEN ONE FELL SWOOP, SO WE CAN JUST GET THOSE KNOCKED OUT AND THEY CAN MOVE ON WITH THEIR BUSINESS.

THIS ONE IS FOR FOOD AND BEVERAGE ITSELF, AND WE'LL BE COMING FORWARD BACK IN DECEMBER WITH A MORE DETAILED ONE WITH REGARDS TO SALARIES.

REQUESTING THIS EVENING IS AUTHORIZATION OR APPROVAL OF A MINUTE ORDER FOR SPENDING AUTHORIZATION FOR THE CHISENHALL CONCESSION STANDS IN THE AMOUNT OF $410,000.

>> ANY QUESTIONS?

>> RIGHT NOW WE'RE MEETING ON A WEEKLY BASIS TO GET UPDATES ON WHEN THEY'RE DOING WEEKLY TOURNAMENTS AND UPDATES, BUT YES, THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR PROVIDING US ON THE REPORTS ON HOW THEY'RE PERFORMING.

>> WE CAN SEE HOW MUCH OF THIS 410 THEY'RE USING EVERY MONTH, AND HOW MUCH WE'VE MADE BACK ON IT AND ALL THAT.

WE GET 100% OF THE PROFITS FROM THE SALE OF THE FOOD AND BEVERAGE, AND ALL THAT?

>> YEAH.

>> IS THERE A MOTION?

>> I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

>> I GOT A MOTION BY ALEXA AND A SECOND BY LARRY.

PLEASE VOTE. PASSES UNANIMOUS.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

[8.A. Receive a report, hold a discussion, and provide staff direction on proposed process improvements for the Development Services Department. (Staff Contact: Tony D. McIlwain, Development Services Director]

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

THAT BRINGS US BACK TO SECTION 8 REPORTS AND PRESENTATIONS.

8A IS TO RECEIVE A REPORT, HOLD A DISCUSSION, AND PROVIDE STAFF DIRECTION ON PROPOSED PROCESS IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT.

THE STAFF PRESENTED THIS EVENING IS TONY MCLAIN, DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, MR. MCLAIN.

>> THANK YOU. MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I'M SURE YOU'RE WONDERING WHAT PROCESS IMPROVEMENTS.

WHAT COULD BE NECESSARY? I'M HERE TONIGHT TO GIVE YOU A OVERVIEW OF THE DEPARTMENT.

BUT BEFORE I GET STARTED, I WANT TO TAKE TIME TO ACKNOWLEDGE SOME OF THE LEADERSHIP WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT THAT ARE OVER MY RIGHT SHOULDER.

I HAVE THE FOUR DEPUTY DIRECTORS, MOST OF WHOM YOU KNOW.

MICHELLE MCCULLOUGH, WHO'S A CITY ENGINEER, DYLAN WHITEHEAD, WHO'S THE CHIEF BUILDING OFFICIAL, LISA DUELLO, WHO OVERSEES CODE COMPLIANCE AND ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH, AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, EMILIO SANCHEZ, WHO OVERSEES PLANNING AND ZONING.

ALSO IN ATTENDANCE TONIGHT, I HAVE MR. BRECK BARRON, WHO'S OUR COMMERCIAL PLAN REVIEWER, AND MR. ANDRES GOMEZ, WHO IS OUR RESIDENTIAL PLAN REVIEWER, JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME FACES THAT GO ALONG WITH SOME OF THE FUNCTIONS WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT.

DEVELOPMENT SERVICES MISSION STATEMENT : WE COLLABORATE TO BUILD A COMMUNITY OF EQUITY, STRENGTH, AND RESILIENCY THROUGH ORDERLY, SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT, EFFICIENT AND THOROUGH BUILDING PERMITS, AND INSPECTION SERVICES, AND THE PROMOTION OF PROPERTY CODES AND ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH STANDARDS.

WE'VE GOT FOUR DIVISIONS, AS I JUST MENTIONED ON THE SCREEN THERE.