6.C. Consider and take possible action on a resolution accepting the filing of a landowner petition requesting the creation of the Chisholm Summit Public improvement District (PID) and setting a public hearing date of May 5, 2025. (Staff Contact: Tony D. McIlwain, Development Services Director)

[6.C. Consider and take possible action on a resolution accepting the filing of a landowner petition requesting the creation of the Chisholm Summit Public improvement District (PID) and setting a public hearing date of May 5, 2025. (Staff Contact: Tony D. McIlwain, Development Services Director) ]

LANDOWNER PETITION REQUESTING THE CREATION OF THE CHISHOLM SUMMIT PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT AND SETTING PUBLIC HEARING DATE OF MAY 5TH, 2025. STAFF CONTACT IS TONY MCILWAIN, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DIRECTOR.

THANK YOU, MISS SOLKO, AND GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, MAYOR PRO TEM AND COUNCIL.

THIS ITEM IS FOR YOUR REVIEW FOR A PETITION FOR THE CREATION OF A PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT .

AS YOU ARE AWARE, PID PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT ALLOWS FOR CERTAIN TYPES OF IMPROVEMENTS TO BE PUT IN PLACE FOR DEVELOPMENTS AND REQUIRES YOU, AS THE CITY COUNCIL TO CONSIDER THESE PETITIONS AND APPROVE THESE.

AND THIS IS IN ACCORDANCE WITH YOUR MOST RECENTLY ADOPTED PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT POLICY, MOST RECENTLY DONE ON MARCH 24TH. HERE RECENTLY, WITH REGARD TO THE PETITIONER THAT SUBMITTED THIS REQUEST IS THE DEVELOPER OF CHISHOLM SUMMIT . AS YOU ALL KNOW, CHISHOLM SUMMIT IS A LARGE MASTER PLAN COMMUNITY THAT WE HAVE GOING IN THE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT STAGES IN THE WEST SIDE OF THE CITY.

WE'RE LOOKING AT DEVELOPMENT THAT'S OVER 3000 RESIDENTIAL UNITS WITH A MIX OF RESIDENTIAL TYPES TO INCLUDE SINGLE FAMILY TOWNHOMES, SENIOR LIVING, AND MULTIFAMILY HOUSING. JUST BY WAY OF SOME OF THE AMENITIES, WE'RE LOOKING AT OVER TEN MILES OF INTERCONNECTED TRAILS, COMMUNITY PARKS 28 ACRES OF COMMERCIAL NODES TO INCLUDE NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES, AND THEN A CENTRAL NODE, WHICH WOULD BE WE'RE CONSIDERING CHISHOLM SQUARE.

THE SITE MAP SHOULD BE FAMILIAR TO YOU ALL ON THE COUNCIL.

THE AREA THAT WE HAVE HIGHLIGHTED OR COLORED IN THE LIGHT TAN COLOR IS THE LOCATION OF THE DEVELOPMENT CHISHOLM SUMMIT .

YOU'VE GOT AN AREA THAT'S ROUGHLY 1.8 MILES ACROSS IN NORTH SOUTH EAST WEST ORIENTATION.

THIS IS THE PROPERTY DEPICTION THAT WAS A PART OF THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT PETITION.

THIS LAYS OUT THE TRACKS THAT ARE UNDER CONSIDERATION.

THERE ARE SEVERAL TRACKS, TRACKS OF LAND, EXCUSE ME THAT WE HAVE THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED UNDER THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT PETITION.

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WITH REGARD TO THE STATEMENT THAT STAFF HAS REVIEWED FOR THE COST OF THE AUTHORIZED IMPROVEMENTS FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT.

THE DEVELOPER HAS MADE A DETERMINATION THAT THE COST WOULD BE IN THE RANGE OF $115 MILLION.

WE'RE LOOKING AT A PID RATE IN THE RANGE OF $0.40 NOT TO EXCEED RATE OF $0.40 ASSESSMENT FOR THE DISTRICT, AND THAT WOULD BE TO PROVIDE THE AUTHORIZED PUBLIC, COMMUNITY AMENITIES AND INFRASTRUCTURE.

THIS IS A TAX STACK, AS WE CALL IT, IN THE HOUSE THAT YOU MAY HAVE SEEN BEFORE.

BUT WHAT WE HAVE ARE THE RATES OF OTHER AREAS IN THE CITY BROKEN DOWN BY THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND ALSO YOUR TAXING ENTITIES. WHAT YOU HAVE IN THE GOLDENROD COLOR, EXCUSE ME, IS CHISHOLM SUMMIT , AND THE RATE THAT YOU SEE AT THE BOTTOM IS WHAT WE'RE FIGURING AT THIS POINT IN TIME, BASED ON THE ASSESSMENT THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED FROM THE DEVELOPER.

SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT A TOTAL OF $2.74. SO THAT WOULD PUT THE RATE HIGHER THAN OTHER RATES IN THE CITY.

BUT NOT MUCH HIGHER THAN WHAT YOU HAVE SEEN FOR PANCHASARP FARMS, WHICH IS THE OTHER PID THAT WE HAVE HERE IN BURLESON.

BY WAY OF AUTHORIZED IMPROVEMENTS, YOU'VE GOT TWO CATEGORIES MAJOR IMPROVEMENTS AND INTERNAL IMPROVEMENTS.

SO YOUR MAJOR IMPROVEMENTS ARE SOME OF YOUR CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT WE'RE ANTICIPATING BEING DEVELOPED IN THE PROJECT, WITH A PROPORTIONATE SHARE SPLIT BETWEEN EACH IMPROVEMENT AREA IN THE PID, WHICH IS THE SAME THING WE DO AT PANCHASARP FARMS. WE GET A BREAKDOWN OF WHAT'S GOING TO BE PROPOSED IN EACH PHASE, AND YOUR INTERNAL IMPROVEMENTS ARE THOSE AMENITIES BUILT WITHIN A PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT BUT FUNDED THROUGH THE PID ASSESSMENT? SO YOU'VE GOT PARKS, TRAILS AND UTILITIES TO EACH LOT WHICH ARE BEING PROPOSED.

JUST AS A REMINDER, ASSESSMENTS WILL ONLY PAY FOR PUBLIC AUTHORIZED IMPROVEMENTS AND THE COST ARE UNIQUE TO EACH IMPROVEMENT AREA.

SO YOU WON'T HAVE A REDUNDANCY OF REPEATING COST BECAUSE EACH IMPROVEMENT IN EACH PHASE WILL BE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT.

YOU'VE GOT FIVE PROPOSED PUBLIC DISTRICT AREAS THAT WE HAVE HIGHLIGHTED ON THE SCREEN.

AND AS FAR AS YOUR NEXT STEPS FOLLOWING YOUR ACTION TONIGHT.

BASED ON YOUR DETERMINATION, YOU MAY ACCEPT THE PETITION AND CALL FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.

THE PUBLIC HEARING WILL NEED TO BE CALLED FOR MAY 5TH.

AND AT THAT MEETING, YOU WILL MAKE A DETERMINATION FOR THE CREATION OF THE PID AND THE FOLLOWING DATES THAT WE HAVE.

SUBSEQUENT DATES. JUNE THE 2ND. JULY THE 21ST AND AUGUST 4TH.

DETAILS THE ASSESSMENT HEARING AS WELL AS FIRST AND SECOND READINGS OF THE BOND ORDINANCE.

SO YOUR REQUESTED ACTIONS TONIGHT COUNCIL ARE TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE PETITION FOR CHISHOLM SUMMIT PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT, FINDING THAT IT MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS OF CHAPTER 372 OF THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE AND CITY'S PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT POLICY SET A PUBLIC HEARING DATE OF MAY 5TH, 2025 FOR THE CREATION OF THE CHISHOLM SUMMIT PID.

AUTHORIZE STAFF TO SEND NOTICES OF THE PUBLIC HEARING TO OWNERS LOCATED WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF THE PROPOSED PID, AND LASTLY, AUTHORIZE STAFF TO POST NOTICE OF THE PUBLIC HEARING IN THE NEWSPAPER GENERAL CIRCULATION.

SO WE ASKED, FOLLOWING YOUR DISCUSSION, THAT YOU UNDERTAKE THESE ACTIONS SO THAT WE CAN FORMALIZE THE PUBLIC HEARING DATE OF MAY 5TH, AND I'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.

I BELIEVE MR. BOND IS HERE ALSO REPRESENTING THE DEVELOPER AS WELL.

ANY QUESTIONS? IS THERE A MOTION ON 6C? I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION TO SET A PUBLIC HEARING. MAY 5TH. AUTHORIZE STAFF TO SEND NOTICES TO PUBLIC.

A PUBLIC HEARING AND THE LAST BULLET WHICH JUST DISAPPEARED.

OH MY MISTAKE. WE ALSO HAVE A CLARITY ON THE TIME OF THE PUBLIC HEARING.

YES, WE WOULD SET THAT AT OUR NORMAL COUNCIL START DATE OF 5:30 MAY 5TH, 2025.

THANK YOU, MADAM SECRETARY. I HAVE A MOTION BY LARRY AND A SECOND BY ALEXA.

PLEASE VOTE. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU COUNCIL. THAT WILL BRING US TO SECTION

[7.A. Receive a report, hold a discussion and provide staff feedback regarding Be Healthy Baby Boxes (Staff Contact: Jen Basham, Director of Parks and Recreation)]

SEVEN REPORTS AND PRESENTATIONS. 7 A IS RECEIVE A REPORT, HOLD A DISCUSSION AND PROVIDE STAFF FEEDBACK REGARDING BE HEALTHY BABY BOXES.

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STAFF CONTACT IS JEN BASHAM, DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. THE FIRST ITEM THAT I AM BRINGING FORWARD THIS EVENING IS AN INITIATIVE WE CALL BE HEALTHY BABY BOXES.

SO A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON THE BE HEALTHY INITIATIVE.

SO OVERALL THE INITIATIVE IS BIGGER THAN JUST THE BABY BOXES.

IT'S ALSO PART OF OUR JUST BE HEALTHY IN BURLESON INITIATIVE.

ANOTHER EVENT THAT WE HOST EVERY YEAR IS IN SEPTEMBER.

WE HOST OUR ANNUAL FUN RUN IN 5K. BUT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS, WE STARTED PARTNERING WITH TEXAS HEALTH HUGULEY QUITE A FEW YEARS AGO.

FOR BABIES THAT ARE BORN AT THE HOSPITAL, JUST TO GIVE THEM A WELCOME TO THE COMMUNITY WHEN THEY'RE BORN.

AS YOU CAN SEE ON THIS SLIDE, THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF THE THINGS THAT ARE CURRENTLY WITHIN THESE BOXES.

SO THE BIG THING THAT IS FROM US IS THIS ONESIE THAT YOU SEE RIGHT HERE.

THE REST OF THESE ITEMS ARE GATHERED FROM OTHER ENTITIES AS WELL AS THINGS LIKE CHICK-FIL-A , GIFT CARDS SOME ORAL HEALTH KITS WATER WATCHER TAGS, AND LITTLE RUBBER DUCKIES.

AND JUST A LOT OF INFORMATIONAL MATERIAL. HERE'S WHERE WE'RE AT NOW, THOUGH.

SO WHEN THIS PROGRAM WAS STARTED, WE HAD ABOUT 300 BABIES BORN ANNUALLY AT TEXAS HEALTH HUGULEY.

CURRENTLY, WE HAVE OVER 1700 BIRTHS ANNUALLY AT THE HOSPITAL.

WE CURRENTLY BUDGET FOR 300 BIRTHS ANNUALLY FOR THIS PROGRAM.

AND SO AS YOU SEE, WE HAVE ABOUT 1400 BABIES THAT ARE NOT GETTING ANY BE HEALTHY BABY BOX AT THIS TIME.

TEXAS HEALTH ALSO PROVIDES A SIMILAR BAG THAT THEY TAKE HOME.

AND SO IF YOU'VE HAD A BABY, YOU KNOW THAT WHEN YOU'RE LEAVING THAT YOU HAVE A LOT OF EXTRA MATERIALS WITH YOU.

AND IN ADDITION TO THAT BABY. AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE STARTED TO THINK THROUGH WAS, IS THIS BOX REALLY SOMETHING THAT HELPS PARENTS ONCE THEY GO HOME? NOT TO MENTION THE FACT THAT WE'RE NOT REALLY SERVING THE NEED THAT WE ORIGINALLY INTENDED.

SO THE INITIATIVE GOALS WERE REALLY, LIKE I SAID, JUST TO WELCOME BABIES INTO THE COMMUNITY.

WE DO PULL VOLUNTEERS TOGETHER TWICE A YEAR TO HELP BUILD THESE BOXES.

OUR PROGRAM ANNUALLY RUNS RIGHT NOW ABOUT $4,000, AND WE DO HAVE A CHALLENGE WITH THE FACT THAT EVEN JUST AT 300 BOXES, THEY TAKE UP QUITE A BIT OF STORAGE. SO WE STORE THEM AT THE BRICK UNTIL TEXAS HEALTH HAS SPACE FOR A FEW BOXES, THEY'LL COME PICK UP A LOAD, WE'LL HAVE VOLUNTEERS COME BACK TOGETHER, WE'LL BUILD MORE BOXES.

AND THEN WHEN TEXAS HEALTH IS READY, THEY TAKE A FEW MORE.

BUT BUT IT IS BOTH FROM A LOGISTICAL STANDPOINT, FROM A VOLUNTEERISM STANDPOINT AND FROM THE FACT THAT WE'RE REALLY NOT MEETING THE NEED.

WE WANTED TO BRING THIS BACK TO COUNCIL TO REALLY SAY, ARE WE MEETING THE GOALS OF THIS INITIATIVE? SO BACK IN FEBRUARY, WE PRESENTED THIS ITEM TO THE COMMUNITY SERVICES COMMITTEE.

AND WE WE TALKED ABOUT THE FACT THAT RIGHT NOW WE PROVIDE THE ONESIES, AND WE ALSO DISCUSSED THE OPTION TO POTENTIALLY OFFER SOMETHING IN LIEU OF THAT TO INSTEAD OF DOING THE BOX TO EITHER DO A ONESIE OR A PACIFIER OR SOMETHING WITH THAT CITY LOGO TO WELCOME BABIES THAT COULD GO IN THE EXISTING BAG THAT TEXAS HEALTH ALREADY HANDS OUT TO PARENTS WHEN THEY BRING HOME A BABY. SOME OF THE ADVANTAGES OF THAT IS IT TAKES UP A LOT LESS SPACE.

IT'S COST EFFECTIVE. IT ACTUALLY DOES ALLOW US TO MEET ALL 1700 BIRTHS THAT ARE CURRENTLY HAPPENING, AND IT DOES NOT REQUIRE OUR STAFF TO GO SOLICIT SPONSORS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR TO PUT ALL THOSE INFORMATIONAL PAMPHLETS IN THOSE PACKAGES.

SO WITH THAT, THE COMMUNITY SERVICES COMMITTEE HAD SOME FEEDBACK.

THEY SAID, OKAY, WE SEE THAT, BUT WHAT IS SOMETHING ELSE? SOMETIMES THOSE ONESIES DON'T REALLY FIT DEPENDING ON THE SIZE OF YOUR BABY.

AND BY THE TIME IT DOES, YOU REMEMBER TO PUT IT ON YOUR BABY.

YOUR BABY'S OUTGROWN IT. SO WHAT ARE SOME OTHER ITEMS THAT WE COULD BRING FORWARD? AND THEN WE DID HAVE ONE MEMBER WHO SAID, DO WE REALLY NEED TO DO THIS PROGRAM? SO THAT IS AN OPTION THIS EVENING AS WELL. SO ONE OF THE ITEMS WOULD BE TO DO A MUSLIN BURP CLOTH WITH THE BTX LOGO IN THE CORNER, BECAUSE ALL BABIES TEND TO NEED A BURP CLOTH.

ANOTHER ITEM THAT WE THOUGHT THROUGH AS A STAFF WAS WHAT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU ALWAYS KEEP WHEN YOU HAVE A BABY? AND THAT WAS THE BEANIE THAT YOU BRING THEM HOME IN.

AND SO WE THOUGHT IF WE WANTED TO DO A KEEPSAKE THAT WE THOUGHT PEOPLE WOULD ACTUALLY KEEP THAT SMALL, THAT THEY WOULD FOLD AND PUT IN THEIR LITTLE BOX, MAYBE A BEANIE WOULD BE SOMETHING. THE THIRD ITEM WAS, WHAT IF YOU JUST GAVE THEM SOMETHING THAT THEY COULD SAY? I COULD STAMP SOMETHING MYSELF.

WE ALSO LOOKED AT A STUFFY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

IT BROKE THE BANK AS FAR AS BUDGET. SO WE BROUGHT THESE THREE ITEMS FORWARD THIS EVENING FOR CONSIDERATION.

SO THE BEANIES ARE A LITTLE OVER $2 A PIECE. IT PUTS US RIGHT OVER BUDGET BY $46, WHICH WE WOULD ABSORB IN OUR OPERATIONAL COST.

THE MUSLIN BURP CLOTHS ACTUALLY COME IN UNDER BUDGET AT $1.96 A PIECE, AND THEN THAT STAMP KIT IS $1.61 AND THAT IS THE END OF THIS ITEM.

SO WHAT WOULD, LOOKING FOR DIRECTION. ANYBODY? I HAVE NO I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT A BABY NEEDS. SO I'M JUST GOING TO ASK QUESTIONS UP HERE.

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HELP OUT. WELL I LIKE THIS PROGRAM. I DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT TILL THE AGENDA CAME OUT.

I THINK I KNOW KERRY MONTGOMERY WORKED VERY HARD ON IT TO GET A LOT OF THE VOLUNTEER STUFF, BUT I UNDERSTAND THE NEED TODAY. I KNOW WHEN I WAS RAISING MY SON, I DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH BURP CLOTHS.

NEVER DID. SO THAT'D BE ONE ITEM I WOULD BE CONSIDERING.

I THINK I'M LEANING MOST FAVORABLY TOWARD THE BURP CLOTH.

I THINK IT'S A CUTE KEEPSAKE ITEM, BUT ALSO USER LIKE.

EVERYONE NEEDS IT. THERE'S ALWAYS SOMETHING TO CLEAN UP WITH A BABY.

BUT, AND I APPRECIATE THE EFFORT THAT STAFF WENT IN TO LOOK AT SOME OTHER OPTIONS.

I THINK MOVING AWAY FROM HAVING TO STORE BOXES OR BAGS OF GOODIES AND RECRUIT OUR STAFF ACROSS THE WHOLE CITY IS CONTINUOUSLY WORKING WITH COMMUNITY PARTNERS, AND WE WANT TO UTILIZE THOSE RESOURCES WHERE THEY'RE BEST UTILIZED.

AND IF WE'RE NOT EVEN MEETING THE NUMBER, I DON'T THINK IT MAKES MUCH SENSE TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THOSE EFFORTS AND THEN NOT COME CLOSE TO THE AMOUNT OF BABIES THAT ARE BEING BORN, BUT I LOVE THE IDEA OF JUST A ONE SMALL LITTLE KEEPSAKE ITEM THAT TEXAS HEALTH COULD THROW IN AN EXISTING PACKAGE THAT THEY ALREADY GIVE TO PARENTS.

I AGREE WITH DOING AWAY WITH THE BOXES AND THEN JUST DOING THE ONE ITEM, AND I VOTE FOR THE BURP CLOTH.

I MEAN, IF WE DON'T HAVE 1700 BURLESON BABIES BEING BORN, AND I WONDER IF PEOPLE FROM OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT GO TO THE HOSPITAL, WHICH ITSELF IS ACTUALLY NOT IN BURLESON, I WONDER IF THEY WOULD EVEN KNOW WHAT THE BTX LOGO MEANS.

I WONDER IF WE DO THIS, IF WE SHOULDN'T BRAND OURSELVES MAYBE A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY SO THEY KNOW IT'S BURLESON TEXAS AND NOT SOME UNKNOWN ENTITY? ABSOLUTELY. I LIKE THE IDEA OF WHERE THE WHOLE THING'S GOING.

THAT'S JUST THE ONLY COMMENT I HAVE. I BELIEVE WE WOULD BE WELL SUITED TO COMBINE OUR EFFORTS WITH WHAT TEXAS HEALTH HUGUELY'S ALREADY DOING, AND JUST HAVE AN ARTICLE IN THE BAG AND THE BURP CLOTH SOUNDS FUN THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.

IF IT SAID BURLESON INSTEAD. YEAH IF IT SAID BTX BURLESON TEXAS.

JUST JUST SO. I MEAN, IF I WAS FROM FORT WORTH, I PROBABLY DON'T KNOW WHAT BTX MEANS.

FAIR. AND PART OF THIS IS A WELCOMING THING. I MEAN, YOU'RE HAVING CHILDREN MAY NOT BE BORN WITHIN THE CITY, BUT THEY'RE NEARBY. AND, YOU KNOW, PART OF THE EFFORT IS TO PROMOTE OURSELVES.

PART OF THE EFFORT IS TO PROMOTE HEALTH JUST BY BEING VISIBLE AS AN ENTITY, WHICH, BY THE WAY, BE HEALTHY IN ITSELF IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE THINGS THAT WE DO IN THE CITY.

I WANT TO DO A WHOLE LOT MORE WITH IT AS YEARS GO BY.

BUT ANYWAY THAT'S THE ONLY COMMENT I HAVE. I'D LIKE TO MAKE SURE THEY KNOW WHAT THAT'S ALL ABOUT.

WHAT IT ACTUALLY MEANS. YEAH. OKAY. I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA.

ALL RIGHT. BURP RAGS. EASY PEASY. AND I DO LIKE WHAT DAN IS SAYING.

THE BTX LOGO IS GREAT, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT DON'T RECOGNIZE IT.

SO, YEAH, LET'S GET A LITTLE MORE. WE CAN USE OUR BRAND.

JUST THE BURLESON. MAYBE SAY WELCOME FROM BURLESON OR SOMETHING ON THE SIDE.

ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. PERFECT. THANK YOU. OKAY, THAT'LL MOVE US ON TO 7B, RECEIVE A REPORT, HOLD A DISCUSSION AND PROVIDE STAFF DIRECTION

[7.B. Receive a report, hold a discussion and provide staff direction regarding the indoor pool stair and slide structure. (Staff Contact: Jen Basham, Director of Parks and Recreation)]

REGARDING THE INDOOR POOL STAIR AND SLIDE STRUCTURE.

STAFF CONTACT IS JEN BASHAM, DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION.

MISS BASHAM. OKAY, SO THIS IS QUITE A LENGTHY PRESENTATION THAT I'M BRINGING FORWARD THIS EVENING.

AND I'M GOING TO TRY TO HIT THE NUTS AND BOLTS OF IT, NO PUN INTENDED.

SO PLEASE STOP ME IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ALONG THE WAY.

SO A LITTLE BACKGROUND. OUR NATATORIUM, OBVIOUSLY THE BRICK WAS BUILT BACK IN 2010.

WE STARTED SEEING SOME RUST AND SOME CHALLENGES BACK IN 2019.

THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME WE HAD TO SPEND QUITE A BIT OF DOLLARS ON THE INDOOR STAIR AND SLIDE STRUCTURE, SO WE SPENT $80,000 BACK IN 2019. THE RESULTS OF THAT INSPECTION.

AND THEN IN NOVEMBER OF 2020, WE ALSO SPENT ANOTHER $8,000.

FAST FORWARD TO JUNE OF 2024 DURING OUR ANNUAL INSPECTION WITH TMLRIP.

WE RECEIVED FEEDBACK FROM THE INSPECTOR AT THE TIME OF THE VISUAL INSPECTION THAT THERE WAS SOME ADDITIONAL RUST THAT WAS A LITTLE BIT MORE PREVALENT THAN THE YEAR BEFORE, AND HE HAD SOME CONCERNS. SO HE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT BEFORE IT MOVED FORWARD OR WE DID ANYTHING ELSE, THAT WE HAD AN ADDITIONAL INSPECTION. SO AT THAT TIME WE CLOSED THE POOL, THE SLIDE IMMEDIATELY.

AND HE DID MAKE THAT REQUEST IN THE WRITTEN REPORT THAT A STRUCTURAL ENGINEER INSPECT IT FOR INTEGRITY.

SO THAT STARTED KIND OF A REALLY LENGTHY PROCESS FOR STAFF TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WE WERE REALLY NEEDING TO DO.

SO AS OF JANUARY 2025, THIS IS JUST A SIDEBAR.

THIRD PARTY IS REQUIRED TO INSPECT THE SLIDE AND STAIRS EVERY FIVE YEARS.

SO THAT'S A NEW INSPECTION REQUIREMENT THAT STARTED THIS JANUARY POST THIS.

AND IT'S FOR ANY AQUATIC FACILITY. PER THE MANUFACTURER'S RECOMMENDED INTERVAL.

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SO IF IT'S NOT EVERY FIVE YEARS, IF THE MANUFACTURER SAYS EVERY 2 OR 3 OR 7, THAT'S WHAT THE INTERVAL WILL BE.

BUT BETWEEN THAT INITIAL INSPECTION AND WHEN WE BROUGHT IT FORWARD INITIALLY TO THE PARK BOARD IN FEBRUARY, WE WORKED WITH THAT INSPECTOR AND A THIRD PARTY INSPECTOR TO DETERMINE WHAT REMEDIATION REQUIREMENTS WERE REALLY NECESSARY.

SO WE GOT THAT INITIAL REPORT AND IT SAID, YOU KNOW, LET'S LOOK AT SOME STUFF AND SOME STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY, GET A THIRD PARTY OUT HERE TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT. WELL, WE HAD THAT THIRD PARTY OUT.

AND ONCE WE SUBMITTED THAT, THE INSPECTOR SAID, NO, I REALLY DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH IT.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE INTEGRITY IS. AND SO AT THAT TIME, STAFF STARTED GATHERING QUOTES FOR BOTH REFURBISHMENT AND REPLACEMENT.

AND THEN IT REALLY BECAME A CONVERSATION OF, YES, WE CAN REFURBISH, BUT WHICH ONE IS MORE COST EFFECTIVE IN THE LONG TERM? AND SO THAT TOOK SOME TIME. WORKING THROUGH BOTH THE QUOTING CRITERIA AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

SO WE BROUGHT IT FORWARD IN FEBRUARY TO THE PARK BOARD TO, GET THEIR FEEDBACK.

AT THAT TIME, THEY WEREN'T REALLY COMFORTABLE WITH THE ITEM, SO IT WAS TABLED AND BROUGHT BACK TO THE PARK BOARD ON MARCH 20TH.

AND SO BASED ON THAT FEBRUARY 13TH MEETING, YOU CAN SEE ALL OF THE WORK THAT STAFF HAS BEEN WORKING ON TO SEE WHERE WE'RE AT.

SO ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS WE DID WAS REACH OUT TO THE MANUFACTURER DIRECTLY.

SO IN THE PAST WHEN WE'D WORKED WITH THE MANUFACTURER, THEY, WERE ABLE TO GIVE US SOME FEEDBACK ON SOME THINGS, BUT AT THE TIME, WE WERE NOT AWARE THAT THEY ACTUALLY PROVIDED A SERVICE FOR DOING THE WORK FOR REFURBISHMENT OR REPLACEMENT.

SO WE FOUND THAT OUT ONCE WE REACHED OUT TO THEM BEFORE THE PARK BOARD MEETING, THOUGH THEY WERE NOT ABLE TO DO AN ONSITE VISIT, THEY ACTUALLY WERE ONLY ABLE TO DO A VISUAL BASED ON SOME PHOTOS WE SUBMITTED BECAUSE THE COMPANY IS OUT OF KANSAS CITY.

SO AT THE TIME OF THE SECOND PARK BOARD MEETING, THEY HADN'T BEEN ON SITE YET.

STAFF ALSO REACHED OUT TO ALL OF THE ORIGINAL VENDORS TO ASK FOR SOME ADDITIONAL OPTIONS BASED OFF OF PARK BOARD 'S FEEDBACK.

SO ONE WAS IF WE WERE GOING TO REFURBISH THE STAIR WOULD WE INCLUDE THE REMOVAL OF THE TREADS TO ADDRESS THE RUST? AND SO YOU'LL SEE ON A SUBSEQUENT SLIDE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A STRUCTURAL ENGINEERING REPORT AS WELL AS A MANUFACTURING REPORT.

AND, FROM BOTH OF THOSE, YOU'LL SEE THAT THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE WITH THE DESIGN OF THE CURRENT STRUCTURE IS THAT IT HOLDS WATER.

AND SO IF YOU'RE IN A VERY CORROSIVE ENVIRONMENT AND YOUR DESIGN HOLDS WATER, YOU GET RUST.

SO SO WE RECOGNIZE THAT. AND SO WE SAID, OKAY, IF WE'RE GOING TO REMOVE THE TREADS, IN ADDITION TO ADDRESSING THE RUST AND SANDBLASTING, WHAT WOULD THAT COST US? IF WE'RE GOING TO WORK ON THE STAIRS, WHY DON'T WE LOOK AT THE SLIDE AT THE SAME TIME? SO IF WE WERE TO REFURBISH OR REPLACE THE SLIDE, WHAT WOULD THOSE COST BE AS WELL? SO WE TOOK THAT. WE ALSO TOOK THAT MOST RECENT INSPECTION REPORT.

AND WE LOOKED AT IT AND SAID, OKAY, ARE THERE OTHER ITEMS THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS WHILE WE'RE DOING THIS? AND SO SOME OF THOSE ITEMS BUT BETWEEN FEBRUARY AND NOW HAVE ALREADY BEEN COMPLETED WHILE OTHERS ARE STILL IN PROGRESS, AND I'LL TALK TO THE MAINTENANCE STANDARDS IN A FEW SLIDES.

WE ALSO WORKED WITH OUR NEW CAPITAL ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT TO SOURCE A STRUCTURAL ENGINEER TO INSPECT THIS EXISTING STRUCTURE.

SO THIS SAYS INITIAL DRAFT REPORT. WE'VE SINCE HAD THIS REPORT FINALIZED AND THE OBSERVATIONS ARE THE SAME.

AND YOU'LL ESSENTIALLY I WON'T READ THIS BULLET BY BULLET, BUT THE NUTS AND BOLTS OF IT ARE THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF RUST.

AND IT STARTS AT THE TOP OF THE RISES AT THE CONTACT POINT, AND THEN IT LANDS IN THOSE PANS IT COLLECTS AND THEN IT RUNS DOWN IN RUST.

MOST OF THAT CORROSION, THOUGH, IF YOU SEE THE HIGHLIGHTED ONE, APPEARS TO BE DUE TO THE POOL WATER CASCADING DOWN THE STRUCTURE FROM THE UPPER PLATFORM.

AND THEN YOU SEE THEIR CONCLUSION AREAS WERE BASED OFF OF SURFACE MINERAL DEPOSITS THAT WERE NOT OBSERVED ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE NATATORIUM.

SO, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAD A PREVALENT RUST ISSUE THROUGHOUT THE THING, YOU WOULD NOTICE THAT ACROSS THE BOARD.

BUT BUT YOU SEE IT REALLY CONCENTRATED IN THESE AREAS.

IT ALSO SAYS THAT THE OTHER STEEL STRUCTURES THAT ARE PROTECTED FROM CASCADING WATER DO NOT HAVE THESE ISSUES.

THEY ALSO NOTED THAT THE GALVANIZED AND NON GALVANIZED PIPE SUPPORTS BELOW THE UPPER LANDING WERE HEAVILY CORRODED, WHICH SUPPORTS WHAT STAFF REALLY THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, GOSH, LOOKING INTERNALLY, ARE WE DOING THE PROPER MAINTENANCE ON THIS OR NOT.

AND FROM THE STRUCTURAL ENGINEERING REPORT IT FELT MORE LIKE, NO, IT'S THE DESIGN ON THIS AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE RUST ON IT.

SO THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE STRUCTURAL ENGINEERING REPORT WAS TO RECOAT OR REPLACE THE STAIRCASE, EITHER ONE, BECAUSE THEY THEY UNDERSTOOD THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT THIS BOTH FROM A MAINTENANCE STANDPOINT, BUT ALSO FROM A PHYSICAL STANDPOINT. THEY MADE SOME ADDITIONAL RECOMMENDATIONS THAT IF WE WERE GOING TO REPLACE THE STRUCTURE THAT IT NEEDS TO ENTER SOME TYPE OF DRAIN, AND I'LL TALK TO THE POTENTIAL DESIGN AMENDMENT THAT WOULD HAPPEN THAT WOULD ADDRESS THAT.

THEY ALSO JUST TALKED THROUGH SOME OF THE CONSIDERATIONS FOR RECOATING, FOR HOW WE SHOULD ADDRESS ANY BOLTS BETWEEN THE RISERS, AND THEN TALK ABOUT INSERTING A NEOPRENE OR PLASTIC STRIP BETWEEN THE STAIRS AND THE TREAD PANELS.

OF COURSE, THIS WOULD BE IF WE WERE TO CHOOSE TO REFURBISH.

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SO THIS IS THE CURRENT MAINTENANCE THAT WE DO ON THIS SLIDE AND STAIR TOWER.

SO EVERY DAY WE INSPECT BEFORE AND AFTER THE PUMPS ARE TURNED ON AND WE ADDRESS THOSE DEFICIENCIES IMMEDIATELY.

WE ALSO RINSE IT WITH FRESH WATER SO THAT IT DOESN'T HAVE THE POOL WATER WITH ALL THE ADDITIONAL CHEMICALS IN IT.

MONTHLY SOMETHING THAT WE WILL BE ADDING OR WE'RE LOOKING INTO ADDING IS UTILIZING A PREVENTATIVE RUST CHEMICAL.

THIS IN THE PAST HAS BEEN AN EXPENSIVE THING.

THAT STAFF KIND OF WAS ON THE FENCE ON. DO WE ADD THIS OR DO WE NOT? BUT MOVING FORWARD, WE WILL BE RESEARCHING IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WILL HELP WITH THE LONGEVITY OF THE STRUCTURE.

AND THEN BIMONTHLY, WE CHECK ALL OF THE JOINTS AND RECAULK AND WAX AS NEEDED.

AND ANNUALLY WE DO THE WATER SLIDE CONNECTOR, FASTENER INSPECTION AND REPLACEMENT.

BUT WITH THIS, AS WITH ANY PROCESS IF WANDA BULLARD WERE HERE, SHE WOULD CALL THIS A DID WELL DO BETTER.

SO WE DID WELL. BUT WE CAN DO BETTER. [LAUGHTER] SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE IDENTIFIED IS WE HAVE A LOT OF GREAT BEST PRACTICES, BUT WE DO NOT HAVE THEM WRITTEN. SO WE HAVE DEVELOPED OUR SOPS IN COLLABORATION WITH THE SLIDE AND STAIR MANUFACTURERS.

SO OUR CURRENT SOPS THAT ARE DRAFTED ARE IN ALIGNMENT WITH THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS.

AS WE DISCUSSED THE LAST SLIDE THAT WE HAVE WORKED WITH THE MANUFACTURER TO ENHANCE OUR CURRENT MAINTENANCE.

AND ONE OF THE REQUESTS FROM PARK BOARD WAS TO SEE IF THERE WAS A THIRD PARTY INSPECTION THAT COULD BE PERFORMED BY THE MANUFACTURER ANNUALLY AND WHAT THAT WOULD INCLUDE.

SO THAT ANNUAL COST WOULD BE A LITTLE OVER $12,000.

AND WHAT THAT WOULD INCLUDE WOULD BE ONE INSPECTION WITH THE CLEANING.

SOME SMALL CHIP AND GAUGE REPAIRS AS WELL AS RECAULKING.

SO TYPICAL MAINTENANCE, SO VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WE CURRENTLY DO IN HOUSE.

AND THEN IF THEY IDENTIFIED ANY DEFICIENCIES BEYOND THAT, THEY WOULD PROVIDE A QUOTE FOR US TO DO ANY RUST REMEDIATION, BOLT REPLACEMENT, TREAD REPAIR, LEAK REPAIR. ALL OF THOSE THINGS WOULD BE QUOTED AS AN ADDITIONAL COST.

STAFF ALSO WORKED. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT BROOKE'S BEEN WORKING ON FOR A LONG TIME IS OUR WORK ORDER SYSTEM CALLED CARTOGRAPH, AND WE IMPLEMENTED IT IN PUBLIC WORKS FIRST A FEW YEARS AGO.

WE BEING PUBLIC WORKS AND THEN OUR PARK SYSTEM IS CURRENTLY ALSO UTILIZING THAT.

BUT WE'RE, WORKING TO ON BOARD THE BRICK AS AN ADDITIONAL FACILITY.

WE STILL HAVE QUITE A FEW FACILITIES THAT NEED TO BE PHASED INTO THAT SYSTEM.

BUT THE BRICK IS A PRIORITY RIGHT NOW. AND SO MOVING FORWARD, THIS WILL BE A WAY FOR US TO TRACK THOSE WORK ORDERS AS THEY'RE COMING THROUGH.

WE DO CURRENTLY TRACK THE DAILY MAINTENANCE THROUGH OUR AQUATIC SYSTEM.

AND SO EVEN WITH THE ONBOARDING OF CARTOGRAPH, WE WILL STILL MAINTAIN OUR DAILY MAINTENANCE LOGS WITHIN AQUATICS BECAUSE THAT ALSO DOES OUR CHEMICALS THROUGH THE SYSTEM. AND THEN SOME ADDITIONAL ITEMS THAT WERE ALREADY IN THE WORKS BUT WILL BE ADDRESSED IS THAT IN 2024, AS PART OF OUR CAPITAL PROGRAM, WE WERE DIRECTED TO REPLACE THAT DEHUMIDIFICATION SYSTEM.

IN ADDITION TO THAT DEHUMIDIFICATION SYSTEM, WE PROPOSE ENHANCING THAT SYSTEM WITH AN EVACUATOR SYSTEM, WHICH WOULD PULL THE AIR FROM THE GROUND LEVEL AND PULL THAT BACK INTO THE DEHUMIDIFICATION TO CIRCULATE IT AND CLEAN IT BEFORE IT HITS, WHICH SHOULD HELP MOVING FORWARD WITH ANY RUST ISSUES THAT WE'RE HAVING IN THE POOL.

ALSO IN THE LAST BULLET. SO LOTS OF MAINTENANCE STUFF IS HR INTRODUCED A NEW POSITION THIS LAST FALL FOR RISK MANAGEMENT.

THAT'S THE FIRST TIME WE'VE HAD THAT POSITION IN OUR CITY. SO WITH THAT, ALL INSPECTIONS OCCUR, NOT JUST THIS STRUCTURE, BUT ANY INSPECTIONS THAT ARE COMPLETED BY A THIRD PARTY WILL GO TO THAT POSITION.

AND THEN IF THERE'S ANY DEFICIENCIES OR WEAKNESSES WITHIN THOSE INSPECTIONS, THEY'LL BE REPORTED TO SUBMIT TO CITY MANAGEMENT.

SO THIS SLIDE IS A LOT OF INFORMATION. SO I'M GOING TO TRY TO MAKE IT THE SMOOTHEST AS WE CAN.

SO WHEN WE PRESENTED THIS INITIALLY TO PARK BOARD WE HAD QUOTES FROM ARC SAFE SLIDE AND LANDMARK.

ARC WITHDREW FROM THE PROCESS BETWEEN OUR INITIAL REQUEST AND THE SECOND, THAT THEY JUST DIDN'T FEEL LIKE THEY WOULD BE THE LOW BID.

WHEN ALL WAS SAID AND DONE. SAFE SLIDE. PROVIDED US QUOTES FOR REPLACEMENT AND REFURBISHMENT OF THE STAIR AND SLIDE AND REPLACEMENT OF THE STAIRS. LANDMARK GAVE US THAT REPLACEMENT OF THE STAIR TOWER AND THEN DID NOT RESPOND TO THOSE OTHERS.

AND THEN YOU'LL SEE THE NEW ONE AT THE BOTTOM, WHICH IS SPLASHTACULAR THE MANUFACTURER.

AND SO IF YOU SEE ON THE BOTTOM LEFT, THERE'S JUST A QUOTE FROM THE ARC OWNER, BUT THEY'RE CURRENTLY NO LONGER INTERESTED IN THIS PROJECT. AND THEN I WANT TO MAKE A NOTE. SO YOU SEE THE ASTERISK WHERE IT SAYS SPLASHTACULAR QUOTED $75,000 TO REFURBISH THE SLIDE.

SO THAT WOULD BE IN ADDITION TO THE STAIR TOWER COST, PUTTING THAT AT $245,000 IF THEY WERE TO REFURBISH THE STAIRS IN THE SLIDE. OR 295 TO REPLACE THE STAIRS AND THE SLIDE.

AND THERE IS ALSO A LITTLE EXCERPT ON IF WE WERE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH SAFE SLIDE.

THEIR WARRANTIES ARE LISTED THERE AS WELL. SO FOR THE REFURBISHMENT, I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH EACH ONE OF THESE,

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BUT WE JUST WANTED TO SHOW A VISUAL REPRESENTATION.

THEY ALL HAVE THEIR OWN SPECIFIC LANGUAGE AND NOMENCLATURE, BUT YOU CAN SEE WHAT THAT MEANS.

SO IF WE WERE TO REFURBISH THE STAIRS, YOU'LL SEE SPLASHTACULAR SCOPE THERE ON THE LEFT AND SAFE SLIDES ON THE RIGHT.

BUT FOR THE BULK OF IT, WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IS THEY'RE GOING TO REPLACE THE ENTIRE STRUCTURE AND THE TREADS IF THEY ARE REPLACING IT.

BUT FOR REFURBISHMENT, THEY'RE ALSO GOING TO PULL THOSE TREADS AND THOSE PANS, THEY'RE GOING TO SANDBLAST THE ENTIRE STRUCTURE, AND THEY'RE GOING TO REMOVE ANY RUSTED BOLTS AND REPLACE THOSE AS WELL.

AND FOR THE SLIDE YOU'LL SEE THE SAME TYPE OF EQUATION.

SO IF THEY WERE TO REFURBISH THE SLIDE THEY WOULD REPAIR THE BLEMISHES, THEY'D REMOVE ALL OF THE EXISTING CAULKING AND REPLACE ALL OF THE SEAMS. THEY'D APPLY A NEW GEL COAT. THEY WOULD DO NEW CAULKING THROUGHOUT, AND THEY WOULD PREP THE EXTERIOR, REMOVING ANY FAILED COATINGS OR CALCIUM BUILDUP THAT'S CURRENTLY THERE.

AND THEN YOU'LL SEE IF WE WERE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH SAFE SLIDE, THEY'D ALSO PERMANENTLY SEAL AND ANY AND FIBERGLASS OVER THE SEAMS. THEY WOULD LAMINATE SEAMS WITH VINYL ESTER RESIN.

THEY DO PREMIUM COATING OVER THE SEAMS AND ALL OF THE ADDITIONAL.

AND OF COURSE THEY WOULD WASH IT. AND THEN IF WE WERE TO REPLACE THOSE, IT'S A MUCH MORE APPLES TO APPLES COMPARISON.

SO THEY WOULD DEMO THE ENTIRE STRUCTURE AND THE FIBERGLASS SLIDE TO INCLUDE THE HAUL OFF.

THEY WOULD INSTALL A NEW STEEL SUPPORT TOWER.

IT SAYS OF THE SAME DESIGN. SO THAT JUST MEANS IT RETROFITS ONTO THE EXISTING PIER AND FOUNDATION.

BUT THE STRUCTURE ITSELF WOULD BE OF A NEW DESIGN, SO IT WOULDN'T HAVE THE ISSUES WITH THE POOLING OF THE WATER.

THEY WOULD INSTALL A NEW FIBERGLASS SLIDE OF THE SAME DESIGN, HEIGHT AND LENGTH AND RIDE PATH ON THE EXISTING FOUNDATIONS, AND THOSE WOULD BE DESIGNED BY SPLASHTACULAR, AND THEN THIS WOULD ALSO INCLUDE THE LIFT AND EQUIPMENT.

AND AS I SAID BEFORE, IN ANY OF THESE SCOPES, NEW SMART TREAD DESIGN WOULD BE INCLUDED.

SO WHEN WE PRESENTED THIS TO PARK BOARD ON MARCH 20TH WE GAVE THEM ALL OF THE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT WE JUST PRESENTED TO YOU THIS EVENING.

IT WAS UNANIMOUS THAT THE BOARD FELT MOVING FORWARD WITH REPLACING THE STAIR STRUCTURE WOULD BE THE WAY TO GO.

BUT FOR REFURBISHMENT OR REPLACEMENT OF THE SLIDE, THERE WERE FIVE MEMBERS WHO FELT THEY SHOULD JUST REFURBISH THE SLIDE, WHILE TWO STATED THEY'D RECOMMEND THEY'D GO EITHER WAY.

THEY ALSO DISCUSSED THE POTENTIAL ADDITION OF THE MAINTENANCE CONTRACT WITH SPLASHTACULAR.

AND STAFF RECOMMENDED MOVING FORWARD WITH A ONE YEAR CONTRACT TO SEE HOW THAT GOES.

GIVE US A YEAR OF THEM SHOWING US WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT, WHAT THAT INSPECTION SHOULD BE DOING, THAT MAINTENANCE FOR THE FIRST YEAR, TRAINING OUR STAFF, AND THEN WE WOULD DECIDE AT THAT POINT IF WE NEEDED TO CONTINUE WITH THAT MAINTENANCE CONTRACT, OR IF STAFF FELT COMFORTABLE KNOWING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT HEIGHTENED LEVEL OF MAINTENANCE ON A NEW STRUCTURE MOVING FORWARD.

NOW, SINCE THEN, SPLASHTACULAR WAS ABLE TO DO AN ON SITE INSPECTION, AND THEIR RECOMMENDED REMAINED WHAT IT INITIALLY WAS BEFORE THEY CAME ON SITE, WHICH WAS TO REFURBISH. BUT THEY THEY STATED THAT IF THE CITY IS GOING TO REPLACE THE STAIR STRUCTURE, THAT THEY WOULD ADVISE US REPLACING THE SLIDE CONCURRENTLY BECAUSE THEY WOULD BE DECONSTRUCTING IT TO REPLACE THE STAIR STRUCTURE.

AND SO IF WE'RE GOING TO DECONSTRUCT IT, IT'S GOING TO BE A BEAST TO PUT BACK TOGETHER AND PUT BACK UP THERE.

WE MIGHT AS WELL PUT A NEW STRUCTURE IN AT THE SAME TIME.

SO WE WORKED WITH THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT TO REVIEW OUR QUOTES.

AND AS THE MANUFACTURER, SPLASHTACULAR IS CONSIDERED A SOLE SOURCE PROVIDER, BEING THAT THEY WOULD MEET THIS IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE EXISTING POOL CLOSURE REMODEL SCHEDULE THIS FALL, AS WELL AS THEM HAVING ENGINEERED AS PART OF THE CURRENT IMPLEMENT NOW.

IN CONTRAST, SPLASHTACULAR WOULD NOT MEET THE CRITERIA FOR SOLE SOURCE.

IF WE WERE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH REFURBISHMENT AND THEY ARE NOT CURRENTLY PART OF ANY COOPERATIVE PURCHASING AGREEMENTS BECAUSE AS A STANDARD, THEY AREN'T TYPICALLY THE ONES THAT YOU REACH OUT TO DO THIS WORK.

IT'S THROUGH THAT THIRD PARTY, LIKE A SAFE SLIDE OR AN ARC OR A LANDMARK.

SO THEY'RE NOT PART OF ANY CO-OP. SO IF WE WERE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH REFURBISHMENT, WE WOULD HAVE TO BID THIS PROJECT THROUGH A FORMAL BIDDING PROJECT.

AND THEN JUST A LAST FINAL NOTE IS THAT IF ALL OF THE VENDORS THAT WE REACHED OUT TO WERE ALSO GOING TO UTILIZE SPLASHTACULAR COMPONENTS.

SO EVEN IF WE WERE TO BID THIS PROJECT, WE WOULD STILL END UP WITH A SPLASHTACULAR MANUFACTURED SLIDE AND STAIRCASE.

SO THE NEXT QUESTION WOULD BE, OKAY, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO PAY FOR IT? SO THIS WASN'T SOMETHING THAT WAS PART OF OUR CAPITAL PLAN OR OUR BRICK PROJECTS. SO HOW ARE WE GOING TO PAY FOR IT? AND THAT THE THING THAT WE DO ANNUALLY AS JUST PART OF OUR RECONCILIATION PROCESS IS TO LOOK AT ALL OF OUR EXISTING CAPITAL PROJECTS AND SCRUB FOR ANY REMAINING FUNDS.

SO WE TAKE THOSE REMAINING FUNDS AND WE REALLOCATE THEM TO CURRENT NEEDS TO HELP US AVOIDING ISSUING ADDITIONAL DEBT, AND TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE TAKING OUR AVAILABLE RESOURCES AND UTILIZING THOSE BEFORE MOVING FORWARD WITH ANYTHING ELSE.

SO FOR THIS YEAR, WE ACTUALLY IDENTIFIED A LITTLE OVER $1 MILLION IN PROJECT SAVINGS.

OF THIS, A LITTLE OVER 500,000 HAD ALREADY BEEN ALLOCATED TO THE GMP PACKAGE.

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THIS WAS PRESENTED WHEN WE DID THE GMP TWO TO COUNCIL.

WE STATED THAT WE WOULD BE UTILIZING EXISTING PROJECT FUNDS.

SPECIFICALLY, THIS PROJECT WOULD BE FROM THE BAILEY LAKE AND CHISENHALL PARKING LOT EXPANSION BOND THAT WE ISSUED ON AUGUST 21ST, 2023, AND THE PROJECT SAVINGS FROM THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO FUND THIS.

I DO WANT TO NOTE, THOUGH, IF WE WERE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH REFURBISHMENT RATHER THAN REPLACEMENT, WE WILL NEED TO IDENTIFY ALTERNATIVE FUNDING BECAUSE REFURBISHMENT IS NOT A CAPITAL ITEM, SO WE WOULD NEED TO FIND SOME CASH TO PAY FOR THAT.

SO IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH REPLACEMENT, WE HAVE IDENTIFIED FUNDING AND WE CAN USE SPLASHTACULAR IF WE DON'T, THEN WE'LL IDENTIFY ADDITIONAL FUNDING AND WE WILL FORMALLY BID THE PROJECT.

AND THEN THE FINAL NOTE ON THIS SLIDE IS THE USEFUL LIFE OF THE CURRENT SLIDE EXTENDS THROUGH 2035.

SO I HAVE AN ROI SLIDE ON THE NEXT ONE. WHICH AT THAT POINT THE MANUFACTURER STATES THIS IS A 25 YEAR SLIDE.

YOU'RE GOING TO BE AT END OF LIFE. SO EVEN IF WE DO THE REFURBISHMENT NOW, WE WILL BE PLANNING TO REPLACE IN 2035.

AND SO WE USE THAT PLUS THE 3% ANNUAL COST ESCALATION TO PRESENT AN ROI, WHICH WOULD COST US IF WE WERE TO REPLACE THIS IN 2035, 396,000 VERSUS THE 295 THAT WE HAVE QUOTED TO DO IT TODAY.

SO THIS OUTLINES THE ROI. AS YOU CAN SEE, STARTING IN 2025 THROUGH 2049.

YOU'LL SEE OUR ANNUAL DEBT PAYMENT ON REPLACEMENT WOULD BE $23,120, HAVING A TOTAL COST OF THE PROJECT AT 416 VERSUS REFURBISHMENT, WHICH WOULD HAVE THE UPFRONT CASH CAPITAL THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO PAY IN CASH.

AND THEN STARTING IN 2036, WE WOULD HAVE DEBT PAYMENTS THAT EXTEND BEYOND THAT 2049 TIME FRAME.

BUT WE GAVE YOU A 25 YEAR WINDOW. SO THAT WOULD BE $603,000.

SO YOU SEE THAT COST OF INVESTMENT IS THE $416,000.

THAT WOULD BE TO REPLACE THE STAIR TOWER AND THE SLIDE AND INCLUDE THE DEBT SERVICE.

THE ANNUAL BENEFIT FOR US IS $34,000. THAT'S ABOUT THAT'S 40% OF THE ANNUAL INCOME GENERATED FROM POOL PARTIES.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY DISCOUNTING. IS THAT 40% BECAUSE THE SLIDE IS CLOSED.

OUR LIFE OF THE SLIDE IS 25 YEARS. SO THE ROI FOR REPLACEMENT IS 104% AND FOR REFURBISHMENT IS 40.8.

AND PENDING COUNCIL'S DIRECTION THIS EVENING IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH REPLACEMENT, WE'LL BRING THAT FORWARD ON APRIL 21ST FOR CONTRACT AWARD. AND THEN WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET THOSE MATERIALS ORDERED.

AND IT WILL GO IN CONJUNCTION WITH US CLOSING DOWN THE POOL IN AUGUST.

IF COUNCIL DIRECTS US THIS EVENING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH REFURBISHMENT, WE WILL START THE PROCESS OF FORMALLY BIDDING AND IDENTIFYING FUNDING, AND THAT WILL COME AT A LATER DATE. AND THEN WE WILL BEGIN WORK BASED ON THE PRODUCTION TIMELINE AT THE END OF THAT WHICH COULD POTENTIALLY STILL BE IN THAT AUGUST TIME FRAME.

WE JUST DON'T KNOW THAT AT THIS TIME. SO AT THE TIME, I DO ALSO WANT TO NOTE THAT THE SLIDE WILL REMAIN CLOSED THROUGHOUT THE SUMMER, REGARDLESS OF WHICH DIRECTION WE GO. SO BASED ON ALL OF THE INFORMATION THAT I JUST PRESENTED STAFF IS RECOMMENDING REPLACEMENT OF THE STAIR AND SLIDE STRUCTURE AT THIS TIME. QUESTIONS? ANYBODY? IF THE BIG SLIDE IS HAVING ALL OF THESE ISSUES, HOW WHAT HOW DOES OUR SMALLER PLAY STRUCTURE. LOOK, THERE'S ONE SWIRLY SLIDE AND THEN TWO SMALLER SLIDES.

WHAT IS THE CONDITION OF THOSE? DO THEY COMPARE TO THE BIG SLIDE? IT'S NOT NEARLY ON THE SAME LEVEL. BUT WE WILL IN FULL TRANSPARENCY.

ONE OF THE THINGS WE SAID WAS SCOPE CREEP IS REAL.

AND SO WHEN WE STARTED WITH THE NATATORIUM AND THE REPLASTERING OF THE POOL AND THE REPLACEMENT OF THE SAND FILTERS AND THE DEHUMIDIFICATION SYSTEM, AND NOW THE STAIR AND THE SLIDE, WE SAID, LET'S GO AHEAD AND DO JUST THAT.

AND STAFF WAS ALREADY GATHERING QUOTES TO ADD IT TO THE CAPITAL PLAN FOR A PHASE TWO.

BUT RIGHT NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT HOPEFULLY IDENTIFYING FUNDS TO REPLACE THAT AS WELL AND BRING THAT BACK TO PARK BOARD AND COUNCIL IN MAY AND JUNE SO THAT WE COULD ALSO DO IT IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE YEARS. AND THAT'S NOT INSPECTED THROUGH TML BECAUSE IT'S NOT CONSIDERED AN AMUSEMENT RIDE.

SO IT'S JUST SOMETHING STAFF CURRENTLY MAINTAINS, JUST LIKE WE WOULD ANY OF OUR PLAYGROUNDS, THERE WERE TWO THINGS THAT WERE ALSO IDENTIFIED AS SOMETHING WE WERE GOING TO BE DOING THIS FISCAL YEAR WITHIN OUR OPERATIONAL BUDGET OF REPLACING THE LANDINGS BELOW THOSE SLIDES. BUT TALKING TO C1S AND OUR CONTRACTOR FOR THE INDOOR POOL PLASTER, THEY WOULD RIP THOSE UP AND WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO PUT THEM BACK IN.

SO WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO LIVE THOSE OUT THROUGH AUGUST WHEN WE DO THE FULL REMODEL.

AS FAR AS TRAINING FOR STAFF, HOW DO WE DO THESE? DO WATER PLAY STRUCTURES DIFFER FROM O UR PLAYGROUND PLAY STRUCTURES, LIKE HOW DO WE GET A GET A TRUE 25 YEARS OUT OF A

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25 YEAR SLIDE? I'LL BE TRANSPARENT. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE WILL EVER GET 25 YEARS.

THAT'S OUR GOAL IS TO GET 25 YEARS ON THAT. BUT THAT LIFE EXPECTANCY IS ALSO ON AN OUTDOOR ENVIRONMENT.

AND SO WITH OUR ENVIRONMENT, OUR, HOPE AND OUR GOAL IS THAT THAT DEHUMIDIFICATION SYSTEM AND THE EVACUATOR SYSTEM WILL MITIGATE 50% OF THIS.

AND THEN THE ADDITIONAL MAINTENANCE PROTOCOLS FOR US, ESPECIALLY DOING THOSE RUST PREVENTATIVE COATINGS ON IT, WILL BE THE OTHER ENHANCEMENT THAT WE THINK WILL REALLY HELP WITH THE LONGEVITY OF THESE STRUCTURES, AS WELL AS JUST MAKING SURE WE'RE COMPLYING WITH WHATEVER THE MANUFACTURER STATES OUR MAINTENANCE NEEDS ARE. THAT'S WHAT I WAS WONDERING IS DID WE FOLLOW THROUGH? HAVE WE OVER THESE YEARS THAT WE'VE HAD THIS SLIDE? HAVE WE BEEN CHECKING BACK WITH THEM TO SEE LIKE DO THEY ISSUE ANNUALLY OR EVERY COUPLE OF YEARS? LIKE, HEY, JUST IF YOU HAVE THIS PIECE OF EQUIPMENT, I KNOW, LIKE WHEN YOU OWN A CAR AND THEY'RE LIKE, HEY, YOU OWN THIS AND THIS JUST GOT RECALLED.

YOU KNOW, ARE THEY SENDING CONTINUAL THINGS TO SAY? THIS SHOULD BE ON YOUR RADAR. HOW DO WE KNOW THAT WE'RE MAINTAINING SOMETHING THAT WE OWN TO THE HIGHEST QUALITY, TO ENSURE THAT WE GET THE BEST LIFESPAN OUT OF IT? I THINK IT WOULD TAKE US BEING PROACTIVE ON THAT AND REACHING OUT TO THEM TO SAY, HEY, DO YOU HAVE ANY NEW DESIGN VARIABLES? DO YOU, YOU KNOW, HAVE YOU UPGRADED YOUR MAINTENANCE PROTOCOLS? THEY DON'T CURRENTLY SEND THAT OUT TO US AS ONE OF THEIR CUSTOMERS.

BUT THAT THAT WOULD JUST TAKE OUR STAFF BEING PROACTIVE, REACHING OUT TO THEM, MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE UP TO SPEED ON ANY DESIGN CHANGES.

I MEAN, THE BIG ONE FOR US ON THIS ONE WAS THEY'VE CHANGED THE DESIGN, THE COMPLETE DESIGN OF THE STAIR TREAD.

AND IF WE WOULD HAVE KNOWN THAT, WE PROBABLY WOULD HAVE GOT AHEAD OF IT A FEW YEARS AGO AND REPLACED THOSE. SO WE WEREN'T HAVING SUCH A RUST PROBLEM.

RIGHT. YEAH. BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE I MEAN, I'VE NOTICED THE RUST BECAUSE WE'RE THERE REGULARLY.

THE KIDS SWIM A LOT THERE. AND I THINK IN ALL IN A COUPLE OF YEARS.

WELL, WHAT AUDREY'S ALMOST TEN. SO IN TEN YEARS THAT WE'VE BEEN SWIMMING AND PLAYING THERE, I CAN COUNT ON ONE HAND HOW MANY TIMES I'VE SEEN THE SLIDE OPEN.

SO IT'S I'M VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF REPLACING BECAUSE I DON'T SEE I MEAN, WE TURN AROUND AND HAVE TO REPLACE IT ANYWAY BASED ON ITS LIFE, BUT VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF A MAINTENANCE PLAN SO THAT WE ARE UNDERSTANDING WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY TAKING CARE OF. BECAUSE LIKE ANYTHING, WHEN WE MAKE A PURCHASE, PARTICULARLY WITH PUBLIC FUNDS, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE FOLLOWING ALL THE THINGS THAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO SO THAT WE CAN TAKE THE BEST CARE OF IT AND GIVE IT THE BEST AND LONGEST LIFESPAN THAT WE CAN.

YES, MA'AM. AND THEN ALSO, I'D BE REALLY CURIOUS TO HEAR BACK ON WHAT THAT SMALLER PLAY STRUCTURE LOOKS LIKE, BECAUSE IT GETS A LOT OF LOVE AND IT SITS IN WATER VERSUS A SLIDE THAT'S GETTING RUNOFF FROM THE WATER.

SO OR THE SLIDE STAIRCASE. THE MAINTENANCE PLAN.

I DIDN'T SEE A COST FOR THAT FOR THE ONE YEAR, DID YOU? IT'S $12,155. OKAY. THANK YOU. MY TURN. OKAY.

I COULD TALK ON THIS ALL NIGHT LONG, BUT LUCKILY WE'VE GOT A BASKETBALL GAME TONIGHT.

I KNOW SOMEBODY'S WANTING TO WATCH, SO I'LL CUT IT SHORT.

PART OF OUR RESPONSIBILITY HERE ON THE DAIS IS TO BE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE WITH ACCOUNTABILITY AND BEING FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE.

THE $416,000 IS A LOT BETTER THAN $603,000. SO IT'S OBVIOUS THAT THE BEST WAY TO GO IS TO REPLACE THE TOWER AND THE SLIDE WITH SPLASHTACULAR. AND GET THE MAINTENANCE PROGRAM.

MY CONCERN IS HOW IT GOT HERE IN THIS POSITION.

I DISAGREE WITH THE FACT THAT IT'S ALL DESIGN FAILURE, BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE SAME ISSUE WITH THE SLIDE TOWER BOLTS AND BRACKETS.

YOU HAVE THE SAME ISSUE WITH THE BLUE SLIDE. I'VE SEEN IT.

I'VE SEEN THE PICTURES. THE TMLRIP INSPECTOR HAS ALSO SEEN IT.

AND HE DOCUMENTED IT FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS IN A ROW.

IN 2019, WE HAD A 10% FAILURE RATE, 32%, 16, 40%.

AND THIS YEAR, 24, WE HAD A 53% FAILURE RATE ON THE SCORECARD FROM THE TMLRIP.

MY CONCERN WITH THAT AT 1% FAILURE AND WHERE I'M GOING WITH THIS IS GOING TO BE MAINTENANCE WITH A 1% FAILURE.

THERE'S A SLIGHT RISK IN RIDING THAT SLIDE WITH A 53% FAILURE.

THERE'S AN EXTREME RISK. AND WE SAW IT GROW EVERY YEAR UP TO THAT 53%.

NOW THE INSPECTOR COMES. SAME TIME EVERY YEAR IN JUNE.

WE KNOW HE'S COMING, BUT YET WE CONSISTENTLY HAVE INCREASED FAILURE RATES, INCREASED INSPECTION FAILURES TO THE POINT WHERE NOW WE DON'T HAVE A CERTIFICATE.

WE GOT TO REPLACE THE SLIDE. DID WE HAVE I KNOW WE TALKED A YEAR AND A HALF AGO ABOUT PUTTING A MAINTENANCE PLAN TOGETHER.

DID WE HAVE A MAINTENANCE PLAN FOR THE NATATORIUM? SO THE MAINTENANCE PLAN WAS NOT FORMALLY DOCUMENTED, BUT THERE WAS MAINTENANCE THAT IT WAS THROUGH OUR TEAM THAT TRAINS OUR TEAM.

AND THEN THEY DO THE MAINTENANCE LOGS OF IT. AND THERE'S A THERE'S A CHECKLIST THAT SHOWS WHAT THOSE MAINTENANCE ITEMS ARE.

BUT AS PART OF THIS PROCESS, WE DO NOW HAVE A STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURE FOR MAINTENANCE ON THIS STRUCTURE.

AND THE NATATORIUM IN GENERAL. OKAY, AS PART OF THE ACCOUNTABILITY, ALONG WITH THE FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY FOR US IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A MAINTENANCE

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PLAN. AND WE TALKED ABOUT THIS A YEAR AND A HALF AGO, AND I THOUGHT THERE WAS ONE IN PLACE, BUT OBVIOUSLY THERE WASN'T. BEST PRACTICE, NOT WRITTEN PLAN IS NOT A MAINTENANCE PLAN.

SO GOING FORWARD, I'D LIKE TO PUT A MAINTENANCE PLAN TOGETHER FOR THE NATATORIUM, FOR THE OUTDOOR POOL, SPLASH PAD AND EQUIPMENT ROOM AND PRESENT THIS TO THE CITY MANAGER SO HE'LL UNDERSTAND THAT WE DO HAVE A WRITTEN PLAN, NOT JUST BEST PRACTICE. NOW IN THE NATATORIUM, WE HAVE A LOT OF THINGS TO INSPECT.

WE HAVE A HANDICAP LIFT. DO WE INSPECT THAT? YES, SIR.

OKAY, WE HAVE A PLAN. A WRITTEN PLAN TO INSPECT THAT.

IT SHOULD BE PART OF THE SOP. YES, SIR. OKAY, SO I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO A NEW SYSTEM, AND I APPRECIATE THAT TO DOCUMENT ALL OF THIS AND THE CARDIOGRAPH. SO IT'LL BE DOCUMENTED HR WILL HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY FOR MONITORING THAT AND MAKING SURE THAT THE MAINTENANCE IS DONE.

CORRECT. THEY'LL BE RECEIVING COPIES OF INSPECTIONS.

THE DAILY MAINTENANCE WILL BE STAFF. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

AS LONG AS WE START TAKING CARE OF THIS STUFF AND MAINTAINING IT SO THAT OUR CITIZENS WILL BE SAFE IN THE EQUIPMENT ROOM, SPLASHPAD OUTDOOR POOL AND NATATORIUM. WE NEED A PLAN FOR ALL THAT.

THE OTHER ISSUE IS WE FAIL EVERY YEAR ON THE FLOW METER.

DO WE REQUIRE TO HAVE A FLOW METER ON THAT BY SPLASHTACULAR? WE ACTUALLY WERE NOT REQUIRED. HOWEVER, WE HAVE SINCE THAT INSPECTION ORDERED ONE AND THERE WILL BE ONE INSTALLED.

OKAY. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD REASONS TO HAVE THAT FLOW METER.

AND I GOT A FEELING THAT THE SPLASH BACK WASH BACK FROM THAT FLOW METER, NOT BEING IN THERE AS PART OF THE WATER COMING DOWN THAT SLIDE.

ALSO NOT JUST FROM THE CITIZENS CRAWLING UP THE SLIDE.

SO THAT'LL TAKE CARE OF IT AND HELP MAKE IT LAST A LOT LONGER.

WELL, SINCE I'M NOT GOING TO GO OVER ALL THIS, I'LL JUST PUT IT UP.

I SUGGEST THAT WE GO WITH THE NEW SLIDE, THE NEW TOWER, AND WITH SPLASHTACULAR WITH A MAINTENANCE CONTRACT.

YES, SIR. I WAS GOING TO PIGGYBACK ON THAT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

COUNCIL MEMBER SCOTT. WITH REGARDS TO THE HR ASPECT, THE INTENT IS THERE.

THEY'RE GOING TO BE THE STOPGAP WHEN WE HAVE THIRD PARTY INSPECTIONS COME IN, SAFETY RELATED INSPECTIONS.

SO THERE'S THAT OPPORTUNITY. IF WE HAVE A CONTINUAL FAILURE THAT THAT'S GETTING ELEVATED UP TO ME.

SO THAT'S ONE OF THE SPOT CHECKS WE'RE DOING, NOT JUST IN THE PARKS DEPARTMENT, BUT ACROSS THE CITY. SOMETIMES FAILURES AREN'T ELEVATING TO THE LEVEL THAT I NEED THEM TO, SO I CAN BEGIN TO BECOME AWARE OF ISSUES I THINK WE NEED TO BE FOCUSING ON AS IT RELATES TO MAINTENANCE HERE AND OTHER AREAS.

YOU ALL KNOW ME AND KNOW THAT KIND OF MY APPROACH IS TRY TO TAKE OWNERSHIP AND SAY WE'LL DO BETTER WHEN WE NEED TO DO BETTER.

WE ALWAYS HAVE ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT. AND SO I THINK DOCUMENTATION IS AN AREA ACROSS THE CITY THAT WE NEED TO DO A MUCH BETTER JOB ON.

I THINK CARTOGRAPH IS GOING TO HELP WITH THAT IN TERMS OF BEING ABLE TO HAVE SUPERVISORS AND DIRECTOR LEVEL EMPLOYEES WHO MIGHT NOT GET EXPOSURE TO THIS ON A DAY TO DAY BASIS, HAVE REPORTS AND HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE THINGS ARE AND WHETHER SOMETHING'S TURNING RED OR NOT.

SO I THINK THAT'S GOING TO GO A LONG WAY IN TERMS OF FUTURE MAINTENANCE RELATED ISSUES.

AGAIN, NOT JUST IN PARKS BUT ACROSS THE CITY.

MY INTENTION IS WE'RE ALWAYS GOING TO TRY TO BE GOOD STEWARDS OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS, AND I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS HERE AND MAINTENANCE ABOVE MOST IMPORTANT FOR ME.

THANK YOU TOMMY. MY CONCERN WAS THAT THE ELEVATION OF FAILURES EVERY YEAR OVER YEAR OVER YEAR.

THE APPEARANCE IS THERE JUST TO GET THE STICKER AND NOT DO THE MAINTENANCE.

MY CONCERN WOULD BE IF IT WASN'T A CLASS B AMUSEMENT RIDE AND REQUIRED INSPECTION FROM THE STATE.

AND HAD THE INSPECTOR COME OUT THERE, WHAT KIND OF CONDITION WOULD IT BE IN NOW? WHERE WOULD WE BE? SO THANK GOODNESS WE DID HAVE INSPECTION REQUIRED BY THE STATE.

YES, SIR. SO I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED ON THIS BECAUSE IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE A 25 YEAR SLIDE. AND WE'RE AT YEAR WHAT 15 IS IT 2010 WHEN IT WAS INSTALLED.

AND I THINK IT'S A COMBINATION OF TWO THINGS. ONE, LACK OF MAINTENANCE. WELL IT'S THREE THINGS. LACK OF MAINTENANCE. THE ISSUES WITH THE HAVING IT INDOORS AND BEING WE'VE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE CHLORINE SMELL AND ALL THAT.

IT'S PROBABLY I'M SURE IT'S DOING THINGS AND I THINK IT'S THERE'S A DESIGN FLAW AS WELL WITH THE, WITH THE STRUCTURE POSSIBLY. SO DOES IT MAKE SENSE? I MEAN, YES, I WOULD AGREE WITH REPLACING IT, BUT IF WE REPLACE IT WITH THE SAME EXACT THING, SAME THING, THEN IN 15 YEARS ARE WE GOING TO BE COMING BACK AND DOING IT REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE MAINTENANCE IS OR REGARDLESS OF THE MAINTENANCE THAT WE'RE DOING? SO THAT CONCERNS ME. AND THEN LOOKING AT THE, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT HONESTLY,

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THIS NEEDS TO BE A TEN YEAR PAYOUT, IN MY OPINION.

AND IF INSTEAD OF IT BEING 23,000, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE BOUND BY THE TERMS OF THE BONDS TO ON THE AMORTIZATION SCHEDULE, BUT CAN WE HAVE AN ACCELERATED DEPRECIATION SCHEDULE WHERE WE'RE WRITING IT OFF OVER TEN YEARS, AND THEN AT THE END OF TEN YEARS, WE'VE GOT THE MONEY SET ASIDE ALREADY TO PAY THE BONDS OFF.

SO INSTEAD OF IT BEING $23,000, YOU'D ADD ABOUT $15,000 TO THAT NUMBER.

AND BECAUSE I DON'T THINK AND MAYOR PRO TEM BROUGHT THIS UP A LONG TIME AGO WHEN I FIRST GOT ON COUNCIL.

BUT YOU DON'T WANT TO PASS A BOND AND THEN HAVE THE USEFUL LIFE BE THE END OF THE BOND, BECAUSE NOW YOU'RE JUST FUNDING, YOU KNOW, THE STRUCTURE. YOU WANT TO GET SOME FREE MONEY OUT, FREE TIME OUT OF IT, I THINK.

GO AHEAD. YEAH. SO THE SHORT ANSWER IS WE CAN'T DO IT.

WE DIDN'T FORECAST IT THAT WAY. I'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH A HANDFUL OF YOU.

ANYWAY, AS WE GO THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS THIS YEAR, AS PARKS HAS BECOME MORE ROBUST, THEY'VE LOOKED AT REPLACEMENT SCHEDULES THAT ARE NOT 20 YEARS FOR EVERY ASSET. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO START LOOKING AT IS ON IF THERE'S A PARK STRUCTURE WHERE WE ANTICIPATE THAT WE'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY REPLACE IT AND A IN A TEN YEAR PERIOD AS OPPOSED TO 20. AND WE NEED TO CONSIDER THE AMORTIZATION SCHEDULE.

AND YOU CAN DO THAT A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT WAYS. BUT ULTIMATELY, IF IT'S INTENDED TO BE REPLACED IN TEN YEARS, THEN YOU MAY NEED TO AMORTIZE THE 20 YEAR BOND OVER A TEN YEAR PERIOD.

SO IT'S BEING PAID OFF. THE FLIP SIDE OF THAT IS YOU MAY BE PAYING A DEBT SERVICE THAT IS GREATER THAN WHAT YOU HAVE TO PAY IF THAT PROJECT ENDS UP BEING A 15 YEAR LIFE CYCLE. SO THOSE ARE THINGS I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT AND CONSIDER.

AND I'M GOING A LONG WAY OF REALLY SAYING IT ULTIMATELY BOILS DOWN TO THE CAPACITY OF THE 4B.

IF THAT'S A PRIORITY, WE CAN ABSOLUTELY DO IT.

BUT WE'VE NOT FORECASTED THAT. OKAY. I MEAN, WOULD IT HURT? I MEAN, DO WE HAVE TO USE THIS DESIGN? I MEAN, WOULD IT HURT TO, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW IT GOES OUT THE WINDOW.

SO WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING BY, IT LOOKS NEAT. BUT IS THERE PROBLEMS WITH THE WINDOWS LEAKING RIGHT NOW? I MEAN, DO WE HAVE ISSUES WITH THAT WITH IT COMING BACK IN? NOT PROFOUND. OBVIOUSLY 15 YEARS, IT HAS TO BE RECAULKED AND RESEALED FROM TIME TO TIME, BUT IT'S STANDARD MAINTENANCE.

OKAY. OKAY. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S, YOU KNOW, BUT THEN IF YOU TRY TO REROUTE IT INSIDE, THAT THE WHOLE THING INSIDE, THEN NOW YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE STRUCTURAL ISSUES BECAUSE YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO DRILL A HOLE IN THE GROUND AND STUFF. SO IT COULD JUST BE. BUT I DON'T KNOW, I'M KIND OF JUST BUT IT'S OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT THE DESIGN ISSUES HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED.

SO THE NEW ONE THAT THEY WILL BE PUTTING IN IS NOT GOING TO HAVE THEY THAT'S WHAT SHE MENTIONED EARLIER, IS THAT THEY IDENTIFIED SOME THINGS AND THEY'VE SINCE FIXED IT.

AND THAT'S THE UPDATED VERSION IS WHAT WE WOULD RECEIVE.

YEAH. BUT WE'LL ALSO HAVE A MAINTENANCE PLAN AND FIGURE OUT FOLLOWING A LOT CLOSER WOULD HOPEFULLY BE MY CASE OF LIKE HOW ARE WE SUPPOSED TO BE TAKING CARE OF THIS? ARE THESE THINGS THAT WE'RE SEEING OR COMING ACROSS? IS THIS WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE SEEING? IS THIS NORMAL WEAR AND TEAR? IS IT NOT HAVING A BETTER GAUGE AND KEEPING UP? AND I RECOGNIZE THERE'S JUST AS WAS MENTIONED, THERE'S SO MANY DIFFERENT THINGS IN THE NATATORIUM ALONE THAT HAVE TO BE LOOKED AT AND INSPECTED AND KEPT UP WITH, AND IT'S JUST AND I FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, IT'S REALLY EMPOWERING STAFF AND BUILDING THEM UP BECAUSE THAT'S A LOT OF RESPONSIBILITY. BUT IT'S UNDERSTANDING LIKE YOU'VE BEEN GIVEN.

IT'S I KEEP THINKING ABOUT LIKE WHEN I DRIVE BY THE FIRE STATIONS AND I SEE THEM OUT THERE LIKE TESTING ALL THE STUFF ON THE TRUCKS AND THEY'RE CLEANING IT AND THAT'S THAT IS THEY UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S THEIR PIECE OF EQUIPMENT THAT THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR KEEPING UP WITH, AND THAT THEY'VE GOT TO MAKE THAT BABY LAST, BECAUSE WE CAN'T TURN AROUND IN TEN MORE YEARS AND JUST BUY ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE TRUCKS.

THAT'S WHAT I'M PICTURING IN MY HEAD, IS LIKE TRULY GETTING AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT OUR RESPONSIBILITIES ARE TO WHATEVER PIECE OF EQUIPMENT WE PURCHASE, WHATEVER THING WE PUT IN OUR WHEELHOUSE OF THE CITY, WHATEVER DEPARTMENT IS TAKING OWNERSHIP OF THAT AND UNDERSTANDING THE RESPONSIBILITIES TO IT AND TO THE TAXPAYERS, BECAUSE WHEN WE'RE USING THEIR FUNDS, WE GOT TO MAKE SURE WE GET THE MOST OUT OF IT THAT WE POSSIBLY CAN.

I THINK THE OTHER MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL HAVE EXPRESSED ALL OF MY CONCERNS, BUT I THINK IT'S HIGHLY IMPORTANT TO BE COMPLETELY TRANSPARENT.

AND THE SECTION OF SLIDE THAT COUNCIL MEMBER RUSSELL MENTIONED THAT GOES OUTSIDE THE BUILDING AND COMES BACK IN, THAT THING OUGHT TO BE COMPLETELY TRANSPARENT, TOO.

I CAN'T THINK OF ANYTHING COOLER THAN GOING DOWN THIS RED TUBE AND SUDDENLY HURTLING OUT INTO SPACE OR HAVING THE SENSATION OF DOING SO.

SO IF YOU CAN REDESIGN IT WITH A COUPLE OF TRANSPARENT SECTIONS, I THINK IT'D BE A HUGE IMPROVEMENT.

AFTER ALL, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING THAT'S FUN, RIGHT? RIGHT. I AGREE. AND I DO AND I DO HAVE I'M ENCOURAGED BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WE'RE REPLACING SO MANY THINGS. WE'RE GOING TO REDO THE POOL, WE'RE GETTING THE NEW DEHUMIDIFIER, WE GOT A NEW SAND FILTER AND ALL THAT STUFF. AND THEN HAVING THE ABILITY TO PULL OUT EXCESS CHLORINE AND STUFF THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT OR THE GASES.

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SO I THINK THAT WILL HELP. BUT BUT SO I WOULD, I WOULD VOTE FOR REPLACEMENT OF THE WHOLE THING.

ADD THE TRANSPARENT SECTIONS. I THINK THAT'D BE NEAT. AND BUT I WOULD LIKE.

YOU KNOW IT IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO IT THE LIFE AT LEAST 15.

I WOULD PREFER TEN. BUT I'D LIKE TO HAVE IT WRITTEN OFF BEFORE, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE BONDS ARE CALLABLE, JUST PAY IT OFF. UNDERSTOOD. OKAY. YOU GOT WHAT YOU NEED.

WOULD THAT BE LIKE REFUNDING, KEEPING AN EYE ON IT WHEN IT'S CALLABLE AND REFUNDING IT? IT WOULDN'T EVEN BE REFUNDED. YOU JUST. YOU JUST PAY IT OFF. I MEAN, WE'D CALL IT, BUT WE WOULD HAVE ALREADY HAD THE MONEY SET ASIDE. IT'D BE GONE. IT WOULD COMPLETELY FOR THAT, FOR THAT PORTION, FOR THAT PORTION OF THE BOND. CORRECT.

YEAH. BECAUSE THERE'S OTHER STUFF ATTACHED TO THAT AS WELL.

YEAH. SO THIS WOULD BE PART OF A 20 YEAR BOND ISSUANCE.

AND SO YOU'D ONLY BE PAYING OFF A PORTION OF THAT, AND YOU CAN ONLY DO IT AFTER TEN YEARS.

YEAH. SO IT'D BE WHAT'S LEFT ON THIS. ANYONE ELSE? I'M GOOD WITH IT. DOING THE REPLACEMENT ON IT AS WELL.

I WOULD LIKE TO SAY, YOU KNOW, WHO WOULD BE TRAINED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S STAYING.

IT'S BEING MAINTAINED APPROPRIATELY. SURE. YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES WHEN, YOU KNOW, THE POOL IS MONITORED AND LIFEGUARDS AND SO ON, THEY ARE MUCH YOUNGER. WE PUT A LOT OF RESPONSIBILITY ON THEM, BUT THIS IS A HUGE RESPONSIBILITY.

MAYBE IT IS IN THE MANAGEMENT LEVEL THAT NEEDS TO BE MAINTAINED INSTEAD OF SOME OF THE YOUNGER STAFF. SURE. SO CURRENTLY WE HAVE ONE POSITION THAT IS OVER INDOOR, OUTDOOR AND THE SPLASH PAD.

IT'S AN AQUATICS COORDINATOR. THEY HAVE LEAD LIFEGUARDS THAT HELP THEM WITH THE MAINTENANCE OF THE COMPLEX.

THE POOL IS CLOSED ON MONDAYS FOR MAINTENANCE.

MONDAYS, WHICH IS WHEN WE IN-SERVICE OUR TEAMS AS WELL AS DO GENERAL MAINTENANCE ITEMS ON THE POOL.

BUT YOU ARE CORRECT, COUNCIL MEMBER BOEDEKER THAT WE HAVE LIFEGUARDS THAT ARE VERY YOUNG, THAT WE'RE RELYING ON TO DO MAINTENANCE OF ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT AREAS. OUR AQUATICS COORDINATOR IS OVERSEEING THAT.

HE IS SUPPORTED INDIRECTLY BY OUR MAINTENANCE SUPERVISOR OVER THE ENTIRE COMPLEX.

BUT BUT THAT IS WHO YOU HAVE DOING THIS MAINTENANCE ON A DAY TO DAY BASIS.

AND THEN OUR REC MANAGER WHO IS OVER THE BRICK SPECIFICALLY, IS ALSO A CPO AND A LIFEGUARD AND AND CAN STEP IN IF THERE'S ANY TROUBLESHOOTING NEEDS.

BUT THE DAY TO DAY DOES GO THROUGH THAT AQUATICS COORDINATOR ROLE.

ANYBODY ELSE? I AGREE WITH REPLACING IT, AND I LIKE THE IDEA OF THE TRANSPARENT TUBES.

THAT COULD BE FUN. ANYBODY ELSE. WE'LL STOP SHORT OF PROMISING THOSE, OKAY, BUT WE'LL DO OUR BEST.

YES, SIR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU JEN. NEXT ITEM IS 7C.

[7.C. Receive a report and provide possible recommendations regarding the future construction of Fire Station 4. (Staff Contact: Casey Davis, Fire Chief)]

RECEIVE A REPORT. PROVIDE POSSIBLE RECOMMENDATIONS REGARDING THE FUTURE CONSTRUCTION OF FIRE STATION FOUR.

STAFF CONTACT IS CASEY DAVIS, FIRE CHIEF. MAYOR.

COUNCIL. BEFORE CHIEF DAVIS GETS UP AND SPEAKS I DO WANT TO LET YOU KNOW WE HAVE BEEN ASKED TO BY A COUNCIL MEMBER TO SUPPLEMENT THE PRESENTATION WITH SOME ADDITIONAL SLIDES, NOT LESS SLIDES, ADDITIONAL SLIDES. SO RELATED TO FINANCES.

SO WE'VE PUT THAT TOWARD THE END OF THE PRESENTATION AND WE'LL GO THROUGH THIS. I DO ALSO WANT TO TAKE FULL ACCOUNTABILITY FOR THE LEVEL OF DETAIL IN THIS PRESENTATION THAT'S ON ME. SO DON'T BLAME CHIEF DAVIS. I WILL SAY THE INTENT HERE WAS TO TRY TO PROVIDE YOU GUYS WITH A LOT OF INFORMATION.

SOME OF YOU HAVE SEEN THIS MULTIPLE TIMES. OTHER OF YOU, IT MAY BE YOUR FIRST TIME IN TIME SEEING IT, SO WE WANTED IT IN THE PRESENTATION. AS CHIEF DAVIS GOES THROUGH MANY OF THOSE SLIDES, WE WILL LIKELY GO THROUGH AT A VERY HIGH LEVEL, CURSORY LEVEL, OR MAYBE NOT AT ALL. IF THERE'S DETAIL IN WHICH YOU WANT US TO GO OVER THAT WE'VE SKIPPED OVER, PLEASE LET US KNOW. I DO WANT TO TRY TO START WITH THE END IN MIND.

WE UNDERSTAND THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION. THESE ARE NOT EASY DECISIONS AND THESE ARE BIG TICKET ITEMS. WHILE WE WOULD CERTAINLY TAKE FEEDBACK AND CLEAR DIRECTION THIS EVENING, WE ALSO UNDERSTAND WE'RE VERY EARLY IN THE BUDGET PROCESS.

AND SO WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO HAVE SPECIFIC FEEDBACK TONIGHT.

IT'S MORE ABOUT EDUCATING YOU AS WE GO THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS.

SO WE'LL TAKE WHAT FEEDBACK WE CAN. BUT WE ANTICIPATE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MULTIPLE CONVERSATIONS AS WE GO THROUGH THE PROCESS.

AND YOU LOOK AT YOUR CIP AND YOU LOOK AT YOUR OPERATING BUDGET.

BUT WITH THAT CHIEF DAVIS.

ECHO CITY MANAGER LUDWIG'S COMMENTS. I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH SOME OF THIS QUICKLY.