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I'M GOING TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER AT 5:35.
[1. CALL TO ORDER]
TONIGHT WE HAVE DANNY ANDREWS WITH THE ADULT DIRECTOR OF THE FIRST BAPTIST CHURCH.WE'LL BE DOING OUR INVOCATION. WOULD EVERYBODY PLEASE STAND FOR OUR INVOCATION AND ALSO OUR PLEDGES? LET'S PRAY. HEAVENLY FATHER, ON THIS COLD JANUARY EVENING, THE HEARTS OF ALL BURLESON CITIZENS SHOULD BE WARMED BY THE KNOWLEDGE THAT WE HAVE MANY DEDICATED PEOPLE SERVING AND WORKING ON OUR BEHALF FOR THE BEST INTEREST OF OUR GREAT COMMUNITY.
WE ESPECIALLY ASK YOUR BLESSING ON MAYOR CHRIS FLETCHER, COUNCIL MEMBERS VICTORIA JOHNSON, PHIL ANDERSON, ALEXA BOEDEKER, LARRY SCOTT, DAN MCCLENDON AND ADAM RUSSELL, AND CITY MANAGER TERRY LUDWIG AND THEIR FAMILIES.
PLEASE GIVE THEM LISTENING EARS, COMPASSIONATE HEARTS, AND TOUGH SKINS.
WE ALSO ASK YOUR BLESSING ON ALL CITIZENS WHO VOLUNTEER ON COMMITTEES AND CARRY OUT FUNCTIONS THAT HELP MAKE BURLESON A GREAT PLACE TO LIVE, WORK, AND RAISE A FAMILY. AND WE ASK YOUR BLESSING ON THE MORE THAN 400 EMPLOYEES OF THE CITY OF BURLESON THAT YOU KEEP THEM SAFE FROM HARM, ESPECIALLY WHEN THESE DAYS ARE SO COLD AND WAY TOO SOON.
VERY HOT. LORD, THANK YOU THAT THIS IS A CITY OF FAITH SERVED BY A PEOPLE OF FAITH.
OF ALLEGIANCE] GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. THAT BRINGS US TO SECTION TWO PUBLIC
[2.B. Presentations]
PRESENTATIONS. TWO A IS PROCLAMATIONS. WE HAVE NO PROCLAMATIONS THIS EVENING.TWO B, FIRST PRESENTATION IS THE ADOPTABLE SHELTER PET.
THE STAFF PRESENTER THIS EVENING IS DEANNA PHILLIPS, DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY SERVICES.
THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. ONE OF MY FAVORITE THINGS TO PRESENT, AND I HOPE YOURS TOO, IS OUR FEATURED ADOPTABLE PET OF THE QUARTER.
ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICER SHELBY WELCH HAS BROUGHT DAKOTA TO BE OUR FEATURED PET.
DAKOTA IS A FOUR YEAR OLD LABRADOR RETRIEVER MIX.
SHE HAS A HEART OF GOLD. SHE OBVIOUSLY KNOWS SOME TRICKS.
SO DESPITE THIS DIFFICULT SITUATION, SHE REMAINS A HAPPY AND LOVING DOG.
AND SO SHE IS LOOKING FOR A SECOND CHANCE WITH HER FOREVER FAMILY.
THE SHELTER IS CURRENTLY AT CAPACITY FOR DOGS, SO HER ADOPTION FEE IS WAIVED AND THAT INCLUDES SHOTS, MICROCHIPPING AND HEARTWORM TESTING. SO IF YOU'RE LOOKING TO ADOPT, WE ENCOURAGE YOU TO MAKE BURLESON ANIMAL SHELTER YOUR FIRST STOP.
AND IF WE COULD HAVE COUNCIL COME DOWN AND TAKE A PICTURE WITH MISS DAKOTA AND OFFICER WELSH.
UPDATE FROM THE BURLESON CHARACTER COUNCIL AND NOTIFICATION OF THEIR UPCOMING ANNUAL LUNCHEON.
MR. DAVID BROWN WILL BE PRESENTING THIS EVENING.
GOOD EVENING COUNCIL. MY NAME IS DAVID BROWN.
I GET TO SERVE AS OUR DIRECTOR OF COUNSELING SERVICES FOR THE BURLESON INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT.
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JUST WANTED TO KIND OF GIVE SOME HIGHLIGHTS FOR THE CHARACTER COUNCIL.YOU KNOW, FOR OVER 20 YEARS IT HAS BEEN PUT TOGETHER BY FOUR ENTITIES THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, THE CITY, AND THE MINISTERIAL ALLIANCE HERE IN BURLESON.
ONE OF THE STRENGTHS OF THE COUNCIL, I BELIEVE, IS BEING ABLE TO RECOGNIZE STUDENTS AND CITIZENS ALIKE WHO EXEMPLIFY FOUR PARTICULAR TRAITS KINDNESS, INTEGRITY, ACCOUNTABILITY, AND COURTESY.
THE WAY WE DO THAT IS EACH YEAR, OUR COUNSELORS ARE TASKED TO FIND STUDENTS AT EACH OF THEIR CAMPUS WHO REPRESENT ONE OR MORE OF THOSE CHARACTER TRAITS. AND THEN IN THE SPRING OF THE YEAR, WE WILL HOST A LUNCHEON THAT IS COMING UP.
THIS YEAR ON FEBRUARY 27TH AT 1130, WILL BE HOSTED AT THE FIRST BAPTIST CHURCH IN BURLESON HERE, WHERE WE WILL HAVE OVER 300 PEOPLE COME AND HONOR THESE STUDENTS.
IN ADDITION TO THE STUDENTS, WE ALSO RECOGNIZE CITIZENS WITH THE BYRON BLACK CHARACTER AWARD FOR A COMMUNITY MEMBER OF EXCEPTIONAL CHARACTER, AS WELL AS STUDENTS, AND OUR SPECIAL EDUCATION PROGRAM WITH THE JOHN MARK STALLINGS AWARD DEMONSTRATING OUTSTANDING CHARACTER.
SO WE JUST WANTED TO KIND OF HIGHLIGHT THAT. MENTION THAT TO YOU GUYS, LET YOU KNOW THAT WE ARE EXCITED ABOUT HONORING OUR STUDENTS AND OUR CITIZENS HERE IN THE CITY OF BURLESON, ALONG WITH YOU ALL AND OUR OTHER ENTITIES.
THIS LUNCHEON WOULDN'T BE POSSIBLE WITHOUT OUR TREMENDOUS COMMUNITY SUPPORTERS. SO I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE CHARACTER COUNCIL AS WELL. I HAVE THE GREAT PLEASURE OF SERVING AS VICE CHAIR, AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A PLUG THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY SEEKING SPONSORS FOR THIS LUNCHEON.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM TWO C COMMUNITY INTEREST ITEMS.
[2.C. Community Interest Items]
I HAVE ONE I'D LIKE TO SAY AT THE LAST MEETING WE HAD, THE CITY COUNCIL HEARD THE REPORTS ON THE TRASH SERVICE FOR THE CITY AND SEVERAL OF THE MEMBERS, I'D SAY SEVERAL. VERY MANY MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY HAVE RESPONDED BACK TO THE COUNCIL ABOUT OUR DISCUSSION AND OUR DIRECTION THAT WE GAVE TO STAFF ON THAT MATTER.I WANTED TO LET YOU ALL KNOW I HAVE PERSONALLY RESPONDED TO A NUMBER OF THOSE WITH INFORMATION THAT COUNCIL MEMBER RUSSELL AND I, AND PROBABLY SOME OF THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS WANT TO LOOK AT THAT AGAIN.
SO WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT IT AGAIN. IF ANYONE HAPPENED TO COME HERE TONIGHT TO TALK TO THE COUNCIL ABOUT THAT, I'LL JUST SAY WE CAN'T ACTUALLY HAVE A DIALOG WITH YOU ABOUT IT BECAUSE IT'S NOT POSTED ON THE AGENDA FOR TONIGHT'S MEETING.
BUT WE HAVE HEARD YOUR VOICES. WE ARE LISTENING.
WE HAVEN'T LOST OUR MINDS OR OUR EARS. WE KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT OF DISCUSSION IN THE COMMUNITY ABOUT IT, SO IT WILL BE REVISITED. I WANT TO PERSONALLY EXCUSE ME, I WANT TO PERSONALLY THANK RYAN AND CARLOS. I GOT THEM UP AT FOUR IN THE MORNING THE OTHER DAY.
THEY'RE OUR FIREMEN. OUR EMT BROUGHT THE AMBULANCE OUT AND DID A GREAT JOB.
AND I KNOW CARLOS IS VERY YOUNG, NEW ON THE STAFF, GOT THE HECK SCARED OUT OF HIM, PROBABLY, BUT HE DID A FANTASTIC JOB. I JUST WANT TO THANK THEM BOTH.
TODAY WE HAD A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO WELCOME FOUR NEW OFFICERS INTO OUR BURLESON PD FAMILY.
SO WELCOME TO THOSE WHO RECEIVED THEIR BADGES TODAY.
AND WE'RE JUST PRIVILEGED THAT THEY CHOSE TO SERVE IN BURLESON.
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LAST WEEK, WE ALSO HAD THE GREAT PRIVILEGE OF RECOGNIZING SIX OPERATORS FROM OUR PUBLIC SAFETY COMMUNICATIONS 911 OPERATIONS. SO SIX INDIVIDUALS RECEIVED PROMOTIONS.AND SO THAT REALLY SPEAKS TO THE AMAZING THINGS THAT THAT DEPARTMENT IS DOING AND ALL OF OUR PUBLIC SAFETY, THE ENTIRETY OF ITS TEAM, PD FIRE AND OUR AWESOME COMMUNICATIONS.
SO THANK YOU AND CONGRATS TO THOSE WHO RECEIVED THOSE RECOGNITIONS.
I ALSO HAVE ONE OTHER EVENT THAT IS COMING UP.
YOU'VE HEARD A NUMBER OF US SPEAK ABOUT THE COUNTY MASTER THOROUGHFARE PLAN AND THE FINAL.
SO THAT IS MONDAY FROM 830 UNTIL 1030 AT THE COURTHOUSE IN CLEBURNE, IN THE BASEMENT.
SO THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE POSTER BOARDS UP AND ALL THE FINAL COLLECTION OF INFORMATION FROM THE ENTIRETY OF THE LAST YEAR, YEAR AND A HALF. AND YOU CAN WEIGH IN FOR THE FINAL TIME BEFORE THEY PRESENT THAT AND PASS THAT AT COMMISSIONERS COURT NEXT MONTH.
SO IF YOU'RE AVAILABLE TO ATTEND THAT MEETING, WE'D LOVE TO HEAR YOUR THOUGHTS AND INPUT.
THEY HELP US OUT A LOT AT LEGISLATION WHEN THERE IS BILLS COMING UP THAT'S DETRIMENTAL TO THE CITY.
SO IT WAS VERY IMPORTANT. WE HAVE A NEW PRESIDENT OF THE REGION EIGHT, WHICH IS EDDIE RODRIGUEZ.
HE'S A MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL OF CITY OF GRANBURY.
AND ALSO, WE'RE GOING TO BEGINNING THE SECOND ANNUAL BURLESON 101 CIVIC ACADEMY.
WE HAVE THE FIRST ONE WE HAD 20 SOME ODD. HOW MANY WAS IN THE FIRST ONE IT WAS LIKE 22.
EVERY ONE OF THEM THOUGHT IT WAS THE GREATEST THING GOING AND SOMEONE WAS GOING TO COME BACK.
SO IF YOU WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT OUR CITY DOES, IT'S GREAT INFORMATION.
TOMMY WILL HEAD IT UP. I THINK YOU HEADED UP WITH THE CITY SECRETARY.
OH, THE CITY SECRETARY. OKAY. SORRY. ANYWAY, THIS TEAM IS GOING TO TAKE CARE OF IT, BUT IT'S VERY INFORMATIVE AND I REALLY, I REALLY THINK IT'S ONE OF THE BEST THINGS YOU CAN DO TO UNDERSTAND WHAT CITY GOVERNMENT IS ALL ABOUT.
SO HERE WE GO. SO THAT BRINGS US TO SECTION THREE CHANGES TO THE
[3. CHANGES TO POSTED AGENDA]
POSTED AGENDA. THREE A IS ITEMS TO BE CONTINUED OR WITHDRAWN.ITEMS TO BE ADDED TO THE CONSENT AGENDA BY THE CITY COUNCIL.
THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. THAT BRINGS US TO SECTION FOUR CITIZEN'S APPEARANCE.
[4. CITIZENS APPEARANCES]
EACH PERSON IN ATTENDANCE WHO DESIRES TO SPEAK TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON AN ITEM NOT POSTED ON THE AGENDA SHALL SPEAK DURING THIS SECTION.EACH SPEAKER WILL BE ALLOWED THREE MINUTES. EACH PERSON IN ATTENDANCE WHO DESIRES TO SPEAK TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON AN ITEM POSTED ON THE AGENDA SHALL SPEAK WHEN THAT ITEM IS CALLED FORWARD FOR CONSIDERATION. AT THIS TIME, I DO HAVE SOME SPEAKER CARDS FOR CITIZENS.
APPEARANCE. THE FIRST SPEAKER CARD IS MR. LONNIE FREEMAN.
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SO BE AWARE. HELLO. MY NAME IS LONNIE FREEMAN AND I LIVE AT 604 DANIEL.I WANT TO CONGRATULATE PRESIDENT TRUMP ON HIS VICTORY.
ALSO, I WANT TO COMMEND THE BURLESON POLICE DEPARTMENT.
IT DOES NOT GO UNNOTICED. WEEKLY TRASH COLLECTIONS.
I KNOW YOU MENTIONED THAT EARLIER. I'M IN FAVOR OF TWICE A WEEK, LIKE IT'S BEEN.
I WOULD LIKE TO REPEAT THEM AGAIN, AND HOPEFULLY YOU HAVE SOME ANSWERS.
ABOUT THESE. IN SEPTEMBER 2024, THE STATE ISSUED A SIX MONTH EMERGENCY CLOSURE ORDERS FOR TOP EIGHT MASSAGE AND BEST MASSAGE HERE IN TOWN BECAUSE OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING.
WHAT CITY AND OR POLICE PROCEDURES ARE BEING ENACTED TO PREVENT THESE HIDEOUS CRIMES FROM HAPPENING IN OUR CITY AGAIN? NUMBER TWO FLUORIDE IN OUR CITY PROVIDED WATER.
THERE ARE MANY RESEARCH CASES SHOWING THAT FLUORIDE IS A MAJOR CAUSE OF ALZHEIMER'S DISEASE.
EXIT FROM OLD TOWN. THANKS, ALEX, WHO'S NOT HERE FOR REACHING OUT TO ME AND THE OTHER CITY STAFF.
I DIDN'T GET TO RETURN EVERYONE'S MESSAGES, BUT I APPRECIATE THEM REACHING OUT.
IF THIS IS STILL GOING ON, PLEASE PUT A STOP TO THIS PRACTICE IMMEDIATELY.
WE AS CITIZENS OF BURLESON DESERVE BETTER. IN FACT, IF YOU SOLD THE LARGEST PARCEL OF THE CITY OWNED LAND THAT YOU CURRENTLY OWN, I BET THAT WOULD GO A LONG WAY LONG WAY TOWARDS HELPING REMOVE FLUORIDE OUT OF OUR CITY WATER SUPPLY.
YOU SHOULD GO AHEAD AND DO IT BEFORE RFK JR MAKES IT A NATIONAL MANDATE.
AND LASTLY, PLEASE ADOPT A CITY ORDINANCE TO PROHIBIT BIOLOGICAL MALES FROM USING RESTROOMS, LOCKER ROOMS FOR FEMALES, AND VICE VERSA. PLANET FITNESS ALLOWS THIS, AND HAS HAD MANY WOMEN HARMED BECAUSE OF THE NATIONAL CORPORATE POLICY OF THEIRS. WE WANT TO KEEP OUR WOMEN SAFE. AND YESTERDAY, PRESIDENT TRUMP ISSUED AN EXECUTIVE ORDER NAMING THERE ARE ONLY TWO GENDERS, MALE AND FEMALE. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU.
THE NEXT SPEAKER CARD I HAVE IS MR. PHILIP SANDERS.
HELLO, MR. MAYOR. COUNCIL. MY NAME IS PHILIP SANDERS.
I LIVE AT 900 WARBLER COURT, BURLESON, TEXAS.
Y'ALL GET YOUR WATER FROM FORT WORTH? I THINK SO, YOU MIGHT CHECK INTO THAT.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOUR MICS DON'T. HANG ON JUST A SECOND.
THERE YOU GO. OH, WELL. THANK YOU. SO I'M ALSO SPEAKING ON THE TRASH ISSUE.
I SPOKE LAST TIME, AND I WILL CONTINUE TO SPEAK ON IT UNTIL THE VOTE COMES THROUGH.
AND I HOPE THAT IT'S FAVORABLE FOR THE CITIZENS.
SOME OF MY NOTES. I'LL SKIP THROUGH THIS, SO SEE IF YOU CAN FOLLOW ME.
I'M BEING TOLD THAT THE 95 GALLON CONTAINER CAN HOLD A LOT MORE TRASH BAGS THAN YOU THINK.
IF THE ORDINANCE STAYS THE SAME. AND IF YOU COULD GET FIVE BAGS INTO THE 95 GALLON CONTAINER, THAT WOULD WEIGH A LOT. THAT WOULD BE A WEIGHT OF NOT TO EXCEED 175 POUNDS.
AS THIS HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP, HAS THERE BEEN ANY THOUGHT BEHIND THIS? THE CURRENT ORDINANCE IS TEN BAGS PER VISIT, NOT TO EXCEED 350 POUNDS AT TEN BAGS, TWO TIMES A WEEK, AT 750 POUNDS UP TO 20 BAGS. THIS IS A REDUCTION ON THE BACKS OF THE TAXPAYERS, FROM 700 POUNDS PER WEEK, DOWN TO APPROXIMATELY 175 PER WEEK, A DIFFERENCE OF 525 POUNDS OR POSSIBLE LOSS DUE TO THE NEW 950 GALLON,
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95 GALLON CONTAINER. ONLY ONE TIME PER WEEK IN THE CITY'S QUESTION AND ANSWER FLIER ON PAGE ONE, NUMBER SIX, TOWARDS THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE, IT CLAIMS THE 95 GALLON CONTAINER WILL HOLD 713 GALLON TRASH BAGS.IF YOU GO STRICTLY BY THOSE NUMBERS, CALCULATE USING GALLONS CAPACITY.
THE MATH SHOWS 7.3 BAGS WOULD GO INTO 195 GALLON.
INTO A 95 GALLON CONTAINER IS SOMEWHAT AWKWARD, AWKWARDLY SQUARE, NOT ROUND IN THE TRASH BAGS WHEN THEY'RE FULL ARE MORE ROUND. SO I SERIOUSLY DOUBT YOU'D GET MORE. GET THE 7.3 BAGS STUFFED IN THERE AND BE ABLE TO CLOSE THE LID AS REQUIRED BY THE ORDINANCE.
82-84C. HYPOTHETICALLY, IF YOU COULD SQUEEZE 7.3 BAGS AT 13 GALLONS PER BAG IN 195 GALLON CONTAINER, YOU WOULD STILL BE LOSING 2.7 BAGS OF TRASH CAPACITY PER TRASH DAY TIMES TWO AT 5.4 BAGS OF TRASH PER WEEK.
PROBABLY MUCH MORE IF YOU LOOK AT THIS, LOOK AT THIS IN POUNDS AND NOT GALLONS.
USING THE CURRENT ORDINANCE AT 35 POUNDS MAX, YOU WOULD BE LOSING 90 94.5 POUNDS OF SCHEDULED TRASH DAY TIMES TWO IT'S 189 POUNDS PER WEEK. THIS CALCULATIONS ARE IN ABSOLUTE PERFECT WORLD, WHICH IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
SO IN REALITY WE'LL BE LOSING MUCH MORE CAPACITY WITH NO BENEFIT FOR THE CITIZENS IN BURLESON.
PHILIP. TIME'S UP. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER CARD I HAVE IS MR. DAVID O'CONNOR. YES. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS DAVE O'CONNOR.
I LIVE AT 761 VALLEY RIDGE ROAD. I THINK RFK IS GOING TO MANDATE THAT TRASH PICKUP IS TWICE A WEEK, SO MAYBE I DON'T HAVE TO BE UP HERE. SO ANYWAYS, GOOD EVENING COUNCILMEN COUNCILWOMEN AND FELLOW RESIDENTS, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TONIGHT ABOUT THE PROPOSED CHANGES TO OUR GARBAGE COLLECTION SCHEDULE FOR TWICE A WEEK PER TO ONCE A WEEK. WHILE THIS MAY SEEM LIKE A SIMPLE SCHEDULE CHANGE, I THINK THE IMPLICATIONS, I BELIEVE, RUN DEEPER THAN YOU MAY THINK. MAINTAINING OUR TWICE WEEKLY PICKUP SCHEDULE ISN'T JUST ABOUT CONVENIENCE OR MAINTAINING THE STATUS QUO. IT'S ABOUT MAINTAINING OUR QUALITY OF LIFE.
AND IF I MAY. PROTECTING THE PUBLIC HEALTH. JUST FOR A MOMENT, I ASK YOU TO THINK ABOUT YOUR OWN HOUSEHOLD DURING THE HOT SUMMER MONTHS AND DAYS WHEN THE FOOD SCRAPS SITTING IN YOUR GARBAGE BIN IS FERMENTING AND THAT ODOR JUST CONSUMES YOUR ENTIRE GARAGE. WHEN YOU GO OUT THERE TO OPEN UP YOUR GARAGE DOOR, WHEN THAT GARBAGE SITS THERE LONGER, IT ATTRACTS PESTS, WRECKS, PESTS SUCH AS RATS, RACCOONS, AND OTHER ANIMALS BECAUSE OF THE ACCUMULATION OF WASTE.
NOT EVERYBODY HAS THE CONVENIENCE OF STORING GARBAGE IN THEIR GARAGE.
A LOT OF FOLKS STORE THEIR GARBAGE ON THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE.
THE ACCUMULATION IS THIS GOING TO CAUSE MORE ATTRACTION TO BUGS, ANIMALS, RATS AND SO ON AND SO FORTH TO GO THERE AND TEAR THAT GARBAGE APART. CONSIDER OUR NEIGHBORS WITH LARGER FAMILIES.
FIVE KIDS. DIAPERS. FAMILIES THAT ARE TAKING CARE OF THE ELDERLY.
THIS TYPE OF CUTBACK ON SERVICES IS NOT VERY CONVENIENT FOR THEM.
AND THEN WE GOT TO SIT ON THAT. NOT FOR A FEW DAYS, BUT AN ENTIRE WEEK.
AND THEN HOW ABOUT THOSE WEEKS THAT ARE TRASH DAY FALLS ON A HOLIDAY? NOW I'M SITTING ON TRASH FOR. NOT FOR NOT FOR SEVEN DAYS, MAYBE EIGHT DAYS, MAYBE NINE DAYS, MAYBE TEN DAYS. THAT'S HAPPENED SEVERAL TIMES THIS PAST YEAR.
AND THEN HOW ABOUT DAYS THAT WE HAVE INCLEMENT WEATHER? TRASH CANNOT COME AND COLLECT THAT TRASH. ONCE AGAIN, WE'RE SITTING ON TRASH FOR OVER A WEEK.
WE'VE COME AS BURLESON RESIDENT. SPOILED, PERHAPS, MR. CONNORS. YEAH. TIME. OKAY, I APOLOGIZE. THANK YOU.
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OKAY, THAT WILL MOVE US ON TO SECTION FIVE. THE CONSENT AGENDA.[5. CONSENT AGENDA]
ALL ITEMS LISTED BELOW ON THE CONSENT AGENDA ARE AGENDA ARE CONSIDERED ROUTINE BY THE CITY COUNCIL AND WILL BE ENACTED WITH ONE MOTION.THERE WILL BE NO SEPARATE DISCUSSION OF ITEMS AND APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA.
AUTHORIZES THE CITY MANAGER TO IMPLEMENT EACH ITEM IN ACCORDANCE WITH STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS.
THIS EVENING, THE CONSENT AGENDA CONSISTS OF ITEMS FIVE A, FIVE B, FIVE D THROUGH FIVE G.
IS THERE A MOTION FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA? I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE.
I HAVE A MOTION BY ADAM. SECOND BY ALEXA. PLEASE VOTE.
PASSES UNANIMOUS. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM FIVE C, WHICH WAS REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA.
[5.C. Consider and take possible action on a minute order ratifying the 4A Economic Development Corporation Board’s actions taken on the approval of a Second Amendment to and Restatement of Performance Agreement between the Burleson 4A Economic Development Corporation and 2525 FTG – Tulsa, LLC. (4A020623FTG-Tulsa) for a development located at 700, 708, 712, 714, 716, and 720 SW Wilshire Blvd in Burleson, Texas (Staff Contact: Alex Philips, Economic Development Director)]
THIS IS TO CONSIDER AND TAKE POSSIBLE ACTION ON A MINUTE.ORDER RATIFYING THE FOURIER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION'S BOARD.
ACTION TAKEN ON THE APPROVAL OF A OF A SECOND AMENDMENT TO AND REINSTATEMENT OF PERFORMANCE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE BURLESON 4A DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION AND 2525 FTG TULSA, LLC FOR THE DEVELOPMENT LOCATED AT 700, 708 712, 714, 716 AND 720 SOUTHWEST WILSHIRE BOULEVARD. THE STAFF CONTACT THIS EVENING AND PRESENTER IS DREW PHILLIPS, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
DREW PENNYWELL, DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
I WAS FIRST GOING TO OFFER. MAYBE. WOULD IT BE EASIER IF I OFFERED TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THERE MIGHT BE, INSTEAD OF GIVING THE WHOLE CONSENT PRESENTATION? OR WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO GO AHEAD AND JUST GO AHEAD AND GIVE THE PRESENTATION AND ANSWER QUESTIONS? WE CAN RESPOND TO THEM. ALL RIGHT. THIS EVENING I'M JUST GOING TO DISCUSS PROJECT FACELIFT, A SECOND AMENDMENT FOR THAT PROJECT. YOU'LL REMEMBER IT'S IN WITH THE DEVELOPER.
IT'S ACTUALLY RETAIL PARTNERS FOR A TWO ACRE SITE AT THE CORNER OF WILSHIRE AND SUMMER CREST.
REMEMBER, THOSE FOUR LOTS HAVE BEEN VACANT WITH THE OLDER PROPERTIES ON THERE FOR SEVERAL YEARS, UNTIL THE FOURIER CORPORATION ENTERED AN AGREEMENT WITH THE DEVELOPER TO ASSIST THEM WITH ENVIRONMENTAL INFRASTRUCTURE AND A TURN LANE FOR $850,000. THE DEVELOPER HAS COMPLETED THE ENVIRONMENTAL CLEANUP WORK AND CLEARED THE SITE.
THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT TIMELINE HAS BEEN EXTENDED DUE TO THE HIGH DEMAND FOR THAT PARTICULAR SITE AND THE ABILITY TO ACTUALLY TALK WITH SOME HIGHER QUALITY TENANTS, AND THE NEED FOR A NEW SITE PLAN TO ACCOMMODATE THOSE TENANTS.
CURRENTLY, THAT TENANT LINEUP WOULD BE THE GREAT GREEK MEDITERRANEAN GRILL, ONO HAWAIIAN BARBECUE, DAVE'S HOT CHICKEN, AND A FOURTH TO BE DETERMINED THAT THE DEVELOPER ANTICIPATES BEING A FOURTH SALES TAX GENERATING TENANT.
THE DEVELOPER IS NOT REQUESTING ANY ADDITIONAL ECONOMIC INCENTIVES.
COMMENCE CONSTRUCTION BY THE END OF JUNE THIS YEAR, AND THEN SUBSTANTIALLY COMPLETE THE DEVELOPMENT, WITH A MINIMUM CAPITAL INVESTMENT OF $4 MILLION BY THE END OF 2026.
THEY ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE FOUR RETAIL, RESTAURANT OR OFFICE TENANTS.
BUT LIKE I SAY, THEY ANTICIPATE ALL FOUR OF THOSE WILL BE KIND OF RETAIL OR RESTAURANT IN NATURE.
THE AS THEY COMPLETE THESE PERFORMANCE MEASURES, IN THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT, THEY WOULD RECEIVE A PAYMENT OF $425,000 ONCE THEY ARE SUBSTANTIALLY COMPLETE. ANOTHER PAYMENT OF $425,000 ONCE ALL FOUR COS ARE COMPLETED, AND A PAYMENT OF $223,560. WITH THE ACCEPTANCE OF SOME STREET IMPROVEMENTS.
THAT WAS WHAT THE FIRST AMENDMENT WAS ENTERED FOR AS A CFC AGREEMENT WITH OUR CAPITAL DIVISION, TO HELP US TAKE CARE OF SOME NEEDED INFRASTRUCTURE AND WATER IMPROVEMENTS ON THE SITE.
THE BREAK IN, BREAK EVEN YEAR FOR THE CITY. THIS PROJECT WOULD BE YEAR FIVE AND HAVE A 111% RETURN AFTER YEAR TEN. SO TONIGHT'S ACTION IS TO CONSIDER RESOLUTION RATIFYING THE 4A ECONOMIC CORPORATION BOARD'S ACTION
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TAKEN EARLIER THIS EVENING TO APPROVE THAT AMENDMENT, AND I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.IT'S ALSO REPRESENTATIVE HERE FROM RETAIL PARTNERS, IN CASE YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE DEVELOPER AT THIS TIME, I'LL CALL FORWARD LONNIE FREEMAN. DREW, THIS ISN'T REALLY A QUESTION FOR YOU MORE AS FOR THE COUNCIL, BUT I REALLY THINK THAT I DON'T SEE THE NEED TO HAVE SO MANY INCENTIVES TO LURE BUSINESSES HERE NOWADAYS. I MEAN, IF YOU GO UP AND DOWN 174, YOU CAN SEE THE TRAFFIC WE HAVE AND YOU CAN SEE THE CONSTRUCTION THAT COMES IN AND EVERYTHING. AND I JUST FEEL THAT, I MEAN, BUSINESSES ARE GOING TO COME TO BURLESON, AND I DON'T FEEL THE NEED THAT THE CITY NEEDS TO GIVE AWAY TAX DOLLARS TO GET THEM TO COME HERE ANYMORE.
SO ANYWAY, THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO SAY. THANKS.
HEY, LONNIE. YES. HOW DO YOU PERCEIVE I'M TALKING TO A BUSINESSMAN WHEN YOU CAN HAVE THAT TYPE OF RETURN ON YOUR MONEY? WHY WOULD WE NOT GIVE THE INCENTIVE? I MEAN, I'M NOT, I'M ASKING THE QUESTION.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING? MAYBE I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE WHOLE FINANCIAL AGREEMENT AND EVERYTHING ON THIS ONE OR, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST THERE'S BEEN OTHER DEALS IN THE PAST, YOU KNOW, WITH THE CITY GIVING MAJOR INCENTIVES.
I UNDERSTAND THAT. YEAH, BUT WE WOULDN'T GET THIS MUCH IF WE DIDN'T DO THIS.
AND WE'VE HAD TO DO THAT. AND IT'S A GOOD RETURN.
IT'S A LONG TERM RETURN. I THINK WE'VE GROWN ENOUGH.
AND A LOT OF PEOPLE FEEL THAT WAY. YEAH. AND SO THAT, YOU KNOW, AND A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT THERE, THEY'RE REALLY AGAINST THE INCENTIVE, YOU KNOW, ISSUES THAT ARE GOING ON.
AND SO I'M KIND OF SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THEM TO, YOU KNOW, FELLOW BUSINESS OWNERS.
SO ANYWAY. IT'S NOTED AND I UNDERSTAND, I REALLY DO.
THANK YOU, LONNIE. THANKS. IS THERE A MOTION ON THIS? I MOVE TO APPROVE THE CONSIDERATION. YEAH, I MOVE TO APPROVE FOR THIS ONE.
SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION BY ELECTION. AND SECOND BY DAN.
PLEASE VOTE. IT PASSES UNANIMOUS.
THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. THAT BRINGS US TO SECTION SIX DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS.
[6.A. 2152 SW Wilshire (Case 23-370): Continue a public hearing and consider disapproval of an ordinance for a zoning change request from “A”, Agriculture to “PD" Planned Development for Wilshire Urban Village; a townhome and retail development. (First & Final Reading) (Staff Contact: Tony McIlwain, Development Services Director) (The Planning and Zoning Commission recommended disapproval 5 to 3) (This item was postponed from the meeting of December 9, 2024)]
6A2152 SOUTHWEST WILTSHIRE. CASE 23-370. TONIGHT IS TO CONTINUE A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER DISAPPROVAL OF AN ORDINANCE FOR A ZONING CHANGE REQUEST FROM A AGRICULTURAL TO PD.PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR WILTSHIRE URBAN VILLAGE, A TOWNHOME AND RETAIL DEVELOPMENT.
THIS IS BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL ON FIRST AND FINAL READING.
THE STAFF PRESENTER THIS EVENING IS TONY MCELWAIN, DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
MR. MCELWAIN. YES. THANK YOU. TONY. YES I'M GOING TO OPEN AND CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
YES, SIR. CAN YOU STATE THE TIME, PLEASE, MAYOR, WHEN YOU'RE OPENING AND CONTINUING THE PUBLIC HEARING? YES, MA'AM. THAT WILL BE AT 6:09. THANK YOU. MAYOR.
YES. MR. MAYOR, DURING THE COURSE OF OUR LAST PRESENTATION ON THIS ITEM, AS YOU ALL ARE AWARE, THE APPLICANT ASKED TO HAVE IT CONTINUED TO A FUTURE DATE, THAT DATE BEING THIS EVENING FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE COUNCIL AND THOSE IN ATTENDANCE.
I WOULD LIKE TO GO THROUGH THE APPLICATION REQUEST AND THE DEVELOPER IS IN ATTENDANCE.
THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM IS IN ATTENDANCE TONIGHT, AND THEY ALSO HAVE A PRESENTATION THAT THEY'D LIKE TO PROVIDE THE COUNCIL PRIOR TO YOU TAKING ANY DELIBERATIVE ACTION ON THEIR PETITION FOR ZONING.
AS MENTIONED BY THE MAYOR AND CITY SECRETARY.
MR. ORR. ROB ORR IS THE APPLICANT REPRESENTING BURLESON PREMIERE RETAIL ESTATES INVESTMENT? THE ATOM AND DISCUSSION TONIGHT INVOLVES A ZONING CHANGE FROM AGRICULTURAL TO A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO ALLOW FOR A MIXED USE CONCEPT ON A SITE.
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IT IS AGRICULTURALLY ZONED WITH AGRICULTURAL ZONING TO THE REAR OF THE SITE AS WELL AS ACROSS THE STREET. THIS RENDERING LAYOUT, IF YOU WILL, IS WHAT WAS INITIALLY SUBMITTED TO THE CITY STAFF AND ACCOMPANIED THE INITIAL REQUEST TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.YOU'VE GOT THREE DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENT SCHEMES GOING ON.
ONE IS ZONE A, WHICH IS GENERAL RETAIL. THAT IS THE FRONTAGE AREA ALONG WILSHIRE.
IT IS DEPICTED BY THOSE PROSPECTIVE PAD SITES TOTALING A TOTAL OF NINE, IF MY MATH IS CORRECT, MY VISION IS CORRECT ON THE SCREEN. ZONE B BUILT ON IS ESSENTIALLY AS SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED CONCEPT THAT IS BEING PROPOSED BY THE DEVELOPER, AND THEN ZONE C, A BUILD TO RENT CONCEPT BEING PROPOSED BY THE DEVELOPER WITH THE PD ZONING TEXT THAT YOU HAVE.
THIS IS A COLORED RENDERING OF THE PROPERTY. AND THIS IS SOME OF THE DETAIL PROVIDED TO YOU AS WELL AS TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
YOU'VE GOT A LITTLE MORE THAN 12 ACRES SET ASIDE FOR GENERAL RETAIL USES.
BASE ZONING IS GENERAL RETAIL GAS STATIONS ALLOWED BY RIGHT.
TO MY KNOWLEDGE, YOUR TOWNHOMES, WHICH ARE YOUR SFA, OVER TEN ACRES OF LAND, MAXIMUM DENSITY OF 12 UNITS PER ACRE, UP TO EIGHT UNITS CONNECTED. MINIMUM LOT OF LOT WIDTH OF 20FT.
LOT SIZE OF 1500 FEET. SO YOU'VE GOT PARKING INCLUDED WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT CONCEPT, WITH AN ENCLOSED GARAGE COUNTING AS A SPACE. ZONE C, WHICH THEY'VE GOT LABELED AS TOWNHOMES, IS YOUR BUILD TO RENT COMMUNITY.
AGAIN, UP TO EIGHT UNITS CONNECTED. MAXIMUM COMPLEX LENGTH OF 270FT.
SO YOUR LIVING AREA FOR EACH UNIT IS A MINIMUM OF 600FT.
IN THAT SENSE, IT'S LIKE AN EFFICIENCY UNIT WITH THAT SQUARE FOOTAGE.
AND SO IN THE AMENITIES PACKAGE, WHAT THE DEVELOPER IS PROPOSING IS TO HAVE THOSE COMPLETE PRIOR TO THREE QUARTERS OF THE UNITS BEING READY FOR OCCUPANCY. AND COUNCIL, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO STOP ME AT ANY TIME IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS.
RENDERINGS THAT WERE PROVIDED TO STAFF ARE INCLUDED ON THE SCREEN.
YOUR BUILD TO BUILD TO OWN EXAMPLE. EXCUSE ME ARE THE UNITS THAT YOU HAVE ON THE SCREEN WITH THE ELEVATIONS? AND I'LL LET THAT STAY FOR A SECOND, JUST FOR YOU TO.
MAKE SURE THAT YOU DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING WHAT'S BEING DEMONSTRATED.
TONY, THIS LOOKS LIKE AN APARTMENT COMPLEX. I'M SORRY.
IT JUST IT KIND OF DOES. I NOTICED IN THE SPECS BEFORE THIS.
THESE ARE THREE STORY TALL. WELL, YOU HAVE 30FT.
THAT IS ALLOWED IN TERMS OF HEIGHT FOR ONE OF THE CONCEPTS.
OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM ANY OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS BEFORE I MOVE AHEAD? OKAY. I'M SORRY. YES. YES. IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN I DON'T KNOW WHAT ABILITIES WE HAVE AS FAR AS, LIKE, RESTRICTING OR TRYING TO HELP DIVERSIFY THE PRODUCT THAT WE GET, LIKE CHANGING IT UP. SO IT'S NOT JUST A FLAT FRONT AND LOOKS LIKE A BIG RENTAL SPACE THAT THEY ALL KIND OF LOOK A LITTLE LIKE.
GIVES THEM SOME PERSONALITY, GIVES THEM SOME ATTRACTIVENESS TO NOT SEEM.
BECAUSE I KNOW, LIKE WHEN WE HAVE SUBDIVISIONS BUILT, WE HAVE RULES THAT SAY YOU CAN'T BUILD THE EXACT SAME MODEL YOU KNOW, NEXT DOOR. THOSE KIND OF THINGS. IS THAT APPLICABLE? SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN THIS SCENARIO? IT IS IN A SENSE THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED IN PREVIOUS DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS AND BROUGHT TO YOU ANTI-MONOPOLY STANDARDS.
WE'VE LOOKED AT CLUSTERING OF UNITS NOT TO EXCEED A CERTAIN AMOUNT.
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WE'VE LOOKED AT CERTAIN FACADE ARTICULATIONS, SUCH AS DORMERS.WE LOOKED AT THE PLACEMENT OF GARAGES BEING REAR ENTRY VERSUS ENTRY, FOR INSTANCE.
THAT'S JUST GIVING YOU ALL SOME EXAMPLE OF WHAT WE'VE PREVIOUSLY DONE.
I DON'T WANT TO GET AHEAD OF MY SKIS BECAUSE THE DEVELOPER ALSO WANTS TO TALK TO YOU AND HE'S, THEY'LL PROBABLY BE MUCH BETTER AT ANSWERING THE QUESTIONS TO WHAT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THEY MIGHT CONSIDER DOING.
AND I SPOKE WITH THE DEVELOPER A COUPLE OF TIMES AND HAVE BEEN VERY APPRECIATIVE OF THEIR TIME.
I'VE BEEN VOCAL THAT WE NEED A TOWNHOME PRODUCT.
WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH OF THAT. THAT IS A SPACE THAT NEEDS TO BE FILLED IN OUR COMMUNITY.
THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT WANT A LITTLE BIT MORE SPACE THAN AN APARTMENT, BUT FEEL THAT THEY HAVE THEIR OWN HOME, THEIR OWN PIECE OF PROPERTY, BUT STILL HAVE THE PERKS OF SOMEBODY ELSE TAKING CARE OF LAWN AND ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT SOMETIMES HOMEOWNERS JUST DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH. THERE'S SPACE IN THIS COMMUNITY FOR THIS PRODUCT, BUT HOW DO WE GET A PRODUCT THAT'S NICE, WELL MAINTAINED, IS KEPT UP WELL AND IS ATTRACTIVE TO PEOPLE WHO WANT TO LIVE THERE.
ALL VERY GOOD QUESTIONS. YOU KNOW, WITH THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION, THE LEGISLATIVE, EXCUSE ME, LEGISLATIVE CHANGES IN THE LAST FEW YEARS CITIES DON'T HAVE AS MUCH CAPACITY WITH REGARD TO BUILDING MATERIALS.
YOU DO HAVE SOME DISCRETION WHEN YOU HAVE SPECIALIZED ZONING REQUESTS, SUCH AS PLANNED DEVELOPMENTS, TO LOOK AT SOME OF THE THINGS, SUCH AS ELEVATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN PROVIDED TO YOU.
SO I THINK EACH OF YOU HAS YOUR OWN IDEAS TO WHAT CONSTITUTES ATTRACTIVE DEVELOPMENT.
I THINK THE KEY IS MAKING SURE WE HAVE THE DIVERSIFICATION OF THE PRODUCT IN A WAY THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH OUR PLANNING DOCUMENTS, AND ALSO SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD CONSIDER IN THIS CASE AS A COMPONENT TO COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, BECAUSE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT IS INDEED WHAT THE COMP PLAN IS PUSHING US TOWARD.
SO YOU'RE LOOKING FOR SOMETHING FROM A COMPATIBILITY STANDPOINT THAT WILL WORK. I THINK TONIGHT DURING THE DISCUSSION, DURING THE COURSE OF DISCUSSION THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM IS CERTAINLY MORE ACUTELY AWARE OF WHAT THEY THINK THE MARKET WILL YIELD, WHAT THE MARKET WILL YIELD FRUIT IN TERMS OF DEVELOPMENT.
PLACEMENT OF WINDOWS, DOORS, GARAGES. HEIGHT YOUR SLOPE OF YOUR ROOF, YOUR ROOF.
PITCH. THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT SCALE AND COMPATIBILITY FROM A PEDESTRIAN STANDPOINT.
ATTRACTIVE DEVELOPMENT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS.
SO THIS IS YOUR BILL TO RENT EXAMPLE. AND THIS IS A ONE STORY PRODUCT.
YOU HAVE YOUR VERTICAL BOARDING ELEMENTS AND YOU HAVE A VARIETY OF VARYING ROOF HEIGHTS.
WHAT YOU HAVE IS A LINKAGE BETWEEN THE UNITS VIA GARAGE SPACE WAS BEING PROPOSED AND SHOWN, I THINK IS A RUN OF FOUR UNITS AS WHAT'S ON THE SCREEN.
WHAT'S ALLOWED IN THE PD IS UP TO EIGHT UNITS.
SO YOU HAVE IN THIS PARTICULAR SET ASIDE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT, IT'S A VERY URBAN DENSE URBAN DENSE TRYING TO THINK OF THE RIGHT WORD.
I WANT TO USE ESTHETIC TO WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED.
THERE'S NOT A LOT, BY THE WAY, OF YARD SPACE, AND THAT'S THE INTENDED EFFECT.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE TRY TO LOOK FOR IS THAT WHEN YOU'RE MANEUVERING VEHICLES IN AND OUT, WE GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE CAPACITY AND TURNING AVAILABILITY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY GET VEHICLES IN AND OUT AND MAKE AND MAKE SURE THAT AT THE END RESULT, THE PRODUCT IS GOING TO WORK FOR THE RESIDENTS THAT STAY THERE.
AND SO THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM CAN DISCUSS THAT MORE WITH YOU AS WELL.
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OF OCCUPANCY FOR THESE PORTION OF THE DEVELOPMENT.WE RECEIVED TWO LETTERS OF OPPOSITION. WE DID OUR PUBLICATIONS IN THE NEWSPAPER AND POSTED SIGNS ON THE PROPERTY, TOOK THEM TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. IT WAS A GREAT DEAL OF DISCUSSION. ULTIMATELY, WHAT YOU HAD IS A VOTE OF DISAPPROVAL.
5 TO 3. SOME MEMBERS HAD CONCERNS REGARDING DENSITY.
THEY THOUGHT IT WAS A LITTLE TOO HIGH. PHASING WAS A LARGE DISCUSSION AT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING, MEANING THE COMMISSION WAS ACUTELY CONCERNED ABOUT MAKING SURE THERE WAS INDEED SOME INTENT TO PROACTIVELY SEEK OUT COMMERCIAL INTEREST ON THE PROPERTY.
ENTRANCE LOCATIONS AND LACK OF OPEN SPACES WERE ALSO DISCUSSED.
THE THOSE IN ATTENDANCE IN ATTENDANCE WERE MR. ROB ORR, MR. LARRY MILLER, WHO IS HERE TONIGHT, AND WE HAD ONE COUPLE SHOW UP, MR. BRUCE AND MARY LOU BUTLER SPOKE IN OPPOSITION AND WE GOT THE BULLET POINTS OF WHAT THEY DISCUSSED.
SO STAFF HAS WORKED WITH THE APPLICANT FOR WELL OVER A OVER A YEAR, AND WE ARE UNABLE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL FOR THE CHANGE. IT DOES NOT CONFORM WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, SO I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT.
WITH THAT BEING SAID, WHAT WE ALWAYS DISCUSS WAS WHAT PERCENTAGE OF A MIXED BAG WOULD BE AGREEABLE NOT ONLY TO THE STAFF, BUT ALSO TO APPOINTED AND ELECTED OFFICIALS. THIS IS THE PRODUCT THAT THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM.
FEELS IS COMFORTABLE FOR THEM TO BRING FORWARD.
WE DO REALIZE YOU NEED TO HAVE ROOFTOPS TO ACTIVATE COMMERCIAL INTEREST, BUT YOU HAVE A VERY HEAVILY TRAFFICKED ROADWAY IN WILTSHIRE, SO WE THINK THERE'S A LOT OF VEHICLE TRIPS PER DAY THAT WOULD MAYBE OFFSET SOME INTEREST IF WE COULD ACTUALLY GO OUT AND RECRUIT AN INTERESTED PARTY. ANOTHER CONCERN WAS WE WANTED SOME PHASING SCHEME SO THAT THE RETAIL COMPONENT WOULDN'T BE AN AFTERTHOUGHT. AND ULTIMATELY THE CITY BEING LEFT WITH NO RETAIL FRONTAGE BUT JUST UNDEVELOPED SPACE.
SO I THINK TO THAT END, THE MOST RECENT DISCUSSION WITH THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM WAS TO PUT FORWARD THE CHANGE THAT WAS PROVIDED TO YOU, WHERE THERE WAS SOME PROPOSED GUARANTEE THAT THEY WOULD PURSUE ANY OCCUPANCY FOR THE BUILD TO RENT COMPONENT.
EXCUSE ME. SO THIS IS NOT THE ENTIRETY OF WHAT WE DISCUSSED.
DISCUSS. OBVIOUSLY, IT'S HARD TO ENCAPSULATE THAT IN THIS DISCUSSION.
I WANT TO HIT THE HIGH POINTS. SO. LONG STORY SHORT, WE'RE LOOKING AT A PRODUCT THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE LEND ITSELF MORE TO A COMMERCIAL NATURE. WE THINK THIS LENDS ITSELF MORE TO A RESIDENTIAL NATURE THAN THE COMMERCIAL NATURE.
WE UNDERSTAND THAT THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT IS LARGELY UNKNOWN.
WE KNOW THAT BOTH OF THESE PRODUCTS ARE SPECULATIVE, IN THE SENSE THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO GO OUT AND ATTRACT A COMMERCIAL INTEREST, AND YOU'RE BUILDING THESE UNITS TO ATTRACT INTEREST AS WELL.
SO WE'RE AWARE OF ALL THAT. WE'RE AWARE OF ALL THAT.
ANYBODY? DO YOU WANT? AT THIS TIME, WE'LL CALL FORWARD THE DEVELOPER TO MAKE THEIR PRESENTATION, IF THAT'S OKAY WITH CITY COUNCIL.
OKAY. WITH AN OPEN PUBLIC HEARING. THE HEARING IS ALREADY OPENED RIGHT NOW.
OKAY, SO WE'RE GOOD TO GO RIGHT NOW. YES, WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE ON. LET'S GO AHEAD.
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THE AUDIENCE. YES, SIR. YES, SIR. UNLESS YOU'RE GOING TO DO THE PRESENTATION, THEN YOU CAN SIT AT THE PODIUM.DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO HAND OUT, SIR? I DO.
SO WE HAVE A DECK BEING HANDED OUT RIGHT NOW TO EVERYONE.
THAT GIVES YOU A FEW DIFFERENT VIEWPOINTS OF RENDERINGS, ELEVATIONS AND SO FORTH AND SO ON.
AND IF I CAN GET ONE OF THOSE TOO, THAT'D BE GREAT.
OKAY, SO I'VE GOT A FEW PIECES OF THIS JUST TO BREEZE THROUGH IT.
IT'S A LITTLE BIT BACKGROUND ABOUT OUR COMPANY, WHAT WE'VE DONE.
IT'S GOT THEN THE ARCHITECTURAL GROUP THAT WE'VE HIRED TO MAKE THIS A GREAT PROJECT.
SO BEFORE WE DIVE INTO THE PACKAGE, A FEW THINGS WERE BROUGHT UP IN THE PAST COMMISSION HEARING.
ONE WAS THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE WHAT'S CALLED A RETAIL PLAN, THAT FOR JUST THE SIMPLISTIC COMPONENT OF TONIGHT, OUR RETAIL PLAN IS THAT WE PLAN ON PUTTING IN THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR ALL THE RETAIL BEFORE ANY OCCUPANCY COULD BE HAD ON OUR SINGLE STORY TOWNHOME FOR RENT PRODUCT. AND WE'VE TAKEN IT TO THE POINT WHERE, WITH OUR ATTORNEY AND THE CITY ATTORNEY, WE'VE DRAFTED A STIPULATION THAT WE CAN ADD TO THIS APPROVAL PROCESS THAT WILL EFFECTUATE THE HOLD ON OCCUPANCY UNTIL ALL THAT INFRASTRUCTURE IS DONE.
WHAT THAT REALLY MEANS IS THAT MY PLAN IS TO DO THE RETAIL PIECE OF THE PROJECT, PUT IN ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE, ALL THE STREET, CURB, GUTTER, SIDEWALK, SEWER, WATER, UTILITIES, THE WHOLE BIT LANDSCAPE IT WHICH OUR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT WILL EXPLAIN WHAT THE LANDSCAPE IS AND MAKE IT PAD READY FOR A TENANT THAT WANTS TO COME OUT AND QUICKLY GET INTO BURLESON.
SO YOU CAN GUARANTEE WE'VE GOT MOTIVATION TO MOVE IT.
I SHOULD SAY OUR CITY, FRANKLY. AND THAT'S OUR PLAN.
THAT'S OUR PLAN TO MAKE THE RETAIL WORK. AND I DON'T THINK THERE'S A BETTER WAY TO GO ABOUT DOING THAT UNLESS YOU JUST START GENERATING YOUR OWN TENANT, AND I CAN'T DO THAT. SO TO THEN MOVE FORWARD WITH THE BOOK, IT TALKS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT BURLESON TALKS ABOUT OUR HISTORY, OUR BACKGROUND. WE'VE GOT ABOUT 3000 ACRES RIGHT NOW IN THE DALLAS FORT WORTH MARKET UNDER MASTER PLAN DEVELOPMENT.
WE'VE GIVEN YOU SOME, SOME EXAMPLES OF SOME PROJECTS THAT WE'VE DONE ON PAGE THREE.
THE ONE ON THE FAR LEFT TRADITIONS IS FORT WORTH.
THERE ARE TWO ARE IN ARIZONA. THERE MASTER PLAN DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS.
THE NEXT PAGE ON PAGE FOUR. SAME THING. THESE WERE ALL BASICALLY ALFALFA FARMS, WHEN WE TOOK THEM OVER AND THEY TURNED INTO THIS OR IT WAS DESERT. LARRY, WHICH ONE OF THESE MIMICS WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO HERE THE MOST? THE ONE THAT WILL DO THE MOST IS ON PAGE FIVE.
IT'S A TOWNHOME. GARAGES ON EVERY UNIT, PLENTY OF PARKING.
WE HAVE GAS TO EVERY UNIT INSTEAD OF ELECTRIC COOKTOP.
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PROJECT. ON PAGE SIX, I'D LIKE TO TURN OVER TO ERIC, OUR ARCHITECT, ABOUT SOME OF THE INTRICACIES OF THAT PROJECT, THE BUILD FOR IT SPECIFIC AND TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE PIECES.WHEN HE'S DONE, I'LL COME BACK AND INTRODUCE AGAIN. GOOD EVENING.
AS LARRY SAID, WE HAVE 41 ACRES THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH, AND WE'RE TRYING TO HAVE A HORIZONTAL MIXED USE PROJECT THAT CAN BE USED FOR PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE, WORK AND PLAY. SO THE CONNECTIVITY TO THIS PROJECT IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT, AND LARRY'S COMMITMENT TO THE RETAIL KIND OF EXCITES ME AS AN ARCHITECT, BECAUSE I'M A MULTIFAMILY ARCHITECT AND A HOUSING ARCHITECT. THEY BROUGHT IN A RETAIL ARCHITECT TO SPECIALIZE ON THE RETAIL CENTER ITSELF.
THE PRODUCT TYPE OF THE BUILD TO RENT, WHICH IS REALLY A SINGLE STORY TOWNHOME BECAUSE IT IS A PRODUCT THAT HAS A DIRECT ACCESS GARAGE TO IT, WITH 650 SQUARE FOOT, ONE BEDROOM UNITS AND 1200 SQUARE FOOT TWO BEDROOM UNITS, AGAIN WITH A DIRECT ACCESS GARAGE, PULL RIGHT IN AND OPEN THE DOOR. WALK INTO IT JUST LIKE A SINGLE FAMILY HOME, EXCEPT IT'S GOING TO BE ATTACHED.
SO THEY'RE NOT AS BIG AS, AS KIND OF WHAT THEY COULD BE IN A SENSE, BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO LIMIT THAT TO MORE OF THE FEELING OF A SINGLE FAMILY HOME WHERE I HAVE A BACKYARD. I CAN KEEP MY PUPPY IN THE BACK, I'VE GOT A GARAGE ACCESS.
I CAN HAVE THE BIKES FOR THE KIDS IN THERE AND WHAT HAVE YOU.
SO WE'VE GOT TWO PICKLEBALL COURTS ON THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE SITE ADJACENT TO THE RETAIL.
WE'VE GOT TWO OTHER SMALLER PARKS THERE. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A CONNECTIVITY OF WALKING TRAIL AROUND, AS IT AS IT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER, TO BE ABLE TO CONNECT ALL THROUGH EVEN TO THE TOWNHOME PRODUCT AS WELL.
THE, THE 180 UNITS THAT ARE ON THE SINGLE STORY TOWNHOME PRODUCT WE FEEL IS A GOOD STEPPING STONE FOR RESIDENTS THAT WOULD LIKE TO LIVE IN BURLESON AND EXPERIENCE WHAT BURLESON HAS TO OFFER. BUT I MIGHT NOT BE AT THE PRICE POINT TO ACTUALLY BUY A HOUSE YET, OR BE READY FOR THAT COMMITMENT. IF THEY ARE, THEN THEY HAVE THE NEXT STEP INTO THE SINGLE FAMILY FOR SALE PRODUCT.
THOSE ARE TWO STORY UNITS, TWO CAR GARAGES, THREE BEDROOM, TWO BATH UNITS.
INSIDE OF THAT, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE LEASING CENTER, FITNESS CENTER, A CYBER LOUNGE, CAFE, KIND OF LIKE A SPORTS, I'M SORRY, A STARBUCKS TYPE CAFE.
GO IN AND USE THE WI-FI AND SO FORTH. WE'LL HAVE A MAIL CENTER AND THEN LIKE I SAID, WE'LL HAVE A DOG PARK AT THE FAR END OF THE SITE, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE PROBABLY A TRELLIS THERE AND MAYBE AN OUTDOOR 1 OR 2 OUTDOOR DOG WASHES AND SO FORTH.
OF COURSE, PICKLEBALL IS BECOMING ONE OF THE BIGGER, LARGER SPORTS HERE.
WE'RE STARTING TO PUT 1 OR 2 IN. THE ONLY ISSUE WITH THE PICKLEBALL IS THAT YOU CAN HEAR THE BALL BOUNCE, RIGHT. SO WE WERE ABLE TO CREATE THIS NICE PARK AT THE END NOT TO REALLY DISTURB ANY OF THE EXISTING RESIDENTS.
SO A LOT OF THESE UNITS THEMSELVES HAVE A DIFFERENT HIERARCHY AS FAR AS THE ELEVATION GO AND ENTRY POINTS ALSO TO CREATE A VARYING OF ARCHITECTURAL STYLE WITHIN ITSELF. WE WILL USE SOME DIFFERENT PAINT COLORS TO DIFFERENTIATE BUILDING FROM BUILDING.
LET'S GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. AND THESE ARE THE TOWNHOMES, YOU SAW THE BLACK AND WHITE VERSION OF ONE OF THE TOWNHOME BUILDINGS I BELIEVE, THAT HAD SIX UNITS TO IT THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE FOUR DIFFERENT STYLES.
SO EACH ONE WILL HAVE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT FLAVOR TO IT.
THE OTHER ONE IS MORE OF A MAJORITY OF A BRICK.
SO WE ARE TRYING TO HAVE DIFFERENTIATION OF TOWNHOME UNITS WITHIN THAT DEVELOPMENT AS WELL.
AND THEN THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME WALKING AREA THERE AND OPEN SPACE AND SOME TRELLIS AREA.
I THINK THAT WITH WHAT YOU HAD MENTIONED ABOUT THE HEIGHTS OF IT, THERE ARE NO, I WANT TO BE CLEAR.
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THERE'S NO THREE STORY STRUCTURES THAT PRESENTING THERE.I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU, PLEASE, RELATING TO THIS.
OKAY. ON THE PACKETS THAT WE JUST RECEIVED, BECAUSE YOU JUST SAID THERE WOULD BE THREE OR 3 TO 4 UNITS AND THESE ARE SHOWING EIGHT UNITS, ALL LINKED TOGETHER ON THE BUILD TO RENT. YES.
THE ONE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE. GO BACK. GO BACK RIGHT THERE.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THESE RENDERINGS, YOU HAVE EIGHT LINKED TOGETHER.
I'M SORRY, BUT I'M JUST NOT SEEING ONE. IS EIGHT TOGETHER? THERE'S A SIX VERTICAL ALONG THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE PAGE.
OKAY. THIS PAGE RIGHT HERE. YOU'VE GOT EIGHT.
NEXT TO THE DOG PARK. NEXT TO THE DOG PARK. VERTICALLY ON THE ON THE SIX.
AND IT'S SHOWING 81234. OH, THAT'S ON THE TOWNHOME FOR SALE PRODUCT.
I WAS TALKING ABOUT THE BUILD TO RENT. OKAY. ONLY THE SINGLE STORY IS TWO FOURS AND SIXES.
SO WE'VE STACKED THEM MORE THAN SIX TOGETHER WHERE THE SINGLE STORY IS MORE OF A HORIZONTAL PRODUCT.
SO WE DID NOT WANT TO MAKE THEM AS LONG AS AN EIGHT UNIT PRODUCT ON THAT ONE.
I'M SORRY IF I WAS CONFUSING ABOUT THAT IN MY PRESENTATION.
OH, THAT'S IT, I AM AND THAT'S IT. I AM OPEN FOR THE NEXT PORTION.
YEAH. DID YOU SEE HIM. OKAY. SO THERE'S BEEN MUCH DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS AND THE EIGHT UNITS BEING ON HERE, THAT'S WHAT A COUPLE OF US ARE HESITANT ON.
I KNOW THAT YOU'RE DOING MULTIFAMILY. YOU'RE USED TO DOING MULTIFAMILY.
AND WE DON'T WANT THESE TO LOOK LIKE APARTMENTS.
I THINK YOU DID SAY 4 TO 6 A MINUTE AGO AND NOT EIGHT.
THAT WOULD BE VERY BENEFICIAL, BUT IT'S NOT DOCUMENTED.
IF WE WERE TO GO TO A SIX UNIT TOWNHOME FOR VERSUS A MATT NOT USE AN EIGHT UNIT BUILDING.
CORRECT. YEAH, WE COULD DO THAT. IN WRITING. YES.
ALEXIS. YEAH. YOU'RE NOT DONE, RIGHT? OKAY. OKAY, SO TO CLARIFY, WE'LL MAKE THE TOWNHOME FOR SALE PRODUCT NO GREATER THAN SIX UNITS PER BUILDING. WHERE IS THAT? OR YOU'RE GOING TO ADD THAT.
AND I'M GOOD WITH THAT. WE'RE OKAY WITH THAT. OKAY.
SO I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE ANYWHERE WE'RE GOOD.
YOU HAVE A GARAGE IN BETWEEN EACH ONE. IS THAT JUST A ONE CAR GARAGE? BECAUSE I CAN TELL YOU ON SUMMERCREST, BASICALLY SAME THING.
ONE CAR GARAGE. WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO PUT? NOBODY HAS ONE CAR? NO, SIR. THAT'S CORRECT. THEY HAVE ABOUT 4 OR 5 CARS AND THEY'RE ALL ON THE STREET AND IT'S HORRIBLE WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO PARK THEM.
AND THEN THE 0.25 REQUIRED FOR A VISITOR IS WITHIN THE PARKING LOT, STRIPED.
OKAY. DO YOU HAVE A, IS THERE ALSO MY OTHER QUESTION? DO YOU HAVE A LEASING AGENCY ON SITE OR WILL THEY HAVE TO GO SOMEPLACE ELSE? DO YOU HAVE SOMEBODY WATCHING OVER THIS OR. YES.
THERE'S A CLUB LEASING. THERE'S CLUB LEASING FACILITY MAINTENANCE ON THE.
YEAH. WE WILL HAVE A PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATION ON THE ENTIRE PROJECT.
RETAIL FOR SALE PRODUCT AND THE FOR RENT AND ON THE FOR SALE.
THEY'LL HAVE AN ADDITIONAL HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION FOR THAT PROJECT SPECIFICALLY.
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THOUGHTS THAT WENT THROUGH THAT. GOOD EVENING.MY NAME IS MIKE LUCKOVICH. I'M THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT ON THE PROJECT.
IT'S OKAY. OR DAN, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL ME IS FINE.
AND I THINK WHAT YOU'LL NOTICE TOO, IS THAT IT'S ONE THING TO VIEW A BLACK AND WHITE PLAN, ESPECIALLY IN TWO DIMENSIONS VERSUS A COLOR ONE.
SO EVERYTHING THAT WE JUST WANT TO ELABORATE ON WHAT ERIC MENTIONED BEFORE ON THE OVERALL SITE PLAN, IT IS INTENTIONAL TO HAVE CONNECTIVITY. THAT IS A NUMBER ONE PRIORITY FOR ANY, ANY TIME THAT WE GET BROUGHT INTO A PROJECT, WE'RE MEANT TO HAVE IMPACT WE DON'T TYPICALLY WORK ON FOR MY FIRM, WE DON'T TYPICALLY WORK ON IF THERE'S ANYTHING WRONG WITH IT, BUT JUST CODE COMPLIANT PLANS WE TYPICALLY BRING BROUGHT INTO PROJECTS TO HAVE SOME IMPACT AND TO MAKE SURE THAT THE VALUE IS WHERE IT SHOULD BE.
SO WE DO A STUDY ON EVERYTHING THAT WE DO FOR TOWNHOMES FOR RENT OR TOWNHOMES FOR SALE, EVEN RETAIL.
WE WORK ON MANY MIXED USE DEVELOPMENTS. SO ONE OF THE NUMBER ONE THINGS IS MAKING SURE THERE'S CONNECTIVITY FOR ALL THE FOR THE PEDESTRIANS WILL BE USING THESE UNITS HERE AND ACTUALLY WALKING FROM THERE TO THE RETAIL, MAKING SURE THAT'S ALL OPEN AND VERY ACCESSIBLE.
THE FIRST THING I'LL MENTION TO IS ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE PAGE, WE KIND OF ENLARGE IT.
SO THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT'S JUST VERY SIMPLE. I BELIEVE WE'LL HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S A POOL WITH SOME AMENITIES TO IT, SOME FEATURES WITHIN IT. IT'LL HAVE SOME CHASE, SOME CHASE LOUNGES, SOME SEATING AREAS, A FIRE PIT, GRILL STATIONS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
THINGS THAT YOU WOULD SEE FOR AN FOR AN UPPER ECHELON TYPE OF COMMUNITY.
A LOT OF TIMES THAT GENERATES SOME NOISE. NOT EVERY RESIDENT APPRECIATES THAT. SO IT IS INTENTIONAL A LOT OF TIMES TO PUSH THAT TO THE PERIMETER, NOT SO MUCH TO JUST HAVE LEFTOVER SPACE, BUT JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ARE ACCOMMODATING AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE.
THE DOG PARK IS SIZABLE. THAT'S A 16,000FT² TO 17,000 SQUARE FOOT DOG PARK.
BETWEEN THE FOR RENT AND THE FOR SALE SIDE, WE HAVE OVER THREE ACRES OF OPEN SPACE.
SO EACH ONE OF THESE IS INTENTIONAL. WE MENTIONED ACTIVE OPEN SPACES LIKE ERIC MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY.
IT'S ALSO ANCHORED IN THE MIDDLE BY A PERGOLA SHADE STRUCTURE.
WE UNDERSTAND WE'RE IN TEXAS. THERE HAS TO BE SHADE.
AND THEN WE HAVE OTHER STATIONS IN AREAS LIKE BIKE RACKS.
IT'S KIND OF TO BE DETERMINED EXACTLY WHAT THAT IS. BUT FOR RIGHT NOW THERE'S A LOT OF PLANTED AREA, SOME SHADE AREAS OVERLOOKING ONTO A WET POND, THINGS THAT ARE ALL ESTHETICALLY PLEASING AND ADD VALUE.
THE NEXT SLIDE JUST SIMPLY SHOWS JUST SOME IMAGES OF EXACTLY WHAT WE MEAN. WE BELIEVE THESE ARE GOOD CHARACTER AND LIFESTYLE IMAGES FOR THE EXACT TYPE OF PRODUCT THAT WE WOULD INSTALL. SO YOU'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH THESE FROM OPEN LAWNS WITH FESTOON LIGHTING KIND OF SETTING THAT MOOD.
FIRE PITS, WALKING TRAILS. OUTDOOR KITCHENS AGAIN, SWIMMING POOLS WITH FEATURES INSIDE OF THEM.
SOME ENHANCED PLANTING AREAS, SPORT COURTS AND THEN ESPECIALLY THE DOG PARK.
AND THIS ISN'T JUST CODE COMPLIANT, IT'S ABOVE AND BEYOND.
I'LL GO AHEAD AND START. I REALLY LIKE THIS. I REALLY APPRECIATE THE DETAIL THAT WENT IN HERE.
ESPECIALLY I WAS CALLING IT A BUFFER ZONE. SO WHERE YOUR DOG PARK IS? I THINK IT'S GOING TO COME. I THINK WHAT PART OF IT IS, IS THAT THINGS AREN'T PUT IN INTO WRITING.
EXACTLY WHAT I WAS SAYING. WE DON'T WANT IT TO LOOK LIKE AN APARTMENT.
I UNDERSTAND, AND I KNOW SEVERAL BURLESON RESIDENTS, INCLUDING MYSELF.
WE DON'T WANT IT TO LOOK LIKE AN APARTMENT COMPLEX.
WE WANT PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO GO HOME AND BE PROUD OF THIS IS MY HOME AND COME OVER AND SEE ME.
AND WE CAN'T GO OVER TWO AND A HALF CARS BEING PARKED OUT FRONT.
AND I THINK IT'S COMPLETELY ACHIEVABLE AND ATTAINABLE TO DO THAT.
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DAN, BUT YOU HAVE FOUR UNITS THAT ARE THERE TOGETHER INSTEAD OF THE EIGHT.PUT A WALKWAY, PUT SOME TREES THERE. MAKE IT LOOK WHERE THERE IS SOME SEPARATION.
I DO KNOW FROM BEING IN AN INDUSTRY THAT WE HAVE GREAT NEEDS FOR HOUSES.
AND GUESS WHAT? NOT EVERYBODY WANTS TO MOVE INTO A QUARTER OF AN ACRE RIGHT NOW.
THEY DON'T WANT TO DO YARDS. PEOPLE ARE DOWNSIZING.
THERE ARE SOME THAT ARE ALSO IN SURROUNDING AREAS THAT THEY HAVE.
I SWEAR THE YARD WAS FOUR FOOT OF TURF AND THE FAMILY'S LOVED IT.
NOT MY CUP OF TEA, BUT IT'S WHAT THEY LIKED. BUT IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA, IT IS VERY NICE.
SITUATION THEY HAVE GOING ON, THEY'RE PROUD TO BE THERE.
SO I THINK WHAT VICTORIA WAS SAYING, WE NEED TO SHOW A LITTLE BIT WHERE IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE AN APARTMENT COMPLEX, AND THAT'S NOT REALLY REFLECTED IN THE WRITING.
I LOVE THE WORDS THAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT IT'S NOT IN WRITING FOR THE PD.
SO, THANK YOU. YEAH. HERE'S THE THING. IT DEFINITELY IS NOT GOING TO LOOK LIKE AN APARTMENT.
YOU'RE NOT GOING TO WALK THERE AND SAY, HEY, WELL, THIS IS AN APARTMENT COMPLEX. IT'LL BE DIFFERENT. AND WHAT IS IN WRITING IS ELEVATIONS. THAT'S OUR ELEVATIONS. SO THAT'S WHAT IT WILL LOOK LIKE.
PLUS OR MINUS. THAT'S IT. SO THE WORDS DON'T WORK AS WELL AS THE PHOTO.
KIND OF LIKE A PICTURE'S WORTH A THOUSAND WORDS. THAT'S HOW IT LOOKS.
IT LOOKS GOOD. AND I THINK IT'S SOMETHING YOU KNOW, NOT EVERYBODY LIKES A REMBRANDT.
SOME PEOPLE LIKE A PICASSO. BUT IN THIS CASE, I THINK IT WILL HIT ENOUGH OF THE DEMOGRAPHIC POPULATION BASE THAT THEY'LL HAVE PLENTY OF PEOPLE THAT WANT TO LIVE THERE THAT WILL LOVE LIVING THERE.
THIS PRODUCT TYPE IS AMAZING. IT'S A VERY HIGHLY DESIRABLE LIVING SITUATION.
OKAY, SO MAC, YOU WANT TO COME UP AND TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE RETAIL INFRASTRUCTURE HERE AND THEN WHAT WERE YOU GOING TO TALK ABOUT? WELL, I THINK WE'RE BOTH A LITTLE BIT. THIS IS MAC MCWILLIAMS. HE'S OUR ENGINEER. AND ON THIS PARTICULAR PHASE RIGHT HERE WITH WHAT GOES THIS AND THIS PAGE, THEN I'LL COME BACK AND TALK ABOUT THE STEP PAGE.
ALL RIGHT. GO BACK. SO THE NEXT GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS MAC MCWILLIAMS AND I AM WITH MATRIX EQUITIES. AND SO OUR PHASING PLAN THAT WE HAVE THAT INCLUDES ALL OF OUR RETAIL PAD SITES AND ALL OF OUR UTILITIES AND EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO TO INSTALL.
SO THAT IT DOES MAKE FOR OUR PAD READY RETAIL SITE.
SO I'M JUST GOING TO RUN THROUGH THESE REAL QUICK.
SO MATRIX WILL MAKE IMPROVEMENTS TO WICKER, WICKER HILL ROAD, THE STATE HIGHWAY 174 TO ALLEVIATE TRAFFIC AND WORKING IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE CITY AND TXDOT.
TXDOT HAS SOME IMPROVEMENTS THAT THEY'RE DOING TO 174.
WE SUBMITTED A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS, AND IN THAT ANALYSIS, IT SHOWED THAT WE NEED TO BUILD ABOUT 300 LINEAR FEET FROM WILSHIRE IN WICKER HILL ROAD, THE FOUR LANE CONCRETE ROAD THAT WILL HAVE AS YOU'RE ON WILSHIRE OR WICKER HILL ROAD APPROACHING WILSHIRE, THERE WILL BE A RIGHT TURN LANE AND A LEFT TURN LANE.
SO THIS SHOULD HELP ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE TRAFFIC CONGESTION.
AND THEN ALSO COMING INTO THE SITE, THERE WILL BE A RIGHT HAND TURN LANE.
AND THEN ON THE, ON WILSHIRE TAKES OUT HIS BUILDING, A LEFT TURN, LEFT HAND TURN LANE ONTO WICKER HILL ROAD. MATRIX IS ALSO GOING TO BRING IN WATER AND SANITARY SEWER FRANCHISE UTILITIES TO SERVE THE SERVE THE ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT, BUT ALSO PART OF OUR PHASING PLAN TO SERVE ALL THE RETAIL PAD SITES.
THERE WILL THERE WILL BE A SERIES OF RETAINING WALLS.
ON AN EXHIBIT, IT'S KIND OF HARD TO SEE. YEAH.
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SO YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. SO THIS IS PART OF THE PHASING PLAN.IF YOU SEE NUMBER ONE THERE, THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE A COLLECTOR ROAD THERE.
THAT'S WHERE ALL OF OUR WATER AND SEWER FRANCHISE UTILITIES DRAINAGE IS GOING TO GO INTO THAT COLLECTOR ROADWAY THAT SERVES ALL THE DEVELOPMENT, BUT IT'S ALSO GOING TO SERVE EACH ONE OF THE PAD SITES.
SO WHEN A WHEN A DEVELOPER COMES IN TO BUY ONE OF THE PAD SITES AND DEVELOP IT.
THEY'LL HAVE ALL THE UTILITIES THERE. NUMBER TWO THERE.
THESE ARE RETAINING WALLS. SO THERE'S FROM LEFT TO RIGHT.
THERE'S ABOUT 70FT OF FALL. IN THE SITE FROM ONE END TO THE OTHER.
SO IN ORDER TO, TO BUILD THE PAD SIZE SO THAT THEY'RE PAD READY, WE WILL NEED TO BUILD A SERIES OF RETAINING WALLS TO BE ABLE TO STEP DOWN FROM ONE END TO THE OTHER. SO THESE WILL BE NICE STONE RETAINING WALLS THAT WILL BUILD WITH OUR FIRST WITH OUR FIRST PHASE.
IT'LL BE A FOUR LANE ROADWAY. AND THEN NUMBER FOUR THERE, JUST RIGHT ABOVE THAT THAT'S A TRANSITION SECTION THAT WE'RE GOING TO PUT IN. IT'S ABOUT 200 LINEAR FEET. IT GOES FROM THE END WHERE THE CONCRETE IS.
NUMBER FIVE IS A TRAFFIC SIGNAL THAT WE'RE PUTTING IN.
THERE'S SEVERAL ENTITIES THAT'S PUTTING MONEY INTO THIS TXDOT IS PUTTING MONEY INTO IT, AND MATRIX IS PUTTING IN MONEY TO BUILD THAT TRAFFIC SIGNAL. SIX AND SEVEN ALONG WILSHIRE BOULEVARD.
AND LET'S SEE. NUMBER EIGHT IS WHERE TXDOT IS BUILDING THE LEFT TURN LANE ONTO WORKER HILL ROAD.
AND THEN FINALLY THE NUMBER NINE IS TXDOT IS GOING TO BE BUILDING A RIGHT TURN LANE OFF OF WILSHIRE THAT WILL GET YOU INTO WICKER HILL ROAD. SO BEFORE I SIT DOWN, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT UTILITIES OR INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE'RE PUTTING IN OR ROAD IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE'RE DOING OR.
NOPE. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. YEAH. CLASS DISMISSED.
SO IF YOU TURN BACK A PAGE TO ALL THE DIFFERENT COMPONENTS OF WHAT WE'LL BE DOING TO BUILD IT OUT, THE BOTTOM RIGHT PARAGRAPH IS THE BASIS FOR THE STIPULATION THAT WE'LL PUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN FOR THE RETAIL, AND WE'LL HAVE A HOLD ON OCCUPANCY OF OUR BUILD FOR RENT APARTMENT OF OUR TOWNHOME PROJECT.
AND WE'VE ALREADY DRAFTED UP A STIPULATION DOCUMENT THAT HAS BEEN CIRCULATED.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S WITH HIM NOW? YES. OKAY.
SO, TONY, YOU GUYS HAVE THE STIPULATION? YES.
THE CITY ATTORNEY DID PROVIDE THOSE STIPULATIONS TO THE COUNCIL.
OH, GOOD. OKAY. WE'RE GOOD WITH THAT STIPULATION.
LANGUAGE THAT'S BEEN WORKED THROUGH. SO THAT'S OUR AFFIRMATION THAT WE'LL BE DOING THAT.
AND WITH THAT, WE CAN MOVE FORWARD, BUILD IT.
AND THAT'S OUR PRESENTATION. THANKS FOR LISTENING.
SORRY, IT'S A LITTLE LABORIOUS, BUT I THINK IT WAS IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE YOU REALIZED WE PAID ATTENTION AND LISTENED TO WHAT YOU GUYS WANTED TO HAVE AND HOW IT WORKED, AND I THINK WE ACHIEVED THAT. SO AT THIS POINT, IF YOU HAVE ANY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, WE'D BE GLAD TO ADDRESS THEM.
LARRY, WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO CHANGE THE WORDING ON THE ZONE B AREA TO LIMIT THAT TO TWO STORIES, RATHER THAN HAVING THE ABILITY TO GO TO THREE? YES. AND WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO CAP THAT AT SIX CONSECUTIVE UNITS AND NOT EIGHT? YES. ALSO ON ZONE C ON THE RENTAL PORTION YOU SHOW THAT AS BEING ONE STORY.
SO I ASSUME YOU'D BE WILLING TO CODIFY THAT IN WRITING, THAT IT WOULD ONLY BE A ONE STORY PRODUCT.
I THINK IT IS WRITTEN, BUT. YES. OKAY. AND WOULD YOU LIMIT YOURSELF TO SIX UNITS ON THAT PRODUCT?
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YES, I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU'VE GOT DRAWN. YES.SO THE HARD LESSON I LEARNED FROM A PREVIOUS PROJECT AROUND HERE WAS TO MAKE SURE YOU GET IT ALL IN WRITING AT THE START, BECAUSE THINGS TEND TO GET SLIPPERY AS YOU'RE GETTING.
I UNDERSTAND WE'RE GOOD WITH THOSE. ON FURTHER INTO IT.
AND I HAVE A QUESTION FOR TONY. YES, SIR. TONY, ON YOUR DEPICTION OF THE COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL MASTER PLAN OR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN? THE BROWN AREA WAS ONE OF YOUR FIRST SLIDES.
SORRY, I DON'T REMEMBER WHICH ONE. LET ME JUST LEAVE OUT OF THIS PRESENTATION SECOND.
WELL, I CAN TALK ABOUT IT. YOU DON'T REALLY NEED TO PUT IT UP ON THE SCREEN, BUT YOUR AREAS THAT ARE SHOWN AS COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL TAKE IN THIS ENTIRE PIECE OF PROPERTY. YES, SIR. BUT IMMEDIATELY BEHIND THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY IS DEPICTED IN YELLOW.
IS THAT NEIGHBORHOOD? WHAT IS THE WHAT? LET ME GO TO THE SCREEN AND I APOLOGIZE.
THAT IS NEIGHBORHOOD. THAT'S NEIGHBORHOODS. OKAY.
SO ESSENTIALLY, IF WE WERE TO AGREE TO THIS PLAN DEVELOPMENT, WE'D BASICALLY JUST BE MOVING THAT BOUNDARY LINE FROM NEIGHBORHOODS, BECAUSE NEIGHBORHOODS INCLUDE THE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT THAT'S RESIDENTIAL ON THIS.
YES SITE PLAN OR WHATEVER YOU CALL IT. SO WE'D BE MOVING THAT LINE DIVIDING THE COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL FROM THE NEIGHBORHOODS, JUST MOVING IT WITHIN, WHAT, 300FT? WHAT'S THE DEPTH OF THE RETAIL COMPONENT? I FORGOT, AS PROPOSED ON THEIR SITE PLAN, AND THAT HOW MUCH DEPTH ARE YOU ALL PROPOSING COMMERCIAL DEPTH ON YOUR SITE PLAN ON YOUR RETAIL COMPONENT WOULD 200FT, 50FT OKAY, 250FT. AND YOU MADE A COMMENT EARLIER THAT EXPECTING RETAIL DEVELOPMENT TO GO TO THAT FULL DEPTH OF THE PROPERTY WOULD BE VERY UNLIKELY, BECAUSE THE PROPERTIES OFF WILSHIRE PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE PERCEIVED AS BEING WORTH RETAIL DEVELOPMENT. OKAY. I THINK THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAD RIGHT NOW.
IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE? OKAY. I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 6:58, AND I'M GOING TO PUT IT UP FOR A MOTION. WE'VE GOT SOME DISCUSSION.
I THINK I WAS WAITING FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING TO BE CLOSED.
I HAVE A STATEMENT FROM COUNCIL MEMBER SCOTT, AND SO I'LL READ THAT HE ASKED ME.
SO, COUNCIL MEMBER SCOTT IS NOT IN ATTENDANCE TONIGHT.
HE'LL BE OUT FOR THE NEXT FEW MEETINGS, BUT HE DID ASK ME TO READ A STATEMENT FOR HIM.
SHOULD OUR PERSONAL VIEWS INFLUENCE THIS DECISION TONIGHT, OR SHOULD WE RELY ON THE ORDINANCES AND COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CREATED BY THE CITIZENS OF BURLESON AND CODIFIED BY THE BURLESON CITY COUNCIL TO GUIDE YOUR DECISION? IF AN OPINION DOES NOT ALIGN WITH THE CITY'S CODES AND COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, IT MUST UNDERGO THE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS TO BE INCORPORATED INTO THE CITY'S FRAMEWORK.
IT DOES SOUND LIKE LARRY, DOESN'T IT? SO WE MUST ONLY WEAR ONE HAT TONIGHT.
THAT HAT IS A IS ONE WITH A BT LOGO OVER THE BILL.
OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN HAS BEEN UNDERMINED AND DIMINISHED RECENTLY.
THE CITIZENS OF BURLESON HAVE ATTENDED FIVE TOWN HALL MEETINGS TO CREATE THE 2010 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHICH UNDERWENT A MID-TERM UPDATE BY THE CITIZENS IN 2020.
A THOROUGH AND SUSTAINABLE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS DESIGNED TO LAST 20 YEARS.
WE MUST SERVE THE CITIZENS AND HONOR THEIR WISHES.
THE COMMERCIAL ELEMENT IS THE ONLY PORTION OF THIS APPLICATION THAT MEETS THE PLAN, AND THERE IS NO INCENTIVE TO DEVELOP IT WITHOUT THE PHASING ATTACHED TO THE RESIDENTIAL COMPONENTS. THE SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED ZONING FOR THE TOWNHOMES DOES NOT ALIGN WITH THE COMP PLAN, WHICH MANDATES THAT THIS PROPERTY BE ZONED AS COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL.
PHASING IS CRUCIAL FOR THE CITY TO ENSURE A BALANCED GROWTH PATTERN THAT HARMONIZES COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL AREAS, HELPING AVOID THE PROBLEMS ASSOCIATED WITH THE OVERCONCENTRATION OF EITHER DEVELOPMENT.
BY PHASING IN COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT ALONGSIDE RESIDENTIAL AREAS, THE CITY CAN GENERATE JOBS AND REVENUE BEFORE RESIDENTIAL ZONES ARE FULLY DEVELOPED, PROVIDING RESIDENTS. HOWEVER, MANY DEVELOPERS OFTEN ARGUE AGAINST PHASING COMMITMENTS, OFFERING VARIOUS EXCUSES.
SECTION 62-71 OF THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN ADOPTION EFFECT ON EXISTING PLANS.
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THE IMAGINED BURLESON A ROADMAP TO 2030 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS REFERRED TO AS IMAGINED BURLESON PLAN APPROVED ON APRIL 19TH, 2010, AND AMENDED BY CITY ORDINANCE ON NOVEMBER 17TH, 2020, IS HEREBY ADOPTED AS THE GENERAL GUIDELINE FOR ALL DECISIONS MADE BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND THE CITY COUNCIL REGARDING RELATED EXISTING OR PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT OF THE CITY.THE CITY ATTACHED A PHASING COMPONENT BETWEEN THE COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL COMPONENTS.
FORT WORTH CITY COUNCIL AND ZONING COMMISSION HONORED CITIZENS WISHES BY ADHERING TO THE COMP PLAN, AND THIS WAS AN EXCELLENT EXAMPLE OF SERVING THE CITIZENS OPINIONS.
I'M COMPLETELY ASSURED THAT ALL THE ALL THE SUGGESTIONS ATTACHED TO THE APPLICATION BY STAFF ARE BASED ON CITY ORDINANCE. DEVELOPERS SOMETIMES TRY TO NEGOTIATE WITH COUNCIL DURING A PRESENTATION, CIRCUMVENTING STAFF AND ORDINANCE.
SHOULD WE NEGOTIATE FROM THE DAIS? REFLECTING ON OUR EXPERIENCES ON THE DAIS? STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS SHOULD ALWAYS BE A KEY CONSIDERATION.
BASED ON THEIR EXTENSIVE WORK. THE STAFF RECOMMENDED DISAPPROVING OF THE ORDINANCE FOR THE ZONING CHANGE, AND I CONCUR WITH THE RECOMMENDATION. I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THIS DEVELOPMENT'S DENSITY AND LONG TERM SUSTAINABILITY, AND I'M CONCERNED THAT THE CITY OF BURLINGTON'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DOES NOT SUPPORT IT.
THIS DEVELOPMENT IS LIKELY OPPORTUNISTIC FROM SPECIFIC PROFESSIONAL PERSPECTIVES.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. COUNCIL MEMBER LARRY SCOTT.
I MISS LARRY. GOOD LUCK LARRY. YOU'RE DOING GOOD, BUD? I DO HOPE THAT LARRY IS FEELING BETTER, BUT AS YOU WERE READING IT, I DID GO AND LOOK AT A COUPLE OF THINGS.
ONE, OUR POPULATION IN 2010 WAS 37,047, AND TODAY WE'RE SITTING AT 53 TO 54,000. AND GUESS WHAT? PEOPLE ARE MOVING IN EVERY DAY.
WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT PUTTING IN APARTMENTS AT THIS TIME.
THESE ARE TOWNHOMES. THESE ARE ONES THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO OWN.
THERE IS A DIFFERENCE. I FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO HAVE PLACES FOR PEOPLE TO LIVE, AND WE CAN USE SOME OF THAT TAX REVENUE, THE SALES TAX FROM THE COMMERCIAL PART, IF WE DON'T FULFILL THAT COMMERCIAL PART.
SO I FEEL LIKE AS FAR AS CIVIC, YOU KNOW, BEING A COUNCIL PERSON, I AM LOOKING OUT FOR THE CITY OF BURLESON AND THE FACT THAT THAT LAND CAN SIT THERE AND GROW WEEDS AND GRASS AND TREES ON IT, OR WE CAN UTILIZE IT AND PUT RETAIL IN.
THAT'S MY OPINION. ANYBODY ELSE? I DID APPRECIATE THAT DAN BROUGHT THE.
WE'RE JUST MOVING THAT UP A LITTLE BIT FURTHER, BUT ALSO.
GETTING A PRODUCT THAT WE KNOW IS A GAP THAT NEEDS TO BE FILLED IN THIS COMMUNITY.
WE'VE BRIEFLY KIND OF TALKED AROUND AFFORDABLE HOUSING, BUT IT'S REALLY HARD TO GET INTO HOMES NOW.
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DOWNSIZING. BUT I AM THE BASED ON THE DOCUMENTS THAT WE'VE SEEN AND THE CONVERSATIONS WE'VE HAD WITH THE DEVELOPER, THE COMMERCIAL PIECE. I'M NOT CONCERNED ABOUT IT GETTING FILLED.IT'S ON 174. THOSE THINGS ARE GOING TO MOVE. BUT YOU ARE LANDSCAPING IT.
YOU ARE MAINTAINING IT, AND IT'S TO YOUR ADVANTAGE TO MOVE THOSE, BECAUSE WHO'S GOING TO WANT TO MOVE IN TO A PROPERTY THAT ON THE FRONT, YOU KNOW, BEFORE YOU ENTER IT IT'S DISHEVELED AND LOOKS LIKE RUBBLE.
SO I'M GOING TO HOLD YOU TO THAT, KEEPING IT.
WELL, AND I BELIEVE THAT ONCE YOU HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND I THINK IT'S GOING TO MOVE. I YOU KNOW, THERE ARE TIMES WHEN WE WENT OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS SINCE I'VE SAT ON THIS COUNCIL WHERE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN NEEDING TO BE REVAMPED AND LOOKED AT.
AND THINKING BACK ON, I THINK, IN MY CONVERSATIONS WITH WITH THE OWNER, I THINK YEARS AND YEARS AGO THERE WERE OTHER PLANS. THIS WAS GOING TO BE MORE OF A CITY CENTER, KIND OF WHAT JOHN JONES LOOKS LIKE.
AND THOSE THINGS MOVED OR TRANSITIONED. AND SO HAVING THE EXPECTING THIS DEEP OF A PROPERTY TO ALL BE COMMERCIAL, I JUST DON'T THINK IS REALISTIC. I DEFINITELY THINK THE FRONT END AND THE OPPORTUNITY FOR LIGHT RETAIL AND THE THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, AND I HOPE WE CAN GET FILLED THERE, I JUST, I BECAUSE IT'S ON 174 AND IT'S PROPERTY.
WICKER HILLS GROWING JOSHUA ISD'S BUILDING AN ELEMENTARY DOWN THAT ROAD.
SO IT'S GOING TO GROW AND IT'S GOING TO MOVE FAST.
PEOPLE WANT THE OPPORTUNITY TO OWN SOMETHING AND HAVE SOMETHING FOR THEIR OWN. AND AS LONG AS MR. MCCLENDON SAID, AS LONG AS WE HAVE THINGS IN WRITING AND WE CAN GUARANTEE THAT WHAT WE ARE HEARING IS THE PRODUCT THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET, THAT IT WILL BE KEPT UP, THAT IT'S GOING TO BE A PLACE THAT PEOPLE WANT TO LIVE BECAUSE OF ITS AMENITIES, BECAUSE OF HOW IT'S MAINTAINED AND BUILT. THOSE ARE ALL POSITIVES FOR THIS COMMUNITY, AND WE WANT PEOPLE WHO ARE LIVING HERE TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN BE PROUD OF.
SURE. THIS IS FROM THIS IS FROM ME, NOT FROM LARRY.
SO THIS ON MY COMMENTS. FIRST, I APPRECIATE THE DEVELOPER WANTING TO MEET WITH ME.
AND I UNDERSTAND COUNCILMEMBER SCOTT'S CONCERNS ABOUT NEGOTIATING FROM THE DAIS.
AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S IF THERE'S A DEAL THERE THAT THERE'S MINOR CHANGES THAT ARE GOING TO BE MADE, THEN THAT'S THE TIME. THAT'S THE TIME TO DO IT. I THINK SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN ASKED TONIGHT ARE APPRECIATED.
I THINK IT'S A LITTLE TOO MUCH TO DO IT ON THE FLY WITHOUT GETTING IT IN WRITING BEFORE WE APPROVE IT, BECAUSE WE'RE APPROVING IT AND RELYING THAT THAT THOSE CHANGES ARE GOING TO BE IN THERE AND THEN IT'S DONE. I MEAN, IT'S ALREADY DONE. WE'VE ALREADY APPROVED IT. SO, SO THE CONCERNS THAT I HAD, AND I KNOW YOU ALL HAVE ADDRESSED SOME ALREADY WAS IT'S A BASE ZONING OF SFA, WHICH HAS A MAX LIMIT OF TWO AND A HALF STORIES.
IT DOESN'T HAVE A HEIGHT LIMIT IN THE ORDINANCE, BUT THESE ARE ONE STORY BUT A 30 FOOT HEIGHT LIMIT, WHICH IS LIKE A THREE STORY BUILDING. AND ZONE B THAT'S FOR ZONE C AND THEN ZONE B.
IT MENTIONS IN THERE THREE STORY, WHICH I KNOW THEY AGREED TO. Y'ALL AGREED TO TWO STORY, BUT THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT IS 40FT, WHICH IS A FOUR STORY BUILDING. I MEAN, IT COULD BE AND YOU KNOW, WITHOUT THESE CHANGES, SEE COMING FROM P AND Z AND I'VE EXPLAINED THIS IN MEETINGS BEFORE IS THE WAY THAT IT'S WRITTEN ON PAPER.
WELL, THEY DON'T HAVE TO ABIDE BY ANYTHING THAT WAS SAID AT THE AT THE MEETING. THEY'RE GOING TO GO EXACTLY WITH WHAT'S IN THE PD, AND YOU'VE GOT THREE STORY BUILDINGS AT 40FT HIGH AND EIGHT TOGETHER. NOW, ME PERSONALLY DRIVING UP THE TOLL ROAD, I KNOW THERE'S SOME SIMILAR PRODUCTS.
THOSE ARE FOUR BUILDINGS, FOUR UNITS TOGETHER IN A BUILDING.
I WOULD PREFER TO SEE FOUR RATHER THAN SIX. SIX SEEMS STILL KIND OF TOO MANY TOGETHER IN MY OPINION.
YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, THE RENDERINGS CAN BE ONE THING, BUT THE RENDERINGS AREN'T ATTACHED TO THE PD. THERE'S NO THERE'S NO EXHIBIT. PLEASE SEE RENDERINGS. IT'S JUST WHAT'S IN IN THE PD. SO I THINK THAT THERE IS I THINK WE CAN COME TO AN AGREEMENT.
I JUST DON'T WANT TO APPROVE IT TONIGHT AS PRESENTED.
I THINK WE'RE WILLING TO PUSH THIS THING FORWARD.
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SO AS IT'S PRESENTED RIGHT NOW, EVEN WITH THE CHANGES, I WOULD I'M NOT GOING TO SUPPORT IT.BUT IF WE'RE WILLING TO, LET'S PUT IT BACK TOGETHER.
IS THAT A POSSIBILITY LARRY? YOU TALK. DO I NEED TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING UP AGAIN? YEAH. GO AHEAD, SIR. HE'S THE DEVELOPER, SO HE'S SPEAKING AS THE APPLICANT.
COME ON UP, LARRY. I'M AGREEING WITH ADAM ON THIS.
IT'S. YOU KNOW, WE'RE MAKING A LOT OF CHANGES HERE.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE DRAWING. SO AT THIS POINT, IF I CAN RECALL ONE BY ONE THE DIFFERENT THINGS YOU BROUGHT UP. ADAM. FIRST OF ALL, GOING TO FOUR FROM SIX DOES NOT WORK.
WHAT I'VE DONE IS I'VE DESIGNED THIS PRODUCT SUCH THAT IT ACCEPTS A 223F HUD TAKE OUT LONG TERM.
SIX DOES. THAT'S WHY I HESITATED. YES, SIX CAN WORK ON FOR RENT, APARTMENT OR TOWNHOME PRODUCT.
I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT, AND I'VE DONE THAT MANY TIMES IN MY CAREER, AND I THINK WE HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE HERE THAT PROBABLY KNOW HOW TO DO IT, THAT WE COULD GET A QUICK LITTLE BIT OF ADVICE ON THE STIPULATIONS TO SATISFY YOU AND MAKE YOU COMFORTABLE THAT WE'RE NOT PLAYING A GAME WITH A HIGHER HEIGHT PROJECT, BUT LOOK DUMB BECAUSE IT'S TOO HIGH.
NO PROBLEM. AND I'M SURE WE COULD CRAFT A STIPULATION SIMPLE TONIGHT TO MAKE THAT WORK.
NO I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ON THE ON THE FUNDING PART.
IT'S A PREPONDERANCE WHICH IS 50 PLUS 51% BASICALLY NOW IS THAT OF THE TOTAL UNITS.
SO IF THERE'S 100 UNITS, 51 HAVE TO BE IN SIXPLEXES.
I KNOW THAT THE MATH DOESN'T WORK, BUT IS THAT HOW IT IS OR YOU'VE GOT.
THEY'RE BACK LIKE LITTLE BUSY BEES WORKING WITH THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE THAT WORK. AND WHAT WE'VE HEARD IS THAT IT WOULD BE A PREPONDERANCE OF FOURPLEXES IN ORDER TO GET THE 223 FINANCING TO TAKE OUT.
AND FOR ME, THAT'S KEY FOR US. PREPONDERANCE OF FOURPLEXES OR SIXPLEXES? THEY'RE MOVING TO SIX. THEY'RE MOVING TO SIX.
BECAUSE IF IT'S A PREPONDERANCE AND LET'S SAY YOU'VE GOT TEN BUILDINGS, SIX OF THEM CAN BE SIX PLEX OR TEN, TEN GROUPS OF BUILDINGS. YOU CAN HAVE SIX AS SIXPLEXES AND YOU CAN HAVE FOUR AS FOURPLEXES.
THAT'S PREPONDERANCE. PROBABLY. SO. PROBABLY I THINK I THINK THERE IS A WE CAN WORK THIS OUT.
I JUST FEEL LIKE WE'RE MAKING TOO MANY CHANGES ON THE FLY, TOO MANY STIPULATIONS. I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE A VERY CAPABLE STAFF AND GET IT DONE. BUT ONCE WE VOTE YES, IF WE VOTE YES, IT'S DONE. SO IF STUFF DOESN'T GET PUT IN, THEN IT'S OVER.
WE CAN'T SAY. OH, WELL, THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE IN THERE.
WELL, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, I THINK THE CHANGE, IF YOU WANT TO GO FROM A SIX TO A FOUR ON SOME OF THE UNITS, I'D PROBABLY PREFER FOUR. TWO, FRANKLY. BUT I WANT TO HAVE ENOUGH TO MAKE IT WORK FOR THE FOR THE 2 TO 3 TAKEOUT.
I MEAN, I'M SURE THERE'S SOME LANGUAGE THAT COULD BE PUT IN THE PD THAT SAYS A PREPONDERANCE OF THE COMPLEXES HAVE TO BE, YOU KNOW, BUT I WOULD WANT TO DEFINE THAT BECAUSE TO ME THE PREPONDERANCE IS IT'S 50 PLUS ONE.
IT'S 51%. SO WELL FROM MY PERSPECTIVE. IF I COULD DO FOURPLEXES ON ALL OF THEM, WHICH IS WHAT I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE TO BEGIN WITH, I'D PREFER THAT. SO I'M DOING SOMETHING I DON'T REALLY PREFER, BUT I NEED TO DO.
SO AS MANY FOURPLEXES AS WE CAN GET, WE'D PROBABLY DO THAT.
RIGHT NOW WE'RE AT SIX BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT IT'S GOING TO. AND OTHER THAN THAT, I THINK WE'RE I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE THAT, THAT I HAVE AN ISSUE WITH. AS LONG AS WE CAN STIPULATE TO THE HEIGHTS ONE AND TWO STORY, I'VE GOT NO PROBLEM WITH THAT.
SO MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE IF WE COULD BRING THIS BACK ON THE THIRD ONE MORE TIME.
WE'VE ALREADY CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING. EVERYTHING IS CLOSED, BUT WE CAN GET THIS DONE, MAKE THE CHANGES, AND THEN PRESENT IT AND APPROVE IT OR DENY IT.
CONTINUE IT TO THE THIRD. OKAY. SPEAKING OF THE CHANGES, I'M GOING TO ASK OUR CITY ATTORNEY IF WE DO MAKE THESE CHANGES VERBALLY AND MAKE THEM A PART CONDITION OF THE MOTIONS TO APPROVE OR DISAPPROVE, THEN THAT BECOMES A PART OF THE AGREEMENT,
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CORRECT? THAT'S GOING TO BE ON THE RECORD. HOWEVER, THAT'S JUST ONE.THE OTHER ONE IS THE RIGHT BUTTON. THERE YOU GO. NOW YOU'RE ALIVE. YES.
IF YOU MADE IT PART OF THE MOTION, IT WOULD BE SORRY IF YOU MADE PART OF THE MOTION.
AND IT WAS CLEARLY ENUNCIATED AND WE WERE. THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE ORDINANCE WHEN IT IS FINALLY DRAFTED. OKAY. AND IF IT DIDN'T GET IN THERE, THAT WOULD BE OUR FAULT FOR NOT FOLLOWING YOUR DIRECTIONS.
AND WE DON'T WANT TO DO THAT. SO WE'LL WE WILL BE FOLLOWING YOUR DIRECTIONS AND I'M OKAY WITH THAT.
AND IN ADDITION TO THE STIPULATIONS, WE HAD DRAFTED ALREADY ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE INSTALLATION, THEN WE'RE GOOD. I MIGHT WANT TO NOTE WE WANT IT TO BE CLEAR, THOUGH, IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT BECAUSE PREPONDERANCE IS YOU ARE RIGHT IS NOT A GOOD WORD. YOU WOULD WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR WHAT WE ARE EXPECTING FOR SIX UNITS AND FOUR UNITS.
SO WE SAY A MAXIMUM OF 60% IS SIX UNITS. AND THE REST HAVE TO BE FOUR UNIT BUILDINGS, FOUR OR LESS, FOUR OR LESS RIGHT TO MAKE. I CAN LIVE WITH THAT.
THAT HITS MY PREPONDERANCE. RIGHT. SO I THINK WE SET IT AT 60%.
THAT WAY YOU GET A NICE CUSHION OF THE SIX UNITS.
BUT I WOULD LIKE THAT TO APPLY TO BOTH ZONES B AND C, WHICH IS THE FOR RENT AND THE FOR SALE.
OR ARE YOU ALL OKAY WITH THE SIX ON THE FOR RENT.
YEAH. 600 FOR RENT AND 600 FOR RENT. BUT WE CAN LIVE WITH THAT.
BUT THE PREPONDERANCE FOR THE FOR RENT? NO, ON THE FOR SALE.
I DON'T WANT A PREPONDERANCE. THEY MIGHT DO ALL SIX UNITS.
YOU WANT SIX UNITS ON THE FOR SALE. ON THE FOR SALE? FOR SURE. SEE I LIKE FOUR ON THE FOR SALE.
YEAH. NOT IT'S ACTUALLY NOT MY PRODUCT. IT'S SOMEONE ELSE THAT CAME AND DID DESIGN THAT.
SO WHEN I SOLD THOUSANDS OF LOTS TO. AND THEY HAVE REAL GOOD SUCCESS.
IT'S REALLY WELL TAKEN, REAL WELL LIKED. SO I REALLY DON'T WANT TO MESS WITH HIS PROGRAM.
MIGHT LOSE A BUYER. I UNDERSTAND, BUT YOU'RE AGREEING.
YOU'RE AGREEING FOR HIM TO GO FROM 3 TO 2 STORIES.
NO, HE WAS ONLY TWO TO BEGIN WITH. IN THE IN THE ORDINANCE, IT SAYS THREE.
YEAH. SO WE SCREWED UP. OKAY. I MEAN, I'M NOT TRYING TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT, BUT, I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT IT IS AND WHAT IT IS IN THERE. WHEN I HIT, WHEN I HEARD THAT, I GO, WHY? WE'RE NOT GONNA DO THREE STORY. LET'S DO THIS.
I'M AGREEING WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON, AND THERE'S SO MUCH TALK GOING ON.
I WOULD LIKE TO GET THE STAFF GIVE YOU TIME TO GET THIS DONE TO THE NEXT MEETING.
IS THAT POSSIBLE? IT'S POSSIBLE FOR US. IS SEEMS TO BE SOMETHING THEY CAN TURN AROUND.
WE DO HAVE DOG PARK AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE ANY DIMENSIONAL STANDARDS. I SAY THAT BECAUSE IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DETAILS, I DON'T WANT THAT DETAIL TO GO UNNOTICED. I THINK THAT THAT'S FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT FOR MOST OF YOU ALL.
SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE TEAM IS AWARE, BUT THAT THAT TYPE OF DETAIL.
I'M ASSUMING THE COUNCIL ALSO WANTS TO SEE WHAT DO YOU EXPECT TO SEE IN TERMS OF LINEAR FEET OF SIDEWALKS OR BENCHES OTHER THAN PER THE SITE PLAN? THE SITE PLAN IS NOT DIMENSIONED, BUT I'M PUTTING THAT OUT THERE BECAUSE I DON'T WANT THEM TO WORK ON IT.
AND THEN THE QUESTION COME UP LATER THAT WHAT ABOUT THIS? I PREFER TO GIVE THEM SOME MARCHING ORDERS FROM YOU.
AND STAFF IS MORE THAN WILLING TO DO WHATEVER THE WILL OF THE COUNCIL IS.
BUT FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE, I WOULD CAUTION TO MAKE TOO MANY CHANGES ON THE FLY FOR US NOT TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW IT FROM THE CITY'S END, TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NOTHING THAT'S MISSING.
AND IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE REALLY BIG BECAUSE IT WASN'T DEFINED IN THE PD.
SO JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT. MAYOR COUNCIL, I'M THINKING ABOUT THE TIMELINE AND INTERNAL CONTROLS. I THINK WE MAY ALREADY BE BEYOND THE FEBRUARY MEETING IN TERMS OF PUTTING SOMETHING TOGETHER,
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IF MY MEMORY SERVES ME CORRECT, MR. CITY MANAGER.WITH THAT SAID, WE WOULD POST NEXT WEDNESDAY SO THAT DOESN'T GET THE THIRD.
DOES NOT GIVE US A LOT OF TIME TO GO THROUGH CHANGES.
OKAY. OKAY, SO I NEED. I THINK I THINK WE'VE, I THINK WE'RE CAPABLE OF GETTING WHERE WE NEED TO GET TONIGHT.
I'D ACTUALLY PREFER THAT SINCE ROB ISN'T HERE AND I'VE GOT TO GO BACK.
AND MOTHER, MAY I GET MORE TIME TO CLOSE? YEAH.
CAN I CLARIFY? IT WILL BE ENFORCED IF IT'S CLEAR.
WHERE DO YOU STAND ON THIS, TONY? DO YOU ARE YOU THINK YOU HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION TO GET THIS DONE.
I MAY BE FINE WITH WHAT THEY PROVIDE TO ME. YOU MAY NOT BE FINE.
WHAT WAS ULTIMATELY PROVIDED. SO I'M JUST CONCERNED BECAUSE IF SOME OF YOU HAVE A PARTICULAR INTEREST IN THE OVERALL SIZE OF A PARK FEATURE, I CAN'T PROVIDE THAT TO YOU. AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT THE CITY MANAGER OR STAFF MAKING THAT DECISION AFTER THE FACT.
IF THAT'S FINDING YOU, THAT'S NOT YOUR FOCAL POINT.
WE WILL ACCEPT THE WILL OF THE COUNCIL. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT ULTIMATELY, WHEN YOU MAKE YOUR DECISION, WHETHER IT'S TONIGHT OR ANOTHER DATE, YOU HAVE SOME COMFORT LEVEL AS TO WHAT YOU ULTIMATELY APPROVE AND WHAT YOU CAN EXPECT TO SEE.
WE HAVE WE HAVE HAD SOME MISFIRES WITH PARKS AND OPEN SPACE.
LARRY, I HAVE SOMETHING THAT OUR SITE PLAN IS IN WRITING.
WE'VE GOT THE DOG PARK LAID OUT, WE'VE GOT THE UNITS LAID OUT.
WE'VE GOT ALL THIS LAID OUT ALREADY. IF WE MODIFY IT BY A FOOT, I DON'T THINK THAT'S SUBSTANTIALLY, MATERIALLY CHANGING IT. BUT IT'S GOT TO BE SUBSTANTIALLY THE SAME AS WHAT'S RIGHT THERE.
SO YOU HAVE IT RIGHT NOW. SO IT ISN'T LIKE WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A 16 BY 18 DOG PARK AND MAKE IT 4X4.
SO I THINK WE HAVE THAT AND WE'RE NOT PLAYING A GAME.
WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE IT WORK. GO AHEAD. CAN I RUN THROUGH A LITTLE LIST I'VE BEEN KIND OF WORKING ON HERE, AND LET'S SEE IF EVERYBODY'S CONCERNS GET TOUCHED, IF I'VE MISSED SOMETHING.
OKAY. ARE YOU READY? ALL RIGHT. GO AHEAD. I'M SORRY.
THIS IS THIS IS FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS.
MAYOR. I'M SORRY. I WANT TO MAKE SURE IF WE DO TRY TO MAKE THIS WITH A MOTION TONIGHT, THAT EVERYBODY IS CRYSTAL CLEAR ON WHAT WE'RE REQUIRING BY MAKING THE STIPULATION. SO LET ME GO BACK. STIPULATIONS AS FAR AS ZONE B, THAT THOSE WOULD BE LIMITED TO TWO STORIES, THAT THEY WOULD BE LIMITED TO SIX CONTIGUOUS UNITS.
WOULD YOU REDUCE THE 40 FOOT HEIGHT ON THE BILL TO OWN TO 30 AND REDUCE THE 30 TO 20? WOULD THAT GET US THERE OR IS THAT TOO MUCH. AND I NEED PROFESSIONAL.
ONE STORY, ONE STORY. I MEAN, THE ONLY WAY WE CAN DO IT ANY HIGHER IS TO MAKE THE ROOF MORE PEAK.
RIGHT. THE BIGGER PITCH. THAT'S IT. I DON'T YEAH.
SO. SO TO ALLOW FOR THE PITCH, I THINK ON A TWO STORY, YOU COULD DO 30FT.
OKAY. AND THE ONE STORY TO 20FT IS THAT I'M GOING TO 32 AND 30 ON THE TWO STORY 20 ON
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ONE. I'M FINE WITH THAT. OKAY. SO LET ME LET ME GO ON THEN.SO FAR I'VE GOT ON ZONE BE LIMITED TO TWO STORIES LIMITED TO SIX CONTIGUOUS UNITS.
MAX HEIGHT MAXIMUM OF 30FT. OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE GOT ANYTHING ELSE ON THAT? ON ZONE A, THIS IS THE RENTAL PORTION LIMITED TO ONE STORY, PLEASE.
DID I GET THAT BACK? OKAY. LET'S SEE. I'M SORRY.
YES YOU'RE RIGHT. A IS RETAIL. GOOD CATCH. SO.
YEAH. RIGHT. SO ON ZONE C THAT WILL BE LIMITED TO ONE STORY.
IT WILL BE 60% SIX UNITS MAXIMUM. OKAY 60% OF THE UNITS WILL BE SIX UNIT CONTIGUOUS BUILDINGS OR LESS. CORRECT.
SIX OR LESS. AND THEN THE OTHER 40 WILL BE FOUR OR LESS.
THAT WOULD BE A MAXIMUM. YOU'D BE. THAT'S WHAT I SAID.
IT WAS ALL 100% FOR YOU. CORRECT. ABSOLUTELY.
YEAH. OKAY. SO LET ME MAKE SURE I GET THAT RIGHT.
SO A MINIMUM OF 40% WOULD BE FOUR UNITS OR LESS.
60% COULD BE SIX UNITS. CORRECT. A MAXIMUM OF 60% COULD BE 60 UNITS OR SIX UNITS OR LESS.
AND THE OTHER SIX UNITS ARE 60% OF SIX UNITS.
OKAY. AND THE REST? YOU HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE REST.
LESS THAN SIX UNITS. OKAY. I THINK WE CAN STILL DO THIS, BUT I JUST WANT TO SPECIFY IN THE 40% WHAT IT WHAT IT'S FOUR OR LESS. RIGHT. OKAY. I'M GOING TO I'M GOING TO TRY TO VOICE THIS.
OKAY. NOW AS FAR AS THE DIMENSIONS OF GREEN SPACE, DOG PARKS AND ALL THOSE THINGS, I THINK THE WORD SUBSTANTIAL CONFORMANCE IS PRETTY WELL SELF EXPLANATORY. IF IT MATCHES PRETTY CLOSE WHAT'S ON THIS PLAN? THAT'S NOT A LOT OF LEEWAY. LEGALLY, THAT IS A LEGAL TERM.
SO I THINK WE'RE THERE. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE? CAN WE ATTACH THIS AS AN EXHIBIT INTO THE PD? THERE IT IS. IT HAS TO BE. OKAY, GOOD. YEAH. THAT'S THE THING ABOUT PLANNED DEVELOPMENT.
ZONING. I MEAN, IT'S SUPPOSED TO GIVE US FLEXIBILITY, BUT IT ALSO GIVES US SOME FIRM GRIP ON WHAT WE'RE DOING, PROVIDED THAT WE WORD IT CORRECTLY. YEAH. SO HE'S GOING TO HAVE TO AMEND HIS SITE PLAN IF WE'RE CAPPING IT AT 60%.
OKAY. CAN. YOU SEE WHY I WANTED IT TO COME BACK? BUT, I MEAN, NO, I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND IT, BUT I'M ALSO SYMPATHETIC TO THE DEVELOPER.
HAVING PUT SO MUCH EFFORT INTO THIS, I HATE TO JUST KEEP PUSHING THEM BACK, PUSHING IT BACK. TIME IS MONEY, THESE GUYS. THIS IS A GOOD DEVELOPMENT. IT'S GOT A PRODUCT THAT WE NEED IN THE COMMUNITY.
I THINK IN MY OWN PARTICULAR OPINION, IT PRETTY MUCH MEETS THE OBJECTIVES SET FORTH IN THE EARLIER COMPREHENSIVE PLANS, BECAUSE IT PUTS THE RETAIL FACTOR ALONG THE FRONTAGE OF THE HIGHWAY.
IT PUTS THE NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT BEHIND THAT, SUBSTANTIALLY CONFORMING TO WHAT THE COUNCIL WANTED TO DO BACK IN 2010 AND REVISED AGAIN IN 2020. IT'S A MATTER OF DEGREE. IT'S A MATTER OF DEPTH, WHICH AS FAR AS FOR THE DRIVER GOING DOWN WILTSHIRE, THEY'RE GOING TO SEE THE RETAIL ONCE IT'S BUILT OUT.
THAT WAS THE WHOLE POINT. WE WOULDN'T WANT AN APARTMENT COMPLEX OUT ON THE FRONTAGE.
SO WE'VE GOT THE RETAIL. I HAVE NO DOUBT IN MY MIND THAT THE DEVELOPER IS MAKING SO MUCH COMMITMENT TO THE RETAIL STRIP THAT IT CAN'T REALLY BE ANYTHING ELSE ACCORDING TO THE ZONING THAT WE'RE SIGNING OFF ON. IF WE APPROVE THIS TONIGHT, IT WON'T BE ANYTHING ELSE UNLESS IT COMES BACK TO THE CITY COUNCIL, TO SOME SUBSEQUENT CITY COUNCIL FOR A CHANGE TO THE PD, AND THAT COUNCIL CAN DECIDE WHETHER IT WANTS TO ALLOW THE CHANGE OR CHANGE OR NOT.
WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT TONIGHT. WE'RE SAYING NO, IT CAN'T.
YOU HAVE TO MAKE A TRIP BACK DOWN HERE TO GET THAT DONE.
SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION ON THIS. AND I KNOW I'M GOING TO DRONE ON AND ON HERE IF I DON'T STOP.
BUT I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT.
I'M SORRY, MR. MAYOR. MAYOR PRO TEM, I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
YOU'VE GOT A SHADED AREA THAT I'M ASSUMING IS GOING TO BE SOFT SCAPE.
MY QUESTION IS, IS THAT GOING TO BE FULLY SODDED AND GRASSED AREA? I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COUNCIL IS VIEWING THAT AS LANDSCAPED AREAS.
AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S GOING TO BE FULLY LANDSCAPED.
IS THAT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO SEE? THE ANSWER IS YES.
OKAY. AND MY NEXT QUESTION IS THERE'S A LOT OF UNKNOWN WITH THE COMMERCIAL.
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YOU'RE SHOWING NINE PAD SITES. WHAT IS OUR MOTION GOING? WHAT IS YOUR MOTION COUNCIL GOING? I MEAN, ARE YOU GOING TO LOCK HIM IN AN IRON PAD SITES? IS THERE AN EXPECTATION, IF THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN, THAT THEY'RE GOING TO COME BACK TO CHANGE THE ZONING? I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN THEY AT THE CONCLUSION, THEY KNOW WHAT IS EXPECTED WITH THE COMMERCIAL COMPONENT, I DON'T WANT I DON'T WANT THEM TO SHOW SOMETHING.TONY. THE ZONING IS LIMITED TO SEVEN STANDALONE RETAIL PAD SITES PER THE PD.
OKAY. THANK YOU. WHICH IS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT'S THE SITE PLAN.
SO YOU KNOW, AT A CERTAIN POINT. SO THE SITE PLAN DOESN'T MATCH THE PD.
IF WE HAVE CIRCLE K OR 7-ELEVEN THAT WANTS THE TWO PAD THAT WE SEE TWO PADS ON THE FAR LEFT, BUT THEY WANT ONE BIGGER UNIT AND PROJECT. OR ON THE RIGHT, WE HAVE ONE KINDERCARE TYPE PROJECT THAT ENCOMPASSES TWO BUILDINGS.
WOULD THAT MATTER? I DON'T SEE WHY IT WOULD. THIS IS A ZONING ACTION TONIGHT.
BASICALLY SAYING THAT'S WHAT THAT PROPERTY IS ZONED AS.
WHO WANTS TO COME IN? HOW BIG IS IT? MAYBE THEY WANT TO TAKE TWO.
COMBINE IT. MAYBE THEY WANT TO I DON'T KNOW. WISH I KNEW.
YOU CAN'T TAILOR THE PAD SITES TO PEOPLE YOU DON'T HAVE YET.
SO. RIGHT, RIGHT. WE'LL DEAL WITH THAT. AND IF WE FIND OUT THAT WE NEED AN AMENDMENT TO THE PD TO ACCOMMODATE A PARTICULAR USER, WE CAN CONSIDER THAT DOWN THE ROAD. BUT FOR RIGHT NOW, WE'RE JUST LOCKING IN THE LAND USE.
SO ARE WE READY FOR A MOTION EVERYBODY? I'M GOING TO GIVE THEM MY BEST SHOT.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FOR APPROVAL OF THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT WITH THE FOLLOWING STIPULATIONS.
THAT THE AREA MARKED ON THE PD AS ZONE B WILL BE LIMITED TO TWO STORIES, WILL BE LIMITED TO SIX CONTIGUOUS UNITS, AND WILL BE LIMITED TO A HEIGHT OF 30FT OR LESS.
FURTHER ON ZONE C, THOSE BUILDINGS WILL BE LIMITED TO ONE STORY.
THEY WILL BE LIMITED TO A 20 FOOT MAXIMUM HEIGHT, AND NO MORE THAN 60% OF THE UNITS WILL BE IN CONTIGUOUS UNITS OF SIX. THE OTHER 40% WILL BE LESS THAN SIX. AND FURTHER ON THE ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT THAT DIMENSIONS OF OPEN AREAS, GREEN SPACE AND OTHER AMENITIES BE IN SUBSTANTIAL CONFORMANCE WITH THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT SHOWN TO THE COUNCIL TONIGHT.
IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE? CAN WE ATTACH THESE STIPULATIONS TO THE PD LIKE THESE STIPULATIONS WOULD BE DRAFTED, AND THAT THESE STIPULATIONS WILL BE DRAFTED AND THEN BECOME DRAFTED INTO AND BECOME A PART OF THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE.
AND THE WAY YOU STATED IT, I THINK YOU SAID IN ZONE B MAY BE LIMITED TO SIX UNITS.
I THINK WHAT YOU MEAN IS THEY WOULD BE LIMITED TO A MAXIMUM OF SIX UNITS.
THAT'S WHAT I INTENDED TO SAY, THAT THEY'D BE LIMITED TO A MAXIMUM OF SIX UNITS.
AND THE OTHER THING IS, DO WE WANT TO REQUIRE THE DEVELOPER TO.
REDRAFT THAT SITE PLAN SO THAT IT MEETS THE SPECIFICATIONS THAT WE HAVE SET FORTH AT THE MOMENT? I THINK WE DID THAT. WE'D STILL BE IN SUBSTANTIAL CONFORMANCE WITH THE PD.
THERE'S ALSO SOME ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE THAT WAS PROPOSED THAT WAS SENT AN EMAIL TO US ABOUT THE PHASING, WHICH IS ALL THIS. IT'S NOT WHAT'S IT'S NOT IN THE PD AT THIS TIME.
WE HAD TO AGREE TO THAT. THAT'S WHAT THEY PROPOSED, BUT IT'S NOT WHAT WAS PRESENTED.
OKAY. JUST PAUSE. THERE WE GO. I'M NOT DONE. RIGHT, RIGHT.
RIGHT. AND TO INCLUDE THE LANGUAGE. YEAH, I THINK THE ONLY REDLINING IS IN.
OH, SORRY. SORRY, SORRY. I THINK THE ONLY REDLINING IS IN O, PHASING.
IF MY BRAIN WAS A TAPE RECORDER, I'D PLAY THAT BACK.
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OKAY. THEN IT WILL INCLUDE THE LANGUAGE PRESENTED TO THE COUNCIL TONIGHT IN O.ITEM O. OKAY. IS THAT ENOUGH? I THINK SO. I'M LOOKING AT MATT, MAKING SURE HE'S HAPPY TOO.
OKAY. THUMBS UP FROM THE ATTORNEYS. YES. YOUR MOTION BUTTON.
I GOT A MOTION BY DAN AND A SECOND BY ALEXIS.
PLEASE VOTE. WE HAVE FIVE YESES AND ONE. NO. THANK YOU. OKAY. LET ME LEAVE IT ALONE. I'LL CLOSE IT OUT. DON'T MEDDLE.
THERE WE GO. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. THAT BRINGS US TO SECTION SEVEN GENERAL.
[Items 7.A. & 7.B.]
I BELIEVE SEVEN A AND SEVEN B WILL BE CALLED IN TOGETHER WITH ONE PRESENTATION.AM I CORRECT, MR. OSCARSSON? GREAT. 7A IS TO CONSIDER AND TAKE POSSIBLE ACTION ON A CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT FOR RFCSP 2025-001 CITY HALL RENOVATIONS WITH CITY CONTRACT CONTRACTORS INCORPORATED IN THE AMOUNT OF $777,777 FOR THE BASE BID AND $70,777 FOR THE ADD ALT FOR A TOTAL OF 848,554.
THE STAFF PRESENTER ON THAT IS ERIC OSCARSSON, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER, AND I BELIEVE MR. OSCARSSON IS ALSO GOING TO PRESENT ITEM B, WHICH IS TO CONSIDER AND TAKE POSSIBLE ACTION ON A CONTRACT WITH DATA PROJECTIONS VIA TIPS FOR ADVANCED TECHNOLOGY INTEGRATION, PROVIDING A FLEXIBLE MEETING AND WORKROOM SPACE WITH STREAMING CAPABILITIES AND ANNUAL SUPPORT FOR $131,953.32.
VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. AMANDA. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
THIS ISN'T AS EXCITING AS THAT PD ZONING CASE, SO I'LL GO THROUGH THIS REAL QUICK FOR YOU.
THIS. WELL WE'LL SEE. WE'LL GET THERE. WE'LL GET THERE.
SO A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND BACK IN 2022 WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS GOING ON THREE YEARS NOW.
CITY COUNCIL APPROVED A CONTRACT WITH BSW FOR A PROFESSIONAL SERVICE CONTRACT FOR THE RENOVATION OF CITY HALL THAT INCLUDED UPGRADES TO THE HVAC, A NEW HR AREA AND UPGRADING THE BATHROOMS. ON OCTOBER 16TH OF 23, COUNCIL REQUESTED STAFF TO AMEND THAT DESIGN AND TO ADJUST THE DESIGN OF THE CITY HALL RENOVATIONS TO INCLUDE A CITY, A NEW CITY COUNCIL WORK ROOM AND UPDATED OFFICE FOR THE CITY SECRETARY.
WE'VE COMPLETED THE DESIGN THAT INCLUDES NEW COUNCIL WORK ROOM WITH TECHNOLOGY ENHANCEMENTS, WHICH WE'LL TALK ABOUT THIS EVENING. WE'LL HAVE NEW OFFICES FOR THE CITY SECRETARY, INCLUDING A COPY ROOM AND MEETING ROOM.
WE'LL BE DOING HVAC REPLACEMENTS, SOME SECURITY UPGRADES ACROSS ALL THROUGH CITY HALL.
AND THEN WE ADDED AN ADULT FOR RENOVATIONS TO OUR EXISTING BATHROOMS. STAFF DID COMPETITIVE, SEALED PROPOSALS FOR THIS PROJECT.
WE POSTED THAT IN ON NOVEMBER 8TH. WE HAD A MANDATORY PRE-PROPOSAL MEETING.
WE DID RECEIVE NINE SUBMISSIONS ON THIS PROJECT.
STAFF REQUESTED INTERVIEWS AND WE MET WITH C1S, TEGRITY AND FALKENBURG CONSTRUCTION.
THIS IS JUST THE OVERALL SCORE SHEET FOR THOSE SIX PROPOSALS WE RECEIVED.
AFTER WE WENT THROUGH AND DID INTERVIEWS WITH TEGRITY, C1S AND FALKENBURG, STAFF RECOMMENDED AND SCORED TEGRITY CONTRACTORS TO BE THE BEST BIDDER. SO JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT TEGRITY.
WE DO HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR TEGRITY, BUT THEY ARE. DALLAS FORT WORTH BASED FIRM IS A GENERAL CONTRACTOR. THEY'VE BEEN ESTABLISHED IN 98. THEY'VE DONE RECENT RENOVATION PROJECTS IN CARROLLTON, MANSFIELD AND ARGYLE, AND 60% OF THEIR PROJECTS ARE MUNICIPAL OR PUBLIC SECTOR.
THEIR PROPOSAL FOR THE PROJECT WAS AGAIN $777,777.
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THAT DOES INCLUDE THAT 10% CONTINGENCY. AND THEN THEY PROPOSED $70,777 FOR THE RENOVATION OF ALL THE BATHROOMS HERE WITHIN CITY HALL, OR I SHOULD SAY, THE BATHROOMS OUT FRONT IN THE BACK.ALSO INCLUDED IN THIS PROJECT, WE WANTED TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE TECHNOLOGY COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE RENOVATION, SO WE ADDED IT TO THIS PRESENTATION. THERE ARE MULTIPLE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT HAVE TO BE ADDED AS PART OF THIS PROJECT, FROM NETWORKING, ACCESS CONTROL FOR SECURITY MEASURES AND SOME SECURITY CAMERAS WILL BE ADDED.
A NEW PANIC SYSTEM WILL BE ADDED WITHIN THE FACILITY, SOME STREAMING EQUIPMENT.
AS THIS, THE NEW ROOM WILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO STREAM PUBLIC MEETINGS AND THEN THE AV SYSTEM, AND THEN THE AV SYSTEM. TONIGHT IS THE ONE ITEM THAT IS OVER THE $50,000 THRESHOLD FOR THE FOR THE CITY MANAGER TO AUTHORIZE, AND THAT IS FOR $131,000 FOR DATA PROJECTIONS.
ALSO, AS PART OF THE RENOVATION OF CITY HALL, WE ARE GOING TO BE DOING SOME WORK IN THE BACK WITH THE CITY, WITH THE CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE MOVING TO THE FRONT.
THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE IS GOING TO BE RELOCATING TO WHERE THE CITY SECRETARY SITS TODAY, AND THEN WHERE THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE IS TODAY.
DOWN THAT HALLWAY WILL BE CONVERTED TO SPACES FOR HR.
WE ANTICIPATE HOPEFULLY ABOUT A $40,000 CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT TO DO SOME WORK IN THAT AREA, HOPING TO DO SOME ELECTRICAL WORK IN-HOUSE WITH CITY STAFF, AND THEN WE ANTICIPATE ABOUT $60,000 WORTH OF FURNITURE NEEDED TO BE PURCHASED FOR THAT AREA, WITH A TOTAL ESTIMATED FUNDING OF $100,000 IF APPROVED THIS EVENING.
WE WILL GIVE A NOTICE TO PROCEED ON JANUARY 27TH.
THE CITY WILL START WORK IMMEDIATELY. THE HOPE IS ABOUT THREE MONTHS, DEPENDING ON LEAD TIME OF THE ROOFTOP UNITS FOR THE EIGHT TRACK WE ANTICIPATE TO BE COMPLETED BY MAY 31ST. THE HOPE IS THEN TO BE COMPLETED WITH THE CMO AND HR AREA BY THE END OF JULY.
FUNDING FOR THIS PROJECT, IF YOU REMEMBER, WE MOVED $800,000 FROM THE ROYALTY FUND.
THAT'S THE GAS. ROYALTY WAS PART OF A BUDGET ADJUSTMENT.
THAT WAS AN EFFORT TO REDUCE THE CASH CONTRIBUTION TO THIS PROJECT.
WE HAD SOME ROLLOVER FROM THE ELLISON STREET BUILDING FOR THE WATER AND SEWER. AND FOR A JUST A REMINDER, OBVIOUSLY, THE CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE DOES SUPPORT THOSE FUNCTIONS.
AND SO THAT FUNDING IS AVAILABLE. AND THIS IS ALL CASH FUNDING NOT DEBT ISSUANCE.
AND THEN WE HAD THE ORIGINAL $542,000 FROM THE ORIGINAL CASH FUNDING, AND THAT WAS A REDUCTION FROM THE 1.4 MILLION, WITH THE TOTAL FUNDING AVAILABLE OF THE 1.498.
AGAIN, THE EXPENSES WE HAVE THE BASE BID FOR THE CONSTRUCTION, WE HAVE THE AD ALTERNATE FOR THE BATHROOMS. TECHNOLOGY IS ABOUT $209,000, ALL IN FURNITURE AGAIN FOR NEW AREAS.
WE'LL HAVE ABOUT 341,000 WE ANTICIPATE TO COME IN UNDER THERE.
BUT THAT'S WHAT THE BUDGET IS RIGHT NOW WITH THE ADDITIONAL WORK ON THE BACK OF 100,000.
WE COME IN AT THAT 1.498. AND SO WE HAVE TWO ACTIONS TONIGHT.
THE FIRST ONE IS TO APPROVE A CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT WITH INTEGRITY IN THE AMOUNT OF THE $848,554.
AND THEN THE SECOND ACTION WILL BE FOR THE DATA PROJECTIONS FOR 131,000 $953,053.
AND I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. ANYBODY? IS THERE A MOTION ON SEVEN? A. MOVE TO APPROVE.
I HAVE A MOTION BY ADAM. SECOND BY VICTORIA. PLEASE VOTE.
PASSES. UNANIMOUS. DO I HAVE A MOTION ON SEVEN B? I MOVE TO APPROVE. SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION BY ADAM.
A SECOND BY BUT. VICTORIA. PLEASE VOTE. THIS IS UNANIMOUS.
THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
THAT BRINGS US TO SECTION EIGHT LEGISLATIVE REPORTS AND RELATED ACTION ITEMS. THIS IS A STANDING ITEM ON THE AGENDA FOR EVERY REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING THAT ALLOWS THE CITY COUNCIL TO RECEIVE REPORTS, OR HOLD DISCUSSIONS, OR GIVE STAFF DIRECTION REGARDING ANY LEGISLATIVE MATTERS PERTAINING TO THE 89TH TEXAS LEGISLATIVE SESSION.
THAT WILL MOVE US ON TO SECTION NINE, CITY COUNCIL REQUESTS FOR FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS AND REPORTS TO PASS THAT WILL MOVE US ON TO SECTION TEN EXECUTIVE SESSION IN ACCORDANCE IN ACCORDANCE WITH CHAPTER 5.51 OF
[10. RECESS INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION]
THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, THE CITY COUNCIL WILL CONVENE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION IN THE CITY COUNCIL WORK ROOM AND CITY HALL TO CONDUCT A CLOSED MEETING IN PERSISTENT TO PURSUANT TO SECTION 551.071, 551.072, 551.076, 551.087. IS THERE A MOTION TO CONVENE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION?[02:10:08]
I HAVE A MOTION BY VICTORIA, A SECOND BY ADAM.WE'RE GOING TO CONVENE AT 745 NOW. YEAH. YEAH.
WE NEED TO VOTE ON THIS ITEM. THAT'S BEFORE YOU TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.
NO, I MESSED THAT UP. WE DID, WE DIDN'T. OH.
HERE LATELY, I'VE REALLY BEEN MESSING THIS UP, HADN'T I? IT PASSES UNANIMOUS.
WE'RE OUT OF HERE. GOING INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AT 7:46.
WE ARE GOING TO NEED A MOTION TO ADJOURN. WE DON'T DO THIS.
OKAY, WE'RE OUT OF HERE. PASSES. WE'RE BACK IN SESSION AT 8:35.
YES, MA'AM. WE HAVE NO OTHER ITEMS. ALREADY DONE.
WE HAVE NO OTHER ITEMS FOR CONSIDERATION. THERE YOU GO.
SECOND. MAYOR, CAN YOU CALL THE MEETING ADJOURNED.
YES. WE'RE ADJOURNED AT 8:35. THANK YOU.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.