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>> I'LL TRY THAT AGAIN. THANK YOU, CHAIR, COMMISSIONERS.
[4.A. 7430, 7350 and 7226 FM 1902 (Case 24-315): Hold a public hearing and consider a recommendation of disapproval for an ordinance for a zoning change request from “A”, Agriculture to “PD" Planned Development for a proposed hybrid flex business park with commercial uses. (Staff Contact: Lidon Pearce, Principal Planner)]
FOR THE RECORD, LIDON PEARCE, PRINCIPAL PLANNER WITH THE CITY.AS YOU MENTIONED, THIS IS A ZONING CHANGE REQUEST.
YOU'LL SEE THERE ON YOUR SCREEN, THE GENERAL LOCATION IS AT THE SOUTHEAST INTERSECTION OF FM 1902 IN COUNTY ROAD 913.
THIS IS A ITEM FOR CONSIDERATION FOR RECOMMENDATION FROM A, AGRICULTURE TO A PLAN DEVELOPMENT ZONING REQUEST.
IT'S CURRENTLY A ZONED AGRICULTURE, AND IT IS IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR NEIGHBORHOODS.
THIS IS A CONCEPTUAL SITE PLAN THAT'S PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT.
YOU SEE THERE THEY'RE PROPOSING VARIOUS BUILDINGS AND THEN SOME LANDSCAPING, AND THIS IS HOW IT'S SITUATED ON THE SITE THERE.
IF THE ZONING WAS APPROVED, THEY WOULD COME BACK WITH A COMMERCIAL SITE PLAN FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AT A LATER DATE.
THESE ARE SOME RENDERINGS PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT, SOME TYPICAL BUILDING FOR A VISUAL REFERENCE.
YOU'LL SEE THERE A TYPICAL VIEW FROM FM 1902, AND THEN THE INTERIOR ONE WOULD BE THE LOTS THAT DON'T HAVE DIRECT FRONTAGE OR BIRD'S EYE VIEW FROM THE ROAD, SO THE BUILDINGS IN THE CENTER.
I'VE TAKEN JUST SOME OF THE USES OUT OF THE ORDINANCE.
IT'S QUITE AN EXTENSIVE LIST, BUT THESE ARE SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS.
YOUR ALLOWED USES WOULD ESSENTIALLY BE THINGS LIKE ANTIQUE SHOPS, ART GALLERIES, YOUR AUTO SALES, AUTO GLASS SHOPS, SOME CONTRACTORS OFFICES, YOUR BUSINESS, PROFESSIONAL, MEDICAL DENTAL, THOSE TYPES OF OFFICES, MANY WAREHOUSE, RESTAURANT, RETAIL, AND THEN SOME TRADE SCHOOLS.
THERE'S A VARIOUS USES, BUT THESE ARE JUST AN OVERVIEW OF SOME OF THOSE THAT WOULD FIT IN THERE.
THEY WOULD NEED SUP IF THEY WERE TO PUT A LIQUOR STORE OR MEAT PROCESSING OR MANUFACTURING.
SOME USES THAT ARE STRICTLY PROHIBITED IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE PROPOSED ARE AUTO SALVAGE YARDS, OUTDOOR SALES AND RENTALS OF AUTO, YOUR ASPHALT, CONCRETE, BATCHING, SAND GRAVEL, BRICK KILN, LANDFILL, YOUR STANDARD THINGS THAT WE DON'T GENERALLY WANT TO SEE IN THAT AREA, TATTOO STUDIOS AND SEXUALLY-ORIENTED BUSINESSES.
THOSE ARE MORE USES THAT WOULD BE STRAIGHT INDUSTRIAL.
WE DID SEND A PUBLIC HEARING NOTICE TO THE PROPERTIES IDENTIFIED ON THE SCREEN, AS WELL AS I POSTED A SIGN ON THE PROPERTY, AND WE PUBLISHED IN THE NEWSPAPER.
THIS IS ANOTHER VIEW. YOU CAN SEE THIS OVERLAID
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MORE PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT, A AERIAL VIEW.STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION OF DISAPPROVAL, AND I'LL TALK TO THAT FOR A SECOND.
PRIMARILY, AS YOU KNOW, WE BASE OUR RECOMMENDATION ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR THIS AREA IS NEIGHBORHOODS.
WHAT OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ENVISIONS IN THAT AREA IS THIS WILL BUILD OUT MORE AS A RESIDENTIAL-TYPE USE.
THERE ARE SOME ALLOWANCES IN THAT COMP PLAN FOR SOME MORE NEIGHBORHOOD-TYPE RETAIL USES, YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES, WOULD SAY RETAIL OR RESTAURANTS, NOT YOUR FLEX SPACE, NOT YOUR INDUSTRIAL, NOT YOUR HEAVIER COMMERCIAL USES IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS CATEGORY.
THAT BEING SAID, BASED OFF THE LOCATION OF THIS IN THAT COMP PLAN DESIGNATION AND THEN HOW WE ENVISION THAT WITH THE COMP PLAN THAT'S APPROVED, STAFF MAKES A RECOMMENDATION BASED OFF THAT OF DISAPPROVAL.
I CAN TALK MORE ABOUT ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE OF STAFF.
OUR RECOMMENDATION ARE THE COMP PLAN, AND THEN THE APPLICANT'S TEAM IS HERE IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS TO THEM.
BEFORE YOU GUYS, IS THERE ANYONE THAT YOU'D RATHER GET OUT FIRST AND SPEAK?
>> WE CAN DO FLASH AFTER, AND THEN I'LL START.
>> WE'D HAVE TO HAVE OUR ID, ESSENTIALLY, SCAN THAT.
>> [INAUDIBLE] TO THOSE PLACE, DALLAS, TEXAS.
GUYS, I THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
WE DID CONTACT AND WE APPRECIATE ALL THE TIME THAT THE CITY STAFF HAS GIVEN US, AND THE DIRECTION WE MET WITH THE CITY MANAGER, AND WE'VE MET WITH THE EDC FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES.
>> I WANT TO GIVE THEM THE HANDOUTS.
>> SURE. LET ME DO THE HANDOUTS.
IT RINGS IN THE BACK UP. [BACKGROUND]
>> DO YOU SEE THE LITTLE LANE THERE IN BURLESON? THIS IS 1902 BURLESON BUSINESS PARK AND WE'VE MADE IT THAT IT'S GOT 162,000 TOTAL AFTER ABOUT FOUR DIFFERENT PHASES AS THE PARK ENSURES.
THE TYPICAL TENANTS, THESE ARE VERY SMALL.
IT'S NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES WITH THE TENANTS.
THE TENTS ARE 1,800 SQUARE FEET.
THE FACILITIES THAT ARE FACING ON 1902 CAN PARK UP TO 1-200 IN APARTMENTS HEAD, JUST IN CASE WE DO HAVE A RETAIL OR RETAIL COMPONENTS THAT DO GO IN THAT SPACE.
THE PARKING IN THE BACK OF THOSE BUILDINGS ARE PARKED IN 1-300, AND THOSE CAN BE IN 100% OFFICE.
WE TRY TO GET THE SPACE IN THESE SMALL BUILDINGS TO GIVE THIS AN ORGANIZATION AND WITH 30 FEET OF LANDSCAPING IN THE FRONT, 30 FEET OF LANDSCAPING IN THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY WITH A SILT TEST THAT WE'RE PROPOSING DOUBLE LEFT.
WE'VE RETAINED THE CIVIL ENGINEER AND KIMLEY-HORN, WE HAVE A PROPER AMOUNT OF DETENTION.
WE DO HAVE A SEPTIC FIELD THAT COULD MEET THE DEMANDS OF THE TOTAL BUILDOUT.
WE CONSIDERED HEARING ON THE 1913 ROAD.
THE BUILDINGS, IF YOU LOOK, THEY'RE 200 FEET AWAY FROM A PROPERTY LINE.
SO WE'RE USING THE DETENTION POND AND THE EASTERN REGISTRAR'S FEEDERS TO SCREEN OFF FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND CREATE A GOOD AMOUNT OF ZONE.
WE DON'T FEEL LIKE THIS IS GOING TO BE A REALLY HEAVY USE, IT'S NOT A LARGE INDUSTRIAL PARK AT ALL.
THIS IS REALLY THE NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES WITH SMALLER TESTS.
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WE HAD FARMERS INSURANCE TO GUYS.REALLY, WE TOOK THE DESIGN THAT IS SIMILAR TO THE CRACKMASTERS.
WE TOOK THAT TYPE OF FIELD, BROUGHT THAT IN, AND WE WERE HOPING FOR MAYBE PLUMBING COMPANIES THAT LEFT OLD COMPANIES WITH THAT JUST TWO MILES DOWN THE ROAD TO START WITH SOME COMPANIES THAT REALLY ARE FACILITATED SO THE NEW ROOFTOPS ARE GOING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE PUSHING FOR.
WE'RE DOING THIS, AND I'M DOING THIS ALL OVER THE METROPLEX.
THIS IS ABOUT LESS THAN 3% VACANCY RELATEDNESS, AND THIS IS A VERY WELL-LIKED TYPE OF BUILDINGS THERE.
WE'VE ACCOMMODATED FOR THE LARGER TRUCKS TO PARK IN THE AISLE, THE PICK-UP TRUCKS.
WE GOT 20 FOOT STALL, WE HAVE PLENTY OF DRIVEWAYS.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE ALL THE NEIGHBORS AND ALL THE TENANTS GET ALONG WITH EACH OTHER, AND THAT'S WHY WE ARE A PART OF THIS.
I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANYBODY'S QUESTIONS.
WE'RE LOOKING FOR APPROVAL, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING HERE IN THE CITY OF BURLESON.
WE DO HAVE THE TWO DEVELOPERS HERE THAT MAY ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OF WHAT TYPE OF LEASE RATES OR WHATEVER THEY'RE LOOKING FOR.
THEY'RE HERE TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS HERE.
IS THERE ANY OTHER FROM THE COMMISSIONERS WHO WANT TO ASK ANY QUESTION?
>> I HAVE A QUESTION. [INAUDIBLE]
I'M LOOKING AT THREE OF THEM IN CITY.
[BACKGROUND] WE HAD ONE IN BRISCOE.
>> A LITTLE BIT SIMILAR TO THIS?
>> NOT AS NICE AS THIS, I'LL TELL YOU THAT.
THIS HAS A MORE RETAIL FLAVOR WITH ALL THE GLASS.
THIS IS A VERY CONTEMPORARY BECAUSE WE EMULATED WHAT CRACKMASTERS IS DOING DOWN THE ROAD.
WE WE WANT TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR AND WE EMULATE WITH THAT TYPE OF DESIGN TO CREATE GOOD VALUE ON PROPERTY.
>> HOW MANY TENANTS ARE YOU LOOKING AT HOUSING?
GENERALLY, YOU CAN SEE EACH BUILDING IS 1,800 SQUARE FEET FOR EACH BAY AS YOU SEE.
ON YOUR PLANS, THAT IS ONE TENANT, SO YOU CAN HAVE UP TO ABOUT SIX TENANTS FOR THE 10,800 SQUARE FOOT FACILITY.
THEN THE 9,000 HAVE FOUR TENANTS.
>> I THINK THE TOTAL FOR THE PROJECT IS ABOUT 58.
>> SOME OF THOSE SPACES WILL BE DOUBLE OR TRIPLE OCCUPANCIES.
>> WE DID MAXIMUM SITE DESIGN FOR GIVING SMALLER TENANTS THE OPPORTUNITIES A LEASE FOR THIS LOCATION. [OVERLAPPING]
>> WHAT I'M ASKING IS HOW MANY TOTAL TENANTS?
>> DEPENDING ON HOW MUCH SPACE SOMEONE TAKES.
>> THEY CAN TAKE UP TO 1,800 SQUARE FOOT SPACES AND THAT'S WHAT'S IN THIS DESIGN FOR.
>> DO YOU SEE THING OTHER THAN JUST VISIT FROM INSURANCE OR PLUMBING, OR DO YOU SEE FOOD? THERE COULD BE SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
THERE COULD BE A DONUT SHOP FROM THERE.
WITH THE 1,800 FEET, THAT CAN BE A SIGNIFICANTLY VIABLE SITUATION, IT COULD BE SOME BAKERY.
THAT COULD ALSO BE A PLAY, COULD BE ALSO INSURANCE.
THIS IS WHAT THIS IS DESIGNED FOR, SO REALLY MAKING THESE SERVICES LIKE THAT.
ESPECIALLY WITH THE PASSERS DOWN THE STREET WITH THE NEW TOWN THAT'S COMING FROM THAT AND THAT HAVING YOUR PLUMBING OR YOUR ELECTRICAL SUPPLY SHOP OR AC SUPPLY SHOP THERE, YOUR BUSINESS AS BEING SO CLOSE BY THERE REALLY HAS A GOOD PLAY.
THAT'S WHAT WE READ BASICALLY, THE DESIGN AND GAME PLAY OF THAT TYPE OF DESIGN.
>> ONE OTHER QUESTION. HOW LONG DID IT TAKE FROM CONSTRUCTION TO FINISH?
>> ALL OF THAT IS NEAR FOR SCOPE.
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IT ALL IS 100%, 5% IN LESS THAN 18-MONTH WINDOW.>> THAT ONE I CANNOT RECALL BECAUSE IT IS NOT AS BIG AS THIS ONE.
THERE'S ONLY ABOUT SIX OR AROUND SEVEN.
>> I'M GOING TO SAY THERE'S A DOZEN IN THERE, AT LEAST A DOZEN.
BUT THE DEVELOPER IS A LONG-TERM OWNER, THEY'RE EXCLUDING THAT, BUT THEY'RE GOING TO OWN THIS LONG-TERM AND SO THEY DON'T PLAN TO PUT THIS OR LIFT THIS HERE IN 18 MONTHS [INAUDIBLE] FOR A LONG TIME. THANK YOU.
>> I GOT A QUESTION. WHAT'S THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF SPACE THAT THEY COULD GET ON HERE?
>> WELL, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
WELL, AGAIN IT'S JUST [INAUDIBLE] WHAT IS LEASE? BUT IT COULD BE EITHER THE 10,800 OR THE 9,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING, THEY TAKE UP ALL THAT BUILDING TOO AND ALSO.
>> I KNOW THAT [INAUDIBLE] SOMEBODY MAY COME IN AND REQUESTING [INAUDIBLE]
>> WELL, IF YOU LOOK IN BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS, THERE'S A LOADING VEIN AREA THERE.
IF THEY NEED AN UNLOADED IN BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS, AND YOU SEE ON THE SITE PLAN THERE, THERE'S A SHAPE THAT MEETS YOUR 12045, AND THAT'S FOR THE END YOUR LOADING TRUST.
IF THEY DO HAVE THAT REQUIREMENT.
>> I HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY ABOUT YOUR RECOMMENDATION ON THIS.
I'VE SEEN SOME OF THE DEVELOPERS OR EVEN IN THE TRUCK TRIGGERS WILL COME IN TO LIVE AND IT WILL BE CLOSE TO THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, MAYBE EVEN A BLOCK OR TWO AWAY OR THE TRUCK OR STUFF TO GET ALL THAT LONG [INAUDIBLE] I DON'T KNOW WHAT HOURS OF OPERATION YOU MIGHT BE TARGETING [INAUDIBLE].
>> WELL, MOST OF THE OWNERS [INAUDIBLE] AS A SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS CERTAINLY PRACTICE REALLY THIS [INAUDIBLE] FOR 24 HOURS.
WE DON'T SEE THAT IN THIS TYPE OF FACILITY.
WE DON'T SEE THIS DURING NO MORE WORKING HOURS.
BOTH DELIVERIES WOULD BE MADE DURING NORMAL WORKING HOURS.
VERY RARELY YOU SEE WHERE THE TRUCK IS OUT THERE DIESEL [INAUDIBLE].
THIS IS NOT A LARGE DISTRIBUTION CENTER LIKE A LOT OF IT ALL THAT HAS HAD A LARGE DISTRIBUTION, AND I'VE BEEN QUITE A BIT AT FIRST.
THIS IS NOT THAT FACILITY AT ALL.
>> I'VE HAD CONCERNS LIKE THIS.
I'M A GENERAL CONTRACTOR SO I'VE BEEN AT FACILITIES LIKE THIS AND I APPRECIATE WHAT IS THERE IF YOU'RE NOT NEAR THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
[INAUDIBLE] THE TRASH DUMPSTERS WHEN THOSE GUYS SHOW UP [INAUDIBLE]
>> GREAT QUESTION, BECAUSE WE FACED THE TRASH DUMPSTERS AWAY, IF YOU CAN LOOK ON THE SITE PLAN THERE, THE TRASH DUMPSTERS ACTUALLY FACE TOWARD THE BUILDINGS AND WE SCREEN OUT.
WE ACTUALLY USE THE TRASH DUMPSTER AS PART OF THE SCREEN, AND THAT IS SEEN IN WIDE WALL.
THEN THE TRASH DUMPSTERS THAT I HAVE USED ON THE DESIGN FOR THE FENCES AND THE GATES, I'VE BEEN USING FOR THE LAST 30 YEARS.
THEY DON'T GO AWAY. I HAVE A VERY EXCELLENT DESIGN ON [INAUDIBLE]
>> DID [INAUDIBLE] TRUCKS. ONCE YOU GET [INAUDIBLE]
>> MY HOUSE IS CLOSER TO [INAUDIBLE] COMMERCIAL [INAUDIBLE] OFFICE PARK, AND I'M AWARE OF THAT.
NORMALLY, I DON'T KNOW IF YOUR [INAUDIBLE] HAS HOURS OF OPERATIONS PHYSICALLY, MOST CITIES DO.
NORMALLY IS USUALLY BETWEEN 7:00 AM TO 9:00 PM. JUST PICK UP.
>> YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THREE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING.
>> I KNOW EXACTLY. BUT THE TRASH UP IS LITERALLY 200 FEET AWAY FROM THE PROPERTY LINE FROM 913.
WITH THE EXISTING TREES THAT ARE ALL THAT HALFWAY THERE TOO.
THOSE ARE ALL THE CONSIDERATIONS.
>> I APPRECIATE YOUR ANSWERS THAT [INAUDIBLE] FROM THE RESIDENT AS A REALTOR.
>> WE DEFINITELY THOUGHT ABOUT THAT.
WE THOUGHT ABOUT THAT WITH A MULTI-LAYER PLUS THE DETENTION BOND WE HAVE WITH THE TWO-ACRE AND A HALF OF DETENTION OVER THERE, IS 150 FEET PLUS THE [INAUDIBLE] AT 150 FEET BEYOND THAT.
WE HAVE LAYERS OF SCREEN THAT WE'RE IMPLEMENTING WITH EASTERN RED CEDARS THAT THOSE EASTERN RED CEDARS WOULD SUPPLY OUR TEXAS SERVICE AND ALSO [INAUDIBLE]
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>> SERVICES CAUSE ELECTRIC IN [INAUDIBLE]
>> THAT'S NOT SOMETHING I HAVE AT MY DISPOSAL FOR THIS FOR THE LAND ENTITLEMENT CASE, BUT WE COULD FIND OUT.
>> THE CITY OF BURLESON DOESN'T PROVIDE ELECTRIC.
>> IT'S IN THE CITY LIMITS, SO WE WOULD PROVIDE TO CITY SERVICES.
BUT THE WATER PROVIDER, I DON'T KNOW OFFHAND.
>> I HAVE A CIVIL [INAUDIBLE].
>> WE HAVE NOT DONE ANY CIVIL REVIEWS OR SITE PLAN REVIEWS, THIS IS JUST A LAND ZONING CASE.
SOME OF THOSE DETAILS STAFF IS, YEAH.
NO, I UNDERSTAND, I JUST WANT TO BE UPFRONT AND HONEST.
>> [OVERLAPPING] [INAUDIBLE]. RIGHT NOW WE'RE TUNING ON CIVIL.
>> I HAVE A QUESTION. I KNOW LOOKING AT THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING VERSUS THE INTERIOR PART OF THE BUILDING.
>> DID WE DETERMINED THAT IN THE INTERIOR WOULD BE MORE TRUCKS?
>> WELL, AND HE WILL DETERMINE THE DOORS CANNOT FACE IN THE RIGHT WAY.
WE PASSED THAT AND WE HAVE THE GLASS, BECAUSE SOME OF THESE MAY BE RETAILED, AND THEN WE'RE ACTUALLY THE ONES IN THE FRONT AND ARE GOING TO HAVE THE RENTAL RATE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER AT THE FRONT AND THEN THE ONES IN THE BACK.
THE ONES THAT FACE THE FRONT, THE SERVICE DOOR IS IN THE REAR.
WE'RE ENCLOSING AND CAPSULATING ALL THE SERVICE DOORS, AND THIS IS NOT FOR [INAUDIBLE], THESE ARE FOR THE SERVICE TRUCKS.
>> THOSE WOULD JUST BE FOR THE [INAUDIBLE] SHOP?
>> IT COULD. AS [INAUDIBLE] WE DON'T PARK [INAUDIBLE] THAT RATIO.
WE'RE VERY FORTUNATE [INAUDIBLE] I UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE ALL THE PARKING DEMANDS AND THIS REALLY GIVES THE FLEXIBILITY TO MEET ALL THE DEMAND [INAUDIBLE].
>> JUST FOR YOUR INFORMATION COMMISSIONERS, THE ORDINANCE DOESN'T SAY ONLY RESTAURANTS CAN GO ON THE FRONT OR LIGHT MANUFACTURING HAS TO BE IN THE BACK.
THE USES ARE ALLOWED ARE ALLOWED, THEY'RE NOT REGULATED TO A SPECIFIC BUILDING.
THE FRONT COULD BE ALL LIGHT MANUFACTURING, IT COULD BE ALL RESTAURANTS, IT COULD BE ALL MOTORCYCLE REPAIR AND SALES.
I JUST WANTED TO ADD, WE DID PUT IN AN EXTRA DISTANCE REQUIREMENT FROM ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL USES FOR HEADQUARTER USES [INAUDIBLE] AN OVERHEAD DOOR, I BELIEVE THAT HAS TO BE AT LEAST 100 FEET.
I'M SORRY, I DID [INAUDIBLE] BUT WE DEFINED A DISTANCE [INAUDIBLE] FROM THE ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL MASTER.
IF ONE OF THE USE FOR THAT SUITE IT HAS [INAUDIBLE]
>> I CAN ANSWER THAT. FOLLOWING USES REQUIRE 100 FEET FROM THE BAY DOOR OR THE OVERHEAD DOOR TO A RESIDENTIAL ZONE PROPERTY.
THOSE ONES ARE AUTO GLASS SEAT COVER MUFFLER SHOPS REQUIRE AN EXTRA DISTANCE REQUIREMENT.
THE CARPENTRY SHOP WOULD REQUIRE EXTRA DISTANCE, SO 100 FEET.
THE CLOTHING OR SIMILAR MANUFACTURING WOULD REQUIRE THAT. LET'S SEE.
THE LANDSCAPING SERVICE WOULD REQUIRE THAT.
LABORATORY MANUFACTURING WOULD REQUIRE THAT.
LIGHT MANUFACTURING OR ASSEMBLY WOULD REQUIRE THAT.
PLUMBING SHOP WOULD REQUIRE THAT.
A SMALL TRACTOR AND FARM EQUIPMENT SALES AND REPAIR WOULD REQUIRE THAT.
I BELIEVE THAT THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT REQUIRE THAT, WOULD BE 100 FEET FROM THE BAY DOOR TO THE RESIDENTIAL ZONE PROPERTY.
>> [INAUDIBLE] THE REST OF US. THAT'S THE REASON WE HAVE 30 FEET, WE HAVE THE [INAUDIBLE] TOO FAST.
THIRTY FEET OF LANDSCAPING, [INAUDIBLE] FOOT OF UPPER.
THEN ON THAT EAST SIDE THERE'S AN EXISTING TREES THAT ARE ALREADY
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EXISTING AND WE'RE KEEPING ALL THAT FOR STAYING AWAY FROM THOSE EXISTING TREES THERE AND ALSO ON 913, THOSE EXISTING TREES THERE ALSO.IT IS ALL INTERNAL, SO ALL THE DOORS WERE IN INTERNAL TYPE OF VIEW.
THAT'S WHAT WE BASED THIS ON [INAUDIBLE] IF I WAS LIVING IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD HAVE WANT.
WE MADE SURE THAT THAT IS ONE OF OUR MAIN THOUGHTS ABOUT THE MASTER PLAN FORUM.
GOOD DETENTION, WE HAVE THE RIGHT AMOUNT OF THE LEACH FIELD, THE CORRECT AMOUNT OF SIZE OF EACH FIELD, THANKS FOR [INAUDIBLE] AND THE DETENTION POND, SO WE ADDRESSED ALL THIS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ALSO HAVE THE [INAUDIBLE].
WE NEGOTIATED THE DRIVEWAYS LOCATIONS.
WE'VE DONE ALL OUR DUE DILIGENCE HERE AT THE FARM.
>> ZERO PARTICULAR THOUGHT PROCESS BETWEEN [INAUDIBLE]
>> COMMERCIAL HAS USES THAT, AGAIN, WOULDN'T ALIGN WITH THE COMP PLAN.
THEY WENT WITH A PD TO TRY TO GET THIS FLEX, RETAIL, COMMERCIAL, AND LIGHT INDUSTRIAL TYPE USES.
THAT IS WHY WE JUST SUPPORT WHAT THE APPLICANT WANTS SO WE'LL PROVIDE THEM SOME GUIDELINES, SO WHAT WE THINK TO HELP, SUCH AS SOME OF THE SCREENING AND BUFFERING.
BUT IN THIS COMP PLAN DESIGNATION, WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT A NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICE ZONING, WHICH IS GOING TO BE YOUR COFFEE SHOPS, NOTHING MANUFACTURING, NOTHING CARPENTRY, NOTHING AUTO, NOTHING MOTORCYCLE.
THOSE TYPE OF USES. THAT WASN'T ENOUGH USES FOR WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR THIS MODEL.
THE PD IS THE ROUTE THAT THEY PROPOSE TO GET THE MIX OF USES IN THERE.
>> I GUESS THE QUESTION I HAD IN RELATIONSHIP WITH THIS IS PROBABLY WEST OF [INAUDIBLE] IS ALSO COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE RESIDENTIAL.
THERE IS NOT THE RESIDENTIAL [INAUDIBLE]
>> THE PINK AREA THAT'S CHISHOLM TRAIL CORRIDOR? MAYBE I'M MISUNDERSTANDING WHICH PARCEL OF LAND YOU'RE REFERRING TO.
>> WELL, WHAT'S BETWEEN 1902 BETWEEN CHISHOLM TRAIL.
>> IS MEANT TO BE CHISHOLM TRAIL CORRIDOR, WHICH WOULD BE YOUR BUSINESS, YOUR SCHOOL CENTERS, YOUR CRAFT MASTERS TYPE STUFF.
THAT AREA ALONG THE TOLLWAY IS DESIGNATED FOR THOSE TYPES OF USES. NOT RESIDENTIAL.
>> IF YOU LOOK AT THE SCREEN, EVERYTHING THAT'S PINK ENVISIONS MORE OF YOUR OFFICE PARKS, YOUR SCHOOLS, YOUR HOSPITALS, STUFF LIKE THAT.
THE AREA IN YELLOW IS WHERE WE ENVISION NEIGHBORHOODS.
>> [INAUDIBLE] THIS IS NOT FAR CORRECT IN MATTERS [INAUDIBLE]
>> THE PROPERTIES WOULD HAVE FRONTAGE ON CHISHOLM TRAIL.
>> [INAUDIBLE] THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DIDN'T WANT TO [INAUDIBLE] WAS IT HALF HOUR [INAUDIBLE]
>> FIFTEEN MINUTES AWAY [INAUDIBLE] THIS IS IT. [INAUDIBLE] FOR SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS.
>> I'VE GOT ANOTHER QUESTION. WOULD YOU ANTICIPATE THESE TENANTS [INAUDIBLE] FOR OUTSIDE STORAGE? [INAUDIBLE]
THAT'S ONE THING THAT THEY QUASHED.
>> IN THE PERMITTED [INAUDIBLE] FOR SHIPPED USES, WE TRIED TO ONE AT THAT OUTSIDE STORAGE DEPARTMENT FOR THOSE USES OUTSIDE STORAGE.
WE'VE NOTED ON THE USES OF OUTSIDE STORAGE.
>> [INAUDIBLE] AS FAR AS THE [INAUDIBLE] TO DETERMINE.
IS THERE RESTRICTIONS ON THE [INAUDIBLE]
>> THEY DO HAVE A LIGHT PARKING LOT.
LIGHT STANDARD SHALL NOT EXCEED 30 FEET IN HEIGHT, AND SHE'LL COMPLY WITH OUR SHIELDING REQUIREMENTS.
THEN POLL LIGHTS MAX HEIGHT NEXT TO SINGLE FAMILY ZONING OF 100 FEET OR LESS
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SHALL BE NO TALLER THAN 15 FEET AND NO COBRA HEAD STYLE LIGHTS.AGAIN, THIS IS JUST THE ENTITLEMENT, BUT WHEN THEY GO IN TO SUBMIT FOR BUILDING PERMITS AND THEIR SITE PLANS, WHEN THE BUILDING DIVISION LOOKS AT THE PHOTO METRICS, AND WITH THE PERMITS, THEY'LL MAKE SURE THAT THAT DOESN'T HAVE THAT BLEED OVER.
SIMILAR TO WHEN WE HAD THE VOLKSWAGEN THAT WAS GOING ON NEIGHBORHOOD AREA, AND WE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THE LIGHT POLLUTION.
>> BUT THERE IS A SECTION FOR LIGHTING, AND THEN THEY ALSO HAVE TO FOLLOW CITY ORDINANCES. YES, SIR.
>> [INAUDIBLE] ABOUT THE WALL [INAUDIBLE] OR CALL TO. WE TRY TO DO THE DARK SKY LIGHTING.
WE WANT THE LIGHTING TO GO DOWN.
IT'S GOOD SOFT LIGHTS AT THE ENTRANCE.
>> I DON'T USE WALL PACKS ANY AT ALL.
>> I APPRECIATE THE CITY BECAUSE IT'S DARK SKY.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE ALWAYS WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PUT THE LED LIGHTS THAT WE HAD, WE CONTROL THE LIGHTS AND MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S THE REASON THAT WE WROTE THAT IN THERE.
I DID NOT WANT THE LIGHTS OVER SPILLING INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AT ALL.
BUT WHEN WE DO THAT, IF THERE'S EVIDENCE NEAR, IF YOU KNOW THAT IT'S POSSIBLY NEAR, WE DO WANT TO MAKE SURE IT COULD HAVE A BAD SHIELD, IS SOMETHING THAT FALL.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I'VE WANTED FOR THE LAST 35 YEARS, IS LIKELY TO BE A DETRIMENT TO A NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I NEED TO ADDRESS.
>> I HEAR ABOUT [INAUDIBLE] SPOT MCDONALD'S FROM 10 MILES AWAY, THE ARCHES.
THAT IS WORTH PARCH TO GO [INAUDIBLE] APPRECIATE.
>> HAVE STAFF RECEIVED ANY INQUIRIES FROM THE SURROUNDING [INAUDIBLE]
>> WE HAVE NOT HAD ANY INQUIRIES OR ANY OPPOSITION TO THE ZONING.
THE AREA THAT WAS NOTIFIED WAS PRIMARILY, YOU DO HAVE THE SCHOOL PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH AND THEN YOU HAVE A LOT OF UNDEVELOPED TRACKS.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OBVIOUSLY IS LOOKING AT THE FUTURE.
A LOT OF THIS ISN'T CURRENTLY DEVELOPED, SO THERE'S NOT A CURRENT SUBDIVISION THAT WOULD GET A TON OF NOTICES.
WE DIDN'T ANTICIPATE ANYTHING AND WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANYTHING.
>> LOOKING AT [INAUDIBLE] IT'S HARD TO TELL.
CAN YOU POINT OUT [INAUDIBLE] POSSIBLY WE'LL HAVE [INAUDIBLE]
>> THERE'S NO SITE PLAN SUBMITTED WITH THIS.
THIS IS JUST A CONCEPT, A RENDERING TO SHOW WHAT THEY ENVISION IT MAY BE.
>> STAFF HASN'T REVIEWED, I GUESS, A FORMAL SITE PLAN SUBMITTAL.
AT THIS POINT, WE DON'T KNOW THAT.
WHICH ONES WOULD HAVE BAY DOORS, WHICH ONES WILL BE, IF YOU'RE GOING TO END UP WITH 12 TAX OFFICES OR 12 MOTORCYCLE SHOP? WE DON'T KNOW AT THIS JUNCTURE.
>> THAT'S JUST NOT SOMETHING STAFFS RECEIVED, THEY'RE REVIEWED, AND IT'S NOT IN THE LANGUAGE OF THE ZONING.
JUST TO BE AWARE, I'M NOT SAYING ANYTHING NEFARIOUS, BUT IN THE PD ORDINANCE, THERE'S NOTHING THAT WOULD LIMIT THEM FROM HAVING 15 BAY DOORS OR ONE.
THAT'S NOT IN THE ACTUAL PD STANDARDS.
I'M NOT SAYING THEY HAVE ANY INTENTIONS TO DO ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT THAT'S NOT WRITTEN HERE.
>> JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, WHAT DOES [INAUDIBLE]
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND THE COMP PLAN, YOU'RE LOOKING AT RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
THERE IS A SENTENCE IN THERE THAT SAYS COMPLIMENTARY, IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A MOM AND POP STORE, THOSE TYPE OF NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES.
WHILE SOME OF THESE COULD FALL IN THAT CATEGORY, ANYTHING THAT SAYS MANUFACTURING IN IT, ANYTHING THAT'S AUTO-RELATED, A MUFFLER SHOP, A SEAT, THOSE ARE NOT NEIGHBORHOOD.
OUR DEFINITION OF NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICE RESIDENTIALLY ACCOMMODATING USERS.
IF THERE WAS A ZONING DESIGNATION JUST FOR A ASSEMBLY OR MANUFACTURING OR A MUFFLER SHOP, WE WOULDN'T ALLOW THAT TO GO IN A SUBDIVISION.
THAT'S PRIMARILY WHY OUR RECOMMENDATION IS DISAPPROVAL, IS BECAUSE IT DOESN'T MEET THE COMP PLAN.
SEVERAL OF THE USES IN HERE ARE MORE INTENSE THAN WHAT WE WOULD PUT OR RECOMMEND TO BE IN NEIGHBORHOODS.
THAT'S WHAT OUR RECOMMENDATION IS SOLELY BASED OFF, THE USES THAT ARE IN THIS PROPOSAL.
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THE SIZE, YOU LOOK AT THE SCALE.IF WE WERE TALKING ABOUT A CORNER LOT, A SMALL SCALE, THIS IS A FLEX, A BUSINESS PARK, WHATEVER YOU WANT IT.
IT'S NOT THE SCALE THAT FOR STAFF, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT COMP PLAN DESIGNATION, IT DOESN'T FIT IN THERE FOR US.
SORRY, I DIDN'T MEAN TO CUT YOU OFF THERE.
>> JUST TO ADD A LITTLE BIT MORE CONTEXT, IT IS NOT THE STAFF IS STATING THAT THE USES THEY'RE PROPOSING OR THIS PARTICULAR USE IS NOT NEEDED OR WANTED WITHIN THE CITY, IT'S JUST THAT THE REGULATIONS THAT WE HAVE TO GO BY, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE ZONING ORDINANCE, WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING DOES NOT FIT WITHIN THAT.
THEREFORE, WE HAD NO CHOICE BUT TO RECOMMEND DENIAL.
BUT AS A PE, YOU GUYS CAN REGULATE THOSE OTHER USES THAT YOU MAY FEEL DON'T FIT IF YOU'RE LOOKING TO APPROVE.
>> DOES THAT CURRENT [INAUDIBLE]
SOMETIMES THESE DON'T GO INTO VERY MINUTE DETAILS.
JUST TO BE COMPLETELY TRANSPARENT, WHEN WE GET A USE, WHAT WE DO IS WE LOOK AT THE LIST OF USES, AND IF IT'S SIMILAR ENOUGH, AND IF IT'S NOT MORE INTENSE, THEN WE WOULD APPROVE IT.
I WOULD SAY THAT THAT IS PROBABLY LESS INTENSE THAN A MUFFLER SHOP.
THAT DENTLESS REPAIR WOULD BE APPROVED IF THEY WENT IN THERE.
>> IT WILL FALL FROM THE [INAUDIBLE]
>> I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF FRIENDS HERE [INAUDIBLE], I MADE A LOT OF MONEY AND I GOT A COUPLE OF FRIENDS THAT [INAUDIBLE] 30 VEHICLES [INAUDIBLE] I APPRECIATE IT.
>> I ACTUALLY HAVEN'T HAD A PROBLEM WITH THE PLAN.
WE ALWAYS TALK ABOUT WALKABILITY OF THIS NATURE TO LIVE AROUND IT. THIS IS OFF FROM THE SEARCH [INAUDIBLE]
>> ANYBODY OFF FROM YOUR TEAM WANT TO SPEAK OR ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS?
>> JUST SAID SEE THIS PRIMARILY ON THE FRONT [INAUDIBLE]
>> THAT'S RI 35 CORRIDOR, I THINK YOU MAY BE REFERENCING.
WE DO HAVE AN ORDINANCE ON THE BOOKS THAT SAYS NO BAY DOORS CAN FACE.
>> WITH THAT, THE PD, BUT MAYBE NOTHING THAT [INAUDIBLE]
>> WE DON'T PLAY ON THAT [INAUDIBLE] BASED ON THAT [INAUDIBLE] WE PLAN ON THAT WHOLE FURNITURE BEING GLASS, BEING MORE THAT THAT RETAIL NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICE FOCUS.
THEN IN THE BACK, THE SECOND ONE IS BEYOND.
WE SEE THAT MORE IN THE OFFICE OBVIOUSLY WITH THE EXTRA DISTANCE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL FOR THOSE FOREHAND USES.
WE WOULD LIKE THIS OBVIOUSLY TO BE MUCH MORE A NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICE FOCUS BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE OUR [INAUDIBLE].
THAT'S WHERE WE CAN MAKE SENSE IN THIS PROJECT.
ALSO ON THE TRUCK PARKING, I KNOW YOU WERE WORRIED ABOUT 18 WHEELERS IN THAT TRUCK PARKING.
WHAT WE SHOW ON THE SIDE PLANE HERE IS SIMPLY IN BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS, YOU'LL SEE THAT LITTLE AREA WHERE AN 18-WHEELER COULD BACK UP.
IT'S JUST A LOADING AND UNLOADING.
WE DO NOT WANT TO ADD NOR DO WE ANTICIPATE HAVING ANY OVERNIGHT TRUCK.
>> I'LL JUST ADD, THEY DO HAVE THAT IN THEIR BUILDING STANDARDS, THAT NO OVERHEAD DOORS WILL FACE 913 OR 1902 UNLESS IT'S INTERIOR, SO IT WOULD BE SCREENED BY ANOTHER BUILDING.
I JUST DON'T WANT EVERYONE TO GET TOO WRAPPED UP ON THE PRETTY PICTURES, BECAUSE STAFF HAS NOT REVIEWED THAT.
WE HAVEN'T REVIEWED THIS FOR COMPLIANCE OF FIRE LANES, CIRCULATION, PARKING.
THIS IS JUST A CONCEPTUAL SITE PLAN PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT, IT HASN'T BEEN REVIEWED BY STAFF TO MAKE SURE IT MEETS ANYTHING OTHER THAN JUST, HEY, THIS IS WHAT IT COULD BE.
I JUST WANT TO GET ON THE RECORD. YES, SIR.
>> YOU GUYS HAVE HEARD ME SAY 1,000 TIMES, THE WORDS ARE WHAT IS GOING TO MATTER FOR THE ZONING.
WHAT WE PROVIDED IN THE ORDINANCE EXHIBIT, THAT'S WHAT HOLDS PEOPLE'S FEET TO THE FIRE ON WHAT THEY CAN OR CAN'T DO.
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>> I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 6:21 P.M. [INAUDIBLE] CAN WE HAVE A MOTION?
>> WE HAVE A MOTION BY MICHAEL, SECONDED BY BILL.
[INAUDIBLE] THAT WAS THE LAST.
>> THANK YOU. CHAIR, JUST FOR THE APPLICANTS IN THE RECORD, BECAUSE THIS IS DEFAULTED ZONING, YOU DON'T NEED A SUPER MAJORITY AT COUNSEL OR ANYTHING.
>> IT'S SIMPLE MAJORITY AT COUNCIL, 62.
>> SIXTY TWO. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
>> MOVING ON [INAUDIBLE] 3301 NCR 810, CASE 24-329.
HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER A RECOMMENDATION OR APPROVAL FOR AN ORDINANCE FOR A ZONING CHANGE REQUEST FROM A AGRICULTURAL TO C COMMERCIAL DISTRICT FOR A PROPOSED [INAUDIBLE]
>> GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU, CHAIR, COMMISSIONERS.
[4.B.3301 N CR 810 (Case 24-329): Hold a public hearing and consider a recommendation of approval for an ordinance for a zoning change request from “A” Agricultural to “C” Commercial district for a proposed tractor trailer repair and tire service center. (Staff Contact: Lidon Pearce, Principal Planner) ]
AS YOU MENTIONED, THIS IS FOR A BASE ZONING FROM AGRICULTURAL TO C COMMERCIALS.WHILE THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING, THE TIRE REPAIR COULD CHANGE USE.
YOU'RE NOT LOCKING THEM INTO THAT WITH THE C COMMERCIAL RECOMMENDATION.
THIS IS IN OUR REGIONAL OFFICE AND COMMERCIAL AREA OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AS YOU SEE THERE ON YOUR SCREEN.
THAT'S THE RED, AND THEN THE PURPLE IS EMPLOYMENT GROWTH, WHICH IS WHERE WE HAVE OUR BUSINESS PARK TYPE USES. CURRENTLY ZONED AG.
THESE ARE SOME OF THE USES THAT ARE ALLOWED IN COMMERCIAL.
THIS IS NOT EVERYTHING, BUT SHOWING YOU.
AUTO-RELATED USES ARE ALLOWED IN C COMMERCIAL, BAKERIES, CABINET SHOPS, CLOTHING, MANUFACTURING, CONVENIENCE STORES, GREENHOUSES, REPAIR SHOPS.
WHAT WOULD REQUIRE AN SUP WOULD BE ANY AMUSEMENT, INDOOR, AN ANIMAL POUND FACILITY LIKE A KENNEL, A LIQUOR STORE, WAREHOUSE, GAS WELL, TATTOO STOPS, OR A TAXIDERMY ZOO.
I'M NOT 100% SURE WHAT THAT IS, BUT IT'S IN OUR ZONING CODE.
THAT WOULD REQUIRE THEM TO COME AND ASK FOR AN SUP IF THEY DECIDED TO CHANGE WHAT THEIR INTENT IS TO A DIFFERENT USE.
WE SENT A PUBLIC HEARING NOTICE TO ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 300 FEET, I POSTED A SIGN ON THE PROPERTY.
WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY INQUIRIES ABOUT THIS. I TAKE THAT BACK.
WE RECEIVED ONE CALL BECAUSE I WAS CONFUSED BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT IT WAS A DIFFERENT PROPERTY, BUT THEY WERE NOT OPPOSED TO IT.
THEY WERE JUST CONFUSED BY THE ADDRESS ON THE LETTER.
WHEN STAFF LOOKS AT THIS, WE LOOKED AT, DOES IT MEET THE COMP PLAN? THE COMP PLAN CALLS FOR COMMERCIAL? THERE ARE REQUESTING COMMERCIAL.
WE LOOKED AT THE ZONING DISTRICT, WE LOOKED AT WHAT'S OUT THERE.
IF YOU SEE ON YOUR SCREEN, THERE IS A GAS WELL.
THERE WAS SOME NON-CONFORMING COMMERCIAL USES THAT HAPPENED IN THE PAST.
YOU DO HAVE COMMERCIAL USES THAT ARE TO THE EAST ALONG THE HIGHWAY THERE.
WE LOOKED AT THE SITE, WHAT'S ADJACENT TO IT, WHAT'S EXISTED, WHAT'S CURRENTLY THERE IN THE COMP PLAN.
WITH ALL THOSE THINGS TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION, WE WOULD RECOMMEND APPROVAL BECAUSE IT MEETS THE COMP PLAN, AND IT IS NOT HIGHLY VISIBLE AREA FROM THE INTERSECTION.
IF YOU DROVE OUT TO THERE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU DID, BUT YOU WOULDN'T EVEN SEE IT FROM THE HIGHWAY, YOU GOT TO DRIVE AND GO DOWN.
WITH THAT, WE MADE A RECOMMENDATION ON APPROVAL FOR YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION, AND I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
WE ALSO HAVE MR. FELIX WONG HERE, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE APPLICANTS TEAM.
>> [INAUDIBLE] MR. WONG, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK?
>> YES, MY NAME IS FELIX WONG FOR THE RECORD.
MY ADDRESS IS 2604 IN [INAUDIBLE] TEXAS.
[INAUDIBLE] HAS TOLD ME THAT HE'S GOING TO COUPLE OF BASES AND HE [INAUDIBLE] AND
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I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING AND HE NEEDED TO SPEAK FOR [INAUDIBLE]>> CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 6:46 P.M. AND [INAUDIBLE]
>> [INAUDIBLE] THE PRESENTATION GENERAL GUIDELINES IN THE COMMUNITY [INAUDIBLE] EXECUTIVE SESSION OF THE JURY AT 6:46 P.M.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.