[1.CALL TO ORDER]
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I'M GOING TO OPEN THIS SESSION UP AT 5:30.
DID I GET IT RIGHT? OKAY. PASTOR WITH SEVENTH DAY ADVENTIST, HE'S GOING TO GIVE US OUR INVOCATION.
WOULD EVERYBODY PLEASE RISE FOR THE INVOCATION AND ALSO OUR PLEDGES? GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
THAT BRINGS US TO OUR EXCITING SECTION TWO PUBLIC PRESENTATIONS TONIGHT.
WE HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL.
[2.A. Proclamations]
2A IS PROCLAMATIONS.THERE IS A PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING ENGINEER'S WEEK ON FEBRUARY 18TH THROUGH THE 24TH, 2024.
NOW THEREFORE BE RESOLVED THAT I, CHRIS FLETCHER, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF BURLESON AND CITY COUNCIL, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM FEBRUARY 18TH THROUGH THE 24TH OF 2024 AS ENGINEER'S WEEK IN THE CITY OF BURLESON.
MR. THOMPSON, DID YOU HAVE A PRESENTATION? NO PRESENTATION.
WE WANTED TO KEEP IT SHORT AND SWEET, BUT I DO HAVE SOME ENGINEERS.
ENGINEERS ON STAFF THAT WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD.
[2.B. Presentations]
MAYOR AND COUNCIL, THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM 2B AND COUNCILMEMBER VICTORIA JOHNSON WILL ANNOUNCE THIS ITEM.THIS EVENING WE HAVE REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE BURLESON CHARACTER COUNCIL WITH US, AND I WOULD LIKE TO CALL UP MISS JERI MCNAIR AND MISS PAT [INAUDIBLE] TO SPEAK WITH US AND TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE CHARACTER COUNCIL AND TO MANY COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO LEARN WHAT THE CHARACTER COUNCIL IS AND WHAT A WONDERFUL INITIATIVE IT IS FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
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YEARS. A LOT OF YOU KNOW A LOT ABOUT THIS ALREADY, AND SOME OF YOU MAY NOT KNOW WHAT HAPPENS ON THIS SPECIAL DAY.I WANT YOU TO KNOW IT'S A PARTY IN BURLESON AND WE HAVE A GOOD TIME.
THE BURLESON CHARACTER COUNCIL WAS FOUNDED IN 1999 BY THE BURLESON INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT, THE CITY OF BURLESON, THE BURLESON MINISTERIAL ALLIANCE, AND THE BURLESON CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.
THOSE FOUR ENTITIES CAME UP WITH THE CONCEPT OF CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
THE CHARACTER COUNCIL IS COMPOSED OF COMMUNITY LEADERS WHO WORK TOGETHER TO STRENGTHEN CITIZENS, FAMILIES AND OUR COMMUNITY BY PROMOTING AND CELEBRATING EXCELLENCE IN CHARACTER.
WHAT BETTER, WHAT BETTER EVENT COULD WE HAVE THAN CELEBRATING CHARACTER FOR OUR STUDENTS? AT THE ANNUAL CHARACTER LUNCHEON, THE CHARACTER COUNCIL RECOGNIZES STUDENTS IN BURLESON ISD, THOSE THAT ARE GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND SHOWING EXCEPTIONAL QUALITIES OF THESE FOUR CHARACTER TRAITS KINDNESS, INTEGRITY, ACCOUNTABILITY AND COURTESY, KINDNESS, INTEGRITY, ACCOUNTABILITY, AND COURTESY.
WE GIVE AWARDS TO STUDENTS WHO EXEMPLIFY THOSE CHARACTERISTICS.
WE HAVE LITTLE ONES AND WE HAVE TEENAGERS THAT GET THIS AWARD.
THE BYRON BLACK CHARACTER AWARD IS ALSO PRESENTED, AND THAT IS A PERSON IN THE COMMUNITY WHO'S DEMONSTRATED OUTSTANDING CHARACTER, ALONG WITH ONE OTHER AWARD THAT WE GIVE, AND THAT AWARD IS THE JOHN MARK STALLINGS AWARD.
THAT AWARD IS GIVEN TO STUDENTS IN SPECIAL EDUCATION THAT EXEMPLIFY EXCELLENCE IN CHARACTER.
NOW, THIS YEAR'S LUNCHEON IS THURSDAY, MARCH 7TH AT 11:30 AT FIRST BAPTIST CHURCH OVER ON ELLISON, AND WE WOULD LIKE TO INVITE COMMUNITY MEMBERS, MEMBERS OF THE CHAMBER, TO JOIN US IN THIS EVENT.
I WANT YOU TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENS IS WE HAVE LOTS OF STUDENTS WITH LOTS OF FAMILY, AND THOSE FAMILY MEMBERS ARE SO EXCITED BECAUSE SOMETIMES THE STUDENTS THAT WE GIVE AWARDS TO ARE NOT STUDENTS THAT HAVE EVER GOTTEN AWARDS FOR ANYTHING ELSE IN SCHOOL, BUT THEY ARE BEING RECOGNIZED FOR THE CHARACTER THAT THEY DEMONSTRATE. WHAT A BEAUTIFUL TIME IN OUR WORLD TO HAVE CHARACTER CELEBRATED.
[CHUCKLING] SO JUST DON'T PUT ME UNDER YET.
IT REALLY IS SUCH AN HONOR TO BE HERE WITH JERRY TONIGHT.
I WAS IN THE DISTRICT AS A PRINCIPAL AT FRAZIER ELEMENTARY WHEN BYRON BLACK IS OUR MAYOR, AND [INAUDIBLE] BROUGHT THIS PROGRAM TO BURLESON, AND SOME OF YOU REMEMBER THAT, IT WAS JUST A WONDERFUL TIME, AND THROUGH THE YEARS, AS I WAS A PRINCIPAL AND THEN AS A SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER, THIS HAS BEEN MY THOUGHTS, AND I'M REALLY TRYING TO BE MORE VERBAL ABOUT IT.
IF EVER THERE'S A TIME IN OUR NATION WHEN WE NEEDED TO CELEBRATE NOT JUST THE ATHLETES OR THE ARTISTS OR THE STUDENTS THAT ARE, OUTSTANDING IN WHATEVER, WHICH WE ALL CELEBRATE THOSE THINGS.
I'M NOT KNOCKING THOSE AT ALL, BUT WE'VE GOT SOME KIDS, AND I'M NOT GOING TO PUT ANY OF YOU OR ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE ON THE SPOT, BUT WE MIGHT NOT HAVE ALL BEEN ON THE HONOR ROLL WHEN WE WERE IN SCHOOL, AND WE MAY HAVE HAD SOME DETENTIONS.
I SPENT QUITE A BIT OF TIME IN THE HALL FOR MY MOUTH.
OKAY, DIDN'T HELP BECAUSE I DIDN'T LIKE RECESS ANYWAY, BUT ANYWAY, BUT WE NEED TO CELEBRATE THESE KIDS, AND WHEN WE SEE THESE FAMILIES COME WITH PARENTS AND GRANDPARENTS, AND THEN WE SEE A COUPLE OF YEARS LATER, THAT SAME FAMILY BACK WITH ANOTHER CHILD, YOU KNOW, IT'S SO EXCITING TO GO TO THAT FAMILY AND SAY THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU'RE SENDING US.
YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE CAN'T DO IT BY OURSELVES.
IT TAKES A VILLAGE, AND I KNOW YOU KNOW THAT.
SO, COME ON, IF YOU CAN, YOU WILL GO AWAY WITH JUST THE MOST WONDERFUL THING, AND LET ME BRIEFLY TALK ABOUT THE JOHN MARK STALLINGS AWARD. IN 2010, PROBABLY MOST OF YOU REMEMBER COACH GENE STALLINGS WHEN HE WAS AT A&M IN ALABAMA,
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AND HE CAME TO BURLESON.WE HAD THE LUNCHEON AT THE BRICK, AND WE HAD THE COMMUNITY SHOWED UP FOR THAT ONE.
I PLUS ALL THIS, BUT HE HAD A SON.
HIS SON, JOHN MARK STALLINGS, AND HE TOLD US ABOUT THE CHARACTER OF JOHN MARK STALLINGS, AND THAT'S WHEN WE DECIDED AS A COMMITTEE, AS A CHARACTER COUNCIL, THAT WE NEEDED TO START THAT.
SO OUR SPECIAL ED TEACHERS ARE ASKED, THEY'RE GIVEN THE CRITERIA TO TELL US, YOU KNOW, RECOMMEND SOME STUDENTS IN THIRD GRADE THROUGH HIGH SCHOOL, WE WILL HONOR AN ELEMENTARY AND A SECONDARY STUDENTS THAT ARE WINNERS OF THE JOHN MARK STALLINGS AWARD.
SO IF YOU GET TO FEELING LIKE THAT WE'RE GOING DOWN THE TUBE AS A NATION OR WHATEVER, YOU WANT TO BE ENCOURAGED, PUT IT ON YOUR CALENDAR. WE'D LOVE TO SEE YOU.
WE'VE GOT SOME MORE PEOPLE FROM OUR CHARACTER COUNCIL HERE.
JERI, WE JUST STAND UP, PLEASE.
THESE ARE TWO OF OUR WONDERFUL MEMBERS AND ALSO VICTORIA JOHNSON AS ONE OF OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS.
VICTORIA, SO THRILLED TO HAVE VICTORIA ON THERE.
ALTHOUGH THERE ARE A NUMBER OF SEATS FILLED WITH THE CHILDREN AND THEIR SUPPORTIVE FAMILY MEMBERS THAT COME OUT, IT IS ALSO FUN TO SEE BUSINESS LEADERS AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO ALSO ARE INVESTED IN THIS COMMUNITY THERE TO CHEER ON.
I MEAN, I CALL IT THE FEEL GOOD EVENT OF THE YEAR.
IT JUST IT WARMS YOUR HEART TO SEE THAT THERE'S SO MUCH GOOD GOING ON IN THESE CHILDREN, AND INDIVIDUALS ARE RECOGNIZED FOR THE GOOD CHARACTER THAT THEY'RE SHARING WITH US IN THIS COMMUNITY, AND I THINK WE'RE JUST BLESSED TO LIVE IN BURLESON.
[2.C. Community Interest Items]
THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM TWO C COMMUNITY INTEREST ITEMS. WELL, TODAY WAS A PROJECT YOU AND BURLESON, WHICH IS A LEADERSHIP CONFERENCE THAT IS PUT ON.
THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT I'VE ATTENDED IT WITH SOME OF MY FELLOW COLLEAGUES TODAY, AND I WOULD SAY THAT IT WAS AN EXCELLENT PROGRAM AND FIRST, I WANT TO GIVE A BIG SHOUT OUT TO ALEX AND DREW AND JOANIE AND THE EDC TEAM AND EVERYBODY ELSE THAT HELPED PUT THAT ON.
WE HAD SOME GREAT SPEAKERS, SOME GREAT CALIBER SPEAKERS TODAY, AND ONE THING THAT WAS INTERESTING, I WAS TALKING TO ANOTHER ATTENDEE, AND YOU GO TO CHAMBER EVENTS AND YOU GO TO OTHER EVENTS AROUND THE CITY, AND YOU NOTICE A LOT OF THE SAME PEOPLE, WHICH IS GREAT AND SAME BUSINESS OWNERS AND THINGS, BUT HE NOTICED THAT AT THIS EVENT, THERE'S A LOT OF NEW PEOPLE AND PEOPLE THAT WE HAVEN'T REALLY SEEN ENGAGED IN THE CITY BEFORE, AND SO I THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING WE DEFINITELY SHOULD, AND HOLD ON TO THAT.
WE'RE REACHING OUT TO OTHERS, AND SO PUT IT ON YOUR CALENDAR NEXT YEAR.
SATURDAY, WE HAD THE HONOR AND PRIVILEGE HERE IN BURLESON OF HOSTING MRS. OPAL LEE, THE GRANDMOTHER OF JUNETEENTH, WHO CAME HERE FOR A BOOK SIGNING AND TO GET TO SEE US.
I HAD THE HONOR OF WELCOMING HER TO THE CITY, AND I DON'T THINK I HAVE SEEN IN ALL THE YEARS I'VE BEEN UP HERE THE COUNCIL AS FULL OF PEOPLE, AS IT WAS THAT DAY, AND NONE OF THEM WERE MAD AT US.
SO I THINK IT WAS A GREAT EVENT.
IT WAS AN HISTORICAL MOMENT FOR THE CITY TO MEET THIS PERSON WHO WILL GO DOWN IN HISTORY AS AMONG A LONG LINE OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE WORKED TOWARDS EMANCIPATION AND ACCEPTANCE AND FULL HONOR TO PEOPLE OF OUR POPULATION THAT GREATLY DESERVE IT, AND I'M VERY GLAD THAT WE HAD THE CHANCE TO DO THAT, AND I WANT TO SAY A SPECIAL SHOUT OUT TO COUNCILMEMBER ANDERSON, WHO FACILITATED THIS VISIT, AND I KNOW HE'S GOING TO HAVE SOME FURTHER WORDS TO SAY ABOUT IT. CITY FEST WAS GREATLY ATTENDED.
GOT TO TALK TO A LOT OF PEOPLE, AND, LIKE DAN SAID, NONE OF THEM WERE MAD THAT PARTICULAR NIGHT, SO I FIND THAT A VICTORY, BUT IT WAS A GREAT NIGHT. SO, WE APPRECIATE EVERYBODY THAT CAME TOO, AND I THINK THEY GOT SOMETHING OUT OF IT IF YOU CAME.
I JUST WANT TO PUT A LITTLE BIT MORE WITH WHAT DAN SAID, AND I APPRECIATE COUNCIL BACKING ME ON THIS, BECAUSE IT WAS AN EVENT WHERE I THOUGHT MAYBE TWO PEOPLE MIGHT SHOW UP OR 500.
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YOU A LITTLE QUOTE THAT SHE SENT ME BACK.WE HAD 20 PEOPLE THAT DONATED QUITE A BIT OF MONEY TO GET HER HERE AND TO BUY HER BOOKS.
WE ARE GOING TO SEND SOME BOOKS TO BISD.
ALL ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS WILL GET, FIRST THROUGH FIFTH GRADE EACH.
THE SPONSORS WERE CITY MARKET, FIRST METHODIST CHURCH, GREEN TEAM, MCMC, SARAH KING, ALLSTATE, DAN MCCLENDON, TEXAS OVERHEAD DOORS, LISA PRESSURE ROOFING.
THE SHIPMAN COMPANY, FIRST BAPTIST CHURCH, NISSAN.
OUR PLACE, JUSTIN AND ROCKY, DOCTOR LEE, WASTE CONNECTION, H-E-B AND EECU.
WE HAD FOOD THAT WAS DONATED SO THAT THE PEOPLE WOULD HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WHILE THEY CAME IN.
[INAUDIBLE] SALAD, PROVIDED SOME FOOD.
I HAVE TO HAVE ONE LITTLE SHOUT OUT TO HARLAN.
HARLAN WAS MY RIGHT HAND MAN IN THIS AND KEPT THE FIGURES FOR US AND WHAT WE WERE DOING AND DID A GREAT, TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF COMMUNICATION BETWEEN OPAL LEE'S GRANDDAUGHTER AND THE FINANCES AND SO FORTH.
SO THANK YOU, HARLAN, FOR THAT VERY MUCH.
DEANNA PHILLIPS, CHRISTINA STANTON, MARCUS JACKSON, SARAH MILLER IN THE LIBRARY, MARK DAVISON IN THE LIBRARY, AMANDA [INAUDIBLE] IN THE LIBRARY, AND NICOLE [INAUDIBLE] IN THE LIBRARY.
PARKS AND REC. ELIZABETH DAVISON, PARKS AND REC.
TREY APPLETON, IT AND JAMES [INAUDIBLE] IT.
I'D LIKE TO ALSO THANK THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
CHIEF CORDELL, A FANTASTIC JOB.
THE OFFICERS THAT HELPED, IN THIS EVENT WERE OFFICER HARVEY, ROCKERS RIGNEY HALL, AUSTIN [INAUDIBLE] AND [INAUDIBLE], AND THEY DID A FANTASTIC JOB.
SHE DIDN'T NEVER WANT ANY ASSISTANCE.
97 YEAR OLD, JUST AS SHARP AS A TACK.
DIDN'T WANT ANY HELP OUT OF HER CHAIR.
THREE POLICEMEN IN FRONT OF US AND SURROUNDING US, AND I DID HEAR A FUNNY STORY, BECAUSE MY WIFE WAS BEHIND ME, AND SHE HEARD ONE OF THE POLICE OFFICERS SAY, PLEASE GET HER ON THE SIDEWALK. SHE WAS JUST WALKING DOWN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD TO BABE'S CHICKEN, AND, BUT WE MADE IT.
IT WAS FINE. EVERYTHING WAS FINE, BUT LET ME JUST READ SOMETHING THAT SHE SENT.
BASICALLY, CHIEF, THIS IS TO YOU.
PLEASE CONVEY TO THE ENTIRE CITY HOW MUCH WE ENJOYED OUR TIME WITH THE CITY YESTERDAY.
I'VE NEVER FELT MORE SECURE IN A PUBLIC BUILDING IN ALL OF OUR TRAVELS.
WHICH WAS, PUT A SMILE ON YOUR FACE AND WE'LL ALL GET ALONG.
SO THANKS. I APPRECIATE IT EVERYBODY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE HAVE A COUPLE OF FUN COMMUNITY EVENTS COMING UP.
DOGS AND DONUTS EXTRAVAGANZA WILL BE MARCH 2ND FROM 9:30 TO 11 AT THIS IS THE BARK PARK, BUT I COULD HAVE SWORN I ALSO SAW IT AT CHISHOLM BAILEY LAKE, BAILEY LAKE.
SO MARCH 2ND, 9:30, BAILEY LAKE DOGS AND DONUTS.
THAT'S ALWAYS A WELL ATTENDED EVENT.
IT'S SO MUCH FUN, AND STAFF DOES A TREMENDOUS JOB WITH THAT.
OKAY, SO I GET THIS VOICE MESSAGE FROM A MR. JOHN EVANS.
I'M SORRY, ABLE TO THE PD AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND GRANDDAD SAID HIS HEAD WAS SO BIG BY THE TIME YOU GUYS GOT THROUGH WITH HIM, IT WAS AMAZING.
HE JUST RANT AND RAVED OVER HOW GREAT YOU WERE TO HIS GRANDKID.
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HE HAD HIS OWN FIREFIGHTER UNIFORM ON, AND NOW HE'S GETTING UP EARLY, GETTING READY TO GO TO WORK.THEY CAN'T KEEP HIM IN BED IN THE MORNING.
SO I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR TAKING THIS YOUNG MAN AND HOLDING HIM UP AND THAT'S A FUTURE.
HE'S GOING TO REMEMBER THIS THE REST OF HIS LIFE, AND I'M REALLY PROUD OF YOU GUYS FOR DOING THAT.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
EXCUSE ME. THAT BRINGS US TO SECTION THREE.
THREE A IS ITEMS TO BE CONTINUED OR WITHDRAWN.
THREE B IS ITEMS TO BE WITHDRAWN FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR SEPARATE DISCUSSION BY THE CITY COUNCIL STAFF OR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC IN ATTENDANCE AND ITEMS TO BE ADDED TO THE CONSENT AGENDA REQUIRE AN OFFICIAL VOTE BY THE CITY COUNCIL.
MR. CITY MANAGER, IS THERE ANY ITEMS TO BE CONTINUED OR WITHDRAWN?
[3.A. Items to be continued or withdrawn.]
MADAM SECRETARY, WE NEED TO REMOVE ITEM SEVEN A AND SEVEN B.THESE ITEMS WILL COME BACK AT A LATER DATE FOR DISCUSSION AND CONSIDERATION.
[4.CITIZENS APPEARANCES]
THAT BRINGS US TO SECTION FOUR CITIZENS' APPEARANCE.DURING THIS SECTION, A SPEAKER CARD MUST BE FILLED OUT AND TURNED IN TO THE CITY SECRETARY PRIOR TO ADDRESSING THE CITY COUNCIL, EACH SPEAKER WILL BE ALLOWED THREE MINUTES. EACH PERSON IN ATTENDANCE WHO DESIRES TO SPEAK TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON AN ITEM POSTED ON THE AGENDA SHALL SPEAK WHEN THAT ITEM IS CALLED FORWARD FOR CONSIDERATION.
IS THERE ANYBODY WHO WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON AN ITEM NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA THIS EVENING? AND I HAVE NO SPEAKER CARDS.
THAT'LL MOVE US ON TO SECTION FIVE CONSENT AGENDA.
[5.CONSENT AGENDA]
ALL ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA ARE CONSIDERED TO BE ROUTINE BY THE CITY COUNCIL, AND WILL BE ENACTED WITH ONE MOTION.THERE WILL BE NO SEPARATE DISCUSSION ON THE ITEMS AND APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA.
THE CONSENT AGENDA CONSISTS OF ITEMS FIVE A THROUGH FIVE M.
IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA? MOVE TO APPROVE. SECOND.
A SECOND BY RONNIE. PLEASE VOTE.
[6.A. 625, 631, and 637 Mockingbird Ln (Case 23-350): Hold a public hearing and consider approval of an ordinance for a zoning change request from “A”, Agricultural to “C" Commercial for existing commercial uses at 625, 631, and 637 Mockingbird Ln. (Staff Contact: Tony McIlwain, Development Services Director) (Planning and Zoning Commission recommended disapproval unanimously) ]
THAT BRINGS US TO SECTION SIX DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS.SIX A IS 625, 631 AND 637 MOCKINGBIRD LANE CASE 23-350.
THIS IS TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER APPROVAL OF AN ORDINANCE FOR A ZONING CHANGE.
YES. THANK YOU, MISS COMPOST AND GOOD EVENING COUNCIL.
THIS FIRST ITEM THAT WE HAVE ON THE AGENDA FOR YOU IS A ZONING REQUEST.
THE REQUEST ACTUALLY INVOLVES, TWO PROPERTY OWNERS, AS, DETAILED IN THE JOHNSON COUNTY RECORDS, AS WELL AS ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL, MR. STEPHEN MARTIN, WHO IS PART OF THE OWNERSHIP GROUP VIA A LEASE FINANCE WITH ONE OF THE OTHER OWNERS.
THE INTENT IS TO TAKE THE PROPERTY THAT YOU SEE HIGHLIGHTED IN BLUE, THE KWANZAA HUTS, AND CHANGE THE ZONING FROM AGRICULTURAL TO COMMERCIAL. THE INTENT IS FOR THE PROPERTY TO HAVE PERMANENT COMMERCIAL ZONING, AND TO PRESENT LESS OF AN OBSTACLE FOR BUSINESSES THAT CHOOSE TO, LOCATE WITHIN THE CONFINES OF THE STRUCTURES.
BY WAY OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THIS AREA IS DESIGNATED AS NEIGHBORHOODS AND IS ZONED AGRICULTURAL, AND OUR REVIEW OF THE CASE BECAUSE OF THE EXISTING USE, THE NONCONFORMING ASPECT OF THE PROPERTY.
THEREFORE, TONIGHT, IF YOU FIND A REASON TO, APPROVE THE REQUEST, IT WOULD BE NECESSARY FOR YOU TO MAKE A STATEMENT TO THE EFFECT OF WHETHER OR NOT THE ACTION IS, CONGRUENT WITH THE PLAN AND WHETHER OR NOT THERE IS A NEED FOR THIS TYPE OF USE IN THIS AREA. THIS IS A LAYOUT OF WHAT IS CURRENTLY ON THE SITE.
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CONSIDERED LEGAL NONCONFORMING.THE REQUEST FOR COMMERCIAL WOULD ALIGN WITH THOSE USES CURRENTLY IN PLACE BUT I WOULD ALSO SAY THAT AS THE USES COME AND GO, AS LONG AS THEY FALL WITHIN A RANGE OF ACCEPTABLE COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY, STAFF WOULD CONTINUE TO GRANT CERTIFICATES OF OCCUPANCY, AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO RAMP UP THE LAND USE TO SOMETHING LESS RESTRICTIVE, SUCH AS INDUSTRIAL USES, AND WE'RE ALSO NOT LOOKING TO HAVE ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT OCCUR ON THE PROPERTY THAT WOULD ENLARGE THE NONCONFORMING ASPECT OF THE SITE. LET ME GO BACK AND ADDRESS THE ACCESS EASEMENT THAT YOU HAVE ON THE SCREEN.
THAT DISCUSSION IS NOT BEFORE YOU TONIGHT, BUT WHAT I WOULD TELL YOU IS THAT, STAFF HAS BEEN ASSISTING TO THE EFFECT THAT WE CAN REGARDING ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE STATUS OF THAT ACCESS EASEMENT.
WHEN THIS WAS PRESENTED TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
AFTER THEIR DISCUSSION, THEY VOTED TO RECOMMEND DISAPPROVAL UNANIMOUSLY.
THE COMMISSION WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THE TIMING OF ADJACENT DEVELOPMENTS IN RELATION TO THE SITE.
THE SITE PREDATES A NUMBER OF THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS IN THE AREA AND HAS BEEN IN PLACE FOR, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY SINCE THE 80S, BUT MAYBE GOING BACK EVEN TO THE 1970S.
SO WE'VE HAD TWO SUBDIVISIONS THAT HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED ADJACENT TO THE SITE, WILLOW CREEK, AND ALSO HAVE LOOKED AT SOME OF THE MENTIONS OF THE SITE IN RELATION TO SOME OF THE ADJACENT ZONING THAT WAS DONE BY THE [INAUDIBLE] FAMILY. THERE WERE NO SPEAKERS AT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, AND STAFF IS UNABLE TO SUPPORT THE REQUEST.
IT'S INCONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THERE WERE ALSO DISCUSSIONS REGARDING THE IMPOSITION OF PERMANENT COMMERCIAL ZONING IN AN AREA THAT DOES NOT CURRENTLY SHOW ZONING IN THAT TYPE OF ZONING IN THE VICINITY, THERE WAS A SPOT ZONING DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD INTERNALLY.
I CAN TELL YOU THAT THERE ARE INDIVIDUALS HERE TONIGHT THAT ARE AVAILABLE.
IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS? THERE'S NO QUESTION I'LL OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 5:58.
MR. MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBERS, I APPRECIATE YOU ALL ALLOWING US TO BE HERE TONIGHT.
SO WE CAME WE BROUGHT OUR BUSINESS TO BURLESON IN 2017.
WE CAME INTO THIS PROPERTY AS A RENTAL TENANT.
WE WENT THROUGH THE CO PROCESS TO GET, YOU KNOW, ALL THE PROPER CHANNELS TO GET CO FOR OUR BUSINESS.
WE TOOK POSSESSION OF THE PROPERTY, I BELIEVE, A YEAR AGO.
AS A OWNER, FINANCE FROM THE EXISTING OWNER AT 625 AND 631.
WE'RE SIMPLY ASKING FOR TO BE ALLOWED TO CONTINUE TO USE THE PROPERTY AS IT'S BEEN USED, BUT, YOU KNOW, PART OF OUR BUSINESS MODEL IS, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO RENT ONE OF THE BUILDINGS, BUT AS I SAID, WE WERE TOLD THAT WE COULDN'T DO THAT BECAUSE OF THE NON-CONFORMING USE, AND THEY WOULDN'T ISSUE ANY ADDITIONAL COS SO YOU KNOW, WE UNDERSTAND THE, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR THE AREA, AND WE DEFINITELY APPRECIATE THE GROWTH THAT'S COME TO BURLESON.
I WILL SAY THAT THE DEVELOPMENT THAT CAME IN NEXT DOOR, IT BROUGHT A LOT OF TRASH TO THE PROPERTY.
IT BROUGHT THEFT, IT BROUGHT VANDALISM, AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT A GOOD THING FOR US, OBVIOUSLY, AND, YOU KNOW, THE PROPERTY THAT WE'RE IN, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND IT'S ON THE MAP, AS YOU KNOW, TURNING THAT INTO RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE, AND SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE,
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AND WE APPRECIATE Y'ALL TAKING THIS UNDER CONSIDERATION.I HAVE NO OTHER SPEAKERS AT THIS TIME.
IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL DURING THIS PUBLIC HEARING? I'M SEEING NONE.
MAYOR. I'D LIKE TO ASK FOR, CAN WE GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR LEGAL CONSULT ON THIS? YES. THANK YOU.
SO IF YOU'LL WAIT JUST A MOMENT, WE'LL WE'LL, I NEED TO CLOSE THIS, THOUGH FIRST, RIGHT? NO, SIR. WE'LL KEEP IT OPEN JUST IN CASE.
MOTION TO ADJOURN. MOTION TO ADJOURN.
IS THERE A MOTION TO ADJOURN INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO SECTION 551.071?
[10. RECESS INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION (Part 1 of 2)]
OKAY. IS THERE A MOTION ON THAT? MOVE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.WE HAVE A MOTION BY VICTORIA. SECOND BY PHIL.
[INAUDIBLE] INTO OPEN SESSION, PLEASE.
IS THERE A MOTION TO RECONVENE THE REGULAR SESSION? I'LL MOVE TO RECONVENE.
GOT A MOTION BY ADAM, A SECOND BY VICTORIA.
WE'RE BACK IN SESSION AT 6:10.
MAYOR. WE STILL HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN.
IS THERE ANYBODY WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE COUNCIL DURING THIS PUBLIC HEARING? I HAVE NO OTHER SPEAKER CARDS.
MAYOR, I WANT TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 6:10.
LET'S ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON THIS.
MAYOR. I MOVE TO DENY THE PETITION BASED ON THE FACT THAT IT DOES NOT MEET OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
A SECOND BY RONNIE. PLEASE VOTE.
THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM SIX B DOBSON TOWNHOMES CASE 23-003.
[6.B. Dobson Townhomes (Case 23-003): Consider approval of a site plan for Dobson Townhomes located at 200 S Dobson with a waiver to the development plan related to the maximum roof pitch for a Rural Farmhouse architectural style. (Staff Contact: Tony McIlwain, Development Services Director) (Planning and Zoning Commission recommended approval unanimously)]
THIS IS TO CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A SITE PLAN FOR DOBSON TOWNHOMES LOCATED AT 200 SOUTH DOBSON WITH A WAIVER.THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN RELATED TO THE MAXIMUM ROOF PITCH FOR A RURAL FARMHOUSE AGRICULTURAL STYLE.
THE STAFF PRESENTER IS ONCE AGAIN TONY MCILWAIN, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DIRECTOR.
MR. MCILWAIN. THANK YOU AMANDA.
IT'S THERE IN THE BLUE POLYGON THAT YOU SEE ON YOUR SCREEN, RIGHT ALONG EAST BEAUFORT STREET AND SOUTH DOBSON, WITH PAUL JENKINS AS THE OWNER OF THE SITE.
THIS IS A GRAPHIC THAT SHOWS WHAT THE ARCHITECTURAL TEAM TURNED INTO THE CITY FOR REVIEW FOR THE SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED TOWNHOMES.
UPON A REVIEW OF OUR OWN STANDARDS AND AT THE REQUEST OF THE ARCHITECTURE TEAM.
RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A RANGE BETWEEN 7 TO 12 TO 5 TO 12.
WITH REGARD TO HOW STEEP WE ALLOW YOUR ROOF, THEY WANT SOMETHING AT A 12 TO 12 PITCH, WHICH THEY THINK IS FROM AN ARCHITECTURAL STYLE, MORE CONSISTENT AND HAS A GREATER ESTHETIC ARCHITECTURAL TRUENESS TO A RURAL FARMHOUSE APPEARANCE.
SO I GOT STAFF THINKING AS FAR AS THE PICTURES THAT WE HAVE IN OUR CODE AND THESE PICTURES THAT YOU SEE ACTUALLY SEE THE ROOF PITCH STANDARD THAT WE ASKED PEOPLE TO MEET, WE ACTUALLY PUT ALL THE DIGITAL PROTRACTOR AND ACTUALLY DID A MEASUREMENT AND SO SOMETHING THE LAYPERSON WOULDN'T CATCH, BUT I THINK THE ARCHITECTURAL TEAM WAS SHARP ENOUGH TO CATCH IT, AND SO NEEDLESS TO SAY, WE'LL, MAKE REVISIONS TO SHOW SOMETHING TRUER TO THAT 5:12 TO 7:12 PITCH, BUT IN ANY CASE, THE DESIGN PROFESSIONALS, THE ARCHITECTS BELIEVE THAT THE 12 TO 12 CONFORMS MORE TO THE
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STYLE THAT THEY BELIEVE IS TRULY A, RURAL FARMHOUSE, HERE FOR OLD TOWN.SO THIS GRAPHIC JUST SHOWS YOU THE SLOPE RISE AND SPAN, OF, THE PITCH.
PITCH, TYPES THAT WE HAVE WITH THE 12 TO 12 BEING THE ONE, THE BOTTOM, RIGHT, AND SO IT'S JUST A STEEPER ROOF PITCH THAN 7 TO 12.
I THINK IT DOES CONFORM MORE WITH WHAT WE WOULD EXPECT TO SEE FROM A FARMHOUSE STYLE.
SO AGAIN, THIS IS A BREAKDOWN OF THE 12 TO 12 ROOF PITCH THAT WE'VE GOT THERE, MARKED OUT WITH THE SECOND FLOOR, DIMENSIONS AND, FIRST FLOOR DIMENSIONS.
IT GIVES YOU SOME IDEA OF HOW THE GABLES FIT THE ALIGNMENT OF THE WINDOWS, THE FENESTRATION AND HOW IT ALIGNS VERTICALLY, WITH THE ELEMENTS OF THE BUILDING, AND ALSO GIVES YOU SOME SCALE OF HOW THE, FRONT PORCH WOULD FIT IN WITH THE OVERALL DESIGN OF THE PROPOSED TOWNHOMES.
THAT'S FROM THE SIDE ANGLE, AGAIN, HAVE A NUMBER OF WINDOW FEATURES, AND YOU SEE THE ROOF ELEMENT AT THAT STEEP ANGLE, FROM THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING.
WE TOOK THIS ITEM TO OLD TOWN.
THEY SUPPORTED IT UNANIMOUSLY.
THEY SUPPORTED IT UNANIMOUSLY, AND THERE WAS A SLIGHT DISCUSSION ABOUT THE HEIGHT REGARDING THE STRUCTURES, AND THERE WERE NO SPEAKERS PRESENT FROM THE PUBLIC.
STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF THE WAIVER REQUEST.
WE THINK IT'S MINIMAL. WE ACTUALLY THINK IT IS A MORE ATTRACTIVE, APPEALING ASPECT TO HAVE A HIGHER ROOF PITCH FOR A RURAL FARMHOUSE ESTHETIC, AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. I DO HAVE MEMBERS OF THE ARCHITECTURAL TEAM HERE TONIGHT.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, REGARDING ANYTHING.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? I'D MAKE A COMMENT THAT WITH THIS, OBVIOUS, PLEASING APPEARANCE AND FAITHFUL, PRODUCTION OF A RURAL FARMHOUSE STYLE WITH A 12 TO 12 PITCH, THAT MAYBE WE OUGHT TO LOOK AT OUR STANDARDS.
I KNOW WE HAVE A REVIEW OF THAT COMING UP, SO I THINK WE SHOULD PERHAPS SEE IF WE NEED TO DO THAT.
TONY, I RESEARCHED THE DESIGN STANDARDS FROM 1900 TO 1920 FOR A RURAL FARMHOUSE.
YES. THE STANDARD ROOF IS A 12:12 PITCH.
YEAH, THAT'S WHAT THEY INFORMED US OF.
SO IT IS GOING TO BE INCLUDED IN WHAT YOU'LL SEE IN THE FUTURE HERE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? IS THERE A MOTION ON THIS? I HAVE A MOTION BY DAN.
A SECOND BY VICTORIA. PLEASE VOTE.
PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
THAT BRINGS US TO SECTION SEVEN GENERAL.
SEVEN A AND SEVEN B HAVE BEEN REMOVED FROM THE AGENDA.
[7.C. Consider approval of a contract with Dunaway Associates, LLC for design, engineering, and survey services for the parking lot addition and trailhead improvement at Oak Valley South Scott trailhead in the amount of $67,400. (Staff Contact: Jen Basham, Director - Parks and Recreation)]
AT OAK VALLEY SOUTH SCOTT TRAILHEAD IN THE AMOUNT OF 67,400.THE STAFF PRESENTED THIS EVENING IS JEN BASHAM, DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION.
MISS BASHAM. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
THIS EVENING WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS THE DESIGN CONTRACT FOR THE SCOTT STREET TRAILHEAD IMPROVEMENTS.
SO JUST A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON THIS PROJECT.
THIS WAS A FISCAL YEAR 2024 PROJECT.
IT'S BEEN ON THE BOOKS FOR TWO YEARS TO HAPPEN THIS FISCAL YEAR.
ORIGINALLY, THIS PROJECT HAD A RESTROOM INCLUDED AS PART OF THE SCOPE.
SO THIS IS THE EXISTING CONDITIONS OF THE SITE.
AS YOU CAN SEE THIS IS WHERE YOU WOULD ENTER FROM SCOTT STREET.
THIS IS IT'S ESSENTIALLY AS YOU CAN SEE FROM OVER HERE, WE'VE OVER THE YEARS THERE'S BEEN SOME, SOME TYPES OF IMPROVEMENTS DONE, BUT THERE'S NO CONCRETE SURFACING. THERE'S NO OFFICIAL PARKING LOT THERE.
IT'S JUST BEEN USED AS OVERFLOW.
OUR TRAILHEAD ENTERS RIGHT THROUGH HERE AND THE TRAIL CONTINUES TO GO ON.
SO IT'S A PERFECT MIDPOINT FOR US TO MAKE THIS.
THE FIRM THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING FOR THIS PROJECT IS DUNAWAY ENGINEERING.
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THEY ARE FROM OUR PRE-QUALIFIED VENDOR LIST, AND THEY DID AN INITIAL REVIEW OF THE PROJECT.SO THERE'S A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE COMPLIANT WITH ALL OF THOSE STANDARDS.
SO THEIR CONTRACT DOES INCLUDE PRELIMINARY SURVEY DESIGN FOR THE PARKING LOT ADDITION.
WHEN WE PRESENTED THIS AT PARK BOARD LAST WEEK, THEY ASKED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD SOME TYPE OF BYPASS FOR THE SIDEWALK AROUND THAT SO THAT IF ANYBODY IS JUST USING THIS JUST STRICTLY TO CONTINUE RUNNING A DIFFERENT DIRECTION, THAT THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO RUN THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF THE PARKING LOT.
WE BELIEVE WITH THE BUDGET ON THIS PROJECT, THAT'S WELL WITHIN OUR SCOPE ABILITIES, THEY'LL PROVIDE CONSTRUCTION PLANS AND SUPPORT, AND THEN, OF COURSE, ONCE WE'RE ACTUALLY IN CONSTRUCTION, THEY'LL DO PROJECT MANAGEMENT AND ADMINISTRATION AND THEIR CONTRACT COST IS 67,400.
WE'RE ANTICIPATING THAT HAPPENING THROUGH ABOUT APRIL AND APRIL WILL BID THAT PROJECT, AND WE'LL BRING IT TO PARK BOARD AND COUNCIL IN MAY OR JUNE, AND HOPEFULLY THIS WILL BE CONSTRUCTED AND OPEN IN AUGUST.
ANY QUESTIONS? JEN, DID YOU SAY IN THE FINAL DRAFT THAT YOU'RE GOING TO TRY TO CONTINUE THE TRAIL THROUGH THE PARKING LOT? YES. SO I'LL GO BACK TO THAT REAL QUICK.
SO AGAIN, THIS IS THIS IS NOT A FINAL DESIGN BY ANY MEANS.
SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IF YOU'RE ON THE TRAIL, YOU CAN CONTINUE USING THE TRAIL.
THERE ARE SOME WOODEN BOLLARDS ALONG THIS LINE RIGHT HERE.
WE'LL ALSO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE SHOWING SOME POTENTIAL PULL IN PARKING HERE.
MOST LIKELY THOSE WILL BE HANDICAPPED SPOTS, BUT WE'LL ALLOW FOR THE SIDEWALK IN FRONT OF THOSE SPOTS AS WELL, SO THAT PEOPLE DON'T HAVE TO RUN THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF THE PARKING LOT. SOUNDS GOOD.
ANOTHER COMMENT? YOU KNOW, BEING A CYCLIST AND GOING THROUGH THIS AREA QUITE FREQUENTLY, IT'S CLEAR THAT WE HAVE GREAT BIKING FACILITIES.
IN THE SHARED TRAIL FROM CHISHOLM HALL, WE HAVE BIKING LANES STRIPED UP TO OLD TOWN, BUT THERE'S NO CONNECTION FROM OLD TOWN WHERE THE TRAIL, OR THE ACTUALLY THE PROTECTED ZONE STOPS, TO GET OVER TO THE OAK VALLEY TRAIL TO CONTINUE YOUR RIDE.
YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A LOT OF CYCLISTS THAT USE THAT WHOLE AREA, AND THEY'RE BASICALLY JUST RIDING IN THE STREET AS IT IS NOW, BUT THAT'S JUST A MATTER OF SHARED LANES OR I DON'T THINK MANY OF THE STREETS HAVE ROOM FOR PROTECTED AREAS, I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE ROOM FOR ON STREET BIKE PATHS ON THESE SPECIFIC ROADS, BUT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, PARK BOARD'S REQUEST WAS TO SEE IF WE COULD DO SHARED USE.
THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? IS THERE A MOTION? I HAVE A MOTION BY DAN.
SECOND BY VICTORIA. PLEASE VOTE.
PASSES UNANIMOUS. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
[7.D.Recommend approval of a contract with We Build Fun, Inc as a sole source provider of Miracle products for improvement to Cedar Ridge Park in the amount of $278,314. (Staff Contact: Jen Basham, Parks and Recreation Director)]
IMPROVEMENTS TO CEDAR RIDGE PARK IN THE AMOUNT OF $278,314 STAFF PRESENTER IS JEN BASHAM, PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR.ALL RIGHT. SO YOU MISSED THE FRONT SIDE, BUT SO WE'LL GO THROUGH OUR PROCESS THIS EVENING FOR THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT AND THE SELECTION OF A PLAYGROUND IMPROVEMENTS FOR CEDAR RIDGE PARK. THE BACKGROUND ON THIS ONE.
SO THIS WAS AGAIN ANOTHER 2024 PROJECT.
WE'RE TRYING TO GET ALL OF OUR PLAYGROUNDS, REPLACED.
WE STILL HAVE QUITE A FEW THAT ARE PRE-2010, SO THIS IS ONE OF OUR OLDER ONES.
THE BUDGET FOR THIS PARK IS $280,000.
THE PAST FEW YEARS WHAT YOU'VE SEEN ON ALL OF OUR PARKS IS THEY'VE BEEN 200 TO 250 IN THE LAST YEAR.
THE DIRECTION HAS REALLY BEEN WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT OUR PARKS ARE INCLUSIVE AND THAT WE'RE ACCESSIBLE, AND SO WE'VE UPPED ALL OF THOSE BUDGETS TO INCLUDE EITHER POUR IN PLACE OR RUBBERIZED ARTIFICIAL TURF SURFACING.
SO WE THIS BUDGET FOR THIS SPECIFIC PARK IS 280,000.
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WE DID COMPLETE TWO ROUNDS OF SURVEY.ALL THE BREAKDOWN OF THOSE SURVEYS IN JUST A SECOND.
ON THE FLIP SIDE, ON THE STAFF'S PERSPECTIVE OR THE STAFF PROCESS SIDE IS WE CONTACTED NINE DIFFERENT PLAYGROUND MANUFACTURERS WITH THAT INITIAL, FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY, AND THEY ALL PROVIDED US WITH CONCEPTS.
SO FOR CEDAR RIDGE SPECIFICALLY, SEVEN CONCEPTS WENT TO THE COMMUNITY FOR VOTING.
SO IN OUR FIRST ROUND OF SURVEY, WE HAD 168 RESPONDENTS.
THAT SURVEY WAS OPEN FOR THREE WEEKS.
SO WE HAD ABOUT 375 RESPONSES, AND THEN ONE OF THE ELEMENTS THAT WE ADDED THIS YEAR WAS WE SPECIFICALLY REACHED OUT TO USER GROUPS OF PEOPLE WITH SPECIAL NEEDS. SO WE REACHED OUT TO BISD SPECIAL ED PROGRAM.
WE REACHED OUT TO THE CENTER FOR ASD.
WE REACHED OUT TO FIT ABILITIES.
JESSICA REAM, SHE'S ACTUALLY ONE OF OUR YOGA INSTRUCTORS, BUT SHE ALSO RUNS A BUSINESS THAT HELPS PEOPLE EXERCISE WITH DIFFERENT ABILITIES, AND THEN WE ALSO TALKED WITH OUR ADA CITIZEN COMMITTEE.
DOESN'T MEAN THEY TAKE THE SURVEY, BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY AT LEAST KNEW THAT IT EXISTED.
SO FOR THE FIRST ROUND OF SURVEYS, WE SAID, ARE YOU A RESIDENT? ARE YOU NOT? OVERWHELMINGLY, YES, THEY WERE RESIDENT, AND THEN WE ASKED, DO THEY ACTUALLY VISIT CEDAR RIDGE PARK? THIS IS A VERY SMALL PARK.
IT'S TUCKED IN A NEIGHBORHOOD, AND SURPRISINGLY, WE HAD A FAIR AMOUNT THAT, YOU KNOW, ATTENDED WEEKLY OR MONTHLY, AND THEN AT LEAST MOST OF THE PEOPLE THAT TOOK THIS SURVEY HAD BEEN THERE AT LEAST ONE TIME, AND 37 HAD NEVER BEEN, AND THEN WE CHANGED OUR QUESTION.
IN THE LAST YEARS WE USED TO ASK, DO YOU HAVE KIDS? THEN WE REALIZED PARENTS AREN'T THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT TAKE THEIR KIDS TO PARKS.
SO WE ASKED, YOU KNOW, DO YOU TAKE KIDDOS TO THE PARKS? DO YOU ARE YOU A GRANDPARENT? ARE YOU A PARENT? ARE YOU A BABYSITTER? ARE YOU A NANNY? ARE YOU TAKING KIDS TO THESE PARKS? BECAUSE THAT COULD SWAY HOW YOU PROBABLY RESPOND TO THESE, AND SO OVERWHELMINGLY, OF COURSE, THAT ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION WAS A YES, AND THEN WE THE SECONDARY QUESTION WAS, WHAT ARE THE AGES OF THE KIDDOS THAT YOU BRING? THEN WE CHANGED THIS ONE UP AS WELL THIS YEAR.
SO WE USED TO GIVE LIKE A VISUAL REPRESENTATION OF DIFFERENT EXAMPLES, AND IT WAS DIFFICULT FOR THE COMMUNITY TO RESPOND BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT THAT WAS THE SPECIFIC TUNNEL OR THAT WAS THE SPECIFIC SLIDE BUT FOR THIS FIRST ROUND OF SURVEY, WE WANTED TO KNOW, DO YOU WANT A SLIDE? DO YOU WANT SWINGS? AND PEOPLE CAN MOST OF THE TIME REALIZE THAT THEMSELVES, AND SO AS YOU CAN SEE ON THIS SURVEY, THEY WANT SWINGS.
SO WE'VE GOT SWINGS, SLIDES RIGHT BELOW THAT.
WE'VE GOT TUNNELS AND FORTS AND THEN WE'VE GOT FREESTANDING EQUIPMENT.
WE DID HAVE 13 RESPONDENTS RESPOND THAT THEY WOULD LOVE TO SEE, TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE ARE FEATURES FOR PEOPLE WITH SPECIAL NEEDS, AND THEN WE TOOK THAT BASED ON THAT COMMUNITY FEEDBACK.
WE ASKED, YOU KNOW, THIS PLAYGROUND IS REALLY SMALL.
SO WE SAID IF WE WERE TO PUT A PLAYGROUND, THAT'S FOR KIDDOS 0 TO 3, WHAT WE INTERNALLY CALL TOT LOT, IS THAT SOMETHING YOU WOULD SUPPORT? THE BIG THING WITH A TOT LOT IS THE SIZE OF THE AMENITIES, THE SCALABILITY, BUT ALSO THAT IT'S FENCED IN.
THIS PARK IS LOCATED BETWEEN A DRAINAGE AREA AND THE STREET WITH NO PARKING, AND SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE IF WE ARE GOING TO SPEND SOME OF OUR FUNDS TO FENCE THIS PARK IN, THAT IT'S WHAT THE COMMUNITY IN THAT AREA WOULD WANT, AND THAT WAS A YES AS WELL.
SO WE MOVED ON TO SURVEY TWO AND I'LL SHOW YOU THE CONCEPTS HERE IN A SECOND.
NOT A LOT OF QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE, BUT WE ASKED IF THERE BURLESON RESIDENT.
OVERWHELMINGLY YES, AND THEN WE ASKED SPECIFICALLY, DO YOU LIVE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD? AND THIS ONE WE GOT THE OPPOSITE.
MOST OF THE PEOPLE THAT VISIT THIS PARK OR WANT TO SEE IMPROVEMENTS HERE DIDN'T LIVE SPECIFICALLY IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT THEY DO LIVE IN THE CITY OF BURLESON, WHICH MEANS THEY COULD VISIT THIS PARK.
I WON'T BREAK DOWN ALL OF THEM, BUT THEY'RE HERE FOR YOU TO SEE.
THEY ALL HAVE EITHER FULLY FENCED OR HYBRID FENCE.
SO THEY FENCED THE TOT LOT VERSION AND OR PORTION, AND THEY'VE HAD THE OTHER AREAS OPEN.
THEY ALL PROVIDE SOME LEVEL OF SHADE.
THEY ALL HAVE INCLUSIVE AMENITIES AND DIFFERENT OPTIONS FOR KIDDOS OF DIFFERENT AGE, AND SO OVERWHELMINGLY, MIRACLE WAS OUR WINNER ON THIS ONE, AND I WILL BREAK THAT DOWN, AND WHAT THAT INCLUDES.
SO WHAT? YOU CAN SEE THE BIG THING THAT I THINK PEOPLE REALLY HYPED ABOUT, THIS IS WHAT WE DON'T HAVE CURRENTLY IN OUR SYSTEM IS A ZIP LINE, AND SO THIS IS A TWO LINE ZIP LINE. THIS ONE YOU RIDE EITHER SEATED WITH YOUR LEGS WRAPPED AROUND OR YOU DO STANDING WITH YOUR FEET, AND THEN THIS IS A FIVE POINT HARNESS SO IT'S FULLY ACCESSIBLE.
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THIS SURFACING IS ARTIFICIAL TURF SURFACING.WE ALSO HAVE SOME MUSICAL PLAY AMENITIES, AND THEN WE HAVE A FULLY ACCESSIBLE INCLUSIVE AREA THAT IS SHADED AND THEN WE HAVE AN OLDER KIDDO AREA THAT IS YOUR, YOU KNOW, MORE ABLE BODIED.
IF I CAN CLIMB, IF I CAN RUN, IF I CAN JUMP, IF I WANT TO GO DOWN A SLIDE, I'VE GOT THIS, BUT YOU'VE GOT EXPERIENCES FOR EVERYONE ON THIS ONE, AND THEN OUR BENCHES ARE SHADED AS WELL, AND THESE ARE JUST SOME DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES OF IT.
THERE'S SOME SIDEWALK IMPROVEMENTS THAT NEED TO OCCUR.
SO WE'RE WORKING WITH PUBLIC WORKS TO ENSURE THAT THOSE SIDEWALK CUTS ARE DONE AT THE SAME TIME.
SO THIS IS A BREAKDOWN OF THE FEATURES.
WE'VE GOT ARTIFICIAL TURF SURFACING.
ALL OF OUR SWINGS. WE WILL INCLUDE A STANDARD AND AN ADA GLIDE ALONG OUR.
WE HAVE CLIMBERS. WE HAVE A CLIMBING WALL FOR SENSORY OR IMAGINATIVE PLAY.
SO WHEN WE THINK OF INCLUSIVE, WE ARE THINKING BIGGER THAN JUST SOMEONE WHO'S PHYSICALLY DISABLED, BUT WE'RE THINKING OF PEOPLE WITH SENSORY PROCESSING ISSUES, WITH ADHD, WITH AUTISM, THE GAMUT, AND SO THAT WHOLE SECTION WITH THE MUSIC PANELS, IMAGINARY PLAY PANELS AND MANIPULATIVE PLAY PANELS, THOSE ARE REALLY GREAT FOR PEOPLE WITH SENSORY ISSUES, AND THEN OUR INCLUSIVE FEATURES ARE THAT ADA GLIDE ALONG OUR GROUND PANEL ACTIVITIES AND THEN TRANSFER ACCESS, AND THEN THE BIG THING, THE NUMBER ONE THING THAT WE RECEIVE ON ALL OF OUR SURVEYS IS PLEASE PUT SOME SHADE AND SO YOU SEE THAT MOST OF OUR PLAYGROUND IS SHADED ON THIS ONE, AND STAFF RECOMMENDS THIS AS WELL AS PARK BOARD.
QUESTIONS. I DO WANT TO SHARE MY APPRECIATION FOR THE EFFORTS MADE TO REACH OUT TO GROUPS AND BE PROACTIVE IN SEEKING THEIR INPUT, BECAUSE IT'S INVALUABLE, AND SOMETIMES LIFE GETS BUSY AND YOU MISS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH IN ON A SURVEY, OR YOU DON'T RECOGNIZE THE OPPORTUNITY THAT YOU HAVE IN WEIGHING IN ON THAT SURVEY.
I LOVE THAT IT HAS ELEMENTS THAT WE DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE IN OUR PARK SYSTEM.
ONE REQUEST BECAUSE I THINK SWINGS ARE POPULAR.
I WAS DEFINITELY ONE OF THOSE SWING VOTERS, BECAUSE MY KIDS LOVE TO SWING, AND, BUT I WOULD LIKE FOR US THE NEXT TRADITIONAL, I GUESS, SWING SET TYPE TO NOT JUST LOOK AT A HARNESS SWING, BUT ONE THAT WE CAN.
SO I KNOW THAT I'VE SEEN THE PLATFORM SWINGS WHERE A WHEELCHAIR CAN BE STRAPPED ONTO THAT.
I DON'T KNOW IF THE, REQUIREMENTS FOR SPACE, BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAVE TO HAVE SO MUCH RADIUS AND STUFF BECAUSE WHEN OUR HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION INSTALLED OUR PARK, WE COULDN'T GET SWINGS BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH SPACE FOR ITS SWINGING, BUT JUST SOMETHING TO PUT IN OUR, YOU KNOW, EVERY TIME WE'RE CHIPPING AWAY, I THINK, AT MAKING EFFORT TO MAKE THINGS MORE ACCESSIBLE, AND WE ALL KNOW HOW MUCH I LOVE PARKS, BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, I LOVE SEEING EVERYONE OF ALL ABILITIES BE ABLE TO PLAY AND INTERACT TOGETHER, AND SO EVERY INCH WE CAN MAKE IN THAT, IN THAT PROGRESS, THE BETTER.
SO WE'VE BEEN LOOKING INTO THAT AND I THINK IT'S GOING TO TRANSITION.
YOU MAY SEE A DIFFERENT TYPE OF SWING MOVING FORWARD.
THE ONE THAT YOU'VE SEEN THAT SOMETIMES THEY FENCE OFF.
THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF VANDALISM OR CHALLENGES WITH, BUT THEY'RE COMING UP WITH NEW VERSIONS OF THAT.
SO WE'LL SEE THAT. WE PRESENTED ANOTHER PARK TO PARK BOARD AS WELL, AND THAT WAS ONE OF THEIR REQUESTS WAS TO LOOK INTO THAT, AND SO WE'LL BE TRYING TO FIND A WAY TO PEPPER THAT IN. MY DAUGHTER, ONE OF HER CLOSEST FRIENDS IS USES A WHEELCHAIR FOR ACCESSIBILITY AND, BUT SHE'S GETTING OLDER AND IT'S MORE AND MORE DIFFICULT FOR HER FAMILY TO BE ABLE TO DO SOMETHING LIKE PICK HER UP AND PUT HER IN A SWING, AND WE WANT HER TO FEEL INCLUDED AS WE DO ANY CHILD WITH ALL ABILITIES TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS THE EQUIPMENT THAT WE PUT OUT THERE BECAUSE IT'S FOR EVERYONE.
JEN, I'VE GOT A QUESTION. I KNOW THE PARK IS IS GREAT.
THE KIDS ARE GOING TO LOVE IT.
I CAN TELL BY THE AMENITIES ON THERE THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A BLAST.
I MEAN, IF THAT WAS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD WHEN I WAS GROWING UP, I WOULD I WOULD HAVE LIVED THERE.
THE ONE QUESTION I HAVE AND THE CONCERN IS ON THE SURVEYS.
I'VE NOTICED THEY'RE PRETTY CONSISTENT.
THE NUMBERS ARE GOING FROM PARK TO PARK TO PARK.
AS FAR AS DO YOU LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD? DO YOU DON'T? IT'S USUALLY 150 TO 40 OR 149 TO 51.
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DON'T OR DO SO.IS THERE ANY WAY TO GET THE NEIGHBORHOOD MORE INVOLVED WHERE THE PARK IS? DEPENDS ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
IF THEY HAVE AN HOA, IT'S REALLY EASY FOR US TO REACH OUT TO THE HOA.
IF THEY HAVE A FACEBOOK PAGE, IT'S REALLY EASY FOR US TO DO THAT.
WHEN WE DO SHANNON CREEK, WE SENT OUT MAILERS.
WE DID THE SAME THING FOR OTHER PARKS.
IF WE KNOW THAT THERE'S AN AMENITY THAT'S NEW, TYPICALLY IF IT'S A PLAYGROUND REPLACEMENT, WE DO THE TRADITIONAL SURVEYS, BUT IF IT'S WE'RE ADDING NEW AMENITIES, IF WE'RE ADDING A SPORTS COURT OR A PARKING LOT OR LIGHTING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, IF YOU BACK UP TO THAT PARK, WE INDIVIDUALLY REACH OUT AND PUT A DOOR HANGER ON YOUR DOOR AND DO A TOWN HALL TO SAY, HEY, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THIS IS COMING TO YOUR BACKYARD.
WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT IT? OKAY, OTHER THAN THAT, IT'S GENERALLY ON THE WEB, THE CITY WEB PAGE, AND THEY GO THERE AND FILL OUT THE SURVEY.
HOW DO THEY KNOW WHEN THE SURVEYS UP AND WHEN IT'S RUNNING FOR THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD? SO WE SEND IT OUT THROUGH OUR EMAIL BLAST SYSTEM, WHICH HAS OVER 5000 SUBSCRIBERS TO IT.
WE POST IT TO OUR SOCIAL MEDIA PAGES.
WE PUT IT IN OUR FRIDAY REPORT.
IT'S ON OUR PARKS LANDING PAGE.
WE PUT A BIG HEADER AT THE TOP THAT SAYS OUR SURVEYS ARE CURRENTLY LIVE FOR THESE TWO PARKS.
PLEASE GIVE US SOME PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, AND THEN OF COURSE, WE REACHED OUT THIS YEAR SPECIFICALLY TO THOSE STAKEHOLDERS THAT WE KNEW PROBABLY WEREN'T LOOKING AT OUR WEBSITE FOR THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.
OKAY. I'D JUST LIKE TO FIGURE OUT A WAY IF THERE IS A WAY, IF NOT, THERE'S NOT.
HOW TO GET THE LOCAL CITIZENS AROUND THE PARK MORE INVOLVED IN THEIR OWN PARK? YES, SIR. IF IF YOU'RE DOING ALL YOU CAN, THAT'S ALL WE CAN DO.
ONLY WHEN YOU ASK FOR THE USE OR FIGURED OUT THE USE OF IT AT OAK VALLEY, THE USE OF THAT PARK IS PROBABLY TRIPLED, MAYBE EVEN MORE. YOU DID A GREAT JOB ON THAT.
I SAW YOUR NUMBERS. IS THERE A SCHOOL CLOSE BY ON THIS ONE? BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE WE GET THE KIDS IN OAK VALLEY.
I WAS LIKE, I'M BLANKING ON THE NAME OF IT, BUT YES, THERE IS AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
THEY HAVE THEIR OWN PLAYGROUND, BUT YEAH, THERE IS ONE CLOSE BY.
WHEN THEY GET OUT OF SCHOOL, THEY GO TO THE THEY CAN RUN.
OKAY. SO YOU DID A GREAT JOB ON THAT.
YEAH. YEAH, AND ON THE THREE AND UNDER AREA.
WHAT'S THE DOWNSIDE OF NOT DOING THAT.
IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE IT'S A NO BRAINER TO HAVE THAT.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERY PARK HAS A DIFFERENT EXPERIENCE AND THERE'S GOING TO BE ELEMENTS THAT ARE SAME, RIGHT? LIKE WE'RE GOING TO DO SWING SETS, WE'RE GOING TO DO, SLIDES, WE'RE GOING TO DO THOSE TRADITIONAL THINGS BUT NOT ALL OF OUR PARKS HAVE A SPECIFIC AREA FOR LITTLES, AND THIS PARK WAS SMALL AND WE KNEW WE COULD FENCE IT IN, AND SO IT MADE PERFECT SENSE TO US TO PUT A TOT LOT IN THIS ONE, AND IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SEE IS REALLY, REALLY POPULAR AS A SPECIFIED AREA, IT MAY BE SOMETHING WE BRING FORWARD IN THE FUTURE AS JUST EVERY PARK THAT WE DO.
I REALLY LIKE THAT. I THINK THAT'S BETTER.
ANYBODY ELSE? IS THERE A MOTION ON THIS? HAVE A MOTION BY VICTORIA, A SECOND BY PHIL.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
THAT BRINGS US TO SECTION EIGHT REPORTS AND PRESENTATIONS.
[8.A.Receive a report, hold a discussion, and provide staff feedback regarding an update on the City Sidewalk Program. (Staff Contact: Errick Thompson, Director of Public Works & Engineering)]
EIGHT A IS TO RECEIVE A REPORT, HOLD A DISCUSSION AND PROVIDE STAFF FEEDBACK REGARDING AN UPDATE ON THE CITY'S SIDEWALK PROGRAM.THE STAFF PRESENTED THIS EVENING IS ERIC THOMPSON, DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS AND ENGINEERING, MR. THOMPSON.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
LAST MONTH, WE PROVIDED AN UPDATE ON THE SIDEWALK PROGRAM TO THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE, AND TONIGHT, WE WOULD LIKE TO GET FULL COUNCIL'S FEEDBACK ON, SOME PRIORITIES FOR THE NEAR TERM FOR CONTINUING THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE SIDEWALK PROGRAM.
THIS SLIDE, THESE FIVE BULLETS KIND OF GIVE YOU THE OUTLINE OF WHAT I PLAN TO PRESENT TO YOU THIS EVENING AND PROBABLY THAT LAST BULLET IS THE MOST IMPORTANT.
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SO AS YOU'RE ALREADY AWARE, THE 2022 GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND PROGRAM INCLUDED JUST UNDER 1.3 MILLION FOR THE SIDEWALK PROGRAM.YOU MIGHT ALSO RECALL THAT LAST SUMMER, COUNCIL APPROVED ACCELERATING ALL OF THAT FUNDING INTO THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR IN ORDER TO SUPPORT A LARGE GRANT APPLICATION THAT WE'LL TALK ABOUT IN JUST A MINUTE.
THEY OPENED THAT PROGRAM IN DECEMBER OF 22.
STAFF, WITH THE HELP OF A LOCAL CONSULTANT, DEVELOPED AN APPLICATION.
THE PROJECT AND THE APPLICATION WOULD HAVE BEEN A TOTAL OF $16 MILLION, SIDEWALK PROJECT OR MULTIPLE PROJECTS COMBINED INTO ONE, WITH THE CITY CONTRIBUTING 20% OR ABOUT 3.2 MILLION, IN ORDER TO GET THE CITY'S MATCH.
UNFORTUNATELY, THE CITY'S APPLICATION WAS NOT SUCCESSFUL, BUT HAD IT BEEN WE, THE PROJECT WOULD HAVE BASICALLY LARGELY COMPLETED THE TEN MILE LOOP AND ADDRESSED A NUMBER OF HIGH AND MEDIUM PRIORITY SIDEWALK PROJECTS THAT WERE INCLUDED IN THE MOBILITY PLAN.
SO THIS IS ACTUALLY AN EXHIBIT OUT OF THE APPLICATION.
SO THIS WAS SHOWN TO COUNCIL BACK IN MAY BEFORE WE PROVIDED THE APPLICATION.
SO ALL OF THOSE LETTERS KIND OF DESIGNATE OR DENOTE COMPONENTS OF THE TEN MILE LOOP OR SPECIFIC SIDEWALK COMPONENTS THAT WERE IN THE APPLICATION, AND THEN NOW WE HAVE IN BLUE NUMBERS ONE THROUGH FOUR THAT REPRESENT THE OPTIONS SHOWN ON THE LEFT.
SO THESE ARE KIND OF COMPONENTS OF SIDEWALK PROJECTS THAT WE FEEL LIKE WE COULD MOVE AHEAD.
IN THE NEAR TERM, AND THIS IS PART OF WHAT WE NEED YOUR FEEDBACK ON.
NEXT FEW SLIDES WILL KIND OF RUN THROUGH THOSE FOUR OPTIONS REALLY QUICKLY.
OPTION ONE IS RIGHT OUTSIDE CITY HALL HERE.
IT STARTS AT WILSON AND GOES DOWN TO WILSHIRE.
WOULD ADD SIDEWALK, A FIVE FOOT SIDEWALK ON THE NORTH SIDE OF RENFRO.
IT ALSO OVERLAPS THE SPECIFICALLY FUNDED PROJECT AT RENFRO AND JOHNSON THAT HAS SOME TIF FUNDING.
SO WE'RE BASICALLY TRYING TO LEVERAGE THAT FUNDING TO MAKE A BIGGER PROJECT AND GO FURTHER.
TOTAL OVERALL COST WOULD BE ABOUT 650,000 FOR ABOUT 2100FT OF SIDEWALK AND SOME OTHER PEDESTRIAN CROSSING SIGNALS. AT JOHNSON AS WELL.
THE NEXT OPTION IS VAUGHN DRIVE.
THIS WOULD ADD SIDEWALKS BETWEEN SUMMER CREST AND MCNAIRN.
SO ONE SIDE OF THE STREET, 1600 LINEAR FEET OF FIVE FOOT WIDE SIDEWALK AT ABOUT $275,000.
OUR NEXT OPTION IS PLEASANT MANOR.
SO THIS WAS TO ADD ABOUT 500FT OF SIDEWALK AT A COST OF ABOUT 100,000.
THIS WAS PRESENTED TO TWO COMMITTEES LAST MONTH, THE COMMUNITY AND INTERGOVERNMENTAL RELATIONS COMMITTEE, AS WELL AS INFRASTRUCTURE AND DEVELOPMENT, AND IT WOULD BASICALLY CONNECT THE HERITAGE VILLAGE TRAIL PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE WITH EXISTING SIDEWALKS TO THE SOUTH, ALONG LINWOOD AVENUE, AND THEN THE FOURTH OPTION, THIS IS CINDY LANE.
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SO I'VE MENTIONED A COUPLE OF TIMES THAT WE WENT TO I&D COMMITTEE LAST MONTH.SO THIS SLIDE KIND OF SUMMARIZES THE ORDER OF PRIORITY THAT THE COMMITTEE GAVE US.
SO RENFRO BEING THEIR FIRST PRIORITY.
VAUGHN DRIVE AGAIN ONE SIDE OF THE ROAD, NOT BOTH SIDES, AT 275,000, AND THEN PLEASANT MANOR.
THOSE THREE ARE JUST UNDER THE 935,000 IN CONSTRUCTION FUNDING AVAILABLE, AND THIS ALSO WOULD USE THE TIF FUNDING THAT'S ALLOCATED TO THE RENFRO JOHNSON PROJECT.
SO NEXT YEAR AND THEN CONSTRUCTION FUNDING THE FOLLOWING YEAR IN FY 26, AGAIN AS PART OF THE STRATEGY OF COMING UP WITH THE CITY MATCH FOR THE GRANT APPLICATION, WERE WE TO BE SUCCESSFUL.
THIS PROJECT WAS ALSO ACCELERATED INTO FY 24 SO THAT WE WOULD HAVE THE MATCH FUNDING AVAILABLE NOW THAT WE DID NOT, GET SELECTED FOR THE GRANT, WE COULD PUSH THIS PROJECT BACK TO ITS ORIGINAL SCHEDULE, OR LEAVE IT IN THE CURRENT YEAR.
I WILL NOTE THAT IT TOUCHES TXDOT TWICE.
SO ON THE WILTSHIRE END AND AS WELL AS ON THE JOHN JONES END.
SO AGAIN, THIS IS ANOTHER SIDEWALK PROJECT.
IT'S GOT A LOT OF SIDEWALK ELEMENTS IN IT THAT WE WOULD LIKE YOUR FEEDBACK ON.
SO TONIGHT WE'RE LOOKING FOR FEEDBACK IN THREE PRIMARY AREAS.
SHOULD WE REVERT ALL OF THE FUNDING BACK TO WHERE IT WAS IN THE PREVIOUS FIVE YEAR PLAN, OR JUST KEEP IT WHERE IT IS AND IMPLEMENT BASED ON YOUR PRIORITIES? THEN IF WE ARE TO KEEP THE FUNDING IN THE CURRENT YEAR, WHAT WOULD BE YOUR PRIORITIES? SO ON THE RIGHT SIDE, WE'VE SHOWN THE PRIORITIES OF REPEATED THE PRIORITIES FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO KEEP IT WHERE IT IS? POTENTIALLY DO PART OF IT NOW OR REVERT IT BACK TO ITS ORIGINAL SCHEDULE.
SO WITH THAT, I'LL BE QUIET AND, TAKE ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
ERIC, I HAD A COUPLE OF COMMENTS.
YOU CAN GO BACK TO IT, TO FILL IN THE GAPS THAT WE HAVE.
THIS BRINGS, PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC ALL THE WAY FROM 174 TO THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL AND THE CROSSING AT WILSON STREET, WHICH IS WONDERFUL. IT'D BE GREAT TO HAVE THAT, BUT I THINK WE'RE MISSING A LITTLE BIT OF A SEGMENT.
THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDED TO THE SCOPE OF THIS, WHEN THIS PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC LEAVES OLD TOWN AND GOES UP TO WILSHIRE AND CROSSES OVER, THEY HAVE NO PLACE TO GO.
IT WOULDN'T TAKE A WHOLE LOT MORE, BUT IF WE CAN CONNECT GOING UP RENFRO STREET, PAST, THE SHOPPING CENTER, THAT'S THE, YOU KNOW, THE OLD HALLMARK.
IF WE CAN DO THAT, THEN WE'RE CONNECTING TO SIDEWALK ON RENFRO.
THAT RUNS ALL THE WAY TO ALSBURY AND WELL BEYOND.
SO WE HAVE A SHORT SEGMENT THERE THAT WE CAN IMPROVE THAT PROJECT WHILE WE'RE IN THE AREA WORKING.
SO, THAT WAS COMMENT NUMBER ONE.
COMMENT NUMBER TWO, THE NON-LISTED OPTION OF THE ELK DRIVE.
WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO, I'D SUGGEST DOING AND I'D SEE WHAT THE OTHER COUNCILMEMBERS THINK.
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WHEN WE CONSTRUCTED THE SIDEWALK CONNECTION FROM THE HIGH SCHOOL DOWN TOWARDS WILSHIRE, WE ANTICIPATED THAT WE WERE GOING TO MAKE A CROSSING THERE, A BRIDGE OVER THE LITTLE DRAINAGE DITCH, AND THEN A SEMI-PROTECTED CROSSING TO GET OVER TO THE OTHER SIDE, THINKING THAT WE WOULD GO, ON DOWN TO WILSHIRE ON THAT SIDE BUT WE ALL KNOW THAT THE SIDEWALK CROSSING ON WHAT WILL BE THE SOUTH SIDE OF ELK DRIVE THERE IS JUST NOT FEASIBLE BECAUSE OF THE DRAINAGE STRUCTURES THAT ARE ALL THERE.I WANT TO TAKE THAT LITTLE RED SECTION OF SIDEWALK THAT'S SHOWN ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THIS SCREEN OF THIS SLIDE, AND SEPARATE THAT FROM THIS CONTRACT AND GO AHEAD AND CONSTRUCT IT IN AS CLOSE TO THE IMMEDIATE FUTURE AS WE CAN, BECAUSE WE'RE MISSING SOME REALLY IMPORTANT LINKAGE THERE BETWEEN THE HIGH SCHOOL AND THE NEIGHBORHOODS OVER ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF WILSHIRE, BEHIND THE POLICE STATION.
THERE'S A LOT OF TRAFFIC THERE, A LOT OF FOOT TRAFFIC THERE THAT COULD USE IT.
THERE'S ALREADY A PROTECTED, PEDESTRIAN CROSSING WITH THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL THERE, BUT LIKE THE OTHER LOCATIONS ON A LOT OF WILSHIRE, THEY CAN GET ACROSS THE STREET, BUT THEN THEY GOT NOWHERE TO GO FROM THERE.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THAT SEGMENT OUT AND MAKE THAT A PRIORITY, AS WELL.
I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP, MAYOR PRO TEM, I WAS GOING TO ASK THE EXACT SAME THING IF WE HAD ANY NUMBERS ON THAT LITTLE PORTION, BECAUSE, LIKE HE SAID, WE BUILT A A CUTE LITTLE BRIDGE OVER THE DRAINAGE AND THERE'S SOME SIDEWALK, AND THEN WE JUST LEFT IT, AND THE KIDS FROM THAT SCHOOL WALK, THAT IS, THERE'S A LOT OF FOOT TRAFFIC OVER THERE, AND WE HAVE THEM JUST STANDING IN DRAINAGE, WALKING ALL IN THE GRASS AND SO IT JUST MAKES THE MOST SENSE.
IF WE COULD COMPLETE THAT SECTION, I WOULD BE MUCH IN FAVOR OF THAT.
VERY ROUGH NUMBER. I'D PROBABLY SAY IN THE 250 TO MAYBE 275 RANGE, BECAUSE WE WILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE TXDOT COORDINATION AND THEY MIGHT WANT SOME MINOR ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW AND SOME OTHER THINGS. SO IT'LL BE A LITTLE MORE EFFORT, BUT I THINK WE COULD ABSOLUTELY DO THAT.
WELL, AS MR. MCCLENDON ALREADY SAID, IF WE'RE REACHING OUT TO TEXTILE, LET'S SEE HOW MUCH WE CAN GO AHEAD AND JUST.
OKAY, WHILE WE HAVE YOU ON THE LINE, WHAT WOULD IT TAKE TO DO THIS ONE, TOO? YEAH, THEY'LL TREAT EACH PROJECT SEPARATELY, BUT I MEAN, THIS IS WHAT WE DO.
I APPRECIATE THAT LOOKING AT ALL FOUR LOCATIONS WITH HALF OF VAUGHN, LOOKS LIKE YOU'VE GOT AROUND 95,000 LEFT OVER OUT OF THAT 1.4 MILLION, AND THAT WOULD GO A LONG WAYS TOWARDS WHAT DAN SUGGESTED.
IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET SOME EXTRA FUNDING? WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR EXTRA FUNDING.
OKAY, SO I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING SPECIFIC TO REPORT RIGHT NOW, BUT WE DO ANTICIPATE ANOTHER, SIDEWALK GRANT PROGRAM FROM THE COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS, SOMETIME THIS YEAR.
SO WE WILL DEFINITELY BE KEEPING OUR EYES.
GREAT. THANK YOU. ERIC, WHEN WE GET DENIED ON A GRANT, DO WE EVER GET AN EXPLANATION OR SORRY YOU DIDN'T HAVE THIS OR THAT? I MEAN, I'VE ASKED THIS BEFORE, BUT I DON'T THINK I'VE EVER GOT AN ANSWER ON IT.
DO WE KNOW WHY? YOU KNOW, ANY TIME IN BUSINESS, IF YOU DON'T GET SOMETHING, YOU FIGURE OUT WHY AND FIX IT, BUT WHEN WE GET DENIED, DO WE HAVE ANY INDICATION OF WHY WE WILL HAVE A MORE SPECIFIC RESPONSE FROM THEM FOR YOU ON THAT? VERY HIGH LEVEL. THERE WERE PROBABLY A LITTLE OVER FOUR TIMES THE NUMBER OF APPLICATIONS AS THERE WAS FUNDING AVAILABLE, AND THIS WAS A STATEWIDE THING.
SO THEY HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE TO GET BACK TO BUT WE'RE WORKING TO GET YOU A BETTER ANSWER FROM THEM ON WHY WE DIDN'T MAKE THE CUT.
I LIKE YOUR ANYTHING THAT A LOT OF CHILDREN WHERE THEY GO TO SCHOOL.
A LOT OF THEM ARE ON SUMMER CREST.
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IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING BACK UP THERE TOWARDS THE BRICK AND GOING THROUGH THAT NEIGHBORHOOD RIGHT THERE ON VAUGHN.I LIKE THAT LIKE DAN'S IDEA COMING HERE ON RENFRO.
YEAH. I'M IN FAVOR OF SIDEWALKS ANYWHERE WE CAN BUILD THEM SO CHILDREN CAN GET ON.
EVEN THAT TRAFFIC, THAT ROAD WHERE DAN'S TALKING ABOUT ACROSS 174.
UNLESS THE SCHOOL DISTRICT HAS CHANGED.
WHEN I WORKED THERE, EVERYTHING ON THAT SIDE, WHERE THAT, GROCERY STORE IS ALDI, EVERYTHING ON THAT SIDE GOES TO CENTENNIAL. IF THEY CHOOSE TO GO TO BURLESON, THEY CAN CHOOSE TO, BUT EVERYTHING ON THAT SIDE BURLESON CENTENNIAL AND BURLESON HEIGHTS, EXCEPT SEPARATED BY 174 AND THOSE KIDS THAT LIVE WITHIN A QUARTER OF A MILE OF BURLESON HIGH SCHOOL HAD TO GET A BUS AND GO TO CENTENNIAL.
IN THAT WAY, THERE'S A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF PEOPLE GO TO ALL THE WAY TO, HIDDEN CREEK PARKWAY.
THERE'S HARDLY ANY SIDEWALKS GOING IN THERE AT ALL.
OKAY. A LOT OF KIDS WALK THERE.
SO THANKS FOR THE INCLUDING THE KIDS IN THIS BECAUSE THEY NEED A LOT OF HELP.
WHEREVER SCHOOL IS, THEY NEED SIDEWALKS.
NOW IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING YOU NEED TO KIND OF PRIORITIZE THESE OBJECTS, THESE PROJECTS.
SO I THINK WHAT I'VE HEARD WAS KIND OF THE SAME OPTION OR PRIORITIES AS THE COMMITTEE PROVIDED.
PLUS ADDING THE THAT ONE PIECE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF WILSHIRE AT ELK.
IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON THIS? YOU HAVE WHAT YOU NEED.
I HAVE IT, THANK YOU. THANK YOU GARY.
THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM EIGHT B.
[8.B.Receive a report, hold a discussion, and provide staff feedback regarding the Wayside Horn project planned for the Union Pacific Railroad (UPRR) crossing of CR 714. (Staff Contact: Errick Thompson, Director of Public Works & Engineering)]
THIS IS TO RECEIVE A REPORT, HOLD A DISCUSSION AND PROVIDE STAFF FEEDBACK REGARDING THE WAYSIDE HORN PROJECT PLANNED FOR THE UNION PACIFIC RAILROAD CROSSING AT COUNTY ROAD 714.THE STAFF PRESENTER IS ONCE AGAIN ERIC THOMPSON, DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS AND ENGINEERING, MR. THOMPSON. WELL, THANK YOU AGAIN.
A LITTLE BIT LONGER PRESENTATION THIS TIME, BUT A VERY IMPORTANT PROJECT NONETHELESS.
WE'RE GOING TO THE PLAN FOR THIS PRESENTATION IS TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON A PROJECT THAT'S LINGERED FOR AT LEAST SINCE 2016, AND ONE FORM OR ANOTHER, AS INDICATED ON THIS COVER SLIDE, IT DOES INVOLVE A RAIL AT GRADE RAIL CROSSING OF THE UNION PACIFIC RAILROAD TRACKS, AND WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT HORNS AND NOISE AND WHAT WE CAN DO ABOUT THAT.
BASED ON THE LATEST STATS AVAILABLE FROM THE FEDERAL RAILROAD ADMINISTRATION, THERE WERE OVER 2200 COLLISIONS IN 2022, AND THEN IF YOU LOOK AT THE TABLE TO THE RIGHT, TEXAS ACTUALLY HAS MORE COLLISIONS THAN ANY OTHER STATE BASED ON THAT 2022 DATA, THE LATEST AVAILABLE.
THERE ARE THESE THINGS CALLED THE TRAIN HORN RULES THAT REQUIRE LOCOMOTIVES ENGINEERS TO SOUND THEIR HORNS APPROXIMATELY A QUARTER OF A MILE BEFORE THEY GET TO AN AT GRADE CROSSING, AND AS YOU'LL SEE IN A IN A COUPLE OF SLIDES WITH THE NUMBER OF CROSSINGS IN OLD TOWN ON JUST ON THIS TRACK ALONE, THERE ARE FOUR AT COMMERCE, RENFRO, ELLISON AND ELDRIDGE.
SO YOU CAN IMAGINE THERE'S A LOT OF.
YOU'RE AWARE THERE'S A LOT OF HORN NOISE TO DEAL WITH, AND THEN THERE'S ALSO THIS CROSSING AT COUNTY ROAD 714 TO THE SOUTH OF OLD TOWN. ON AVERAGE, THIS IS A LITTLE BIT DATED, BUT ABOUT 26 TRAINS USE THOSE TRACKS AT 714 THROUGH BURLESON DAILY.
THOSE TRAIN HORN RULES ALLOW COMMUNITIES TO ALSO MAKE SOME IMPROVEMENTS AT THE CROSSING.
THAT IF YOU MEET CERTAIN CRITERIA, YOU CAN ACTUALLY ELIMINATE THE SOUNDING OF THE TRADITIONAL HORN.
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THAT'S USUALLY WHAT'S CALLED THE QUIET ZONE PROJECT.SO FOR THE CROSSINGS THAT WE JUST MENTIONED THAT YOU'LL SEE IN A COUPLE OF SLIDES, WE'VE ACTUALLY IMPLEMENTED A QUIET ZONE PROJECT SO THAT THE TRADITIONAL HORN ISN'T SOUNDED AT ALL AT THOSE CROSSINGS.
COUNTY ROAD 714 WAS IN LINE TO ALSO GET QUIET ZONE TREATMENT, BUT THE REST OF THIS PRESENTATION, YOU'LL SEE HOW IT'S HIT SOME SNAGS. THAT'S MADE US KIND OF SHIFT AND PIVOT TO LOOKING AT A WAYSIDE HORN INSTEAD.
SO BACK IN 2016, CITY COUNCIL APPROVED A CONTRACT TO DESIGN AND PERMIT THESE FIVE QUIET ZONES.
THOSE CONSTRUCTION PLANS WERE SUBMITTED TO THE RAILROAD FOR THEIR REVIEW, BECAUSE THEY ALSO HAVE TO PROVIDE COST ESTIMATES FOR ANY INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS THAT NEED TO BE MADE TO THE RAILROAD ITSELF, IN ORDER TO FACILITATE THE QUIET ZONE PROJECT.
SO AGAIN, STARTING AT THE NORTH AND WORKING DOWN SOUTH COMMERCE STREET.
THIS WAS COMPLETED IN FALL OF 2019.
IT WIDENED THE PAVEMENT, ADDED SOME NEW TRACK IN ADDITION TO THE ADDITIONAL EQUIPMENT TO ENHANCE TRAFFIC SAFETY AT THE CROSSING.
I WILL NOTE THAT THERE ARE ALSO SOME REVISIONS TO THIS PARTICULAR CROSSING UNDERWAY NOW AS PART OF A NEIGHBORHOOD STREET REBUILD PROJECT THAT WILL HELP FACILITATE LARGE TRUCK TRAFFIC TURNING MOVEMENTS AT AT THE CROSSING, AND YOU'LL SEE HOPEFULLY IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS.
A CROSSING AGREEMENT WITH THE RAILROAD TO, TO GET THAT PROJECT ACTUALLY COMPLETED.
MOVING A LITTLE FURTHER SOUTH.
RIGHT DOWN THE STREET HERE ON RENFRO.
THAT QUIET ZONE WAS COMPLETED IN FALL OF 2022.
SO YOU'LL SEE THE FROM THE AREA.
YOU'VE GOT MORE DIVIDERS BETWEEN DIRECTIONS OF TRAFFIC.
THAT QUIET ZONE WAS COMPLETED IN WINTER OF 20.
THE NEXT, THE FURTHEST SOUTH IN OLD TOWN, WAS COMPLETED IN FALL OF 19.
SO HERE YOU SEE THESE BRIGHT YELLOW CHANNELIZING DEVICES, COUNTED DOWN THE CENTER OF THE LANES AND AGAIN, THAT WAS COMPLETED IN FALL OF 2019.
SO SAME EXHIBIT BUT THE FOUR TO THE NORTH THEY'RE ALL COMPLETE SO THEY'RE SHOWN IN GREEN, BUT THEN WE'VE GOT COUNTY ROAD 714 AND DOBSON THAT'S STILL PENDING.
JUST UNDER 1.2 MILLION ON THESE TO DESIGN AND COMPLETE THE FOUR LOCATIONS, PLUS DESIGNING THE QUIET ZONE AT COUNTY ROAD 714. THE QUIET ZONE THAT HASN'T BEEN BUILT, AND WE'LL GET INTO WHY IT HASN'T BEEN BUILT IN JUST A MINUTE.
A LITTLE MORE BACKGROUND ON THIS PARTICULAR CROSSING AND LOCATION.
SO THE AREAS IN BLUE ARE CITY MAINTAINED AND THEN THE AREA IN RED, INCLUDING THE CROSSING AT THE 90 DEGREE TURN, WHICH IS REALLY JUST EAST OF THE CROSSING, IS ALL COUNTY MAINTAINED.
THE PICTURE TO THE RIGHT KIND OF SHOWS THE CITY LIMITS IN BLUE.
SO THIS IS AN EXHIBIT OF WHAT THE QUIET ZONE FOR THIS CROSSING WOULD HAVE LOOKED LIKE.
IT'S GOT VERY RELATIVELY DIFFICULT GEOMETRY TO OVERCOME.
IT'S GOING TO BE A LITTLE MORE CHALLENGING FOR TRUCK TRAFFIC.
SO THAT RESULTS IN THE NEED TO ACTUALLY ACQUIRE RIGHT OF WAY.
IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER IS NOT VERY ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT, A POTENTIAL ACQUISITION AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, THE COST. BACK IN 2019 WAS ESTIMATED AT $700,000, AND AGAIN, WE'VE SPENT JUST UNDER 1.2 MILLION ON THE OTHER FOUR. SO THIS IS SIGNIFICANTLY BEYOND WHAT ANYONE ANTICIPATED.
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SO SINCE THE QUIET ZONE SEEMED TO BE COST PROHIBITIVE, THE CITY CONTRACTED WITH ANOTHER SPECIALTY CONSULTANT TO DO KIND OF A NOISE STUDY IN 2021.LOOKING AT THE POTENTIAL OF A WAYSIDE HORN.
THAT WOULD ALLOW A DIFFERENT HORN, NOT THE TRADITIONAL TRAIN'S ENGINE HORN, TO BE USED, WHICH WOULD BE MUCH LESS NOISE THAT WE'LL SEE IN JUST ANOTHER SLIDE OR TWO. SO IT BASICALLY INSTALLS ADDITIONAL HORNS THAT ARE STATIONARY AT THE CROSSING AND DIRECTS THAT, THAT SOUND AT THE STREET, NOT TO THE NEIGHBORHOODS OR OFF THE TRACKS.
SO STAFF PRESENTED ORAL STAFF MET WITH RESIDENTS IN THE AREA IN THE SUMMER OF 21, AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE RESIDENTS AGREE THAT THE WAYSIDE HORN WOULD BE MUCH QUIETER AND DEFINITELY PREFERRED OVER THE TRADITIONAL TRAIN HORN, BUT THERE IS NO EXPECTATION WAS REALLY THE QUIET ZONE, WHICH WOULD BE NO NOISE AT ALL.
FALL 2021 STAFF PRESENTED THE WAYSIDE HORN OPTION TO CITY COUNCIL WITH AN ESTIMATED CONSTRUCTION COST OF 250,000, NOT 700 OR 900,000, AND COUNCIL'S DIRECTION WAS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE WAYSIDE HORN.
THIS CHART GIVES A LITTLE IDEA OF KIND OF THE LEVELS OF NOISE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
THAT'S IN THE 95 TO 110 DECIBEL RANGE, KIND OF SIMILAR TO A ROCK GROUP IN SOME INSTANCES, THE WAYSIDE HORN, A LITTLE BIT QUIETER, BUT THE REAL BENEFIT IS WHERE THE SOUND IS DIRECTED, AND YOU, I'LL SHOW YOU THAT IN JUST A SECOND, BUT IT'S IN THE 80 TO 95 DECIBEL RANGE, AND IT'S MORE SIMILAR TO TYPICAL STREET TRAFFIC.
THIS EXHIBIT OR THESE EXHIBITS SHOW YOU ON THE LEFT.
KIND OF THE SOUND PRODUCED BY THE TRADITIONAL TRAIN HORN.
THE EXHIBIT TO THE RIGHT SHOWS YOU WHAT THE WAYSIDE HORN WOULD LOOK LIKE.
YOU SEE, THE 90 PLUS DECIBEL IS REALLY JUST RIGHT AT THE CROSSING, YOU KNOW, LESS THAN 100FT FROM THE ACTUAL CROSSING, AND THEN THE YELLOW AREA A LITTLE MORE, LITTLE LESS NOISY.
IT EXTENDS MORE, BUT NOT BEYOND, LIKE 500FT FROM THE CROSSING.
SO AGAIN, THE NOISE, OR THE CONSULTANT THAT STUDIED THE NOISE, DEVELOPED THIS EXHIBIT AS WELL THAT SHOWS, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT HOMES IN THE, IN THE ALONG VALLEY CREST AND HOW MUCH NOISE THEY WOULD EXHIBIT WITH THE WAYSIDE HORN OPTION, AND SO HOMES APPEAR TO BE IN THE, YOU KNOW, YELLOW OR GREEN AREA AND IT'S ONLY RIGHT AT THE CROSSING WHERE IT'S IN THE RED AREA OF CLOSE TO 100DB.
SO CONTINUE ON WITH THE TIMELINE AND SPRING OF 22, THE CITY CONTRACTED WITH TRANSIT SYSTEMS TO DESIGN THIS CROSSING AS A WAYSIDE HORN PROJECT THAT WAS ABOUT A LITTLE UNDER 40,000.
DECEMBER OF 22 THAT WE SUBMITTED 100% PLANS TO THE RAILROAD SO THAT THEY COULD REVIEW THE PLANS AND THEN PROVIDE THEIR COST ESTIMATES FOR ANY CORRESPONDING INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WOULD NEED TO BE IMPROVED.
THAT WOULD ALSO BE CITY'S COST, AND WE ESTIMATED THAT [INAUDIBLE] WOULD PROBABLY BE ABOUT 150,000, EXCLUDING THE RAIL IMPROVEMENTS.
SO IN AUGUST OF 23, WE HEARD BACK, AND IT'S.
345,000 FOR THE RAILROAD INFRASTRUCTURE THAT THEY WILL REQUIRE TO BE IMPROVED AS PART OF IMPLEMENTING WAYSIDE HORNS HERE, AND THEN IN DECEMBER 23RD, WE, WE HAD SOME, SOME MORE CONVERSATIONS TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WOULD ALL BE CITY COSTS, AND YES, THE FINAL ANSWER IS IT'S CITY COST.
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ADD-ONS FROM THE RAILROAD FOR THEIR INSURANCE AND TESTING AND THAT KIND OF THING.WE CURRENTLY HAVE 334,000 REMAINING.
WHICH GIVES US A DEFICIT OF ABOUT 215,000.
WE ACTUALLY, I THINK WE CAN ACTUALLY FUND THIS 215, BY SOME, UNALLOCATED CAPITAL FUNDING THAT'S, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD A FEW PROJECTS THAT ENDED AND THERE WAS, YOU KNOW, A FEW DOLLARS HERE AND THERE.
SO WE'VE BASICALLY SCRAPED ALL THAT TOGETHER, AND, WE HAVE, WE THINK WE CAN JUST COVER THIS 215 IF THAT'S THE COUNCIL'S DIRECTION. SO NEXT STEPS, WE HAVE TO GET THE RAILROAD CROSSING AGREEMENT AND COORDINATE THE LEGAL REVIEW OF THAT.
WE WANT TO HAVE A MEETING WITH JOHNSON COUNTY HERE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS, TO EXPLORE WHETHER OR NOT WE'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION BEFORE, AND THERE WASN'T REALLY AN INTEREST IN PARTICIPATING IN THE COST, BUT WE'LL ASK THE QUESTION AGAIN, AND THEN HOPEFULLY APRIL, WE WOULD BRING FORWARD THE RAILROAD AGREEMENT AND ALSO APPROPRIATE THIS FUNDING THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN ORDER TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT FUNDING AND GET CONSTRUCTION PROCUREMENT UNDERWAY. HOPEFULLY JUNE OR THE SUMMER, WE'D HAVE THE CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT BACK BEFORE YOU AND START WORK, AND IF ALL GOES WELL, COMPLETE THE PROJECT IN JANUARY WITH A WAYSIDE HORN.
THAT WOULD AGAIN BE MUCH QUIETER FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND WITH THAT, I'LL TAKE QUESTIONS.
I'M GOING TO START THE DIALOG HERE.
I DON'T THINK ANY OF US HAVE EVER BEEN REALLY HAPPY WITH THE HORN SOLUTION TO THIS AND I KNOW THE NEIGHBORS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAVE NOT BEEN.
I WAS OUT THERE WHEN THE SOUND TESTING WAS BEING CONDUCTED TO HEAR FOR MYSELF WHAT DIFFERENCE IT MAKES TO HAVE A WAYSIDE HORN VERSUS THE TRAIN HORN BLOWING, AND YOU STILL HEAR A HORN? YOU DON'T HEAR IT QUITE AS LOUD, BUT YOU STILL HEAR A HORN.
A COUPLE OF DIRECT QUESTIONS, THOUGH, THAT I HAVE.
FIRST OF ALL, THE WAYSIDE HORN SOLUTION, LET'S CALL IT, DOES NOT INCLUDE THE DELINEATOR DIVIDERS.
THE PURPOSE OF QUIET ZONES WAS NOT JUST TO KNOCK DOWN THE NOISE OF THE OF THE TRAIN HORN, BUT ALSO TO MAKE IT DIFFICULT, IF NOT NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE, FOR TRAFFIC TO CROSS AROUND THE CROSSING ARMS WHEN THEY WERE DOWN.
SO TO DO SO, THEY USED TO BUILD QUIET ZONES WITH TALL CURBS THAT CARS COULDN'T GO OVER, AND IN SOME CASES THEY'VE ALLOWED US TO USE DELINEATOR POSTS IN THE CENTER OF THE ROADWAY, BUT THE IDEA IS THAT A CAR CAN'T GET OUT OF ITS LANE, GO AROUND THE ARM, GO BACK AROUND THE OTHER ARM, AND CONTINUE EVEN THOUGH THE ARMS ARE DOWN. THIS WAYSIDE HORN I DON'T BELIEVE HAS THAT COMPONENT CORRECT.
I SEE NOTHING ON THE NO ENHANCEMENT TO THE PAVING OTHER THAN, A STOP BAR BACK.
THAT'S WHAT WAS ON THE PLANS, WHAT I WAS LOOKING AT NOW.
WELL, THE 345,000 IN RAILROAD INFRASTRUCTURE COSTS WOULD INCLUDE MORE PANELS OF TRACK, RELOCATING THE GATE ARMS, BUT NOT NECESSARILY THE VERTICAL POSTS THAT YOU MENTIONED THAT WE HAVE, LIKE ON AT, IN OLD TOWN.
IN OTHER WORDS, THERE HAS TO BE A MECHANISM OF SOME KIND TO TRIGGER THE USE OF THE HORN.
SO I THINK IT'S MORE OF INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S REQUIRED ONLY FOR THE PURPOSE OF A WAYSIDE HORN.
THE 345,000 THAT THE RAILROAD WANTS WAS NOT SOMETHING WE WERE CONSIDERING BACK IN 2016, 19 AND 21.
WE DIDN'T SEE THAT ONE COMING.
NOW IT'S UP TO OVER ONE HALF THE COST.
SO WE'VE INCREASED THE MARGIN NOW OVER WHAT OUR MARGIN OF OUR SAVINGS, LET'S CALL IT, AND WHAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO, AND WE HAVEN'T ADDED ANY ENHANCEMENTS TO, SAFETY OTHER THAN WE'VE JUST QUIETED DOWN THE HORN.
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FROM DOING THAT. SO I HATE TO OPEN THIS THING UP BECAUSE IT'S BEEN DRAGGING ON FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND WE HAVE NOT DONE ANYTHING ABOUT THIS, BUT AT THIS POINT, FACING A PRICE TAG OF $900,000 IN 2025 COSTS, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RAILROAD SAYS, BUT I THINK THE RAILROAD COMPONENT IS GOING TO BE LOWER.I SHOULD BE ASKING THE RAILROAD GUY RIGHT NEXT TO ME HERE, AND MAYBE YOU'VE GOT A COMMENT ON THAT, LARRY, BUT I DON'T WANT TO RULE OUT AT THIS POINT THE FULL CONSTRUCTION OF THE QUIET ZONE. I'D LIKE TO REOPEN THE SUBJECT, TALK ABOUT IT, SEE IF THE COUNCIL HAS THE WILL TO PUSH THAT THROUGH.
SORRY, ENGINEERING GUYS, WE KEEP BACKPEDALING ON YOU, BUT I DON'T THINK I'M NOT READY TO GET AWAY FROM THE SUBJECT UNTIL WE RESOLVE THAT THIS IS THE BEST SOLUTION, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK IT IS RIGHT THIS MOMENT.
YEAH. ONE THING I'LL MENTION IS THAT THE 900,000 THAT INCLUDES, THE RAILROAD INFRASTRUCTURE COMPONENTS AND IT INCLUDES ACQUISITION OF PROPERTY FROM A PROPERTY OWNER THAT, FROM EVERYTHING I'VE HEARD, IS NOT INTERESTED IN PARTICIPATING IN THIS PROJECT.
SO WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE SCHEDULE WOULD BE BUT I DON'T LIKE THAT FACT EITHER, BECAUSE THERE ARE SOLUTIONS TO THAT ISSUE, AND WE CAN ASSESS THEIR COSTS AND, DETERMINE WHAT THAT MEANS TO WHILE WE'RE HERE.
ERIC, CAN YOU SPEAK TO THE TIMING OF WHAT YOU THINK THE DESIGN SCHEDULE WOULD BE FOR, A QUIET ZONE IF WE WERE TO GO DOWN THAT PATH? WELL, THIS SLIDE IS BASICALLY THE DESIGN OF THE QUIET ZONE.
SO THE RAILROAD HAS ALREADY SEEN THIS.
QUIET ZONE WERE FURTHER ALONG WITH THAT'S WHAT THEY'VE MOST RECENTLY SEEN.
WE COULD DEFINITELY SEND THE OR WAYSIDE IS WHAT THEY'VE MOST RECENTLY SEEN.
WE CAN DEFINITELY SEND THE QUIET ZONE BACK.
IT MIGHT BE OPTIMISTICALLY 4 OR 5 MONTHS TO, YOU KNOW, TO HEAR BACK THAT THEY'VE KIND OF UPDATED THE NUMBERS THAT THEY GAVE US THAT RESULTED IN THE 700,000 NUMBER THREE, FOUR YEARS AGO.
I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF THEIR REGULATIONS HAVE CHANGED.
MAYBE THERE'S SOMETHING NEW THAT THEY WOULD WANT TO ADD NOW THAT OR THAT EVERYTHING COSTS MORE NOW.
SO, WE WOULD JUST HAVE TO SEE ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO ASK YOU ON YOUR CHART.
YOU LEFT OUT THE NUMBER OF INTERSECTIONS IN OUR NUMBER BUT ALSO IS THERE A IS THERE ANYWHERE IT SHOWS WHEN WE CHANGE OVER TO THE WAYSIDE? DOES THE COLLISIONS INCREASE OR DO THEY DECREASE FROM WHAT THE OLD STYLE IS? IS THERE ANY NUMBERS ON THE LIABILITY HERE? I CAN GO BACK AND LOOK FOR THAT, BUT THIS IS REALLY JUST INTENDED TO BE VERY HIGH LEVEL.
TEXAS IS IT'S A HUGE STATE WITH A TON OF CROSSINGS, BUT IT ACTUALLY IT SO IT HAS MORE CROSSINGS THAN ANYONE ELSE, EVEN MORE THAN CALIFORNIA BY A SIGNIFICANT MARGIN AND THAT'S WHERE I'M AT ON THAT.
THIS IS NOT ENOUGH INFORMATION.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A NEW TYPE OF INTERSECTION.
IF IT HAS MORE COLLISIONS ON IT, THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO CONSIDER.
I WOULD LIKE THE COUNCIL TO BE AWARE TO UNDERLINE A POINT THAT THE STAFF IS GOING TO TRY AND MAKE TO YOU, WITH ALL DUE DEFERENCE, HERE, WE REPRESENT AN ENORMOUS NUMBER OF CITIES IN MY LAW FIRM, AND I WILL TELL YOU FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, THE RAILROADS ARE LEGENDARILY INDIFFERENT TO A CITY'S TIME SCHEDULE ABOUT WHEN SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE.
WE'VE HAD PROJECTS SIT THREE YEARS WAITING ON THE RAILROAD TO COMPLETE A REVIEW.
CAN I ASK ANOTHER QUESTION? IF WE GOT RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION IN THE COUNTY, CAN WE, AS THE CITY DO, EMINENT DOMAIN IN THE COUNTY? IS THAT LIKE FORCED ANNEXATION? WE CAN DO EMINENT DOMAIN BOTH WITHIN OUR CORPORATE LIMITS AND OUTSIDE OF OUR CORPORATE LIMITS.
IF IT'S FOR A LEGITIMATE PUBLIC PURPOSE FOR PROPERTY, WE WILL OWN OR CONTROL.
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OKAY, BUT IT'S A COUNTY ROAD, RIGHT? SO WE DON'T CONTROL IT.RIGHT. RIGHT? IF WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH THE COUNTY TO DO IT AS PART OF A PUBLIC PROJECT, WE WILL HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DO IT.
I MEAN, I GUESS MY THOUGHT IS I'M NOT I'M NOT.
THE RAILROAD GUY WOULD BE JUST TO NIX THIS ALL TOGETHER AND KICK THE MONEY TO THE SIDEWALKS WE JUST TALKED ABOUT EARLIER, BUT NOT KNOWING A TIME FRAME, AND THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE BUILT THEIR HOUSES WITH THE HORN ALREADY BLASTING.
I MEAN, I DON'T THAT'S JUST KIND OF MY THOUGHT WITH SPENDING $900,000.
I MEAN, I SEE THE IMPORTANCE OF HAVING THE QUIET ZONES WITHIN OLD TOWN.
OBVIOUSLY PEOPLE ARE SITTING OUTSIDE EATING AND A LOT OF TRAFFIC THERE, BUT THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHT.
PERSONALLY, I'M NOT A FAN OF THE WAYSIDE HORN.
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DOESN'T REQUIRE THE EIGHT INCH CURVE OR DELINEATORS OUT 120FT, WHICH IS AN ISSUE.
THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN AN ISSUE TO ME.
MAINTENANCE OF THE HORN IS AN ISSUE.
SO THERE'D BE NEGOTIATIONS BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE RAILROAD.
WHO'S GOING TO MAINTAIN IT? WHO'S GOING TO SUPPLY THE EQUIPMENT? THEY'RE NOT AS DEPENDABLE AS A [INAUDIBLE] ZONE BECAUSE YOU GOT MORE EQUIPMENT, MORE FAILURE POINTS.
IT'S ALL HUMAN ERROR AND EQUIPMENT FAILURE.
I KNOW THE CABIN HAS EQUIPMENT IN IT THAT WILL WORK WITH QUIET ZONE CONTINUOUS WARNING EQUIPMENT.
WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO UPGRADE FROM A PHASE DETECT SYSTEM.
I DON'T SEE SPENDING THE MONEY.
I KNOW THE NEIGHBORHOOD WANTS A QUIET ZONE, BUT THIS IS NOT A QUIET ZONE.
THEY'LL HEAR JUST AS MUCH NOISE FROM THOSE HORNS.
EVERY LOCATION THAT I HAD ON MY TERRITORY OF SEVERAL THOUSAND MILES OF RAILROAD.
EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD COMPLAINED CONTINUOUSLY.
IT WAS A NIGHTMARE, AND I THINK WE'LL HAVE THAT HERE, TOO.
I KNOW IT'S A SAFETY ISSUE, AND THERE'S BETTER WAYS TO SPEND THAT MONEY AT THAT LOCATION, BUT LIKE ALAN SAID, THE RAILROAD WILL TAKE THEIR TIME.
I KNOW THAT'S A BIG THING GOING ON RIGHT NOW, AND ARE THEY GOING TO MAINTAIN IT AFTER YOU BUILD IT UP? ARE THEY GOING TO SAY IT'S YOURS NOW? YOU MAINTAIN IT BECAUSE YOU TOUCHED IT.
THERE'S A LOT OF UNKNOWNS HERE AND A LOT OF COST I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO INCUR RIGHT NOW.
I KNOW THIS WAS THROUGH THE PAST COUNCIL, WHEN AT THAT TIME IT WAS APPROPRIATE TO DISCUSS IT AND MAKE DECISIONS ON IT, BUT THINGS HAVE CHANGED. I KNOW THE RAILROAD HAS SURVEYED THAT PROPERTY FOR A SECOND LINE THROUGH THEIR SIDING.
THAT MAY BE COMING IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
THEY SURVEY, SOMETIMES THEY DON'T SHOW UP 3 OR 4 YEARS.
WOULDN'T COST US HARDLY ANYTHING EXCEPT FOR ROAD CONSTRUCTION.
SO WITH ALL THE UNKNOWN VARIABLES RIGHT NOW, ALL THE COSTS AND THE INADEQUACY OF THIS SYSTEM, I'VE GOT A TENDENCY TO SAY NO ON IT RIGHT NOW. THAT'D BE MY PROFESSIONAL OPINION.
YOUR OPINION IS NO ON EITHER TREATMENT, RIGHT? NO ON THE TRAIN HORN, NO ON THE QUIET ZONE.
WELL, WE CAN FOLLOW UP ON THE QUIET ZONE AND GO AHEAD AND DO THE PROCESS TO GET AN ESTIMATE.
IT MAY TAKE 2 OR 3 YEARS, BUT BY THEN THEY MAY BE READY TO PUT THAT SECOND TRACK IN AND WE WON'T HAVE TO PAY FOR IT, BUT I'D BE MORE INCLINED TO PAY TWICE THE PRICE FOR A NO BLOW ZONE THAN I WOULD HALF THE PRICE.
YEAH. THE ONLY THING THAT STICKS IN MY CRAW ABOUT THE IDEA OF JUST WALKING AWAY FROM THE CONTRACT, FROM THE PROJECT ALTOGETHER, IS THAT THIS WAS GIVEN TO THE PEOPLE YEARS AGO AS BEING PART OF THE QUIET ZONE PROJECT.
THE COUNCIL ONLY HAD TO CUT IT OUT BECAUSE THE COST JUST WENT EXPONENTIALLY BEYOND WHAT WE THOUGHT IT WOULD, AND WE DIDN'T HAVE THE FUNDING TO DO ALL THE CROSSINGS AT ONE TIME. THIS WAS LOOKED AT AS A COMPROMISE SOLUTION BETWEEN OUR BUDGET AND THE COMMITMENT THAT WE'D MADE TO THE PEOPLE, AND COMMITMENT BEING WE HAVE DISCUSSED IT,
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WE PLAN TO DO IT. WE'RE GOING TO DO IT.I'D LIKE TO FOLLOW THROUGH, OR WE SHOULD HAVE NEVER STARTED THE DISCUSSION IN THE FIRST PLACE BUT I THINK WE OWE THE PEOPLE SOMETHING BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN VERY PATIENT, AND AT THIS POINT, SINCE THE ECONOMICS ON THE PROJECT HAS CHANGED, I DON'T THINK A TRAIN HORN IS ENOUGH BANG FOR THE BUCK.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO; I'D LIKE TO PUSH GOING FORWARD WITH THE FULL QUIET ZONE.
WELL, AND TO GO DOWN YOUR ROAD, IS THERE ANY WAY WE COULD GET A HORN? AND PUT A PUBLIC NOTICE OUT THERE.
THAT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE, MAYOR.
YOU NEED TO DO IT AGAIN TO KIND OF JUST NOT GOING TO CHANGE THE.
WELL, I KNOW WE GOT NEW NEIGHBORS OUT THERE.
I'M AGREEING WITH DAN ON THIS.
TESTING A SECOND HORN IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE ANYTHING.
THE CITY DID A REAL GOOD TEST ON IT BEFORE, AND I'VE LOOKED AT THEIR DATA, SO WE GOT IT.
WHICH WAY WE WANT TO GO ON THIS.
WE WANT TO TRY TO GO AHEAD AND GET A QUOTE FROM THE RAILROAD.
OR DO WE WANT TO SHUT IT OFF? I THINK WE NEED TO ASK THE CITY MANAGER THE QUESTION OF WHERE THE FUNDING WOULD COME FROM, HOW WE COULD DO THIS.
YEAH. SO FIRST THING OBVIOUSLY IS GOING TO BE DETERMINING THE COST, CORRECT.
SECOND WOULD BE ULTIMATELY WOULD BE COMING FROM ESSENTIALLY ADDITIONAL ACCESS BOND FUNDING CAPACITY.
THAT'S WHERE WE WOULD ULTIMATELY BE PULLING THIS FROM, SHORT OF REALLOCATING FROM EXISTING PROJECTS.
SO, GIVEN OUR RECENT DISCUSSIONS, I THINK THAT THERE IS EXISTING CAPACITY, THOUGH IT IS LIMITED.
WELL, I THINK WE SLOWED DOWN THE POLICE PROJECT A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE WE DIDN'T WANT TO USE ALL OF OUR DEBT CAPACITY ON THAT ONE THING AND NOT BE ABLE TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS WHEN THE OPPORTUNITY GOT HERE TO DO IT.
SO I'M GLAD WE MADE THE DECISION FROM THE STANDPOINT THAT WE DO HAVE THE OPTION OF DOING THIS WITHIN OUR DEBT CAPACITY, AND WE'RE PROBABLY LOOKING 3 TO 4 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE THING THAT I WOULD JUST WANT TO, EXPRESS TO THE COUNCIL IS WE'RE DEALING WITH TODAY'S NUMBERS, AND MY FEAR WOULD JUST SIMPLY BE THE POSSIBILITY IS WE COME BACK IN 2 OR 3 YEARS AND WE'VE GOT COST ESCALATION, AND WE HAVE WE POTENTIALLY HAVE THE CONVERSATION AGAIN, BECAUSE NOW IT'S BLOATED BEYOND WHAT WE HAVE FUNDING FOR.
WE'LL DO WHATEVER THE COUNCIL'S DESIRE IS.
WE'RE JUST A LITTLE BIT FURTHER ALONG IN ONE PROCESS THAN THE OTHER.
I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THE LIMITATIONS OF THE WAYSIDE HORN.
I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR COUNCILMEMBER SCOTT.
IF WE SUBMIT A PLAN TO THE RAILROAD AND THEN THEY APPROVE IT THREE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, IS THERE A CERTAIN TIME FRAME THAT WE HAVE TO DO THE CONSTRUCTION OR CAN ONCE THEY APPROVE IT, DO WE HAVE TO WAIT, OR WOULD WE BE ABLE TO WAIT UNTIL WE COULD GET FUNDING? ONCE IT'S APPROVED AND THE AGREEMENT SIGNED, IT'LL GO INTO SCHEDULING FOR THE TRACK DEPARTMENT AND SIGNAL DEPARTMENT TO DO THE CONSTRUCTION WORK, AND WE'LL HAVE TO COORDINATE WITH THEIR SCHEDULE.
OKAY. WHEN THEY CAN DO IT, AND IT'S USUALLY SIX MONTHS TO A YEAR OUT AFTER CONTRACTS ARE SIGNED.
SO USUALLY WE THEN WE NEED TO HAVE THE FUNDING IN PLACE AT THE TIME.
REALLY. RIGHT WHEN YOU SCHEDULE IT.
YEAH. OKAY. WELL IN ANOTHER REALITY OF THAT SITUATION IS THAT IF WE'RE FACING THE DIFFICULT AND TIME CONSUMING PROCESS OF EMINENT DOMAIN, WE'VE GOT A LONG DELAY THERE TOO. SO IF WE'RE PUSHING IN THAT DIRECTION, WE'D BE UP AGAINST THAT TIME CONSTRAINT AS WELL, BUT BUT WE CAN REASONABLY WELL PREDICT HOW LONG THAT WOULD TAKE.
RIGHT. WHAT ABOUT THE REDESIGN? IT'S OUR INTENTIONS AT SOME POINT TO COMPLETELY REDO DOBSON AND 714.
SO THAT'S ANOTHER PIECE THAT WE HAVEN'T BROUGHT UP YET.
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I'VE OR IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE I'VE LOOKED AT ANYTHING THAT LOOKED THAT SHOWED US WHERE THE ALIGNMENT WAS GOING TO BE.I REMEMBER WE WERE TALKING ABOUT HAVING TO ACQUIRE LAND.
THIS PART OF 714 TO THE LEFT IS KIND OF PART OF FUTURE HEALING THAT PUNCHES THROUGH THAT SORT OF FLIES OVER THIS CROSSING, BUT THERE ISN'T AN ALIGNMENT YET.
THAT IS SOMETHING WE'LL TALK ABOUT IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS WITH THE FIVE YEAR CAPITAL PLAN UPDATE, TO TALK ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT YOU WANT TO ADD AT LEAST THE SCHEMATIC DESIGN OF THAT TO ACTUALLY NAIL DOWN AN ALIGNMENT THROUGH THIS QUARTER, BUT I WOULD IMAGINE THAT PROJECT IS AT LEAST FIVE, SIX, AT LEAST YEARS OUT.
IT SOUNDS LIKE THIS WOULD BE FIVE SIX YEARS OUT TOO, AND THERE'S NO FUNDING FOR IT TO LOOK AT THEM SIMULTANEOUSLY INSTEAD OF TRYING TO PURSUE TWO DIFFERENT PROJECTS THAT ULTIMATELY.
CROSS OVER EACH OTHER, AND JUST START PLANNING FOR AN ADDITIONAL LIKE, WE KNOW IT'S NOT JUST GOING TO BE THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE ROAD, IT'S GOING TO BE THIS PIECE, TOO AND GO AHEAD AND KIND OF ASSUME THAT GOING THE ROUTE OF THE QUIET ZONE WOULD ADDRESS IT ALL TOGETHER AT ONE TIME. IF WE'RE ALL UNDER CONSTRUCTION, MIGHT AS WELL ADDRESS IT APPROPRIATELY INSTEAD OF TRYING TO THROW DARTS AT SOMETHING, AND MAYBE IT STICKS BECAUSE I COMPLETELY HEAR AND RESPECT MR. SCOTT'S OPINION ON THE HORN.
IN A SITUATION LIKE THIS, THERE'S A GOOD CHANCE DOBSON WOULD REMAIN AS A SERVICE ROAD AND TURN AND CROSS THE TRACKS ANYWAY AND COME BACK INTO THE HULEN STREET, DOWN THE LITTLE WAYS, WHEREVER THERE'S ENOUGH RAMP TO GET TO IT, BUT THERE'S A GOOD CHANCE IT WILL STAY AS A SERVICE ROAD AND STILL HAVE A GRADE CROSSING, ALONG WITH AN ABOVE GRADE CROSSING.
YEAH. IS THERE A SPEAKER? THERE IS MAYOR.
MR. GONZALEZ? HI, I'M RUBEN GONZALEZ FROM 1444 VALLEY CREST DRIVE HERE IN BURLESON, TEXAS.
I LIVE RIGHT THERE ON THE CORNER AND I REPRESENT THE HOA, THE 52 HOMES IN THAT AREA.
THE CITY MANAGER USED TO LIVE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, SO THIS PROJECT IS ACTUALLY TEN YEARS OLD.
WHEN WE BROUGHT IT TO THE CITY MANAGER FOR A QUIET ZONE FOR THAT SPECIFIC AREA.
HE LOVED THE IDEA SO MUCH THAT HE BROUGHT IT TO THE CITY.
THEN THE PROJECT OPENED ALL THE WAY UP.
WE WERE TOLD WE WOULD BE THE FIRST COMMUNITY THAT WOULD BE DONE, AND THEN WHEN THE RAILROAD RESPONDED BACK WITH THE FUNDING, THE CITY PORTION GOT DONE, AND WE KIND OF GOT PUT TO THE SIDE.
NOT EXACTLY SURE WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE FUNDING.
NOT A LOT OF COMMUNICATION BETWEEN THE CITY AND OUR HOA ON THAT PORTION.
SO WE REACHED BACK TO THE CITY AND THE YOU KNOW, WE'RE FINANCIAL INDIVIDUALS AS WELL TOO.
WE DON'T WANT OUR CITY MONEY WASTED.
SO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT 900,000 FOR A QUIET ZONE AND 130,000 FOR A HORN.
BRING US THE HORN. SHOW US WHAT THE HORN LOOKS LIKE.
I WILL TELL YOU THAT THE HORN MADE A DRASTIC ENHANCEMENT.
THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT REALLY, TRULY HEAR IT ARE THE PEOPLE THAT IT'S DIRECTIONALLY BLOWING.
SO IT WOULD DEFINITELY BENEFIT ABOUT 45 OF THE NEIGHBORS THAT LIVE IN THAT AREA.
AT SOME POINT IN TIME YOU'RE GOING TO DEVELOP AS WELL.
YOU GOT TOLD YOU WAS GOING TO DO SOMETHING AND THEN IT'S NOTHING, AND NOW I'M ACTUALLY HEARING WE WERE HOPING WE DIDN'T EVEN HAVE TO TALK TODAY, BECAUSE I DIDN'T REALLY WANT TO SAY A LOT OF THIS STUFF.
I WILL TELL YOU THAT WE EVEN TALKED TO THE GENTLEMAN.
AT THE TIME YOU SPOKE TO HIM THE FIRST TIME.
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READ WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT I DID SPEAK WITH THE GENTLEMAN, AND HE ORIGINALLY TRIED TO DONATE THAT LAND.AT THE TIME, YOU WERE TRYING TO GET THE ACTUAL QUIET ZONE.
SO I CAN TELL YOU THE WAYSIDE HORN BENEFITS US.
I CAN ALSO TELL YOU, WE UNDERSTAND THAT PROJECT IS SUPPOSED TO EXTEND TO A FOUR LANE HIGHWAY AT SOME POINT IN TIME, AND YOU'RE GOING TO DO A QUIET ZONE AT THAT TIME AS WELL, TOO. SO, YOU KNOW, IF THAT'S RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER, WE DON'T WANT TO WASTE THE CITY'S MONEY, BUT WHEN YOU GET TOLD YOU'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING AND 52 HOMES LOOKED AT YOU AND THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE DOING NOW.
GOT IT. A LOT OF YOU MEMBERS WEREN'T HERE AT THAT TIME FRAME, BUT THAT'S HOW WE FEEL AS A COMMUNITY, BUT YOU DO HAVE TO MAKE A HARD CHOICE WHETHER TO WAYSIDE HORN OR A QUIET ZONE, BECAUSE AT SOME POINT IN TIME, THE RAILROAD COULD TAKE THREE YEARS TO ANSWER, AND NOW IT'S TWICE AS MUCH.
HOWEVER WE DEALT WITH THAT TEN YEARS AGO, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE ABOUT TO REPEAT THE SAME THING.
THANK YOU SIR. YOU KNOW, HE BRINGS UP A GREAT POINT ABOUT ABOUT HEALING OUT THERE.
WE'VE GOT THE MASTER PLAN WITH THE COUNTY AND THAT COULD HAVE SOME IMPACT ON THIS.
HERE'S SOMETHING ELSE TO THINK ABOUT.
WHEN YOU HAVE CONSECUTIVE CROSSINGS LIKE COUNTY ROAD 714 AND COUNTY ROAD 713.
THEY'RE BOTH GOING TO HAVE A WHISTLE BOARD, AND THAT WHISTLE BOARD IS GOING TO BE AWAY FROM THE CROSSING, DEPENDING ON THE DISTANCE BY THE MAXIMUM SPEED THAT TRAINS ARE ALLOWED TO GO IN THAT DIRECTION, AND THROUGH THERE A PASSENGER TRAIN CAN GO LEGALLY 70 MILES AN HOUR.
THEY'RE GOING TO BE BLOWING GOING PAST THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, GOING SOUTH FOR 713.
EVEN THOUGH 714 IS A QUIET ZONE, THEY'RE GOING TO BE BLOWING AT THE CROSSING OR JUST PAST THE CROSSING WHERE THE WHISTLE BOARD WILL BE, BECAUSE THE QUIET ZONE WILL ONLY ENCOMPASS THE CROSSING THAT THE QUIET ZONE IS IN THE TIMETABLE FOR.
SO THERE WILL BE SOME TRAIN HORN, YOU'LL HEAR.
THAT'S WHY WHEN WE DO QUIET ZONES, WE TRY TO ENCOMPASS EVERY ROAD.
THAT'S NOT WITHIN 4 OR 5 MILES OF ANOTHER ROAD.
THAT'S THE ONLY WAY IT'S GOING TO BE A TRUE QUIET ZONE, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS EVER DISCUSSED BEFORE, BUT THAT MAY BE ONE OF THE REASONS THAT ONE WAS TAKEN OFF, BECAUSE THAT MAY HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO TELL YOU.
GOT ANY SUGGESTIONS? MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
WE CAN SEE HOW EXPEDITIOUSLY WE CAN GET A RESPONSE FROM THE RAILROAD.
WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE AN ANSWER TONIGHT.
WE CAN START ANSWERING, ASKING THOSE QUESTIONS WITH NO GUARANTEE THAT WE'LL GET A TIMELY RESPONSE, BUT WE CAN BRING THIS ITEM BACK WITH AT LEAST GIVE YOU SOME MORE INFORMATION IF THAT'S YOUR PREFERENCE TO HAVE MORE INFORMATION TO GO OFF OF, BUT, WE CAN'T SPEAK TO HOW TIMELY THAT RESPONSE WILL BE OR HOW MUCH INFORMATION WE'LL KNOW, BUT WE CAN SEE IF WE CAN DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THE PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS WILL BE SUFFICIENT AND WHETHER THE COST IS SUFFICIENT, AND COME BACK WITH THAT INFORMATION.
I'LL JUST SAY, BEFORE WE GET DONE, I JUST WANT TO I APOLOGIZE.
I DON'T WANT TO THINK THAT YOU'RE NOT IMPORTANT BECAUSE I'M NOT A POLITICIAN.
I'M JUST A FINANCE GUY, AND WHEN I COME ACROSS AND SAY THINGS, IT'S USUALLY PRETTY.
I'M PRETTY DIRECT. I JUST DON'T SUGARCOAT STUFF.
SO, ANYWAY, I DON'T WANT TO SAY THAT IT'S NOT IMPORTANT, BUT WHAT I'M LOOKING AT IS THAT IT'S BEEN EIGHT YEARS NOW, AND THE COSTS KEEP BALLOONING, AND SO I'M JUST TRYING TO THINK, OKAY, YOU KNOW, WHERE ARE WE NOW? NOW, IF IF THE WAY THE COUNCIL WANTS TO GO IS TO GO WITH THE FULL BLOWN QUIET ZONE, THEN LET'S DO IT AND FIND A WAY TO DO IT, BUT ANYWAY, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT BEFORE, WE CLOSE TONIGHT, BUT, BUT BASED ON THE GENTLEMAN WHO SPOKE TONIGHT, YOU SAID THE HORN WAS SUFFICIENT. SO? MEAN THE COST.
IT'S I DON'T KNOW TO ME, THE WAYSIDE HORN WITH THE NEW COST AT 500,000 TO ME I MORE IN LINE WITH
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MAYOR PRO TEM MCCLENDON OF IT'S ESCALATED ENOUGH TO WHERE IT'S MORE COMPARABLE TO IT MAKES MORE FOR ME AN ARGUMENT TO JUST DO THE QUIET ZONE, BUT THEN I HEAR COUNCILMEMBER SCOTT SAYING, WELL, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE STILL GOING TO HEAR ANOTHER HORN.SO I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO TRULY MAKE THE BIGGEST IMPACT TO THE RESIDENTS AND TRY AND HEAR YOU ALL OUT TO ENSURE THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WHAT YOU ACTUALLY WANT US TO DO, BUT ALSO KNOWING WE HAVE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE KNOW NEED TO COME TO THIS AREA INFRASTRUCTURE WISE, AND SO WHERE DO SOME OF THESE THINGS ALIGN? SO I THINK THE APPROPRIATE THING IS TO CONTINUE ASKING QUESTIONS AND SEE LIKE WHAT WHAT TRULY MAKES THE MOST SENSE, BUT HEARING WHAT THE RESIDENTS TRULY WANT TO.
BECAUSE IF IT DOESN'T, IF IT DOESN'T NECESSITATE THE QUIET ZONE, IF IT'S NOT GOING TO MAKE THE IMPACT THAT WE THINK IT MIGHT MAKE, THEN IS IT JUST WISER TO GO WITH THE WAYSIDE? IT MAKES A BIG ENOUGH DIFFERENCE TO BE RECOGNIZED BY THE RESIDENTS.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE BEING SMART.
PUT THIS BACK ON THE AGENDA FOR THE NEXT REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING.
GIVE COUNCIL TIME TO TALK, TO IDENTIFY ISSUES, TO TALK WITH THE CITIZENS.
I DON'T THINK WE'VE DONE THAT WELL ENOUGH, AND TO ACTUALLY GO OUT AND LISTEN, TO SEE WHAT THE NOISE IS NOW VERSUS WHAT IT WILL BE WITH HORN, AND I CAN GIVE YOU LOCATIONS WHERE THERE'S HORNS AND YOU CAN GO LISTEN TO HORNS, AND THAT'LL GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE A MORE EDUCATED DECISION BASED ON WHAT THE CITIZENS REQUEST IS, AND THEN WE CAN AT THAT TIME, WE CAN COLLECT OUR THOUGHTS AGAIN AND MAKE THAT DECISION.
YOU DO UNDERSTAND THAT WE CAN'T GET TOGETHER AND TALK ABOUT THIS? THAT'S RIGHT. WE'LL HAVE TO BE INDIVIDUAL INVESTIGATORS.
CAN YOU CAN YOU TAKE THE LEAD ON THAT FOR US? I'LL GO OUT AND DO WHAT I CAN.
YEAH, THAT'S THE NEXT MEETING.
THIS IS SIMPLY A REPORT AND PRESENTATION, SO YOU GUYS DON'T NEED TO TABLE IT.
WE CAN SIMPLY BRING IT BACK AND HAVE ANOTHER DISCUSSION.
OKAY, AND I'M SORRY Y'ALL FEEL THE WAY YOU DO.
THANK YOU. WE NEED TO EXPLAIN TO THESE FOLKS THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A QUIET ZONE.
WE CAN SPEND THE MILLION DOLLARS, BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE QUIET.
SO AT LEAST UNDERSTAND THE NOISE LEVEL MAY GO DOWN, BUT IT'S NOT GOING AWAY, AND A LOT OF FOLKS ARE GOING TO SAY, HEY, YOU SAID IT WAS A QUIET ZONE.
WELL, IT'S PROBABLY NOT GOING TO BE, AND WE DO NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT AND GET THAT OUT THERE.
I UNDERSTAND WHAT LARRY IS SAYING.
I BELIEVE THAT THE SOUTHBOUND HORNS WILL STILL BLOW IN THE VICINITY OF THE VALLEY CREST NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT I'D LIKE LARRY TO TELL US MORE ABOUT HOW THE NOISE CONE OF THAT TRAIN HORN WILL AFFECT THEM, BECAUSE THEY'LL BE GOING AWAY FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD BY THE TIME THE HORN IS FIRED OFF, CORRECT? NO THE HORN WILL FIRE.
IT'S DIRECTIONAL. SO DEPENDING ON WHICH DIRECTION THE TRAIN'S COMING AND THE MAXIMUM SPEED, THE HORN WILL FIRE BEFORE THE TRAIN GETS THERE TO WARN HOW MUCH FARTHER BEFORE IT GETS THERE? USUALLY ABOUT 20S.
WELL, IF THIS IS A QUIET ZONE, IS WHAT I'M SAYING.
THE WAYSIDE HORN WILL START BLOWING.
OKAY, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE SAME THING.
OKAY? IF WE MAKE THIS A QUIET ZONE, THERE IS NO WAYSIDE HORN.
YOU WERE SAYING THAT THE ENGINEER WOULD BLOW FOR THE NEXT CROSSING TO THE SOUTH.
IT DEPENDS ON WHERE THEIR WHISTLE BOARD SIGN IS.
YOU'LL SEE IT. I'LL DRIVE OUT THERE AND SEE HOW CLOSE IT IS TO THE CROSSING.
YEAH, IF THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO.
I GUESS MY POINT BEING, IF THEY'RE GOING SOUTHBOUND AND THEY'RE BLOWING THE HORN AT THE CROSSING AT THIS PLACE FOR THE NEXT CROSSING DOWN SOUTH, THEY'RE GOING TO EITHER BE BLOWING IT AT THE CROSSING OR JUST PAST THE CROSSING.
SO THE COUNTY SIDE OF THE ROAD WILL GET THE FULL BLAST THAT THEY NORMALLY GET, RIGHT? YES, SIR. WE'RE LESS CONCERNED ABOUT THE COUNTY SIDE THAN WE ARE THE CITY SIDE.
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OKAY, SO, BUT THERE'LL STILL BE SOME NOISE.I LIVE ON THE HOUSE THAT'S RIGHT THERE ON THE VERY CORNER.
SO YOUR WORST CASE SCENARIO, I HAVE SPRAY FOAM AND YOU COULDN'T HEAR IT INSIDE MY HOUSE.
I HAD TO STEP OUTSIDE MY HOUSE TO ACTUALLY HEAR THAT WAYSIDE HORN.
SO I UNDERSTAND THERE'LL STILL BE SOME NOISE, BUT IT IS 99% BETTER FOR THE ACTUAL NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE STILL HAVE IT ON FACEBOOK, WHERE THERE'S PROBABLY 30 NEIGHBORS THAT DIDN'T HEAR IT AND WERE ALL FOR IT, AND, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WE WOULD LIKE THE QUIET ZONE, BUT IF THE WAYSIDE HORN IS THE WAY TO GO, THEN WE DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH THAT.
SO IT'S KIND OF JUST TO MAKE A DECISION.
I REALLY HATE TO DO A STUDY ON NOISE AGAIN.
THAT'S WHY I CAME BACK UP HERE, IS TO LET YOU KNOW HOW QUIET IT ACTUALLY WAS, AND WE DO UNDERSTAND YOU STILL HEAR THE TRAIN THAT'S IN THE COUNTY PORTION, BUT THAT'S SIGNIFICANTLY QUIETER.
I MEAN, THE ONLY ONES THAT HEAR THAT ARE THE ONES THAT ARE ME AND MY NEIGHBOR ACROSS THE STREET.
THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY DOESN'T REALLY HEAR THAT.
SO I JUST WANTED TO GIVE THAT TO YOU BEFORE YOU.
SO REALISTICALLY, YOU KNOW, CANCEL IT, PICK AWAY OR GO FULL THROTTLE WITH THE QUIET ZONE OR SAY, NO, NOTHING'S GOING TO HAPPEN FOR 20 YEARS UNTIL WE DO THE FOUR LANE HIGHWAY.
SO THAT'S MY RECOMMENDATION TO YOU ALL.
WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO EXPEDITE THIS AND SEE WHAT WE CAN FIND OUT.
THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
[8.C.Receive a report, hold a discussion, and provide staff feedback regarding Police Reporting Areas (PRAs) and patrol beat realignment for the Burleson Police Department. (Staff Contact: Billy J. Cordell, Chief of Police)]
BURLESON POLICE DEPARTMENT.THE STAFF PRESENTED THIS EVENING IS CHIEF BILLY CORDELL, AND COMPANY.
THE TECHNOLOGY GUY CAME WITH ME.
MAYOR AND COUNCIL. GOOD EVENING, BILLY CORDELL, CHIEF OF POLICE.
SO I WANT TO START BY THANKING OUR BPD STAFF.
THEY HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN A SIGNIFICANT OPERATIONAL CHANGE THAT I'M GOING TO DISCUSS THIS EVENING.
I KNOW SERGEANT HENKIN WAS HERE.
SHEILA, REPRESENTING THE ASSOCIATION, AND LIEUTENANT MABRY HAS HAD A SIGNIFICANT HAND IN THIS, ALONG WITH MANY OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT WE WILL DISCUSS, BUT THEIR INPUT HAS BEEN INVALUABLE IN THE TRANSFORMATION PROCESS, AND AT BEST, AND THE BEAT REALIGNMENT COMMITTEE DROVE THE MODEL THAT I'M PRESENTING TODAY.
I THINK THE TWO BEST WORDS THAT I COULD DESCRIBE ALL OF THIS IS TRANSFORMATION IN THE FUTURE.
THIS IS AN OVERVIEW OF THE PRESENTATION AND SOME OF THE KEY TAKEAWAYS.
WE COMPLETED AN EVALUATION OF THE CURRENT RESPONSE MODEL, WHICH IS THE FOUR DIVISIONS IN 2024, AND WE THEN CREATED A BEAT COMMITTEE OF 13 MEMBERS REPRESENTING EVERY AREA OF THE DEPARTMENT.
COLLABORATION WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND PLANNING FOR FUTURE LAND USE.
LIKE CHISHOLM SUMMIT, WE WORKED CLOSELY WITH THE OTHER CITY DEPARTMENTS.
I WANT TO SAY THANKS TO IT AND OUR GIS TEAM, OUR, AS I SAID, OUR PUBLIC SAFETY COMMUNICATIONS TEAM, ALONG WITH OUR CRIME ANALYST ALEX SNYDER, THAT DID A LOT OF THE HEAVY LIFTING ON THIS.
WE CURRENTLY OPERATE UNDER A DISTRICT MODEL, AND THEN I'M GOING TO ELABORATE ON POLICE REPORTING AREAS OR PRAS, INTRODUCE THE BEAT MODEL THAT THE 13 MEMBER TEAM CAME UP WITH, AND THEN COMPARE THE MODELS, THEN TALK ABOUT RESPONSE TIMES AND OFFICER SAFETY COMPONENTS.
SO WE ADOPTED THE DISTRICT MODEL IN 1985.
SO THAT'S THE NEAREST TIMELINE WE COULD COME UP WITH THAT.
WHAT IT DOES IS IT DIVIDES THE CITY INTO FOUR PATROLLING DISTRICTS NORTH, SOUTH, EAST AND WEST.
GROWTH WITHIN BURLESON AND THE ETJ HAS MADE THIS MODEL VERY INEFFICIENT.
SO THE CALL LOAD IS VERY DISPROPORTIONAL.
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PRAS FOR THE CITY.WE COMPARE OUR CRIME STATS FROM YEAR TO YEAR, AND IF WE MOVE THOSE MAJOR BOUNDARIES, THEN WE WILL LOSE THE HISTORICAL DATA AND THE STATISTICS FOR THAT YEAR UNTIL WE CAN MAKE THAT UP.
SO TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE ALL THE BLUE LINES, THERE'S CURRENTLY OVER 400 PRAS THAT THE CITY AND THE ETJ IS NOW DIVIDED IN. GIVE YOU A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON MY TIME IN FORT WORTH PD, I WAS PUT IN A POSITION, TO CREATE A FIFTH PATROL DIVISION FOR THE CITY OF FORT WORTH THAT CARVED OUT THE CENTRAL CITY OF FORT WORTH.
IT TAKES IN CONSIDERATION OF THE NUMBER OF CALLS FOR SERVICE ANNUALLY THAT YOU USE, AS WELL AS OTHER PRIORITIES, SUCH AS MAINTAINING RESIDENTIAL INTEGRITY, DIVIDING OUT, STRIP SHOPPING CENTERS AND DIFFERENT HIGH CALL VOLUME AREAS SO THAT WE ARE, GROUPING THESE THINGS WITHIN THE, LIKE, LIKE MINDED AREAS, AND THAT WAY WE DON'T COMPARE THE CRIME THAT MIGHT HAPPEN WITHIN A STRIP SHOPPING CENTER THAT'S LOCATED NEXT TO A RESIDENTIAL AREA.
THAT SKEWS THE NUMBERS FOR THE RESIDENTS WANTING TO KNOW WHAT THE CRIME RATE IS WITHIN THEIR AREA.
SO IN SEPTEMBER OF 23, I BROUGHT EVERYBODY BACK TOGETHER TO UPDATE THE FOOTPRINT SO THAT WE COULD BUILD OUT OUR BEATS, WHICH WAS ACCOMPLISHED IN JANUARY OF THIS YEAR, AND THE QUESTION BECOMES, WHY NOW? SIMPLY THE GROWTH THAT HAS BEEN OCCURRING IN BURLESON SINCE 2018, WHEN WE BEGAN THIS PROCESS, ALONG WITH SUBSTANTIAL DEVELOPMENT LIKE CHISHOLM SUMMIT DECIDED TO GO AHEAD AND START MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS CONCEPT.
SO WE LOOK BY THE NUMBERS, CITIZEN.
THESE ARE CITIZEN INITIATED CALLS FOR SERVICE UNDER THE DISTRICT MODEL.
SO THE NORTH, SOUTH, EAST AND WEST THIS IS A THREE YEAR AVERAGE.
SO BY THE NUMBERS, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT, NORTH IS 41% OF THE CALL LOAD.
SOUTH IS 26, EAST IS 16, WEST IS 16, AND THESE ARE CONSISTENT NUMBERS.
WHAT I'M PRESENTING IN THE NINE YEARS THAT I HAVE BEEN HERE.
SO IT'S A VERY DISPROPORTIONAL CALL LOAD.
SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE OBSERVATION PERIOD, WE RESPONDED OVER 60,000 CITIZEN INITIATED CALLS FOR SERVICE, AND A LOT OF TIMES IN MY PAST PRESENTATIONS, WE ARE SPENDING AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF TIME UP WITHIN THE NORTH AREA ANSWERING THE SIGNIFICANT CALL LOAD THERE, AND WE'RE NOT IN THE PERIPHERAL AREAS LIKE WEST BLUEBIRD MEADOWS AND OTHER AREAS THAT ARE CONSIDERABLY FURTHER AWAY FROM THAT NORTH ZONE.
THIS LOOKS AT THE SELF-INITIATED THREE YEAR AVERAGE.
OUR COMMUNITY POLICING EFFORTS ENCOURAGE OFFICERS TO ACTIVELY ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY.
SO THESE ARE THINGS LIKE TRAFFIC STOPS, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT CONVERSATIONS.
SO THIS KIND OF A BUSY MAP, BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE DISPARATE DISTRIBUTION BY PRA CITIZEN INITIATED CALLS, THE BRIGHT YELLOW SIGNIFIES A ZERO CALL TO 114 CITIZEN INITIATED CALLS FOR SERVICE.
A LOT OF TIMES THAT MAY BE AREAS OUT IN THE ETJ OR AREAS OVER WHERE I'M POINTING HERE, LIKE CHISHOLM SUMMIT, WHICH I BELIEVE IS RIGHT THERE, THAT IS JUST NOT DEVELOPED YET, BUT GOING TO BE DEVELOPED.
YOU LOOK AT THE BLUE THAT IS THE HIGHEST CALL LOAD AREAS.
WE HAVE A LOT OF WALK IN CALLS THAT COME IN THERE.
SO IT GIVES YOU KIND OF AN IDEA OF, OF THE CALL LOAD AND THE AND THE VARIANCE THERE THAT WE HAVE.
YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE OTHER AREAS WORKING THROUGH DEVELOPMENT.
THERE'S SOME SIGNIFICANT ACREAGE OUT THERE BY CHISHOLM SUMMIT THAT CAN BE DEVELOPED OUT IN THE FUTURE, AND I JUST DON'T THINK WE NEED TO KEEP WAITING TO REDESIGN HOW WE'RE GOING TO ANSWER OUR CALL LOADS IN THOSE AREAS.
GO BACK TO THAT--WHAT ARE THE LITTLE BLUE DOTS AROUND THE AREAS.
IS THAT PART OF THE COUNT OR THESE RIGHT HERE.
NOW THE SMALL DOTS AROUND YOU SEE A PERIMETER ON THE YELLOW.
IS THAT MEAN ANYTHING? GO DOWN A LITTLE BIT SIGNIFIES CITY LIMITS.
I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. YOU GOT BLUE DOTS ON THE CITY LIMITS.
THAT PART OF A COUNT OR WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? NO, THAT'S NOT PART OF THE COUNT.
THESE FOR THE BLUE AND THE [INAUDIBLE] THERE THAT YOU HAVE BETWEEN 1006 AND 2140.
THERE'S ONLY THREE AREAS THAT MEET THAT CRITERIA.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT CALLS FOR SERVICE, YOU.
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OUR, WHAT OUR AREAS LOOK LIKE FOR SELF-INITIATED ACTIVITIES.SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE BEAT REALIGNMENT, SEPTEMBER 23RD, AGAIN, THE DEPARTMENT MET WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PLANNING DEPARTMENTS TO DISCUSS THE KNOWN FUTURES OF THIS SO THAT WE COULD KIND OF PREDICT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT DOWN THE ROAD.
CHISHOLM SUMMIT HAS A MASTER PLANNED COMMUNITY 3400 DOORS.
WE ALSO HAVE THE HOOPER BUSINESS PARK THAT'S BUILT INTO THAT.
SO OUR CRIME ANALYST BEGAN PULLING THE DATA TO DETERMINE THE PRAS NEEDED TO BE CONFIRMED.
DID THESE MEET THE CRITERIA THAT WE HAD PUT FORWARD? OCTOBER 23RD THE OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, THE IT GIS ADJUSTED AND CONFIRMED THE PRAS.
EVERYBODY GOT TOGETHER AND SAID WHAT'S THIS REALLY NEED TO LOOK LIKE? SO WE LOOKED AT THREE YEARS OF DATA AND DID A VERY THOROUGH ANALYSIS.
THEY DECIDED THAT WE NEEDED TO TRANSITION TO THE BEAT MODEL SO THAT WE COULD PROVIDE BETTER SERVICE.
THAT SHOWS YOU SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THAT, BUT IT ALSO ALLOWS THE FUTURE GROWTH OF THE CITY.
SO AS WE CONTINUE TO BUILD OUT IN OTHER AREAS, WE'LL GET TO A CERTAIN LEVEL.
BASED ON THIS CRITERIA AND SUPPORTED BY THE DATA, A TOTAL OF EIGHT BEATS WERE FORMED.
SO THEY ACTUALLY GOT OUT AND SAID, WE'RE GOING TO DRIVE FROM THE CURRENT POLICE STATION TO THE MIDDLE OF THAT BEAT AND AS WE GO THROUGH THE BEATS INDIVIDUALLY, YOU'LL SEE SOME OF THE DATA THAT GOES ON THERE, AND THEN DETERMINED HOW LONG IT TOOK TO DRIVE THE ENTIRE AREA OF EACH BEAT.
THE COMMITTEE PRESENTED THE BEATS TO ALL 90 SWORN MEMBERS OF THE DEPARTMENT.
SO THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF THE GATEWAY BEAT.
THE FAR NORTH AREA OF THE CITY CONTAINS GATEWAY STATIONS.
SOME SCHOOLS, SOME NEIGHBORHOODS.
IT TOOK ONE HOUR, 19 MINUTES TO PATROL THE BEAT WITHOUT TAKING CALLS FOR SERVICE JUST TO COMPLETELY DRIVE THROUGH THAT AREA, BECAUSE A LOT OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS THE PROACTIVE TIME.
AS YOU KNOW, IN THE MATRIX, WE WANT TO KNOW HOW MUCH TIME THAT WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO ANSWER OUR CALLS FOR SERVICE IN AN AREA, BUT HAVE TIME TO BE ABLE TO DRIVE THE STREETS FOR PROACTIVE, RESPONSE SO THAT THE IF YOU JUST LOOK AT THE BOTTOM OF THAT 3474 ANNUAL CITIZEN INITIATED CALLS FOR SERVICE, THAT'S APPROXIMATELY 17%, WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO TARGET ALONG THOSE LINES AND GET AWAY FROM THE 41% SELF-INITIATED SAME THING, 13%, AND I WON'T GO THROUGH ALL OF THESE WITH THAT, BUT IF YOU LOOK DOWN AT THE BOTTOM, THE 17%, 16% HERE, THIS IS THE BRICK BEAT AND THE SURROUNDING AREAS YOU CAN LOOK AT.
IT TOOK AN HOUR AND 43 MINUTES TO PATROL THAT ENTIRE BEAT.
JOHN JONES BEAT, MCNAIRN AND WILSHIRE AND HULEN THE RAILROAD TRACKS.
IT'S GOT ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOODS AGAIN.
WE'RE TARGETING THE 14 TO 15% BEAT.
THERE'S A LITTLE BIT MORE DENSITY THERE.
SO TWO HOURS AND 15 MINUTES TO PATROL THAT.
OLD TOWN BEAT OR AS THEY AFFECTIONATELY NAMED IT, FIRST, THE DORITO BEAT.
YOU CAN SEE ON THAT, 42 MINUTES TO PATROL IT.
IT'S A LITTLE BIT SMALLER AREA, BUT AGAIN, 14, 16% OF OUR CALLS FOR SERVICE IN THOSE AREAS.
IT'S 6.5 MINUTE DRIVE TIME TO THE MIDDLE OF THAT, APPROXIMATELY 45 MINUTES TO PATROL THAT BEAT.
SO THIS GETS US EAST OF 35 OVER ON THE RENFRO CORRIDOR.
IT'S ABOUT A TEN MINUTE DRIVE, ONE HOUR AND 13 MINUTES TO PATROL.
THAT BEAT 11 AND 13%, RESPECTIVELY, ON THE CITIZEN INITIATED CALLS AND THE SELF-INITIATED CALLS, BUT WE KNOW THERE'S SOME GROWTH AREAS OUT THERE THAT ARE BEING DEVELOPED NOW.
SO WE TRIED TO ALLOW FOR FUTURE GROWTH AREAS TO LOWER THOSE CALLS FOR SERVICE NUMBERS, SO THAT WE COULD PLAN FOR THAT IN THE FUTURE AND TRY TO NOT DIVIDE THESE BEATS UP ANY SOONER THAN WE HAVE TO.
IT'S GOING TO BE MUCH LONGER TO PATROL AT NIGHT.
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YOUR ADJUSTABLE LIGHT UP IN FRONT OF THE CAR.AGAIN, 6% AND 7% OF THESE, WE KNOW THERE'S SOME GROWTH AREAS BACK TO THE EAST BEHIND THAT, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE PRETTY WELL THERE'S NOT A LOT OF ADJUSTMENTS YOU COULD MAKE ON THIS TO BALANCE THAT OUT AT THIS POINT.
WE KNOW THE GROWTH AREAS ARE COMING.
WHILE YOU LOOK AT THE 6%, CALLS FOR SERVICE, THERE'S NOT A SELF-INITIATED CALLS FOR SERVICE BECAUSE THAT IS LAND RIGHT NOW, BUT AS THAT DEVELOPS OUT OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS, WE'RE GOING TO SEE SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN THE CALLS FOR SERVICE ON THAT WITH 3400 DOORS PLUS OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE THAT MAY BE COMING AROUND THAT AREA.
SO I WANT TO SWITCH A CONCEPT.
THAT PUTS THE INTEGRITY THERE.
WHERE NOW, WITH JUST ONE NORTHERN DISTRICT HANDLING 41% OF THE CALLS, THEY ARE MOVING TO THE NORTH AND VERY SELDOM ARE THEY GETTING ALL THE WAY BACK OUT INTO THE PERIPHERAL AREAS, WHETHER IT'S THE FAR SOUTH ON THE HIGHWAY OR OR OUT BLUEBIRD MEADOWS AREA.
SO THIS ALLOWS THE OFFICERS TO THE BEAT.
INTEGRITY ALLOWS THE OFFICERS TO BECOME MORE FAMILIAR WITH THAT BEAT, YOU KNOW, IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOODS WHEN YOU'RE GOING IN, WHO LIVES THERE, WHO WHAT CAR DOESN'T BELONG THERE, WHO'S SOMEBODY BELONGS TO? IF THEY'RE WALKING AROUND OR STROLLING AROUND ON THE STREETS? THEY WILL BE THE FIRST OFFICER DISPATCHED TO ANY CALL ON THEIR BEAT WHEN THEY'RE AVAILABLE.
WHAT WE WANT IS THE OFFICER TO TAKE OWNERSHIP WITHIN THOSE BEATS AND SAY, THAT'S MY BEAT.
I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND TAKE THAT CALL AND CLEAR WHAT THEIR OWN.
SO THE SECOND PIECE OF THIS IS THE CALL PRIORITIZATION.
IT EXAMINES EXAMINES THE NATURE OF THE CALL AND PRIORITIZE OUR RESPONSE BASED ON THE URGENCY.
PART OF BEAT INTEGRITY IS KEEPING THOSE OFFICERS IN THE AREA.
SO IF YOU HAVE, FOR EXAMPLE, A A LIFE THREATENING CALL, WE'RE GOING TO SEND THE BEAT OFFICER FIRST.
IF IT'S NOT A LIFE THREATENING SITUATION.
YOU CAME HOME, AND SOMETHING WAS STOLEN OUT OF YOUR YARD.
WE WANT TO DISPATCH AS QUICK AS WE CAN, AND WE WILL IF THE BEAT OFFICER IS AVAILABLE, BUT WE DON'T WANT TO PULL SOMEBODY FROM A DEEP AREA ALL THE WAY UP TO NORTH WHEN THERE IS NO SUSPECT ON THE SCENE OR NO THREATS TOWARD THE PERSONS THERE.
WE'LL TRY TO FREE UP THAT BEAT OFFICER AND LET THEM WORK THAT CALL FOR SERVICE.
THE GOAL IS TO MAXIMIZE THE TIME THE OFFICERS ARE ON THEIR BEAT.
I KNOW THAT WHEN YOU START LOOKING AT THE AREA TO THE FAR WEST, WHEN FIRE STATION FOUR COMES ONLINE, WE DO HAVE A POLICE ROOM WITHIN THAT TO BE ABLE TO GO THERE AND MAKE THOSE CALLS. THAT'S PART OF THIS PLAN OF BEING ABLE TO KEEP THE OFFICER THERE AS MUCH AS WE CAN.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE AVERAGE CITIZEN INITIATED DISTRICTS AGAIN, AND THEN COMPARE THAT TO THE BEATS, YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE AMOUNT OF OR THE PERCENTAGES OF TIME THAT WE'RE ANSWERING CALLS FOR SERVICE UP THERE, AND YOU CAN SEE THE BALANCE OVER ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF YOUR SCREEN THERE WITH SOME OF THOSE AREAS WE KNOW THAT ARE GOING TO INCREASE.
THIS IS THE SELF-INITIATED CALLS.
FOR EXAMPLE, IT CAN TAKE ANYWHERE TO 35, 40 MINUTES TO TRAVEL FROM GATEWAY STATION TO DEEP WEST.
WHEN YOU'RE TRAVELING BETWEEN PEAK HOURS AND NOT RUNNING WITH LIGHTS AND SIRENS ON.
WE TOOK GOOGLE MAPS AND, PUT IN SOME AVERAGE TIMES JUST BASED ON A NORMAL TIME OF DAY AS TO HOW LONG IT WOULD TAKE US TO GET FROM A TO B, TRYING TO MAINTAIN AND LOOK AT THAT AS ONE OF THE CRITERIA IN DEVELOPING THE BEAT MODEL OUT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ABLE TO GET FROM A TO B AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN.
NOW, YOU SEE, WHEN YOU'RE GOING FROM THE BLUEBIRD MEADOWS DEEP WEST AREA OVER TO THE HIGHWAY BEAT IN THE DEEP SOUTH AREA, THAT'S STILL A LONG DISTANCE TO TRAVEL, BUT YOUR GOAL WOULD BE TO GET THAT OFFICER FROM EITHER UP IN THE, IN THE, THE BEAT AREAS THAT ARE CLOSER TO THE SOUTH, THAT RED AREA OR WHERE THE OLD TOWN IS.
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I WANT TO, EXPRESS SOME SOME APPRECIATION FOR ASHLEY BANNING AND, CHAD AND CAROLINE AND THE PUBLIC SAFETY TEAM THAT HAS WORKED SIDE BY SIDE WITH US TO GET THESE PRIORITIZATION OF CALLS OUTLINED, AS WELL AS DEVELOPING PROTOCOLS, DIFFERENT TYPES OF CALLS WITH POLICE, SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU SEE WITH EMD WITH THE FIRE, BUT DEVELOPING PROTOCOLS, THAT MAKES IT A LOT SIMPLER FOR OUR COMMUNICATIONS TO PULL UP THE TYPE CALL THAT WE'RE GOING ON TO BE ABLE TO ASK THE RIGHT QUESTIONS.HER TEAM HAS BEEN PHENOMENAL TO WORK WITH, AND I CAN'T SAY ENOUGH THINGS, POSITIVE ABOUT THEM AND THE TRANSITION THAT WE'VE HAD WITHIN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND OUR COMMUNICATIONS GROUP. SO, SO SHOUT OUT TO THEM.
WITH THAT, I WILL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
CHIEF, I LIKE THE IDEA OF THE BEATS.
I THINK THIS IS A GREAT STEP FORWARD.
ONE QUESTION I WOULD HAVE WHEN YOU MAKE THIS TRANSITION, DO YOU HAVE THE VEHICLES, EQUIPMENT AND OFFICERS TO SMOOTHLY MAKE THIS TRANSITION? UPFRONT WE WON'T. THIS WILL BE A TRANSITION COMING IN.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT AT CHISHOLM SUMMIT IS THE BEST EXAMPLE I CAN GIVE YOU.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE DOING THIS NOW AND IN PREPARATION BECAUSE IT TAKES US ABOUT A YEAR TO GET IN A NEW OFFICER AND GET THEM OUT ON THE STREET, GET THEM TRAINED, GET THEM OUT ON THE STREET SOLO STATUS.
IT TAKES CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF TIME TO GET OUR VEHICLES IN.
THAT WAS A BIG PART OF PULL THIS NOW AND GET THIS HEADED IN THAT DIRECTION.
SO WE'LL BE COMING BACK TO YOU AND LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, WHAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE TO STAFF THAT.
NOW, IF YOU WENT IN THERE AND YOU DID THIS TODAY, THE NUMBER THAT THEY CAME UP WITH FROM THE LIEUTENANTS AND THE CAPTAINS WERE 19 OFFICERS TO HANDLE THIS 24 HOURS A DAY, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK TO MAKE SURE THAT WE MET THAT CRITERIA.
WE REALIZE THAT IT'S GOING TO BE A PHASE IN BUT NOT ALL OF THOSE AREAS.
LIKE I SAID BY CHISHOLM SUMMIT, YOU WOULD BE AS CONCERNED ABOUT TODAY.
THOSE WILL BE MANDATORY STAFFING, AND THEN ONE JUST BELOW THAT A LITTLE BIT IS MANDATORY STAFFING, AND THEN MAYBE ON THE TENTACLES DOWN BELOW IN THE SOUTH AND WEST WOULD BE MANDATORY STAFFING.
THEN YOU'RE PULLING OFFICERS FROM THESE AREAS TO COME INTO THAT.
THAT'S NOT QUITE AS DENSE AREA.
SO YOU'RE SHORTENING THOSE RESPONSE TIMES OUT AT THAT POINT.
IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S GOING TO HAVE A BETTER POLICE PRESENCE IN THE COMMUNITY TOO, WON'T IT? YES, SIR. THE BIG GOAL ON THAT IS, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T SPEND AS MUCH TIME WHERE THERE'S NOT AS MANY CALLS.
WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO GET OUT THERE AND BE VISIBLE.
THAT IS NOT A QUICK TRIP, AND IF YOU ARE HAVING A PROBLEM WITH A SUSPECT, YOU'RE IN A FIGHT.
SO THIS IS AIMED A LOT AT PROTECTING OUR OFFICERS AND THEIR SAFETY.
ANYBODY ELSE? GREATLY APPRECIATE YOU MENTIONING THAT, CHIEF, BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DISCUSSED AT THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE MEETING, BUT KUDOS TO EVERYONE IN THE PD AND PUBLIC SAFETY COMMUNICATIONS FOR COMING TOGETHER, HAVING SUCH A THOROUGH, REPORT, AND YOU GUYS ALL LOOKED AT EVERY ANGLE OF THIS AND INCLUDED THE ENTIRE DEPARTMENT, THE BOOTS ON THE GROUND, DRIVING IT BUT WE REALLY, IN THIS COMMUNITY PRIDE OURSELVES IN HAVING A RELATIONSHIP WITH OUR PD, AND IT'S I'M ALWAYS IT ALWAYS MAKES ME SMILE ON THE ON THE OFFICER VEHICLES WHEN IT SAYS, YOU KNOW, POLICING WITH THE COMMUNITY OR I'M PROBABLY MISSING THAT QUOTE UP, BUT IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE COMMUNITY, AND SO THAT'S A REALLY HAVING THE PRESENCE, HAVING THE RELATIONSHIPS. I ALWAYS BRAG I SAID THIS IN OUR COMMITTEE MEETING ON OUR SRO PROGRAM BECAUSE IT'S ABOUT RELATIONSHIPS.
THOSE SROS ARE IN THE SCHOOLS, AND THEY KNOW THE STUDENTS' FACES, THEY KNOW THEIR FAMILIES.
THERE'S RAPPORT, AND THIS GOES A LONG WAY IN REPLICATING THAT IN OUR COMMUNITY.
OUR COMMUNITY WANTS TO SEE OFFICERS.
IT SPEAKS VOLUMES, AND IT EVEN MORE SO WHEN WE HAVE THOSE INDIVIDUAL RELATIONSHIPS, WHEN WE CAN SAY, HEY, JAY, YOU KNOW, AND ASK QUESTIONS AND, AND BE ABLE TO, TO COMFORTABLY SOMETIMES IT'S ABOUT THE COMFORT LEVEL TO JUST A SIMPLE QUESTION OF, WAS I SUPPOSED TO HAND OVER MY INSURANCE CARD TO THE PERSON THAT HIT ME QUESTION AND I CALLED THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST IMPORTANT TO HAVE RAPPORT AND IT GOES A REALLY LONG WAY, AND I'M VERY PROUD OF THE PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE HERE IN BPD, AND KUDOS TO YOU ALL FOR THE JOB THAT YOU DID IN RESTRUCTURING THIS, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING HOW IT COMES TO FRUITION.
ANYBODY ELSE? GREAT JOB CHIEF.
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THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.THANK YOU. THAT BRINGS US TO SECTION NINE CITY COUNCIL REQUEST FOR FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS AND REPORTS.
OKAY, THAT BRINGS US TO SECTION TEN.
EXECUTIVE SESSION. WE DO HAVE A NEED FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION.
[10.RECESS INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION (Part 2 of 2)]
CITY COUNCIL WILL CONVENE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO 551.071.IS THERE A MOTION TO CONVENE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION? I GOT A MOTION BY ADAM.
A SECOND BY VICTORIA. PLEASE VOTE.
WE'RE GOING TO EXECUTIVE SESSION AT 8:09.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.