Feb 05, 2024 City Council Regular Meeting

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I'M GOING TO OPEN THE SESSION UP AT 5:30.

[ 1. CALL TO ORDER]

HE'S WITH THE PASTOR OF CROSS TIMBERS BAPTIST CHURCH.

HE'S GOING TO SAY OUR INVOCATION.

WOULD EVERYBODY PLEASE RISE FOR OUR PRAYER AND ALSO OUR PLEDGES? LET'S PRAY TOGETHER. FATHER, WE ARE SO GRATEFUL FOR THE FACT THAT YOU CREATED ALL THINGS.

YOU KNOW ALL THINGS.

YOU SEE ALL THINGS, AND YOU HOLD ALL THINGS TOGETHER.

WE'RE THANKFUL FOR THIS COUNCIL AND FOR THIS CITY.

WE'RE THANKFUL FOR THE PRIVILEGE THAT THEY HAVE TO REPRESENT US.

AND SO, LORD, I PRAY THAT YOU WOULD GIVE THEM WISDOM.

YOU WOULD GIVE THEM UNDERSTANDING, THAT YOU WOULD GIVE THEM THE ABILITY AND THE HEART TO LOOK AFTER THE BEST INTERESTS OF THE CITIZENS AND OF THIS CITY.

WE THANK YOU THAT YOU WATCH OVER US.

WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR GOODNESS, AND WE THANK YOU FOR JESUS THE SAVIOR.

AND WE PRAY IN HIS NAME.

AMEN, AMEN, AMEN.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

THAT BRINGS US TO SECTION TWO, PUBLIC PRESENTATIONS OF TONIGHT'S AGENDA.

WE HAVE NO PROCLAMATIONS AND NO PRESENTATIONS AT THIS TIME.

SO THAT BRINGS US ON TO ITEM TWO C, COMMUNITY INTEREST ITEMS.

[2.C.Community Interest Items]

MISS OPAL LEE FROM FORT WORTH IS GOING TO BE HERE IN THE CHAMBER TO SIGN SOME CHILDREN'S BOOKS, FOR CELEBRATE BLACK HISTORY MONTH.

SHE'S GOING TO BE HERE FROM TEN TILL 12 TO SIGN BOOKS FOR CHILDREN.

SO I HOPE WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE.

THANK YOU. THIS THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 8TH FROM 4:30 TO 7 IS CITY FEST AND WE WILL HAVE DEPARTMENTS ALL THROUGHOUT THE CITY REPRESENTED AT THE BRICK.

IT'S FREE. THERE'S FOOD, THERE'S GOODIES, GIVEAWAYS.

IF YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO SWING BY, THIS IS STOP AND GO.

JUST ASK QUESTIONS, COLLECT INFORMATION.

THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO CONNECT WITH ANYONE AND EVERYONE FROM THE CITY.

THANK YOU. I'D LIKE TO MAKE EVERYBODY AWARE THAT THE THE COUNTY JOHNSON COUNTY HAS, IS HAVING A MASTER PLAN FOR THE COUNTY ROADS.

AND FREESE AND NICHOLS IS DOING THIS STUDY AND THEY ARE ALSO HAVING, PUBLIC VIEWINGS ON THIS.

NOW, WE'VE ALREADY HAD ONE, AND WE DIDN'T GET THE WORD OUT THERE ON THAT.

BUT BE AWARE THAT THIS IS HUGE FOR OUR COUNTY.

THE FACT THAT WE HAVE 200,000 PEOPLE COMING TOWARDS OUR COUNTY AND NOT HAVE A MASTER PLAN.

SO HATS OFF TO JUDGE BAKER AND THE COMMISSIONERS ON GETTING THAT DONE.

STAY AWARE OF WHAT'S HAPPENING.

IF YOU LIVE IN THE COUNTY, IN THE CITY, THIS IS PERTINENT TO YOU, NOT JUST THE TOWNS AND THE COUNTIES, BUT ALSO THE ISD'S.

IT'S A BIG DEAL FOR US, SO STAY AWARE OF THAT.

THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, THAT BRINGS US TO SECTION THREE, CHANGES TO THE POSTED AGENDA.

THERE ARE NO ITEMS TO BE CONTINUED OR WITHDRAWN.

THAT MOVES US ON TO ITEM THREE B, WHICH IS ITEMS TO BE WITHDRAWN FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR SEPARATE DISCUSSION BY THE CITY COUNCIL, BY STAFF, OR BY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC IN

[3.B.Items to be withdrawn from the Consent Agenda for separate discussion by the City Council, staff, or members of the public in attendance. Items to be added to the Consent Agenda require an official vote by the City Council.]

THERE IS NONE, SO THAT WILL MOVE US ON TO SECTION FOUR.

[4.CITIZENS APPEARANCES]

EACH PERSON IN ATTENDANCE WHO DESIRES TO SPEAK TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON AN ITEM NOT POSTED ON THE AGENDA, SHALL SPEAK.

DURING THIS SECTION.

A SPEAKER CARD MUST BE FILLED OUT AND TURNED INTO THE CITY SECRETARY PRIOR TO ADDRESSING THE CITY COUNCIL.

EACH SPEAKER WILL BE ALLOWED THREE MINUTES.

PLEASE NOTE THAT EACH EACH PERSON IN ATTENDANCE WHO DESIRES TO SPEAK TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON AN ITEM POSTED ON THE AGENDA FOR ACTION SHALL SPEAK WHEN THAT ITEM IS CALLED FORWARD FOR CONSIDERATION.

AT THIS TIME, I DO HAVE ONE SPEAKER CARD FOR CITIZENS APPEARANCE, HELEN KERWIN.

THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR LETTING ME COME AND SPEAK TO YOU BRIEFLY.

I AM FROM GLEN ROSE AND I'M RUNNING FOR YOUR NEXT STATE REPRESENTATIVE, HOUSE DISTRICT 58 JOHNSON AND SOMERVILLE COUNTY.

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I WAS MAYOR OF GLEN ROSE AND I WAS THE COUNTY COMMISSIONER, THE FIRST REPUBLICAN ELECTED.

AND I'M EXCITED TO BE CAMPAIGNING ON A STATE LEVEL.

AND JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, MY ISSUES THAT I AM TRYING TO RUN ON ARE, OF COURSE, NUMBER ONE, OUR BORDER.

I THINK WE ALL AGREE ON THAT.

I ALSO BELIEVE IN EMPOWERING PARENTS, TO BE IN THE DECISION MAKING PROCESS FOR THE EDUCATION OF THEIR CHILDREN.

I AM A BIG BELIEVER OF, ELECTION INTEGRITY.

I WOULD LIKE TO ENACT CIVIL AND CRIMINAL PENALTIES FOR FRAUDULENT VOTING.

I THINK THAT'S THE VERY BASIS OF OUR DEMOCRACY.

AND I HAVE RECENTLY LEARNED, AND I'M GETTING ON BOARD ON THE ELIMINATE OUR PROPERTY TAXES MOVEMENT.

I THINK THAT THERE'S SOME SERIOUS CONSIDERATION FOR A BILL IN AUSTIN IN THE NEXT SESSION.

I KNOW IT'S BEEN PRESENTED SEVERAL TIMES.

THERE'S ALTERNATIVES AND RESTRUCTURING THAT HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED.

BUT, I AM VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF PURSUING THAT.

SO THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK.

AND I WANT YOU ALL TO KNOW THAT I BELIEVE IN RUNNING A POSITIVE CAMPAIGN, AND I AM IF IT DOESN'T TURN OUT THAT WAY, MY APOLOGIES. IT'S OUT OF MY POWER.

AND, I JUST LOOK FORWARD TO A GOOD, HEALTHY DEBATE IN MY CAMPAIGN.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER.

NO. ALL RIGHT.

WELL, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE IN ATTENDANCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON AN ITEM NOT POSTED ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA? THERE IS NONE. SO WE WILL MOVE ON TO SECTION FIVE.

[5.CONSENT AGENDA]

ALL ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA ARE CONSIDERED TO BE ROUTINE BY THE CITY COUNCIL, AND WILL BE ENACTED WITH ONE MOTION.

THERE WILL BE NO SEPARATE DISCUSSION ON THE ITEMS AND APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA.

AUTHORIZES THE CITY MANAGER TO IMPLEMENT EACH ITEM IN ACCORDANCE WITH STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS.

TONIGHT, THE CONSENT AGENDA IS ITEMS FIVE A THROUGH FIVE F.

IS THERE A MOTION ON THIS? I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.

SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION BY LARRY.

A SECOND BY VICTORIA.

PLEASE VOTE. PASSES UNANIMOUS.

THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

THAT BRINGS US TO SECTION SIX DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS.

[6.A.1560 Broad Valley Court (Case 23-345): Hold a public hearing and consider approval of an ordinance for a zoning change request from “SFR”, Single-family rural district to “SFE”, Single-family estate district for 4.619 acres of property. (First and Final Reading) (Staff Presenter: Tony McIlwain, Development Services Director) (The Planning and Zoning Commission recommended approval by unanimous vote)]

TONIGHT IS TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER APPROVAL OF AN ORDINANCE FOR A ZONING CHANGE REQUEST FROM SFR SINGLE FAMILY RURAL DISTRICT TO SF SINGLE FAMILY ESTATE DISTRICT FOR 4.619 ACRES OF PROPERTY.

THIS IS BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL ON FIRST AND FINAL READING.

THE STAFF PRESENTER THIS EVENING IS TONY MCELWAIN, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DIRECTOR, MR. MCELWAIN. GOOD EVENING, MISS COMPOST.

MAYOR, MAYOR PRO TEM AND COUNCIL.

THE FIRST DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION BEFORE YOU IS A ZONING REQUEST.

MISS CAMPBELL, WHO IS IN ATTENDANCE TONIGHT, IS PETITIONING YOU TO CHANGE THE ZONING OF HER PROPERTY AT 51 560 BROAD VALLEY COURT. BY WAY OF BASIS OF THE CURRENT EXISTING ZONING IS A SINGLE FAMILY RULE.

SO THIS ZONING IS UNIQUE IN THAT IT SERVES AS A LEGACY ZONING DISTRICT.

FOLLOWING THE ANNEXATIONS OF PROPERTIES THAT EXISTED PRIOR TO 1984, THE CITY LOCKED IN A SINGLE FAMILY RURAL ZONING DISTRICT, AND THOSE PROPERTIES GET TO REMAIN IN THAT ZONING DISTRICT IN PERPETUITY, PROVIDED CERTAIN TRIGGERS ARE NOT, AREN'T DON'T HAPPEN.

ONE OF THE TRIGGERS THAT CAN HAPPEN IS A SUBDIVISION APPLICATION, WHICH IS WHAT THE CITY STAFF RECEIVED AND DISCUSSIONS WITH MISS CAMPBELL.

WE ALERTED HER THAT THERE WAS AN ISSUE WITH PROCESSING HER ZONING APPLICATION, HER SUBDIVISION APPLICATION, RATHER.

BUT IT WILL ALSO TRIGGER A ZONING REQUEST FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

THE INTENT IS FOR THE PROPERTY TO REZONE TO BE REZONED FROM SINGLE FAMILY RULE TO SINGLE FAMILY ESTATE, WHICH IS STILL A LARGE LOT ZONING AND IN SUBSEQUENT, REPLANNING OF THE PROPERTY.

THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN HAS THIS AREA IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S DESIGNATION.

THIS ZONING REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMP PLAN, AND YOU SEE TO THE RIGHT OF THE SCREEN.

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HER REQUEST FOR SINGLE FAMILY ESTATE IS IN LINE WITH SOME OF THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES THAT YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN.

WE DID NOTIFY THOSE INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 300FT AND RECEIVED, NO INQUIRIES OR RESPONSES REGARDING THE ZONING REQUEST.

THE P AND Z RECOMMENDED APPROVAL BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.

THERE WAS NO DISCUSSION. NO SPEAKERS.

STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE REZONE REQUEST TO YOU AS WELL.

IT WILL BRING THE ZONING DISTRICT INTO ZONING, COMPLIANCE AND CONFORMITY WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA, AND ALSO REMOVE THE LEGACY ZONING OF SFR, FROM THE, FROM THIS PARTICULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY.

WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE PRIOR TO YOU OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING COUNCIL, HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? THEN I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 5:41.

I HAVE NO SPEAKER CARDS, MAYOR.

I HAVE NONE. THEN, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 5:42.

SO. IS THERE A MOTION ON THIS? MOVE TO APPROVE THE ZONING REQUEST.

WE HAVE A MOTION BY ADAM.

A SECOND BY VICTORIA. PLEASE VOTE.

PASSES UNANIMOUS.

THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM SIX B ALLEY CATS AT 1258 SOUTHWEST ALSBURY BOULEVARD.

[6.B.Alley Cats at 1258 SW Alsbury Blvd. (Case 23-399): Consider approval of a resolution for a variance to Chapter 63, Sign Regulations, relating to the number of poster signs per elevation. (Staff Presenter: Tony McIlwain, Development Services Director) ]

SO THIS IS TO CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION FOR A VARIANCE TO CHAPTER 63.

SIGN REGULATIONS RELATING TO THE NUMBER OF POSTER SIGNS PER EVENT.

SORRY I GOT STUCK THERE.

THE STAFF PRESENTER TONIGHT IS TONY MCELWAIN, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DIRECTOR.

MR. MCELWAIN. I'VE GOTTEN STUCK.

THANK YOU.

MAYOR AND COUNCIL, THIS IS A ZONING.

I'M SORRY, A SIGN VARIANCE REQUEST FOR ALLEY CATS, WHICH, AS YOU KNOW, IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

CITY STAFF RECEIVED A VARIANCE REQUEST FROM MS. CHELSEA DAVIS, REPRESENTING ALLEY CATS.

OUR CURRENT SIGN ORDINANCE, EXCUSE ME.

ALLOWS ONE SIGN PER CERTIFICATE OF ELEVATION.

ONE SIGN PER ELEVATION, PER CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY.

SO IN THE CASE OF ALLEY CATS, YOU HAVE ONE CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY.

WE HAVE A VERY LARGE BUILDING.

TYPICALLY IN THESE INSTANCES, THE LARGER THE SCALE OF THE BUILDING, THE MORE LIKELY AN APPLICANT IS TO REQUEST MULTIPLE SIGNS.

AND THIS IS A PARTICULAR CASE WITH ALLEY CATS.

THE VARIANCE THAT'S BEING REQUESTED OF YOU SPECIFICALLY IS TO ALLOW SIX POSTER SIGNS ON THE SOUTH ELEVATION OF THE BUILDING, AND THREE POSTER SIGNS ON THE EAST ELEVATION OF THE BUILDING. AND THE POSTER SIGNS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED ARE OFF TO THE RIGHT.

BASICALLY BIGGER, BETTER FUN, IN THREE SEPARATE, SIGNS WITH ONE WORD PER SIGN.

THIS GRAPHIC SHOWS YOU HOW THE SIGNS WOULD LOOK ALONG THE SOUTH ELEVATION.

I THINK THE NUMBER OF SIGNS, THE SIZE AND SCALE OF THE SIGNS ARE COMPATIBLE WITH THE BUILDING.

AND ON THE EAST ELEVATION, AGAIN, THE SAME THING.

YOU'VE GOT 160FT OF BUILDING RUN ON THE EAST ELEVATION AND, ALMOST 300FT ON A SOUTH ELEVATION, WITH THE SIGNS, BEING, OF AN APPROXIMATE SCALE AND, LOCATION OF ONE ANOTHER TO CONVEY THE MESSAGE OF THE BANNER.

YOUR CONSIDERATIONS.

ANY TIME WE BRING FORWARD A SIGN VARIANCE OR ON THE SCREEN IN FRONT OF YOU, WHETHER OR NOT THERE ARE SPECIAL CONDITIONS, WHETHER OR NOT THE STRICT INTERPRETATION WOULD DEPRIVE THE APPLICANT OF RIGHTS COMMONLY ENJOYED BY OTHER PROPERTIES, SPECIAL CONDITIONS AND CIRCUMSTANCES.

WHETHER GRANTING THE VARIANCE WILL MEET THE OBJECTIVE OF THE CODE IS THE VARIANCE, THE MINIMUM NECESSARY, AND WHETHER OR NOT THE VARIANCE WILL BE IN HARMONY WITH THE SPIRIT AND PURPOSE OF THE CHAPTER.

IN OUR EVALUATION OF THE REQUEST, WE ARE IN SUPPORT OF THE SIGN VARIANCE.

WE THINK THAT WITH THE BUILDING THE SIZE OF ALLEY SIZE AND SCALE OF ALLEY CATS, THE SIGNS SEEM TO BE VERY COMPATIBLE.

WE THINK THAT THE NATURE OF THE SIGNS RELATIVE TO WHAT IS BEING DEVELOPED ON THE SITE, ARE COMPATIBLE AND CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE SEE WITH OTHER LARGE AMUSEMENT SCALE OPERATIONS.

SO OUR RECOMMENDATION IS TO SUPPORT OF THE SIGN VARIANCE AND NOW ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE FROM THE STAFF.

ANYBODY. IS THERE A MOTION ON THIS? PROVED. SECOND, HAVE A MOTION BY RONNIE.

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PASSES. UNANIMOUS. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. THAT BRINGS US TO SECTION SEVEN.

[7.A.Consider approval of a Resolution ordering the May 4, 2024 General Election. (Staff Presenter: Amanda Campos, City Secretary)]

STAFF PRESENTER IS AMANDA CAMPOS, CITY SECRETARY.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

I'M BEFORE YOU ONCE AGAIN WITH ELECTION INFORMATION.

THIS TIME NOT JUST INFORMATION, BUT REQUESTING ACTION BY THE CITY COUNCIL.

THIS YEAR, THE GENERAL ELECTION IS MAY 4TH, 2024, WHICH IS A UNIFORM ELECTION DAY WHICH IS REQUIRED FOR US TO DO OUR CITY COUNCIL ELECTIONS.

THIS YEAR. ON THE BALLOT IS COUNCIL PLACES ONE, THREE AND FIVE, ALL FOR FULL TERMS. THE GOVERNING BODY OF THE CITY IS REQUIRED TO ORDER THE ELECTION 78 DAY BEFORE THE ELECTION.

THAT WOULD BE FEBRUARY 16TH.

SO WE ARE WELL WITHIN THE LEGAL REQUIREMENT OF WHEN TO ORDER THIS ELECTION.

RESOLUTION ORDERING THE ELECTION HAS TO BE DONE IN AN OPEN MEETING.

THAT'S WHY WE'RE DOING IT RIGHT NOW HERE IN AN OPEN MEETING.

AND THIS YEAR WE WILL BE CONDUCTING OUR OWN ELECTIONS, BECAUSE JOHNSON COUNTY WILL NOT RUN ELECTIONS OR CONTRACT FOR ELECTION SERVICES ON EVEN NUMBERED IN MAY, IN THE MONTH OF MAY.

THE ELEMENTS OF THE ELECTION ORDER BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING.

JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, IS THE ELECTION DATE, THE ELECTION RACES, THE FILING DATE, THE BALLOT ORDER, THE ELECTION, THE ESTABLISHING ELECTION PRECINCTS, THE ELECTION JUDGES YOU'LL BE NAMING THIS EVENING, THE PRESIDING AND THE ALTERNATE JUDGE, THE EARLY VOTING CLERK.

YOU WILL ALSO BE NAMING.

YOU'LL ADOPT THE VOTING EQUIPMENT.

IF YOU REMEMBER, I TOLD YOU BACK IN JANUARY THAT WE WERE PURCHASING NEW VOTING EQUIPMENT.

WE HAVE DONE THAT. YOU GUYS HAVE APPROVED THE CONTRACT, BUT TONIGHT WE ARE GOING TO ADOPT THAT FORMALLY ADOPT THAT EQUIPMENT.

WE HAVE RECEIVED APPROVAL FROM THE TEXAS SECRETARY OF STATE'S OFFICE TO USE THAT EQUIPMENT.

SO WE ARE WELL WITHIN COMPLIANT ON THAT.

EARLY VOTING BY MAIL AND IN PERSON WILL SET THOSE IN THERE THE ELECTION DAY, THE POLLING PLACES, AND THEN THE RUNOFF ELECTION DATE WILL ALSO BE STATED IN OUR ELECTION ORDER.

JUST SO THE COUNCIL UNDERSTANDS THIS ELECTION ORDER, THE ELEMENTS OF THE ELECTION ORDER THAT WE DO AS THE CITY OF BURLESON, WHICH SOME CITIES DO AND NOT ALL DO, IS BEYOND JUST THE BASIC WE, I LIKE TO SAY, THROW EVERYTHING BUT THE KITCHEN SINK INTO THIS ELECTION ORDER SO THAT I'M NOT COMING BACK TO YOU WITH 10 OR 12 DIFFERENT INSTRUMENTS FOR YOU GUYS TO DO. WE DO EVERYTHING AT ONE TIME SO THAT WE CAN TRY TO GET AS MUCH INFORMATION OUT AT THE BEGINNING, INSTEAD OF COMING BACK AND PIECING IT TOGETHER.

SO THIS YEAR, OUR POLLING PLACE WILL BE THE BURLESON SUB COURTHOUSE.

AS YOU CAN SEE IN RED IS THE EXACT LOCATION.

THE ROOM NUMBER IS ALSO LISTED ON THERE.

EARLY VOTING IN PERSON WILL BEGIN MONDAY, APRIL 22ND.

RUN THROUGH FRIDAY THE 26TH.

THE HOURS ARE 8 TO 5.

ON SATURDAY WE WILL HAVE VOTING.

THAT'S 9 TO 3.

THEN ON MONDAY AND TUESDAY WE HAVE MORE 8 TO 5 VOTING THERE.

AND THEN ON ELECTION DAY, IT'S IN THE EXACT SAME LOCATION.

AND JUST BECAUSE WE ARE LATER, THE NEXT ITEM I'LL ASK IS FOR A JOINT RESOLUTION WITH THE BURLESON INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT.

SO THEY'LL HOLD THE EXACT SAME VOTING LOCATIONS.

SO ANYBODY IN THE CITY OF BURLESON WHO'S IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT OR THE CITY OF BURLESON WILL HAVE THE SAME EXACT VOTING POLLING PLACE ON MAY 4TH AND THEN ELECTION DAY. OF COURSE, THE POLLS WILL BE OPEN 7 A.M.

TO 7 P.M.. IF YOU REQUEST A BALLOT BY MAIL, THE APPLICATION TO REQUEST ONE SHOULD BE SENT TO ME AT EARLY VOTING CLERK AND THEN THE ADDRESS IS LISTED THERE.

ANNUAL BALLOTS BY MAIL.

EXCUSE ME. THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT THE VOTERS HAVE FILLED OUT BEGINNING JANUARY 1ST TO GET A BALLOT BY MAIL ALL YEAR LONG SO THEY WILL AUTOMATICALLY GET THOSE BALLOTS FROM US AS THE CITY.

THEY DO NOT HAVE TO PUT IN A SEPARATE APPLICATION.

THOSE ARE ALREADY DONE.

SO IF YOU'VE DONE AN ANNUAL BALLOT BY MAIL, THOSE ARE ALREADY SET FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR.

THE COUNTY WILL AUTOMATICALLY SEND THOSE APPLICATIONS TO ME SO THAT I CAN MAKE SURE I GET THOSE BALLOTS OUT TO THOSE VOTERS.

THE RUNOFF ELECTION AND THE CITY WILL BE CONDUCTING OUR OWN ELECTION.

WE'LL BE DOING THAT SEPARATELY BECAUSE THE SCHOOL DISTRICT VOTES BY PLURALITY, MEANING WHOEVER GETS THE MOST VOTES WINS IN THE CITY.

WE DO BY MAJORITY. SO 50% OF THE VOTES PLUS ONE MUST BE GAINED BY ANY ONE CANDIDATE IN ORDER TO SUCCEED IN THAT RACE.

THE NEW LEGISLATIVE CHANGE THIS YEAR WAS THAT THE THE TEXAS SECRETARY OF STATES WILL DETERMINE WHAT THE RUNOFF DATE IS FOR THE ELECTION, AND THEY'VE SET IT FOR JUNE

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YOU DON'T EVER HEAR ME SAY THAT VERY OFTEN, BUT I WILL TELL YOU, IT'S A GOOD CHANGE.

WHAT THAT DOES IS THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE STATE OF TEXAS, IF YOU HOLD A MAY 4TH ELECTION, EVERY ENTITY WILL HOLD THEIR RUNOFF ELECTION ON JUNE 15TH.

PRIOR TO THAT, IT COULD BE ALL OVER THE PLACE, DEPENDING ON A CITY CHARTER, DEPENDING ON THEIR ACTION THAT THEY TAKE.

SO THEY HAD A TIME. WE ALL HAD A TIME FRAME TO DO IT WITHIN AND PEOPLE DID IT ALL OVER THE PLACE.

SO I THINK THIS IS GOOD.

THIS SAYS AND WE STATE THAT THE UNIFORM ELECTION DAY IS MAY 4TH.

NOW WE'RE STATING THE RUNOFF DATE IS JUNE 15TH.

SO THERE'S NO VOTER CONFUSION THERE TOO.

GOOD MOVE. LEGISLATURE.

SO EARLY VOTING STARTS JUNE 3RD AND GOES THROUGH THE 11TH FOR THAT.

YES, SIR. WILL THE RUNOFF BE AT THE SUB COURTHOUSE? EVERYTHING WILL BE EXACTLY THE SAME.

CORRECT. SO ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THIS ANYBODY? EVERYTHING WILL BE AT THE BURLESON SUB COURT HOUSE.

THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING YOU.

WHAT ABOUT TARRANT COUNTY? YES.

EVERYBODY, ANY VOTER, THAT'S A CITY OF BURLESON VOTER, WHETHER THEY'RE TARRANT COUNTY OR JOHNSON COUNTY, DOESN'T MATTER ANYMORE FOR THIS ELECTION.

JUST FOR THE MAY 4TH ELECTION.

I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR.

FOR EVERY OTHER ELECTION, THEY'LL NEED TO CHECK.

BUT FOR THE CITY OF BURLESON, IF YOU ARE A VOTER ELIGIBLE TO VOTE IN THE CITY ELECTION, YOU WILL GO TO ONE LOCATION.

THAT'S THE BURLESON SUB COURTHOUSE, 247 ELK DRIVE, ROOM 212.

IF YOU ARE A BURLESON INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT VOTER, WHETHER YOU ARE IN TARRANT COUNTY OR JOHNSON COUNTY, BUT YOU ARE A BURLESON INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT VOTER, YOU WILL GO ALSO TO THE BURLESON SUB COURTHOUSE.

247 ELK DRIVE, ROOM 212.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? GO AHEAD.

RONNIE. ONE LOCATION.

YES, SIR. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YOU READY FOR A VOTE? YES, SIR. IS THERE A MOTION ON THIS? CAN YOU? I'M SORRY.

CAN YOU SWITCH THAT OVER? SORRY. I MOVE TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION ORDERING THE ELECTION.

I NEED A SECOND. SECOND.

IS IT NOT WORKING? NOT WORKING? I HAVE A MOTION BY ADAM, I HAVE A SECOND BY LARRY.

PLEASE VOTE BY HAND.

PASSES UNANIMOUS.

CAN SOMEONE SET THE NEXT.

MICHAEL, CAN YOU SET THE, THANK YOU.

THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM SEVEN B, CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A JOINT ELECTION RESOLUTION WITH THE BURLESON INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT FOR THE MAY 4TH, 2024 GENERAL ELECTION.

[7.B.Consider approval of a Joint Election Resolution with the Burleson Independent School District for the May 4, 2024 General Election. (Staff Presenter: Amanda Campos, City Secretary)]

THANK YOU MAYOR AND COUNCIL ONCE AGAIN ELECTIONS.

THIS IS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE JOINT ELECTION WITH THE BURLESON INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT, WHICH I'D KIND OF MENTIONED BEFORE IN THE PREVIOUS PRESENTATION OF THE ORDER.

SO THIS IS A JOINT ELECTION TO BE HELD.

AND THE REASON WHY WE CAN DO THIS IS BECAUSE WE ARE TWO ENTITIES HOLDING AN ELECTION ON THE SAME UNIFORM ELECTION DATE, WHICH WE ARE LOCATED EITHER WHOLLY OR PARTLY IN. SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE COMPLETELY INSIDE THE JURISDICTION.

YOU JUST HAVE TO SHARE SOME KIND OF BOUNDARIES OR SOME KIND OF OVERLAP IN ORDER TO DO THIS.

I SAY THAT TO YOU BECAUSE I'LL MAY BE BRINGING SOME OTHER STUFF FORWARD TO YOU WITH OTHER ENTITIES THAT WOULD LIKE TO PARTICIPATE IN SHARING A POLLING LOCATION WITH US ON ELECTION DAY. THIS ONE BEFORE YOU TODAY IS CITY OF BURLESON AND THE BURLESON INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT FOR THE MAY 4TH, 2024 ELECTION.

EACH ENTITY WILL RETAIN ITS OBLIGATION FOR NOTICE REQUIREMENTS.

THAT MEANS THEY'RE GOING TO BE REQUIRED TO PERFORM ALL OF THEIR DUTIES FOR NOTICING, AND WE WILL FOR OURS, AND WE'LL HAVE SEPARATE BALLOTS.

WE WILL NOT HAVE A JOINT BALLOT OR A UNIFIED BALLOT IN ANY WAY.

YOU'LL HAVE TWO BALLOTS, SO VOTERS THAT ARE ELIGIBLE TO VOTE IN THE CITY AND THE SCHOOL WILL RECEIVE TWO BALLOTS.

SCHOOL ONLY, ONLY A SCHOOL BALLOT, CITY, CITY BALLOT.

IT'S EASIER THAT WAY, ESPECIALLY SINCE WE HAVE A LOT OF OVERLAP.

I DON'T THINK PEOPLE REALIZE THAT WE HAVE CITY OF FORT WORTH RESIDENTS WHO ARE BURLESON INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT VOTERS.

SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF MULTITUDE OF VOTERS HERE IN OUR NECK OF THE WOODS HERE WE HAVE TWO COUNTIES, TWO SCHOOL DISTRICTS, TWO CITIES.

SO WE CAN OVERLAP IN ANY WAY.

WE WILL DO A 50/50 SPLIT ON ALL THE SHARED RESOURCE COSTS.

SO THEY'RE NOT GOING TO PAY FOR OUR NOTICE REQUIREMENTS THAT WE'RE REQUIRED TO NOTICE, WE'RE NOT GOING TO PAY FOR THEIRS.

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YOU'LL NOTICE BALLOTS ARE NOT LISTED UNDER SHARED SHARED RESOURCES.

LIKE I STATED PREVIOUSLY, A SEPARATE BALLOT WILL BE DONE, SO THEY'LL PAY FOR THEIR BALLOTS, WE'LL PAY FOR OURS, BUT WE WILL SHARE A POLLING LOCATION, ELECTION WORKERS, EQUIPMENT. THEY'LL SHARE ME, THE EARLY VOTING CLERK, AND THE HOURS WILL ALL SHARE THE SAME.

AND I TALK ABOUT THE SHARED RESOURCES THERE, SO THEY'LL ALL ALSO SHARE PRESIDING AN ALTERNATE JUDGE.

SO ARE YOUR ORDER THAT JUST NAMED OUR ALTERNATE AND PRESIDING JUDGE WILL ALSO BE THE JUDGES THAT THEY DO.

THE PRESIDING JUDGE IS THE ONE THAT APPOINTS ALL OF THE WORKERS AFTER THIS POINT.

SO THE GOVERNING BODY APPOINTS THE PRESIDING JUDGE AND THE ALTERNATE JUDGE.

BUT THEN THE ELECTION JUDGE THEMSELVES ARE THE ONES THAT WILL SELECT THE ELECTION WORKERS.

THE EQUIPMENT WILL BE USED, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT HAS AGREED TO USE THE SAME, THAT THEY'RE IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT EQUIPMENT THAT WE WILL BE USING, AND THEY ARE IN AGREEMENT THAT I WILL BE THEIR EARLY VOTING CLERK, SHOULD WE HOLD A JOINT ELECTION? HERE ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE, AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS IS A FLIER THAT WAS CREATED IN MY OFFICE THAT WE'LL BE PUTTING OUT THIS YEAR.

IT'S A SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.

WE'LL CREATE A URL CODE TO DO THAT.

WE'LL ALSO HAVE THAT LINKED ON OUR WEBSITE.

WE'LL PUT OUT SOME MORE MAYBE YARD SIGNS, SIMPLE YARD SIGNS.

IT'S A LOT OF INFORMATION TO GIVE TO SOMEBODY.

IT'S NOT AS EASY AS SAYING, CAN I JUST SCAN THIS AND WHERE DO I VOTE? WHAT TIME DO I VOTE? BECAUSE THERE'S MULTITUDE OF OPPORTUNITIES.

IF WE WERE SOMEWHERE ELSE WHERE THEY HAD LIMITED EARLY VOTING HOURS OR LIMITED EARLY VOTING DAYS, THEN IT WOULD LOOK DIFFERENTLY.

BUT I WANTED EVERYBODY TO BE VERY CLEAR ON THIS.

SO WE'LL BE PUSHING THIS OUT OVER AND OVER DURING THE COURSE UNTIL EARLY VOTING STARTS.

AND THAT'S ALL THE INFORMATION ON THERE, SO YOU CAN SEE THAT.

AND THEN I'M OPEN FOR ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS THAT ANYBODY WOULD HAVE ON THIS ITEM.

ANYBODY? IS THERE A MOTION ON THIS? MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

I GOT A MOTION BY PHIL AND A SECOND BY DAN.

PLEASE VOTE. PASSES UNANIMOUS.

THANK YOU MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

THANK YOU MAYOR AND COUNCIL, THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM SEVEN C, WHICH IS CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A BID AWARD TO TWO L CONSTRUCTION FOR THE ELLISON STREET AND PARKING IMPROVEMENTS

[7.C.Consider approval of a bid award to 2L Construction for the Ellison Street and Parking Improvements project in the amount of $2,911,727.40 with a project contingency of $60,000. (Staff Presenter: Tiana Jackson, Engineering Manager – Capital)]

OH, I AM HAVING DIFFICULTY THIS EVENING.

A LITTLE OVER 2.9 MILLION, HOW'S THAT? YEAH, WITH THE WITH THE PROJECT CONTINGENCY OF $60,000.

THE STAFF PRESENTED THIS EVENING IS TIANA JACKSON, ENGINEERING MANAGER, CAPITAL.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, THANK YOU, MISS AMANDA.

AS SHE SAID, I'M TIANA JACKSON.

I AM THE ENGINEERING MANAGER OF OUR CAPITAL DIVISION GROUP HERE IN PUBLIC WORKS AND ENGINEERING.

AND WE'RE HERE TONIGHT TO TALK ABOUT A CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT FOR THE ELLISON STREET AND PARKING IMPROVEMENTS.

SO A LITTLE BIT OF PROJECT HISTORY.

SOME OF YOU MAY BE FAMILIAR.

THE CITY AND BTX, OLD TOWN LLC ACTUALLY ENTERED INTO A CHAPTER 380 AGREEMENT BACK IN DECEMBER OF 2020 FOR A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT LOCATED AT ONE 114 AND 135 WEST ELLISON.

AND PER THE AGREEMENT, THE CITY IS OBLIGATED TO DEMOLISH THE BUILDING AT 225 WEST RENFROE STREET.

WE CALL ANNEX THREE, SOME OF YOU MAY KNOW IT AS HR BUILDING.

ACTUALLY THE OLD PD STATION.

EVEN OLDER THAN THAT, IT WAS AN OLD POST OFFICE FOR THE CITY.

SO, IT'S GONE THROUGH MANY EVOLUTIONS AS WELL AS THAT WE ARE TO CONSTRUCT A PUBLIC PARKING LOT AND PROVIDE A PAD SITE FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT ON THAT LOT. GENERAL PROJECT OVERVIEW.

OUR DESIGN CONSULTANT, DUNAWAY, DEVELOPED SOME SITE LAYOUT OPTIONS TO OPTIMIZE THE REDEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL OF THIS AREA.

BACK IN JUNE OF 2023, COUNCIL ACTUALLY SELECTED OPTION THREE, WHICH IS THE CONCEPT LAYOUT TO THE RIGHT, AND THE PICTURE, WHICH INCLUDES THE REALIGNMENT OF ELLISON STREET AND AN ENHANCED PEDESTRIAN CROSSING AT THE INTERSECTION OF JOHNSON, MAGNOLIA AND ELLISON.

SO IT KIND OF REALIGNS ELLISON TO TIE RIGHT IN WITH MAGNOLIA, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THEY'RE KIND OF OFFSET A BIT.

AND THEN THE CITY WILL CONSTRUCT THE ELLISON STREET REALIGNMENT ON AN OFF STREET PARKING, AND THEN A FUTURE DEVELOPER WILL ACTUALLY BE THE ONE TO BUILD THE BUILDING.

SOME PRIMARY COMPONENTS OF THIS CONTRACT ARE ASBESTOS ABATEMENT AND DEMOLITION OF THE ANNEX THREE BUILDING WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, AS WELL AS DEMO OF THE EXISTING OFF STREET PARKING, SOME STREETSCAPING ENHANCED PEDESTRIAN CROSSING, LIKE WE TALKED, AND SOME STREET LIGHTING ALONG JOHNSON TO WARREN AND THEN BRANSOM AND WITHIN THE PARKING LOTS.

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THE MAIN TAKEAWAY IS THAT WE'RE KIND OF EXTENDING THE LOOK AND FEEL OF THE PLAZA WESTWARD TOWARDS JOHNSON AND WANTING TO EXPAND THAT PEDESTRIAN ACCESSIBILITY AND ALSO GAIN SOME MORE PARKING. OVERALL, WE'RE NETTING 83 NEW PARKING SPACES, 16 BEING ADA.

THE PROJECT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN MULTIPLE PHASES, JUST TO KIND OF LIMIT THE DISTURBANCE OF THE BUSINESSES AND THE CHURCH DOWN HERE IN OLD TOWN, AND ALSO SOME OLD TOWN EVENTS THAT WE LOVE TO HAVE DOWN HERE.

SO PHASE ONE IS GOING TO BE THE ELLISON STREET ON STREET PARKING BETWEEN BRANSOM AND WARREN.

SO IT'S GOOD TO KNOW THAT THE STREET ITSELF IS NOT BEING DISTURBED.

IT'S JUST THE PEDESTRIAN ENHANCEMENTS AND THE OFF STREET PARKING IS GETTING REDONE.

AND THEN FOLLOWING THAT, PHASE TWO WILL OCCUR AND IT'S FROM BRANSOM GOING WESTWARD TOWARDS JOHNSON.

THIS IS THE ACTUAL STREET REALIGNMENT AND AN OFF STREET PARKING LOT THAT'S NEAR THE FIRST BAPTIST CHURCH.

PHASE THREE WILL ACTUALLY BE THE ASBESTOS ABATEMENT AND BUILDING DEMOLITION.

PHASE FOUR WILL THEN BE THE REMAINING PARKING LOT ON THE ANNEX THREE SITE.

IT'S GOOD TO KNOW THAT PHASE ONE AND TWO CAN HAPPEN ONE AFTER THE EACH OTHER, BUT PHASE THREE AND FOUR ARE KIND OF DEPENDENT ON THE CITY HALL RENOVATIONS.

WE STILL HAVE EXISTING STAFF IN ANNEX THREE.

AND SO UNTIL WE GET THE RENOVATIONS DONE, WE CAN'T FULLY MOVE STAFF OUT.

SO YOU'LL SEE THAT IN THE TIMELINE COMING UP.

BACK IN NOVEMBER, WE PUT OUT AN INVITATION TO BID AND WE RECEIVED FOUR SUBMISSIONS, THE LOW BID BEING A LITTLE OVER 2.9 MILLION, HIGH BID JUST BEING UNDER 3.3, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THE AWARD TO TWO WELL CONSTRUCTION, WHO WAS THE LOW BIDDER.

WE'RE ALSO ASKING TO ENCUMBER CONTINGENCY FUNDS OF 60,000.

SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A TOTAL ENCUMBRANCE OF $2,971,727.40.

THE FUNDING ITSELF FOR THE CONTRACT WILL BE ABOUT $45,000 IN FOR A NON BONDS, AND 2.9 MILLION IN TIF BONDS.

THIS IS THAT PROJECT TIMELINE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

ASSUMING THE CONTRACT GETS APPROVED TONIGHT, THEN WE WOULD HAVE NOTICE TO PROCEED FOLLOWING LATER ACTUALLY THIS WEEK WITH A PRE-CON MEETING.

AND THEN THEY ARE CONTRACTUALLY OBLIGATED TO COMPLETE THAT PHASE ONE BEFORE THE HOT SOUNDS OF SUMMER CONCERT.

SO THAT WAY THAT WHOLE BLOCK IS REDONE.

LOOKS PRETTY, THE INTERSECTION IS GOOD TO GO, AND WE CAN HAVE THAT OPEN FOR FOLKS TO PARK AND WALK AROUND.

IF WE GO WITHIN THE STRAIGHT 270 CALENDAR DAYS, THEN WE'RE ANTICIPATING BEING DONE IN NOVEMBER.

BUT LIKE I SAID, THAT'S KIND OF DEPENDENT ON WHEN THE CITY HALL RENOVATIONS GET DONE.

SO WE DID ANTICIPATE THERE COULD BE A LAG.

AND SO WE DO HAVE A SECOND MOBILIZATION IN THE CONTRACT IF WE NEED TO UTILIZE IT WITH THE CONTRACTOR.

LET'S SEE.

AND THEN PART OF OUR BIDDING PROCESS, WE'VE HAD OUR CONTRACTORS.

AND SO TWO L SUBMITTED A WORK HISTORY WITH OVER 60 MUNICIPAL CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS THAT THEY'VE COMPLETED SINCE 2009.

FOR THE CITY SPECIFICALLY, WE'VE USED THEM PREVIOUSLY FOR THE PLAZA VISITOR PARKING LOT RIGHT ACROSS THE WAY.

THEY REDID THAT FOR US BACK JUST LAST YEAR, AND THEY ALSO DID THE PRAIRIE TIMBER PARK, SIDEWALK AND DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS IN 22.

TONIGHT, WE'RE ASKING THE COUNCIL TO APPROVE A BID AWARD TO TWO L CONSTRUCTION FOR THE ELLISON STREET PARKING, STREET AND PARKING IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT AND THE AMOUNT OF $2,911,727.40 WITH A PROJECT CONTINGENCY OF 60,000.

I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU ALL MAY HAVE.

NO QUESTIONS, BUT I'D OFFER A COMMENT THAT, I'M PERSONALLY FAMILIAR WITH THE COMPANY AND THEY'RE THEY'RE A GOOD, SOLID COMPANY.

SO THIS IS A GOOD AWARD.

AS THE PROJECT DEVELOPED, WE I ENCOURAGE STAFF TO LOOK AT THE CROSSING THAT'S NOW BEEN EXTENDED TO THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF JOHNSON AVENUE.

AND ACCORDING TO THE DRAWINGS WE'VE BEEN GIVEN HERE UP MAGNOLIA STREET TO CONNECT WITH THE FIRST BAPTIST CHURCH PARKING LOT.

IT MAY OR MAY NOT BE WORTH IT, BUT I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE GET WITH, THE CHURCH TO SEE IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO DEDICATE SOME, MOBILITY IMPAIRED PARKING ALONG THAT, WHAT WOULD BE EASTERN, NORTHEASTERN CORNER OF THAT PARKING LOT THERE? BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A WHEELCHAIR PATH ACCESSIBLE.

AND I BELIEVE VISUALLY LOOKING AT THAT PARKING AREA, ANY ONE OF THOSE SPACES ALONG THE MAGNOLIA STREET FRONTAGE OF THEIR PARKING LOT WOULD MAKE GOOD HANDICAPPED PARKING SPACES. THEY'RE LEVEL ENOUGH TO MEET ADA CODE, I'M PRETTY SURE.

SO I'D ENCOURAGE YOU TO LOOK INTO SEEING IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO RESTRIPE THOSE SPACES SO WE NEVER HAVE ENOUGH HANDICAPPED PARKING.

I KNOW THIS IS A GOOD WAYS AWAY FROM FROM MOST THINGS THAT, WE ALL GO TO, BUT IF A PERSON IS MOBILITY IMPAIRED BUT HAS A SCOOTER, THAT'S NOT THAT BAD.

IT'S A PRETTY GOOD LITTLE DISTANCE.

BUT AT LEAST THERE WOULD BE SOME BETTER PARKING.

AND THEY WOULD PERHAPS HAVE THE ABILITY TO GET THE SCOOTER OUT OF THE VAN AND DO ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT YOU HAVE TO DO TO BE MOBILE THAT WAY.

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WE'VE BEEN LETTING THEM KNOW THIS PROJECT'S COMING.

WE ACTUALLY WILL SEND SOME, SEND EVERYONE SOME EMAILS LETTING THEM KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE UP FOR DISCUSSION TONIGHT, BUT WE'LL REACH OUT TO THEM AGAIN AND LET THEM KNOW THIS IS WHAT'S SHOW THEM SOME MORE PICTURES AND SAY, HEY, IF YOU GUYS WANT TO, THIS IS BE SOMETHING THEY CAN LOOK INTO.

I BELIEVE THAT EVEN IF, IT'S NOT OUR PROPERTY AND I KNOW YOU HAVE RESTRICTIONS ON WHAT YOU CAN SPEND MONEY ON PRIVATE PROPERTY, EVEN IF IT IS HELD BY A CHURCH.

I THINK BECAUSE OF THE AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE WITH THEM FOR THE PARKING SPACES, THAT THAT WOULD BRING IT UNDER OUR UMBRELLA.

SO I FEEL LIKE WE COULD DO THAT ON OUR OWN, PROVIDED THAT THEY AGREE.

SO IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE ASKING THEM TO SPEND MONEY.

OKAY. AND IT WOULDN'T BE A WHOLE LOT ANYWAY.

THANK YOU. GOOD JOB.

ARE WE READY FOR A VOTE? I'LL TAKE A MOTION.

MOVE TO APPROVE. I HAVE A MOTION BY DAN AND A SECOND BY PHIL, WENT BRAIN DEAD BY PHIL.

PLEASE VOTE. PASSES UNANIMOUS.

GOOD JOB. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM SEVEN D.

[7.D.Consider an ordinance altering the Speed Limit along Hemphill Street between NE Alsbury Boulevard and Burleson City Limits from 45 miles per hour to 40 miles per hour; directing the City Manager or designee to erect the appropriate signage; incorporating the recitals into the body of the ordinance; finding and determining that the meeting at which this ordinance is passed is open to the public as required by law; providing a cumulative clause, a severability clause, a savings clause, a penalty clause, and an effective date. (First and Final Reading) (Staff Presenter: Errick Thompson, Director of Public Works & Engineering)]

THIS IS BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL ON FIRST AND FINAL READING.

THE STAFF PRESENTER THIS EVENING IS ERIC THOMPSON, DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS AND ENGINEERING, MR. THOMPSON. THANK YOU, MISS CAMPOS, AND GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

AND TONIGHT WE HAVE BEFORE YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION, A RECOMMENDATION TO REVISE THE SPEED LIMIT ON HEMPHILL.

YOU MAY RECALL THAT COUNCIL RECENTLY, LAST FALL OR FALL OF 22, REVISED THE SPEED LIMIT ON A PORTION ON THIS PORTION OF HEMPHILL THAT'S WITHIN BURLESON.

IN RESPONSE TO SOME ADDITIONAL CONCERNS, THE PUBLIC WORKS AND ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT'S BEEN ASKED LAST FALL TO ENGAGE A PROFESSIONAL TRAFFIC ENGINEER TO BASICALLY STUDY THE, PORTIONS OF THE STREET AGAIN.

SO THE NEXT SEVERAL SLIDES WILL GIVE YOU SOME BACKGROUND AND SHARE THE RESULTS OF THE STUDY AND THE RECOMMENDATION.

SO, HEMPHILL CURRENTLY IS POSTED WITH A 45 MILE PER HOUR SPEED LIMIT, AND THAT'S FROM THE SOUTHERN END AT NORTHEAST ALSBURY TO THE NORTH AT THE BURLESON FORT WORTH CITY LIMIT.

ON ITS NORTHERN END, BEYOND THE CITY LIMIT LINE IN FORT WORTH, HEMPHILL HAS A 40 MILE PER HOUR POSTED SPEED LIMIT, AND IT HAS A SIMILAR RESIDENTIAL CONTEXT. THERE ARE ALWAYS STOP SIGNS AT BOTH THE MCALISTER AND HEMPHILL INTERSECTION, AND THEN A LITTLE TO THE NORTH AT PLUM AND HEMPHILL. SO BY WAY OF A LITTLE BIT OF RECENT HISTORY, THERE WERE SOME SPEEDING CONCERNS RAISED IN 2022 THAT LED TO THE CITY HIRING A CONSULTANT TO STUDY THE STREET.

DATA WAS COLLECTED A LITTLE BIT SOUTH OF WINDRIDGE LANE, SHOWN ON THE MAP THERE.

AND, THE STUDY RESULTED IN AN 85TH PERCENTILE SPEED OF 43MPH.

IN ADDITION, THE BURLESON POLICE DEPARTMENT CONDUCTED A SPEED STUDY IN MAY OF 2022 THAT ALSO RESULTED IN A 40 OR AN 85TH PERCENTILE SPEED OF 43 MILES AN HOUR. IN ADDITION, WELL, AND SO IN OCTOBER 2022, THE CONSULTANT RECOMMENDATIONS WERE PRESENTED AND CITY COUNCIL APPROVED CHANGING THE SPEED LIMIT, TO 45MPH.

IN RESPONSE TO MORE SPEEDING COMPLAINTS, THE BURLESON POLICE DEPARTMENT CONDUCTED ANOTHER SPEED SURVEY IN FEBRUARY, WELL, FEBRUARY AND JULY OF 2023 THAT RESULTED IN 85TH PERCENTILE SPEEDS OF 43MPH IN THAT FEBRUARY STUDY, AND THEN BETWEEN 36 AND 37MPH IN THE JULY SURVEY.

PUBLIC WORKS AND ENGINEERING WAS ASKED AGAIN TO HAVE THE CONSULTANT CONDUCT ANOTHER SPEED STUDY IN OCTOBER OF 2023.

SPECIFICALLY, WE WERE ASKED TO COLLECT DATA BETWEEN PEACH AND PLUM AND THEN BETWEEN PLUM AND AND MCALLISTER.

AT THIS POINT, I LIKE TO PAUSE, A LITTLE BIT JUST TO PROVIDE A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OF WHAT'S IN THE SCOPE OF THE SPEED OR THE TRAFFIC ENGINEERING STUDY THAT'S DONE BY THE CONSULTANT. SO IN ADDITION TO THERE ARE A LOT OF COMMON ELEMENTS TO THE SPEED SURVEY THAT'S DONE BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

BUT IN ADDITION TO WHAT IS DONE BY THE POLICE, THE TRAFFIC ENGINEERING CONSULTANT ALSO, CONSIDERS ITEMS SUCH AS THESE SHOWN

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THEY'RE LOOKING AT LAND USE.

THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE CONTEXT OF THE STREET ITSELF, THE DESIGN OF THE ROADWAY ITSELF.

AND THEN, OF COURSE, THEY'RE ALSO LOOKING AT THE 85TH PERCENTILE SPEEDS.

SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER, AGAIN, THIS IS A PROFESSIONAL THAT WE'VE HIRED WITH THE TRAINING AND EXPERTISE TO ACTUALLY CONSIDER ALL OF THESE FACTORS, PLUS THE DATA TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION.

SO AS A RESULT, THE 85TH PERCENTILE SPEED AND THE RECOMMENDED SPEED DON'T HAVE TO BE THE SAME NUMBER.

THIS IS, COMMON THROUGHOUT THE INDUSTRY THAT THE ENGINEER IS HIRED TO MAKE THIS PROFESSIONAL JUDGMENT BASED ON THE DATA.

SO THE MOST RECENT STUDY RESULTS, RESULTED IN 85TH PERCENTILE SPEEDS IN THE 35 TO 39 MILE PER HOUR RANGE.

AND AGAIN, HEMPHILL IS, GOT A VERY RESIDENTIAL CONTEXT.

AND THEN FOR CONSISTENCY ALONG THE CORRIDOR, THE PROFESSIONAL TRAFFIC ENGINEERING CONSULTANT IS RECOMMENDING THAT THE SPEED LIMIT FOR THE ENTIRE STRETCH FROM NORTHEAST SAULSBURY UP TO THE CITY LIMIT AT THE NORTH, BE 40MPH.

I'VE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE 85TH PERCENTILE SPEED, WELL, SEVERAL TIMES.

SO I WANT TO ALSO POINT OUT THAT.

THAT SPEED IS, IT'S KIND OF THE, IT REPRESENTS THE EXPECTATIONS OF MOST DRIVERS.

SO KEY WORD THERE IS MOST.

AND IT REPRESENTS THE SPEED THAT MOST DRIVERS WOULD FIND COMFORTABLE WHEN DRIVING THAT STRETCH OF ROADWAY.

IT'S, THERE IS NO RULE THAT SAYS THAT THE SPEED LIMIT HAS TO BE THE 85TH PERCENTILE SPEED.

THAT'S PART OF THE REASON WHY THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER CONSIDERS OTHER FACTORS TO TO MAKE HIS RECOMMENDATION.

SO COUNCIL ACTION REQUESTED TONIGHT WOULD BE THAT YOU APPROVE AN ORDINANCE ON FIRST AND FINAL READING THAT WOULD REDUCE THE SPEED LIMIT FROM 45 TO 40 FROM NORTHEAST SAULSBURY ALL THE WAY TO THE CITY LIMIT WITH FORT WORTH ON THE NORTH.

WITH APPROVAL, I ANTICIPATE THAT THE IMPLEMENTATION WOULD OCCUR WITHIN THE NEXT 30 DAYS.

AND THAT WOULD ALSO INCLUDE PROVIDING AMPLE SIGNAGE SO THAT DRIVERS ARE AWARE, AS THEY'RE ENTERING HEMPHILL FROM THE SOUTH OR FROM WITHIN THE LIMITS, IF THEY'RE ALREADY COMING FROM FORT WORTH AND TRAVELING SOUTH, THEY'RE ALREADY IN A 40 MILE PER HOUR SPEED LIMIT, ZONE, SO WE WOULD JUST CONTINUE THAT.

AGAIN, THIS IS TRYING TO ALIGN WITH THE EXISTING SPEED LIMIT IN FORT WORTH, TO THE NORTH, AND ALSO TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE RESIDENTIAL CONTEXT OF HEMPFIELD WITHIN BURLESON, BACKED UP BY THE DATA AND RECOMMENDED BY THE PROFESSIONAL TRAFFIC ENGINEERING CONSULTANT.

WITH THAT, I'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.

ANYBODY? IS THERE A MOTION ON THIS? I HAVE A MOTION BY RONNIE AND A SECOND BY ADAM.

PLEASE VOTE. PASSES UNANIMOUS.

THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM SEVEN E, CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING A RIGHT OF WAY USE AGREEMENT FOR A REMOVABLE METAL CANOPY WITH REMOVABLE DIRECT

[7.E.Consider approval of a resolution authorizing a right-of-way use agreement for a removable metal canopy with removable decorative metal and wood fence and bollards for an existing outdoor seating patio at 112 W. Ellison Street, Old Texas Brewing Company. (Staff Presenter: Tony McIlwain, Development Services Director)]

THE STAFF PRESENTER IS TONY MCELWAIN, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DIRECTOR, MR. MCELWAIN. THANK YOU, MISS COMPOST, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, THIS IS AN ITEM THAT THE STAFF IS BRINGING BACK TO YOU.

FOR CONSIDERATION.

REGARDING THE OLD, TEXAS, BREWING COMPANY, USE OF PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.

JUST BY WAY OF HISTORY WITH THIS PARTICULAR SITE, BACK IN JULY 21ST OF 2015, COUNCIL APPROVED A PILOT PROGRAM WHICH ALLOWED A TABLETOP SEATING WITHIN FOUR PARKING SPACES FOR THIS SUBJECT PROPERTY, APPROXIMATELY 850FT² POTTED PLANTS AND OTHER MATERIALS WERE, ALLOWED AS PART OF A PHYSICAL BARRIER BETWEEN THE PATRONS AND THE DRIVERS.

IT WAS, CONSIDERED AS A MEANS TO EVALUATE POTENTIAL FOR SIMILAR USES IN THE OLD TOWN DISTRICT.

FAST FORWARD TO MARCH 1ST OF 2016, THE CITY DID ISSUE A LETTER AGREEMENT FORMALLY ACCEPTING OTB'S REQUEST FOR A PERPETUAL RIGHT OF WAY USE AGREEMENT, SUBJECT TO THE CITY'S APPROVAL EVERY YEAR.

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CONCRETE PLANNERS NOW OCCUPY THE SITE.

THE OWNER HAS STATED TO STAFF THAT THEY'RE BEGINNING TO DETERIORATE, AND THERE'S TABLE TOP PATIO SEATING WITH UMBRELLAS THAT WE'VE GOT PICTURED TO THE RIGHT OF THE SCREEN.

THE ENTIRE AREA HAS NOT INCREASED BEYOND 850FT².

THAT WAS INITIALLY ALLOWED AND APPROVED BY THE COUNCIL.

WHAT THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING IS THE FOLLOWING.

MR. WADDELL IS LOOKING TO INSTALL A REMOVABLE CANOPY OR A STANDING METAL SEAM ROOF THAT WE'VE CAPTURED IN THE FRONT AND EAST ELEVATIONS.

HE'S LOOKING TO INSTALL A REMOVABLE DECORATIVE METAL AND WOOD FENCE TO REPLACE THE CURRENT PLASTIC FENCE.

THERE'S A GRAPHIC OF THAT AT THE BOTTOM OF THE SCREEN IN FRONT OF YOU.

AND LASTLY, INSTALL REMOVABLE BOLLARDS TO REPLACE THE EXISTING CEMENT PLANTERS.

AND I'LL GO BACK ONE TO SHOW YOU THE LOCATION OF THE EXISTING CEMENT PLANTERS.

AND THEN REMOVABLE BOLLARDS WOULD GO IN PLACE OF THOSE PLANTERS.

THIS SCREEN SHOWS THE CONDITIONS WITHIN THE CURRENT, WELL CONDITIONS WITHIN THE AGREEMENT? FORGIVE ME AND I WILL READ THE BULLET POINTS, BUT BASICALLY WHAT WE COME DOWN TO IS THAT THE APPLICANT SHOULD BEAR ALL COST OF THE MATERIALS AND IMPROVEMENTS TO INCLUDE THE COST OF REPAIR OR REPLACEMENT.

SO THE CITY NEEDS TO GET OUT THERE OR ANY OTHER, PUBLIC FRANCHISE UTILITY PROVIDER NEEDS TO GET OUT THERE TO DO WORK.

THEY'RE NOT SUBJECT TO INCURRING ANY COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH, THE REMOVAL OF THESE ITEMS. THEIR CONDITIONS AS FAR AS PHYSICAL BARRIER BETWEEN THE PATRONS, DEMARCATION OF EXIT PATHWAYS AND SIDEWALKS.

AND THEN THE LIST GOES ON AND ON.

WE DO EXPECT THE APPLICANT TO BE RESPONSIVE TO CONCERNS EXPRESSED BY BUSINESS OWNERS AND PROPERTY OWNERS IN THE OLD TOWN DISTRICT.

SO IN THE EVENT THAT WE GET COMPLAINTS OR THINGS OF THAT NATURE IN-HOUSE WITH STAFF, THAT WOULD TRIGGER US TO GO AND HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE APPLICANT, TO SEE IF THERE ARE ANY ISSUES THAT CAN BE ADDRESSED AMICABLY BETWEEN, BUSINESS OWNERS AS WELL AS ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS.

THE ACTION IS VERY SIMPLE.

THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WERE DISCUSSED IS WHAT IS BEING CONSIDERED BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.

THE STANDING SEAM ROOF, THE BOLLARDS AND THE FENCE REPLACING THE PLASTIC FENCE THAT'S BEING REQUESTED BY MR. WADDELL. YOU OF COURSE, COUNCIL HAVE THE ABILITY TO EITHER APPROVE THE RIGHT OF WAY, USE AGREEMENT, OR DENY IT, ON ITS ENTIRETY.

BASED ON YOUR DECISION MAKING, I DO WANT TO BRING UP TO YOUR ATTENTION THAT, WE WERE ALERTED TO THE FACT THAT THE NAME ON THE APPLICATION REFLECTED THE USE OF THE NAME OF THE ESTABLISHMENT, RATHER THAN WHAT WAS FILED WITH THE OFFICE OF THE SECRETARY OF STATE.

WE REACHED OUT TO MR. WADDELL.

HE DID PROVIDE US WITH THE DOCUMENTATION THAT WE WERE SEEKING, SHOWING THE ACTUAL NAME THAT WE HAVE WITH THE STATE, ALSO WITH THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE.

SO SHOULD YOUR ACTION BE TO APPROVE IT TONIGHT, STAFF WOULD REQUEST THAT MR. WADDELL BRING IN THE PAPERWORK REQUIRED SO THAT WE CAN EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT WITH ALL THE CURRENT FILINGS ON RECORD WITH THE STATE JUST BY WAY OF RECORD AND READING INTO THE RECORD, OLD TEXAS BURLESON BREWING COMPANY, LLC IS WHAT'S ON FILE WITH THE OFFICE OF THE SECRETARY OF STATE.

SO THAT IS THE LEGAL ENTITY THAT THE STATE HAS THIS ENTITY FILED UNDER.

I BELIEVE MR. WADDELL OR HIS AGENT IS IN ATTENDANCE TONIGHT.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE WITH CITY STAFF.

ANYBODY. I DO HAVE A QUESTION, AND IT'S THE BASIS OF MY QUESTION IS THE OTHER PARALLEL, PATIO SEATING CASE THAT WE'VE DEALT WITH AS WE'VE DEALT THROUGH THE PROCESS OF TRYING TO GET ALL THESE RESOLVED.

THE SPICE RACK, WHEN THEY CAME BACK WITH THE PROPOSAL THAT THE COUNCIL VOTED TO APPROVE, GAVE US GOOD DETAILED DESCRIPTIONS OF HOW THE THE PATIO SURFACE, THE COVER POSTS AND EVERYTHING WERE GOING TO BE TREATED.

ON THIS APPLICATION, I SEE NOTHING DIFFERENT ON THE PATIO.

WELL, I GUESS NO, I DON'T SEE ANYTHING DIFFERENT ON THE PATIO FROM THE WAY IT WAS ORIGINALLY SHOWN TO US BEFORE.

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IT DIDN'T LOOK LIKE IT BELONGED THERE, BUT I DON'T SEE ANYTHING IN THIS OTHER THAN THE FENCE.

NOW, THE FENCE LOOKS GOOD HERE, BUT I DON'T SEE ANYTHING SAYING WHAT THE CANOPY IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE OTHER THAN IT'S GOING TO BE METAL.

SO BEFORE I CAN GET BEHIND IT, I'D REALLY LIKE TO KNOW A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHAT THAT PATIO COVER WILL LOOK LIKE.

WHAT SURFACE FINISH ARE WE GOING TO, YOU KNOW, SPICE RACK CLADDED THEIR POLES WITH WOOD.

THE FINAL RESULT OF THAT, I JUST WALKED DOWN AND TAKE A LOOK AND SEE WHAT THAT LOOKED LIKE, LOOKS NICE.

AND THEY PAINTED THE REST OF IT BLACK, INCLUDING THE ROOF, WHICH MADE IT LOOK LIKE IT BELONGED WHERE IT WAS IN BETWEEN RAZZOO'S AND, THE OTHER FACILITIES THAT WE HAVE AROUND.

SO I'M MORE INTERESTED IN KNOWING, THAT WE CAN GET THIS TO LOOK LIKE THAT, BECAUSE IF WE GO OUT HERE AND PUT UP, YOU KNOW, WHITE POLES OR BROWN POLES OR WHATEVER, AND IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE A CARPORT.

SO CAN WE GET ANY INPUT ON THAT? THE ROOF WILL BE BLACK.

ALL THE RAILINGS WILL BE BLACK TO MATCH, AND THEN THE POLES WILL BE CLADDED WITH THE SAME WOOD THAT'S GOING TO GO ACROSS THE TOP OF THE RAILING TO FIT WITH THE OLD TOWN STANDARDS.

OKAY, THEN YOU DON'T MIND MAKING THAT A CONDITION OF.

SURE, THAT'S FINE. I DON'T SEE ANYTHING IN WHAT WE GOT FROM THE CITY THAT SHOWS.. WE CAN DEFINITELY ADD THAT..

WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. DO WE HAVE THE VERBIAGE THAT WE CAN MAKE A MOTION? YEAH. I THINK JUST LIKE SPICE RACK, I THINK WE REQUIRED OR REQUESTED THAT THE STANDING SEAM JUST BE THE BLACK METAL AND NOT PAINTED.

SO JUST THAT'S FINE.

OKAY. THANK YOU I APPRECIATE THAT.

YEAH. THANK YOU. ARE WE READY TO GO? I DON'T WANT TO MAKE A MOTION. I WANT TO HEAR WHAT THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS THINK.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. WE'RE GOOD.

I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

OKAY, THEN I'LL MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE MODIFY AND GIVE US FINISHED TREATMENT.

I DON'T KNOW HOW SPECIFIC I HAVE TO BE, BUT AS STATED BY THE APPLICANT TONIGHT IN THE MEETING, THAT WE'LL DO THE COLORS AND THE CLADDING OF THE POLES AND STUFF, AS THEY'VE SAID, SO..

GOOD DEAL.. WITH THAT, I WILL MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE.

SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION BY DAN AND A SECOND BY PHIL.

PLEASE VOTE. PASS IS UNANIMOUS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU MA'AM.

THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM SEVEN F, CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION SETTING A PUBLIC HEARING TO BE HELD JOINTLY BY THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ON

[Items 7.F. & 7.G.]

THE STAFF PRESENTED THIS EVENING IS TONY MCELWAIN, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DIRECTOR.

MR. MCELWAIN.

THANK YOU AMANDA.

MAYOR AND COUNCIL ITEMS F AND G ARE RELATED REGARDING THE PROPOSED JOINT MEETING THAT WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS WITH YOU.

MR. MCELWAIN, WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO CALL THEM FORWARD BOTH AT THE SAME TIME, OR DO YOU HAVE SEPARATE PRESENTATIONS? I HAVE SEPARATE PRESENTATIONS, THEY'RE SUBSTANTIALLY SIMILAR, SO THAT'S FINE.

MAYOR AND COUNCIL ON JANUARY 8TH, THE CITY RECEIVED A PRESENTATION ON PROPOSED TEXT AMENDMENTS TO THE CITY ZONING ORDINANCE REGARDING LIQUOR/PACKAGE SALES, PACKAGE STORES.

WE PROVIDED THE SAME PRESENTATION TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ON DECEMBER 19TH OF LAST YEAR.

AS YOU KNOW, TO AMEND THE ZONING ORDINANCE, STATE LAW REQUIRES THE CITY HOLD AND GIVE NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARINGS TO SOLICIT FEEDBACK ON ANY PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE CITY'S ZONING REGULATIONS. STAFF IS RECOMMENDING, AS WE DISCUSSED ON JANUARY 8TH, HOLDING A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION OF THE AMENDMENT TO OCCUR AT A JOINT MEETING BETWEEN YOURSELVES AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

UNDER OUR CURRENT CODE, THE CITY'S ZONING ORDINANCE REQUIRES THAT A JOINT MEETING BE CALLED BY A COUNCIL RESOLUTION, WHICH IS BEFORE YOU WITH THIS ITEM.

SO WE ARE GOING TO PRESENT TWO RESOLUTIONS.

THE FIRST RESOLUTION SETS THE DATE OF THE PUBLIC HEARING AND JOINT MEETING.

SECOND RESOLUTION IS TO SET THE NOTIFICATION STANDARD FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING AND JOINT MEETING.

WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO YOU IS TO HAVE A MEETING CALLED FOR MONDAY, MARCH 4TH, 2024.

THE TIME WILL BE 5 P.M.

THE LOCATION HERE IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS, WITH THE SUBJECT BEING AN AMENDMENT, AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE TEXT OF THE CITY ZONING ORDINANCE RELATING TO LIQUOR SALES.

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AT THIS LOCATION.

THE ONLY ITEM ON YOUR AGENDA WOULD BE CONSIDERATION OF THE TEXT AMENDMENT THAT THE STAFF IS GOING TO BRING FORWARD TO YOU.

THE SECOND RESOLUTION.

WELL, THIS EVENING REQUIRES THAT NOTICE OF THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THE JOINT MEETING, AND COUNCIL BE GIVEN BY PUBLISHING NOTICE OF THE DATE TIME MEETING TYPE SUBJECT TO BE CONSIDERED AND LOCATION IN THE NEWSPAPER AT LEAST TWICE.

WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING AS A REVIEW WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IS TO PUBLIC OUR PUBLISH OUR FIRST NOTICE 15 DAYS IN ADVANCE OF THAT MARCH MEETING, WITH A SUBSEQUENT NOTICE TEN DAYS IN ADVANCE OF THE MARCH MEETING TO SATISFY THE NOTICE REQUIREMENTS.

BY SETTING THIS JOINT MEETING, THE LAW ALLOWS THE COUNCIL TO ESTABLISH AND SET ITS NOTIFICATION STANDARDS WITHOUT HAVING TO GO THROUGH THE EFFORT OF MAILING NOTICES TO INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY OWNERS.

WE'RE REQUESTING TONIGHT YOUR CONSIDERATION ON ITEMS SEVEN F AND SEVEN G.

THE FIRST AGAIN TO ESTABLISH THE JOINT.

HEARING AT A ESTABLISHED EXCUSE ME, CONSIDER APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION SETTING THE PUBLIC HEARING IN A JOINT MEETING BETWEEN THE COUNCIL AND P&Z ON MARCH 4TH.

THE SECOND BEING CONSIDERATION OF A RESOLUTION SETTING THE METHOD BY NOTICE, WHICH WOULD BE 15 DAYS AND TEN DAYS PRIOR.

SO THE ACTION THAT WILL BE REQUIRED OF YOU TONIGHT IS A VOTE ON ITEMS 7F, 7G.

JUST BY WAY OF AN EARLY ACTION TONIGHT, WE PRESENTED THE SAME TWO ITEMS TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND A SPECIALLY CALLED MEETING.

THEIR RECOMMENDATION IS FOR APPROVAL OF THE RESOLUTION, TO GO FORWARD WITH THE JOINT MEETING AND ALSO THE NOTIFICATION METHOD AS PRESCRIBED IN THE PRESENTATION.

SO IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS OF ME, OF THE CITY MANAGER, WE CAN ANSWER THOSE WITH REGARD TO THIS MEETING.

MADAM SECRETARY, DO WE NEED TO CALL THESE AS A SEPARATE VOTE? I'M ABOUT TO, YES SIR.

YES.

ANY QUESTIONS. SO FOR CLARIFICATION, I'M GOING TO CALL FORWARD ITEMS SEVEN ITEM 7G2.

SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT, WE MAY HAVE QUESTIONS ON THE METHOD OF, OF NOTIFICATION.

SO SEVEN G IS CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION SETTING THE METHOD BY WHICH NOTICE SHALL BE GIVEN OF THE JOINT PUBLIC HEARING TO BE HELD JOINTLY BY THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ON MARCH 4TH, 2024, TO CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE CITY OF BURLESON ZONING ORDINANCE, CODIFIED IN APPENDIX B OF THE CITY OF BURLESON CODE OF ORDINANCES RELATED TO LIQUOR SALES.

MR. MCELWAIN JUST PRESENTED THIS ITEM.

SO BEFORE YOU COUNCIL, ANY QUESTIONS FOR SEVEN F AND G? WE'RE READY FOR A VOTE, RIGHT? BUT WE NEED TO VOTE ON EACH ITEM SEPARATELY.

OKAY, SO DO I HAVE A MOTION ON 7F? I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE SEVEN F.

OKAY. I HAVE A MOTION BY ADAM.

A SECOND BY VICTORIA. PLEASE VOTE.

PASSES UNANIMOUS.

IS THERE A MOTION ON SEVEN G? SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION BY VICTORIA, SECOND BY ADAM.

PLEASE VOTE. PASSES UNANIMOUS.

I HAVE A COMMENT TO MAKE.

OBVIOUSLY THE PURPOSE OF ITEM 7G TONIGHT WAS TO VOTE TO MEET LEGAL REQUIREMENTS FOR THIS NOTICE, BUT I THINK WE WILL EXPECT THAT OUR STAFF MEMBERS USE OTHER MEANS OF COMMUNICATION TO GET THE FACT OF A PUBLIC HEARING ABOUT THIS, ZONING OUT TO THE COMMUNITY, OTHER THAN AN AD IN THE FORT WORTH STAR TELEGRAM, WHICH DOES TECHNICALLY MEET THE LEGAL REQUIREMENTS.

BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT WHERE, WE'RE GOING TO ALLOW LIQUOR STORES TO BE AND WHAT KINDS OF NEIGHBORHOODS, WHAT KIND OF RESTRICTIONS, THEN I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO BE MADE WELL AWARE OF THAT DISCUSSION.

AND, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US GO BEYOND THE LEGAL REQUIREMENT THERE.

AND, MR. MAYOR PRO TEM, WE HAVE EVERY INTENTION OF PLACING IT ON A CITY'S WEBSITE AS WELL AS THE BULLETIN BOARD IN CITY HALL, AS WE DO WITH ANY OTHER, ZONING CASE.

AND WE'LL TAKE DIRECTION FROM THE CITY MANAGER FOR ANYTHING ADDITIONAL TO THAT.

OF COURSE, TONY, WE'RE SIR, AND I APPRECIATE THE FACEBOOK AND SOCIAL MEDIA AND THE WEBSITE AND STUFF LIKE THAT, BUT WE NEED TO BE MORE PROACTIVE TO GET IT OUT IN FRONT OF PEOPLE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ANSWER IS TO THAT, BUT WE NEED TO KIND OF IF ANYBODY'S GOT ANY IDEAS OF HOW WE CAN GET THIS WORD OUT HERE, MAYBE CONTACT ALL THE POD SHOWS, THE PODCAST AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

BUT WE NEED TO GET PEOPLE TO START TALKING ABOUT WHAT WE DO, WHETHER IT'S AN ELECTION, WHETHER IT'S THIS KIND OF STUFF.

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SINCE WE DON'T HAVE OUR PAPER, WE'RE NOT COMMUNICATING WELL ENOUGH.

I WILL TALK WITH MY COLLEAGUE OVER TO YOUR YOUR LEFT TO GET HER, EXPERT ADVICE ON HOW TO BETTER DO THAT.

THAT'S A BIG ORDER. WE'VE BEEN FIGHTING THIS FOR A LONG TIME, SO I APPRECIATE THE EFFORT.

YES, SIR. TO ECHO TONY'S SENTIMENT, DEANNA AND I WILL WORK TOGETHER.

WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THE WORD OUT, I KNOW.

THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

THAT BRINGS US TO SECTION EIGHT REPORTS AND PRESENTATIONS.

[8.A.Hold a discussion and receive a report regarding the Burleson Public Library master plan and facility study. (Staff Presenter: DeAnna Phillips, Community Services Director)]

THE STAFF PRESENTER THIS EVENING IS DEANNA PHILLIPS, COMMUNITY SERVICES DIRECTOR.

MISS PHILLIPS, WELCOME.

THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

AND BEFORE WE JUMP INTO THE PRESENTATION, I DO WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO RECOGNIZE SEVERAL MEMBERS THAT WE HAVE HERE.

WE HAVE SEVERAL REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARY HERE, HERE.

YOU GUYS WILL JUST WAVE AND LET THEM KNOW.

AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE SEVERAL LIBRARY BOARD MEMBERS HERE, INCLUDING DAN MCLAIN, TONY WING JENKINS, AND JOAN COBREROS.

I HOPE I DIDN'T BUTCHER THAT, JOAN.

AND WE ALSO HAVE A FORMER LIBRARY DIRECTOR, BETH LITNER IS HERE WITH US TODAY, AND I DO WANT TO TAKE A SPECIAL MOMENT AND RECOGNIZE SOME OF OUR LIBRARY STAFF THAT ARE HERE.

THE DEPUTY DIRECTOR, SARAH MILLER, IS HERE, AND OUR ONE OF OUR YOUTH LIBRARY SPECIALIST LIBRARIANS AND WENDY ALVEY ARE HERE AS WELL.

AND THEY'RE MORTIFIED THAT I'M ANNOUNCING THEM.

BUT THEY DO SUCH A GREAT JOB.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY GET RECOGNITION AS WELL.

SO I WANT TO TAKE A MINUTE AND TALK ABOUT THE BACKGROUND AND KIND OF WHY WHY WE'RE PRESENTING THIS TO YOU TONIGHT.

SO, IF YOU DON'T KNOW, THIS LIBRARY WHERE IT SITS TODAY WAS OPENED IN 1996, AND AT THAT TIME BURLESON HAD A POPULATION OF 19,500 PEOPLE, AND THIS LIBRARY SERVED THAT POPULATION.

IN 2020, THE LIBRARY BECAME UNDER COMMUNITY SERVICES WHICH WAS A NEWLY FOUNDED DEPARTMENT.

AND AT THAT TIME, WE REALLY DECIDED TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT THE LIBRARY'S PLAN WAS, WHAT THE FUTURE WAS FOR THE LIBRARY.

SO SARAH AND I SAT DOWN AND WE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS, AND ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS WE DECIDED TO DO WAS PUT TOGETHER A STRATEGIC PLAN FOR THE LIBRARY.

IN THAT STRATEGIC PLAN, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS POINTED OUT WAS THE LIBRARY DID NOT HAVE A MASTER PLAN OR A FEASIBILITY STUDY.

AND TO BE QUITE HONEST, WE'RE WE'RE SEVERAL YEARS BEHIND ON GETTING A MASTER PLAN FOR THE LIBRARY.

I KNOW YOU ALL HAVE BEEN PRESENTED WITH MULTIPLE MASTER PLANS FROM POLICE AND FIRE AND PUBLIC WORKS AND PARKS AND RECREATION.

SO THE LIBRARY HASN'T GONE THROUGH THAT, THAT, THAT PLAN YET.

SO WE'VE STARTED THAT PROCESS.

YOU'LL HEAR FROM OUR CONSULTING FIRM, 720 DESIGNS, AND THEY'LL TALK A LOT ABOUT WHAT'S THE STANDARD FOR LIBRARIES WITH THE AMERICAN LIBRARY ASSOCIATION, WHAT'S THE STANDARD FOR TEXAS LIBRARIES? AND OUR LIBRARY ACTUALLY WENT OUT OF THE AMERICAN LIBRARY ASSOCIATION STANDARD AND BELOW THE TEXAS PER CAPITA STANDARD IN 2006.

SO WE'VE BEEN A LITTLE BIT BEHIND SINCE THEN.

SO WE WANTED TO START WITH, WITH PUTTING THAT TOGETHER A MASTER PLAN.

SO WE DID PUT THAT IN THE CITY STRATEGIC PLAN IN 2022.

AND IT'S BEEN IN THE STRATEGIC PLAN FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS.

DURING COUNCIL'S RETREAT IN 2021, THE 2021, THEY DID RECOGNIZE THAT HAVING THIS MASTER PLAN COMPLETE, IT WAS A TOP PRIORITY FOR THE CITY AT THE TIME.

IN 2022, WE DID AN RFP AND WE SELECTED 720 DESIGNS TO COMPLETE THIS PROCESS WITH US.

PHASE ONE BEGAN IN 2022, AND THAT CONSISTED OF PUBLIC OUTREACH.

AND THEN IN 2023, WE REALLY WENT INTO KIND OF WHAT THE LIBRARY WOULD LOOK LIKE.

SO THAT'S KIND OF WHY WE'RE HERE TONIGHT AND WHY THIS IS IN FRONT OF YOU.

AS YOU ALL KNOW, THE CITY IS GOING THROUGH MASTER PLANNING IN A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT AREAS AND A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT CITY FACILITIES.

SO THIS IS ONE COMPONENT OF THAT.

SO I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO 720 DESIGNS NOW.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU DEANNA.

THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL FOR HAVING US HERE TODAY.

WE'RE EXCITED TO SHARE WITH YOU THE LAST TWO YEARS OF WORK ON THE LIBRARY STRATEGIC PLAN.

HOW DO I. YOU JUST CLICK.

WE HAVE SEVERAL SECTIONS TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT.

THE FIRST BEING THE INTRODUCTION OF OUR TEAM.

720 DESIGN.

720 IS THE DEWEY DECIMAL NUMBER FOR ARCHITECTURE.

SO WE FOCUS ON LIBRARIES NOT JUST IN TEXAS BUT ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

WE'VE DONE ABOUT 350 OF THEM.

WE'LL TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE MASTER PLAN FINDINGS, THE DATA THAT WE GATHERED FROM BOTH THE COMMUNITY AND THE LIBRARY, AND THEN SHARE WITH YOU THE VISIONING AND GOALS AND THE CONCEPTUAL DESIGNS.

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MY NAME IS MAUREEN ARNDT.

I'M THE FOUNDING PRINCIPAL OF 720.

WITH ME IS MIA OVCINA, WHO IS THE PROJECT MANAGER FOR THE CONCEPTUAL DESIGN PORTION OF THE PROJECT.

WHEN WE BEGAN IN YEAR ONE OF THE PROCESS IN 2022, WE RESEARCHED THE HISTORY OF THE LIBRARY THAT DEANNA TALKED ABOUT.

WE DID DISCOVERY TOURS ALL ACROSS NORTH TEXAS, LOOKING AT LESSONS LEARNED FROM OTHER LIBRARIES.

WHAT ARE THE TRENDS? WHAT ARE THE POSSIBILITIES? WHAT MAKES SENSE FOR THE CITY OF BURLESON? WE LOOKED AT YOUR EXISTING FACILITY AND HOW IT'S BEING USED, AND WE GATHERED COMMUNITY INPUT.

THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF THE PROCESS, OVER 450 PEOPLE PARTICIPATED IN THE PROCESS, BOTH ONLINE AND IN PERSON.

MOST OF THOSE WERE LIBRARY CARD HOLDERS, AND WE ASKED THEM QUESTIONS ABOUT WHY THEY USE THE LIBRARY, WHY THEY DON'T USE THE LIBRARY, WHAT THEY WANTED TO SEE IN A LIBRARY FOR THE CITY OF BURLESON, BUT ALSO HOW THEY WANTED SERVICES DELIVERED.

AND WE ASKED THE QUESTION ABOUT DO YOU WANT BRANCHES CLOSE TO YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, OR DO YOU PREFER ONE LOCATION THAT IS ONE LARGE FULL SERVICE PROJECT? AND BY FAR 76% SAID THEY DESIRED ONE LOCATION THAT THEY COULD GO AND GET EVERYTHING THAT THEY NEEDED.

SOME OF THE REASONS THAT THEY GAVE FOR NOT USING THE LIBRARY.

LACK OF TIME. THAT'S A HARD ONE FOR OUR LIBRARY SPACE TO OVERCOME.

THEY USE THE INTERNET, AND SOMETIMES THAT IS AT THE LIBRARY, AND THEY USE DIGITAL MATERIALS, WHICH IS A WAY FOR LIBRARIES TO EXPAND THEIR PRESENCE WITHOUT A PHYSICAL EXPANSION. BUT THE BIG THING WAS THAT THE LIBRARY DOESN'T HAVE WHAT THEY NEED.

AND AS WE DIG FURTHER INTO THIS COMMENT, IT HAS MORE TO DO WITH BEING ABLE HAVING THE SPACE TO PROVIDE WHAT PEOPLE NEED, THEN HOW HARD THE LIBRARY STAFF WORKS, WHICH TURNS OUT TO BE REALLY HARD.

THE TOP REQUESTED SERVICES ARE IN THE GREEN BOX IN RANKING ORDER.

FROM WHAT THE COMMUNITY SAID, QUIET READING AREA BEING NUMBER ONE BECAUSE YOU'RE BUILDING IS SO SMALL, IT'S HARD TO FIND A QUIET SPACE.

A MULTIPURPOSE ROOMS WERE REALLY HIGH, AND SPECIALTY SPACES LIKE TEEN SPACES AND STEAM AND STEM LEARNING AREAS.

AS WE LOOKED AT THE BENCHMARKS FOR YOUR PEER LIBRARIES, IT STOOD OUT THAT YOU HAVE THE LOWEST NUMBER OF BOOKS PER CAPITA.

YOU HAVE THE LOWEST NUMBER OF LIBRARY SQUARE FOOTAGE PER CAPITA, BUT YOU HAVE THE SECOND HIGHEST LIBRARY VISITS PER CAPITA.

YOUR COMMUNITY USES THE LIBRARY LIKE CRAZY.

1 IN 4 HOUSEHOLDS HAVE A LIBRARY CARD AND THEY ARE THERE ALL OF THE TIME.

I'M. DEANNA TALKED ABOUT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE PER CAPITA STANDARDS AND LOOKING AT WHERE YOU ARE NOW.

TODAY YOU'RE AT 0.33FT² PER CAPITA, WHICH IS BELOW THE TEXAS AVERAGE, AND ALL AMERICAN LIBRARY ASSOCIATION REQUIREMENTS.

IF YOU DO NOTHING THROUGH BUILD OUT, YOU'LL BE AT 0.16FT² PER CAPITA.

SO AS A RESULT OF WHAT WE LOOKED AT WITH THE DATA, THE BENCHMARKING AND THE COMMUNITY, WE'VE COME UP WITH A LIBRARY FOR THE CITY OF BURLESON THAT IS ABOUT 60,000FT², THAT WILL MEET YOUR NEEDS THROUGH BUILD OUT.

AND WHAT'S HIGHLIGHTED IN THE CHART IS THAT THAT 60,000FT² WOULD EXCEED THE EXEMPLARY LEVEL OF LIBRARY SQUARE FOOTAGE TODAY, AND STILL MEET THE STANDARD LIBRARY SQUARE FOOTAGE INTO THE FUTURE.

AND THIS IS THE SUMMARY OF THOSE SPACES THAT WOULD BE INCLUDED.

AND WE'LL GET MORE INTO THAT FURTHER INTO THE PRESENTATION.

IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN OVER TO THE LIBRARY IN A LITTLE WHILE, THIS IS WHAT THE LIBRARY LOOKS LIKE.

THE BIRDHOUSE READING AREAS ARE A VERY POPULAR FEATURE.

YOU'VE GOT SOME GREAT MURALS THAT LOCAL ARTISTS HAVE INSTALLED IN THE LIBRARY, AND THE LIBRARY HAS WORKING AT MAKING THE SPACE AS EFFICIENT AS POSSIBLE MOVING FORWARD, INCLUDING REPLACING STAFF FURNITURE THAT YOU ALL APPROVED AND SOME OF THE PUBLIC FURNITURE AS WELL.

SO ONCE WE GOT THROUGH THE THE INITIAL MASTER PLAN RESEARCH PORTION OF THE YEAR, ONE PART OF THE PROJECT WE MOVED INTO KIND OF WHAT IS THE LIBRARY ACTUALLY LOOK LIKE AND WHAT IS IT? SO WE SPENT THIS LAST YEAR.

WE SPENT TIME TALKING TO STAFF, TO THE LIBRARY TEAM AND TO DEANNA ABOUT, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT KINDS OF LIBRARY SPACES AND WHAT WHAT THOSE LOOK LIKE IN TODAY'S LIBRARY. RIGHT.

WHICH IS VERY DIFFERENT FROM WHAT YOU JUST SAW IN THE EXISTING PHOTOS.

SO THIS IS JUST KIND OF A COLLECTION OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF SPACES.

AND WE FLAGGED WHAT SHOWED UP IN THE ONLINE SURVEY AS BEING IMPORTANT TO PEOPLE.

A LOT OF THESE THINGS WERE FLAGGED AS IMPORTANT.

SO QUIET READING SPACES AND HAVING COMMUNITY MEETING SPACES, HAVING OUTDOOR READING AREAS, THIS IS KIND OF JUST BIG PICTURE LIBRARY

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SO FROM CHILDREN'S ACTIVITY SPACES TO TEEN GATHERING SPACES, HAVING A REALLY GOOD MULTI-PURPOSE MEETING ROOM, BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOUR COMMUNITY DOESN'T REALLY HAVE ACCESS TO AT THE LIBRARY RIGHT NOW.

AND A MUCH LARGER ONE, WHICH CAN BE USED FOR MANY DIFFERENT THINGS, ALL THE WAY TO LIKE INDIVIDUAL SIZE, LIKE SMALLER SCALE MEETING SPACES, STUDY ROOMS AND MAKER SPACES, EVEN. WE ALSO KIND OF STARTED TO LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, WHAT DOES IT ACTUALLY LOOK LIKE IN TERMS OF ESTHETICS ON THE INTERIOR? SO THINKING ABOUT FINISHES AND WE TALKED ABOUT IT REALLY WANTING TO BE A BUILDING THAT THAT STAYS RELEVANT.

AND SO STICKING WITH A NEUTRAL AND NATURAL PALETTE THAT THAT, THAT IS PRETTY, THAT WILL STAY CONTEMPORARY THROUGHOUT.

AND THEN THINKING ABOUT THE CHILDREN'S SPACES, BECAUSE THEY'RE A LARGE PART OF THE LIBRARY AND THINKING ABOUT HOW THOSE WOULD WANT TO HAVE A SIMILAR PALETTE, BUT, BRING IN A LOT OF BRIGHTER COLORS AND THINGS LIKE THAT TO BRING IN SOME EXCITEMENT.

WE TALKED ABOUT THE OUTDOORS ALSO, BOTH IN TERMS OF THE SERVICES THAT ARE PROVIDED OUTDOORS, BECAUSE THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT CAME UP IN THE ONLINE SURVEY, AND THAT WE'RE SEEING A LOT IN TERMS OF JUST GENERAL ACROSS THE STATE, PEOPLE LIKE TO HAVE OUTDOOR SPACES ASSOCIATED WITH THEIR LIBRARIES.

SO SEEING OPPORTUNITIES FOR OUTDOOR LEARNING LIKE SUCH AS AN OUTDOOR AMPHITHEATER, JUST HAVING SHADED READING AREAS, THAT KIND OF THING, AND THEN ALSO HAVING LIKE INTERACTIVES FOR CHILDREN WHERE YOU HAVE, OUTDOOR LEARNING OPPORTUNITIES AS WELL AS INDOOR ONES.

AND THEN THE BOTTOM RIGHT IMAGE, HAVING A BOOK DROP AND SERVICE WINDOW THAT JUST REALLY HELPS WITH ACCESSIBILITY TO LIBRARY SERVICES FOR PEOPLE WHO MAY NOT NECESSARILY HAVE THE TIME OR ABILITY TO GO INSIDE.

SO, AND AS PART OF THAT CONVERSATION, WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT WHAT DOES THIS BUILDING ACTUALLY WANT TO LOOK LIKE? SO THESE ARE A COUPLE OF IMAGES THAT WE LOOKED AT WITH, WITH THE TEAM, TALKING ABOUT.

WE HEARD A LOT THAT YOU GUYS ARE VERY PROUD OF YOUR COMMUNITY.

AND, JUST TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THAT BURLESON ESTHETIC? IS IT LIKE THE BRICK AND THE KIND OF TRANSITIONAL, REFERENTIAL TO HISTORICAL MATERIALS, BUT ALSO KIND OF A LITTLE BIT MORE MODERN, OR DOES THE BUILDING WANT TO BE SOMETHING THAT'S MUCH MORE MODERN AND CLEAN AND ICONIC AND CIVIC, YOU KNOW, SO KIND OF JUST DISCUSS THAT WHOLE RANGE OF POSSIBILITIES.

FROM THERE, WE ALSO LOOKED AT A POTENTIAL SITE FOR THE PROJECT.

THIS WAS VERY MUCH A POTENTIAL SITE, SO IT WAS JUST SOMETHING WE STUDIED.

BUT IT WAS THE THE SITE THAT THE CITY OWNS OUT BY ALSBURY AND HASLETT.

AND SO WE WERE ASKED TO STUDY IT BECAUSE YOU GUYS ALREADY OWN IT.

BECAUSE IT'S A LARGE SITE, THIS IS A BIG BUILDING.

60,000FT² IS QUITE LARGE, AND IT REQUIRES ANOTHER 200 TO 300 PARKING SPACES TO MAKE THE BUILDING WORK.

SO AND THIS SITE HAD ALREADY BEEN STUDIED AS A POTENTIAL LIBRARY LOCATION.

WE LIKED ABOUT IT THAT IT HAD, IT'S AN UNDEVELOPED SITE AND IT HAS A, IT HAS A REALLY NICE NATURAL POTENTIAL.

ALSO THERE IT LOOKS LIKE ECHOING THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY OR THAT WERE EXPRESSED IN THE SURVEYS.

IT HAS THE POTENTIAL TO REALLY HAVE A REALLY NICE OUTDOOR SPACE ASSOCIATED WITH IT BECAUSE IT'S IT'S VERY NATURAL, BEAUTIFUL LAND RIGHT NOW.

SO WE STARTED DEVELOPING THE, THE PLAN OF THE BUILDING JUST TO SEE HOW THAT WOULD LAY OUT.

AND AGAIN, THIS IS CONCEPTUAL, BUT JUST SHOWING, WITH THE SPACES THAT WE DISCUSSED, YOU WOULD GENERALLY HAVE A CENTRAL ENTRY LOBBY AND THEN YOU WOULD HAVE TWO WINGS TO THE BUILDING. SO YOUR LIBRARY SERVICES WOULD BE IN ONE WING.

AND THEN ALL OF YOUR COMMUNITY MEETING SPACES WOULD BE IN ANOTHER WING.

THE PURPOSE OF THAT IS TO BE ABLE TO, TO BE ABLE TO PARTITION THE BUILDING.

SO AFTER HOURS YOU CAN CLOSE DOWN THE LIBRARY, BUT KEEP YOUR MEETING SPACES OPEN IF YOU WANT TO HAVE COMMUNITY EVENTS THAT RUN, YOU KNOW, UNTIL LATE INTO THE NIGHT.

WE BECAUSE OF THE SITE THAT WE WERE ASKED TO LOOK AT, WE DID ASSUME THAT THERE WAS A PARK COMPONENT THAT WOULD BE CLOSE TO THE LIBRARY.

SO LOOKING AT ONE SIDE OF THE BUILDING, YOU KIND OF PARK AND ENTER INTO THE CENTRAL LARGE LOBBY.

AND THEN ON THE OTHER SIDE, THE LOBBY ENGAGES WITH THE PARK.

SO THAT WAS KIND OF WHAT WE WERE THINKING ABOUT IN TERMS OF DEVELOPING IT, BUT NOT NECESSARILY WHAT HAS TO HAPPEN.

SO AND THEN ZOOMING IN A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAILED, WE RAN TEST FITS FOR FURNITURE AND JUST THE SPACES.

SO ON THE GROUND FLOOR GETTING A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAILED WITH THAT, YOU WALK INTO THAT CENTRAL LOBBY AND TO YOUR LEFT ARE ALL THE MEETING SPACES.

TO THE RIGHT WE DISCUSSED IT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT TO HAVE CHILDREN'S SPACES ON THE GROUND FLOOR SO THAT THEY COULD POTENTIALLY, EVEN WHEN THE WEATHER IS GOOD, SPILL OUT INTO THAT

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SO THAT WAS KIND OF A THING.

AND THEN WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT HAVING STAFF FACING PARKING, BOTH FOR THAT, BOTH TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT BOOK DROP OPPORTUNITY, AND ALSO TO PROVIDE KIND OF A PROTECTIVE BARRIER BETWEEN LIKE THE CAR LINE AND, AND WHERE PATRONS GENERALLY ARE.

AND THEN ON THE SECOND FLOOR, WE DISCUSSED THIS AS MORE OF A, AS MORE OF A QUIET AND RESTRAINED ADULT FLOOR, BECAUSE THE CHILDREN'S AREAS DO TEND TO GET NOISY, AS YOU GUYS KNOW FROM YOUR CURRENT LIBRARY.

SO TALKING, LOOKING AT HAVING AGAIN, YOU COME UP THE MAIN LOBBY STAIRS AND TO YOUR LEFT ARE KIND OF ARE ANOTHER SUBSEQUENCE OF COMMUNITY MEETING TYPE SPACES AND CLASSROOMS. AND THEN TO YOUR RIGHT YOU HAVE ADULT STACKS AND, AND ANOTHER SET OF STAFF ON THAT SOUTH END.

WE ALSO HEARD THAT HAVING A READING BALCONY WAS REALLY IMPORTANT.

SO THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE, LOOKED AT AND WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE REALLY NICE TO HAVE A BALCONY THAT OVERLOOKS THIS, THIS PROPOSED PARK.

SO FROM THERE, JUST SOME IMAGES SHOWING WHAT THOSE KIND OF SPACES COULD LOOK LIKE.

SO THIS IS THE LOBBY.

AND WE WERE THINKING ABOUT IT AS A TWO STORY SPACE THAT THE LOBBY IN ITSELF IS A COMMUNITY MEETING SPACE, RIGHT? IT'S YOUR IT'S YOUR LIVING ROOM.

FOR THE COMMUNITY WHERE PEOPLE COME, THEY STOP, THEY TOUCH DOWN WHILE THEY'RE WAITING FOR TO MEET A FRIEND BEFORE THEY GO INTO THE LIBRARY, BEFORE THEY GO TO AN EVENT.

AND THE IDEA OF THAT BEING ABLE TO BE PROGRAMED FOR COMMUNITY EVENTS, WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS DISCUSSED.

JUST A TYPICAL KIND OF VIEW OF THE ADULT READING AREA.

WE DISCUSSED AGAIN, I MENTIONED THAT CONNECTION TO THE OUTDOORS.

SO HAVING LIKE AN OUTDOOR READING TERRACE, HAVING JUST A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT KINDS OF SEATING AND STUDY ROOMS IN THE BACK, ALSO THAT KIND OF FACE, THAT NATURAL ELEMENT.

AND THEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE SO THE MULTI-PURPOSE MEETING ROOM I THINK WAS A.

THIS IS KIND OF THE THING THAT PEOPLE GET REALLY EXCITED ABOUT BECAUSE OF.

IT JUST GIVES YOU GUYS THE OPPORTUNITY TO HOST SO MANY MORE COMMUNITY MEETINGS AND EVENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

WE TALKED ABOUT IT BEING A SUBDIVIDABLE ROOM SO THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TWO DIFFERENT YOU COULD YOU COULD SET IT UP AS TWO DIFFERENT EVENTS, OR YOU COULD HAVE ONE LARGER ROOM HAVING ACCESS TO NATURAL LIGHT.

AS WELL AS SOMETHING WE HEARD THAT WAS REALLY THAT'S BEEN COMING UP RECENTLY, THAT'S REALLY FUN IS AN INTEREST IN HAVING A TEACH A MOBILE TEACHING KITCHEN SO YOU CAN ROLL OUT A KITCHEN AND TEACH PEOPLE HOW TO DO DIFFERENT, COOKING TYPE THINGS.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THIS ROOM HAS SPACE FOR AS WELL.

AND THEN THE CHILDREN'S AREA JUST SHOWING SOMETHING THAT'S A LOT MORE FUN, A LOT, A LOT BRIGHTER, WITH A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY FOR PLAY AND INTERACTIVES AND THAT KIND OF STUFF.

EARLY LITERACY AND INTERACTIVES REALLY TIE TOGETHER AND PLAY WELL.

SO IT'S A, IT'S A GREAT FEATURE FOR THE COMMUNITY TO HAVE.

AND THEN LASTLY, BACK TO THE SO WE KIND OF STUDIED A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT LOOKS.

THIS IS JUST A VERY EARLY MASSING SKETCH, BUT WE STUDIED A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT LOOKS OF I SHOWED YOU GUYS EARLIER IN THE VISIONING, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT TYPES OF ESTHETICS.

AND IN TALKING TO THE LIBRARY GROUP, IT WAS THEY LIKED ALL THE OPTIONS.

SO WE WERE LIKE, WE'LL JUST SHOW YOU GUYS ALL OF THEM.

SO WE HAVE, WE HAVE ONE OPTION THAT WE DEVELOP THAT WAS KIND OF MORE OF A REGIONAL RUSTIC, THE, THE BURLESON ESTHETIC, IF YOU WILL. KIND OF THINKING ABOUT HAVING IT BE BRICK, HAVING SOME OF THOSE METAL ACCENTS.

STILL, THE LOBBY IS A JEWEL BOX THAT'S MORE OF A GLASSY THING THAT CONNECTS THE BUILDING, BUT THINKING ABOUT IT MORE LIKE A BURLESON Y VIBE.

AND THEN WE LOOKED AT AN OPTION THAT WAS MORE WHAT WE CALL ICONIC AND CIVIC.

SO SOMETHING THAT REALLY RESONATES.

AS YOU KNOW, THIS IS VERY MUCH A PUBLIC BUILDING.

IT LOOKS LIKE LIKE YOU SEE IT FROM A DISTANCE AND YOU KNOW THAT IT'S A, YOU KNOW THAT IT'S IT'S GOING TO BE IT'S GOING TO BE SOME SORT OF CITY FUNCTION.

SO THAT WAS KIND OF THE IDEA THERE.

AND THEN HAVING THE BACK OF THE BUILDING THAT OPENS OUT ONTO THE NATURAL FEATURE BE MORE, MUCH MORE GLASSY AND OPEN.

SO YOU HAVE THESE SWEEPING VIEWS.

WHICH COULD BE REALLY AWESOME.

AND THEN WE LOOKED AT AN OPTION THAT WAS MORE BOLD AND PLAYFUL, SO KIND OF USING COLOR AND DYNAMIC FACADE ELEMENTS TO KIND OF SUGGEST THE VARIETY AND OF, OF ACTIVITIES THAT ARE HAPPENING INSIDE.

AND THE JUST THE YEAH, THE ALL THE COOL THINGS THAT HAPPEN INSIDE A LIBRARY, REALLY.

SO THERE YOU GO.

THANK YOU. SO THE NEXT QUESTION THAT WAS ASKED WAS WHAT WILL THIS COST? AND SO WE'VE PULLED FROM OUR DATABASE OF RECENT LIBRARY PROJECTS.

AND YOU SEE THOSE ON THE RIGHT OF PROJECTS THAT HAVE RECENTLY BID IN TEXAS AND USE THAT AS A BASIS FOR OUR ROUGH ORDER OF MAGNITUDE, COST FOR THE TOTAL PROJECT.

SO THE SUMMARY OF CROSS FOR 2024 IS A TOTAL PROJECT COST.

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AND IT COMES TO ABOUT $52 MILLION.

WHAT WE'RE HEARING FROM OUR CONTRACTOR PARTNERS ON THOSE PROJECTS IS THAT ESCALATION HAS SLOWED BUT HAS NOT GONE AWAY, AND WHAT THEY'RE TELLING US TO BUDGET FOR IS ABOUT 6% PER YEAR.

AND SO LOOKING AT THE NEXT SIX YEARS, YOU CAN SEE WHAT ESCALATION, HOW IT AFFECTS THE TOTAL PROJECT COST MOVING FORWARD.

NOW, THIS PROJECT, POTENTIALLY IF IT'S ON THE SITE THAT WE INITIALLY EXPLORED, COULD HAVE A LOT OF SITE WORK AS WELL.

AND THAT'S NOT INCLUDED IN THIS, THE UTILITIES AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO MAKE THE PROJECT BUILDABLE.

IN TERMS OF A CONCEPTUAL PROJECT SCHEDULE, WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT 42 MONTHS OF TOTAL TIME TO DESIGN, DOCUMENT, BID AND DELIVER THE PROJECT.

SO THAT'S FROM DESIGN KICKOFF TO CONSTRUCTION.

AND WE DO UNDERSTAND THAT THIS PROJECT IS NOT CURRENTLY IN THE CITY'S FIVE YEAR CAPITAL PLAN.

AND WITH THAT FULL CIRCLE, BACK TO THE EXTERIOR IMAGES FOR COMMENT AND QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON ANYTHING THAT WE PRESENTED TONIGHT.

I LIKE WHAT YOU'VE DONE HERE.

I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT WE'RE KIND OF GETTING AHEAD OF HERSELF A LITTLE BIT.

AND THE FACT THAT WE'VE GOT OTHER NEEDS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND IS HOW COULD WE WHAT TOWNS INCORPORATE THEIR LIBRARY INTO A CITY HALL OR MAYBE PUBLIC WORKS AND THAT'S THAT. DO YOU HAVE ANY INFORMATION ON THAT? HOW DOES THAT TIE TOGETHER? I LIKE THE MEETING ROOM, BUT THAT COULD BE A MULTI PURPOSE BETWEEN CITY HALL AND THE LIBRARY.

YOU KNOW SHARE A LITTLE BIT OF COST.

SO YOU'RE THROWING A NUMBER AT US.

WE DON'T KNOW WHERE WE'RE GOING TO PUT IT.

WE DON'T KNOW THE ROAD STRUCTURE AND THAT STUFF LIKE THAT.

YOU'RE JUST BUILDING A BUILDING.

HOW MUCH IT'S GOING TO COST FOR THE TO GET THE ROADS THERE AND STUFF OF THAT NATURE.

YES. THAT'S TRUE.

THAT'S A REALLY GREAT QUESTION, MR. MAYOR. WE'RE ACTUALLY WORKING ON A PROJECT WITH THE CITY OF CELINA RIGHT NOW.

WE'RE HELPING THEM BUILD A COMBINATION LIBRARY, CITY HALL PROJECT THAT WILL BE A COMBINED PROJECT FOR THE NEXT TEN YEARS.

CITY HALL WILL MOVE OUT, AND THE LIBRARY WILL MOVE INTO THE REST OF THE BUILDING IN TEN YEARS.

AND SO THERE ARE SOME CREATIVE OPTIONS FOR LOOKING AT PROCESSES LIKE THAT THAT COMBINE CITY NEEDS TOGETHER, BUT STILL ALLOW EACH TO GROW.

OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING? I'VE GOT A COMMENT OR TWO.

GET IT? IT WAS SAID THAT 76% OF THE CITIZENS IN THE SURVEY DESIRE ONE LOCATION.

WHICH LOCATION WOULD THAT BE? THE OLD ONE OR THE NEW ONE? WE DIDN'T ASK THEM THAT PART.

OKAY. COUNCILMAN WE DID ASK IN GENERAL, WOULD YOU LIKE MORE SMALLER LIBRARIES LOCATED CLOSER TO EACH OF YOUR COMMUNITIES AND NEIGHBORHOODS OR ONE LARGE LOCATION? BUT WE DID NOT GIVE THEM A SPECIFIC LOCATION TO COMMENT ON.

WELL, I KNOW RIGHT NOW THE THE CITY HASN'T GROWN OUT WEST.

I MEAN, IT'S STILL PART OF THE ETJ.

SO THE POLLING WOULD COME FROM THE OTHER SIDE OF THE CITY, WHICH IS THE CURRENT SIDE OF THE CITY, WHICH IS BY THE NEW LIBRARY.

SO IT WOULD CONCERN ME IF THEY WOULD WANT ONE LIBRARY AND HAVE TO DRIVE ALL THE WAY ACROSS TOWN.

SO I WOULD ASSUME IT WOULD BE THE OLD LIBRARY.

WHY DID THEY WANT ONE INSTEAD OF TWO? BECAUSE WHEN YOU DO BRANCHES OR MORE CONVENIENT FOR CERTAIN THINGS.

SO BUT THERE'S A DUPLICATION OF STAFF AND THERE'S A DUPLICATION OF MATERIALS, BUT YOU ALSO CAN'T DO EVERYTHING AT EVERY LOCATION.

SO THEY MIGHT STILL HAVE TO DRIVE ACROSS TOWN TO GET TO A MAKERSPACE, FOR EXAMPLE, OR THE STORY TIME THAT THEY'D LIKE TO GO TO.

AND SO WHAT I THINK THEY WERE THINKING WAS AT ONE LOCATION, THEIR WHOLE FAMILY COULD FIND WHAT THEY WANTED TO DO AT A SINGLE LOCATION, AND THAT WAS MORE IMPORTANT THAN BEING ABLE TO WALK OR RIDE THEIR BIKE TO IT.

OKAY, WITH TWO LOCATIONS, THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO RIDE ACROSS TOWN FOR EVERYTHING THEY WANTED TO DO.

SOME OF IT WOULD BE CLOSE, SO THAT WOULD REDUCE THEIR DRIVE TIME.

IS THE PARKING LOT INCLUDED IN ANY OF THIS OR JUST THE ARCHITECTURAL STRUCTURE OF THE BUILDING? THE PARKING LOT FOR THE LIBRARY REQUIRED PARKING IS INCLUDED.

INCLUDED IN THAT? OKAY. THIS IS THE FIRST OPPORTUNITY I'VE HAD TO TALK ABOUT THIS NEW LIBRARY, AND I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'VE DONE.

IT LOOKS GREAT.

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I KNOW WE'RE STILL NEW IN THIS PROJECT AND THIS LIBRARY LOOKS GREAT.

IT'S IT'S A LIBRARY I WOULD WANT.

BUT COST IS ANOTHER THING THAT WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT, AND THE COUNCIL IS VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE COST OF ANY ITEM THAT COMES BEFORE THIS COUNCIL.

AND WE HAVE OPTIONS.

ONE OF THE OPTIONS THAT I'VE LOOKED AT IS TO INCREASE THE SIZE OF THE NEW LIBRARY TO 70,000FT², AND I DON'T GET TOO EXCITED, BECAUSE I'M THINKING OF A MAIN AND A BRANCH LIBRARY.

I'M THINKING OF 40,505FT² FOR THE NEW MAIN LIBRARY.

KEEP THE OLD LIBRARY AS A BRANCH.

I THINK IT'D BE BETTER UTILIZED THAT WAY.

AND 30,000FT² OF THAT NEW HULEN BUILDING COULD BE INCORPORATED TO A CITY HALL ANNEX.

THIS WOULD SLIGHTLY INCREASE THE PRICE FROM 55 TO 65 ACCORDING TO YOUR SQUARE FOOT NUMBERS.

YOU COULD TAKE ANOTHER 10,000, REMODEL THE OLD CITY HALL SO SPENDING 130,010 YEARS OR SIX YEARS FROM NOW TO BUILD A NEW LIBRARY AND A NEW CITY HALL. AND I KNOW WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT CITY HALL, BUT I'VE GOT TO MAKE A LOOP TO GET MY STATEMENT IN.

SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF MONEY JUST FOR TWO BUILDINGS AND A PARKING LOT.

MAYBE TWO PARKING LOTS.

YOU KNOW, WE COULD SAVE BY BUILDING AN ANNEX OUT THERE.

WE COULD SAVE $60,000, HAVE A NEW LIBRARY AND NOT A NEW CITY HALL.

SO WE COULD SAVE 60,000 OR 60 MILLION.

I'M SORRY. OUT OF THAT 130 MILLION, WE COULD TAKE THAT 60 MILLION AND BUILD A SECOND BRICK AT THE HULEN AND ALSBURY LOCATION, BECAUSE WE'RE BUSTING AT THE SEAMS THERE.

AND I'M TALKING FROM A BUDGET STANDPOINT, AND FOR THE SAME PRICE AS A NEW LIBRARY, WE COULD GET A CITY HALL.

WE COULD HAVE A NEW LIBRARY, A BRANCH LIBRARY, A NEW CITY HALL ANNEX, AND REMODELED CITY HALL.

AND A SECOND BRICK FOR THE SAME COST AS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOW FOR JUST A LIBRARY AND A CITY HALL.

SO GOING FORWARD IN THE FUTURE, MY OPINION WOULD BE TO CONSIDER MORE OPTIONS THAN JUST ONE LIBRARY, OR CONSIDER MORE OPTIONS FOR THE LIBRARY, MAKING IT A MAIN WITH AN ANNEX WHEN WE'RE DOING OUR RENDERINGS AND GIVE US MORE OPTIONS.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? DEANNA? OKAY. AND IN THE ANNEX, I KNOW THIS IS OUT OF MY PURVIEW, BUT IT WOULD BE CITIZEN BUSINESS SUCH AS PUBLIC WORKS AND ENGINEERING, UTILITY, CUSTOMER SERVICE, WATER, TRASH BILLING PERMITS, PARTS OF THE CITY, BUSINESS THAT INTERACTS WITH CITIZENS.

SO. AND TOLD YOU I WAS GOING TO MAKE A BIG LOOP AND GET BACK TO THE LIBRARY.

AND THAT'S WHERE I'M BACK. NOW, I REALLY LIKE YOUR RENDERING.

IF WE GO WITH THIS ONE LIBRARY INSTEAD OF TWO, THIS WOULD BE THE ONE I'D WANT.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

ANYBODY ELSE. THE ONLY THING I'D HAVE TO SAY ABOUT IT IS THE FACT THAT, IT IS THE MONEY. YOU.

THIS THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE VOTED ON BY, OF COURSE, THE PUBLIC.

AND, BEFORE WE GET TOO DEEP IN IT, IT IS A BEAUTIFUL LIBRARY.

DON'T GET ME WRONG. IT'S GREAT.

BUT BEFORE YOU GOT TOO DEEP INTO IT, WE'D HAVE TO DO A LOT OF RESEARCH WITH THE PEOPLE TO SAY, HEY, WHAT DO YOU WANT? DO YOU WANT TO SPEND THIS MONEY ON THIS OR DO YOU NOT, DO YOU WANT AN ANNEX? SO IN MY MIND, NUMBER ONE, IT'S THE MONEY.

AND YOU PROBABLY ALL KNEW I WAS GOING TO SAY THAT, BUT IT IT'S THE MONEY HERE.

THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT IT IN MY MIND.

YOU KNOW, WE TAKE HIGH LEVEL LOOKS AT THE VARIOUS FUNCTIONS OF WHAT WE DO.

WE STUDIED OUR FIRE PROTECTION AND HOW WE STAGE OUR STATIONS, HOW WE EXPECT TO AS WE GO THROUGH TIME.

AND WE'VE GOT A PLAN FOR THAT.

WE'VE LOOKED AT OUR POLICE SERVICES, AND WE'VE COME TO THE CONCLUSION OF BUILDING WHAT WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF BUILDING NOW TO, TO MEET OUR NEEDS FOR THE NEXT 20 YEARS.

I DON'T RECALL US STUDYING OUR SPACE NEEDS FOR THE CIVIC FUNCTIONS THAT WE PERFORM IN THIS BUILDING HERE.

I KNOW THAT THERE'S GOING TO COME A TIME WHEN IT LOOKS LIKE A VERY DESIRABLE CHOICE TO MOVE THIS BUILDING, AND I KNOW THAT'S PART OF THIS MASTER PLAN, BUT I ALSO KNOW THAT NOBODY HAS YET GRAPPLED WITH THE IDEA OF WHAT KIND OF SPACE WE NEED FOR THAT.

WE'VE DRAWN A BOX OUT THERE, BUT WE DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT'S IN IT OR WHAT THE NEEDS ARE GOING TO BE.

AND WHILE WE [INAUDIBLE] NEEDS, WE'RE SORT OF FORGETTING THAT WE'VE GOT A NETWORK OF ROADWAYS AND SIDEWALKS AND TRAILS AND PARKS AND THINGS THAT ALSO

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AND WE ALSO NEED TO KNOW HOW THAT'S GOING TO FIT WITH OUR MAINTENANCE AND IMPROVEMENT OF OUR STREET INFRASTRUCTURE WITH, WITH, YOU KNOW, IF WE'VE GOT POTHOLES ALL OVER THE STREET, WE'VE GOT A GREAT BRAND NEW DRIVE LIBRARY, THEN WE'RE MISSING SOMETHING.

AND THEN LOOKING AT LARRY'S HIGH LEVEL VIEW, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO TO THE PEOPLE WITH A RECOMMENDATION AT SOME POINT IN TIME.

AS AS THIS IS WHAT WE THINK WE NEED TO DO, THIS IS GOING TO BE A MASSIVE BOND ISSUE.

IF THIS WERE TO COME TO PASS AND ALL THESE NEEDS BE ADDRESSED.

AND, AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT HAS TO BE THE CITIZENS THAT DECIDE WHAT THEY WANT.

THROUGH US, WE CAN MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT THEIR VOTES ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BE TAKEN TO SEE WHETHER THERE IS SUPPORT IN THE COMMUNITY, TO SPEND TAX DOLLARS THIS WAY.

SO I'D RATHER HAVE BEFORE I SAY, AND I AGREE WITH LARRY ABOUT THE RENDITIONS AND THE SPACE.

I'M I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT WE'RE PAYING A LOT OF ATTENTION TO HOW THIS SPACE COULD BE UTILIZED FOR OTHER PURPOSES THAN BOOKS.

PEOPLE TEND TO HAVE A NARROW VISION AS TO WHAT A LIBRARY COULD DO.

YOU KNOW, I HEARD PHRASES ABOUT PERFORMANCE HALLS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT WITHIN THE LIBRARY, AND I GAVE A LITTLE, INNER HIP HIP HURRAY TO THAT, BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING SORELY LACKING AS OUR GATHERING SPACE IS LARGE ENOUGH TO ACCOMMODATE, EVENTS THAT WE NEED TO, TO HAVE SPACE FOR.

SO TO SEE SOME SYNERGY THERE BETWEEN THE LIBRARY FUNCTION AND OTHER NEEDS WITHIN WHAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE IN THE COMMUNITY IS A GOOD THING, TOO.

SO, I THINK THIS IS A GREAT STEP.

I THINK YOUR OUTREACH TO THE TO THE COMMUNITY WAS WELL DONE.

AND IT GIVES US SOME, SOME THINGS TO BEGIN TO THINK ABOUT, BUT THERE'S GOING TO BE A DAY IN THE DISTANT FUTURE WHEN WE HAVE TO PUT THIS OUT THERE AND SAY, OKAY, FOLKS, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO THIS? OR ARE WE NOT? SO MAYOR, COUNCIL TO MAYOR PRO TEM COMMENTS RELATED TO PLANNING FOR THE FUTURE.

NOW, THERE IS A MASTER FACILITY STUDY THAT'S GOING TO BE COMING LATER THIS YEAR THAT WAS FUNDED BY THE COUNCIL IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET TO LOOK AT THOSE VARYING NEEDS.

UNFORTUNATELY, WITH REGARDS TO THE LIBRARY MASTER PLAN, IT WAS JUST AHEAD IN THE QUEUE.

SO I DON'T DISAGREE.

AND IN IN REGARDS TO TIMING AND LOOKING HOLISTICALLY, REALLY, I THINK THE EXERCISE FOR TONIGHT WAS TO PROVIDE INFORMATION TO THE COUNCIL ABOUT WHAT WE THINK THE NEEDS ARE. WE UNDERSTAND THAT WE MAY NEED TO LOOK AT THAT WITH COUPLING WITH OTHER CITY FACILITIES AS WELL.

SO IT'S REALLY MORE A SQUARE FOOTAGE AND WHAT WE THINK WE NEED, WHETHER THAT'S SEPARATED, WHETHER THAT'S IN CONJUNCTION WITH OTHER CITY FACILITIES, I THINK THERE'S CONVERSATIONS.

WE STILL NEED TO HAVE, BUT UNTIL WE HAVE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON THE OTHER FACILITIES, I AGREE, MAYOR PRO TEM, WE NEED SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION BEFORE WE START LOOKING AT HARD, SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS.

WASN'T THERE A DISCUSSION ON THE THE LIBRARY BEING PART OF THAT MASTER PLAN SO THAT THEN .

THE LIBRARY ALREADY HAD THIS MASTER PLAN EFFORT GOING FORWARD? SO THAT OTHER SCOPE OF WORK DIDN'T INCLUDE THE LIBRARY FOR THAT REASON.

BUT WE'LL WE'LL LOOK AT IT.

WE'LL WE'LL LOOK AT IT IN CONJUNCTION TOGETHER FROM A SPACE NEEDS PERSPECTIVE.

I SEE A LOT OF COMMON AMENITIES HERE.

THAT. YOU KNOW ONE THING. WE BUILD THIS GREAT MEETING ROOM.

HOW OFTEN IS IT GOING TO BE USED? YOU KNOW, A LARGE VENUE LIKE THAT? VENUE LIKE THAT.

HOW OFTEN ARE YOU GOING TO USE IT? IF WE HAD IT NEXT TO THE CITY HALL OR NEXT TO PUBLIC SAFETY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

A MULTI-PURPOSE SITUATION WOULD WORK AND THAT GETS YOUR COSTS DOWN OVER TOO.

YES, MA'AM. STAFFING PROGRAMING WOULD UTILIZE THE ROOM AT LEAST ONCE A DAY.

SO RIGHT NOW WE HOST STORY TIMES THAT HAVE OVER 100 PEOPLE IN THEM.

AND WE HAVE TO DO THAT SLOWLY.

WE HAVE TEEN EVENTS. WE HAVE ADULT EVENTS.

SO WE WOULD USE IT AND WE WOULD ALSO BE ABLE TO RENT IT OUT TO THE PUBLIC AS WELL.

SO THOSE ARE ALL OPTIONS.

BUT WE WOULD UTILIZE IT JUST AS A COMMUNITY ROOM AND ANY OTHER PLACE WE WOULD.

BRINGING IN SOME CITY EVENTS, PROBABLY HOSTING CITY MEETINGS, THINGS LIKE THAT.

BUT YEAH, THE LIBRARY HAS PROGRAMING FOR THE HOPEFULLY ONE DAY LARGE MEETING ROOM.

OKAY, I'M TRYING TO GET THE COST DOWN FOR AN OVERALL PROJECT, AND PD CAME UP WITH A GREAT DEAL WHEN THEY STARTED COMBINING ROOMS AND THEY GOT THEIR PRICE DOWN ON THE NEW PD. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.

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OH ABSOLUTELY. AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THIS THE THE ISSUE WITH THE LIBRARY IS THIS HAS NEVER BEEN LOOKED AT.

SO WE STARTED IN 2020 KIND OF REALLY TAKING A LOOK AT THE LIBRARY.

THE LAST THING WE WANT TO DO IS GET DOWN TO 2035, 2040.

AND WE LOOK UP AND WE SAY, HEY, WHY DIDN'T ANYBODY EVER PLAN FOR THE LIBRARY? SO THIS IS THAT FIRST BRUSH THAT WE'RE BRINGING TO YOU GUYS TONIGHT.

TO GET IT IN FRONT OF YOU TO FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

AND I HAVE NO WAY WANT TO DISHEARTEN YOU ON THIS.

THIS IS A GREAT PRESENTATION.

I AGREE WITH EVERYBODY.

IT LOOKS GREAT, BUT WE'RE IN A POSITION HERE.

WE'VE GOT TO REALLY MINDFUL ON THIS.

THANK YOU ALL. ANYBODY ELSE? I DO HAVE TWO SPEAKER CARDS AFTER YOU GO AHEAD OKAY.

I JUST WE HAD A REALLY GOOD DISCUSSION AT THE COMMUNITY SERVICES COMMITTEE MEETING, AND, COUNCIL MEMBER ANDERSON AND COUNCIL MEMBER.

JOHNSON AND I SIT ON THAT.

AND I AGAIN, JUST WANT TO ECHO AND COMMEND OUR LIBRARY STAFF FOR DOING ALL THE WONDERFUL THINGS THAT YOU ARE DOING IN THE LIMITED SPACE THAT YOU HAVE.

YOU TRULY MAKE EVERY INCH OF THAT SPACE WORK.

AND, AND IT'S JUST IT'S AN AWESOME LIBRARY.

AND I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT WE HAVE A FACILITY THAT PEOPLE WANT TO BE AT AND WANT TO ENJOY.

AND I'M GRATEFUL FOR ALL THE CITIZENS WHO PARTICIPATED IN THE COMMUNITY SURVEY SO THAT WE KNOW WHAT MORE COULD WE OFFER AND WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING FOR? AND, I APPRECIATE STAFF BRINGING IT FORWARD BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING WE MOVED THE LIBRARY AND THEN IT WE'VE JUST LET IT OPERATE AND CONTINUE TO DO ALL THE WONDERFUL THINGS THAT IT DOES IN ITS SPACE.

BUT AT SOME POINT WE DID HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT, WHAT ARE YOU ACCOMPLISHING IN THE SPACE THAT YOU HAVE AND WHAT COULD YOU ACCOMPLISH, AND WHAT IS THE COMMUNITY REALLY LOOKING FOR IN A LIBRARY AS WE CONTINUE TO GROW? BECAUSE WE, AS WE HAVE TO LOOK AT EVERYTHING FROM HAS ALREADY BEEN MENTIONED, THE OUR PUBLIC SAFETY, OUR PUBLIC WORKS, EVERYTHING HAS TO, BE SURVEYED, YOU KNOW, AFTER SO MANY YEARS TO KNOW, ARE WE MEETING THE NEEDS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE AND HOW DO WE GROW? HOW DO WE CONTINUE TO MEET THEM AS WE GROW? AND WE ANTICIPATE A POPULATION OF OVER 100,000, AND WE KNOW THAT THIS IS JUST ONE OF THOSE FACILITIES THAT WILL HAVE TO SERVE OVER 100,000 IN POPULATION. AND SO IN ORDER TO ACCOMPLISH THAT, WE NEEDED TO LOOK AT A NUMBER OF THESE THINGS.

AND SO I GENUINELY APPRECIATE ALL THE EFFORT THAT HAS GONE INTO THIS.

AS IS MENTIONED FROM SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES, AND WE ALSO DISCUSSED IT AT THE COMMUNITY SERVICES COMMITTEE MEETING, IS, WE KNOW SOME OF A NUMBER OF THESE SPACES COULD BE HAVE BEEN ON OTHER LISTS BEFORE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THEY'VE COME UP IN PARKS, DISCUSSIONS AS FAR AS OUTDOOR LEARNING SPACES AND, THE SENSORIES, AND ALL THE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE CAN DO WITH OUTDOOR SPACES, THESE ARE, THESE ARE NOT DISCUSSIONS THAT ARE NEW TO JUST THE LIBRARY.

SO SOMETHING THAT WE BROUGHT UP AT THE COMMUNITY SERVICES COMMITTEE IS, ARE THERE OPPORTUNITIES WHERE NOT ONLY FACILITIES CAN OVERLAP BUT POTENTIALLY FUNDING, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S LOCATED NEXT TO A PARK, DOES IT THEN GET TO UTILIZE THAT SPACE TO FOR MAYBE IT'S THE MAYBE IT'S STEAM OR STEM, BUT IT'S OUTDOOR AND IT ALSO CHECKS OFF BOXES FOR ANOTHER DEPARTMENT.

AND SO A NUMBER OF THESE AREAS HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED IN OTHER OPPORTUNITIES AND IN OTHER, SURVEYS AND STUDIES.

AND SO, IT IS GOING TO BE A PROCESS.

AND I APPRECIATE YOU TAKING, LIKE DEANNA SAID, THE FIRST STROKE AT IT BECAUSE WE HAVE TO START SOMEWHERE.

BUT A BIG ISSUE IS IN, IN OUR IMMEDIATE PLANS FOR OUR FIVE YEAR, WE KNOW WHAT WE, YOU KNOW, STRIVE TO ACCOMPLISH IN THIS COMING FIVE YEARS. AND THEN WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE NEXT FIVE YEARS IN A CHUNK.

AND, THE THING THAT I WAS DISHEARTENED BY WAS, I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S THE WORD THE THING THAT WAS HAS STUCK OUT, I THINK, IN THE COMMUNITY IS WERE WE BEING, YOU KNOW, WE'VE, WE HAVE A LIMITED DEBT CAPACITY FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, AND WE'VE BEEN VERY UPFRONT ABOUT THAT.

AND WE DIDN'T WANT, I THINK PUSHING THIS TO PUSHING DOLLARS OUT TO THE COMMUNITY IMPLIES, LIKE WE HAVE PLANS TO ACCOMPLISH ANOTHER MAJOR PROJECT AND THAT'S, JUST NOT GOING TO BE THE CASE FOR A LITTLE WHILE.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LET DEBT FALL OFF AND, AND GROW AND ALLOW DEBT TO, ALLOW DEBT CAPACITY TO INCREASE IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH A NUMBER OF PROJECTS.

AND SO, AS COUNCIL MEMBER AND MAYOR PRO TEM SAID, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SEE WHERE THIS FALLS IN THAT, BECAUSE WE KNOW REGULARLY WE HEAR ABOUT POTHOLES, WE HEAR ABOUT WATER INFRASTRUCTURE.

WE HAVE SO MANY NEEDS.

AND SO WHERE DOES IT FALL INTO? AND THAT'S A DECISION, AS WAS ALREADY SAID, THAT THIS COUNCIL IS GOING TO HAVE TO STEER AND PUT FORWARD TO THE COMMUNITY.

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AND SO, IT'S JUST PART OF A BIG DISCUSSION.

AND SO I DON'T WANT THE COMMUNITY TO THINK THAT WE'RE JUMPING AHEAD, OR PRIORITIZING ANYTHING AT THIS MOMENT BECAUSE IT'S JUST THE BEGINNING OF THE CONVERSATIONS. BUT AGAIN, REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THE EFFORT THAT HAS GONE INTO THIS, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO START SOMEWHERE AND IT WILL BE MUCH.

IT'LL JUST PLAY ONE PIECE OF ONE PIECE OF THE MAJOR PUZZLE, ONCE WE RECEIVE ADDITIONAL FACILITY STUDIES, AND WE CAN SEE HOW THINGS CAN MAYBE OVERLAP AND HELP EACH OTHER TO ACCOMPLISH BIG GOALS LIKE THIS.

BECAUSE I THINK SO MANY OF US USERS OF THIS LIBRARY WOULD LOVE TO SEE SPACE THAT'S NEW AND UPDATED, AND CAN ACCOMPLISH A NUMBER OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IT TO ACCOMPLISH. I JUST WANT TO ECHO THAT I THINK THIS IS A GREAT PLACE TO START.

AND BECAUSE WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT OUR NEEDS ACROSS THE ENTIRE CITY.

AND YOU KNOW, WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT THAT WE HAD THE SECOND SMALLEST SPACE BUT THE SECOND MOST USE? YEAH. SO I MEAN, I THINK THAT SAYS RIGHT THERE THAT THE LIBRARY IS GETTING USED AND WE NEED AND IT'S GOOD TO LOOK AT MORE SPACE.

AND I LIKE SEEING RENDERINGS.

NOT THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE THE BE ALL HUGE, YOU KNOW THE SQUARE FOOTAGE IN THAT.

BUT AT LEAST IT KIND OF HELPS SAY, OKAY, THIS IS WHAT WE COULD HAVE.

IT'S NOT JUST FOR I'M A FINANCE GUY, SO EVERYTHING IS BLACK AND WHITE.

AND UNLESS I SEE LIKE A RENDERING, I'M ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST IT'S HARD TO PUT A PICTURE.

BUT AND I APPRECIATE THESE RENDERINGS AND I LIKE THEM VERY MUCH BUT BUT I DO THINK IT'S A VERY GOOD FIRST START.

AND I'M VERY ENCOURAGED TO HEAR ABOUT SALINA AND HOW THEY HOW THEY HAVE THE COMBINATION BUILDING.

AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE MAYOR SAID, IF THERE'S EFFICIENCIES YOU CAN HAVE AND HAVE MULTIPLE USE IN THE SAME BUILDING, BUT I THINK THIS IS A GOOD START.

SO I APPRECIATE YOU ALL BRINGING THIS.

THANK YOU. THE FIRST SPEAKER CARD I HAVE IS BETH LITNER.

GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR. FLETCHER AND COUNCILMAN, I'M BETH LITNER.

I CAME TO WORK FOR THE CITY OF BURLESON IN 2004 AS THE LIBRARY DIRECTOR, AND I SERVED FOR ABOUT THREE YEARS.

AFTER I WAS NOT WITH THE CITY ANY LONGER, I STARTED A SMALL BUSINESS IN TOWN, FINANCIAL ADVISOR, AND HAVE STAYED HERE.

I'VE USED THE LIBRARY REGULARLY.

NOT JUST FOR ENTERTAINMENT, ALTHOUGH I DO LIKE TO READ, LISTEN TO A BOOK ON TAPE ONCE IN A WHILE WHILE I'M DRIVING, BUT JUST FOR EVERYDAY, QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE.

I'M DOING A LITTLE RESEARCH ON NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS FOR AT THIS MOMENT.

AND I WENT TO THE LIBRARY AND THEY HAD THE INFORMATION THAT I NEEDED.

SO I'VE CONTINUED TO USE THE LIBRARY.

I JUST WANTED TO SAY A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, THE PERSON THAT'S BEFORE YOU.

SOME OF YOU KNOW ME AND SOME OF YOU DON'T.

I APOLOGIZE TO SARAH MILLER THIS WEEK.

I SAID, SARAH, I SHOULD HAVE.

I KNEW YOU WERE STARTING DOWN THIS PATH, BUT I HAVEN'T BEEN AS INVOLVED, BECAUSE I'VE BEEN CLOSING DOWN MY BUSINESS AND MOVING INTO RETIREMENT.

BUT I SAID I WANT TO BE MORE INVOLVED BECAUSE THIS IS REALLY WORTHWHILE.

I KNOW THIS IS A CONSERVATIVE COUNCIL.

YOU'RE VERY CAREFUL WITH THE CITIZENS DOLLARS AS YOU AS YOU SHOULD BE, AND I ADMIRE THAT.

BUT I'M SO GRATEFUL FOR THE GREAT QUESTIONS YOU HAD TONIGHT ABOUT HOW CAN WE MAKE THIS WORK? WHAT CAN WE COMBINE? HOW CAN WE LOOK AT THIS, PLEASE? I ENCOURAGE YOU TO CONSIDER THIS FULLY, AND WE'LL LOOK AT EVERY IDEA, TURN OVER EVERY ROCK TO TRY TO FIND THE RESOURCES TO HELP MAKE THIS A POSSIBILITY IN OUR COMMUNITY.

I THINK IT WOULD BE A FANTASTIC LEGACY FOR YOU AND FOR THE CITY TO BE ABLE TO EXPAND, THE LIBRARY, IF YOU'LL THINK ABOUT IT, WHEN THE LIBRARY WAS BUILT 30 YEARS AGO, NOT EVERYBODY EVEN HAD CELL PHONES.

DO YOU REMEMBER THAT? AND SO I HAVE ONE OF THESE AND I USE IT, BUT STILL, THERE'S A LOT.

WHEN I PUT A SEARCH IN, SOMETIMES I COME UP WITH 10,000 AND A LIST OF 10,000 ANSWERS.

BUT WHEN I GO TO THE LIBRARY, USUALLY I CAN FIND PINPOINT THAT ANSWER THAT I REALLY NEED AND IN DEPTH.

SO THERE'S A PLACE FOR THAT.

YOU HEARD THEM TALK ABOUT MAKERSPACE.

YOU MIGHT NOT HAVE HEARD THAT TERM BEFORE, AND I DON'T KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT IT, BUT I KNOW THIS IS WHERE YOU CAN USE A 3D PRINTER, OR MAYBE YOU CAN WRITE SOME MUSIC AND COMBINE WITH SOME OTHER PEOPLE.

IT'S REALLY A FANTASTIC PLACE, FOR DEMOCRACY TO HAPPEN IN YOUR COMMUNITY.

AND I HIGHLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO CONSIDER THIS.

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HELLO. THANK YOU FOR HEARING US TODAY.

I JUST WANTED TO REITERATE SOME OF THE POINTS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP IN THE PRESENTATION.

THE COMMENT ABOUT, THAT WE'RE REALLY MAXIMIZING THE SPACE THAT WE HAVE.

WE HAVE WE HAVE THE LEAST AMOUNT OF SPACE, BUT WE WE SERVE A LARGE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE.

EVERY TIME WE HAVE OUR ADVISORY BOARD MEETING, WE, WE HEAR ALL THE LIST OF, OF PROGRAMS THAT HAPPEN, FOR THE PREVIOUS MONTH OR TWO MONTHS AND TIME AFTER TIME, THOSE, EVENTS ARE AT CAPACITY.

AND, SO WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE DOING AS MUCH AS WE POSSIBLY CAN WITH THE SQUARE FOOTAGE WE HAVE.

AND I THINK IT'S AN EXCELLENT POINT TO LOOK AT HOW WE CAN DOVETAIL THIS INTO OTHER CITY SERVICES AND OTHER CITY BUILDINGS.

THE THE TOWN I GREW UP IN DID THE EXACT SAME THING.

THEY COMBINED THEIR LIBRARY, THEIR EQUIVALENT TO THE BRICK AND THEIR CITY HALL, ALL IN ONE COMPLEX.

AND THAT SERVED THE CITY REALLY WELL.

THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT WAS, YOU KNOW, AS WE LOOK AT THIS AND THE THING THAT WORRIES ME IS THAT WE'LL SAY THAT, OH, IT'S JUST THE LIBRARY.

IT'S JUST THE LIBRARY.

BUT IT DOES PLAY A KEY SERVICE AND A LOT OF PEOPLE'S LIVES.

I HAVE SEVERAL FRIENDS THAT HOMESCHOOL ALL THEIR KIDS, AND THE LIBRARY IS THEIR PRIMARY SOURCE OF EDUCATION MATERIAL.

AND I HAVE I HAVE ONE FRIEND THAT I MEAN, THEY CHECK IN EXCESS OF 30 BOOKS A WEEK.

THEY'RE THEY'RE ALWAYS GOING TO THE LIBRARY AND GETTING, RESOURCE MATERIALS FOR EDUCATION ON OF THEIR CHILDREN.

SO, THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION ON THIS.

AND LET'S WORK TOGETHER ON TRYING TO DOVETAIL THIS INTO THESE OTHER PROJECTS, I APPRECIATE IT.

MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM EIGHT B THAT'S TO RECEIVE A REPORT, HOLD A DISCUSSION AND PROVIDE STAFF FEEDBACK REGARDING BURLESON FIRE EMS DELIVERY OF ANIMAL

[8.B.Receive a report, hold a discussion and provide staff feedback regarding Burleson Fire/EMS delivery of ambulance transportation services (Staff Presenter: Casey Davis, Assistant Fire Chief)]

THE STAFF PRESENTER IS CASEY DAVIS, ASSISTANT FIRE CHIEF.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

CASEY DAVIS, ASSISTANT FIRE CHIEF.

I'M HERE TO BRING YOU AN AMBULANCE UPDATE.

TONIGHT, WE PLAN TO DISCUSS THE CALL VOLUME AND THE RUN TIMES THAT WE'VE BEEN EXPERIENCING.

GIVE AN UPDATE ON INTER-FACILITY TRANSPORT SINCE WE'VE MADE SOME CHANGES IN THAT MODEL.

PROVIDES YOU SOME UPDATED INFORMATION ON BILLING PROCESSES AND SOME THINGS TO CONSIDER AS WE WALK THROUGH THAT.

AND THEN SUBSCRIPTION PLAN DISCUSSION AROUND EMS BILLING.

SO THE NUMBERS FROM OCTOBER THROUGH JANUARY 2024.

THESE ARE PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.

WE'VE HAD 1986 911 CALLS FOR SERVICE.

138 OF THOSE WERE, INTER-FACILITY TRANSFERS THAT BURLESON FIRE DEPARTMENT DID OUTSIDE OF WHAT CAREFLIGHT DID.

THIS WAS THE VAST MAJORITY OF THESE WERE BEFORE DECEMBER 11TH, WHENEVER I GAVE THE LAST UPDATE ABOUT THE AMBULANCE.

AND THEN THE REST OF THESE ARE JUST THE OTHER TYPES OF EMS CALLS THAT WE FIND OURSELVES ON.

THAT ROUND OUT TO 2196 CALLS FOR THAT TIME FRAME.

SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO SEE WHAT HOSPITAL DESTINATIONS THAT WE'RE GOING TO.

YOU KNOW, WITH THE HOSPITAL THAT WE HAVE IN OUR REGION, WE'RE VERY BLESSED TO HAVE MULTIPLE HOSPITALS FOR FOR PATIENTS TO CHOOSE FROM.

OBVIOUSLY, WITH HUGUELY BEING THE HOSPITAL THAT WE GO TO THE MOST, IT'S RIGHT HERE IN OUR BACKYARD AND HAS A LOT OF RESOURCES AVAILABLE.

SO A LOT OF PATIENTS UTILIZE THAT.

ONE OF OUR POLICIES FOR THE AMBULANCE SERVICE IS TO CHOOSE THE CLOSEST, MOST APPROPRIATE FACILITY FOR THE PATIENT WHILE TRYING TO KEEP THE PATIENT'S CHOICE IN MIND.

SO A LOT OF TIMES THAT WINDS UP BEING HUGULEY HOSPITAL, THEN TEXAS HEALTH RESOURCE FORT WORTH, WHICH IS THE DOWNTOWN HOSPITAL, WHICH IS ALSO A TRAUMA FACILITY, AND THEN JOHN PETER SMITH, WHICH IS ALSO ANOTHER TRAUMA FACILITY RIGHT BEHIND THAT.

AND THEN AS THE LIST GOES DOWN THROUGH THERE, ONE THING TO NOTE HERE IS TRYING TO UTILIZE OTHER HOSPITALS THAT ARE EXTREMELY CLOSE OR RIGHT HERE WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS IS TEXAS HEALTH BURLESON AND THEN ALSO BAYLOR EMERGENCY MEDICAL CENTER, BURLESON.

WE MET WITH THEM BACK IN NOVEMBER AND GOT APPROVAL FROM DOCTOR CORDOVA TO START TRANSPORTING THEIR THEIR BOTH OF THOSE FACILITIES ARE VERY SIMILAR.

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LASTLY ON THIS SLIDE IS IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT NOT EVERY PATIENT THAT WE TAKE CARE OF GETS TRANSPORTED TO THE HOSPITAL.

SO DURING THAT TIME FRAME, WE HAD 804 PATIENTS THAT DIDN'T GET TRANSPORTED TO THE HOSPITAL.

THAT'S THAT'S TRENDING TO BE AROUND 35, 36% OF THE PATIENTS THAT WE WE TREAT DON'T WIND UP GOING TO THE HOSPITAL.

AND THAT SEEMS TO BE IN LINE WITH THE INDUSTRY STANDARD FOR US CURRENTLY.

SO OUR RUNTIMES, THESE ARE STAYING VERY CONSISTENT AND PROUD TO REPORT ON THESE FOR THE DEPARTMENT.

OUR FOLKS ARE DOING A GREAT JOB OF TRYING TO GET OUT OF THE STATION AND GET ON SCENE AND TURN THESE AROUND.

ALSO LIKE TO POINT OUT THE VERY FIRST ONE, THERE ARE 34 SECONDS.

IS THE AVERAGE UNIT NOTIFIED TO IN ROUTE.

SO THIS IS ONCE DISPATCH DISPATCHES THAT TEAM.

BY THE TIME THEY'RE GETTING IN THE AMBULANCE AND THEY'RE DRIVING DOWN THE ROAD IS 34 SECONDS.

SO THESE THESE ARE FOLKS ARE DOING A TREMENDOUS JOB OF GETTING OUT OF THE STATION, TAKING THESE CALLS VERY SERIOUSLY AND TRYING TO GET THERE AS QUICKLY AS THEY CAN WHILE ALSO BEING SAFE. BUT ON AVERAGE, IT'S FOUR MINUTES AND 26 SECONDS TO GET ON SCENE.

ONCE WE'RE ON SCENE TRANSPORTING A PATIENT, THE AVERAGE THERE'S 21 MINUTES AND 57 SECONDS.

THEN ONCE WE LEAVE AND DRIVE TO THE HOSPITAL, THE AVERAGE IS AROUND 1629.

AND THEN HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE US TO TURN AROUND AFTER WE'RE AT THE HOSPITAL AND WE TRANSITION? THAT CARE TO THE PATIENTS IS 24 MINUTES AND TWO SECONDS.

SO OUR AVERAGE IS ABOUT AN HOUR AND TEN MINUTE TURNAROUND TOTAL IS WHAT WE'RE SEEING RIGHT NOW.

AND I THINK THAT'S ALL IN LINE WITH WHERE WE EXPECTED TO BE.

WE WE TRY TO HOLD THEM, THE CREWS TO A 20 MINUTES AT THE HOSPITAL BEFORE WE START, YOU KNOW, ASKING THEM, HEY, WHAT'S GOING ON? THAT KIND OF STUFF. BUT SOMETIMES THE HOSPITALS ARE EXTREMELY BUSY.

SOMETIMES IT TAKES A LITTLE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO GET THE PATIENT MOVED OVER DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO, WE'RE CONTINUING TO MONITOR THAT AND, AND WATCH THAT, THAT TIME AS WELL.

SO AS I'VE PRESENTED THIS SLIDE LAST TIME AND WANTED TO JUST A QUICK REMINDER THAT HOW WE'VE CHANGED THE EMS MODEL SINCE WE WE BEGAN INITIALLY IN OCTOBER, WE STARTED OUT WHERE BURLESON FIRE EMS WAS THE PRIMARY FOR BOTH 911 CALLS AND INTER FACILITIES, AND CAREFLIGHT WAS OUR PRIMARY BACKUP HERE, STATIONED OUT OF STATION THREE.

IN NOVEMBER, WE TRANSITIONED TO ALTERNATING THE INTER FACILITY TRANSFERS AND THEN IN DECEMBER AT THE DECEMBER 11TH MEETING.

AT THAT UPDATE, THE DECISION WAS THERE MADE TO MAKE CAREFLIGHT THE PRIMARY FOR THE INTER FACILITIES.

BURLESON WOULD BE PRIMARY FOR THE 911 AND THAT THAT SEEMS TO BE WORKING WELL FOR ALL OF US.

I ALSO HAVE BRANT STOVALL, WHO'S THE OPERATIONS MANAGER FOR CAREFLIGHT FOR THE WESTERN DIVISION HERE WITH US IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR HIM AS WELL.

SO WHAT ARE THE INTER FACILITY TRANSPORTS LOOK LIKE? SO THE BLUE REPRESENTS BURLESON AND THE ORANGE REPRESENTS CAREFLIGHT.

SO IN OCTOBER YOU CAN SEE WE DID THE VAST MAJORITY OF 66 CAREFLIGHT DID 37.

THEN IN NOVEMBER WHERE WE WERE ALTERNATING, IT WAS FAIRLY EVEN WHERE WE DID BURLESON DID 48 AND CAREFLIGHT DID 55.

THEN IN DECEMBER WE TRANSITIONED TO WHERE CAREFLIGHT'S PRIMARY.

AND THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN UNTIL, LIKE I SAID, DECEMBER THE 11TH.

SO, OF THOSE 17, 12 OF THOSE WERE DONE BEFORE DECEMBER THE 11TH.

SO REALLY ONLY SIX WERE DONE AFTER THAT.

THAT CHANGE WAS MADE. SO IT MADE AN IMMEDIATE DIFFERENCE IN IMPACT IN OUR AVAILABILITY AND FOCUS IN PRIMARY ON THE 911 CALLS.

AND THEN AS YOU CAN SEE THERE IN JANUARY, CONTINUING WITH THAT MODEL, WE ONLY DID THREE INTER-FACILITY TRANSFERS TRANSPORTS AND CAREFLIGHT DID DID THE VAST MAJORITY.

JANUARY WAS A LITTLE BIT LESS THAN NORMAL.

TYPICALLY WE SEE A RIGHT AT 100 OR A LITTLE OVER 100 TRANSPORTS.

INTERFACILITY TRANSFERS.

BUT IT WAS JUST A LIGHT MONTH.

SO THANKFUL FOR THAT.

ALSO TO NOTE HERE, SINCE WE MADE THE CHANGE, WE HAVEN'T STAFFED THE FOURTH AMBULANCE WITH OVERTIME SINCE THAT DECEMBER 11TH TIME FRAME.

WE HAVEN'T NEEDED TO.

WE'RE CHANGING THAT MODEL, SO THAT SEEMS TO BE WORKING WELL FOR OVERTIME AND STAFFING AND RELIEF FOR CREWS ON THAT FOURTH AMBULANCE.

SO WE CONTINUE TO MONITOR THAT.

BUT YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TIME TO TIME WHERE WE GO LEVEL ZERO AND WE'RE ABLE TO PUT THAT FOURTH AMBULANCE UP WITH STAFFING THAT'S ON DUTY.

WITH THE ADDITIONAL STAFFING THAT WE BROUGHT ON WITH THE SAFER, THOSE, FIREFIGHTERS ARE NOW STARTING TO SLOWLY GET RELEASED INTO THE SYSTEM TO WHERE THEY CAN FUNCTION.

SO THAT'S GIVEN US A LITTLE BIT MORE CAPACITY HERE AND THERE WHERE WE WHERE WE NEED THAT.

SO THAT'S BEEN VERY BENEFICIAL.

SO WHAT HAS CAREFLIGHT DONE.

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SO THEY TOOK CARE OF 143 911 CALLS AND THEN 270 INTER FACILITIES, MAKING A GRAND TOTAL OF 413.

CARE FLIGHT'S BEEN A GREAT STRATEGIC PARTNER.

SO THEY HAVE MET WHAT WE CALL MEDIC 42, WHICH IS STATIONED HERE IN BURLESON.

BUT THERE'S ALSO ANOTHER AMBULANCE IN CLEBURNE, MEDIC 41, AND IT TYPICALLY COMES DOWN DURING OUR BUSY TIMES AND HELPS BACK US UP AS WELL.

SO THEY'VE BEEN CONTINUE TO BE A GREAT PARTNER FOR US.

SO I WANT TO TRANSITION AND TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR AMBULANCE BILLING UPDATE.

AND I WON'T GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF READING THIS TO YOU.

I KNOW THERE'S A LOT HERE, BUT REALLY, WHAT THIS SLIDE IS REPRESENTING IS, IF YOU RECALL, WHENEVER WE WERE GOING THROUGH ALL OF OUR LICENSING, ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WE HAD WAS GETTING OUR AMBULANCES HERE SO THAT WE COULD GET OUR STATE LICENSE.

THAT TOOK A LITTLE BIT OF A CHALLENGE TO GET THOSE HERE WITH THE WITH THE MANUFACTURER MAKING THE AMBULANCES AND ALL OF THE THINGS THAT WERE ON BACK ORDER AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

WE DID GET ALL OF OUR AMBULANCES HERE BEFORE WE WENT LIVE.

WE ACTUALLY GOT OUR LAST AMBULANCE EIGHT HOURS BEFORE WE WENT LIVE.

SO BUT WE WERE ABLE TO GET OUR THE STATE WORKED WELL WITH US TO WORK ON GETTING OUR LICENSING, BUT SINCE WE COULDN'T GET OUR LICENSING REALLY KIND OF WRAPPED UP UNTIL THE MID PART OF SEPTEMBER, THAT PUSHED ALL OF OUR ONBOARDING WITH THE MERGER CON MERGER CON COULDN'T DO THE TRADITIONAL ONBOARDING THAT TAKES A FEW MONTHS FOR THEM TO FOR US TO HAVE OUR YOU HAVE TO HAVE YOUR STATE LICENSE TO GET YOUR NATIONAL PROVIDER IDENTIFIER, WHICH SETS YOU UP FOR MEDICARE, MEDICAID, AND ALL OF YOUR PRIVATE PAYERS AND OTHER GOVERNMENT PAYERS.

SO THAT PUSHED EVERYTHING BACK.

SO WHEN WE WENT LIVE OCTOBER 1ST, THEY COULDN'T DO ANY BILLING FOR US BECAUSE IT WAS GOING TO TAKE A WHILE TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THE REGULATORY SERVICES TO GET WITH MEDICARE AND MEDICAID AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THE PRIVATE PAYERS.

SO SINCE THAT PUSHED ALL OF THAT BACK, THEY TOLD US THAT THEY REALLY COULDN'T GO LIVE FOR US UNTIL DECEMBER 1ST.

WE ASKED IF THEY COULD GO LIVE SINCE WE HAD OUR NATIONAL PROVIDER IDENTIFIER IN NOVEMBER.

THEY STARTED DOING A LITTLE BIT OF BILLING IN NOVEMBER FOR US WITH SOME PRIVATE PAYERS, YOU KNOW, JUST TO MAKE SURE THE PROCESS WAS WORKING, MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD ALL OF OUR PIECES IN PLACE.

WE FOUND A COUPLE OF AREAS THAT WE NEEDED TO MAKE SOME IMPROVEMENTS.

SO BILLING REALLY DIDN'T GET TO GET STARTED UNTIL MID PART OF DECEMBER, AND IT REALLY STARTED TO ROLL AFTER THAT.

SO WE REALLY HAVE EVEN THOUGH WE'VE HAD A WHOLE QUARTER, WE HAVEN'T HAD A WHOLE QUARTER OF BILLING REALLY.

WE'VE KIND OF HAD A LITTLE OVER A MONTH AND A HALF NOW, AND WE DON'T EVEN HAVE THE JANUARY NUMBERS QUITE YET.

SO I DON'T HAVE.. CASEY, HOW WERE WE BILLING TO KICKOFF THEN? SO GREAT QUESTION.

SO EVEN THOUGH THEY COULDN'T INITIALLY START BILLING THEY CAN BACK BILL ALL OF THAT.

SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO MISS OUT ON ANY OF THOSE OPPORTUNITIES TO BILL THOSE PATIENTS.

WE JUST COULDN'T BILL THEM IMMEDIATELY LIKE WE CAN NOW ONCE YOU GET GET EVERYTHING UP AND RUNNING, BECAUSE THOSE FIRST STEPS ARE THAT YOU HAVE TO GET THAT MEDICARE LICENSE, WHICH KIND OF REALLY GETS YOU STARTED GOING WITH EVERYBODY.

THAT ONE KIND OF LEGITIMIZES YOU, AS I LIKE TO SAY, AND THEN YOUR PRIVATE PAYERS COME ON.

AND THEN THERE'S THERE'S SEVERAL OTHER GOVERNMENT PAYERS AS WELL.

BUT EMERGICON BELIEVES THAT BY THE END OF THE SECOND QUARTER OF THIS BUDGET YEAR, WE'LL HAVE ENOUGH DATA TO START TO SEE, YOU KNOW, THEY EXPECT TO SEE A POSITIVE TREND IN IN OUR BILLING DATA TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE SOME UPDATES FOR YOU.

SO SINCE WE DON'T HAVE ANY BILLING DATA TO REALLY SHARE WITH YOU AT THIS POINT, WHAT WE DID WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU IS WHAT A MERGER COST PROJECTIONS WERE.

SO THESE WERE THE PROJECTIONS THAT THEY INITIALLY GAVE US WHENEVER WE WERE GOING THROUGH THE RFP PROCESS.

AND THEY TOOK A LOOK AT US.

AND THAT'S WHERE THE $1.5 MILLION CAME THAT THEY EXPECTED, BASED ON THE CALL VOLUME THAT THEY WERE ABLE TO LOOK AT.

THEY EXPECTED US TO TRANSPORT 3550 PATIENTS.

NOW, THAT CASH PER TRANSPORT NUMBER, I THINK IS GOING TO BE REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US TO PAY ATTENTION TO, I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE A KEY PERFORMANCE INDICATOR WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT BILLING.

IT'S GOING TO BE IT'LL BE A NUMBER THAT WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT FROM A MONTH TO MONTH AND A QUARTER TO QUARTER AND A YEAR TO YEAR KIND OF BASIS AND BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE SEE SOME GOOD TRENDS WITH THAT, WE'LL BE ABLE TO PROJECT WHAT OUR REVENUE SHOULD BE BASED ON WHAT OUR CALL VOLUME IS LOOKING LIKE.

SO I THINK THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE AN IMPORTANT ONE FOR US TO CONTINUE TO WATCH.

THERE'LL BE OTHER ONES AS WELL.

LIKE HOW LONG IS IT TAKING TO COLLECT REVENUE? DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT.

BUT THIS I THINK WILL BE A VERY KEY INDICATOR FOR THAT.

SO CURRENTLY THERE'S INSUFFICIENT DATA AND BILLING REVENUE TO MAKE AN ACCURATE ASSESSMENT OF THE CASH PER TRANSPORT.

BUT EMERGICON ANTICIPATES BY THE END OF THE SECOND QUARTER OF 2023-2024 BUDGET YEAR, WE'LL START TO DEVELOP A POSITIVE TREND IN AMBULANCE CALL VOLUME AND BILLING.

SO THIS ASSESSMENT IS GROUNDED IN THE APPROXIMATE WORTH OF DATA.

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IT'S A LITTLE OVER 500 PATIENTS THAT WERE TAKEN CARE OF.

AND THEN WE'RE TRANSPORTING SOMEWHERE AROUND 350 PATIENTS A MONTH.

SO AS LONG AS THOSE CONTINUE TO BE THE TREND, YOU KNOW, WE WATCH THOSE, WE'LL BE ABLE TO, I THINK, START TO PROJECT WHAT OUR AMBULANCE REVENUE BILLING SHOULD LOOK LIKE.

SO ANOTHER THING THAT HAS CONTINUED TO BE A QUESTION FROM CITIZENS AND ALSO FROM COUNCIL AND FROM US AND EMERGING, YOU KNOW, QUESTIONS WE'VE HAD WITH EMERGICON IS WHAT ABOUT EMS SUBSCRIPTION PLANS? A LOT OF AMBULANCE SERVICES HAVE HAD THEM HAVE HAD THEM FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME.

IT'S KIND OF PART OF THE INDUSTRY.

BUT WHEN WE WERE GOING INTO THE AMBULANCE BUSINESS, OF COURSE, SOME MAJOR THINGS CHANGED.

I HAD PRESENTED TO YOU BACK IN SEPTEMBER, I BELIEVE, ON SENATE BILL 2476.

AND SO AS WE WALK THROUGH THIS AND TALK THROUGH THIS FOR A SECOND, THAT CONVERSATION WILL KIND OF COME BACK UP WHEN WE'LL REVISIT THAT.

BUT SO BASICALLY, WHAT IS AN EMS SUBSCRIPTION PLAN? BASICALLY IT'S A IT'S A ONE TIME FEE THAT A HOUSEHOLD OR A BUSINESS CAN PAY FOR.

AS LONG AS THEY HAVE PRIVATE INSURANCE OR MEDICARE.

IT'S AN UPFRONT COST THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY MAKE THAT PAYMENT AND IT WILL OFFSET ANY POTENTIAL OUT OF COST, THAT THEY WOULD HAVE ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT THEIR INSURANCE WOULDN'T PAY.

THE REASON WHY A LOT OF, SUBSCRIPTION PLANS EXISTED WAS BECAUSE THE INSURANCE COMPANIES TREATED AMBULANCE SERVICES AS AN OUT OF NETWORK BILLING. SO THEN A LOT OF TIMES THEY WOULD BILL OR THEY WOULD PAY AT A MUCH LESSER RATE.

AND SO THIS HAS BEEN A TREND THAT'S BEEN AN ISSUE IN THE EMS AMBULANCE BILLING WORLD FOR QUITE SOME TIME.

SO SOME OF THE POSITIVES, OR PROS FOR MAINTAINING EMS SUBSCRIPTION PLAN IS THAT SUBSCRIBERS GAIN CONFIDENCE THAT THEY WON'T FACE UNEXPECTED MEDICAL BILLS WHEN THEY'RE TRANSPORTED.

REQUESTING THEIR INSURANCE INFORMATION UP FRONT.

YOU CAN GIVE THAT TO BILLING SO THAT THAT REDUCES THE TIME AND EFFORT OF TRACKING DOWN THAT KIND OF INFORMATION.

IT'S AN ADDITIONAL REVENUE SOURCE.

SUBSCRIPTION PROGRAMS PROVIDE REVENUE STREAMS FOR EMS DEPARTMENTS, AND IT COULD BE EVEN FOR INDIVIDUALS THAT WIND UP NOT EVEN UTILIZING THE THE THE AMBULANCE SERVICE. BUT THERE'S SOME SOME THINGS TO CONSIDER WITH THAT AS WELL.

THE EMS SUBSCRIPTION PLAN SERVES AS AN ENHANCEMENT FOR THOSE WHO CHOOSE TO PARTICIPATE.

HOWEVER, THE LIKELIHOOD THAT THE REVENUE GENERATED MAY NOT FULLY COVER THE WRITE OFFS OF THE PROGRAM.

REALLY? LIKE I SAID IN THE PAST, EMS SYSTEMS WOULD UTILIZE THIS TO HELP WITH THAT BALANCE BILLING PROBLEM, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO SEE IF THAT'S GOING TO CONTINUE TO BE AN ISSUE IN TEXAS OR NOT WITH THIS NEW SENATE BILL.

PARTICIPANTS IN A SUBSCRIPTION PLAN WILL NOT INCUR ANY OUT-OF-POCKET COSTS, EVEN IF THEY HAVEN'T MET THEIR DEDUCTIBLE OF THEIR INSURANCE OR IF THE INSURANCE OR MEDICARE DEEMS THE SERVICE UNNECESSARY, RESULTING IN NONPAYMENT.

SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE WAY EMERGICON IS KIND OF FRAMED.

THIS CONVERSATION FOR US IS THIS IS REALLY KIND OF A POLICY DISCUSSION WITH WITH COUNCIL.

THEY DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW IF IT WILL OR WILL NOT COVER THE ACTUAL COST.

AND BUT ALTHOUGH THERE ARE ARE BENEFITS TO CONSIDER, PRECIPITANTS IN A SUBSCRIPTION PLAN WILL NOT INCUR ANY OUT-OF-POCKET COSTS EVEN IF THEY DON'T MEET THEIR DEDUCTIBLES.

LIKE WE SAID, TRADITIONAL INSURANCE SUBSCRIPTION PROGRAMS HAVE AIMED TO SHIELD PATIENTS FROM BALANCE BILLING, AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT.

AND THEN SENATE BILL 2476, SEEKS TO ADDRESS THE BALANCE BILLING CONCERN FOR PATIENTS BY ESTABLISHING A FRAMEWORK FOR INSURANCE TO REIMBURSE BASED ON EMS SERVICE FEES.

SO REALLY WHAT THIS DOES IS THE SENATE BILL REQUIRES US TO UPLOAD OUR FEE SCHEDULE TO THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF INSURANCE WEBSITE SO THAT THAT'S THE PLACE THAT INSURANCE COMPANIES WILL GO AND SEE WHAT OUR FEE SCHEDULE IS.

AND THEN BASED ON THAT, THERE'S SOME THE POINT IN THE BILL IS THAT THEY WILL PAY CLOSER TO THAT THAN WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN THE PAST.

SO BUT THE OVERALL MESSAGE CURRENTLY, RIGHT NOW IS THAT THERE'S NOT ENOUGH DATA BECAUSE THE THE BILL DIDN'T KICK IN UNTIL JANUARY 1ST OF THIS YEAR.

WE'RE WATCHING THESE THINGS CLOSELY.

I THINK WE'VE BUILT A LOT OF THINGS INTO OUR AMBULANCE BILLING POLICY, FROM COUNCIL'S DIRECTION TO HELP, PATIENTS WHENEVER THEY INCUR A BILL FOR EMERGICON TO WORK THROUGH THAT SITUATION WITH THEM.

AND I THINK THE ASK WOULD BE, IF WE CAN LOOK AT THIS FOR ABOUT SIX MONTHS AND SEE IF THIS IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO TREND OUT FOR US ONE WAY OR ANOTHER, TO SEE IF THE SUBSCRIPTION PLAN WOULD BE BETTER AS WE GET GET MORE DATA AND BRING THAT BACK TO COUNCIL.

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SO BUT IT ONLY AFFECTS INSURANCE COMPANIES THAT ARE REGULATED IN TEXAS.

THAT ONLY MAKES UP ABOUT 20% OF INSURANCE PATIENTS IN TEXAS.

AND THAT'S ACCORDING TO THE TEXAS EMS ALLIANCE.

SO THERE AGAIN, WE THEY DID THIS ON A NATIONAL LEVEL FOR THE HELICOPTER SERVICES, BUT THEY LEFT GROUND AMBULANCES OUT.

SO NOW THE STATE HAS STEPPED IN TO DO THIS AT A STATE LEVEL.

THIS BILL IS SET TO EXPIRE ON SEPTEMBER 1ST OF 2025.

BUT IT CAN BE AMENDED OR EXTENDED.

I THINK THE WHOLE INDUSTRY IS TRYING TO WATCH AND SEE HOW SOME OF THESE WILL WORK IN DIFFERENT STATES AND SEE HOW THIS WILL PLAY OUT, BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S BEEN CONCERTED EFFORTS ON THE FEDERAL LEVEL AS WELL TO HAVE SOMETHING AT THAT LEVEL, TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION ABOUT OUT-OF-NETWORK BILLING FOR AMBULANCE SERVICES AND, YOU KNOW, ALL THE PROBLEMS THAT THAT BRINGS WITH IT.

SO I'LL OPEN UP TO ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS THAT YOU MAY HAVE AND.

ANYONE? YEAH. CASEY, THAT WAS A VERY POSITIVE PRESENTATION.

I'M IMPRESSED WITH THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE.

YOU AND YOUR TEAM ON THE INNER FACILITY TRANSPORTS GETTING THE NUMBER DOWN.

THAT'S THAT'S AN AMAZING DECREASE.

AND I ALSO WANT TO THANK CAREFLIGHT FOR BEING AVAILABLE AND TAKING THOSE INNER FACILITY TRANSPORTS.

I APPRECIATE IT.

LOOKING FORWARD TO THE FUTURE OF OUR EMS SERVICE.

YOU'RE DOING A GREAT JOB.

THANK YOU SIR. WE APPRECIATE THAT.

I RECALL WHEN WE PUT THIS IDEA INTO PLACE THAT THE COMMITMENT WE MADE WAS AT IT'S BASIS, THAT WE WOULD PROVIDE BETTER SERVICE THAN WE HAD BEEN PROVIDED BY OUR PREVIOUS PROVIDER, AND IT WOULD NOT TAKE BUDGET MONEY TO DO THAT BECAUSE THE PROGRAM WOULD PAY FOR ITSELF.

AND I KNOW PROJECTIONS ARE SOMETIMES, NOT GOING TO WORK OUT AS THEY PLANNED.

AND I'M NOT SAYING THEY ARE, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION RIGHT NOW.

YOU'RE NOT YOU DON'T HAVE YOUR CPT NAILED DOWN QUITE YET BECAUSE YOU NEED MORE TIME AND EXPERIENCE TO DO THAT.

AND OF COURSE, WE WE DON'T KNOW HOW OUR FINANCES ARE GOING TO RUN.

BUT I SORT OF RECALL AND I COULD BE WRONG, BUT I SORT OF RECALL THAT INTER-FACILITY TRANSPORTS WERE A PART OF THE FINANCIAL MODEL THAT WE SET OUT WITH FROM THE BEGINNING, AND ANYONE'S FREE TO CORRECT ME ON THAT.

I THINK THAT'S TRUE.

IT MAY NOT BE, I'LL GIVE YOU THAT DISCLAIMER, BUT WHETHER IT WAS OR NOT, I'VE BEEN IN THE CONSTRUCTION BUSINESS FOR 45 YEARS.

I STARTED MY OWN COMPANY 34 YEARS AGO, AND ONE OF THE VITAL COMPONENTS OF BEING SUCCESSFUL IN THE CONSTRUCTION BUSINESS IS BEING ABLE TO A, PREDICT YOUR COST, AND B, MONITOR YOUR COST AND THEN COMPARE.

AND WHEN YOU MAKE COMPARISONS, THEN YOU MAKE CORRECTIONS.

AND BASICALLY THE GOAL BEING THAT YOUR INCOME IS GREATER THAN YOUR OUTGOING.

AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU MADE A PROFIT.

WELL, WE'RE NOT A PROFIT MAKING ENTERPRISE, BUT THAT DOESN'T GET US AWAY FROM THE ONUS ON US TO, ONUS TO, MAKE A FINANCIAL MODEL WORK OUT.

WE NEED TO ESTABLISH A FEEDBACK LOOP FOR PREDICTING OUR COSTS, FOLLOWING OUR COSTS, AND THEN CORRECTING OUR EFFORTS AS WE GO ALONG.

AND THAT'S GOING TO BE A PART, REALLY, OF ANY FINANCIAL ENTERPRISE.

IT HAS TO BE HAS TO BE DONE THAT WAY.

SO I WILL BE VERY INTERESTED IN SEEING WHEN WE GET TO THE POINT WHERE WE FEEL LIKE WE CAN MAKE, GOOD, REASONABLE CONCLUSIONS ABOUT HOW WELL WE'VE PERFORMED FINANCIALLY UP TO DATE.

AND WE'RE OBVIOUSLY IN THIS.

THERE WAS NO TURNING BACK, BUT WE STILL HAVE TO MODIFY IT, TWEAK IT, MAKE IT WORK, AND TRACK OUR COSTS AND KNOW WHAT THEY ARE.

YES, SIR. WOULD YOU MIND IF I SPEAK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT TO THE INTER-FACILITY TRANSFERS? SO ORIGINALLY, ORIGINALLY WHEN WE WERE LOOKING INTO THIS WITH ICH IN THEM, IT WAS VERY UNCLEAR WHETHER THE INTER-FACILITY TRANSPORTS WERE IN THOSE NUMBERS OR NOT.

IN THOSE NUMBERS, WE NEVER COULD GET A CLEAR ANSWER, REALLY ON THE CLEAR NUMBER OF INTER-FACILITY TRANSFERS.

SO WE WORKED WITH HR TO UNDERSTAND THEIR NUMBER ANNUALLY AS WELL.

AND THEY'RE THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE FACILITIES THAT COME OUT OF BURLESON.

IT'S ROUGHLY AROUND 100, 100 A YEAR.

SO ONE OF THE PREDICTIONS THAT, A MERGER COM WAS ABLE TO DO WAS TO LOOK AT HOW MANY TRANSPORTS DID THEY THINK THAT WE WOULD DO IN A YEAR, YOU

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AND THEY SAID THAT THEY THOUGHT THAT WE WOULD DO 3550 TRANSPORTS A YEAR, BILLABLE TRANSPORTS, WHETHER THOSE WERE 911 OR FACILITY, WHAT HAVE YOU.

AND SO THE FIRST QUARTER, WE TRANSPORTED 1058 PATIENTS IN THAT QUARTER, INCLUDING 138 OF THOSE WERE IN OUR FACILITY.

AND SO IF WE WENT WITH THE MERGER CONS PREDICTIONS, WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN AT 887.

SO WE WERE WE WERE OVER THAT AND WE WERE EVEN OVER THAT WITHOUT THE THE TRANSFER.

SO I THINK I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU.

I THINK AS WE CONTINUE TO WATCH THIS, AND I THINK IF OUR, OUR CALL VOLUME CONTINUES TO STAY WITH THAT, I MEAN WE'RE AND THEN THE CPT WORKS OUT TO WHERE THEY THINK IT SHOULD BE, WHICH YOU KNOW, HOW FINANCES ARE.

I THINK THAT THEY THEY THOUGHT THAT THEY WERE GOING WITH A CONSERVATIVE NUMBER IN THIS PREDICTION.

YOU KNOW, THEY DIDN'T WANT TO BE WRONG EITHER.

SO I THINK IF WE GET ANOTHER QUARTER UNDER OUR BELT AND THE CALL VOLUME CONTINUES, YOU KNOW, THIS SHOULD FALL IN PLACE.

IS IS THE CURRENT PLAN AND THE CURRENT TREND THAT WE'RE SEEING.

SO I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THE CALL VOLUME THAT WE'RE HAVING AND THE AMOUNT OF PATIENTS THAT WE'RE TRANSPORTING AND THE WAY WE'RE DOING THIS.

BUT I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU THAT WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO LOOK AT THAT, BRING THAT BEFORE COUNCIL TO GET DIRECTION ON HOW WE MAKE SURE THAT WE KEEP THIS FINANCIALLY RESPONSIBLE AS WE AS WE DO THAT AND TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING THOSE COST RECOVERY DOLLARS LIKE YOU SPOKE ABOUT TO FOR THE INVESTMENT THAT WE HAD TO ADD ON TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TO, TO TAKE ON THIS NEW SERVICE.

BUT, FIREFIGHTERS ARE DOING A GREAT JOB WITH IT.

GOOD RELATIONSHIPS WITH OUR LOCAL HOSPITALS AND, AND.

SEEM TO BE GOING GOOD WITH ALL OF THAT SO FAR.

SO THANK YOU FOR THOSE COMMENTS.

SO THANK YOU MAYOR COUNCIL, I'LL I'LL ADD TO WHAT CASEY SAID.

YOU KNOW THIS, YOU CAN SEE BY THE PRESENTATION THAT THE PROCEDURES AND PROCESSES HAVE EVOLVED AS WE'VE TAKEN ON THIS OPERATION, AS WE'VE LOOKED AT, YOU KNOW, OVERTIME COSTS AND ADDITIONS HERE, WE'RE BALANCING A NUMBER OF CALLS WITH THE COST PER TRANSPORT AND ONCE WE HAVE BETTER DATA THERE.

BUT THE THING THAT WAS CONCERNING FOR ME WAS THE NUMBER OF OVERTIME HOURS.

AND SO IF, AFTER WE GET OUR COST PER SERVICE BACK, OR IF WE START HAVING TO RUN A FOURTH AMBULANCE ALREADY, THEN THAT MAY CHANGE OUR APPROACH.

BUT I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW, WE'RE ALSO LOOKING FROM AN OVERTIME PERSPECTIVE TO BECAUSE THE REVENUE IS ONE THING, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT HAVING COST ON THE OTHER END THAT OFFSET THOSE.

YEAH, THAT'S THANK YOU, TOMMY, BECAUSE THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WAS GOING TO BRING UP.

IS THAT IN THE INITIAL LIKE WHEN WE WERE TRANSPORTING AS MUCH AS WE WERE AND HAVING TO BACK STAFF TO, TO STAFF A FOURTH AMBULANCE TO MAKE THOSE TRANSPORTS, THE I WOULD MAKE THE ASSUMPTION THAT WE WERE NOT RECOVERING THE COSTS THAT IT TOOK TO BACKFILL THOSE POSITIONS.

IT WAS A LOT MORE COSTLY TO HIRE EVERYONE BACK, NOT TO MENTION THE WEAR ON THE STAFF THEMSELVES.

AND, SO I DON'T THINK I'M GLAD WE'RE WEIGHING THAT AND THAT WE HAVE REELED IT IN SO THAT WE CAN TRULY SEE WHAT OUR 911 CALL VOLUME IS AND PRIORITIZE, MAKE SURE WE'RE TAKING CARE OF OUR CITIZENS FIRST.

AND THEN IN THE EVENT, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW IT APPEARS THAT WE'RE COVERING, BASED ON WHAT YOU'VE PRESENTED TONIGHT, THAT WE'RE COVERING ALL THE CALLS THAT WE THAT WE ARE WITH THREE AMBULANCES AND THE FOURTH IS JUST THERE ON STANDBY IN THE EVENT THAT WE NEED IT ON THOSE RARE OCCASIONS.

BUT AS WE GROW AND IF CALL VOLUME INCREASES, IF WE ARE ALREADY RUNNING THAT FOURTH AMBULANCE ON A CONTINUAL BASIS, THEN MAYBE IT MAKES SENSE TO LOOK AT THOSE TRANSPORTS.

BUT I JUST DIDN'T.

I WAS APPRECIATIVE THAT WE ROLLED THOSE BACK SO THAT, YOU KNOW, AT THE BEGINNING, WE CAN HAVE TRUE NUMBERS AND KNOW WHAT WE'RE WORKING WITH BEFORE.

WE'RE LOOKING AT THE COST OF HIRING BACK.

AND THE COST THAT IT IS ON ALL OF THOSE STAFF MEMBERS THAT HAVE TO DO THAT.

SO KUDOS TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT FOR TAKING THIS INITIATIVE ON AND DOING IT SO WELL.

I'VE HEARD NOTHING BUT GREAT THINGS ABOUT THE RESPONSE TIME AND THE TREATMENT OF OUR CITIZENS.

SO THANK YOU BFD.

THANK YOU. I'M ENCOURAGED WITH THE CHANGE BECAUSE, LIKE LIKE WHAT'S BEEN SAID NOW WHEN WE'RE NET ZERO, WE'RE OR WE'RE LEVEL ZERO, WE FILL IT WITH OUR OWN AMBULANCE.

BECAUSE WHEN THIS THING FIRST GOT STARTED, I'M THINKING, ARE WE GOING TO NEED A FIFTH AMBULANCE? AND WE JUST I DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE TO HEAD DOWN THAT PATH.

SO THE DATA IS ENCOURAGING.

AND I THINK THE OVERTIME SAVINGS WOULD PROBABLY IS GOING TO BE A VALID PART OF THE EQUATION AS WELL.

SO AND I'M SURE THE THE FIREFIGHTERS ARE HAPPY THEY'RE NOT HAVING TO DO OVERTIME AS MUCH.

SO BUT IT'S NICE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT IN OUR BACK POCKET.

AND AGAIN, ALSO AND THANKS TO CAREFLIGHT FOR HELP STEPPING UP AND FILLING IN.

SO I THINK THE THE TREND IS VERY POSITIVE.

[02:15:01]

BUT I THINK LIKE LIKE I MENTIONED IN DECEMBER, YOU KNOW, MAYBE ANOTHER UPDATE HERE IN A FEW MONTHS JUST TO KIND OF SEE HOW THINGS ARE GOING.

YES. AND WE'RE WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH FINANCE AND HARLAN AND JOHN ON MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE GOOD NUMBERS AND GOOD DATA IN THAT MONTHLY FINANCIAL REPORT FOR YOU, SO THAT WE CAN SEE THAT ON A MONTH TO MONTH BASIS.

AND AS SOON AS THOSE THAT THAT DATA STARTS ROLLING IN, WE'LL WE'LL UPDATE ON ALL OF THAT AS WELL.

SO THEY'VE BEEN EXCELLENT TO WORK WITH AS WELL AS WE TRY TO NAVIGATE THROUGH THIS NEW SERVICE THAT WE'RE PROVIDING.

THANK YOU. NEXT UP MAYOR AND COUNCIL IS EIGHT C. THIS IS TO RECEIVE A REPORT HOLD A DISCUSSION REGARDING THE CITY'S CONTRACT WITH FOCUS ADVOCACY.

[8.C.Receive a report and hold a discussion regarding the city’s contract with Focused Advocacy. (Staff Presenter: Matt Ribitzki, Senior Deputy City Attorney)]

COUNCIL I AM NOT MATT RIBITZKI, BUT I WILL DO MY BEST TO NAVIGATE THIS PRESENTATION AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE REGARDING FOCUS ADVOCACY.

SO FROM A BACKGROUND PERSPECTIVE, CITY COUNCIL HAS SIGNED A THREE YEAR CONTRACT BEGINNING IN DECEMBER OF 2020.

WHAT WE'VE DONE AS A PRACTICE IS BRING THOSE RENEWALS BACK TO CITY COUNCIL ANNUALLY, EVERY 12 MONTHS, FOR COUNCIL TO APPROVE THOSE.

IN TERMS OF DELIVERY, WHAT FOCUSED ADVOCACY PROVIDES THE CITY IS WE MEET WITH THEM BI WEEKLY.

WE HAVE CLEARING HOUSE CALLS.

AND THEY KIND OF GIVE US AN IN-DEPTH LOOK AT THE LEGISLATURE, WHAT'S HAPPENING.

THEY TAKE THE THOUSANDS OF BILLS THAT ARE FILED EVERY YEAR AND KIND OF CATER THAT TO HOW IT IMPACTS CITIES GOOD, BAD, UGLY.

AND THEN THEY DELIVER THAT TO US THROUGH THESE CLEARINGHOUSE CALLS.

THEY'VE ASSISTED THE CITY PREPARING TO TESTIFY IN THE PAST.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, THEY SUPPLIES TO THE WEEKLY EMAIL.

I THINK A LOT OF YOU GUYS ARE PROBABLY ACCUSTOMED TO SEEING THOSE EMAILS IN THE FRIDAY REPORT.

WE'LL SEND THOSE OUT WHEN THE LEGISLATURE IS IN SESSION TO KIND OF FINE TUNE AGAIN, THE THOUSANDS OF BILLS THAT ARE FILED TO HAVE KIND OF MORE OF A TAILORED APPROACH TO HOW IT AFFECTS THE CITY OF BURLESON.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, THEY PROVIDE TIMELINES ON BILLS AS THEY'RE IN COMMITTEE, COME OUT OF COMMITTEES, ARE MOVING THROUGH THE HOUSE AND SENATE IN TERMS OF THEIR THEIR PROGRESS THROUGH THAT, CONTRACTUALLY.

AND THE PURPOSE OF THIS PRESENTATION TONIGHT IS TO RECEIVE GUIDANCE FROM CITY COUNCIL IN TERMS OF NEXT STEPS.

SO FOCUSED ADVOCACY HAS THE OPTION TO PROVIDE A LIMITED SCOPE CONTRACT OR FULL SERVICE CONTRACT.

HISTORICALLY WE HAVE USED THE LIMITED SERVICE CONTRACT.

WHAT THAT MEANS BASICALLY IS WHEN WE CALL, THEY PICK UP THE PHONE.

WE ASKED VERY TECHNICAL, GRANULAR QUESTIONS ABOUT VERY SPECIFIC ITEMS. THEY GIVE US DETAILS ABOUT THOSE, WE SUMMARIZE THOSE AND USE IT TO COMMUNICATE BACK TO COUNCIL OR TO MAKE DECISIONS ADMINISTRATIVELY.

WE DO THAT THROUGH THE CLEARINGHOUSE CALLS.

WE DO IT AS NEEDED, THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF THE YEAR.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, THEY COME TO CITY COUNCIL ANNUALLY AND KIND OF GIVE A HIGH LEVEL, EXECUTIVE SUMMARY, TO CITY COUNCIL ON, THE LEGISLATURE, THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN IN SESSION AND KIND OF THE HAPPENINGS THAT ARE GOING ON IN AUSTIN.

SO KIND OF THE TWO DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE FULL SERVICE AND LIMITED SERVICE.

THE LIMITED SERVICE IS MUCH MORE OF A REACTIVE SERVICE, WHICH IS WHAT WE HAVE HAD SINCE 2020.

THE FULL LEVEL SERVICE IS MUCH MORE OF A PROACTIVE LEVEL OF SERVICE.

THE FULL SCOPE CONTRACT WOULD POTENTIALLY ENABLE THE CITY TO ENHANCE THEIR POSTURE WITH INITIATIVES.

WHENEVER THE LEGISLATURE IS IN SESSION, THEY WOULD BROKER MEETINGS, CITY COUNCIL, EXECUTIVE STAFF, WHOEVER GOES TO AUSTIN TO BE OUR POINT OF CONTACT THERE IN TERMS OF THE FULL SERVICE CONTRACT WITH OUR LEGISLATIVE PROGRAM, THEY WOULD HELP US CATER THOSE INITIATIVES, PERHAPS SPEAKING ON OUR BEHALF AND COMMITTEES OR WHATEVER THEY MAY BE, IF THERE'S LEGISLATION THAT IS AGREEING WITH OUR PROGRAM OR OPPOSING, THEY WOULD TAKE A MUCH BROADER STANCE REPRESENTING THE CITY THROUGH THOSE PROCESSES, OBVIOUSLY, MONITORING LEGISLATION ON OUR BEHALF AND PROVIDE GENERAL GUIDANCE AS NEEDED THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF THE YEAR AS THEY HAVE IN THE PAST.

WHAT I WILL SAY, ONE OF THE BIGGEST.

YES. SORRY, I THOUGHT YOU RAISED YOUR HAND.

ONE OF THE BIGGEST DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE FULL SERVICE AND LIMITED SERVICE CONTRACT IS, IS SIMPLY BECAUSE YOU OFFER MORE SERVICES DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN YOU'RE GOING TO YIELD DIFFERENT RESULTS.

IT JUST MEANS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE MUCH MORE PROACTIVE, MUCH MORE RESPONSE TO THE CITY IN TERMS OF OUR LEGISLATIVE INITIATIVES IN SESSION.

TO THAT END, FROM A COSTING PERSPECTIVE, THE LIMITED SCOPE CONTRACT IS A LITTLE LESS THAN $50,000 A YEAR.

AND THE FULL SERVICE CONTRACT IS AROUND $108,000 FOR A 12 MONTH SERVICE.

AND SO THE PURPOSE OF THE REPORT TONIGHT IS TO RECEIVE FEEDBACK FROM FROM COUNCIL.

OUR CURRENT CONTRACT HAS EXPIRED IN DECEMBER OF 2023 WHEN IT TERMED OUT.

AND SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR FEEDBACK IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO RENEW A CONTRACT WITH FOCUS ADVOCACY AND IF SO, IN WHAT CAPACITY, WHETHER THE LIMITED SCOPE OR FULL SCOPE CONTRACT . WHAT HAVE WE HAD IN THE PAST?

[02:20:01]

WHAT'S YOUR OPINION? YOU THINK WE'D UTILIZE THE FULL SERVICE? WELL, I THINK ON THE LIMITED SERVICE CONTRACT, IF COUNCIL WANTED TO HAVE A DIFFERENT STANCE, IF THEY WANTED TO BE MORE PROACTIVE WITH LEGISLATIVE INITIATIVES, WE CAN DO THAT UNDER THE LIMITED SERVICE CONTRACT.

IF THERE ARE OTHER THINGS OUTSIDE OF THAT THAT THE COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO SEE, CERTAINLY WE CAN LOOK AT DOING THE FULL SERVICE CONTRACT.

ANYBODY. I THINK WE ALL AGREE THAT THE LAST TWO, AT LEAST, SESSIONS IN AUSTIN, HAVE RESULTED IN LEGISLATION THAT IS VERY, BAD FOR OUR CITY AND HAS TAKEN AWAY OUR AUTHORITY TO GOVERN OURSELVES, TO, HAVE INFLUENCE IN THE AREA AROUND OUR, OUR CITY.

AND WE I FEEL LIKE WE'RE IN A STATE OF BATTLE, ALMOST TO TRY TO FIGHT FOR OUR OWN RIGHTS.

AND I CERTAINLY WOULD NOT BE, IN FAVOR OF AN IDEA OF LIMITING THAT IF WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO MORE TO PROTECT OUR OWN INTERESTS IN AUSTIN, THEN I WOULD SUPPORT DOING IT.

AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH EFFECT IT WILL HAVE, PERHAPS NONE, BUT DOING NOTHING WILL DEFINITELY HAVE NO EFFECT, AND I WOULD SUPPORT GOING TO A FULL SERVICE CONTRACT AND SPENDING A LOT MORE TIME AND ATTENTION TRYING TO LOOK OUT FOR OUR BEST INTERESTS THERE.

AUSTIN IS DIFFERENT, DEFINITELY DIFFERENT.

WE'RE SEEING STUFF NOW THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.

THESE CONTRACTS, IS IT IS IT A THREE YEAR CONTRACT OR IT'S A ONE YEAR THAT CAN BE RENEWED, I GUESS TWICE? THAT'S JUST WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST.

I MEAN, WE CAN NEGOTIATE WITH THEM.

IF COUNCILS DESIRE TO DO A ONE YEAR CONTRACT, TWO YEAR TERMS, I THINK THE TERMS ARE SOMEWHAT FLEXIBLE WITH THEM.

IT'S JUST WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST.

WOULD WE HAVE THE OPTION? LET'S SAY WE'RE GOING TO GO FULL SERVICE BECAUSE NEXT YEAR IS A LEGISLATIVE SESSION.

AND THEN WOULD WE HAVE THE OPTION TO DIAL IT BACK TO A LIMITED SERVICE IF WE DIDN'T THINK THAT WE GOT OUR BEST BANG FOR OUR BUCK AT THAT POINT? WE CAN CERTAINLY ASK THEM TO EXPLORE THAT.

I MEAN, I THINK LIKE WHAT MAYOR PRO TEM SAID, I MEAN, WE'VE GOT TO BE MORE PROACTIVE NOW.

AND IN FACT, AMANDA, GET THE BUS READY BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO SESSION NEXT YEAR.

SO WE'RE GOING WE'RE GOING TO START DOING WE'RE GOING TO START DOING THAT AGAIN.

SO I MEAN I'M ALL FOR IT.

WE NEED TO START SHOWING UP AND ADVOCATING FOR OUR CITY, AND LOCAL CONTROL.

SO I MEAN I'M, I'M ALL FOR THE FULL SERVICE.

IF WE COULD FIGURE OUT MAYBE NEGOTIATE SOME WHERE WE COULD DIAL IT BACK IF WE DON'T FEEL LIKE WE'RE NOT GETTING WHAT WE'RE NEEDING, BUT NEVER KNOW TILL WE TRY.

RIGHT. EXACTLY.

ANYBODY ELSE? I AGREE WITH THAT SENTIMENT BECAUSE THEY'RE THE LAST TWO SESSIONS, AS MAYOR PRO TEM SAID, HAVE BEEN THERE HAVE BEEN SOME SERIOUSLY DETRIMENTAL THINGS COME OUT THAT AFFECT HOW WE'RE ABLE TO MAKE DECISIONS.

AND IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE KEEP OUR LOCAL CONTROL BECAUSE WE'RE THE MOST ACCOUNTABLE TO THE PEOPLE.

WE'RE RIGHT HERE, AND WE'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM YOU IF SOMETHING WORKS OR IT DOESN'T WORK.

AND, AND I KNOW WE'RE ALREADY HEARING RUMBLINGS OF THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO BE LOOKED AT IN THIS NEXT SESSION THAT WILL THAT WILL IMPACT CITIES. AND SO IF WE CAN BE MORE IN TUNE WITH HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND KNOWING WHEN IS APPROPRIATE FOR US TO BE PROACTIVE, AS ADAM SAID, I THINK THERE'S SEVERAL OF US THAT WOULD BE WILLING TO GO DOWN AND VISIT WITH LEGISLATORS AND BE MORE INVOLVED AND HANDS ON SO THAT WE'RE FIGHTING FOR OUR CITIZENS.

THIS IS ALSO IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT IF WE GO WITH THIS, THEY CAN ALSO DIRECT US WHO TO GO TALK TO, RIGHT? YES, SIR. THAT'S CORRECT.

THERE WOULD BE OUR POINT OF CONTACT IN AUSTIN FOR ALL PURPOSES.

SO WE NEED TO DO IT.

WHAT DO Y'ALL THINK, LARRY? YEAH, RIGHT. YEAH.

ABSOLUTELY. AGREE.

WE HAVE TO BE REPRESENTED.

WE'VE GONE DOWN THIS ROAD.

SCHOOL DOES THE SAME THING THEY REPRESENTED.

SO YEAH I'M HIGHLY FOR IT.

THERE YOU GO. NICE JOB MATT.

THANK YOU. FULL DISCLOSURE, WE WORKED THIS OUT BEFOREHAND.

JUSTIN AND I. THAT BRINGS US TO SECTION NINE CITY COUNCIL REQUEST FOR FUTURE ITEMS AND REPORTS.

[9.CITY COUNCIL REQUESTS AND FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS AND REPORTS]

THAT BRINGS US TO SECTION TEN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

[10.RECESS INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION]

THEY WILL MEET PURSUANT TO SECTION 551.071 AND 551.087.

IS THERE A MOTION TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION? MOTION. A MOTION BY ADAM.

A SECOND BY DAN. PLEASE VOTE.

[02:25:04]

WE'RE GOING TO EXECUTIVE SESSION AT 7:55.

PLEASE VOTE. HURRY UP, DAN! PASSES UNANIMOUS.

WE'RE BACK IN SESSION AT 9:16.

MAYOR, WE HAVE NO OTHER ITEMS FOR CONSIDERATION.

THANK YOU. IS THERE A MOTION TO CONVENE? EXCELLENT. WE'RE OUT OF HERE AT 9:16.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.