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I'M GOING TO OPEN THE SESSION UP AT 5:30.
[1. CALL TO ORDER]
UH, TONIGHT WE HAVE THE WORLD FAMOUS STACY SINGLETON GOING TO SAY THE INVOCATION FOR US.WOULD EVERYBODY PLEASE RISE FOR OUR PLEDGES AND OUR PRAYER? SHALL WE PRAY? OUR MOST GRACIOUS HEAVENLY FATHER, WE COME TO YOU TODAY FIRST OFF TO TELL YOU WE LOVE YOU AND WE THANK YOU.
WE THANK YOU FOR THE MANY BLESSINGS YOU'VE GIVEN, EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US, FOR THE MANY BLESSINGS YOU'VE GIVEN OUR FINE CITY, AND FOR THE BLESSINGS YOU'VE GIVEN THESE MEN AND WOMEN THAT SERVE OUR CITY UPON THE COUNCIL.
FATHER, WE ALSO PRAY FOR ALL THE EMPLOYEES OF THE CITY AS THEY DO AN OUTSTANDING JOB.
BE WITH THEM AS THEY GO THROUGH THEIR DAY TO DAY TASK, AND JUST WATCH OVER THEM AND KEEP THEM SAFE.
FATHER, WE ASK THAT YOU GO WITH US THROUGH THIS MEETING.
LET THE RIGHT DECISIONS BE MADE.
AND FATHER, LET THOSE THAT ARE PRESENTING DO A GREAT JOB AND JUST GIVE THEIR POINTS.
FATHER, THANK YOU FOR OUR CITY.
THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO.
AMEN. IS IT STILL ALIVE? THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.
ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
ARTIFACTS LIKE OTHER JESUS TO BE TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE INDIVISIBLE.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
THAT BRINGS US TO SECTION TWO PUBLIC PRESENTATIONS.
WE HAVE NO PROCLAMATIONS THIS EVENING.
[2.C.Community Interest Items]
MADAM MAYOR.UH, MANY, MANY, MANY KUDOS FROM PEOPLE THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY.
I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE GREATEST CHANGES WE'VE MADE.
THANK YOU. I'D LIKE TO THANK THE STAFF FOR THE SANTA BREAKFAST.
WE WENT OUT THERE AND SPENT SOME TIME THAT MORNING WITH SANTA CLAUS AND THE GRINCH.
UH, THE MAYOR. I WANT TO THANK HIM.
HE SPENT SIX HOURS WAITING ON TABLES.
DID A GREAT JOB OF KEEPING THE FOOD GOING.
THANK YOU. WENT TO RUSSELL FARM LIGHT SHOW.
ALSO WENT TO THE SENIOR CITIZENS CRAFTS SHOW AND SALE, AND IT WAS ALSO GREAT SINCE I'M ONE OF THEM, I REALLY DID ENJOY IT.
I HAD THREE GRANDSONS COME OVER FROM MIDLOTHIAN AND JUST ENJOYED THE HECK OUT OF THAT.
IT WAS GREAT. AND ALL THE WORKERS THAT BEHIND THE SCENES ON THAT CHRISTMAS PARADE DID A FANTASTIC JOB AT, UH, CHIEF CORDELL, OUR NEW, UH, TV CELEBRITY.
THANKS. I WANT TO MAKE A PLUG FOR SOMETHING NEW THAT WE ARE LAUNCHING COME JANUARY.
WE ARE INTRODUCING BURLESON 101 CIVIC ACADEMY, AND I WANT TO ENCOURAGE CITIZENS FROM OUR COMMUNITY TO APPLY OR REALLY JUST PUT YOUR NAME IN THE HAT. THERE WILL BE, UM, THERE WILL BE A CUT OFF.
SO APPLY SOON SO WE CAN YOU CAN SNAP ONE OF THOSE SEATS.
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THERE WILL BE PRESENTATIONS FROM EVERY DEPARTMENT, INCLUDING CITY COUNCIL.AND SO REALLY ENCOURAGE ANY CITIZEN AND ALL CITIZENS TO PARTICIPATE IN OUR CIVIC ACADEMY.
AND, UH, THAT KIND OF PLANNING DOESN'T HAPPEN OVERNIGHT.
AND I ALWAYS DO IT WITH A SMILE.
EVEN THE MISTAKES GET TO BE FUN.
SO AND I MAKE A LOT OF THEM, SO IT WORKS OUT REALLY GOOD.
I APPRECIATE BURLESON ALL TOGETHER.
MAYOR. COUNCIL. THAT BRINGS US TO SECTION THREE.
THREE A ARE ITEMS TO BE CONTINUED OR WITHDRAWN? THREE B IS ITEMS TO BE WITHDRAWN FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR SEPARATE DISCUSSION BY THE CITY COUNCIL STAFF OR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC IN ATTENDANCE, OR ITEMS TO BE ADDED TO THE CONSENT AGENDA WHICH REQUIRE AN OFFICIAL VOTE BY THE CITY COUNCIL.
MADAM SECRETARY, I'D ASK THAT WE REMOVE CONSENT ITEMS FIVE L THROUGH W FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA.
[3.B.Items to be withdrawn from the Consent Agenda for separate discussion by the City Council, staff, or members of the public in attendance. Items to be added to the Consent Agenda require an official vote by the City Council.]
IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO REMOVE AN ITEM FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR SEPARATE DISCUSSION? IS THERE A MOTION ON THAT THAT DOES NOT REQUIRE NO, ONLY TO ADD IT.RIGHT. ONLY TO ADD, NOT TO REMOVE.
OKAY. WE NEED A MOTION TO REMOVE OR NOT TO REMOVE.
JUST VOTE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
OKEYDOKE. OKAY, SO WE'RE READY FOR A VOTE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
NO. SO WE'RE GOING TO GO ON TO SECTION FOUR CITIZENS APPEARANCE I APOLOGIZE.
NO. THAT'S OKAY. WE KIND OF JUMBLED UP THIS THIS BEGINNING PART.
SO THAT MOVES US ON TO SECTION FOUR CITIZENS APPEARANCE.
A SPEAKER CARD MUST BE FILLED OUT AND TURNED INTO THE CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE.
EACH SPEAKER WILL BE ALLOWED THREE MINUTES TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL, EACH PERSON IN ATTENDANCE WHO DESIRES TO SPEAK TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON AN ITEM THAT IS POSTED ON THE AGENDA SHALL SPEAK WHEN THE ITEM IS CALLED FORWARD FOR CONSIDERATION.
IS THERE ANY. DO I HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS FOR CITIZENS APPEARANCE? I HAVE A SPEAKER CARD, BUT IT DOESN'T.
NO, IT DOESN'T NOTE IF IT'S FOR AN ITEM OR NOT.
DEREK, IS THIS FOR AN ITEM POSTED ON THE AGENDA? OH, YES. YES.
OKAY. I HAVE NO OTHER SPEAKER CARDS THAT ARE FOR CITIZENS APPEARANCE.
THAT'LL MOVE US ON AT THIS TIME.
[10. RECESS INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION (Part 1 of 2)]
THERE IS A NEED FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION.SO PURSUANT TO SECTION FIVE FIVE, I'M SORRY, CHAPTER FIVE FIVE, ONE OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, THE CITY COUNCIL WILL CONVENE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION. THIS IS PURSUANT TO SECTION 551.071.
IS THERE A MOTION TO MOVE TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION? MOTION TO GO TO EXECUTE.
I HAVE A MOTION BY ADAM A SECOND TO VICTORIA.
WE'RE GOING INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AT 539.
MAYOR, IF YOU COULD CALL FOR A MOTION TO RECONVENE INTO OPEN SESSION, PLEASE.
IS THERE A MOTION TO RECONVENE? SO MOVED. SECOND.
A SECOND BY RONNY. PLEASE VOTE.
PASSES UNANIMOUS. WE'RE BACK IN SESSION AT 558.
THAT BRINGS US TO SECTION FIVE, THE CONSENT AGENDA.
[5.CONSENT AGENDA]
TONIGHT THE CONSENT AGENDA IS LISTED FIVE A THROUGH FIVE W.HOWEVER, WE HAVE REMOVED ITEMS FIVE L THROUGH FIVE W FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA.
SO THE CONSENT AGENDA THIS EVENING IS FIVE A THROUGH FIVE K.
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SO ALL ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA THAT REMAIN ON THE CONSENT AGENDA WILL BE CONSIDERED BY THE CITY COUNCIL AND WILL BE ENACTED WITH ONE MOTION.THERE WILL BE NO SEPARATE DISCUSSION ON THESE ITEMS. APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA AUTHORIZES THE CITY MANAGER TO IMPLEMENT EACH ITEM IN ACCORDANCE WITH STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS.
MAYOR, IF YOU COULD ASK FOR A MOTION ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, WHICH CURRENTLY SAYS FIVE A THROUGH FIVE K, IS THERE A MOTION ON THIS? SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION BY DAN.
A SECOND BY ADAM. PLEASE VOTE.
[Items 5.L - 5.W]
THANK YOU, MADAM SECRETARY.UH, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, AS I HAVE PREVIOUSLY ADVISED YOU, THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IS JOINING WITH THE TEXAS CITY ATTORNEYS ASSOCIATION IN AN OMNIBUS RECOMMENDATION THAT WE DENY ANY PETITIONS BROUGHT PURSUANT TO HOUSE BILL 2038.
AS YOU MAY RELATED SESSION, THE HOUSE ADOPTED OR THE BOTH LEGISLATIVE BODIES ULTIMATELY ADOPTED.
SENATE. PARDON ME, SENATE BILL 2038, WHICH ALLOWED AN INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY OWNER OR A GROUP OF PROPERTY OWNERS, PROVIDED THEY WERE 50% OF THE OWNERS, OR 50% OF THE RESIDENTS OF AN AREA THAT OWNED OR WAS OCCUPYING PROPERTY WITHIN THE EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION OF A CITY TO REQUEST RELEASE FROM THE EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION.
BUT THEN, OF COURSE, AS THESE THINGS HAPPEN AND LEGISLATIVE ISSUES BEGIN TO BE ANALYZED BY THE DIFFERENT JURISPRUDENTIAL RESEARCH GROUPS, IT BECAME OBVIOUS THAT SENATE BILL 2038 HAD A NUMBER OF MAJOR ISSUES THAT HAD NOT BEEN RESOLVED THE TEXAS CONSTITUTION AND THE TEXAS SUPREME COURT CASES, INTERPRETING THAT CONSTITUTION HAVE FOR GENERATIONS HELD THAT THE ESTABLISHMENT OF BOUNDARIES FOR EITHER GOVERNMENTAL CONTROL OR GOVERNMENTAL REGULATIONS, OR ACTS OF SOVEREIGNTY THAT CAN ONLY BE UNDERTAKEN BY A LEGISLATIVE BODY, ONLY AN ELECTED LEGISLATIVE BODY CAN ALTER THESE BOUNDARIES.
WHAT SENATE BILL 2038 DID? IS IT TRANSFERRED THAT AUTHORITY TO ONE OR MORE PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS, WHO SIMPLY HAD TO REQUEST IT IN WRITING, AND WHETHER THE LOCAL LEGISLATIVE BODY AGREED OR NOT? IT HAPPENED BY OPERATION OF LAW.
THAT IS A DIRECT VIOLATION OF THE DELEGATION OF SOVEREIGNTY AS SET FORTH IN THE TEXAS CONSTITUTION, AND IT VIOLATES THE DOCTRINE OF SEPARATION OF POWERS, IS THERE IS NO NOTICE OR REVIEW BY ANY OTHER BODY.
THAT IS A SIGNIFICANT JURISPRUDENTIAL HURDLE TO THIS STATUTE.
IN ADDITION TO WHICH, THE LEGISLATURE CREATED THE NEW RULE AS SECTION 42.105 OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE, BUT THEY LEFT IN PLACE AND DID NOT REMOVE SECTION 42.023 OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE.
THE ETJ MAY ONLY BE RELEASED OR ALTERED BY ACTIONS OF THE LOCAL LEGISLATIVE BODY.
THAT IS THE EXCLUSIVE METHOD FOR CHANGING IT.
SO WE HAD SECTION 023 AND SECTION 105 IN DIRECT CONFLICT, AS ONE OF THE JUDICIAL SCHOLARS WHO LOOKED AT IT AND SAID, WE SEEM TO FIND OURSELVES IN A SITUATION OF POROUS MATERIAL, WHICH ONE OF MY YOUNG LAWYERS LOOKED AT ME IN A MEETING AND SAID, BOSS, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? SHE WENT TO SCHOOL IN A DAY AND AGE WHEN LATIN WASN'T REQUIRED, AND I SAID, IN SIMPLEST TERMS, TO GET IT OUT OF THE THE JURISPRUDENCE WORLD PARTY MATERIAL MEANS YOU HAVE CREATED A SITUATION WHERE TWO DIFFERENT AIRPLANES ARE ATTEMPTING TO LAND ON THE SAME RUNWAY FROM TWO OPPOSITE DIRECTIONS AT THE SAME TIME, A SITUATION YOU WANT TO AVOID.
WE HAVE DIRECT STATUTORY CONFLICT WHERE THEY CANNOT BE RECONCILED.
IN ADDITION TO WHICH UNDER 2038, IF 51% OF THE RESIDENTS OF AN AREA WANTED TO BE REMOVED FROM THE
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ETJ, THEY COULD SIMPLY FILE THE PETITION, AND THE OTHER 49% OF THE RESIDENTS WERE AUTOMATICALLY REMOVED, WHETHER THEY WANTED TO BE OR NOT, WITHOUT NOTICE OR AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD.IF YOU REMOVE FROM THE ETJ, YOU LOSE THE ABILITY TO HAVE CERTAIN LEVELS OF PUBLIC SERVICES, SOME FORMS OF POLICE, FIRE, PUBLIC SERVICE PROTECTIONS OR RESPONSES BECAUSE OF JURISDICTIONAL BOUNDARY ISSUES.
OBVIOUSLY THAT IS A TREATMENT OF PROPERTY IN A DISSIMILAR MANNER.
UNTIL THE COURTS ARE THE LEGISLATURE, IN THEIR INFINITE WISDOM, CLARIFY EXACTLY WHAT THIS MEANS.
THE PURPOSE OF THE EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION BOUNDARY IS TO ALLOW THE CITY TO PLAN FOR THE LOGICAL EXTENSION OF ROADWAYS, WATER LINES, SEWER LINES, AND STORMWATER SYSTEMS. WE DO NOT REGULATE LAND USE IN THE ETJ.
WE ONLY REGULATE HOW WATER LINES, SEWER LINES, ROADS AND STORMWATER SYSTEMS ARE EXTENDED SO THEY ARE LOGICAL AND CONSISTENT AND AVOID DAMAGING ADJOINING PROPERTIES.
UNFORTUNATELY, I HAVE TO TELL YOU, THE COURTS ARE SLOW TO ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS AND WE MAY BE IN THIS SITUATION FOR SOME TIME TO COME, BUT CITIES ARE SURFACING IT ACROSS THE BOARD.
ONE OF OUR NEIGHBOR SORT OF NEIGHBORING CITIES, GRAND PRAIRIE, HAS ALREADY BROUGHT SUIT AGAINST THE STATE OF TEXAS TO INVALIDATE THIS BILL, AND THEY ARE IN COURT IN TRAVIS COUNTY.
ANY QUESTIONS? IS THERE A MOTION ON THIS TO CLARIFY? IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM, SINCE WE HAD IT LISTED AT CONSENT? THAT POWER LED THE WAY IN SOUTH BOSTON.
MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE THIS EVENING.
JUST AS A POINT OF CLARIFICATION FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY IN TERMS OF THE 45 DAY RULE, IN TERMS OF THE MINISTERIAL ACTION THAT'S ABOUT TO TAKE PLACE, WHAT ARE THE IMPLICATIONS OF THAT RULE BASED ON THE STATUTE THAT'S CURRENTLY IN PLACE? WHAT WHAT WE HAVE ADVISED MAYOR AND COUNCIL IS THAT IF COURTS ULTIMATELY DETERMINE THAT SENATE BILL 2038 IS VALID, ENFORCEABLE AND CONSTITUTIONAL, AND THEY FIND A WAY TO RECONCILE THAT, THEN THESE PROPERTIES WILL HAVE BEEN RELEASED FROM THE ETJ ON THE 45TH DAY AFTER THEY HAVE SUBMITTED THEIR PETITION.
SO IT DOES NOT NEGATIVELY IMPACT THEM IF THE COURTS SUSTAIN THAT THAT STATUTORY ENACTMENT.
OKAY. IF THE HIGHER COURT DOES SUSTAIN THE OPINION, THEN IS THERE A RETROACTIVE POSITION ON TERMS OF THE MUNICIPALITY TO RETROACTIVELY GO BACK AND TAKE CARE OF SOME OF THE CASES THAT HAVE BEEN ALREADY APPROVED? IF A CITY HAS ALREADY APPROVED AN EGG WITHDRAWAL BASED UPON OUR BEST ASSESSMENT AT THIS TIME, ABSENT SOME OTHER LEGISLATIVE ACT, THE AREA IS RELEASED FROM THE ETJ.
ANOTHER QUESTION THAT'S GOING TO ARISE.
AND YOU WILL. YOU WILL SEE THIS CONVERSATION OCCUR.
A NUMBER OF PIECES OF PROPERTY IN OUR EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION ENTERED INTO DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS UNDER TWO DIFFERENT PROVISIONS OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE.
THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS ALLOWED A PROPERTY OWNER TO BE FREE FROM ANNEXATION FOR A PERIOD OF TIME,
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UP TO 15 YEARS.AND MANY PROPERTY OWNERS IN THE ETJ SIGNED DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS WITH THE CITY.
THOSE ARE EXECUTORY CONTRACTUAL COMMITMENTS.
AND IF THE CITY PERFORMED AND DID NOT ANNEX UNDER THOSE AGREEMENTS, THEN THERE IS A CONSTITUTIONAL CONTRACT PROVISION THAT STATES THAT THE STATE LEGISLATURE WILL NOT ENACT A STATUTE TO INVALIDATE A BINDING EXECUTORY CONTRACT.
SO THEREFORE, PROPERTIES THAT HAVE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS THAT WERE PROPERLY EXECUTED AND SIGNED ARE IN ALL PROBABILITY UNDER ANY CONSTRUCTION NOT GOING TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR RELEASE FROM THE ETJ.
OKAY, I KNOW THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME MORE POINTS OF CLARIFICATION AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
AND I'M ASKING THIS BECAUSE I MY PHONE'S BEEN OBVIOUSLY BLOWING UP, AND I'M TRYING TO GIVE PEOPLE THE BEST ADVICE I CAN POSSIBLY GIVE THEM IN TERMS OF THE LEGAL RAMIFICATIONS, THE TIMING OF, YOU KNOW, CERTAIN MATTERS AND AND OBVIOUSLY THE HIGHER COURT'S OPINIONS THAT ARE GOING TO BE RULED.
BUT SO I JUST WANTED TO, AS A POINT OF CLARIFICATION, THESE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT BEING DENIED, THEY'RE THE 45 DAY RULE IS NOT IN EFFECT.
MR. POWELL THAT THAT'S THE PROBLEM.
THE 45 DAY RULE IS CREATED BY THE STATUTE.
IT COMMENCED WHEN THEY FILED THEIR PETITION.
IF THE COURTS SUSTAIN THE CONSTITUTIONALITY OF 2038 ON ON THE 45TH DAY AFTER THEY SUBMITTED THEIR PETITION, THEY ARE NO LONGER IN THE ETJ.
BUT IF THE COURT DOES NOT SUSTAIN IT, THEN THEY THEY REMAIN IN THE EAG.
OKAY, SO SO WITHIN THIS 45 DAY WINDOW, EITHER THE STATE LEGISLATURE WITH WHICH MOVES, YOU KNOW, SLOWLY AND THE COURTS MOVE SLOW WITHIN THIS 45 DAYS, IF THERE'S NO ENACTMENT BY LEGISLATURE, LEGISLATIVE ACT OR JUDICIAL RENDERING OF OPINION, THEN WHAT'S ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT WILL BE RELEASED.
I THINK I'M GOING TO MAKE IT A SIMPLER.
OKAY. THEY ARE THESE TERRITORIES ARE GOING TO BE TREATED AS IF THEY'RE IN THE EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION BY THE CITY.
UNTIL SUCH TIME AS A COURT RULES ON THE CURRENT PETITION, WE'RE GOING TO ASSUME THEY'RE IN THE CITY. OKAY.
IT'S IT'S ONE OF THOSE IMPOSSIBLE SITUATIONS.
AND FOR THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WONDER WHY, WHY MR. POWELL AND I WORRY ABOUT THESE KINDS OF THINGS.
THERE ARE SOME BYZANTINE RULES THAT BITE EVERYBODY.
IT IS ILLEGAL FOR A PUBLICLY FRANCHISED UTILITY TO PROVIDE UTILITY SERVICE TO PROPERTY THAT IS NOT PROPERLY PLATTED UNDER STATE LAW. THAT'S FOUND IN CHAPTER 212 OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE.
YOU CAN'T BE PROPERLY PLATTED IF YOU'RE IN THE ETJ, UNLESS THE CITY HAS SIGNED OFF ON IT.
DO WE KNOW WHAT THE COURTS WILL DO WITH THIS? ABSOLUTELY. HAVE NO CLUE.
THE PROBLEM IS, THE LEGISLATURE WILL NOT MEET FOR BETTER PART OF ANOTHER TWO YEARS.
THE GOVERNOR COULD ADD THIS TO A SPECIAL SESSION CALL, BUT THAT'S UNLIKELY.
IT'S NOT ONE OF HIS PRIORITIES.
SO WE MAY HAVE TO WAIT TWO YEARS FOR THE LEGISLATURE TO TELL US WHAT THE NEW RULE IS.
ABSENT THAT, WE WILL HAVE TO GO TO TO THE AUSTIN COURT, THE INITIAL COURTS THAT ARE HEARING THIS IN TRAVIS COUNTY TO MAKE A THRESHOLD DECISION, THEN TO THE COURT OF APPEALS IN AUSTIN FOR THE INITIAL REVIEW, THEN TO THE TEXAS SUPREME COURT FOR A FINAL DECISION.
NO, I UNDERSTAND THAT, AND I APPRECIATE THE CLARIFICATION AND THE POINTS YOU'VE MADE.
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AND ONCE AGAIN, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.I KNOW THAT WHEN WE SERVED ON COUNCIL TOGETHER, THIS IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST IMPACTFUL PIECES OF LEGISLATION THAT'S GOING TO, UH, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THE THINGS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DELIBERATE ON, ARE THERE THE UTMOST IMPORTANCE.
AND AND I WISH THE BEST FOR EVERYBODY, AND I HOPE WE GET IT.
THANK YOU ALL. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON THIS ONE? IF YOU COULD JUST. THAT'S FINE.
IF YOU WOULD JUST STATE YOUR NAME.
JEFF TAYLOR WITH DUNAWAY LIVE AT 7616 WOOD WIND DRIVE.
UH, HERE BECAUSE WE WANTED TO DO A WAIVER BASICALLY TO GO THROUGH PRECINCT THREE TO DO THEIR ROADWAY DESIGN, WE OUR DESIRE WAS TO DO A COUNTY ROADWAY SECTION VERY SIMILAR TO THE CLIFFWOOD SUBDIVISION.
IT SOUNDS LIKE TONIGHT, THIS MAY OR MAY NOT BE AN OPTION, BUT OUR REAL DESIRE IS TO DO.
AND WE'VE ALREADY DONE PLANS THROUGH THE CITY, UM, THAT ARE READY FOR APPROVAL.
WE'D HAVE BETHESDA WATER WITH SEPTIC SYSTEMS. SO OUR ISSUE IS, IS WE REALLY DON'T NEED CITY PROVIDED UTILITIES IN THIS AREA.
SO MY QUESTION IS, I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL COULD CONSIDER THAT ONE CASE.
UM, AGAIN, DON'T HAVE ANY DISTASTE FOR THE CITY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
WE'RE JUST TRYING TO DO A SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISION, AND WE'D LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH COUNTY ROADWAY SECTIONS WITH THEIR, YOU KNOW, STANDARDS, AND THEN THEY WOULD ALSO TAKE OVER AND MAINTAIN THOSE AS WELL.
WE'RE GOING TO TREAT IT AS IF IT'S A SUBDIVISION WITHIN THE EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION.
WE WOULD PREFER TO PUT IN A DIFFERENT KIND OF ROAD SECTION FOR THESE REASONS AND SET IT OUT.
AND THE CITY HAS THE AUTHORITY TO APPROVE IT.
RIGHT? I MEAN, THE SIMPLE THING IS GO THROUGH THE CITY PROCESS AND JUST REQUEST THE WAIVERS.
AND THE CITY HAS NEVER BEEN ARBITRARY OR DIFFICULT ABOUT DOING IT.
IF THERE IS A GOOD CAUSE SHOWN TO TO MAKE A CHANGE, WE JUST CAN'T.
WE COULDN'T DO IT TONIGHT BECAUSE THE PLAT IS NOT IN FRONT OF THERE.
IT'S ONLY AN ETJ RELEASE THAT WE HAVE NO NOTICE.
WE DON'T HAVE AN AGENDA ITEM TO CONSIDER IT.
OKAY, BUT IF YOU GO THROUGH THE PROCESS, IT'S POSSIBLE TO GET WHAT YOU WANT, JUST NOT UNDER THIS AGENDA, RIGHT? I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS THE WAY WE WERE LED.
THANK YOU. I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
ON HOW IT WAS LED. I WAS ONE OF THE ONES THAT SAID IT.
PUT IT ON YOUR FORM AND WE'LL PASS IT.
AND WE GOT KIND OF BLINDSIDED THE LAST DAY OR SO ON THIS.
SO WE WILL INFORM PROPERLY I APPRECIATE THAT.
I GOT A OWNER THAT'S PROBABLY NOT GOING TO BE VERY HAPPY WITH ME TONIGHT, SO THANK YOU.
YES. IF THERE'S NO OTHER SPEAKERS, THERE'S A SPEAKER.
MAKE A MOTION. OH, I'LL BE DOWN IN A SECOND.
HI, I'M MIKE ROONEY. I WAS JUST GOING TO FOLLOW UP ON MATT POLL'S QUESTIONS HERE.
IT'S A QUESTION FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY.
IS IT CURRENTLY IN FORCE AS OF TODAY? YES. THIS THE LAW.
THEY'RE UNDER THIS EXACT SAME LAW.
OKAY. THE REASON YOU SEE ME HESITATING IS YOU KEEP SAYING LAW.
OUR SUBDIVISION REGULATION ORDINANCE IS IN PLACE.
IF WHAT YOU'RE ASKING IS IF THERE WERE PROPERTIES THAT CAME FORWARD IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS AND REQUESTED RELEASE FROM THE ETJ, AND THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED THOSE REQUESTS FOR RELEASE, THEN THEY ARE NO LONGER IN THE ETJ AND THEY ARE NOT SUBJECT TO THE CITY'S SUBDIVISION REGULATION ORDINANCE.
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BUT WE ARE TAKING THE POSITION THAT SENATE BILL 2038 CANNOT BE ENFORCED THE WAY IT IS WRITTEN, UNTIL A COURT MANDATES THAT THEY HAVE FOUND A WAY TO MAKE IT CONSTITUTIONALLY ENFORCEABLE.YOU ARE CHALLENGING THAT BECAUSE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, THE BILL THAT IS CURRENTLY IN FORCE AS OF TODAY, THAT BILL IS CURRENTLY IN FORCE JUST AS 42.0023 IS, WHICH SAYS 42.105 CANNOT EXIST.
THEY ARE HEAD TO HEAD IN CONFLICT.
WE ARE SAYING WE'RE GOING WITH 2.3, NOT 1.05.
OKAY. BUT IT'S BEING CHALLENGED.
THAT'S THE ONLY QUESTION I HAD.
CURRENT CURRENT BILL IS IN FORCE AS OF TODAY.
THANK YOU. MAYOR AND COUNCIL BEFORE YOU.
NOW YOU HAVE ITEMS FIVE L THROUGH FIVE W.
TO PROTECT THE INTERESTS OF THE CITY OF BURLESON.
PUSH YOUR BUTTON. I NEED A SECOND.
I HAVE A MOTION BY DAN AND A SECOND BY LARRY.
UNANIMOUS. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM SECTION SIX DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS.
[6.A.113 N Dobson Street (Case 23-270): Hold a public hearing and consider approval of an ordinance for a zoning change request from “SF7”, Single-family dwelling district 7 to “CC”, Central Commercial for a 0.15 acre site. (First and Final Reading) (Staff Presenter: Emilio Sanchez, Development Services Assistant Director)(The Planning and Zoning Commission recommended approval by unanimous vote]
EXCUSE ME. SIX A IS 113 NORTH DOBSON STREET.TONIGHT'S TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER APPROVAL OF AN ORDINANCE FOR A ZONING CHANGE REQUEST FROM SF SEVEN SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING DISTRICT SEVEN TO CC CENTRAL COMMERCIAL FOR A 0.15 ACRE SITE.
THIS IS BEFORE CITY COUNCIL ON FIRST AND FINAL READING.
THE STAFF PRESENTED THIS EVENING IS EMILIO SANCHEZ, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ASSISTANT DIRECTOR.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
UH, FOR THE RECORD, EMILIO SANCHEZ, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ASSISTANT DIRECTOR.
THE REQUEST THAT'S BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS A ZONING CHANGE FOR 113 NORTH DOBSON.
UH, IT IS A 0.15 ACRE PIECE OF PROPERTY.
AND THE APPLICANT OWNER IS ANDREW MILLIMAN.
UH, JUST A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY ON THE PROPERTY.
UH, IT IS CURRENTLY ZONED SINGLE FAMILY SEVEN, UH, WHICH IS A 7000 MINIMUM SQUARE FOOT LOT DISTRICT.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY WAS PREVIOUSLY USED AS A RESIDENTIAL HOME UP UNTIL RECENT YEARS IT WAS VACANT.
THE CURRENT OWNER PURCHASED THE PROPERTY IN 2022, DID SOME RENOVATIONS WITH THE, UH, FINAL THOUGHTS THAT HE WOULD HAVE HIS BUSINESS OFFICE RUN OUT OF THIS LOCATION.
AND TO DO SO, HE IS REQUESTING THAT THE PROPERTY BE ZONED REZONE.
EXCUSE ME FROM SINGLE FAMILY SEVEN TO, UH, CENTRAL COMMERCIAL.
SO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATES THIS AREA AS OLD TOWN.
UH, THIS IS AGAIN IN THE OVERLAY DISTRICT.
I APOLOGIZE, I DIDN'T MENTION THAT EARLIER.
THE UNDERLYING ZONING IS SINGLE FAMILY.
UH, SEVEN, BUT IT IS IN OUR OLD TOWN OVERLAY DISTRICT AS WELL.
UH, THE NEWSPAPER HAD A NOTIFICATION FOR THE PUBLISH DATE FOR THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, ALONG WITH THE CITY COUNCIL DATE, AND A SIGN WAS POSTED ON THE PROPERTY AS WELL.
STAFF HAS NOT RECEIVED ANY INQUIRIES OPPOSING OR SUPPORTING THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST, AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MET ON NOVEMBER THE 14TH AND RECOMMENDED APPROVAL BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.
THERE WAS NO DISCUSSION OR NOR SPEAKERS AT THAT MEETING, AND STAFF RECOMMENDED APPROVAL FOR THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST AS REQUESTED BY THE APPLICANT. DUE TO THE FACT THAT THE COMPREHENSIVE IT IS COMPLIANT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND IT WOULD BE, UM, FURTHER THE VISION OF THE OLD TOWN DESIGNATION.
ANY QUESTIONS? IS THERE A MOTION? SORRY, MAYOR. WE NEED.
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SORRY. I'M SORRY.UH, I'M GOING TO OPEN THIS PUBLIC HEARING AT 624.
IS THERE ANYBODY THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ITEM SIX? A AND I HAVE NO SPEAKER CARDS, MAYOR.
WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT ALSO 624.
WOULD YOU ASK FOR A VOTE, PLEASE, MAYOR, ON THIS ITEM.
SECOND. IS THERE A MOTION ON THIS? I MOVE TO APPROVE THE ZONING CHANGE FROM SF7 TO CENTRAL COMMERCIAL.
I HAVE A MOTION BY ADAM. A SECOND BY PHIL.
PLEASE VOTE. PASSES UNANIMOUS.
THAT BRINGS US TO SIX B 6988 EAST FM 917.
[6.B.6988 E FM 917 (Case 23-091): Hold a public hearing and consider approval of an ordinance for a zoning change request from “A”, Agricultural to “C”, Commercial for a 2.8 acre portion of 6988 E FM 917. (First and Final Reading) (Staff Presenter: Emilio Sanchez, Development Services Assistant Director)(The Planning and Zoning Commission recommended approval by unanimous vote)]
CASE 20 3-091.THIS IS TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER APPROVAL OF AN ORDINANCE FOR A ZONING CHANGE.
REQUEST FROM A AGRICULTURAL TO SEE COMMERCIAL FOR A 2.8 ACRE PORTION OF 6988 EAST FM 917.
THIS IS BEFORE CITY COUNCIL ON FIRST AND FINAL READING.
THE STAFF PRESENTER AGAIN IS EMILIO SANCHEZ, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ASSISTANT DIRECTOR.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
FOR THE RECORD, EMILIO SANCHEZ, AS MISS CAMPOS STATED, I WON'T REPEAT AS I DID EARLIER, ALL THE INFORMATION THAT SHE HAD STATED, BUT THIS IS A ZONING CHANGE REQUEST THAT MR. SEAN HILL, THE APPLICANT, IS REQUESTING FOR 6988 EAST FM 917.
UH, THIS IS CURRENTLY A SPLIT ZONED LOT.
AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE SCREEN, THERE IS A 2.8 ACRE SECTION OF 6988 EAST FM 917 THAT IS, A PORTION IS COMMERCIAL AS WELL AS AGRICULTURE.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO REZONE A PORTION TO INCLUDE ALL OF THE PROPERTY TO BE ZONED COMMERCIAL SO THAT THEY COULD, UM, BUILD A SOUTHERN TIRE MART.
AT THIS TIME, THE APPLICANT DOES HAVE A COMMERCIAL SITE PLAN IN WITH STAFF FOR REVIEW, BUT IT WILL REQUIRE A ZONING CHANGE REQUEST APPROVAL PRIOR TO STAFF BEING ABLE TO ADMINISTRATIVELY APPROVE THE SITE PLAN FOR THE SOUTHERN TIRE MART.
THE CURRENT ZONING, AS I STATED EARLIER, IS SPLIT BETWEEN AGRICULTURE AND COMMERCIAL.
THE REQUESTED ZONING CHANGE DOES MEET THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS COMMERCIAL.
AGAIN, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.
PUBLIC HEARING NOTICES WERE WERE MAILED TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 300FT, ALSO PUBLISHED IN THE NEWSPAPER, ALONG WITH A SIGN POSTED ON THE PROPERTY AND STAFF HAS NOT RECEIVED ANY INQUIRIES REGARDING THE REQUEST, EITHER OPPOSING OR SUPPORTING THE APPLICATION.
APPLICANT'S REQUEST TO CHANGE THE ZONING.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION MET ON NOVEMBER THE 14TH, RECOMMENDED APPROVAL BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.
THERE WERE NO DISCUSSIONS OR SPEAKERS AT THAT TIME, AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE ZONING CHANGE FROM AGRICULTURE TO COMMERCIAL FOR THE 2.8 ACRE PORTION, AS THIS WOULD COMPLY WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IF APPROVED, AND THE PROPOSED USE IS GOING TO BE A SOUTHERN TIRE MART, WHICH BY THE COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT WOULD ALLOW FOR THE REPAIRS THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING TO DO ON SITE.
SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN THOSE.
AND THE APPLICANT IS IN THE AUDIENCE AS WELL.
ANY QUESTIONS? I'M HOPING THE PUBLIC HEARING UP AT 628.
IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL DURING THIS PUBLIC HEARING? I HAVE NO SPEAKER CARDS, MAYOR.
I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 629.
IS THERE A VOTE ON THIS MOTION? I HAVE A MOTION BY DAN AND A SECOND BY RONNIE.
PLEASE VOTE. PASSES UNANIMOUS.
THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM 6C3084 SOUTH BURLESON BOULEVARD.
[6.C.3084 S Burleson Blvd. (Case 23-254): Hold a public hearing and consider approval of an ordinance for a zoning change request from “SP”, Site Plan Ordinance D-091-08 and “A”, Agricultural to “PD”, Planned Development for a 3.016 acre site. (First and Final Reading) (Staff Presenter: Emilio Sanchez, Development Services Assistant Director )(The Planning and Zoning Commission recommended approval by unanimous vote)]
THIS IS CASE 20 3-254.[00:40:03]
TONIGHT IS TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER APPROVAL OF AN ORDINANCE FOR A ZONING CHANGE REQUEST FROM SP SITE PLAN, ORDINANCE D, DASH 091, DASH ZERO EIGHT AND A AND A AGRICULTURE TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR A 3.016 ACRE SITE.THIS IS BEFORE CITY COUNCIL ON FIRST AND FINAL READING.
ONCE AGAIN EMILIO SANCHEZ, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ASSISTANT DIRECTOR.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR. COUNCIL FOR THE RECORD, EMILIO SANCHEZ WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
THE REQUEST IS FOR 3084 SOUTH BURLESON BOULEVARD.
THE APPLICANT IS NATHAN OLSON.
UH, ON BEHALF OF AMERICAN COMPLETION TOOLS.
SO, UM, IN 2008, TO GIVE A LITTLE BRIEF HISTORY ON THE PROPERTY, COUNCIL APPROVED A SITE PLAN ZONING FOR THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY FOR AMERICAN COMPLETION TOOLS TO ACTUALLY START THEIR BUSINESS ON THE SITE.
UH, THAT IS ZONED AGRICULTURE AT THIS TIME TO.
COMPLETE HIS REQUEST TO EXPAND HIS BUSINESS.
A REZONING WAS REQUIRED NOT ONLY FOR THE SITE PLAN, BUT THE PORTION THAT WAS AGRICULTURE AS WELL.
SO THE REQUESTED PROPERTY, UH, IS IS PROPOSED TO BE A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT AND STAFF RECOMMEND THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE OF SOME SPECIFIC USES THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO NOT ALLOW UNDER THE I INDUSTRIAL THAT IS ALLOWED BY.
UH, WOULD NOT BE PERMITTED BY THIS PLANNED DEVELOPMENT WITH AN UNDER.
SO THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN HAS THIS AS EMPLOYMENT GROWTH CENTER.
UH, CURRENTLY IT IS A SPLIT ZONE LOT BETWEEN SITE PLAN AND AGRICULTURE.
SINCE THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, PUBLIC HEARING NOTICES WERE WERE MAILED TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 300FT OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, ALONG WITH THE PUBLIC NOTICE IN THE NEWSPAPER AND A SIGN POSTED ON THE PROPERTY.
STAFF HAS NOT RECEIVED ANY INQUIRIES CONCERNING THIS REQUEST, AND ON NOVEMBER THE 14TH, 2023, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION DID MEET AND RECOMMENDED APPROVAL BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.
THERE WERE NO DISCUSSIONS OR NO SPEAKERS, AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE ZONING CHANGE, REQUEST FROM SITE PLAN AND AGRICULTURAL ZONING TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT FOR THE 3.016 ACRE SITE AT 3084 SOUTH BURLESON BOULEVARD, WITH THOSE RESTRICTED USES IN THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT.
OKAY, I'M GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING UP AT 632.
IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING? I HAVE NO SPEAKER CARDS, MAYOR.
THEN I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 633.
IS THERE A MOTION ON THIS? MOTION TO APPROVE. I HAVE A MOTION TO APPEAL.
AND A SECOND BY RONNIE. PLEASE VOTE.
THAT BRINGS US TO SECTION SEVEN.
[ Items 7.A & 7.B]
SEVEN A IS. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE WATER AND WASTEWATER IMPACT FEE ORDINANCE, AND FINDING THAT THE MEETING AT WHICH THIS THIS ORDINANCE IS PASSED WAS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AND THE RECITALS ARE TRUE.AND THEN SEVEN B IS CONSIDER APPROVAL OF AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE ROADWAY IMPACT FEE ORDINANCE, FINDING THAT THE MEETING AT WHICH THIS ORDINANCE IS PASSED WAS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AND THE RECITALS ARE TRUE.
THE STAFF PRESENTED THIS EVENING IS ERIC OSCARSSON, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER, MR. OSCARSSON. THANK YOU, MISS CAMPOS.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
UM, TONIGHT BEFORE YOU IS, UH, IN ONE PRESENTATION, WE WILL REVIEW THE IMPACT FEE ORDINANCE.
UH, AS YOU RECALL, LAST MONTH, WE DID THE FIRST READING OF THE ORDINANCE AND HAD A PUBLIC HEARING.
UM, THIS IS THE SECOND READING.
UH, I'LL BE GOING THROUGH MUCH OF THE PRESENTATION, UM, SOMEWHAT QUICKLY.
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SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ALONG THE WAY, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO LET ME KNOW AND WE'LL ANSWER THEM.SO IMPACT FEES ARE ESTABLISHED FOR WATER AND WASTEWATER INFRASTRUCTURE.
BACK IN 2005, UM CITY STAFF, UH CITY STAFF BROUGHT FORWARD UM, THOSE IMPACT FEES BACK IN 2005, AND THEY'VE BEEN REVISED IN 2010 AND 19.
UM, THE ROADWAY IMPACT FEES WERE UH, UPDATED IN 2017.
AND THEN NOW IN 2023 WILL BE THE FIRST TIME THAT WE'VE UPDATED THOSE NUMBERS.
IMPACT FEES CAN BE USED TO OFFSET COSTS WITH REGARDS TO RIGHT OF WAY AND EASEMENT ACQUISITION, DESIGN, SURVEY AND CONSTRUCTION OF PROJECTS THAT, UH, INCLUDE ANYTHING WITH DRAINAGE, INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS, ANYTHING THAT IMPROVES ROADWAY CAPACITY, AND ANY OFF-SITE UTILITY IMPROVEMENTS THAT INCREASE INCREASE CAPACITY.
THEY CANNOT BE USED FOR MAINTENANCE COSTS.
ITEMS WITHIN THE ETJ, ANYTHING THAT'S TRAFFIC CALMING OR THINGS THAT DO NOT INCREASE CAPACITY.
EIGHT OF THOSE MEMBERS WERE APPOINTED IN MARCH OF THIS YEAR.
THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR FILING SEMIANNUAL REPORTS.
IMPACT FEES HELP OFFSET THE COST OF CONSTRUCTION FROM JUNE OF 2017, WHEN ROADWAY IMPACT FEES WERE ADOPTED TO JUNE OF 2023, CONSTRUCTION COSTS HAVE NEARLY DOUBLED.
SO WITH THAT, THERE'S SOME UPDATES TO THE ORDINANCE.
I'M NOT GOING TO GO INTO DETAILS ON ALL OF THEM.
UM, AND SO ANY QUESTIONS ON THESE? I'D BE MORE HAPPY TO ANSWER.
THESE ARE THE SAME RECOMMENDATIONS WE HAD DURING THE FIRST READING.
WE'RE GOING TO SPEND A LITTLE BIT OF TIME ON THESE.
UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, THE ROADWAY IMPACT FEES THAT ARE CURRENT ARE THE SAME FOR RESIDENTIAL AND NON RESIDENTIAL AND INDUSTRIAL, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF AREA D WITH INDUSTRIAL. UM AND THEN THERE'S ALSO AN ASTERISK NEXT TO AREA.
AND I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT FURTHER.
SO UH THE CURRENT ORDINANCE WITH REGARDS TO ROADWAY IMPACT FEES, IT SAYS THAT NEW DEVELOPMENT LOCATED WITHIN SERVICE AREA C AND WITHIN THE OLD TOWN OVERLAY DISTRICT, SHALL BE EXEMPT FROM THE REQUIREMENT OF ROADWAY IMPACT FEES.
THE RECOMMENDATION IN THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE IS THE SAME.
UM, THAT IS FROM THE OLD ORDINANCE WE'RE KEEPING.
AND THE NEW ORDINANCE, THE RECOMMENDATION FOR THAT IS BECAUSE ONE WITH THAT EXEMPTION IMPACT FEES THAT ARE ANY IMPACT FEES, SINCE WE DO NOT COLLECT IMPACT FEES WITHIN THE OLD TOWN OVERLAY DISTRICT, WE WILL NOT USE IMPACT FEES TOWARDS ANY PROJECTS WITHIN THE OLD TOWN OVERLAY DISTRICT.
ALSO, THERE ARE NO PROJECTS PLANNED FOR IMPROVEMENTS WITHIN THE OLD TOWN OVERLAY DISTRICT, SO IMPACT FEES WOULD NOT BE GOING TOWARDS ANY IMPROVEMENTS WITHIN THE OLD TOWN OVERLAY. SO THE RECOMMENDATION FROM STAFF WOULD BE TO CONTINUE TO NOT COLLECT FEES WITHIN THE OLD TOWN OVERLAY, SINCE THERE WAS NO IMPROVEMENTS THERE.
THERE'S NO REALLY TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS WE CAN DO WITHIN THAT AREA.
SO WE WOULD RECOMMEND KEEPING THAT ASTERIX AND THAT EXEMPTION IN PLACE.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT ONE? NOPE. UH MOVING ON.
THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE WOULD REINSTATE AN IMPACT FEE AND SERVICE AREA D.
THIS WAS THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE C-PAC UM TO BRING THAT BACK.
HOWEVER, COUNCIL CAN SET THAT FEE AT ANY DOLLAR AMOUNT THEY WANT.
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ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT ONE? COMMENTS. SO JUST A REMINDER SOME ROADWAY IMPACT FEE BENCHMARKING.SO FOR A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE, THE CURRENT ASSESSED FEE TODAY IS APPROXIMATELY $2,000.
WITH THE UPDATED FEE, WE'D BE ABOUT $6,500.
ON THE WAY AT WATER AND WASTEWATER SIDE.
THE WATER IMPACT FEE IS GOING FROM 2624 DOWN TO 2492.
ON THE WASTEWATER SIDE, WE'RE GOING FROM 1312 UP TO 1731.
UH, BENCHMARKING WISE, THIS IS WHERE 2019.
UH, WE WERE AT 39, 36 ON AVERAGE FOR A SINGLE FAMILY HOME.
THE NEW FEES WOULD RISE FROM ABOUT $7,800 TO ABOUT $12,600.
PREVIOUSLY. COUNCIL TOOK ACTION ON NOVEMBER 13TH AND THEY APPROVED THE FEES AS RECOMMENDED ON BOTH THE WATER AND WASTEWATER IMPACT FEES AS WELL AS THE ROADWAY IMPACT FEE ORDINANCE. AND TONIGHT, THE TWO ACTIONS BEING REQUESTED ARE FOR APPROVAL OF AMENDING THE CURRENT IMPACT FEE ORDINANCE ON BOTH THE WATER AND WASTEWATER, AS WELL AS THE ROADWAY IMPACT FEE.
STAFF CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
ANYBODY. I DO HAVE COMMENTS, AND I BELIEVE THAT THE REASONING AND THE LOGIC BEHIND EXEMPTING INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT IN SERVICE AREA D THAT WAS INSTATED IN 2017 IS JUST AS VALID TODAY.
AND I THINK THAT WE NEED EVERY ADVANTAGE THAT WE CAN PUT OUT THERE IN ORDER TO ATTRACT INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT TO OUR BUSINESS PARK AND TO THE EXPANDED AREA AROUND OUR BUSINESS PARK.
AND I'D ALSO GO A LITTLE FURTHER WITH THE WITH THE LOGIC THERE TO SAY THAT TYPICALLY INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPERS WANT TO BE DIRECTLY ON THE INTERSTATE IF POSSIBLE, OR AS CLOSE TO IT AS POSSIBLE.
I THINK THAT THE INCREASED TRAFFIC, UH, AND WEAR AND TEAR ON THE CITY'S INFRASTRUCTURE IS ONLY MARGINALLY AFFECTED, IF AFFECTED AT ALL, BY THE INCREASE IN TRAFFIC FROM THESE INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENTS ALONG AREA D, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY ALONG THE INTERSTATE.
SO, UH, I THINK WE HAD A GOOD IDEA WHEN WE EXEMPTED THEM IN 2017.
I THINK IT'S STILL A GOOD IDEA.
SO YOU'RE ONLY PACIFIC TO AREA D, JUST AS WE HAD IT BEFORE.
WHAT WAS EXEMPT BEFORE SHOULD SHOULD CONTINUE TO BE EXEMPT.
OTHER THAN THAT I'LL SUPPORT THE THE FEE SCHEDULE AS WE HAVE IT AS RECOMMENDED BY THE SEA.
IT'S THE THE CPAC DID WHAT WE ASKED THEM TO DO.
THEY EVALUATE COST, EXPENSES, FUTURE PLANS, REQUIREMENTS AND ADJUST THE FEES ACCORDINGLY.
AND I AND I WOULD ADVISE PERSONALLY THAT WE CONTINUE THAT EXEMPTION.
MR.. MR. MAYOR, ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WOULD ARISE WITH THAT IS IT IS PERMISSIBLE TO CARVE THE INDUSTRIAL PARKS OUT OF AREA D AND REMOVE THEM.
THE CRITICAL THING WE HAVE TO REMEMBER IS YOU CANNOT EXEMPT AND YOU CANNOT WAIVE IF THEY ARE SUBJECT TO RECEIVING THE BENEFIT OF THE IMPACT FEE.
THAT'S THE REASON I SAY WE CARVED THEM OUT.
IF WE SAY WE'VE GOT IDENTIFIED INDUSTRIAL PARKS, WE SIMPLY DRAW A BOX AND CUT THEM OUT OF AREA D.
THEY ARE NOT PART OF THE FEE SYSTEM.
THEY DO NOT RECEIVE ANY OF THE MONEY.
THE MONEY CANNOT BE USED THERE AND THEY DO NOT PAY IT.
IF YOU ARE, IF YOU ARE CAPABLE OF RECEIVING THE MONEY, YOU HAVE TO PAY THE MONEY FOR THAT PROPERTY.
SO IT'S PERFECTLY PERMISSIBLE TO DO WHAT THE MAYOR PRO TEM IS SUGGESTING.
BUT WE WOULD HAVE TO CUT OUT OF THAT BOX THOSE AREAS IN OUR IMPACT FEE MAP FOR AREA D.
SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A CONTINUATION OF WHAT WE'VE ALREADY GOT.
AND THE THING ABOUT IT IS THAT SYSTEM IS WORKING FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TO COME IN HERE.
WE SIMPLY ON THE MAP EXCISE THOSE AREAS OUT.
WE DRAW THEM OUT OF THE BOX AND IT'S FINE.
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WELL, WHAT'S WORKING RIGHT NOW? I DON'T WANT TO CHANGE IT.I MEAN, IT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING OR WE DON'T WANT.
WE'RE NOT USING THE MONEY IN THERE.
THAT'S OKAY. BUT WE CAN CARVE OUT TONIGHT.
A CITY HAS A CHOICE UNDER 395 WHETHER OR NOT TO IMPOSE IMPACT FEES.
THAT'S HOW WE CUT OUT THE OLD TOWN.
IN ESSENCE, WE CUT IT OUT OF THE BOX.
YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION, DAN? HELP ME IF I WORD THIS CORRECTLY, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO VOTE TO APPROVE THE FEE.
LET'S SEE THE ROLL. WELL, THE IMPACT FEE ORDINANCE AS PRESENTED WITH THE EXCEPTION THAT WE WILL CARVE OUT INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT IN AREA D AND MAKE THAT EXEMPT FROM ROADWAY IMPACT FEES.
CORRECT. WE NEED A MOTION ON ITEM A WHICH IS JUST WATER AND WASTEWATER.
OKAY. THEN YOUR MOTION WILL BE ON ITEM B WHICH WILL BE THE ROADWAY IMPACT FEE.
SECOND MOTION BY DAN A SECOND BY ADAM.
PLEASE VOTE. PASS IS UNANIMOUS.
THERE A SECOND. SECOND THE MOTION.
I HAVE A MOTION BY DAN AND A SECOND BY LARRY.
THANK YOU COUNCIL. THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM SEVEN.
[7.C. Consider approval of an amendment to the agreement for water service between the City of Fort Worth and the City of Burleson to 1) authorize milestone payments for Burleson’s cost share of a water transmission line estimated at $16,331,504 and 2) increase Burleson’s eastern water volume capacity from two million gallons per day to 13 million gallons per day. (Staff Presenter: Errick Thompson, Director of Public Works & Engineering)]
MILESTONE PAYMENTS FOR BURLESON COST SHARE OF A WATER TRANSMISSION LINE ESTIMATED AT $16,331,504, AND TWO INCREASE BURLESON EASTERN WATER VOLUME CAPACITY FROM 2 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY TO 13 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY.THE STAFF PRESENTED THIS EVENING IS ERIC THOMPSON, DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS AND ENGINEERING, MR. THOMPSON. THANK YOU, MISS CAMPOS, AND GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
UH, THIS IS A PRETTY EXCITING ITEM TO BRING BEFORE YOU, UM, BECAUSE IT IT'S PRETTY CRITICAL TO FUTURE GROWTH AND CONTINUED GROWTH IN BURLESON.
UM, BURLESON HAS CONTRACTED WITH THE CITY OF FORT WORTH SINCE AT LEAST 1963 FOR WATER SERVICES.
UH, THAT CONTRACT WAS IT MOST RECENTLY AMENDED IN 2011? UH, SO THE CURRENT TIRM EXPIRES IN 2031.
UM, THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT BEFORE YOU TONIGHT HAS TWO VERY IMPORTANT OBJECTIVES.
ONE IS TO ESTABLISH THE CITY'S PARTICIPATION IN A HUGE CAPITAL INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT WITH FORT WORTH, AND THAT'S TO CONSTRUCT A DESIGN AND CONSTRUCT A TRANSMISSION MAIN, UH, THAT WOULD ALLOW THE CITY OF BURLESON TO RECEIVE MORE WATER.
SO THE SECOND OBJECTIVE IS TO INCREASE OUR VOLUME ON THE EAST SIDE FROM THE CURRENT 2 MILLION GALLONS TODAY, A DAY TO 13 MILLION. AND THAT 13 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY WOULD GET US TO CURRENT BUILD OUT.
UH, SO I THINK IN YOUR CURRENT STRATEGIC PLAN FOR THE CITY, UM, SECURING WATER FOR BUILD OUT IS ONE OF THE KEY OBJECTIVES THAT THAT YOU SET FOR THE CITY.
UH, SO THERE'S COST SHARING FOR THE PROJECT.
AGAIN, THIS IS THIS PROJECT IS BEING IMPLEMENTED BY THE CITY OF FORT WORTH IN ORDER TO SERVE ITS WHOLESALE CUSTOMERS, INCLUDING BURLESON, TO THE SOUTH OF FORT WORTH.
UH, THE TOTAL ESTIMATED PROJECT IS ANTICIPATED TO BE RIGHT AT 57 MILLION.
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AND THIS PIE CHART HERE KIND OF GIVES YOU A BREAKDOWN OF WHO'S PAYING HOW MUCH.UH, SO THE BURLESON FAIR, UH, PRO RATA SHARE IS ABOUT 16.3 MILLION.
UM, THE THE ARRANGEMENT HERE IS THAT WE WOULD PARTICIPATE IN THE COST UP FRONT, UM, PARTLY SO THAT WE MAKE THE PROJECT A LITTLE CHEAPER FOR US INSTEAD OF PAYING OUR DEBT SERVICE AND FORT WORTH'S DEBT SERVICE, IF WE PARTICIPATE ALONG THE WAY, WE CAN ELIMINATE, UH, OUR PORTION OF THEIR DEBT SERVICE GOING FORWARD.
SO THIS IS A LITTLE OVERVIEW OF THE TIMELINE.
UH, OUR COST SHARE FOR THE THAT PART OF THE DESIGN IS 651,000.
UM, FINAL DESIGN IS SCHEDULED TO START IN MARCH AND END IN MARCH OF 25.
UH, OUR SHARE OF THAT COST IS ABOUT 832,000.
UH, THERE'S A LITTLE SOME EASEMENT ACQUISITION.
UM, LIKE, IT'S SCHEDULED TO BEGIN OCTOBER OF 24TH THROUGH MARCH OF OR FEBRUARY OF 26.
OUR SHARE IS ABOUT 1.3 MILLION.
UH, THERE ARE TWO STAGES OF CONSTRUCTION.
UM. OUR COMBINED COST FOR THOSE TWO PHASES ARE ABOUT 13.5 MILLION.
SO FOR AN OVERALL BURLESON COST OF 16.3 MILLION OUT OF THE 57 MILLION ROUGHLY.
SO THIS HAS BEEN ON THE RADAR FOR A WHILE.
UH, SO THE CURRENT WATER AND SEWER FIVE YEAR CAPITAL PLAN ANTICIPATES AND INCLUDES THIS PROJECT.
IT'S KIND OF HIGHLIGHTED IN THE MIDDLE THERE.
UH, IT'S BEEN CALLED THE OFFSITE WATER SUPPLY FROM FORT WORTH PROJECT FOR THIS PURPOSE.
UH, SO YOU'LL SEE THAT WE HAVE THE 651,000 PROGRAMED IN THE CURRENT YEAR, FY 24.
UM, WE HAD OLDER ESTIMATES IN 25 AND 26.
SO IN THE NEXT UPDATE TO THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM AND PLAN, UH, LATER THIS FISCAL YEAR, WE WOULD PLAN TO RECOMMEND THOSE ADJUSTMENTS TO YOU SO THAT WE CAN, UM, HAVE THE FUNDING THAT BURLESON NEEDS TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE PROJECT AS THOSE MILESTONES, UH, COME UP.
SO AGAIN IN THE FY 24 WE'VE GOT THE 651 IN THE CURRENT CURRENT YEAR BUDGET.
UM, IN FY 25, WE WOULD MAKE THE ADJUSTMENT TO INCREASE THAT NUMBER TO 6.387, AS SHOWN ON THIS SLIDE.
AND IN FY 26, UH, THE NEW REVISED NUMBER WILL BE 9.229 FOR THE TOTAL.
WELL THESE ARE THE NUMBERS THAT ARE ACTUALLY IN THE CURRENT, UH, CIP.
SO WHEN YOU SEE THE NEXT UPDATE OF THE CIP IN THE NEXT OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL MONTHS, UH, WE WOULD ANTICIPATE RECOMMENDING AN ADDITIONAL 63 MILLION, 63,000 TO MAKE THE FUNDING FOR THE PROJECT COMPLETE.
UH, THE MAP ON THE RIGHT GIVES US A LITTLE BIT OF AN IDEA OF THE COMPONENTS OF THE PROJECT.
YOU'VE GOT A MAJOR TRANSMISSION LINE FROM THE NORTH COMING DOWN.
UH, THERE'S A PIECE THAT BRANCHES OFF TO SERVES CROWLEY.
THAT'S KIND OF IN THE DARKER BLUE.
UM, THERE'S ANOTHER PIECE THAT ARE IN GREEN.
THERE'S ANOTHER COMPONENT TO THE SOUTH OF US THAT, UH, OR TO THE EAST THAT SERVES BETHESDA WATER.
UH, AND THEN KIND OF AN ORANGE SECTION THAT IS FOR BURLESON.
AND THEN WE ALL KIND OF PAY OUR PROPORTIONAL SHARE OF THE, UH, THE RED PIECE.
SO AS I MENTIONED A LITTLE BIT IN THE INTRO, UH, THIS MAKES A HUGE STEP TOWARDS ONE OF THE CITY COUNCIL'S STRATEGIC PLAN ELEMENTS OF SECURING ADDITIONAL WATER SUPPLY. UH, IT ALSO SUPPORTS ELEMENTS OF THE RECENTLY ADOPTED WATER MASTER PLAN BY SECURING SECURING BUILD OUT WATER SUPPLY NEEDS.
AND THEN IT COMPLEMENTS OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE UNDERWAY, SUCH AS THE EXPANSION OF THE INDUSTRIAL PUMP STATION AND SOME ADDITIONAL STORAGE FACILITY PROJECTS. SO OPTIONS TONIGHT, UH, TO APPROVE THE AMENDMENT TO THE WATER SERVICES AGREEMENT OR
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DENY. AND OBVIOUSLY, WE WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU WOULD APPROVE.ANYBODY? I THINK IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE THE LAST TIME THIS CAME UP, FORT WORTH CAME TO US AND WANTED $14 MILLION TO BUILD A SEWER LINE THAT WE DON'T NEED YET, BUT WE WILL NEED SOMEDAY.
BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO BE PHILOSOPHICAL ABOUT IT.
BUT THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT IS.
UH, ARE YOU READY FOR A MOTION OR DOES ANYBODY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SO OUR CONTRACT CURRENTLY, ERIC, IS YOU SAID THROUGH 31 CURRENTLY IS THERE I MEAN, WE DON'T HAVE A CRYSTAL BALL TO SAY FORT WORTH COULD LOOK AT US AT 31 AND IN YEAR 31 AND SAY, KIDDING.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO PROVIDE YOUR WATER ANYMORE.
BUT WHAT WOULD HAPPEN WITH A PIPELINE LIKE THIS IF THEY DID? LIKE THEY WOULD JUST SHUT IT OFF? IT'S A VERY EXTREME EXAMPLE.
UM, SO THE PIPELINE ACTUALLY SERVES TO THE SOUTH OF BURLESON AS WELL.
SO I DON'T KNOW THAT IT WOULD COMPLETELY BE SHUT OFF.
IT WOULD PROBABLY BE VERY UNDERUTILIZED IF BURLESON WERE NO LONGER TAKING WATER.
BUT FROM A REGIONAL PERSPECTIVE.
BURLESON IS GOING TO BE HERE, SO THERE WILL BE A DEMAND FOR THAT WATER.
UM. SO KOREA HAS A VALID QUESTION ON THIS THING, BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS THROUGH THE COUNTY AS THE FACT THAT WE'RE GROWING SO MUCH THAT WATER IS GOING TO BE AN ISSUE.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'LL BE IN THE 30S, BUT IT'S COMING.
TODAY IS COMING. BUT THAT IS A VALID QUESTION.
THAT'S THE INFANCY STAGE, RIGHT? THAT'S THE FIRST STEP THAT YOU HAVE TO TAKE.
BUT WE ARE TRYING TO ANTICIPATE, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS OUR BACKUP PLAN? I HOPE THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION.
WE'RE READY FOR A MOTION HERE.
I HAVE A MOTION BY DAN, SECONDED BY ADAM.
PLEASE VOTE. PASS IS UNANIMOUS.
THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM SEVEN D CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A RIGHT OF WAY.
[7.D. Consider approval of a Right-of-Way Use Agreement for a metal awning and posts over an existing outdoor seating patio at 133 S. Wilson Street, Spice Rack Bar & Grill. (Staff Contact: Emilio Sanchez, Development Services Assistant Director)]
USE AGREEMENT FOR A METAL AWNING AND POSTS OVER AN EXISTING OUTDOOR SEATING PATIO AT 133 SOUTH WILSON STREET SPICE RACK BAR AND GRILL.A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY ON THE PROPERTY.
BACK IN APRIL OF 2021, THE COUNCIL APPROVED A OUTDOOR SEATING PATIO REQUEST FOR A RIGHT OF WAY ENCROACHMENT AGREEMENT WITH THE APPLICANT.
UH, IF THERE WAS AT THAT TIME, THE CONCEPT PLAN SHOWED NO ROOF OR AWNING.
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THIS WAS THE APPROVED CONCEPT PLAN AT THAT TIME, IN APRIL OF 2021.UH, THIS IS WHAT'S CURRENTLY CONSTRUCTED ON THE SITE.
AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE ARE TABLES AND CHAIRS.
UH, I GUESS A LITTLE BIT MORE HISTORY.
UH, THE THE AREA THAT'S KIND OF CIRCLED IN RED IN A RECTANGLE WAS, IF YOU GUYS CAN REMEMBER BACK, UM, WAS A RAISED PLANTER BED THAT HAD A DEAD OAK TREE.
SO IT WAS A STRIPED AREA THAT WASN'T UTILIZED FOR PARKING, BUT IT DID HAVE A LANDSCAPE.
IT DID HAVE A LANDSCAPE BED THAT WAS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT SITE.
UM, DURING THE CONVERSATIONS ON THAT APRIL 20TH 12TH, 2021 MEETING, I BELIEVE THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL TO THE APPLICANT OR TO, UH, THE DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AT THE TIME FOR FINDING OUT WHAT THE PROPOSED SOLUTION WAS FOR REMOVING THAT RAISED BED AREA AND KIND OF SMOOTHING OUT, I THINK, WAS THE TIME THAT WAS USED HERE IN THE MEETING.
UH, THE APPLICANT CHOSE TO INSTALL CONCRETE TO HELP LEVEL THAT AREA OUT AND MAKE IT SUITABLE FOR THE SEATING AREA, INSTALLING THE POST FOR THE AWNING AS WELL.
UH, APPROXIMATELY THE THE SIZE IS APPROXIMATELY 16.5FT BY 32.5FT IN LENGTH.
UH, 16FT WIDE BY 32.5FT IN DEPTH.
UH, THE IMPROVEMENT WILL REQUIRE A PERMIT.
HOWEVER, A BUILDING PERMIT CANNOT BE ISSUED UNTIL THE RIGHT OF WAY.
ENCROACHMENT AGREEMENT IS APPROVED THROUGH THIS BODY.
SO AFTER THE APPROVAL, IF IT IS APPROVED, THE APPLICANT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO GET, UH, APPLY FOR BUILDING PERMITS ALONG WITH RECEIVING HIS INSPECTIONS. UH, BEFORE THEY WOULD BE ISSUED A FINAL AS PART OF THE RIGHT OF WAY USE AGREEMENT.
THERE ARE 12 CONDITIONS THAT WERE PLACED ON THE RIGHT OF WAY ENCROACHMENT AGREEMENT.
I'D BE HAPPY TO GO OVER EACH ONE OF THESE, BUT BASICALLY THESE ARE SOME INSURANCES THROUGH THE AGREEMENT THAT THE APPLICANT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO DO CERTAIN THINGS.
UH, IF THEY DECIDE TO REMOVE OR IF THE RIGHT OF WAY, UH, ENCROACHMENT IS NEEDING TO BE NEEDED TO BE MOVED FOR MAINTENANCE OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES. REQUESTED ACTIONS TONIGHT ARE TO APPROVE THE RIGHT OF WAY, USE AGREEMENT OR TO DENY THE RIGHT OF WAY USE AGREEMENT MYSELF.
I'M PERSONALLY FOR THIS I THERE ARE GOOD BUSINESS IN OUR OUR OLD TOWN AND I WANT TO SUPPORT THEM.
SO I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS.
I WISH IT WERE AS EASY AS IT SOUNDS, BUT UNFORTUNATELY WE'VE ALREADY HAD A SIMILAR CASE COME TO US WHERE ANOTHER GOOD BUSINESS OWNER ASKED PERMISSION TO DO JUST ABOUT THIS EXACT THING AND WAS NOT GRANTED.
UH, AND AMONG THE REASONS CITED WAS BECAUSE NOTHING IN THAT APPLICANT'S, UM, PROPOSAL INDICATED THAT THAT THEY WOULD INTEND TO BUILD A STRUCTURE THAT WOULD BE HARMONIOUS AND LOOK LIKE IT BELONGED IN A EARLY 20TH CENTURY TEXAS OLD TOWN, WHICH IS THE WAY WE LIKE TO SEE THINGS DONE.
CONSCIENCE. UM, RELATIVE TO THE PREVIOUS APPLICANT WHO WAS DENIED TO APPROVE AFTER THE FACT SOMETHING OF SIMILAR NATURE THAT WAS BUILT, UH, IN OBVIOUSLY NOT IN DIRECT VIOLATION OF ANYTHING, BUT JUST IN A CALL IT A MISUNDERSTANDING ABOUT WHAT THE, UH, RIGHT OF WAY AGREEMENT ENTITLED THEM TO DO, OR EITHER THEY JUST DECIDED TO DO IT AND HOPE NOBODY SAID ANYTHING.
BUT I DON'T LIKE TO THINK OF THINGS LIKE THAT.
I WHAT I HAVE TO THINK ABOUT IS IF I VOTE TO APPROVE THIS STRUCTURE TO STAY AS IT IS, THEN HOW WILL I TELL THE NEXT APPLICANT OR THE FORMER APPLICANT THAT YOU CAN'T DO THIS BECAUSE YOU WERE NICE ENOUGH TO COME AND ASK AND TRY TO GO THROUGH THE FRONT DOOR WHILE SOMEBODY ELSE DID IT WITHOUT, FOR WHATEVER REASON, NOT ASKING AND JUST DOING IT SO I CAN'T SUPPORT IT FROM THAT VIEWPOINT.
NOW I KNOW THAT'S GOING TO BE A BAD DECISION FOR THIS BUSINESS OWNER.
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TO REFUSE BY ALLOWING SOMEONE TO DO IT.I DON'T BELIEVE HAD THIS BEEN PRESENTED TO US BEFORE IT WAS CONSTRUCTED, THAT IT WOULD HAVE FARED ANY BETTER THAN THE OLD TEXAS BREWING COMPANY UH, PROPOSAL FARED BECAUSE WE AS A BODY DECIDED THAT WASN'T WHAT WE WANTED, AND WE SAID NO.
UH, I HAVE TO SAY NO HERE, AND I DON'T LIKE IT.
AND I'LL DO APOLOGIES TO ANYONE THAT THAT OFFENDS OR IMPACTS, BUT I THINK I WANT TO SEE A BETTER STRUCTURE HERE IF THERE'S GOING TO BE A STRUCTURE AT ALL. ANYBODY ELSE? YEAH. ANOTHER THING THAT CONCERNS ME ABOUT ALL THIS IS THE FACT THAT THEY ARE FIVE MINUTES AWAY.
AND IS THIS A POSSIBILITY? I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WAS DONE.
UH, I COULD BE AWFULLY WRONG ABOUT THIS, BUT I'M PRETTY SURE WE DIDN'T GIVE THEM PERMISSION TO RAISE THAT CONCRETE THAT HIGH OFF THE OFF OF THE STREET, BUT I WON'T MAKE THAT AN ISSUE.
BUT I AM NOT AT ALL FOR FOR THE AWNING.
I HAVE A CONCERN THAT I'M WITH YOU, DAN AND RONNIE, ON THIS.
I JUST, UH, I WOULD HATE TO SEE THE OTHER BUSINESSES, UH, AROUND ON MAIN STREET.
AND WHAT HAPPENS TO BABES IF THEY WANT TO DO IT? WHAT HAPPENS TO FRESCOES IF THEY WANT TO DO IT? WHAT HAPPENS TO, UH, THE BURGER HOUSE DOWN THERE? WE'RE GOING TO TAKE UP MORE PARKING.
NOW WE WANT TO GET STREET PARKING.
WE WANT TO TAKE SOME MORE PARKING AWAY ON MAIN STREET.
SO I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS, TOO.
ANYBODY ELSE. I WANT TO SAY THAT I'M VERY MUCH IN FAVOR AND APPRECIATIVE OF THE BUSINESSES THAT WE HAVE IN OLD TOWN, AND ALL THE EFFORTS THAT ARE BEING MADE TO, UM, MAKE IT A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE WANT TO SPEND TIME, MONEY AND, UM, AND DO BUSINESS.
WE ARE VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE OLD TOWN AND TO I MEAN, IT'S A GEM AND I'M VERY I WANT TO RECOGNIZE HOW MUCH EFFORT GOES INTO KEEPING THE INTEGRITY OF THAT SPACE.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A PRODUCT IF THIS TYPE OF THING IS GOING TO BE SOUGHT AFTER, I'D LIKE FOR IT TO FIT OLD TOWN AND KEEP UP THE LOOK, INTEGRITY AND FEEL OF OLD TOWN SPACE.
IT IS A GOOD BUSINESS AND I DON'T WANT TO PICK AND CHOOSE WHO WE LOOK OR FOR APPEARANCE SAKE, SUPPORT FROM UP HERE VERSUS ANOTHER ONE.
AND THERE WERE OTHER QUESTIONS RAISED.
WE WANT THEM TO BE SUCCESSFUL AND TO THRIVE, BUT WE ALSO WANT TO KEEP UP.
THIS IS A TRUE TREASURE, AND THERE ARE SO MANY COMMUNITIES THROUGHOUT TEXAS THAT WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A SQUARE OR AN OLD TOWN OR SOMETHING OF THIS, AND WE WANT TO KEEP IT, KEEP IT LOOKING, KEEP UP THE INTEGRITY OF THE SPACE SO THAT IT STAYS THE TREASURE THAT IT IS.
OKAY. DO WE HAVE A SPEAKER? I'VE GOT SOMETHING ELSE TO SAY.
THEY DO. WITH RESPECT TO THE APRIL 20TH 21ST JUDGMENT BY THIS COUNCIL OR THE OTHER COUNCIL.
THAT IS CORRECT. UM, THIS COUNCIL MAKES POLICY AND ORDINANCES TO GIVE TO THE STAFF SO THAT THE STAFF CAN RUN THIS SAFETY AND, UH, CAN GROW THIS CITY CORRECTLY AND SAFE.
AND PART OF THAT IS ISSUING PERMITS AND FINES.
I DON'T SEE THAT IT'S THE PURVIEW OF THIS COUNCIL TO ISSUE PERMITS NOR MAKE JUDGMENTS.
WE HAVE A MUNICIPAL COURT THAT MAKES JUDGMENTS.
NOW WE HAVE ARTICLE FOR OLD TOWN DESIGN STANDARDS IN OUR ORDINANCE.
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AND WHEN STAFF IS ISSUING THOSE PERMITS AND MAKING THOSE DECISIONS IN OLD TOWN, THEY NEED TO BASE THEM ON ARTICLE FOUR TO CONFORM WITH OLD TOWN STANDARDS. THERE WAS A LOT OF TIME, A LOT OF EFFORT SPENT IN DESIGNING THOSE STANDARDS, CREATING THOSE STANDARDS.A LOT OF COMMITTEES WERE AWAY FROM THEIR FAMILY, JUST LIKE THE BOND COMMITTEE.
WE TALK ABOUT A LOT, AND I THINK WE NEED TO RESPECT THOSE STANDARDS.
I APPRECIATE THEIR BUSINESS IN THE CITY.
I APPRECIATE THEIR GROWTH NEXT DOOR, WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
BUT I THINK IT'S NOT OUR PURVIEW TO ISSUE PERMITS AND MAKE THOSE DECISIONS.
AND ORDINANCE POLICY AND THE OLD TOWN STANDARD DESIGNS.
SO IN MY OPINION, WE STICK WITH THE CURRENT RIGHT OF WAY AGREEMENT.
BUT I THINK THE ORIGINAL ONSET SHOULD BE WITH STAFF BETWEEN STAFF AND THE BUSINESS.
COUNCIL MEMBER. SCOTT. I'LL SPEAK TO THAT, I THINK, UM.
UH, THE RULING BY THE BUILDING OFFICIAL AND I WAS IN AGREEMENT WITH HIM ABOUT THIS WAS SIMPLY THAT WE DIDN'T FEEL LIKE THE EXISTING RIGHT OF WAY AGREEMENT ALLOWED FOR ANYTHING BEYOND WHAT CURRENTLY IS OR WHAT WAS WHAT WAS APPROVED IN THE RIGHT OF WAY AGREEMENT.
THAT WASN'T THE RENDERINGS THAT WERE APPROVED BY THE COUNCIL.
SO THAT'S I WANT TO EXPLAIN THE JUSTIFICATION ON WHY WE TOOK THAT APPROACH.
OKAY. THE RENDERINGS THAT WERE APPROVED BY COUNCIL ORIGINALLY APPEARED TO HAVE.
IT SERVES ITS PURPOSE, BUT WITH AN AWNING.
SO THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT WAS NOT MET.
UNDERSTOOD. SO I'M CONCERNED THAT IF WE PUT OUT A NEW RIGHT OF WAY AGREEMENT TO CONFORM TO WHAT HAS BEEN DONE, NOT WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE, THEN WE'RE NOT CONFORMING TO OUR RULES OR OUR GUIDELINES.
WE'RE CONFORMING TO OTHER RULES AND GUIDELINES NOT SET BY THIS COUNCIL.
SO I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE AWNING AS LONG AS IT MATCHES SOMETHING IN OLD TOWN STANDARDS.
SO TO THAT POINT, MR. COUNCIL MEMBER, UM, THE ARTICLE 4-3 OF THE OLD TOWN DESIGN STANDARDS REQUIRES A SUBSTANTIAL BUILDING RENOVATION TO TAKE PLACE BEFORE THOSE STANDARDS COME INTO PLAY.
SO IF A BUILDING IS APPRAISED AT $100,000, IT WOULD REQUIRE $50,000 WORTH OF RENOVATIONS BEFORE THOSE STANDARDS COME INTO PLAY FOR AN EXISTING BUILDING.
SO I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT FOR THE COUNCIL.
ARE WE ENTITLED TO USE THE OLD TOWN PLAN THAT WAS PUT TOGETHER FIVE YEARS AGO? SO THE STANDARDS THAT ARE IN PLACE WOULD BE THE OLD TOWN DESIGN REVIEW MANUAL, THE STANDARDS THAT ARE ADOPTED IN APPENDIX C, I BELIEVE.
AS LONG AS THEY CONFORM WITH THOSE.
ARE WE READY FOR A VOTE? NO, SIR. I HAVE TWO SPEAKER CARDS.
THE SPEAKERS HAVE BEEN WAITING.
THE FIRST SPEAKER CARD I HAVE IS.
DEREK. DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK? OKAY. OKAY, SO MY NEXT SPEAKER CARD IS BILL JANISCH.
CLINTON. UH, LARRY, I AGREE WITH A LOT OF WHAT YOU JUST SAID.
UH, DEREK SPENT A LOT OF GOOD HERE.
THERE WAS NOTHING HERE, REALLY, LIKE 13, 14, 15 YEARS AGO.
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DEREK AND, UH, A COUPLE INVESTORS, THEY THEY DID GOOD.I MEAN, THEY GOT GOOD FOOD, GOOD PATRONS.
UH, THE BREWERY, I MEAN, IT'S THRIVED.
THOSE TWO INSTITUTIONS WERE TWO OF THE MAIN ONES THAT THEY HUNG AROUND.
THEY'VE COME AND GONE BECAUSE PEOPLE QUIT INVESTING IN OLD TOWN.
THE STRUCTURE ITSELF BEING CEMENT.
I THINK THE CEMENT, YOU KNOW, IT'S HERE NOR THERE.
UH, WITH THE METAL TOP, IT COULD BE COVERED IN A VINYL OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
ALMOST LIKE A CANOPY. IT COULD BE REPITCHED.
THE STRENGTH WOULD BE IN THE METAL, BUT YOU COULD PITCH SOMETHING ELSE OVER IT.
UH, I DO SUPPORT THESE BUSINESSES IN OLD TOWN.
I MEAN, YOU CAN GO BACK ALL ALL THE WAY 40, 50 YEARS.
I MEAN, THEY'VE COME AND GONE.
UH, THE LUMBER YARD THAT HE'S DOING NEXT DOOR.
I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE PRETTY INCREDIBLE PLACE.
I THINK IT'S GOING TO BRING IN A LOT OF PEOPLE, AND THAT'S WHAT'S ALL ABOUT.
I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT, UH, THE BREWERY, I WAS HERE, I SPOKE IN SUPPORT OF IT.
NOT BECAUSE I OWED PHILIP ANY FAVORS OR ANYTHING.
I AGREE HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN ALLOWED TO DO SOMETHING.
I'D LIKE YOU GUYS TO RECONSIDER WHEN IT COMES BACK.
I MEAN, IF HE COMES BACK, I'M GOING TO SPEAK ON IT AGAIN.
I MEAN, HE'S GOT HIS RIGHT OF WAY AGREEMENT.
SO HOPEFULLY THIS STUFF WILL GET HANDLED AND ALL THAT.
YOU KNOW? I HOPE YOU GUYS APPROVE THIS.
THANKS. ANYBODY ELSE? NO, SIR. I HAVE NO OTHER SPEAKER CARDS.
I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO DENY APPROVAL.
I HAVE A MOTION BY DAN AND A SECOND BY RONNIE.
[8.A. Receive a report, hold a discussion, and provide staff direction regarding realignment of the General Fund five-year Capital Improvement Program (CIP) and supporting debt capacity. (Staff Presenter: Harlan Jefferson, Deputy City Manager)]
CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN PROGRAM AND SUPPORTING DEBT CAPACITY.THE STAFF PRESENTED THIS EVENING IS HARLAN JEFFERSON, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER.
SPECIFICALLY, I'LL WALK THROUGH THE PREVIOUS DIRECTIONS PROVIDED BY THE COUNCIL.
AND THEN WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE NEXT STEPS.
ON NOVEMBER 13TH, YOU DIRECTED US TO INCREASE THE BUDGET FOR THE POLICE EXPANSION PROJECT UP TO $42 MILLION, INCREASING THE BUDGET APPROXIMATELY $5.5 MILLION.
THAT NIGHT, YOU ALSO ASKED US TO ADD TO THE CIP A GAS LINE RELOCATION.
THE VALUE THERE WAS $1.2 MILLION.
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PROGRAM, AND WE HAVE HULIN INTERSECTION ROADWAY EXPANSION LISTED BECAUSE IT PLAYED A ROLE IN REALLOCATING THE FUNDING.THIS IS THE FIVE YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM FOR THE GENERAL FUND.
THE FIRST SECTION, THE UPPER SECTION IS GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS.
IT REMAINS UNCHANGED FROM THE COUNCIL ADOPTION BACK IN SEPTEMBER.
THE ADDITIONAL PROJECTS IS WHERE WE MADE FOUR CHANGES.
AND THIS IS PRIMARILY FUNDED BY CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.
SO YOU CAN SEE THE GREEN ITEMS WHERE THE ADDITIONS AND THE RED ITEMS WERE THE ONES THAT WE STRUCK.
THE POLICE EXPANSION PROGRAM, UH, WE ADDED THE $5.5 MILLION ON THE RIGHT SIDE.
SO IT'S NOT LISTED ON THE CURRENT PLAN.
THE CURRENT GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND COMMITMENT IS APPROXIMATELY $32.8 MILLION.
AND THEN THE PROPOSED CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAMS FOR FOR CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATIONS AT $5.5 MILLION IS LISTED, AND ALL OF THAT TOTALS TO $42 MILLION.
THE OTHER ADDITION IS THE GAS LINE THAT I PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED.
YOU CAN SEE THE WICKER HILL AND GREEN RIDGE ROADWAY PROJECT STRICKEN FROM THIS LIST.
SO TO FUND THE ADDITIONAL $5.5 MILLION, WE INCREASED THE CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION CAPACITY.
WHEN WE REMOVED WICKER HILL AND GREEN RIDGE, IT CREATED $3.1 MILLION IN GENERAL OBLIGATION CAPACITY.
WE ALSO HAD IMPACT FEE FUNDS IN THAT PROJECT.
WE MOVED THAT TO AN INTERSECTION ROADWAY EXPANSION, AND WE HAD CASH FUNDING OF 879,000.
THAT WAS ALSO MOVED TO A HEWLAND INTERSECTION ROADWAY EXPANSION.
SO, SO WITH THE REMOVAL OF WICKER HILL, GREEN RIDGE, WE CREATED A SAVINGS OF 4.9 MILLION.
AND IF YOU ADD UP THE IMPACT FEES IN CASH, THAT TOTALS 2.4 MILLION.
SO THAT'S THE LONG WAY OF SAYING IT.
SO I KIND OF TOLD YOU HOW TO HOW TO BUILD A CLOCK.
NOW TO TELL YOU WHAT TIME IT IS.
IF THE SHORT WAY IS, JUST LOOK AT THE ADDITION OF 5.5 MILLION ON THE FAR RIGHT HAND SIDE.
WE INCREASE THE IMPACT FEES, UH, BY 593,000.
AND THAT'S HOW WE TOTALED UP TO THE 5.5 MILLION.
AND IT'S COMPLICATED TO A CERTAIN DEGREE, BECAUSE IMPACT FEE FUNDINGS COULDN'T BE DIRECTLY TRANSFERRED TO SOMETHING THAT WASN'T A ROADWAY PROJECT OR WASN'T IN THE ZONE FOR THE ROADWAY PROJECT.
NOW I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE DEBT CAPACITY.
WE'VE HAD QUITE A BIT OF DISCUSSIONS ABOUT IT.
WE ALSO TALK ABOUT HOW TO EXPAND THAT DEBT CAPACITY BY USING ROADWAY IMPACT FEES.
WE DISCUSS REFINANCING OPPORTUNITIES THAT COULD AGAIN INCREASE THAT CAPACITY.
AND THEN THE DEBT SERVICE FUND REQUIREMENTS.
WE WANT TO DEMONSTRATE HOW CONSERVATIVE THE ESTIMATE IS.
IF YOU LOOK BACK OVER THE LAST TEN YEARS OF INCREASED, UH, INCREASED ASSESSED VALUATION VALUE, AND YOU CAN SEE THE COLUMN ON THE RIGHT SIDE SHOWS THE NUMBERS OF PERCENTAGE INCREASE EACH YEAR.
IF YOU TOOK AN AVERAGE OF THOSE NUMBERS, YOU WOULD COME OUT TO 8.69%.
IF YOU REMOVE THE OUTLIERS OF ALMOST 12% ON THE HIGH END AND 5.25% ON THE LOW END, YOU STILL COME OUT TO AN AVERAGE OF 8.71%. SO THAT'S AMAZINGLY CONSISTENT SINCE WE'RE PROPOSING TO ISSUE 20 YEAR BONDS.
AND AGAIN, IF YOU REMOVE THE OUTLIERS OVER 13% AND AND MINUS UH FOUR, UH, 4/10 OF A PERCENT, YOU STILL COME BACK TO AN AVERAGE AFTER THE REMOVAL OF THOSE OUTLIERS OF 8.58%.
SO THE 3% PROJECTION THAT WE'RE USING IS, UH, REALLY A CONSERVATIVE NUMBER.
AND WE FEEL GOOD ABOUT THAT NUMBER.
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PRODUCES 8.9%, EXCUSE ME, $8.9 MILLION.OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS OF ADDITIONAL CAPACITY, WE'VE ALREADY USED 1.2 MILLION OF THAT FOR THE GAS LINE RELOCATION AT THE POLICE EXPANSION PROJECT.
SO THAT LEADS US TO A BALANCE OF $7.7 MILLION IN DEBT CAPACITY IN HARLAN.
THAT'S 7.7 FOR THE ENTIRE FIVE YEARS.
YEAH. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER RUSSELL, TO THAT POINT TO THAT IS BASED ON OUR ASSUMED FIVE YEAR CIP AND ASSUMED FIVE YEAR GROWTH PROJECTION.
I KNOW SOMETIMES THERE IN OUR CONVERSATIONS THAT IT'S HARD TO GET LOST OR IT'S EASY TO GET LOST IN THE NUMBERS, BUT WE CAN ASSUME THAT IT WAS SEVEN AND A HALF A YEAR AND YOU'RE THINKING, WELL, YOU GOT PRETTY GOOD CAPACITY.
SO YOU WOULD HIT THE EITHER MODIFY YOUR CIP OR CHANGE SAME SOME OF THE OTHER ASSUMPTIONS.
AND I DO THINK, YOU KNOW, JUST BECAUSE THE NUMBERS CAN CHANGE.
BUT IF WE HAVE GROWTH GREATER THAN 3%, IT COULD BE GREATER.
SO IF WE COME BACK AND WE HAVE SIGNIFICANTLY MORE GROWTH.
AND HARLAN SPEAKING TO THIS AGAIN THE NUMBER COULD BE GREATER THAN 7.7.
SO YEAH. AND YOU'RE SHOWING US THAT THE GROWTH HAS MORE THAN WHAT WE'RE ANTICIPATING.
YOU'RE WELCOME. NOW ANOTHER WAY TO INCREASE OUR DEBT CAPACITY IS UTILIZING THE IMPACT FEES FOR ROADWAY PROJECTS THAT ERIC PREVIOUSLY OR MR. OSCARSSON PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED.
SO THE CURRENT BALANCE IN ZONE A IS $1.1 MILLION.
IN ZONE B, THAT'S A LITTLE LESS THAN 500,000 IN ZONE C, $244,000.
SO I POINT THAT OUT BECAUSE AS WE ARE PROGRESS AND WE RECEIVE ADDITIONAL FUNDING, WE APPLY THOSE TO THE PROJECTS IN THOSE ZONES, AND THAT WILL FREE UP SOME MORE CAPACITY IS THE WAY THAT IT WORKS.
SO YOU SEE THIS NUMBER CHANGE OVER TIME AS WE CONTINUE TO BUILD OUT.
AND YET ANOTHER WAY OF INCREASING OUR DEBT CAPACITY IS REFUNDING EXISTING DEBT THAT CAN LESSEN OUR DEBT SERVICE COSTS OF CURRENT BONDS IN YOUR POLICY CURRENTLY, AND THIS IS A COMMON PRACTICE AMONG MUNICIPALITIES, YOU WILL NOT CONSIDER ANY TYPE OF REFUNDING OPPORTUNITIES UNTIL YOU CAN RECEIVE A PRESENT VALUE SAVINGS OF AT LEAST 3.5%.
SO THAT'S THE THAT'S THE MARK THAT SAYS IT'S WORTHWHILE PURSUING.
SO WE'VE BEEN EYEING OPPORTUNITIES TO REFUND SOME EXISTING DEBT.
YOU CAN'T REFUND THEM UNTIL YOU'VE ACTUALLY BEEN PAYING DEBT SERVICE FOR AT LEAST TEN YEARS.
SO WE WE HAVE A 2024 BONDING OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE CAN CONSIDER.
EXCUSE ME, 2014 BONDING OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE CAN CONSIDER IN 2024.
AND THAT'S A GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND AS WELL AS A CERTIFICATE OF OBLIGATION.
THEY TOTAL UP IN PRINCIPAL OUTSTANDING PRINCIPAL OF OVER $14 MILLION.
AND WE'VE EVALUATED THOSE OPPORTUNITIES GOING ALL THE WAY BACK TO SEPTEMBER.
SO IN SEPTEMBER THE 6TH, WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE REFUND AND OPPORTUNITIES, IF WE HAD REFUNDED THE BONDS AT THAT TIME, WE COULD HAVE SAVED ALMOST $900,000 AND THE PRESENT VALUE SAVINGS WOULD HAVE BEEN 5.64%.
SO WELL ABOVE THE THRESHOLD YOU HAVE.
BUT THE MARKET BEING WHAT IT IS, IF YOU WOULD HAVE REFUNDED THE BONDS ON OCTOBER 17TH, WE WOULD HAVE ONLY SAVED 323,000 AND BEEN LESS THAN 2% PRESENT VALUE SAVINGS.
BUT BY BUT THE MARKET BEGAN TO RALLY.
SO BY NOVEMBER 30TH, HAD WE REFUNDED BONDS, WE WOULD HAVE SAVED 600.
AND RIGHT AT OUR OUR OUR THRESHOLD OF 3.5%.
AND IT'S NOT IN THE PRESENTATION.
BUT OUT OF CURIOSITY, I DID LOOK TO SEE WHAT THE REFUNDING OPPORTUNITY WOULD LOOK LIKE TODAY.
SO WE WOULD HAVE SAVED AGAIN OVER $800,000, AND IT WOULD HAVE BEEN AT 5.34%.
SO THE FEDERAL RESERVE IS MEETING THIS WEEK.
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SO THE YIELD CURVE IS INVERTED NOW.SO AT THIS POINT, IF WE CONSIDER REFUNDING IN 2024, WE THINK, YOU KNOW, THE SAVINGS COULD BE ANYWHERE FROM 600,000 TO PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, 900,000 RANGE.
AND IF WE'RE LUCKY TO GET BETTER AND A LOT OF IT DEPENDS ON TIMING.
HARLAN, HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE IF WE DECIDE, OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO DO A DEBT ISSUANCE AND THEN TO THE TIME THAT THE BONDS GET ISSUED, LIKE HOW MANY MONTHS DOES IT USUALLY TAKE? BECAUSE LIKE YOU SAID, TIMING BECAUSE WE'RE THE BOND MARKET'S RALLYING RIGHT NOW.
AND THAT'S WHY THE YEAH THE RATES ARE COMING BACK DOWN.
BUT YEAH WE WE COULD EASILY DO THAT.
UH PROBABLY YOU KNOW WITHIN A SIX 6 TO 8 WEEK PERIOD.
OKAY. UM, THIS OPPORTUNITY REALLY, UH, CAN START AS EARLY AS, AS THIS MONTH, SO YOU CAN DO IT 90 DAYS PRIOR TO, UH, TO THE BOND DATE.
SO. SO WE ARE WITHIN RANGE, UH, A LOT OF TIMES TO MAXIMIZE YOUR SAVINGS, THE, THE DEBT ISSUANCE COST SAVINGS, YOU WOULD COMBINE THE REFUNDING WITH THE ISSUANCE OF NEW DEBT.
SO IDEALLY WE'D LIKE TO PACKAGE IT AS ONE, ONE ONE PACKAGE.
SO A LOT OF TIMES YOU DON'T SEE CITIES ISSUING DEBT UNTIL PROBABLY AFTER MARCH.
IF IT'S ADVANTAGEOUS TO ACCELERATE THAT, WE CAN AND WE GIVE THEM PROJECTIONS.
UM, BUT WE CAN CONTINUE TO TALK TO OUR FINANCIAL ADVISOR ABOUT THE TIMING AND SO FORTH.
AND THEN, UH, YET ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO EXPAND YOUR DEBT SERVICE REALLY LIES IN THE FUND BALANCE OF THE DEBT SERVICE FUND. UH, SO LET ME MENTION THAT TO A PAY PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST ON BONDS OR ANY OUTSTANDING LONG TERME DEBT, YOU WOULD CITIES GENERALLY WOULD ESTABLISH A DEBT SERVICE FUND, AND IT RECEIVES MONEY PRIMARILY TAX REVENUE, INTEREST INCOME, SOME TRANSFER FUNDS FROM OTHER FUNDS.
AND THEN IT ONLY PAYS PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST BY LAW AND BOND COVENANT.
YOU CAN ONLY USE THE MONEY TO PAY PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST ON LONG TERME DEBT.
YOU CAN'T TRANSFER IT OUT TO ANOTHER FUND AND YOU CAN'T USE IT FOR UH MO OPERATIONS.
YOU CAN'T USE IT FOR STAFFING MAINTENANCE, ONLY FOR THAT SPECIFIC PURPOSE.
ONE OF THEM LIES IN THE TEXAS CONSTITUTION, AND THE OTHER ONE IS IN YOUR FINANCIAL POLICY.
UH, THAT'S REQUIRED NOW, THAT'S GENERALLY INTERPRETED BY BOND COUNSEL AND FINANCIAL ADVISORS TO MEAN THE AMOUNT OF YOUR DEBT SERVICE OR PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST EACH YEAR HAS TO BE A MINIMUM, AT LEAST 2%.
UH, THEN THE OTHER LIMITATION IS IN YOUR FINANCIAL POLICY, WHICH READS THAT GENERAL OBLIGATION DEBT SERVICE FUNDS WOULD NOT HAVE RESERVES WHICH, UH, WHICH YOU COULD READ THAT TO MEAN IT SHOULD BE ZERO, OR I THINK IT BASICALLY GIVES YOU THE MAXIMUM FLEXIBILITY TO BE TO HAVE A NUMBER AT ZERO ALL THE WAY UP TO WHATEVER THE COUNCIL ELECTS IT TO BE. SO ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE SLIDE JUST KIND OF SHOWS THE THE FUNDS THAT WE HAVE DEBT ISSUED FOR THE TIF, TWO GOLF COURSE FOR A-4B WATER AND SEWER AND GENERAL FUND. WE HAVE THE OUTSTANDING PRINCIPAL BY FUND AND A TOTAL OF $169 MILLION.
SO IF YOU WERE READING THAT LITERALLY AT 2% MINIMUM, YOU NEED $3.3 MILLION.
UH, HOWEVER, IF YOU READ IT WITH THE INTERPRETATION THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE A DEBT SERVICE OF AT LEAST 2%, THEN YOU SEE THE THE 2024 DEBT SERVICE COLUMN, AND YOU CAN SEE, UH, BY CATEGORY THERE OF FUND, YOU HAVE ANYWHERE FROM FOUR TO, TO SEVEN TIMES AS MUCH AS YOU WOULD NEED, YOU KNOW, BEYOND THE 2%.
SO YOU'RE ISSUING ENOUGH DEBT SERVICE EVERY YEAR TO SATISFY THAT 2% MINIMUM REQUIREMENT.
SO THIS SLIDE DEMONSTRATES HOW MUCH FUND BALANCE YOU ACTUALLY HAVE IN THE GENERAL DEBT SERVICE FUND.
SO FOR FISCAL YEAR 22, YOU ENDED THE YEAR WITH $2.6 MILLION.
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UH, THE ORIGINAL BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 23, YOU BUDGETED $8 MILLION TO END THAT YEAR, BUT YOU WERE FORECASTING YOU'RE GOING TO ALMOST BE AT $4.3 MILLION. AND THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR 2024, WE'RE FORECASTING YOU WOULD WE WOULD END THE YEAR AT $6.3 MILLION.SO YOU HAVE A FUND BALANCE, UH, AVAILABLE TO YOU.
AND THEN I WANT TO SHOW YOU THE DEBT SERVICE FUND BALANCE HISTORY GOING BACK TO 2006.
AND IF YOU WERE TO LOOK AT THE NUMBERS PRIOR TO 2020, THE LOWEST YOU WERE AT IS $369,000, AND THE HIGHEST IS $1,002,000.
SO, UH, I THINK A GOOD RANGE OF SOMEWHERE AROUND HALF $1 MILLION WOULD BE APPROPRIATE.
AND I'VE JUST SIMPLY PICKED THAT NUMBER, BECAUSE IF YOU DEDUCT THE THAT FROM THE THE $6.3 MILLION PROJECTED FUND BALANCE FOR THIS YEAR, THAT WOULD FREE UP $5.8 MILLION FOR A DEBT IN TERMS OF DEBT CAPACITY, INCREASING YOUR DEBT CAPACITY.
SO THIS SLIDE LIST THE OPTIONS YOU COULD PURSUE TO ACCESS THOSE FUNDS OR FREE THEM UP.
SO SINCE YOU CAN'T TRANSFER THEM OUT, WHAT YOU COULD DO IS REDEEM OR CALL BONDS THROUGH CASH.
SO IF YOU REFINANCE FINANCING A HOUSE OF $200,000, BUT YOU WOULD INFUSE, UH, $500,000 INTO THAT.
SO NOW IT'S A CASH DEFEASANCE IT'S THE DIFFERENCE.
SO YOU REFINANCING IT, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY PAY DOWN A LARGE PORTION OF THE PRINCIPAL IF, UH, IN THE SCENARIO WE'RE LOOKING AT, YOU WOULD PAY DOWN, UH, $5.8 MILLION IN, IN DEBT WHEN YOU REFINANCE THAT DEBT.
SO NOW YOU'VE FREED UP THAT CAPACITY FOR OTHER PROJECTS AS THE WAY IT WOULD WORK.
THE SECOND OPTION IS YOU COULD ISSUE NEW DEBT, UH, THIS UPCOMING YEAR AND THE FIRST YEAR, YOU COULD FRONT IN A PRINCIPAL PAYMENT OF $5.8 MILLION.
AND THAT WOULD STILL HAVE THE EFFECT OF FREEING UP, UH, $5.8 MILLION.
AND THE THIRD OPTION WOULD BE YOU COULD HAVE A TOTAL TOTAL STANDALONE PROJECT OF $5.8 MILLION AND PAY IT OFF WITHIN THE FIRST YEAR AND BE DONE WITH THE PROJECT. AND AGAIN, THAT WOULD FREE UP THE $5.8 MILLION.
UM, WE WOULD THINK, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD STILL KIND OF LOOK AT THESE OPTIONS AND EVALUATE ALL OF THEM GOING INTO 2024 AND COME BACK WITH A RECOMMENDATION BASED ON WHICH ONE WAS MOST ECONOMICALLY FEASIBLE.
SO THEY'RE THEY'RE MORE EFFICIENT BECAUSE YOU JUST INCUR THE DEBT ISSUANCE COST ONE TIME.
HARLAN, WOULD YOU MATCH THE MATURITIES LIKE LIKE ON OPTION TWO WITH THE FRONT LOAD, THE PAYMENT, WOULD YOU YOU KNOW, WHEN THE BONDS GET ISSUED, THEY DO RANDOM LIKE 300,000 FOR THE FIRST LIKE FOR A 24 BOND.
AND YOU KNOW, IT'S WHATEVER IT'S A TEN YEAR BOND.
AND SO IT'S 350 FOR 24 WILL MATURE AND 500,000 WILL MATURE DEPENDING ON THE MARKET.
AND SO DOES THAT MEAN THE FIRST YEAR WE WOULD ISSUE $5 MILLION WITH A 24 OR 25 MATURITY, OR DOES IT PAY OFF SEVERAL MATURITIES? YEAH. SINCE, UM, WE WERE LOOKING AT REFI, WE'RE LOOKING AT REFINANCING OVER $14 MILLION IN BONDS.
RIGHT. AND WE WOULD KEEP THAT SCHEDULE OF TEN YEARS.
THE FIRST YEAR, THOUGH, WE WOULD PAY OFF $5.8 MILLION TO IMMEDIATELY DROP, YOU KNOW, OUTSTANDING PRINCIPAL AND FREE UP THE FIVE, 5.8 MILLION IN DEBT CAPACITY FOR ADDITIONAL PROJECTS.
AFTER THAT, THEN WE WOULD JUST HAVE REGULAR SCHEDULES EQUAL TO THE SAME NUMBER.
IF IT'S HALF 1 MILLION OR 350 FOR EACH YEAR, EACH YEAR PAYING DOWN THE PRINCIPAL IN EQUAL AMOUNTS.
UH, OUR FINANCIAL RATINGS, DOES THIS AFFECT ANY OF OUR FINANCIAL RATINGS WHEN WE GET IN, WHEN WE REDUCE OUR FUND? UH, I DON'T I CAN'T SAY, UH.
IT STAND ALONE THAT IF YOU DID, A REFINANCING OR FREED UP CAPACITY, WOULD, UH, STAND ALONE EFFECTIVE RATING NOW ON A MORE GLOBAL SCALE IF IF YOU IF THE CITY DEMONSTRATED A STRONG CONTROL AND MANAGEMENT OF ITS FINANCIAL AFFAIRS THAT ARE INCREASE YOUR RATING.
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SO SO I THINK THEY WOULD LOOK AT THIS STEP ALONG WITH OTHER THINGS THAT WE WERE DOING, AND THEY WOULD JUDGE THAT TO SAY, UH, THEY'RE REALLY HAVE A GOOD CONTROL OVER REPAYING THEIR DEBT AND THEY COULD BE RELIED UPON TO DO THAT.AND THAT'S BASICALLY INCREASE YOUR RATING.
YOU HAVE TO SEND A MESSAGE AND DEMONSTRATE THAT YOU HAVE STRONG FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT.
WITH THE RATING AGENCIES, YOU COULD, UH, YOU COULD FORECAST A REPAYMENT OF BONDS OR, OR, OR YOUR BUDGET AND YOU COULD EXCEED YOUR BUDGET AND YOU CAN GO UNDER BUDGET AND THEY WOULD DING YOU THE SAME FOR GOING OVER OR AS GOING UNDER, BECAUSE IT DOESN'T DEMONSTRATE STRONG FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT. SO OUR STRATEGY FOR INCREASING BOND RATING IS REALLY TAKE A HOLISTIC LOOK.
AND THIS WOULD BE ONE OF THE TOOLS THAT I THINK WOULD WOULD HELP US.
HARLAN, CAN YOU SPEAK TO ANY NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCE OF REDUCING THE FUND BALANCE? I THINK THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN THE HEART OF THE MAYOR'S QUESTION.
YEAH. WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
UH, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCES TO TO REPAYING YOUR DEBT EARLY.
NO ONE'S GOING TO LOOK AT US AND SAID, THAT'S BAD PRACTICE.
SO WHATEVER YOU SAID IN YOUR BUDGET, IF IT IS IT MENTIONED EARLIER, IF YOU EXCEED IT BY EXCESSIVE AMOUNTS OR GO UNDER BY EXCESSIVE AMOUNT, THEY'RE DOING YOU THE SAME BECAUSE THEY DON'T SEE THAT AS STRONG FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT.
BUT PAYING DOWN THE DEBT EARLY, I DON'T THINK WOULD HURT YOU, PARTICULARLY IN THE DEBT SERVICE FUND DROPPING THAT NUMBER, AS LONG AS, UH, I THINK THE BEST WAY TO DO IT MAKE SURE YOU'RE AVOIDING A NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCES, UH, KIND OF COMES UP IN THE IN THE NEXT SLIDE, I BELIEVE.
THAT'S GOING TO DOUBLE IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.
I GUESS EVERYTHING WILL JUST GO, I GUESS.
AND SO WE TAKE IN ARE WE ARE WE SHOOTING OURSELVES IN THE FOOT BY TAKING THAT CUSHION OUT? I DON'T KNOW, BUT, UM, I ALWAYS LIKE FOR LOOKING FOR MONEY, OBVIOUSLY.
I BECAUSE THE DEBT SERVICE FUND IS, UH, IS FUNDED BY THE TAX RATE AND THAT IS THE STRONGEST AND MOST RELIABLE REVENUE STREAM THAT WE HAVE. YOU REALLY DON'T HAVE TO HAVE AN EXCESSIVE AMOUNT.
SO AND THAT'S WHY YOU COULD SEE THE NUMBERS GROW AS THEY DO, UH, IF YOU MISCALCULATE, REGARDLESS, THE MONEY IS GOING TO GO IN THERE AND YOU CAN'T TAKE IT OUT.
OKAY. SO SO THAT'S WHY I DON'T THINK IT HARMS YOU.
YOU ARE CORRECT THAT THIS IS A BIG CHANGE IN PARADIGM.
UH, SO SO I DIDN'T WANT TO JUST SIMPLY RELY ON MY EXPERIENCE AND EXPERTISE.
ALTHOUGH I SHOULD SAY I DID THE SAME THING WITH A PREVIOUS EMPLOYER, BUT I DID CONTACT YOUR FINANCIAL ADVISOR, THE CURRENT FINANCIAL ADVISOR FOR THE CITY OF BURLESON, AS WELL AS OUR BOND COUNCIL.
AND AND IT REALLY DIDN'T CAUSE ANY EXPOSURE.
SO THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS I SHOWED THE THE SLIDE WITH THE BALANCE GOING BACK, YOU KNOW, TO 2006, AND YOU COULD SEE WHERE THE WHETHER OR NOT THERE WERE HUGE SWINGS IN THE DEBT SERVICE BALANCE AND YOU COULD SEE SOME SLIGHT ADJUSTMENTS, BUT IT NEVER WENT DOWN, PROBABLY OVER 300,000.
BUT IF YOU'RE CAREFULLY PLANNING IT, WHAT WHAT YOU REALLY HAVE TO DO IS FIGHT IT FROM NOT GOING UP.
IT'S WHAT HAPPENS, RIGHT? SO SO IT KIND OF CREEPS BACK IN.
THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE STRATEGY.
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TIME, THIS, THIS RANGE.I MEAN, I'LL AGREE BECAUSE WE, WE WERE IN DOUBLE A RATED FOR SINCE BEFORE THE PANDEMIC.
AND I THINK WE JUST MOVED FROM WHAT A NEGATIVE DOUBLE A NEGATIVE TO DOUBLE A.
SO IF WE GO BACK IT'S NOT I DON'T SEE IT BEING DETRIMENTAL TO OUR RATING.
LIKE YOU SAID, SMART FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT IS MORE IMPORTANT AND MAKING YOUR DEBT PAYMENTS.
WITH ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO. IF NOT, I'LL MENTION THE NEXT STEP.
THE FIRST ONE WOULD BE TO CONSIDER AMENDING THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.
SO WE TALKED ABOUT THE ALIGNMENTS EARLY ON IN THE PRESENTATION.
YOUR FINANCIAL POLICIES HAS A STATEMENT THAT IT WOULD BE REVIEWED ANNUALLY ANYWAY.
BUT IF YOU WANT TO PURSUE SOME OF THE CHANGES WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, WE'LL TALK TO THE FINANCE COMMITTEE ABOUT THOSE AND WHAT THAT SHOULD LOOK LIKE AND AND BRING THEIR RECOMMENDATION BACK TO THE FULL COUNCIL, UH, IN 2024.
AND THEN AS WE GO THROUGH THE NEXT YEAR, CALENDAR YEAR, WE'LL CONTINUE TO EVALUATE THOSE REFINANCING OPPORTUNITIES AND UPDATING THOSE NUMBERS AND COUNCIL WITH THE FINANCIAL ADVISOR AND BOND COUNSEL.
AND IN TERMS OF THE TIMING, HOW FAST SHOULD WE COME FORWARD WITH CHANGES? YOU MIGHT NOT HAVE THIS ANSWER, BUT I'VE ALWAYS BEEN TAUGHT THAT OUR OUR SALES TAX AND OUR OUR PERMITS WERE KIND OF A WINDOW TO HOW WE'RE DOING, HOW'S OUR HOW'S OUR PERMITS AND OUR SALES TAX LOOKING RIGHT NOW? WE'RE DOING OKAY. ARE WE HOLDING WHERE WE'RE AT? YEAH, YEAH. THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION.
AND I HADN'T LOOKED AT THAT, UM, SO FAR THIS YEAR TO SEE HOW IT GOES.
BUT THAT'S BEEN OUR GENERAL CONVERSATION.
UH, WE DID TODAY RECEIVE THE FIRST SALES TAX, UH, NUMBER FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR, FOR THE MONTH OF OCTOBER, WE BUDGETED AT 3%, AND IT CAME IN AT 7.24%.
SO SO WE'RE HAVING TROUBLE HITTING THAT TAPPING THAT NUMBER DOWN.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LIVE WITH THAT ONE NOW.
SO HOPEFULLY THAT'S A POSITIVE SIGN FOR THE YEAR.
AND IF WE CONTINUE THAT TREND THAT WOULD BE GREAT NEWS.
MAYOR COUNCIL I WOULD SAY TOO THAT JUST LOOKING AT OUR MONTHLY BUILDING BUILDING ACTIVITY REPORT, FIRST TWO MONTHS OF THE YEAR REMAIN CONSISTENTLY STRONG AS THEY WERE LAST YEAR. SO WE WOULD BE JUST BASED ON THE FIRST TWO MONTHS OF THE YEAR ON TARGET FOR ABOUT 300 SINGLE FAMILY HOME PERMITS, WHICH IS WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING IN THE LAST FEW YEARS.
SO. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING ALL THIS AND PUTTING ALL THIS TOGETHER, BECAUSE I LIKE SEEING HOW WE'VE BEEN CONSERVATIVE IN OUR THINKING WITH, WITH, YOU KNOW, 3% GROWTH.
BUT BUT NO, I APPRECIATE YOU DOING SOME DIGGING AND FINDING SOME SOLUTIONS.
IT'S MUCH BETTER THAN ALTERNATIVE.
I REALLY ALWAYS WANT TO UNDERSTATE OUR GROWTH.
ALWAYS. I MEAN, I LIKE GOOD SURPRISES, NOT BAD ONES.
I'LL BE HAPPY TO RESPOND TO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.
ANYBODY? THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
THAT'LL BRING US TO EIGHT B RECEIVER REPORT.
[8.B. Receive a report, hold a discussion and provide staff feedback regarding Burleson Fire/EMS delivery of ambulance transportation services. (Staff Presenter: Casey Davis, Assistant Fire Chief)]
HOLD A DISCUSSION AND PROVIDE STAFF FEEDBACK REGARDING BURLESON FIRE EMS DELIVERY OF AMBULANCE TRANSPORTATION SERVICES.THE STAFF PRESENTED THIS EVENING IS CASEY DAVIS, ASSISTANT FIRE CHIEF.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
UM, THE FIRST THING I WANT TO DO, FIRST AND FOREMOST IS JUST THANK OUR FIREFIGHTERS.
THEY HAVE STEPPED UP AND PROVIDED A NEW, EXCELLENT SERVICE TO OUR CITIZENS.
THEY HAVE REALLY DONE EVERYTHING ASKED OF THEM AND WENT ABOVE AND BEYOND.
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AND WE'VE BEEN GETTING SOME AMAZING FEEDBACK FROM OUTCOMES OF PATIENTS AND OUR CITIZENS AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT.SO I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T FIRST THANK THEM.
THEY'RE THE ONES PROVIDING THE SERVICE.
THEY'RE DOING AN EXCELLENT JOB WITH THAT FOR US.
I'D ALSO LIKE TO, UM, COMMEND OUR PUBLIC SAFETY COMMUNICATIONS.
THEY HAVE BEEN DOING AN EXCELLENT JOB.
THEY THEMSELVES HAVE TAKEN ON A BRAND NEW SYSTEM WITH THE EMERGENCY MEDICAL DISPATCHING.
AND ACTUALLY, ASHLEY PROVIDED ME AN EMAIL THAT SHE GOT FROM ANGELA HUDDLE, WHO IS THE PRIMARY DISPATCH EMD PROGRAM REPRESENTATIVE THAT HELPS US OUT.
JUMP OUT THERE AND REALLY TAKE IT ON AND GET IT.
WE'D ALSO LIKE TO THANK OUR CAREFLIGHT PARTNERSHIP.
AND THEY'RE DOING AN EXCELLENT JOB AND BEEN A GREAT PARTNERSHIP TO HAVE AS WELL.
UH, WE'VE ONLY REALLY GOT TWO MONTHS TO SPEAK ON SO FAR.
WE'RE FIGURING OUT A LOT OF THINGS STILL AS WE GO.
BUT, YOU KNOW, SO FAR SO GOOD WITH ALL OF THE THE WORK THAT THE FOLKS HAVE BEEN DOING.
WE ALSO WANT TO DEFINE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN EMERGENCY AND A NON-EMERGENCY TRANSPORT.
AND THEN I ALSO HAVE WITH ME, UH, BLAKE WINDHAM WITH TEXAS HEALTH BURLESON.
SO WE THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT FOR THEM TO BE HERE AS A STAKEHOLDER, TO SPEAK ON THEIR EXPERIENCE AND THE, UM, THE SERVICE THAT THEY'VE BEEN RECEIVING FROM US SO FAR. UM, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO REMEMBER THAT TEXAS HEALTH IS JUST A MEDICAL FACILITY IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT HAS A HAS NEEDS, JUST LIKE SOME OF THE OTHER FACILITIES.
THERE'S NO OFFICIAL AFFILIATION BETWEEN THE CITY OF BURLESON AND TEXAS HEALTH BURLESON THEY'RE OBVIOUSLY THEIR OWN STANDALONE ENTITY, SEPARATE FROM BURLESON, BUT THEY HAVE BEEN GREAT COMMUNITY PARTNERS, GREAT, UM, HEALTH PARTNERS IN OUR COMMUNITY IN MANY WAYS.
AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE DOCTOR CORDOVA HERE WITH US TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AND PROVIDE SOME FEEDBACK.
AND THEN LASTLY, WE'LL HAVE TO TALK ABOUT SOME KEY TAKEAWAYS AND SOME SUCCESSES THAT WE'VE HAD.
SO JUST TO KIND OF JUMP INTO THE DATA HERE, WE'VE SO OCTOBER THROUGH NOVEMBER WE RAN 1149 EMS CALLS. AND THIS IS KIND OF THE BREAKDOWN OF 911 VERSUS INTER-FACILITY TRANSPORTS.
AND THEN A FEW LIFT ASSISTS AND SOME OTHER UM, CALL TYPES.
SO HOW HAS BURLESON BEEN DOING WITH THIS? WELL. BURLESON SPECIFICALLY IS TRANSPORTED 725 PATIENTS OUT OF THAT 1149.
SOMETIMES PEOPLE JUST NEED TO GET CHECKED OUT.
SO WHAT DOES CAREFLIGHT DONE? SINCE WE STARTED, THEY'VE RAN 176 EMS CALLS FOR US AND TRANSPORTED 128 PATIENTS, AND THAT BROKE OUT 59 PATIENTS ON THE 911 SIDE AND 69 ON THE INTER-FACILITY SIDE.
SO BURLESON'S AVERAGE RESPONSE TIMES, I THINK, ARE IMPORTANT TO TO TOUCH ON.
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SO THAT'S GREAT. I MEAN, THAT'S AN AMAZING AVERAGE.THEY'RE GETTING OUT OF THE HOUSE 34 SECONDS.
SO THE NEXT ONE IS HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE US FROM THE TIME WE LEAVE THE STATION? TILL WE GET ON SCENE? THAT'S FOUR MINUTES AND 17 SECONDS.
AND THEN HOW LONG ON AVERAGE ARE WE ON SCENE? THAT'S 21 MINUTES AND 59 SECONDS.
UM, THEN HOW LONG HAS IT TAKEN US TO GET FROM THE SCENE TO THE HOSPITAL TO DELIVER THE PATIENT? THAT'S ON AVERAGE 17 MINUTES AND 24 SECONDS.
AND THEN FINALLY, HOW LONG ARE WE STAYING AT THE HOSPITAL? SO IT'S TAKEN THEM ABOUT 24 MINUTES TO DELIVER THE PATIENT, TRANSFER THAT INFORMATION.
ONE OF THE THINGS WE DID WANT TO TALK ABOUT, THOUGH, IS OUR CALL VOLUME.
SO NOW THAT YOU KNOW WE'RE IN YEAR 2023 AND THE AMBULANCE STUFF IS IS OFF AND RUNNING, WE'VE SEEN SIGNIFICANT CALL VOLUME FROM THAT ORIGINAL FITCH STUDY THAT WE DID TO LOOK AT THE AMBULANCE, UM, SYSTEM.
AND THEN WE'RE PROJECTED THIS YEAR TO GO UP ANOTHER 7%.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HOPING THAT THIS WILL WILL STAY STEADY MOVING FORWARD.
BUT WE JUST DON'T HAVE ENOUGH DATA YET TO LOOK AT THAT.
WE'RE BEING ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF ALL THE PATIENTS WITH THE CURRENT SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE HAVE SET UP.
SO THE BURLESON FIRE MS. OUR MISSION IS TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE AND SAFETY OF OUR CITIZENS BY PROVIDING THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF SERVICE THROUGH FIRE PREVENTION, COMMUNITY RISK REDUCTION, EMERGENCY RESPONSE, AND TRAINING.
AND WE'RE DOING THAT AS WELL AS ANY MOBILE INTEGRATED HEALTH CARE PROGRAMS. UM, SO THAT WOULD BE ANY FUTURE PROGRAMS IF WE DID SOMETHING LIKE A COMMUNITY PARAMEDIC PROGRAM OR PROGRAMS WHERE WE'RE PARTNERING WITH OTHER HEALTH FACILITIES TO TRY TO PREVENT OR REDUCE, UM, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE'S NEED TO ACCESS THE EMS SYSTEM.
THE NEXT ONE SAYS THAT WE'RE THE SOLE PROVIDER OF EMERGENCY AND NON-EMERGENCY AMBULANCE SERVICES, INCLUDING INTER-FACILITY TRANSFERS, SPECIAL EVENT SERVICES WITHIN THE JURISDICTION TO MAINTAIN CONSISTENT HIGH QUALITY SERVICE WHILE CONTROLLING COSTS THROUGH EFFICIENCIES AND ECONOMIES OF SCALE.
SO WHEN WE TOOK THE EMS SYSTEM, WE TOOK ALL OF THE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THOSE THINGS.
BUT WE ALSO PUT IN THE ORDINANCE THAT ALTHOUGH WE'RE THE SOLE PROVIDER, WE CAN PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES SERVICES EITHER DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY THROUGH LIKE PARTNERSHIPS THAT WE HAVE WITH CAREFLIGHT AND OTHER MUTUAL AID PARTNERS.
SO THE INTER-FACILITY TRANSFER QUESTION.
SO WHAT IS AN INTER-FACILITY TRANSFER? FIRST OF ALL, THAT IS SOMEONE THAT IS AT A FACILITY THAT NEEDS TO GO TO ANOTHER FACILITY.
AND SOMETIMES IT CAN BE FROM HOSPITAL BACK TO A REHABILITATION OR HOSPITAL BACK TO LONG TERME CARE.
AND THIS CAN ALSO INCLUDE SOMETHING LIKE A SCHEDULED TRANSFER, WHERE SOMEONE MAY NEED TO GO TO DIALYSIS, OR MAY NEED TO GO TO A SPECIAL TYPE OF, UH, DOCTOR'S APPOINTMENT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO THERE'S THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE IN THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF THESE INTER-FACILITY TRANSFERS.
NOW A TRANSPORT I KNOW THESE TWO WORDS GET INTERMINGLED A LOT.
A TRANSPORT IS JUST THE PHYSICAL PROCESS OF US MOVING THEM WITH THE AMBULANCE.
THAT'S THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE THERE.
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AND SO AT TEXAS HEALTH BURLESON IN THE E.R., THAT'S ALWAYS A PHYSICIAN, BUT AT A NURSING HOME THAT MAY BE A HEAD NURSE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT IT IS A HEALTH CARE PROFESSIONAL THAT'S SAYING THIS IS A LEGITIMATE NEED, WHERE WE NEED TO MOVE THIS PATIENT FROM ONE FACILITY TO ANOTHER FOR, FOR WHATEVER MAY BE GOING ON WITH THEM.NOW, WITH THAT SAID, THERE'S DIFFERENT LEVELS OF ACUITY.
SO HOW TIMELY DOES THIS MAY NEED TO HAPPEN? UM, WHENEVER YOU START TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, MOVING A PATIENT FROM ONE PLACE TO ANOTHER, NOT ALL THINGS ARE CREATED EQUAL.
SOME THINGS ARE VERY TIME SENSITIVE.
SOME THINGS ARE VERY CRITICAL.
AND SO HERE NOT TO BELABOR WITH ALL OF THE WORDS WE HAVE HERE ON THIS SLIDE.
BASICALLY A STABLE WITH NO RISK FOR DETERIORATION.
MAYBE SOMEONE THAT JUST NEEDS OXYGEN AND US TO MONITOR THEIR VITAL SIGNS.
THEY MAY BE RUNNING SOME IV MEDICATIONS.
THAT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE ADVANCED CARE AT THAT POINT.
AND THEN KIND OF THE NEXT LEVEL IS A MEDIUM RISK OF DETERIORATION.
WE'RE ACTUALLY MONITORING THEIR HEART WITH OUR CARDIAC MONITOR.
THEY MAY BE ON SOME MORE ADVANCED MEDICATION UM SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND AT THIS POINT THIS MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT IS VERY TIME SENSITIVE.
STABLE WITH A HIGH RISK OF DETERIORATION.
NOW, THIS IS A PATIENT THAT MAY REQUIRE SPECIAL EQUIPMENT.
LIKE, THEY MAY HAVE A BREATHING TUBE DOWN THEIR THROAT.
THEY NEED MAY NEED TO BE ON A VENTILATOR FOR SOMETHING TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR AIRWAY.
SO THIS MIGHT BE MORE OF THE, UM, SPECIALTY CARE TRANSPORT TYPE.
AND THAT COULD EITHER BE TIME SENSITIVE OR COULD COULD BE SLIGHTLY DELAYED DEPENDING UPON AVAILABILITY OF THOSE KIND OF RESOURCES, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY IF THEY'RE ALREADY WITH A DOCTOR IN AN EMERGENCY ROOM WHERE THEY'RE WHERE THEY'RE BEING MANAGED AND TAKEN CARE OF.
UM, AND THAT THERE COULD BE A SPECIALTY CARE TRANSPORT OR IT COULD BE A NORMAL EMERGENCY TRANSPORT.
SO THE NEXT THING WE'RE GETTING TO IS WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN EMERGENCY TRANSPORT AND A NON-EMERGENCY TRANSPORT? I THINK HERE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A COMBINATION OF A COUPLE OF THERE'S LOTS OF DIFFERENT DEFINITIONS OUT THERE.
BUT THIS COULD ALSO BE FACILITY.
SO A LOT OF THE TRANSFERS OUT OF TEXAS HEALTH BURLESON, I WOULD SAY THE VAST MAJORITY WOULD FIT INTO THIS, UM, THIS BUCKET HERE AS BEING AN EMERGENCY BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THE FACILITIES THAT THEY NEED AT THE FIRST HOSPITAL TO TAKE CARE OF ALL OF THEIR NEEDS.
THEY NEED TO GO TO THE OTHER PLACE.
NOW, WITH THAT BEING SAID, THEY COULD FIT IN ANY ONE OF THESE ACUITY LEVELS.
SO HOW QUICKLY WE NEED TO GET THERE.
WE TRIAGE THESE AND THIS WILL MAKE A LITTLE BIT MORE SENSE WHENEVER I GET INTO A FURTHER SLIDE, TALKING THROUGH HOW OUR PROCESS IS FROM WHEN WE INTAKE THESE TO WHEN WE DELIVER AN AMBULANCE THERE TO TO TRANSPORT THE PATIENT OVER TO THE HOSPITAL.
AND THEN AGAIN, A NON-EMERGENCY TRANSPORT WOULD BE WHAT YOU WOULD THINK.
IT WOULD BE A TRANSPORT THAT OCCURS WHEN A PATIENT NEEDS ARE NOT IMMEDIATE.
SO HOW HAVE WE KIND OF EVOLVED SINCE WE GOT STARTED WITH ALL OF THIS? LIKE I SAID, WE TOOK WE TOOK ALL OF THIS IN-HOUSE AND WE NEEDED TO MANAGE IT FROM THE CITY'S PERSPECTIVE.
SO AT THAT POINT, WE STARTED CALLING BACK IN STAFF TO UTILIZE THAT DURING SOME PEAK PEAK HOURS, UM, IN NOVEMBER, TO REDUCE SOME OF THAT, UM, WE STARTED ALTERNATING THE INTER FACILITY WORK WITH CAREFLIGHT.
WE NOTICED THEY WERE BEING UNDERUTILIZED.
THAT WAS A RESOURCE WE NEEDED TO UTILIZE MORE.
WE ALSO HAD AN AMBULANCE GO OUT OF SERVICE IN NOVEMBER.
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UM, AND SO THAT KIND OF HELPED THAT, THAT, UH, CONVERSATION ABOUT UTILIZING CAREFLIGHT A LITTLE BIT MORE THERE WHERE WE STARTED TO ALTERNATE THEM.UM, THANKFULLY WE GOT THAT AMBULANCE BACK IN SERVICE RELATIVELY QUICKLY AND NOW IN DECEMBER.
AND THEN WE'LL BACK THOSE SYSTEMS UP APPROPRIATELY FOR FOR EACH SIDE.
AND THIS HAS BEEN COMMUNICATED OUT TO OUR STAFF AND HAS BEEN WORKING WELL SINCE THEN.
I THINK THAT THIS IS WORKING WELL AT THE MOMENT.
NOW, GRANTED, WE ONLY HAVE ONE WEEK WORTH OF DATA TO LOOK AT THIS.
WE NEED MORE DATA TO SEE WHERE THE CALL VOLUME IS GOING, WHERE THE DEMAND IS GOING.
UM, ALL OF THOSE THINGS, WE MAY NEED TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION WITH MR. LUDWIG ABOUT, UH, STAFFING THAT OTHER UNIT, YOU KNOW, DURING PEAK TIMES OR HAVE FURTHER CONVERSATIONS WITH CAREFLIGHT.
CAREFUL. IT'S BEEN A GREAT PARTNER TO HELP US.
SO OBVIOUSLY THAT'S NOT SOMETHING WE'RE WE WANT TO UTILIZE THE BURLESON RESOURCES FOR.
THEY WERE ABLE TO BRING ANOTHER TRUCK IN AND HELP US TAKE CARE OF THAT SITUATION, WHICH, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS A PART OF THE PARTNERSHIP FROM THE GET GO, WAS THAT THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO HELP US UTILIZE FOR THOSE KIND OF THINGS.
BUT THEN WE ALSO HAVE OTHER PARTNERS WITH, UH, CROWLEY FOR 911 BACKUP, AND THEN WE STILL HAVE A MUTUAL AID AGREEMENT WITH MEDSTAR, AND THEY CAN DO INTER-FACILITY TRANSFERS, THEY CAN DO NON-EMERGENCY THE EMERGENCY AND 911, OF COURSE, AS WELL.
SO OUR NEW SYSTEM AS OF LAST WEDNESDAY, THIS IS KIND OF HOW IT IS FLOWING.
SO PUBLIC SAFETY COMMUNICATIONS, THEY RECEIVE A PHONE CALL FROM TEXAS HEALTH BURLESON OR ANOTHER FACILITY IN TOWN THAT NEEDS AN INTER FACILITY REQUEST.
IF IT'S A911, THEY'LL DISPATCH BURLESON RESPECTIVELY.
IF THE DISPATCHERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS, THEY CAN CALL THE BATTALION CHIEF.
YOU KNOW, USUALLY THIS IS AROUND INTER-FACILITY TRANSFERS, ESPECIALLY IF THERE'S QUESTIONS ABOUT AMBULANCE AVAILABILITY, BECAUSE WHEN WE GET DOWN TO TWO AMBULANCES LEFT IN THE SYSTEM, WE WANT TO HOLD TRANSFERS IF IT'S APPROPRIATE TO DO SO.
SO THAT WE BECAUSE WE WE'RE GETTING SOME PRETTY GOOD DATA ON WHEN OUR PEAK TIME HOURS ARE.
AND THAT'LL GO TILL ABOUT SEVEN, 8:00.
YOU KNOW, MAYBE SOMETIMES A LITTLE BIT LATER.
YOU KNOW, IT'S PRETTY INTERESTING.
YOU WOULD THINK THAT ON THE WEEKENDS WE WOULD BE BUSIER, BUT REALLY IT'S DURING THE WEEK IT'S LIKE MONDAY, TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY IS SOME OF OUR BUSIEST DAYS THAT WE'VE WE'VE SEEN SO FAR. AND IT'S KIND OF DURING THOSE PEAK HOURS.
WELL, A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE COMING THROUGH THE CITY.
A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE HERE DOING BUSINESS.
A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE COMING TO AND FROM WORK AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND SO FOR OUR COMMUNITY, THAT LOOKS LIKE THAT'S WHERE THE DEMAND IS RIGHT NOW.
YOU KNOW, SHOULD WE HOLD SHOULD WE NOT HOLD THOSE KIND OF THINGS? SO DOCTOR CORDOVA IS INVOLVED IN THOSE CONVERSATIONS IF NEEDED.
WE ALSO HAVE REGULARLY HAVE CONVERSATIONS DIRECTLY WITH THE FACILITY.
UM, SO LIKE I SAID, THEY'LL DISPATCH CAREFLIGHT IF AVAILABLE.
BURLESON IF CAREFLIGHT'S NOT AVAILABLE.
AND WHAT WE MEAN BY THAT IS IF IT'S A INTER FACILITY THAT CAN CAN WAIT A LITTLE BIT, AND MEDIC 42 IS GOING UP TO FORT WORTH TO DROP ONE OFF AND THEY CAN DROP THAT OFF AND COME BACK, THEN WE'LL HOLD THAT TRANSFER FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO COME BACK, AND WE'LL UTILIZE THE BURLESON RESOURCES PRIMARILY FOR 911 AND STAY STAY AVAILABLE FOR THAT. WE CAN ALSO IF IT'S A CRUCIAL IF IT'S CRITICAL, TIME SENSITIVE, WE CAN TAKE IT IMMEDIATELY.
OR WE CAN CALL MUTUAL AID IF NEED BE.
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IS EVERYONE ON THOSE AMBULANCES IS A FIREFIGHTER ALSO, SO THEY CAN ALSO SHOW UP TO A FIRE AND ASSIST AT A FIRE.THEY CAN ALSO SHOW UP AT A WRECK AND ASSIST WITH EXTRICATION, DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND LIKE I SAID, SO FAR, UH, IT'S I'D LIKE TO REPORT THAT IT'S GOING WELL WITH ALL OF THAT.
SO AT THIS TIME, I WANT TO TURN IT OVER TO, UH, BLAKE WINDHAM.
HE'S THE ADMINISTRATOR FOR TEXAS HEALTH BURLESON, AND HE'S GOT A QUICK PRESENTATION FOR US.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE WITH YOU THIS EVENING.
AS CHIEF DAVIS MENTIONED, MY NAME IS BLAKE WINDHAM.
I REALLY WANT TO TAKE A BROAD APPROACH, SINCE I DON'T GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT TO THE COUNCIL VERY OFTEN AND REALLY JUST TALK ABOUT THE COLLABORATIONS AND THE EFFORTS WE'VE MADE WITH THE CITY OF BURLESON OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS.
SO TEXAS HEALTH RESOURCES IS THE LARGEST HEALTH SYSTEM IN THE STATE IN THE EXCUSE ME, IN THE DFW AREA ARE THE HEADQUARTERS, AS YOU SEE RIGHT THERE IS IN ARLINGTON OFF OF LAMAR BOULEVARD. AND THEN WE HAVE MORE THAN 20 HOSPITALS ACROSS DFW.
ONE OF THOSE IS TEXAS HEALTH BURLESON.
WE HAVE 25 ACUTE CARE AND SHORT STAY HOSPITALS.
WE HAVE 27,000 EMPLOYEES AND OVER 5500 PHYSICIANS ON THE MEDICAL STAFF.
WE HAVE A BREEZE URGENT CARE WITH 25 LOCATIONS.
TWO OF THOSE ARE IN THE FORT WORTH AREA RIGHT NOW AND ONE COMING TO BURLESON SOON.
WE HAVE A PARTNERSHIP WITH DISPATCH HEALTH TO BRING HEALTH CARE BACK TO YOUR HOME.
SO, UM, SOME OF YOU REMEMBER WHEN YOU COULD HAVE A DOCTOR COME TO YOUR HOUSE AND MAKE HOUSE CALLS? THR HAS BROUGHT THAT BACK THROUGH DISPATCH HEALTH, SO IF YOU'RE NOT FEELING WELL, YOU DON'T FEEL LIKE GOING TO AN URGENT CARE.
GREAT PLACE TO WORK. SO SPECIFICALLY ABOUT TEXAS HEALTH BURLESON.
WE OPENED IN APRIL 2010, SPECIFICALLY ON APRIL FOOL'S DAY 2010, WE SERVE BURLESON JOSHUA, CLEBURNE, ALVARADO, KEENE, GRANDVIEW, AND ALL OF JOHNSON COUNTY 24 OVER SEVEN 365 EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT UNDER THE LICENSE OF TEXAS HEALTH FORT WORTH, WHICH IS SOME OF YOU KNOW, AS HARRIS METHODIST FORT WORTH DOWNTOWN APPROXIMATELY 22,000 PATIENT VOLUME.
EXCUSE ME, PATIENT VISITS PER YEAR IN THE EMERGENCY ROOM ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BUILDING.
WE HAVE PHYSICAL SPORTS, GENERAL, AQUATIC AND VESTIBULAR THERAPY.
BETWEEN 600 700 PATIENT ENCOUNTERS MONTHLY FULL FIVE FULL TIME BOARD CERTIFIED PHYSICAL THERAPISTS.
SAME AND NEXT DAY APPOINTMENTS AVAILABLE.
WE HAVE ON SITE PHYSICIAN OFFICES IN PRIMARY CARE, OBGYN AND CARDIOLOGY.
WE TRY TO EMPLOY A COMMUNITY BENEFIT MODEL, WHICH MEANS THAT IF WE SEE A PARTNERSHIP THAT WE CAN ENGAGE IN WITH ANOTHER ORGANIZATION THAT'S DOING GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY, WE WANT TO SUPPORT THAT ORGANIZATION FINANCIALLY.
WE ARE STRONG SUPPORTERS OF CASA OF JOHNSON COUNTY.
WE SUPPORT THE NORTH JOSHUA ELEMENTARY, STUDENTS OF CHARACTER.
WE SPONSOR, IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY OF BURLESON, THE SUPER SAFETY SATURDAY.
MANY OF YOU HAVE BEEN AT THAT EVENT SEEN A SUCCESS.
MEALS ON WHEELS OF JOHNSON AND ELLIS COUNTY.
HERE AT BURLESON, WE SERVE AS A CLINICAL PRECEPTOR SITE FOR NURSES AND MEDICAL STUDENTS.
SUPER SAFETY SATURDAY IS A COLLABORATION BETWEEN THE CITY OF BURLESON AND TEXAS HEALTH BURLESON.
IT'S REALLY A FOCUS ON COMMUNITY RISK REDUCTION AND KEEPING CHILDREN SAFE FROM COMMON PERILS.
SO THAT WOULD BE FIRE SAFETY, WATER SAFETY, GUN SAFETY, ANY OF THE THINGS THAT YOU WOULD WANT YOUR CHILDREN TO BE AWARE OF, THAT WOULD BE A DANGER TO THEM THAT WOULD PUT THEM IN THE EMERGENCY ROOM OR WORSE.
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WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE PROVIDING RESOURCES TO PARENTS TO MINIMIZE AND MITIGATE THAT RISK.SO AS I MENTIONED, WE ARE YOUR LOCAL EMERGENCY ROOM.
WE SEE APPROXIMATELY 22,000 PATIENTS ANNUALLY.
EVERY PERSON THAT COMES INTO THE EMERGENCY ROOM AT TEXAS HEALTH BURLESON IS SEEN BY A BOARD CERTIFIED EMERGENCY ROOM PHYSICIAN, OF WHICH TWO OF THOSE PHYSICIANS ARE IN THE AUDIENCE TONIGHT. IF YOU HAPPEN TO HAVE MEDICAL QUESTIONS OF THOSE 22,000 PATIENTS, WE TREAT AND RELEASE, ALSO KNOWN AS TREAT AND STREET.
SO WE HAVE A AUTOMATIC ADMISSION PRIVILEGE TO TEXAS HEALTH FORT WORTH.
WE HAVE THE SAME LICENSE AND NATIONAL PROVIDER IDENTIFICATION NUMBER OF AS TEXAS HEALTH FORT WORTH.
JUST A QUICK RUNDOWN OF THE TYPES OF PATIENTS THAT WE SEE IN THE EMERGENCY ROOM.
WE SEE ANYTHING FROM THE MOST MUNDANE OF INJURIES AND ILLNESSES, THE SNIFFLES AND THE SCRATCHES TO THE MOST SERIOUS OF ILLNESSES GUNSHOT WOUNDS, STABBINGS, TRAUMAS, STROKES, STEMS. I'VE LISTED ALL FOR YOU THE TOP ADMITTING DIAGNOSIS IN DESCENDING ORDER IN THE LAST 60 DAYS.
SO YOU CAN SEE THE MOST COMMON ADMITTING DIAGNOSIS IS RESPIRATORY DISTRESS OR FAILURE, FOLLOWED BY ABDOMINAL COMPLICATIONS, CARDIAC PROBLEMS. AND I'VE BROKEN THAT DOWN TO THE THREE MOST COMMON CARDIAC PROBLEMS THAT WE SEE TRAUMA, OF WHICH WE'VE SEEN 18 TRAUMA PATIENTS DIRECTLY ADMITTED TO TEXAS HEALTH FORT WORTH IN THE LAST 60 DAYS.
EMERGENCY SURGERY. SO THAT COULD BE AN EMERGENCY APPENDECTOMY.
AN EMERGENCY CHOLECYSTECTOMY, WHICH WOULD BE A GALLBLADDER REMOVAL.
STROKE OR TIA, FOLLOWED BY ACUTE RENAL FAILURE WITHIN THE PATIENT WOULD NEED DIALYSIS.
AND THAT'S A SPECIALIZED PROCEDURE PERFORMED AT TEXAS HEALTH FORT WORTH.
PATIENTS ARE TREATED AND RELEASED HOME.
SO EVERYONE EVERY SINGLE PATIENT IS EVALUATED BY A PHYSICIAN.
FOR OUR SICKEST AND MOST ACUTELY ILL PATIENTS, WE HAVE AN ON SITE HELIPAD FOR PATIENTS NEEDING URGENT AIR TRANSPORTATION TO OUR LOCAL TRAUMA CENTER, WHICH IS TEXAS HEALTH FORT WORTH, A LEVEL ONE TRAUMA CENTER.
WE UTILIZE THAT HELIPAD BETWEEN 12 AND 15 TIMES A YEAR.
AND IN THOSE KINDS OF PATIENTS, PATIENT CASES, TIME IS HEART, TIME IS BRAIN.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THOSE PATIENTS TAKEN CARE OF IN THE LAST 60 DAYS, JUST TO TELL YOU THE MOST SEVERE PATIENTS THAT WE'VE SEEN, PHYSICIANS AT TEXAS HEALTH BURLESON HAVE ADMITTED SIX PATIENTS TO THE ICU AND SIX PATIENTS TO THE PROGRESSIVE CARE UNIT.
BUT AFTER A PHYSICIAN DETERMINES THAT THEY NEED A HIGHER LEVEL OF CARE, AS I JUST MENTIONED, WE DO WANT TO GET THEM TAKEN TO THE MOST APPROPRIATE FACILITY QUICKLY. SO HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL HAVE.
YOU GOT A NEW FACILITY OPENED UP OVER THAT PLACE, DON'T YOU? SO THAT'S TEXAS HEALTH UGLY.
SO TEXAS HEALTH HUGULEY IS A PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN ADVENT HEALTH AND TEXAS HEALTH RESOURCES.
OKAY, 51% OWNED BY OTHER, 49% OWNED BY ADVENT HEALTH OUT OF FLORIDA.
IT IS. THE OPERATING PARTNER IS ADVENT HEALTH.
THE NAMING AND MAJORITY PARTNER IS TEXAS HEALTH RESOURCES.
THAT'S THE HOOGLY EMERGENCY ROOM.
AND IT'S OPENING IN JANUARY OF 24.
LIKE YOU MENTIONED THAT A BREES FACILITY IS COMING TO BURLESON.
IS THAT CORRECT? IT'S COMING TO THE.
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IT MAY BE TECHNICALLY THE BURLESON AREA MAY BE TECHNICALLY IN THE CITY OF FORT WORTH GEOGRAPHICALLY, BUT IT IS ON THE BORDER OF BURLESON FORT WORTH, AND THAT IS SLATED FOR EARLY 2024.UM, THAT SERVES MORE LIKE A, UM, CARE NOW TYPE.
CORRECT? CORRECT? YES, MA'AM. WOULD IT REQUIRE TRANSPORTS? SO SOME OF THOSE PATIENTS THINKING THAT THEY WANT TO AVOID AN EMERGENCY ROOM OR AVOID CALLING AN AMBULANCE BECAUSE OF THE COST OF DOING SO, THEY WOULD SHOW UP TO AN URGENT CARE. AND MAJORITY OF THE TIME THOSE PATIENTS CAN BE TREATED AND RELEASED.
BUT AS AN URGENT CARE HAS AS AS BURLESON IS LIMITED IN WHAT WE CAN PROVIDE.
URGENT CARES ARE EVEN MORE LIMITED.
SO THOSE WOULD BE YOUR YOUR LOWER ACUITY PATIENTS, YOUR STREP THROAT, YOUR YOUR LOWER ACUITY COVID, YOUR YOUR SCRAPES, YOUR CUTS, YOUR BRUISES, YOUR SUTURES, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
MONDAY THROUGH SUNDAY, 365 DAYS A YEAR.
WE RUN THOSE PERIODICALLY NOW AT DOCTOR'S OFFICES, PLACES LIKE CARENOW, STUFF LIKE THAT.
SO THOSE ARE THOSE ARE JUST 911 CALLS.
THEY DON'T THEY DON'T HAVE A INTER-FACILITY TRANSFER PROCESS SET UP FOR THOSE.
UM, AS FAR AS FROM MY STANDPOINT, EVERYTHING HAS BEEN GOING REALLY WELL.
I THINK THAT THE GUYS HAVE SO MUCH ENERGY.
YOU CAN SEE HOW QUICKLY THE RESPONSE RATES ARE.
IT'S BEEN VERY BUSY THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS.
SO I THINK THAT WAS KIND OF THE CHALLENGE TO TRY TO GET USED TO THAT VOLUME.
THESE ARE ALL HAVE ALREADY BEEN EVALUATED.
THEY KNOW THAT THEY NEED TO BE ADMITTED TO A HOSPITAL.
SO IT'S AN EMERGENCY SITUATION.
AND JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE ACUITY LEVEL IS, HOW FAST THEY NEED TO GO.
UM, AND THAT'S REALLY I THINK THAT'S KIND OF IT.
I THINK THAT EVERYTHING'S PRETTY MUCH BEEN COVERED.
BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY MEDICAL QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS, JUST LET ME KNOW.
AS FAR AS THE BREEZE ONE. YEAH.
IF THERE'S SOMEBODY SICK, THEY USUALLY WILL SAY, HEY, WE RECOMMEND YOU GO TO THE HOSPITAL.
AND IF THEY'RE ACUTELY SICK, THEN IT'S A911 CALL.
SO YEAH. ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. THANK YOU, DOCTOR CORDOVA.
UM, SO JUST LASTLY, JUST A COUPLE OF KEY TAKEAWAYS AND SOME SUCCESSES THAT WE WANT TO JUST TOUT.
UM, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE REAL THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED IN OUR COMMUNITY.
WE WE HAD A NEAR DROWNING THAT HAD A REALLY INCREDIBLE OUTCOME.
UM, WE'VE DELIVERED A COUPLE OF BABIES AT THIS POINT, WHICH IS PRETTY AMAZING.
UM, WE'VE HAD TWO CPR SAVES THAT WE'RE AWARE OF, AND WE THINK THAT THERE MAY BE A COUPLE OF OTHERS THAT WE'RE WAITING ON SOME OUTCOMES ON THOSE TO COME BACK, BUT THESE ARE JUST REAL BIG, SIGNIFICANT THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED.
AND IT'S JUST A TESTAMENT TO OUR FOLKS AND AND HOW DEDICATED THEY ARE TO PROVIDE THAT SERVICE AND HOW DEDICATED OUR, OUR PUBLIC SAFETY COMMUNICATIONS DISPATCHERS ARE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THESE THIS INFORMATION IN TIMELY FASHION.
ONE LAST THING HERE IS WE'VE BEEN IN CONVERSATION WITH DOCTOR CORDOVA AND WITH, UH, BAYLOR SCOTT AND WHITE BURLESON IT'S THE LOCATION OF IT'S A SMALLER E.R.
THAT'S OVER THERE, KIND OF OFF OF 1187.
UM, THE NICE THING ABOUT THIS IS IT HAS IN EIGHT INPATIENT BEDS AS WELL.
SO IT'S A NEW RESOURCE TO US THAT WE'RE GOING TO START UTILIZING.
AND WITH THAT, I'LL BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY OF YOUR QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.
YES, THEY COULD CHOOSE TO GO THERE.
AND SO THE WAY WE HANDLE WHERE WE'RE TAKING SOMEBODY, OBVIOUSLY IT'S VERY SITUATION DEPENDENT.
SO REALLY OUR POLICY IS CLOSEST MOST APPROPRIATE FACILITY WITH PATIENT CHOICE IN MIND.
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HUGUELY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.WE WILL GO THERE UNLESS THEY HAVE A SPECIALTY NEED LIKE A, UM, WE HAVE ECMO CRITERIA IS WHAT WE CALL IT, WHERE WE MAY TAKE SOMEONE DOWNTOWN FOR A SPECIAL MACHINE THAT CAN CIRCULATE THE BLOOD AND AIR IN THEIR LUNGS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, OR TRAUMA, LIKE IF SOMEONE GOT IN A REALLY BAD CAR WRECK OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND THEY HAD SEVERE TRAUMA, WE WOULD GO DOWNTOWN TO JPS OR HARRIS BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE SURGE, THE TRAUMA SURGEONS ON TO TO TAKE CARE OF THAT.
THE WHY, UM, AND THEN PATIENT CHOICE IN MIND, IF IT'S A HOSPITAL THAT'S ON OUR APPROVED LIST, THAT'S IN THE FORT WORTH, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY THE DOWNTOWN HOSPITALS THAT WE HAVE HERE, WE HAVE ONE OVER IN MANSFIELD THAT'S JUST AS CLOSE AS THE ONES TO DOWNTOWN FORT WORTH THAT WE CAN TRANSPORT TO AS WELL, AND THEN OBVIOUSLY TO DR.
BUT TYPICALLY THE MAJORITY OF OUR CALL VOLUME IS GOING TO HOOGLI OR TO THE DOWNTOWN HOSPITALS.
ANYTHING ELSE? MAYOR AND COUNCIL I DO HAVE SPEAKER CARDS FOR THIS ITEM.
THE FIRST SPEAKER CARD I HAVE IS A GENTRY COTTON.
I'M SORRY. ONE, ONE LAST THING.
WE HAVE TWO FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS THAT WE WANT TO BRING BACK TO YOU.
SORRY, I ALMOST MISSED BRINGING THIS UP.
UM, ONE IS THAT, UM, WE NEED TO UPDATE OUR FEE SCHEDULE, POTENTIALLY.
WHENEVER I WAS TALKING THROUGH THE EMERGENCY AND NON-EMERGENCY, UM, UM, TRANSPORTS, SOMETIMES A CALL CAN COME IN FROM, LIKE, A REHAB OR NURSING HOME FACILITY, AND IT'S NOT REALLY CLEAR IF IT IS A TRANSPORT OR A911 CALL.
WE JUST DON'T HAVE THAT BAKED INTO OUR FEE SCHEDULE AT THIS POINT.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING TO BRING BACK AT A AT A LATER DATE.
UM, AND WHAT THAT DOES IS IF A PATIENT'S INSURANCE DOESN'T PAY OR SOMEONE DOESN'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO PAY, TEXAS HEALTH BURLESON WANTS TO BE COMMITTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE RESOURCES COMING THERE ARE TAKEN CARE OF FINANCIALLY.
AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE WOULD LIKE TO BRING BACK TO COUNCIL AS WELL, JUST TO TALK THROUGH THAT.
SO WHEN WE FIND OURSELVES IN THOSE SITUATIONS, WE CAN TRY TO RECOUP THOSE COSTS AS WELL.
SO SORRY ABOUT FORGETTING THAT.
MAYOR COUNCIL, THANK YOU, CHIEF, FOR THE PRESENTATION.
I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD INFORMATION THAT WAS PROVIDED THERE.
UM, HOWEVER, I STILL DO HAVE A CONCERNS.
MS LICENSE. WHY IS THAT? I THINK IT'S BECAUSE IT DOES SHOW THAT THESE DO PUT A STRAIN ON CALL VOLUME, AND IT PUTS A STRAIN ON THE FIRE DEPARTMENT ON THE RESOURCES.
I MEAN, I DON'T DISAGREE WITH WHAT CHIEF DAVIS ASKED FOR MORE RESOURCES FROM THE CITY MANAGER BECAUSE I THINK IT'S NEEDED, BECAUSE, I MEAN, SOME DAYS THEY'RE RESPONDING TO DOING 16 TRANSPORTS A DAY, WHICH IS INCREDIBLE.
BUT WHAT WE SAW FROM CAREFLIGHT'S DATA IS THAT 105 TIMES THE CAREFLIGHT AMBULANCE SHOWED UP AT A CITY OF BURLESON RESIDENT'S HOUSE INSTEAD OF A BURLESON AMBULANCE. THAT SHOULD TELL US THAT WE SHOULD NOT BE STILL DOING THESE TRANSFERS.
WE DON'T HAVE TO CONTINUE TO DO THESE TRANSFERS.
BUT THE CITY OF BURLESON IS SHOULDERING THESE RESPONSIBILITIES THAT IT SHOULD NOT BE SHOULDERING.
AND FOR THAT, LIKE I SAID, I BELIEVE THAT IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE BURLESON FIRE DEPARTMENT SHOULD STOP THESE TRANSFERS, REEVALUATE THEIR THEIR RESOURCES AND GIVE IT A BREAK, AND THEN COME BACK AND CAREFULLY REVIEW WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO, BECAUSE THERE'S THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF, UM, A
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LOT OF CALLS THAT HAVE COME OUT.ALTHOUGH, YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE ALL THE HARD WORK THAT THE FIREFIGHTERS HAVE BEEN DOING AND CHIEF DAVIS HAS BEEN DOING, BECAUSE I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN A TASK, I THINK, OVER A LONG TERME, THE THE EMS SYSTEM FOR BURLESON IS GOING TO BE GREAT.
AND I THINK IT'S IT'S ALREADY DOING A LOT OF GREAT THINGS.
BUT, UM, WE HAVE AN OPTION TO NOT DO THE ANY INTERFACILITY TRANSFERS.
THANK YOU. I'M SORRY I MISSED YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AT THE BEGINNING.
WHAT WAS IT? IT'S GENTRY COTTON.
OKAY. NEXT UP IS BILL JANISCH.
JANUARY 1ST 17. NORTHEAST CLINTON I APPRECIATE A LOT OF WHAT JANUARY JUST HAD TO SAY.
I MEAN, THAT'S A LOT OF MY CONCERNS, TOO.
UM, I ATTEND ALL THESE COUNCIL MEETINGS.
I ATTEND SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETINGS, UH, FOR REASONS OF PICKING UP ON A SMALL TALK.
THAT'S, UH, WHEN BURLESON MS IS GOING TO SHOW UP.
IT'S GOING TO BE PEOPLE WE WENT TO SCHOOL WITH THAT WE GREW UP WITH OUR NEIGHBORS, YOU KNOW, OTHER CITIZENS, PEOPLE THAT WOULD PUT THAT EXTRA LITTLE BIT OF EFFORT, YOU KNOW, IN CARE, UH, FOR THESE TRANSFERS, UH, EMERGENCY SERVICES, WHATEVER.
YOU ALWAYS HEAR SMALL TALK, GOSSIP, STUFF LIKE THAT.
UH, MISTER DAVIS, IF YOU'D LIKE TO ANSWER.
HAS DURING ANY OF THIS TIME, HAVE WE BEEN ANY OF OUR ALL OF OUR AMBULANCES BEEN OUT WHERE WE HAD ZERO LEFT? UH, YES, WE DO GO LEVEL ZERO SOMETIMES THROUGHOUT THE SYSTEM, AND THAT'S ANTICIPATED.
BUT THANKFULLY, TODAY WE'VE ONLY HAD TO CALL MUTUAL AID IN TWICE FROM THE CITY OF CROWLEY.
UM, BESIDES THE SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE.
SO WE'RE MONITORING THAT AND WE PAY CLOSE ATTENTION TO THAT.
YEAH. AND I CAN SEE THAT BECAUSE THERE WAS A MAJOR WRECK OR SOME KIND OF CATASTROPHE.
SO THERE IS A TIME WE COULD BE DEPLETED.
AND I'M WONDERING DOES WHEN CARE OR SOMEBODY LIKE THAT OR WHEN WE HAVE 3 OR 4 OUT DOES CAREFLIGHT COME AND RESTAFF EACH? UM, SO GREAT QUESTION.
UM, CAREFLIGHT'S BEEN A GREAT PARTNER AND A LOT OF TIMES WHENEVER WE GET BUSY OR WE NOTICE THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE CLOSE TO GOING LEVEL ZERO, OR WE DO GO LEVEL ZERO, WE BRING A MEDIC 41 OUT OF CLAYBURNE COMES UP TO TO HELP SUPPORT US AS WELL.
AND THAT'S BEEN THAT'S WORKED OUT WELL FOR US.
WHEN 911 CALLS, THEY'VE HAD TO COME IN AND I DO REMEMBER THEIR RESPONSE TIMES.
AND THAT WAS ANOTHER THING THAT WE WERE SOLD ON A BILL OF GOODS.
AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY'S LIFE IS, YOU KNOW, IMPORTANT.
I'LL SAY WHAT NEEDS TO BE SAID.
NO, SIR. I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT.
SO THEY WILL IMMEDIATELY BE RESPONDING IF AVAILABLE AND THEN WE CAN UTILIZE.
SO YEAH, AND I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THE THE EMS GUYS YOU HAVE THROUGHOUT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
AND ONE OTHER QUESTION I CAN THINK OF COUPONS.
PEOPLE GO OUT TO EAT WITH COUPONS AND STUFF.
YOU GOT PEOPLE WITH MEDSTAR MEMBERSHIPS CAREFLIGHT MEMBERSHIPS.
I KNOW BURLESON DOESN'T HAVE ONE.
IF THERE WAS A CASE OF A 911 CALL WHERE IT WAS AN EMERGENCY SITUATION AND THE PERSON DEMANDED TO HAVE ONE OF THEIR MEMBERSHIP CARDS USED, EITHER MEDSTAR CAREFLIGHT OR WHOEVER, WHAT DO YOU GUYS DO IN A CASE LIKE THAT? SO WE DIDN'T.
THE CITY OF BURLESON DOESN'T HAVE A MEMBERSHIP PROGRAM.
WE'RE MONITORING THAT FOR SIX MONTH PERIOD.
THERE WAS A NEW SENATE BILL THAT CAME OUT BACK IN SEPTEMBER THAT DID AWAY WITH BALANCE BILLING.
AND SO OUR BILLING ADVISORS HAVE SAID AT THIS POINT THAT THEY WOULD RECOMMEND AGAINST THAT, BECAUSE THE PRACTICE OF BALANCE BILLING IS WHAT THAT PROTECTS PATIENTS FROM. UM, SO AT THIS POINT, WE'RE MONITORING THAT AND WE'RE HAPPY TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL AT SOME POINT WITH SOME OPTIONS.
AND I THINK YOU, YOU WOULD MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION ON THIS.
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I'VE GOT FRIENDS THAT ARE FIREMEN, FRIENDS THAT ARE FORMER FIREMEN HERE AND STUFF.I GOT YOU HERE ALL THE SMALL TALK AND STUFF, YOU KNOW, DISGRUNTLED PEOPLE.
UH, LIKE I SAID, I HAD CONCERNS WITH THAT.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, I HOPE THAT YOU'LL KNOW THAT I'LL BE HOLDING YOU GUYS ACCOUNTABLE.
BUT ANYBODY ELSE WITHIN THE CITY RANKS.
AND I DO APPRECIATE ALL YOU GUYS.
SERVICE. THANKS. THANK YOU FOR THAT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS I CAN ANSWER? I HAVE MORE SPEAKER CARDS.
ANOTHER SPEAKER CARD. UH, JOE GROSSMAN.
MAYOR COUNCILMAN. CHIEF DAVIS.
MY NAME IS JOE GROSSMAN, 1620 TAYLOR RIDGE COURT.
I HAVE BEEN A FIREFIGHTER AND PARAMEDIC FOR NEARLY TWO DECADES NOW.
I CURRENTLY AM A LIEUTENANT FOR THE CITY OF ARLINGTON.
INITIALLY, I HAD SOME CONCERNS ABOUT HOW THE INTER-FACILITY TRANSFER WAS INITIALLY ROLLED OUT.
UM, SPEAKING WITH GUYS AND I ALSO TEACH AT THE COLLEGE AT TARRANT COUNTY COLLEGE OF THE FIRESIDE.
MY CONCERN WITH THAT IS INTER-FACILITY TRANSFERS.
I'M PROUD TO LIVE IN BURLESON AND THAT WE HAVE AMBULANCES NOW WITH PARAMEDICS.
LIKE I SAID, I'VE BEEN ONE FOR 20 YEARS, SO I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU ALL DO.
CERTAIN DESCRIPTIONS THAT THEY SAID WERE WERE VERY ACCURATE WITH WHAT THEY GAVE.
BUT THERE'S A REASON THAT ONLY ONE OTHER CITY IN THE METROPLEX DOES IN-FACILITY TRANSFERS.
AND THAT'S BECAUSE OF THE EFFECT OF RESPONSE TIMES AND WHAT IT TAKES AWAY FROM THE CITIZENS.
I'M PAYING TAXES FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, AND I DON'T KNOW ALL THE FINANCIAL SIDE OF THE CITY, BUT FIRE DEPARTMENTS ARE FAIRLY UNFUNDED LIABILITY BECAUSE WE DON'T CREATE NEW REVENUE. AND THERE'S AN OLD SAYING IN THE FIRE SERVICE THAT 911 SAVES LIVES, TRANSFERS MAKE MONEY.
AND I WAS WORRIED THAT WE WERE PRIORITIZING MONEY OVER SAVING LIVES WITH THE AMBULANCE SERVICE.
LIKE I SAID, WITH WHAT THEY'VE DONE NOW, WHERE THEY'RE NO LONGER THE PRIMARY INTER-FACILITY.
UM, IT DOES MAKE ME FEEL BETTER ABOUT IT, BUT ANY INTER-FACILITY TRANSFERS CREATES A CONCERN, BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS NOW IS, IF, YOU KNOW, I'M PAYING FOR THAT INSURANCE, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, THE PARAMEDICS ARE INSURANCE POLICY FOR THE CITY.
I DON'T KNOW HOW CAREFLIGHT'S TRAINED PER SE.
I DO KNOW THAT THERE'S GENERALLY A HIGHER TURNOVER RATE IN PRIVATE EMS, WHICH AFFECTS THE LEVEL OF TRAINING, AND NOT ALL OF THEM PER SE, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A WHOLE LOT MORE TENURE AND STEADINESS WITH YOUR FIRE DEPARTMENT AMBULANCES RESPONDING TO YOUR 911 CALLS IF THEY ARE BEING PULLED FOR THOSE NON FACILITY OR EXCUSE ME, THESE INTER-FACILITY NON-EMERGENCY TRANSFERS YOU'RE SENDING A PARAMEDIC WHO HAS TWO YEARS OF SCHOOLING HAS TRAINING SIMILAR TO AN ANESTHESIOLOGIST.
A RESPIRATORY THERAPIST HAS ALL THE SAME CAPABILITIES IN A CPR AS A HOSPITAL DOES TO TAKE A NON-EMERGENCY PERSON TO A NON-EMERGENCY SPOT, INSTEAD OF THOSE SERVICES AND THOSE POTENTIAL THINGS THAT WE NEED BEING HERE IN TIME AND BE ABLE TO RESPOND ON A TIMELY FASHION.
LIKE I SAID, ONCE AGAIN, CREDIT FOR Y'ALL FOR REARRANGING THAT.
AND IT WENT IT SPREAD LIKE WILDFIRE THROUGHOUT THE FIRE SERVICE THAT BURLESON WAS DOING THAT AND EVERYONE WAS KIND OF JAW DROPPED THAT THAT HAPPENS BECAUSE THE PRECEDENT HAS BEEN SET THAT MUNICIPALITIES OR CITY RAN FIRE DEPARTMENTS AND AMBULANCES CAN'T AFFORD TO DO INTER-FACILITY TRANSFERS BECAUSE THE AMOUNT OF CALL VOLUME, AS THE CALL VOLUME INCREASES, YOU ARE TAKING YOUR SPRINTERS AND MAKING THEM RUN MILES BEFORE THEY ACTUALLY HAVE THEIR SPRINT CALLS, IF YOU WILL, FOR FOR A LACK OF A BETTER ANALOGY. AND THAT'S MY CONCERN, BECAUSE IF CHIEF AND YOU MAYBE ANSWER THIS, WILL THEY DO A NON-EMERGENCY TRANSFER AT FOUR IN THE MORNING? SO OUR GOAL IS TO NOT DO ANY NON-EMERGENCY TRANSFERS.
WE AND WE NEVER SET THE SYSTEM UP THAT WAY.
WE WERE NOT GOING TO RUN THE NON-EMERGENCY OUT OF THE NURSING HOME THOSE KIND OF.
AND WE HAVE FOUND OURSELVES ON SOME OF THOSE BECAUSE THEY COME IN LIKE THEY'RE A911 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CONTINUE TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH THOSE FACILITIES AND HELP THAT PROCESS.
THAT'S NOT OUR PRIMARY OBJECTIVE.
UM, I FORGOT TO MENTION BRANT STOVALL FROM CAREFLIGHT IS HERE AS WELL.
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IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS FOR BRANT, UM, HE CAN SPEAK ON CAREFLIGHT AND THEIR PROCESSES.UM, BUT, UH, SO THEY'RE THEY'RE FIRST UP FOR ALL OF THAT.
WE ALSO HAVE ANOTHER, UM, SMALLER STANDALONE E.R.
UM, SO I HOPE THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION.
TO TAKE CARE OF YOU. WE NEED YOU TO GO FAST.
THAT'S STILL AN EMERGENCY CALL.
HEY, I'VE GOT SURGERY OR REHAB.
I WANT MY TAXES. I KNOW WHAT I KNOW WHAT THIS JOB IS.
YOU KNOW, WE WE TALK ABOUT, UM, A MARGIN OF ERROR.
YOU KNOW, A MARGIN OF ERROR FOR A PARAMEDIC IS ZERO.
ALL RIGHT? AND A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD FIND THAT UNREALISTIC IN ANY OTHER JOB.
BUT ULTIMATELY, WHEN SOMETHING GOES WRONG, THAT'S THE MARGIN OF ERROR THAT WE ARE JUDGED ON, YOU KNOW? AND SO I WOULD RATHER ALL THAT BE FOCUSED IN ON THE EMERGENCY 911 CALLS THAN SOME OF THE NON-EMERGENCY INTERFACILITY CALLS, WHERE THEY'RE NOT TIME SENSITIVE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UH, I HAVE ANOTHER SPEAKER CARD, UH, MIKE JONES.
THIS IS. MAYOR COUNCIL MIKE JONES, PRESIDENT, LOCAL 405.
I JUST WANT TO, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH EVERYBODY UP HERE.
AND JUST KIND OF WANTED TO TOUCH BASE TO LET YOU GUYS KNOW WHERE WE'RE AT.
UM, THAT, UH, WE'VE HAD VERY OPEN DIALOG WITH CHIEF DAVIS, CHIEF JACOBS AND CITY MANAGER LUDWIG.
UM, ON ON THIS AND, UM, AS OF, LIKE THEY SAID AS OF LAST WEDNESDAY.
UH, CITY MANAGER WOULD ACTUALLY REACHED OUT TO ME.
UM, AND HAD A VERY GOOD OPEN DIALOG ABOUT, YOU KNOW, FIREFIGHTERS AND WHERE WE'RE AT MORALE WISE AND HOW THINGS ARE GOING AND MADE THE DECISION TO GO WHERE, UM, OUR FIREFIGHTERS ARE ABLE TO STAY IN THE HOUSE BECAUSE THAT WAS SOME OF THE CONCERNS FROM THE ASSOCIATION STANDPOINT.
UM, WAS CREW CONTINUITY IN THOSE KIND OF THINGS.
AND SO I JUST THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR YOU GUYS TO HEAR THAT THERE IS OPEN DIALOG GOING ON.
SO, UM, LIKE I SAID, WE'RE, UM, WITH THE CHANGES HAPPENING, WE'RE GOOD WITH IT.
NOT THAT WE WANT TO TAKE CARE OF EVERYBODY, BUT WE DO.
LIKE CHIEF DAVIS SAID IN HIS PRESENTATION, YOU KNOW, WE GOT FIREFIGHTERS THAT WHEN THEY'RE ON THE AMBULANCE, IF WE CAN GET PATIENTS THERE UTILIZING CAREFLIGHT, YOU KNOW, AND THEY CAN GET OUT THERE IN A TIMELY MANNER BECAUSE THEY'RE SICK AND THEY NEED THINGS TOO.
THAT'S GREAT. AND THEN BUT WE STILL HAVE FIREFIGHTERS HERE.
AND WE APPRECIATE YOU, CITY MANAGER, FOR FOR REACHING OUT AND TALKING WITH US.
THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? CASEY JUST LOOKED AT ME LIKE, DO YOU HAVE ANOTHER SPEAKER CARD? OH NO, I APOLOGIZE.
I HAVE NOTHING UNDER MY I HAVE NOTHING IN MY SLEEVES.
NO, I HAVE NO OTHER SPEAKER CARDS.
AND I APPRECIATE HOW AGGRESSIVE WE'RE BEING IN REVIEWING WHAT IS WORKING.
BUT ULTIMATELY, WE MADE THIS DECISION TO CARE FOR OUR CITIZENS FIRST.
IF THERE WAS A WAY TO PROVIDE IT AT NO COST, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE IDEAL.
BUT UM, ULTIMATELY IT WAS ABOUT TAKING CARE OF OUR CITIZENS.
AND SO WE NOT ONLY DO WE HAVE VERY WELL TRAINED PARAMEDIC AND EMS, UM, CAPABILITIES, BUT THESE ARE
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FIRST AND FOREMOST OUR FIREFIGHTERS AS WELL.AND THEY'RE JUST DRIVING IN A DIFFERENT VEHICLE.
SO, UM, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE TAKING CARE OF CITIZENS AND ALSO THE FIREFIGHTERS.
SOMETHING THAT I VOICED A NUMBER OF TIMES WAS BURNOUT AND OVEREXTENSION.
WE WANT OUR WE HAVE A FAIRLY YOUNG FIRE DEPARTMENT NOW.
WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS RETIRING.
AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WHEN AND IF A BURLESON CITIZEN NEEDS THAT SERVICE, THEY'RE GETTING THAT WHICH WE PROMISED THEM, WHICH WAS A, YOU KNOW, THAT FAMILIAR FACE THAT, UM, HIGHLY TRAINED, THAT WELL SUPPORTED, HAS A, YOU KNOW, A STRUCTURE OF COMMAND WHERE THEY'VE GOT ADDITIONAL BACKUPS.
THAT'S ALL THE SELLING POINTS THAT HELPED US MAKE THIS DECISION.
UM, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A PROGRAM THAT'S TOP NOTCH, BUT WE CAN'T RUN IT RAGGED.
AND SO, UM, I APPRECIATE THAT YOU'RE REVIEWING THE NUMBER OF CALLS, WHAT THOSE CALLS ARE LOOKING LIKE AND NOT PRIORITIZING OR PRIORITIZING 911 CALLS OVER TRANSPORTS.
BECAUSE WHILE THOSE MAY STILL BE BURLESON CITIZENS THAT NEED OUR NEED OUR SERVICES JUST AS MUCH, WE STILL HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT FIREFIGHTERS ARE AVAILABLE FOR SPECIFIC CALLS TOO.
SO I APPRECIATE THE THE EVALUATIONS THAT ARE TAKING PLACE AND THE CONTINUATION OF.
THOSE AND JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO EVERYONE.
THAT'S PROVIDING A TREMENDOUS SERVICE.
AND SO I JUST REALLY WANT TO COMMEND YOU ALL AND SAY THANKS.
YES, SIR. AND BUT I WOULD LIKE PROBABLY AT THE END OF JANUARY MAYBE LET'S BRING THE DATA AGAIN SINCE NOW WE'RE RUNNING, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OTHER OPTIONS WE HAVE PASSED THIS OTHER THAN NOT DOING TRANSPORTS.
LOOKING AT IF THERE ARE ANY ADDITIONAL THINGS, PARTNERSHIPS WE COULD LOOK AT OR MUTUAL AID AGREEMENTS TO COVER THOSE CALLS, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE SOME OF SOME OTHER OPTIONS THAT WE COULD CONSIDER TO ENSURE THAT BFD'S HERE FIRST, AND COVERING THESE ROLES FIRST AND THEN AND UNDERSTAND WHAT OUR OBLIGATION IS AND ENSURING THAT ALL OF THAT'S COVERED.
BUT ARE THERE ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR MUTUAL AID AGREEMENTS TO COVER THOSE? YES, MA'AM. OKAY.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
[8.C. Receive a report, hold a discussion and provide staff direction regarding the naming of the Public Safety Complex. (Staff Presenter: Eric Oscarson, Deputy City Manager)]
STAFF. PRESENTER IS ERIC OSCARSSON, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER.YOU'RE CLEARING THE ROOM ERIC I SEE THAT.
THERE YOU GO. ERIC, YOU HAVE TO STAY.
I SEE THAT. SEE? NO OFFENSE. NO, IT'S ALL RIGHT.
IT'S ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING AGAIN, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
UM, I GUESS THIS IS THE LAST ONE FOR TONIGHT.
I JUST WANT TO SAY, UH, WE DON'T HAVE ANOTHER MEETING BEFORE THE HOLIDAYS, SO MERRY CHRISTMAS.
HAPPY NEW YEAR. I'LL SEE EVERYBODY ON THE ON THE OTHER SIDE.
UM, THOSE TWO ADDRESSES AND THE ACREAGE OF THE OF THE LOCATION, AS YOU KNOW, THE FUTURE RENDERING OF THIS SITE, THIS IS THE LATEST RENDERING OF THAT COMPLEX. UM, OBVIOUSLY, WE'LL BE TAKING UP THE ENTIRE PARCEL, REPLANNING AND MAKING IT ONE LARGE SITE.
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25 TO BE COMPLETED IN FISCAL YEAR 27.JUST FOR A QUICK REVIEW FOR A NAMING POLICY OF THIS FACILITY, YOU CAN NAME A PUBLIC PROPERTY AFTER A PUBLIC OFFICIAL, AFTER THEY HAVE SERVED WITH DISTINCTION AND BEEN OUT OF PUBLIC OFFICE FOR TWO YEARS.
UM, THIS WOULD HAVE TO BE PASSED VIA A RESOLUTION FOLLOWING A PUBLIC HEARING, AND THE CITY MANAGER OR THEIR DESIGNEE WOULD PRESENT A LIST OF SUGGESTED NAMES TO COUNCIL FOR ITS CONSIDERATION. UM, AND THEN THOSE WOULD BE BROUGHT FORWARD, AND THE COUNCIL WOULD ADOPT A RESOLUTION FORMALLY NAMING THAT PROPERTY.
DEPENDING ON THE CONVERSATION THIS EVENING, WE COULD COME FORWARD WITH A PUBLIC HEARING AND A RESOLUTION WORKING WITH THE CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE AT A FUTURE MEETING, HOPEFULLY IN FEBRUARY.
UM, AS WE START THE DESIGN OF THE FACILITIES, UM, AND THEN ANYTHING, ANY DECISIONS MADE, SIGNAGE AND, UH, WOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE DESIGN AND THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE NEW FACILITY AS PART OF THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS.
AND WITH THAT, I WILL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.
UM, NICK KERR, BILL STRIBLING, THESE WERE ALL PEOPLE THAT I'VE KNOWN.
JUDY HAYEK, RICHARD BRANSON, UH, AND THEN OUR VERY OWN JIM BAILEY AND OBVIOUSLY MAYOR VERA CALVIN.
UH, ALL OF THESE FINE AND WONDERFUL PEOPLE THAT DID GREAT THINGS FOR THEIR COMMUNITY.
BUT I THINK THAT NO ONE COULD CLAIM THAT ANY MAYOR IN THE CITY OF BURLESON HAS EVER DONE MORE FOR, UH, THE TRANSFORMATION OF THE CITY FROM WHAT IT WAS WHEN HIS SERVICE BEGAN, WHEN OLD TOWN WAS JUST BARELY HERE AT ALL TO WHERE WE ARE NOW.
AND, UH, THE MANY, MANY THINGS THAT, UH, THAT KEN AND HIS SERVICE AND HIS VISION AND HIS LEADERSHIP BROUGHT TO THE COMMUNITY, IT ALL KIND OF CAME HOME TO ME WHEN WE HAD THE CHRISTMAS CELEBRATION THE OTHER NIGHT, AND I WAS WALKING ALONG THE PROMENADE, AND FOR SOME REASON I BEGAN TO THINK, WELL, WHAT WOULD THIS WHAT DOES THIS LOOK LIKE THROUGH THE EYES OF CHILDREN GROWING UP IN OUR IN OUR CITY NOWADAYS, I'D HAVE TO SAY THE PLAZA OBVIOUSLY WASN'T THERE.
OLD TOWN, UH, WAS ONLY GETTING STARTED.
AND THAT CHILD THAT GROWS UP IN BURLESON MAY PLAY BASEBALL AT CHISINAU FIELDS OR SOCCER AT THE BARTLETT COMPLEX. THEY MAY SERVE ON THE MAYOR'S YOUTH COUNCIL, WHICH WAS ANOTHER OF KEN'S INITIATIVES.
THEY MAY, UH, GO TO COLLEGE HERE IN BURLESON, WHICH WOULDN'T HAVE HAPPENED HAD IT NOT BEEN, UH, FOR KEN AND SOME OTHERS THAT CONTRIBUTED TO THAT, AND LET ALONE THE BURLESON OPPORTUNITY FUND, MIGHT HAVE BEEN THEIR MEANS OF BEING ABLE TO COME HERE AND GO TO COLLEGE.
AND IT OCCURRED TO ME THAT WHAT KEN DID IS KEN GAVE US THE STUFF THAT HOMETOWNS WERE MADE OF.
AND I THINK THIS WOULD BE A WONDERFUL WAY TO HONOR THAT, THAT LEADERSHIP FOR ALL TIME.
DAN, I SUPPORT IT AND I AGREE WITH YOU 100%.
I DIDN'T KNOW KEN CHEDDAR PERSONALLY.
AND THAT'S THE LEAST WE CAN DO FOR HIM NOW.
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AND I I'M FOR THE INITIATIVE.I TOO WOULD STRONGLY SUPPORT THAT.
I'VE KNOWN KEN FOR QUITE SOME TIME, AND, UH, HE AND I HAVE HAD SOME SPIRITED CONVERSATIONS ON HOW TO SPEND MONEY OR NOT SPEND MONEY.
BUT THROUGH IT ALL, HE HE HE HE DID BRING US FORWARD.
AND I CERTAINLY DO NOT BELIEVE THAT WE WOULD BE IN THE SHAPE WE'RE IN RIGHT NOW.
ALL THE WONDERFUL THINGS WE WE HAVE WERE IT NOT FOR KEN AND HIS VISION.
SO I WOULD HIGHLY DOUBT I WOULD HIGHLY SUPPORT THAT.
YOU KNOW, DAN, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I HAD IN MIND.
WE TALKED ABOUT A LONG TIME AGO BECAUSE KEN HAS ALWAYS BEEN A GOOD FRIEND OF MINE.
WE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT POINTS OF VIEW, BUT WE CAN AT LEAST HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH KEN AND I.
UH, HE ALWAYS BABYSIT RYAN AND COREY AND GOOD FRIEND OF OURS.
I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THIS FORWARD.
AND, UM, FOR SOME THAT MAY NOT KNOW, HIS PROFESSIONAL JOB IS IS WORKING ALONGSIDE LAW ENFORCEMENT.
AND HE SPEARHEADED SOME LOCAL INITIATIVES, SUCH AS THE STRANGULATION.
UM, ORDINANCE THAT WE HAVE AND SOME OTHER THINGS THAT ARE IN LINE WITH PUBLIC SAFETY.
AND SO I THINK IT'S FITTING AND APPROPRIATE.
SO I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THAT FORWARD.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
THAT BRINGS US TO SECTION NINE, CITY COUNCIL REQUEST FOR FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS AND REPORTS.
[9. CITY COUNCIL REQUESTS AND FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS AND REPORTS]
YOU LIKE DAN? JUST NOT. THAT'LL MOVE US ON TO TEN.WE DO HAVE A NEED FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION.
[10. RECESS INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION (Part 2 of 2)]
IN ACCORDANCE WITH CHAPTER 5.51 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, THE CITY COUNCIL WILL CONVENE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION IN THE CITY COUNCIL WORK ROOM IN CITY HALL TO CONDUCT A CLOSED MEETING TO DISCUSS ITEMS PURSUANT TO SECTION 551.07155, 1.072 AND 551.087. MAYOR, IF YOU COULD ASK FOR A VOTE, IS THERE A MOTION TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION? I GOT THE MOTION.A SECOND BY LARRY. PLEASE VOTE.
PASSES UNANIMOUS. WE'RE GOING TO SESSION AT 857.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.