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I'M GOING TO OPEN THE SESSION UP AT 5:30.

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

UH, TONIGHT WE HAVE THE WORLD FAMOUS STACY SINGLETON GOING TO SAY THE INVOCATION FOR US.

WOULD EVERYBODY PLEASE RISE FOR OUR PLEDGES AND OUR PRAYER? SHALL WE PRAY? OUR MOST GRACIOUS HEAVENLY FATHER, WE COME TO YOU TODAY FIRST OFF TO TELL YOU WE LOVE YOU AND WE THANK YOU.

WE THANK YOU FOR THE MANY BLESSINGS YOU'VE GIVEN, EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US, FOR THE MANY BLESSINGS YOU'VE GIVEN OUR FINE CITY, AND FOR THE BLESSINGS YOU'VE GIVEN THESE MEN AND WOMEN THAT SERVE OUR CITY UPON THE COUNCIL.

FATHER, WE ALSO PRAY FOR ALL THE EMPLOYEES OF THE CITY AS THEY DO AN OUTSTANDING JOB.

BE WITH THEM AS THEY GO THROUGH THEIR DAY TO DAY TASK, AND JUST WATCH OVER THEM AND KEEP THEM SAFE.

FATHER, WE ASK THAT YOU GO WITH US THROUGH THIS MEETING.

LET GREAT DECISIONS BE MADE.

LET THE RIGHT DECISIONS BE MADE.

AND FATHER, LET THOSE THAT ARE PRESENTING DO A GREAT JOB AND JUST GIVE THEIR POINTS.

FATHER, THANK YOU FOR OUR CITY.

THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO.

IN JESUS NAME WE PRAY.

AMEN. IS IT STILL ALIVE? THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.

ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

ARTIFACTS LIKE OTHER JESUS TO BE TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE INDIVISIBLE.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

THAT BRINGS US TO SECTION TWO PUBLIC PRESENTATIONS.

TWO A IS PROCLAMATIONS.

WE HAVE NO PROCLAMATIONS THIS EVENING.

UH, TWO B IS PRESENTATIONS AND WE HAVE NO PRESENTATIONS THIS EVENING THAT MOVES US ON TO ITEM TWO C COMMUNITY INTEREST ITEMS.

[2.C.Community Interest Items]

MADAM MAYOR.

WELL, I'D BE REMISS NOT TO SAY A BIG THANK YOU TO EVERYONE THAT STAGED AND CARRIED OFF OUR CHRISTMAS CELEBRATION LAST WEEKEND.

UH, MANY, MANY, MANY KUDOS FROM PEOPLE THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY.

UH, ON A LOT OF THE THINGS, THE WAY THE THE FACILITY WAS DONE AND THE DRONE SHOW APPARENTLY IS JUST HAS KNOCKED IT OUT OF THE PARK AS FAR AS EVERYBODY'S CONCERNED.

I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE GREATEST CHANGES WE'VE MADE.

BUT, UH, THANKS FOR EVERYONE FOR FOR THE WORK AND THE HELP GETTING THE PARADE AND AND THE DRONE SHOW AND ALL THE FESTIVITIES CARRIED OFF, SO.

THANK YOU. I'D LIKE TO THANK THE STAFF FOR THE SANTA BREAKFAST.

WE WENT OUT THERE AND SPENT SOME TIME THAT MORNING WITH SANTA CLAUS AND THE GRINCH.

UH, THE MAYOR. I WANT TO THANK HIM.

HE SPENT SIX HOURS WAITING ON TABLES.

CLEANING TABLES.

DID AN EXCELLENT JOB.

I WOULD HIRE HIM.

THANK GOODNESS FOR ADVIL.

THANKS TO ADVIL, I'D LIKE TO THANK JEN AND HER EMPLOYEES FOR THE PANCAKES AND THE SAUSAGE THEY WORKED OUT IN THAT COLD WEATHER BEHIND THE BUILDING.

DID A GREAT JOB OF KEEPING THE FOOD GOING.

I THINK THERE WAS OVER 900 PEOPLE SERVED THAT MORNING, SO KUDOS TO THE CITY, THE STAFF FOR PULLING OFF A GREAT PRESENTATION FOR SANTA BREAKFAST.

THANK YOU. WENT TO RUSSELL FARM LIGHT SHOW.

IT WAS GREAT.

UH, I HOPE A LOT OF FOLKS GOT A CHANCE TO GO OUT THERE AND SEE THAT, BECAUSE IT WAS MOST CERTAINLY, WELL, WELL WORTH GOING OUT.

ALSO WENT TO THE SENIOR CITIZENS CRAFTS SHOW AND SALE, AND IT WAS ALSO GREAT SINCE I'M ONE OF THEM, I REALLY DID ENJOY IT.

I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE CITY WORKERS ALSO FOR THE PARADE AND FOR JEN AND HER STAFF OUT THERE AT THE PANCAKES.

I HAD THREE GRANDSONS COME OVER FROM MIDLOTHIAN AND JUST ENJOYED THE HECK OUT OF THAT.

UH, BREAKFAST WITH SANTA.

IT WAS GREAT. AND ALL THE WORKERS THAT BEHIND THE SCENES ON THAT CHRISTMAS PARADE DID A FANTASTIC JOB AT, UH, CHIEF CORDELL, OUR NEW, UH, TV CELEBRITY.

UM, BUT APPRECIATE EVERYBODY.

THANKS. I WANT TO MAKE A PLUG FOR SOMETHING NEW THAT WE ARE LAUNCHING COME JANUARY.

WE ARE INTRODUCING BURLESON 101 CIVIC ACADEMY, AND I WANT TO ENCOURAGE CITIZENS FROM OUR COMMUNITY TO APPLY OR REALLY JUST PUT YOUR NAME IN THE HAT. THERE WILL BE, UM, THERE WILL BE A CUT OFF.

SO APPLY SOON SO WE CAN YOU CAN SNAP ONE OF THOSE SEATS.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE INTERACTIVE SESSIONS, ENGAGING PRESENTATIONS, LOTS OF HANDS ON ACTIVITIES AND WAYS TO JUST LEARN ABOUT LOCAL GOVERNMENT.

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THERE WILL BE PRESENTATIONS FROM EVERY DEPARTMENT, INCLUDING CITY COUNCIL.

AND SO REALLY ENCOURAGE ANY CITIZEN AND ALL CITIZENS TO PARTICIPATE IN OUR CIVIC ACADEMY.

WE'RE GOING TO KICK IT OFF IN JANUARY AND THEY'LL MEET MONTHLY, AND IT'LL BE A GREAT TIME AND LOTS OF GOOD INFORMATION.

SO GET INVOLVED AND HERE'S YOUR CHANCE TO TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE MAKE DECISIONS AND AND BE A PART OF THAT DECISION MAKING.

UH, I WAS ON THE STAGE AT THE PARADE AND THE GET TOGETHER, AND THAT WAS JUST AN AMAZING SIGHT LOOKING ACROSS.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE COUNT ON THE PEOPLE WERE, BUT I'M BEING TOLD THAT IT WAS LITERALLY IN THE THOUSANDS.

AND, UH, THAT KIND OF PLANNING DOESN'T HAPPEN OVERNIGHT.

SO JUST LIKE EVERYBODY UP HERE HAS ALREADY MENTIONED, WE'RE SO PROUD OF OUR STAFF AND HOW THEY PUT THAT TOGETHER.

AND I ALWAYS DO IT WITH A SMILE.

EVEN THE MISTAKES GET TO BE FUN.

SO AND I MAKE A LOT OF THEM, SO IT WORKS OUT REALLY GOOD.

SO THANK YOU ALL.

I APPRECIATE BURLESON ALL TOGETHER.

SORRY. THANK YOU.

MAYOR. COUNCIL. THAT BRINGS US TO SECTION THREE.

CHANGES TO THE POSTED AGENDA.

THREE A ARE ITEMS TO BE CONTINUED OR WITHDRAWN? THREE B IS ITEMS TO BE WITHDRAWN FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR SEPARATE DISCUSSION BY THE CITY COUNCIL STAFF OR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC IN ATTENDANCE, OR ITEMS TO BE ADDED TO THE CONSENT AGENDA WHICH REQUIRE AN OFFICIAL VOTE BY THE CITY COUNCIL.

MADAM SECRETARY, I'D ASK THAT WE REMOVE CONSENT ITEMS FIVE L THROUGH W FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA.

[3.B.Items to be withdrawn from the Consent Agenda for separate discussion by the City Council, staff, or members of the public in attendance. Items to be added to the Consent Agenda require an official vote by the City Council.]

IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO REMOVE AN ITEM FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR SEPARATE DISCUSSION? IS THERE A MOTION ON THAT THAT DOES NOT REQUIRE NO, ONLY TO ADD IT.

RIGHT. ONLY TO ADD, NOT TO REMOVE.

OKAY. WE NEED A MOTION TO REMOVE OR NOT TO REMOVE.

JUST VOTE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

CORRECT. AT THIS, AT THIS POINT RIGHT NOW, MAYOR, WE'RE JUST SAYING THAT WE'RE GOING TO REMOVE ITEMS FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA, WHICH DOES NOT REQUIRE A VOTE.

OKEYDOKE. OKAY, SO WE'RE READY FOR A VOTE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

NO. SO WE'RE GOING TO GO ON TO SECTION FOUR CITIZENS APPEARANCE I APOLOGIZE.

NO. THAT'S OKAY. WE KIND OF JUMBLED UP THIS THIS BEGINNING PART.

SO THAT MOVES US ON TO SECTION FOUR CITIZENS APPEARANCE.

EACH PERSON IN ATTENDANCE WHO DESIRES TO SPEAK TO THE COUNCIL ON AN ITEM NOT POSTED ON THE AGENDA, SHALL SPEAK.

DURING THIS SECTION.

A SPEAKER CARD MUST BE FILLED OUT AND TURNED INTO THE CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE.

EACH SPEAKER WILL BE ALLOWED THREE MINUTES TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL, EACH PERSON IN ATTENDANCE WHO DESIRES TO SPEAK TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON AN ITEM THAT IS POSTED ON THE AGENDA SHALL SPEAK WHEN THE ITEM IS CALLED FORWARD FOR CONSIDERATION.

IS THERE ANY. DO I HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS FOR CITIZENS APPEARANCE? I HAVE A SPEAKER CARD, BUT IT DOESN'T.

NO, IT DOESN'T NOTE IF IT'S FOR AN ITEM OR NOT.

DEREK, IS THIS FOR AN ITEM POSTED ON THE AGENDA? OH, YES. YES.

OKAY. I HAVE NO OTHER SPEAKER CARDS THAT ARE FOR CITIZENS APPEARANCE.

THAT'LL MOVE US ON AT THIS TIME.

[10. RECESS INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION (Part 1 of 2)]

THERE IS A NEED FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION.

SO PURSUANT TO SECTION FIVE FIVE, I'M SORRY, CHAPTER FIVE FIVE, ONE OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, THE CITY COUNCIL WILL CONVENE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION. THIS IS PURSUANT TO SECTION 551.071.

IS THERE A MOTION TO MOVE TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION? MOTION TO GO TO EXECUTE.

I HAVE A MOTION BY ADAM A SECOND TO VICTORIA.

PLEASE VOTE.

PASSES UNANIMOUS.

WE'RE GOING INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AT 539.

MAYOR, IF YOU COULD CALL FOR A MOTION TO RECONVENE INTO OPEN SESSION, PLEASE.

IS THERE A MOTION TO RECONVENE? SO MOVED. SECOND.

RONNIE. THAT'S OKAY.

I GOT A MOTION BY ADAM.

A SECOND BY RONNY. PLEASE VOTE.

PASSES UNANIMOUS. WE'RE BACK IN SESSION AT 558.

THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

THAT BRINGS US TO SECTION FIVE, THE CONSENT AGENDA.

[5.CONSENT AGENDA]

TONIGHT THE CONSENT AGENDA IS LISTED FIVE A THROUGH FIVE W.

HOWEVER, WE HAVE REMOVED ITEMS FIVE L THROUGH FIVE W FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA.

SO THE CONSENT AGENDA THIS EVENING IS FIVE A THROUGH FIVE K.

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SO ALL ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA THAT REMAIN ON THE CONSENT AGENDA WILL BE CONSIDERED BY THE CITY COUNCIL AND WILL BE ENACTED WITH ONE MOTION.

THERE WILL BE NO SEPARATE DISCUSSION ON THESE ITEMS. APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA AUTHORIZES THE CITY MANAGER TO IMPLEMENT EACH ITEM IN ACCORDANCE WITH STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS.

MAYOR, IF YOU COULD ASK FOR A MOTION ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, WHICH CURRENTLY SAYS FIVE A THROUGH FIVE K, IS THERE A MOTION ON THIS? SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION BY DAN.

A SECOND BY ADAM. PLEASE VOTE.

PASSES UNANIMOUS.

THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

AT THIS TIME, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO THE CITY ATTORNEY, ALAN TAYLOR, TO ADDRESS ITEMS FIVE L THROUGH FIVE W.

[Items 5.L - 5.W]

THANK YOU, MADAM SECRETARY.

UH, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, AS I HAVE PREVIOUSLY ADVISED YOU, THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IS JOINING WITH THE TEXAS CITY ATTORNEYS ASSOCIATION IN AN OMNIBUS RECOMMENDATION THAT WE DENY ANY PETITIONS BROUGHT PURSUANT TO HOUSE BILL 2038.

AS YOU MAY RELATED SESSION, THE HOUSE ADOPTED OR THE BOTH LEGISLATIVE BODIES ULTIMATELY ADOPTED.

SENATE. PARDON ME, SENATE BILL 2038, WHICH ALLOWED AN INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY OWNER OR A GROUP OF PROPERTY OWNERS, PROVIDED THEY WERE 50% OF THE OWNERS, OR 50% OF THE RESIDENTS OF AN AREA THAT OWNED OR WAS OCCUPYING PROPERTY WITHIN THE EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION OF A CITY TO REQUEST RELEASE FROM THE EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION.

IF THE CITY COUNCIL DID NOT ACT UPON THAT THE LEGISLATIVE BODY WITHIN 45 DAYS, THEN THE AREA WAS RELEASED BY OPERATION OF LAW.

INITIALLY, WE ALL TOOK IT ON ITS FACE VALUE THAT THAT APPEARED TO BE WHAT HAD TO BE DONE UNDER THE LEGISLATIVE ACT.

BUT THEN, OF COURSE, AS THESE THINGS HAPPEN AND LEGISLATIVE ISSUES BEGIN TO BE ANALYZED BY THE DIFFERENT JURISPRUDENTIAL RESEARCH GROUPS, IT BECAME OBVIOUS THAT SENATE BILL 2038 HAD A NUMBER OF MAJOR ISSUES THAT HAD NOT BEEN RESOLVED THE TEXAS CONSTITUTION AND THE TEXAS SUPREME COURT CASES, INTERPRETING THAT CONSTITUTION HAVE FOR GENERATIONS HELD THAT THE ESTABLISHMENT OF BOUNDARIES FOR EITHER GOVERNMENTAL CONTROL OR GOVERNMENTAL REGULATIONS, OR ACTS OF SOVEREIGNTY THAT CAN ONLY BE UNDERTAKEN BY A LEGISLATIVE BODY, ONLY AN ELECTED LEGISLATIVE BODY CAN ALTER THESE BOUNDARIES.

WHAT SENATE BILL 2038 DID? IS IT TRANSFERRED THAT AUTHORITY TO ONE OR MORE PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS, WHO SIMPLY HAD TO REQUEST IT IN WRITING, AND WHETHER THE LOCAL LEGISLATIVE BODY AGREED OR NOT? IT HAPPENED BY OPERATION OF LAW.

THAT IS A DIRECT VIOLATION OF THE DELEGATION OF SOVEREIGNTY AS SET FORTH IN THE TEXAS CONSTITUTION, AND IT VIOLATES THE DOCTRINE OF SEPARATION OF POWERS, IS THERE IS NO NOTICE OR REVIEW BY ANY OTHER BODY.

THAT IS A SIGNIFICANT JURISPRUDENTIAL HURDLE TO THIS STATUTE.

IN ADDITION TO WHICH, THE LEGISLATURE CREATED THE NEW RULE AS SECTION 42.105 OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE, BUT THEY LEFT IN PLACE AND DID NOT REMOVE SECTION 42.023 OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE.

THAT SAID, THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTIONAL BOUNDARY IS A ACT OF SOVEREIGNTY.

THE ETJ MAY ONLY BE RELEASED OR ALTERED BY ACTIONS OF THE LOCAL LEGISLATIVE BODY.

THAT IS THE EXCLUSIVE METHOD FOR CHANGING IT.

SO WE HAD SECTION 023 AND SECTION 105 IN DIRECT CONFLICT, AS ONE OF THE JUDICIAL SCHOLARS WHO LOOKED AT IT AND SAID, WE SEEM TO FIND OURSELVES IN A SITUATION OF POROUS MATERIAL, WHICH ONE OF MY YOUNG LAWYERS LOOKED AT ME IN A MEETING AND SAID, BOSS, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? SHE WENT TO SCHOOL IN A DAY AND AGE WHEN LATIN WASN'T REQUIRED, AND I SAID, IN SIMPLEST TERMS, TO GET IT OUT OF THE THE JURISPRUDENCE WORLD PARTY MATERIAL MEANS YOU HAVE CREATED A SITUATION WHERE TWO DIFFERENT AIRPLANES ARE ATTEMPTING TO LAND ON THE SAME RUNWAY FROM TWO OPPOSITE DIRECTIONS AT THE SAME TIME, A SITUATION YOU WANT TO AVOID.

WE HAVE DIRECT STATUTORY CONFLICT WHERE THEY CANNOT BE RECONCILED.

IN ADDITION TO WHICH UNDER 2038, IF 51% OF THE RESIDENTS OF AN AREA WANTED TO BE REMOVED FROM THE

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ETJ, THEY COULD SIMPLY FILE THE PETITION, AND THE OTHER 49% OF THE RESIDENTS WERE AUTOMATICALLY REMOVED, WHETHER THEY WANTED TO BE OR NOT, WITHOUT NOTICE OR AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD.

IF YOU REMOVE FROM THE ETJ, YOU LOSE THE ABILITY TO HAVE CERTAIN LEVELS OF PUBLIC SERVICES, SOME FORMS OF POLICE, FIRE, PUBLIC SERVICE PROTECTIONS OR RESPONSES BECAUSE OF JURISDICTIONAL BOUNDARY ISSUES.

OBVIOUSLY THAT IS A TREATMENT OF PROPERTY IN A DISSIMILAR MANNER.

GOVERNMENTS ARE REQUIRED TO TREAT SIMILARLY SITUATED PROPERTIES IN A COMPARABLE MANNER, AND THE CONSTITUTION REQUIRES IT.

THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT VIOLATIONS, ARGUABLY HERE, OF ARTICLE ONE, ARTICLE TWO AND ARTICLE 19 OF THE TEXAS CONSTITUTION.

AND FOR THAT REASON, WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT THE CITY COUNCIL DENY ANY REQUEST BROUGHT PURSUANT TO HOUSE BILL 2038.

UNTIL THE COURTS ARE THE LEGISLATURE, IN THEIR INFINITE WISDOM, CLARIFY EXACTLY WHAT THIS MEANS.

THE PURPOSE OF THE EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION BOUNDARY IS TO ALLOW THE CITY TO PLAN FOR THE LOGICAL EXTENSION OF ROADWAYS, WATER LINES, SEWER LINES, AND STORMWATER SYSTEMS. WE DO NOT REGULATE LAND USE IN THE ETJ.

WE ONLY REGULATE HOW WATER LINES, SEWER LINES, ROADS AND STORMWATER SYSTEMS ARE EXTENDED SO THEY ARE LOGICAL AND CONSISTENT AND AVOID DAMAGING ADJOINING PROPERTIES.

MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBERS, I WOULD BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS YOU HAVE, BUT THAT'S THE BASIS OF OUR RECOMMENDATION.

UNFORTUNATELY, I HAVE TO TELL YOU, THE COURTS ARE SLOW TO ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS AND WE MAY BE IN THIS SITUATION FOR SOME TIME TO COME, BUT CITIES ARE SURFACING IT ACROSS THE BOARD.

ONE OF OUR NEIGHBOR SORT OF NEIGHBORING CITIES, GRAND PRAIRIE, HAS ALREADY BROUGHT SUIT AGAINST THE STATE OF TEXAS TO INVALIDATE THIS BILL, AND THEY ARE IN COURT IN TRAVIS COUNTY.

ALL LAWSUITS ATTACKING THE STATE AND THE STATE LEGISLATURE FOR THEIR REGULATIONS ARE BROUGHT IN TRAVIS COUNTY BECAUSE OF A CONSTITUTIONAL MANDATE.

ANY QUESTIONS? IS THERE A MOTION ON THIS TO CLARIFY? IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM, SINCE WE HAD IT LISTED AT CONSENT? THAT POWER LED THE WAY IN SOUTH BOSTON.

MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE THIS EVENING.

JUST AS A POINT OF CLARIFICATION FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY IN TERMS OF THE 45 DAY RULE, IN TERMS OF THE MINISTERIAL ACTION THAT'S ABOUT TO TAKE PLACE, WHAT ARE THE IMPLICATIONS OF THAT RULE BASED ON THE STATUTE THAT'S CURRENTLY IN PLACE? WHAT WHAT WE HAVE ADVISED MAYOR AND COUNCIL IS THAT IF COURTS ULTIMATELY DETERMINE THAT SENATE BILL 2038 IS VALID, ENFORCEABLE AND CONSTITUTIONAL, AND THEY FIND A WAY TO RECONCILE THAT, THEN THESE PROPERTIES WILL HAVE BEEN RELEASED FROM THE ETJ ON THE 45TH DAY AFTER THEY HAVE SUBMITTED THEIR PETITION.

SO IT DOES NOT NEGATIVELY IMPACT THEM IF THE COURTS SUSTAIN THAT THAT STATUTORY ENACTMENT.

IF, ON THE OTHER HAND, THE CITY IS CORRECT, THEN THEY WILL HAVE REMAINED IN THE ETJ AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE PART OF THE ETJ.

OKAY. IF THE HIGHER COURT DOES SUSTAIN THE OPINION, THEN IS THERE A RETROACTIVE POSITION ON TERMS OF THE MUNICIPALITY TO RETROACTIVELY GO BACK AND TAKE CARE OF SOME OF THE CASES THAT HAVE BEEN ALREADY APPROVED? IF A CITY HAS ALREADY APPROVED AN EGG WITHDRAWAL BASED UPON OUR BEST ASSESSMENT AT THIS TIME, ABSENT SOME OTHER LEGISLATIVE ACT, THE AREA IS RELEASED FROM THE ETJ.

ANOTHER QUESTION THAT'S GOING TO ARISE.

AND YOU WILL. YOU WILL SEE THIS CONVERSATION OCCUR.

A NUMBER OF PIECES OF PROPERTY IN OUR EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION ENTERED INTO DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS UNDER TWO DIFFERENT PROVISIONS OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE.

THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS ALLOWED A PROPERTY OWNER TO BE FREE FROM ANNEXATION FOR A PERIOD OF TIME,

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UP TO 15 YEARS.

IF THEY SIGNED THE AGREEMENT, THE CITY WOULD NOT ANNEX THEM WHEN THE CITY HAD THE AUTHORITY TO INVOLUNTARILY INVOLUNTARILY ANNEX PROPERTY.

AND MANY PROPERTY OWNERS IN THE ETJ SIGNED DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS WITH THE CITY.

THOSE ARE EXECUTORY CONTRACTUAL COMMITMENTS.

AND IF THE CITY PERFORMED AND DID NOT ANNEX UNDER THOSE AGREEMENTS, THEN THERE IS A CONSTITUTIONAL CONTRACT PROVISION THAT STATES THAT THE STATE LEGISLATURE WILL NOT ENACT A STATUTE TO INVALIDATE A BINDING EXECUTORY CONTRACT.

SO THEREFORE, PROPERTIES THAT HAVE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS THAT WERE PROPERLY EXECUTED AND SIGNED ARE IN ALL PROBABILITY UNDER ANY CONSTRUCTION NOT GOING TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR RELEASE FROM THE ETJ.

UNDER SENATE BILL 2038, THEY ARE BOUND BY THE CONTRACTUAL AGREEMENT THEY MADE THAT THE CONSTITUTION MANDATES BE ENFORCED.

OKAY, I KNOW THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME MORE POINTS OF CLARIFICATION AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

AND I'M ASKING THIS BECAUSE I MY PHONE'S BEEN OBVIOUSLY BLOWING UP, AND I'M TRYING TO GIVE PEOPLE THE BEST ADVICE I CAN POSSIBLY GIVE THEM IN TERMS OF THE LEGAL RAMIFICATIONS, THE TIMING OF, YOU KNOW, CERTAIN MATTERS AND AND OBVIOUSLY THE HIGHER COURT'S OPINIONS THAT ARE GOING TO BE RULED.

BUT SO I JUST WANTED TO, AS A POINT OF CLARIFICATION, THESE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT BEING DENIED, THEY'RE THE 45 DAY RULE IS NOT IN EFFECT.

MR. POWELL THAT THAT'S THE PROBLEM.

THE 45 DAY RULE IS CREATED BY THE STATUTE.

IT COMMENCED WHEN THEY FILED THEIR PETITION.

IF THE COURTS SUSTAIN THE CONSTITUTIONALITY OF 2038 ON ON THE 45TH DAY AFTER THEY SUBMITTED THEIR PETITION, THEY ARE NO LONGER IN THE ETJ.

BUT IF THE COURT DOES NOT SUSTAIN IT, THEN THEY THEY REMAIN IN THE EAG.

OKAY, SO SO WITHIN THIS 45 DAY WINDOW, EITHER THE STATE LEGISLATURE WITH WHICH MOVES, YOU KNOW, SLOWLY AND THE COURTS MOVE SLOW WITHIN THIS 45 DAYS, IF THERE'S NO ENACTMENT BY LEGISLATURE, LEGISLATIVE ACT OR JUDICIAL RENDERING OF OPINION, THEN WHAT'S ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT WILL BE RELEASED.

I THINK I'M GOING TO MAKE IT A SIMPLER.

OKAY. THEY ARE THESE TERRITORIES ARE GOING TO BE TREATED AS IF THEY'RE IN THE EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION BY THE CITY.

UNTIL SUCH TIME AS A COURT RULES ON THE CURRENT PETITION, WE'RE GOING TO ASSUME THEY'RE IN THE CITY. OKAY.

THE CITY'S ETJ.

IT'S IT'S ONE OF THOSE IMPOSSIBLE SITUATIONS.

AND FOR THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WONDER WHY, WHY MR. POWELL AND I WORRY ABOUT THESE KINDS OF THINGS.

THERE ARE SOME BYZANTINE RULES THAT BITE EVERYBODY.

IT IS ILLEGAL FOR A PUBLICLY FRANCHISED UTILITY TO PROVIDE UTILITY SERVICE TO PROPERTY THAT IS NOT PROPERLY PLATTED UNDER STATE LAW. THAT'S FOUND IN CHAPTER 212 OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE.

YOU CAN'T BE PROPERLY PLATTED IF YOU'RE IN THE ETJ, UNLESS THE CITY HAS SIGNED OFF ON IT.

DO WE KNOW WHAT THE COURTS WILL DO WITH THIS? ABSOLUTELY. HAVE NO CLUE.

THE LEGISLATURE LEFT US WITH ONE OF THOSE UNANSWERED PUZZLES, AND WE WILL ALL BE IMPLORING THE COURTS TO PROVIDE AN ANSWER.

THE PROBLEM IS, THE LEGISLATURE WILL NOT MEET FOR BETTER PART OF ANOTHER TWO YEARS.

THE GOVERNOR COULD ADD THIS TO A SPECIAL SESSION CALL, BUT THAT'S UNLIKELY.

IT'S NOT ONE OF HIS PRIORITIES.

SO WE MAY HAVE TO WAIT TWO YEARS FOR THE LEGISLATURE TO TELL US WHAT THE NEW RULE IS.

ABSENT THAT, WE WILL HAVE TO GO TO TO THE AUSTIN COURT, THE INITIAL COURTS THAT ARE HEARING THIS IN TRAVIS COUNTY TO MAKE A THRESHOLD DECISION, THEN TO THE COURT OF APPEALS IN AUSTIN FOR THE INITIAL REVIEW, THEN TO THE TEXAS SUPREME COURT FOR A FINAL DECISION.

WE ARE PROBABLY GOING TO BE CIRCLING IN THE AIR FOR THE BETTER PART OF TWO YEARS BEFORE WE HAVE AN ANSWER.

I WISH THERE WAS BETTER NEWS.

NO, I UNDERSTAND THAT, AND I APPRECIATE THE CLARIFICATION AND THE POINTS YOU'VE MADE.

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AND ONCE AGAIN, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.

I KNOW THAT WHEN WE SERVED ON COUNCIL TOGETHER, THIS IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST IMPACTFUL PIECES OF LEGISLATION THAT'S GOING TO, UH, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THE THINGS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DELIBERATE ON, ARE THERE THE UTMOST IMPORTANCE.

AND AND I WISH THE BEST FOR EVERYBODY, AND I HOPE WE GET IT.

ALL RIGHT. AND, UH, WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING TOGETHER TO TRY TO GET THROUGH SOME OF THESE LEGISLATIVE AND JUDICIAL ACTS.

THANK YOU ALL. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON THIS ONE? IF YOU COULD JUST. THAT'S FINE.

IF YOU WOULD JUST STATE YOUR NAME.

JEFF TAYLOR WITH DUNAWAY LIVE AT 7616 WOOD WIND DRIVE.

AND ALVARADO REPRESENTING THE CASE THAT WAS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA TONIGHT AT SOUTH AND 917 OFF OF 600 RIGHT AT COUNTY ROAD 517.

UH, HERE BECAUSE WE WANTED TO DO A WAIVER BASICALLY TO GO THROUGH PRECINCT THREE TO DO THEIR ROADWAY DESIGN, WE OUR DESIRE WAS TO DO A COUNTY ROADWAY SECTION VERY SIMILAR TO THE CLIFFWOOD SUBDIVISION.

I LIVE IN SOUTH OF 917.

UM, DIDN'T REALLY AGAIN HAVE A DESIRE TO BE OUT AT THE EDGE, BUT OUR WE WERE CONSULTED AND TOLD THAT THIS COULD BE AN OPTION FOR US.

IT SOUNDS LIKE TONIGHT, THIS MAY OR MAY NOT BE AN OPTION, BUT OUR REAL DESIRE IS TO DO.

AND WE'VE ALREADY DONE PLANS THROUGH THE CITY, UM, THAT ARE READY FOR APPROVAL.

NOT 100% APPROVED, BUT WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IS DO A SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISION AND DO COUNTY ROADWAYS.

WE'D HAVE BETHESDA WATER WITH SEPTIC SYSTEMS. SO OUR ISSUE IS, IS WE REALLY DON'T NEED CITY PROVIDED UTILITIES IN THIS AREA.

SO MY QUESTION IS, I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL COULD CONSIDER THAT ONE CASE.

UM, AGAIN, DON'T HAVE ANY DISTASTE FOR THE CITY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

WE'RE JUST TRYING TO DO A SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISION, AND WE'D LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH COUNTY ROADWAY SECTIONS WITH THEIR, YOU KNOW, STANDARDS, AND THEN THEY WOULD ALSO TAKE OVER AND MAINTAIN THOSE AS WELL.

PROBABLY THE EASIEST THING FOR ME TO DO IS JUST TO RATHER THAN LET THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL TRY AND ANSWER IT, IT'S JUST TO FILL IN THE OBVIOUS.

WE'RE GOING TO TREAT IT AS IF IT'S A SUBDIVISION WITHIN THE EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION.

RIGHT? AS YOU ARE AWARE, UNDER OUR SUBDIVISION REGULATION ORDINANCE, YOU CAN REQUEST WAIVERS AND DEMONSTRATE AND SUBMIT A PROPOSAL GOING.

WE WOULD PREFER TO PUT IN A DIFFERENT KIND OF ROAD SECTION FOR THESE REASONS AND SET IT OUT.

AND THE CITY HAS THE AUTHORITY TO APPROVE IT.

RIGHT? I MEAN, THE SIMPLE THING IS GO THROUGH THE CITY PROCESS AND JUST REQUEST THE WAIVERS.

AND THE CITY HAS NEVER BEEN ARBITRARY OR DIFFICULT ABOUT DOING IT.

IF THERE IS A GOOD CAUSE SHOWN TO TO MAKE A CHANGE, WE JUST CAN'T.

WE COULDN'T DO IT TONIGHT BECAUSE THE PLAT IS NOT IN FRONT OF THERE.

IT'S ONLY AN ETJ RELEASE THAT WE HAVE NO NOTICE.

WE DON'T HAVE AN AGENDA ITEM TO CONSIDER IT.

OKAY, BUT IF YOU GO THROUGH THE PROCESS, IT'S POSSIBLE TO GET WHAT YOU WANT, JUST NOT UNDER THIS AGENDA, RIGHT? I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS THE WAY WE WERE LED.

THAT'S WHY I'M HERE.

SO I'LL DO THE WAIVER.

THANK YOU. I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

ON HOW IT WAS LED. I WAS ONE OF THE ONES THAT SAID IT.

PUT IT ON YOUR FORM AND WE'LL PASS IT.

AND WE GOT KIND OF BLINDSIDED THE LAST DAY OR SO ON THIS.

SO AND WE ARE GOING TO SEND NOTICES OUT TO THE PEOPLE THAT HAD A REQUEST TONIGHT AND LET THEM KNOW WHERE WHAT'S HAPPENED AND THEIR POSSIBILITIES ON THIS.

SO WE WILL INFORM PROPERLY I APPRECIATE THAT.

I GOT A OWNER THAT'S PROBABLY NOT GOING TO BE VERY HAPPY WITH ME TONIGHT, SO THANK YOU.

YES. IF THERE'S NO OTHER SPEAKERS, THERE'S A SPEAKER.

MAKE A MOTION. OH, I'LL BE DOWN IN A SECOND.

HI, I'M MIKE ROONEY. I WAS JUST GOING TO FOLLOW UP ON MATT POLL'S QUESTIONS HERE.

THE CURRENT LAW FOR THE ETJ.

IT'S A QUESTION FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY.

IS IT CURRENTLY IN FORCE AS OF TODAY? YES. THIS THE LAW.

THE LAW, THE CITY'S LAW.

LAW FOR 211, THESE LAWS, THE LEGISLATURE LAW, THESE AND STUFF THAT'S ALREADY BEEN PASSED THROUGH COUNCIL FOR THE RELEASE OF ITTJ.

THEY'RE UNDER THIS EXACT SAME LAW.

OKAY. THE REASON YOU SEE ME HESITATING IS YOU KEEP SAYING LAW.

LAW. THIS LAW WE HAVE CHAPTER TWO 212 OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE WHICH ADOPTS OUR SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS.

IT'S IN PLACE.

OUR SUBDIVISION REGULATION ORDINANCE IS IN PLACE.

IT'S ENFORCEABLE TODAY.

IF WHAT YOU'RE ASKING IS IF THERE WERE PROPERTIES THAT CAME FORWARD IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS AND REQUESTED RELEASE FROM THE ETJ, AND THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED THOSE REQUESTS FOR RELEASE, THEN THEY ARE NO LONGER IN THE ETJ AND THEY ARE NOT SUBJECT TO THE CITY'S SUBDIVISION REGULATION ORDINANCE.

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BUT WE ARE TAKING THE POSITION THAT SENATE BILL 2038 CANNOT BE ENFORCED THE WAY IT IS WRITTEN, UNTIL A COURT MANDATES THAT THEY HAVE FOUND A WAY TO MAKE IT CONSTITUTIONALLY ENFORCEABLE.

BUT THAT'S US.

YOU ARE CHALLENGING THAT BECAUSE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, THE BILL THAT IS CURRENTLY IN FORCE AS OF TODAY, THAT BILL IS CURRENTLY IN FORCE JUST AS 42.0023 IS, WHICH SAYS 42.105 CANNOT EXIST.

THEY ARE HEAD TO HEAD IN CONFLICT.

WE ARE SAYING WE'RE GOING WITH 2.3, NOT 1.05.

OKAY. BUT IT'S BEING CHALLENGED.

SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, EVEN THOUGH IT'S CHALLENGED, EVEN THOUGH IT'S IN FORCE AS OF TODAY, THAT'S MY QUESTION.

THAT IS CORRECT.

RIGHT. OKAY.

THAT'S THE ONLY QUESTION I HAD.

CURRENT CURRENT BILL IS IN FORCE AS OF TODAY.

THANK YOU. MAYOR AND COUNCIL BEFORE YOU.

NOW YOU HAVE ITEMS FIVE L THROUGH FIVE W.

YES WE DO.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DENY ITEM FIVE L THROUGH FIVE W, ON THE ADVICE OF OUR LEGAL COUNSEL.

TO PROTECT THE INTERESTS OF THE CITY OF BURLESON.

PUSH YOUR BUTTON. I NEED A SECOND.

I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION.

I HAVE A MOTION BY DAN AND A SECOND BY LARRY.

PLEASE VOTE. PASSES.

UNANIMOUS. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM SECTION SIX DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS.

[6.A.113 N Dobson Street (Case 23-270): Hold a public hearing and consider approval of an ordinance for a zoning change request from “SF7”, Single-family dwelling district 7 to “CC”, Central Commercial for a 0.15 acre site. (First and Final Reading) (Staff Presenter: Emilio Sanchez, Development Services Assistant Director)(The Planning and Zoning Commission recommended approval by unanimous vote]

EXCUSE ME. SIX A IS 113 NORTH DOBSON STREET.

CASE 20 3-270.

TONIGHT'S TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER APPROVAL OF AN ORDINANCE FOR A ZONING CHANGE REQUEST FROM SF SEVEN SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING DISTRICT SEVEN TO CC CENTRAL COMMERCIAL FOR A 0.15 ACRE SITE.

THIS IS BEFORE CITY COUNCIL ON FIRST AND FINAL READING.

THE STAFF PRESENTED THIS EVENING IS EMILIO SANCHEZ, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ASSISTANT DIRECTOR.

MR. SANCHEZ, YOU'RE UP.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

UH, FOR THE RECORD, EMILIO SANCHEZ, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ASSISTANT DIRECTOR.

THE REQUEST THAT'S BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS A ZONING CHANGE FOR 113 NORTH DOBSON.

UH, IT IS A 0.15 ACRE PIECE OF PROPERTY.

AND THE APPLICANT OWNER IS ANDREW MILLIMAN.

UH, JUST A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY ON THE PROPERTY.

UH, IT IS CURRENTLY ZONED SINGLE FAMILY SEVEN, UH, WHICH IS A 7000 MINIMUM SQUARE FOOT LOT DISTRICT.

UH, THE, UH.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY WAS PREVIOUSLY USED AS A RESIDENTIAL HOME UP UNTIL RECENT YEARS IT WAS VACANT.

THE CURRENT OWNER PURCHASED THE PROPERTY IN 2022, DID SOME RENOVATIONS WITH THE, UH, FINAL THOUGHTS THAT HE WOULD HAVE HIS BUSINESS OFFICE RUN OUT OF THIS LOCATION.

AND TO DO SO, HE IS REQUESTING THAT THE PROPERTY BE ZONED REZONE.

EXCUSE ME FROM SINGLE FAMILY SEVEN TO, UH, CENTRAL COMMERCIAL.

SO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATES THIS AREA AS OLD TOWN.

UH, THIS IS AGAIN IN THE OVERLAY DISTRICT.

I APOLOGIZE, I DIDN'T MENTION THAT EARLIER.

THE UNDERLYING ZONING IS SINGLE FAMILY.

UH, SEVEN, BUT IT IS IN OUR OLD TOWN OVERLAY DISTRICT AS WELL.

UH, THE CURRENT ZONING IS SINGLE FAMILY SEVEN, AND THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE THAT TO CENTRAL COMMERCIAL.

UH, PUBLIC NOTICES, SINCE THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING FOR A ZONING CHANGE, PUBLIC NOTICES WERE MAILED TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 300FT.

UH, THE NEWSPAPER HAD A NOTIFICATION FOR THE PUBLISH DATE FOR THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, ALONG WITH THE CITY COUNCIL DATE, AND A SIGN WAS POSTED ON THE PROPERTY AS WELL.

STAFF HAS NOT RECEIVED ANY INQUIRIES OPPOSING OR SUPPORTING THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST, AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MET ON NOVEMBER THE 14TH AND RECOMMENDED APPROVAL BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.

THERE WAS NO DISCUSSION OR NOR SPEAKERS AT THAT MEETING, AND STAFF RECOMMENDED APPROVAL FOR THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST AS REQUESTED BY THE APPLICANT. DUE TO THE FACT THAT THE COMPREHENSIVE IT IS COMPLIANT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND IT WOULD BE, UM, FURTHER THE VISION OF THE OLD TOWN DESIGNATION.

UH, I AM AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE, AND THE APPLICANT IS IN THE AUDIENCE AS WELL.

ANY QUESTIONS? IS THERE A MOTION? SORRY, MAYOR. WE NEED.

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SORRY. I'M SORRY.

UH, I'M GOING TO OPEN THIS PUBLIC HEARING AT 624.

IS THERE ANYBODY THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ITEM SIX? A AND I HAVE NO SPEAKER CARDS, MAYOR.

WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT ALSO 624.

WOULD YOU ASK FOR A VOTE, PLEASE, MAYOR, ON THIS ITEM.

SECOND. IS THERE A MOTION ON THIS? I MOVE TO APPROVE THE ZONING CHANGE FROM SF7 TO CENTRAL COMMERCIAL.

I HAVE A MOTION BY ADAM. A SECOND BY PHIL.

PLEASE VOTE. PASSES UNANIMOUS.

THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

THAT BRINGS US TO SIX B 6988 EAST FM 917.

[6.B.6988 E FM 917 (Case 23-091): Hold a public hearing and consider approval of an ordinance for a zoning change request from “A”, Agricultural to “C”, Commercial for a 2.8 acre portion of 6988 E FM 917. (First and Final Reading) (Staff Presenter: Emilio Sanchez, Development Services Assistant Director)(The Planning and Zoning Commission recommended approval by unanimous vote)]

CASE 20 3-091.

THIS IS TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER APPROVAL OF AN ORDINANCE FOR A ZONING CHANGE.

REQUEST FROM A AGRICULTURAL TO SEE COMMERCIAL FOR A 2.8 ACRE PORTION OF 6988 EAST FM 917.

THIS IS BEFORE CITY COUNCIL ON FIRST AND FINAL READING.

THE STAFF PRESENTER AGAIN IS EMILIO SANCHEZ, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ASSISTANT DIRECTOR.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

FOR THE RECORD, EMILIO SANCHEZ, AS MISS CAMPOS STATED, I WON'T REPEAT AS I DID EARLIER, ALL THE INFORMATION THAT SHE HAD STATED, BUT THIS IS A ZONING CHANGE REQUEST THAT MR. SEAN HILL, THE APPLICANT, IS REQUESTING FOR 6988 EAST FM 917.

UH, THIS IS CURRENTLY A SPLIT ZONED LOT.

AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE SCREEN, THERE IS A 2.8 ACRE SECTION OF 6988 EAST FM 917 THAT IS, A PORTION IS COMMERCIAL AS WELL AS AGRICULTURE.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO REZONE A PORTION TO INCLUDE ALL OF THE PROPERTY TO BE ZONED COMMERCIAL SO THAT THEY COULD, UM, BUILD A SOUTHERN TIRE MART.

AT THIS TIME, THE APPLICANT DOES HAVE A COMMERCIAL SITE PLAN IN WITH STAFF FOR REVIEW, BUT IT WILL REQUIRE A ZONING CHANGE REQUEST APPROVAL PRIOR TO STAFF BEING ABLE TO ADMINISTRATIVELY APPROVE THE SITE PLAN FOR THE SOUTHERN TIRE MART.

THE COMPREHENSIVE ZONE.

EXCUSE ME. THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE MAP STATES THAT THIS AREA IS TO BE REGIONAL OFFICE OR COMMERCIAL.

THE CURRENT ZONING, AS I STATED EARLIER, IS SPLIT BETWEEN AGRICULTURE AND COMMERCIAL.

THE REQUESTED ZONING CHANGE DOES MEET THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS COMMERCIAL.

IT DOES NOT FURTHER, THE UM.

KIND OF THE THE.

REGIONAL OFFICE PORTION OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, BUT THAT PORTION OF THE COMP PLAN ALSO STATES THAT COMMERCIAL WOOD WOULD COMPLY WITH THAT DISTRICT AS WELL.

AGAIN, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.

PUBLIC HEARING NOTICES WERE WERE MAILED TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 300FT, ALSO PUBLISHED IN THE NEWSPAPER, ALONG WITH A SIGN POSTED ON THE PROPERTY AND STAFF HAS NOT RECEIVED ANY INQUIRIES REGARDING THE REQUEST, EITHER OPPOSING OR SUPPORTING THE APPLICATION.

APPLICANT'S REQUEST TO CHANGE THE ZONING.

THE PLANNING COMMISSION MET ON NOVEMBER THE 14TH, RECOMMENDED APPROVAL BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.

THERE WERE NO DISCUSSIONS OR SPEAKERS AT THAT TIME, AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE ZONING CHANGE FROM AGRICULTURE TO COMMERCIAL FOR THE 2.8 ACRE PORTION, AS THIS WOULD COMPLY WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IF APPROVED, AND THE PROPOSED USE IS GOING TO BE A SOUTHERN TIRE MART, WHICH BY THE COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT WOULD ALLOW FOR THE REPAIRS THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING TO DO ON SITE.

SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN THOSE.

AND THE APPLICANT IS IN THE AUDIENCE AS WELL.

ANY QUESTIONS? I'M HOPING THE PUBLIC HEARING UP AT 628.

IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL DURING THIS PUBLIC HEARING? I HAVE NO SPEAKER CARDS, MAYOR.

I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 629.

IS THERE A VOTE ON THIS MOTION? I HAVE A MOTION BY DAN AND A SECOND BY RONNIE.

PLEASE VOTE. PASSES UNANIMOUS.

THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM 6C3084 SOUTH BURLESON BOULEVARD.

[6.C.3084 S Burleson Blvd. (Case 23-254): Hold a public hearing and consider approval of an ordinance for a zoning change request from “SP”, Site Plan Ordinance D-091-08 and “A”, Agricultural to “PD”, Planned Development for a 3.016 acre site. (First and Final Reading) (Staff Presenter: Emilio Sanchez, Development Services Assistant Director )(The Planning and Zoning Commission recommended approval by unanimous vote)]

THIS IS CASE 20 3-254.

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TONIGHT IS TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER APPROVAL OF AN ORDINANCE FOR A ZONING CHANGE REQUEST FROM SP SITE PLAN, ORDINANCE D, DASH 091, DASH ZERO EIGHT AND A AND A AGRICULTURE TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR A 3.016 ACRE SITE.

THIS IS BEFORE CITY COUNCIL ON FIRST AND FINAL READING.

ONCE AGAIN EMILIO SANCHEZ, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ASSISTANT DIRECTOR.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR. COUNCIL FOR THE RECORD, EMILIO SANCHEZ WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

THE REQUEST IS FOR 3084 SOUTH BURLESON BOULEVARD.

THE APPLICANT IS NATHAN OLSON.

UH, ON BEHALF OF AMERICAN COMPLETION TOOLS.

AND THEY WERE. THEY ARE REQUESTING A ZONING CHANGE FROM SITE PLAN TO SITE PLAN AND AGRICULTURE TO A PLAN DEVELOPMENT SPECIFIC USE.

SO, UM, IN 2008, TO GIVE A LITTLE BRIEF HISTORY ON THE PROPERTY, COUNCIL APPROVED A SITE PLAN ZONING FOR THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY FOR AMERICAN COMPLETION TOOLS TO ACTUALLY START THEIR BUSINESS ON THE SITE.

UH, THEY HAVE DONE WELL, AND THE OWNER IS WANTING TO EXPAND THAT BUSINESS AND HAS PURCHASED A NEIGHBORING PROPERTY.

UH, THAT IS ZONED AGRICULTURE AT THIS TIME TO.

COMPLETE HIS REQUEST TO EXPAND HIS BUSINESS.

A REZONING WAS REQUIRED NOT ONLY FOR THE SITE PLAN, BUT THE PORTION THAT WAS AGRICULTURE AS WELL.

SO THE REQUESTED PROPERTY, UH, IS IS PROPOSED TO BE A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT AND STAFF RECOMMEND THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE OF SOME SPECIFIC USES THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO NOT ALLOW UNDER THE I INDUSTRIAL THAT IS ALLOWED BY.

RIGHT. SO THOSE 12 USES THAT ARE LISTED THERE, EXCUSE ME, TEN USES THAT ARE LISTED THERE WILL NOT BE ALLOWED OUR.

UH, WOULD NOT BE PERMITTED BY THIS PLANNED DEVELOPMENT WITH AN UNDER.

SO THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT WOULD HAVE AN UNDERLYING ZONING OF I INDUSTRIAL, BUT THESE USES WOULD BE EXCLUDED FROM THAT USE.

SO THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN HAS THIS AS EMPLOYMENT GROWTH CENTER.

UH, CURRENTLY IT IS A SPLIT ZONE LOT BETWEEN SITE PLAN AND AGRICULTURE.

SINCE THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, PUBLIC HEARING NOTICES WERE WERE MAILED TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 300FT OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, ALONG WITH THE PUBLIC NOTICE IN THE NEWSPAPER AND A SIGN POSTED ON THE PROPERTY.

STAFF HAS NOT RECEIVED ANY INQUIRIES CONCERNING THIS REQUEST, AND ON NOVEMBER THE 14TH, 2023, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION DID MEET AND RECOMMENDED APPROVAL BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.

THERE WERE NO DISCUSSIONS OR NO SPEAKERS, AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE ZONING CHANGE, REQUEST FROM SITE PLAN AND AGRICULTURAL ZONING TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT FOR THE 3.016 ACRE SITE AT 3084 SOUTH BURLESON BOULEVARD, WITH THOSE RESTRICTED USES IN THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT.

I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE, AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE OF THEM.

ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL.

OKAY, I'M GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING UP AT 632.

IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING? I HAVE NO SPEAKER CARDS, MAYOR.

THEN I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 633.

IS THERE A MOTION ON THIS? MOTION TO APPROVE. I HAVE A MOTION TO APPEAL.

AND A SECOND BY RONNIE. PLEASE VOTE.

PASSES UNANIMOUS.

THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

THAT BRINGS US TO SECTION SEVEN.

GENERAL. I WILL CALL FORWARD ITEM SEVEN A AND SEVEN B TOGETHER FOR ONE PRESENTATION, BUT WOULD REQUIRE COUNCIL TO MAKE TWO SEPARATE MOTIONS ON THESE ITEMS.

[ Items 7.A & 7.B]

SEVEN A IS. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE WATER AND WASTEWATER IMPACT FEE ORDINANCE, AND FINDING THAT THE MEETING AT WHICH THIS THIS ORDINANCE IS PASSED WAS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AND THE RECITALS ARE TRUE.

AND THEN SEVEN B IS CONSIDER APPROVAL OF AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE ROADWAY IMPACT FEE ORDINANCE, FINDING THAT THE MEETING AT WHICH THIS ORDINANCE IS PASSED WAS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AND THE RECITALS ARE TRUE.

THE STAFF PRESENTED THIS EVENING IS ERIC OSCARSSON, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER, MR. OSCARSSON. THANK YOU, MISS CAMPOS.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

UM, TONIGHT BEFORE YOU IS, UH, IN ONE PRESENTATION, WE WILL REVIEW THE IMPACT FEE ORDINANCE.

UH, AS YOU RECALL, LAST MONTH, WE DID THE FIRST READING OF THE ORDINANCE AND HAD A PUBLIC HEARING.

UM, THIS IS THE SECOND READING.

UH, I'LL BE GOING THROUGH MUCH OF THE PRESENTATION, UM, SOMEWHAT QUICKLY.

IT'S JUST A REMINDER OF THE THINGS WE WENT OVER, AND WE'LL TOUCH ON A FEW ITEMS THAT, UH, WE WERE ASKED TO TOUCH ON A LITTLE BIT MORE IN DEPTH.

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SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ALONG THE WAY, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO LET ME KNOW AND WE'LL ANSWER THEM.

SO IMPACT FEES ARE ESTABLISHED FOR WATER AND WASTEWATER INFRASTRUCTURE.

BACK IN 2005, UM CITY STAFF, UH CITY STAFF BROUGHT FORWARD UM, THOSE IMPACT FEES BACK IN 2005, AND THEY'VE BEEN REVISED IN 2010 AND 19.

UM, AND THEN IN 17 AND 18, THE WATER ASSESSED FEES WERE CHANGED, AND THEN 2019 WASTEWATER FEES WERE UPDATED.

UM, THE ROADWAY IMPACT FEES WERE UH, UPDATED IN 2017.

AND THEN NOW IN 2023 WILL BE THE FIRST TIME THAT WE'VE UPDATED THOSE NUMBERS.

JUST A QUICK REMINDER WATER AND WASTEWATER IMPACT FEES CAN ONLY BE USED FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT ARE WITHIN OUR CCN AND THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THE WASTEWATER IMPACT FEE.

CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.

AND ON THE ROADWAY SIDE, IMPACT FEES CAN ONLY BE USED ON CAPITAL PROJECTS WITHIN THE GIVEN SERVICE AREA, AND ALSO THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.

IMPACT FEES CAN BE USED TO OFFSET COSTS WITH REGARDS TO RIGHT OF WAY AND EASEMENT ACQUISITION, DESIGN, SURVEY AND CONSTRUCTION OF PROJECTS THAT, UH, INCLUDE ANYTHING WITH DRAINAGE, INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS, ANYTHING THAT IMPROVES ROADWAY CAPACITY, AND ANY OFF-SITE UTILITY IMPROVEMENTS THAT INCREASE INCREASE CAPACITY.

THEY CANNOT BE USED FOR MAINTENANCE COSTS.

ITEMS WITHIN THE ETJ, ANYTHING THAT'S TRAFFIC CALMING OR THINGS THAT DO NOT INCREASE CAPACITY.

CPAC. THE COUNCIL APPOINTED A NEW AND EXPANDED CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM ADVISORY COMMITTEE OF NINE MEMBERS.

EIGHT OF THOSE MEMBERS WERE APPOINTED IN MARCH OF THIS YEAR.

THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR FILING SEMIANNUAL REPORTS.

THEY REVIEW THE ANALYSIS OF OUR CONSULTANTS FOR IMPACT FEE STUDIES, AND THEN THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR RECOMMENDING THE IMPACT FEES TO COUNCIL.

THIS WAS INITIALLY PRESENTED TO COUNCIL ON OCTOBER 2ND, AND AGAIN WAS APPROVED ON FIRST READING IN NOVEMBER.

JUST A QUICK REMINDER.

IMPACT FEES HELP OFFSET THE COST OF CONSTRUCTION FROM JUNE OF 2017, WHEN ROADWAY IMPACT FEES WERE ADOPTED TO JUNE OF 2023, CONSTRUCTION COSTS HAVE NEARLY DOUBLED.

SO WITH THAT, THERE'S SOME UPDATES TO THE ORDINANCE.

UH, RECOMMENDED.

UM, THEY'RE ALL LISTED HERE.

I'M NOT GOING TO GO INTO DETAILS ON ALL OF THEM.

THE BIGGEST THINGS HAVE TO DO WITH THE NEW ASSESSED FEES, IF ADOPTED TODAY, THE NEW ASSESSED FEES WOULD GO INTO EFFECT ON JANUARY 1ST.

UM, AND SO ANY QUESTIONS ON THESE? I'D BE MORE HAPPY TO ANSWER.

THESE ARE THE SAME RECOMMENDATIONS WE HAD DURING THE FIRST READING.

ROADWAY IMPACT FEES.

WE'RE GOING TO SPEND A LITTLE BIT OF TIME ON THESE.

UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, THE ROADWAY IMPACT FEES THAT ARE CURRENT ARE THE SAME FOR RESIDENTIAL AND NON RESIDENTIAL AND INDUSTRIAL, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF AREA D WITH INDUSTRIAL. UM AND THEN THERE'S ALSO AN ASTERISK NEXT TO AREA.

UH AREA C.

AND I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT FURTHER.

SO UH THE CURRENT ORDINANCE WITH REGARDS TO ROADWAY IMPACT FEES, IT SAYS THAT NEW DEVELOPMENT LOCATED WITHIN SERVICE AREA C AND WITHIN THE OLD TOWN OVERLAY DISTRICT, SHALL BE EXEMPT FROM THE REQUIREMENT OF ROADWAY IMPACT FEES.

THE RECOMMENDATION IN THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE IS THE SAME.

SO ANY NEW ANY DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE OLD TOWN OVERLAY DISTRICT WOULD BE EXEMPT FROM ROADWAY IMPACT FEES.

UM, THAT IS FROM THE OLD ORDINANCE WE'RE KEEPING.

AND THE NEW ORDINANCE, THE RECOMMENDATION FOR THAT IS BECAUSE ONE WITH THAT EXEMPTION IMPACT FEES THAT ARE ANY IMPACT FEES, SINCE WE DO NOT COLLECT IMPACT FEES WITHIN THE OLD TOWN OVERLAY DISTRICT, WE WILL NOT USE IMPACT FEES TOWARDS ANY PROJECTS WITHIN THE OLD TOWN OVERLAY DISTRICT.

ALSO, THERE ARE NO PROJECTS PLANNED FOR IMPROVEMENTS WITHIN THE OLD TOWN OVERLAY DISTRICT, SO IMPACT FEES WOULD NOT BE GOING TOWARDS ANY IMPROVEMENTS WITHIN THE OLD TOWN OVERLAY. SO THE RECOMMENDATION FROM STAFF WOULD BE TO CONTINUE TO NOT COLLECT FEES WITHIN THE OLD TOWN OVERLAY, SINCE THERE WAS NO IMPROVEMENTS THERE.

THE SPACE IS BUILT OUT.

THERE'S NO REALLY TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS WE CAN DO WITHIN THAT AREA.

SO WE WOULD RECOMMEND KEEPING THAT ASTERIX AND THAT EXEMPTION IN PLACE.

ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT ONE? NOPE. UH MOVING ON.

UH, AREA D SO, UH, CURRENT ORDINANCE, THERE IS A, A SET RATE OR SET FEE FOR INDUSTRIAL LAND USES AND SERVICE AREA D OF $0.

SO THE ADDITIONAL ORDINANCE WAS APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL IN 2017, IN ORDER TO ATTRACT INDUSTRIAL USAGE TO THE HIGH POINT BUSINESS PARK.

THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE WOULD REINSTATE AN IMPACT FEE AND SERVICE AREA D.

THIS WAS THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE C-PAC UM TO BRING THAT BACK.

HOWEVER, COUNCIL CAN SET THAT FEE AT ANY DOLLAR AMOUNT THEY WANT.

I WANTED TO TOUCH ON THAT BECAUSE THAT IS A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE FROM PREVIOUS THE PREVIOUS ROADWAY IMPACT FEES.

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ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT ONE? COMMENTS. SO JUST A REMINDER SOME ROADWAY IMPACT FEE BENCHMARKING.

SO FOR A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE, THE CURRENT ASSESSED FEE TODAY IS APPROXIMATELY $2,000.

WITH THE UPDATED FEE, WE'D BE ABOUT $6,500.

ON THE WAY AT WATER AND WASTEWATER SIDE.

THE WATER IMPACT FEE IS GOING FROM 2624 DOWN TO 2492.

ON THE WASTEWATER SIDE, WE'RE GOING FROM 1312 UP TO 1731.

UH, BENCHMARKING WISE, THIS IS WHERE 2019.

UH, WE WERE AT 39, 36 ON AVERAGE FOR A SINGLE FAMILY HOME.

WE'RE GOING UP TO 4223.

UM, WITH THE MAX ALLOWED, WHEN YOU ADD ON, UH, FORT WORTH'S FEES, OBVIOUSLY WE SHIFT A LITTLE BIT TO THE RIGHT, TO THE HIGHER SCALE.

AND THAT'S BECAUSE OF THE FORT WORTH FEES BEING PASSED THROUGH ON AN AVERAGE SINGLE FAMILY HOME BEING CONSTRUCTED.

THE NEW FEES WOULD RISE FROM ABOUT $7,800 TO ABOUT $12,600.

PREVIOUSLY. COUNCIL TOOK ACTION ON NOVEMBER 13TH AND THEY APPROVED THE FEES AS RECOMMENDED ON BOTH THE WATER AND WASTEWATER IMPACT FEES AS WELL AS THE ROADWAY IMPACT FEE ORDINANCE. AND TONIGHT, THE TWO ACTIONS BEING REQUESTED ARE FOR APPROVAL OF AMENDING THE CURRENT IMPACT FEE ORDINANCE ON BOTH THE WATER AND WASTEWATER, AS WELL AS THE ROADWAY IMPACT FEE.

STAFF CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

ANYBODY. I DO HAVE COMMENTS, AND I BELIEVE THAT THE REASONING AND THE LOGIC BEHIND EXEMPTING INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT IN SERVICE AREA D THAT WAS INSTATED IN 2017 IS JUST AS VALID TODAY.

AND I THINK THAT WE NEED EVERY ADVANTAGE THAT WE CAN PUT OUT THERE IN ORDER TO ATTRACT INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT TO OUR BUSINESS PARK AND TO THE EXPANDED AREA AROUND OUR BUSINESS PARK.

AND I'D ALSO GO A LITTLE FURTHER WITH THE WITH THE LOGIC THERE TO SAY THAT TYPICALLY INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPERS WANT TO BE DIRECTLY ON THE INTERSTATE IF POSSIBLE, OR AS CLOSE TO IT AS POSSIBLE.

SO I'D MAKE A GOOD ARGUMENT.

I THINK THAT THE INCREASED TRAFFIC, UH, AND WEAR AND TEAR ON THE CITY'S INFRASTRUCTURE IS ONLY MARGINALLY AFFECTED, IF AFFECTED AT ALL, BY THE INCREASE IN TRAFFIC FROM THESE INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENTS ALONG AREA D, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY ALONG THE INTERSTATE.

SO, UH, I THINK WE HAD A GOOD IDEA WHEN WE EXEMPTED THEM IN 2017.

I THINK IT'S STILL A GOOD IDEA.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO AMEND, UH, THE, THE FEE SCHEDULE TO GO BACK TO CHARGING NO ROADWAY IMPACT FEES, UH, FOR INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT WITHIN AREA D.

SO YOU'RE ONLY PACIFIC TO AREA D, JUST AS WE HAD IT BEFORE.

WHAT WAS EXEMPT BEFORE SHOULD SHOULD CONTINUE TO BE EXEMPT.

OTHER THAN THAT I'LL SUPPORT THE THE FEE SCHEDULE AS WE HAVE IT AS RECOMMENDED BY THE SEA.

IT'S A MATTER OF POLICY.

IT'S THE THE CPAC DID WHAT WE ASKED THEM TO DO.

THEY EVALUATE COST, EXPENSES, FUTURE PLANS, REQUIREMENTS AND ADJUST THE FEES ACCORDINGLY.

THEY DID THAT, BUT THE OFFERING OF THE WAIVER BUILT INTO A PACKAGE OF DEVELOPMENT PACKAGE IS A COUNCIL POLICY DECISION.

THAT'S THAT'S OUR DECISION.

WE CAN CHOOSE TO DO THAT.

AND I AND I WOULD ADVISE PERSONALLY THAT WE CONTINUE THAT EXEMPTION.

THANK YOU. GO AHEAD.

MR.. MR. MAYOR, ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WOULD ARISE WITH THAT IS IT IS PERMISSIBLE TO CARVE THE INDUSTRIAL PARKS OUT OF AREA D AND REMOVE THEM.

THE CRITICAL THING WE HAVE TO REMEMBER IS YOU CANNOT EXEMPT AND YOU CANNOT WAIVE IF THEY ARE SUBJECT TO RECEIVING THE BENEFIT OF THE IMPACT FEE.

THAT'S THE REASON I SAY WE CARVED THEM OUT.

IF WE SAY WE'VE GOT IDENTIFIED INDUSTRIAL PARKS, WE SIMPLY DRAW A BOX AND CUT THEM OUT OF AREA D.

THEY ARE NOT PART OF THE FEE SYSTEM.

THEY DO NOT RECEIVE ANY OF THE MONEY.

THE MONEY CANNOT BE USED THERE AND THEY DO NOT PAY IT.

THAT'S THE CRITICAL ELEMENT.

THE WAY 395 IS STRUCTURED.

IF YOU ARE, IF YOU ARE CAPABLE OF RECEIVING THE MONEY, YOU HAVE TO PAY THE MONEY FOR THAT PROPERTY.

YOU CAN'T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS.

SO IT'S PERFECTLY PERMISSIBLE TO DO WHAT THE MAYOR PRO TEM IS SUGGESTING.

BUT WE WOULD HAVE TO CUT OUT OF THAT BOX THOSE AREAS IN OUR IMPACT FEE MAP FOR AREA D.

SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A CONTINUATION OF WHAT WE'VE ALREADY GOT.

AND THE THING ABOUT IT IS THAT SYSTEM IS WORKING FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TO COME IN HERE.

AND THIS THIS WILL WORK.

WE SIMPLY ON THE MAP EXCISE THOSE AREAS OUT.

WE DRAW THEM OUT OF THE BOX AND IT'S FINE.

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WELL, WHAT'S WORKING RIGHT NOW? I DON'T WANT TO CHANGE IT.

I MEAN, IT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING OR WE DON'T WANT.

WE'RE NOT USING THE MONEY IN THERE.

THAT'S OKAY. BUT WE CAN CARVE OUT TONIGHT.

WE CAN DO IT. WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE ANOTHER STAFF TO AMEND THE AREA D MAP TO REMOVE THE INDUSTRIAL PARKS FROM THAT AREA.

A CITY HAS A CHOICE UNDER 395 WHETHER OR NOT TO IMPOSE IMPACT FEES.

IF YOU DO, YOU HAVE TO IDENTIFY THE AREAS AND THE FEES ARE APPLICABLE IN THE AREAS AND THEY RECEIVE THE BENEFIT OF IT.

THAT'S HOW WE CUT OUT THE OLD TOWN.

IN ESSENCE, WE CUT IT OUT OF THE BOX.

IT CANNOT RECEIVE THE MONEY.

IT DOES NOT PAY THE MONEY.

ANYBODY ELSE.

YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION, DAN? HELP ME IF I WORD THIS CORRECTLY, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO VOTE TO APPROVE THE FEE.

LET'S SEE THE ROLL. WELL, THE IMPACT FEE ORDINANCE AS PRESENTED WITH THE EXCEPTION THAT WE WILL CARVE OUT INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT IN AREA D AND MAKE THAT EXEMPT FROM ROADWAY IMPACT FEES.

SO WE NEED TWO MOTIONS.

CORRECT. WE NEED A MOTION ON ITEM A WHICH IS JUST WATER AND WASTEWATER.

OKAY. THEN YOUR MOTION WILL BE ON ITEM B WHICH WILL BE THE ROADWAY IMPACT FEE.

YOU'RE RIGHT. OKAY.

UH, IN THAT CASE, LET ME AMEND MY MOTION TO SEVEN A TO APPROVE THE WATER AND WASTEWATER IMPACT FEES AS PRESENTED.

SECOND MOTION BY DAN A SECOND BY ADAM.

PLEASE VOTE. PASS IS UNANIMOUS.

NOW WE'RE ON THE 7BB.

NOW THEN I WILL MOVE TO APPROVE SEVEN B WITH THE AFOREMENTIONED EXCEPTIONS OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT IN THE SERVICE AREA D.

THERE A SECOND. SECOND THE MOTION.

I HAVE A MOTION BY DAN AND A SECOND BY LARRY.

PLEASE VOTE. PASSES.

UNANIMOUS. THANK YOU MAYOR.

THANK YOU COUNCIL. THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM SEVEN.

C CONSIDER APPROVAL OF AN AMENDMENT TO THE AGREEMENT FOR WATER SERVICES BETWEEN THE CITY OF FORT WORTH AND THE CITY OF BURLESON TO ONE AUTHORIZE

[7.C. Consider approval of an amendment to the agreement for water service between the City of Fort Worth and the City of Burleson to 1) authorize milestone payments for Burleson’s cost share of a water transmission line estimated at $16,331,504 and 2) increase Burleson’s eastern water volume capacity from two million gallons per day to 13 million gallons per day. (Staff Presenter: Errick Thompson, Director of Public Works & Engineering)]

MILESTONE PAYMENTS FOR BURLESON COST SHARE OF A WATER TRANSMISSION LINE ESTIMATED AT $16,331,504, AND TWO INCREASE BURLESON EASTERN WATER VOLUME CAPACITY FROM 2 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY TO 13 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY.

THE STAFF PRESENTED THIS EVENING IS ERIC THOMPSON, DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS AND ENGINEERING, MR. THOMPSON. THANK YOU, MISS CAMPOS, AND GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

UH, THIS IS A PRETTY EXCITING ITEM TO BRING BEFORE YOU, UM, BECAUSE IT IT'S PRETTY CRITICAL TO FUTURE GROWTH AND CONTINUED GROWTH IN BURLESON.

UM, BURLESON HAS CONTRACTED WITH THE CITY OF FORT WORTH SINCE AT LEAST 1963 FOR WATER SERVICES.

UH, THAT CONTRACT WAS IT MOST RECENTLY AMENDED IN 2011? UH, SO THE CURRENT TIRM EXPIRES IN 2031.

UH, YOU MAY BE AWARE THAT WE RECEIVE WATER FROM FORT WORTH TREATED WATER AT TWO DIFFERENT ENTRY POINTS, ONE ON THE WESTERN SIDE OF THE CITY AND ONE ON THE EASTERN SIDE OF THE CITY.

UH, WE'RE ALLOWED TO, UH, RECEIVE UP TO 10 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY ON THE WEST SIDE AND UP TO 2 MILLION CURRENTLY ON THE EAST SIDE.

UM, THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT BEFORE YOU TONIGHT HAS TWO VERY IMPORTANT OBJECTIVES.

ONE IS TO ESTABLISH THE CITY'S PARTICIPATION IN A HUGE CAPITAL INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT WITH FORT WORTH, AND THAT'S TO CONSTRUCT A DESIGN AND CONSTRUCT A TRANSMISSION MAIN, UH, THAT WOULD ALLOW THE CITY OF BURLESON TO RECEIVE MORE WATER.

SO THE SECOND OBJECTIVE IS TO INCREASE OUR VOLUME ON THE EAST SIDE FROM THE CURRENT 2 MILLION GALLONS TODAY, A DAY TO 13 MILLION. AND THAT 13 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY WOULD GET US TO CURRENT BUILD OUT.

UH, SO I THINK IN YOUR CURRENT STRATEGIC PLAN FOR THE CITY, UM, SECURING WATER FOR BUILD OUT IS ONE OF THE KEY OBJECTIVES THAT THAT YOU SET FOR THE CITY.

UH, SO WE'RE EXCITED TO BE ABLE TO BRING THIS FORWARD BECAUSE IT, UM, BASICALLY ACCOMPLISHES THAT OBJECTIVE.

UH, SO THERE'S COST SHARING FOR THE PROJECT.

AGAIN, THIS IS THIS PROJECT IS BEING IMPLEMENTED BY THE CITY OF FORT WORTH IN ORDER TO SERVE ITS WHOLESALE CUSTOMERS, INCLUDING BURLESON, TO THE SOUTH OF FORT WORTH.

UH, THE TOTAL ESTIMATED PROJECT IS ANTICIPATED TO BE RIGHT AT 57 MILLION.

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AND THIS PIE CHART HERE KIND OF GIVES YOU A BREAKDOWN OF WHO'S PAYING HOW MUCH.

UH, SO THE BURLESON FAIR, UH, PRO RATA SHARE IS ABOUT 16.3 MILLION.

UM, THE THE ARRANGEMENT HERE IS THAT WE WOULD PARTICIPATE IN THE COST UP FRONT, UM, PARTLY SO THAT WE MAKE THE PROJECT A LITTLE CHEAPER FOR US INSTEAD OF PAYING OUR DEBT SERVICE AND FORT WORTH'S DEBT SERVICE, IF WE PARTICIPATE ALONG THE WAY, WE CAN ELIMINATE, UH, OUR PORTION OF THEIR DEBT SERVICE GOING FORWARD.

SO THIS IS A LITTLE OVERVIEW OF THE TIMELINE.

AND THE CURRENT ENGINEERS ESTIMATE UH 60% DESIGN IS UNDERWAY NOW HAS BEEN FOR ABOUT A YEAR, A LITTLE OVER A YEAR.

UH, OUR COST SHARE FOR THE THAT PART OF THE DESIGN IS 651,000.

UM, FINAL DESIGN IS SCHEDULED TO START IN MARCH AND END IN MARCH OF 25.

UH, OUR SHARE OF THAT COST IS ABOUT 832,000.

UH, THERE'S A LITTLE SOME EASEMENT ACQUISITION.

UM, LIKE, IT'S SCHEDULED TO BEGIN OCTOBER OF 24TH THROUGH MARCH OF OR FEBRUARY OF 26.

OUR SHARE IS ABOUT 1.3 MILLION.

UH, THERE ARE TWO STAGES OF CONSTRUCTION.

UM. OUR COMBINED COST FOR THOSE TWO PHASES ARE ABOUT 13.5 MILLION.

SO FOR AN OVERALL BURLESON COST OF 16.3 MILLION OUT OF THE 57 MILLION ROUGHLY.

SO THIS HAS BEEN ON THE RADAR FOR A WHILE.

UH, SO THE CURRENT WATER AND SEWER FIVE YEAR CAPITAL PLAN ANTICIPATES AND INCLUDES THIS PROJECT.

IT'S KIND OF HIGHLIGHTED IN THE MIDDLE THERE.

UH, IT'S BEEN CALLED THE OFFSITE WATER SUPPLY FROM FORT WORTH PROJECT FOR THIS PURPOSE.

UH, SO YOU'LL SEE THAT WE HAVE THE 651,000 PROGRAMED IN THE CURRENT YEAR, FY 24.

UM, WE HAD OLDER ESTIMATES IN 25 AND 26.

UM, AND A TOTAL THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE LESS THAN $100,000 LESS THAN THE CURRENT ENGINEER'S ESTIMATE.

SO IN THE NEXT UPDATE TO THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM AND PLAN, UH, LATER THIS FISCAL YEAR, WE WOULD PLAN TO RECOMMEND THOSE ADJUSTMENTS TO YOU SO THAT WE CAN, UM, HAVE THE FUNDING THAT BURLESON NEEDS TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE PROJECT AS THOSE MILESTONES, UH, COME UP.

SO AGAIN IN THE FY 24 WE'VE GOT THE 651 IN THE CURRENT CURRENT YEAR BUDGET.

UH, FORT WORTH IS ACTUALLY WAITING FOR THIS AGREEMENT TO BE APPROVED SO THAT THIS PAYMENT CAN ACTUALLY BE SUBMITTED.

UM, IN FY 25, WE WOULD MAKE THE ADJUSTMENT TO INCREASE THAT NUMBER TO 6.387, AS SHOWN ON THIS SLIDE.

AND IN FY 26, UH, THE NEW REVISED NUMBER WILL BE 9.229 FOR THE TOTAL.

WELL THESE ARE THE NUMBERS THAT ARE ACTUALLY IN THE CURRENT, UH, CIP.

WE NEED AN ADDITIONAL 63,000.

SO WHEN YOU SEE THE NEXT UPDATE OF THE CIP IN THE NEXT OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL MONTHS, UH, WE WOULD ANTICIPATE RECOMMENDING AN ADDITIONAL 63 MILLION, 63,000 TO MAKE THE FUNDING FOR THE PROJECT COMPLETE.

UH, THE MAP ON THE RIGHT GIVES US A LITTLE BIT OF AN IDEA OF THE COMPONENTS OF THE PROJECT.

YOU'VE GOT A MAJOR TRANSMISSION LINE FROM THE NORTH COMING DOWN.

UH, THERE'S A PIECE THAT BRANCHES OFF TO SERVES CROWLEY.

THAT'S KIND OF IN THE DARKER BLUE.

UM, THERE'S ANOTHER PIECE THAT ARE IN GREEN.

THERE'S ANOTHER COMPONENT TO THE SOUTH OF US THAT, UH, OR TO THE EAST THAT SERVES BETHESDA WATER.

UH, AND THEN KIND OF AN ORANGE SECTION THAT IS FOR BURLESON.

AND THEN WE ALL KIND OF PAY OUR PROPORTIONAL SHARE OF THE, UH, THE RED PIECE.

UH, THE SOLID RED PIECE.

AND THEN THE CITY OF FORT WORTH OBVIOUSLY PARTICIPATES IN, UH, MORE OF THE NORTHERN PART OF THE PROJECT.

SO AS I MENTIONED A LITTLE BIT IN THE INTRO, UH, THIS MAKES A HUGE STEP TOWARDS ONE OF THE CITY COUNCIL'S STRATEGIC PLAN ELEMENTS OF SECURING ADDITIONAL WATER SUPPLY. UH, IT ALSO SUPPORTS ELEMENTS OF THE RECENTLY ADOPTED WATER MASTER PLAN BY SECURING SECURING BUILD OUT WATER SUPPLY NEEDS.

AND THEN IT COMPLEMENTS OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE UNDERWAY, SUCH AS THE EXPANSION OF THE INDUSTRIAL PUMP STATION AND SOME ADDITIONAL STORAGE FACILITY PROJECTS. SO OPTIONS TONIGHT, UH, TO APPROVE THE AMENDMENT TO THE WATER SERVICES AGREEMENT OR

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DENY. AND OBVIOUSLY, WE WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU WOULD APPROVE.

HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.

ANYBODY? I THINK IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE THE LAST TIME THIS CAME UP, FORT WORTH CAME TO US AND WANTED $14 MILLION TO BUILD A SEWER LINE THAT WE DON'T NEED YET, BUT WE WILL NEED SOMEDAY.

AND NOW WE'RE BEING ASKED TO KICK IN $16 MILLION, ONE THIRD OF OUR FIVE YEAR CIP TO BUILD A WATER LINE THAT ACTUALLY IS GOING TO BELONG TO FORT WORTH.

BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO BE PHILOSOPHICAL ABOUT IT.

THEY, UH, THEY KNOW THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE THEIR FUTURE CUSTOMERS FOR THIS, UH, WATER CAPACITY THAT THEY NEED TO BUILD NOW.

AND IF WE COULD JUST IDENTIFY WHO OUR FUTURE CUSTOMERS ARE GOING TO BE AND GO GET THEM TO PAY US TO DO IT, THEN WE'D BE IN THE MIDDLEMAN ROLE AND HAVING A GOOD TIME JUST LIKE THEM.

BUT, UH, IT KIND OF CHAPS ME THAT WE'VE GOT TO FUND $16 MILLION WORTH OF FORT WORTH, $16 MILLION WORTH OF FORT WORTH CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.

BUT THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT IS.

AND IF WE WERE OUR OWN WATER SUPPLIER, WE'D HAVE TO PROBABLY MAKE SIMILAR DECISIONS FOR OUR OWN FACILITY.

SO, UH, I'LL.

I'LL SUPPORT THIS.

UH, ARE YOU READY FOR A MOTION OR DOES ANYBODY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SO OUR CONTRACT CURRENTLY, ERIC, IS YOU SAID THROUGH 31 CURRENTLY IS THERE I MEAN, WE DON'T HAVE A CRYSTAL BALL TO SAY FORT WORTH COULD LOOK AT US AT 31 AND IN YEAR 31 AND SAY, KIDDING.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO PROVIDE YOUR WATER ANYMORE.

BUT WHAT WOULD HAPPEN WITH A PIPELINE LIKE THIS IF THEY DID? LIKE THEY WOULD JUST SHUT IT OFF? IT'S A VERY EXTREME EXAMPLE.

UM, SO THE PIPELINE ACTUALLY SERVES TO THE SOUTH OF BURLESON AS WELL.

SO I DON'T KNOW THAT IT WOULD COMPLETELY BE SHUT OFF.

IT WOULD PROBABLY BE VERY UNDERUTILIZED IF BURLESON WERE NO LONGER TAKING WATER.

BUT FROM A REGIONAL PERSPECTIVE.

BURLESON IS GOING TO BE HERE, SO THERE WILL BE A DEMAND FOR THAT WATER.

UM. SO KOREA HAS A VALID QUESTION ON THIS THING, BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS THROUGH THE COUNTY AS THE FACT THAT WE'RE GROWING SO MUCH THAT WATER IS GOING TO BE AN ISSUE.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT'LL BE IN THE 30S, BUT IT'S COMING.

TODAY IS COMING. BUT THAT IS A VALID QUESTION.

I DON'T DISAGREE, IT'S A VALID QUESTION, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WATER IS GOING TO BE AT A PREMIUM FOR THE ENTIRE REGION.

I MEAN, IF YOU LOOK AT ANY POPULATION PROJECTIONS, IT'S ONLY GOING TO BECOME MORE OF A, OF A COMMODITY.

UM, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I JUST CAN'T FORESEE A SCENARIO IN WHICH FORT WORTH WOULD SAY THAT WE'RE NO LONGER GOING TO SERVE YOU.

SO, COUNCIL MEMBER JOHNSON, I DON'T WANT TO PUT WORDS IN YOUR MOUTH, BUT I ASSUME YOU'RE CONCERNED IS FORT WORTH IS GOING TO PRIORITIZE THEIR SELF OVER THEIR THEIR CUSTOMERS.

RIGHT. SO I THINK HOW I WOULD ANSWER THAT IS THAT ONE, WE'RE LOOKING AT A REDUNDANCY STUDY THIS YEAR OF WHERE WE COULD GET A TRUE SECONDARY WATER SOURCE.

THAT'S THE INFANCY STAGE, RIGHT? THAT'S THE FIRST STEP THAT YOU HAVE TO TAKE.

IT WOULD BE COSTLY.

PROBABLY ADD ANOTHER ZERO ON TO THE NUMBER WE'VE GIVEN YOU TONIGHT TO TALK ABOUT SECONDARY WATER, TRUE SECONDARY WATER SOURCES.

I THINK THE OTHER THING I WOULD SAY TOO, THOUGH, IS THAT FORT WORTH IS VERY MUCH LIKE US AND THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE PLANNING LONG TERME.

THEY'RE LOOKING AT 20 YEARS, THEY'RE LOOKING AT WHAT THEIR CONSUMPTION IS GOING TO BE, WHAT THEIR GROWTH IS GOING TO BE, WHO THEIR CUSTOMERS ARE GOING TO BE.

SO I AGREE WITH MR. THOMPSON IN THAT IT WOULD BE SOMETHING WOULD DRAMATICALLY HAVE TO SHIFT FOR THAT TO HAPPEN.

BUT WE ARE TRYING TO ANTICIPATE, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS OUR BACKUP PLAN? I HOPE THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION.

WE'RE READY FOR A MOTION HERE.

I HAVE A MOTION BY DAN, SECONDED BY ADAM.

PLEASE VOTE. PASS IS UNANIMOUS.

THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM SEVEN D CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A RIGHT OF WAY.

[7.D. Consider approval of a Right-of-Way Use Agreement for a metal awning and posts over an existing outdoor seating patio at 133 S. Wilson Street, Spice Rack Bar & Grill. (Staff Contact: Emilio Sanchez, Development Services Assistant Director)]

USE AGREEMENT FOR A METAL AWNING AND POSTS OVER AN EXISTING OUTDOOR SEATING PATIO AT 133 SOUTH WILSON STREET SPICE RACK BAR AND GRILL.

THE STAFF PRESENTER THIS EVENING IS EMILIO SANCHEZ, DIRECTOR, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ASSISTANT DIRECTOR.

GOOD EVENING. MAYOR COUNCIL.

UH, AGAIN, THIS IS A RIGHT OF WAY ENCROACHMENT AGREEMENT FOR THE SPICE RACK BAR AND GRILL, LOCATED AT 133 SOUTH WILSON STREET.

UH, HERE IN OLD TOWN.

A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY ON THE PROPERTY.

BACK IN APRIL OF 2021, THE COUNCIL APPROVED A OUTDOOR SEATING PATIO REQUEST FOR A RIGHT OF WAY ENCROACHMENT AGREEMENT WITH THE APPLICANT.

UH, THE PROPOSED REVOCABLE RIGHT OF WAY AGREEMENT WAS TEMPORARY INSTALLATION FOR THE TEMPORARY INSTALLATION OF DINING TABLES TO CREATE A PUBLIC SPACE.

UH, IF THERE WAS AT THAT TIME, THE CONCEPT PLAN SHOWED NO ROOF OR AWNING.

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THIS WAS THE APPROVED CONCEPT PLAN AT THAT TIME, IN APRIL OF 2021.

UH, THIS IS WHAT'S CURRENTLY CONSTRUCTED ON THE SITE.

AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE ARE TABLES AND CHAIRS.

UH, I GUESS A LITTLE BIT MORE HISTORY.

I APOLOGIZE.

UH, THE THE AREA THAT'S KIND OF CIRCLED IN RED IN A RECTANGLE WAS, IF YOU GUYS CAN REMEMBER BACK, UM, WAS A RAISED PLANTER BED THAT HAD A DEAD OAK TREE.

I BELIEVE IN WITHIN THAT.

SO IT WAS A STRIPED AREA THAT WASN'T UTILIZED FOR PARKING, BUT IT DID HAVE A LANDSCAPE.

IT DID HAVE A LANDSCAPE BED THAT WAS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT SITE.

UM, DURING THE CONVERSATIONS ON THAT APRIL 20TH 12TH, 2021 MEETING, I BELIEVE THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL TO THE APPLICANT OR TO, UH, THE DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AT THE TIME FOR FINDING OUT WHAT THE PROPOSED SOLUTION WAS FOR REMOVING THAT RAISED BED AREA AND KIND OF SMOOTHING OUT, I THINK, WAS THE TIME THAT WAS USED HERE IN THE MEETING.

UH, THAT PARTICULAR AREA.

UH, THE APPLICANT CHOSE TO INSTALL CONCRETE TO HELP LEVEL THAT AREA OUT AND MAKE IT SUITABLE FOR THE SEATING AREA, INSTALLING THE POST FOR THE AWNING AS WELL.

AGAIN, THIS TONIGHT'S REQUEST IS FOR A NEW RIGHT OF WAY ENCROACHMENT AGREEMENT THAT WOULD INCLUDE THE POST AND THE METAL AWNING.

UH, APPROXIMATELY THE THE SIZE IS APPROXIMATELY 16.5FT BY 32.5FT IN LENGTH.

UH, 16FT WIDE BY 32.5FT IN DEPTH.

UH, THE IMPROVEMENT WILL REQUIRE A PERMIT.

HOWEVER, A BUILDING PERMIT CANNOT BE ISSUED UNTIL THE RIGHT OF WAY.

ENCROACHMENT AGREEMENT IS APPROVED THROUGH THIS BODY.

SO AFTER THE APPROVAL, IF IT IS APPROVED, THE APPLICANT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO GET, UH, APPLY FOR BUILDING PERMITS ALONG WITH RECEIVING HIS INSPECTIONS. UH, BEFORE THEY WOULD BE ISSUED A FINAL AS PART OF THE RIGHT OF WAY USE AGREEMENT.

THERE ARE 12 CONDITIONS THAT WERE PLACED ON THE RIGHT OF WAY ENCROACHMENT AGREEMENT.

I'D BE HAPPY TO GO OVER EACH ONE OF THESE, BUT BASICALLY THESE ARE SOME INSURANCES THROUGH THE AGREEMENT THAT THE APPLICANT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO DO CERTAIN THINGS.

UH, IF THEY DECIDE TO REMOVE OR IF THE RIGHT OF WAY, UH, ENCROACHMENT IS NEEDING TO BE NEEDED TO BE MOVED FOR MAINTENANCE OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES. REQUESTED ACTIONS TONIGHT ARE TO APPROVE THE RIGHT OF WAY, USE AGREEMENT OR TO DENY THE RIGHT OF WAY USE AGREEMENT MYSELF.

UH, I WOULD BE HERE TO ANSWER AND ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE, AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE IN THE AUDIENCE AS WELL TO ANSWER ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

ANY QUESTIONS? ANYTHING.

I'M PERSONALLY FOR THIS I THERE ARE GOOD BUSINESS IN OUR OUR OLD TOWN AND I WANT TO SUPPORT THEM.

SO I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS.

I WISH IT WERE AS EASY AS IT SOUNDS, BUT UNFORTUNATELY WE'VE ALREADY HAD A SIMILAR CASE COME TO US WHERE ANOTHER GOOD BUSINESS OWNER ASKED PERMISSION TO DO JUST ABOUT THIS EXACT THING AND WAS NOT GRANTED.

UH, AND AMONG THE REASONS CITED WAS BECAUSE NOTHING IN THAT APPLICANT'S, UM, PROPOSAL INDICATED THAT THAT THEY WOULD INTEND TO BUILD A STRUCTURE THAT WOULD BE HARMONIOUS AND LOOK LIKE IT BELONGED IN A EARLY 20TH CENTURY TEXAS OLD TOWN, WHICH IS THE WAY WE LIKE TO SEE THINGS DONE.

UH, HAD THAT BEEN PRESENTED A DIFFERENT WAY, IT MIGHT HAVE GONE DIFFERENTLY, BUT IT WAS REJECTED, AND I DON'T REALLY SEE HOW WE CAN IN GOOD CONSCIENCE.

CONSCIENCE. UM, RELATIVE TO THE PREVIOUS APPLICANT WHO WAS DENIED TO APPROVE AFTER THE FACT SOMETHING OF SIMILAR NATURE THAT WAS BUILT, UH, IN OBVIOUSLY NOT IN DIRECT VIOLATION OF ANYTHING, BUT JUST IN A CALL IT A MISUNDERSTANDING ABOUT WHAT THE, UH, RIGHT OF WAY AGREEMENT ENTITLED THEM TO DO, OR EITHER THEY JUST DECIDED TO DO IT AND HOPE NOBODY SAID ANYTHING.

BUT I DON'T LIKE TO THINK OF THINGS LIKE THAT.

I WHAT I HAVE TO THINK ABOUT IS IF I VOTE TO APPROVE THIS STRUCTURE TO STAY AS IT IS, THEN HOW WILL I TELL THE NEXT APPLICANT OR THE FORMER APPLICANT THAT YOU CAN'T DO THIS BECAUSE YOU WERE NICE ENOUGH TO COME AND ASK AND TRY TO GO THROUGH THE FRONT DOOR WHILE SOMEBODY ELSE DID IT WITHOUT, FOR WHATEVER REASON, NOT ASKING AND JUST DOING IT SO I CAN'T SUPPORT IT FROM THAT VIEWPOINT.

NOW I KNOW THAT'S GOING TO BE A BAD DECISION FOR THIS BUSINESS OWNER.

I LIKE THIS BUSINESS. I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST THEM, BUT I DON'T WANT TO SEE METAL CARPORT LOOKING STRUCTURES POP UP ALL OVER OLD TOWN, SIMPLY BECAUSE WE GAVE AWAY OUR ABILITY

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TO REFUSE BY ALLOWING SOMEONE TO DO IT.

I DON'T BELIEVE HAD THIS BEEN PRESENTED TO US BEFORE IT WAS CONSTRUCTED, THAT IT WOULD HAVE FARED ANY BETTER THAN THE OLD TEXAS BREWING COMPANY UH, PROPOSAL FARED BECAUSE WE AS A BODY DECIDED THAT WASN'T WHAT WE WANTED, AND WE SAID NO.

UH, I HAVE TO SAY NO HERE, AND I DON'T LIKE IT.

AND I'LL DO APOLOGIES TO ANYONE THAT THAT OFFENDS OR IMPACTS, BUT I THINK I WANT TO SEE A BETTER STRUCTURE HERE IF THERE'S GOING TO BE A STRUCTURE AT ALL. ANYBODY ELSE? YEAH. ANOTHER THING THAT CONCERNS ME ABOUT ALL THIS IS THE FACT THAT THEY ARE FIVE MINUTES AWAY.

SO IF THERE WAS ANY POSSIBILITY OF MISUNDERSTANDING, THEY COULD HAVE CAME RIGHT DOWN HERE AND SAID, HEY, WE HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR YOU.

AND IS THIS A POSSIBILITY? I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WAS DONE.

UH, I COULD BE AWFULLY WRONG ABOUT THIS, BUT I'M PRETTY SURE WE DIDN'T GIVE THEM PERMISSION TO RAISE THAT CONCRETE THAT HIGH OFF THE OFF OF THE STREET, BUT I WON'T MAKE THAT AN ISSUE.

BUT I AM NOT AT ALL FOR FOR THE AWNING.

I HAVE A CONCERN THAT I'M WITH YOU, DAN AND RONNIE, ON THIS.

I JUST, UH, I WOULD HATE TO SEE THE OTHER BUSINESSES, UH, AROUND ON MAIN STREET.

UH, IF WE DO THIS FOR THIS.

AND WHAT HAPPENS TO BABES IF THEY WANT TO DO IT? WHAT HAPPENS TO FRESCOES IF THEY WANT TO DO IT? WHAT HAPPENS TO, UH, THE BURGER HOUSE DOWN THERE? WE'RE GOING TO TAKE UP MORE PARKING.

AND I KNOW THIS WASN'T PARKING, BUT I GET CONCERNED ABOUT SOMEBODY ELSE SAYING, OKAY, YOU OKAYED THIS.

NOW WE WANT TO GET STREET PARKING.

WE WANT TO TAKE SOME MORE PARKING AWAY ON MAIN STREET.

SO I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS, TOO.

ANYBODY ELSE. I WANT TO SAY THAT I'M VERY MUCH IN FAVOR AND APPRECIATIVE OF THE BUSINESSES THAT WE HAVE IN OLD TOWN, AND ALL THE EFFORTS THAT ARE BEING MADE TO, UM, MAKE IT A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE WANT TO SPEND TIME, MONEY AND, UM, AND DO BUSINESS.

WE ARE VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE OLD TOWN AND TO I MEAN, IT'S A GEM AND I'M VERY I WANT TO RECOGNIZE HOW MUCH EFFORT GOES INTO KEEPING THE INTEGRITY OF THAT SPACE.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A PRODUCT IF THIS TYPE OF THING IS GOING TO BE SOUGHT AFTER, I'D LIKE FOR IT TO FIT OLD TOWN AND KEEP UP THE LOOK, INTEGRITY AND FEEL OF OLD TOWN SPACE.

BUT IT IS.

IT IS A GOOD BUSINESS AND I DON'T WANT TO PICK AND CHOOSE WHO WE LOOK OR FOR APPEARANCE SAKE, SUPPORT FROM UP HERE VERSUS ANOTHER ONE.

AND JUST AS BEN HAS MENTIONED, JUST A MONTH AGO, WE HAD A BUSINESS COME FORWARD AND ASK AND SOMETHING SIMILAR WAS PRESENTED AND WE DIDN'T THINK THAT IT FIT.

AND THERE WERE OTHER QUESTIONS RAISED.

AND SO I AM TRULY IN FAVOR OF ALL THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE BEING MADE IN OLD TOWN AND ALL THE BUSINESSES THERE.

WE WANT THEM TO BE SUCCESSFUL AND TO THRIVE, BUT WE ALSO WANT TO KEEP UP.

THIS IS A TRUE TREASURE, AND THERE ARE SO MANY COMMUNITIES THROUGHOUT TEXAS THAT WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A SQUARE OR AN OLD TOWN OR SOMETHING OF THIS, AND WE WANT TO KEEP IT, KEEP IT LOOKING, KEEP UP THE INTEGRITY OF THE SPACE SO THAT IT STAYS THE TREASURE THAT IT IS.

OKAY. DO WE HAVE A SPEAKER? I'VE GOT SOMETHING ELSE TO SAY.

GO AHEAD, GO AHEAD. UM, AS FAR AS THE RIGHT OF WAY AGREEMENT, THEY HAVE AN EXISTING RIGHT OF WAY AGREEMENT.

THEY DO. WITH RESPECT TO THE APRIL 20TH 21ST JUDGMENT BY THIS COUNCIL OR THE OTHER COUNCIL.

THAT IS CORRECT. UM, THIS COUNCIL MAKES POLICY AND ORDINANCES TO GIVE TO THE STAFF SO THAT THE STAFF CAN RUN THIS SAFETY AND, UH, CAN GROW THIS CITY CORRECTLY AND SAFE.

AND PART OF THAT IS ISSUING PERMITS AND FINES.

I DON'T SEE THAT IT'S THE PURVIEW OF THIS COUNCIL TO ISSUE PERMITS NOR MAKE JUDGMENTS.

WE HAVE A MUNICIPAL COURT THAT MAKES JUDGMENTS.

SO IN MY OPINION.

I WOULD LIKE TO HONOR THE ORIGINAL RIGHT OF WAY AGREEMENT, AND I THINK IT'S STAFF'S RESPONSIBILITY TO ISSUE PERMITS.

NOW WE HAVE ARTICLE FOR OLD TOWN DESIGN STANDARDS IN OUR ORDINANCE.

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AND WHEN STAFF IS ISSUING THOSE PERMITS AND MAKING THOSE DECISIONS IN OLD TOWN, THEY NEED TO BASE THEM ON ARTICLE FOUR TO CONFORM WITH OLD TOWN STANDARDS. THERE WAS A LOT OF TIME, A LOT OF EFFORT SPENT IN DESIGNING THOSE STANDARDS, CREATING THOSE STANDARDS.

A LOT OF COMMITTEES WERE AWAY FROM THEIR FAMILY, JUST LIKE THE BOND COMMITTEE.

WE TALK ABOUT A LOT, AND I THINK WE NEED TO RESPECT THOSE STANDARDS.

SO IN MY OPINION.

I APPRECIATE THEIR BUSINESS IN THE CITY.

I APPRECIATE THEIR GROWTH NEXT DOOR, WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

BUT I THINK IT'S NOT OUR PURVIEW TO ISSUE PERMITS AND MAKE THOSE DECISIONS.

IT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE.

AND ORDINANCE POLICY AND THE OLD TOWN STANDARD DESIGNS.

SO IN MY OPINION, WE STICK WITH THE CURRENT RIGHT OF WAY AGREEMENT.

AND THE CITY STAFF MAKES THE DECISIONS ON WHAT PERMITS THEY WANT TO ISSUE AND WHAT'S WITHIN THOSE STANDARD GUIDELINES.

IF THERE'S AN ISSUE BETWEEN STAFF AND THE BUSINESS ABOUT WHAT THE DECISION IS, THEN IT CAN COME BACK TO COUNCIL.

BUT I THINK THE ORIGINAL ONSET SHOULD BE WITH STAFF BETWEEN STAFF AND THE BUSINESS.

COUNCIL MEMBER. SCOTT. I'LL SPEAK TO THAT, I THINK, UM.

THE DECISION HERE IS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT TRYING TO COME TO COUNCIL TO ASK FOR PERMISSION AS ASSOCIATE TO THE BUILDING PERMIT.

UH, THE RULING BY THE BUILDING OFFICIAL AND I WAS IN AGREEMENT WITH HIM ABOUT THIS WAS SIMPLY THAT WE DIDN'T FEEL LIKE THE EXISTING RIGHT OF WAY AGREEMENT ALLOWED FOR ANYTHING BEYOND WHAT CURRENTLY IS OR WHAT WAS WHAT WAS APPROVED IN THE RIGHT OF WAY AGREEMENT.

IT DIDN'T HAVE AN AWNING.

THEREFORE WE DIDN'T FEEL THAT WE COULD ISSUE A PERMIT FOR IT BECAUSE IT DIDN'T EXPLICITLY CALL THAT OUT.

THAT WASN'T THE RENDERINGS THAT WERE APPROVED BY THE COUNCIL.

SO THAT'S I WANT TO EXPLAIN THE JUSTIFICATION ON WHY WE TOOK THAT APPROACH.

OKAY. THE RENDERINGS THAT WERE APPROVED BY COUNCIL ORIGINALLY APPEARED TO HAVE.

I'M LOOKING AT ONE HERE.

IT APPEARS TO HAVE A WOOD DECK AND A WOOD FENCE THAT MATCHED THE FACADE OF THE BUILDING, WHICH WOULD BE VERY NICE.

WHAT IT ENDED UP BEING WAS A CONCRETE POURED, MORE OF A PERMANENT STRUCTURE WITH A METAL FENCE, WHICH I'M OKAY WITH THE METAL FENCE.

IT SERVES ITS PURPOSE, BUT WITH AN AWNING.

SO THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT WAS NOT MET.

UNDERSTOOD. SO I'M CONCERNED THAT IF WE PUT OUT A NEW RIGHT OF WAY AGREEMENT TO CONFORM TO WHAT HAS BEEN DONE, NOT WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE, THEN WE'RE NOT CONFORMING TO OUR RULES OR OUR GUIDELINES.

WE'RE CONFORMING TO OTHER RULES AND GUIDELINES NOT SET BY THIS COUNCIL.

SO I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE AWNING AS LONG AS IT MATCHES SOMETHING IN OLD TOWN STANDARDS.

SO TO THAT POINT, MR. COUNCIL MEMBER, UM, THE ARTICLE 4-3 OF THE OLD TOWN DESIGN STANDARDS REQUIRES A SUBSTANTIAL BUILDING RENOVATION TO TAKE PLACE BEFORE THOSE STANDARDS COME INTO PLAY.

SO IF A BUILDING IS APPRAISED AT $100,000, IT WOULD REQUIRE $50,000 WORTH OF RENOVATIONS BEFORE THOSE STANDARDS COME INTO PLAY FOR AN EXISTING BUILDING.

SO I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT FOR THE COUNCIL.

ARE WE ENTITLED TO USE THE OLD TOWN PLAN THAT WAS PUT TOGETHER FIVE YEARS AGO? SO THE STANDARDS THAT ARE IN PLACE WOULD BE THE OLD TOWN DESIGN REVIEW MANUAL, THE STANDARDS THAT ARE ADOPTED IN APPENDIX C, I BELIEVE.

CORRECT. OKAY.

AS LONG AS THEY CONFORM WITH THOSE.

ARE WE READY FOR A VOTE? NO, SIR. I HAVE TWO SPEAKER CARDS.

THE SPEAKERS HAVE BEEN WAITING.

THE FIRST SPEAKER CARD I HAVE IS.

DEREK. DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK? OKAY. OKAY, SO MY NEXT SPEAKER CARD IS BILL JANISCH.

BILL JAMES 117 NORTHEAST.

CLINTON. UH, LARRY, I AGREE WITH A LOT OF WHAT YOU JUST SAID.

UH, I REMEMBER THIS BACK WHEN IT WAS, UH OH, BACK IN THE LATE 60S, EARLY 70S, WHEN THAT TREE WAS THERE.

HE USED TO KIND OF HAVE TO DODGE IT WHEN I RODE IN THE BACK OF A PICKUP AS WE PULLED INTO LUMBERYARD.

UH, DEREK SPENT A LOT OF GOOD HERE.

I MEAN, IF YOU LOOK BACK ON OLD TOWN, I REMEMBER IT ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE FIRST, YOU KNOW, MALT SHOP AND EVERYTHING.

THERE WAS NOTHING HERE, REALLY, LIKE 13, 14, 15 YEARS AGO.

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DEREK AND, UH, A COUPLE INVESTORS, THEY THEY DID GOOD.

I MEAN, THEY GOT GOOD FOOD, GOOD PATRONS.

UH, THE BREWERY, I MEAN, IT'S THRIVED.

THOSE TWO INSTITUTIONS WERE TWO OF THE MAIN ONES THAT THEY HUNG AROUND.

THEY HAVEN'T GONE ANYWHERE.

UH, OTHER OTHER BUSINESSES.

THEY'VE COME AND GONE BECAUSE PEOPLE QUIT INVESTING IN OLD TOWN.

THE STRUCTURE ITSELF BEING CEMENT.

I UNDERSTAND THE WOOD.

THE WOOD WOULD LOOK NICE. YOU CAN STILL PAINT OR STAIN OR DO AN EPOXY BRUSH TYPE FINISH TO MAKE IT LOOK WOOD.

I THINK THE CEMENT, YOU KNOW, IT'S HERE NOR THERE.

THE STRUCTURE.

UH, WITH THE METAL TOP, IT COULD BE COVERED IN A VINYL OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

ALMOST LIKE A CANOPY. IT COULD BE REPITCHED.

THE STRENGTH WOULD BE IN THE METAL, BUT YOU COULD PITCH SOMETHING ELSE OVER IT.

UH, I DO SUPPORT THESE BUSINESSES IN OLD TOWN.

I MEAN, YOU CAN GO BACK ALL ALL THE WAY 40, 50 YEARS.

I MEAN, THEY'VE COME AND GONE.

DEREK'S BEEN HERE.

ME 13, 14 YEARS NOW.

UH, THE LUMBER YARD THAT HE'S DOING NEXT DOOR.

I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE PRETTY INCREDIBLE PLACE.

I THINK IT'S GOING TO BRING IN A LOT OF PEOPLE, AND THAT'S WHAT'S ALL ABOUT.

IT'S TAKING CARE OF FAMILY, TAKING CARE OF THE ONES THAT HAVE BEEN HERE, THE ONES THAT HAVE INVESTED.

WE DON'T OWE THEM ANYTHING THEY'RE DOING FOR YOU GUYS, AND THEY'RE MAKING YOUR GUYS JOBS EASIER ON SOME OF THE STUFF.

I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT, UH, THE BREWERY, I WAS HERE, I SPOKE IN SUPPORT OF IT.

NOT BECAUSE I OWED PHILIP ANY FAVORS OR ANYTHING.

I AGREE HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN ALLOWED TO DO SOMETHING.

I'D LIKE YOU GUYS TO RECONSIDER WHEN IT COMES BACK.

I MEAN, IF HE COMES BACK, I'M GOING TO SPEAK ON IT AGAIN.

HE COULD TAKE IT TWO AND 3/8 INCH STAINLESS STEEL PIPE, PUSH IT DOWN THROUGH THE ASPHALT, MAYBE A FOOT, AND PUT WELDING PLATES ON IT.

AND HE COULD HAVE HIS FENCE.

I MEAN, HE'S GOT HIS RIGHT OF WAY AGREEMENT.

AND I UNDERSTAND THIS IS YOUR GUYS CHOICES, BUT I AGREE WITH LARRY COUNCIL DOESN'T NEED TO BE DOING PERMITS.

I KNOW THAT STAFF IS INVOLVED RIGHT NOW IN, UH, REWORKING THE LANGUAGE WITH THE ZONING AND ORDINANCES.

SO HOPEFULLY THIS STUFF WILL GET HANDLED AND ALL THAT.

I KNOW YOU CAN'T KNOCK IT ALL OUT IN ONE WHACK, BUT YOU GUYS DO NEED TO TAKE A PRETTY GOOD BITE OUT OF A STUFF LIKE THIS AND GET IT DONE IN THE LANGUAGE.

YOU KNOW? I HOPE YOU GUYS APPROVE THIS.

THANKS. ANYBODY ELSE? NO, SIR. I HAVE NO OTHER SPEAKER CARDS.

I'M READY FOR A VOTE ON THIS.

I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO DENY APPROVAL.

I HAVE A MOTION BY DAN AND A SECOND BY RONNIE.

PLEASE VOTE. SORRY.

UH, PASSES 5 TO 2.

THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM EIGHT, A, UM, RECEIVE A REPORT, HOLD A DISCUSSION AND PROVIDE STAFF DIRECTION REGARDING REALIGNMENT OF THE GENERAL FUND, FIVE YEAR

[8.A. Receive a report, hold a discussion, and provide staff direction regarding realignment of the General Fund five-year Capital Improvement Program (CIP) and supporting debt capacity. (Staff Presenter: Harlan Jefferson, Deputy City Manager)]

CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN PROGRAM AND SUPPORTING DEBT CAPACITY.

THE STAFF PRESENTED THIS EVENING IS HARLAN JEFFERSON, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER.

REALIGNMENT OF. THANK YOU.

PLAN TO DISCUSS THE REALIGNMENT OF GENERAL FUND FIVE YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM AND ALL THE THINGS WE DID TO ACCOMMODATE THOSE CHANGES.

SPECIFICALLY, I'LL WALK THROUGH THE PREVIOUS DIRECTIONS PROVIDED BY THE COUNCIL.

THEN I'LL TALK ABOUT THE DEBT CAPACITY ASSUMPTIONS WE PREVIOUSLY USED AND OPPORTUNITY TO OPPORTUNITIES TO EXPAND THE DEBT CAPACITY.

AND THEN WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE NEXT STEPS.

ON NOVEMBER 13TH, YOU DIRECTED US TO INCREASE THE BUDGET FOR THE POLICE EXPANSION PROJECT UP TO $42 MILLION, INCREASING THE BUDGET APPROXIMATELY $5.5 MILLION.

THAT NIGHT, YOU ALSO ASKED US TO ADD TO THE CIP A GAS LINE RELOCATION.

THE VALUE THERE WAS $1.2 MILLION.

AND TO ACCOMMODATE THE POLICE EXPANSION PROJECT, WE MOVED THE WICKER HILL GREEN RIDGE PROJECT OUT OF THE FIVE YEAR HORIZON OF THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT

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PROGRAM, AND WE HAVE HULIN INTERSECTION ROADWAY EXPANSION LISTED BECAUSE IT PLAYED A ROLE IN REALLOCATING THE FUNDING.

THIS IS THE FIVE YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM FOR THE GENERAL FUND.

THE FIRST SECTION, THE UPPER SECTION IS GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS.

IT REMAINS UNCHANGED FROM THE COUNCIL ADOPTION BACK IN SEPTEMBER.

THE ADDITIONAL PROJECTS IS WHERE WE MADE FOUR CHANGES.

AND THIS IS PRIMARILY FUNDED BY CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.

SO YOU CAN SEE THE GREEN ITEMS WHERE THE ADDITIONS AND THE RED ITEMS WERE THE ONES THAT WE STRUCK.

THE POLICE EXPANSION PROGRAM, UH, WE ADDED THE $5.5 MILLION ON THE RIGHT SIDE.

YOU CAN KIND OF SEE HOW WE GOT TO THE $42 MILLION WE PREVIOUSLY HAD, $3.6 MILLION FOR DESIGN AND OTHER PROFESSIONAL SERVICES.

SO IT'S NOT LISTED ON THE CURRENT PLAN.

THE CURRENT GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND COMMITMENT IS APPROXIMATELY $32.8 MILLION.

AND THEN THE PROPOSED CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAMS FOR FOR CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATIONS AT $5.5 MILLION IS LISTED, AND ALL OF THAT TOTALS TO $42 MILLION.

THE OTHER ADDITION IS THE GAS LINE THAT I PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED.

IT'S IN GREEN.

YOU CAN SEE THE WICKER HILL AND GREEN RIDGE ROADWAY PROJECT STRICKEN FROM THIS LIST.

AND THEN THIS SLIDE DEMONSTRATES THE ACTUAL MOVEMENT OF THE FUNDING BETWEEN THE THOSE VARIOUS PROJECTS.

SO TO FUND THE ADDITIONAL $5.5 MILLION, WE INCREASED THE CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION CAPACITY.

WHEN WE REMOVED WICKER HILL AND GREEN RIDGE, IT CREATED $3.1 MILLION IN GENERAL OBLIGATION CAPACITY.

WE ALSO HAD IMPACT FEE FUNDS IN THAT PROJECT.

WE MOVED THAT TO AN INTERSECTION ROADWAY EXPANSION, AND WE HAD CASH FUNDING OF 879,000.

THAT WAS ALSO MOVED TO A HEWLAND INTERSECTION ROADWAY EXPANSION.

SO, SO WITH THE REMOVAL OF WICKER HILL, GREEN RIDGE, WE CREATED A SAVINGS OF 4.9 MILLION.

AND IF YOU ADD UP THE IMPACT FEES IN CASH, THAT TOTALS 2.4 MILLION.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE TRANSFERRED IN TERMS OF CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION CAPACITY TO THE POLICE EXPANSION PROJECT.

SO THAT'S THE LONG WAY OF SAYING IT.

SO I KIND OF TOLD YOU HOW TO HOW TO BUILD A CLOCK.

NOW TO TELL YOU WHAT TIME IT IS.

IF THE SHORT WAY IS, JUST LOOK AT THE ADDITION OF 5.5 MILLION ON THE FAR RIGHT HAND SIDE.

WE INCREASE THE IMPACT FEES, UH, BY 593,000.

AND THAT'S HOW WE TOTALED UP TO THE 5.5 MILLION.

AND IT'S COMPLICATED TO A CERTAIN DEGREE, BECAUSE IMPACT FEE FUNDINGS COULDN'T BE DIRECTLY TRANSFERRED TO SOMETHING THAT WASN'T A ROADWAY PROJECT OR WASN'T IN THE ZONE FOR THE ROADWAY PROJECT.

NOW I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE DEBT CAPACITY.

WE'VE HAD QUITE A BIT OF DISCUSSIONS ABOUT IT.

SPECIFICALLY, WE TALKED ABOUT INCREASING THE THE ASSUMPTIONS FOR INCREASED ASSESSED VALUATION BY THREE POINT OR 3%.

WE ALSO TALK ABOUT HOW TO EXPAND THAT DEBT CAPACITY BY USING ROADWAY IMPACT FEES.

WE DISCUSS REFINANCING OPPORTUNITIES THAT COULD AGAIN INCREASE THAT CAPACITY.

AND THEN THE DEBT SERVICE FUND REQUIREMENTS.

THAT COULD GIVE US ADDITIONAL OPTIONS WITH REGARD TO THE 3% INCREASE IN ASSESSED VALUATION LEADS TO GROWTH.

WE WANT TO DEMONSTRATE HOW CONSERVATIVE THE ESTIMATE IS.

IF YOU LOOK BACK OVER THE LAST TEN YEARS OF INCREASED, UH, INCREASED ASSESSED VALUATION VALUE, AND YOU CAN SEE THE COLUMN ON THE RIGHT SIDE SHOWS THE NUMBERS OF PERCENTAGE INCREASE EACH YEAR.

IF YOU TOOK AN AVERAGE OF THOSE NUMBERS, YOU WOULD COME OUT TO 8.69%.

IF YOU REMOVE THE OUTLIERS OF ALMOST 12% ON THE HIGH END AND 5.25% ON THE LOW END, YOU STILL COME OUT TO AN AVERAGE OF 8.71%. SO THAT'S AMAZINGLY CONSISTENT SINCE WE'RE PROPOSING TO ISSUE 20 YEAR BONDS.

AND THAT'S OUR PRACTICE, WE WANT TO LOOK BACK EVEN FARTHER TO SEE WHAT THE AVERAGE INCREASE IN ASSESSED VALUE HAS BEEN FOR THE FOR THE CITY.

AND IT CAME OUT TO BE 8.32%.

AND AGAIN, IF YOU REMOVE THE OUTLIERS OVER 13% AND AND MINUS UH FOUR, UH, 4/10 OF A PERCENT, YOU STILL COME BACK TO AN AVERAGE AFTER THE REMOVAL OF THOSE OUTLIERS OF 8.58%.

SO THE 3% PROJECTION THAT WE'RE USING IS, UH, REALLY A CONSERVATIVE NUMBER.

AND WE FEEL GOOD ABOUT THAT NUMBER.

NEXT, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE DEBT CAPACITY SO THAT 3% IF YOU WITH USING THE AVERAGE INCREASE OF 3% OVER THE 20 YEAR PERIOD, IT

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PRODUCES 8.9%, EXCUSE ME, $8.9 MILLION.

OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS OF ADDITIONAL CAPACITY, WE'VE ALREADY USED 1.2 MILLION OF THAT FOR THE GAS LINE RELOCATION AT THE POLICE EXPANSION PROJECT.

SO THAT LEADS US TO A BALANCE OF $7.7 MILLION IN DEBT CAPACITY IN HARLAN.

JUST THAT'S OVER THE NEXT.

THAT'S NOT 7.7 PER YEAR.

THAT'S 7.7 FOR THE ENTIRE FIVE YEARS.

YES. THAT'S CORRECT.

YEAH. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER RUSSELL, TO THAT POINT TO THAT IS BASED ON OUR ASSUMED FIVE YEAR CIP AND ASSUMED FIVE YEAR GROWTH PROJECTION.

I KNOW SOMETIMES THERE IN OUR CONVERSATIONS THAT IT'S HARD TO GET LOST OR IT'S EASY TO GET LOST IN THE NUMBERS, BUT WE CAN ASSUME THAT IT WAS SEVEN AND A HALF A YEAR AND YOU'RE THINKING, WELL, YOU GOT PRETTY GOOD CAPACITY.

BUT NO, IF YOU IF ALL THE ASSUMPTIONS ARE CORRECT FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, THAT'S HOW MUCH EXTRA WE HAVE.

AND IF WE WERE TO USE IT ALL AT ONE TIME AND SOMETHING CATASTROPHIC WERE TO HAPPEN, WE WOULD HAVE TO PROBABLY RAISE TAXES, I GUESS WOULD BE THE ONLY WAY TO.

SO YOU WOULD HIT THE EITHER MODIFY YOUR CIP OR CHANGE SAME SOME OF THE OTHER ASSUMPTIONS.

AND I DO THINK, YOU KNOW, JUST BECAUSE THE NUMBERS CAN CHANGE.

AND I WANT TO BE CLEAR IS THAT, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S INFLATIONARY COSTS THAT INCREASE, THIS WILL OBVIOUSLY THE CAPACITY IS GOING TO CHANGE.

BUT IF WE HAVE GROWTH GREATER THAN 3%, IT COULD BE GREATER.

SO IF WE COME BACK AND WE HAVE SIGNIFICANTLY MORE GROWTH.

AND HARLAN SPEAKING TO THIS AGAIN THE NUMBER COULD BE GREATER THAN 7.7.

SO YEAH. AND YOU'RE SHOWING US THAT THE GROWTH HAS MORE THAN WHAT WE'RE ANTICIPATING.

SO GOOD. RIGHT. ALL RIGHT.

THANKS. YEAH.

YOU'RE WELCOME. NOW ANOTHER WAY TO INCREASE OUR DEBT CAPACITY IS UTILIZING THE IMPACT FEES FOR ROADWAY PROJECTS THAT ERIC PREVIOUSLY OR MR. OSCARSSON PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED.

SO THE CURRENT BALANCE IN ZONE A IS $1.1 MILLION.

IN ZONE B, THAT'S A LITTLE LESS THAN 500,000 IN ZONE C, $244,000.

SO I POINT THAT OUT BECAUSE AS WE ARE PROGRESS AND WE RECEIVE ADDITIONAL FUNDING, WE APPLY THOSE TO THE PROJECTS IN THOSE ZONES, AND THAT WILL FREE UP SOME MORE CAPACITY IS THE WAY THAT IT WORKS.

SO YOU SEE THIS NUMBER CHANGE OVER TIME AS WE CONTINUE TO BUILD OUT.

AND YET ANOTHER WAY OF INCREASING OUR DEBT CAPACITY IS REFUNDING EXISTING DEBT THAT CAN LESSEN OUR DEBT SERVICE COSTS OF CURRENT BONDS IN YOUR POLICY CURRENTLY, AND THIS IS A COMMON PRACTICE AMONG MUNICIPALITIES, YOU WILL NOT CONSIDER ANY TYPE OF REFUNDING OPPORTUNITIES UNTIL YOU CAN RECEIVE A PRESENT VALUE SAVINGS OF AT LEAST 3.5%.

SO THAT'S THE THAT'S THE MARK THAT SAYS IT'S WORTHWHILE PURSUING.

SO WE'VE BEEN EYEING OPPORTUNITIES TO REFUND SOME EXISTING DEBT.

THE WAY THAT LAW CURRENTLY WORKS, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A TAX, UH, TAX EXEMPT INSTRUMENT DEBT INSTRUMENTS.

YOU CAN'T REFUND THEM UNTIL YOU'VE ACTUALLY BEEN PAYING DEBT SERVICE FOR AT LEAST TEN YEARS.

SO WE WE HAVE A 2024 BONDING OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE CAN CONSIDER.

EXCUSE ME, 2014 BONDING OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE CAN CONSIDER IN 2024.

AND THAT'S A GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND AS WELL AS A CERTIFICATE OF OBLIGATION.

THEY TOTAL UP IN PRINCIPAL OUTSTANDING PRINCIPAL OF OVER $14 MILLION.

AND WE'VE EVALUATED THOSE OPPORTUNITIES GOING ALL THE WAY BACK TO SEPTEMBER.

SO UM.

SO IN SEPTEMBER THE 6TH, WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE REFUND AND OPPORTUNITIES, IF WE HAD REFUNDED THE BONDS AT THAT TIME, WE COULD HAVE SAVED ALMOST $900,000 AND THE PRESENT VALUE SAVINGS WOULD HAVE BEEN 5.64%.

SO WELL ABOVE THE THRESHOLD YOU HAVE.

BUT THE MARKET BEING WHAT IT IS, IF YOU WOULD HAVE REFUNDED THE BONDS ON OCTOBER 17TH, WE WOULD HAVE ONLY SAVED 323,000 AND BEEN LESS THAN 2% PRESENT VALUE SAVINGS.

BUT BY BUT THE MARKET BEGAN TO RALLY.

SO BY NOVEMBER 30TH, HAD WE REFUNDED BONDS, WE WOULD HAVE SAVED 600.

EXCUSE ME, 569,000.

AND RIGHT AT OUR OUR OUR THRESHOLD OF 3.5%.

AND IT'S NOT IN THE PRESENTATION.

BUT OUT OF CURIOSITY, I DID LOOK TO SEE WHAT THE REFUNDING OPPORTUNITY WOULD LOOK LIKE TODAY.

SO WE WOULD HAVE SAVED AGAIN OVER $800,000, AND IT WOULD HAVE BEEN AT 5.34%.

SO THE FEDERAL RESERVE IS MEETING THIS WEEK.

UH, I THINK THE MARKET IS BUILT IN AN ASSUMPTION THAT NOT ONLY WILL THEY STOP RAISING RATES, BUT IN 2024 THEY'LL START CUTTING RATES.

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SO THE YIELD CURVE IS INVERTED NOW.

SO WE HAVE A BETTER OPPORTUNITY IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS TO AT LEAST KIND OF FORECAST WHERE THINGS ARE GO AND THE MARKET'S GOING TO START ADJUSTING TO THAT.

SO AT THIS POINT, IF WE CONSIDER REFUNDING IN 2024, WE THINK, YOU KNOW, THE SAVINGS COULD BE ANYWHERE FROM 600,000 TO PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, 900,000 RANGE.

AND IF WE'RE LUCKY TO GET BETTER AND A LOT OF IT DEPENDS ON TIMING.

HARLAN, HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE IF WE DECIDE, OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO DO A DEBT ISSUANCE AND THEN TO THE TIME THAT THE BONDS GET ISSUED, LIKE HOW MANY MONTHS DOES IT USUALLY TAKE? BECAUSE LIKE YOU SAID, TIMING BECAUSE WE'RE THE BOND MARKET'S RALLYING RIGHT NOW.

AND THAT'S WHY THE YEAH THE RATES ARE COMING BACK DOWN.

BUT YEAH WE WE COULD EASILY DO THAT.

UH PROBABLY YOU KNOW WITHIN A SIX 6 TO 8 WEEK PERIOD.

OKAY. UM, THIS OPPORTUNITY REALLY, UH, CAN START AS EARLY AS, AS THIS MONTH, SO YOU CAN DO IT 90 DAYS PRIOR TO, UH, TO THE BOND DATE.

SO. SO WE ARE WITHIN RANGE, UH, A LOT OF TIMES TO MAXIMIZE YOUR SAVINGS, THE, THE DEBT ISSUANCE COST SAVINGS, YOU WOULD COMBINE THE REFUNDING WITH THE ISSUANCE OF NEW DEBT.

SO IDEALLY WE'D LIKE TO PACKAGE IT AS ONE, ONE ONE PACKAGE.

NOW. NOW ONE OF THE LIMITING FACTORS IN ISSUING DEBT IS THAT YOU LIKE TO HAVE THE OFFICIAL STATEMENT FROM THE LAST FISCAL YEAR.

SO A LOT OF TIMES YOU DON'T SEE CITIES ISSUING DEBT UNTIL PROBABLY AFTER MARCH.

IF IT'S ADVANTAGEOUS TO ACCELERATE THAT, WE CAN AND WE GIVE THEM PROJECTIONS.

UM, BUT WE CAN CONTINUE TO TALK TO OUR FINANCIAL ADVISOR ABOUT THE TIMING AND SO FORTH.

SO UNLESS THE MARKET REALLY SHOWS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY, WE WOULD COMBINE IT FOR SAVINGS WITH DEBT ISSUANCE THIS SUMMER.

BUT IF IT REALLY RALLIES AND IT LOOKS LIKE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY, AND WE'LL COME BACK TO THE COUNCIL AND DISCUSS ACCELERATING THE REFUNDING OPPORTUNITY.

AND THEN, UH, YET ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO EXPAND YOUR DEBT SERVICE REALLY LIES IN THE FUND BALANCE OF THE DEBT SERVICE FUND. UH, SO LET ME MENTION THAT TO A PAY PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST ON BONDS OR ANY OUTSTANDING LONG TERME DEBT, YOU WOULD CITIES GENERALLY WOULD ESTABLISH A DEBT SERVICE FUND, AND IT RECEIVES MONEY PRIMARILY TAX REVENUE, INTEREST INCOME, SOME TRANSFER FUNDS FROM OTHER FUNDS.

AND THEN IT ONLY PAYS PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST BY LAW AND BOND COVENANT.

YOU CAN ONLY USE THE MONEY TO PAY PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST ON LONG TERME DEBT.

YOU CAN'T TRANSFER IT OUT TO ANOTHER FUND AND YOU CAN'T USE IT FOR UH MO OPERATIONS.

YOU CAN'T USE IT FOR STAFFING MAINTENANCE, ONLY FOR THAT SPECIFIC PURPOSE.

SO WITH THAT IN MIND, TO TRY TO ACCESS YOUR DEBT SERVICE FUND FUND BALANCE, YOU HAVE TO BE AWARE OF A COUPLE OF LIMITATIONS.

ONE OF THEM LIES IN THE TEXAS CONSTITUTION, AND THE OTHER ONE IS IN YOUR FINANCIAL POLICY.

THE TEXAS CONSTITUTION AND YOUR BOND ORDINANCE HAVE SIMILAR WORDING, SAYING THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE A MINIMUM 2% FUND BALANCE.

UH, THAT'S REQUIRED NOW, THAT'S GENERALLY INTERPRETED BY BOND COUNSEL AND FINANCIAL ADVISORS TO MEAN THE AMOUNT OF YOUR DEBT SERVICE OR PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST EACH YEAR HAS TO BE A MINIMUM, AT LEAST 2%.

UH, THEN THE OTHER LIMITATION IS IN YOUR FINANCIAL POLICY, WHICH READS THAT GENERAL OBLIGATION DEBT SERVICE FUNDS WOULD NOT HAVE RESERVES WHICH, UH, WHICH YOU COULD READ THAT TO MEAN IT SHOULD BE ZERO, OR I THINK IT BASICALLY GIVES YOU THE MAXIMUM FLEXIBILITY TO BE TO HAVE A NUMBER AT ZERO ALL THE WAY UP TO WHATEVER THE COUNCIL ELECTS IT TO BE. SO ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE SLIDE JUST KIND OF SHOWS THE THE FUNDS THAT WE HAVE DEBT ISSUED FOR THE TIF, TWO GOLF COURSE FOR A-4B WATER AND SEWER AND GENERAL FUND. WE HAVE THE OUTSTANDING PRINCIPAL BY FUND AND A TOTAL OF $169 MILLION.

SO IF YOU WERE READING THAT LITERALLY AT 2% MINIMUM, YOU NEED $3.3 MILLION.

UH, HOWEVER, IF YOU READ IT WITH THE INTERPRETATION THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE A DEBT SERVICE OF AT LEAST 2%, THEN YOU SEE THE THE 2024 DEBT SERVICE COLUMN, AND YOU CAN SEE, UH, BY CATEGORY THERE OF FUND, YOU HAVE ANYWHERE FROM FOUR TO, TO SEVEN TIMES AS MUCH AS YOU WOULD NEED, YOU KNOW, BEYOND THE 2%.

AND THEN BY, BY THE TOTAL, THE 3.3 COMPARED TO THE 21 MILLION, YOU HAVE SIX TIMES THE AMOUNT THAT YOU WOULD ACTUALLY NEED.

SO YOU'RE ISSUING ENOUGH DEBT SERVICE EVERY YEAR TO SATISFY THAT 2% MINIMUM REQUIREMENT.

UH, IS THE POINT.

SO THIS SLIDE DEMONSTRATES HOW MUCH FUND BALANCE YOU ACTUALLY HAVE IN THE GENERAL DEBT SERVICE FUND.

SO FOR FISCAL YEAR 22, YOU ENDED THE YEAR WITH $2.6 MILLION.

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UH, THE ORIGINAL BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 23, YOU BUDGETED $8 MILLION TO END THAT YEAR, BUT YOU WERE FORECASTING YOU'RE GOING TO ALMOST BE AT $4.3 MILLION. AND THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR 2024, WE'RE FORECASTING YOU WOULD WE WOULD END THE YEAR AT $6.3 MILLION.

SO YOU HAVE A FUND BALANCE, UH, AVAILABLE TO YOU.

AND THEN I WANT TO SHOW YOU THE DEBT SERVICE FUND BALANCE HISTORY GOING BACK TO 2006.

AND IF YOU WERE TO LOOK AT THE NUMBERS PRIOR TO 2020, THE LOWEST YOU WERE AT IS $369,000, AND THE HIGHEST IS $1,002,000.

SO, UH, I THINK A GOOD RANGE OF SOMEWHERE AROUND HALF $1 MILLION WOULD BE APPROPRIATE.

AND I'VE JUST SIMPLY PICKED THAT NUMBER, BECAUSE IF YOU DEDUCT THE THAT FROM THE THE $6.3 MILLION PROJECTED FUND BALANCE FOR THIS YEAR, THAT WOULD FREE UP $5.8 MILLION FOR A DEBT IN TERMS OF DEBT CAPACITY, INCREASING YOUR DEBT CAPACITY.

NOW PREVIOUSLY SAID YOU COULD ONLY USE THE FUND BALANCE AND THE DEBT SERVICE FUND TO PAY PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST ON OUTSTANDING BONDS.

SO THIS SLIDE LIST THE OPTIONS YOU COULD PURSUE TO ACCESS THOSE FUNDS OR FREE THEM UP.

SO SINCE YOU CAN'T TRANSFER THEM OUT, WHAT YOU COULD DO IS REDEEM OR CALL BONDS THROUGH CASH.

DEFEASANCE. AND WHAT THIS IS, IS BASICALLY IT'S IT'S LIKE REFINANCING YOUR HOUSE OR REFINANCING THE BONDS.

SO IF YOU REFINANCE FINANCING A HOUSE OF $200,000, BUT YOU WOULD INFUSE, UH, $500,000 INTO THAT.

SO NOW IT'S A CASH DEFEASANCE IT'S THE DIFFERENCE.

SO YOU REFINANCING IT, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY PAY DOWN A LARGE PORTION OF THE PRINCIPAL IF, UH, IN THE SCENARIO WE'RE LOOKING AT, YOU WOULD PAY DOWN, UH, $5.8 MILLION IN, IN DEBT WHEN YOU REFINANCE THAT DEBT.

SO NOW YOU'VE FREED UP THAT CAPACITY FOR OTHER PROJECTS AS THE WAY IT WOULD WORK.

THE SECOND OPTION IS YOU COULD ISSUE NEW DEBT, UH, THIS UPCOMING YEAR AND THE FIRST YEAR, YOU COULD FRONT IN A PRINCIPAL PAYMENT OF $5.8 MILLION.

AND THAT WOULD STILL HAVE THE EFFECT OF FREEING UP, UH, $5.8 MILLION.

AND THE THIRD OPTION WOULD BE YOU COULD HAVE A TOTAL TOTAL STANDALONE PROJECT OF $5.8 MILLION AND PAY IT OFF WITHIN THE FIRST YEAR AND BE DONE WITH THE PROJECT. AND AGAIN, THAT WOULD FREE UP THE $5.8 MILLION.

UM, WE WOULD THINK, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD STILL KIND OF LOOK AT THESE OPTIONS AND EVALUATE ALL OF THEM GOING INTO 2024 AND COME BACK WITH A RECOMMENDATION BASED ON WHICH ONE WAS MOST ECONOMICALLY FEASIBLE.

UH, THE FIRST TWO OPTIONS WOULD WOULD REALLY LEAN TOWARD COMBINING NEW DEBT PLUS REFINANCING OF THE CASH DEFEASANCE.

SO THEY'RE THEY'RE MORE EFFICIENT BECAUSE YOU JUST INCUR THE DEBT ISSUANCE COST ONE TIME.

THE THIRD OPTION, YOU WOULD INCUR IT STANDALONE FOR THAT PROJECT AND ANY OTHER DEBT ISSUANCE YOU HAVE NEXT YEAR.

HARLAN, WOULD YOU MATCH THE MATURITIES LIKE LIKE ON OPTION TWO WITH THE FRONT LOAD, THE PAYMENT, WOULD YOU YOU KNOW, WHEN THE BONDS GET ISSUED, THEY DO RANDOM LIKE 300,000 FOR THE FIRST LIKE FOR A 24 BOND.

AND YOU KNOW, IT'S WHATEVER IT'S A TEN YEAR BOND.

AND SO IT'S 350 FOR 24 WILL MATURE AND 500,000 WILL MATURE DEPENDING ON THE MARKET.

AND SO DOES THAT MEAN THE FIRST YEAR WE WOULD ISSUE $5 MILLION WITH A 24 OR 25 MATURITY, OR DOES IT PAY OFF SEVERAL MATURITIES? YEAH. SINCE, UM, WE WERE LOOKING AT REFI, WE'RE LOOKING AT REFINANCING OVER $14 MILLION IN BONDS.

SO, UH, WHAT WE WOULD DO IS LET ME FIRST SAY THE TIME FRAME, THOSE, UH, WE HAVE AN OUTSTANDING SCHEDULE NOW OF TEN YEARS.

RIGHT. AND WE WOULD KEEP THAT SCHEDULE OF TEN YEARS.

THE FIRST YEAR, THOUGH, WE WOULD PAY OFF $5.8 MILLION TO IMMEDIATELY DROP, YOU KNOW, OUTSTANDING PRINCIPAL AND FREE UP THE FIVE, 5.8 MILLION IN DEBT CAPACITY FOR ADDITIONAL PROJECTS.

AFTER THAT, THEN WE WOULD JUST HAVE REGULAR SCHEDULES EQUAL TO THE SAME NUMBER.

IF IT'S HALF 1 MILLION OR 350 FOR EACH YEAR, EACH YEAR PAYING DOWN THE PRINCIPAL IN EQUAL AMOUNTS.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

UH, OUR FINANCIAL RATINGS, DOES THIS AFFECT ANY OF OUR FINANCIAL RATINGS WHEN WE GET IN, WHEN WE REDUCE OUR FUND? UH, I DON'T I CAN'T SAY, UH.

IT STAND ALONE THAT IF YOU DID, A REFINANCING OR FREED UP CAPACITY, WOULD, UH, STAND ALONE EFFECTIVE RATING NOW ON A MORE GLOBAL SCALE IF IF YOU IF THE CITY DEMONSTRATED A STRONG CONTROL AND MANAGEMENT OF ITS FINANCIAL AFFAIRS THAT ARE INCREASE YOUR RATING.

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SO SO I THINK THEY WOULD LOOK AT THIS STEP ALONG WITH OTHER THINGS THAT WE WERE DOING, AND THEY WOULD JUDGE THAT TO SAY, UH, THEY'RE REALLY HAVE A GOOD CONTROL OVER REPAYING THEIR DEBT AND THEY COULD BE RELIED UPON TO DO THAT.

AND THAT'S BASICALLY INCREASE YOUR RATING.

YOU HAVE TO SEND A MESSAGE AND DEMONSTRATE THAT YOU HAVE STRONG FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT.

UH, IT'S KIND OF AMAZING.

WITH THE RATING AGENCIES, YOU COULD, UH, YOU COULD FORECAST A REPAYMENT OF BONDS OR, OR, OR YOUR BUDGET AND YOU COULD EXCEED YOUR BUDGET AND YOU CAN GO UNDER BUDGET AND THEY WOULD DING YOU THE SAME FOR GOING OVER OR AS GOING UNDER, BECAUSE IT DOESN'T DEMONSTRATE STRONG FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT. SO OUR STRATEGY FOR INCREASING BOND RATING IS REALLY TAKE A HOLISTIC LOOK.

AND THIS WOULD BE ONE OF THE TOOLS THAT I THINK WOULD WOULD HELP US.

HARLAN, CAN YOU SPEAK TO ANY NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCE OF REDUCING THE FUND BALANCE? I THINK THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN THE HEART OF THE MAYOR'S QUESTION.

YEAH. WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

APPRECIATE THAT.

UH, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCES TO TO REPAYING YOUR DEBT EARLY.

NO ONE'S GOING TO LOOK AT US AND SAID, THAT'S BAD PRACTICE.

UM, I WILL SAY THE RATING AGENCIES LIKE, UH, UH, HIGHER FUND BALANCE, THE HIGHER YOU HAVE FUND BALANCE, THE THEY ENJOY THOSE.

THEY DON'T NECESSARILY TELL YOU WHERE IT SHOULD BE, BUT, UH, WHAT THEIR REAL PRACTICE IS JUDGING HOW CONSISTENTLY YOU HIT YOUR FUND BALANCE GOAL.

SO WHATEVER YOU SAID IN YOUR BUDGET, IF IT IS IT MENTIONED EARLIER, IF YOU EXCEED IT BY EXCESSIVE AMOUNTS OR GO UNDER BY EXCESSIVE AMOUNT, THEY'RE DOING YOU THE SAME BECAUSE THEY DON'T SEE THAT AS STRONG FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT.

BUT PAYING DOWN THE DEBT EARLY, I DON'T THINK WOULD HURT YOU, PARTICULARLY IN THE DEBT SERVICE FUND DROPPING THAT NUMBER, AS LONG AS, UH, I THINK THE BEST WAY TO DO IT MAKE SURE YOU'RE AVOIDING A NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCES, UH, KIND OF COMES UP IN THE IN THE NEXT SLIDE, I BELIEVE.

AND THAT IS YOU ADJUST YOUR FINANCIAL POLICY AND YOU'RE CONSISTENTLY, UH, ADHERING TO YOUR FINANCIAL POLICY.

ANYBODY ELSE. BECAUSE.

THE ONLY OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS KIND OF THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM IS WE'VE GOT $169 MILLION IN BONDS OUTSTANDING.

THAT'S GOING TO DOUBLE IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.

SO HOW DOES THAT.

I GUESS EVERYTHING WILL JUST GO, I GUESS.

EXPLAIN TO ME. OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE OUT $5 MILLION IN OUR DEBT SERVICE FUND, BUT OUR OVERALL DEBT IS GOING TO DOUBLE.

AND SO WE TAKE IN ARE WE ARE WE SHOOTING OURSELVES IN THE FOOT BY TAKING THAT CUSHION OUT? I DON'T KNOW, BUT, UM, I ALWAYS LIKE FOR LOOKING FOR MONEY, OBVIOUSLY.

BUT YEAH, I'M JUST THINKING.

YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

YEAH. THANK YOU FOR THAT.

UM, YEAH.

I BECAUSE THE DEBT SERVICE FUND IS, UH, IS FUNDED BY THE TAX RATE AND THAT IS THE STRONGEST AND MOST RELIABLE REVENUE STREAM THAT WE HAVE. YOU REALLY DON'T HAVE TO HAVE AN EXCESSIVE AMOUNT.

IN FACT, THE DEBT SERVICE FUND IS FUNDED FIRST BEFORE THE GENERAL GOVERNMENT AND O&M, UH, ACTIVITIES BY BOND COVENANT.

SO AND THAT'S WHY YOU COULD SEE THE NUMBERS GROW AS THEY DO, UH, IF YOU MISCALCULATE, REGARDLESS, THE MONEY IS GOING TO GO IN THERE AND YOU CAN'T TAKE IT OUT.

OKAY. SO SO THAT'S WHY I DON'T THINK IT HARMS YOU.

YOU ARE CORRECT THAT THIS IS A BIG CHANGE IN PARADIGM.

UH, SO SO I DIDN'T WANT TO JUST SIMPLY RELY ON MY EXPERIENCE AND EXPERTISE.

ALTHOUGH I SHOULD SAY I DID THE SAME THING WITH A PREVIOUS EMPLOYER, BUT I DID CONTACT YOUR FINANCIAL ADVISOR, THE CURRENT FINANCIAL ADVISOR FOR THE CITY OF BURLESON, AS WELL AS OUR BOND COUNCIL.

SO WE CONSISTENTLY TALK THROUGH THIS, AND WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT FOR REALLY, YOU KNOW, OVER A MONTH AND IMPLICATIONS.

SO ALL THREE OF US, ALL THREE PARTIES AGREED THAT HALF $1 MILLION IN ADJUSTMENT WOULD BE A GOOD PRACTICE FOR THE CITY.

AND AND IT REALLY DIDN'T CAUSE ANY EXPOSURE.

SO THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS I SHOWED THE THE SLIDE WITH THE BALANCE GOING BACK, YOU KNOW, TO 2006, AND YOU COULD SEE WHERE THE WHETHER OR NOT THERE WERE HUGE SWINGS IN THE DEBT SERVICE BALANCE AND YOU COULD SEE SOME SLIGHT ADJUSTMENTS, BUT IT NEVER WENT DOWN, PROBABLY OVER 300,000.

BUT IF YOU'RE CAREFULLY PLANNING IT, WHAT WHAT YOU REALLY HAVE TO DO IS FIGHT IT FROM NOT GOING UP.

IT'S WHAT HAPPENS, RIGHT? SO SO IT KIND OF CREEPS BACK IN.

AND IF AND WHEN THAT HAPPENS, WE'LL, YOU KNOW, CONTINUE TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS CONTINUALLY AS OPPOSED TO WAITING UNTIL IT BUILDS UP TO 6.3 MILLION.

THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE STRATEGY.

BUT UM, BUT THROUGHOUT MY EXPERIENCE, UH, I'VE NEVER SEEN CITIES HAVE A DETRIMENTAL IMPACT BY HAVING IT IN THIS, THIS

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TIME, THIS, THIS RANGE.

I MEAN, I'LL AGREE BECAUSE WE, WE WERE IN DOUBLE A RATED FOR SINCE BEFORE THE PANDEMIC.

AND I THINK WE JUST MOVED FROM WHAT A NEGATIVE DOUBLE A NEGATIVE TO DOUBLE A.

SO AND THEN WE'VE HAD THE LOW BALANCE CONSIDERING IT'S REALLY JUST THE LAST THREE YEARS THAT THAT BALANCE IS SHOT WAY UP.

SO IF WE GO BACK IT'S NOT I DON'T SEE IT BEING DETRIMENTAL TO OUR RATING.

LIKE YOU SAID, SMART FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT IS MORE IMPORTANT AND MAKING YOUR DEBT PAYMENTS.

SO YEAH. AND WHEN THE RATING AGENCIES REALLY LOOK AT FUND BALANCE, THEY FOCUS MORE ON YOUR GENERAL FUND BALANCE, NOT THE DEBT SERVICE FUND.

YEAH THAT'S GOOD.

WITH ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO. IF NOT, I'LL MENTION THE NEXT STEP.

THE FIRST ONE WOULD BE TO CONSIDER AMENDING THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.

SO WE TALKED ABOUT THE ALIGNMENTS EARLY ON IN THE PRESENTATION.

AND WHAT THIS WOULD DO IS, IS ACTUALLY APPROVE A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN CONSISTENT WITH THE DIRECTIONS YOU'VE GIVEN US.

UH, AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE REVIEW YOUR FINANCIAL POLICIES AND DEBT POLICIES.

YOUR FINANCIAL POLICIES HAS A STATEMENT THAT IT WOULD BE REVIEWED ANNUALLY ANYWAY.

BUT IF YOU WANT TO PURSUE SOME OF THE CHANGES WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, WE'LL TALK TO THE FINANCE COMMITTEE ABOUT THOSE AND WHAT THAT SHOULD LOOK LIKE AND AND BRING THEIR RECOMMENDATION BACK TO THE FULL COUNCIL, UH, IN 2024.

AND THEN AS WE GO THROUGH THE NEXT YEAR, CALENDAR YEAR, WE'LL CONTINUE TO EVALUATE THOSE REFINANCING OPPORTUNITIES AND UPDATING THOSE NUMBERS AND COUNCIL WITH THE FINANCIAL ADVISOR AND BOND COUNSEL.

AND IN TERMS OF THE TIMING, HOW FAST SHOULD WE COME FORWARD WITH CHANGES? YOU MIGHT NOT HAVE THIS ANSWER, BUT I'VE ALWAYS BEEN TAUGHT THAT OUR OUR SALES TAX AND OUR OUR PERMITS WERE KIND OF A WINDOW TO HOW WE'RE DOING, HOW'S OUR HOW'S OUR PERMITS AND OUR SALES TAX LOOKING RIGHT NOW? WE'RE DOING OKAY. ARE WE HOLDING WHERE WE'RE AT? YEAH, YEAH. THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION.

UM, YOU KNOW, THE PERMITTING FEES WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT BECAUSE OF A RISE IN INTEREST RATES WHENEVER THEY RISE, THAT DOES KIND OF MODERATE THE SINGLE FAMILY BUILDING PERMIT.

AND I HADN'T LOOKED AT THAT, UM, SO FAR THIS YEAR TO SEE HOW IT GOES.

BUT THAT'S BEEN OUR GENERAL CONVERSATION.

UH, WE DID TODAY RECEIVE THE FIRST SALES TAX, UH, NUMBER FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR, FOR THE MONTH OF OCTOBER, WE BUDGETED AT 3%, AND IT CAME IN AT 7.24%.

SO SO WE'RE HAVING TROUBLE HITTING THAT TAPPING THAT NUMBER DOWN.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LIVE WITH THAT ONE NOW.

SO HOPEFULLY THAT'S A POSITIVE SIGN FOR THE YEAR.

AND IF WE CONTINUE THAT TREND THAT WOULD BE GREAT NEWS.

MAYOR COUNCIL I WOULD SAY TOO THAT JUST LOOKING AT OUR MONTHLY BUILDING BUILDING ACTIVITY REPORT, FIRST TWO MONTHS OF THE YEAR REMAIN CONSISTENTLY STRONG AS THEY WERE LAST YEAR. SO WE WOULD BE JUST BASED ON THE FIRST TWO MONTHS OF THE YEAR ON TARGET FOR ABOUT 300 SINGLE FAMILY HOME PERMITS, WHICH IS WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING IN THE LAST FEW YEARS.

SO. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING ALL THIS AND PUTTING ALL THIS TOGETHER, BECAUSE I LIKE SEEING HOW WE'VE BEEN CONSERVATIVE IN OUR THINKING WITH, WITH, YOU KNOW, 3% GROWTH.

AND THEN IN FOUR YEARS NOW WE HAVE THIS LITTLE EASTER EGG THAT, OH, YOU'VE GOT AN EXTRA $5 MILLION IN YOUR DEBT SERVICE FUND.

BUT BUT NO, I APPRECIATE YOU DOING SOME DIGGING AND FINDING SOME SOLUTIONS.

YEAH, YEAH. MY PLEASURE.

UH, YOU'RE YOU'RE RIGHT.

IT'S A PLEASANT SURPRISE.

IT'S MUCH BETTER THAN ALTERNATIVE.

AND I LIKE STAYING.

I REALLY ALWAYS WANT TO UNDERSTATE OUR GROWTH.

ALWAYS. I MEAN, I LIKE GOOD SURPRISES, NOT BAD ONES.

SO. WE THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I'LL BE HAPPY TO RESPOND TO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.

ANYBODY? THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

THAT'LL BRING US TO EIGHT B RECEIVER REPORT.

[8.B. Receive a report, hold a discussion and provide staff feedback regarding Burleson Fire/EMS delivery of ambulance transportation services. (Staff Presenter: Casey Davis, Assistant Fire Chief)]

HOLD A DISCUSSION AND PROVIDE STAFF FEEDBACK REGARDING BURLESON FIRE EMS DELIVERY OF AMBULANCE TRANSPORTATION SERVICES.

THE STAFF PRESENTED THIS EVENING IS CASEY DAVIS, ASSISTANT FIRE CHIEF.

CHIEF DAVIS.

THANK YOU.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME PRESENT AND GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE NEW MS TRANSPORT SYSTEM.

UM, THE FIRST THING I WANT TO DO, FIRST AND FOREMOST IS JUST THANK OUR FIREFIGHTERS.

THEY HAVE STEPPED UP AND PROVIDED A NEW, EXCELLENT SERVICE TO OUR CITIZENS.

THEY HAVE REALLY DONE EVERYTHING ASKED OF THEM AND WENT ABOVE AND BEYOND.

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AND WE'VE BEEN GETTING SOME AMAZING FEEDBACK FROM OUTCOMES OF PATIENTS AND OUR CITIZENS AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T FIRST THANK THEM.

THEY'RE THE ONES PROVIDING THE SERVICE.

THEY'RE DOING AN EXCELLENT JOB WITH THAT FOR US.

I'D ALSO LIKE TO, UM, COMMEND OUR PUBLIC SAFETY COMMUNICATIONS.

THEY HAVE BEEN DOING AN EXCELLENT JOB.

THEY THEMSELVES HAVE TAKEN ON A BRAND NEW SYSTEM WITH THE EMERGENCY MEDICAL DISPATCHING.

AND ACTUALLY, ASHLEY PROVIDED ME AN EMAIL THAT SHE GOT FROM ANGELA HUDDLE, WHO IS THE PRIMARY DISPATCH EMD PROGRAM REPRESENTATIVE THAT HELPS US OUT.

AND SHE SAID THAT IN THE 30 YEARS THAT SHE'S BEEN AROUND DISPATCH, THAT THIS IS THE FASTEST START SHE'S EVER SEEN TO A GROUP.

JUMP OUT THERE AND REALLY TAKE IT ON AND GET IT.

SO WE'RE VERY PROUD OF ALL THE HARD WORK THAT OUR PUBLIC SAFETY COMMUNICATIONS WORKERS HAVE BEEN PUTTING INTO THAT.

WE'D ALSO LIKE TO THANK OUR CAREFLIGHT PARTNERSHIP.

THEY'VE BEEN HERE WITH US THROUGH SINCE WE BEGAN, AND THEY'VE BEEN OUT THERE ON THE STREETS HELPING WITH 911 CALLS AND INTER-FACILITY CALLS AS WELL.

AND THEY'RE DOING AN EXCELLENT JOB AND BEEN A GREAT PARTNERSHIP TO HAVE AS WELL.

SO WHAT WE'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT TONIGHT IS WE WANT TO GO THROUGH SOME OF THE EMERGENCY RESPONSE DATA THAT WE'VE GOT.

UH, WE'VE ONLY REALLY GOT TWO MONTHS TO SPEAK ON SO FAR.

UH, SO WE'RE EARLY IN IT.

WE'RE FIGURING OUT A LOT OF THINGS STILL AS WE GO.

BUT, YOU KNOW, SO FAR SO GOOD WITH ALL OF THE THE WORK THAT THE FOLKS HAVE BEEN DOING.

WE WANT TO REVIEW OUR MISSION STATEMENT FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND ALSO TOUCH ON SOME KEY POINTS IN OUR EMS ORDINANCE.

UM, I KNOW THERE'S BEEN QUESTIONS AROUND INTER-FACILITY TRANSFERS, SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ADDRESS THOSE.

WE WANT TO DEFINE WHAT AN INTER-FACILITY TRANSFER IS, TALK ABOUT PATIENT ACUITY, AND THEN TALK ABOUT OUR DISPATCH, UH, PROCEDURES.

WE ALSO WANT TO DEFINE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN EMERGENCY AND A NON-EMERGENCY TRANSPORT.

TALK ABOUT HOW WE'VE MADE SOME CHANGES WITH OUR EMS MODEL AND DELIVERY AS WE STARTED IN OCTOBER TO NOVEMBER TO NOW IN DECEMBER.

AND THEN I ALSO HAVE WITH ME, UH, BLAKE WINDHAM WITH TEXAS HEALTH BURLESON.

THEY'RE OBVIOUSLY THE LARGEST USER OF THE INTER-FACILITY TRANSFERS AND MAKE UP THE MAJORITY OF THE NEED IN THE COMMUNITY CURRENTLY.

SO WE THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT FOR THEM TO BE HERE AS A STAKEHOLDER, TO SPEAK ON THEIR EXPERIENCE AND THE, UM, THE SERVICE THAT THEY'VE BEEN RECEIVING FROM US SO FAR. UM, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO REMEMBER THAT TEXAS HEALTH IS JUST A MEDICAL FACILITY IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT HAS A HAS NEEDS, JUST LIKE SOME OF THE OTHER FACILITIES.

THERE'S NO OFFICIAL AFFILIATION BETWEEN THE CITY OF BURLESON AND TEXAS HEALTH BURLESON THEY'RE OBVIOUSLY THEIR OWN STANDALONE ENTITY, SEPARATE FROM BURLESON, BUT THEY HAVE BEEN GREAT COMMUNITY PARTNERS, GREAT, UM, HEALTH PARTNERS IN OUR COMMUNITY IN MANY WAYS.

AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE DOCTOR CORDOVA HERE WITH US TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AND PROVIDE SOME FEEDBACK.

AND THEN LASTLY, WE'LL HAVE TO TALK ABOUT SOME KEY TAKEAWAYS AND SOME SUCCESSES THAT WE'VE HAD.

SO JUST TO KIND OF JUMP INTO THE DATA HERE, WE'VE SO OCTOBER THROUGH NOVEMBER WE RAN 1149 EMS CALLS. AND THIS IS KIND OF THE BREAKDOWN OF 911 VERSUS INTER-FACILITY TRANSPORTS.

AND THEN A FEW LIFT ASSISTS AND SOME OTHER UM, CALL TYPES.

SO HOW HAS BURLESON BEEN DOING WITH THIS? WELL. BURLESON SPECIFICALLY IS TRANSPORTED 725 PATIENTS OUT OF THAT 1149.

SO OF THE 1149 UM, YOU KNOW, NOT EVERY EMS CALL OBVIOUSLY TURNS INTO SOMEONE GETTING TRANSPORTED TO THE HOSPITAL.

SOMETIMES PEOPLE JUST NEED TO GET CHECKED OUT.

THEY MAY HAVE NOT EVEN CALLED FOR THE AMBULANCE IF IT'S LIKE A CAR WRECK OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE.

AND SO OUR OUR FIREFIGHTERS ARE STILL PROVIDING EMS CARE FROM THE ENGINES AND THE TRUCKS, JUST LIKE THEY DID PRIOR TO US GOING LIVE WITH OUR EMS SYSTEM.

OF THE PATIENTS THAT BURLESON TRANSPORTED ON, 611 OF THOSE WERE 911 PATIENTS AND 118 OF THOSE WERE INTER-FACILITY.

SO WHAT DOES CAREFLIGHT DONE? SINCE WE STARTED, THEY'VE RAN 176 EMS CALLS FOR US AND TRANSPORTED 128 PATIENTS, AND THAT BROKE OUT 59 PATIENTS ON THE 911 SIDE AND 69 ON THE INTER-FACILITY SIDE.

SO BURLESON'S AVERAGE RESPONSE TIMES, I THINK, ARE IMPORTANT TO TO TOUCH ON.

AND I THINK AGAIN SHOWS WHAT A GREAT JOB OUR FOLKS HAVE BEEN DOING TO DO THEIR BEST TO PROVIDE THE SERVICE.

SO THE FIRST ONE HERE, 34 SECONDS, THAT'S FROM THE TIME DISPATCH NOTIFIES US UNTIL WE'RE LEAVING THE STATION.

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SO THAT'S GREAT. I MEAN, THAT'S AN AMAZING AVERAGE.

THEY'RE GETTING OUT OF THE HOUSE 34 SECONDS.

SO THE NEXT ONE IS HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE US FROM THE TIME WE LEAVE THE STATION? TILL WE GET ON SCENE? THAT'S FOUR MINUTES AND 17 SECONDS.

AND THEN HOW LONG ON AVERAGE ARE WE ON SCENE? THAT'S 21 MINUTES AND 59 SECONDS.

UM, SO THAT'S THAT'S GREAT.

UM, THEN HOW LONG HAS IT TAKEN US TO GET FROM THE SCENE TO THE HOSPITAL TO DELIVER THE PATIENT? THAT'S ON AVERAGE 17 MINUTES AND 24 SECONDS.

AND THEN FINALLY, HOW LONG ARE WE STAYING AT THE HOSPITAL? SO IT'S TAKEN THEM ABOUT 24 MINUTES TO DELIVER THE PATIENT, TRANSFER THAT INFORMATION.

RIGHT. A PATIENT CHART OR RIGHT, THE MAJORITY OF A PATIENT CHART TRANSFER THAT OUT AND THEN GET BACK TO THE CITY.

SO I WOULD SAY ALL IN ALL, OUR FOLKS ARE DOING A REALLY GREAT JOB OF DELIVERING THAT SERVICE ON THE METRICS AS WELL.

ONE OF THE THINGS WE DID WANT TO TALK ABOUT, THOUGH, IS OUR CALL VOLUME.

AS YOU RECALL, WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT GOING INTO THE AMBULANCE BUSINESS, THEY WERE LOOKING AT DATA FROM 2020 BACK.

SO NOW THAT YOU KNOW WE'RE IN YEAR 2023 AND THE AMBULANCE STUFF IS IS OFF AND RUNNING, WE'VE SEEN SIGNIFICANT CALL VOLUME FROM THAT ORIGINAL FITCH STUDY THAT WE DID TO LOOK AT THE AMBULANCE, UM, SYSTEM.

AND UM, THEY AT THE TIME PROJECTED SOMEWHERE BETWEEN A FIVE AND 7% CALL VOLUME INCREASE, UM, YEAR OVER YEAR, WHICH WOULD BE BE TYPICAL.

BUT THE RAPID GROWTH THAT WE'VE SEEN IN OUR COMMUNITY, AS YOU CAN SEE IN 2021, WE WENT UP 25%, 2022, WE WENT UP ANOTHER 22%.

AND THEN WE'RE PROJECTED THIS YEAR TO GO UP ANOTHER 7%.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HOPING THAT THIS WILL WILL STAY STEADY MOVING FORWARD.

BUT WE JUST DON'T HAVE ENOUGH DATA YET TO LOOK AT THAT.

WE'RE BEING ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF ALL THE PATIENTS WITH THE CURRENT SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE HAVE SET UP.

SO THAT'S GOOD. BUT I THINK IT'S JUST IMPORTANT THAT WE CONTINUE TO WATCH THESE NUMBERS AND PAY ATTENTION TO THOSE AS AS FUTURE CONVERSATIONS COME AROUND THIS.

SO THE BURLESON FIRE MS. OUR MISSION IS TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE AND SAFETY OF OUR CITIZENS BY PROVIDING THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF SERVICE THROUGH FIRE PREVENTION, COMMUNITY RISK REDUCTION, EMERGENCY RESPONSE, AND TRAINING.

WE PUT SOME KEY STATEMENTS OUT OF THE EMS ORDINANCE JUST TO HELP FRAME THE CONVERSATION AS WE TALK ABOUT THIS.

THE FIRST ONE IS TO ESTABLISH AND REGULATE A PRE-HOSPITAL EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES AND TRANSPORT SYSTEM, WHICH WHICH WE'VE DONE THAT'S THAT'S OFTEN RUNNING NOW.

THE NEXT ONE IS TO ADMINISTER AND OPERATE A PRE-HOSPITAL EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICE AND MEDICAL TRANSPORT SYSTEM IN OUR SERVICE AREA.

AND WE'RE DOING THAT AS WELL AS ANY MOBILE INTEGRATED HEALTH CARE PROGRAMS. UM, SO THAT WOULD BE ANY FUTURE PROGRAMS IF WE DID SOMETHING LIKE A COMMUNITY PARAMEDIC PROGRAM OR PROGRAMS WHERE WE'RE PARTNERING WITH OTHER HEALTH FACILITIES TO TRY TO PREVENT OR REDUCE, UM, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE'S NEED TO ACCESS THE EMS SYSTEM.

THE NEXT ONE SAYS THAT WE'RE THE SOLE PROVIDER OF EMERGENCY AND NON-EMERGENCY AMBULANCE SERVICES, INCLUDING INTER-FACILITY TRANSFERS, SPECIAL EVENT SERVICES WITHIN THE JURISDICTION TO MAINTAIN CONSISTENT HIGH QUALITY SERVICE WHILE CONTROLLING COSTS THROUGH EFFICIENCIES AND ECONOMIES OF SCALE.

SO WHEN WE TOOK THE EMS SYSTEM, WE TOOK ALL OF THE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THOSE THINGS.

BUT WE ALSO PUT IN THE ORDINANCE THAT ALTHOUGH WE'RE THE SOLE PROVIDER, WE CAN PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES SERVICES EITHER DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY THROUGH LIKE PARTNERSHIPS THAT WE HAVE WITH CAREFLIGHT AND OTHER MUTUAL AID PARTNERS.

SO THE INTER-FACILITY TRANSFER QUESTION.

SO WHAT IS AN INTER-FACILITY TRANSFER? FIRST OF ALL, THAT IS SOMEONE THAT IS AT A FACILITY THAT NEEDS TO GO TO ANOTHER FACILITY.

UM, SO THINK ABOUT HOSPITAL TO HOSPITAL OR CLINIC TO HOSPITAL, LIKE A REHAB OR NURSING HOME TYPE SETTING.

AND SOMETIMES IT CAN BE FROM HOSPITAL BACK TO A REHABILITATION OR HOSPITAL BACK TO LONG TERME CARE.

AND THIS CAN ALSO INCLUDE SOMETHING LIKE A SCHEDULED TRANSFER, WHERE SOMEONE MAY NEED TO GO TO DIALYSIS, OR MAY NEED TO GO TO A SPECIAL TYPE OF, UH, DOCTOR'S APPOINTMENT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SO THERE'S THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE IN THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF THESE INTER-FACILITY TRANSFERS.

NOW A TRANSPORT I KNOW THESE TWO WORDS GET INTERMINGLED A LOT.

A TRANSPORT IS JUST THE PHYSICAL PROCESS OF US MOVING THEM WITH THE AMBULANCE.

THAT'S THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE THERE.

SO THAT COULD BE A911 CALL OR THAT COULD BE AN INTER FACILITY CALL WHERE WE ACTUALLY JUST PHYSICALLY TRANSPORT A PATIENT FROM ONE PLACE TO ANOTHER.

I THINK ANOTHER THING THAT'S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT INTER-FACILITY TRANSFERS IS A MEDICAL NECESSITY CERTIFICATION STATEMENT.

AND THIS IS ESSENTIALLY A FORM THAT'S UTILIZED BY THE FACILITY TO CERTIFY THE REQUIREMENT FOR THE TRANSPORT BASED ON RECOMMENDATIONS OF A HEALTH CARE PROFESSIONAL.

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AND SO AT TEXAS HEALTH BURLESON IN THE E.R., THAT'S ALWAYS A PHYSICIAN, BUT AT A NURSING HOME THAT MAY BE A HEAD NURSE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT IT IS A HEALTH CARE PROFESSIONAL THAT'S SAYING THIS IS A LEGITIMATE NEED, WHERE WE NEED TO MOVE THIS PATIENT FROM ONE FACILITY TO ANOTHER FOR, FOR WHATEVER MAY BE GOING ON WITH THEM.

NOW, WITH THAT SAID, THERE'S DIFFERENT LEVELS OF ACUITY.

SO HOW TIMELY DOES THIS MAY NEED TO HAPPEN? UM, WHENEVER YOU START TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, MOVING A PATIENT FROM ONE PLACE TO ANOTHER, NOT ALL THINGS ARE CREATED EQUAL.

SOME THINGS ARE VERY TIME SENSITIVE.

SOME THINGS ARE VERY CRITICAL.

AND SO HERE NOT TO BELABOR WITH ALL OF THE WORDS WE HAVE HERE ON THIS SLIDE.

BASICALLY A STABLE WITH NO RISK FOR DETERIORATION.

MAYBE SOMEONE THAT JUST NEEDS OXYGEN AND US TO MONITOR THEIR VITAL SIGNS.

UM, SOMEONE WITH LOW RISK OF STABLE, WITH LOW RISK OF DETERIORATION, YOU KNOW, KIND OF THAT NEXT LEVEL.

THEY MAY BE RUNNING SOME IV MEDICATIONS.

UM, THEY MAY BE NEED TO BE PULSE OXIMETRY, WHERE WE'RE MONITORING THE OXYGEN LEVEL IN THEIR BLOOD SYSTEM, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

THAT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE ADVANCED CARE AT THAT POINT.

AND THEN KIND OF THE NEXT LEVEL IS A MEDIUM RISK OF DETERIORATION.

WE'RE ACTUALLY MONITORING THEIR HEART WITH OUR CARDIAC MONITOR.

THEY MAY BE ON SOME MORE ADVANCED MEDICATION UM SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

AND AT THIS POINT THIS MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT IS VERY TIME SENSITIVE.

UM. EXCUSE ME.

STABLE WITH A HIGH RISK OF DETERIORATION.

NOW, THIS IS A PATIENT THAT MAY REQUIRE SPECIAL EQUIPMENT.

LIKE, THEY MAY HAVE A BREATHING TUBE DOWN THEIR THROAT.

THEY NEED MAY NEED TO BE ON A VENTILATOR FOR SOMETHING TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR AIRWAY.

SO THIS MIGHT BE MORE OF THE, UM, SPECIALTY CARE TRANSPORT TYPE.

SO THIS THIS WOULD REQUIRE SPECIAL TRAINED PARAMEDICS WITH SPECIAL EQUIPMENT TO COME TAKE CARE OF THAT.

AND THAT COULD EITHER BE TIME SENSITIVE OR COULD COULD BE SLIGHTLY DELAYED DEPENDING UPON AVAILABILITY OF THOSE KIND OF RESOURCES, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY IF THEY'RE ALREADY WITH A DOCTOR IN AN EMERGENCY ROOM WHERE THEY'RE WHERE THEY'RE BEING MANAGED AND TAKEN CARE OF.

THEN THE LAST IS THE UNSTABLE PATIENT, AND THAT'S A PATIENT WHO CANNOT BE STABILIZED, AND THEY NEED TO BE TRANSFERRED IMMEDIATELY.

THEY HAVE SOME KIND OF TIME SENSITIVE CONDITION, WHETHER, YOU KNOW, IT'S A TRAUMA OR A HEART ATTACK OR A STROKE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

UM, AND THAT THERE COULD BE A SPECIALTY CARE TRANSPORT OR IT COULD BE A NORMAL EMERGENCY TRANSPORT.

SO THE NEXT THING WE'RE GETTING TO IS WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN EMERGENCY TRANSPORT AND A NON-EMERGENCY TRANSPORT? I THINK HERE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A COMBINATION OF A COUPLE OF THERE'S LOTS OF DIFFERENT DEFINITIONS OUT THERE.

BUT THIS WAS THE BEST THAT WE COULD KIND OF COME UP TO KIND OF EXPLAIN THE MOST COMMON WAYS THAT THIS COULD BE.

SO THIS COULD BE THAT LIFE THREATENING, IMMEDIATE, EMERGENT, URGENT TYPE THING THAT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN CARE OF.

BUT THIS COULD ALSO BE FACILITY.

FACILITY TRANSPORTS ARE APPROPRIATE AS EMERGENCIES IF THEY REQUIRE TREATMENT, UM, FOR AN EMERGENCY MEDICAL CONDITION NOT AVAILABLE AT THE FIRST FACILITY.

SO A LOT OF THE TRANSFERS OUT OF TEXAS HEALTH BURLESON, I WOULD SAY THE VAST MAJORITY WOULD FIT INTO THIS, UM, THIS BUCKET HERE AS BEING AN EMERGENCY BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THE FACILITIES THAT THEY NEED AT THE FIRST HOSPITAL TO TAKE CARE OF ALL OF THEIR NEEDS.

THEY NEED TO GO TO THE OTHER PLACE.

NOW, WITH THAT BEING SAID, THEY COULD FIT IN ANY ONE OF THESE ACUITY LEVELS.

SO HOW QUICKLY WE NEED TO GET THERE.

WE TRIAGE THESE AND THIS WILL MAKE A LITTLE BIT MORE SENSE WHENEVER I GET INTO A FURTHER SLIDE, TALKING THROUGH HOW OUR PROCESS IS FROM WHEN WE INTAKE THESE TO WHEN WE DELIVER AN AMBULANCE THERE TO TO TRANSPORT THE PATIENT OVER TO THE HOSPITAL.

AND THEN AGAIN, A NON-EMERGENCY TRANSPORT WOULD BE WHAT YOU WOULD THINK.

IT WOULD BE A TRANSPORT THAT OCCURS WHEN A PATIENT NEEDS ARE NOT IMMEDIATE.

UH, SOME EXAMPLES COULD INCLUDE A PATIENT FROM A SCHEDULED MEDICAL APPOINTMENT TO AND FROM A LICENSED FACILITY FOR TREATMENT.

UM, GENERAL NON-EMERGENCY TRANSPORTS ARE ARRANGED IN ADVANCE AND MAY INCLUDE DATES AND TIMES FOR PICK UPS AND DROP OFFS.

SO HOW HAVE WE KIND OF EVOLVED SINCE WE GOT STARTED WITH ALL OF THIS? LIKE I SAID, WE TOOK WE TOOK ALL OF THIS IN-HOUSE AND WE NEEDED TO MANAGE IT FROM THE CITY'S PERSPECTIVE.

SO IN OCTOBER, BURLESON FIRE EMS WAS THE PRIMARY FOR ALL 911 AND INTER-FACILITY TRANSFERS, AND WE WERE UTILIZING CAREFLIGHT AS A BACKUP.

UM, AT THAT POINT, WE NOTICED A HEAVY WORKLOAD AND CALL VOLUME ON THE SYSTEM, SO WE STARTED UTILIZING OUR FOURTH AMBULANCE.

SO AT THAT POINT, WE STARTED CALLING BACK IN STAFF TO UTILIZE THAT DURING SOME PEAK PEAK HOURS, UM, IN NOVEMBER, TO REDUCE SOME OF THAT, UM, WE STARTED ALTERNATING THE INTER FACILITY WORK WITH CAREFLIGHT.

WE NOTICED THEY WERE BEING UNDERUTILIZED.

THAT WAS A RESOURCE WE NEEDED TO UTILIZE MORE.

WE ALSO HAD AN AMBULANCE GO OUT OF SERVICE IN NOVEMBER.

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UM, AND SO THAT KIND OF HELPED THAT, THAT, UH, CONVERSATION ABOUT UTILIZING CAREFLIGHT A LITTLE BIT MORE THERE WHERE WE STARTED TO ALTERNATE THEM.

UM, THANKFULLY WE GOT THAT AMBULANCE BACK IN SERVICE RELATIVELY QUICKLY AND NOW IN DECEMBER.

SO AS OF LAST WEDNESDAY, BURLESON FIRE EMS WILL BE PRIMARY FOR 911 AND CAREFLIGHT WILL BE PRIMARY FOR INTER-FACILITY.

AND THEN WE'LL BACK THOSE SYSTEMS UP APPROPRIATELY FOR FOR EACH SIDE.

AND THIS HAS BEEN COMMUNICATED OUT TO OUR STAFF AND HAS BEEN WORKING WELL SINCE THEN.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE STOPPED, UM, COVERING THAT FOURTH AMBULANCE RIGHT NOW AND THE WORKLOAD HASN'T GOTTEN CRAZY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

I THINK THAT THIS IS WORKING WELL AT THE MOMENT.

NOW, GRANTED, WE ONLY HAVE ONE WEEK WORTH OF DATA TO LOOK AT THIS.

WE NEED MORE DATA TO SEE WHERE THE CALL VOLUME IS GOING, WHERE THE DEMAND IS GOING.

UM, ALL OF THOSE THINGS, WE MAY NEED TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION WITH MR. LUDWIG ABOUT, UH, STAFFING THAT OTHER UNIT, YOU KNOW, DURING PEAK TIMES OR HAVE FURTHER CONVERSATIONS WITH CAREFLIGHT.

CAREFUL. IT'S BEEN A GREAT PARTNER TO HELP US.

WHEN WE'VE GOTTEN BUSY, THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO BRING CLAYBURNE TRUCK DOWN TO HELP, UM, WITH INTER-FACILITY TRANSFERS OR BACKUP FOR 911.

THEY'VE ALSO BEEN ABLE TO HELP WITH A LONG RANGE TRANSFER THAT CAME IN THAT NEEDED TO GO ABOUT FOUR HOURS AWAY.

SO OBVIOUSLY THAT'S NOT SOMETHING WE'RE WE WANT TO UTILIZE THE BURLESON RESOURCES FOR.

THEY WERE ABLE TO BRING ANOTHER TRUCK IN AND HELP US TAKE CARE OF THAT SITUATION, WHICH, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS A PART OF THE PARTNERSHIP FROM THE GET GO, WAS THAT THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO HELP US UTILIZE FOR THOSE KIND OF THINGS.

BUT THEN WE ALSO HAVE OTHER PARTNERS WITH, UH, CROWLEY FOR 911 BACKUP, AND THEN WE STILL HAVE A MUTUAL AID AGREEMENT WITH MEDSTAR, AND THEY CAN DO INTER-FACILITY TRANSFERS, THEY CAN DO NON-EMERGENCY THE EMERGENCY AND 911, OF COURSE, AS WELL.

SO OUR NEW SYSTEM AS OF LAST WEDNESDAY, THIS IS KIND OF HOW IT IS FLOWING.

SO PUBLIC SAFETY COMMUNICATIONS, THEY RECEIVE A PHONE CALL FROM TEXAS HEALTH BURLESON OR ANOTHER FACILITY IN TOWN THAT NEEDS AN INTER FACILITY REQUEST.

THEY WILL EMD THAT CALL JUST LIKE THEY WOULD ANY OTHER CALL, AND THEN THEY WILL DISPATCH IF THERE'S NO CONCERNS.

IF MEDIC CARE FLIGHT MEDIC 42 IS AVAILABLE AND IT'S A STANDARD NORMAL TRANSFER TYPE SITUATION, THEY'LL JUST DISPATCH THEM OVER TO THAT.

IF IT'S A911, THEY'LL DISPATCH BURLESON RESPECTIVELY.

IF THE DISPATCHERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS, THEY CAN CALL THE BATTALION CHIEF.

YOU KNOW, USUALLY THIS IS AROUND INTER-FACILITY TRANSFERS, ESPECIALLY IF THERE'S QUESTIONS ABOUT AMBULANCE AVAILABILITY, BECAUSE WHEN WE GET DOWN TO TWO AMBULANCES LEFT IN THE SYSTEM, WE WANT TO HOLD TRANSFERS IF IT'S APPROPRIATE TO DO SO.

SO THAT WE BECAUSE WE WE'RE GETTING SOME PRETTY GOOD DATA ON WHEN OUR PEAK TIME HOURS ARE.

AND THAT'S TYPICALLY ANYWHERE FROM ABOUT 10 TO 1:00 IN THE AFTERNOON IS WHEN IT STARTS TO REALLY PICK UP.

AND THAT'LL GO TILL ABOUT SEVEN, 8:00.

YOU KNOW, MAYBE SOMETIMES A LITTLE BIT LATER.

YOU KNOW, IT'S PRETTY INTERESTING.

YOU WOULD THINK THAT ON THE WEEKENDS WE WOULD BE BUSIER, BUT REALLY IT'S DURING THE WEEK IT'S LIKE MONDAY, TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY IS SOME OF OUR BUSIEST DAYS THAT WE'VE WE'VE SEEN SO FAR. AND IT'S KIND OF DURING THOSE PEAK HOURS.

WELL, A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE COMING THROUGH THE CITY.

A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE HERE DOING BUSINESS.

A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE COMING TO AND FROM WORK AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND SO FOR OUR COMMUNITY, THAT LOOKS LIKE THAT'S WHERE THE DEMAND IS RIGHT NOW.

SO WHEN WE FIND OURSELVES IN THOSE SITUATIONS AND IT'S APPROPRIATE, YOU KNOW, THEY'LL HOLD ON THE TRANSFERS AND WE TRY TO GET TO ALL OF THOSE IN A IN A VERY TIMELY MANNER.

AND WE AND WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO AND I'M SURE BLAKE WILL BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO THEIR THE SERVICE THAT THEY'VE RECEIVED SO FAR.

UM, IF THE BATTALION CHIEF HAS ANY CONCERNS OR ISSUES, THEY CAN CALL DOCTOR CORDOVA TO TALK ABOUT PATIENT ACUITY.

YOU KNOW, SHOULD WE HOLD SHOULD WE NOT HOLD THOSE KIND OF THINGS? SO DOCTOR CORDOVA IS INVOLVED IN THOSE CONVERSATIONS IF NEEDED.

WE ALSO HAVE REGULARLY HAVE CONVERSATIONS DIRECTLY WITH THE FACILITY.

YOU KNOW, THERE'S A DOCTOR THERE THAT'S WITH THE PATIENT AND THEIR MEDICAL STAFF AND THEIR HELP DETERMINING, YOU KNOW, AND WE HAVE GREAT COMMUNICATION WITH THEM.

AND I THINK THAT THEY'VE THEY'VE THEY'VE SEEN AN IMPROVEMENT IN THEIR SERVICE, HOW QUICKLY WE'RE ABLE TO GET THERE AND TAKE CARE OF THEIR NEEDS AS WELL.

UM, SO LIKE I SAID, THEY'LL DISPATCH CAREFLIGHT IF AVAILABLE.

BURLESON IF CAREFLIGHT'S NOT AVAILABLE.

AND WHAT WE MEAN BY THAT IS IF IT'S A INTER FACILITY THAT CAN CAN WAIT A LITTLE BIT, AND MEDIC 42 IS GOING UP TO FORT WORTH TO DROP ONE OFF AND THEY CAN DROP THAT OFF AND COME BACK, THEN WE'LL HOLD THAT TRANSFER FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO COME BACK, AND WE'LL UTILIZE THE BURLESON RESOURCES PRIMARILY FOR 911 AND STAY STAY AVAILABLE FOR THAT. WE CAN ALSO IF IT'S A CRUCIAL IF IT'S CRITICAL, TIME SENSITIVE, WE CAN TAKE IT IMMEDIATELY.

OR WE CAN CALL MUTUAL AID IF NEED BE.

UM, AVAILABLE TO HOLD IT.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT, YOU KNOW, TO DISTINGUISH SOMETHING SPECIAL ABOUT THE BURLESON FIRE EMS AMBULANCES.

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IS EVERYONE ON THOSE AMBULANCES IS A FIREFIGHTER ALSO, SO THEY CAN ALSO SHOW UP TO A FIRE AND ASSIST AT A FIRE.

THEY CAN ALSO SHOW UP AT A WRECK AND ASSIST WITH EXTRICATION, DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT.

THEY HAVE SOME MORE CAPABILITIES ON THE BURLESON AMBULANCES THEN PARTICULARLY ON THE CAREFLIGHT AMBULANCES.

BUT THE CAREFLIGHT AMBULANCES CAN ALSO DO SOME OF THE MORE HIGH ACUITY SPECIALTY TRANSFERS WITH SOME OF THE EQUIPMENT THAT THEY CARRY.

SO IT'S A GREAT COMPLEMENTATION OF BOTH SYSTEMS WORKING TOGETHER WITHIN ONE TO TO MEET THE NEEDS OF OUR COMMUNITY.

AND LIKE I SAID, SO FAR, UH, IT'S I'D LIKE TO REPORT THAT IT'S GOING WELL WITH ALL OF THAT.

SO AT THIS TIME, I WANT TO TURN IT OVER TO, UH, BLAKE WINDHAM.

HE'S THE ADMINISTRATOR FOR TEXAS HEALTH BURLESON, AND HE'S GOT A QUICK PRESENTATION FOR US.

THANK YOU, CHIEF DAVIS.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE WITH YOU THIS EVENING.

AS CHIEF DAVIS MENTIONED, MY NAME IS BLAKE WINDHAM.

I SERVE AS THE ADMINISTRATOR HERE AT TEXAS HEALTH BURLESON AT OUR SISTER FACILITY, TEXAS HEALTH WILLOW PARK IN PARKER COUNTY.

I REALLY WANT TO TAKE A BROAD APPROACH, SINCE I DON'T GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT TO THE COUNCIL VERY OFTEN AND REALLY JUST TALK ABOUT THE COLLABORATIONS AND THE EFFORTS WE'VE MADE WITH THE CITY OF BURLESON OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS.

AND THEN I'LL GET TO OUR TRANSPORT VOLUMES AND THE PERCENTAGE OF PATIENTS THAT WE TREAT AND RELEASE, VERSUS THE PERCENTAGE OF PATIENTS THAT WE TREAT AND ADMIT.

SO TEXAS HEALTH RESOURCES IS THE LARGEST HEALTH SYSTEM IN THE STATE IN THE EXCUSE ME, IN THE DFW AREA ARE THE HEADQUARTERS, AS YOU SEE RIGHT THERE IS IN ARLINGTON OFF OF LAMAR BOULEVARD. AND THEN WE HAVE MORE THAN 20 HOSPITALS ACROSS DFW.

ONE OF THOSE IS TEXAS HEALTH BURLESON.

JUST SOME QUICK FACTS ABOUT OUR ONE OF THE LARGEST NOT FOR PROFIT FAITH BASED SYSTEMS IN THE UNITED STATES.

WE HAVE 25 ACUTE CARE AND SHORT STAY HOSPITALS.

WE HAVE OVER 3800 LICENSED BEDS IN THE STATE OF TEXAS, MORE THAN ANY OTHER HEALTH HEALTH SYSTEM IN THE DFW AREA.

WE HAVE 27,000 EMPLOYEES AND OVER 5500 PHYSICIANS ON THE MEDICAL STAFF.

WE HAVE A BREEZE URGENT CARE WITH 25 LOCATIONS.

TWO OF THOSE ARE IN THE FORT WORTH AREA RIGHT NOW AND ONE COMING TO BURLESON SOON.

WE HAVE A PARTNERSHIP WITH DISPATCH HEALTH TO BRING HEALTH CARE BACK TO YOUR HOME.

SO, UM, SOME OF YOU REMEMBER WHEN YOU COULD HAVE A DOCTOR COME TO YOUR HOUSE AND MAKE HOUSE CALLS? THR HAS BROUGHT THAT BACK THROUGH DISPATCH HEALTH, SO IF YOU'RE NOT FEELING WELL, YOU DON'T FEEL LIKE GOING TO AN URGENT CARE.

YOU CAN CALL AND GET DISPATCH HEALTH THE SAME DAY, SERVE ALL COUNTIES IN DFW AND WE'RE CONSISTENTLY RANKED A FORTUNE.

GREAT PLACE TO WORK. SO SPECIFICALLY ABOUT TEXAS HEALTH BURLESON.

WE OPENED IN APRIL 2010, SPECIFICALLY ON APRIL FOOL'S DAY 2010, WE SERVE BURLESON JOSHUA, CLEBURNE, ALVARADO, KEENE, GRANDVIEW, AND ALL OF JOHNSON COUNTY 24 OVER SEVEN 365 EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT UNDER THE LICENSE OF TEXAS HEALTH FORT WORTH, WHICH IS SOME OF YOU KNOW, AS HARRIS METHODIST FORT WORTH DOWNTOWN APPROXIMATELY 22,000 PATIENT VOLUME.

EXCUSE ME, PATIENT VISITS PER YEAR IN THE EMERGENCY ROOM ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BUILDING.

WE HAVE PHYSICAL SPORTS, GENERAL, AQUATIC AND VESTIBULAR THERAPY.

BETWEEN 600 700 PATIENT ENCOUNTERS MONTHLY FULL FIVE FULL TIME BOARD CERTIFIED PHYSICAL THERAPISTS.

WE HAVE A FULL SUITE OF RADIOLOGY SERVICES TO INCLUDE 3D MAMMOGRAPHY, BONE DENSITY, X RAY, MRI, CT AND ULTRASOUND.

SAME AND NEXT DAY APPOINTMENTS AVAILABLE.

WE HAVE CARDIAC REHABILITATION FOR OUR VULNERABLE PATIENTS THAT HAVE SUFFERED AN MRI, OR THOSE THAT HAVE HAD A PACEMAKER PUT IN, OR THOSE THAT ARE, UM, HEART VULNERABLE.

THOSE ARE THE PATIENTS WE TAKE CARE OF A FITNESS CENTER WITH AN OLYMPIC SIZED POOL THAT'S OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.

WE HAVE ON SITE PHYSICIAN OFFICES IN PRIMARY CARE, OBGYN AND CARDIOLOGY.

WE LOVE OUR COMMUNITY.

I'VE BEEN AT THIS FACILITY FOR GOING ON SEVEN YEARS NOW, AND I'VE SEEN MANY OF YOU AT CHAMBER EVENTS, AT CASA EVENTS, MEALS ON WHEELS.

AND THAT'S BECAUSE TEXAS HEALTH BURLESON MAKES AN EFFORT TO BE PART OF THE COMMUNITY AS A FAITH BASED, NOT FOR PROFIT.

WE TRY TO EMPLOY A COMMUNITY BENEFIT MODEL, WHICH MEANS THAT IF WE SEE A PARTNERSHIP THAT WE CAN ENGAGE IN WITH ANOTHER ORGANIZATION THAT'S DOING GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY, WE WANT TO SUPPORT THAT ORGANIZATION FINANCIALLY.

SO JUST A FEW THINGS.

WE'VE BEEN PLATINUM OR GOLD MEMBERS OF THE BURLESON AREA CHAMBER OF COMMERCE SINCE WE OPENED IN 2010.

WE ARE STRONG SUPPORTERS OF CASA OF JOHNSON COUNTY.

WE SUPPORT THE NORTH JOSHUA ELEMENTARY, STUDENTS OF CHARACTER.

WE JUST RECENTLY STARTED A PARTNERSHIP WITH JOHNSON COUNTY SHERIFF'S POSSE TO HELP THAT, UM, THE PRCA RODEO GET BACK ON ITS FEET.

WE SPONSOR, IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY OF BURLESON, THE SUPER SAFETY SATURDAY.

MANY OF YOU HAVE BEEN AT THAT EVENT SEEN A SUCCESS.

MEALS ON WHEELS OF JOHNSON AND ELLIS COUNTY.

WE SERVE AS MEMBERS OF THE DROWNING PREVENTION COALITION IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY OF BURLESON AND BURLESON BURLESON ISD.

UP UNTIL RECENTLY, I SERVED AS A MEMBER BOARD MEMBER OF THE HARVEST HOUSE OF BURLESON, AND WE WERE ALSO FINANCIAL SUPPORTERS OF HARVEST HOUSE.

HERE AT BURLESON, WE SERVE AS A CLINICAL PRECEPTOR SITE FOR NURSES AND MEDICAL STUDENTS.

SO NOT ONLY ARE WE PROVIDING EXCELLENT CARE TO OUR PATIENTS, WE'RE LOOKING TO GROW THE NEXT GENERATION OF HEALTH CARE PROFESSIONALS BY PRECEPTING NURSING AND MEDICAL STUDENTS.

SUPER SAFETY SATURDAY IS A COLLABORATION BETWEEN THE CITY OF BURLESON AND TEXAS HEALTH BURLESON.

IT'S REALLY A FOCUS ON COMMUNITY RISK REDUCTION AND KEEPING CHILDREN SAFE FROM COMMON PERILS.

SO THAT WOULD BE FIRE SAFETY, WATER SAFETY, GUN SAFETY, ANY OF THE THINGS THAT YOU WOULD WANT YOUR CHILDREN TO BE AWARE OF, THAT WOULD BE A DANGER TO THEM THAT WOULD PUT THEM IN THE EMERGENCY ROOM OR WORSE.

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WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE PROVIDING RESOURCES TO PARENTS TO MINIMIZE AND MITIGATE THAT RISK.

ATTENDEES ALWAYS RECEIVE A LIFE JACKET AND A BICYCLE HELMET AT NO COST TO THEM, AND WE HAVE AT LEAST 300IN ATTENDANCE ANNUALLY.

THAT DOES SOMETIMES APPROACH 400 OR 500 JUST REALLY DEPENDS ON THE WEATHER AND WHAT ELSE IS GOING ON IN THE CITY OF BURLESON.

SO AS I MENTIONED, WE ARE YOUR LOCAL EMERGENCY ROOM.

WE SEE APPROXIMATELY 22,000 PATIENTS ANNUALLY.

ALL PATIENTS ARE SEEN BY A BOARD CERTIFIED EMERGENCY MEDICINE PHYSICIAN, UNLIKE SOME OF OUR PARTNERS.

EXCUSE ME. UNLIKE SOME OF OUR COMPETITORS, WE DO NOT HAVE PHYSICIAN ASSISTANTS OR NURSE PRACTITIONERS WITH ER PRIVILEGES.

EVERY PERSON THAT COMES INTO THE EMERGENCY ROOM AT TEXAS HEALTH BURLESON IS SEEN BY A BOARD CERTIFIED EMERGENCY ROOM PHYSICIAN, OF WHICH TWO OF THOSE PHYSICIANS ARE IN THE AUDIENCE TONIGHT. IF YOU HAPPEN TO HAVE MEDICAL QUESTIONS OF THOSE 22,000 PATIENTS, WE TREAT AND RELEASE, ALSO KNOWN AS TREAT AND STREET.

95% OF THOSE PATIENTS, 5% OF THOSE PATIENTS REQUIRE A HIGHER LEVEL OF CARE, AS CHIEF DAVIS MENTIONED.

SO WE HAVE A AUTOMATIC ADMISSION PRIVILEGE TO TEXAS HEALTH FORT WORTH.

WE HAVE THE SAME LICENSE AND NATIONAL PROVIDER IDENTIFICATION NUMBER OF AS TEXAS HEALTH FORT WORTH.

SO WHEN YOU WALK IN TO THE EMERGENCY ROOM AT TEXAS HEALTH FORT WORTH, YOU'RE WALKING INTO THE EMERGENCY ROOM AT HARRIS HOSPITAL, FORT WORTH.

SO PATIENTS ARE DIRECTLY ADMITTED TO SURGERY, THE ICU, THE ICU OR PROGRESSIVE CARE UNIT, OR A MEDICAL SURGICAL FLOOR, DEPENDING ON THEIR ACUITY LEVEL.

AND AGAIN, CHIEF DAVIS MENTIONED TO YOU THE DIFFERENT ACUITY LEVELS THAT THAT WE CAN TRIAGE PATIENTS INTO BASED ON WHAT THE PHYSICIAN HAS DEEMED AS APPROPRIATE FOR THEM.

JUST A QUICK RUNDOWN OF THE TYPES OF PATIENTS THAT WE SEE IN THE EMERGENCY ROOM.

WE SEE ANYTHING FROM THE MOST MUNDANE OF INJURIES AND ILLNESSES, THE SNIFFLES AND THE SCRATCHES TO THE MOST SERIOUS OF ILLNESSES GUNSHOT WOUNDS, STABBINGS, TRAUMAS, STROKES, STEMS. I'VE LISTED ALL FOR YOU THE TOP ADMITTING DIAGNOSIS IN DESCENDING ORDER IN THE LAST 60 DAYS.

SO YOU CAN SEE THE MOST COMMON ADMITTING DIAGNOSIS IS RESPIRATORY DISTRESS OR FAILURE, FOLLOWED BY ABDOMINAL COMPLICATIONS, CARDIAC PROBLEMS. AND I'VE BROKEN THAT DOWN TO THE THREE MOST COMMON CARDIAC PROBLEMS THAT WE SEE TRAUMA, OF WHICH WE'VE SEEN 18 TRAUMA PATIENTS DIRECTLY ADMITTED TO TEXAS HEALTH FORT WORTH IN THE LAST 60 DAYS.

EMERGENCY SURGERY. SO THAT COULD BE AN EMERGENCY APPENDECTOMY.

AN EMERGENCY CHOLECYSTECTOMY, WHICH WOULD BE A GALLBLADDER REMOVAL.

IT COULD BE ANY OTHER EMERGENCY SURGERY THAT HAS THE PATIENT DIRECTLY ADMITTED TO THE OPERATING ROOM.

STROKE OR TIA, FOLLOWED BY ACUTE RENAL FAILURE WITHIN THE PATIENT WOULD NEED DIALYSIS.

AND THAT'S A SPECIALIZED PROCEDURE PERFORMED AT TEXAS HEALTH FORT WORTH.

AS CASEY MENTIONED, PATIENTS MUST MEET MEDICAL CRITERIA FOR ADMISSION AND THE ABSENCE OF THOSE CRITERIA.

PATIENTS ARE TREATED AND RELEASED HOME.

SO EVERYONE EVERY SINGLE PATIENT IS EVALUATED BY A PHYSICIAN.

THEIR LABS, RADIOLOGY SCANS ARE PERFORMED, AND THEN A DECISION MEDICAL DECISION IS MADE ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THEY NEED TO BE ADMITTED.

FOR OUR SICKEST AND MOST ACUTELY ILL PATIENTS, WE HAVE AN ON SITE HELIPAD FOR PATIENTS NEEDING URGENT AIR TRANSPORTATION TO OUR LOCAL TRAUMA CENTER, WHICH IS TEXAS HEALTH FORT WORTH, A LEVEL ONE TRAUMA CENTER.

WE UTILIZE THAT HELIPAD BETWEEN 12 AND 15 TIMES A YEAR.

IT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT IS COMMONLY USED, BUT WHEN WE NEED IT, WE CAN DISPATCH A CAREFLIGHT HELICOPTER TO BE ON OUR SITE WITHIN 12 TO 15 MINUTES.

AND IN THOSE KINDS OF PATIENTS, PATIENT CASES, TIME IS HEART, TIME IS BRAIN.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THOSE PATIENTS TAKEN CARE OF IN THE LAST 60 DAYS, JUST TO TELL YOU THE MOST SEVERE PATIENTS THAT WE'VE SEEN, PHYSICIANS AT TEXAS HEALTH BURLESON HAVE ADMITTED SIX PATIENTS TO THE ICU AND SIX PATIENTS TO THE PROGRESSIVE CARE UNIT.

I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, BUT I ALSO WANT TO MENTION THAT I DO APPRECIATE THE PARTNERSHIP THAT BURLESON, MS, AND CAREFLIGHT HAVE BROUGHT TO US IN A PREVIOUS STATE.

WE DID OFTEN FACE CHALLENGES WITH RESPONSE TIMES, WITH DWELL TIMES FOR OUR PATIENTS WAITING IN THE EMERGENCY ROOM FOR HIGHER LEVEL OF CARE.

OUR STAFF WILL ALWAYS PROVIDE EXCELLENT CARE WHEN THEY'RE IN OUR FACILITY, AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE RECEIVING THE HIGHEST POSSIBLE CARE WHEN THEY'RE WITH US.

BUT AFTER A PHYSICIAN DETERMINES THAT THEY NEED A HIGHER LEVEL OF CARE, AS I JUST MENTIONED, WE DO WANT TO GET THEM TAKEN TO THE MOST APPROPRIATE FACILITY QUICKLY. SO HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL HAVE.

YOU GOT A NEW FACILITY OPENED UP OVER THAT PLACE, DON'T YOU? SO THAT'S TEXAS HEALTH UGLY.

AND THAT IS THAT IS THE LOCATION RIGHT HERE OFF THE HIGHWAY WHERE TEXAS HEALTH BURLESON LOCATED AT THE BURLESON JOSHUA BORDER.

SO TEXAS HEALTH HUGULEY IS A PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN ADVENT HEALTH AND TEXAS HEALTH RESOURCES.

OKAY, 51% OWNED BY OTHER, 49% OWNED BY ADVENT HEALTH OUT OF FLORIDA.

IT IS. THE OPERATING PARTNER IS ADVENT HEALTH.

THE NAMING AND MAJORITY PARTNER IS TEXAS HEALTH RESOURCES.

SO OUR FACILITY IS OFF OF WILSHIRE, RIGHT NEXT TO THE CUTE AS YOU APPROACH THE BURLESON JOSHUA BORDER.

AND IT IS LICENSED UNDER TEXAS HEALTH FORT WORTH, WHICH IS THE 800 BED TERTIARY CARE FACILITY IN DOWNTOWN FORT WORTH.

YOUR NEW EMERGENCY ROOM.

THAT'S THE HOOGLY EMERGENCY ROOM.

YES, ABSOLUTELY.

AND IT'S OPENING IN JANUARY OF 24.

THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO HEAR.

LIKE YOU MENTIONED THAT A BREES FACILITY IS COMING TO BURLESON.

IS THAT CORRECT? IT'S COMING TO THE.

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IT MAY BE TECHNICALLY THE BURLESON AREA MAY BE TECHNICALLY IN THE CITY OF FORT WORTH GEOGRAPHICALLY, BUT IT IS ON THE BORDER OF BURLESON FORT WORTH, AND THAT IS SLATED FOR EARLY 2024.

OKAY, I WAS JUST CURIOUS.

UM, THAT SERVES MORE LIKE A, UM, CARE NOW TYPE.

CORRECT? CORRECT? YES, MA'AM. WOULD IT REQUIRE TRANSPORTS? SO SOME OF THOSE PATIENTS THINKING THAT THEY WANT TO AVOID AN EMERGENCY ROOM OR AVOID CALLING AN AMBULANCE BECAUSE OF THE COST OF DOING SO, THEY WOULD SHOW UP TO AN URGENT CARE. AND MAJORITY OF THE TIME THOSE PATIENTS CAN BE TREATED AND RELEASED.

BUT AS AN URGENT CARE HAS AS AS BURLESON IS LIMITED IN WHAT WE CAN PROVIDE.

URGENT CARES ARE EVEN MORE LIMITED.

SO THOSE WOULD BE YOUR YOUR LOWER ACUITY PATIENTS, YOUR STREP THROAT, YOUR YOUR LOWER ACUITY COVID, YOUR YOUR SCRAPES, YOUR CUTS, YOUR BRUISES, YOUR SUTURES, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.

THEY WILL BE OPEN 8 A.M.

TO 8 P.M.

MONDAY THROUGH SUNDAY, 365 DAYS A YEAR.

THEY DON'T CLOSE, BUT CURRENTLY, RIGHT NOW, THE CLOSEST LOCATION TO YOU IS ON BRYANT IRVIN, RIGHT NEXT TO THE SAM'S CLUB.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

AND JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON YOUR QUESTION, COUNCILMEMBER JOHNSON, THOSE KIND OF FACILITIES DON'T DO INTER-FACILITY TRANSFERS.

THOSE WOULD BE 911 CALLS.

WE RUN THOSE PERIODICALLY NOW AT DOCTOR'S OFFICES, PLACES LIKE CARENOW, STUFF LIKE THAT.

SO THOSE ARE THOSE ARE JUST 911 CALLS.

THEY DON'T THEY DON'T HAVE A INTER-FACILITY TRANSFER PROCESS SET UP FOR THOSE.

BECAUSE IF SOMEONE COME IN AND THEY'RE ACUTELY ILL LIKE THAT, THEN WE WOULD JUST TREAT IT LIKE IF THEY WERE AT HOME OR AT ANOTHER PLACE LIKE THAT.

SO, UH, NEXT UP, THOUGH, WE HAVE, UH, DOCTOR CORDOVA HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND SPEAK ON THIS TOPIC FOR US.

YEAH. UM, YEAH.

I'M JUST HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AFTER, UH, CASEY AND BLAKE, YOU HAVE ALL THESE THINGS THAT YOU MAY SAY, BUT I THINK THEY'VE PRETTY MUCH COVERED EVERYTHING.

UM, AS FAR AS FROM MY STANDPOINT, EVERYTHING HAS BEEN GOING REALLY WELL.

I THINK THAT THE GUYS HAVE SO MUCH ENERGY.

YOU CAN SEE HOW QUICKLY THE RESPONSE RATES ARE.

IT'S BEEN VERY BUSY THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS.

SO I THINK THAT WAS KIND OF THE CHALLENGE TO TRY TO GET USED TO THAT VOLUME.

AND THEN AS FAR AS THE INTER-FACILITY TRANSFER, I THINK THE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST CONSTANTLY JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT BEST PROCESS WILL BE.

THESE ARE ALL HAVE ALREADY BEEN EVALUATED.

THEY KNOW THAT THEY NEED TO BE ADMITTED TO A HOSPITAL.

SO IT'S AN EMERGENCY SITUATION.

AND JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE ACUITY LEVEL IS, HOW FAST THEY NEED TO GO.

UM, AND THAT'S REALLY I THINK THAT'S KIND OF IT.

I THINK THAT EVERYTHING'S PRETTY MUCH BEEN COVERED.

BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY MEDICAL QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS, JUST LET ME KNOW.

AS FAR AS THE BREEZE ONE. YEAH.

IF THERE'S SOMEBODY SICK, THEY USUALLY WILL SAY, HEY, WE RECOMMEND YOU GO TO THE HOSPITAL.

AND IF THEY'RE ACUTELY SICK, THEN IT'S A911 CALL.

SO YEAH. ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. THANK YOU, DOCTOR CORDOVA.

UM, SO JUST LASTLY, JUST A COUPLE OF KEY TAKEAWAYS AND SOME SUCCESSES THAT WE WANT TO JUST TOUT.

UM, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE REAL THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED IN OUR COMMUNITY.

WE WE HAD A NEAR DROWNING THAT HAD A REALLY INCREDIBLE OUTCOME.

UM, WE'VE DELIVERED A COUPLE OF BABIES AT THIS POINT, WHICH IS PRETTY AMAZING.

UM, WE'VE HAD TWO CPR SAVES THAT WE'RE AWARE OF, AND WE THINK THAT THERE MAY BE A COUPLE OF OTHERS THAT WE'RE WAITING ON SOME OUTCOMES ON THOSE TO COME BACK, BUT THESE ARE JUST REAL BIG, SIGNIFICANT THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED.

AND IT'S JUST A TESTAMENT TO OUR FOLKS AND AND HOW DEDICATED THEY ARE TO PROVIDE THAT SERVICE AND HOW DEDICATED OUR, OUR PUBLIC SAFETY COMMUNICATIONS DISPATCHERS ARE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THESE THIS INFORMATION IN TIMELY FASHION.

ONE LAST THING HERE IS WE'VE BEEN IN CONVERSATION WITH DOCTOR CORDOVA AND WITH, UH, BAYLOR SCOTT AND WHITE BURLESON IT'S THE LOCATION OF IT'S A SMALLER E.R.

THAT'S OVER THERE, KIND OF OFF OF 1187.

UM, WE HADN'T UTILIZED THAT FACILITY, BUT IT'S A NEW FACILITY THAT WE'RE GOING TO START UTILIZING TO TRY TO GET THE AMBULANCES TURNED AROUND EVEN QUICKER.

UM, THE NICE THING ABOUT THIS IS IT HAS IN EIGHT INPATIENT BEDS AS WELL.

SO BESIDES BEING AN EMERGENCY ROOM, THEY ALSO HAVE THE CAPABILITY TO ADMIT UP TO EIGHT PATIENTS AT THAT PARTICULAR FACILITY AS WELL.

SO IT'S A NEW RESOURCE TO US THAT WE'RE GOING TO START UTILIZING.

AND SO WE'RE JUST TRYING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO BE AS RESPONSIVE AS WE CAN TO THIS SYSTEM TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE AMBULANCES AVAILABLE.

AND WITH THAT, I'LL BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY OF YOUR QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.

SO CITIZENS COULD.

SO WHEN YOU WHEN YOU DO HAVE TO TRANSPORT A PATIENT FROM A911 CALL, THEY CAN CHOOSE WHICH FACILITY THEY WANT TO GO TO.

SO YOU'RE SAYING THIS BAYLOR SCOTT AND WHITE COULD BE AN IT WILL SOON BE AN ADDITIONAL LOCATION THAT A PATIENT COULD CHOOSE TO GO.

YES, THEY COULD CHOOSE TO GO THERE.

AND SO THE WAY WE HANDLE WHERE WE'RE TAKING SOMEBODY, OBVIOUSLY IT'S VERY SITUATION DEPENDENT.

SO REALLY OUR POLICY IS CLOSEST MOST APPROPRIATE FACILITY WITH PATIENT CHOICE IN MIND.

SO IF THEY DON'T HAVE SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, IF SOMEONE IS ACUTELY ILL LIKE THEY'RE WE'RE DOING CPR ON THEM, THEN WE'RE MORE THAN LIKELY NOT GOING TO PASS UP, YOU KNOW, UM,

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HUGUELY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

WE WILL GO THERE UNLESS THEY HAVE A SPECIALTY NEED LIKE A, UM, WE HAVE ECMO CRITERIA IS WHAT WE CALL IT, WHERE WE MAY TAKE SOMEONE DOWNTOWN FOR A SPECIAL MACHINE THAT CAN CIRCULATE THE BLOOD AND AIR IN THEIR LUNGS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

UM, OR TRAUMA, LIKE IF SOMEONE GOT IN A REALLY BAD CAR WRECK OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND THEY HAD SEVERE TRAUMA, WE WOULD GO DOWNTOWN TO JPS OR HARRIS BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE SURGE, THE TRAUMA SURGEONS ON TO TO TAKE CARE OF THAT.

SO WE'RE JUST, UH, YOU KNOW, IF A PATIENT WANTS TO GO TO A PLACE THAT'S NOT APPROPRIATE, WE JUST TRY TO EXPLAIN THAT TO THEM.

THE WHY, UM, AND THEN PATIENT CHOICE IN MIND, IF IT'S A HOSPITAL THAT'S ON OUR APPROVED LIST, THAT'S IN THE FORT WORTH, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY THE DOWNTOWN HOSPITALS THAT WE HAVE HERE, WE HAVE ONE OVER IN MANSFIELD THAT'S JUST AS CLOSE AS THE ONES TO DOWNTOWN FORT WORTH THAT WE CAN TRANSPORT TO AS WELL, AND THEN OBVIOUSLY TO DR.

BURLESON OR TO CLEBURNE.

BUT TYPICALLY THE MAJORITY OF OUR CALL VOLUME IS GOING TO HOOGLI OR TO THE DOWNTOWN HOSPITALS.

SO. GOOD QUESTION THOUGH.

ANYTHING ELSE? MAYOR AND COUNCIL I DO HAVE SPEAKER CARDS FOR THIS ITEM.

THE FIRST SPEAKER CARD I HAVE IS A GENTRY COTTON.

YOU TURN. OH.

I'M SORRY. ONE, ONE LAST THING.

UM, THAT I FORGOT TO MENTION.

SORRY ABOUT THAT.

WE HAVE TWO FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS THAT WE WANT TO BRING BACK TO YOU.

SORRY, I ALMOST MISSED BRINGING THIS UP.

UM, ONE IS THAT, UM, WE NEED TO UPDATE OUR FEE SCHEDULE, POTENTIALLY.

WHENEVER I WAS TALKING THROUGH THE EMERGENCY AND NON-EMERGENCY, UM, UM, TRANSPORTS, SOMETIMES A CALL CAN COME IN FROM, LIKE, A REHAB OR NURSING HOME FACILITY, AND IT'S NOT REALLY CLEAR IF IT IS A TRANSPORT OR A911 CALL.

AND SO SOMETIMES WE'LL FIND OURSELVES ON THOSE CALLS AND FIND OUT LATER THAT IT ACTUALLY IS AN INTER FACILITY TRANSFER, AND IT COULD BE A NON-EMERGENCY TRANSFER.

SAME THING WITH TEXAS HEALTH BURLESON EVEN THOUGH IT NEEDS TO GO FROM ONE FACILITY TO ANOTHER, SOMETIMES IN THE BILLING PROCESS IT GETS DOWNGRADED TO A NON-EMERGENCY.

WE JUST DON'T HAVE THAT BAKED INTO OUR FEE SCHEDULE AT THIS POINT.

THAT WAS NEVER OUR INTENTION OR PLAN TO DO THOSE, BUT WE'RE FINDING THAT WE MAY JUST FIND OURSELVES ON THOSE, SO WE NEED TO PUT THAT INTO OUR FEE SCHEDULE.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING TO BRING BACK AT A AT A LATER DATE.

THE OTHER THING QUICKLY TO MENTION IS TEXAS HEALTH BURLESON DOES WHAT THEY CALL A PAYER OF LAST RESORT CONTRACT, AND WE DON'T HAVE THAT IN PLACE YET.

UM, AND WHAT THAT DOES IS IF A PATIENT'S INSURANCE DOESN'T PAY OR SOMEONE DOESN'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO PAY, TEXAS HEALTH BURLESON WANTS TO BE COMMITTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE RESOURCES COMING THERE ARE TAKEN CARE OF FINANCIALLY.

SO THEY DO A PAIR OF LAST RESORT, AND THEY BASE THAT OFF OF THE MEDICAID RATES, MEDICAID, MEDICAID, MEDICARE RATES.

AND THAT'S A STANDARD CONTRACT THAT THEY THEY HAVE WITH CAREFLIGHT AND OTHER SOME OTHER PROVIDERS AS WELL.

AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE WOULD LIKE TO BRING BACK TO COUNCIL AS WELL, JUST TO TALK THROUGH THAT.

SO WHEN WE FIND OURSELVES IN THOSE SITUATIONS, WE CAN TRY TO RECOUP THOSE COSTS AS WELL.

SO SORRY ABOUT FORGETTING THAT.

MAYOR COUNCIL, THANK YOU, CHIEF, FOR THE PRESENTATION.

I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD INFORMATION THAT WAS PROVIDED THERE.

UM, HOWEVER, I STILL DO HAVE A CONCERNS.

UH, FOR THIS, I THINK WHAT WE HEARD IT TONIGHT IS THAT THERE'S A LOT MORE CALL VOLUME OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS THAN THERE WAS ANTICIPATED.

AND WHAT I'M SEEING IS THAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IS CONTINUING TO BE INVOLVED IN INTER-FACILITY TRANSFERS.

AND IF YOU LOOK AT FIRE DEPARTMENTS AROUND THE AREA, BURLESON IS ONE OF THE ONLY FIRE DEPARTMENTS THAT I COULD FIND THAT HAS AN INTER-FACILITY TRANSFER LICENSE.

MS LICENSE. WHY IS THAT? I THINK IT'S BECAUSE IT DOES SHOW THAT THESE DO PUT A STRAIN ON CALL VOLUME, AND IT PUTS A STRAIN ON THE FIRE DEPARTMENT ON THE RESOURCES.

I MEAN, I DON'T DISAGREE WITH WHAT CHIEF DAVIS ASKED FOR MORE RESOURCES FROM THE CITY MANAGER BECAUSE I THINK IT'S NEEDED, BECAUSE, I MEAN, SOME DAYS THEY'RE RESPONDING TO DOING 16 TRANSPORTS A DAY, WHICH IS INCREDIBLE.

BUT WHAT WE SAW FROM CAREFLIGHT'S DATA IS THAT 105 TIMES THE CAREFLIGHT AMBULANCE SHOWED UP AT A CITY OF BURLESON RESIDENT'S HOUSE INSTEAD OF A BURLESON AMBULANCE. THAT SHOULD TELL US THAT WE SHOULD NOT BE STILL DOING THESE TRANSFERS.

WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THIS.

WE DON'T HAVE TO CONTINUE TO DO THESE TRANSFERS.

THIS IS AN OPTIONAL THING, AND I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT HR LOVES THE PARTNERSHIP BECAUSE YES, IT DOES PROVIDE A BETTER, UM, PATIENT EXPERIENCE FOR THEIR PATIENTS.

BUT THE CITY OF BURLESON IS SHOULDERING THESE RESPONSIBILITIES THAT IT SHOULD NOT BE SHOULDERING.

AND FOR THAT, LIKE I SAID, I BELIEVE THAT IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE BURLESON FIRE DEPARTMENT SHOULD STOP THESE TRANSFERS, REEVALUATE THEIR THEIR RESOURCES AND GIVE IT A BREAK, AND THEN COME BACK AND CAREFULLY REVIEW WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO, BECAUSE THERE'S THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF, UM, A

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LOT OF CALLS THAT HAVE COME OUT.

I, YOU KNOW, I KNOW I'M SAYING THIS MONDAY MORNING QUARTERBACK SO I WOULDN'T BE, UH, I'LL BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T SAY THAT.

ALTHOUGH, YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE ALL THE HARD WORK THAT THE FIREFIGHTERS HAVE BEEN DOING AND CHIEF DAVIS HAS BEEN DOING, BECAUSE I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN A TASK, I THINK, OVER A LONG TERME, THE THE EMS SYSTEM FOR BURLESON IS GOING TO BE GREAT.

AND I THINK IT'S IT'S ALREADY DOING A LOT OF GREAT THINGS.

BUT, UM, WE HAVE AN OPTION TO NOT DO THE ANY INTERFACILITY TRANSFERS.

I THINK IT NEEDS TO STOP.

THANK YOU. I'M SORRY I MISSED YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AT THE BEGINNING.

WHAT WAS IT? IT'S GENTRY COTTON.

OKAY. NEXT UP IS BILL JANISCH.

JANUARY 1ST 17. NORTHEAST CLINTON I APPRECIATE A LOT OF WHAT JANUARY JUST HAD TO SAY.

I MEAN, THAT'S A LOT OF MY CONCERNS, TOO.

UM, I ATTEND ALL THESE COUNCIL MEETINGS.

I ATTEND SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETINGS, UH, FOR REASONS OF PICKING UP ON A SMALL TALK.

I REMEMBER CHIEF FREEMAN, UH, SPEAKING ABOUT BASICALLY SELLING US A BILL OF GOODS, WHICH I WANT TO HOLD THE CITY ACCOUNTABLE TO.

THAT'S, UH, WHEN BURLESON MS IS GOING TO SHOW UP.

IT'S GOING TO BE PEOPLE WE WENT TO SCHOOL WITH THAT WE GREW UP WITH OUR NEIGHBORS, YOU KNOW, OTHER CITIZENS, PEOPLE THAT WOULD PUT THAT EXTRA LITTLE BIT OF EFFORT, YOU KNOW, IN CARE, UH, FOR THESE TRANSFERS, UH, EMERGENCY SERVICES, WHATEVER.

WE HEAR RUMBLINGS AND STUFF.

YOU ALWAYS HEAR SMALL TALK, GOSSIP, STUFF LIKE THAT.

I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

UH, MISTER DAVIS, IF YOU'D LIKE TO ANSWER.

HAS DURING ANY OF THIS TIME, HAVE WE BEEN ANY OF OUR ALL OF OUR AMBULANCES BEEN OUT WHERE WE HAD ZERO LEFT? UH, YES, WE DO GO LEVEL ZERO SOMETIMES THROUGHOUT THE SYSTEM, AND THAT'S ANTICIPATED.

BUT THANKFULLY, TODAY WE'VE ONLY HAD TO CALL MUTUAL AID IN TWICE FROM THE CITY OF CROWLEY.

UM, BESIDES THE SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE.

SO WE'RE MONITORING THAT AND WE PAY CLOSE ATTENTION TO THAT.

YEAH. AND I CAN SEE THAT BECAUSE THERE WAS A MAJOR WRECK OR SOME KIND OF CATASTROPHE.

WE'VE ONLY GOT FOUR.

SO THERE IS A TIME WE COULD BE DEPLETED.

AND I'M WONDERING DOES WHEN CARE OR SOMEBODY LIKE THAT OR WHEN WE HAVE 3 OR 4 OUT DOES CAREFLIGHT COME AND RESTAFF EACH? UM, SO GREAT QUESTION.

UM, CAREFLIGHT'S BEEN A GREAT PARTNER AND A LOT OF TIMES WHENEVER WE GET BUSY OR WE NOTICE THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE CLOSE TO GOING LEVEL ZERO, OR WE DO GO LEVEL ZERO, WE BRING A MEDIC 41 OUT OF CLAYBURNE COMES UP TO TO HELP SUPPORT US AS WELL.

AND THAT'S BEEN THAT'S WORKED OUT WELL FOR US.

YEAH. PERSONALLY IN THE PAST I'VE HAD TO GO MEDSTAR BEFORE AND I'VE BEEN ON OTHER JOB SITES OR EATING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

WHEN 911 CALLS, THEY'VE HAD TO COME IN AND I DO REMEMBER THEIR RESPONSE TIMES.

AND THAT WAS ANOTHER THING THAT WE WERE SOLD ON A BILL OF GOODS.

AND LIKE I SAID, I WANT TO HOLD, YOU KNOW, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND I, I HAVE ALL THE RESPECT FOR YOU GUYS.

UM, BUT LIKE I SAID, SOME OF THESE CONVERSATIONS I HAD WITH CHIEF FREEMAN, THEY WERE SITTING IN THE BACK, BACK HERE THREE DIFFERENT TIMES.

AND I KIND OF FELT AFTER I HEARD MORE SPEECHES, LIKE SOMEBODY WAS PLAYING A THREE CARD MONTE GAME WITH US, CHANGING UP HOW THEY WERE GOING TO HANDLE THINGS.

I DIDN'T APPRECIATE THAT.

YOU KNOW HOW IT DOES, BUT WHAT IT'S GOING TO DO, IT'S GOING TO COULD COME DOWN TO AFFECT SOMEBODY'S LIFE.

AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY'S LIFE IS, YOU KNOW, IMPORTANT.

ABSOLUTELY. AND IF THERE'S SOMETHING I CAN EVER DO OR SAY OR SOMETHING I CAN'T, I DON'T MINCE WORDS WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO IT.

I'LL SAY WHAT NEEDS TO BE SAID.

NO, SIR. I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT.

AND TO JUST REMIND EVERYONE, ALL OF OUR FIRE APPARATUS HAVE MS EQUIPMENT ON THEM AS WELL, JUST LIKE WE DID BEFORE WE MOVED TO OUR AMBULANCE SERVICE.

SO THEY WILL IMMEDIATELY BE RESPONDING IF AVAILABLE AND THEN WE CAN UTILIZE.

WE STILL HAVE A MUTUAL AID CONTRACT WITH MEDSTAR AND WITH THE CITY OF CROWLEY, AND THEN ALSO OUR PARTNERS WITH CAREFLIGHT.

SO YEAH, AND I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THE THE EMS GUYS YOU HAVE THROUGHOUT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

AND ONE OTHER QUESTION I CAN THINK OF COUPONS.

PEOPLE GO OUT TO EAT WITH COUPONS AND STUFF.

YOU GOT PEOPLE WITH MEDSTAR MEMBERSHIPS CAREFLIGHT MEMBERSHIPS.

I KNOW BURLESON DOESN'T HAVE ONE.

IF THERE WAS A CASE OF A 911 CALL WHERE IT WAS AN EMERGENCY SITUATION AND THE PERSON DEMANDED TO HAVE ONE OF THEIR MEMBERSHIP CARDS USED, EITHER MEDSTAR CAREFLIGHT OR WHOEVER, WHAT DO YOU GUYS DO IN A CASE LIKE THAT? SO WE DIDN'T.

THE CITY OF BURLESON DOESN'T HAVE A MEMBERSHIP PROGRAM.

WE'RE MONITORING THAT FOR SIX MONTH PERIOD.

THERE WAS A NEW SENATE BILL THAT CAME OUT BACK IN SEPTEMBER THAT DID AWAY WITH BALANCE BILLING.

AND SO OUR BILLING ADVISORS HAVE SAID AT THIS POINT THAT THEY WOULD RECOMMEND AGAINST THAT, BECAUSE THE PRACTICE OF BALANCE BILLING IS WHAT THAT PROTECTS PATIENTS FROM. UM, SO AT THIS POINT, WE'RE MONITORING THAT AND WE'RE HAPPY TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL AT SOME POINT WITH SOME OPTIONS.

YEAH. AND I FULLY TRUST YOU.

AND I THINK YOU, YOU WOULD MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION ON THIS.

UH, LIKE I SAID, SOME WORDS WERE, UH, MIXED BEFORE, YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T KNOW WHICH DIRECTION WAS THIS GOING TO GO.

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I'VE GOT FRIENDS THAT ARE FIREMEN, FRIENDS THAT ARE FORMER FIREMEN HERE AND STUFF.

I GOT YOU HERE ALL THE SMALL TALK AND STUFF, YOU KNOW, DISGRUNTLED PEOPLE.

UH, LIKE I SAID, I HAD CONCERNS WITH THAT.

AND, UH, YOU KNOW, I HOPE THAT YOU'LL KNOW THAT I'LL BE HOLDING YOU GUYS ACCOUNTABLE.

BUT ANYBODY ELSE WITHIN THE CITY RANKS.

AND I DO APPRECIATE ALL YOU GUYS.

SERVICE. THANKS. THANK YOU FOR THAT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS I CAN ANSWER? I HAVE MORE SPEAKER CARDS.

ANOTHER SPEAKER CARD. UH, JOE GROSSMAN.

MAYOR COUNCILMAN. CHIEF DAVIS.

MY NAME IS JOE GROSSMAN, 1620 TAYLOR RIDGE COURT.

I HAVE BEEN A FIREFIGHTER AND PARAMEDIC FOR NEARLY TWO DECADES NOW.

I CURRENTLY AM A LIEUTENANT FOR THE CITY OF ARLINGTON.

UM, I'VE WORKED OTHER DEPARTMENTS SMALLER, SIMILAR TO THE SIZE OF BURLESON THAT RAN THEIR OWN AMBULANCE SERVICE, AND I'VE EVEN WORKED PRIVATE AMBULANCE SERVICES.

CHIEF, I GIVE YOU CREDIT.

INITIALLY, I HAD SOME CONCERNS ABOUT HOW THE INTER-FACILITY TRANSFER WAS INITIALLY ROLLED OUT.

UM, SPEAKING WITH GUYS AND I ALSO TEACH AT THE COLLEGE AT TARRANT COUNTY COLLEGE OF THE FIRESIDE.

HUGE, HUGE, HUGE GRAPEVINE.

AND THEY HAD TOLD ME AT CERTAIN POINTS THAT THE AMBULANCES WERE INITIALLY ALL FOUR AMBULANCES WERE OUT ON INTER-FACILITY TRANSFERS.

MY CONCERN WITH THAT IS INTER-FACILITY TRANSFERS.

I'M PROUD TO LIVE IN BURLESON AND THAT WE HAVE AMBULANCES NOW WITH PARAMEDICS.

LIKE I SAID, I'VE BEEN ONE FOR 20 YEARS, SO I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU ALL DO.

UM, WITH THE INTER-FACILITY TRANSFERS, WHAT THAT DOES IS IT TAKES AWAY AND IT CAN AFFECT THE RESPONSE TIME OF THESE 911 CALLS.

SO YOUR INTER-FACILITY TRANSFERS ARE YOUR NON-EMERGENCY, YOU KNOW, SCHEDULED DOCTOR'S APPOINTMENTS OR THEY NEED A SURGERY OR THEY CAN'T WALK.

CERTAIN DESCRIPTIONS THAT THEY SAID WERE WERE VERY ACCURATE WITH WHAT THEY GAVE.

BUT THERE'S A REASON THAT ONLY ONE OTHER CITY IN THE METROPLEX DOES IN-FACILITY TRANSFERS.

AND THAT'S BECAUSE OF THE EFFECT OF RESPONSE TIMES AND WHAT IT TAKES AWAY FROM THE CITIZENS.

I'M PAYING TAXES FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, AND I DON'T KNOW ALL THE FINANCIAL SIDE OF THE CITY, BUT FIRE DEPARTMENTS ARE FAIRLY UNFUNDED LIABILITY BECAUSE WE DON'T CREATE NEW REVENUE. AND THERE'S AN OLD SAYING IN THE FIRE SERVICE THAT 911 SAVES LIVES, TRANSFERS MAKE MONEY.

AND I WAS WORRIED THAT WE WERE PRIORITIZING MONEY OVER SAVING LIVES WITH THE AMBULANCE SERVICE.

LIKE I SAID, WITH WHAT THEY'VE DONE NOW, WHERE THEY'RE NO LONGER THE PRIMARY INTER-FACILITY.

UM, IT DOES MAKE ME FEEL BETTER ABOUT IT, BUT ANY INTER-FACILITY TRANSFERS CREATES A CONCERN, BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS NOW IS, IF, YOU KNOW, I'M PAYING FOR THAT INSURANCE, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, THE PARAMEDICS ARE INSURANCE POLICY FOR THE CITY.

FOR THOSE BAD TIMES, WE HAVE THAT 1 OR 2 OUT ON AN INTER-FACILITY TRANSFER AND THEN TWO MORE CALLS GO OUT.

NOW WE'RE HAVING TO CALL SOMEONE UP FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE TO HELP FUND THAT, OR TO HELP TAKE UP THE SLACK, IF YOU WILL.

I DON'T KNOW HOW CAREFLIGHT'S TRAINED PER SE.

I DO KNOW THAT THERE'S GENERALLY A HIGHER TURNOVER RATE IN PRIVATE EMS, WHICH AFFECTS THE LEVEL OF TRAINING, AND NOT ALL OF THEM PER SE, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A WHOLE LOT MORE TENURE AND STEADINESS WITH YOUR FIRE DEPARTMENT AMBULANCES RESPONDING TO YOUR 911 CALLS IF THEY ARE BEING PULLED FOR THOSE NON FACILITY OR EXCUSE ME, THESE INTER-FACILITY NON-EMERGENCY TRANSFERS YOU'RE SENDING A PARAMEDIC WHO HAS TWO YEARS OF SCHOOLING HAS TRAINING SIMILAR TO AN ANESTHESIOLOGIST.

A RESPIRATORY THERAPIST HAS ALL THE SAME CAPABILITIES IN A CPR AS A HOSPITAL DOES TO TAKE A NON-EMERGENCY PERSON TO A NON-EMERGENCY SPOT, INSTEAD OF THOSE SERVICES AND THOSE POTENTIAL THINGS THAT WE NEED BEING HERE IN TIME AND BE ABLE TO RESPOND ON A TIMELY FASHION.

LIKE I SAID, ONCE AGAIN, CREDIT FOR Y'ALL FOR REARRANGING THAT.

UM, BUT IT WAS A BIG CONCERN.

AND IT WENT IT SPREAD LIKE WILDFIRE THROUGHOUT THE FIRE SERVICE THAT BURLESON WAS DOING THAT AND EVERYONE WAS KIND OF JAW DROPPED THAT THAT HAPPENS BECAUSE THE PRECEDENT HAS BEEN SET THAT MUNICIPALITIES OR CITY RAN FIRE DEPARTMENTS AND AMBULANCES CAN'T AFFORD TO DO INTER-FACILITY TRANSFERS BECAUSE THE AMOUNT OF CALL VOLUME, AS THE CALL VOLUME INCREASES, YOU ARE TAKING YOUR SPRINTERS AND MAKING THEM RUN MILES BEFORE THEY ACTUALLY HAVE THEIR SPRINT CALLS, IF YOU WILL, FOR FOR A LACK OF A BETTER ANALOGY. AND THAT'S MY CONCERN, BECAUSE IF CHIEF AND YOU MAYBE ANSWER THIS, WILL THEY DO A NON-EMERGENCY TRANSFER AT FOUR IN THE MORNING? SO OUR GOAL IS TO NOT DO ANY NON-EMERGENCY TRANSFERS.

OUR GOAL IS FOR CAREFLIGHT TO BE FIRST UP FOR ALL INTER-FACILITY TRANSFERS, WHETHER THAT'S NON-EMERGENCY OR NOT.

WE AND WE NEVER SET THE SYSTEM UP THAT WAY.

WE WERE NOT GOING TO RUN THE NON-EMERGENCY OUT OF THE NURSING HOME THOSE KIND OF.

AND WE HAVE FOUND OURSELVES ON SOME OF THOSE BECAUSE THEY COME IN LIKE THEY'RE A911 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CONTINUE TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH THOSE FACILITIES AND HELP THAT PROCESS.

BUT NO, THAT'S NOT OUR GOAL.

THAT'S NOT OUR PRIMARY OBJECTIVE.

UM, I FORGOT TO MENTION BRANT STOVALL FROM CAREFLIGHT IS HERE AS WELL.

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IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS FOR BRANT, UM, HE CAN SPEAK ON CAREFLIGHT AND THEIR PROCESSES.

UM, BUT, UH, SO THEY'RE THEY'RE FIRST UP FOR ALL OF THAT.

REALLY, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS BE AVAILABLE FOR THE TIME SENSITIVE, UH, HIGH ACUITY STUFF THAT WOULD COME OUT OF TEXAS HEALTH BURLESON OR OUR.

WE ALSO HAVE ANOTHER, UM, SMALLER STANDALONE E.R.

HERE IN TOWN.

UM, THAT WE WOULD BE IMMEDIATELY AVAILABLE FOR THOSE IF THEY HAD, YOU KNOW, A TIME SENSITIVE CONDITION AS WELL.

UM, SO I HOPE THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION.

YES. AND WHEN YOU SAY TIME SENSITIVE, JUST FOR Y'ALL'S UNDERSTANDING, GENERALLY THAT'S SIMILAR AND TREATED LIKE A 911 CALL.

IF YOU CALLED FROM YOUR HOUSE, YOU SHOW UP TO THE HOSPITAL, HEY, WE DON'T HAVE THE STUFF HERE AT THIS PARTICULAR STANDALONE E.R.

TO TAKE CARE OF YOU. WE NEED YOU TO GO FAST.

THAT'S STILL AN EMERGENCY CALL.

THAT'S NOT THE CONCERN.

IT'S THE.

HEY, I'VE GOT SURGERY OR REHAB.

I NEED TO GO HERE.

WELL, LIKE I SAID, YOU'RE. SENDING A HIGHLY TRAINED, SKILLED PARAMEDIC TO BASICALLY BE A MEDICAL TAXI.

I DON'T AGREE WITH THAT.

I WANT MY TAXES. I KNOW WHAT I KNOW WHAT THIS JOB IS.

YOU KNOW, WE WE TALK ABOUT, UM, A MARGIN OF ERROR.

YOU KNOW, A MARGIN OF ERROR FOR A PARAMEDIC IS ZERO.

ALL RIGHT? AND A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD FIND THAT UNREALISTIC IN ANY OTHER JOB.

BUT ULTIMATELY, WHEN SOMETHING GOES WRONG, THAT'S THE MARGIN OF ERROR THAT WE ARE JUDGED ON, YOU KNOW? AND SO I WOULD RATHER ALL THAT BE FOCUSED IN ON THE EMERGENCY 911 CALLS THAN SOME OF THE NON-EMERGENCY INTERFACILITY CALLS, WHERE THEY'RE NOT TIME SENSITIVE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UH, I HAVE ANOTHER SPEAKER CARD, UH, MIKE JONES.

THIS IS. MAYOR COUNCIL MIKE JONES, PRESIDENT, LOCAL 405.

I JUST WANT TO, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH EVERYBODY UP HERE.

AND JUST KIND OF WANTED TO TOUCH BASE TO LET YOU GUYS KNOW WHERE WE'RE AT.

UM, THAT, UH, WE'VE HAD VERY OPEN DIALOG WITH CHIEF DAVIS, CHIEF JACOBS AND CITY MANAGER LUDWIG.

UM, ON ON THIS AND, UM, AS OF, LIKE THEY SAID AS OF LAST WEDNESDAY.

UH, CITY MANAGER WOULD ACTUALLY REACHED OUT TO ME.

UM, AND HAD A VERY GOOD OPEN DIALOG ABOUT, YOU KNOW, FIREFIGHTERS AND WHERE WE'RE AT MORALE WISE AND HOW THINGS ARE GOING AND MADE THE DECISION TO GO WHERE, UM, OUR FIREFIGHTERS ARE ABLE TO STAY IN THE HOUSE BECAUSE THAT WAS SOME OF THE CONCERNS FROM THE ASSOCIATION STANDPOINT.

UM, WAS CREW CONTINUITY IN THOSE KIND OF THINGS.

AND SO I JUST THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR YOU GUYS TO HEAR THAT THERE IS OPEN DIALOG GOING ON.

AND EVEN THOUGH WE CAN'T GET OUT THERE PUBLIC A LOT, WE DO HAVE A VERY OPEN RELATIONSHIP WITH CHIEF DAVIS, CHIEF JACOBS AND, UH, CITY MANAGER ON IT.

AND THEY HEAR US OBVIOUSLY, UM, AND MAKE CHANGES FOR WHAT'S BEST FOR THE CITIZENS AND FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

SO, UM, LIKE I SAID, WE'RE, UM, WITH THE CHANGES HAPPENING, WE'RE GOOD WITH IT.

NOT THAT WE WANT TO TAKE CARE OF EVERYBODY, BUT WE DO.

LIKE CHIEF DAVIS SAID IN HIS PRESENTATION, YOU KNOW, WE GOT FIREFIGHTERS THAT WHEN THEY'RE ON THE AMBULANCE, IF WE CAN GET PATIENTS THERE UTILIZING CAREFLIGHT, YOU KNOW, AND THEY CAN GET OUT THERE IN A TIMELY MANNER BECAUSE THEY'RE SICK AND THEY NEED THINGS TOO.

THAT'S GREAT. AND THEN BUT WE STILL HAVE FIREFIGHTERS HERE.

UH, WHEN THOSE WRECKS DO COME IN THAT, YOU KNOW, EXTRICATIONS OR ON A STRUCTURE FIRE, THOSE KIND OF THINGS BECAUSE THEY DO BECOME PART OF OUR, OUR, UH, MUSTERING FOR A FIRE.

SO, AGAIN, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR YOU GUYS TO HEAR FROM US THAT WE DO HAVE AN OPEN DIALOG WITH EVERYONE AND WE'RE BEING BEING HEARD.

AND WE APPRECIATE YOU, CITY MANAGER, FOR FOR REACHING OUT AND TALKING WITH US.

AND LIKE I SAID, WE JUST LOOK FORWARD FOR, AS YOU SEE, SOME OF THE GREAT THINGS WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO FOR THE CITIZENS.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? CASEY JUST LOOKED AT ME LIKE, DO YOU HAVE ANOTHER SPEAKER CARD? OH NO, I APOLOGIZE.

I HAVE NOTHING UNDER MY I HAVE NOTHING IN MY SLEEVES.

NO, I HAVE NO OTHER SPEAKER CARDS.

OH, I WANT TO COMMEND OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT AND OUR PUBLIC SAFETY COMMUNICATIONS FOR THE DIVE IN THAT THIS HAS BEEN.

I KNOW IT TOOK A NUMBER OF YEARS OR TWO YEARS OF PREPARATION AND GETTING READY, AND THIS PROGRAM IS STILL IN ITS INFANCY STAGE.

AND I APPRECIATE HOW AGGRESSIVE WE'RE BEING IN REVIEWING WHAT IS WORKING.

BUT ULTIMATELY, WE MADE THIS DECISION TO CARE FOR OUR CITIZENS FIRST.

AND I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THERE WAS A PERSON UP HERE WHO SUPPORTED TAKING ON THIS ENORMOUS SERVICE INCREASE FOR MONETARY REASONS.

IF THERE WAS A WAY TO PROVIDE IT AT NO COST, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE IDEAL.

UNFORTUNATELY, WE THERE'S ADDITIONAL SERVICES THAT THIS THAT ADDS TO AN INCREASE OF COST THAT WE TRY TO RECOUP SOME OF THAT IF YOU HAVE A TRANSPORT.

BUT UM, ULTIMATELY IT WAS ABOUT TAKING CARE OF OUR CITIZENS.

AND SO WE NOT ONLY DO WE HAVE VERY WELL TRAINED PARAMEDIC AND EMS, UM, CAPABILITIES, BUT THESE ARE

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FIRST AND FOREMOST OUR FIREFIGHTERS AS WELL.

SO IN THOSE EVENTS OF A CAR ACCIDENT OR A STRUCTURE FIRE, IT'S OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE THERE STILL THOSE ROLES AS WELL.

AND THEY'RE JUST DRIVING IN A DIFFERENT VEHICLE.

SO, UM, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE TAKING CARE OF CITIZENS AND ALSO THE FIREFIGHTERS.

SOMETHING THAT I VOICED A NUMBER OF TIMES WAS BURNOUT AND OVEREXTENSION.

WE WANT THAT TEN YEAR.

WE WANT OUR WE HAVE A FAIRLY YOUNG FIRE DEPARTMENT NOW.

WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS RETIRING.

AND SO WE WANT THESE THAT ARE FOLLOWING THOSE FOOTSTEPS TO STAY WITH OUR DEPARTMENT FOR THE ENTIRETY OF THEIR CAREER.

AND THE WAY WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO KEEP THEM IS BY TAKING CARE OF THEM AND, UM, AND NOT OVEREXTENDING THEM WHERE WE DON'T HAVE TO.

AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WHEN AND IF A BURLESON CITIZEN NEEDS THAT SERVICE, THEY'RE GETTING THAT WHICH WE PROMISED THEM, WHICH WAS A, YOU KNOW, THAT FAMILIAR FACE THAT, UM, HIGHLY TRAINED, THAT WELL SUPPORTED, HAS A, YOU KNOW, A STRUCTURE OF COMMAND WHERE THEY'VE GOT ADDITIONAL BACKUPS.

THAT'S ALL THE SELLING POINTS THAT HELPED US MAKE THIS DECISION.

AND SO WE JUST IT'S TWOFOLD.

UM, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A PROGRAM THAT'S TOP NOTCH, BUT WE CAN'T RUN IT RAGGED.

AND IT HAS TO MAKE SENSE.

AND SO, UM, I APPRECIATE THAT YOU'RE REVIEWING THE NUMBER OF CALLS, WHAT THOSE CALLS ARE LOOKING LIKE AND NOT PRIORITIZING OR PRIORITIZING 911 CALLS OVER TRANSPORTS.

BECAUSE WHILE THOSE MAY STILL BE BURLESON CITIZENS THAT NEED OUR NEED OUR SERVICES JUST AS MUCH, WE STILL HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT FIREFIGHTERS ARE AVAILABLE FOR SPECIFIC CALLS TOO.

SO I APPRECIATE THE THE EVALUATIONS THAT ARE TAKING PLACE AND THE CONTINUATION OF.

THOSE AND JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO EVERYONE.

THAT'S PROVIDING A TREMENDOUS SERVICE.

I TOO HAVE ONLY HEARD AMAZING THINGS, THE RESPONSE TIMES AND UM, I'VE SEEN AND WITNESSED A COUPLE OF THE CALLS.

AND SO I JUST REALLY WANT TO COMMEND YOU ALL AND SAY THANKS.

AND THANK YOU SO MUCH TO ASHLEY AND THAT AWESOME CREW THAT TAKES THE CALLS AND IS OUR FIRST, UM, FIRST LINE.

SO THANK YOU ALL.

YES. I APPRECIATE Y'ALL'S ADAPTABILITY TO BE ABLE, BECAUSE YOU CAN SEE IN 75 DAYS WE'VE ALREADY MADE IT, MADE A FEW CHANGES.

YES, SIR. AND BUT I WOULD LIKE PROBABLY AT THE END OF JANUARY MAYBE LET'S BRING THE DATA AGAIN SINCE NOW WE'RE RUNNING, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OTHER OPTIONS WE HAVE PASSED THIS OTHER THAN NOT DOING TRANSPORTS.

SO JUST TO SEE WHERE WE WOULD BE, MAYBE GIVE IT 45 DAYS AFTER THE END OF JANUARY, MAYBE IN FEBRUARY, BRING UP AN UPDATE IF THAT'S OKAY, AND WE'LL DO THAT.

LOOKING AT IF THERE ARE ANY ADDITIONAL THINGS, PARTNERSHIPS WE COULD LOOK AT OR MUTUAL AID AGREEMENTS TO COVER THOSE CALLS, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE SOME OF SOME OTHER OPTIONS THAT WE COULD CONSIDER TO ENSURE THAT BFD'S HERE FIRST, AND COVERING THESE ROLES FIRST AND THEN AND UNDERSTAND WHAT OUR OBLIGATION IS AND ENSURING THAT ALL OF THAT'S COVERED.

BUT ARE THERE ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR MUTUAL AID AGREEMENTS TO COVER THOSE? YES, MA'AM. OKAY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM EIGHT.

C RECEIVE A REPORT, HOLD A DISCUSSION AND PROVIDE STAFF DIRECTION REGARDING THE NAMING OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMPLEX.

[8.C. Receive a report, hold a discussion and provide staff direction regarding the naming of the Public Safety Complex. (Staff Presenter: Eric Oscarson, Deputy City Manager)]

STAFF. PRESENTER IS ERIC OSCARSSON, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER.

YOU'RE CLEARING THE ROOM ERIC I SEE THAT.

THERE YOU GO. ERIC, YOU HAVE TO STAY.

I SEE THAT. SEE? NO OFFENSE. NO, IT'S ALL RIGHT.

IT'S ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING AGAIN, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

UM, I GUESS THIS IS THE LAST ONE FOR TONIGHT.

I JUST WANT TO SAY, UH, WE DON'T HAVE ANOTHER MEETING BEFORE THE HOLIDAYS, SO MERRY CHRISTMAS.

HAPPY NEW YEAR. I'LL SEE EVERYBODY ON THE ON THE OTHER SIDE.

UM, YEAH.

WELL, SO, UH, WE HAVE AN AGENDA ITEM TONIGHT TO DISCUSS THE POSSIBLE NAMING OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMPLEX.

SO, AS WE KNOW, UM, THIS LOCATION HERE IS THE BLOCK THAT HOUSES OUR, UH, POLICE DEPARTMENT AS WELL AS OUR MUNICIPAL COURT.

UM, THOSE TWO ADDRESSES AND THE ACREAGE OF THE OF THE LOCATION, AS YOU KNOW, THE FUTURE RENDERING OF THIS SITE, THIS IS THE LATEST RENDERING OF THAT COMPLEX. UM, OBVIOUSLY, WE'LL BE TAKING UP THE ENTIRE PARCEL, REPLANNING AND MAKING IT ONE LARGE SITE.

UM, WITH THAT, UM, THE COMMUNICATIONS REMODEL AND NEW BUILDING ARE UNDER DESIGN, UH, WE ANTICIPATE TO BE UNDER CONSTRUCTION, HOPEFULLY IN FY

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25 TO BE COMPLETED IN FISCAL YEAR 27.

UM, THIS CONSTRUCTION AND REDESIGN OF THE ENTIRE FACILITY KIND OF PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY FOR REBRANDING OF THIS SITE.

UM, MAYOR PRO TEM DAN MCCLENDON REQUESTED BRINGING AN ITEM FOR TO DISCUSS NAMING THE SITE AFTER FORMER MAYOR KEN SCHUTTER.

UM, HE OFFERED SOME POSSIBLE NAMES UH, MAYOR KEN SCHRADER, PUBLIC SAFETY COMPLEX, AS WELL AS MAYOR KEN SCHRADER JUSTICE CENTER.

JUST FOR A QUICK REVIEW FOR A NAMING POLICY OF THIS FACILITY, YOU CAN NAME A PUBLIC PROPERTY AFTER A PUBLIC OFFICIAL, AFTER THEY HAVE SERVED WITH DISTINCTION AND BEEN OUT OF PUBLIC OFFICE FOR TWO YEARS.

UH, WHICH IS THE CASE HERE.

UM, THE CITY COUNCIL HAS THE SOLE RIGHT AND RESPONSIBILITY TO APPROVE THE NAMES OF MUNICIPAL PROPERTY.

UM, THIS WOULD HAVE TO BE PASSED VIA A RESOLUTION FOLLOWING A PUBLIC HEARING, AND THE CITY MANAGER OR THEIR DESIGNEE WOULD PRESENT A LIST OF SUGGESTED NAMES TO COUNCIL FOR ITS CONSIDERATION. UM, AND THEN THOSE WOULD BE BROUGHT FORWARD, AND THE COUNCIL WOULD ADOPT A RESOLUTION FORMALLY NAMING THAT PROPERTY.

NEXT STEPS.

DEPENDING ON THE CONVERSATION THIS EVENING, WE COULD COME FORWARD WITH A PUBLIC HEARING AND A RESOLUTION WORKING WITH THE CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE AT A FUTURE MEETING, HOPEFULLY IN FEBRUARY.

UM, AS WE START THE DESIGN OF THE FACILITIES, UM, AND THEN ANYTHING, ANY DECISIONS MADE, SIGNAGE AND, UH, WOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE DESIGN AND THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE NEW FACILITY AS PART OF THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS.

AND WITH THAT, I WILL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.

COUNCIL MEMBERS. I APPRECIATE EVERYONE, UH, LISTENING TO, UH, MY DESIRE HERE TO HONOR MAYOR KEN SHETTER.

YOU KNOW, I'VE IN THE NEARLY 50 YEARS I'VE LIVED HERE IN BURLESON, I'VE KNOWN PERSONALLY QUITE A FAIR NUMBER OF PEOPLE FOR WHOM, UH, PUBLIC FACILITIES HAVE BEEN NAMED.

UM, NICK KERR, BILL STRIBLING, THESE WERE ALL PEOPLE THAT I'VE KNOWN.

JUDY HAYEK, RICHARD BRANSON, UH, AND THEN OUR VERY OWN JIM BAILEY AND OBVIOUSLY MAYOR VERA CALVIN.

UH, ALL OF THESE FINE AND WONDERFUL PEOPLE THAT DID GREAT THINGS FOR THEIR COMMUNITY.

BUT I THINK THAT NO ONE COULD CLAIM THAT ANY MAYOR IN THE CITY OF BURLESON HAS EVER DONE MORE FOR, UH, THE TRANSFORMATION OF THE CITY FROM WHAT IT WAS WHEN HIS SERVICE BEGAN, WHEN OLD TOWN WAS JUST BARELY HERE AT ALL TO WHERE WE ARE NOW.

AND, UH, THE MANY, MANY THINGS THAT, UH, THAT KEN AND HIS SERVICE AND HIS VISION AND HIS LEADERSHIP BROUGHT TO THE COMMUNITY, IT ALL KIND OF CAME HOME TO ME WHEN WE HAD THE CHRISTMAS CELEBRATION THE OTHER NIGHT, AND I WAS WALKING ALONG THE PROMENADE, AND FOR SOME REASON I BEGAN TO THINK, WELL, WHAT WOULD THIS WHAT DOES THIS LOOK LIKE THROUGH THE EYES OF CHILDREN GROWING UP IN OUR IN OUR CITY NOWADAYS, I'D HAVE TO SAY THE PLAZA OBVIOUSLY WASN'T THERE.

OLD TOWN, UH, WAS ONLY GETTING STARTED.

AND THAT CHILD THAT GROWS UP IN BURLESON MAY PLAY BASEBALL AT CHISINAU FIELDS OR SOCCER AT THE BARTLETT COMPLEX. THEY MAY SERVE ON THE MAYOR'S YOUTH COUNCIL, WHICH WAS ANOTHER OF KEN'S INITIATIVES.

THEY MAY, UH, GO TO COLLEGE HERE IN BURLESON, WHICH WOULDN'T HAVE HAPPENED HAD IT NOT BEEN, UH, FOR KEN AND SOME OTHERS THAT CONTRIBUTED TO THAT, AND LET ALONE THE BURLESON OPPORTUNITY FUND, MIGHT HAVE BEEN THEIR MEANS OF BEING ABLE TO COME HERE AND GO TO COLLEGE.

AND IT OCCURRED TO ME THAT WHAT KEN DID IS KEN GAVE US THE STUFF THAT HOMETOWNS WERE MADE OF.

AND I THINK THIS WOULD BE A WONDERFUL WAY TO HONOR THAT, THAT LEADERSHIP FOR ALL TIME.

UH, IT'S A GOOD OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE WE DO HAVE, UH, THE POLICE BUILDING IN, UH, UNDER CONSTRUCTION IN A MAJOR WAY, THE MUNICIPAL COURTS ALWAYS THERE.

AND HAVING THOSE TWO CO-LOCATED WAS ALSO ANOTHER INITIATIVE OF KEN SHADDERS THAT HE HAD WANTED TO PURSUE, AS HAVE I, THROUGH THE YEARS.

SO I WOULD APPRECIATE VERY MUCH IF, UH, THE COUNCIL WOULD SUPPORT THIS, UH, BEING DONE IN, IN KEN'S HONOR.

UM, AND I THINK, UH, WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT JUST EXACTLY WHAT THAT NAME WILL BE, IF IT'S COUNCIL'S WILL TO GO FORWARD WITH THAT.

UH, I'VE MADE A COUPLE OF SUGGESTIONS, UH, WHICH WE CAN TALK ABOUT ALONG THE WAY, BUT, UH, I'D ASK YOU ALL, UH, RESPECTFULLY, TO SUPPORT THIS.

DAN, I SUPPORT IT AND I AGREE WITH YOU 100%.

I DIDN'T KNOW KEN CHEDDAR PERSONALLY.

I'VE DONE SOME RESEARCH BACKGROUND RESEARCH ON HIM, AND HE SACRIFICED A LOT OF TIME TO HELP THIS CITY.

AND THAT'S THE LEAST WE CAN DO FOR HIM NOW.

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AND I I'M FOR THE INITIATIVE.

I TOO WOULD STRONGLY SUPPORT THAT.

KEN WAS, UH.

I'VE KNOWN KEN FOR QUITE SOME TIME, AND, UH, HE AND I HAVE HAD SOME SPIRITED CONVERSATIONS ON HOW TO SPEND MONEY OR NOT SPEND MONEY.

BUT THROUGH IT ALL, HE HE HE HE DID BRING US FORWARD.

AND I CERTAINLY DO NOT BELIEVE THAT WE WOULD BE IN THE SHAPE WE'RE IN RIGHT NOW.

ALL THE WONDERFUL THINGS WE WE HAVE WERE IT NOT FOR KEN AND HIS VISION.

SO I WOULD HIGHLY DOUBT I WOULD HIGHLY SUPPORT THAT.

YOU KNOW, DAN, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I HAD IN MIND.

WE TALKED ABOUT A LONG TIME AGO BECAUSE KEN HAS ALWAYS BEEN A GOOD FRIEND OF MINE.

WE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT POINTS OF VIEW, BUT WE CAN AT LEAST HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH KEN AND I.

AND HE USED TO CHASE MY YOUNGEST UNDER THE CHURCH PEWS OVER HERE WHEN COREY GET AWAY FROM THERESA DURING CHURCH SERVICE.

UH, HE ALWAYS BABYSIT RYAN AND COREY AND GOOD FRIEND OF OURS.

SO I TRULY SUPPORT YOU.

I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THIS FORWARD.

IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO TO HONOR ALL THE ALL THE THINGS THAT HE BROUGHT TO BURLESON AND, AND THINGS THAT CONTINUE TO LIVE ON.

AND, UM, FOR SOME THAT MAY NOT KNOW, HIS PROFESSIONAL JOB IS IS WORKING ALONGSIDE LAW ENFORCEMENT.

AND HE SPEARHEADED SOME LOCAL INITIATIVES, SUCH AS THE STRANGULATION.

UM, ORDINANCE THAT WE HAVE AND SOME OTHER THINGS THAT ARE IN LINE WITH PUBLIC SAFETY.

AND SO I THINK IT'S FITTING AND APPROPRIATE.

SO I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THAT FORWARD.

I SUPPORT IT. MOVE FORWARD.

I'M GOOD WITH IT. THANKS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

THAT BRINGS US TO SECTION NINE, CITY COUNCIL REQUEST FOR FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS AND REPORTS.

[9. CITY COUNCIL REQUESTS AND FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS AND REPORTS]

YOU LIKE DAN? JUST NOT. THAT'LL MOVE US ON TO TEN.

UH, EXECUTIVE SESSION.

WE DO HAVE A NEED FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION.

[10. RECESS INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION (Part 2 of 2)]

IN ACCORDANCE WITH CHAPTER 5.51 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, THE CITY COUNCIL WILL CONVENE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION IN THE CITY COUNCIL WORK ROOM IN CITY HALL TO CONDUCT A CLOSED MEETING TO DISCUSS ITEMS PURSUANT TO SECTION 551.07155, 1.072 AND 551.087. MAYOR, IF YOU COULD ASK FOR A VOTE, IS THERE A MOTION TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION? I GOT THE MOTION.

I GOT A MOTION BY VICTORIA.

A SECOND BY LARRY. PLEASE VOTE.

PASSES UNANIMOUS. WE'RE GOING TO SESSION AT 857.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.