[2A. Receive a report, hold a discussion and provide staff direction on City of Burleson Boards/Commissions structure. (Staff presenter: Amanda Campos, City Secretary)]

THANK YOU. THAT BRINGS US TO SECTION TWO REPORTS AND PRESENTATIONS.

TWO WAYS TO RECEIVE A REPORT, HOLD A DISCUSSION AND PROVIDE STAFF DIRECTION ON CITY OF BURLESON BOARDS AND COMMISSION STRUCTURE.

THE PRESENTER TODAY THIS AFTERNOON IS MYSELF, AMANDA CAMPO, CITY SECRETARY.

YOU STATED IT WAS 3:30 ALREADY.

SO BUT IF YOU WANT TO CLARIFY THAT YOU DID CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER AT 3:30, THAT'S FINE TOO.

THANK YOU.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

I WANT TO START BY SAYING THAT I'VE GOT A LITTLE BIT OF ALLERGIES OR SOMETHING GOING ON HERE.

SO IF I START COUGHING, I'VE BROUGHT THE WATER, SO THAT SHOULD STOP IT.

WE'RE HERE THIS AFTERNOON TO TALK ABOUT BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AND THE STRUCTURE OF OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.

SOME OF THE KEY QUESTIONS THAT WE HAVE BEEN DEALING WITH AS A CITY AND YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN DEALING WITH AS A COUNCIL IS DO WE HAVE THE RIGHT NUMBER OF MEMBERS TO EACH BOARD AND COMMISSION? DO WE HAVE THE RIGHT NUMBER OF BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS ITSELF? ARE THE TERM LIMITS NEEDED BECAUSE THERE ARE TERM LIMITS? AND WHAT ABOUT THE ABSENCE RULE? BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING VERY UNIQUE TO THE CITY OF BURLESON.

SO I WENT AHEAD AND I DID A COMPARISON AND RESEARCH WITH OTHER CITIES, AND I USE THE EXACT SAME CITIES WE'VE BEEN USING THE WHOLE TIME FOR THE PROCESS, THE APPOINTMENT PROCESS. I DID THE EXACT SAME CORE CITY, SO WE'RE NOT SWITCHING AROUND.

FIRST OF ALL, LET'S TALK ABOUT THE BASICS, THE TERMS. SO BURLESON CURRENTLY HAS THREE YEAR TERMS. THERE'S A LIMIT OF THREE FULL TERM.

SO THAT'S A LIMIT OF NINE YEARS THAT SOMEBODY CAN SPEND ON A BOARD OR COMMISSION.

AS YOU CAN SEE, ALL THE OTHER CITIES ARE LISTED THERE.

CLEBURNE DOES HAVE TWO YEAR TERMS WITH A LIMIT OF TWO FULL YEARS AND EULESS SORRY, HAD ALSO THE LIMIT OF THREE FULL TERMS. OTHER THAN THAT, THE OTHER CITIES JUST HAVE TERMS. THEY DON'T HAVE TERM LIMITS STATED ON THERE.

SO I WANTED YOU ALL TO LOOK AT THAT.

AND THEN AS FAR AS MEMBERSHIP GOES, IT'S ANYWHERE FROM FIVE MEMBERS I SAID TO SEVEN JUST TO AVERAGE THAT OUT, BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT DENTON, THEY HAVE 3 TO 16 ON SOME OF THEIRS.

SO IN GRAPEVINE HAS ANYWHERE FROM 5 TO 12.

SO I THINK IN THE RANGE OF 5 TO 7 LOOKS LIKE WE'RE PROBABLY IN THE BALLPARK OF ALL THE OTHER CITIES THERE.

SO THIS IS OUR FIRST POINT OF DISCUSSION.

I'D LIKE FOR COUNCIL TO DISCUSS AND LOOK AND REVIEW ABOUT THE TERMS OF YOUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS THAT YOU CURRENTLY HAVE.

AMANDA, WITH REGARD TO THE TERM LENGTH, WE'RE AN ANOMALY THERE ON THE LIST.

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THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN WE SHOULDN'T BE, BUT DO YOU FEEL THAT HAVING SHORTER TERMS WOULD MAKE MORE OPPORTUNITIES OF SERVICE AVAILABLE FOR CITIZENS THAT WANT TO SERVE ON BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS? BECAUSE WE SEEM TO ALWAYS HAVE A BACKLOG OF PEOPLE AND NO POSITIONS FOR THEM.

I WILL TELL YOU THAT JUST BASED ON WHAT WE'RE SEEING, IS THAT THIS CITY MADE A CONSCIOUS DECISION TO CHANGE THE TERMS TO THREE YEARS FROM TWO YEARS BASED ON THE FACT THAT WE INCREASE THE TERMS OF CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.

SO REMEMBER, IF YOU'LL REMEMBER, PRIOR COUNCIL MEMBERS SERVE TWO YEAR TERMS. AND WHEN THE CITIZENS SPOKE OUT IN A CHARTER AMENDMENT AND AMENDED YOUR TERMS TO THREE YEARS, THIS COUNCIL REVIEWED IT AT THAT TIME AND DECIDED THAT IF IT WAS THREE YEARS FOR COUNCIL, IT SHOULD BE THREE YEARS FOR THE APPOINTEES.

I THINK WHAT WE SHOULD PROBABLY LOOK AT IS THE TERM LIMITS AND YOUR FULL PULLING OUT YOUR FULL TERMS. AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT YOU SHOULD SHORTEN YOUR TERM LIMITS OR DO AWAY WITH THEM ALL, BUT JUST KIND OF LOOK AT THAT WOULD BE SOMEWHERE WHERE I WOULD SAY YOU'D WANT TO HAVE YOUR A LITTLE BIT OF LEEWAY THERE FOR YOUR TERMS. ON THE TERM LIMITS.

I WOULD SAY, CONSIDERING THAT THESE ARE ELECTIVE OFFICES AND THOSE ARE APPOINTED OFFICES, THAT I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S NECESSARILY A NEED FOR PARITY BETWEEN THE TWO.

AS FAR AS THE LENGTH OF TERM GOES, IT'S EASY, I ASSUME, TO REMAIN ON A COMMITTEE IF YOU'RE ON ONE, IF YOU CHOOSE TO.

AND IT'S ONLY AT THE WILL OF COUNCIL THAT A SEAT MAY CHANGE.

SO I DON'T KNOW.

I'M JUST THROWING IT OUT THERE FOR THE SAKE OF DISCUSSION.

AND IF WE'RE GOING TO ADJUST ANYTHING IN THIS, IT MIGHT BE THAT PERHAPS SHORTENING THE LENGTH OF COMMITMENT THAT A CITIZEN HAS TO MAKE MIGHT MAKE THE JOB MORE APPEALING TO SOME PEOPLE.

COMMITTING TO THREE YEARS OR SOMETHING IS LESS OF A THING THAN COMMITTING TO JUST TWO YEARS OF IT.

SOMEHOW ONE SEEMS ENDURABLE AND THE OTHER SEEMS ENDLESS.

IN THE CASE OF ELECTIONS, THAT'S A DIFFERENT MATTER BECAUSE ELECTIONS ARE DISTRACTING AND KEEP YOU FROM PUTTING YOUR FULL ATTENTION ON WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

AND FOR A LOT OF REASONS, I WOULD ENCOURAGE US TO STAY THERE ON COUNCIL, WHICH IS NOT UP FOR CONSIDERATION ANYWAY.

ANYWAY, I JUST THOUGHT I'D THROW IT OUT THERE.

YEAH, THAT WAS THE REASONING BECAUSE THERE WERE TWO YEAR TERMS, IF YOU REMEMBER.

THEY WERE. OH, I HAVEN'T FORGOTTEN.

YEAH. THERE WERE TWO YEAR TERMS. THEY WERE TWO AND WE LEFT THE TERM LIMITS FOR THREE BECAUSE IT WAS THREE.

YEAH. SO IT WAS, YOU KNOW, TWO, TWO YEAR TERMS, THREE FULL TERMS TO BE SERVED.

SO IS THERE HAS THERE BEEN ANY TALK ABOUT COMMITTEE MEMBERS ON THIS? HAVE THEY DISCUSSED THIS OR.

NO, SIR. THIS WAS A WAY FOR COUNCIL TO LOOK AT INCREASING MEMBERSHIP, INCREASING PARTICIPATION, INCREASING OPPORTUNITY, BECAUSE WE HAVE PLENTY OF PEOPLE STILL WAITING.

I'M SORRY, THIS THING IS SUPER LOUD.

STILL HAVE PEOPLE VERY MUCH WAITING TO TO PARTICIPATE IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM INSIDE THIS CITY.

SO CAN YOU REMIND ME IF IT'S ONCE THEY HIT THE NINE YEARS, DO THEY HAVE TO TAKE ONE TERM OFF AND THEN THEY CAN APPLY AGAIN? CORRECT. THEY HAVE TO SIT OFF ONE FULL TERM FROM THE BOARD THAT THEY WERE ON, BUT THEY CAN AUTOMATICALLY JUMP TO ANOTHER BOARD IF THERE'S A POSITION OPEN AND COUNCIL DECIDES TO MOVE THEM TO ANOTHER BOARD OR COMMISSION.

I THINK WHAT I WORRY ABOUT I KNOW THREE, I AGREE THAT THREE YEARS LIKE TWO JUST SEEMS LIKE THAT'S THAT'S A GOOD COMMITMENT AND THREE SEEMS, SOMETHING ABOUT THAT THIRD YEAR.

MY FEAR IS SOMETIMES HOW LONG IT TAKES TO GET THROUGH PROJECTS AND WHETHER OR NOT THEY CAN SEE THEM THROUGH IF THEIR TERM ENDS IN TWO YEARS.

SOMETIMES WHAT SOMETIMES WE START DRAFTING A PARK IDEA, FOR EXAMPLE, AND TIME WE GO.

IT'S ALMOST LIKE A YEAR BEFORE YOU EVEN GET TO PUT THE EQUIPMENT ON THE GROUND.

SO I JUST WORRY ABOUT CHANGING THE LENGTH.

I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THE TERM THE LIMITING THE FULL TERM SINCE NINE YEARS.

IT JUST DOESN'T ENABLE PEOPLE TO ROLL ON OFTEN ENOUGH.

SO I DON'T I DON'T KNOW.

I JUST WANT TO GIVE MORE PEOPLE MORE OPPORTUNITY.

I THINK THAT'S WHAT SEVERAL OF US ARE NODDING OUR HEADS ABOUT IS HOW DO WE CYCLE IN MORE PEOPLE MORE FREQUENTLY AND GIVE IT BECAUSE WE HAVE THE BACKLOG AND WE WANT PEOPLE TO PARTICIPATE AND WE DON'T WANT IT TO BE DISCOURAGED FROM APPLYING BECAUSE THEY NEVER THEY HAVE APPLIED TWO OR THREE CYCLES AND STILL HAVEN'T GOTTEN ON.

BUT IT'S NOT BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES IT'S JUST BECAUSE THE POSITION HASN'T BEEN OPEN.

COUNCILMEMBER JOHNSON I AGREE WITH YOU.

THERE'S SOMETHING TO THAT THREE YEARS THAT THE FIRST YEAR YOU'RE LIKE A DEER IN THE HEADLIGHTS, SECOND YEAR YOU'RE STARTING TO GET YOUR FEET UNDERNEATH YOU.

THIRD YEAR, YOU'RE REALLY STARTING TO GET A ROLL.

I LIKE THE THREE YEAR TERMS, ALBEIT I SEE YOUR POINT AS WELL, BUT I DEFINITELY THINK IT NEEDS TO BE LIMITED TO TWO.

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AND I REALLY STRUGGLE WITH THE IDEA OF EVEN BEING PUT ON ANOTHER BOARD IMMEDIATELY.

YEAH, THEY HAVE GREAT.

THEY DID REALLY WELL ON THIS BOARD.

BUT THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT JOHN SMITH, WHO WASN'T CHOSEN AT ALL, WOULDN'T DO GREAT ON AN ON THE BOARD, ANOTHER BOARD.

IT KIND OF ALLOWS FOR A LITTLE BIT OF LIKE JUMPING WHEN WE DO THAT BOOK IS HUGE OF APPLICANTS SO I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE A LOT I AGREE.

I THINK, YOU KNOW HOW ARE WE COMING TO THE NUMBER? I THINK SIX YEARS IS GOOD.

YOU KNOW, WHETHER LIKE DAN SAYS TWO- THREE OR LIKE VICTORIA SAYS A 3-2, I LIKE THE SIX.

I ALSO LIKE THE IDEA OF SITTING OUT AT LEAST ONE TERM, THOUGH I THINK WE NEED TO SIT OUT A TERM AT THE END OF THAT AND THEN RUN AGAIN.

IF IT'S STILL IN YOUR PASSION, IT'S STILL IN YOUR HEART.

IS THAT SITTING OUT FOR THAT PARTICULAR BOARD OR SITTING OUT COMPLETELY? BECAUSE CURRENTLY YOU HAVE TO SIT OUT ONE FULL TERM FROM THAT CURRENT BOARD THAT YOU'RE ON, BUT YOU CAN JUMP TO ANOTHER BOARD.

I SAY SIT OUT COMPLETELY.

THAT'S WHAT I THINK. I THINK YOU NEED TO SIT OUT COMPLETELY.

WE'VE GOT SO MANY PEOPLE THAT WANT TO RUN AND THEY JUST DON'T GET AN OPPORTUNITY.

IS THERE ANY MORE FEEDBACK? BECAUSE WE WANT TO I'D LIKE TO TRY TO GET SOMETHING WHERE I CAN BRING THIS FORWARD AS AN AMENDMENT TO YOU ALL IN AND GO DOWN THAT LINE AND GET SOME MORE PEOPLE INVOLVED.

SO THAT'S WHAT I WAS ABOUT TO SAY.

SO WE'RE ALL SAYING 3/2? TWO YEAR TERMS, THREE TERMS AROUND OR THREE FOR TWO, THREE YEAR TERM FOR TWO.

THE ONLY ONE THAT WE HAD A QUESTION ON WAS P AND Z, BECAUSE ONCE YOU GET TRAINED AND YOU KIND OF KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING ON P AND Z, I MEAN, THOSE ARE VALUABLE, YOU KNOW, VERY JUST LIKE EVERY ONE OF THE OTHER BOARDS, BUT THEY'RE VERY VALUABLE TO US AS A COUNCIL.

SO WHEN YOU GET SOMEBODY THERE THAT REALLY KNOWS WHAT THEY'RE DOING, IT MAKES A LOT MORE SENSE TO TO US AS A COUNCIL.

SO THAT'S THE ONLY REASON WE WENT THREE FULL TERMS ON THAT PARTICULAR BOARD, IS BECAUSE OF THAT THESE TERM LIMITS AND RULES DON'T HAVE TO BE THE SAME FOR ALL THE KNOW. AND IF YOU'LL LOOK, THE CITY OF DENTON, WHAT THEY HAVE DONE IS THEY VARY ON SOME OF THEIR BOARDS FOR, FOR THAT EXACT REASON, I WOULD, I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU THAT IT MAKES MORE SENSE TO HAVE MORE CONTINUITY IN PLANNING AND ZONING THAN IT DOES IN SOME OTHER BOARDS.

AND IT MIGHT MAKE MORE SENSE TO HAVE MORE VARIETY OF OPINION AND STUFF ON OTHER BOARDS, YOU KNOW, AS COMPARED TO SO IS AN AWFUL LOT OF HARD WORK AND AN AWFUL LOT OF ASSIMILATION, OF KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE.

I GET YOU THERE TOTALLY.

SO WE'RE ALL IN AGREEMENT THAT THREE AND THREE ON THE P AND Z? I THINK SO. OKAY.

SO THAT'S ONE THING OUT OF THE WAY.

OKAY. OKAY.

WE GOT ONE. WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS? DO YOU IS THERE A DESIRE TO CHANGE THAT, TO KEEP IT THREE YEAR TERMS BUT LIMIT IT, DECREASE THAT TO TWO FULL TERMS INSTEAD OF THE THREE? SO A 3/2.

I'M GOING TO GO ALONG WITH COUNCIL ON THIS.

I DON'T SEE A NICKEL'S DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THREE AND TWO AND TWO AND THREE.

AS LONG AS IT COMES OUT TO SAY SOMETHING.

I WISH WE HAD MORE INPUT FROM SOME OF THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS ON THIS TO KNOW HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT IT.

MISS SHERRY, I SEE YOU IN THE AUDIENCE.

DO YOU WANT TO COME UP AND SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON HOW LONG OR DO YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS OR HAVE ANY THOUGHTS? I'M SORRY, SHERRY. I DIDN'T MEAN FOR THAT TO HAPPEN.

I AGREE. IT WOULD BE NICE TO HEAR FROM SOMEONE WHO'S BEEN SITTING ON IN A VOLUNTEER CAPACITY ON ONE OF OUR BOARDS TO SAY LIKE, DO YOU THINK THREE YEARS AND THE TERM LENGTH. WELL, I MEAN, YOU HAVE FIVE YEARS CIP, SO IF YOU DO ANY, YOU KNOW, DO LESS THAN IT'S REALLY GOING TO BE HARD FOR A BOARD MEMBER TO SEE THINGS THROUGH FROM START TO FINISH.

AND THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHT ON IT.

SO. SO YOU'RE KIND OF LEANING MORE TOWARDS LEAVING IT AT THREE.

I LIKE IT THE WAY IT IS.

JUST BECAUSE I'M A SITTING BOARD MEMBER, I HAVE THE TIME.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT AN ISSUE FOR ME.

SOMEONE ELSE, IT MAY BE THAT'S WORKING, BUT FOR ME, I THINK IT WORKS FINE LIKE THIS.

THAT'S MY THOUGHTS.

YOU'D BE OKAY WITH TWO YEAR TERMS, THREE.

IT GETS YOU THE SAME NUMBER AND THEY COULD STAY THERE.

AND THE LEARNING CURVE IS WHAT I'M HEARING HERE.

I MEAN, PARKS IS A VERY SOUGHT AFTER BOARD.

SO IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR TURNOVER, THEN YOU MIGHT WANT TO SHORTEN IT.

BUT IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR EXPERIENCE, SEEING THINGS THROUGH, YOU MIGHT LEAVE IT LIKE IT IS AND JUST

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SELFISH REASONS THAT KICKED ME OUT NEXT YEAR.

SO JUST SO YOU KNOW.

BUT.

THANK YOU, SHERRY, APPRECIATE IT.

SO WHAT IS OUR OUR RETENTION COMMITTEE MEMBERS? DO WE LOSE VERY MANY OF THEM? NO. ONCE THEY'RE ON THERE, THEY'RE ON THERE.

SO WHAT YOU'VE GOT TO REMEMBER IS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS THE COUNCIL'S DIRECTION WAS TO INCREASE PARTICIPATION.

THIS IS JUST ONE WAY TO DO THAT.

IF THERE'S NOT A DESIRE TO TOUCH THIS OR DO ANYTHING WITH THIS, THEN WE CAN MOVE ON AND AND LOOK AT OTHER WAYS TO INCREASE PARTICIPATION.

BUT IF THERE IS A DESIRE TO CHANGE IT, THEN LET'S DO THIS NOW, TOO.

ALL THE OTHERS. THE OTHER THING YOU CAN DO IS LEAVE THE TERMS ALONE AND INCREASE THE MEMBERS ON THE COMMITTEES, WHICH IS NOT A BAD IDEA.

I CAN GO EITHER WAY ON IT.

I DO THINK WE ALREADY AT LEAST CONSIDER GOING AHEAD AND GOING WITH MORE MEMBERS.

IF IF IN FACT IT'S IT'S IT'S GOOD ABOUT THE EXPERIENCE LEVEL, WHICH I ABSOLUTELY I AGREE WITH THAT ONE. ONCE YOU'VE BEEN THERE A WHILE, WHY YOU'RE CERTAINLY IT'S EASIER TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS WITH FOLKS THAT'S BEEN THERE TWO OR THREE OR FOUR YEARS AND IS YOUR FIRST YEAR MEMBER.

THAT SAID, WE'RE ALWAYS GOING TO HAVE FIRST YEAR MEMBERS.

BUT I ACTUALLY I GUESS IF I THOUGHT ABOUT IT, I'D RATHER INCREASE THE MEMBERS AND LEAVE THE LEAVE THE TIMES ALONE.

KIND OF AGREEING THREE/TWO.

I STILL DON'T, I DON'T SEE THE NINE YEARS AS A I DON'T THINK IT DOES AS GOOD INJUSTICE WITH NINE YEARS, I APPRECIATE MISS SCOTT AND I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING SHE SAID.

BUT YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND WE REPRESENT A CITY OF 50,000 PEOPLE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMMODATE WAY MORE THAN I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY WE HAVE ON THE 12 BOARDS.

WE HAVE MAYBE 150 PEOPLE.

IF WE ASK THEM ALL, WE'RE GOING TO GET VARYING OPINIONS.

AND THE FACT IS WE HAVE A LONG WAITING LIST FOR PARK BOARD.

EVERYBODY WANTS TO BE ON IT.

THAT'S A PERFECT EXAMPLE.

IT'S IT'S AGAIN, WE'RE TRYING TO BRING IN FRESH BLOOD, FRESH THINKING, AND GIVE PEOPLE THE OPPORTUNITY THAT THEY WOULD LIKE.

YEAH, I WOULD SAY THAT THE LACK OF TURNOVER AND THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT STAY ON BOARDS, I THINK THAT PROBABLY SPEAKS MORE VOLUME TO WHAT MS. SCOTT JUST SAID, THAT ONCE THEY'RE THERE, YOU KNOW, THEY WANT TO SEE THINGS THROUGH FRUITION.

AND IF THERE'S A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN THAT COMES THROUGH, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU SAID, THAT'S A FIVE YEAR PROCESS AND THEY'RE WANTING TO SEE EVERYTHING GO THROUGH THERE.

SO THAT'S I MEAN, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT FEEDBACK FROM THE MEMBERS THEMSELVES, THEY'RE SPEAKING BY NOT LEAVING BOARDS OR STAYING ON FOR SIX YEARS. IS THAT GOOD ENOUGH OR IS NINE YEARS GOING? NO, BECAUSE IF YOU START IF IT'S FIVE AND FIVE, YOU'RE GOING TO MISS THE SECOND FIVE YEARS.

YEAH, YOU'LL NEVER GET FULLY ON FOR A FIVE YEARS.

THAT'S THE THING THEY NEVER GET IN THE MIDDLE OF.

YOU'LL NEVER GIVE UP TIME, PERIOD ANYWAY.

YOU'LL NEVER GET THAT.

YOU KNOW, FOR ME, I LIKE THE IDEA OF SIX YEARS.

I THINK THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF CITIZENS THAT WANT TO BE ENGAGED.

THEY WANT TO BE INVOLVED, AND I DON'T THINK IT DOES OUR CITY GOOD TO IGNORE THEM AND NOT LET THEM BE INVOLVED.

THEY GET FRUSTRATED AND THEY MAY TUNE OUT.

THEY MAY NOT PROVIDE THEIR INPUT.

AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A TON OF PEOPLE OUT WITH GREAT IDEAS AND WE MAY NOT GET A HEARING UNLESS WE CUT THIS DOWN.

I THINK SIX YEARS IS PLENTY.

I THINK YOU STILL GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE IT ALL THE WAY THROUGH SOME STUFF YOU MAY NOT EVER I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW.

HOW MANY YEARS DID THE DOG PARK TAKE TO GET PUT IN THAT NORMAL? OKAY. WELL, IT'S YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THAT'S JUST MY THINKING IS THAT I THINK SIX YEARS GIVES YOU PLENTY IN AND YOU KNOW AND YOU CAN STILL TAKE OWNERSHIP AND STILL TAKE PRIDE.

AND HEY, YOU KNOW WHAT? I WAS THERE.

I CAST MY BALLOT, I HELPED I HELP GET THIS BALL ROLLING.

LOOK AT THIS COOL THING THAT WE HAVE, YOU KNOW.

OKAY, SO WE I THINK WE'VE NARROWED IT DOWN TO THE LIMIT SHOULD BE SIX YEARS.

IS THAT THE WAY WE'RE SEEING IT? SO WE CAN YOU THINK IT OUGHT TO BE LONGER? WITH THE EXCEPTION OF PLANNING AND ZONING.

WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO IS PUT THE LENGTH ON THIS AND THEN WE'LL GO DOWN TO WHETHER IT'S A TWO OR THREE.

SO WE'RE OKAY WITH SIX YEARS.

SO NOW DO WE WANT TO FIGURE OUT WHETHER IT'S A TWO YEAR TERM OR THREE YEAR TERMS? WHICH WAY WE WANT TO GO ON THAT.

YOU GOT A THREE, BUT YOU WE KEEP IT.

THREE. FOUR.

OKAY. SO THE GENERAL DIRECTION I'M GETTING THEN, IS TO KEEP THE TERMS AT THREE AND CHANGE IT TO TWO FULL TERMS AND THEN

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ACCEPT PLANNING AND ZONING, WHICH WILL STAY THREE/THREE.

YES, CORRECT.

THAT'S IT. ALL RIGHT.

SO THEN, MEMBERS, SOME OF OUR BOARDS HAVE FIVE MEMBERS.

SOME OF THEM HAVE SEVEN MEMBERS.

WHAT I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT THERE IS THAT WHILE WE SAY SOME HAVE FIVE AND SOME HAVE SEVEN, I THINK IT WOULD BE BETTER IF WE HAD SEVEN ALL THE WAY THROUGH ON SOME OF THESE. IT HELPS WITH QUORUMS. IT HELPS WITH MORE FEEDBACK ON EACH ONE OF THESE BOARDS.

ONE OF THE BOARDS, I'LL SAY IS THE CEMETERY BOARD THAT HAS FIVE MEMBERS AND YOU'RE TALKING FOUR AT LARGE AND ONE YOUTH MEMBER.

BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT TO REMEMBER ALL THESE BOARDS HAVE AT LEAST ONE YOUTH MEMBER ON THEM.

AND SO THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE AT ON THAT.

SO THAT'S JUST FOR ME.

I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOME I'M NOT TRYING TO REMEMBER.

THERE ARE SEVEN HERE. THERE ARE FIVE HERE.

WE'RE LEAVING P&Z ALONE AND WE'RE GOING TO LEAVE IT THE WAY IT IS.

PLANNING AND ZONING CURRENTLY HAS EIGHT MEMBERS, BUT THEY HAVE SEVEN REGULAR MEMBERS AND THEN ONE YOUTH EX-OFFICIO MEMBER. SO THE YOUTH SITS THERE, BUT THEY'RE NOT A VOTING MEMBER.

SO WE HAVE SUCH AN IMPORTANT COMMITTEE THAT WE NEED TO INCREASE IT OR LEAVE IT WHERE IT'S AT.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ON THAT? IT'S UP TO YOU. I WILL TELL YOU THAT SOME CITIES HAVE THE SEVEN LIKE WE DO AND SOME HAVE NINE AND SOME HAVE 12 ON THEIR PLAN AND ZONING.

SO IT'S COMPLETELY UP TO COUNCIL ON PLANNING AND ZONING.

IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT THAT FOR..

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON JUST THAT ONE COMMITTEE.

I WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS ALL OF THEM AND JUST SAY I WOULD LIKE TO SEE NINE ON EVERY ONE OF THEM.

I MEAN, I KNOW THAT'S MORE IN YOUR SEVEN, BUT I THINK NINE ON EVERYONE.

I KNOW THAT WE'VE HEARD ON P AND Z.

THERE HAVE BEEN TIMES THEY'VE HAD A QUORUM WHERE THEY'VE HAD ISSUES.

I THINK NINE ON P AND Z AND NINE ON ALL THE BOARDS, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, IS WHAT WHEN THAT KIND OF GOES BACK TO WHAT YOU WERE SAYING, COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, OF INCREASING IT.

AND IF YOU'LL LOOK THE COMPARISON CITIES THAT WE WENT THROUGH, A MAJORITY OF THEM DO HAVE UP TO NINE MEMBERS ON THEM.

THEIR REGULAR, THEIR LIBRARY, THEIR PARKS TEND TO HAVE ABOUT NINE MEMBERS ON THEM.

SO. I'M GOOD WITH THAT.

SO THEN LET ME ASK YOU THIS.

IS IT IS IT NINE AT LARGE PLUS A YOUTH OR EIGHT AT LARGE PLUS THE YOUTH? BECAUSE.

I WOULD SAY NINE PLUS THE YOUTH, NINE VOTING MEMBERS.

PLUS THE YOUTH BECAUSE YOU NEED AN ODD NUMBER, CORRECT? NOW, WAIT A MINUTE. YOUTH MEMBERS VOTE.

EXCEPT FROM P AND Z.

OH, IT'S THE ONLY ONE THAT THEY DON'T VOTE ON.

OH, WELL, THEN THAT WOULD INCLUDE THE YOUTH, WOULDN'T IT? I WOULD SAY NINE WOULD INCLUDE THE YOUTH, I WOULD SAY NINE VOTING MEMBERS.

AND THAT ALLOWS YOU NOT TO HAVE FOUR AND FOUR OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

WITH THE EXCEPTION OF. AND THEN, P AND Z WOULD HAVE, WOULD HAVE TEN PEOPLE TOTAL WOULD HAVE TEN ONE BEING A YOUTH NON VOTING.

EVERYBODY GOOD. YEAH, WE'RE GOOD.

ALL RIGHT. CAN I SAIL RIGHT THROUGH THIS? BUT WE DO HAVE TWO COMMITTEES THAT DON'T HAVE A YOUTH MEMBER.

RIGHT. THE BUILDING CODES AND STANDARDS DOES THAT ONE.

BUT IS IT THE COMMITTEE? SO THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE ON PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES DOES NOT HAVE ONE.

THE BUILDING CODES AND STANDARDS DOES NOT HAVE ONE.

AND OF COURSE, THE ZONING BOARD OF ORDNANCE.

ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS DOES NOT HAVE ONE.

I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT POSITION TO THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE ON DISABILITIES.

ANYBODY ELSE HAVE THOUGHTS ON THAT ONE ON THE ADDING A YOUTH.

SO WE WILL MOVE ON THEN AND LOOKING AT GENERAL RULES HERE.

SO GENERALLY, THE QUALIFICATION TO BE ON A BORDER COMMISSION HERE IN THE CITY OF BURLESON IS YOU HAVE TO BE A RESIDENT AT LEAST ONE YEAR PRIOR TO YOUR APPOINTMENT. NOT A REGISTERED VOTER.

JUST LIVE WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS OF BURLESON.

HOWEVER, THERE ARE SOME VARIATIONS ON THAT BECAUSE WE ALLOW FOR THAT.

SO ONE OF THE EXAMPLES IS OF COURSE THE BUILDING CODES AND STANDARDS OR THE OLD TOWN DESIGN STANDARD REVIEW WE HAVE TO HAVE.

THEY JUST HAVE TO EITHER RESIDE IN THE CITY, OWN A BUSINESS IN THE CITY OF BURLESON.

SO THAT'S HOW THEY ARE IN THE OLD TOWN AREA.

SO IF YOU LOOK, MOST OF THE CITY, ACTUALLY ALL THE CITIES DID THE EXACT SAME THING THAT WE DO.

THE VARIATION HAS TO DO WITH SPECIAL SKILL SET ON DIFFERENT BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS THAT THEY HAVE, BUT FOR THE MOST PART IT'S THE EXACT SAME AS US.

THEY HAVE TO BE RESIDENTS OF THEIR CITY AT LEAST ONE YEAR PRIOR TO THEIR APPOINTMENT.

THEN WE CAN, UNLESS YOU GUYS WANT TO LOOK AT THAT OR CHANGE THAT UP IN ANY WAY.

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OK BURLESON ABSENCES.

THIS WAS ONE THING I WANTED TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION TO BECAUSE OOPS, SORRY, THIS IS UNIQUE TO BURLESON.

NO OTHER CITIES HAS IT AS AN ABSENCE RULE.

THEY HAVE NO, THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE A POLICY.

THEY DON'T HAVE THEY DON'T SPEAK TO IT AT ALL.

WE ARE THE ONLY CITY THAT DOES.

HAS THIS BEEN AN ISSUE? YES, SIR. WE NEED TO LEAVE IT IN.

IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PRIVILEGE OF BEING ON A BOARD AND HOW WE HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE WAITING, THEN WE HAVE TO HAVE A POLICY IN PLACE.

IF I MEAN, IF IT'S AN ILLNESS AND THAT'S A DIFFERENT THING, BUT YOU HAVE TO SHOW A COMMITMENT TO IT.

AGREE, LET'S LEAVE IT.

ALL RIGHT, WE'LL LEAVE THAT THERE.

SO THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO WHEN I DID THE COMPARISON.

ONE THING I DID WAS LOOK AT ALL OF THEIR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, AND THEN I WANTED TO STATE HERE FOR YOU ALL TO SEE THE ONES THAT WE HAVE IN COMMON.

AND THEIR NAMES MAY BE JUST A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT IN THE OTHER CITIES.

BUT I LOOKED AT THE CORE OF WHAT THEY DID AND THE CORE OF WHAT OURS DO, AND THESE ARE OURS THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE THAT OTHER CITIES HAVE.

SO THIS IS PRETTY COMMON THROUGHOUT ALL OF THEM TO HAVE ALL OF THESE HERE.

THEY LIKE A CITY THEY HAD ACTUALLY THEY SPLIT PARKS AND RECREATION APART.

THEY HAD A PARK BOARD AND THEN THEY HAD A RECREATION BOARD THAT WAS SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.

BUT FOR THE MOST PART, LIKE THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OLD TOWN, THAT'S LIKE OUR OLD TOWN DESIGN STANDARDS.

BUT THEY SOMETIMES CALLED THEM A PRESERVATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

THEY'VE CALLED THEM HISTORIC PRESERVATION.

SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE THEY'RE AT ON THAT.

SO I JUMP IN REAL QUICK.

I HAVE TO JUMP OUT.

YEAH, I'M NOT GOING TO HAVE TIME TO TALK ABOUT THIS, BUT I DID JUST WANT TO BRING UP.

I KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO ASK IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE.

I'M EXCITED ABOUT THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE, WHICH AND WE'LL BE HERE FOR THAT PRESENTATION.

I WOULD LIKE US TO SEE IF WE COULD PUT TOGETHER SOME SORT OF HOTEL MOTEL GRANT COMMITTEE SIMILAR TO SOMETHING THAT IS IN CLEBURNE AND THAT COULD BE UP FOR DISCUSSION ANOTHER TIME ONLY BECAUSE I CAN'T STAY AND FINISH THAT DISCUSSION.

I JUST WANT TO THROW IT OUT THERE.

THANK YOU. OKAY, SO THAT WAS JUST MORE FOR GENERAL KNOWLEDGE, THIS ONE RIGHT HERE.

SO THIS IS THE ONE THAT IS UNIQUE ONLY TO US AND ONE OTHER CITY.

SO CEMETERY OBVIOUSLY IS GOING TO BE UNIQUE BECAUSE CLEBURNE AND OURSELVES HAVE CEMETERIES, BUT NOBODY ELSE DOES.

COMMITTEES ON PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES.

DENTON IS THE ONLY OTHER CITY THAT I COMPARED TO THAT HAD ANYTHING CLOSE TO THAT OR EVEN ANYTHING.

SO WE ARE RUNNING SOME UNIQUE OPPORTUNITIES FOR OUR CITIZENS THERE THAT ARE DIFFERENT FROM THE OTHER ONES.

AND THEN HERE ARE SOME THAT I FOUND IN THE OTHER CITIES, MY COMPARISON CITIES, BUT WERE NOT HERE IN BURLESON.

OBVIOUSLY, THE CULTURAL ARTS ADVISORY COMMITTEE THERE, IT'S SIMILAR TO THE PUBLIC ART THAT WE'RE CREATING, BUT IT EXPANDS IT.

SO WHEN THEY SAY CULTURAL ARTS THERE, THEY TALK ABOUT THEATER INCLUDED INTO PHYSICAL ART AND EXPRESSIVE ART.

THEY DO THE WHOLE GAMBIT OF OF THE ARTS THERE.

AND THAT'S IN BEDFORD AND MANSFIELD BOTH DO THAT.

AND I BELIEVE MANSFIELD, THOUGH, HAS A PERFORMING ARTS CENTER.

SO THAT'S PROBABLY WHY THEY HAVE EXPANDED THEIRS.

AND I'M NOT SURE IF BEDFORD DOES OR NOT, BUT THAT'S PROBABLY WHY THEY KIND OF DID THAT.

BUT. COMMUNITY SERVICES ADVISORY FOR DENTON.

I WILL CAVEAT EVERYTHING BY SAYING THAT DENTON IS REALLY A UNIQUE OUTLIER.

I BELIEVE THEY HAVE ANYWHERE FROM 16, I CAN'T REMEMBER 16 TO 18 DIFFERENT COMMITTEES, COMMISSIONS, AND SOME ARE SO SPECIFIC THAT JUST WOULDN'T PLAY HERE.

I MEAN, THEY'RE JUST IT'S VERY ODD.

I THINK THEY HAVE PROBABLY A UNIQUE CIRCUMSTANCE THERE BEING SUCH A BIG COLLEGE CITY, AND THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN ANY OF THE OTHER CITIES WE COMPARE TO.

BUT I THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, DIVERSITY WISE, IT'S PROBABLY WHY THEY HAVE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT STUFF THERE.

AND THOSE ARE THE ONES UP THERE.

I'LL LET YOU GUYS SEE THOSE.

THE SENIOR ADVISORY COMMITTEE, I DO WANT TO MAKE A NOTE OF THAT, THAT WHEN TODD HULSEY WAS ON OUR CITY COUNCIL, HE ASKED FOR US TO HAVE A SENIOR ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

ONE OF THE THINGS, THOUGH, THAT WE HEARD FROM THERE WAS WE CAN HAVE WE WANT ONE, BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO CREATE ONE UNLESS WE HAVE AN ABSOLUTE MISSION AND GOAL FOR THEM TO DO.

BECAUSE THE QUICKEST WAY TO ANGER A SENIOR, THIS WAS RONNIE'S WORDS.

WELL, HE DIDN'T SAY ANGER.

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HE USED DIFFERENT LANGUAGE, BUT HE SAID THE QUICKEST WAY TO ANGER A SENIOR CITIZEN IS TO PUT THEM ON A BOARD AND NEVER MEET AND NEVER HAVE A PURPOSE AND NEVER HAVE A BEGINNING.

AND, YOU KNOW, YOU JUST KIND OF SAY, YEAH, YOU'RE ON THIS BOARD.

AND THEN WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING FOR THEM TO DO.

SO I WANTED YOU ALL TO LOOK AT THESE AND SEE IF THERE'S ANY INTEREST.

I KNOW THAT COUNCILMEMBER PAYNE JUST MENTIONED HOTEL MOTEL GRANT COMMITTEE, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW IF COUNCIL HAD WANTED TO EXPAND TO CREATE OTHER COMMITTEES.

I KNOW THAT THE PUBLIC ARTS COMMITTEE IS COMING FORWARD, BUT THAT'S A SPECIFIC CORRECT? CORRECT. IT'S NOT A GENERAL ONE, RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT. UNLESS THE COUNCIL WANTS TO CHANGE, CHANGE THAT IN THE NEXT ITEM THAT WE HAVE, I WOULD SAY ON THE HOTEL FUND, WE'RE LOOKING AT HAVING A POLICY UPDATE FOR COUNCIL MOST LIKELY AFTER THE FIRST OF THE YEAR, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THE COUNCIL HAD ASKED TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ON.

SO PERHAPS WE COULD HAVE THAT DISCUSSION WHEN WE BRING THAT BACK TO THE FULL COUNCIL.

OKAY. I HAVE WE DON'T HAVE OUR MAYOR COUNCIL LISTED ON THIS.

AND I HAD A COUPLE OF THINGS I WANTED TO MENTION ABOUT THAT.

I THINK ATTENDANCE WITH THAT ONE IS DIFFERENT.

WE DON'T HAVE THE SAME ATTENDANCE POLICY, SO THEY DON'T FALL UNDER THE SAME.

WE MENTIONED THEM, BUT THEY DON'T FOLLOW UNDER THE SAME RULES AND REGULATIONS THAT THE CITY'S BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS DO, BECAUSE WE'VE ACTUALLY, THE WAY THAT THEY WERE ORIGINALLY SET UP AND DONE OVER 12, 14 YEARS AGO WHEN WE CREATED THAT, WE ALLOWED THEM TO CREATE THEIR OWN BYLAWS. THIS COUNCIL DOES NOT APPOINT MEMBERS.

IT'S A CEREMONIAL AFFIRMATION OR RATIFICATION OF THEIR OWN APPOINTMENTS, AND THEY'VE DONE THOSE APPOINTMENTS IN EVERY SHAPE OR FORM YOU CAN COME UP WITH.

BUT WE LEAVE THAT UP TO THEM TO CREATE THAT.

HOW THEY THINK THAT. I MEAN, THEY'RE NOW AT A LOTTERY SYSTEM.

THEY USED TO DO INTERVIEWS.

THEY USED TO YOU'D HAVE TO SUBMIT A RESUME, YOU'D HAVE TO SUBMIT A PROJECT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

AND THEY GOT AWAY FROM DOING THAT.

THE MEMBERS THEMSELVES, THE YOUTH MEMBERS, FELT LIKE IT WAS BECOMING A POPULARITY CONTEST, SO THEY DIDN'T WANT TO DO THAT.

SO THEY'VE INCREASED THEIR NUMBERS.

WE STARTED OFF, I BELIEVE, WITH 12 MEMBERS AND NOW THEY'RE UP TO 25, IF NOT MORE MEMBERS ON THEIRS.

AND THEN THEY UPDATED THEIR BYLAWS TO SAY, YOU KNOW, THE MAJORITY OF LIKE THE BOARD ITSELF, THE EXECUTIVE BOARD, HAD TO BE THERE IN ORDER TO MAKE A QUORUM.

INSTEAD OF SAYING ALL THE QUORUM, THE MAJORITY OF THE 25.

SO THE MAYOR'S YOUTH COUNCIL, WHILE IT IS A BOARD AND COMMISSION OF THE CITY, IT IS ALWAYS BEEN VERY SEPARATE.

BUT IF YOU WANT TO PULL THAT IN BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THE SAME KIND OF TERM LIMITS, EITHER THEY DON'T HAVE THE SAME TERM LIMITS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, THAT'S MORE FOR THEIR AGE, SO THEY AGE OUT INSTEAD OF SAYING, OH, THEY'RE GOING TO DO THREE TWO YEAR TERMS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

I DON'T I THINK THAT AGE OUT IS APPROPRIATE.

I DON'T THINK THEY NEED A TERM LIMITS BECAUSE WHEN YOU'RE YOUTH, YOUR WHOLE EVERYTHING CAN CHANGE FROM YEAR TO YEAR.

YOU GO FROM NOT BEING INVOLVED IN SPORTS TO GETTING ON THE BASKETBALL TEAM AND NOW YOU HAVE OTHER COMMITMENTS.

AND SO I THINK NATURALLY THEY'LL PROGRESS ON AND OFF THAT BOARD.

AND I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT IT GREW IN NUMBERS BECAUSE WHEN WE HAD 12, IT WAS REALLY HARD AND I WAS A PART OF THAT BYLAWS COMMITTEE, BUT I COULDN'T REMEMBER LIKE HOW WE CAME TO WHAT WE CAME TO. MY ONLY OTHER SUGGESTION WOULD BE, I KNOW IT DOESN'T FALL UNDER THIS SAME THING, BUT I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO CONSIDER RENAMING IT TO THE YOUTH ADVISORY COMMITTEE BECAUSE I THINK YOUTH GET CONFUSED ABOUT WHAT ITS CHARGE IS.

AND SO EVERY TIME I SAY WHAT THE MAYOR'S YOUTH COUNCIL IS, I ALWAYS SAY IT'S A YOUTH ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

YOU SERVE ON IT TO PROVIDE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE COUNCIL.

SO I THINK SOMETIMES EVEN HOW WE NAME THINGS CAN DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT WE HAVE GOOD PARTICIPATION OR WHAT THAT ENTAILS.

OR IS IT HOW DOES IT OPERATE, WHAT IS IT GOING TO WHAT'S THE TIME COMMITMENT GOING TO BE AND THAT KIND OF THING.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT ANYONE ELSE'S THOUGHTS ARE, BUT IT'S JUST IT'S A RIGHT.

SO OTHER CITIES, SO OTHER CITIES THAT I COMPARE TO, DO YOU HAVE YOUTH COMMITTEES AND SOME ARE CALLED THE MAYOR'S YOUTH COUNCIL AND SOME ARE CALLED THE YOUTH ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

I BELIEVE BEDFORD SPECIFICALLY IS THE BEDFORD YOUTH ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

CLYBURN'S IS THE CLYBURN YOUTH ADVISORY, BUT MANSFIELD, I BELIEVE, IS THE MAYOR'S YOUTH COUNCIL.

SO IT VARIES FROM FROM CITY TO CITY.

I THINK IT'S JUST UP TO THE CITY, WHAT YOU WANT TO NAME IT.

I KIND OF LIKE IT TO STAY THE BEARS, THE YOUTH AND ALL.

THE REASON I SAY THAT IS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THESE YOUTH ARE GOING TO BE USING THIS GOING ON IN THEIR COLLEGE.

SO I THINK MAYORS YOUTH CARRIES A LITTLE MORE WEIGHT THAN JUST A YOUTH ADVISORY.

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IF I'M PUTTING IT ON A COLLEGE APPLICATION, THAT WOULD BE MY ONLY THING.

I GOT BACK IN THE ICE STORM.

I REMEMBER CHIEF FREEMAN TRYING TO GET A HOLD OF THE SENIORS AND STUFF OF THAT NATURE.

THE SENIOR ADVISORY COMMITTEE COULD REALLY THAT DATABASE THAT WE NEED.

I KNOW THAT WAS WORKING WITH MEALS ON WHEELS TO TRY TO GET THAT INFORMATION.

THERE WAS A LOT OF SENIORS OUT THERE THAT WE DIDN'T KNOW WHERE THEY WERE.

SO MAYBE A SENIOR ADVISORY COMMITTEE COULD COULD HELP WITH THAT PROJECT ON AN EMERGENCY.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT ALL THEY DO, BUT WE MIGHT WANT TO TALK TO CHIEF FREEMAN ABOUT THAT AND SEE HOW HE FEELS ABOUT HAVING A SENIOR ADVISORY BOARD TO HELP CONTACT AND GET GET THIS DATABASE BUILT UP FOR HIM.

HE DID A PROGRAM CALLED, I BELIEVE IT'S CALLED ARE YOU OK, WHERE THEY TRIED TO BUILD UP A DATABASE AND WORK WITH THE DIFFERENT SENIOR CITIZENS TO TRY TO GET A LIST WHERE WE COULD CALL PEOPLE AND CHECK ON THEM DURING OUR STORMS. I WILL PULL BACK UP THE SENIOR ADVISORY COMMITTEE BECAUSE FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER HULSEY ACTUALLY HAD AN OUTLINE OF WHAT HE THOUGHT THEY WOULD BE DOING.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS WAS GIVING ADVICE ON PROGRAMING AT THE SENIOR CENTER.

THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I BELIEVE HE CAME UP WITH, BUT I'LL PULL ALL THAT INFORMATION BACK TOGETHER.

IF THE COUNCIL WOULD LIKE US TO ACTIVELY TRY TO PURSUE THAT.

THE OTHER PART OF THIS, THOUGH, MAYOR, IS THAT ANY BORDER COMMISSION, WHOEVER THEIR DEPARTMENT OR THEIR LIAISON IS GOING TO BE, IS GOING TO BE UP TO THE CITY MANAGER TO DECIDE WHICH ONES THEY WANT.

AND I BELIEVE THAT WOULD PROBABLY FALL CLOSER TO DEANNA'S BECAUSE OF THE SENIOR CENTER.

I'M NOT SURE. I'M LOOKING TO SEE IF ANYBODY MAKES EYE CONTACT WITH ME OUT THERE IN THE AUDIENCE, AND BUT IT COULD BE THERE.

DO YOU WANT US TO VOLUNTEER SOMEONE RIGHT NOW? WE MAY HAVE TO DO THAT, BUT IF THE COUNCIL WANTS TO GO THAT DIRECTION, WE COULD CERTAINLY LOOK AT SOME STAFF MEMBERS THAT COULD HELP BE LIAISON TO IT, AND IT COULD HIT A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT SUBJECT MATTERS DEPENDING ON WHAT YOU'RE ASKING TO DO.

I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY THE FIRST QUESTION IS WHAT'S YOUR GOAL? WHAT WOULD YOU WANT TO DO WITH IT? WHAT WOULD BE THE SUBJECTS YOU'D WANT TO COVER? AND I CAN I CAN PULL THAT INFORMATION AND THEN JUST SEND THAT OUT IN THE FRIDAY REPORT TO SEE.

THAT'S WHAT THE INITIALLY WHEN YOU GUYS TALKED ABOUT THIS COMMITTEE.

WELL, YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING HERE THAT I THINK IS IMPORTANT AND THAT'S YOU MENTIONED CRITERIA AND THEY HAD TO HAVE SOMETHING TO DO AND THEY HAD A DEFINITE PLAN.

LET ME TELL YOU THIS ABOUT SENIORS.

IF YOU GIVE THEM SOMETHING TO DO, THEY'RE GOING TO BE AND YOU SAY, REALLY WANT YOUR OPINION.

EXPECT IT. ALSO EXPECT THEM TO GET UPSET WITH YOU WHEN YOU DON'T ACCEPT THEIR OPINION.

SO I'M JUST SAYING THERE'S PROS AND CONS.

I AM ONE. SO THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE DOING BEFORE YOU JUMP OUT THERE.

WELL SAID.

ARE THERE ANY MORE ON HERE THAT COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO DO OR OR DO WE WANT TO JUST START WITH CHANGING THE MEMBERSHIP NUMBERS? I THINK THAT'LL HELP GREATLY TO INCREASE THE TERMS. AND THEN LOOKING AT THE THE SENIOR ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND THEN THE HOTEL MOTEL COMMITTEE, WE'RE GOING TO WAIT UNTIL YOU BRING BACK THE POLICY FOR THE GUIDELINES FOR THAT.

AND WHAT DO Y'ALL THINK ABOUT HAVING HAVING IT? YOU HAVE TO SIT OFF AT LEAST ONE TERM AT THE END OF YOUR WHENEVER YOU TERM OUT.

I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT BACK UP BECAUSE I WORRY A FULL TERM LIKE GOING BACK TO THAT THREE YEARS SEEMS LIKE A LONG TIME.

I WORRY ABOUT HOW MUCH THAT MIGHT DETER SOME.

LIKE RIGHT NOW WE DO HAVE A GOOD PROBLEM.

WE HAVE A BACKLOG OF PEOPLE.

BUT WHAT IF WE GET TO A POINT WHERE WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE THAT BACKLOG OR SOME OF OUR BOARDS ARE IN COMMITTEES ARE NOT AS WELL SOUGHT AFTER AS SOME OF OUR OTHER ONES.

AND SO I WOULDN'T WANT TO PUSH AWAY PARTICIPATING AND ENGAGED BOARD MEMBERS FROM ANY BOARD FROM SERVING ON ANOTHER ONE FOR A WHOLE THREE YEARS. SO I WOULD KIND OF THINK MAYBE ONE YEAR OFF.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT I JUST WORRY ABOUT DETERRING PEOPLE THAT ARE ACTIVELY PARTICIPATING.

I AGREE. THE THREE THE THREE KIND OF WORRIES ME A LITTLE BIT TOO.

THAT'S THE REASON THAT ORIGINALLY I WAS LIKE, WELL, FOR 2 TO 2 MAKES BETTER SENSE, BUT I'M OKAY WITH ONE.

TWO, I THINK. I THINK WE NEED A LITTLE BIT OF A BREAK, THOUGH.

CAN I THROW ANOTHER VIEWPOINT.

YES, SURE YOU WANT TO.

MY THOUGHTS. THE REASON FOR TERM LIMITS ARE JUST TO HAVE BREAKS IN WHO MAY OR MAY NOT BE GUIDING THE GENERAL NARRATIVE OF THAT COMMITTEE OVER A PERIOD

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OF TIME SO THAT FROM TIME TO TIME THE LEADERSHIP WILL JUST AUTOMATICALLY CHANGE.

AND ENTRENCHMENT IS WHAT WE'RE WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TRYING TO NOT HAVE.

BUT ON THE. THE OTHER HAND, IF A PERSON IS REALLY DEDICATED TO THE CITY AND WANTS TO GIVE OF THEMSELVES TO DO IT, IF YOU TAKE THEM OFF ONE COMMITTEE OR THEY ROLL OFF ONE COMMITTEE AND THEN THEY CHOOSE TO GO ON TO ANOTHER COMMITTEE, THEN THAT ACTUALLY MAKES IT POSSIBLE FOR THEM TO CONTINUE TO SERVE JUST IN A DIFFERENT CAPACITY AND ALSO MEETS THE OBJECTIVE OF NOT LETTING PEOPLE BUILD, YOU KNOW, AND BUILD THEMSELVES INTO A COMMITTEE WHERE THEY'RE JUST BASICALLY RUNNING IT THEMSELVES.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A PROBLEM OR NOT.

I DOUBT IT. BUT JUST LOOKING AT IT AS A MATTER OF SETTING POLICY, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THERE'S NO NEED TO SIT IDLE AND DO NOTHING FOR A PERIOD OF TIME.

JUST MOVE OVER TO ANOTHER COMMITTEE AND DO SOMETHING ELSE TO SERVE THE CITY IF YOU IF YOU WANT TO.

WELL, THAT'S FAIR ENOUGH. I AGREE WITH YOU.

I THINK I THINK WITH THE CUTS DOWN TO SIX YEARS, INCREASING THE NUMBERS UP TO NINE, I THINK THAT'S GOING TO OPEN UP.

THAT'S WAS MY BIGGEST CONCERN WAS ARE WE GOING TO HAVE THE POSITIONS AND PEOPLE BEING ABLE TO MOVE IN.

SO I DID WANT TO BRING THAT UP AGAIN.

BUT I DEFINITELY THINK THAT WITH THE INCREASE IN ENROLLMENT AND THE REDUCTION IN THE NUMBER OF YEARS, I DO THINK THAT'S GOING TO CREATE SOME OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE THAT HADN'T HAD THEM IN THE PAST.

SO ARE WE SAYING JUST REQUIRING A TERM TO STAY OFF JUST AFTER YOUR SIX YEARS ARE MET, THEN YOU CAN ROLL ONTO ANOTHER BOARD THAT'S OK.

SO THE WAY THAT IT'S THAT IT'S WORDED RIGHT NOW IS THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT YOU CAN DO.

YOU JUST CAN'T GO BACK RIGHT BACK ON TO YOUR BOARD THAT YOU WERE ON.

THAT'S EXACTLY HOW IT IS RIGHT NOW.

AND IF YOU'RE BUT IT'S STILL THREE, SO IT'S THREE YEAR TERM.

SO IF YOU'RE ON THE LIBRARY BOARD AND YOU TURN THEM INTO THE LIBRARY BOARD THAT VERY YEAR, YOU TERM OUT.

IF YOU APPLY FOR THE PARK BOARD, YOU CAN BE APPOINTED TO THE PARK BOARD, SERVE ANOTHER THREE YEAR TERM THERE.

AND IF YOU WANT TO GO BACK TO THE LIBRARY, WELL THEN AFTER THAT FULL TERM, THEN YOU CAN GO BACK TO THE LIBRARY, RIGHT? THAT'S KIND OF HOW IT WORKS RIGHT NOW.

SO ARE WE OKAY WITH THE WAY THAT IT'S WORKING THEN? YEAH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

I WILL SAY THAT YOU HAD TWO OPINIONS HERE ON THE MAYOR'S YOUTH COUNCIL.

WE KIND OF OUGHT TO ADDRESS THAT BEFORE WE LEAVE BECAUSE HEAD VICTORIA AND JIMMY.

SO I APPRECIATED WHAT JIMMY SAID THAT THAT'S A VERY VALID POINT ABOUT SOMETIMES IT'S GOING BACK TO HOW SOME THINGS NAMED OR WORDED CAN GIVE IT A LOT MORE STATURE THAN SAYING YOU SERVED ON AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

SO I COMPLETELY I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT AND I APPRECIATE THAT YOU MENTIONED THAT BECAUSE THAT CAN HAVE SOME WEIGHT ON A RESUME OR ON AN APPLICATION SOMEWHERE, HAVING A MAYOR'S NAME BEHIND SOMETHING.

IF IT SAID CITY COUNCILS, IT JUST DOESN'T HAVE THE SAME WEIGHT.

IF YOU JUST TAKE AWAY IF YOU JUST PUT IT AS ADVISORY COUNCIL, YOU KNOW, THAT BRINGS UP SOMETHING ELSE.

WE WRITE RECOMMENDATIONS TO UNIVERSITIES AND MAYBE INSTEAD OF JUST HAVING MY NAME ON IT, MAYBE WE'LL PASS IT AROUND FOR THE COUNCIL TO SIGN IT.

IS THAT GOOD OR BAD? DID I HEAR YOU CHOKE? OKAY. I THINK THAT WOULD HAVE VALIDITY AND I LIKE DOING THAT.

AND I'D LIKE TO HAVE THANK YOU CARDS WHERE THE COUNCIL SIGNS OFF ON THEM TOO.

IT MEANS A LOT TO PEOPLE.

THIS IS AN OUT-OF-THE-BOX THOUGHT, BUT IT RELATES TO YOUTH MEMBERS IN GENERAL SERVING ON COMMITTEES.

IT'S BEEN HALF A CENTURY SINCE I WAS IN HIGH SCHOOL, BUT MY RECOLLECTION OF BEING A HIGH SCHOOL STUDENT IS THAT YOUR ATTENTION SPAN PERHAPS GETS A LITTLE LONGER AS YOU MATURE, BUT AS A SOPHOMORE, YOU'RE PROBABLY NOT AS LIKELY TO GO OUT AND WANT TO SERVE ON SOMETHING LIKE THIS AS YOU MIGHT AS A JUNIOR OR A OR A SENIOR.

I WONDER IF THE THREE YEAR TERMS ARE APPROPRIATE FOR YOUTH MEMBERS BECAUSE OF THAT.

I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP, BECAUSE IT DOES AFFECT THEIR STATUS ON THE BOARD, BECAUSE A LOT OF THEM ARE MAYBE SERVING TWO YEARS AND THEN THEY'RE THEY'RE OFF BECAUSE THEIR AGE, BECAUSE THERE IS YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE TO BE IN HIGH SCHOOL.

SO THERE IS THAT AGE.

IT'S 13 TO 17 IS THE AGE TO BE THE YOUTH MEMBER.

YEAH. SO IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE ON ONE OF OUR BOARDS PUSHING.

SO I MEAN, I DID HAVE A VERY NICE YOUNG LADY WHO SERVED ON THE CEMETERY BOARD MANY YEARS AGO WHEN I WAS OVER IT.

AND I THINK WHEN THAT TOOK OVER, SHE WAS STILL THERE.

SHE STARTED WHEN SHE WAS IN HER MIDDLE SCHOOL AND WENT ALL THE WAY THROUGH GRADUATION.

BUT I BELIEVE THAT'S OUR ONLY YOUTH THAT'S EVER DONE THAT GOES CEMETERY BOARD.

SO WHAT WOULD YOU THINK, ONE OR TWO YEARS? I THINK MAYBE TWO OR EVEN JUST ONE.

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I MEAN, I'M THINKING MAYBE ONE YEAR AND NO TERM LIMITS ON THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE ONLY GOING TO GET ABOUT FOUR YEARS ANYWAY.

I LIKE YOUR THOUGHTS THERE.

AND IT ALSO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR SOMETHING TO PUT ON A COLLEGE APPLICATION, YOU KNOW, THE MORE OPPORTUNITIES KIDS GET TO SERVE.

ARE YOU OVERRUN WITH YOUTH APPLICANTS FOR COMMITTEES AS WELL AS.

ABSOLUTELY NOT.

WE STRUGGLE. WE STRUGGLE TO GET YOUTH MEMBERS ON THERE.

IN FACT, IT IS IT IS HARD TO GET WE WILL SIT VACANT FOR A YEAR OR BETTER ON BOARDS WITH YOUTH MEMBERS HAVING THAT SPOT.

BUT I WONDER SOME OF THAT TERM MIGHT BE A DETERRENT.

OH YES, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD SAY.

YEAH. YEAH. I THINK WE DO A ONE YEAR WITH NO LIMITS, AND I'M OPEN TO THE IDEA OF JUST FLIPPING IT TO ONE YEAR AND LET THEM STAY WITHOUT LIMIT.

YEAH. WITHOUT LIMIT. AND THEY CAN, THEY CAN BOUNCE FROM BOARD AND BOARD AUTOMATICALLY ANYWAY.

I MEAN IF THEY WANT TO DO A PART BOARD FOR A YEAR AND P AND Z FOR A YEAR AND WHATEVER FOR A YEAR, I MEAN WHATEVER THEY WANT TO PUT ON A RESUME.

YOU GUYS ARE OKAY WITH IT? IT'S STILL HARD TO ASK A 15 YEAR OLD TO COMMIT THREE YEARS, THREE DAYS OF ANYTHING.

SO I'LL BRING BACK THE AMENDMENT TO CHANGE THE YOUTH MEMBERS TO ONE YEAR TERMS WITH NO TERM LIMITS ON THOSE ONE YEAR TERMS. YES. SO I THINK I'VE GOT IT'S CLEAR AS DAY TO ME.

NO, IT REALLY IS.

THANK YOU. YOU ALL GAVE GOOD DIRECTION TODAY.

THANK YOU. AND I WILL WORK WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO BRING THIS BACK TO YOU AT THE DECEMBER MEETING.

AND WHEN I SAY CITY ATTORNEY, I MEAN MATT RIBITZKI.

[2B. Receive a report, hold a discussion and provide staff direction regarding the Public Art Committee. (Staff Presenter: Jen Basham, Director of Parks and Recreation).]

OKAY MAYOR AND COUNCIL, THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM 2B, RECEIVE A REPORT, HOLD A DISCUSSION AND PROVIDE STAFF DIRECTION REGARDING THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE.

THE STAFF PRESENTER THIS AFTERNOON IS JEN BASHAM, DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION.

JEN. ALL RIGHT, GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

THIS SHOULD BE A PRETTY SHORT PRESENTATION.

IT'S JUST AN UPDATE FROM WHEN WE MET IN OCTOBER.

JUST TO KIND OF REMIND YOU GUYS, WE STARTED A CONVERSATION IN PUBLIC ABOUT PUBLIC ART OVER A YEAR AGO.

PUBLIC ART CAN TAKE MANY FORMS. THERE'S A LIST OF THEM HERE AS FAR AS SCULPTURES, MURALS, LIGHTING, PHOTOGRAPHS, WATER FEATURES, PERFORMANCE ART, FILM, WRITTEN WORD.

THERE'S ALL KINDS OF OPPORTUNITY AND THEN PUBLIC ART HERE IN BURLESON.

SO NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES AND KEEP BURLESON BEAUTIFUL IMPLEMENTED A CALL FOR ART LAST YEAR TO INSTALL A MURAL AT BAILEY LAKE.

AND AT THE SAME TIME, CITY COUNCIL IDENTIFIED PUBLIC ART AS A PRIORITY IN THEIR 2022 STRATEGIC PLAN.

SO AFTER THAT MURAL WAS PUT IN PLACE AND COUNCIL IDENTIFIED THAT AS A PRIORITY, A STAFF PRESENTED THESE OPTIONS FOR FORMALIZING A BOARD OR COMMITTEE FOR PUBLIC ART ON OCTOBER 3RD.

CITY COUNCIL REQUESTED THAT WE CREATE A COMMITTEE WITH VARIOUS STAKEHOLDERS IN THE ART COMMUNITY, AND WE HAVE THAT LIST TO PRESENT TO YOU THIS EVENING.

SO THE MEMBERSHIP THAT WE HAVE CREATED, WE REQUESTED THAT THESE MEMBERS SERVE ON THE COMMITTEE, THAT THEY REPRESENT VARIOUS PERSPECTIVES REGARDING ART AND BEAUTIFICATION FOR THE COMMUNITY. SO THE FIRST MEMBER WE WERE LOOKING AT IS A VESTED INTEREST IN THE BEAUTIFICATION OF BURLESON, AND THAT WOULD BE CAITLIN REEVES, REPRESENTING KEEP BURLESON BEAUTIFUL EDUCATOR FOR THE ART FOR ART IN THE COMMUNITY.

WE WANTED ONE FROM THE ISD AND ONE FROM HILL COLLEGE.

SO JANA JACKSON WAS RECOMMENDED TO US FROM BISD AND NANCY MACKENZIE IS OVER THE ART DEPARTMENT FOR HILL COLLEGE.

AN EXISTING MEMBER OF OUR BOREN ART BOARD IS TOM SALE.

HE REPRESENTS THE BOARD AND PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE.

HE'S THEIR VOLUNTEER ART COORDINATOR.

AND THEN A VESTED INTEREST IN PRESERVING THE HISTORY OF BURLESON, WE'VE ASKED MISS BETTY BAILEY TO REPRESENT THE HERITAGE FOUNDATION.

ANY QUESTIONS ON THE MEMBERSHIP BEFORE I KIND OF GO INTO HOW WE CHOSE THESE PEOPLE? ALL RIGHT. SO THE COMMITTEE GUIDELINES THAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING MOVING FORWARD IS RESIDENCY.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S TYPICAL OF OUR BOARDS IS BECAUSE IT'S AN ADVISORY BOARD, WE ASK THAT THEY BE RESIDENTS DUE TO THE NATURE OF THIS SPECIFIC COMMITTEE.

A FEW OF THE MEMBERS THAT WE ARE PROPOSING ARE NOT CURRENTLY RESIDING WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS, BUT THEY DO SERVE THE COMMUNITY EITHER THROUGH THE ISD OR THROUGH THE ART BOARD. SO WE WANTED TO WAIVE THAT AS A REQUIREMENT FOR THIS COMMITTEE.

WE DID WANT TO PUT TERM LIMITS ON THIS TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.

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SO IN CONSISTENT WITH WHAT AMANDA JUST PRESENTED PRIOR TO THIS ONE, AND THEN BECAUSE THIS IS A COMMITTEE AND NOT AN OFFICIAL BOARD, WE DO NEED TO PUT A SUNSET DATE ON IT. SO WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT THIS COMMITTEE DISSOLVES AFTER THREE YEARS, BUT COUNCIL WILL ALWAYS HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO REINSTATE AT THEIR PLEASURE OR FORMALIZE THIS OUT A BOARD AS AN OFFICIAL BOARD AT THAT TIME, DEPENDING ON HOW THIS MOVES FORWARD.

AND SO IF COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO PROCEED AS PRESENTED THIS EVENING, I WILL MEET AND FORM THIS COMMITTEE.

THEY'VE ALL BEEN CONTACTED.

THEY'RE ALL EXCITED TO SERVE IF SELECTED ON TO SERVE ON THE COMMITTEE.

SO I WILL MEET WITH THEM AND THEN WE WILL GET TO WORK ON A PUBLIC ART MASTER PLAN, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE IDENTIFYING FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES, PLACEMENT AND STYLES, AND A CALL FOR ART SEQUENCING. THAT'S IT.

GO BACK TO WAIVING THE REQUIREMENT.

IS THERE NOT ANYBODY IN TOWN THAT COULD MEET THE CRITERIA? SO FOR WHERE IT GETS TRICKY IS BOREN ARTBOARD? NO. THERE'S NO BODY SERVING ON THEIR BOARD THAT ACTUALLY LIVES WITHIN CITY LIMITS.

HILL COLLEGE ACTUALLY ONLY HAS ONE PERSON IN THEIR ART DEPARTMENT RIGHT NOW.

SHE DOES NOT LIVE IN CITY LIMITS.

AND SO THOSE WERE THE TWO MEMBERS THAT WE DIDN'T, WE REALLY WANTED TO SERVE ON THIS COMMITTEE, AND THAT WOULD SERVE BECAUSE THEY KNOW OUR COMMUNITY VERY WELL, BUT THEY DO NOT RESIDE WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS.

SO I'D BE OKAY WITH WAIVING IT JUST THIS FIRST TIME THROUGH.

THEN WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT IT AGAIN IN THREE YEARS.

IS THAT CORRECT? YES.

SO WE WOULD DETERMINE IN THREE YEARS IF WE WANTED TO SUNSET THIS COMMITTEE OR WE WANTED TO FORMALIZE IT AS A BOARD AT THAT TIME.

ON THE START UP, I'D BE OKAY WITH THAT SAID OKAY WITH EVERYBODY ELSE? WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK? OH, YEAH.

I THINK YOU GUYS DID AN AWESOME JOB OF REPRESENTING SEVERAL DIFFERENT AREAS AND ALSO PIECES THAT HAVE VESTED INTERESTS.

THAT'S I'M REALLY APPRECIATIVE OF THE THOUGHT PROCESS BEHIND WHO YOU SELECTED AND WHY.

SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

HOW MANY MEMBERS WE HAVE ON THIS BOARD? SO THIS WILL BE FIVE.

IF SOMEONE DETERMINES THAT THEY DON'T WANT TO MOVE FORWARD, WE'LL BRING FORWARD A POTENTIAL NEW MEMBER TO SERVE.

ARE WE READY TO GO FORWARD? SO THIS IS NOT AN ACTION ITEM TONIGHT.

BUT IF THE COUNCIL IS AGREEABLE WITH THIS APPROACH, THEN WE'LL PUT A RESOLUTION ON FOR YOUR DECEMBER MEETING AND ASK YOU TO APPROVE IT AND GET STARTED.

THANK YOU. THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM TWO C.

[2C. Receive a report, hold a discussion and provide staff direction regarding the design and construction of Shannon Creek Park. (Staff Presenter: Jen Basham, Director of Parks and Recreation)]

RECEIVE A REPORT, HOLD A DISCUSSION AND PROVIDE STAFF DIRECTION REGARDING THE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION OF SHANNON CREEK PARK.

STAFF PRESENTERS. ONCE AGAIN, JEN BASHAM, DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION.

ALL RIGHT, SO WE'RE GOING TO GET STARTED.

YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THIS SINCE FEBRUARY, SO WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK OVER WHERE SHANNON CREEK SITS.

THE TOTAL PARK ACREAGE FOR SHANNON CREEK, THAT'S WITHIN A MILE OF THE PARK IS 90.

THE CURRENT PHASE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT DEVELOPING AS LITTLE UNDER 15 ACRES, LINEAR LINKAGES, WHICH MEANS EITHER TRAILS, UNPAVED TRAILS, NATURE TRAILS, LET ME SLOW DOWN, SIDEWALKS, ETC.

WE HAVE ABOUT 25 ACRES, AND THEN TOTAL ACRES, IF YOU INCLUDE THOSE LINEAR LINKAGES, IS 116 ACRES.

AND THIS PARK IS POSITIONED TO SERVE OVER 4000 HOUSEHOLDS WITHIN A MILE.

SO BACKGROUND, JUST A LITTLE BIT OF A TIMELINE.

WE IDENTIFY TRAIN AND CREEK IN 2019 AS PART OF OUR PARK AND RECREATION MASTER PLAN.

WE STARTED PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT ALL THE WAY BACK AT THE BEGINNING, MIDDLE OF 2021.

IN NOVEMBER OF 2021, WE PRESENTED TO PARK BOARD AND COUNCIL TO REQUEST WHICH LEVEL OF FUNDING WE WOULD LIKE TO PUT FORWARD IN THIS PARK AND COUNCIL AUTHORIZE US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A BUDGET OF $3.233 MILLION.

AND THEN THE FINAL DESIGN CONTRACT WAS PRESENTED TO COUNCIL ON FEBRUARY 7TH AND THAT COUNT THAT WAS AWARDED TO STUDIO OUTSIDE FOR $488,985. AND I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT THAT PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT LOOKED LIKE.

SO WHEN WE DID THAT FIRST ROUND BACK IN 2021, THESE WERE THE PREVALENT AMENITIES THAT WERE MOST WIDELY SUPPORTED.

SO NATURALIZED AREAS AND TRAILS.

REMEMBER, THIS PARK HAS BEEN COMPLETELY CLEARCUT.

THERE'S NOTHING OUT THERE BUT SOME PRAIRIE GRASSES AND WEEDS THAT HAVE GROWN BACK.

AND THEN THERE ARE TREES ALONG THE CREEK CORRIDOR.

THEY WERE LIKE PAVED TRAILS, A MANICURED OPEN SPACE, A LARGE BARRIER, FREE PLAYGROUND, FISHING POND, SPORTS COURT, FITNESS EQUIPMENT, PARKING IN A RESTROOM WITH THE LAST TWO BEING A 5050 SPLIT.

EITHER THEY REALLY WANTED IT OR THEY REALLY DIDN'T WANT IT AT ALL.

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SO ON THE TOP LEFT IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO SHOW YOU.

I'LL BE TALKING MORE ABOUT THIS THROUGH THE PHASING THAT WE'RE PROPOSING, BUT THIS IS WHAT WE WOULD CONSIDER NATURE PLAY.

SO WE'RE TAKING THINGS THAT NATURALLY OCCUR AND CREATING BASICALLY AN IMAGINATIVE SPACE THAT KIDS CAN PLAY ON.

IT'S REALLY SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T DETRACT FROM AN OPEN SPACE OR A NATURALIZED AREA, BUT IT STILL PROVIDES A LOT OF PLAY EQUITY.

ON THE TOP RIGHT IS JUST AN EXAMPLE OF A NATURE THEMED PLAYGROUND.

SO IF WE WERE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A PLAYGROUND AT THIS TIME, WE WOULD LOOK FOR SOMETHING THAT'S MORE NATURAL AND TONES AND COLORS AS WELL AS INCLUSIVE, BECAUSE THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WAS REQUESTED IN THIS AREA.

ON THE BOTTOM LEFT IS SOME EXAMPLES OF SOME FITNESS EQUIPMENT AND THEN BOTTOM RIGHT.

PEOPLE HAVE REQUESTED SPORTS COURTS, BUT WE DO NOT DETERMINE WHICH TYPE OF SPORTS COURT.

AND SO SOMETHING THAT'S A DEFICIT IN OUR SYSTEM BUT IS REALLY EASY TO INSTALL WOULD BE A VOLLEYBALL COURT.

SO THE SECOND ROUND OF PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT WE JUST FINISHED UP THIS AUGUST, WE DID AN ONSITE TOWN HALL ON AUGUST 10TH.

WE HAD 32 ATTENDEES ACTUALLY SIGN IN, BUT THERE WERE DEFINITELY MORE THAT JOINED THROUGHOUT THE MEETING THAT DID NOT SIGN IN, AND WE DID AN ONLINE SURVEY THAT HAD OVER 500 RESPONSES. SO THE STAND OUT COMMENTS FROM THE IN-PERSON TOWN HALL WAS DOING THE PARKING ALONG THE CREEK SIDE CORRIDOR ADJACENT TO THE GAS PAD THAT'S CURRENTLY NEXT TO THE PARK.

PEOPLE REALLY WANTED TO DO LIGHTED SPORTS COURTS, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IF THEY ARE LIGHTED, THEY CAN'T LIGHT ANYTHING OUTSIDE THE PERIMETER OF SAID COURT.

NO BATHROOMS NEAR ANY HOMES, NO PARKING ON STILLWATER'S AND FAMILIES WANT PLAY EQUIPMENT.

BUT THERE ARE OTHER FAMILIES THAT DID NOT WANT ANY PLAY EQUIPMENT OR OTHER RESIDENTS THAT BACK UP TO IT.

SO THAT ONE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A CONTROVERSIAL COMMENT.

BUT OVERWHELMINGLY AT THE END, FAMILIES WANTED PLAY EQUIPMENT IN THIS PARK AT SOME POINT, AND THEN EVERYONE WAS IN SUPPORT OF NATURE TRAILS AND THE POND, MOSTLY BECAUSE THE POND WILL BE A BEAUTIFUL AMENITY, BUT IT WILL ALSO ADDRESS A LOT OF DRAINAGE ISSUES ON THIS SITE.

SO ALL OF THE SURVEYS ASK THE SAME QUESTIONS AND PROPOSE THE SAME AMENITIES.

THEY JUST DID THEM IN DIFFERENT LAYOUTS AND CONFIGURATIONS.

SO SOMEHOW A SMALLER POND, A BIGGER POND, ONE BIG SECTION OF PARKING OR SMALLER POCKETS OF PARKING, BUT THEY ALL INCLUDED THE FOLLOWING AMENITIES PARKING, RESTROOM, NATURE AND PAVED TRAILS, A NATURAL PLAYGROUND, AND AN INCLUSIVE PLAYGROUND PLAY LAWN POND LANDSCAPING, SCREENING BETWEEN ALL OF THE HOMES AND THE PARK SPORTS COURT AND A PAVILION.

SO THIS IS A CLOSE. OF OPTION ONE THAT WAS ON THAT ONLINE SURVEY.

IT WAS ALSO AVAILABLE AT THE ONSITE TOWN HALL.

AND THIS JUST SHOWS YOU ONE OF THE OPTIONS THAT THE COMMUNITY HAD TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK ON.

SO BOTH IN PERSON AND ONLINE, THEY WERE ABLE TO LOOK AT THIS AND REACT TO IT.

DO I LIKE THIS? WHAT DO I NOT LIKE? I WOULD I LIKE EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS, BUT I WOULD MOVE THIS HERE.

I WOULD MAKE THIS SMALLER, I WOULD MAKE THIS BIGGER.

SO WE TOOK THAT FEEDBACK.

WE TOOK THE SAME FEEDBACK, SAME AMENITIES, DIFFERENT LAYOUT, AN OPTION TO AND THEN OPTION THREE, WHICH IS THE PREFERRED OPTION FROM THE ONLINE SURVEY IS THIS.

AND THIS IS GOING TO BE CLOSEST TO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO PRESENT FURTHER ON.

BUT IT SHOWS THE PARKING.

ADJACENT TO THE EXISTING GAS WELL, IT SHOWS THE POND IN THE BACK PART OF THE PARK ADJACENT TO SOME HOMES, BUT WILL ALSO BE WHERE THE PARK NATURALLY DRAINS TO. SO IT WOULD HELP WITH A LOT OF GRADING THE PLAY LAWN TRAILS THROUGHOUT SPORTS COURTS PLAY AREAS, AND THEN NATURAL TRAILS THAT WOULD EVENTUALLY CONNECT WAKEFIELD PARK AND THE COYOTE LOOP AND JENNIFER TRAILS TO THE PARK.

AND SO 71 OF THE 71% OF THE RESPONDENTS HAD CHILDREN, WITH 36% OF THOSE RESPONDENTS HAVING CHILDREN BETWEEN THE AGE OF ZERO AND FIVE.

38% REALLY LIKED OPTION ONE, 18% LIKED OPTION TWO AND 44% LIKED OPTION THREE.

THERE WERE ADDITIONAL REQUESTS BECAUSE WE DO ALWAYS LEAVE A QUESTION IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU DIDN'T SEE HERE THAT YOU'D LIKE TO SEE ADDED? AND THERE WERE MULTIPLE DOG PARK.

WE JUST BUILT OUR SPLASH PADS, SO WE DID NOT INCLUDE THAT IN OUR FUTURE PROGRAMING.

WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE EDUCATING THIS COMMUNITY THAT THERE IS A FREE AND AVAILABLE SPLASH PAD FOR THEM.

AND THEN WE DID PROGRAM A DOG PARK AS A POTENTIAL OPTION.

SO THE CURRENT CHALLENGES, THIS IS MY NEW FUN THING FUNDING, FEEDBACK AND PHASING.

SO WE AUTHORIZE A LITTLE OVER $3 MILLION LAST YEAR.

THAT'S WHAT'S IN OUR CIP THIS YEAR FOR CONSTRUCTION OF THIS PROJECT.

WHEN WE TOOK ALL OF THE FEEDBACK AND WE THREW IT ALL INTO THE PARK, THE OPINION TO OF PROBABLE COST TO CONSTRUCT THIS IS ALMOST SEVEN.

SO THAT NET DIFFERENCE IS ALMOST THREE AND ONE HALF MILLION DOLLARS.

AND WE ALSO HAVE A LOT OF MIXED FEEDBACK ON WHAT PEOPLE WANT IN THIS PARK.

BUT THE MAIN STUFF THAT EVERYBODY'S IN SUPPORT OF AND EXCITED ABOUT ARE THE PASSIVE COMPONENTS.

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SO NATURE TRAILS, GETTING THE DRAINAGE TAKEN CARE OF, GIVING THEM A POND, MAKING IT A BEAUTIFUL SPACE FOR PEOPLE TO ENJOY WAS ALL SUPPORTED BY THE COMMUNITY.

SO STAFF IS PROPOSING THAT WE BREAK THIS PROJECT UP INTO PHASES AND WE START WITH THAT PASSIVE STUFF THAT ADDRESSES ALL OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE REQUIREMENTS AND CREATES A BEAUTIFUL SPACE AND THEN PHASE IN THE OTHER REQUESTS FROM THE COMMUNITY AND FUTURE PHASES AS FUNDING BECOMES AVAILABLE.

SO PHASE ONE WOULD INCLUDE AND THIS IS A MENU, SO FEEL FREE TO DICE IT UP HOWEVER YOU WANT.

WE CAN MOVE IT UP AND CURRENT PHASES.

WE CAN MOVE IT BACK INTO LATER PHASES, HOWEVER YOU LIKE TO PROCEED, BUT A POND WOULD BE THE FIRST ONE BECAUSE THAT INCLUDES THE DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE SITE.

AND SO TO DEVELOP THIS PARK WITHOUT DOING THOSE IMPROVEMENTS WOULD BE A MISS FOR US.

THE PLAY LAWN IS JUST A GRADED IRRIGATED LAWN, SO A BIG AREA THAT'S FLAT.

WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF THAT IN OUR FIELD AND OUR SYSTEM RIGHT NOW.

THAT CAN JUST BE A GREAT SPACE THAT'S IRRIGATED, THAT STAYS TURF REALLY WELL FOR PEOPLE TO JUST GO PLAY, THROW A BALL, KICK A SOCCER BALL, PAVE TRAIL, A NATURE TRAIL, WHICH WOULD JUST BE A DECOMPOSED GRANITE TRAIL THAT WE MAINTAIN A NATURAL PLAYGROUND.

SO WE WOULD HAVE PLAY IN THIS FIRST PHASE, BUT IT WOULD BE A NATURAL PLAY AREA THAT WOULD NOT BE A SITE OBSTRUCTION TO SOME PEOPLE.

PARKING. WE ARE STILL RECOMMENDING BASED ON THE SIZE OF THIS PARK AND ITS LOCATION AND THE FACT THAT WE KNOW PEOPLE WILL WANT TO PARK ON THOSE NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS IF WE DON'T PUT PARKING, WE ARE PROPOSING TWO OF THE LOTS GET CONSTRUCTED IN THIS FIRST PHASE AND THEN EVERYTHING AND YOU SEE IN THE RIGHT COLUMN ISN'T REALLY THE FUN STUFF, BUT GENERAL COST CONTINGENCY CONTRACT OR TERMS AND CONDITIONS AND OVERHEAD.

SO THIS WOULD KEEP US RIGHT ON TASK AND TAKE ABOUT TWO YEARS TO FINALIZE, DESIGN AND CONSTRUCT RIGHT ON YOUR 3.3 MILLION BUDGET.

ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY, I'LL MOVE ON.

SO PHASE.

SORRY. SO, PHASE TWO, WE'RE LOOKING AT ADDING THAT RESTROOM AND THEN STARTING KIND OF THAT TRANSITION FROM CREATING A PASSIVE SPACE TO AN ACTIVE SPACE, SOMETHING THAT WAS REQUESTED THAT STAFF DIDN'T PUT IN THE SURVEYS, BUT IT WAS PREVALENTLY REQUESTED WAS THE DOG PARK.

SO WHAT WE WERE LOOKING AT PROPOSING, WHICH IS WHY YOU SEE SUCH AN ECONOMICAL COST ON THERE IS A ONE BIG LOT SPACE IRRIGATED TURF WITH A FOUNTAIN, JUST A VERY SIMPLE SPACE.

BUT THIS IS ON THE OPPOSITE END OF TOWN FROM OUR EXISTING DOG PARK.

SO WE COULD BUILD SOMETHING THAT WOULD PROVIDE THAT BUT WOULDN'T BE THE MAIN USE OF THIS SPACE.

THE ADDITION OF THAT LAST PARKING LOT AND THEN CONTINGENCY CONTRACTOR CONDITIONS AND OVERHEAD LOOKING AT $1,000,000 AND NINE MONTHS TO DESIGN AND CONSTRUCT.

AND THEN PHASE THREE IS WHEN WE REALLY GET ACTIVE AND WE START ADDING OUR OUR PAVILION RESTROOM COMBO, OUR INCLUSIVE PLAYGROUND OR PLAYGROUND IN GENERAL, SOME SPORTS COURTS, RAIN GARDEN AND PLANTINGS, CONTINGENCY CONTRACTOR CONDITIONS AND OVERHEAD.

AND THEN WE DO HAVE ADDITIONAL DESIGN COSTS BECAUSE WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT HERE THAT WOULDN'T BE INCLUDED IS THIS IS GOING TO BE STARTED 3 TO 5 YEARS FROM NOW.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO NEW PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET NEW FEEDBACK.

AND MOST LIKELY IT WOULD CHANGE.

SO IF WE WERE TO DESIGN THIS AT THIS POINT, WE WOULD BE CHANGING IT THEN.

SO WE'RE WAITING TO DO THIS FINAL DESIGN OF THIS FINAL PHASE UNTIL WE GET TO THAT POINT.

AND THIS WOULD BE AN ESTIMATED 24 MONTHS TO DESIGN AND CONSTRUCT AS WELL.

SO THE DIRECTION THAT WE'RE REQUESTING FROM COUNCIL THIS EVENING IS TO COMPLETE THIS PROJECT IN ONE PHASE, WHICH WOULD TAKE 36 MONTHS.

IT WOULD BE A SHORTER TIME FRAME, BUT WE DON'T HAVE ALL THAT FUNDING ALLOCATED.

SO WE WOULD HAVE TO SHIFT SOME OTHER PROJECTS AROUND OR COMPLETE THE PROJECTS IN PHASES, WHICH IS WHAT STAFF IS RECOMMENDING AND WHAT PARK BOARD RECOMMENDED.

WHEN WE PRESENTED THIS TO THEM LAST THURSDAY OR TO NOT PROCEED WITH THE PROJECT.

ON THE, WHERE ARE YOU PLANNING THE PARKING? SO THERE'S WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS THREE LOTS RIGHT NOW, TWO OF WHICH WOULD BE NEXT TO THE EXISTING GAS WELL, AND ONE WOULD BE WHERE THERE'S EXISTING PARKING AND EXPANDING IT, WHICH IS, AGAIN, SOMETHING THAT WE WILL STILL FINALIZE.

BUT IT'S THE TWO LOTS THAT WE'RE PROPOSING.

WE DO HAVE THE ESTIMATED COST FOR ONE OF THOSE ON STILLWATER, I GUESS, OR WHERE? NEITHER ONE OF THEM ARE ON STILLWATER RIGHT NOW.

ONE IS ON THE SOUTH END OR THE NORTH END OF THE GAS WELL, AND ONE COMES DIRECTLY OFF OF CANDLER.

OKAY, GOOD.

I WANT TO I WANT TO THANK YOU, FIRST OF ALL, FOR WHAT YOU DID OUT THERE ON THE SCENE WHERE YOU HAD THE DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT WALK AROUND THAT WAS VERY NICE THAT ALLOW PEOPLE TO HAVE A HANDS ON. SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.

I APPRECIATE THIS THREE PHASE PROCESS.

PHASE ONE BEING PASSIVE DEFINITELY, DEFINITELY IS SOMETHING THAT EVERYBODY I THINK AGREED TO.

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NOW, ONCE WE GET PAST PHASE ONE, THAT'S WHEN THE CONTROVERSY COMES IN AND SOME DISSENSION.

BUT I THINK EVERYBODY REALLY ENJOYED PHASE ONE SO THAT IT GIVES US TIME TO HAVE MEANINGFUL DISCUSSIONS ON PHASE TWO AND THREE.

SO I'M IN FAVOR OF WHAT YOU ALL PRESENTED.

WE KNOW WE NEED TO ADDRESS THE DRAINAGE AND I THINK GIVING MAKING IT A BEAUTIFICATION THING AT THE SAME TIME AND MAKING IT SOMETHING THAT LOOK IS NICE TO LOOK AT BUT ADDRESSES THE ISSUES THAT THEY'RE HAVING.

I THINK THAT'S A THAT'S A WIN AND IT'S A IT'S A NICE AREA.

IF THERE'S TRAILS, IF THERE'S AREAS THAT PEOPLE CAN ENJOY, BUT NOT NECESSARILY THE CONTROVERSY OR THE COMMENTS BACK AND FORTH ARE WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE CONGREGATING, BUT IT'S A SPACE THAT CAN BE UTILIZED BETTER THAN WHAT IT IS.

AND SO IT'D BE NICE TO HAVE PATHS AND A NICE SCENIC AREA TO ENJOY VERSUS JUST FLOODING AND HAVING A MOSQUITO SWAMP LAND.

I THINK THE ONLY CHANGE I'D SUGGEST IS MOVING THE RESTROOM INTO THE FIRST PHACE.

OKAY. I MEAN, THIS IS A KIND OF PARK WHERE PEOPLE GO AND STAY A WHILE.

IT'S A BAILEY LAKE TYPE PARK, BAILEY LAKE HAS A RESTROOM.

SOME DO, SOME DON'T.

THE LITTLE POCKET PARKS GENERALLY DON'T.

BUT THIS IS A PLACE WHERE YOU'D GO AND SPEND SOME TIME.

AND I THOUGHT. I GUESS I'VE GOT STICKER SHOCK ON THIS.

WE WERE KIND OF BLOWN THE BUDGET OUT OF THE WATER.

I LIKED THE WAY YOU BROKE IT DOWN.

GOING INTO PHASES, THAT'S GOING TO BE IMPORTANT TO US.

BUT WE NEED. WE NEED TO KEEP IT AROUND THE $3 MILLION PRICE TAG ON THIS.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE GOT MONEY TO GO ANY MORE THAN THAT.

AND THAT'S THE REASON I LIKE THE PHASES IS BECAUSE WE WE CAN DO PHASE ONE WITHOUT DOING PHASE TWO AND PHASE THREE IF IT ULTIMATELY COMES TO THAT.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT COMMITTED TO ANYTHING.

WE'RE JUST COMMITTED TO PHASE ONE, WHICH IS IN OUR BUDGET.

DEFINITELY WE CAN DO TWO AND THREE IF THE MONEY COMES UP AND THE CITIZENS WANT US TO DO IT DOWN THE ROAD.

I MEAN, WE CAN IMPACT THAT.

BUT PHASE ONE IS WITHIN THE BUDGET RANGE AND IT'S WHAT EVERYBODY WANTS.

WELL, ONE SUGGESTION FOR THE COUNCIL TO THINK ABOUT IS IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR THE RESTROOMS, SOME OF THESE ARE PLUG AND PLAY.

YOU COULD DO DIFFERENT COMBINATIONS OF THINGS AS WE COULD LOOK AT A BIT, ALTERNATE FOR ONE OF THE PARKING LOTS, FOR BOTH THE PARKING LOTS AND THE RESTROOM.

AND THE ONCE WE GOT THE BIDS BACK IN, WE WOULD HAVE A BETTER IDEA OF WHAT THE FULL COST IS AND THE COUNCIL COULD MAKE A DECISION AT THAT POINT HOW YOU WANTED TO PROCEED.

CERTAINLY IF YOU WANTED TO PROCEED, JUST PUT IT ALL IN DESIGN AT ALL AND DO ONE BID.

WE COULD DO THAT, BUT WE COULD ALSO GIVE YOU SOME GOOD ALTERNATES SO YOU COULD UNDERSTAND IT.

THESE ARE ESTIMATED COSTS.

WE HOPE THEY'RE THEY'RE GOOD COST, BUT IT'S DIFFICULT TO PREDICT WHAT THEY'LL BE IN A FEW MONTHS.

AND THERE IS A HEALTHY CONTINGENCY ON THIS RIGHT NOW.

SO IF WE CAN SHRINK THAT AS WE GET FURTHER IN DESIGN, THEN HOPEFULLY WE WOULD BE ABLE TO SAVE MONEY THERE AS WELL.

AND BELIEVE ME BACK THEN, I DON'T KNOW WHERE TO GO WITH THIS.

WE WANT TO GO AHEAD AND GO FORWARD WITH THE FIRST PHASE.

I THINK THAT'S THE CONSENSUS AND I THINK IT'S MOST RESPONSIVE TO THE RESIDENTS.

I KNOW MR. STANFORD AND I WERE OUT THERE AT THE PUBLIC MEETING.

I ALSO WANT TO SAY HOW GREAT YOUR STAFF DID ON THAT.

IT WAS ABSOLUTELY. WE HAD A NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES OUT THERE, BUT THE PARTICIPATION WAS OVERWHELMING AND IT WAS GREAT.

IT WAS GOOD TO HEAR, EVEN IF EVEN IF SOME OF IT WAS, YOU KNOW, SOME SAY YES, SOME SAY NO.

IT'S JUST GOOD TO HAVE THAT KIND OF PARTICIPATION AND TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS GOING IN THEIR BACKYARD.

AND SO I THINK THAT, AS PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED IT, PHASE ONE IS ADDRESSING THE CONCERNS, THE ISSUES THAT THEY'RE HAVING OUT THERE.

LIKE WE KNOW PARKING IS TAKING PLACE ON THE STREET.

SO LET'S BUILD A PARKING LOT THAT DIVERTS THAT PARKING OFF OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS.

WE KNOW DRAINAGE IS AN ISSUE, SO LET'S ADDRESS THAT.

I THINK IT ADDRESSES THE NEEDS FIRST AND THEN ANYTHING THAT CAN COME AFTER THAT IS CONTINGENT ON IF THAT'S TRULY WHAT THAT COMMUNITY WANTS AND IF AND WHEN FUNDING COMES AVAILABLE, BE MINDFUL THAT SOME OF THE PEOPLE WERE KIND OF PICKY WHERE THE RESTROOM IS GOING TO BE.

YES. SO WE'RE NOT DONE WITH PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, I PROMISE.

SO IF COUNCIL'S RECOMMENDING THAT WE MOVE FORWARD IN THE PHASING, WE'LL START DESIGN AND CONVERSATIONS ON WHAT THAT PASSIVE SPACE LOOKS LIKE.

WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO INCLUDE THE RESTROOM IN THAT DESIGN? I BELIEVE SO, YES.

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OKAY. THANK YOU. RUSH, I SAY THE RESTROOM CLOSER TO THE PARKING.

YEAH. BE GOOD.

DID YOU? BILL JANIS, 117 NORTHEAST CLINTON.

YOU GUYS HEARD ME TALK ABOUT FLOOD WATERS AND ALL THAT.

I'M GLAD THIS IS GOING TO BE TAKEN CARE OF.

I'M JUST KIND OF CURIOUS WHERE THE WATER IS GOING TO GO.

AND BATHROOMS, EVERYBODY'S GOT TO GO TAKE A LEAK EVERY NOW AND THEN.

SO WHEN I GET TO EVERYBODY, WE GOT HANDICAPPED KIDS PHYSICALLY, MENTALLY, SENSORY CHALLENGED.

HOW ARE THEY GOING TO GET ACROSS THE GRAVEL? SO THERE'S BOTH PAVED AND NATURE TRAILS.

BOTH OPTIONS WILL BE AVAILABLE.

BUT YOU UNDERSTAND SOME OF THESE FEATURES.

THAT'S LIKE A STAB IN HEART TO A KID WHEN THEY PULL UP AND THEY CAN'T PARTICIPATE AND IT'S A PUNCH IN THE GUT TO PARENTS.

I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY UP HERE OR IF ANYBODY IN PARKS HAS A PHYSICALLY, MENTALLY HURT OR SENSORY CHALLENGED KID.

I'VE SEEN IT TIME AND TIME AGAIN WHERE THEY JUST SIT.

THAT'S HEARTBREAKING. WE CAN DO BETTER AS A CITY.

I THINK YOU GUYS NEED TO GO WITH THESE KIDS.

AND CHRIS, I'M GLAD THAT YOU STOOD FIRM WITH THE $3 MILLION, BUDGET.

WELL, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO GIVE THE CITIZENS WHAT THEY WANT.

AND WHEN YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE OTHER PARKS, WE'RE KIND OF GOING OVERBOARD ON THAT.

I AGREE. BUT THERE'S WAYS TO SPEND MONEY.

BUT WE'VE GOT TO TAKE CARE OF SOME OF THESE KIDS.

I UNDERSTAND. AND I GOT TO I GOT TO STAND UP FOR JAN ON THIS.

SHE HAS BEEN INCLUSIVE ON A LOT OF THESE NEW PLAYGROUNDS.

AND TAKING THAT IN CONSIDERATION..

BUT WE DO GOT ONE NEW PARK COMING UP.

I THINK I'VE SEEN A DESIGN THE OTHER DAY.

IT'S GOT A BRIDGE TO NOWHERE.

IT'S GOT A RAMP. WHERE'S A HANDICAPPED KID GOING TO GO WHEN THEY GET TO TOP OF THAT? I CAN'T ANSWER THAT.

NO, I UNDERSTAND.

BUT SHE HAS BEEN MAKING A VALID EFFORT ON THIS.

LIKE I SPOKE OUT A LONG TIME AGO, I THINK, TO THE PARKS BOARD.

THERE'S A MAN BACK IN THE SEVENTIES.

I MEAN, HIS SON WAS A YEAR YOUNGER THAN ME, AND HIS DAUGHTER IS THREE YEARS YOUNGER.

MR. KENDRICK. HE TRIED TO GET CERTAIN SIMPLE THINGS DONE.

NOBODY LISTENED. SOMEBODY FROM BURLESON STARTED FOLLOWING HIM AROUND TO EACH BUSINESS.

HE WHEELED UP, COULDN'T GET UP ONTO THE JUST TO EVEN GO BUY A SHIRT OR UNDERWEAR OR SOCKS.

HIS PICTURE WAS ON THE FRONT PAGE OF THE PAPER IN FRONT OF HIS BUSINESSES.

HE COULD FIT QUITE A FEW DISABLED PEOPLE IN HERE.

I THINK IF YOU GOT ENOUGH IN HERE, I THINK YOU GUYS WOULD CHANGE YOUR MIND.

JAN, CAN YOU LOOK INTO THAT? THE PARK IS ITS DESIGN WILL BE ADA ACCESSIBLE, SO YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO ACCESS ALL AMENITIES WITHIN THIS PARK.

IN THE IN THE FIRST PHASE, IT'S ALL PASSIVE.

SO EVEN THE DG TRAILS, IT HAS TO BE COMPACTED SO THAT A WHEELCHAIR COULD ROLL OVER IT AND UNDERSTAND SOME OF THAT.

AND I'VE HAD ISSUES WITH VERTIGO AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

SO THIS IS AS HIGH AS I'M GOING.

ALL RIGHT. I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS.

I WAS GOING TO SAY THE PARKS THAT AND I APPRECIATE YOU JEN, GREATLY BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE YOU DO PUT A LOT OF EFFORT INTO MAKING SURE THE PARKS ARE ADA COMPATIBLE AND COMPLIANT.

SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.

OKAY. JUST TO RECAP.

SO I THINK WHAT WE'VE HEARD IS THE PASSIVE DESIGN WITH THE RESTROOMS TO GO AHEAD AND PROCEED WITH THAT AND BRING YOU BACK THAT AS A COMPLETED DESIGN AND CONTRACT.

SO WE'LL PROCEED WITH THAT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

[10. RECESS INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION]

AT THIS TIME CITY MANAGER WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION? OKAY.

SO AT THIS TIME, WE DO HAVE A NEED FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO SECTION 551.071, THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE.

THE COUNCIL RESERVES THE RIGHT TO CONVENE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION NECESSARY DURING THIS MEETING FOR POSTED AGENDA ITEMS PURSUANT TO SECTION 551.071551.072 AND 551.087.

MAYOR, IF YOU COULD ASK FOR A MOTION, PLEASE.

IS THERE A MOTION TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION? SO I HAVE A MOTION BY JIMMIE AND A SECOND BY DAN.

ALL IN FAVOR, MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUS.

GOING INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AT 4:45.

YES. THANK YOU. I WAS GENTLY REMINDED THAT WE ARE USING DIGITAL VOTING.

THAT'S WHY YOU DID THAT. IS THERE A MOTION TO RECONVENE?

[RECONVENE INTO OPEN SESSION]

SO MOVE. SECOND.

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I HAVE A MOTION BY JIMMY AND A SECOND BY RICK.

PASSES UNANIMOUS, WE'LL RECONVENE AT 5:30.

THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

[3B. Presentations]

THAT BRINGS US TO SECTION THREE, PUBLIC PRESENTATIONS.

THERE ARE NO PROCLAMATIONS AT THIS TIME.

HOWEVER, THERE IS A 3B PRESENTATIONS RECOGNITION OF EMPLOYEE OF THE THIRD QUARTER 2022.

MR. RICK DEORDIO, HUMAN RESOURCES DIRECTOR, WILL BE PRESENTING.

THANKS, AMANDA. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

RICK DEORDIO, HR DIRECTOR.

I'D LIKE TO SPEND A MOMENT AND TALK TO YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR EMPLOYEE OF THE QUARTER FOR THE THIRD QUARTER.

THE EMPLOYEE OF THE QUARTER IS NOMINATED FROM OTHER CITY EMPLOYEES AND THE RECIPIENT IS SELECTED BY THE EMPLOYEE OF THE QUARTER COMMITTEE, WHICH IS MADE UP OF PEER EMPLOYEES REPRESENTED FROM A CROSS-SECTION OF DEPARTMENTS AND PRIOR EMPLOYEE OF THIS QUARTER RECIPIENTS.

I AM PLEASED TO PRESENT THE EMPLOYEE OF THE THIRD QUARTER, BEN EASON.

BEN HAS BEEN WITH THE CITY FOR APPROXIMATELY EIGHT YEARS, STARTING IN NOVEMBER OF 2014 AS A FIREFIGHTER.

BEN YOU WANT TO COME UP HERE.

THIS WAS REALLY GREAT.

BEN WAS NOMINATED FOR AN ACTIVE SERVICE BEYOND HIS REQUIRED JOB DUTIES.

AFTER A CALL OF SERVICE FOR A CITIZEN, BEN ASKED TO BE ABLE TO GO BACK TO A CITIZEN'S HOUSE AFTER HE HAD FALLEN WHILE MOWING HIS YARD.

AND BEN WANTED TO GO BACK OUT THERE AND FINISH THE MOWING SINCE THE INJURY WOULD TAKE SOME RECOVERY TIME.

MORE THAN ONE PERSON IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT CONTRIBUTED THAT DAY TO HELP THE CITIZEN, BUT BEN WAS A CATALYST IN RECOGNIZING THE NEED AND PUT THE ACTION IN MOTION.

BEN LOOKS FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO SERVE.

HE'S ALSO DESCRIBED AS SOMEONE THAT GOES ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT IS EXPECTED AND REPRESENT A SERVANT'S HEART DAILY.

BEN'S COMMAND STAFFS SAY THAT HE IS HIS ATTITUDE IS ALWAYS GREAT.

HE GOES THE EXTRA MILE AND EVERY SHIFT ASSISTS WITH TRAINING NEW PERSONNEL AND HELPS OTHERS WITH PARAMEDIC CLASS.

AS WE UNDERGO MAJOR ENHANCEMENTS TO OUR FIRE AND EMS SERVICES WITHIN THE CITY, THESE ATTRIBUTES ARE CRITICAL TO SUCCESS.

AND WE WANT TO THANK BEN EASON FOR HIS SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY AND WITHIN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

SO THANK YOU.

IF YOU ALL WOULD, PLEASE JOIN US FOR A PICTURE WITH BEN.

THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM 3C, COMMUNITY INTEREST ITEMS, CITY COUNCIL.

I'LL MENTION THE EVENT WE HAD AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

BELIEVE IT WAS FRIDAY, IT WAS THE FOUNDATION FOR THE DEATH THAT CAME FROM KIDS, THAT CAME FROM, I BELIEVE WAS CROWLEY.

IS THAT RIGHT CHIEF, AS A GREAT DAY, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TOOK THEM THROUGH THE BUILDING AND I BELIEVE CHIEF SAID THEY WERE THERE FROM 10:00 TO 2:00, THAT THEY THEY WERE SERVED DINNER.

WE MET OFFICER TREVINO, THE FIRST DEAF POLICEMAN IN THE STATE OF TEXAS, SECOND IN THE UNITED STATES.

WHAT A GIRL.

BEAUTIFUL YOUNG LADY.

THAT WAS EXTREMELY BRIGHT AND I BELIEVE TALENTED.

SHE WAS FROM [INAUDIBLE].

IS THAT RIGHT, CHIEF? AND JUST THE KIND THAT I THINK EVERY CITY IN THE UNITED STATES WOULD WANT.

SO, CHIEF, CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU FOR PUTTING ON A GREAT DEAL FOR THEM.

AND I THOROUGHLY ENJOYED IT.

[3C. Community Interest Items]

IT IS GLOBAL ENTREPRENEURSHIP WEEK.

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AND IF YOU HAVEN'T HEARD OF IT, I DON'T KNOW.

I GUESS IT'S BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T BROUGHT IT DOWN HERE YET.

BUT IT IS.

GW NORTH TEXAS IS PART OF A CONCERTED EFFORT BY JEN GLOBAL TO HAVE EVENTS FOCUSED ON ENTREPRENEURSHIP ONE WEEK A YEAR AROUND THE GLOBE.

THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR YEARS.

EACH NOVEMBER, GLOBAL ENTREPRENEURSHIP WEEK REACHES MILLIONS OF PEOPLES OF ALL AGES AND BACKGROUNDS THROUGH LOCAL, NATIONAL AND GLOBAL EVENTS AND ACTIVITIES.

AND GE NORTH TEXAS THIS YEAR HAS CHANGED TO BE FULL NORTH TEXAS, INCLUDING TARRANT COUNTY, COLLIN COUNTY, DENTON COUNTY, AND DALLAS COUNTY.

AND THEY'VE HAD DIFFERENT EVENTS GOING ON, STARTING KICKING OFF YESTERDAY AT THE HEARST CONVENTION CENTER, GOING ON FROM DALLAS TO FORT WORTH TO DENTON, AND ALL IN BETWEEN.

THERE ARE A MULTITUDE OF EVENTS GOING ON EVERY SINGLE DAY, AND THEY'RE FREE.

AND FOR ENTREPRENEURS, BUDDING ENTREPRENEURS, IF YOU WANT TO CONNECT WITH ENTREPRENEURS, YOU CAN GO AND FIND OUT ABOUT THESE EVENTS AT GEWNTX.CO.

I PARTICULARLY WANTED TO BRING UP AN EVENT TOMORROW CALLED THE BUSINESS OF MONEY FOR WOMEN ENTREPRENEURS, AND THIS IS A TWO HOUR EVENT ALL FREE WITH A KEYNOTE SPEAKER AND A PANELIST OF FOUR WOMEN WHO WILL BE THERE TO DISCUSS WITH YOU ANY AND ALL THINGS ABOUT MONEY, FINDING MONEY, GETTING FUNDING, HOW TO DO YOUR FINANCIALS, CASH FLOW, PROFITABILITY, GROWTH AND ETC..

AND THEN THE OFFICIAL FORT WORTH NETWORKING FOR GLOBAL ENTREPRENEURSHIP WEEK IS HAPPENING THIS THURSDAY.

IT'S THE ONLY ONE THAT'S HAPPENING IN FORT WORTH IN THE EVENING, AND THAT IS FROM 530 TO 8:00.

YOU CAN GO ON TO GEWNTX.CO TO FIND OUT MORE.

I WANTED TO MAKE A PLUG FOR THE FARMER'S MARKET THIS SATURDAY.

IT WILL BE IN THE PLAZA FROM 8 TO 1.

AND SO IT'S GOING TO BE A SPECIAL HOLIDAY MARKET.

AND I JUST WANTED TO GO AHEAD AND ALSO SAY THANK YOU TO IT'S GOING IT'S LEADING INTO THE CHRISTMAS SEASON AND THERE'S A LOT OF FUN STUFF PLANNED FOR B-TEXMAS.

AND WE HAVE THE ANNUAL ROTARY PARADE, THE TREE LIGHTING.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE NEW DRONE SHOW THIS YEAR INSTEAD OF FIREWORKS.

THERE WILL BE A LOT OF ACTIVITIES, THINGS GOING ON AT THE AT RUSSELL FARM.

AND SO IN ADVANCE, I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO ALL THE DEPARTMENTS THAT MAKE THIS POSSIBLE AND PUT IN A LOT OF EFFORT TO ENSURE THAT OUR FAMILIES IN OUR COMMUNITY GET TO ENJOY THE HOLIDAY SEASON.

SO THANK YOU ALL IN ADVANCE AND AND MAKE SURE YOU STOP BY ONE OF THOSE EVENTS.

THE LIBRARY HAS SOMETHING GOING, THE SENIOR CENTER HAS SOMETHING GOING.

PRETTY MUCH EVERY FACET OF THIS COMMUNITY WILL HAVE AN ACTIVITY.

SO TAKE ADVANTAGE AND ENJOY THE HOLIDAY SEASON.

THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

[4. CHANGES TO POSTED AGENDA]

THAT BRINGS US TO SECTION FOUR.

CHANGES TO THE POSTED AGENDA FOR A IS ITEMS TO BE CONTINUED OR WITHDRAWN FOR B R ITEMS TO BE WITHDRAWN FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR A SEPARATE DISCUSSION BY THE CITY COUNCIL.

THESE ITEMS CAN BE REMOVED BY CITY COUNCIL STAFF OR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC IN ATTENDANCE ITEMS TO BE ADDED TO THE CONSIDERED.

THE CONSENT AGENDA I'M SORRY REQUIRES AN OFFICIAL VOTE BY THE CITY COUNCIL.

ARE THERE ANY ITEMS TO BE WITHDRAWN FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA, EITHER BY STAFF, BY CITY COUNCIL OR BY ANY MEMBER IN THE AUDIENCE? YOU ARE. WE'RE GOOD.

THANK YOU. THAT'LL MOVE US ON TO SECTION FIVE CITIZENS APPEARANCE.

[5. CITIZENS APPEARANCES]

EACH PERSON IN ATTENDANCE WHO DESIRES TO SPEAK TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON AN ITEM NOT POSTED ON THE AGENDA FOR ACTION SHALL SPEAK DURING THIS SECTION.

A SPEAKER CARD MUST BE FILLED OUT AND TURNED INTO MY OFFICE HERE PRIOR TO ADDRESSING THE CITY COUNCIL.

EACH SPEAKER WILL BE ALLOWED 3 MINUTES.

MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF SPEAKER CARDS HERE.

THE FIRST SPEAKER CARD IS ADELE PARKER.

SORRY, MISS PARKER, IF YOU COULD USE THIS MICROPHONE HERE ON THIS SIDE.

THANK YOU. AND IF YOU COULD JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS ADELE PARKER.

I LIVE AT 336 SOUTH DOBSON.

AND I'M COMING WITH SOME OF MY NEIGHBORS.

SO, D.J., DOES ONE COME UP? I'M COMING. I REPRESENT MY NEIGHBORS, THE RESIDENTS AND COMMUNITY OF SOUTH DOBSON, NOLA SCHOOL AND OPEN DOOR CHURCH, AS WELL AS THE MONTESSORI SCHOOL AT THE END OF DOBSON.

WE ARE ASKING YOUR CONSIDERATION RIGHT NOW FOR SOME KIND OF SPEED RESISTANT.

BUMPS, DIPS, RADAR, SOMETHING.

WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE WAS SOME KIND OF A SPEED SURVEY DONE AND SOME OF THE VEHICLES WERE GOING UP TO 65 MILES PER HOUR

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ON OUR STREET.

IT'S BECOME HAZARDOUS TO CHECK OUR MAIL, TO WALK OUR DOGS, EVEN TO PULL OUT OF OUR DRIVEWAY AT ANY GIVEN MOMENT.

WE FEEL LIKE WE COULD GET T-BONED WITH CARS GOING 65 MILES AN HOUR.

WE HAVE 100% SUPPORT FROM EVERY SINGLE RESIDENT ON THE STREET, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ONE HOUSE THAT IS AT THE ADDRESS OF SIX THREE, SIX, FIVE, WHICH IS ABANDONED.

AND SO WE COULDN'T GET A SIGNATURE THERE.

BUT I HAVE SIGNATURES OF EVERY SINGLE RESIDENT ON THE STREET IN FULL SUPPORT OF THIS.

WE'RE ASKING FOR ANY HELP AT THIS POINT BECAUSE IT REALLY HAS BECOME SUCH AN ISSUE.

LIKE I SAID, THE SCHOOL IS IN SUPPORT OF SOME KIND OF.

YOU KNOW, SUPPORT FOR THE THE SAFETY OF THE KIDS AS WELL AS THE CHURCH AND THE MONASTERY AT THE END OF THE BLOCK.

THAT IS ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT I WANTED TO DISCUSS AND THAT I ALSO WANTED TO DISCUSS.

I HAVE ANOTHER CARD FOR THE TWO PRESENT FOR MINDY KNIGHT, WHO WAS WASN'T ABLE TO COME.

AND THAT IS FOR THE A, SHE JUST WROTE A LETTER THAT I'D LIKE TO READ AND THEN KIND OF GO INTO THIS AGAIN.

ON SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 5TH, WE EXPERIENCED A SUBSTANTIAL RAIN THAT RESULTED IN THE FLOODING OF BOOGER CREEK.

MY ENTIRE YARD, ALONG WITH MY HOUSE AND DETACHED GARAGE, WERE FLOODED, RESULTING IN COSTLY WATER DAMAGE.

THIS IS THE SECOND TIME IN TWO YEARS THIS HAS HAPPENED.

AFTER THE FIRST INCIDENT, MARCH OF 2020, THE RESULTED FLOODING INTO MY HOME.

I WENT TO THE CITY AND REQUESTED THE TREE, THE CREEK BE DREDGED OR WHATEVER ELSE NEEDED TO BE DONE TO ASSERT TO ASSURE THE SAFETY DISTRIBUTION OF WATER AFTER IT RAINS. SHE WAS TOLD THAT IT WOULD BE DONE AND IT HASN'T BEEN DONE.

IT HASN'T BEEN DONE TO THIS.

AS OF THIS DATE, I ACTUALLY ENDED UP CALLING A FEMA REPRESENTATIVE ON THE 9TH OF NOVEMBER, AND SHE WANTED TO KNOW IF I WANTED TO FILE AN APPLICATION AT THIS TIME FOR HAZARD OF THE FLOOD, THE CREEK FLOODING.

AND I SAID, NOT AT THIS TIME.

I'M ACTUALLY GOING TO ADDRESS MY CITY COUNCIL IN GOOD FAITH AND HOPE THAT SOMETHING CAN BE MITIGATED.

SOME KIND OF LIKE A HAZARD PLAN CAN BE ESTABLISHED FOR THE RESIDENTS.

THERE'S MAYBE ONLY TWO OR THREE OF US.

I'M ONE THAT'S AFFECTED.

SALINA IS ONE THAT IS AFFECTED.

AND OBVIOUSLY, MINDY'S ISSUE IS THAT SHE HAS A MOTHER THAT HAS DEMENTIA.

AND IT WAS LIKE I GUESS IT ACTUALLY BECAME PUBLIC NOTICE THAT THE POLICE AND THE FIRE I DON'T REMEMBER IF THE FIRE RESPONDED OR NOT, BUT THE POLICE DID.

MINDY'S MOM HAS DEMENTIA AND SHE GETS VERY CONFUSED AND OVERWHELMED.

AND WHEN THE HOUSE STARTED TO FLOOD, SHE WAS REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT HER MOM BEING TRAPPED INSIDE THE HOUSE WITH HER CAREGIVER.

SO I GUESS THE POLICE RESPONDED AND FOUND OUT THAT SHE WAS OKAY.

BUT I MEAN, AT THIS POINT, IT BECOMES A MATTER OF PERSONAL PROPERTY BEING DAMAGED AND ALSO THE WELL BEING OF HER MOM.

SO THOSE ARE THE TWO ISSUES THAT SHE WANTED TO BRING UP THAT I WANTED TO BRING FORWARD TO YOUR ATTENTION.

I DO HAVE COPIES OF ALL OF THE SIGNATURES OF EVERYONE ON MY STREET, IF YOU WANT THOSE.

AND ALSO, MINDY INCLUDED WATER DAMAGE, PICTURES OF WHERE THE CREEK OVER FLOODED INTO HER YARD AND IT LOOKS LIKE JUST A GIANT LAKE.

SO I DO HAVE PICTURES.

AND THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. AND I'LL GET THESE TO YOU.

COUNCIL, I ALSO HAVE A SPEAKER CARD FOUR CYLINDER MEETING.

THANK YOU. HELLO? YEAH, MY NAME IS LINDA BEATTY, AND I HAVE LIVED IN BURLESON FOR 53 YEARS.

I KNOW RONNIE JOHNSON FROM WHEN I WENT TO HIGH SCHOOL AND I'VE MET WITH THE CITY MANAGER VIA EMAIL.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YOU WERE VERY RESPONSIVE, VERY CARING, LOVING LOVE, BURLESON.

I'VE BEEN HERE FOR 53 YEARS.

I BOUGHT THE HOUSE ON DOBSON STREET SO THAT I COULD RETIRE, WHICH IS GOING TO HAPPEN IN A FEW YEARS.

I BOUGHT IT IN 2012 BECAUSE I CAN WALK DOWNTOWN BURLESON, ENJOY THE RESTAURANTS AND ENJOY BEING PART OF THE COMMUNITY.

UNFORTUNATELY, IN THE PAST 12 MONTHS, I'VE SEEN AN ALARMING NUMBER OF CARS AND MOTORCYCLES TRAVELING AT DANGEROUS SPEEDS AND MANY DRIVING DISTRACTED. HOW MANY OF YOU HAVE TRAVELED LATELY ON THE FREEWAYS AND SAW THE DISTRACTED DRIVERS, THE ANGRY DRIVERS, AND THE ONES THAT HAVE EVEN GOT AGGRESSIVE? RIGHT.

WE'RE ALL GOING THROUGH THAT.

IT'S AN INCREDIBLE TIME.

BUT HOW MANY OF YOU ALL HAVE THAT ON YOUR STREET? IN FRONT OF YOUR HOUSE EVERY SINGLE DAY.

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IT'S PRETTY SCARY, RIGHT? WELL, I EXPERIENCED THIS EVERY DAY WITH MY NEIGHBORS AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF YOU FEAR GOING TO YOUR MAILBOX EVERY SINGLE DAY BECAUSE YOU KNOW THAT SOMEBODY IS GOING TO ACCIDENTALLY RUN OVER YOU.

THAT JUST HAPPENED TO ME LAST WEEK.

I OPENED MY MAILBOX AND A GUY WAS LOOKING AT HIS PHONE AND VEERED OVER INTO THE WRONG SIDE OF THE STREET AND ALMOST HIT ME.

I HAD ANOTHER DRIVER THAT WAS DISTRACTED DRIVING ON THE WRONG SIDE OF THE STREET LAST WEEK WITH MY NEIGHBORS PRESENT, AND I SAID, HEY, SLOW DOWN.

THEY ALMOST HIT ME AND I GOT FLIPPED OFF AND HONKED AT.

THIS IS A DAILY THING THAT WE GO THROUGH.

I PARKED MY CAR SIDEWAYS AS CLOSE TO MY HOUSE AS POSSIBLE SO THAT SOMEBODY WON'T HIT IT BECAUSE THEY HIT IT SEVERAL YEARS AGO AND IT'S GETTING WORSE.

I DO HAVE TWO ELDERLY NEIGHBORS, ONE ON EACH SIDE OF ME THAT HAVE DEMENTIA.

I'M A NURSE, SO I FEEL VERY BLESSED AND I CARE ABOUT THESE PEOPLE.

AND THE PEOPLE THAT CARE FOR THEM ARE WITH THEM EVERY DAY, BUT THEY CAN'T WATCH THEM CONSTANTLY, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE LOVED AND MONITORED.

I'M TERRIFIED. ONE GOT OUT TODAY AND SHE THOUGHT SHE SAW A BIG DOG, SO SHE RAN ACROSS THE STREET.

I WAS TERRIFIED.

I HAVE A GRANDCHILD THAT I DON'T EVEN WANT TO BRING TO MY HOUSE, BECAUSE JUST LEAVING MY HOUSE, I'M SCARED TO GET T-BONED.

I ONLY MOVED HERE BECAUSE I CAN WALK DOWNTOWN, BUT I CAN'T WALK ANYMORE.

WELL AS A NURSE AND A GRANDMOTHER OF THIS CITY, A CITIZEN OF THIS BEAUTIFUL CITY HAVING TO DEAL WITH THIS DAILY.

I JUST COME BEFORE YOU BECAUSE WE FEAR FOR OUR SAFETY AND THE CHILDREN THAT GO TO THE MONTESSORI SCHOOLS, THE ONE THAT GOES TO THE SCHOOLS AND THE ONES THAT GET ON THE BUSSES.

AND WE JUST WE LOVE THE CITY.

AND WE THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR MAKING IT A WONDERFUL PLACE.

AND WITH THE NEW RESTAURANTS AND STUFF, WE JUST DON'T WANT YOU TO FORGET ABOUT US BECAUSE WE'RE AFRAID AND YOU'RE THE EXPERTS AND WE NEED YOUR HELP.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

I HAVE. I HAVE NO OTHER SPEAKER CARDS.

IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL AT THIS TIME? I'M GOING TO ASK TOMMY LUDWIG TO GET THE CONTACT INFORMATION FOR THESE RESIDENTS AND WE'LL SEE IF WE CAN PUT TOGETHER AN ACTION PLAN AND FOLLOW BACK IF WE SEE THE CHIEF BACK THERE AS WELL. THANK YOU.

BILL JANICE FROM 17 NORTHEAST CLINTON.

I'M ACTUALLY COMING HERE ABOUT MY STREET.

IT'S SEVEN HOUSES ON EACH SIDE, PROBABLY ABOUT 120 YARDS LONG.

THE ROAD AT BOTH ENDS HAS BEEN REPAIRED.

ONE OF THEM THEY REPAIRED BECAUSE THEY HAD A WATER COLLECTION PROBLEM.

NOW IT'S PROBABLY ABOUT 8 TO 12 INCHES DEEP.

IT'S SO ROUGH IN MY TRUCK.

YOU GUYS HAVE ALL SEEN THE PICTURES OF MY TRUCK.

IT'S LIKE A TANK. YOU HAVE TO TAKE IT AT 20 DEGREE ANGLE A COUPLE OF MILES AN HOUR BECAUSE IT'LL BOUNCE YOU OUT OF IT.

IT HAS SOLVED ONE THING, THOUGH.

EVERYBODY USED TO CUT FROM RENFRO STREET OVER THE HORN AND HIT ALL THIS AND MISS THAT RED LIGHT.

NOBODY COMES DOWN ANYMORE BECAUSE IT JUST BEAT YOUR CAR TO PIECES.

MY SON DRIVES A LITTLE BMW.

HE CAN'T GO THAT WAY.

BUT AT THE OTHER END OF THE STREET, SAME AT REPAIRS THAT ARE MAYBE EIGHT, NINE MONTHS OLD.

IT'S RAISED UP ABOUT THAT FAR.

IT'S GOING TO TAKE THE BOTTOM OF THIS CAR OFF IN THE FRONT.

SO IF YOU'RE NOT USED TO THAT ROAD, YOU EITHER HAVE TO GET ON THE WRONG SIDE OF ROAD FIXING OUT OR STAY UP AGAINST THE CURB.

AS YOU TURN TO HEAD TOWARDS ST ANDREW'S CATHOLIC CHURCH, THE CENTER WHERE THE CENTER STREET IS RAISED UP PRETTY ABOUT THREE AND A HALF INCHES.

THE CAR IS GOING TO GO THROUGH THERE. IT'S GOING TO SLICE THE SIDE OUT OF TIRE.

IT'S NOT SO MUCH THERE.

I SEE. YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T CATCH THEM ALL.

BUT A LOT OF THESE REPAIRS, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE BEING DONE BY THE CITY.

I THINK THEY'RE BEING CONTRACTED OUT.

LIKE I SAID BEFORE, I'M A GENERAL CONTRACTOR.

I'VE SEEN WHEN THEY DO CITY REPAIRS ON A STREET, THEY GO BACK AND THEY DO THE SEWER TAPS.

THEY'RE NOT LINE INTO RUBBER BOOTS.

RIGHT. THERE'S A LOT OF INCONSISTENCIES, POOR WORKMANSHIP.

THAT'S WHY I DON'T THINK IT'S THE CITY.

I THINK. BUT IF YOU GUYS WOULD STEP UP A LITTLE BIT ON THIS, I MADE TWO CALLS TO THE STREET SUPERVISOR, DIDN'T HEAR WORD BACK, NO PHONE CALL BACK. SO THAT'S WHY I'M HERE.

BUT I SEE THESE THINGS, LIKE I SAID, BRAND NEW REPAIRS.

THEY'RE FALLING APART, AND SO WE'RE WASTING A TON OF MONEY.

APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU.

IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON AN ITEM NOT POSTED FOR ACTION ON THE AGENDA? WE WILL MOVE ON.

[6. CONSENT AGENDA]

EXCUSE ME. SECTION SIX CONSENT AGENDA.

ALL ITEMS LISTED ON THE CONSENT AGENDA ARE CONSIDERED TO BE ROUTINE BY THE CITY COUNCIL AND WILL BE ENACTED IN ONE MOTION.

THERE WILL BE NO SEPARATE DISCUSSION OF THE ITEMS APPROVAL.

THE CONSENT AGENDA AUTHORIZES THE CITY MANAGER TO IMPLEMENT EACH ITEM IN ACCORDANCE WITH STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS.

TONIGHT BEFORE YOU.

THE CONSENT AGENDA CONSISTS OF ITEM SIX A THROUGH SIX N.

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IS THERE A MOTION ON THE CONSENT? CONSENT AGENDA? I GOT A MOTION BY DAN, THE SECOND BY RICK. PLEASE VOTE.

PASSES UNANIMOUS. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL THAT MOVES US ON TO SECTION SEVEN DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS.

[7A. Ordinance Modification for text amendments to Section 100-115 of Article IV – Overlay Zoning Districts of Appendix B, of the Code of Ordinances of the City of Burleson (Case 22-124): Hold a public hearing and consider approval of an ordinance amendment to add “restaurant or cafeteria (drive through type)” to the list of allowable uses with a specific use permit, with conditions within the Old Town Overlay District. (First Reading) (Staff Presenter: Tony McIlwain, Development Services Director) (The Planning and Zoning Commission recommended approval by unanimous vote)]

SEVEN A IS AN ORDINANCE MODIFICATION TO SECTION 101 15 OF ARTICLE FOUR, THE OVERLAY ZONING DISTRICT OF APPENDIX B OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES FOR THE CITY OF BURLESON.

THIS IS CASE 22-1 24.

TONIGHT THE CITY COUNCIL IS REQUESTED TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THIS ORDINANCE AMENDMENT TO ADD RESTAURANT OR CAFETERIA DRIVE THRU TYPE TO THE LIST OF ALLOWABLE USES WITH A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT WITH THE CONDITIONS WITHIN THE OLD TOWN OVERLAY DISTRICT.

THIS IS BEFORE YOU ON FIRST READING THE STAFF PRESENTER IS TONY MCKEOWN, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DIRECTOR.

TONY. YES.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR. COUNCIL AS COMPOST.

MR. LANGLEY AS THE CITY SECRETARY MENTIONED, THIS IS A TEXT AMENDMENT THAT WE'RE BRINGING BEFORE YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

THE INTENT WITH THIS AMENDMENT IS TO PROVIDE SOME FLEXIBILITY WITH REGARD TO USES THAT WOULD BE CONTEMPLATED VIA AN SUP.

IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, WE'RE LOOKING AT A DRIVE THROUGH USE FOR THE PROPERTY.

WE HAVE THE APPLICANT BEING JONATHAN PHELPS REPRESENTING CRAFT MASTERS LLC.

I'LL TELL YOU THAT THIS STARTED AS A CONVERSATION WITH MR. PHELPS AND HIS REPRESENTATIVE TEAM REGARDING DRIVE THRUS IN THE OLD TOWN DISTRICT.

WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING OR WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED, RATHER, FROM MR. PHELPS TEAM IS THE FOLLOWING LANGUAGE THAT YOU HAVE.

OUR RESTAURANT OR CAFETERIA DRIVE THROUGH TYPE CENTRAL CORE ONLY.

THIS BASICALLY COUNCIL WOULD ALLOW RESTAURANTS AND CAFES, CAFETERIAS TO HAVE WINDOWS SERVICE ALLOWING CUSTOMERS TO PICK UP FOOD FOR OFFSITE CONSUMPTION.

THIS ALSO ALLOWS FOR ON PREMISES CONSUMPTION AS WELL.

IN DISCUSSING THIS WITH THE APPLICANT, STAFF THOUGHT IT WOULD BE BEST TO ADD CERTAIN PARAMETERS THAT YOU COULD CONSIDER IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN APPROVING THIS TEXT AMENDMENT.

AND THOSE ARE LISTED IN LETTERS EIGHT THROUGH D.

THE INTENT IS TO PROVIDE SOME PROTECTIONS FOR ANY INTERESTED PARTY THAT WANTS TO PUT IN A DRIVE THROUGH USE.

WE'RE LOOKING AT HAVING THIS BASICALLY ALLOWED AS A SAP ONLY EAST OF THE UNION PACIFIC RAILROAD TRACKS.

IT MUST BE APPLIED FOR ANY DRIVE THROUGH.

USE MUST BE APPLIED VNS WHENEVER THERE'S A CHANGE OF OCCUPANCY LANE USE OR CFO T WOULD BE REQUIRED IN CONJUNCTION WITH EACH SAP REQUEST FOR A DRIVE THROUGH.

THIS WILL BE APPROVED BY THE CITY'S TRAFFIC ENGINEER.

AND THEN LASTLY, A COMMERCIAL SITE PLAN SHOWING A PLACEMENT OF THE CUSTOMER ORDERING WINDOWS.

ETC. IF THE SAP REQUEST IS DENIED IN ANY FUTURE EVENT SPECIFIED ABOVE, THE SITE SHALL BE MODIFIED TO REMOVE THE USE OF ANY PREVIOUSLY EXISTING DRIVE THROUGH FACILITY.

AND I'LL PAUSE HERE IN CASE YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS RELATIVE TO THIS.

THIS PAGE ALONE.

ON ITEM D, IT SAYS ADEQUATE STACKING OF NO LESS THAN FIVE SPACES.

MEANING IF I'M READING THAT RIGHT, THAT'S NO MORE THAN FIVE CARS STACKED.

CORRECT. SO WHAT HAPPENS IF THERE IS MORE THAN FIVE CARS STACKED? THAT'S WHEN WE LOOK AT WHETHER OR NOT WE HAVE A TIRE THAT IS RESPONSIVE TO THE USE ON SITE.

WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO DRAW SOME ASSUMPTIONS FROM TYPICAL USES BASED ON WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED.

I CAN TELL YOU THAT WITH ANY NEW ESTABLISHMENT, YOU ALWAYS GET THIS SPIKE WHERE THERE'S A LOT OF INTEREST IN FREQUENTING AN ESTABLISHMENT AND OFTENTIMES WE'LL HAVE A TIRE AND WE'LL SEE ESSENTIALLY MORE CARS THAN WE ANTICIPATE TENDS TO LEVEL OUT OVER THE COURSE OF TIME.

BUT THERE ARE SOME MODELING ASSUMPTIONS THAT WE WOULD LOOK AT WITH CERTAIN USES.

FIVE, WE THINK IS A GOOD AMOUNT OF CARS TO GET OFF OF THE STREET.

A LOT OF THESE PLACES ARE SMALL IN TERMS OF WHAT WE WOULD CONSIDER TO BE A VIABLE OPTION FOR A DRIVE THROUGH.

BUT EVEN WITH THAT CRITERIA, STAFF WOULD EVALUATE IT AND MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS ALSO MEETING THE OTHER PARAMETERS THAT WE HAVE A THROUGH C.

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THANK YOU FOR THAT. I'M NOT SURE IF I READ IT ON ANOTHER SLIDE.

I MIGHT BE GETTING AHEAD OF OURSELVES, BUT HOW DOES THIS AFFECT US POTENTIALLY HAVING FAST FOOD RESTAURANTS DOWN THERE? SO THE PROTECTION IS THAT ANY ONE OF THESE ESTABLISHMENTS WILL HAVE TO COME BEFORE YOU FOR APPROVAL OF AN SEP.

SO WE'RE NOT CHANGING THE BASE ZONING DISTRICT IN TERMS OF THE USES THAT ARE ALLOWED OR THE REQUIREMENTS TO MEET CERTAIN DESIGN STANDARDS IN THE OLD TOWN.

BUT IT GIVES YOU THE OPTION TO CONSIDER THESE USES IN CONJUNCTION WITH A DRIVE THROUGH.

IF YOU DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE, REGARDLESS OF WHO THE REQUESTING PARTY IS AS THE COUNCIL, YOU CAN WEIGH ALL THE EVIDENCE PRESENTED BEFORE YOU MAKE A DECISION WHERE YOU MIGHT SAY, WE WILL APPROVE THE BUSINESS THAT'S GOING THERE BUT NOT THE DRIVE THRU.

SO IF SOMEONE IS INTERESTED, THIS SUP GIVES THEM SIMPLY A ROUTE TO MAKE THE REQUEST TO YOU.

AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW, WE DON'T HAVE ANY LANGUAGE IN THE CODE THAT WOULD GIVE THEM AN OPTION TO DO THAT.

SO WE WON'T BE HELD TO THE FACT THAT WE HAVE ONE DRIVE THRU IN THE AREA ALREADY THAT WON'T HURT US BECAUSE THAT'S KIND OF WHAT SERVED US IN THE PAST AS WELL.

WE HAVE THESE TYPES OF BUSINESSES HERE ALREADY, SO WE REALLY CAN'T SAY NO.

DOES THE SUP STATUS KIND OF PUT US IN THAT REALM? IT'S IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE, SO EACH CASE STANDS ON ITS OWN.

SO YOU WOULD CONSIDER ESSENTIALLY ALL THE SURROUNDING CONDITIONS, THE STAFF REPORT THOSE THINGS THAT WE PROVIDE TO YOU, FEEDBACK, SAY, FOR ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS.

SO NONE OF THIS PUTS YOU IN A POSITION WHERE YOU ARE OBLIGATED TO APPROVE A DRIVE THROUGH.

THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE I MOVE ON? YES, SIR. ALL THE THING YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE RAILROAD TRACK.

I GUESS THAT'D BE WEST.

IT IS. WHAT? IT'S.

WELL, THE THE MR. PHELPS HAS INTEREST IN A CERTAIN PROPERTY, OBVIOUSLY, WHEN WE CONSIDER THE REQUEST FOR THE TEXT AMENDMENT.

CITY STAFF IS LOOKING AT THE RELEVANCE OF THE USE THROUGHOUT TOWN.

AND WE THOUGHT EAST OF THE RAILROAD TRACKS WOULD BE A PLACE TO LOOK.

SO IT DOESN'T PUT MR. PHELPS IN A POSITION TO HAVE HIS ITEM APPROVED ANYWHERE THAT DOES ANYBODY ELSE WHO'S INTERESTED IN USING THIS SUP IF IT'S ALLOWED IF IT IS APPROVED BY YOU THROUGH THIS THIS EFFORT TONIGHT.

SO JUST GOOD QUESTION.

BUT IS ANY SITE EAST OF THE TRACK? IT'S NOT A VERY BIG AREA WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT, MR. JOHNSON, BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT THE CORE, IT ONLY RUNS UP TO RENFRO STREET AND BUFORD'S TO THE SOUTH.

SO IT'S NOT A LARGE AREA THAT'S UNDER CONSIDERATION.

NOW, YOU YOURSELF CAN CONSIDER EXPANDING THAT, CONSTRICTING THAT, BUT THIS IS WHAT WE'RE BRINGING TO YOU TONIGHT.

WHAT'S THE PROCEDURE AT THE PROPERTY SALES? DO THEY HAVE TO COME BACK FOR A NEW PERMIT OR IS IT GRANDFATHERED IN? ANY INDIVIDUAL INTERESTED IN PURSUING AN SUP WOULD HAVE TO COME IN THROUGH A SEPARATE ZONING REQUEST FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

WELL, I'M TALKING ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR BUILDING.

IF THIS BUILDING SOLD AND HAD A NEW OWNER.

SO THE TEXT AMENDMENT IS SET UP WHERE IT'S NOT TIED TO ANY BUILDING ITSELF.

SO IT'S JUST NEW EVERY LANGUAGE IN OUR CODE, SO IT'S NOT TIED TO ANY PARTICULAR USE.

SO THE RELEVANCE OF WHO OWNS CERTAIN PROPERTY IS NOT REALLY RELEVANT BECAUSE ANYBODY THAT IS SUBJECT OR ABLE TO REQUEST THIS CAN UTILIZE IT.

ALL RIGHT. I THINK JUST TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THE MAYOR'S QUESTION, IF AN SUP IS GRANTED THAT WOULD RUN WITH THE PROPERTY, THEN AT THAT POINT, IF THEY USE WELL, SO.

CORRECT. WELL, I WANT TO DRAW YOUR ATTENTION IF THAT SUP IS GRANTED AND A NEW USE COMES ONLINE, THAT NEW USE WOULD HAVE TO GET A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY.

SO WE'VE GOT SOME PROTECTION IN LETTERS, LETTER B THAT YOU CAN CONSIDER AND SAY WE DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE ALLOWING THAT DRAFT THROUGH TO CONTINUE AT THIS LOCATION.

AND THEN WE HAVE LANGUAGE IN THE CODE THAT WOULD MAKE MODIFICATION OF THE SITE REQUIRED.

IF THE COUNCIL IS NO LONGER INTERESTED IN HAVING A DRAFT OVER THAT LOCATION.

THANK YOU, MR. CITY MANAGER.

I. SO THIS GRAPHIC JUST GIVES YOU AN INDICATION OF WHERE THE AREA IS AND QUESTION EVERYTHING IN GREEN IS THE.

IT'S THE OLD TOWN AREA.

AND WHAT WE'VE GOT IS EXCUSE ME.

EVERYTHING IN RED IS THE UNION PACIFIC RAILROAD LINE.

AND SO WHAT WE'VE GOT IS KIND OF DEMARCATION LINE THAT RUNS SOUTH THROUGH THE CITY.

AND WHAT YOU WOULD LOOK AT IS ONLY THOSE PROPERTIES THAT ARE ELIGIBLE FOR CONSIDERATION EAST OF THAT LINE.

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TO GIVE YOU SOME IDEA OF WHERE THE SITE IS.

IN OUR REVIEW, THE SITE AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION DELIBERATED AND RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THIS BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.

THERE WAS A BRIEF DISCUSSION ABOUT WALKABILITY AND ALLOWING THE WALKABILITY BASICALLY IN THE OLD TOWN DISTRICT AND OUR STACKING REQUIREMENTS THAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO PUT IN WITH THE SUP.

SO THE ONLY SPEAKERS THAT EVENING WERE THOSE INDIVIDUALS ASSOCIATED MR. PHELPS TEAM. SO WITH THAT, I LIKE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE PRIOR TO YOU OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.

ANYBODY. YOU OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING, PLEASE.

OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 6:01.

I HAVE NO SPEAKER CARDS FOR THIS PUBLIC HEARING.

IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM? THEY'RE NONE.

FINALLY CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 6:02.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

AT THIS TIME, THEN, IF YOU COULD CALL FOR A VOTE ON THE ITEM, IS THERE A MOTION? MOVE TO APPROVE? MOVE TO APPROVE? OH, I'M SORRY I THOUGHT YOU WERE ASKING ME TO DO THAT.

GOT YOU. THERE YOU GO.

I GOT A MOTION [INAUDIBLE] AND THE SECOND BY RONNIE.

PLEASE VOTE. PASSES UNANIMOUS.

THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL AT THIS TIME.

THIS MOVES US ON TO SEVEN B.

HOWEVER, I WILL CALL FORWARD TOGETHER AT ONE TIME, SEVEN B AND SEVEN C.

SINCE THEY ARE RELATED, WE WILL HOLD ONE PUBLIC HEARING FOR BOTH ITEMS BUT HAVE TWO SEPARATE ACTIONS.

SEVEN B IS THE RESERVE AT 5828.

CONVEYOR DRIVE CASE 22-073.

THIS IS TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING.

CONSIDER APPROVAL OF AN ORDINANCE FOR VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION OF APPROXIMATELY 236.36 ACRES LOCATED IN THE EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION OF THE CITY OF BURLESON RELATED TO PREVIOUSLY APPROVED DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS.

AND THIS IS BEFORE CITY COUNCIL ON FIRST AND FINAL READING.

SEVEN C IS THE RESERVE AT 5828 CONVEYOR DRIVE CASE 22-071.

THIS IS TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER APPROVAL OF AN ORDINANCE FOR THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST FROM DEFAULTED A AGRICULTURAL TO SFE SINGLE FAMILY ESTATE DWELLING DISTRICT FOR A SINGLE FAMILY GATED COMMUNITY.

THIS IS ALSO BEFORE YOU ON FIRST AND FINAL READING.

DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES TONY MCILWAIN WILL BE PRESENTING BOTH ITEMS. MR. MCILWAIN, THANK YOU.

AS AMANDA SPOKE, I WILL GO THROUGH THIS PRESENTATION AND TOUCH ON BOTH THE ANNEXATION AND THE ZONING FOR THIS PROPERTY.

IT IS A VOLUNTARY REQUEST FOR ANNEXATION THAT HAS BEEN SUBMITTED BY MARK WEBB AND SANJEET BHATTACHARYA.

THE LOCATION IN QUESTION IS HIGHLIGHTED IN BLUE ON YOUR SCREEN.

IT'S OVER 236 ACRES.

WHAT WE HAVE IS A SPLIT SCREEN GRAPHIC COUNCIL THAT SHOWS WHAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CONTEMPLATES FOR THIS AREA, AND IT'S BASICALLY JUST WHAT WE CALL FUTURE DEVELOPMENT. SO IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT GIVES YOU ANY INDICATOR OF A CERTAIN TYPE OF USE, JUST FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.

ZONING WISE, IF ANNEX TONIGHT AND SUBSEQUENTLY ZONED IT WOULD DEFAULT FROM AG FOLLOWING THE ANNEXATION ACTION YOU UNDERTAKE.

AND THEN THERE'S A REQUEST FOR SINGLE FAMILY ESTATE ZONING.

SO YOU HAVE ON YOUR AGENDA CONCURRENT ZONING REQUEST FOR SINGLE FAMILY ESTATE.

THIS IS A MINIMUM ONE ACRE LOT SIZE BEING PROPOSED BY THE APPLICANT HERE WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS, THEY'RE LOOKING AT 199 LOTS AND TWO OPEN SPACE LOTS WITH NO SPECIAL CONDITIONS, WAIVERS OR VARIANCES.

SO YOU'RE IF YOU'RE A PROPONENT OF LARGE LOTS.

SO THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY WHERE THE CITY WOULD HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO GET THOSE.

THE SITE IS PROPOSING ACCESS OFF OF FM 917 AND COUNTY ROAD 810.

WE'VE GOT THOSE TWO ACCESS POINTS HIGHLIGHTED WITH THE RED BOX.

RED BOX EXCUSE ME THAT YOU HAVE ON THE SCREEN SIDE IS PROPOSED TO BE A GATED COMMUNITY WITH PRIVATELY MAINTAINED STREETS AND WE UTILIZE ON SITE SEPTIC FACILITIES IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE.

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CITY STAFF MADE ALL THE NECESSARY REQUIREMENTS FOR BOTH THE ANNEXATION AND THE ZONING REQUEST.

THAT'S BEFORE YOU. TONIGHT WE PUBLISHED NOTICE IN THE NEWSPAPER AND SIGNS WERE POSTED ON THE PROPERTY.

STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF THE RECOMMENDATION.

STAFF IS RECOMMENDING AND SUPPORTIVE OF THE ANNEXATION BASED ON THE ONE ACRE LOT SIZE IS BEING PROPOSED BY THE APPLICANT, AND SEVERAL TRACKS CURRENTLY WITHIN THIS PROPERTY ARE ALREADY COVERED BY DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

THE INTENT IS FOR THE DEVELOPER TO UNIFY THE SITE THROUGH A DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL, AND THAT'S WHY IT'S HERE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT TO GIVE YOU SOME IDEA OF WHAT'S TO BE EXPECTED WITH REGARD TO THE ZONING.

AGAIN, 199 LOTS, ONE ACRE LOT MINIMUMS BEING PROPOSED, THAT GIVES YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOCK IN THE DEVELOPMENT VIA THE ZONING.

I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A VERY GOOD PROJECT FOR THE CITY AND MAKE AMPLE USE OF LARGER LOTS FOR THAT MARKET.

PEOPLE IN THE MARKET FOR A MORE COUNTY TYPE EXPERIENCE.

BUT LIVING HERE IN THE CITY WITH PRIVATELY MAINTAINED ROWS AND GATED COMMUNITY.

SO WITH THAT CONCLUDES THE PRESENTATION.

I ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.

I KNOW THERE ARE ANOTHER ONE ACRE SEPTICS WHAT ABOUT THE WATER? IS THAT CITY WATER? LET ME GO.

THE QUESTION.

I BELIEVE IT'S BETHESDA WATER SUPPLY.

BETHESDA? YES, SIR.

OUT THERE. SO THE PURPOSE FOR THEM TO BE ANNEXED IS PROBABLY JUST POLICE, FIRE AND THE ROADS BEING MAINTAINED.

WELL, A BIG CHUNK OF THE PROPERTY DOES HAVE A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND THIS ACTION RIGHT WERE TRIGGERED.

SO THEY WANT TO JUST BRING IT ALL IN.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

MAYOR, IF YOU COULD OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON CASE 22-073.

IN CASE 22-071, I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 6:07.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. I DO HAVE A SPEAKER CARD ON THIS.

CATHERINE, IF YOU COULD JUST PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, IF YOU'LL COME TO THIS PODIUM RIGHT HERE.

CATHERINE PIGGOTT 2616 NORTH COUNTY ROAD 810.

WE'VE BEEN RESIDENTS THERE AT THE 810 LOCATION FOR 25 YEARS NOW.

NOT OUR NOT OUR FIRST TIME WITH THIS WHOLE RESIDENTIAL SITUATION.

I'M CURIOUS JUST REAL QUICK, HE SAID THAT IT WAS ONLY ONE WATER COMPANY, SO I'D LIKE TO CLARIFY THAT REAL QUICK.

JUST REAL QUICK, BECAUSE WE WERE EXPLAINED IN THE LAST MEETING THAT IT WAS TWO WATER COMPANIES.

SO I'D REALLY LIKE TO VERIFY THAT IF YOU DON'T MIND, I HAVE TO GET THAT INFORMATION FROM OUR ENGINEERING STAFF REALLY QUICKLY. BECAUSE HERE'S MY QUESTION.

HERE'S MY CONCERN, BECAUSE WE WERE EXPLAINED WE WERE EXPLAINED THAT IT'S GOING TO BE TWO WATER COMPANIES, BOTH BETHESDA AND BETHANY.

BETHANY COMES UP 810.

WE HAVE USED BETHANY WATER 25 YEARS.

BETHANY WATER HAS BEEN IN PLAY FOR SINCE 1964.

WITH THAT, THEY STILL HAVE 1964 PLUMBING.

AND IT JUST IT DOESN'T EVER GET ANY BETTER.

THEY REPAIR AND THEY PATCH.

THAT'S THE PROBLEM WITH BETHANY WATER.

AND THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN THE PROBLEM WITH BETHANY WATER.

THEY JUST REPAIR A PATCH THEY DON'T OVERALL FIX.

SO YOU HAVE A BREAK, YOU HAVE A BREAK IN THE ROAD.

THEY GO IN, THEY PATCH IT.

IT'S JUST A FIX.

THEY DON'T EVEN FIX THE ROAD.

THEY DON'T DO ANYTHING.

THEY'VE GOT FIVE MEMBERS, FIVE, FIVE PEOPLE FOR THEIR WHOLE 10,000 ACRES PLUS THAT TAKE CARE OF ALL THEIR BRAKES, ALL THEIR SPLICES, EVERYTHING.

THAT'S WHAT THEY DO.

SO YOU'RE GOING TO ADD ANOTHER 200 HUNDRED HOUSES TO THIS SYSTEM WHERE JUST LAST WEEK WE WERE OUT OF WATER TWICE.

IF YOU COULD SPEAK CLOSE TO THE MICROPHONE, I WOULD SAY NO REVERB.

SO I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF IT WAS ME OR NOT.

WHEN WE GET THAT DOWN. YEAH, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WAY WE CAN CAPTURE YOU.

TWO DAYS. LAST WEEK WE HAD NO WATER BECAUSE OF BREAKS.

THIS IS NOT UNUSUAL.

WE JUST DEAL WITH IT.

THE WEEK BEFORE, WE WERE OUT FOR AN ENTIRE DAY FROM 8:00 IN THE MORNING UNTIL 3:00 IN THE AFTERNOON.

AGAIN, THIS IS NOT UNUSUAL.

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AND WE JUST DEAL WITH IT BECAUSE THIS IS OUR WATER COMPANY.

DURING THE SUMMER.

IT'S WORSE. WE HAVE NO WATER PRESSURE.

IT IS JUST THE WAY THIS WATER COMPANY IS.

AND YOU AGAIN, ARE WANTING TO ADD THIS MANY HOUSES.

IT'S A PROBLEM.

IT'S A HUGE PROBLEM.

AND YES, WE HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT THEY'VE ADDED WATER SUPPLY TO IT, WHICH IS GREAT.

BUT YOU ADD WATER SUPPLY, YOU ADD WATER PRESSURE TO AN AGING SYSTEM, YOU'RE JUST GETTING MORE AND MORE AND MORE BREAKS.

SO IT'S A PROBLEM.

IT'S A HUGE PROBLEM.

THEY'VE GOT FIVE PEOPLE TOTAL IN THEIR OFFICE AND THEN YOU ADD THEIR FIVE CONSTRUCTION WORKERS.

JUST NOT ENOUGH.

AND THEN ADDING AND ADDING MORE HOMES.

ADDING MORE HOMES.

JUST IT'S NOT SUFFICIENT.

WE JUST WE HAD AN EXPERIENCE THIS SUMMER WHERE ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS NICKED THE LINE.

HE CALLED THEM, I'LL PAY FOR IT.

Y'ALL COME AND FIX IT.

THEY CAME OUT AND PUT A PATCH ON IT, DIDN'T SPLICE IT, PUT A PATCH ON IT.

TWO DAYS LATER, THEY HAD TO COME OUT, DO IT AGAIN BECAUSE THEY JUST DIDN'T FIX IT ADEQUATELY.

SO THAT IS ONE OF OUR MAJOR CONCERNS.

HUGE CONCERN.

AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS JUST A ZONING.

BUT THE THING ABOUT IT IS THEY'RE ALREADY STARTING TO WORK.

THEY'RE CLEARING TREES, THEY'RE CUTTING THEY'RE CUTTING LINES.

THEY HAVE BEEN SIX MONTHS NOW.

THEY'RE ALREADY WORKING.

THEY'RE DONE.

THEY'RE READY. THEY'RE GOING.

NO, JUST ONE MOMENT.

YOU'RE OUT OF TIME. BUT, MAYOR, WOULD YOU LIKE TO GRANT HER SOME ADDITIONAL TIME? THANK YOU. SO WE'RE JUST REALLY CONCERNED WHERE THIS IS GOING.

AND I APOLOGIZE. I'M RUNNING ON.

IT'S JUST WE ARE VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS.

WE HAVE A BUSINESS.

WE WE HAVE A BUSINESS THERE.

WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO RELOCATE.

YOU'RE GOING TO PULL OUT ALL THESE CARS ON TO 810, BECAUSE I CAN PROMISE YOU, IF YOU GO OUT ONTO 917 WHERE THEY'VE GOT THIS EXIT, YOU CAN'T SEE OVER THE CRESTED HILL.

LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION. HAS ANYBODY CONTACTED THE DEVELOPER AND LET THEM KNOW THAT HE'S GOT A PROBLEM? THEY ASSURED US EVERYTHING WILL BE OKAY.

IS THERE ANY PLANS TO UPGRADE TO THIS DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BUY ONE ACRE LOTS.

THE CITY HAS REALLY NO CONTROL OVER THIS.

I UNDERSTAND. BUT OUR HEARTS GO OUT TO YOU.

BUT, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE MIGHT LET THE DEVELOPER KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING.

MAYBE HE'LL WORK A DEAL WITH YOUR WATER SUPPLY COMPANY AND GET SOMETHING DONE.

YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO USE THIS TO YOUR ADVANTAGE.

BUT AS FAR AS THE CITY, WE DON'T HAVE ANY SAY OVER IT.

UNDERSTAND? I'M SAYING. SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS AND FORGIVE MY IGNORANCE HERE.

SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS, BECAUSE THERE'S ALREADY PROBLEMS THAT EXIST, YOU'LL JUST GO AHEAD AND LET IT BE, EVEN THOUGH Y'ALL CONTROL IT HERE.

IT'S NOT THAT'S NOT THE SITUATION.

OR WHETHER WE CAN LET IT BE OR NOT.

WE JUST DON'T WE DON'T HAVE ANY.

I THINK THE DIFFICULTY HERE IS MAYBE THE ISSUE OF HOW THE PROCESS IN TEXAS WORKS UNDER TEXAS STATUTORY LAW, UNDER OUR WATER CODE IN ORDER TO PROVIDE WATER UTILITY SERVICE ON A RETAIL BASIS TO ANY GROUP OF CUSTOMERS THAT IS 200 OR LARGER IN SIZE.

YOU ARE REQUIRED TO HOLD A CERTIFICATE OF CONVENIENCE AND NECESSITY ISSUED NOW BY THE TEXAS PUBLIC UTILITY COMMISSION.

THEY MAKE A DETERMINATION OF WHICH UTILITIES WILL BE AUTHORIZED TO BE THE WATER SERVICE PROVIDER IF THEY ARE CERTIFICATED FOR THIS AREA, WHICH I BELIEVE THEY ARE.

THEN NO ONE ELSE HAS THE AUTHORITY TO BE THE WATER SERVICE PROVIDER IN THAT AREA.

IF THEY ARE DULY CERTIFICATED TO MORE THAN ONE ENTITY THAN EITHER OF THE CERTIFICATED ENTITIES CAN PROVIDE WATER SERVICE, IF THERE IS A FAILURE BY THAT UTILITY TO PROVIDE ADEQUATE SERVICE, THE NOTICE CAN BE GIVEN TO THE PUBLIC UTILITY COMMISSION.

THEY WILL COME OUT AND INVESTIGATE AND GIVE THE COMPANY INVOLVED NOTICE AND A WARNING.

AND IF THEY FAIL TO UPGRADE THE SYSTEM, THEY WILL CANCEL OR REDUCE THEIR CERTIFICATE, THEREBY REMOVING THEIR AUTHORITY TO BE THE UTILITY PROVIDER.

NOW, THE REASON ALL THIS COMES INTO PLAY IS WHAT IS IN FRONT OF THE CITY TONIGHT IS A REQUEST FOR VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION.

BUT IT'S BASED UPON THE FACT THAT THIS PROPERTY IS SUBJECT TO DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS THAT WERE ENTERED INTO YEARS AGO THAT PROVIDE IF THE PROPERTY IS EVER TO BE

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DEVELOPED, THEN IT WILL BE BROUGHT INTO THE CITY SO THE CITY CAN BEGIN TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES.

TONIGHT, THE CITY WILL BE LOOKING AT A VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION AGREEMENT, AND THE NEXT ISSUE THEN IS TO APPROVE ZONING.

IF THE COUNCIL CHOOSES TO DO SO BASED UPON THE CURRENT REQUEST, THAT DOES NOT GIVE THEM THE ABILITY TO GO FORWARD AND DO ANYTHING.

IT SIMPLY GIVES THEM A LAND USE ENTITLEMENT THAT AUTHORIZES THEM TO HAVE A REGISTERED PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER OR ENGINEERING TEAM AND LAND SURVEYORS DEVELOP A SUBDIVISION PLAT OR PLAN, AND AS PART OF THE SUBDIVISION PLAN, THEY WILL BE REQUIRED TO PRODUCE A ROADWAY SECTIONS WATER PLAN FOR THE DELIVERY OF WATER UTILITIES, PLANS FOR THE MANAGEMENT OF SANITARY SEWAGE, EITHER ONSITE DISPOSAL OR A PUBLIC EQUIVALENT SYSTEM STORMWATER PLAN.

ALL OF THESE WILL BE SUBMITTED TO THE CITY FOR REVIEW.

THE ISSUES THAT YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT ARE GOING TO BE FULLY ADDRESSED BY THE CITY STAFF.

WHEN WE REACH THAT MOMENT IN TIME WHEN THEY HAVE REQUESTED OUR REVIEW OF A SUBDIVISION PLAT.

THEN WE ARE AUTHORIZED TO TELL THE UTILITY COMPANY YOU HAVE TO COME FORWARD WITH DEMONSTRATIVE EVIDENCE THAT YOU HAVE THE SYSTEM CAPABILITY TO SUPPLY THE WATER.

IF THEY CAN'T, CAN THE CITY STAFF WILL BE TALKING TO THE PUBLIC UTILITY COMMISSION GOING YOU'VE GOT TO INTERVENE AND DO SOMETHING OR CANCEL THEIR CERTIFICATE AND EITHER THE CITY WILL TAKE IT OVER OR WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER UTILITY TAKE IT OVER.

THERE'S A STEP PROCESS BY WHICH WE WILL REACH IT, BUT WE'RE NOT AT THAT STEP YET.

WELL, RIGHT NOW, JUST AT THE LAND USE ENTITLEMENT, THE APPROVAL OF A LAND USE THEN TELLS THEIR ENGINEERS WHAT THEY CAN LAY OUT A PLAN TO DEVELOP AND THAT TELLS THEM WHAT UTILITY SERVICE THEY WILL REQUIRE.

THAT GIVES OUR STAFF THE ABILITY THEN TO DEAL WITH THE PUC.

SO YOUR ISSUES ARE GOING TO BE ADDRESSED.

THEY JUST WON'T BE ADDRESSED AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME.

BUT THE COUNCIL IS NOT BLIND TO THE ISSUE AND THE CITY WILL ADDRESS IT WHEN WE REACH THAT STEP IN THE PROCESS.

OKAY. DOES THAT HELP? NO, I FULLY UNDERSTAND.

I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND.

I KNEW THAT IT WAS JUST A ZONING.

BUT WHAT OUR CONCERN WAS IS THAT THEY ARE ALREADY WORKING.

SO IT JUST CONCERNS US THAT IT'S JUST GOING TO BE WASHED OVER, THAT WE CAN'T GET TO THE REAL.

I MEAN, I MEAN, BECAUSE Y'ALL YELL AND IT'S THE FRONT OR PART OF THE ROAD FOR YEARS NOW AND WE CAN'T EVEN GET Y'ALL TO CUT THE TREES.

AS SOON AS THE ANNEXATION IS COMPLETE.

RIGHT NOW, THE PROPERTY IS SUBJECT TO ONLY THE COUNTY REGULATION, THE PORTION THAT'S NOT IN THE CITY.

BUT THE MINUTE THE ANNEXATION IS COMPLETE ON THE BALANCE OF THE PROPERTY, THE CITY STAFF HAS THE ABILITY THEN TO BEGIN TO CONTROL WHAT OCCURS ON THE SITE. UP TO THIS POINT, WE HAVE A MORE LIMITED ROLE, BUT THAT THIS ACTIVITY TONIGHT MAY BEGIN TO CORRECT THAT.

OK. I DO WANT TO CORRECT SOME OF THE INFORMATION THAT WENT OUT.

I THINK WE SAID BETHESDA, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY BETHANY AND IT'S ONE PROVIDER.

SO WE MISSPOKE EARLIER, IS NOT BETHESDA IS BETHANY IS, I THINK, AS YOU SUSPECTED.

BUT IT'S JUST ONE PROVIDER COVERING THE WHOLE ENTIRE ONE.

THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING IN THE CCN.

THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY.

I HOPE THAT HELPS.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT HELPS OR NOT.

WELL, GOOD LUCK. YEAH.

ALL RIGHT.

THE PUBLIC HEARING IS STILL OPEN.

IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON THESE TWO CASES? ANYBODY ELSE? COME FORWARD. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE CITY COUNCIL, IF YOU'LL JUST COME HERE TO THIS PODIUM RIGHT HERE TO MY RIGHT AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

THEN AFTER YOU SPEAK, IF YOU WANT.

FILLING OUT A SPEAKER CARD, I'D APPRECIATE.

THANK YOU. CLEMENS. RONNIE LEONARD.

WE OWN THE PROPERTY ACROSS THE ROAD FROM THE PROPOSED SUBDIVISION 2932 NORTH COUNTY ROAD.

810. JUST WONDERING IF IS THAT NOT IN THE AGE OF BURLESON? BUT YOU SAID IT'S STRICTLY COUNTY ISSUE, RIGHT? BECAUSE EVERY TIME WE BUILD A PLACE OVER HERE, WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE ETJ ISSUE WITH BURROUGHS AND NOT JUST THE COUNTY.

SO WE DEAL WITH BOTH. THE CITY HAS THE AUTHORITY TO REGULATE SUBDIVISION PLAT FILING THINGS OF THAT NATURE IN OUR ETJ.

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WE CANNOT ENFORCE CONSTRUCTION CODES, OUR BUILDING PERMIT REQUIREMENTS, PLUMBING PERMIT REQUIREMENTS IN THE ETJ.

WE DON'T HAVE ZONING, WE DON'T HAVE BUILDING PERMIT.

WE DON'T HAVE THAT KIND OF AUTHORITY EXCEPT IN OUR CITY LIMITS.

SO THAT'S THE ISSUE TONIGHT IS IN THE ETJ.

IT IS IN THE ETJ.

AND THAT'S WHY THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO FILE A SUBDIVISION PLAT BEFORE THEY WOULD BE ELIGIBLE TO EVER GET THE ABILITY TO CONNECT INDIVIDUAL LOTS TO UTILITIES. OKAY.

LIKE. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WOULD CARE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM? MAYOR, YOU CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, PLEASE.

I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 6:21.

[7B. The Reserve at 5828 Conveyor Drive (Case 22-073): Hold a public hearing and consider approval of an ordinance for voluntary annexation of approximately 236.36 acres of land situated in the H.R. McClure Survey, Abstract No. 587, described in the deeds recorded in documents Nos. 2021-36960, 2021-36997, and 2022-5271, Johnson County, Texas (D.R.J.C.T), located in the exclusive Extraterritorial Jurisdiction (ETJ) of the City of Burleson, related to previously approved development agreements. (First and Final Reading) (Staff Presenter: Tony McIlwain, Development Services Director)]

THANK YOU, MAYOR. THAT BRINGS US TO THE ACTION PORTION OF THIS FOUR SEVEN B WILL TAKE THESE UP INDIVIDUALLY.

SO FIRST IS SEVEN B.

THIS IS CASE NUMBER 22-073.

THIS IS FOR THE ANNEXATION PORTION.

IS THERE A MOTION? PUBLICLY APPROVED THE MOVE TO APPROVE.

I HAVE A MOTION BY DAN THE SECOND VIRANI.

PLEASE VOTE.

MOTION PASSES. UNANIMOUS.

THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

[7C. The Reserve at 5828 Conveyor Dr (Case 22-071): Hold a public hearing and consider approval of an ordinance for a zoning change request from defaulted “A”, Agriculture, to “SFE" Singlefamily Estate dwelling district for a single-family gated community.(First and Final Reading) (Staff Presenter: Tony McIlwain, Development Services Director) (The Planning and Zoning Commission recommended approval by unanimous vote)]

THAT BRINGS US TO SEVEN C, WHICH IS CASE 22-071.

THIS IS PERTAINING TO THE ZONING FROM AGG TO SFE.

IS THERE A MOTION? SECOND.

CLICK THE BUTTON. I NEED A SECOND.

THERE YOU GO. I GOT A MOTION BY RONNIE AND A SECOND.

BY JIMMY, PLEASE VOTE.

PASSES UNANIMOUS.

THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

[8A. Consider an ordinance altering the Speed Limit along Hemphill Street between NE Alsbury Boulevard and the city limits from 35 miles per hour to 45 miles per hour; directing the City Manager or designee to erect the appropriate signage and incorporating the recitals into the body of the ordinance. (First and Final Reading) (Staff Presenter: Eric Oscarson, Director of Public Works)]

THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM EIGHT A CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE ALTERING THE SPEED LIMIT ALONG HEMPHILL STREET BETWEEN NORTHEAST SALISBURY BOULEVARD AND THE CITY LIMITS FROM 35 MILES PER HOUR TO 45 MILES PER HOUR.

THIS IS BEFORE US ON FIRST AND FINAL READING.

THE STAFF PRESENTER IS ERIC OSCAR AND DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS ERIC.

GOOD EVENING.

THANK YOU, AMANDA. GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MAYOR.

TONIGHT I HAVE BEFORE YOU RECOMMENDATION FOR REVISE SPEED ZONE ORDINANCE FOR HEMPHILL STREET.

THE AREA WE'RE DISCUSSING TONIGHT IS THE EXTENT OF HEMPHILL FROM ALSBURY TO THE CITY LIMITS JUST NORTH OF PEACH.

JUST SOME BASIC INFORMATION.

CURRENTLY, THE SPEED LIMIT IS 35 MILES PER HOUR.

IT IS SIGNAL CONTROLLED AT SALISBURY BOULEVARD, AND IT IS STOPPED CONTROLLED AT MCALISTER AND PLUM DURING THE MONTH OF APRIL 2022, TRAFFIC ENGINEERING AND OUR PD STAFF RECEIVED COMPLAINTS OF SPEEDING ON HEMPHILL.

THAT OFTEN TRIGGERS CITY STAFF TO GO OUT AND DO AN ANALYSIS OF WHAT THE TRAFFIC AND SPEEDS ARE IN THAT AREA.

SO FROM MAY 9TH TO MAY 11TH, WE CONDUCTED A SPEED SURVEY AND ASKED AND PD TRAFFIC ENGINEERING TO REVIEW.

OVER THOSE TWO DAYS, 9251 VEHICLES WERE SURVEYED DURING THAT PERIOD.

IN THE 85TH PERCENTILE FOR SPEED WAS 43 MILES PER HOUR.

AND I'LL GET INTO WHAT THE 85TH PERCENTILE MEANS HERE IN A LITTLE BIT.

BASED ON THAT INFORMATION, ON APRIL, MAY 16TH, PD SUSPENDED SPEED ENFORCEMENT PENDING A FULL TRAFFIC ENGINEERING STUDY ON JUNE 30TH, 2022.

KIMLEY-HORN AND ASSOCIATES WAS AUTHORIZED TO CONDUCT A TRAFFIC ENGINEERING SPEED STUDY FOR HEMPHILL.

SO WHAT IS THE TRAFFIC ENGINEERING SPEED STUDY LOOK AT.

IT CONSIDERS ADJACENT LAND USE.

SO WHAT ARE THE AREAS AROUND THAT ROADWAY? STRICTLY ADJACENT TO IT.

THEY CONDUCT A 24 HOUR TRAFFIC VEHICLE COUNT.

SO UP ABOVE THE 48 HOURS WE DID PREVIOUSLY, WE DO ANOTHER 24 HOURS.

WE ANALYZE THE ENGINEERING ROADWAY DESIGN.

WHAT WAS THE ROADWAY DESIGN BUILT TO HANDLE? AND WE VERIFY THE 85TH PERCENTILE SPEED.

SO THE 85TH PERCENTILE SPEED MEANS WHAT DO 85% OF THE PEOPLE DRIVE TO THAT LIMIT? ANYTHING ABOVE THAT IS THE TOP 15%.

THOSE WOULD BE CONSIDERED SPEEDERS.

SO WE LOOK AT THE 85TH PERCENTILE.

WHAT IS 85% OF THE PEOPLE WILL BE DRIVING THAT SPEED LIMIT OR LOWER.

AND THEN WE COMPARE THAT TO PD RESULTS AND WE MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS BASED OFF OF THAT.

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SO THE RESULTS OF THAT SPEED STUDY, WE IDENTIFY 22,530 VEHICLES IN THE 24 HOUR PERIOD THAT WERE NORTHBOUND AND THE 85 PERCENTILE SPEED WAS 43 MILES PER HOUR.

SOUTHBOUND TRAFFIC WAS COUNTED AS 2168 VEHICLES DURING THAT 24 HOUR PERIOD.

AND THE 85TH PERCENTILE SPEED WAS 44 MILES PER HOUR.

THIS ROADWAY DOES HAVE LIMITED ROADWAY CONNECTIONS.

SO BETWEEN ALSBURY AND MCALLISTER, THERE ARE FOUR ONLY FOUR SIDE STREETS THAT INTERSECT.

NONE OF THEM ARE FOUR WAY CROSSINGS.

THEY ARE JUST TWO INTERSECTIONS WHICH ARE STOP CONTROLLED ON THE SIDE STREETS.

MCALESTER IS A STOP CONTROL BETWEEN MCALLISTER AND PLUM.

THERE ARE NO INTERSECTING STREETS AND THEN OBVIOUSLY NORTH OF PLUM, ACROSS THIS PEACH AND THEN OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS AT THE SOUTH END AT SALISBURY, THERE ARE TWO DRIVEWAY CONNECTIONS.

WE DO LOOK AT THAT.

THERE ARE ONLY TWO DRIVEWAY CONNECTIONS FOR COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES RIGHT AT THE INTERSECTION OF SALISBURY AND HEMPHILL.

SO WITH THAT, THE 85TH PERCENTILE SPEED WAS APPROXIMATELY 43 MILES PER HOUR IN BOTH DIRECTIONS.

SO BEFORE I GO TO THE NEXT ONE.

SO WHAT? IN A LOT OF THESE CASES AND I KNOW THERE'S I THINK THERE'S SOME AMANDA HAS SOME TO READ ON THIS ONE.

WHEN WE BRING THESE THINGS FORWARD, THESE ARE RECOMMENDATIONS MADE BY STATISTICAL ANALYSIS BY TRAFFIC ENGINEERS FOR WHAT PEOPLE TEND TO DRIVE.

A LOT OF PEOPLE ASK QUESTIONS.

WELL, IF YOU POST IT AT 45, WILL PEOPLE GO 50 OR 55? THAT'S NOT OFTEN THE CASE.

PEOPLE DRIVE THE SPEED LIMIT THAT THEY FEEL COMFORTABLE DRIVING.

SO IF PEOPLE ARE DRIVING 43, THEY'LL CONTINUE TO DRIVE 43, 45 MILES AN HOUR BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THEY FEEL COMFORTABLE AT.

YOU'LL ALWAYS HAVE THOSE OUTLIERS.

YOU HAVE ALWAYS PEOPLE GOING 15% AND THAT 15% ABOVE, THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE WE ISSUE TICKETS TO.

BUT THE SPEED STUDY BASED ON THIS IS A DATA ANALYSIS DONE BY TRAFFIC ENGINEERS WHOSE RESPONSIBILITY IS TO LOOK AT THESE THINGS.

THIS IS A ROADWAY BASED ON ITS LOCATION, BASED ON INTERSECTING STREETS.

THE RECOMMENDATION IS 45 MILES PER HOUR.

SO AT THIS TIME, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVING AN ORDINANCE THAT WOULD ADJUST THE SPEED LIMIT TO 45 MILES AN HOUR FOR HEMPEL.

AND I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.

DO YOU KNOW, DO WE HAVE MANY ACCIDENTS ALONG THIS ROADWAY? AND IF SO, WOULD THEY BE SPEED RELATED? SO WE HAVE FIVE ACCIDENTS THAT WE ARE AWARE OF OVER A FIVE YEAR PERIOD.

SO ONE ACCIDENT EVERY FIVE YEARS, ONE ACCIDENT A YEAR OVER A FIVE YEAR PERIOD, WHICH IS LOW THERE AT MCALLISTER AND AT THAT INTERSECTION. AND IT WAS NOT A SPEED RELATED ISSUE.

IT WAS A TRAFFIC RELATED STOP SIGN INTERSECTION, NOT A SPEED RELATED MATTER.

I TRAVEL THIS ROAD TWO TIMES UP TO FOUR A DAY AND I THINK THIS IS WARRANTED.

AND YEAH, WE DON'T HARDLY HAVE ANY CROSSING OVER.

AND OTHER THAN THAT, AT THAT FOUR WAY STOP.

BUT THIS IS GOOD.

I THINK YOU GO THROUGH THERE IN THE MORNINGS WHEN SCHOOL WAS GETTING STARTED.

ALOT OF TIMES, I'M SKIP I MISS THE SCHOOL BUT THERE ARE NO .

YEAH. OH YEAH. ACROSS THAT WHOLE FOUR WAY STOP AND THERE'S A GOOD SLOW I MEAN THE SCHOOL ZONE DOWN MCALLISTER REALLY SLOWS PEOPLE DOWN. I DON'T HARDLY EVER SEE ANY CHILDREN WALKING ON MCALLISTER.

I'M SORRY. ON HEMPHILL FROM MCALLISTER GOING TO ALSBURY.

THEY'RE MOSTLY COMING FROM THE OTHER SIDE.

OTHERWISE THEY GO THROUGH THAT THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO THIS IS MOSTLY A THOROUGHFARE AND THERE'S ENOUGH STOP SIGNS ON, ESPECIALLY ON THE SIDE GOING WAS THAT NORTH SIDE GOING UP TO CROWLEY TO REALLY SLOW IT ALL DOWN.

IT'S NOT A VERY LONG JAUNT FOR THEM TO GO FROM MCALLISTER TO ALSBURY IS THE THEY'RE ADDING ON TO HEMPHILL GOING OVER TO 1187. CORRECT.

DO YOU KNOW THAT? ARE THEY GOING TO MATCH THE SAME DESIGN AS WE HAVE? IS IT GOING TO BE ON THE DESIGN OF THE ROADWAY? IS A SIMILAR CROSS SECTION.

IT REDUCES DOWN TO TWO LANE EACH WAY, SO THEY'LL REDUCE THEIR SPEED BECAUSE THAT CHANGES THE PROFILE.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN TALK WITH THEM ABOUT, BUT IT WOULD BE UP INTO OUR CITY LIMITS AND THEN IT WOULD OBVIOUSLY TRANSPORT, YOU SEE AN INCREASE IN TRAFFIC ON THIS AS THAT ROAD CONTINUES AND YOU HAVE ACCESS TO THAT APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT'S BEING BUILT ON THE NORTH SIDE.

THERE DEFINITELY WILL BE AN INCREASE IN TRAFFIC OVER ANYBODY ELSE.

AND IT IS CONTROLLED MANNER.

JUST SO YOU KNOW, I DO TRAVEL THAT ROAD.

I ACTUALLY LIVE IN MISTLETOE HILL AND MY KIDS GO TO HIKE ELEMENTARY.

SO THE CROSSING GUARD IS A CROSSING GUARD IN THE MORNING THAT CONTROLS TRAFFIC FOR THE STUDENTS GOING TO THE SCHOOL.

AND LIKE YOU SAID, THEY'RE MOSTLY CROSSING ACROSS HEMPHILL AT THAT LOCATION.

AND THERE'S THE TEACHERS ACTUALLY DO THE CROSSING IN THE AFTERNOON.

SO THEY ACTUALLY COLLECT ALL THE STUDENTS INTO ONE BIG GROUP THAT GO ACROSS THAT INTERSECTION.

THEY STOP TRAFFIC TO ALLOW EVERYBODY TO CROSS AT ONCE AND THEY'RE PROTECTED THERE.

ANYBODY ELSE? I HAVE SOME ONLINE SPEAKER CARDS PERTAINING TO THIS ITEM.

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THE FIRST ONE IS JODI WHITE.

DON MCALLISTER TO STAY WITH THE SPEED LIMIT OF 35.

I LIVE ON THE CORNER OF MCALLISTER FOR 12 YEARS.

MANY ADULTS, CHILDREN AND BIKE RIDERS.

WALK, RUN, BIKE.

ALONG THE STRETCH OF THE ROAD.

A LOT OF CHILDREN USE THIS ROAD TWICE A DAY, GOING TO AND FROM SCHOOL UNSUPERVISED.

INCREASING THE SPEED LIMIT WILL PUT THE KIDS AT HEIGHTENED RISK.

NUMEROUS VEHICLES RUN THE STOP SIGN AT HEMPHILL AND MCALLISTER.

PLEASE KEEP IT AT 35, MARK GAYLORD SAID 200 ELEMENTARY CHILDREN CROSS HEMPHILL IN THE MORNING AND 200 CROSS IT IN THE AFTERNOON TO GET TO SCHOOL.

IT WOULD BE UNSAFE TO INCREASE THE SPEED LIMIT ON THIS ROAD.

ALREADY MULTIPLE VEHICLES IGNORE THE STOP SIGNS AT HEMPHILL EVERY DAY.

ALREADY MULTIPLE VEHICLES DRAG RACE ON HEMPHILL EVERY DAY.

IF YOU INCREASE THE SPEED HERE, A CHILD IS GOING TO BE INJURED OR KILLED BY A CAR GOING TOO FAST.

VANESSA SHIMEK MEETING SAID I'M SPEAKING AGAINST THE SPEED ON HEMPHILL TO 45.

HEMPHILL MEASURES 1.22 MILES AT 35 MILES AN HOUR.

IT WOULD TAKE 2 MINUTES AND 5 SECONDS FOR A DRIVER TO GO FROM ONE EXTREME TO THE OTHER.

AT 45 MILES AN HOUR, THE SAME CAR COULD TAKE ONE MINUTE.

38 SECONDS IS THE RISK OF LIFE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

CHILDREN WORTH THE 27 SECONDS THE DRIVER WOULD SAVE? WE HAVE MANY CHILDREN THAT CROSS THE STREET TO GO AND COME FROM SCHOOL.

27 SECONDS IS NOT WORTH THE SAFETY OF OUR CHILDREN.

CATHERINE SHELTON.

MY HUSBAND AND I RESIDE AT THE CORNER OF HEMPHILL AND PLUM DRIVE.

WE DO NOT AGREE WITH ALL THE INCREASING THE SPEED LIMIT ON HEMPHILL BETWEEN ALSBURY AND THE EDGE OF THE CITY LIMITS AS WE LIVE DIRECTLY ON THIS ROUTE.

MANY DRIVERS FAILED TO STOP AT THE STOP SIGN AT PLUM DRIVE, SOME ON PURPOSE AND SOME BECAUSE THEY DO NOT SEE THE STOP SIGN IN TIME WHILE DRIVING NORTH.

WE BELIEVE THAT MORE DRIVERS WOULD FAIL TO STOP IF THE SPEED LIMIT WAS INCREASED.

AND HEATHER RODRIGUEZ, IN REGARDS TO INCREASING THE SPEED LIMIT ON HEMPHILL BETWEEN SALISBURY TO THE CITY LIMITS, I LIVE CLOSE TO HEMPHILL IN THIS COMMUNITY AND WE ALREADY HAVE PROBLEMS WITH DRAG RACERS CUTTING THROUGH THE COMMUNITY AND WITH PEOPLE BLOWING STOP SIGNS.

ALSO, THERE'S NO STOP SIGN ON HEMPHILL AT PEACH.

I'M A RUNNER WHO CROSSES THE AREA OFTEN, AND INCREASING THE SPEED LIMIT WOULD MAKE THE CROSSING DIFFICULT.

THANK YOU. AND THOSE ARE ALL THE SPEAKER CARDS THAT I HAVE.

IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM? THAT'S ALL I HAVE MAYOR.

IS THERE A MOTION? I WAS GOING TO ASK REAL QUICK, DO WE HAVE A SCHOOL ZONE RIGHT THROUGH THERE? I HEARD A LOT ABOUT ADJACENT TO THE SCHOOL.

IT DOESN'T QUALIFY AS A SCHOOL ZONE.

YOU GOT TO REALIZE THE SCHOOLS, THE SCHOOL IS SET BACK IS OFF OF MCALLISTER AND PARK MEADOW.

SO YOU HAVE TO GO UP THE HILL PAST A VACANT LOT, NOT A VACANT LOT AND A LARGER LOT BEFORE YOU GET UP THE HILL TO THE SCHOOL, TO THE ENTRANCE.

SO THE SCHOOLS ARE ON, SCHOOL ZONES ARE ON MCALLISTER THEMSELVES AND PARK MEADOW.

SO EVEN PLUM ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE SCHOOL, WHICH IS ADJACENT, DOESN'T HAVE A SCHOOL ZONE.

OKAY, THANK YOU. IS THERE A COMPROMISE ON THIS? MAYBE GO 40.

I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS.

I MEAN, IT'S A POLICY DECISION BY COUNCIL, SO I CAN PROVIDE YOU THE STUDY IN THE DATA INFORMATION AND THE RECOMMENDATION.

AND THEN COUNCIL CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION AND MAKE A DETERMINATION ON WHAT THEY FEEL IS APPROPRIATE.

I THINK I HAVE TO AGREE HERE WITH WHAT THE FOLKS ARE SAYING, BECAUSE, I MEAN, YOU INCREASE IT TO 45 PEOPLE WILL GO 50, I MEAN, HOUR 55 ON THAT ROADWAY.

SO I THINK I AGREE.

AS FAR AS CHANGING IT, I MEAN, IF WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE IT, I WOULD MAYBE GO TO 40, BUT I WOULDN'T GO TO 45 ON THAT ROAD.

YES. TO THE SAFETY CONCERNS.

ANY OTHER THOUGHTS? WELL, I USE IT QUITE A BIT MYSELF.

AND ONCE IF YOU TURN RIGHT OR LEFT EAST OR WEST, COMING BACK TOWARD ALSBURY, IT'S A STRAIGHTAWAY.

BUT I'VE REALLY NEVER SEEN MANY KIDS.

AND I USE IT DURING THE SCHOOL ZONE.

AND THE KIDS ARE BACK UP AT THEIR AT HIKE AND AT THAT POINT I STOPPED AT MCALLISTER AND HEMPHILL.

SO BUT AS RICKY SAID, 45 IS PRETTY FAST.

JUST TO BE SAFE.

AND RICK, DID YOU SAY THERE WAS AN AREA UP THERE.

IT WAS 41 THERE.

NO, THAT WAS I WAS THINKING ABOUT I WAS THINKING ABOUT ALSBURY.

YEAH. OKAY.

YOU KNOW, AND THAT WOULD BE 40.

THE SITUATION WITH DRAG RACING AND DONUTS, IT DON'T MATTER WHAT THE SPEED LIMIT IS, THAT'S JUST A GOOD STRAIGHT RUN.

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OR CAN YOU SAY THAT'S WRONG? BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW.

WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY IS GOING TO DEAL WITH THAT.

MM HMM. ARE WE READY FOR A MOTION ON THIS? WE EXPECT ENGINEERS TO FIGURE OUT THINGS TO MAKE OUR ROADWAYS SAFE.

THE PROPER SIGNAGE, THE PROPER SPEED LIMITS, THE PROPER ROADWAY DESIGNS, ETC.

I DON'T LIKE TO INTERFERE WITH THEM WHEN THEY COME UP WITH A RECOMMENDATION BECAUSE IT'S BASED ON A LOT OF GOOD, WELL THOUGHT AND ACHIEVED DATA.

I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CHANGE AS REQUESTED BY STAFF.

SECOND. I GOT A MOTION BY DAN AND SECOND BY TAMARA.

PLEASE VOTE.

I'M REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT.

I DIDN'T GET TO FINISH BECAUSE I WAS GOING TO SAY I HAD MY BUTTON PUSHED AND THEN I'D LET OTHERS SPEAK.

BUT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE MCALISTER TO THAT.

THE PEACH SIDE, AS WAS MENTIONED A COUPLE OF TIMES IN THE RESIDENCE THAT WROTE IN, IS IT? IT'S BUSY, CARS ARE PASSING OVER AND PEACH LANE IS ALSO A.

PEOPLE LIKE TO GO FAST THROUGH PEACH LANE AND IT'S A CUT THROUGH AND I'M MORE SO WORRIED ABOUT I DON'T I TOO HAVEN'T SEEN THAT MANY WALKERS NECESSARILY ON HEMPHILL BUT I THINK 45 IS A BIG LEAP.

I WOULD FEEL BETTER ABOUT 40 BUT I KNOW CLEARLY IF THE STUDY SHOWED THIS, PEOPLE ARE ALREADY DOING IT.

SO SOMETIMES I THINK I HAVE TO WEIGH THAT OTHER SIDE OF LIKE IS IT USEFUL USE OF THESE TIME TO CONSTANTLY BE WRITING SPEEDING TICKETS WHEN WE KNOW 85% OF THE DRIVERS WERE GOING THIS FAST? SO I'M TORN.

I DON'T WANT PEOPLE GO. I WORRY ABOUT SAFETY, BUT.

AND. VOTE.

SHE DID.

MOTION PASSES, FIVE YES AND TWO NO.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCIL MEMBER VICTORIA.

I HOPE WE ALL THINK IS HARD ABOUT HOW WE VOTE.

AS YOU JUST DID. I'M IMPRESSED SOMETIMES.

YEAH. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

[8B. Consider approval of an ordinance amending Chapter 70 "Streets, Sidewalks and Other Public Places" of the Code of Ordinances, City of Burleson, by repealing and replacing Article V "Public Events" to require permits for public events; providing procedures for the issuance of a permit; requiring the City Council to approve portions of certain permit applications involving certain street closures or in-kind sponsorships; providing for water, health and sanitation facilities for the event; providing for police protection and emergency medical services for the event; requiring the permit applicant and permittee to carry liability insurance of a certain amount and indemnify the city. (First Reading) (Staff Presenter: DeAnna Phillips, Director of Community Services)]

THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM EIGHT B.

THIS IS TO CONSIDER APPROVAL OF AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER 70 STREETS, SIDEWALKS AND OTHER PUBLIC PLACES OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES BY REPEALING AND REPLACING ARTICLE FIVE PUBLIC EVENTS TO REQUIRE PERMITS FOR PUBLIC EVENTS, PROVIDING PROCEDURES FOR THE ISSUANCE OF THESE PERMITS, REQUIRING THE CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE PORTIONS OF CERTAIN PERMIT APPLICATIONS INVOLVING CERTAIN STREET CLOSURES OR AN IN-KIND SPONSORSHIP PROVIDING FOR WATER, HEALTH AND SANITATION FACILITIES FOR THE EVENT, PROVIDING FOR POLICE PROTECTION AND EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES FOR THE EVENT, REQUIRING THE PERMIT APPLICANT AND THE PERMIT T TO CARRY LIABILITY INSURANCE OF CERTAIN AMOUNT AND INDEMNIFY THE CITY.

THIS IS BEFORE US.

ON FIRST READING, THE PRESENTER IS DEANA PHILLIPS, DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY SERVICES.

I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT DEANNA WROTE THIS LENGTHY.

I BELIEVE THIS WAS MATT ROBERTS.

IT SOUNDS VERY BIT LIKE, DOESN'T IT DOES BECAUSE? BECAUSE THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN SOMETHING VERY CUTE OR FUNNY IN THERE IF IT HAD BEEN DONE BY DEANNA.

DEANNA, YOU. YES.

THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

GOOD EVENING. I AM HERE TO SPEAK TO YOU ABOUT AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCE IN PARTICULAR TO OUR PUBLIC EVENTS PORTION.

IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON THIS VERY LONG AMENDMENT TO THE CHAPTER 70, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THIS WAS ENACTED IN 2013. AND JUST LIKE THINGS THAT HAPPEN AS WE MOVE ALONG, AFTER NINE YEARS, STAFF HAS REALIZED THAT THE CITY HAS CHANGED, OUR PUBLIC EVENTS HAVE CHANGED, SOME THINGS JUST NEED TO BE ADDRESSED.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE TONIGHT.

THIS IS ONLY FOR THIRD PARTY EVENT, SO NOT FOR YOU.

THINK ABOUT OUR PARKS AND RECREATION EVENTS, OUR CITY SPONSORED EVENTS.

THIS IS ALL FOR EVENTS FROM OTHER EITHER NONPROFITS OR FOR PROFIT ORGANIZATIONS COMING IN AND APPLYING FOR EVENTS TO BE HELD WITHIN THE CITY.

SO WHAT WE'RE THE MAIN KIND OF REASON WHY THIS IS BEING BROUGHT UP TO YOU IS TO DETERMINE WHAT CITY RESOURCES SHOULD BE USED FOR THIRD PARTY EVENTS.

SO RIGHT NOW IT'S KIND OF UP TO A STAFF'S DECISION AND WE REALLY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT COME TO COUNCIL FOR YOUR DECISION IF THAT IS WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE.

SO THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE TONIGHT.

SO PARTICULARLY IN THE INSTANCES OF STREET CLOSURES AND IN-KIND DONATIONS OF CITY STAFF, TIME OR CITY RESOURCES FOR

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THOSE NON CITY PUBLIC EVENTS.

SO WE'LL JUST KIND OF JUMP ON.

SO THIS IS WHAT WE'VE SEEN WITH THE CURRENT ORDINANCE, IS THAT IF WE HAVE A STREET CLOSURE THAT IS BEING REQUESTED, WE DO THAT AS A STAFF DECISION.

SO PUBLIC SAFETY LOOKS AT IT AND DECIDES, YOU KNOW, YES, THIS IS WHAT WOULD NEED TO HAPPEN TO MAKE THE STREET CLOTHES.

THESE ARE WHERE THE BARRICADES NEED TO BE.

THIS IS WHAT WE NEED TO PUT INFORMATION OUT.

BUT WE NEVER COME TO COUNCIL AND SAY THIS EVENT IS ASKING FOR THIS STREET TO BE CLOSED.

IS THIS A RESOURCE OR IS THIS WHAT COUNCIL WANTS FOR THE PUBLIC? BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, WITH STREET CLOSURES, IT AFFECTS RESIDENTS, IT AFFECTS BUSINESSES, IT AFFECTS OUR TRAFFIC.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT GO INTO CONSIDERATION OF THAT.

ANOTHER THING THAT WE ARE TAKING ON AS A STAFF LEVEL RIGHT NOW IS A DONATION OF CITY TIME.

SO OUR STAFF TIME, CITY EQUIPMENT AND FACILITIES.

SO WE THINK AGAIN, WITH THAT BEING A TAX PAYER, A TAX PAYING ENTITY THAT WE ARE, WE DON'T WANT TO SAY, YES, WE'RE OKAY WITH THIS AS A STAFF LEVEL WHEN COUNCIL MAY NOT BE OKAY WITH US GIVING OUR CITY RESOURCES TO ANY PARTICULAR EVENTS.

SO THAT IS WHAT WE'RE HERE AND THAT'S THE REALLY THE BIGGEST ISSUES WITH THE CURRENT ORDINANCE.

AND SO WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING IS THAT ANY NON CITY PUBLIC EVENT THAT WOULD CLOSE OR IMPACT A PUBLIC STREET, A SIDEWALK, A TRAIL AND IT DOES NOT INCLUDE NEIGHBORHOOD BLOCK PARTIES WOULD NEED TO COME TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL.

ALSO, ANY EVENTS THAT ARE REQUESTED AN IN-KIND SPONSORSHIP OF OVER $500 FROM THE CITY.

AND WE HAVE INCLUDED BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE COST OF POLICING THE EVENT, THE COST OF MEDICAL SERVICES, THE COST OF PUBLIC WORKS SERVICES, PARKS, RECREATION SERVICES OR THE WAIVER OF ANY BUILDING RENTAL FEE WOULD ALSO NEED TO COME TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL.

AND WE CHOSE $500 IS KIND OF A DIMINUTIVE VALUE.

THERE'S NO RHYME OR REASON FOR THAT $500.

IT WAS JUST SOMETHING THAT WE FELT ON A CITY LEVEL AND THROUGH THE SPECIAL EVENT COMMITTEE THAT, YOU KNOW, IF PUBLIC WORKS, GOES OUT AND PUTS OUT TO BUILD BARRICADES, THAT'S NOT GOING TO EQUAL $500.

IT'S NOT REALLY THAT MUCH OF OUR CITY RESOURCES BEING UTILIZED.

AND WE DON'T WANT TO COME DOWN ON EVERY SINGLE TINY EVENT THAT HAS TO COME THROUGH.

SO THAT'S WHY WE SELECTED THAT AMOUNT.

SO FOR EXAMPLES, IF YOU'RE THINKING, WELL, WHAT WOULD THIS INCLUDE? SO LET'S SAY WE HAVE A NON PARTY, A PUBLIC EVENT THAT WANTS TO HAVE A WAIVER OF A BRICK RENTAL ROOM.

SO RIGHT NOW STAFF WOULD MAKE THAT DECISION.

SO WE ARE ASKING THAT TO COME TO YOU TO MAKE THAT DECISION.

IF THEY ARE ASKING FOR THE FEES AT THE BRICK TO BE WAIVED.

SO ANOTHER ONE WOULD BE PARADES.

PARADES HIT IN TWO DIFFERENT AREAS BECAUSE ONE, BECAUSE WE'RE UTILIZING STAFF TO CLOSE ROADS AND TO MONITOR ROADS AND WE'RE USING OUR POLICE FORCE AND THEN ALSO BECAUSE OF THE ROAD CLOSURES.

SO THIS WOULD AFFECT LIKE THE PHS HIGH SCHOOL PARADE, IT WOULD AFFECT THE 4TH OF JULY PARADE AND THE CHRISTMAS PARADE.

NOW, THE 4TH OF JULY AND CHRISTMAS PARADE HAVE RECENTLY COME TO YOU.

AND I BELIEVE JEN PRESENTS THOSE TO YOU WHEN SHE TALKS ABOUT THOSE EVENTS.

SO YOU'RE SEEING THOSE RIGHT NOW, BUT THIS WOULD BE A MORE FORMALIZED PROCESS.

SO THIS WOULD LOOK WHAT THE PROCESS WOULD BE.

SO WE ARE ASKING THEM TO SUBMIT THEIR INFORMATION TO US IF IT NEEDS TO BE APPROVED BY YOU AS COUNSEL 90 DAYS BEFOREHAND.

AND THEN WE ALWAYS PUT IN A NICE LITTLE WAIVER THAT THE CITY MANAGER CAN WAIVE THE 90 DAYS.

IF WE FEEL LIKE A STAFF, WE CAN GET THE INFORMATION READY TO YOU AND GET IT DELIVERED TO YOU IN TIME.

AT THAT POINT, WE WILL DO A PRESENTATION PREPARED WITH THE REQUEST, WITH A STAFF RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL OR DENIAL.

IT WILL PLACE THAT ON THE COUNCIL AGENDA FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

AND THEN WE WILL ALSO HAVE THE APPLICANTS HERE AT THE MEETINGS IN CASE YOU WOULD LIKE TO ASK THEM QUESTIONS AND THEY CAN ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.

SO WE DID. WE ALSO LISTED OUT THE EVENTS NOT INCLUDED FOR YOUR APPROVAL.

SO WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT FOOTBALL GAMES.

WE DON'T EVERY FOOTBALL GAME COMING IN FRONT OF YOU GUYS.

SO WE DID PUT IN THERE THAT IF THE EVENTS ON THE PROPERTY OF AN ESTABLISHED PERMANENT STADIUM, ARENA AUDITORIUM THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE FOR.

THOSE DON'T OBVIOUSLY HAVE TO COME IN FRONT OF YOU.

OTHER THINGS THAT ARE ON PRIVATE PROPERTY THAT DOES NOT IMPACT OUR PUBLIC SAFETY OR CLOSE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAYS, MOTORCADES, OBVIOUSLY FUNERAL PROCESSIONS, EVENTS THAT ARE AUTHORIZED UNDER A SEPARATE AGREEMENT OR PERMIT ISSUED BY CITY OR OTHER AUTHORIZING JURISDICTION EVENTS MANAGED ENTIRELY BY THE CITY OF BURLESON OR ANOTHER GOVERNMENTAL AGENCY ACTING WITHIN THE SCOPE OF ITS FUNCTIONS.

AND I THINK WE HAVE TO PUT THAT IN THERE BECAUSE MATT TELLS US IF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT COMES IN AND WANTS TO CLOSE DOWN ROADS, WE JUST HAVE TO LET IT HAPPEN, RIGHT?

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MATT, CAN I STOP YOU ON.

YES, ON THAT SLIDE REAL QUICK.

NUMBER FIVE, AUTHORIZED UNDER A SEPARATE AGREEMENT OR PERMIT ISSUED BY THE CITY, DOES THIS APPLY TO THE HOT MUD EVENTS THAT ARE BEING HELD? GREAT QUESTION. SO, NO, THIS THE HOT MOP WOULD STILL COME IN FRONT OF YOU.

SO YOU WOULD SAY, YES, WE WILL.

WE'LL GIVE A GRANT TO THE HOT SHOT.

AND THEN IF THEY WANT IT TO CLOSE DOWN ROADS OR IF THEY WANT IT TO WAIVE THE POLICE STAFFING, IF THEY DIDN'T WANT TO PAY FOR IT, IT WOULD COME IN FRONT OF YOU FOR THAT DECISION AGAIN.

SO COME TWICE.

SO AS OF RIGHT NOW, HAVE YOU HAD REQUESTS FOR THINGS LIKE THAT FOR CLOSING ROADS? YES. SO WE CLOSE ROADS, WE'LL CLOSE.

WARREN, JUST THIS PAST WEEKEND, WE CLOSED PORTIONS AROUND OLD TOWN FOR WINE.

I CAN'T REMEMBER THE FULL NAME.

OH, YEAH, THEY'RE IN WINE.

YEAH, TWO WEEKS. SO I'M SORRY.

I CAN'T REMEMBER THE FULL NAME, BUT WE DID CLOSE PORTIONS OF THAT AND THAT WAS AT A STAFF LEVEL THAT WE DETERMINED THAT.

AND YOU WAIVED IT? YES. AND YOU DON'T WANT TO BE PUT IN THAT POSITION ANYMORE? THAT'S CORRECT. I THANK YOU.

ONE OF IT IS JUST BECAUSE WE FEEL LIKE IF WE'RE GOING TO SAY THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO CHARGE WHAT IS STAFF TO DECIDE WHAT BUSINESS GETS IT AND WHAT NONPROFIT GETS IT, SO, WELL, THAT'S GOING TO LEAD TO US HAVING TO CREATE A POLICY OF OUR OWN IF WE END UP CHANGING THIS BECAUSE WE TOO I DON'T WANT TO BE SUBJECTIVE ABOUT THIS.

I WANT IT TO BE VERY CLEAR AND CUT AND DRY.

SO FOR ALL OF US, I DON'T WANT YOU GUYS TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT AND THEN I DON'T WANT IT TO HAVE TO BE LIKE THAT FOR US EITHER.

I THINK THAT WAS THE THING WE WOULD TELL YOU IS THEY'RE NEVER REALLY CLEAR AND CUT AND DRY AS MUCH AS WE WANT THEM TO BE.

I THINK WHEN YOU'RE IMPACTING BUSINESSES OR YOU'RE IMPACTING RESIDENTS IN AN AREA, WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE'S SOME GOOD VISIBILITY FOR THE COUNCIL OF IS THIS EVENT WORTHY OF THOSE CLOSURES AND IS IT WORTHY OF THE EXPENSE OF PUBLIC FUNDS AND RESOURCES TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN? I THINK A LOT OF THE LARGER EVENTS, AS DENNIS SAID, THEY'RE ALREADY COMING TO YOU ALREADY THE 4TH OF JULY AND THE CHRISTMAS PARADE, CHRISTMAS PARADE, THOSE ARE ALREADY HAPPENING.

BUT THIS WILL FORMALIZE THAT.

AND OUR RECOMMENDATION TO YOU IS AS THE CITY CONTINUES TO GROW, YOU HAVE MORE EVENTS.

IT JUST GIVES THE COUNCILS MORE VISIBILITY AND CONTROL OF WHAT'S APPROPRIATE, WHAT'S NOT.

BUT IT IS SUBJECTIVE AND CAN BE DIFFICULT AT TIMES.

WE RECOGNIZE THAT. AND JUST OTHER SOME HOUSEKEEPING ITEMS THAT WERE ALSO IN THE ORDINANCE.

CHANGE IS SOME SPECIFIC WORDING.

WE'VE UPDATED, WE CALL IT WE CALL IT THE CODE OFFICIAL WHO MADE ALL THE DECISIONS.

BUT NOW WE'RE CHANGING THAT TO THE PUBLIC EVENT OFFICIAL, WHICH IS JONI VAN NOY CURRENTLY IS OUR PUBLIC EVENT OFFICIAL ON OUR SPECIAL EVENT COMMITTEE.

WE'VE CHANGED THE DEFINITION OF WHAT A PUBLIC EVENT.

SO BEFORE A PUBLIC EVENT WAS BASED ON ATTENDANCE NUMBER, SO ANYTHING OVER 500 OR MORE WAS CONSIDERED A PUBLIC EVENT.

WE'VE TAKEN OUT THAT NUMBER BECAUSE WE FELT LIKE IF THEY WERE GOING TO CLOSE A ROAD, BUT THEY SAID, WELL, WE'RE ONLY GOING TO HAVE 200 PEOPLE, SO IT'S NOT CONSIDERED A PUBLIC EVENT, THEN WE DON'T NEED TO GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

AND THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE WANTED TO ADDRESS.

SO IT'S NOT THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE, IT'S THE IMPACT OF WHAT THE EVENTS HAVING.

AND WE ALSO ADDED DEFINITIONS FOR A MARATHON'S FIVE K RUNS NEIGHBORHOOD BLOCK PARTIES AND WHAT A PARADE IS.

AND WE APPLICATION, WE UPDATED THE APPLICATION PROCEDURE, SUBMITTAL DATES.

WE ADDED A PORTION WHERE WE ARE REQUIRING THEM TO HAVE TRAFFIC CONTROL PLANS AND WHICH WE DIDN'T HAVE IN THERE BEFORE.

AND WE'RE ALSO UPDATING THE HOURS OF OPERATIONS FOR EVENTS TO MATCH THE NOISE ORDINANCE.

RIGHT NOW WE DIDN'T MATCH THE NOISE ORDINANCE, SO WE JUST MADE SURE THAT IT ALIGNED WITH THAT.

AND THAT IS ALL I HAVE.

I'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS.

I WAS LOOKING TO SEE IF JOAN IS HERE, BUT SHE'S NOT, SO I'LL JUST ANSWER FOR HER IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING.

ANY QUESTIONS? IS THERE A MOTION? SO I HAVE IT'S GOT TO BE A SECOND READING.

IS THAT CORRECT, MATT? CORRECT. SO THIS IS THE MOTION ON THE FIRST READING TO BRING IT BACK FOR THE NEXT ONCE AGAIN, IS THERE A MOTION? MOTION BY RICK AND SECOND BY RONNIE.

PLEASE VOTE. PASSES.

UNANIMOUS. THANK YOU.

AND I NEVER HAVE TO DO TWO READINGS, SO I WAS VERY CONFUSED.

THANKS. THANK YOU.

[8C. Consider approval of a contract with PlayWorks, Inc. for the purchase and installation of Playwell products at Wakefield Park through an existing purchasing cooperative agreement with Buyboard in the amount not to exceed $193,000. (Staff Presenter: Jen Basham, Director of Parks and Recreation)]

CITY COUNCIL. THAT BRINGS US TO ITEMS EIGHT C CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A CONTRACT WITH PLAYWORKS INC FOR THE PURCHASE AND INSTALLATION OF

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PLAY WELL PRODUCTS AT WAKEFIELD PARK.

MY GOODNESS. JEN THROUGH AN EXISTING PURCHASING COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT WITH BY BOARD IN THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED 193,000.

JEN BASHAM, DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION, IS OUR STAFF PRESENTER WITH HER TONGUE TYING TITLE.

YES, AND IT'S IT'S MATT'S FAULT.

IT WAS SO LONG, I SAID SOLE SOURCE.

HE SAID COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT IS FINE.

ALL RIGHT. SO THIS EVENING WE'RE BRINGING WAKEFIELD PARK TO YOU.

THIS WAS ONE OF THE THREE PARKS THAT WE PLAN TO REFURBISH THIS YEAR AND WOULD HAVE COME TO YOU LAST MONTH.

BUT WE WANTED TO ENSURE, BASED ON THE DESIGN THAT WAS CHOSEN BY THE COMMUNITY THAT THE NEIGHBORING.

THAT THE NEIGHBORS ADJACENT TO IT HAD SEEN THIS PLAYGROUND, THAT THEY WERE IN SUPPORT OF IT AND THAT THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY FEEDBACK THAT WE DIDN'T ADDRESS PRIOR TO BRINGING IT TO YOU. SO THIS IS THE LAST ONE AND WE'LL GET STARTED ON DESIGN.