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I'M GOING TO OPEN THIS SESSION UP AT 5:31.
WE HAVE GOING TO SAY OUR INVOCATION TODAY IS KEVIN AND I'M GOING TO GET IT WHILE KOVIAC? IS THAT CLOSE ENOUGH? WITH THE BURLESON ADVENTIST CHURCH.
IF EVERYBODY WOULD STAND AND REMAIN STANDING AT OUR INVOCATION, FOR THE PLEDGES.
LET'S BOW OUR HEADS FOR PRAYER.
DEAR HEAVENLY FATHER, WE COME BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING THANKING YOU FOR BEING A GOD THAT CARES ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY, OUR SCHOOLS, OUR BUSINESSES, OUR FRIENDS, OUR NEIGHBORS. WE THANK YOU FOR BEING A GOD WHO IS EVER PRESENT AND ABLE TO DO ALL THINGS.
LORD, WE INVITE YOU THIS EVENING INTO THIS CHAMBER THAT YOU WOULD LEAD AND GUIDE THE CONVERSATIONS AND THE DECISIONS MADE THAT THEY WILL ULTIMATELY SERVE YOUR BEST INTEREST FOR THOSE OF US WHO CALL BURLESON HOME.
THANK YOU FOR EACH PERSON REPRESENTED HERE TONIGHT.
OF ALLEGIANCE], PLEDGE] GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
[2A. Proclamation recognizing the Week of September 19, 2022, the 235th anniversary of the framing of the constitution, as Constitution Week. (Recipient: Betsy Ruffin, Daughters of the American Revolution, Nathaniel Winston Chapter)]
THAT BRINGS US TO SECTION TWO PUBLIC PRESENTATIONS UNDER TWO A PROCLAMATIONS WE DO HAVE A PROCLAMATION TONIGHT RECOGNIZING THE WEEK OF SEPTEMBER 19, 2022 AS THE 230/235 ANNIVERSARY OF THE FRAMING OF THE CONSTITUTION AS CONSTITUTION WEEK.MAYOR. I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR WHAT YOU DO.
WE'VE GOT A GREAT CONSTITUTION.
I WANT TO READ THE PROCLAMATION NOW.
NOW, THEREFORE, I MAYOR CHRIS FLETCHER, ON BEHALF OF THE CITIZENS OF BURLESON AND THE ENTIRE CITY COUNCIL, HEREBY PROCLAIMED THE WEEK OF SEPTEMBER 19TH, 2022, AS CONSTITUTION WEEK IN THE CITY OF BURLESON WITH A COUNCIL.
MEET ME DOWN FRONT FOR PICTURES.
OKAY. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
THAT WE HAVE NO OTHER PRESENTATIONS THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM 2C COMMUNITY INTEREST ITEMS COUNCIL.
[2C.Community Interest Items This is a standing item on the agenda of every regular meeting of the City Council. An “item of community interest” includes the following: -Expression of thanks, congratulations, or condolence; -Information regarding holiday schedules; -Honorary recognitions of city officials, employees, or other citizens; -Reminders about upcoming events sponsored by the city or other entity that is scheduled to be attended by city official or city employee; and -Announcements involving imminent public health and safety threats to the city.]
HAD A GREAT BE HEALTHY WALK FOR RICK AND I.IT WAS A WALK, SOME IT WAS A RUN.
WE DIDN'T COME IN LAST, BY THE WAY.
AND THEN NOEL DUNN CAME OVER AND Y'ALL HAVE SOME MORE TO SAY.
THAT WAS GREAT. THE KIDS CAME THROUGH AND GOT A LITTLE TALK FROM THE MAYOR AND DAN.
THEY WALKED A LOT THAT DAY, TOO.
SO IT WAS ALL IN ALL, IT WAS A GREAT WEEK.
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SEPTEMBER 15TH THROUGH OCTOBER 15TH IS NATIONAL HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH.AND I WANTED TO BRING THAT TO THE FOREFRONT.
AMERICANS COME IN ALL COLORS, BACKGROUNDS, HERITAGE, NATIONALITIES.
IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE TAKE TIME TO ACKNOWLEDGE OUR DIFFERENCES AND LEARN FROM ONE ANOTHER.
AND THERE'S A LOT OF GREAT HISPANIC EVENTS CELEBRATING THESE WONDERFUL TRADITIONS THAT THEY THE CULTURE DOES THROUGHOUT THE FORT WORTH AND NORTH TEXAS AREA.
I ENCOURAGE YOU TO GET ONLINE AND LOOK FOR A WONDERFUL EVENT TO ATTEND.
THERE ARE ALWAYS LOTS OF GREAT MUSIC COLORS, FOOD THAT'S TO DIE FOR.
I WANT TO GIVE YOU HUGE SHOUT OUT TO THE TARRANT COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE, ALONG WITH THE MPD.
AND THEY ACTED UPON IT AND WERE ABLE TO STOP A MASS SHOOTING EVENT AT THEIR HOMECOMING.
SO HUGE SHOUT OUTS TO THOSE INDIVIDUALS.
IF YOU SEE SOMETHING, SAY SOMETHING.
OKAY. I WANT TO ECHO SOME OF THE SENTIMENTS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN SHARED.
WE HAD A GOOD TIME AT THE BE HEALTHY RUN.
I WASN'T LAST, BUT MY LITTLE ONES LEFT ME IN THE DUST.
BUT THE PARTICIPATION WAS FUN.
IT SEEMED SUCH A HIGH ENERGY AND A POSITIVE EVENT.
I WANT TO THANK THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR THE TRAFFIC AT PUBLIC WORKS FOR BLOCKING OFF STREETS, THE TRAFFIC CONTROL, TO KEEP ENSURING THAT PEOPLE ARE SAFE. I KNOW OF A WALKER OR TWO THAT NEEDED SOME ASSISTANCE ON THEIR RUN AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WAS RIGHT THERE WITH THEIR LITTLE POLARIS TYPE VEHICLE AND HELPED THEM GET TO THE FINISH LINE.
SO I JUST WANT TO THANK ALL THE DEPARTMENTS THAT HELPED MAKE THAT A SUCCESS.
WE ALSO HAD A RECORD PARTICIPATION IN OUR TRASH BASH AND SO THANK YOU TO ALL THE VOLUNTEERS ACROSS OUR COMMUNITY WHO PICKED UP TRASH AND HELP ENSURE THAT OUR COMMUNITY STAYS NICE AND CLEAN.
AND SO I JUST WANT TO THANK THOSE VOLUNTEERS.
THE 24TH THIS COMING SATURDAY, THE FINAL MOVIE IN THE PLAZA WILL HAPPEN THAT EVENING.
AND ALSO THE MORNING OF THE 24TH FROM 930 TO 11 IS DOGS AND DONUTS AT THE DOG PARK THIS YEAR.
SO COME OUT, BRING YOUR FURRY FRIENDS AND LET'S CELEBRATE AND GET FREE DONUTS AND LOTS OF GOODIES.
I KNOW THERE ARE USUALLY SOME GOOD VENDORS THERE WITH GOODIES FOR YOUR DOGS AND SUCH.
SO THANK YOU ALL TO THE DEPARTMENTS THAT ENSURE THAT THESE EVENTS ARE A SUCCESS FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
AND WE'LL TOP IT OFF BY TALKING ABOUT THE COOL SOUNDS OF FALL.
WE HAVE ANOTHER CONCERT SERIES WEEKEND AFTER NEXT.
ALEX OR ANYBODY KNOWS? I THINK IT'S WEEKEND AFTER NEXT.
WE HAVE OUR SECOND ONE OF THE COOLEST SOUNDS OF SUMMER.
LATINO MUSIC TIES IN ON WHAT WE'RE DOING.
SO ANYWAY, I KNOW THE SELENA TRIBUTES COMING OCTOBER 15TH, SO THANK YOU COUNCILWOMAN PAYNE FOR MENTIONING HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH BECAUSE AS SHE MENTIONED, THERE'S A LOT OF FUN THINGS THAT OUR LIBRARY HAS A BEAUTIFUL DISPLAY.
BUT WE ALSO HAVE A FOOD TRUCK NIGHT AND A SELENA TRIBUTE NIGHT, WHICH I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO.
YES. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
THAT BRINGS US TO SECTION THREE.
[3B.Items to be withdrawn from the Consent Agenda for separate discussion by the City Council, staff, or members of the public in attendance. Items to be added to the Consent Agenda require an official vote by the City Council.]
SEPARATE DISCUSSION BY THE CITY COUNCIL STAFF OR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC IN ATTENDANCE AND ITEMS TO BE ADDED TO THE CONSENT AGENDA WHICH REQUIRE AN OFFICIAL VOTE BY THE CITY COUNCIL ONLY FOR THE ADDITION OF ITEMS. AND I HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED THAT COUNCILMEMBER STANFORD IS GOING TO REMOVE TWO ITEMS FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA.THOSE ITEMS WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER ITEMS FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA TO BE REMOVED? ANYBODY. THAT BRINGS US TO SECTION FOUR CITIZENS APPEARANCE.
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MINUTES. EACH PERSON IN ATTENDANCE WHO DESIRES TO SPEAK TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON AN ITEM POSTED ON THE AGENDA SHALL SPEAK WHEN THAT ITEM IS CALLED FORWARD.I HAVE NO SPEAKER CARDS THAT ARE FOR NON AGENDA ITEMS, ONLY FOR AGENDA ITEMS. SO IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON AN ITEM NOT LISTED ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA? THERE ARE NONE. SO WE WILL MOVE ON TO SECTION FIVE, THE CONSENT AGENDA.
[5.CONSENT AGENDA]
ALL ITEMS LISTED ON THE CONSENT AGENDA ARE CONSIDERED TO BE ROUTINE BY THE CITY COUNCIL AND WILL BE ENACTED WITH ONE MOTION.THERE WILL BE NO SEPARATE DISCUSSION UNLESS THE ITEM IS REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA.
THE CONSENT AGENDA IS ITEM FIVE AND THEN FIVE D THROUGH FIVE.
M MAYOR IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE? SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION BY DAN AND THE SECOND BY VICTORIA.
PLEASE VOTE. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUS.
OKAY. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM FIVE B.
CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A FIVE YEAR CONTRACT WITH BMW WRECKING SERVICE AS AN APPROVED OPERATOR IN THE CITY OF BURLESON ROTATION PURSUANT TO ORDINANCE B-67B.
STAFF CONTACT IS JUSTIN SCHARNHORST PURCHASING MANAGER.
I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUICK SLIDES PUT TOGETHER.
I'M HAPPY TO GO THROUGH THEM OR ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE ABOUT THE PROPOSED AGREEMENT.
WE'RE DOING BOTH. RIGHT. B AND C.
DO YOU WANT TO READ THEM BOTH? CORRECT. DID YOU WANT TO THEM TO GET.
DO YOU HAVE ONE PRESENTATION OR DO YOU HAVE A PRESENTATION FOR PRESENTATION ONE? YES. SO THEN WE'LL CONSIDER ALSO FIVE C CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A FIVE YEAR CONTRACT WITH BEAR TOWING SERVICES AS AN APPROVED OPERATOR IN THE CITY OF BURLESON ROTATION PURSUANT TO ORDINANCE B-67B.
GOOD EVENING. JUST A QUICK BACKGROUND ON THE RECORD SERVICES PROPOSED BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING.
THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPTED AN ORDINANCE IN 2002.
HISTORICALLY, THE CITY HAS USED A ROTATION INDICATING THAT A CALL WOULD BE MADE TO ONE RECORD.
THE NEXT CALL WOULD GO TO A DIFFERENT RECORD ON A ROTATION BASIS.
SOME OF THE STIPULATIONS IN THE RFP REQUIRED THAT THE BUSINESS BE LOCATED IN THE CITY LIMITS OF BURLESON FACILITY CONDITIONS, LICENSING FEES AND REGULATIONS UNDER THIS AGREEMENT ARE GOVERNED BY THE STATE OF TEXAS.
THE RFP WENT TO FIVE PLAN ROOMS AND THREE OPERATORS, TWO OF WHICH RESPONDED THAT PROPOSED AGREEMENTS BEFORE YOU OR FOR FIVE YEAR TERMS WITH THE OPTION TO CANCEL IN 30 DAYS WRITTEN NOTICE BY THE CITY AND DURING THE EVALUATION PROCESS.
THIS WAS REVIEWED BY FIRE, POLICE AND PUBLIC WORKS.
THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH BEERS HAVING WORKED WITH THEM OVER IN FORT WORTH, BUT NOT AS MUCH WITH BMW.
ARE THEY A 24 HOUR, SEVEN DAY A WEEK FACILITY ACTUALLY ONSITE? COUNCIL MEMBER STANFORD. OUR CONTRACT IS A REQUIREMENT FOR THEM TO BE ON CALL SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, 24 HOURS A DAY, BUT NOT ONSITE.
BUT I MEAN, ARE THEY THERE BECAUSE THE STATE LAW REQUIRES THEM TO BE ON SITE SO THAT THEY CAN ACTUALLY GIVE THE VEHICLES BACK OR ALLOW A POLICE OFFICER TO BE ABLE TO GO IN AND LOOK AT THE VEHICLES? IT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE ACTUALLY ON SITE.
WHAT I DO KNOW IS THAT THEIR LOCATION IS WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS OF BURLESON AND PER THE CONTRACT, WE REQUIRED THOSE OPERATORS THAT WE WERE BRINGING FORWARD TO THIS EVENING TO BE ON CALL SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, 24 HOURS A DAY DURING THE 65 DAYS A YEAR.
AND I KNOW WE'VE DONE WORK WITH THEM IN THE PAST.
DO WE HAVE A BREAKDOWN AS FAR AS IF THEY'VE AS FAR AS THIS GOES FOR BOTH OF THEM, AS FAR AS MAYBE HOW MANY CALLS THEY MIGHT HAVE MISSED IF THEY PASSED ON CALLS, RESPONSE TIMES. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PROVIDING EXCELLENT SERVICE TO NOT ONLY OUR CITIZENS, BUT ALSO TO OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AND AND FIRE DEPARTMENT.
BECAUSE IF THEY'RE OUT ON THE SCENE OF A WRECK AND WE'RE HAVING TO WAIT AN INORDINATE AMOUNT OF TIME, THIS GOES BACK TO MY YEARS IN LAW ENFORCEMENT STANDING ON THE SIDE OF THE HIGHWAY, WAITING ON WRECKERS, THAT KIND OF THING.
CHIEF, I DON'T WANT TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT.
WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO? DO YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE, CHIEF, ANSWERING ANYTHING ABOUT.
BECAUSE I REALLY WANT TO MAKE SURE YOUR PEOPLE ARE TAKING CARE OF.
AND THEN WE'RE GETTING THESE ROADS CLEARED UP FAST.
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YEAH, I APPRECIATE THAT.COUNCIL MEMBER STANFORD, BILLY CORDELL, CHIEF OF POLICE.
I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT NUMBERS FOR YOU.
I KNOW THAT BMW HAS PASSED SOME THIS MONTH.
THEN THAT CALL WOULD THEN GO TO BEARD'S.
WHO HAS NOT PASSED ANY IS WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING.
BUT I CAN GO BACK AND GET FINAL DETAILS ON THAT.
BUT BMW, MY UNDERSTANDING HAS BEEN A LONG TIME RECORD SERVICE WITHIN BURLESON.
I DON'T RECALL FROM MY DEPUTY CHIEF THAT DEALS WITH THEM MOSTLY OF ANY SIGNIFICANT PROBLEMS. I MEAN, LIKE EVERY OTHER RECORD SERVICE YOU MAY GET OUT THERE AND YOU NEED HELP OR YOU DON'T HAVE THE APPROPRIATE EQUIPMENT TO OVERTURN A CONCRETE TRUCK WAS ONE THAT COMES TO MIND. BUT I DON'T KNOW OF ANYTHING CONCRETE THAT I CAN TELL YOU THAT WOULD EXCLUDE EITHER ONE OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS.
MY CONCERN IS THIS BEING A FIVE YEAR CONTRACT.
YES, SIR. YES, IT'S A FIVE YEAR TERM.
THE CITY HAS THE OPTION TO CANCEL AT ANY TIME IN 30 DAYS.
RENT NOTICE. TYPICALLY WHAT WE'LL DO, MULTI-YEAR AGREEMENTS.
WE'LL EVALUATE THEIR PERFORMANCE ON AN ANNUAL BASIS, THE BEST WE CAN.
SO IF THERE ARE INDICATIONS THAT THERE'S PERFORMANCE ISSUES, WE COULD ADDRESS THOSE.
OKAY. THAT WAS MY MAIN CONCERN.
I DIDN'T WANT TO I DIDN'T WANT TO LOCK US INTO SOMETHING LONG TERM.
SO I WILL CALL FORWARD EACH ONE OF THOSE.
SO. ITEM FIVE, B MAYOR, IF YOU WILL CALL FOR A MOTION.
SURE. MOTION TO APPROVAL [INAUDIBLE].
UNANIMOUS. WELL, MOVE US ON TO ITEM FIVE C? IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, BUT KNOWING ABOUT THE 30 DAY.
YOU'RE NOT SHOWING UP. THERE YOU GO.
I HAVE A MOTION BY JIMMY, A SECOND BY RONNIE.
PLEASE VOTE. PASSES UNANIMOUS.
THAT BRINGS US TO SECTION SIX DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS.
[6A.200 S Dobson (Case 22-108): Hold a public hearing and consider approval of an ordinance for a zoning change request from “SF7”, Single-family dwelling district-7, to “SFA" Single-family attached dwelling district for future residential development. (First and Final Reading) (Staff Presenter: Tony McIlwain, Director of Development Services) (The Planning and Zoning Commission motion for approval failed to pass 2-2).]
SIX A IS 200 AND SOUTH DOBSON CASE 22, DASH 108.HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER APPROVAL OF AN ORDINANCE FOR A ZONING CHANGE.
THIS IS BEFORE CITY COUNCIL ON FIRST AND FINAL READING.
THE STAFF PRESENTER IS TONY MCELWAIN, DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
AS YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN, THE SITE IS A LITTLE LESS THAN A THIRD OF AN ACRE.
MISS NELSON OF PRACTICE ARCHITECTURE OFFICE IS HERE IN ATTENDANCE REPRESENTING THE PROPERTY OWNERS.
THE SPLIT SCREEN GRAPHIC SHOWS THE PROPERTY HIGHLIGHTED.
IT'S THAT SQUARE THAT'S HIGHLIGHTED IN LIGHT BLUE AND WHERE IT RELATES TO THE REST OF THE CITY IN TERMS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE CURRENT ZONING OF THE SITE AND SURROUNDING PROPERTIES, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PROMOTES MIXED USE AND RETAIL DEVELOPMENT, BUT ONE OF THE CORRESPONDING ZONING DISTRICTS THUS ALLOWED A SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED, WHICH IS WHAT THIS PROPOSAL IS BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.
SO FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY IN QUESTION, THEY'RE BEYOND THE ZONING CASE TO OTHER ENTITLEMENT STEPS THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE TAKEN IF APPROVED BY YOU TONIGHT. THAT WOULD INCLUDE SUBMISSION AND APPROVAL OF A SITE PLAN AND ALSO CONSIDERATION BEFORE THE OLD TOWN STANDARDS REVIEW COMMITTEE.
AND SO YOU CAN TAKE SOME REASSURANCE THAT IF THIS IS APPROVED TONIGHT, STAFF WILL COME BACK, HAVING RECEIVED RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION REGARDING THE SITE PLAN AND ALSO WHETHER OR NOT THIS ARCHITECTURAL STYLE FITS WITHIN THE RESIDENTIAL DESIGN TYPES THAT WE PROMOTE IN THE CITY'S CODE.
WHAT YOU HAVE, COUNCIL, ARE A TOTAL OF FOUR UNITS.
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PER OUR CODE, THESE UNITS ARE ALLOWED TO BE TWO AND ONE HALF STORIES TALL.NO WAIVERS ARE BEING REQUESTED WITH REGARD TO SETBACKS OR THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
WE NOTIFIED SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 300 FEET, PUBLISHED THIS IN THE NEWSPAPER AS WELL.
WE DID RECEIVE THREE LETTERS OF OPPOSITION FROM ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS, AND ON FRIDAY I PROVIDED YOU ALL WITH A PETITION THAT WAS RECEIVED BY CITY STAFF ALSO, AND I BELIEVE THE CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE PROVIDED YOU WITH HARD COPIES OF THAT AS WELL.
STAFF IS IN SUPPORT OF THE ZONING CHANGE BECAUSE THE SINGLE FAMILY TAX MEETS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
AND ALSO YOU SEE OFF TO THE BLUE, OFF TO THE RIGHT AND BLUE.
THE SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING ATTACHED, WHICH IS THIS TYPE THAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.
SO I WANT TO TALK TO YOU REGARDING THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION'S ACTION ON THE ITEM.
ESSENTIALLY, THEY RECEIVED THE REPORT THAT WAS A22 TIE THE EVENING THAT IT WENT FORWARD.
SO I'LL ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
AGAIN, THE APPLICANT'S AGENT IS IN ATTENDANCE TONIGHT AS WELL.
DID YOU WANT TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FIRST OR YOU SHOULD TAKE THE TIME ON THIS? I OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 553.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MR. MCELWAIN. YES, SIR.
OUR INFORMATION SAYS THAT P AND Z FAILED TO PASS THIS, BUT THEY DID SO WITH A SPLIT VOTE.
SO TWO OF THE MEMBERS WERE OPPOSED AND APPARENTLY THEY WERE SHORTHANDED THAT NIGHT.
SO WHAT WAS MENTIONED BY P AND Z IS REASONS AGAINST THIS.
SURE. SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP, THERE WERE CONCERNS REGARDING WHETHER OR NOT THAT ZONING DISTRICT WAS A COMPATIBLE FIT FOR THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY.
WE OBVIOUSLY THEY KNOW THAT WHILE IT'S ALLOWED IN A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT WAS CONCERNED ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT SFA WAS A GOOD FIT FOR THAT SITE, SOME OF THE INDIVIDUALS HAD CONCERNS ABOUT THE NUMBER OF UNITS, WHETHER OR NOT THERE WOULD BE FOUR UNITS UNDER ONE ROOF.
THERE ARE TWO UNITS UNDER TWO ROOFS.
THERE ARE SOME SITE CONSTRAINTS THAT WOULD MAKE IT COST PROHIBITIVE, I THINK, FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER TO PROCEED WITH SOMETHING BEYOND HAVING THOSE THINGS AS A FOUR UNIT BLOCK. SO THOSE WERE SOME OF THE CHIEF CONCERNS THAT WERE RAISED THAT NIGHT.
MY RECOLLECTION OF THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY IS THAT THIS WAS A DAYCARE CENTER.
YES, SIR. IN THE PAST, HOW DID THAT DAYCARE USE FIT? WAS IT SEVEN NONCONFORMING USE OR WHAT? WHAT WAS? NON-CONFORMING? YES, SIR. I MEAN, A COMMERCIAL DAYCARE NOT OPERATING OUT OF A HOME CAN BE WITHIN THE SF SEVEN DISTRICT.
SO TYPICALLY DAYCARES HAVE A THRESHOLD.
A TWO DOZEN LEAST PROBABLY ON A SLOW DAY.
MY GIRLS WENT THERE, SO IT WAS A CONVERTED HOUSE TO A DAYCARE.
I WONDER IF THAT MATTERS AS ALL I'M SAYING.
I DON'T KNOW. IT WAS A COMMERCIAL BUSINESS FOR SURE.
YEAH, IT'S NOT A HOME BASED BUSINESS.
IT WAS NOT HOME BASED BUSINESS.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO GET AT FOR ME.
RIGHT. UNDERSTAND, I'M JUST TRYING TO CLARIFY IT.
I WAS TALKING ABOUT THE SAME PIECE OF PROPERTY.
SURE. DOES SFA HAVE A LIMIT ON HOW MANY ROOFTOPS OR HOW MANY UNITS CAN GO ON? SAID LOT.
I DROVE AROUND AND AROUND IT TODAY AND I TRIED TO PICTURE FOUR UNITS ON THIS.
AND I'M JUST I'M HAVING TROUBLE ENVISIONING THE SPACE.
SURE. AND I'M HESITANT ON THIS IS A THE RENDERINGS WE'VE BEEN PROVIDED ARE CONCEPTUAL, AM I CORRECT?
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BECAUSE I'M WONDERING LIKE WILL REAR PARKING ACTUALLY WORK THERE? ARE THOSE GARAGES OR ARE THEY JUST PARKING SPOTS? THE SPOTS IN FRONT AND THAT ARE ACTUALLY ON DOBSON ARE MAINTAINED BY US, IS THAT CORRECT? SO THEY'RE I DON'T WANT TO RUN INTO ANOTHER A SIMILAR SITUATION WITH THE DEPOT WHERE WE'RE SAYING WE'RE GOING TO MAINTAIN THESE PARKING SPOTS, BUT THEY'RE USED BY RESIDENTS BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE PARKING AVAILABLE TO THEM.THERE'S A STREET I MEAN, THERE'S A SCHOOL RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET.
SO THE CODE OUR CODE REQUIRES A 1000 SQUARE FEET FLOOR AREA RATIO FOR A UNIT, AND EACH UNIT HAS TO BE ON AT LEAST 2500 SQUARE FEET OF LAND AREA.
SO JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME SOME INSIGHT AS TO THE DISCUSSIONS, THERE WAS AN APPETITE FOR FIVE TOWNHOMES, BUT THAT WOULD HAVE REQUIRED A WAIVER BECAUSE IT WOULD HAVE NOT MET ALL THE SET BACK REQUIREMENTS.
SO FOUR IS THE NUMBER THAT THEY WOULD BE LIMITED TO IN THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION.
THE QUESTION IS WITH REGARD TO.
OVERALL SITE PLANNING ITEMS WILL BE DISCUSSED IF IT'S APPROVED TONIGHT.
SO THERE'S NO ACCOMPANYING SITE PLAN.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT STAFF WOULD DO IS LOOK AT IN DISCRETE MEASURABLES, WILL THE PARKING SPACES WORK? WELL, THE TURNING RADIUS IS ALREADY AT WORK.
WOULD WE ESSENTIALLY GET ON THE GROUND? SOMETHING CLOSE TO THE CONCEPT.
I THINK THAT'S ONE OF OUR OLD TOWN DESIGN STANDARDS.
REQUIREMENTS ARE SET, REQUIREMENTS COME IN.
WHAT WE CAN GIVE YOU SOME ASSURANCE AND BRING BACK TO YOU ACTUALLY A RECOMMENDATION FROM BOTH BODIES, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, ABOUT THE ELEVATION, THE APPEARANCE SITE PLAN. SO YOU'LL GET ALL OF THIS AGAIN IF IT'S APPROVED TONIGHT AND YOU WILL BE THE ONE IN THE SEAT WITH REGARD TO WHETHER OR NOT YOU WANT TO APPROVE WHAT.
SO WE'LL GET A SECOND BITE OF THE APPLE.
IT'S NOT MY FEAR IS TO PASS SFA AND THEN ONCE THAT'S ZONED TO THAT, IT CAN THEN BE DEVELOPED.
HOW? I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE WORKING DILIGENTLY ON THE REHABILITATION AND REVITALIZATION OF OLD TOWN, AND I AM VERY PROTECTIVE OF WHAT'S GOING, WHAT FITS, WHAT MAKES SENSE AND BEING RESPECTFUL OF THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE THERE AND ALSO LOOKING TOWARD THE FUTURE.
AND SO THERE'S A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT COMING IN PARTICULAR ON THIS SIDE OF THE RAILROAD TRACKS.
AND I AM, I THINK THE WALKABILITY THAT I'M LOOKING FAVORABLY ON TOWNHOMES IF THEY'RE DONE WELL AND MAINTAINED. THERE IS A NICHE IN THIS COMMUNITY THAT HASN'T BEEN FILLED AS FAR AS THAT TYPE OF HOUSING, IN MY OPINION.
AND SO I THINK THAT'S PROMISING.
I'M LOOKING FAVORABLE ON THAT IDEA BECAUSE I THINK THAT WILL ENCOURAGE THE WALKABILITY, THE BIKE ABILITY OF OLD TOWN, THE USE OF THE RESTAURANTS AND THE SHOPPING AND RETAIL AND THINGS. BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DO IT RIGHT AND THAT IT FITS.
AND ONCE SOMETHING IS ZONED, I'M AFRAID I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S NOT OUR LAST BITE OF THE APPLE AND THAT WE CAN COME BACK AND SAY THE PARKING LOOKS LIKE THAT'S NOT GOING TO WORK.
WHAT ARE OTHER OPTIONS SO THAT WE'RE NOT TAKING UP ALL THE PUBLIC PARKING AND THINGS LIKE THAT? SURE. WE CAN ASSURE YOU THAT THAT WILL NOT BE THE CASE WHERE YOU WON'T GET THIS ITEM BACK BEFORE YOU.
I WOULD. YOU KNOW, WE STAND HERE TONIGHT, YOU KNOW, AS STAFF.
THAT'S THE FIRST STEP. AND IF YOU DO, THEN, YES, I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT WITH THE NEXT TWO ENTITLEMENT STEPS, YOU WILL SEE THIS AGAIN AND HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DELIBERATE AND MAKE A DECISION ON IT. SO, TONY, BUT I WOULD WANT TO ADD TO THAT AND ALAN, YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT IF THE SITE PLANS BROUGHT BACK AND IT MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS OF OUR ZONING ORDINANCE AND THE OLD TOWN STANDARDS, THERE'S GOING TO BE LITTLE THAT THE COUNCIL WILL HAVE A WAY OF RESTRICTING THEM.
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SO TOMMY IS CORRECT, BUT RECOGNIZE THAT THE CODE HAS SOME VERY REALISTIC STANDARDS OF WHAT WOULD HAVE TO BE DEVELOPED.FOR INSTANCE, OFF STREET PARKING WILL BE REQUIRED.
THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN CAN DUCK.
IT'LL BE APPLIED AT THAT POINT.
SO I WATCHED THE P AND Z MEETING ABOUT THIS.
THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION AND THE MAJORITY OF IT WAS AGAINST THIS.
AND THEN I WAS SHOCKED TO SEE SOME OF THE PEOPLE COMPLETELY TALKING AGAINST IT, TO VOTE FOR IT.
I BELIEVE THAT I AM JUST AS PROTECTIVE OF THIS OLD TOWN AREA, AND I THINK THAT THIS WOULD BE A MASSIVE DISSERVICE TO OUR OLD TOWN AREA AND TO THE RESIDENTS AROUND THAT AREA.
THE SCHOOL BEING ACROSS THE STREET.
I AM NOT FOR TOWNHOMES IN THIS LOCATION.
AND LET'S JUST REFERENCE THERE'S SEVERAL PARTS OF OUR TOWN RIGHT NOW THAT HAVE WHAT ARE CONSIDERED TOWNHOMES THAT DO NOT LIVE UP TO THE STANDARDS OF OUR CITY. AND THAT IS A MAIN THOROUGHFARE.
I APPRECIATE THE APPLICANT AND WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO, BUT PUTTING A TWO STORY BUILDING RIGHT THERE, IT'S JUST IT'S NOT A GOOD IDEA. THE PARKING AND THE FACT WE'VE HAD THIS CHALLENGE BEFORE, AND WE ALL NEED TO BE VERY CONSCIOUS OF THIS, THOSE WHO ARE SEASONED ACTUALLY KNOW IT.
THAT DOES NOT REFER TO ME, BY THE WAY, THOSE SEASONED.
THAT'S IT. AND SO WITHOUT EVEN HEARING FROM THE CITIZENS, WHICH I DID WATCH THE P AND Z, IT JUST TO ME, THIS IS NOT WHAT WE WANT.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS JUST AN OVERALL GUIDE.
IT IS REALLY OUR JOB AS THE COUNCIL TO INTERPRET AT THE TIME THAT WE'RE ADDRESSING SOMETHING.
IS THIS THE RIGHT THING FOR THIS PART OF OUR TOWN? AND WE HAVE DREAMS OF MAKING THIS SOME WALKABLE CITY, BUT THAT THAT'S NOT WHAT I BELIEVE THE RESIDENTS ACTUALLY WANT.
AND I DON'T THINK IT'S POSSIBLE TO HAPPEN.
IF I'M A MAYOR IN COUNCIL, MIGHT WE OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT? AND THEN I CAN RECEIVE YOUR FEEDBACK REGARDING THE ITEM ONCE YOU HEAR THEIR TESTIMONY, IF THAT'S THAT'S OKAY.
THE PUBLIC HEARING IS ALREADY OPEN.
SO IT'S JUST A MATTER OF ME CALLING FORWARD.
OKAY. THANK YOU. WE DO HAVE IT'S UP TO THE MAYOR.
[INAUDIBLE] SIR? ONE MORE QUESTION. THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH, ACROSS BUFORD AND TO THE WEST BEHIND THIS PROPERTY ARE CENTRAL COMMERCIAL ZONING. DO YOU KNOW OFFHAND WHAT USES ARE PERMITTED BY RIGHT IN CENTRAL COMMERCIAL IS THAT GENERALLY ANY RETAIL COMMERCIAL USE, IT'S THE MAJORITY OF THEM. YES, SIR.
YOU'VE GOT SOME CONSTRAINTS BECAUSE IT IS CENTRAL VERSUS YES.
I CAN RATTLE THOSE OFF FOR YOU.
IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS? I MEAN, HE IS ANSWERING MY QUESTION AT THE MOMENT, I THINK YOU CAN START RATTLING OK.
SO YOUR CENTRAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT GIVE MY PHONE A CHANCE HERE.
SO YOUR USES THAT YOUR PRIMARY USES ARE ALLOWED ANTIQUE SHOP ART SUPPLY STORES.
YOU HAVE YOUR GALLERIES AND MUSEUMS, BAKERIES, RETAIL CONFECTIONERIES, UPHOLSTERY SHOPS, CLEANING SHOP, PICK UP COLLEGES, UNIVERSITIES, COMMUNITY CENTERS, CONTRACTORS FOR ELECTRICAL PLUMBING, NEW OUTSIDE STORAGE CUSTOMER, PERSONAL SERVICE, SHOP DEPARTMENT STORES, FLORIST SHOP, FOOD, BEVERAGE, JUST TO NAME A FEW.
SO IT'S ALPHABETICAL LIST. WE'VE GOT A ROBUST LIST OF.
AND IF I RECALL CORRECTLY, CENTRAL COMMERCIAL ZONING DOES NOT REQUIRE ONSITE PARKING.
IS THAT CORRECT OR AM I BLENDING THAT WITH SOME OTHER ZONING CATEGORY, YOUR PARKING? SO WE BASICALLY ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH SECTION 134 VEHICLE PARKING REGULATIONS THAT CAN GET THERE.
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REAL QUICK FOR YOU, I KNOW THAT OUR CORE OLD TIME BUSINESSES HERE DON'T HAVE TO PROVIDE OFF STREET PARKING.DOES YOUR DEVELOPER WANT TO COME UP AND SPEAK TO US HERE IN A MINUTE? MAYOR, I HAVE CITIZENS ALSO THAT WANTED TO SPEAK ON THIS.
AND YOU'RE RIGHT, THERE IS AN EXCEPTION FOR THE CENTRAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.
IT DOESN'T MATTER TO ME. LET'S GET THIS GONE.
I'M SORRY, TONY. I DIDN'T HEAR.
PARKING EXCEPTION FOR THE CENTRAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.
THEY DON'T HAVE TO THEY DON'T HAVE TO PROVIDE.
LET'S HEAR FROM THE CITIZENS FIRST.
THANK YOU, MAYOR. I HAVE A CARD FROM RICHARD HARRISON.
IF YOU WOULD JUST COME TO THIS PODIUM RIGHT HERE.
YES, SIR. AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.
I'M RICHARD HARRISON, AND I DON'T LIVE AT THIS SITE.
I LIVE IN BURLESON OUT TO THE EAST.
IN 2017, AS A RENTAL PROPERTY, WE SPENT ABOUT SIX MONTHS SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY AND A LOT OF TIME FIXING IT UP, AND WE HAD IT RENTED EVER SINCE.
I HAVE A SINGLE MAN LIVING THERE NOW.
HE WORKS. HE LEAVES AND GOES ON TO WORK ABOUT 4:30 IN THE MORNING AND COMES HOME.
AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT TIME IT GOES TO BE ON, BUT IT PROBABLY PRETTY EARLY.
AND WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT TYPE OF PEOPLE WILL BE MOVING INTO A FACILITY LIKE THIS.
MAKING A LOT OF NOISE, A LOT OF CARS, AS YOU SAW FROM THE PLANS UP THERE.
THEY'RE PLANNING ON AT LEAST EIGHT VEHICLES, A PARK BEHIND THIS FACILITY.
AND SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL HAVE SEEN MY COMMENTS THAT I HAD HERE, IF YOU READ THOSE, BUT IF I COULD HIT A FEW OF THEM, THE FIRST ONE WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THE NUMBER OF CARS.
WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT TRAFFIC CONGESTION WITH THE SCHOOL.
IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN ON THERE IN THE MORNING OR THE AFTERNOON, WAS SCHOOL JUST STARTING OR LETTING OUT? YOU CAN'T PARK ANYWHERE.
WE FIGURED THAT PROBABLY A DUMPSTER WILL BE REQUIRED.
AND IF YOU ALL EVER SEEN WHERE A DUMPSTER IS, IT'S USUALLY A MESS.
AND THERE WILL PROBABLY BE TRASH FLYING ALL OVER THE PLACE.
OUR BIGGEST CONCERN IS, LIKE I SAY, THE PEOPLE THAT WILL BE LIVING THERE IF YOU GO AROUND TOWN AND LOOK AT DUPLEXES OR FOUR PLEX'S AND SEE THE THE WAY PEOPLE DO NOT TAKE CARE OF THEIR PROPERTY, IT'S AMAZING.
YOU JUST TAKE ONE LOOK AND YOU'LL SEE WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
WE FEEL LIKE THAT IF THIS IS APPROVED, THERE MIGHT BE MORE TAX MONEY FOR THE CITY, THAT'S FOR SURE.
BUT IF YOU WERE GOING TO BUY A HOME, IF SOMEONE WANTS TO COME IN AND BUY OUR HOME, WHICH IS RIGHT NEXT DOOR AND YOU SEE A FOUR PLEX, TWO STORY FOUR PLEX, WOULD YOU WANT TO BUY THAT PROPERTY? YOU KNOW, I WOULDN'T WANT TO LIVE THERE.
AND I DON'T BELIEVE THAT MY RENTER WOULD WANT TO LIVE THERE.
SO IT'S JUST IT'S A BIG CONCERN, BUT WE'RE VERY MUCH AGAINST IT.
AND I'VE TALKED TO SOME OF THE OTHER PEOPLE AROUND THAT AREA.
EVERYTHING TO THE SOUTH OF THAT IS RESIDENTIAL.
SO ANYWAY, THAT'S OUR CONCERN.
IF ANYBODY HAD ANY QUESTION FOR ME.
DID YOU BUY THAT PROPERTY WHEN THE DAYCARE WAS STILL THERE? NO, IT WAS ALREADY REMOVED AT THAT TIME.
SO WE BOUGHT IT ON THE COURTHOUSE STEPS, I WILL ADMIT.
I DON'T THINK ANYBODY SAW WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE BEFORE WE BOUGHT IT.
I DID, YEAH. MY KIDS GO TO SCHOOL THERE.
SO I PARKED IN YOUR SIDE LOT THE OTHER DAY.
I HOPE THAT DIDN'T DISTURB YOUR CURRENT RESIDENT, BUT PARKING IS LIMITED THERE.
I JUST APPRECIATE YOU SHARING YOUR PERSPECTIVE.
I UNDERSTAND BEING A LANDOWNER IN IT AND OWNING A HOME THAT YOU RENT THERE IS IMPORTANT TO YOU.
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RIGHT. I APPRECIATE YOU SHARING, SIR, BUT ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF OUR PROPERTY THERE ON.YES, THERE ARE PEOPLE PARKING OUR YARD ALL THE TIME.
THEY'RE CONSTANTLY IN OUR YARD.
THE PEOPLE CROSS FROM AND HAVE ABOUT FOUR SIGNS.
YEAH, WE HAVEN'T PUT UP THE SIGNS BECAUSE I HATE TO LIMIT THE NUMBER OF PARKING.
IT'S NOT REALLY HURTING A LOT.
ANYWAY, WE'D APPRECIATE YOUR CONCERN.
OUR CONCERN IS HOPEFULLY SOME OF YOUR CONCERNS.
THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS BRETT DAVENPORT.
WE FILLED, WE GOT RID OF THE HASSLE, TRIED TO HELP OUT OLD TOWN THE PARKING LOT THATS THERE WAS BUILT BY BCB DAYCARE AND DONATED TO THE CITY TO ALLOW THEM TO UPKEEP THE SPOTS.
WE DON'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THAT PARKING.
IT'S BEING USED FOR MULTIPLE OCCASIONS BY THE CHURCH, BY THE SCHOOL, WHEN THE CITY HOUSES, THERE HAS CONVENTIONS AND STUFF DOWNTOWN, THE MUSIC FESTIVAL.
AS FAR AS THE PLANS AND WHAT THEY'RE GETTING READY TO DO, I HAVE NO CONTROL OVER THAT.
WE JUST HAVE IT UP FOR SALE AND WE'RE I WAS BORN HERE.
GREW UP HERE. I'VE LIVED HERE ALL MY LIFE.
I'VE BEEN PART OF THIS COMMUNITY ALL MY LIFE.
I HAVE A RANCH IN HILL COUNTY, TEXAS.
I ASKED THEM WHERE THEY EAT AND THEY SAY THEY GO TO BURLESON.
I'M DOWN HERE. THEY ALL COME UP HERE TO EAT.
THERE'S SOME GOOD RESTAURANTS IN DOWNTOWN.
WE REALLY ENJOY IT AND IT'S BEEN DONE.
Y'ALL HAVE DONE A WONDERFUL JOB WITH IT.
THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE MUCH TRAFFIC ON THAT ROAD.
THE CHURCH PUTS MORE TRAFFIC ON THAT ROAD THAN THAT WILL DUMPSTER CONCERNED.
I WOULD THINK CITY SERVICES MIGHT COVER THAT.
I'M NOT SURE I HAVEN'T CHECKED IN ON IT.
SEVERAL HOUSES IN THAT AREA ARE TWO STOREY, ALL IN COMMERCIAL ZONING, BUT THEY ARE HOUSES THAT ARE RESIDENTS IN THOSE HOUSES. AND AS YOU CAN SEE, EVERYTHING ADJOINING IT IS BASICALLY COMMERCIAL, EXCEPT FOR THE ONE THAT JUST SOUTH OF US, WHICH IS THE HOUSE, WHICH IS AN INVESTMENT PIECE OF PROPERTY INCOME PRODUCING SO THE SINGLE FAMILY, BUT IT'S STILL INCOME PRODUCING.
YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? I MEAN, THAT'S BASICALLY IT.
HOW MANY OTHER VACANT LOTS ARE THERE ON DOBSON.
IS THIS THE LAST VACANT LOTS ON DOBSON? ON DOBSON IS PROBABLY THE LAST INSIDE THE OVERLAY, LET'S PUT IT THAT WAY.
THERE'S ONE BEHIND US IN THE COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.
I THINK IT'S A 10,000 SQUARE FOOT LOT IN BETWEEN THE HAIRDRESSER AND THE OTHER LITTLE HOUSES THERE.
YEAH. DO YOU I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH YOU KNOW ABOUT THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY, BUT DO YOU THINK IT'S FEASIBLE THAT THERE COULD BE THE REAR ENTRY IDEA? ME AND MY PARTNER ACTUALLY HAD COME UP WITH IDEAS AND TALK WITH PLANNING AND ZONING ON THIS, ABOUT TRYING TO GET CHANGE OF USE AND DO FIVE TOWNHOMES OR NOT TOWNHOMES, BUT LOFT APARTMENTS AND COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES DOWN BELOW.
ICE CREAM SHOP. COFFEE SHOP, SANDWICH SHOP.
BENEFIT THE SCHOOL IS WHAT WE WERE THINKING.
YEAH. AND IT WAS GOING TO HAVE TO BE REAR ENTRY PARKING SO.
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AND TRY TO KEEP IT WITH THE OLD TOWN OVERLAY AND FEEL AND BEING THAT IT IS WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE OF ALL THE RESTAURANTS AND EVERYTHING.WE EVEN TALKED ABOUT AIRBNB AND VBRO.
YOU KNOW THERE'S NONE OF THAT IN DOWNTOWN.
YOU CAN'T GO TO DOWNTOWN AND THEN HAVE A PLACE TO WALK TO AND STAY.
THERE'S NOTHING. SO THERE'S A CALL FOR IT.
STUDENTS AT HILL COLLEGE, THEY DON'T REALLY HAVE A PLACE TO RENT AND STAY.
AND IF THEY DO, IT'S A HOUSE AND IT'S GOING TO BE REALLY EXPENSIVE AND BURLESON RIGHT THERE.
NEXT SPEAKER IS VICKI SORENSEN.
HI. MY NAME IS VICKI SORENSEN.
I LIVE AT 368 SOUTH DOBSON STREET.
I LOVE MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND I'VE LIVED THERE THIS OCTOBER FOR 50 YEARS.
SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS OF THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE BEING PROTECTIVE OF OLD TOWN AND PARTICULARLY THE STREET. I GET NOTICES FROM THE CITY WHEN THERE IS A ZONING CHANGE AND SO I ALWAYS LOOK TO SEE IF ANYTHING'S GOING ON SOUTH DOBSON AND WHEN I SAW THAT THERE WOULD BE A CHANGE, PERHAPS FROM SINGLE FAMILY TO SFR, I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANT.
SO I JUST LOOKED UP A DEFINITION AND IT LOOKED TO ME LIKE IT WAS A DUPLEX, SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED TWO RESIDENCES, SHARING A WALL.
SO I CAME TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING ABOUT THIS COUPLE SEVERAL WEEKS AGO, AND WHEN I LEARNED THAT THIS WAS GOING TO BE A QUADRUPLE X, I BECAME QUITE CONCERNED BECAUSE I DIDN'T THINK THAT A QUADRUPLE X WOULD FIT IN HERE ON POINT THREE ACRES AND TWO STORIES.
WHEN I SAY THAT, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S ZERO LOT THAT'LL COME RIGHT UP TO THE SIDEWALK.
IS THAT CORRECT? WE'RE REQUIRED TO.
WELL, SO ALONG THE ANY SIDE STREET, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A 15 FOOT SETBACK FROM THE SIDE STREET, OTHER SIDE YARDS FOR THE PROPERTIES HAVE TO BE FIVE FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE.
FROM THE FRONT IS 15 FEET FROM THE FRONT.
SO I THINK ABOUT IF THERE'S FOUR UNITS HERE, IT WOULD EASILY CONTAIN 16 PEOPLE AND EIGHT PARKING PLACES. AND I'M JUST AFRAID THAT THIS BEGINS A VERY SLIPPERY SLOPE TOWARD APARTMENTS.
I DON'T THINK IT'S VERY FAR FROM BEING AN APARTMENT RIGHT NOW THE WAY IT IS.
I'VE SEEN SOME REALLY NICE DUPLEXES IN AREAS CLOSE TO ME OFF OF WARREN STREET, CLOSE BY BAILEY LAKE.
THEY'RE SET BACK. THEY HAVE A YARD IN FRONT.
SO IF THIS WERE GOING TO BE A DUPLEX, I WOULDN'T EVEN BE SPEAKING.
BUT WHEN I FOUND OUT IT WAS GOING TO BE A TWO STORY QUAD PLEX, IT REALLY CONCERNED ME.
AND I THINK OLD TOWN NEEDS TO BE PROTECTED.
AND I THINK SOUTH DOBSON NEEDS TO BE PROTECTED.
THANKS. NEXT SPEAKER IS JESSICA NELSON.
AND I DO JUST WANT TO START OFF BY GIVING YOU A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND.
EACH OF THESE HOMES WILL BE INDIVIDUALLY PLATTED, WHICH MEANS EACH HOME WILL BE ON ITS OWN LOT, SO IT'LL BE DIVIDED INTO FOUR LOTS. THAT MEANS YOU'VE GOT A SINGLE FAMILY PROPERTY FOR EACH OF THESE FOUR HOMES, MEANING THAT WE CAN SELL EACH OF THESE HOMES INSTEAD OF IT BEING FULL OF RENTERS.
AND I UNDERSTAND CONCERNS WITH KIND OF A RENTER'S OWNERSHIP OR LACK THEREOF, BUT WITH THESE BEING INDIVIDUALLY PLATTED IN A FOUR LOTS THAT KIND OF TAKES CARE OF THAT AND BEING ABLE TO ACTUALLY SELL THESE OFF AS INDIVIDUAL HOMES.
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IT'S A 2700 SQUARE FOOT HOME THAT INCLUDES THE TWO CAR GARAGE WE ARE REQUIRED TO MAINTAIN, NOT TO MAINTAIN, BUT WE CANNOT DISTURB THE PARKING SPACES ON THE SOUTH DOBSON SIDE.SO WE'RE BASICALLY REQUIRED TO HAVE REAR ENTRY GARAGES, WHICH I THINK ACTUALLY DOES A GREAT JOB IN KEEPING A REALLY NICE LOOKING ESTHETIC FOR YOUR FRONT YARDS AND THAT MAIN THOROUGHFARE ON DOBSON.
BUT THE OTHER GREAT PART TO THAT IS IT IS ACTUALLY GOING TO DECREASE A LOT OF THAT TRAFFIC ON DOBSON BECAUSE YOU'RE ENTERING OFF OF BUFORD, WHICH YOU CAN GET TO FROM COMMERCE, WHICH I IMAGINE THESE HOMEOWNERS WOULD RATHER DO THAN DEAL WITH THE TRAFFIC IN FRONT OF THE SCHOOL.
SO HOPEFULLY THAT TAKES CARE OF SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS.
THESE WOULD NOT HAVE DUMPSTERS.
IT'S NOT AN APARTMENT COMPLEX OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE.
SO THESE WOULD BE TREATED, AGAIN, JUST LIKE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES WHERE THEY HAVE THEIR OWN TRASH.
THEY TAKE IT TO THE ALLEY OR TO THE FRONT.
HOWEVER, TRASH SERVICE IS HANDLED HERE FOR THE CITY, BUT THERE WOULD BE NO DUMPSTERS.
I THINK THERE IS CONCERN ABOUT THIS BEING CONSIDERED A QUAD PLEX, BUT THAT'S NOT THE CASE.
PAUL JENKINS IS THE DEVELOPER AND HE'LL SPEAK NEXT.
BUT HE CAN SPEAK A LITTLE BIT MORE TO THE FACT THAT IT'S NOT A GOOD FINANCIAL OPTION TO HAVE FOUR ATTACHED HOMES VERSUS HAVING SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED HOMES AS A PROPERTY TO SELL.
SO THAT KIND OF TAKES CARE OF THE FEAR OF THIS TURNING INTO A QUAD PLEX OR A MINIATURE APARTMENT COMPLEX OR ANYTHING OF THAT SORT. WE WOULD HAVE AN ALLEY IN THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY THAT WOULD BE KIND OF HALF OUR PROPERTY OWNER SIDE.
AND THEN I THINK IT'S THEN ALSO DIVIDED TO THE PROPERTY AND TO THE WEST OF US, BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO CUT ANY FURTHER DOWN INTO DOBSON. IT ACTUALLY ENDS AT THAT LAST UNITS PROPERTY LINE.
AND JUST A REMINDER THAT THE PROJECT WILL AGAIN, LIKE HE SAID, IT WILL GO THROUGH A VERY SCRUPULOUS OLD TOWN DESIGN REVIEW BOARD WHERE THAT DICTATES WHAT TYPE OF MATERIALS WE'RE ABLE TO USE, EVEN THE SIZE AND THE STYLE OF WINDOWS AND DOORS ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS, WHAT YOUR PORCH RAILING LOOKS LIKE, WHAT BALLOTS LOOK LIKE, OR CORNICES OR GABLES. ALL THOSE TYPES OF THINGS ARE VERY WELL SPELLED OUT IN THE OLD TOWN DESIGN REVIEW GUIDELINES IN MAKING SURE THAT WE MEET. I THINK THERE WAS SEVEN DIFFERENT STYLES, SO WE CHOSE THE RURAL FARMHOUSE STYLE, BUT THERE'S QUEEN ANNE, THERE'S VICTORIAN, THERE'S CRAFTSMAN, BUT AGAIN, JUST WANTING TO PROTECT AND AND I WOULD SAY THAT WE WOULD DO THIS AS ARCHITECTS ANYWAYS. WE WANT TO BLEND IN WITH OUR COMMUNITY AND NOT STAND OUT.
WE WANT TO ENHANCE OUR SURROUNDINGS AND NOT BRING ATTENTION TO OURSELVES.
BUT YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO TRUST ME ON THAT.
I THINK THAT TAKES CARE OF MOST OF IT.
I THINK THE OTHER GENTLEMAN DID A GREAT.
THIS WOULD BE A LOWER DENSITY USE THAN THAT, BUT STILL BRINGING A FEW MORE TAX PAYERS TO HELP SUPPORT THOSE SMALL BUSINESSES WHICH MAKE SMALL TOWNS LIKE BURLESON FUN AND EXCITING.
AND LET ME KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
ARE Y'ALL LOOKING TO SELL OR RENT? WHAT'S THE START UP? I WILL HAVE TO LET PAUL SPEAK THAT I'LL HOLD THAT FOR HIM.
SO IF YOU SALE OR IS THAT GOING TO BE A HOA IN THERE? I MEAN, WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE COMMON ROOFS, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE EXTERIOR.
I MEAN, HOW'S THAT GOING TO BE MAINTAINED IF YOU SELL INDIVIDUALLY?
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WE HAVE SEEN THAT WORK OUT IN THE PAST WHERE YOU BUILD AN HOA TO MAKE SURE THAT THE THE ROOFS STAY THE SAME COLOR. THE THE THE FRONTS ARE MAINTAINED IN A SIMILAR FASHION.YOU DON'T WANT HALF OF YOUR HOUSE, ONE COLOR AND HALF A DIFFERENT COLOR.
AND THAT CAN ALL BE WRITTEN INTO AN HOA AS WELL.
SO THIS IS A IT'S LIKE A CONDOMINIUM ASSOCIATION, AND YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
YOU KNOW, IT WOULDN'T BE LIKE THAT.
I KNOW THERE ARE DIFFERENCES WHERE THE CONDOMINIUM CAN GET A LITTLE TRICKY.
AND THERE'S AT LEAST FROM MY EXPERIENCE, WE TRY TO PUSH OUR CHOICE WORDS.
I'M SORRY, BUT I GUESS THE BOTTOM LINE IS I DON'T NEED FOUR UNITS UP THERE.
I APPRECIATE THEM ALL BEING INDIVIDUALLY OWNED.
BUT COMMON GROUND IS ON THE EXTERIOR AND EVERYBODY GET INTO IT, KNOCK DOWN, DRAG OUT.
THEN THE CITY'S GOT AN EYESORE.
SO AND WE'VE BEEN PART OF THAT IN A LAKE PROPERTY.
I LIKE THE IDEA AND I LIKE THE DESIGN.
I REALLY DO. I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT OUR RESIDENTS IN THAT AREA, AND I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT CHANGING THE ZONE BECAUSE I DON'T WANT THIS TO GO NUTS ON US AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY CONTROL. RIGHT.
I MEAN, I WOULD KIND OF SEE THAT AS THE SAME ISSUE THAT YOU COULD HAVE WITH ANY SINGLE FAMILY HOME.
RIGHT. THEY CAN CHOOSE TO MOW THEIR YARD OR THEY CAN CHOOSE NOT TO.
BUT THEY'VE GOT A HORSE IN THE RACE ON THAT.
IF THEY DON'T TAKE CARE OF IT BECAUSE THEIR PROPERTY IS NOT GOING TO BE WORTH ANYTHING.
RIGHT. BUT THAT'S WHY THESE ARE SO VALUABLE IS BECAUSE THEY ARE INDIVIDUALLY PLATTED, WHICH MEANS YOU OWN HALF OF THAT BUILDING AND THE ENTIRE PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT THAT IS ON.
DOES EACH UNIT HAVE THEIR OWN UTILITIES? YES, THEY'LL HAVE THEIR OWN METER AND THEIR OWN.
YES, THEY HAVE THEIR OWN BACKYARD.
THEY HAVE THEIR OWN FRONT ENTRY.
THE ONLY THING THAT THEY SHARE IS A SINGLE COMMON WALL.
SO ESSENTIALLY THESE ARE TOWNHOMES.
BASICALLY, IT WOULD BE MORE ALONG THE LINES.
SO I THINK WHAT YOU STATED THAT THE FOR INDIVIDUAL LOTS IS WHAT MAKES THIS SO GOOD.
WHAT'S TO KEEP ONE COMPANY OR ONE INDIVIDUAL FROM BUYING ALL FOUR UNITS AND THEN JUST RENTING THEM? YOU HAVE NO GUARANTEE THESE WILL STAY HOMES THAT ARE OWNED JUST LIKE WE.
I MEAN, WE HAVE THIS PROBLEM ACROSS MOST CITIES RIGHT NOW, QUITE FRANKLY.
RIGHT. THERE'S A LOT OF RENTALS.
RIGHT. AND THERE'S SUCH AN ISSUE WITH THESE TYPES OF HOMES AND THEIR UPKEEP THAT IF THIS IS SOLD TO ANY ONE PERSON WHO DECIDES, THEN TO RENT THEM, THERE'S NO CONSISTENT UPKEEP.
THERE'S THAT IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ON IRENE ON SUMMER CREST.
THAT'S WHAT THAT'S THE CHALLENGE WITH THESE AND THIS IS ACROSS FROM A VERY NICE SCHOOL, DOWN FROM, I BELIEVE, VERY LOVELY HOMES THAT ARE IN OUR OLD TOWN AREA.
I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT WE'VE ALREADY GOT ONE GENTLEMAN HERE WITH A RENT HOUSE.
I MEAN, WE'VE ALREADY GOT RENT PROPERTIES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
I MEAN, I'M IN A KIND OF A PICKLE ON THIS ALSO.
WELL, I'LL TELL YOU WHAT WILL HAPPEN.
FIRST OF ALL, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
WE DO HAVE A LOT OF RENT HOUSES EVERYWHERE, AND NOT ALL RENT HOUSE OWNERS ARE THE SAME.
SOME OF THEM ARE VERY CONSCIENTIOUS AND DO A VERY GOOD JOB WITH UPKEEP.
THE CHALLENGE IS THE ATTACHED HOUSES.
IT MIGHT BE ON INDIVIDUAL PROPERTIES, BUT THERE'S STILL ATTACHED HOMES.
AND YOU HAVE REALLY ACTUALLY THE BEST POINT, MAYOR, ABOUT HOW ARE YOU GOING TO MAINTAIN THESE ONE NEIGHBOR TO THE NEXT AND OUR OLD TOWN AREA? I THINK FOR ME, IT REALLY BOILS DOWN TO THE QUALITY OF CONSTRUCTION AND THE PRICE POINT.
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HOW MUCH ARE THEY FINALLY RENTING THEM FOR? YOU KNOW, THE I THINK THE IF THE RENTS.RIGHT, IT CAN DEFINITELY KEEP OUT THE UNDESIRABLE ELEMENTS.
WHAT I BELIEVE I DO HAVE ONE MORE SPEAKER THAT MAY BE ABLE TO ADDRESS SOME OF THAT, PAUL JENKINS.
THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.
I CURRENTLY HAVE THE PROPERTY, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY UNDER CONTRACT WITH MY PARTNER, BLAINE CRUZ.
HE'S SEATED IN THE BACK AS WELL.
THE COMPANY THAT WE HAVE TOGETHER IS CALLED RHYTHM VENTURES.
WE'RE A REAL ESTATE INVESTMENT COMPANY, SO WE ARE PARTNERING ON THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT.
I HAVE 25 YEARS IN THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY, MUCH OF IT BUILDING HIGH END HOMES.
I USED TO WORK FOR A BUILDER IN FORT WORTH.
HE BUILDS MULTIMILLION DOLLAR HOMES, AND I WAS HIS RIGHT HAND MAN FOR ABOUT TEN YEARS.
SO I HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE IN HIGH END RESIDENTIAL CONSTRUCTION.
SO THE CONCERNS ABOUT WHAT TYPE OF PROPERTY THIS WILL BE, THIS THE SALE OF THESE INDIVIDUAL UNITS WILL ACTUALLY REACH TOP OF MARKET VALUE. AND IF THEY SHOULD BECOME RENTAL PROPERTIES, THEY WILL RENT FOR TOP OF MARKET VALUE.
SO THE TYPE OF TENANTS OR OWNERS OF THIS PARTICULAR OF THESE UNITS WILL BE THE ONES THAT CAN AFFORD THE MOST MOST EXPENSIVE RENTAL OR PURCHASE OF $1 PER SQUARE FOOT.
THE GUIDELINES OF OLD TOWN WILL ACTUALLY DRY, YOU KNOW, WHEN I SAY FORCE, BUT BECAUSE OF THE ARCHITECTURAL DETAILS THAT ARE IN THE CODE WILL ACTUALLY HELP DRIVE THOSE COSTS UP BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE EXTERIOR HAS TO BE A CERTAIN CALIBER OF MASONRY.
AND SO WE'LL BE ESSENTIALLY BUILDING VERY HIGH END PRODUCT HERE.
I DO HAVE EXPERIENCE BUILDING IN FORT WORTH IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.
I'VE BUILT TWO BRAND NEW SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND HAVE GONE THROUGH HISTORIC GUIDELINES AS WELL.
AND THESE WERE HOMES THAT SOLD TOP OF MARKET AS WELL.
I THINK THIS PROJECT WILL COMPLEMENT OLD TOWN.
WE WANT THE HOMES TO LOOK LIKE THEY'VE ALWAYS BEEN HERE.
THAT'S WHY I HIRED PRACTICE ARCHITECTURE, BECAUSE THEY'RE VERY TALENTED AND WHAT THEY DO.
THESE RENDERINGS ARE I THINK THEY'VE DONE A GREAT JOB.
WHAT IS THE NEXT STEP, MR. MCELWAIN? LIKE IF IT GOT APPROVED TONIGHT, DOES IT GO TO OLD TOWN STANDARDS FIRST, OR DOES IT GO TO LIKE, WHAT'S ITS NEXT STEP? IT WOULD GO TO THE OLD TOWN STANDARDS BOARD, THEN FROM THERE TO PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
SO YOU GET A TWO PRONGED RECOMMENDATION.
SO AT OLD TOWN IS WHEN THEY'RE GOING TO OLD TOWN DESIGN STANDARDS IS WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO DETERMINE WHAT TYPES OF SIDING AND THINGS THAT THEY CAN USE.
I GUESS WHAT AM I TRYING TO SAY IS THAT OUR OLD TOWN OVERLAY ENABLES US TO BE MORE RESTRICTIVE ABOUT THE TYPE OF BUILDING MATERIALS AND THINGS THAT WE CAN USE ON THINGS COMING IN THERE.
YES. WHAT ARE OUR OPTIONS HERE? WE CAN PASS SFA.
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FURTHER DOWN THE LINE TO CONFIRM YOU CAN DO REAR ENTRY, YOU CAN HAVE A BACKYARD, ALL OF THESE THINGS THAT SO MUCH OF THIS IS STILL BEING HASHED OUT.IS IT POSSIBLE TO CONTINUE THIS AND THEN COME BACK WHENEVER WE HAVE MORE DETAILS, CONFIRMED DETAILS? IT'S POSSIBLE, YES.
I MEAN, THE COUNCIL CAN POSTPONE ACTION ON THIS ITEM AND THEN ALLOW A CATCH UP POSTURE WHERE THE NEXT ENTITLEMENT STEPS CATCH UP WITH RECONSIDERATION OF THE ZONING.
SO YOU WOULD HAVE BASICALLY A THREE ITEM DECISION FOR THIS PROJECT, THAT BEING THE ZONING, THE SITE PLAN AND THE RECOMMENDATION FOR THE OLD TOWN STANDARDS.
I THINK THAT WITH THE AMOUNT OF EFFORT AND WORK THAT WOULD HAVE TO GO INTO THE OLD TOWN DESIGN STANDARDS, I CAN SENSE SOME HESITANCY ON AN APPLICANT WANTING TO MOVE FORWARD WITHOUT HAVING SOME ASSURANCE THAT THE ZONING WOULD BE APPROVED.
OKAY. JUST KIND OF WONDERING WHAT OUR OPTIONS ARE.
THE SITE PLAN THAT YOU SEE THERE.
IT WOULD BE VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT IS PRESENTED NOW.
WE HAVE A GOOD SETBACK FROM THE SIDEWALK, FROM THE STREET ITSELF.
THESE ARE PUSHED BACK RELATIVELY FAR.
SO I PERSONALLY THINK THAT WE'RE REPRESENTING THIS PROJECT THE BEST WE CAN AT THIS POINT.
THE PROBLEM WITH A POTENTIAL DELAY IS THAT WE HAVEN'T PURCHASED THE PROPERTY YET.
WE'VE ALREADY WE'VE ALREADY SPENT RESOURCES WITH PROFESSIONALS.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE'VE KIND OF I FEEL LIKE WE'VE PRESENTED A GOOD BIT OF INFORMATION FOR THE COUNCIL TO MAKE A VOTE, BUT THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION.
I'M ACTUALLY LEANING MORE TOWARDS THE PROJECT, BUT THE PROPERTY VALUES OF THIS IS GOING TO RUN EVERYBODY ELSE'S PROPERTY VALUES UP, OR IS THIS GOING TO BE IN A DIFFERENT CLASSIFICATION? IF YOU HAVE A SINGLE FAMILY, WHAT'S THEIR COMP? HOW DOES THAT AFFECT THE COMPS OF THE HOMES IN THE AREA? DO WE KNOW DOES ANYBODY CAN ANYBODY HELP ME ON THAT? YOU UNDERSTAND? BECAUSE THIS IS NOT A A SINGLE FAMILY.
SO THIS COULD THIS WOULD BE CONSIDERED DIFFERENT THAN A SINGLE FAMILY, WOULDN'T IT? THE PROVISIONS IN THE TEXAS TAX CODE PROVIDE THAT THE CHIEF APPRAISER FOR EACH TAXING DISTRICT, COUNTY LEVEL IS REQUIRED TO DO A FAIR MARKET VALUE APPRAISAL OF HOMES AND ESTABLISH THE VALUE THERE.
WHEN THE APPRAISER LOOKS AT THE PROPERTY, THEY COMPARE IT TO SIMILARLY SITUATED COMPARABLE PROPERTIES, AND A TWO STORY TOWNHOME WOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED EQUIVALENT TO THE CONVENTIONAL WOODEN, SINGLE STORY HOMES THAT ARE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD NOW IT WILL OBVIOUSLY BEGIN TO AFFECT PROPERTY VALUES BECAUSE THE LAND VALUES WILL GO UP IF THIS INCREASES THE VALUE OF THE AREA . OK WELL LAND IS GOING TO GO UP ANYWAY.
I'M LOOKING FOR A TOWNHOME, NO JOKE, BUT I JUST THINK THIS IS NOT THE AREA FOR THIS.
I THINK THAT WE ARE OPENING OURSELVES UP TO SAYING YES TO WAY MORE AFTER WE DO THIS.
AND I DO BELIEVE THAT AN OLD TOWN AREA MUST CONSIST OF SOME OF ITS OLD HOMES.
WE WILL LOSE THE OLD TOWN FEEL.
YOU CAN MAKE A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT WITH CERTAIN RESTRICTIONS.
YOU WOULD NEED TO KNOW WHAT THOSE RESTRICTIONS WERE, AND I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THE DEVELOPER WOULD BE AGREEABLE TO THAT APPROACH, BUT THAT'S ANOTHER ALTERNATIVE THAT WOULD BE AVAILABLE TO YOU. HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THAT, TAMARA?
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NO, NO. I'M COMPLETELY AGAINST THIS PROJECT.THERE'S NO AMOUNT OF CHANGING ANY OF THIS THAT COULD MAKE ME SAY IT IS OKAY TO PUT IN FOUR TOWN HOMES ACROSS FROM NOLA DONE ACADEMY IN THIS AREA THERE IS NOTHING AND I.
WHAT'S OUR CHOICES ON DEVELOPMENT AND WE GOT A VACANT LOT.
WHAT'S OUR CHOICES IF WE DON'T DO THIS? WELL? AND THAT'S GOING TO BE MY.
THAT'S NOT OUR CHOICE. THAT'S.
I MEAN. WELL THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO BRING UP.
YOU KNOW, AS IT IS, I'M LOOKING AT A PRETTY NICE LITTLE PRETTY NICE HOME OR THESE HOMES BEING PUT IN OR 2700 SQUARE FOOT CURRENTLY ZONED THE WAY IT IS. THERE'S NOTHING TO SAY.
YOU CAN'T BUILD A 800 SQUARE FOOT HOME, LITTLE SMALL HOUSE SITTING ON IT RIGHT NOW.
SO, I MEAN, THAT'S KIND OF THE QUANDARY WE'RE IN.
IT WOULD FIT THE CURRENT ZONING.
IT DOES KIND OF FIT WITH THE WALKABILITY OF THE AREA.
IF WE'RE LOOKING AT THE WALKABILITY FOR THE WHOLE TOWN.
AND YOU KNOW WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH DOWN HERE, CAN I MAKE A FEW COMMENTS, PLEASE? AND I WON'T DIRECT THEM AT YOU, TAMARA, SINCE YOU'VE ALREADY PRETTY MUCH SAID IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT ANYBODY SAYS.
WELL, ACTUALLY, SOME OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS WHEN A RESIDENT COMES TO SPEAK TO ME AND THEY LIVE IN THE HOUSE THAT'S AFFECTED BY THIS, I TEND TO GIVE THEIR ARGUMENTS MORE WEIGHT THAN WHEN THEY ACTUALLY OWN IT, BUT RENT IT TO SOMEONE ELSE.
SO I THINK MANY, IF NOT MOST OF THE PROPERTIES UP AND DOWN DOBSON ARE NOT OWNER OCCUPIED PROPERTIES.
I HAPPEN TO OWN ONE MYSELF TWO BLOCKS SOUTH OF HERE.
I RENT IT OUT. IT'S VERY WELL KEPT.
EXCUSE ME I DON'T THINK YOU CAN PREDICT WHAT KIND OF PEOPLE WILL LIVE THERE.
I THINK YOU CAN PREDICT IF IT'S A HIGH END DEVELOPMENT AND IT'S WELL RENDERED AND IT'S ATTRACTIVE, THAT IT WILL ATTRACT TENANTS WHO ARE WILLING TO PAY MARKET RENT OR BETTER TO GET IT.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT THIS PROJECT APPEARS TO ME.
IT WILL BE AS FAR AS ARGUMENTS ABOUT MORE TAX MONEY FOR THE CITY.
I'VE BEEN SITTING UP HERE FOR 15 YEARS.
I HAD NEVER MADE A ZONING DECISION BASED ON THE FINANCIAL IMPACT TO THE CITY.
SO PLEASE KEEP THOSE KINDS OF COMMENTS OUT OF THIS DISCUSSION.
WE'RE NOT DOING THIS FOR THE MONEY.
THIS IS VERY CLEARLY A TRANSITIONAL LINE BETWEEN A COMMERCIAL AREA AND A RESIDENTIAL AREA.
TYPICALLY, TRANSITIONAL ZONING CAN GO THROUGH JUST A VERY SLIGHT DEGREE, HIGHER THAN SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED OR SF SEVEN OR EVEN SF FIVE OR WHATEVER CATEGORY IT IS.
SFA IS SORT OF THE NEXT STEP DOWN FROM CENTRAL COMMERCIAL, UP FROM SINGLE FAMILY.
SO FROM THAT POINT OF VIEW, I THINK IT FITS.
I THINK IT'S A GOOD FIT FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THIS IS A PART OF TOWN THAT IS GOING TO DEVELOP MORE DENSELY.
YOU WILL PROBABLY SEE MORE PROJECTS LIKE THIS.
THE ONUS ON US IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE DONE WELL.
HE SAYS HE WILL. I'LL TAKE HIS WORD FOR IT.
WE GOT A TIE VOTE, AS MANY OF THEM VOTED IT LIKED IT AS VOTED.
WE DO NOT HAVE TO HAVE A SUPERMAJORITY.
WELL, IS THAT NOT CONSIDERED A VOTE OF DISAPPROVAL? YOU DID NOT GET A VOTE OF APPROVAL.
YOU DID NOT GET A VOTE OF DISAPPROVAL.
I KNEW THERE'S GOOD REASON WHY WE PAY A LAWYER TO COME DOWN HERE AND.
[INAUDIBLE]. NOW, WITH ALL RESPECT TO EVERYONE, I THINK SOME OF THE FEARS OF THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNERS ARE PROBABLY GROUNDLESS.
[01:15:02]
I DON'T THINK THERE WILL BE A DUMPSTER.INVOLVED IN THIS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT OUR REGULATIONS ARE ON DUMPSTERS, BUT I DON'T WANT ANYBODY WANT TO PUT ONE THERE IF YOU CAN GET TRASH SERVICE AT THE CURB, WHICH THIS WILL HAVE. I LIVE IN A SIMILAR COMMUNITY RIGHT NOW WHILE MY HOUSE WAS BEING RENOVATED.
WE'RE SERVED BY ALLEYS ON THE BACK.
THERE'S PARKING GARAGES BEHIND.
IT'S A VERY NEAT AND TIDY NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND NONE OF MY NEIGHBORS ARE THOSE PEOPLE.
ALL RIGHT. SO. AND I WOULD TAKE OFFENSE TO ANYBODY THAT CALLED THEM THAT.
I LIKE TO GIVE A LOT OF WEIGHT TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN BECAUSE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANS ARE NOT FORMULATED IN THE PRESENCE OF OBJECTING NEIGHBORS THAT MIGHT BE PUT OUT BY WHATEVER IS BEING CONSIDERED FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
SO THEREFORE, MY OPINION ON COMPREHENSIVE PLANS ARE THAT THEY ARE DONE IN MORE OF AN ATMOSPHERE OF OBJECTIVITY AND REASONABLE CONCERN FOR IMPACTS ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND SPEAKING OF IMPACTS ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WE HAVE SF SEVEN ZONING ACROSS THE STREET.
AND I DON'T THINK THERE IS ANY WAY THAT ANY FACTORY, CONCRETE PLANT OR ANYTHING COULD BE MORE IMPACTFUL ON THE COMMUNITY THAN AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AS FAR AS TRAFFIC GOES. AND IF THAT'S NOT ENOUGH FOR YOU.
YOU'VE GOT THE CHURCH, THE LIGHTHOUSE CHURCH, WHAT'S IT CALLED, THE OPEN DOOR CHURCH.
IF IT'S NOT BUSY ENOUGH ON THE WEEKDAYS FOR YOU, COME BY ON SUNDAY MORNING SOMETIME.
THERE'S NO PARKING WITHIN BLOCKS OF THAT PLACE.
SO I THINK IT'S INTERESTING BUT NOT PARTICULARLY INFORMATIVE TO QUIBBLE OVER WHAT IMPACT FOR FAMILIES LIVING IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD ON ONE LOT MIGHT HAVE ON TRAFFIC.
I THINK THAT'S NOT EVEN A CONSIDERATION.
FOR ONE THING, THEY'LL GO OUT THE BACK DOOR AND GO AWAY FROM THE SCHOOL AND AVOID AT ALL.
IF I LIVE THERE, THAT'S WHAT I DO.
BUT ANYWAY, I'M IN SUPPORT OF THIS BECAUSE I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'LL SEE MORE OF.
I THINK IT'S CONSISTENT WITH WHAT OLD TOWN WILL EVENTUALLY DEVELOP.
I THINK IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND I THINK IT'LL BE A WELL RENDERED PROJECT.
ANYBODY ELSE? I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING DAN SAID.
HE JUST SAYS IT BETTER THAN I DO.
I HAVE NO OTHER SPEAKER CARDS.
IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING? MAYOR, WOULD YOU ALLOW HIM TO COME BACK UP? SURE. SECOND TIME.
LET ME SPEAK FOR THE MAYOR. WHAT DO WE NEED? I'M SORRY. I HAD TO HAVE A SPEAKER WHO ALREADY SPOKE DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING.
IT WOULD BE UP TO THE MAYOR TO ALLOW HIM TO COME SPEAK TWICE.
I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 6:49.
EVERYBODY GOT OVER 3 MINUTES AND I DIDN'T GET 3 MINUTES.
BUT WE DID NOT TIME ANY CITIZENS TONIGHT.
WE ALLOWED ANYBODY TO SPEAK AS LONG AS THEY WANTED TO.
WE DIDN'T TIME NYONE? YEAH, WE DIDN'T TIME ANYBODY.
DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE TO SAY, SIR? LOOK MAYOR, YOU'VE CLOSED THE PUB.
YOU'VE CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING.
IF YOU WANT TO ALLOW HIM SPEAK, YOU'LL NEED TO REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND STATE THE TIME AGAIN.
I'M GOING TO REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOWS OR NOT.
EVERYBODY SEE THE COPY OF THIS SANITARY SEWER PLAN? IF YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THERE'S A SANITARY SEWER LINE AND A MANHOLE GOING RIGHT THROUGH THIS PROPERTY CITY LINE.
AND I HAVE A FEELING THAT THE CITY, THIS CITY WILL HAVE TO PAY TO MOVE THIS LINE.
SO IT'S JUST ANOTHER COST INVOLVED FOR THE CITY.
IS THERE A SETBACK ON THE SIDE? YEAH, THEY'VE GOT RULES IN PLACE FOR THAT.
AND IT WON'T. IT'LL BE BY THE RULES.
HE'S PRETTY TOUGH. OKAY, THANKS.
SO, MAYOR, NOW YOU CAN CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AGAIN.
I'M A CLOSED PUBLIC HEARING AT 6:51.
THEN IF THERE'S NO OTHER DISCUSSION, YOU CAN ASK FOR A MOTION, PLEASE.
IS THERE A MOTION TO? I MOVE TO APPROVE.
[7A.Consider approval of a minute order appointing members to all the City of Burleson boards/commissions. (Staff Presenter: Amanda Campos, City Secretary)]
[01:20:03]
I AM THE STAFF PRESENTER TONIGHT, AMANDA CAMPO, CITY SECRETARY SO IF YOU JUST GIVE ME A MOMENT.MONICA, IF YOU CAN SWITCH THAT OVER.
THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
I AM BRINGING BEFORE YOU THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS APPOINTMENTS.
FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT THIS YEAR WE DID HAVE THE POLICY THAT WAS RECENTLY REVISED.
BECAUSE SOME OF THESE ARE GOING TO BE FROM 2020, 2021, 2022 RECENT ONES.
NOW AFTER THESE APPLICANTS ARE NOW VALID FOR THREE YEARS.
SO THERE YOU CAN SEE A LIST OF ALL THE APPLICANTS THAT WERE ELIGIBLE AND INCLUDED IN THE BOOK.
AND THE ONES ON THE BOTTOM WERE EITHER INELIGIBLE BECAUSE THEY HAD MOVED OUT OF THE AREA SINCE BECAUSE THIS HAS BEEN A LITTLE BIT OF A TIME OR THEY'VE WITHDRAWN THEIR INTEREST OR WE HAD NO RESPONSES FROM THEM.
SO THE APPOINTMENTS AND COUNCIL POLICIES COMMITTEE MET ON AUGUST 30TH TO REVIEW ALL OF THESE.
AND I WILL POINT OUT THAT WE'VE THEY'RE LISTED HERE.
SO THEIR TERMS WERE CURRENTLY PASSED AND SO IT WAS TIME FOR US TO RE APPOINT THEM.
AND THEN THE NEW APPOINTMENTS ARE THE ONES THAT ARE BRAND NEW TO THESE BOARDS BECAUSE THERE WAS A VACANCY THERE, SOMEBODY WITHDREW, DROPPED OUT OR MOVED OUT OF THE AREA OR THEY TERMED OUT OF THEIR TERM, THERE.
SO I WILL MAKE A NOTE THAT THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE ON PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES DOES HAVE NO NEW APPOINTMENTS, BUT THAT'S NOT BECAUSE THERE ARE NO APPOINTMENTS THERE TO BE GIVEN OUT. THERE ARE TWO VACANCIES ON THERE.
AND SO NONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT APPLIED A QUALIFIED FOR THOSE.
HOWEVER, I WILL MAKE NOTE THAT I AM GOING TO BRING FORWARD IN NOVEMBER A REVIEW OF ALL THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AND ALL THE REQUIREMENTS AND TRY TO GET SOME UNIFICATION AND ALSO MAYBE ADD ON SOME EXTRA SPOTS ON SOME OF THESE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.
THERE IS SOME EQUALITY ON SOME OF THESE.
AND THEN ALSO THIS IS ONE OF THE ONES THAT WE WOULD REVIEW.
AND I HAVE TALKED TO THE DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY ABOUT THESE.
AND SO WE CAN MAKE SOME TWEAKS TO THIS ONE.
AND NEXT, THIS IS THE OLD TOWN DESIGN STANDARDS REVIEW.
THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS.
THE PARK BOARD. AND AGAIN THE RE APPOINTMENTS ARE PEOPLE CURRENTLY SERVING WERE ELIGIBLE FOR REAPPOINTMENT BECAUSE THEIR TERM WAS UP AND THEN THE NEW APPOINTMENTS ARE BRAND NEW APPOINTEES. SO THAT WAS ALL OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS I DO HAVE.
MONICA, COULD YOU PASS OUT? ANY QUESTIONS? I HAVE A COMMENT TO MAKE.
WHAT'S BEING HANDED OUT TO YOU RIGHT NOW? OUR PHOTOGRAPHS OF.
I WAS FOLLOWED ON I 35 IN THE NORTHBOUND BY CITIZEN BILL JANIS.
HE FOLLOWED ME WHEN I CHANGED LANES UNTIL HE LEFT THE HIGHWAY ON I 20.
[01:25:02]
PAST, HE PROCEEDED TO FOLLOW ME, TO CONTINUE TO SCARE ME, AS HE HAS DONE IN THE PAST.I SAT ON THE I SAT ON THAT COMMITTEE AND I SPOKE AGAINST MR. JANIS AND REAPPOINTED.
THEY PREVENTED A MASS CASUALTY.
NOW, CERTAINLY, RED FLAGS DON'T ALWAYS MEAN AND THEY DON'T ALWAYS RESULT IN MASS CASUALTIES.
BUT MOST MASS CASUALTIES AND ASSASSINATION ATTEMPTS OR THAT KIND OF THING DO HAVE THE RED FLAGS.
MR. GANESH HAS NUMEROUS RED FLAGS AND THAT'S THE REASON I POST THEM.
HE HAS CONTINUALLY MADE COMMENTS ON FACEBOOK THAT ARE FRIGHTENING, ALARMING SHOW, A VERY OBSESSIVE COMPULSIVE BEHAVIOR, A UNNATURAL OBSESSION WITH MYSELF AND COUNCIL.
COUNCILWOMAN PAYNE, A FIXATION, IF YOU WILL.
AND HE SHOULD NOT BE ON ANY COUNCIL.
THERE'S A LOT OF GREAT PROGRAMS OUT THERE THAT CAN PROVIDE HELP AND ANYTHING HE MAY BE DEALING WITH.
I HOPE HE GETS ANY HELP HE MIGHT MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET.
BUT PUTTING HIM ON ON A COMMITTEE, YOU KNOW, IF MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS PUT THEM ON THERE AND IF THOSE RED FLAGS TURN OUT TO BE TRUE AND WE IGNORE THEM, THEN MAY GOD HAVE MERCY ON YOUR SOULS.
I'VE KNOWN BILL JANICE FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS.
I'VE NEVER SEEN ONE THING ON FACEBOOK LIKE THIS.
I'VE NEVER HEARD OF ANYBODY SAY, GOSH, HE'S A THREAT TO THIS COMMUNITY.
AND YOU ARE RIGHT. I DON'T BELIEVE FOR ONE SECOND HE'S A THREAT TO THIS COMMUNITY.
I DON'T BELIEVE HE NEEDS HELP.
OKAY. SOME OF US MIGHT NEED IT, BUT IT'S NOT.
BILL, I AM IN FULL SUPPORT OF BILL HERE.
HERE AND FULL SUPPORT OF YOUR RELATIVE.
I GOT IT. HE IS NOT A BLOOD RELATIVE.
AND THIS IS CHARACTER ASSASSINATION IS WHAT IT IS, AND I'M TIRED OF IT.
IF I MIGHT JUST STATE, THIS IS NOT A PERSONAL CHARACTER ASSASSINATION.
THIS IS REPEAT OFFENSES FROM A MAN WHO HAS THREATENED ME.
AND I NEEDED TO SHOW YOU THE PROOF.
AND I UNDERSTAND YOUR DECISION, WHATEVER THAT MAY BE.
AMANDA, IS THIS A BLANKET VOTE TO APPROVE EVERYBODY SO WE DON'T HAVE TO WE CAN COUNCIL CAN VOTE BOARD BY BOARD, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT. HOWEVER, WE DO HAVE A SPEAKER CARD BY BILL JANICE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM BEFORE WE DO THAT.
MAY I SPEAK? MR. TAYLOR, WHAT'S THE LEGAL REQUIREMENT FOR ME TO CALL FOR A VOTE ON THIS ITEM AT THIS POINT? YOU ARE FREE TO DO THAT.
THIS IS NOT A SCHEDULED PUBLIC HEARING.
IT'S OPEN TO THE MAYOR WHETHER OR NOT WE ALLOW PUBLIC COMMENT.
I'M SORRY, WE HAVE A SPEAKER CARD ON THIS ITEM, BUT WE ARE NOT REQUIRED TO TAKE SPEAKERS UNLESS IT IS A STATUTORY PUBLIC HEARING AND IT'S UP TO THE MAYOR TO MAKE THE DECISION AS TO WHETHER HE WANTS PUBLIC COMMENT OR NOT.
SECOND. I THINK BEFORE YOU CALL THE QUESTION, THERE NEEDS TO BE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
YES. THANK YOU. I WOULD, GO AHEAD.
I WAS GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO TO APPOINT ALL OF THE APPOINTEES, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF BILL JANICE, I SECONS. CAN YOU SWITCH OVER TO THE VOTING, PLEASE? AND NOW I CALL THE QUESTION.
AMANDA, PLEASE EXPLAIN NOW WHEN WE VOTE.
[01:30:05]
SO AT THIS POINT, THERE IS A MOTION BEFORE YOU AND THERE WAS A CALL TO QUESTION ON THAT MOTION.SO THERE WAS A MOTION AND A SECOND.
AND MOTION AND BEFORE YOU IS TO APPROVE ALL OF THE APPOINTMENTS, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF BILL JANICE TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, CORRECT? COUNCIL MEMBER STANFORD.
SO IF YOU WILL REFLECT YOUR MOTION BY USING THE VOTING SYSTEM, PLEASE.
AND THEN. COUNCILMEMBER PAYNE SECONDED.
IF YOU ARE IN AGREEMENT WITH THE MOTION AS STATED, YOU VOTE IN FAVOR.
I HAVE A MOTION BY JIMMY A SECOND BY TAMARA.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ALL APPOINTMENTS.
WAIT, JUST. CAN YOU CLEAR THAT OUT, PLEASE? CLEAR OUT THE VOTE, PLEASE.
START. NEW VOTE. THERE YOU GO.
I HAVE A MOTION, BY DAN A SECOND RICK.
PLEASE VOTE. MOTION PASSES 5 TO 2. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
THAT BRINGS US TO SECTION EIGHT REPORTS AND PRESENTATIONS.
SO THAT BRINGS US TO SECTION CITY COUNCIL REQUEST FOR FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS AND REPORTS.
[9.CITY COUNCIL REQUESTS AND FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS AND REPORTS]
I'M SORRY, WOULD YOU REPEAT THAT? THAT BRINGS US TO THE SECTION OF CITY COUNCIL REQUESTS AND FUTURE ITEMS AND REPORTS.RONNIE. YOU GOT ANYTHING, DAN? TAMARA. NOBODY.
SO IN ORDER TO ADJOURN, WE NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND WITH NO VOTE TO ADJOURN.
IS THERE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? MOVE TO ADJOURN.
WAS THAT DAN? DAN AND JIMME WERE OUT OF HERE AT 7:04.
THANK YOU, MAYOR. AND.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.