[4A. 200 S Dobson (Case 22-108): Hold a public hearing and consider a zoning change request from “SF7”, Single-family dwelling district-7, to “SFA" Single-family attached dwelling district for future residential development.]

THE FIRST ONE IS 4A, AT 200 SOUTH DOBSON, CASE 22-108 TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER A ZONING CHANGE REQUEST FROM SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING DISTRICT SEVEN TO SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED DWELLING DISTRICT FOR FUTURE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS.

GOOD EVENING, FOR THE RECORD LIGHT AND PRAYER SENIOR PLANNER CITY OF BURLESON PRESENTING CASE 22-108.

SO THIS IS A ZONING CHANGE REQUEST FOR 200 SOUTH DOBSON AND THE APPLICANT IS JESSICA NELSON WITH A PRACTICE ARCHITECTURE OFFICE ON BEHALF OF PAUL JENKINS. SO THIS SHOWS TWO MAPS.

ONE IS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SHOWING THAT THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS IN OUR OLD TOWN DESIGNATION AND THE OTHER SHOWS THE CURRENT ZONING.

THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING DISTRICT SEVEN, WHICH WOULD BUY RIGHT PERMIT FOR A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE ON THE PROPERTY.

THESE ARE A COUPLE.

SO THIS IS A ZONE CHANGE.

BUT THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED SOME RENDERINGS OF KIND OF A CONCEPT.

SO WHILE IT'S NOT NECESSARILY PART OF THE MOTION TONIGHT, THIS IS KIND OF GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING.

WITH THAT BEING SAID, THE MOST THAT COULD BE PUT ON THIS LOT IF SFA WERE APPROVED IS NO MORE THAN FOUR STRUCTURES BASED OFF THE SIZE OF THE LOT.

ADDITIONALLY, ANY ZONING CHANGE APPROVAL WOULD STILL REQUIRE THE APPLICANT TO SUBMIT A SITE PLAN FOR REVIEW BY STAFF AS WELL AS OUR DOWNTOWN REVIEW COMMITTEE FOR THE STANDARDS.

THEY'D STILL HAVE TO MEET THE MASONRY STANDARDS BECAUSE THEY ARE IN OLD TOWN.

THEY'D HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THE ARCHITECTURAL STYLES OF OLD TOWN.

AND IN THAT SITE PLAN, AFTER GOING THROUGH THAT, OUR DSRC WOULD COME BEFORE P AND Z AND COUNCIL AGAIN BECAUSE IT IS ASSOCIATED WITH A ZONE CHANGE SHOULD THE ZONING BE APPROVED? SO THIS PROPERTY, IF YOU'LL NOTICE, IT'S KIND OF SURROUNDED BY A MIXTURE OF RESIDENTIAL AND SOME USES HAVE BEEN CONVERTED TO COMMERCIAL OR GENERAL RETAIL TYPE USES.

SO WE DID SEND A PUBLIC NOTICE OF THE HEARING IN THE NEWSPAPER AND PROPERTIES WITHIN 300 FEET.

WE'VE RECEIVED THREE LETTERS OF OPPOSITION TODAY.

TWO OF THOSE LETTERS ARE FOR THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS AT NUMBER ONE AND NUMBER SEVEN ON YOUR MAP.

IF YOU SEE THAT BEFORE YOU, THOSE ARE WITHIN 200 FEET.

THEY DO NOT TRIGGER ANY SPECIAL OR ADDITIONAL VOTING PER THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE.

HOWEVER, THOSE ARE WITHIN 200 FEET.

THE THIRD OPPOSITION LETTER THAT WE THAT YOU RECEIVED IN YOUR PACKET AND I'VE PROVIDED A PRINTOUT FOR EACH ONE OF YOU.

THAT ONE IS OUTSIDE OF 200 FEET.

IT'S SO IT'S NOT PART OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE, BUT IT IS WITH OUR NOTICING ARC.

SO JUST TO KIND OF BRIEFLY SUMMARIZE THAT ONE, BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T GET AN EMAIL BEFOREHAND WITH THAT LETTER, THE APPLICANT, NOT THE APPLICANT, APOLOGIES.

THE PERSON OF CONCERN WAS A BRANT PEAK AT 224 SOUTH DOBSON AND THEY ESSENTIALLY WROTE THAT THEY DO NOT SEE A POINT OF CHANGING THE ZONING ON THE LOT.

WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING WOULD ONLY MAKE WORSE A BAD SITUATION WITH NOLA DUNN STUDENT DROP OFF.

THIS IS ONE STEP AWAY FROM CHANGING THE ZONING FROM ALL THE RESIDENTS IN THE AREA TO COMMERCIAL DRIVING OUT FAMILIES THAT HAVE BEEN HERE FOR DECADES, END QUOTE FOR THEIR

[00:05:08]

LETTER. SO THOSE THREE LETTERS ARE INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKAGE.

STAFF, SO WHEN STAFF LOOKS AT THESE REQUESTS SO WE USE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS WHAT STAFF USES FOR A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL OR DISAPPROVAL.

WHETHER IT FURTHERS THE GOALS AND THE POLICY IS A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

SO IN A LOT OF CASES, WE LOOK AT THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR THE ENTIRE AREA.

SO IN THE OLD TOWN AREA, SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED DWELLING DISTRICT IS A USE THAT IS CALLED OUT.

IT WOULD BE SOMETHING YOU KIND OF EXPECT IN YOUR DOWNTOWN AREAS AND SOME OF YOUR INFILL WHERE YOU EXPECT IT TO BE A LITTLE MORE DENSE, YOU GENERALLY WOULD EXPECT SOME ATTACH TYPE PRODUCTS AND SMALL INFILL AS WELL AS YOUR TRADITIONAL TYPE OF DOWNTOWN WALKABLE, COMMERCIAL/GENERAL RETAIL.

NOT SO MUCH COMMERCIAL, BUT MORE WALKABLE NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES TYPE RETAIL.

SO WITH THAT IN MIND AND WITH THE REQUEST MEETING, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN STAFF RECOMMENDED APPROVAL FOR THIS REQUEST FOR SFA TODAY. AND I'M STANDING BY FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE ABOUT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, THE ZONING REQUEST OR ANYTHING ELSE.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ALL RIGHT. THIS BEING A PUBLIC HEARING, LET ME OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 637 AND I HAVE A COUPLE OF CARDS UP HERE.

THE FIRST CARD I HAVE IS RICHARD HARRISON.

YES, SIR. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO COME ADDRESS, IF YOU'LL JUST COME TO THE PODIUM THERE.

GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS RICHARD HARRISON.

MY WIFE AND I OWNED THE PROPERTY JUST TO THE SOUTH AND ADJACENT TO THIS PROPERTY, AND WE'RE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE DENSITY OF IT.

WE FEEL LIKE THAT, FIRST OF ALL, IT'S GOING TO REDUCE THE VALUE OF OUR PROPERTY BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU, BUT IF I WERE TO BUY A SINGLE FAMILY HOME AND THERE'S A FOUR PLEX RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO ME, I'M NOT SURE THAT I'D BE INTERESTED IN BUYING THAT.

SO THAT'S OUR BIGGEST CONCERN.

WE I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE SEEN MY COMMENTS.

I DIDN'T GET A GET A YOU..

WE DO HAVE A COPY UP HERE? YES, SIR.

WELL, THAT'S MY OTHER CONCERNS.

SO THAT'S BASICALLY I CAN SAY JUST WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY AND WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO IT.

I HAVEN'T I WASN'T ABLE TO GET AN ACTUAL PLAN OF WHAT'S GOING TO BE BUILT THERE.

I KNOW YOU GAVE AN EXAMPLE, BUT THAT'S NOT THE ACTUAL PLAN.

AND ONE OF OUR BIG CONCERNS IS HOUSES THE CAR IS GOING TO GET IN AND OUT OF THE GARAGE.

I ASSUME THEY'D COME IN FROM THE ALLEY AND THE ALLEY IS NOW JUST DIRT, SO IT'D HAVE TO BE PAVED IN SOME WAY SO THAT THAT COULD HAPPEN.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF THE WHEN YOU OPEN THAT ALLEY BACK UP, IT'S AN OLD ALLEY.

IT'S BEEN THERE FOREVER.

BUT IT ALSO GOES CONTINUES ON PAST BEHIND OUR PROPERTY.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WOULD OPEN IT ALL THE WAY OVER TO BUFORD STREET OR NOT, BUT THAT IS A CONCERN AND WE JUST HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT IT.

AND I WISH WE'D HAD MORE PEOPLE HERE TONIGHT TO SPEAK ABOUT THIS, AND I THINK MORE PEOPLE MIGHT HAVE.

BUT THE SIGN THAT'S BEEN UP, SUPPOSEDLY PUT UP SOME TIME AGO HAS BEEN ON THE GROUND ADVERTISING THIS CHANGE FOR AT LEAST TWO WEEKS.

I KNOW I'VE MENTIONED IT TO YOU, BUT YOU DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS DOWN, BUT IT HAS BEEN LAYING ON THE GROUND FOR TWO WEEKS AT LEAST IT MIGHT BE LONGER.

I DON'T KNOW. ANYWAY, I'D APPRECIATE ANYTHING CONSIDERATION YOU COULD GIVE US ON THIS AND WE'LL GO FROM HERE.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ALL RIGHT. THE NEXT CARD I HAVE IS JESSICA.

IS IT NELSON? YES.

YES, MA'AM. I'M JESSICA NELSON, I'M WITH PRACTICE ARCHITECTURE.

THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO REVIEW THIS CASE.

JUST IN SPEAKING TO SOME OF THE CONCERNS, ESPECIALLY WITH PROPERTY VALUES GOING DOWN, I KNOW THAT THAT'S A CONCERN IN SOME OF THE THE LETTERS THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT TO YOUR ATTENTION.

BUT THESE WILL ALL BE INDIVIDUALLY PLATTED HOMES.

SO IN A WAY, THEY ARE STILL CONSIDERED SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.

THEY CAN BE SOLD OFF INDIVIDUALLY.

SO YOU DON'T HAVE THAT THE FEAR OF THE RENTERS MENTALITY COMING IN AND NOT TAKING CARE OF THE FRONT YARD OR TAKING OUT THEIR TRASH APPROPRIATELY, THINGS LIKE THAT. THESE WOULD BE SINGLE FAMILY OWNED PROPERTIES SPLIT INTO TWO,

[00:10:05]

ACTUALLY TWO DUPLEXES.

SO THE ELEVATION THAT YOU SAW ORIGINALLY, IT'S SHOWING THAT THEY'RE CONNECTED, BUT WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO BREAK THEM APART.

SO THEY LOOK LIKE TWO INDIVIDUAL HOMES AND THEY JUST HAVE TWO FRONT DOORS PER HOME, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

WOULD YOU JUST GO BACK TO THE PICTURE THAT WE HAD SO I CAN TRY TO GET THAT IN? YEAH. SO IF YOU SEE THE VIEW FROM DOBSON, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S ONE LONG STRETCH.

BUT IN THE PLAN, YOU'LL SEE.

AND THIS IS APOLOGIES ON MY PART, BUT IT WILL ACTUALLY BE SEPARATED.

SO THERE ARE TWO STRUCTURES, SO THEY'LL LOOK LIKE TWO SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.

THERE'S GOING TO BE A SPACE BETWEEN EACH BUILDING, BETWEEN TWO BUILDINGS.

OH, OK, SORRY, TWO DUPLEXES, NOT FOUR SEPARATE ONES.

CORRECT, CORRECT. GOTCHA.

GREAT. AND THEN WE'RE ACTUALLY ENTERING, WE WOULD BE ENTERING FROM BUFORD, BUT WE WOULDN'T PAVE, LIKE THE ENTIRE ALLEY GOING ALL THE WAY DOWN.

IT WOULD BE GOING IN AND OUT OF BUFORD.

SO NOT NEEDING TO RUN THE ALLEY THROUGH ANYBODY'S BACKYARD OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

AND THEN, LIKE YOU SAID, WE WOULD ALSO BE GOING IN FRONT OF THE THE OLD TOWN DESIGN COMMITTEE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE USING APPROPRIATE MATERIALS, THAT IT'S FITTING IN WITH THE HISTORICAL CONTEXT OF DOWNTOWN.

WHAT BURLESON HAS BUILT DOWN HERE IS IS REALLY UNIQUE, AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PAY RESPECT TO THAT.

OUR GOAL IS TO MAKE THEM LOOK LIKE LITTLE FARMHOUSE HOMES.

AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD BE REALLY CAREFUL TO DO DURING THE DESIGN COMMITTEE REVIEW MEETING AS WELL.

AND THEN I GUESS AGAIN, JUST TO KIND OF REITERATE WHAT BIDEN SAID ABOUT THE WALKABILITY OF KIND OF YOUR DOWNTOWN, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT ATTRACTS EVEN TO SMALL DOWNTOWNS.

I MEAN, THIS ISN'T OUR FIRST SMALL DOWNTOWN PROJECT, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS REALLY ATTRACTIVE TO WHERE YOU CAN HAVE PEOPLE, MORE PEOPLE, JUST A LITTLE BIT OF DENSITY DOWNTOWN TO WHERE YOU HAVE MORE WALKABILITY.

YOU'VE GOT MORE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING INTO YOUR SHOPS AND YOUR RESTAURANTS AND SOME OF THAT DOWNTOWN RETAIL THAT CAN REALLY SUPPORT THAT KIND OF LIVELIER ENVIRONMENT THAT YOU'RE BUILDING DOWNTOWN.

SO. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. WOULD ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS? OKAY. LET ME CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 6:43 AND LYDEN DID A WHILE BACK WAS THERE, WAS THIS THE SAME SPOT OF ANOTHER ZONING CHANGE THAT WOULD LIKE TO A COMMERCIAL? I DON'T THINK I DON'T HAVE ANY RECORD FOR A ZONE CHANGE TO COMMERCIAL AT THIS SITE.

BUT WE WERE SOMEWHERE ELSE WITHIN THIS.

WE'VE HAD OVERHEAD.

WE'VE HAD OTHER ZONE CHANGE REQUESTS NOT FAR FROM HERE.

SO YOU PROBABLY SAW STATION 330 NOT LONG AGO.

THAT WAS A ZONE CHANGE FOR A RETAIL RESTAURANT.

AND THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN IN THIS ON DOBSON DIRECTLY HERE.

SO BECAUSE IT WAS RIGHT ACROSS THE SCHOOL AND I KNOW PEOPLE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT HAVING SEVERAL OPEN BUSINESSES, SO TO SPEAK, AND THE TRAFFIC AND THEY DIDN'T LIKE THAT IDEA.

I REMEMBER THAT KASON AND I THINK IT WAS EITHER SEVEN OR EIGHT AND 13 ON THIS MAP.

YEAH, THAT WAS WHAT I WAS THINKING AS WELL.

IT IS POSSIBLE.

SO SOME OF THESE PROPERTIES ARE THERE IS A CLUSTERING OF SPORADIC ZONING WHERE YOU'LL SEE SOME COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL OR GENERAL RETAIL KIND OF MIXED IN WITH THE SF SEVEN, WHICH AS YOU REDEVELOP YOUR OLD TOWN FROM THE TRADITIONALLY JUST SF SEVEN INTO A MIXTURE OF YOUR KIND OF USES IN AN OLD TOWN FOR THAT WALKABILITY, YOU WILL HAVE THAT AS IT SLOWLY REDEVELOPED THROUGHOUT TIME UNTIL IT ULTIMATELY IS KIND OF REBORN AS AN OLD TOWN, IF YOU WILL.

OH. CAN YOU GO BACK ONE SLIDE BEFORE THIS? MAYBE. SO THAT ONCE BEHIND THIS ARE, LIKE YOU SAID, COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL.

[00:15:01]

SO THOSE SO SOME OF THOSE ARE BEING USED AS I BELIEVE ONE IS A SALON.

AND THEN YOU HAVE SOME OF THESE THAT ARE HIS OWN COMMUNITY COMMERCIALS THAT ARE STILL BEING USED AS SINGLE FAMILY.

SO YOU KIND OF GET THAT MIXTURE OF AN OLD TOWN KIND OF PERMIT SOME OF THESE MIXING OF USE, IF YOU WILL, WHERE YOU CAN HAVE HOUSES THAT ARE HAVE BEEN CONVERTED INTO YOUR SALONS OR YOUR OLD TIMEY BARBER SHOPS.

A LOT OF TIMES YOU SEE LIKE LAW FIRMS, DIFFERENT THINGS GO INTO SOME OF THESE OLDER STRUCTURES.

AND I'LL TELL YOU, I'M NOT AS CONCERNED WITH THAT.

IT WAS JUST I REMEMBER THAT MEETING PEOPLE FROM THIS AREA OR WHEREVER, WE'RE SAYING WE DON'T WANT THE EXTRA CONGESTION COMING IN THERE. SO THAT WAS THE ISSUE.

NOW THEY'RE COMING AND SAYING, HEY, WE'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE HOUSING OF A TOTAL OF FOUR HOUSES TO A TWO DUPLEXES AND THEY'RE STILL SAYING THERE'S TOO MUCH CONGESTION.

SO, I MEAN, WE'RE KIND OF AT A POINT OF LIKE, WE JUST WANT ONE SINGLE HOUSE THERE OR WHERE DO WE GO? AND THAT'S THAT'S WHY I WAS TRYING TO REMEMBER EXACTLY WHERE THAT OTHER LIKE I SAID, IT WAS LIKE THREE OR FOUR BUILDINGS AT A STRIP MALL.

SO I LET ME OPEN IT BACK UP HERE IN JUST A SECOND AND I WILL PROMISE I'LL LET YOU TALK.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

BUT THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING, BECAUSE I JUST REMEMBER THIS HAVING THAT MEETING AND IT COULD HAVE BEEN LAST MONTH FOR ALL I REMEMBER.

IT WAS A WHILE BACK. I DO REMEMBER THAT, MR. CHAIRMAN, IF IT HELPS, THIS POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT DOES NOT TRIGGER A TRANSPORTATION IMPACT ANALYSIS BEING SUBMITTED.

THE TRIPS THAT ARE GENERATED FROM THIS WOULD NOT CONSTITUTE A NEED FOR A FULL BLOWN TRANSPORTATION IMPACT ANALYSIS.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

I CAN'T SPEAK TO THE PREVIOUS CASE THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO.

IT MAY HAVE TRIGGERED A TIA THAT CREATED MORE TRAFFIC COUNTS, BUT IN THIS INSTANCE, IT DOES NOT.

SURE. OKAY.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

LET ME OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING BACKUP AT 6:47.

I'LL HAVE TO DO THAT FOR YOU TO COME UP HERE AND TALK.

BUT YES, MA'AM. IF YOU'LL COME UP TO THE MICROPHONE FOR US, PLEASE.

I NORMALLY DON'T DO THIS, BUT SINCE THERE'S ONLY A FEW OF US IN HERE, I'LL.

I'LL DO IT AT THIS POINT.

THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT.

MY NAME IS VICKI SORENSON.

I LIVE AT 368 SOUTH DOBSON STREET.

AND I JUST WANTED TO REFER TO THE SITE THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT SEVERAL MONTHS AGO WHEN A PERSON ON SOUTH DOBSON, SEVERAL HOUSES SOUTH OF THE PRESENT SITUATION, WE CAME WE HAD 32 SIGNATURES AGAINST THIS HOME BEING TURNED INTO AN OFFICE SPACE.

IT WAS A SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING AND THE OWNER WANTED TO TURN IT INTO A 12 OFFICE BUILDING WITH MANY DIFFERENT PARKING PLACES. AND SO THERE WAS NOBODY IN THE 32 PEOPLE WE TALKED TO WHO WANTED THAT.

AND SO WE CAME AND PROTESTED AND PLANNING IN THE ZONING AGREE AND THE STAFF AGREED THAT IT SHOULD NOT BE TURNED INTO A COMMERCIAL BUILDING. AND SO I'D SORT OF LIKE TO DISAGREE WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, THAT THIS IS IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE SAYING THAT THIS IS JUST A NATURAL PROGRESSION, THAT THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN. AND I'VE LIVED IN MY HOME FOR 50 YEARS, LOVE IT THERE AND WANT TO SEE SOUTH DOBSON REMAIN PRETTY MUCH A RESIDENTIAL STREET.

SO I WAS HAPPY WHEN I LOOKED UP THE ZONING, WHEN I SAW THE SIGN, TO SEE THAT THIS CHANGE WOULD STILL BE FOR FUTURE RESIDENTIAL PLANNING.

SO I'M VERY MUCH FOR THAT, AND I DON'T WANT IT JUST TO BE ASSUMED THAT SOUTH DOBSON IS KIND OF GOING TO BE A MIX. YOU MENTIONED THE SALON.

THAT SALON DESIGNATION HAS BEEN THERE FOR OVER 50 YEARS, AND IT'S NEVER BEEN A SALON SINCE I'VE BEEN THERE.

SO THAT IS NOT HAPPENING.

THERE ARE NOT BUSINESSES SPREADING DOWN THIS WAY YET AND WE HOPE IT WON'T BE.

AND I HOPE YOU'RE SMILE DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU THINK IT'S GOING TO BE SO.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT.

LIKE I KNEW I WASN'T LOSING MY MIND, BUT I APPRECIATE THAT SO.

I HAD TO CLOSE THAT PUBLIC HEARING AGAIN AT 6:50.

SO AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS REMEMBERING.

I REMEMBER TRYING TO GO TO I'M GOING TO CALL IT COMMERCIAL.

I DON'T REMEMBER IF THAT EXACTLY WHAT IT WAS, BUT I REMEMBER ALL OF US TALKING UP HERE SAYING, THAT'S A WHOLE LOT TO HAVE ALL THE TRAFFIC, WHATNOT GOING THERE.

I'LL SAY I'M NOT A FAN OF DUPLEXES OR TRIPLEXES OR QUADPLEXES EITHER, BUT THIS FITS BETTER IN WHAT THIS WHERE IT IS

[00:20:04]

WITH HOUSING, ESPECIALLY IF THEY'RE OWNER OWNED ONES.

PRIME IS TO PUT A PERFECT SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE THERE WITH A THREE BEDROOM, TWO BATHROOM HOUSE.

BUT I'M NOT NECESSARILY OPPOSED AT THIS MINUTE TO OPENING IT UP TO SOMETHING LIKE THIS, ESPECIALLY SINCE IT'S JUST I'M GOING TO SAY ONE LOT.

I THINK IT'LL BE PLATTED IN A FEW LOTS, BUT THIS ONE AREA, AGAIN, I'M NOT SUPER OPPOSED TO IT RIGHT THERE.

IT'S KIND OF WHAT I'M THINKING.

BUT CAN WE GO TO THE MAP THAT HAS THE THE PROPERTY ON IT? SO NOW, MR. HARRISON, ARE YOU AT NUMBER SEVEN? IS THAT WHERE YOU'RE AT? YES, HE'S AT SEVEN.

SO AND THEN THAT ALLEYWAY THAT CONNECTS TO BUFORD, THAT'S BEHIND THERE.

YOU'RE NOT GOING TO CLEAN THAT WHOLE ALLEYWAY OUT JUST BEHIND THAT PROPERTY RIGHT THERE.

SO CARS WON'T BE RUNNING RIGHT BEHIND HIS HOUSE.

SO I DO A LOT OF RUNNING.

I RUN THROUGH OLD TOWN LAWSON STREET OR SCOTCH STREET.

THERE ARE DUPLEXES AND YOU CAN SEE THEM ON THE MAP OVER HERE ON THE FAR RIGHT SIDE.

YOU CAN SEE THE DOUBLE WALKWAYS COMING UP.

AND THOSE ARE ALREADY EXISTING DUPLEXES IN THE OLD TOWN OVERLAY.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE IS A SIMILAR THING TO THAT.

SO YOU KNOW LIKE YOU KASON AND I'M NOT NECESSARILY OPPOSED TO THAT BECAUSE IT ALREADY EXISTS IN THE OLD TOWN OVERLAY.

AND YOU KNOW, I DO RESPECT YOUR PROPERTY THERE AND I CERTAINLY WOULDN'T WANT CARS GOING BEHIND MY HOUSE.

BUT IF THEY'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE CARS GOING DIRECTLY BEHIND YOUR HOUSE, THEN THAT WAS IT.

SO I THINK WHAT YOU SAID EARLIER, KASON IS VALID.

I THINK THE CASE WE LOOKED AT PREVIOUSLY IN THIS AREA, TRAFFIC WAS A CONCERN.

I DON'T KNOW THAT TRAFFIC IS SO MUCH OF A CONCERN FOR THIS SPECIFICALLY, BUT I DO THINK TO UNIFORMITY ACROSS FROM THAT SCHOOL IS PROBABLY DESIRABLE AS WELL.

THE FACT THAT IT STAYS RESIDENTIAL, I THINK IS A POSITIVE THING.

BUT I ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE TO IS THIS IS YOU KNOW, THIS IS A NICE PICTURE TODAY.

IT CAN MEAN NOTHING IN TWO MONTHS.

AND SO REALLY, THE ONLY SORT OF GUIDANCE THE CITY HAS AT A ZONING MEETING IS TO IF WE THINK THE BEST THING FOR IT TO BE IS A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE, THEN THE ZONING NEEDS TO SAY FS7 IF WE WANT TO OPEN IT UP TO ANYTHING ELSE, MEANING A POTENTIALLY A TWO AND A HALF STORY DUPLEX OR QUAD PLEX OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

THEN IF WE WERE TO CHANGE THE ZONING TO SFA, ANY OF THAT IS POSSIBLE AND CORRECT.

AND THE P&Z COMMISSIONER SAID HE REALLY HAS NOT MUCH SAY ONCE IT'S ZONED DESIGNATION..

SO IN THIS AREA WE DO.

SO THIS IS IN OUR OLD TOWN OVERLAY.

SO WE HAVE AN ADDITIONAL BOARD THAT REVIEWS ALL BUILDINGS IN OLD TOWN WHEN THEY COME IN, THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE AN ARCHITECTURAL COMPARISON DOCUMENT, THEY HAVE TO COMPLY TO MASONRY STANDARDS AND THEY HAVE TO MEET.

AND OUR OLD TOWN DESIGN STANDARDS, WE HAVE VERY SPECIFIC THERE'S LIKE SIX DIFFERENT TYPES OF RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE, ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES, BUILDING TYPES FROM DIFFERENT PERIODS IN BURLESON'S HISTORY THAT THEY HAVE TO BUILD TO.

AND THAT BOARD REVIEWS THAT SITE PLAN TO MAKE SURE IT CONFORMS WITH THAT.

AND THEN IF IT DOES, THEY'LL RECOMMEND APPROVAL AND THEN THAT WILL COME BACK BEFORE P&Z AND CITY COUNCIL.

SO THIS IS ONE OF THE FEW AREAS WHERE WE DO HAVE THOSE PROTECTIONS FOR HOW IT WILL BE DEVELOPED AND LOOKED.

ADDITIONALLY WITH THAT, THE SITE PLAN, BECAUSE IT'S ASSOCIATED WITH A ZONE CHANGE, REQUIRES PNC AND COUNCIL APPROVAL.

SO THIS WOULD NOT BE THE LAST TIME YOU SEE IT.

IT COMES BACK BEFORE YOU BECAUSE IT'S ASSOCIATED WITH A ZONE CHANGE.

SO IF, IF THIS WAS REZONED SFA TONIGHT AND THEY CAME WITH A QUAD PLEX, SAY A TWO STORY QUAD PLEX THAT MET THE OLD TOWN'S..

CHRIS I DON'T THINK I THINK THE SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED IS BASICALLY JUST TWO UNITS WITH A SHARED WALL.

ONCE YOU GET PAST THAT, IT BECOMES MULTIFAMILY, WHICH IS THAT'S DIFFERENT.

[00:25:04]

NO CHAIR, THAT'S NOT ACTUALLY I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING NOW THEY COULD COMBINED ALL FOUR.

IT STILL MEET SFA.

SO SFA IS NOT JUST TWO.

THERE'S A LENGTH LIMIT AND THERE'S A LOT WIDTH.

SO THEY HAVE TO PLAT AS THEY PLAT THESE LOTS, THE MOST AMOUNT OF LOTS THAT THEY COULD GET IS FOUR.

SO THEY COULD DO NO MORE THAN FOUR UNITS.

SO NO MORE THAN FOUR DWELLING UNITS COULD GO ON THIS LOT, BUT THEY COULD ATTACH THOSE FOR ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR.

THEY COULD DO ONE, TWO, THREE AND NOT DO THE FOURTH.

SURE. IS THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? I'M SORRY. I MISUNDERSTOOD.

I THOUGHT YOU WERE GOING WITH ARCHITECTURE.

NO, I THINK IT DOES. AND IF IT MEETS THE DESIGN STANDARDS OF OLD TOWN, THEN WE HAVE A ROW OF A STREET WITH SF7 OR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES, AND THEN WE HAVE A TWO STORY QUAD PLEX POTENTIALLY.

OUR COMMERCIAL OR RETAIL IN THE FUTURE.

IT COULD BE WHAT? NO MATTER THE ZONING THAT WOULD GO THERE, THEY WOULD HAVE TO MEET THOSE STANDARDS.

UNDERSTOOD. SO JUST TO CLEAR CLARIFY, TONIGHT'S ACTION IS JUST THE ENTITLEMENT PHASE FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT.

SO THEY THEY STILL HAVE SOME THINGS THAT THEY HAVE TO COMPLY WITH AND BE BACK BEFORE THIS BOARD AND THE CITY COUNCIL ALONG WITH ANOTHER ADDITIONAL.

BUT YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, ONCE YOU APPROVE THAT SFA, THEY CAN DO ALL OF THOSE DIFFERENT TYPES ON THIS SITE LIMITED TO THE REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE SET FORTH IN THE SFA STANDARDS FOR THAT SIZE LOT.

COMPLETELY UNDERSTOOD.

I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS I'VE LEARNED OVER THE YEARS TOO IS HOW IMPORTANT THAT ZONING DESIGNATION IS AND WHAT YOU HAVE IN MIND OF WHAT MAY OR MAY NOT GO THERE MAY NOT EVENTUALLY BE WHAT MAY OR MAY NOT GOES THERE, SO COMPLETELY UNDERSTOOD.

THANK YOU. I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, MAYBE ABOUT HALF DOZEN OR SO.

HOPEFULLY IT DIDN'T TAKE TOO LONG.

WHAT'S THE ACTUAL SIZE OF THE LOT RIGHT NOW? IT'S 0.3 ACRES, POINT THREE, OK.

THESE UNITS THAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT, HOW MANY SQUARE FEET UNITS ARE, IF IT WAS TO BE A FOUR PLEX OR DUPLEX? SO WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY OFFICIAL SUBMITTAL OF ANYTHING AS FAR AS TO GIVE YOU THE NUMBERS.

BUT IN OUR CODE FOR SFA, THEY HAVE TO EACH LOT HAS TO BE A MINIMUM OF I DON'T WANT TO LIE TO YOU OFF TO 20 FEET WIDE, I BELIEVE ARE 25 FEET WIDE BY A CERTAIN FEET DEEP.

SO THE MAX NUMBER AND I HAVE DONE THIS MATH WOULD BE FOR NOW, ONCE THEY GET INTO ENGINEERING AND THE SITE PLAN, THEY MAY FIND THAT THEY CAN ONLY DO THREE, BUT THEY CAN NEVER DO MORE THAN FOUR.

THE LOTS NOT THEIR GEOMETRY OF THE LOT WOULDN'T ALLOW MORE THAN FOUR.

THESE PARKING OUT IN FRONT ON DOBSON.

IS THERE ANY RESTRICTIONS AS FAR AS SCHOOL? NO PARKING DURING SCHOOL? THERE'S NOT THERE'S NO RESTRICTIONS ON THE PARKING AT OLD TOWN.

ALL RIGHT. AND JUST TO CLARIFY OR TO ADD A LITTLE MORE TO THAT, THAT IS A CITY INITIATED PROJECT.

SO THAT'S NOT A DEVELOPER LED PROJECT.

OKAY. CAN I ASK MR. HARRISON A QUESTION REAL QUICK? THE TURNERS KNOW, DO YOU REMEMBER THE TURNERS THAT USED TO LIVE? I THINK THEY WERE ON THE ELDRIDGE, WHICH LOT NUMBER WAS THAT I GUESS THEY WERE THERE FOR..

THEY WERE PRETTY 60 YEARS I TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHICH LAW THAT THEY WERE.

AND THEN THERE WAS THE ONE THAT HAD THE SWIMMING POOL.

NO, I DIDN'T KNOW. OKAY.

WE HAVEN'T HAD. YEAH, I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHICH ONE IT WAS.

[INAUDIBLE] WE BOUGHT THE HOUSE IN 2017 AND IT WAS ALREADY, THE POOL WAS FILLED IN AND THE BUILDING IS GONE.

THIS IS THE PROPERTY THAT HAD.

THIS WAS THE OLD OAK.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING.

I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL EVER BEEN OVER THERE IN THE MORNING OR THE AFTERNOON WHEN SCHOOL IS STARTING OR LETTING OUT.

BUT THERE'S CARS EVERYWHERE ON THAT SIDE STREET, BUFORD STREET.

THEY PARK UP AND DOWN THERE.

AND OF COURSE, IN THOSE ANGLED PARKING SPOTS, IT LOOKS LIKE FROM THE PLAN THAT YOU PLAN ON LEAVING THOSE.

IS THAT RIGHT? YES, SIR.

BUT WE JUST FEEL LIKE THIS IS GOING TO ADD TO THE CONGESTION.

SO I UNDERSTAND THE ALLEY THAT'S EXISTING RIGHT NOW.

DO YOU KNOW ABOUT HOW MANY FEET IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE DESIGNATED? SO IF THE ALLEY WAS ABANDONED, HALF WOULD GO TO EACH PROPERTY OWNER, I DON'T AGAIN, WE HAVEN'T HAD A SITE PLAN REVIEW AND I HAVEN'T PREPARED THAT DATA.

BUT THE ALLEYWAY, IF IT'S NOT ENOUGH SUFFICIENT FOR THEM TO GET IN THERE FOR ACCESS, THEY WOULD HAVE TO USE PART OF THEIR SITE TO ACCESS, WHICH COULD POTENTIALLY LEAD TO THEM LOSING ANOTHER UNIT.

RIGHT. RIGHT. AND THAT'S WHAT I DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE'S LIKE A MINIMUM FOR HOW MANY YEARS IT'S BEEN TEN FEET OR 12 FEET OR 15 FEET.

IF THERE'S A MINIMUM CODE ON WHAT IT WOULD HAVE, IT DEPENDS ON FIRE ACCESS.

SO IF IF AN ALLEY IS USED FOR A FIRE, I DON'T WANT TO GET TOO MUCH IN THE SITE PLAN, BUT WE REVIEW ALL THAT IN THE SITE PLAN.

SO IF THEY COULDN'T MEET THE HOLE WHICH THE SIZE OF THE LOT THEY WE'LL BE ABLE TO.

THEY WOULD HAVE FOR SAFETY REASONS, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'LL BE THE CASE.

AND I KNOW SOME OF THIS IS A LITTLE BIT FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD.

UTILITY EASEMENTS, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT HAS TO BE MODIFIED? ANY UPGRADES TO CITY SEWER WATER DON'T AFFECT THESE.

SO THERE'S ALREADY FACILITIES AVAILABLE TO THE SITE.

THEY'D HAVE TO GET METERS FOR THE UNITS AND THEY MAY HAVE TO PAY IMPACT FEES FOR THE ADDITIONAL DENSITY, BUT THAT WOULD BE REVIEWED BY THE CITY ENGINEER'S TEAM UPON SITE PLAN

[00:30:10]

SUBMITTAL OK.

AND IN THAT ALLEY, WHO WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT? WOULD THAT BE THE EACH OF THE FOUR WOULD BE ALMOST LIKE AN HOA.

SO IF THEY ABOUT IF THE ALLEY WERE TO BE ABANDONED, THEN EACH HALF WOULD GO TO THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS IF THE ALLEY WAS NOT ABANDONED.

SO GENERALLY IT WOULD BE ON THE DEVELOPER TO BRING IT UP TO WHATEVER STANDARD BECAUSE THEY'RE DEVELOPING ALONG IT.

OTHERWISE IT WOULD BE CITY.

IF IT DIDN'T DEVELOP, IT COULD POTENTIALLY BE CITY MAINTAINED.

SO JUST TO ADD TO THAT, CURRENTLY IT'S A DEDICATED ALLEYWAY TO THE CITY, SO THE DEVELOPER WOULD BE REQUIRED TO IMPROVE THAT PORTION OF THE ALLEYWAY FOR THEIR DEVELOPMENT AND MAY HAVE TO GO BEYOND THAT DEPENDING ON THE ANALYSIS DURING THE NEXT PHASE OF THIS PROJECT, WHICH WOULD BE THE PLANNING PHASE. YEAH, MAIN THING I WAS TRYING TO GET AT WAS I'VE SEEN OTHER ONES SIMILAR TO THIS TOWARD THE ENDED UP HAVING TO PUNCH ALL THE WAY THROUGH OR THEN IT AFFECTED THE OTHER HOMEOWNER.. AND THAT MAY BE A POSSIBILITY.

I WAS GOING TO ADD THAT AT SOME POINT, BUT THAT ANALYSIS HAS NOT BEEN DONE BY STAFF, THE ENGINEERING STAFF, BECAUSE WEKKKKKKKK WERE JUST IN THE ENTITLEMENT PHASE.

IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE ALLEY WOULD NOT BE PUNCHED THROUGH AFTER TALKING TO THE ENGINEERING.

SO THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING.

AND THAT'S THAT'S GENERALLY IF YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOME KIND OF ACCESS OR INGRESS EGRESS AT DIFFERENT THINGS.

BUT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO BE BOUND TO THAT, BUT THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEY WOULD NOT BRING IT THROUGH.

OKAY. YEAH, JUST SOMEWHAT CONCERNS, MY PERSONAL CONCERNS, WHAT I'VE SEEN WITH EXISTING HOMEOWNERS PROPERTIES WHERE PEOPLE ARE PARKING UP AGAINST THEIR FENCE IN THEIR GRASS AND STUFF. AND I WAS TRYING TO GET ALL THIS IN MY THOUGHTS RIGHT NOW.

I THINK THAT'S GOT IT. I APPRECIATE IT.

YES, SIR. CAN I HAVE ANOTHER? GOT IT. OK.

LAST TIME THROUGH.

OPENING THIS UP. SO GET ALL THE COMMENTS OUT HERE.

7:02 I'M GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GOT A COPY OF THAT SEWER PLAN THAT I INCLUDED, BUT THE SEWER LINE RUNS RIGHT THROUGH THIS PROPERTY.

A CITY SEWER LINE RUNS DOWN THE BACK SIDE OF THE PROPERTY IN BETWEEN OUR PROPERTY AND THIS PROPERTY.

SO WOULD THE CITY HAVE TO RELOCATE THAT OUT INTO THE STREET OR WOULD IT REMAIN THE SAME? I CAN ANSWER THAT.

I WAS ABOUT TO SAY TO ANSWER THAT AGAIN, WE ARE JUST IN THE ENTITLEMENT PHASE, SO WE WERE ONLY DISCUSSING THE ZONING FOR THIS.

THAT PORTION WILL BE REVIEWED DURING THE NEXT PHASE IF IT IS APPROVED FOR.

OKAY. I JUST WANT TO MAKE YOU AWARE THERE IS A PROBLEM WITH THE SEWER.

OK. ALL RIGHT.

CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 7:03.

I MISS NELSON, SINCE YOU'RE BASICALLY THE APPLICANT ON THIS.

IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU NEED TO ADD AT THIS POINT OR IS IT ALL OUT THERE? OKAY. JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? CONCERNS? NO. MY CONCERNS ARE STILL THE POSSIBILITY THAT THIS COULD GO A LITTLE BIT TOO BIG FOR THAT AREA, THE WAY THAT IT SET UP RIGHT NOW, SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING.

I ALWAYS ENVISIONED THAT AREA REMAINING THE SAME JUST PERSONALLY.

YEAH. AND I DEFINITELY UNDERSTAND THAT, TOO.

LIKE JASON SAID, JUST ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE NOT EVEN THE OTHER SIDE CATTY CORNER ON THE SCHOOL, THERE ARE, I THINK, THREE OR FOUR DIFFERENT DUPLEXES.

AND AGAIN, THIS IS I MEAN, YEAH, I WOULD LOVE FOR IT TO STAY SINGLE.

FAMILY SEVEN WOULD BE A BEAUTIFUL HOUSE TOO, BUT IT COULD BE JUST AS RUNDOWN AS SOME OF THE OTHER HOUSES.

AND UNFORTUNATELY, SOME OF THE HOUSES IN THIS AREA ARE NOT GREAT.

BUT I THINK WHAT'S BEING PRESENTED HERE, I DON'T LIKE THE IDEA OF A FOUR PLEX, QUAD PLEX.

I DON'T LIKE THE IDEA CAN GO THAT BAD, THAT BIG.

THAT'S MY ONE RESERVATION OF GOING ON TO THIS.

SO I WOULD HOPE OLD TOWN OVERLAY, I WOULD SAY TWO AT THE MOST.

YOU'RE KIND OF SHAKING YOUR HEAD BACK THERE.

BUT YEAH, BECAUSE LIKE YOU SAID, WITH THE ZONING, ONCE WE CHANGE IT IS STILL OPENS YOU UP TO ALL THESE THINGS.

SO WE HAVE NOT AS MUCH CONTROL MOVE IN THAT POINT FORWARD.

SO THAT'S JUST WHY I WISH YOU COULD, BUT I'VE ALREADY CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING, BUT THAT'S WHY I'M JUST SAYING OUT LOUD AND I THINK THAT'S THE VIEWPOINT OF MOST PEOPLE UP HERE IS THEY DON'T WANT TRIPLEXES OR QUADPLEXES.

THEY DON'T LIKE THAT IDEA, YOU KNOW, EVEN THE TWO AND A HALF STORY TALL AGAIN, IF IT LOOKS NICE AND STAYS NICE AND PEOPLE TAKE OWNERSHIP,

[00:35:08]

THAT'S WONDERFUL TO THINK.

BUT AS CHRIS HAS MENTIONED, A LOT OF TIMES WE HAVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR FOUR OR FIVE YEARS AND EVEN FOUR OR FIVE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, SOME OF THIS BUILDING DOESN'T LOOK NEAR AS NICE. SO AND THAT'S A RISK WE TAKE WITH WHATEVER ZONING CHANGE WE DO.

SO BUT AGAIN, I THINK THIS IS A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

SO THAT'S WHY I WOULD VOTE FOR IT.

ALL RIGHT. LET'S TAKE A VOTE THEN ON ITEM THREE.

A CASE 22108.

MR. CHAIRMAN, WE'LL NEED A MOTION.

SORRY I WORDED THAT WRONG, BUT YES.

CAN I TAKE A MOTION AND THEN A VOTE? THANK YOU. WHAT DID I SAY? OH, THANK YOU, PEGGY.

ITEM 4A, YOU CAN TELL I'M RIGHT AT THE END OF MY ROPE HERE.

SO I WILL TAKE A MOTION ON ITEM 4A, THANK YOU.

I PROPOSE A MOTION TO APPROVE ZONING CHANGE CASE 22-108.

ALL RIGHT. AND I WILL SECOND THAT.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY JASON AND SECONDED BY KASON.

ALL IN FAVOR OF YOU. RAISE YOUR HAND.

JASON AND KASON ARE FOR ALL OPPOSED.

BILL AND CHRIS ARE AGAINST.

TWO-TWO TIE GOES TO COUNCIL.

IS THAT HOW WE HAVE TO DO IT? YOU CAN ASK FOR ANOTHER MOTION, BUT IF THERE'S A DEADLOCK, YOU STILL MAKE A REPORT TO THE COUNCIL.

THERE'S NOT AN OFFICIAL RECOMMENDATION ONE WAY OR THE OTHER BECAUSE THE COMMISSION IS DEADLOCKED, WHICH IS FINE, BUT THAT'S SUFFICIENT TO MAKE A REPORT TO COUNCIL. AND I THINK EVERYBODY IS GOING TO VOICE WHAT THEIR THOUGHTS ARE ON IT.

SO I'LL OPEN IT UP IF THERE IS ANOTHER MOTION.

BUT IF NOT, THEN I THINK COUNCIL CAN TAKE THIS UP AND HOPEFULLY THERE'S AN ODD NUMBER OF COUNCIL THEY CAN MAKE A VOTE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

THE OPTION IS TO HASH IT OUT TO SEE IF ANY OF US CHANGE OUR MIND AND TAKE ANOTHER MOTION OR.

YEAH, I MEAN, THAT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT, BUT I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY, ANYBODY, ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS CAN MAKE ANOTHER MOTION TOTALLY.

SO AT THIS POINT, COULD YOU DO A MOTION WITH A RESTRICTION ON IT? YOU CAN'T DO A RESTRICTION ON A ZONING CHANGE.

THIS ISN'T A PD DEVELOPMENT.

IF YOU HAD A PD, THAT'S PART OF THE PROCESS, BUT BECAUSE IT'S A STRAIGHT ZONING REQUEST.

YEAH. YOU COULDN'T PUT A CONDITION ON TOP OF THE ZONING REQUEST ITSELF.

ARE WE OKAY WITH A LITTLE DIFFERENT? I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE DO AT THIS POINT.

WELL, I THINK AT THAT POINT, IF THERE'S NOT ANOTHER MOTION, THEN IT'S NEITHER APPROVED OR DENIED.

AND THE REPORT TO COUNCIL IS THAT THERE WAS A MOTION MADE TO APPROVE THE ITEM THAT FAILED TO PASS BASED ON A 2 TO 2 VOTE, AND THEY TAKE IT UP FROM THERE.

I THINK IF WE MAKE A MOTION THE OTHER WAY, IT'S GOING TO BE THE SAME RESULT.

SO THAT'S FINE.

I JUST DON'T WANT TO SAY YOU DON'T ONLY GET ONE SHOT OF THE MOTION, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? AGAIN, I THINK WE'RE DEADLOCKED HERE.

I'M NOT TRYING TO TALK YOU OUT OF IT.

I'M JUST SAYING I TRY NOT TO PUT MY THUMB ON THE SCALES IN ANYTHING.

THAT'S YOUR JOB. AND THAT'S WHERE I WAS GOING TO ADD.

IT WOULD TAKE DISCUSSION AMONGST YOURSELVES TO FIND IF THERE'S ANY CHANCE THAT ONE MAY LEAD LEAN ONE WAY AND OPPOSITE OF WHAT YOU VOTED JUST EARLIER.

SO THAT'S A DISCUSSION THAT THE COMMISSIONERS CAN HAVE.

AND THEN IF YOU ARE STILL DEADLOCKED, THEN WE JUST MOVE ON.

BUT LOOKING AROUND, OBVIOUSLY, YOU ALL DISCUSSED IT PLENTY HERE.

THERE'S NO, THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH SAYING..

I DON'T, I THINK I UNDERSTAND AND APPRECIATE CERTAINLY THE POSITIONS KASON AND JASON COME FROM WE JUST YEAH LIKEWISE I SO FOR SURE SO AND HONESTLY I DON'T THINK ANY OF US ARE FAR OFF FROM WHAT IT IS.

AND THAT'S WHY I SAID I THINK GOING TO COUNCIL AND LETTING THEM MAKE THE DECISION, ARE THEY COMFORTABLE WITH UP TO FOUR OR DO THEY WANT SINGLE FAMILY SEVEN AND THAT'S WHAT THEY GET THE BIG BUCKS FOR.

SO YEAH, AND IT WORKS FOR ME AND REALLY I DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT IT NEEDS SAYING BUT YOU KNOW, ONCE THE ZONING CHANGE HAPPENS, THERE IS MUCH THAT IS OUT OF OUR HANDS. AND SO IT COULD END UP BEING GREAT.

IT COULD JUST AS EASILY END UP BEING A NIGHTMARE FOR THOSE THAT HAVE LIVED THERE FOR A LONG TIME AND FOR THOSE TO COME.

SO THAT'S YOUR REASON FOR MY VOTE? YEAH, I AGREE WITH YOU.

I UNDERSTAND THAT, TOO.

AND I MEAN, AND ON THE FLIP SIDE, IT YOU OWN YOUR PROPERTY AND YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING WITH IT.

I'VE ALWAYS BEEN LANDOWNER AS RIGHTS, BUT I DEFINITELY GET IT.

IF I'M LIVING THERE, I'M REAL SKEPTICAL.

SO BUT YEAH, LIKEWISE.

[00:40:01]

I DON'T THINK WE'LL CHANGE OUR MIND.

SO WE'LL IF YOU GUYS WILL JUST TAKE IT TO COUNCIL WITH ALL OF OUR COMMENTS.

AND THEN IF YOU GUYS WANT TO COME BACK, WHEN WILL THIS BE ON FOR COUNCIL? DO WE HAVE A DATE YET? I DON'T WANT TO LIE TO YOU AND TELL YOU THE WRONG DATE, BUT I BELIEVE IT'S THE 23RD.

IT WAS NOTICED. I CAN.

SO YOU GUYS JUST.

I DON'T WANT TO INADVERTENTLY GIVE YOU THE WRONG DATE, BUT I WILL JUST IT'S BEEN NOTICED.

JUST EVERYBODY'S, I GUESS, EDIFICATION.

BUT WHEN THIS HAPPENS, OBVIOUSLY THE COMMISSION DIDN'T MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL.

OBVIOUSLY, IF THERE IS A DENIAL VOTE THAT TRIGGERS A SUPERMAJORITY REQUIREMENT OUT COUNCIL.

AND WHEN YOU HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THIS, THIS ISN'T A DENIAL, THIS IS JUST A NON APPROVAL, WHICH SOUNDS LIKE I'M JUST TALKING IN LAWYER SPEAK.

THERE'S ACTUALLY A BIG DIFFERENCE.

SO AS THIS MATTER GOES FORWARD, YOU HAVE FILED A REPORT WHICH ARE REQUIRED BY THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE BUT IT WILL NOT TRIGGER THE SUPERMAJORITY.

SO COUNCIL WILL BE ABLE TO DETERMINE THIS CASE, CAN APPROVE THIS CASE WITH JUST A SIMPLE MAJORITY VOTE.

ALL RIGHT. THERE YOU HAVE IT.

THANKS [INAUDIBLE] ALL RIGHT.

[4B. 4139 S Burleson Blvd (Case 22-089): Hold a public hearing and consider a zoning change request from “A”, Agricultural to “PD”, Planned Development District for a 4.13 acre site.]

SO LET'S MOVE ON TO ITEM 4B, WHICH IS 4139 SOUTH BURLESON BOULEVARD, CASE 22089 TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER A ZONING CHANGE REQUEST FROM A AGRICULTURAL TO THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT FOR A 4.13 ACRE SITE. THE APPLICANT HAS WITHDRAWN THIS REQUEST.

ALL RIGHT.

WE CAN MOVE ON TO REPORTS AND PRESENTATIONS, WHICH I DON'T THINK THERE ARE ANY.

AND THEN WE CAN MOVE ON TO THE OTHER ITEMS FOR CONSIDERATION FOR THE NOMINATION AND ELECTION OF A PLANNING ZONE COMMISSION CHAIRMAN AND A PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION

[6. Other Items for Consideration]

VICE CHAIRMAN.

SO I UNDERSTAND THAT THREE OF THE FOUR UP HERE WILL BE STEPPING DOWN HERE IN THE COMING SHORT WEEKS.

SO THAT LEAVES ONE PERSON THAT'S HERE..

WHO'S GOING TO BE LEFT.

THANK YOU, MATT.

RUSSELL.

I'D LIKE TO PROPOSE ADAM RUSSELL AS THE INCOMING CHAIR OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.