[6A. 3808 S. Burleson Blvd. (Case 22-104): Hold a public hearing and consider a waiver to Section 5.5.E “Parking Lot/Site Layout Design Criteria” of the Design Standards Manual as amended by Resolution R-1175-10 for the parking lot design within 3808 S. Burleson Blvd. (Staff Presenter: Michelle McCullough, Assistant Public Works Director) (Planning and Zoning Commission recommended approval by unanimous vote.)]

6A IS 3808 SOUTH BURLESON BOULEVARD, CASE 22-104 TONIGHT TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER A WAIVER TO SECTION 5.5.E PARKING LOT SITE LAYOUT DESIGN CRITERIA OF THE DESIGN STANDARDS MANUAL AS AMENDED BY RESOLUTION R-1175-10 FOR THE PARKING LOT DESIGN WITHIN 3808 SOUTH BURLESON BOULEVARD.

THE STAFF PRESENTER IS MICHELLE MCCULLOUGH, ASSISTANT PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR.

MS. MCCULLOUGH. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

HOPEFULLY I CAN GET THROUGH THIS PRESENTATION BEFORE MY ALLERGIES ACT UP TONIGHT, BUT I DO HAVE WATER, SO WE SHOULD BE GOOD.

AS AMANDA SAID, THIS IS A WAIVER REQUEST FOR THE PARKING LOT STANDARDS.

AT 3808 SOUTH BURLESON BOULEVARD, THE PROPERTY IS APPROXIMATELY TWO ACRES, AND IT'S LOCATED SOUTH OF THE INTERSECTION OF VALLEY STREET AND SOUTH BURLESON BOULEVARD.

THE APPLICANT IS LARRY POOLE AND THE ITEM BEFORE YOU AS A WAIVER TO THE PARKING LOT AND SITE LAYOUT DESIGN CRITERIA . A LITTLE BACKGROUND, IF SOME OF YOU REMEMBER YOU'VE SEEN A COUPLE OF THESE WAIVERS COME THROUGH.

THE CITY COUNCIL DID APPROVE THE RESOLUTION AMENDING THE DESIGN STANDARDS MANUAL BACK IN JUNE OF 21, 2010, AND IT WAS AMENDED TO INCLUDE THE PARKING LOT PAVEMENT STANDARDS, AND THAT INCLUDED A CHOICE OF SIX INCH ASPHALT, CONCRETE OR FIVE INCH OF I'M SORRY, ASPHALT CONCRETE OR FIVE INCHES OF REINFORCED CONCRETE ON LIME STABILIZATION.

THE CITY COUNCIL HAS APPROVED WAIVERS ON RECENT PROJECTS FOR FLEX SPACE IN AREAS WHERE THE PUBLIC DOES NOT HAVE ACCESS.

THE FOLLOWING SECTION IS A MINIMUM THAT WE HAVE SUPPORTED IN THE PAST, WHICH IS SEVEN INCHES OF FLEX SPACE ON 95% COMPACTED BASE.

THE APPLICANT HAS STATED THAT THE PARKING LOT, THE EXISTING PARKING LOT CONSISTS OF TEN INCHES OF FLEX SPACE TODAY, SO PUBLIC NOTICES WERE MAILED TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND A NOTICE WAS PUBLISHED IN THE NEWSPAPER.

THIS ITEM WAS PRESENTED TO THE P AND Z COMMISSION AND THEY DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL UNANIMOUSLY.

THERE WERE NO SPEAKERS AND THERE WAS NO DISCUSSION.

SO THE ACTION BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS TO APPROVE A WAIVER TO SECTION 5.5 OF THE PARKING LOTS AND SITE LAYOUT DESIGN OF THE DESIGN STANDARDS MANUAL, AND WE DID PUT A COUPLE OF CONDITIONS ON IT.

AT THIS TIME THERE IS NO USER FOR THE PROPERTY, BUT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING SHOWING THE SECTION, WE ARE SAYING THAT A GEOTECHNICAL ENGINEERING REPORT SHOULD BE SUBMITTED TO THE CITY DETAILING THE PAVEMENT SECTION AND THAT THE PARKING LOT SHALL ONLY BE UTILIZED FOR EMPLOYEE PARKING OR VEHICLE TRUCK STORAGE AND NOT ACCESSIBLE TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC AS WE HAVE IN THE PAST.

THE APPLICANT IS HERE FOR QUESTIONS AND STAFF IS AVAILABLE AS WELL.

THIS IS AN EXISTING PARKING LOT THAT'S NOT IN VIEW OF ANYTHING.

[INAUDIBLE] GEOTECHNICAL SURVEY.

WHY? BECAUSE WE DO HAVE STANDARDS AND WE DO HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE MET.

SO THE GEOTECH WOULD CONFIRM WHAT THE SECTION IS RIGHT NOW.

ALL WE HAVE IS WHAT THE APPLICANT HAS STATED.

OKAY, JUST SEEMS A LITTLE BIT OF AN OVERKILL, BUT I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

YEAH. MY QUESTION IS KIND OF ALONG THOSE SAME LINES.

IF THIS IS ALREADY IN PLACE, REGARDLESS OF WHAT COMES OUT, WOULDN'T IT BE GRANDFATHERED? NO, BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING ON IT RIGHT NOW.

SO IF THE USE WERE TO CHANGE OR A USE COMES ON, THEY HAVE TO MEET TODAY'S STANDARDS, AND TODAY'S STANDARDS IS THE RESOLUTION THAT WE HAVE TODAY.

SO THEY'RE EITHER REQUIRED TO REQUEST A WAIVER OR CONSTRUCT IT TODAY'S STANDARDS.

SO IN LIEU OF CONSTRUCTING OR RECONSTRUCTING IT, THEY'RE ASKING FOR A WAIVER FOR WHAT'S THERE.

OKAY, SO UNDERSTOOD. SO BECAUSE OF THE ADDITIONAL CHANGE TO THE PROPERTY'S WHY IT'S FALLING UNDER THE CRITERIA? CORRECT. OKAY, MAYOR, IF YOU COULD OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, PLEASE.

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I'M HAVING A PROBLEM LIKE HIM GETTING THE SURVEY OR WHAT YOU WANT TO CALL.

THIS IS FOR PERSONAL USE.

NO TRAFFIC ON IT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, THAT'S JUST A JUST AN OVERKILL TO ME.

I WANT TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING UP HERE AT 5:51.

IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS ITEM? I HAVE NO SPEAKER CARDS EITHER, MAYOR.

SO IF YOU'D LIKE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 5:52.

MAYOR, IF YOU COULD CALL FOR A VOTE, IS THERE A MOTION ON THIS? PRESIDENT THAT WE'VE DONE THIS SUNBELT RENTALS COMES TO MIND AND BURLESON NISSAN COMES TO MIND.

WE'VE PRETTY ROUTINELY DONE THIS, AND I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THIS IS SOMETHING THAT STAFF MIGHT WANT TO REVISIT THE ORDINANCE ON IN GENERAL SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THIS WAIVER. A CONTRACT WAS APPROVED ON JULY 18TH TO UPDATE THE DESIGN STANDARDS MANUAL, AND SO WE'RE KICKING THAT OFF IN SEPTEMBER.

THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S ON THERE, BUT BECAUSE OF THE WORDING THAT WE HAVE TODAY, IT'S A SHALL, STAFF CAN'T WAIVE IT RIGHT.

SO MY MOTION STANDS TO APPROVE THE ITEM AS REQUESTED.

IS THERE A SECOND? IS THAT MOTION TO APPROVE WITH THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION OF THE TWO CONDITIONAL ITEMS ON THEIR FOR THE GEOTECH? AS WRITTEN. YES, AS REQUESTED BY STAFF.

OKAY, THANK YOU. I THINK THE GEOTECHNICAL REPORT IS A DOCUMENT OF SOME IMPORTANCE.

I GOT A MOTION BY MCCLENDON AND A SECOND BY GREEN.

PLEASE VOTE. PASSES UNANIMOUS.

THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM 6E, WHICH WE HAVE ALREADY WITHDRAWN FROM THE AGENDA AND PLACED ON THE SEPTEMBER 6TH AGENDA.

[Items 7A & 7B]

SO THAT BRINGS US TO SECTION SEVEN GENERAL.

7A IS CONSIDER AND TAKE ACTION ON AN ORDINANCE FOR THE SALE AND ASSURANCE OF THE CITY OF BURLESON, TEXAS COMBINATION TAX AND REVENUE CERTIFICATIONS OF OBLIGATION BONDS SERIES 2022 NOT TO EXCEED $13.5 MILLION AND ISSUANCE COSTS.

THIS IS BEFORE COUNCIL ON FIRST AND FINAL READING.

THE STAFF PRESENTER IS MARTIN AVILA FINANCE DIRECTOR.

MR. AVILA.

CITY SECRETARY CAMPOS CAN WE DO BOTH? READ BOTH OF THEM, AND THAT WAY I COULD PRESENT MY PRESENTATION INCLUDES BOTH, AND THEN WE COULD VOTE ON EACH ONE.

MY FAULT. 7B CONSIDER AND TAKE ACTION ON AN ORDINANCE FOR THE SALE AND ISSUANCE OF CITY OF BURLESON, TEXAS GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS SERIES 2022 NOT TO EXCEED $1.45 MILLION AND ISSUANCE COST FIRST AND FINAL READING STAFF PRESENT, STILL MARTIN AVILA, DIRECTOR OF FINANCE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

TODAY BEFORE YOU WE HAVE TWO TWO BOND SALES.

WE HAVE A A GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND, WHICH IS KIND OF PART OF OUR $86 MILLION BOND PROGRAM.

WE'RE GOING TO START THAT OFF THIS FISCAL YEAR, AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE A CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION BOND ISSUE THAT IS GOING TO BE PAID WITH SELF SUPPORTING DEBT, AND AGAIN, I'VE MENTIONED THIS IN THE PAST THAT THE SELF-SUPPORTING DEBT IS DEBT THAT'S BEING SUPPORTED BY OTHER REVENUES OTHER THAN AD VALOREM TAXES.

SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE TALK ABOUT THAT.

THE BOND SALE FOR THE GENERAL OBLIGATION, IT'S ABOUT $1.4 MILLION.

IT STARTS WITH SOME OF THE DESIGN STUDIES.

IT STARTS WITH SOME OF THE SMALLER PROJECTS AND AGAIN, WE MOVE FORWARD IN REGARDS TO THAT PROGRAM, THE CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATIONS, IT'S ABOUT 13.5 MILLION , AND AGAIN, IT'S THREE DIFFERENT SELF SUPPORTING DEBT FUNDS THAT ARE INVOLVED.

WE GOT $6 MILLION FROM THE WATER AND SEWER PRIMARILY FOR THE FORT WORTH SEWER LINE JOINT VENTURE THAT WE HAVE THAT WE'RE KIND OF PARTICIPATING IN THAT, BUT WE HAVE A $4 MILLION FOR 4B FUND AS PART OF THEIR FIVE YEAR CIP PLAN, AND THEN WE HAVE A $3.2 MILLION FOR THE TIF 2 AS PART OF THEIR COMMITMENT TO THE LICENSE STREET PROJECT.

AGAIN, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WANT TO MENTION IS WE HAVE THIS GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND.

IT IS THE START OF THE BOND PROGRAM, AND SO, AGAIN, IT IS TWO BOND ISSUES AND ONE IS THE GENERAL OBLIGATION THAT'S GOING TO BE TIED TO AD VALOREM TAX, THE DEBT RATE, AND THEN YOU ALSO HAVE THE CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATIONS FOR SELF SUPPORTING DEBT.

EXCITING AS WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS FOR US IS WE GO THROUGH THIS BOND RATING PROCESS BECAUSE AGAIN, AS PART OF ISSUING DEBT, THE BOND RATING

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AGENCIES HAVE TO PROVIDE THEIR BOND RATING SCORE TO ALLOW THE CREDIT WORTHINESS OF THE CITY, AND A LOT OF THE INVESTORS WHO PURCHASE THESE BONDS WILL LOOK AT THAT RATING, AND SO THIS SLIDE I'VE USED THIS SLIDE IN THE PAST, BUT IT'S BEEN UPDATED.

SO NOW MOODY'S HAS UPGRADED OUR BOND RATING FROM AN AA THREE TO AN AA TWO.

SO I THINK IT IS TIME NOW THAT WE ARE MOODY'S HAS RECOGNIZED US.

WE PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE BEEN A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, BUT THE PANDEMIC CAME IN AND THEY REALLY WERE HESITANT TO MAKE ANY TYPES OF CHANGES, BUT I THINK I THINK AT THIS POINT, EVEN THOUGH THE PANDEMIC HAS BEEN TWO YEARS INTO IT, THE CITY CONTINUES TO GROW, SHOWS THAT FINANCIAL STRENGTH.

SO I THINK THAT WAS A CONTRIBUTION AND AN ATTRIBUTION FROM FROM OUR COUNCIL AND CITY MANAGEMENT AND ALL OF US IN REGARDS TO HOW WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH THE CITY AS IT'S GROWING, AND AGAIN, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS INTERESTING ABOUT THAT AA TWO, AND THIS INFORMATION WAS PROVIDED BY OUR FINANCIAL ADVISORS, HILLTOP.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE BOTTOM OF THE NOTE, MOODY'S RATES 22,700 CITIES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY, AND ONLY 1000 OF THEM HAVE A AA TWO RATING, AND SO THAT IS REALLY A GREAT PART.

THAT PRETTY MUCH PUTS THE CITY OF BURLESON AT THE TOP FIVE, AND AGAIN, IT'S THAT FOCAL POINT.

JESSIE RESPONDED AND PROVIDED THAT AWARD THAT AS PART OF THE CITIES BEING INVOLVED.

WELL, AGAIN, THIS IS THE OTHER SIDE OF IT, SHOWING THE STRENGTH OF THE FINANCIAL CAPABILITIES OF THE GROWTH, THE CITY OF BURLESON.

SO IT'S EXCITING THAT WE COULD SEE BOTH OF THESE GOING FORWARD AND SO KIND OF GIVES YOU A RECAP OF HOW LONG WE'VE BEEN IN A THREE.

WITH MOODY'S, IT GOES BACK TEN YEARS, AND SO IN 2014, S&P DID UPGRADE THE CITY FROM AN AA MINUS TO AN AA , BUT WE CONTINUE TO STAY IN AA THREE WITH MOODY'S, AND AGAIN, IF YOU LOOK AT THAT, IT IS THAT ITEM AND THE BELOW THE AA MINUS OF S&P AND THE AA THREE AND MOODY'S ARE THE EQUIVALENT OF THOSE CATEGORIES, AND AGAIN, WE'VE MOVED UP THERE'S STILL ROOM AS WE CONTINUE TO GROW.

THERE IS THAT ROOM THAT WE CAN CONTINUE, BUT I THINK THAT GROWTH AS IT RELATES TO BOND RATINGS HAPPENS NATURALLY.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T TRY TO FORCE, BUT IT HAPPENS NATURALLY AS A CITY GROWS AND THE POPULATION GROWS AND THE TAX BASE GROWS.

IT HAPPENS IN THAT IN THAT CYCLE.

MOODY'S DID COME BACK AS PART OF THEIR PRIMARY DECISIONS TO DO THE UPGRADE.

AGAIN, IT WAS A GROWING TAX BASE.

WE'VE CONTINUED TO SEE THAT GROWTH, HEALTHY FINANCIAL POSITION, AND THEN AGAIN, PLANNING FOR FUTURE GROWTH IS AN IMPORTANT PART THAT THEY LOOK AT.

THE CITY PENSION LIABILITY IS MANAGEABLE AND AGAIN PART OF OUR BUDGET, WE ARE ADDING A LITTLE BIT MORE INTO OUR TMRS THAT ALLOWS THE PENSION LIABILITY TO KIND OF GET FUNDED FROM A 24 YEAR TO A 20 YEAR, AND THAT WILL ALSO BE LOOKING IN REGARDS TO ALLOWING US TO BE ABLE TO CONTROL AND MANAGE THAT LIABILITY OVER A PERIOD OF TIME.

SO THE FIRST BOND SALE IS GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS, AND AGAIN, THIS KIND OF GIVES YOU THE SOURCES AND USES OF THIS BOND.

I REALLY LIKE TO SEE THAT SOURCE.

IT SHOWS YOU WHAT THE MONEY'S COMING IN AND HOW IT'S BEING SPENT OR HOW IT'S GOING TO BE USED, AND AGAIN, YOU SEE THAT $1.4 MILLION FOR THE PROJECT FUND.

YOU DO SEE ISSUE COST, AND AGAIN, IT'S LOOKING AT AND THEN NEXT TO IT IS THE AMORTIZATION OVER THE NEXT 20 YEARS FOR THAT BOND.

CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATIONS.

AGAIN, IT'S SELF-SUPPORTING DEBT.

YOU'VE GOT THE 4B, YOU'VE GOT THE TIF AND YOU'VE GOT THE WATER AND SEWER, AND AGAIN, IT'S ONE BOND ISSUE, BUT WITH THE HELP OF OUR BOND COUNCIL AND THE HELP OF OUR FINANCIAL ADVISORS, WE'RE ABLE TO BREAK IT DOWN AND SHOW WHAT THAT IMPACT IS GOING TO BE WITHIN EACH OF THOSE FUNDS AND SUPPORTING DEBT , AND AGAIN, THE BONDS ALWAYS USED FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS.

THE GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND WILL BE USED FOR THE PROJECTS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED IN FISCAL YEAR 22.

IT'S 1.4 MILLION, AND IT IS THE START OF GETTING READY FOR OUR DESIGNS AND WHATEVER THOSE PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED BY OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT.

THAT IS IT FOR MY PRESENTATION.

SO THE OPTIONS TODAY IS APPROVE OR DENY THE ORDINANCE AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF BOTH ORDINANCES FOR THE GENERAL OBLIGATIONS AND THE SALE OF THE CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATIONS.

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SO, MAYOR, AT THIS TIME, IF YOU COULD CALL FOR A MOTION ON ITEM SEVEN A, IS THERE A MOTION ON SEVEN A? I MOVE TO APPROVE ITEM SEVEN A.

COULD YOU USE THE VOTING SYSTEM? I HAVE A MOTION BY STANFORD AND A SECOND BY JOHNSON.

I'M SORRY, RONNY. PLEASE VOTE.

MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUS.

THEN IF YOU COULD MOVE ON TO SEVEN B.

I'M SORRY. IS THERE A MOTION ON SEVEN B? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

I'LL SECOND.

I GOT A MOTION BY GILLESPIE.

[CHUCKLING] I GOT A MOTION BY VICTORIA AND A SECOND, BY RICK.

PLEASE VOTE. SO, COUNCIL, IF YOU'LL TURN AROUND TO THE SCREEN THAT'S DISPLAYED TO EVERYBODY ELSE.

IT IS CORRECT, AND ON ON ALL THE VIDEO ALSO.

IT IS CORRECT, AND IT IS CORRECT ON MY CONTROL SCREEN OVER HERE, TOO.

SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOU ALL ARE SEEING IN FRONT OF YOU, BUT YOU ARE THE ONLY ONES SEEING THAT, AND THE REST OF THE PUBLIC HAS SEEN THE CORRECT.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU.

THAT IS THE LAST VOTING ITEM.

WELL, WE DO HAVE EXECUTIVE SESSION, BUT SO AT THIS POINT, THAT BRINGS US TO SECTION EIGHT REPORTS AND PRESENTATIONS.

[8A. Receive a report, hold a discussion, and give staff direction regarding digital billboard signs. (Staff Presenter: Tony D. McIlwain, Development Services Director)]

8A IS TO RECEIVE A REPORT, HOLD A DISCUSSION AND GIVE STAFF DIRECTION REGARDING DIGITAL BILLBOARD SIGNS.

THE STAFF PRESENTED TONIGHT IS TONI MCELWAIN, DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

MR. MCELWAIN.

THANK YOU, MS. CAMPOS.

MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

THIS IS A DISCUSSION ITEM THAT WE HAVE FOR YOUR ATTENTION REGARDING DIGITAL BILLBOARDS.

OKAY, THE CITY RECEIVES INFORMATION PROPOSAL, IF YOU WILL, FROM CLEAR CHANNEL OUTDOOR.

THEY ARE ONE OF THE WORLD'S LARGEST OUTDOOR ADVERTISING COMPANIES, AS WE HAVE ON THE SCREEN IN FRONT OF YOU.

THEY HAVE OVER 450,000 DISPLAYS IN MULTIPLE COUNTRIES AROUND THE WORLD.

HERE IN THE DFW AREA, THEY'RE THE NUMBER ONE DIGITAL DISPLAY PROVIDER.

SOME OF THE THINGS THEY THEY PROVIDE AS FAR AS OPTIONS ARE BILLBOARDS, DIGITAL BILLBOARDS, AIRPORT SIGNS AND OTHER ADVERTISING OPTIONS.

WE RECEIVED A PROPOSAL REGARDING AN OPPORTUNITY TO WORK TOGETHER WITH THE INSTALLATION OF TWO BILLBOARDS ON CITY OWNED PROPERTY.

SO IN OUR CODE OF ORDINANCES, BILLBOARDS ARE REFERRED TO AS PERMANENT OFF PREMISES SIGNS.

SO IF YOU SEE THAT IT'S USED INTERCHANGEABLY IN THE CONTEXT OF THIS PRESENTATION, ACCORDING TO THE PROPOSAL THAT WE RECEIVED BY CLEAR CHANNEL OUTDOOR, THE ENDEAVOR WILL, AS YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN, INCREASE AWARENESS OF CITY AMENITIES, IMPROVE CITY COMMUNICATION CAPABILITIES, AND PROVIDE ADDITIONAL AVENUES FOR EMERGENCY NOTIFICATIONS.

THAT'S THE BENEFIT THAT THEY TOUT WITH REGARD TO THE CITY.

THE TWO LOCATIONS THAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT THAT ARE THE CITY OWNED PROPERTIES ARE DENOTED BY THOSE STARS THAT YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN SITTING ON PROPERTY ALONG I-35 AND THEN THE OTHER ONE ALONG HIDDEN CREEK PARKWAY, AND A PROPOSAL ALLOWS FOR THE DEDICATION, TIME FOR ADVERTISEMENTS,

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FOR CITY PROMOTIONS AND PUBLIC SERVICE MESSAGES ON THE BILLBOARD.

THERE'S AT LEAST A POSSIBILITY OF REVENUE SHARING FOR THE PLACEMENT OF OFF PREMISES SIGNS ALSO ON THESE TWO CITY OWNED PROPERTIES.

THIS IS JUST A BLOW UP, IF YOU WILL, OF WHERE THE PROPOSALS ARE.

GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION THERE ON THOSE TWO MAP GRAPHICS THAT YOU HAVE ON THE SCREEN.

SO WITH REGARD TO HOW PERMANENT OFF PREMISES SIGNS ARE TREATED HERE IN OUR CODE, WE GIVE YOU SOME INFORMATION REGARDING DEFINITIONS.

WHAT IS THE OFF PREMISES SIGN? WHAT'S AN ELECTRONIC BILLBOARD? BUT THE KEY THING IS, SINCE SEPTEMBER OF 2002, THE CITY HAS PROHIBITED ANY NEW BILLBOARDS , BUT WE DO ALLOW YOU TO CONVERT AN EXISTING BILLBOARD TO A DIGITAL BILLBOARD.

YOU DON'T LOSE YOUR NONCONFORMING STATUS, SO YOU'RE STILL A NON NONCONFORMING SIGN, BUT IT DOES ALLOW SOME LATITUDE IF YOU'RE A BILLBOARD OWNER TO GO IN AND MAKE THAT CONVERSION TO A DIGITAL FORMAT, AND WE DO HAVE SOME REQUIREMENTS IN THE CODE AS IT RELATES TO THAT.

I FOUND A PRESENTATION FROM SEVERAL YEARS AGO WHERE STAFF CAME FORWARD AND GAVE A PRESENTATION TO COUNCIL.

AT THAT TIME WE HAD 55 LEGALLY NON-CONFORMING BILLBOARDS HERE IN THE CITY.

THAT NUMBER MAY HAVE CHANGED TO THE LESSER BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE DON'T PERMIT ANYMORE, BUT I INSERTED THAT INFORMATION HERE TO GIVE YOU SOME CONTEXT OF WHAT WE HAVE INSIDE THE CITY LIMITS. ALL OF THESE SIGNS ARE ELIGIBLE TO BE SWITCHED OUT TO A DIGITAL BILLBOARD FORMAT.

WE'VE NOT SEEN THAT HAPPEN IN GREAT REGULARITY, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COULD OCCUR, BUT YOU STILL HAVE THESE SIGN REQUIREMENTS THAT MUST MEET CITY CODES AS WELL. MOST SIGN PROVIDERS ARE WANTING TO GET ON TXDOT RIGHT OF WAY.

TXDOT HAS HEAVY SWAY AND DECISION PERMIT DECISION MAKING AS IT RELATES TO BILLBOARD SIGNS AS WELL.

WE DID SOME RESEARCH INTO SOME OF THE OTHER CITIES IN THE AREA THAT CLEAR CHANNEL PROVIDED IT TO US.

WE CONTACTED THEIR STAFFS BECAUSE THEY HAVE SIMILAR ARRANGEMENTS WITH CLEAR CHANNEL OUTDOOR.

GRAND PRAIRIE PROHIBITS OFF-PREMISES SIGNS, BUT CLEAR CHANNEL HAD A NUMBER OF SIGNS IN THE CITY ALREADY, AND THEY WERE ALLOWED TO CONVERT THESE TO ELECTRONIC MESSAGING SIGNS.

IT DID REQUIRE A CHANGE TO THE CODE.

CITY OF LEWISVILLE PROHIBITS PERMANENT OFF-SITE BILLBOARDS AS WELL.

EXCUSE ME, BUT THERE WAS A RIGHT OF WAY WIDENING PROJECT.

CLEAR CHANNEL HAD A NUMBER OF BILLBOARDS AND THE CITY SIGNED A RELOCATION AGREEMENT WITH THEM TO ALLOW THEM TO MOVE THEM OUT OF THE TXDOT RIGHT OF WAY TO OTHER AREAS IN THE CITY.

THAT INCLUDED REDUCING THE NUMBER OF BILLBOARDS OVERALL THAT CLEAR CHANNEL USE, AS WELL AS SOME OF THE DIMENSIONS OF THE SIGN FACES.

DUNCANVILLE ALSO ALLOWED A CONVERSION OF EXISTING BILLBOARDS TO ELECTRONIC MESSAGING BOARDS.

THIS AGAIN WAS TO THE BENEFIT OF CLEAR CHANNEL, AND THEN THE LAST ONE WE LOOKED AT AND TALKED TO WAS THE CITY OF IRVING.

THEY PROHIBITED BILLBOARDS A LITTLE BIT LONGER THAN BURLESON SINCE 1999.

THEY ALSO ALLOW A CONVERSION TO ELECTRONIC MESSAGING SIGNS.

SO WE ALLOW, AGAIN, THE SIMILAR OPPORTUNITY FOR ANYONE WHO OWNS A BILLBOARD TO CONVERT TO ELECTRONIC MESSAGING.

IF THE COUNCIL WAS SO MOVED TO CONSIDER PURSUING THIS, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IS THE CITY STAFF WOULD HAVE TO GO IN AND MAKE A SERIES OF TEXT AMENDMENTS TO ALLOW THE OCCURRENCE OF BILLBOARDS.

RIGHT NOW, WHILE THE CLEAR CHANNEL PROPOSAL IS JUST FOR CITY PROPERTY, WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO RESTRICT ANY NEW BILLBOARD OCCURRENCES TO ONLY CITY PROPERTY. WE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT AND INVESTIGATE ALLOWING BILLBOARDS, AND THEN WE COULD RESTRICT WHERE IN THE CITY YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE THESE, WHETHER THEY BE ON YOUR TXDOT RIGHTS OF WAY.

YOU CAN ALSO PUT IN DISTANCE REQUIREMENTS BETWEEN BILLBOARDS AND THINGS OF THE LIKE.

IF THE COUNCIL WAS SO MOVED TO DO THAT AND THEN THOSE AMENDMENTS WOULD COME BACK TO YOU FOR DISCUSSION AND ULTIMATE APPROVAL.

AS FAR AS THE SPECIFIC PROPOSAL, THE CITY IS NOT ALLOWED TO DIRECTLY DEAL WITH CLEAR CHANNEL OUTDOOR.

INSTEAD, WHAT WE WOULD HAVE TO DO IS TO ADVERTISE FOR A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS AND THAT WOULD ALLOW ANY INTERESTED PROVIDER TO COME IN AND SUBMIT TO THE CITY A PLAN FOR USE OF THE PROPERTY TO TWO PROPERTIES IN QUESTION FOR BILLBOARD SIGNS, AND THEN IN THE COURSE OF THAT DISCUSSION, IF WE WERE TO WORK UP AN AGREEMENT, WE WOULD NOT BE TO VIOLATE EXISTING PROVISIONS OF THE SIGN CODE AND CLEAR CHANNEL WOULD BE SUBJECT TO THE SAME PROCESS AS OTHER INTERESTED

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PARTIES. SO WE'RE SEEKING YOUR DIRECTION REGARDING NEXT STEPS IN THE PROCESS, IF YOU ARE INTERESTED.

STAFF WILL BEGIN THE PROCESS OF LOOKING AT TEXT AMENDMENTS.

OBVIOUSLY, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, YOU WOULD SEE AN OCCURRENCE OF AN UPTICK IN BILLBOARD APPLICATIONS IF YOU'RE NOT INTERESTED.

THAT'S FINE. WE WOULD JUST DROP THE MATTER TONIGHT.

SO WE'RE JUST SEEKING YOUR DIRECTION AS TO HOW YOU LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE BILLBOARD.

MR. MAYOR, THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS JUST FOR A SECOND.

THIS WAS ONE OF MY PROJECTS, AND I WANT TO HATS OFF TO CLEAR CHANNEL AND THE FACT THAT THEY WERE GOING TO BUILD THIS, THEY WERE GOING TO DO EVERYTHING IN THEY ASK OF EVERYTHING.

THEY WERE GOING TO DO EVERYTHING WE ASK.

I DIDN'T WANT IT TO LOOK LIKE AN UGLY BILLBOARD SIGN.

SO THEY WERE GOING TO DO MASONRY.

IT WAS GOING TO BE THREE-SIDED.

IT WAS GOING TO HAVE A THIRD SIGN FACING THE GOLF COURSE, THE WHOLE BIT, AND THEN I SPOKE TONY AND IT OPENS THE DOOR UP FOR MORE BILLBOARDS. NOW, WHAT CLEAR CHANNEL HAD OFFERED IS A PERCENTAGE OF THE REVENUE ON AN ANNUAL BASIS, I BELIEVE, AND WE WOULD LOSE ALL OF THAT IN 20 YEARS.

SO WHERE I'M AT ON THIS NOW, I DON'T WANT TO OPEN THIS UP TO OTHER BILLBOARDS.

YOU KNOW, THIS IS A PROJECT OF MINE THAT'S NOT WORKING OUT, AND I'M FINE WITH THAT AND I WON'T COMMENT FROM EVERYBODY ELSE, BUT I DON'T WANT UGLY BILLBOARDS, BUT I SURE DON'T WANT MORE BILLBOARDS GOING UP WITH US NOT BEING ABLE TO STOP THEM, AND I DON'T WANT TO DO SOMETHING THAT CITY DOES THAT OTHER PEOPLE CAN'T DO.

SO IF ANYBODY'S GOT ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THIS.

I DO. SO THERE WAS A THERE WAS TALK IN THE PAST ABOUT PUTTING SIGNAGE IN THE PLAZA AND THERE WAS CONCERNS ABOUT THE PROCESS OF THOSE SIGNAGE. I SHARED AT THAT TIME A THOUGHT AND MAYBE ALLOWING SOME ADVERTISING, I THINK IT WAS COUNCILMEMBER MCCLINTON, AND THAT BROUGHT UP SOME VERY VALID POINTS THAT IF WE ALLOW ADVERTISING ON THESE SIGNS, THAT WE DON'T HAVE A WAY TO RESTRICT THE ADVERTISING.

I THINK THE FIRST AMENDMENT IN OUR CONSTITUTION SAYS SOMETHING ABOUT FREEDOM OF SPEECH, AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S ANYTHING OUR ATTORNEYS WERE WILLING TO BATTLE ON.

SO I'M VERY RELUCTANT TO ALLOW SIGNAGE OF ANY KIND ON THE CITY PROPERTY, AND I THINK, DAN, FOR BRINGING THAT OUT IN THE PAST, I BELIEVE IT WAS YOU THAT SHARED THAT WITH ME, BUT I'M AGAINST THAT JUST BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY COULD PUT OUT.

I MEAN, WE'VE STILL GOT A BILLBOARD DOWN 35, I THINK PEOPLE ARE NOT HAPPY WITH THAT COULD WIND UP ON CITY PROPERTY VERY EASILY.

AND SO I'M AGAINST ANY BILLBOARD OR ANY ADVERTISING DONE ON CITY PROPERTY.

CAN YOU ADDRESS THAT? I MEAN, IT'S I KNOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PLAZA, BUT WE ALSO HAVE OUR SIGN AT ALSBURY 174 AND 35 THAT WE'RE GOING TO REDO. I WOULD LIKE TO CONSIDER PUTTING A DIGITAL ON THAT FOR CITIES STRICTLY NO, THAT'S NO INCOME.

YEAH. AS LONG AS WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT TRYING TO LEASE IT OFF FOR ADVERTISING, BUT WE NEED SOME WAY TO BETTER COMMUNICATE WITH OUR CITIZENS, AND THAT'S A PROJECT WE GOT GOING TO PUT DIGITAL ON IT.

YOU'RE SAYING WE'RE OKAY AND IF WE COULD INCREASE IT, THAT'D BE EVEN BETTER, BUT THAT'S OUR GATEWAY, NOT JUST TO BURLESON, BUT IT'S THE JOSHUA, CLEAVER AND ALL THOSE ROADS THAT FEED OFF TO IT TO LET PEOPLE KNOW WE HAVE ELECTIONS GOING ON.

THE HOT SOUNDS OF SUMMER'S WELCOMING A BUSINESS TO BURLESON YOU KNOW, WHEN COVID WAS COMING IT WAS A GREAT PLACE TO PUT IT, RIGHT? THEY'RE SAYING COVID SHOTS HERE, TESTING HERE.

IT'S WE NEED BETTER COMMUNICATION, AND I UNDERSTAND EVERYBODY SAYS FACEBOOK AND SOCIAL MEDIA IS THE WAY TO GO.

NOT EVERYBODY SEES THAT WE NEED A BETTER WAY TO DO THAT, AND SO I WANT TO ASK US TO ASK THAT WE REALLY CONSIDER DOING A BILLBOARD ON IT. THE SAFETY ISSUE HAS GONE AWAY ESPECIALLY FOR WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING.

IT'S GOING TO BE A STATIC SIGN POPPING UP THERE FOR A LITTLE WHILE.

THEN IT MOVES ON.

THE DAMAGE, ACCORDING TO JAKE SMITH AT THE BILLBOARD COMPANY.

IT'S WHEN YOU RUN VIDEOS AND YOU GET LOCKED INTO THE VIDEO, THAT'S WHEN YOU HAVE THE WRECK.

THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR, BUT WE HAVE POOR COMMUNICATION WITH OUR CITIZENS SOMETIMES, AND WE THINK THEY'RE GOING TO GO TO THE COMPUTER TO LOOK THIS UP.

MAN, SOMETIMES YOU JUST STICK THE INFORMATION IN FRONT OF THEM.

WE NEED TO GET OUR ELECTION NUMBERS UP AND I THINK WE COULD DO A BETTER JOB WITH THAT.

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IF THIS WORKS OUT, WE MIGHT LOOK AT SOME OTHER AREAS TO PUT SOME MORE, BUT THAT'S A QUICK WAY TO GET A MESSAGE OUT TO EVEN THE AMBER ALERTS, I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN TIE IN TO THAT, BUT TO HAVE THAT OUT THERE, WE'VE HAD SEVERAL SITUATIONS WHERE WE NEED TO LET PEOPLE KNOW SOMETHING WAS GOING ON IN OUR TOWN.

IT'S A SMALL SEGMENT OF THE TOWN, BUT IT'S A LOT OF TRAFFIC.

SO THAT'S WHERE I STAND ON THAT.

IF WE COULD JUST GO FORWARD WITH THAT, BUT BACK TO THE ORIGINAL QUESTION, DO WE WANT TO PROCEED WITH THE LARGE DIGITAL SIGN? I WOULDN'T BE FOR CHANGING CHAPTER 63, AND I DON'T WANT TO SEE A FLOOD OF SIGNS COME IN, SO I WOULD BE OPPOSED TO IT.

MAYOR, I'M SORRY.

I WANT TO APPLAUD YOU FOR BEING CREATIVE BECAUSE THIS WAS A CREATIVE CONCEPT, TRYING TO FIND ANOTHER WAY TO FUND THIS PROJECT.

BUT I TOO HAVE THE DUAL CONCERN.

I DON'T WANT TO OPEN THIS UP TO OUR CITY BECOMING ONE BIG, GIANT ELECTRONIC BILLBOARD, AND THE FACT IS THAT WE WILL STILL HAVE NO CONTROL OVER AND SAY OVER WHO CAN ADVERTISE ON OUR PROPERTY.

EVERYBODY ON BOARD. TONY, SHUT HER DOWN.

YES, SIR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

[8B. Receive a report, hold a discussion, and give staff direction regarding renovation options for City Hall. (Staff Presenter: Tommy Ludwig, Deputy City Manager)]

THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM 8B RECEIVE A REPORT, HOLD A DISCUSSION AND GIVE STAFF DIRECTION REGARDING RENOVATION OPTIONS FOR CITY HALL.

THE STAFF PRESENTED TONIGHT IS TOMMY LUDWIG, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER.

THANK YOU, AMANDA. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

BEFORE I GO INTO THE PRESENTATION, I DO WANT TO SAY THAT NORMALLY ERIC WOULD BE UP HERE THIS EVENING, BUT HE'S OFF CARRYING HIS OLDEST CHILD TO COLLEGE.

SO HE'S MOVING THEM IN. SO BUT HE PUT A LOT OF HARD WORK INTO THAT AND INTO THE PRESENTATION.

WITH THAT SAID, IF IT GOES WELL, I'LL TAKE FULL CREDIT AND IF IT GOES POORLY, I'M GOING TO BLAME HIM.

[CHUCKLING] SO TONIGHT I'M GOING TO WALK THROUGH A FEW OPTIONS FOR POTENTIAL RENOVATION OF THIS FACILITY, AND WE REALLY ARE LOOKING FOR COUNCIL'S DIRECTION ON WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE HAPPEN IN THIS FACILITY.

SO REALLY WHAT'S DRIVING THE DRIVING THE NEED FOR RENOVATION AND THIS BUILDING IS WE HAVE SOME FOLKS THAT ARE GOING TO BE MOVING OUT AND SOME OTHER FOLKS THAT ARE BE MOVING IN AND THE USES ARE NOT THE SAME.

AND THE ADJACENCIES MAY NO LONGER MAKE SENSE IN THIS BUILDING.

SO SPECIFICALLY, YOU HAVE DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT, UTILITY BILLING, CUSTOMER SERVICE AS WELL AS PUBLIC WORKS ENGINEERING THAT ARE GOING TO BE MOVING OUT OF THIS FACILITY AND MOVING INTO ELLISON STREET AND THEN ANNEX TWO, YOU HAVE PUBLIC WORKS CAPITAL SIDE THAT ARE ALSO GOING TO BE MOVING INTO ELLISON STREET.

THE VACATED SPACE WILL THEN BE TAKEN ON BY INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY AND BY HUMAN RESOURCES, WHO WILL ALSO BE MOVING OUT OF ANNEX TWO INTO THIS FACILITY.

IF YOU RECALL, ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS OF OUR 380 AGREEMENT FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF ELLISON IS THAT AFTER ONE YEAR OF THE ISSUANCE OF CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY, WE WOULD NEED TO DEMOLISH THE ANNEX TWO FACILITY.

SO THAT'S KIND OF A SUMMARY OF THE MOVEMENTS OF STAFF.

FROM A FUNDING STANDPOINT, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF ELIGIBLE FUNDING SOURCES.

THERE WAS ORIGINALLY $204,000 THAT WAS SET ASIDE TO PAY FOR A PORTION OF THIS RENOVATION IN CASH.

THERE'S $120,000 IN PEG FUNDING THAT WOULD BE ELIGIBLE SHOULD WE PROCEED WITH AN OPTION THAT WOULD INCLUDE A STUDIO FOR OUR FOLKS.

THERE'S ALSO PROPOSED CASH FUNDING OF $1.5 MILLION IN THE ADDITIONAL CAPITAL PROJECTS FUNDING AS WELL AS CONTINGENCY FROM ELLISON STREET, WE HAVE ABOUT $600,000 IN CONTINGENCY ASSOCIATED WITH THE VERTICAL CONSTRUCTION OF THAT BUILDING.

I DO ANTICIPATE WE'LL USE A PORTION OF THAT, BUT I DOUBT THAT WE WILL USE ALL OF THAT $600,000.

SO COLLECTIVELY, IF YOU LOOK ALL ACROSS THAT, YOU HAVE A LITTLE OVER $2.4 MILLION IN FUNDING THAT WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR CITY HALL RENOVATION.

IF YOU RECALL, IN FEBRUARY, COUNCIL APPROVED A CONTRACT WITH BRINKLEY SARGENT TO PERFORM SOME PRELIMINARY CONCEPTUAL DESIGN OF WHAT THIS SPACE COULD LOOK LIKE AND HOW WE COULD POTENTIALLY RENOVATE IT.

WE ASKED FOR THREE SPECIFIC OPTIONS KIND OF A BASE OPTION, A MID-LEVEL OPTION, THEN A FULL SCALE RENOVATION OF THIS FACILITY, AND ONE OF THE PRIMARY COMPONENTS OF THEIR WORK IS REALLY TO COME IN AND LOOK AT A NEEDS ASSESSMENT.

SO THEY DID AN IN-DEPTH INTERVIEW WITH ALL THE END USERS OF INDIVIDUALS THAT WOULD BE IN CITY HALL.

SO CURRENTLY THE FOLKS THAT WILL BE HERE AND THEN THE FOLKS THAT WILL BE MOVING IN AND THEY WERE LOOKING AT WHAT ARE YOUR NEEDS FROM A STAFFING STANDPOINT IN THE NEXT 7 TO 10 YEARS, AND SO THEY TOOK THAT INFORMATION, LOOKED AT SQUARE FOOTAGE, AND THEY LOOKED AT HOW BEST THEY COULD ACCOMMODATE ALL THE MOVEMENT OF STAFF, AND I DO WANT TO STRESS THAT IN EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE SCENARIOS THAT I'M GOING TO PUT BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING, STAFF DOES NOT ANTICIPATE THAT THE LIFE OF CITY HALL WILL EXTEND BEYOND TEN YEARS OF THIS BUILDING BASED ON OUR PROJECTED GROWTH.

SO WHETHER IT'S THE BASE OPTION OR WHETHER IT'S THE FULL SCALE RENOVATION, IF YOU DID A FULL SCALE RENOVATION OF THIS BUILDING, WE DON'T THINK YOU WOULD GET BEYOND TEN YEARS IN

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IT BASED ON OUR PROJECTED STAFFING LEVELS.

BEFORE I GO THROUGH THE THREE OPTIONS, I DO WANT TO STRESS THAT THERE ARE A FEW STATIC COSTS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN ALL OF THESE.

SO HVAC IS A LARGE COMPONENT.

THERE'S ABOUT $226,000 WORTH OF HVAC COSTS THAT ARE IN ALL THREE OF THESE OPTIONS.

AS WE LOOK THROUGH WHAT THE BUILDING WAS GOING TO LOOK LIKE IN TEN YEARS, WE LOOKED AT THE MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT AND WHAT WOULD NEED TO BE REPLACED OVER THAT TIME HORIZON.

SO THOSE COSTS ARE FACTORED IN.

WE DID FACTOR IN A 12% CONTINGENCY, ABOUT A 6.7% COST FOR INFLATIONARY ADJUSTMENTS BY THE TIME THAT WE ACTUALLY BRING THIS THING FORWARD FOR CONSTRUCTION.

THERE'S ALSO A SMALL AMOUNT OF FF&E.

THE INTENTION WOULD BE TO UTILIZE THE MAJORITY OF THE EXISTING FURNITURE HERE AS STAFF VACATES AND MOVES TO ELLISON BECAUSE IF YOU ALL RECALL, YOU APPROVE A NEW FURNITURE PURCHASE AT OUR LAST COUNCIL MEETING.

THERE'S LIKELY GOING TO BE SOME FURNITURE THAT WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO BE UTILIZED.

SO AND THE FIRST TWO OPTIONS I PRESENT TO YOU, THERE'S ABOUT $70,000 WORTH OF FF&E INCLUDED IN THAT.

WE MAY OR MAY NOT NEED IT, BUT THAT WAS THE NUMBER THAT WAS INCLUDED THERE.

SO WITH THAT SAID, I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THE INDIVIDUAL OPTIONS.

SO OPTION ONE INCLUDES AGAIN, DESIGN, CONSTRUCTION, FF&E, HVAC, THAT'S A TOTAL OF $1.3 MILLION IN ESTIMATE.

AGAIN, I WANT TO STRESS THESE ARE NOT BID NUMBERS.

OBVIOUSLY, WE HAVE TO BID THAT OUT.

HOPEFULLY, THAT WOULD COME IN BETTER THAN WHAT WE'VE PROJECTED, BUT THAT'S OUR BEST ESTIMATE.

SO WHAT THIS INCLUDES IS IT PROVIDES BASICALLY FOR THE DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE COMING IN, YOU'VE GOT HUMAN RESOURCES AND YOU'VE GOT INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY.

SO IF YOU LOOK TO THE RIGHT OF THE SCREEN AS YOU COME IN TO THE FRONT DOOR OF CITY HALL, THAT WOULD BE YOUR HUMAN RESOURCE AREA.

SO THAT'D BE A COMPLETE RENOVATION OF WHAT IS NOW UTILITY BUILDING AND BUILDING INSPECTION THAT WOULD BE TOTALLY RENOVATED AND RECONSTRUCTED FOR AIR.

TO THE LEFT IS WHERE DEVELOPMENT AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS TODAY.

THAT WOULD LARGELY REMAIN AS IT IS.

SO IT WOULD COME OVER ESSENTIALLY UTILIZE EXISTING SPACE.

WE HAVE THE TWO RESTROOMS POINTED OUT HERE, A PROPOSED RENOVATION OF EACH OF THOSE SO PUBLIC FACING AS WELL AS THE STAFF RESTROOMS. THAT'S 50,000 FOR EACH.

SO $100,000 COLLECTIVELY IS $1.3 MILLION.

SO AND I WOULD SAY IN BOTH OF THOSE SCENARIOS, YOU ARE PROVIDING FOR TEN YEARS WORTH OF GROWTH FOR HR, AND FOR INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY.

IF YOU GO TO OPTION TWO THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE BUILDING FOR HR IS ESSENTIALLY REMAINS UNCHANGED.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE I.T SPACE, THAT I.T AREA HAS SHRUNK FAIRLY CONSIDERABLY BECAUSE YOU'RE ACCOMMODATING GROWTH FOR A STUDIO FOR OUR PIO GROUP AS WELL AS AN OFFICE AREA FOR THEM.

THAT WOULD PROVIDE TEN YEARS OF SPACE FOR PIO, TEN YEARS OF SPACE FOR HR.

ON THE IT SIDE, IT IS A FAIRLY DRASTIC FOOTPRINT REDUCTION.

WHAT I WOULD SAY THERE IS THAT LIKELY IF WE WERE GOING TO PROCEED WITH THIS SCENARIO, WE WOULD BE LOOKING TO LEVERAGE SOME WORK FROM HOME MODEL FOR SOME OF OUR FOLKS THAT CAN DO THAT. I THINK THE OTHER THING TOO IS THAT WE'D ALSO BE LOOKING TO LEVERAGE SOME WORKSPACE AREA AT STATION TWO RIGHT NOW IT HAS A SPACE IN THE PARKS ANNEX THAT THEY WORK ON, COMPUTERS TAKE DELIVERIES, AND SO WE WOULD BE SHIFTING THAT HERE IN THIS SCENARIO.

AGAIN, SAME THING WITH THE RESTROOMS; THERE'D BE A RENOVATION OF THOSE.

UP AT THE TOP, YOU'LL NOTICE AN AREA IN PURPLE.

I KNOW THAT SAYS COUNCIL'S OFFICE AND I KNOW THAT AMANDA RECENTLY HAS MADE SOME MODIFICATIONS TO HER SPACE TO ACCOUNT FOR SOME WORKSPACE AND A COUNCIL OFFICE IN HER AREA.

THINK OF THIS AS JUST AN ADDITIONAL OFFICE.

IT COULD BE FLEX SPACE. IT COULD CERTAINLY BE A COUNCIL SPACE.

IT COULD BE A FUTURE STAFF SPACE.

IT'S JUST AN ADDITIONAL OFFICE.

THERE'S SOME AREA UP IN THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE.

THERE ARE SOME PROPOSED CHANGES WITH THIS, BUT IT'S MORE RELOCATION OF OFFICE SPACE.

SO DEANNA WOULD BE LEAVING AND GOING TO THE AREA.

WE WOULD SHIFT BRIAN OVER INTO HER SPACE.

BRIAN'S OFFICE WILL BECOME A LARGE CONFERENCE ROOM.

MATT WOULD MOVE TO WHERE COLLIN SITS AT TODAY.

JUSTIN SCHARNHORST, WHO REPORTS TO MATT, WOULD MOVE AND TAKE MARCUS' SPACE.

I WOULD STAY WHERE I'M CURRENTLY AT AND THE AREA WHERE MATT IS AT NOW WOULD BE EITHER A SMALL OFFICE CONFERENCE SPACE OR A FUTURE OFFICE, AND AGAIN, THIS WOULD HAVE THOSE SAME COST IN THEIR HVAC, FF& E AND DESIGN AND OPTION THREE IS A SUBSTANTIAL COST.

IT DOES PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL SPACE FOR AMANDA'S AREA, AS WELL AS MARTIN'S AREA AT A COST OF $6.3 MILLION.

FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE, WE WOULD NOT RECOMMEND THIS.

WE WANT TO SHOW IT TO YOU BECAUSE IT WAS PREPARED BY THE ARCHITECT.

WITH THAT SAID, IT DOESN'T NET US ANY MORE SPACE.

IF THIS WAS GOING TO NET US ANOTHER TEN YEARS IN THE BUILDING, AND MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO CONSIDER, BUT IT DOESN'T.

SO WITH THAT SAID, FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE, WE WOULD NOT RECOMMEND OPTION THREE.

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TIMELINE WISE, DEPENDING ON THE DIRECTION WE RECEIVE FROM COUNCIL TO SAVING.

OUR INTENTION WOULD BE TO BRING AN ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN CONTRACT BACK IN SEPTEMBER.

BASED ON THAT AND SPEAKING WITH BRINKLEY SARGENT, WE ANTICIPATE THAT WE COULD HAVE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS PREPARED AND BID BY APRIL WITH CONSTRUCTION BEGINNING IN EARLY SUMMER, WE ANTICIPATE WE COULD MOVE PEOPLE IN BY THE END OF DECEMBER.

I MEAN FINISH CONSTRUCTION BY END OF DECEMBER AND BEGIN MOVING IN STAFF BY JANUARY 2024.

WITH THAT SAID, I KNOW THAT'S A LOT OF INFORMATION.

I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE REGARDING THESE OPTIONS , AND WHEN ALL YOUR DESIGNS, YOU'VE GOT LOCATIONS FOR DEPARTMENTS, ARE THEY ON BOARD WITH THE DESIGNS? THAT'S AN EXCELLENT QUESTION. WHAT I WOULD TELL YOU IS, IS THAT THESE WERE CONCEPTUAL RENDERINGS BASED ON THEIR SPACE.

SHOULD COUNCIL GIVE US DIRECTION TO GO WITH EITHER OPTION ONE OR OPTION TWO? WE WOULD ENGAGE BRINKLEY SARGENT, AND THEY WOULD ACTUALLY DO FORMAL ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN.

SO IN GENERAL, I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR THE SPECIFIC DEPARTMENTS, BUT THEY DID GO THROUGH THEY INDICATED THEIR SPACE NEEDS AND THEIR ADJACENCY NEEDS.

SO I THINK THIS LARGELY MEETS THEIR NEEDS, BUT THESE ARE CONCEPTUAL AND DO NOT REFLECT THE ACTUAL ARCHITECTURAL DOCUMENTS.

GO BACK TO THE DRAWINGS. GO TO ONE.

YES, SIR, AND GO BACK TO TWO SO EVERYBODY CAN SEE.

SO HERE'S ONE.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? EVERYBODY'S BEING REAL QUIET HERE.

WHERE'S PIO IN THIS? SO OPTION ONE PIO DOESN'T MOVE.

WE DON'T CREATE A STUDIO SPACE FOR THEM.

THEY STAY IN THIS BACK AREA WHERE THEY ARE TODAY, AND THEN IN OPTION TWO MAYOR PRO TEM, THERE WOULD BE THAT SPACE IN YELLOW WHERE THE IT SPACE IS SHRUNK TO ACCOMMODATE THAT RELOCATION.

RIGHT. I WAS SEEING THAT. I JUST DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THE PLAN WAS.

IF WE WENT WITH OPTION ONE.

THE LARGEST DIFFERENCE THERE IS JUST THAT THE BETWEEN OPTION ONE AND OPTION TWO IS THE PRIMARY DRIVING FORCE.

THERE IS THE CREATION OF THAT STUDIO SPACE.

SO IN OPTION ONE, WE DON'T INCLUDE THAT.

I'M SORRY. I'M SURE IT'LL BE DISCUSSED AT SOME POINT IN THE PROCEEDINGS HERE, BUT I LIKE THE IDEA OF ADDING SUPPORT TO THE PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICE.

I THINK DEANNA AND HER GROUP ARE DOING AN OUTSTANDING JOB AND I'D LIKE TO SUPPORT THAT EFFORT, BUT THAT'S BY FAR NOT THE SOLE CONSIDERATION HERE.

SO WHICH ONE ARE YOU FOR THEN? ONE OR TWO? WELL, THAT SAID, THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ARGUMENT, THE MORE TELLING SIDE IS THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING MAJOR INNOVATION TO A BUILDING THAT IS ALREADY PROBABLY ON THE CHOPPING BLOCK IN SOME FORM OR ANOTHER.

I THINK WE'RE ALL REALISTIC ENOUGH TO KNOW THAT OUR SPACE NEEDS AND THE SIZE OF THE CITY AS IT GROWS WILL LEAD TO THE ULTIMATE RELOCATION OF CITY HALL, AND I THINK THE TEN YEAR TIME FRAME IS ON THE SHORT SIDE OF WHEN THAT MIGHT HAPPEN, BUT NOT UNREALISTICALLY SHORT.

SO I THINK I WOULD SHY AWAY FROM THE IDEA OF SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY ON THIS BUILDING JUST SIMPLY BECAUSE WE KNOW THERE WILL BE A COMPLETE BUILDING COMPLEX PROBABLY IN THE FUTURE.

I DON'T KNOW WHEN, BUT IT IS NOT OUR INTENTION TO STAY ON THIS FOOTPRINT FOREVER, AND I THINK IT'LL BE TO THE CITY'S ADVANTAGE IN A BIG WAY THAT THIS THIS SIDE OF THE PLAZA REDEVELOPED AT SOME POINT IN TIME WHENEVER THE MARKET'S THERE FOR IT.

AND WE TRANSITIONED THE SPACE ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE PLAZA TO PRIVATE USE AND RELOCATE OURSELVES TO A LARGER COMPLEX SOMEWHERE.

IT'S JUST ALL PART OF THE EVOLUTION OF THINGS, BUT WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN OPTION ONE AND OPTION TO, WE KNOW WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING.

IT'S NOT A HUGE JUMP TO JUMP FROM NOTHING TO OPTION ONE IS ABOUT THE SAME AS THE JUMP FROM OPTION ONE TO OPTION TWO.

I'M IN THE OPTION TWO MINDSET AT THE MOMENT, BUT I'M MORE THAN WILLING TO HEAR OTHER OPINIONS.

MY QUESTION HAS TO DO WITH OPTION TWO.

AS FAR AS THE PIO AREA.

NOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT A TEN YEAR WINDOW ON THAT, AND, YOU KNOW, AT THE MOST AND OUR AREA DEFINITELY NEEDS WE DEFINITELY NEED SOMETHING FOR OUR PILLOW BETTER THAN WHAT WE HAVE THAN WHERE WE HAVE THEM RIGHT NOW.

MY QUESTION, THOUGH, IS WE'RE GETTING READY TO OPEN SOME NEW BUILDINGS.

WE'RE GETTING READY TO MOVE STUFF AROUND.

DOES PIO HAVE TO STAY HERE.

CAN WE ACTUALLY BUILD THEM SOMETHING NICE IN ONE OF THESE NEW FACILITIES WE'RE GOING TO REOPEN? COUNCILMEMBER STANFORD I THINK THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

WHAT I WOULD SAY IS THAT ACROSS THE STREET IN ELLISON, WE HAVE ABOUT 12,000 SQUARE FEET OF SPACE.

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WHAT I WOULD SAY IS, IS THAT BASED ON THE NUMBER OF STAFF THAT ARE MOVING IN ACROSS THE STREET FROM [INAUDIBLE], WE'VE GOT ABOUT 7 TO 8 AVAILABLE SPACES FOR FUTURE GROWTH THERE.

THERE WOULDN'T BE SUFFICIENT AREA BASED ON THE CURRENT LAYOUT TO INCORPORATE A STUDIO FOR THEM AND ELSE AND BUILDING.

IF YOU WERE GOING TO CREATE ANOTHER SPACE, I THINK IT WOULD BE MORE COST PROHIBITIVE THAN TO RENOVATE THE EXISTING AREA, BUT IF IT WAS THE DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL TO LOOK AT OTHER ALTERNATIVES TO POTENTIALLY LEASE A SPACE, I THINK WE COULD DO THAT.

I WAS JUST CURIOUS IF THERE WAS ROOM TO MOVE THEM OVER THERE AND THEN, YOU KNOW, SHUFFLE THE DECK ON YOU, BUT I MEAN, IF IT MEANS MOVING ONE PARTICULAR OFFICE HERE INTO THEIR LITTLE SPACE AND I THINK FROM A NET SQUARE FOOTAGE, YOU KNOW, WHETHER WHO GOES OVER THERE OR WHO COMES BACK, THERE'S INSUFFICIENT SPACE TO ACCOMMODATE THEIR NEEDS ACROSS THE STREET. GOT IT. DIDN'T WE ALSO ALREADY ORDER FF&E FOR THE BUILDING? YEAH I MEAN, WE'VE MOVED FORWARD WITH FF&E FOR THAT AS WELL.

WE'RE ALREADY KIND OF COMMITTED TO THAT LAYOUT AS WE ARE RIGHT NOW.

THE OTHER THING I WAS JUST GOING TO OFFER IS THE PIO SPACE WE WERE LOOKING AT IS A DEDICATED STUDIO SPACE AS WELL FOR VIDEOS, PROGRAMING THAT WOULD HAVE SOME SPECIALTY SPACE THAT WOULD TYPICALLY FIT JUST IN A REGULAR OFFICE.

THERE ARE SOME SPECIAL SOUND BARRIER EQUIPMENT AND THINGS LIKE THAT WOULD BE IN THERE.

SO I'M VERY HAPPY TO SEE YOU ADDING THE CARD ACCESS CONTROL TO THE CHAMBER.

I THINK THAT'S VERY SMART.

I'M GOING TO NITPICK FOR JUST A SECOND AND SAY IT'S GOING TO COST YOU ABOUT 100 GRAND PER BATHROOM TO REDO THE BATHROOMS, AND I CHECKED THEM OUT TODAY AND I WAS LIKE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT BAD. I WAS IN TWO DIFFERENT CITY HALLS OVER THE LAST MONTH IN LARGE CITIES WHO HAVE HIDEOUS BATHROOMS COMPARED TO US.

I DEFINITELY COULD SEE WHERE WE COULD CHANGE OUT MIRRORS.

I THINK THERE'S WAYS TO SPRUCE THINGS UP WITHOUT HAVING TO KNOCK OUT ALL THE TILE AND IT COSTS AS MUCH MONEY AS IT'S GOING TO COST.

I LITERALLY JUST WENT IN THERE AND IF I WERE TAKING OVER THE SPACE, I WOULD CHANGE OUT ALL THE FAUCETS, GET ALL NEW FREESTANDING MIRRORS, YOU KNOW, CLEAN UP THE TILE.

IT LOOKS LIKE IT NEEDS A REALLY GOOD CLEANING ON THE GROUND, BUT THEIR BATHROOMS. YES, MA'AM. THEY'RE NOT OFFICE SPACE.

THEY'RE BATHROOMS AND NOTHING'S FALLING OFF THE WALLS, YOU KNOW? YEAH. YOU CAN GO INTO CERTAIN PLACES AND THEY HAVE THE AUTOMATIC FLUSHING TOILETS, BUT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE SOME OF YOU HAVE THEM AT YOUR HOME.

I DOUBT IT, BUT WE'RE ALL USED TO FLUSHING THE TOILET.

I JUST FIND THAT TO BE EXORBITANT AS WELL AS I THINK THE OFFICE THAT WE'VE BEEN PROVIDED NOW IN THE CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE IS PHENOMENAL.

SO I DON'T SEE WASTING 10 TO $15000 ON BUILDING ANOTHER COUNCIL OFFICE WHEN WE'RE HARDLY ANYBODY EVER, EVER UP HERE ANYWAY NEEDING IT.

SO, YES, MA'AM.

AGAIN, I'M BEING NIT PICKY, BUT I FEEL LIKE EVERY LITTLE BIT COUNTS, AND I THINK IF WE WERE LONG TERMING THIS BUILDING, I WOULD SAY LET'S SPEND THE MONEY, BUT WE'RE NOT LONG TERM, AND SO IT CONCERNS ME THAT WE WOULD SPEND MONEY ON RESTROOMS THAT ARE NOT FALLING APART. SO IF YOU END UP DOING THE RESTROOMS, I'LL TAKE THE STALL WALLS BECAUSE THEY'RE BETTER THAN WHAT I HAVE IN MY OFFICE.

I MEAN, HONESTLY, THAT'S GREAT FEEDBACK, AND I THINK WHAT I WOULD SAY TOO IS THAT WE COULD ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, IF YOU DESIGN THAT, WE COULD ALWAYS BID IT AS AN ADDED ALTERNATE, SEE WHAT PRICING COMES BACK, AND THEN IF THE COUNCIL ELECTS THAT, THEY WOULD LIKE TO PROCEED WITH IT.

YOU COULD, AND IF YOU DON'T, YOU DON'T, BUT THAT MIGHT BE AN OPTION OF PREPARING LIKE WE WOULD AND THEN SEE WHAT THE PRICING COMES BACK AS.

I'M KIND OF IN THE MIDDLE OF ONE AND TWO.

I AGREE LIKE THE, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW IF IT WOULD MAKE THAT MUCH OF A DIFFERENCE TO SAY LIKE A COUNCIL OFFICE OR THIS ADDITIONAL CONFERENCE ROOM PUTTING UP THESE WALLS. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT REALLY MAKES OR BREAKS THE DOLLAR AMOUNT, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO ADD IN MY SUPPORT OF THE PUBLIC INFORMATION AREA IS IMPORTANT AND AS OF RIGHT NOW, STAFF'S LIKE PUTTING IT UP AND PACKING IT BACK AWAY AND THEY'RE PRODUCING SOME REALLY GREAT VIDEOS AND CLIPS AND PICTURES AND THINGS, BUT WE'RE ASKING THEM TO SQUEEZE A LOT INTO A SMALL SPACE.

AND SO I THINK THAT THEY COULD BE MUCH MORE PRODUCTIVE AND EFFICIENT IF THEIR SPACE ACTUALLY WAS BUILT TO MANAGE THAT AND HAVE A STUDIO SPACE FOR ANY OF THE RECORDINGS THAT WE DO FOR THE COMMUNITY AND INFORMATION THAT WE'RE PUSHING OUT TO CONTINUE TO KEEP ITS PROFESSIONALISM AND BE REPRESENTED, BUT I MEAN, I'M WITH MS. PAYNE ON THE DO THE BATHROOMS REALLY HAVE TO BE UPDATED? I KNOW IT'S $100,000, BUT LIKE I THINK THEY SAID 50 PER BATHROOM, IT'S 100 HUNDRED TOTAL.

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I ALSO USED THE POTTY TODAY AND I DIDN'T THINK IT WAS THAT BAD, BUT I DON'T OFFICE HERE EVERY DAY AND SO I DON'T WANT TO DISCOUNT STAFF MEMBERS OPINIONS ON IT, BUT I JUST DON'T LIKE WHEN THIS IS NOT OUR LONG TERM GOAL AND WE ARE LOOKING AT THE GROWTH OF THIS COMMUNITY, IS THAT REALLY JUST WHERE WE WANT TO SPEND, IS THAT WHAT WE WANT TO SPEND OUR FOCUS ON? NOT IN MY OPINION. SO I'M KIND OF IN BETWEEN THE TWO, AND I WOULD JUST I LIKE THE IDEA OF WHAT YOU JUST SAID, BIDDING SOME OF THESE AS OPTION, AND THEN MAYBE WE CUT DEPENDING ON WHAT THAT COMES BACK AS.

I THINK IF WE HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY, WE UNDERSTAND WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING.

STAFF IS GETTING RELOCATED BACK OVER HERE AND WE'VE GOT TO FIGURE OUT SOMETHING AND PUTTING UP WALLS IS NOT AS SIMPLISTIC AS MAYBE I THINK OF.

I UNDERSTAND THERE'S A LOT MORE TO IT.

SO I WOULD JUST BE SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN THOSE TWO FIGURES.

WHEN A DEPARTMENT IS BUYING FURNITURE, LET'S SAY IF THEY WERE BUYING THESE TEN CUBICLES, THAT DOES THAT HAVE TO BE BID OR CAN IT? SO IT'S GOING TO DEPEND ON THE PRICE.

ANYTHING OVER $50,000 WOULD HAVE TO BE BID UNLESS WE WENT TO A COOPERATIVE PRICE AGREEMENT.

EVEN THEN, ANYTHING OVER 50,000 WOULD HAVE TO COME BEFORE COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION.

ANYTHING THAT'S ON A CO-OP, BRIAN'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE CONVINCED THAT IT'S GOING TO BE BEST VALUE TO GO THROUGH THE CO-OP RATHER THAN BIDDING IT OUT.

OKAY, SO I'M GOING TO MAKE A SUGGESTION.

I MEANT TO DO THIS WITH DEANNA FOR THE LIBRARY, BUT [INAUDIBLE].COM.

THEY HAVE USED CUBICLES THAT ARE BRAND SPANKING NEW THAT ARE 50% OFF OF WHAT YOU WOULD.

CUBICLES ARE OUTRAGEOUS, AND I'VE PURCHASED SOME THINGS FROM THERE BEFORE, AND IT'S HIGH QUALITY.

IT'S NOT LOCAL, BUT IT'S HIGH QUALITY STUFF, AND YOU COULD GET THOSE TEN FOR A FRACTION OF THE COST, BRAND NEW, AND THEY'LL COME IN AND THEY'LL BE PRISTINE BECAUSE THEY DON'T SELL STUFF THAT'S BEEN DAMAGED AND WHATNOT.

SO WE COULD EXPLORE THAT.

AGAIN, IF IT WAS SOMETHING BELOW $50,000, WE COULD EXPLORE THE IDEA OF DOING A DIRECT PURCHASE IF WE FELT LIKE IT WAS CHEAPER THAN GOING THROUGH A CO OP OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

WE JUST NEED TO EXPLORE WITH MR. [INAUDIBLE] IN PURCHASING.

I KNOW I'M BRINGING IN MY BUSINESS STUFF HERE AND I'M FRUGAL AND I'M TRYING TO, BUT YOU KNOW, EVERY LITTLE BIT COUNTS AND YOU'D BE SURPRISED AT HOW GREAT YOU COULD BUY SOMETHING USED FOR AS FAR AS THIS KIND OF FURNITURE, BECAUSE COMMERCIAL FURNITURE, YOU'VE HAD SO MANY BUSINESSES THAT HAVE BEEN GOING OUT OR JUST NOT COMING BACK TO THEIR OFFICES AT ALL. THERE IS A PLETHORA OF USED CUBICLES OUT THERE, SO THAT COULD BE A POSSIBILITY.

SO I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR COUNCIL, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE THE DIRECTION WOULD BE A 1.5 OPTION.

SO WE COULD, DEPENDING ON COUNCIL FEEDBACK, WE CAN CERTAINLY INCORPORATE THE RESTROOMS AS AN ADDED ALTERNATE TO SEE HOW THOSE COMES BACK.

IF THE COUNCIL WANTS TO REDUCE THE ADDITIONAL WORKSPACE.

AGAIN, I KNOW THAT SAYS COUNCIL OFFICE, BUT THAT'S REALLY JUST MEANT AS A FLEX SPACE AND WE CAN LOOK AT BEING AS EFFICIENT AS POSSIBLE WITH STRETCHING OUR DOLLAR, BUT WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS THAT IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH BRINKLEY SARGENT AS WE GO THROUGH AND WE START DESIGNING AND WE GET THE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN MOVING ALONG.

WE WOULD COME BACK AND PRESENT THAT TO COUNCIL BEFORE WE BID OUT THE WORK TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ON THE RIGHT TRACK AND WE CAN PROVIDE ADDITIONAL COST ESTIMATES AT THAT TIME.

BUT THAT'S KIND OF ALONG THE LINES YOU SAID 1.5.

I ACTUALLY LIKE OPTION TWO, BUT I LIKE THE BOTTOM HALF OF OR THE BOTTOM THIRD, IF YOU WILL, OF OPTION TWO WITH IT.

WITH EVERYTHING ABOVE BEING CONSIDERED OPTIONAL.

I DO AGREE WITH THE BOTTOM THIRD.

I LIKE THAT.

I'D JUST SOON LEAVE AMANDA'S AREA ALONE BECAUSE I LIKE THAT AREA AND I CERTAINLY LIKE THE NEW OFFICE SPACE IN THERE.

I UNDERSTAND IF IT IS NEEDED FOR SOMETHING ELSE, MY OFFICE GOES AWAY.

THAT'S A LITTLE JOKE, YOU ALL, BUT I DO ALL SERIOUSNESS.

THAT WAS VERY, VERY NICE.

A VERY NICE DEAL, AND IT'S A NICE OFFICE, AND I WOULD LIKE TO LEAVE AMANDA ALONE, BUT I SURE DO LIKE THE BOTTOM PART OF THIS.

YES, SIR. I'M IN AGREEMENT ALSO WITH WHAT WE WHAT THEY'VE PROPOSED HERE IS MAYBE COME BACK WITH SOMETHING IN THE MIDDLE OF OPTION TWO, AN OPTION ONE. I THINK THAT'S A GOOD PLAN, AND THE MORE WE CAN STRETCH THIS BUILDING OUT FOR, IF WE CAN LAST ANOTHER TEN YEARS, I THINK THAT'LL BE PHENOMENAL.

I THINK JUST TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE SO WE'RE LOOKING AT OPTION TWO AND THEN THE BATHROOMS WOULD BE ADD ALTERNATES POTENTIALLY AND

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THE OTHER THE OTHER OFFICES AREAS THAT WERE SHOWN WHICH AREN'T SIGNIFICANT COSTS BUT WE CAN HAVE THOSE AS ALTERNATES BUT THAT'S THE OPTION TWO THAT COUNCIL'S INTERESTED IN.

WE'LL GO BACK AND MAKE SURE WE BRING THE DETAILS BACK TO YOU ON THAT.

THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. THANK YOU.

THAT BRINGS US TO 8C, RECEIVE A REPORT, HOLD A DISCUSSION AND GIVE STAFF DIRECTION REGARDING THE PROPOSED BUDGET AND RECEIVE ANY ADDITIONAL DIRECTION FROM

[8C. Receive a report, hold a discussion, and give staff direction regarding the proposed budget and receive any additional direction from City Council regarding the fiscal year 2022-2023 annual budget. (Staff Presenter: Bryan Langley, City Manager)]

CITY COUNCIL REGARDING THE FISCAL YEAR 2022 2023 ANNUAL BUDGET.

THE STAFF PRESENTER IS BRIAN LANGLEY, CITY MANAGER.

MR. LANGLEY.

THANK YOU, AMANDA.

I'M NOT USED TO DOING ALL THAT, SO I [INAUDIBLE] GET TO WHERE I NEED TO BE.

THAT'S IT. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT, WELL, GOOD TO BE WITH EVERYONE THIS EVENING TO TALK SOME MORE ABOUT THE BUDGET.

THIS WILL SAVE THE BEST FOR LAST.

MOST EXCITING ITEM I CAN TELL YOU'RE READY FOR THIS ONE? THE BUDGET DISCUSSION I DID WANT TO HAVE WITH YOU TONIGHT IS AN EXTENSION OF THE PRESENTATION THAT WE HAD FROM AUGUST 4TH AND WHEN I PRESENTED THE CITY MANAGER'S RECOMMENDED BUDGET TO YOU.

SO A FEW THINGS JUST TO GO THROUGH WITH YOU IN TERMS OF THE OVERVIEW OF THIS PRESENTATION.

FIRST IS I WILL GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF A REVIEW OF MY PROPOSED BUDGET, THE TAX RATE, THE ASSUMPTIONS FOR THE FIVE YEAR PLAN, WHAT WAS PRESENTED TO YOU BACK EARLIER THIS MONTH AND THEN THE COUNCIL ASKED US TO LOOK AT SOME OPTIONS FOR THE TAX RATE.

I'LL SHOW YOU THE PROPOSED TAX RATE, WHICH, AS YOU MAY RECALL, CAPTURES 3% GROWTH OF EXISTING PROPERTIES IN THE TAX BASE, AND THEN THERE'S A TAX RATE THAT WE'RE GOING TO SHOW YOU. THAT'S THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS OR OTHERWISE KNOWN AS THE GENERAL FUND RATE THAT WILL GENERATE THE SAME PROPERTY TAX REVENUE AS LAST YEAR.