[4A. 3808 S. Burleson Blvd. (Case 22-104): Hold a public hearing and consider a waiver to Section 5.5.E “Parking Lot/Site Layout Design Criteria” of the Design Standards Manual as amended by Resolution R-1175-10 for the parking lot design within 3808 S. Burleson Blvd. (Staff Presenter: Jared Wesley, Senior Civil Engineer)]

5.5 E PARKING LOT SITE LAYOUT DESIGN CRITERIA OF THE DESIGN STANDARDS MANUAL AMENDED BY RESOLUTION R117510 FOR THE PARKING LOT DESIGN WITHIN 3808 SOUTH BURLESON BOULEVARD.

AND JARED WESLEY, WELCOME.

WE DON'T SEE YOU GETTING TO GIVE PRESENTATIONS SOMETHING NEW FOR US.

IT IS ENGINEERING NIGHT. SO GOOD EVENING.

I LIKE IT. YOU WILL HAVE A COUPLE OF US.

SORRY FOR THE LONG DESCRIPTION.

IT'S ALWAYS FUN TO READ THAT.

SO LIKE YOU SAID, I'M JARED WESLEY FOR THE RECORD, SENIOR CIVIL ENGINEER.

THE CASE BEFORE YOU IS A WAIVER TO THE SUBDIVISION DESIGN STANDARDS, SPECIFICALLY THE PARKING LOT CRITERIA AND THE PAVEMENT SECTION.

THE APPLICANT IS MR. LARRY POOL. HE IS HERE.

IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE PARTICULAR CASE, JUST A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON THIS CASE IS IN 2010, THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED A RESOLUTION BASICALLY AFTER SEEING THAT SOME PARKING AROUND THE CITY WAS DETERIORATING.

THEY HAD SOME ISSUES BROUGHT BEFORE THEM.

AND SO THEY DID A RESOLUTION THAT AMENDED THE DESIGN STANDARDS PARKING REQUIREMENTS TO INCLUDE SPECIFIC PAVEMENT SECTIONS THAT HAS TO BE USED IN WHENEVER A PARKING LOT IS CONSTRUCTED.

AND SO WITH THAT, THOSE SECTIONS ARE A SIX INCH HOT MIX ASPHALT, FIVE INCH REINFORCED CONCRETE, OR WITH A SIX INCH STABILIZED BASE.

AND AS TIME WENT ON IN INDUSTRIAL SECTIONS, THERE'S BEEN SEVERAL WAIVERS WHERE PEOPLE HAVE WANTED IN AREAS WHERE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO PARK THE PUBLIC, THEY'RE GOING TO JUST USE THOSE FOR EQUIPMENT STORAGE.

THEY'RE GOING TO USE IT TO PARK THEIR VEHICLES.

THEY'VE ASKED FOR WAIVERS TO ALLOW THAT TO BE NOT NECESSARILY ASPHALT OR CONCRETE, BUT A FLEX BASE.

AND WITH THAT STAFF HAS SUPPORTED A SEVEN INCH FLEX BASE ON 95% COMPACTED AND CITY COUNCIL HAS APPROVED THAT PREVIOUSLY IN INDUSTRIAL ZONED AREAS WHERE THE PUBLIC WILL NOT HAVE ACCESS TO THAT.

WITH THAT BEING SAID, THAT IS THE INTENT BEHIND THIS WAIVER IS THAT THIS WAIVER WOULD BE FOR A LOCATION WHERE THE PUBLIC WOULDN'T HAVE ACCESS TO PARK THERE IT WOULD BE USED FOR PRIVATE STORAGE AND PARKING ONLY.

WE DID NOTIFY IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE REQUIREMENTS THAT WE HAVE, WE HAVEN'T HAD ANYBODY COME IN AND GIVE US ANY COMMENTS AS FAR AS YAY OR NAY TOWARDS THE WAIVER.

WITH THAT BEING SAID, THE ACTION REQUESTED FROM THE STAFF IS THAT WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE WAIVER WITH TWO CONDITIONS.

ONE BEING THAT THERE'S A GEOTECHNICAL STUDY DONE TO SHOW THAT THE PARKING LOT IS IN FACT THE SECTION THAT WAS SHOWN ON THE APPLICATION, WHICH IS TYPE A FLEX SPACE. AND THE SECOND PART OF THAT IS THAT THE PARKING LOT SHOULD ONLY BE USED FOR PRIVATE PARKING, FOR EMPLOYEE PARKING AND VEHICLE TRUCK STORAGE AND NOT ACCESSIBLE TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC.

ANY QUESTIONS? PERFECT.

THANK YOU. LET ME GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 6:34.

IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO COME SPEAK YOU'RE WELCOME TO DO SO AT THIS POINT.

AND WHILE WE'RE WAITING, IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.

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ALL RIGHT. I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

AND IF NO ONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON 4A.

MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE TO APPROVE THE WAIVER FOR THE PARKING LOT SITE LAYOUT DESIGN CRITERIA FOR CASE 22-104.

IS THAT WITH THE CONDITIONS. SORRY.

WITH STAFFS CONDITIONS.

SECOND. ALL RIGHT.

WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY ADAM AND A SECOND BY JASON.

ALL IN FAVOR IF YOU RAISE YOUR HAND AND THAT'S UNANIMOUS.

WE MOVE ON TO ITEM 4B, WHICH IS 2301 CR COUNTY ROAD 805E.

[4B. 2301 CR 805E. (Case 22-096): Hold a public hearing and consider a waiver to Section 5.1.a “Street and right-of-way basic policies” of the Design Standards Manual for the design criteria for streets within the Good Farms Subdivision. (Staff Presenter: Travis Attanasio, Senior Civil Engineer) ]

CASE 22-096 TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER A WAIVER TO SECTION 5.1 A STREET AND RIGHT OF WAY BASIC POLICIES OF THE DESIGN STANDARDS MANUAL FOR THE DESIGN CRITERIA FOR STREETS WITHIN THE GOOD FARMS SUBDIVISION.

TRAVIS. GOOD EVENING.

THERE WE GO. I COULDN'T LET JARED HAVE ALL THE FUN.

SO TRAVIS ATTANASIO, SENIOR CIVIL ENGINEER, THE CASE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS KIND OF ONE OF THOSE WHERE SOMETIMES THE CART GETS IN FRONT OF THE HORSE.

SO Y'ALL HAVEN'T SEEN A PLAT FOR GOOD FARMS YET.

IT'S WAY FAR DOWN IN THE ETJ IT'S ALMOST IN ALVARADO.

BUT WITH THIS, THEY ARE REQUESTING A WAIVER TO OUR STREET STANDARDS, WHICH OUR DESIGN STANDARDS DO APPLY IN THE ETJ.

SO THIS IS 60 ACRES.

LIKE I SAID, WE'RE VERY FAR SOUTH.

THE APPLICANT IS TIM BUFFINGTON AND B.B.

INVESTMENT PARTNERS, LLC.

LET ME CLICK. SO THIS IS A SCREEN CAPTURE FROM THE PLAT THAT YOU HAVEN'T SEEN YET.

THE PRELIMINARY PLAT IS AT STAFF LEVEL.

WE'RE WAITING FOR THIS WAIVER TO GO THROUGH THE P&Z AND COUNCIL PROCESS BEFORE PUTTING THAT THROUGH THE PROCESS, THE PLAT THROUGH THE PROCESS.

IT'S 47 SINGLE FAMILY LOTS.

ONE ACRE LOTS.

WATER SERVICE BY CREST WATER AND ONSITE SEWAGE FACILITIES.

THE WAY THAT THE ROAD SECTIONS WORK IS IF IT'S ASPHALT, THE COUNTY WILL MAINTAIN IT.

IF IT'S CONCRETE, IT'S UP TO THE INDIVIDUAL LOTS TO MAINTAIN THAT OR HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION.

WE DO HAVE THAT INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT THAT I HAD MENTIONED WHERE BURLESON HAS THE PLATTING AUTHORITY BUT AND ALSO CAN EXTEND DESIGN STANDARDS.

THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE SAYS THE STREETS SHALL BE DESIGNED AND CONSTRUCTED PER PUBLIC ROADWAY STANDARDS.

THOSE ARE VERY SPECIFIC STANDARDS THAT ARE OUTLINED IN OUR DESIGN MANUAL.

THE CITY IS NOT MAINTAIN ROADS IN THE ETJ THOUGH.

JOHNSON COUNTY, LIKE I SAID WILL MAINTAIN ASPHALT STREETS BUT THEY JUST DON'T HAVE THE CAPABILITY AND FUNDING TO DO CONCRETE STREETS.

ON THIS SLIDE HERE.

THIS IS A SLIDE YOU'VE SEEN BEFORE FOR OTHER SUBDIVISIONS WHERE IN MARCH 2019, STAFF PRESENTED A MODIFIED PAVING SECTION. SO YOU CAN SEE THE CITY STANDARD, THE COUNTY STANDARD, AND THEN THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION THERE.

SO IT'S A HIGHER STANDARD THAN THE COUNTY STANDARD, BUT IT'S NOT QUITE AS HIGH AS THE CITY STANDARD.

THAT'S WHERE THAT'S AT.

CITY COUNCIL AGREED TO THE MODIFIED SECTION.

SO THE CITY SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE TODAY DOES NOT ALLOW STAFF TO HAVE THAT STAFF LEVEL APPROVAL.

WE ARE PROBABLY GOING TO TRY TO WRITE SOMETHING IN THERE FOR THE DESIGN MANUAL UPDATE.

THAT DESIGN MANUAL UPDATE WAS APPROVED ON JULY 18TH, 2022, WHICH WOULD, IF THERE'S ALREADY A STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR THIS SECTION AND COUNCIL HAS AGREED TO IT, THEN AT A STAFF LEVEL WE COULD APPROVE THESE WAIVERS AND NOT MUDDY THE PROCESS.

NOTIFICATION WENT OUT TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE PROPERTY THAT INCLUDED SOME LOTS OUTSIDE OF THE BURLESON ETJ THAT WAS PUBLISHED IN THE NEWSPAPER.

AND THE REQUESTED ACTION IS STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF A WAIVER TO SECTION 5.1 STREET AND RIGHT OF WAY BASIC POLICIES OF THE SUBDIVISION AND DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE FOR THE DESIGN CRITERIA FOR STREETS WITHIN THE GOOD FARMS SUBDIVISION.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, TRAVIS.

THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING AS WELL.

I'M GOING TO OPEN IT AT 6:39 IF SOMEBODY WOULD LIKE TO COME SPEAK.

YOU'RE WELCOME TO DO SO AT THIS POINT.

AND WHILE WE WAIT, I WILL JUST ASK ANYONE ON THE COMMISSION IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.

I HAVE A COUPLE COMMENTS. I'M A GENERAL CONTRACTOR, SO I'M IN AND OUT OF QUITE A FEW RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES.

I JUST LEFT ONE A COUPLE OF HOURS AGO.

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$800,000 AND MILLION DOLLAR HOMES; POTHOLES OUT THERE.

IT WAS ON ONE WHERE I BELIEVE A WAIVER WAS DONE.

I THINK IT'S DOWN ON THE H[INAUDIBLE] OF SOMEWHERE AROUND 70 TO $75,000 REPAIRED.

IT'S BEEN THAT WAY FOR YEARS.

SO SOMETIMES I SEE AN ISSUE WITH THIS.

THAT'S MY PERSONAL OPINION.

ALL RIGHT? YES, SIR.

WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING.

IF YOU WOULD JUST COME UP HERE AND IF YOU'LL STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR US WHEN YOU START.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR.

MY NAME IS WADE FOLEY.

MY WIFE IS CINDY FOLEY.

AND WE JUST HAPPENED TO GET YOUR NOTICE IN THE MAIL THE OTHER DAY.

AND I KNOW SAM GOOD.

I GUESS HE MIGHT HAVE SOLD THE PROPERTY AND WE BACK UP THERE RIGHT OVER MY FENCE LINE.

AND WE HAVE THE FOUR AND A QUARTER ACRES ON 3813 TWIN CREEKS DRIVE AND SO WE BACK UP TO USED TO BE RUCKER OWENS LITTLE FARM BACK THEN BUT SO NUMBER ONE I DIDN'T KNOW THAT THEY WERE IN BURLESON'S ETJ.

I DIDN'T REALIZE YOU GUYS REACHED THAT FAR.

I ALWAYS THOUGHT WE WERE IN JOSHUA'S ETJ IF EVEN JOSHUA OR JUST PURE COUNTY.

BUT DID THEY, DID BURLESON REACH ALL THE WAY OUT THERE TO THAT PROPERTY AND, AND TAKE IT IN AS THEIR ETJ? I BELIEVE SO.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.

WE DO. THAT IS THE REASON WHY IT'S BEFORE THIS AUTHORITY.

THAT'S WHAT STOPPED US, NUMBER ONE, TO EVEN GET A LETTER FROM BURLESON BEING INVOLVED IN ANY OF THIS.

BUT WE HEARD MY NEIGHBOR CALLED HIM ABOUT BUYING THE PROPERTY A LITTLE WHILE BACK AND IT WAS ALREADY A DONE DEAL FROM TALKING TO SAM.

BUT WE'RE ALSO CURIOUS, I MEAN, YOU GUYS LIVE IN TEXAS.

YOU KNOW, THE ROUTINE.

THEY COME IN AND THEY DO A SUBDIVISION LIKE THAT, 47 WE HEARD IT'S 25 TWO ACRE TRACTS, BUT ENDS UP 47 ONE ACRE TRACTS.

SO I TAKE IT, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY'S PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE THEIR OWN SEPTIC OR SAID SOMETHING ABOUT AN ONLINE SEWAGE DEAL, BUT WE HAVE A HAIRPIN TURN RIGHT OUT, SAM GOOD'S PROPERTY SPLITS ON TWO SIDES.

HE BOUGHT RUCKER OWEN'S OUT COMPLETELY.

SAM LIVES ON ONE SIDE, SOLD OFF THE OTHER 60.

SO THERE IS A LONG FRONTAGE ROAD IN FRONT OF HIM.

BUT ALL THESE SUBDIVISIONS COME IN.

WE HAVE A HAIRPIN TURN COMING RIGHT OFF THE CORNER, AROUND THE CORNER FROM WHERE THESE HOMES ARE GOING TO COME IN.

THE COUNTY ROADS ARE ALMOST PEASHOOTER ROADS, YOU KNOW, AND WE'VE GOT ANOTHER ARENA THAT JUST WENT IN THERE. BOBBY MARTIN AND HIS DAD PUT AN ARENA RIGHT THERE AROUND THE CORNER FROM US.

AND SO WE HAVE HORSE TRAILERS COMING IN AND THEN WE PUT 47 MORE HOMES IN THERE.

I'M CURIOUS IF THEY'VE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION I HEARD THE MAN SPEAK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, COUNTY AND COUNTY ROAD AND MAINTAIN ANYTHING BUT GETTING PEOPLE IN AND OUT OF THERE IS SOMETHING THAT ALL OF US ARE CONCERNED.

WHEN I SPEAK FOR ALL MY NEIGHBORS, YOU KNOW, THAT BACK UP TO THEM.

IS THERE ANY CONSIDERATION TAKING INTO ALL THIS ABOUT THE COUNTY ROADS, NOT JUST THROWING IN A DEVELOPMENT AND THEN WORRY ABOUT THE COUNTY ROADS TO GET EVERYBODY IN AND OUT LATER? YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT ALL THE NEIGHBORS WERE CONCERNED ABOUT, TOO.

AND SO I DIDN'T KNOW HOW I CAN GET ANY INFORMATION BECAUSE WE JUST EVERYTHING WAS WORD OF MOUTH, YOU KNOW, NEIGHBOR TO NEIGHBOR.

SO THIS KIND OF TOOK US BY SURPRISE ON THE 47, BUT ALSO WHAT THE COUNTY IS GOING TO DO TO, YOU KNOW, WIDEN THOSE ROADS AND EVERYTHING TO GET PEOPLE IN AND OUT OF THERE SAFELY.

BECAUSE IF YOU GUYS SAW IT AND I'M SURE, YOU KNOW, HAIRPIN CORNERS AND BACKROADS OF TEXAS AND SO IF WE HAVE AVAILABILITY, ANY OF THAT KIND OF INFORMATION.

WELL, AND I'LL TELL YOU WHAT.

WHEN YOU HAVE THE CITY KIND OF GOING WITH THE ETJ INTO THE COUNTY, IT'S KIND OF A NEBULOUS SYSTEM THAT CREATES YEAH, I KNOW THE ROUTINE AND THE CITY HAS THEIR RULES THEY HAVE TO FOLLOW, THE COUNTY HAS THEIR RULES, THEY HAVE TO FOLLOW.

AND THEN THERE'S A MIXTURE.

STAFF HERE WILL HAVE 1000 TIMES MORE INFORMATION ON KIND OF WHAT'S GOING ON SUBDIVISION WISE.

AND UNFORTUNATELY, YOU GUYS ARE USUALLY THE LAST ONES TO KNOW IS THE NEIGHBORS KIND OF LIKE, HEY, WHAT'S THE BUILDING GOING IN THAT AND THANK YOU.

BECAUSE I'VE BEEN HERE 30 YEARS, I ACTUALLY DO INVEST IN REAL ESTATE, NOT A ROOKIE TO ETJ'S AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

AND WHEN IT'S IN THE ETJ, IT'S SOMETIMES EVERYBODY'S GUESS IN NO MAN'S LAND ON WHO, YOU KNOW, CONTROLS WHAT COUNTY OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, MINIMUM ONE ACRE FOR A SEPTIC SYSTEM, IF MY NUMBERS ARE STILL RIGHT, USED TO BE 95 FOOT FRONTAGE, YOU KNOW, FOR EACH LOT.

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I'M NOT SURE HOW THIS IS SET UP, BUT THE TRAFFIC PART AND THEN USUALLY IN THE ETJ, YOU GUYS ARE WELL AWARE, YOU KNOW, THEY'LL JUST THROW IN 50 HOMES AND THEN WE ALL HAVE TO LIVE.

WE'RE TRYING TO GET IN AND OUT SAFELY BECAUSE THEY DON'T, YOU KNOW? AND SO I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE TO TALK TO THE I MEAN, WE USED TO KNOW ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, COUNTY JUDGE, ALL OF THEM BEEN FRIENDS OF MINE A LONG TIME.

SO I DON'T KNOW HOW TO GET INFORMATION ON WHO'S DOING WHAT BECAUSE IT IS ETJ OR THE COUNTY JUST GOES [LAUGHTER].

WELL, AND I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, UNFORTUNATELY, BEING IN THE ETJ, THE CITY DOES NOT HAVE NEAR AS MUCH TEETH AS THEY DO IF IT'S INSIDE THE CITY LIMIT.

AND THAT'S ONE OF THE DRAWBACKS ABOUT BEING IN THE ETJ.

EXACTLY. ON THE FLIP SIDE, IF YOUR PROPERTY'S IN THE ETJ, YOU HAVE MORE FREEDOM TO DO WITH YOUR PROPERTY.

ABSOLUTELY. IT CUTS BOTH WAYS ON THAT.

AND WE LIKE IT.

YOU KNOW, THE COUNTRY, EVERYBODY DOESN'T WANT TO BE TOLD WHAT TO DO OR CITY TAXES AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

BUT THE WAIVER ON THE STREETS, I DON'T EVEN UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE WAVING OR WHAT, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE ANY INPUT OR WHATEVER.

I DON'T EVEN. AND YOU GUYS SEND US A LETTER, SUPPOSEDLY, THAT, YOU KNOW, TO NOTIFY US OF THE WAIVER.

THEY'RE ASKING FOR THE STREETS.

WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THAT WAIVER MEANS OR ENTAILS.

AND OR IF WE'RE IN YOUR ARE WE AT 3813 TWIN CREEKS DRIVE.

RIGHT. I MEAN THEIR [INAUDIBLE] FENCE BACKS UP TO US, RIGHT? SO BEHIND MY FENCE, 60 ACRES.

AND SO BUT WE'RE NOT IN BURLESON ACROSS THAT FENCE, ARE WE? I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT THE MAP.

YEAH. EXCUSE ME, MR. CHAIRMAN. I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT THE MAP TO ANSWER THAT PARTICULAR QUESTION IN REGARDS TO BEING IN THE ETJ.

BUT I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE OF THE PLAT.

SO THEY ARE IN OUR ETJ.

WE HAVE PLATTING AUTHORITIES SINCE THEY ARE IN OUR ETJ.

GOTCHA. AND THEY WILL NEED TO MAKE ALL THE EXCUSE ME, ALL OF THE DESIGN STANDARDS THAT WE SPEAK ABOUT IN OUR SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE.

THEY WOULD HAVE TO MEET OR THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME BEFORE THIS BOARD FOR A WAIVER, JUST AS THEY ARE FOR THE ROAD STANDARDS.

SO IN THIS INSTANCE, INSTEAD OF BUILDING TO A CONCRETE ROADWAY, CURB AND GUTTER, AS TRAVIS HAD ON THE POWERPOINT, THE STANDARDS THAT ARE THERE IN FRONT OF YOU ON THE SCREEN, THEY ARE ASKING FOR SOMETHING OTHER THAN THAT, WHICH IS A WAIVER REQUEST, WHICH IS BEFORE THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION TONIGHT BEFORE THEY CAN PROCEED TO THE PRELIMINARY PLAT.

SO IF THEY FAIL TO GET THIS WAIVER THIS EVENING, THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO MEET THE CITY STANDARD AND THEN THEY WOULD MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PRELIMINARY PLAT.

NOW UNFORTUNATELY FOR YOU GUYS, IF THEY'RE NOT REQUESTING ANY OTHER WAIVERS, IT WOULD BE A MINISTERIAL APPROVAL FOR THIS BOARD THAT ONCE THEY'VE MET ALL OF THE CITY STANDARDS THAT ARE WRITTEN IN OUR SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE AND OUR DESIGN GUIDELINES, THEY WOULD COME BEFORE THIS BOARD, BUT IT WOULD BE A CONSENT AGENDA ITEM AND THE NEIGHBORS WOULD NOT GET ANY NOTIFICATION BECAUSE THERE ARE NO WAIVERS REQUESTED.

EXACTLY. IT MEETS ALL OF OUR STANDARDS. YES SIR I UNDERSTAND.

SO I CAN GET WITH YOU AND LET YOU KNOW ABOUT YOUR AREA TO SEE IF YOU'RE WITHIN OUR ETJ OR NOT.

WELL, ARE THEY TRYING TO GO AWAY FROM, SAY, CONCRETE STREETS TO CHIP SEAL OR WHAT ARE THEY WAVING AS THE STANDARD IS? I'LL DEFER TO TRAVIS ON THAT.

SURE. SO THEY HAVE TWO OPTIONS THEY CAN HAVE TWO INCHES OF ASPHALT, OVER EIGHT INCHES OF FLEX SPACE AND A CEMENT STABILIZED SUB GRADE.

SO IT'S AN 18 INCH SECTION.

BASICALLY, YOU GOT 16 INCHES OF DIRT, TWO INCHES OF ASPHALT.

ALTERNATIVELY, THEY CAN GO WITH A FIVE INCH CONCRETE SECTION.

THEY UNFORTUNATELY DON'T TELL US WHICH ONE THEY'RE GOING WITH WHEN THEY REQUEST THE WAIVER.

THEY JUST REQUEST THE STAFF RECOMMENDED WAIVER.

FOR THE TWO? FOR EITHER THE TWO INCH ASPHALT OR THE FIVE INCH CONCRETE.

YEAH, TWO DIFFERENT TWO DIFFERENT KINDS.

AND THEN BUT WHO'S INSPECTING ALL THESE ROADWAYS? JUST CURIOSITY, SAKE AND THE DRAINAGE AND? OUR CONSTRUCTION INSPECTORS DO INSPECT IN THE ETJ.

AND THEY'VE DONE FOR ME TO SEE, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEIR DRAINAGE IS.

SO WE KNOW WE'RE NOT BEING IMPACTED, YOU KNOW, FROM.

SO YEAH. UNDER DRAINAGE THAT FALLS UNDER THE TEXAS WATER CODE.

BASICALLY THE WATER CODE SAYS YOUR NEIGHBOR CAN'T PUT ADDITIONAL WATER ON YOU THAT ISN'T EXISTING TODAY.

YES SIR. SO WHEN THEY COME IN WITH THE PLAT, THEY WILL IF THE PLAT MEETS ALL OTHER STANDARDS AS WAS MENTIONED, THEN THAT PLAT GETS MINISTERIAL APPROVED, IT GETS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

THEN THEY WOULD HAVE TO TURN IN ENGINEERING PLANS TO US.

BUT THOSE ENGINEERING PLANS HAVE TO MEET THE CITY STANDARDS FOR THIS ROADWAY SECTION DRAINAGE.

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THE WATER WILL BE REVIEWED BY THE WATER AUTHORITY OUT THERE.

THE COUNTY ALSO GETS THOSE PLANS.

THE COUNTY ALSO GETS THE PLAT SO THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT AS WELL.

YES, SIR. AND SO BURLESON STILL IS OVERSEEING THE CITY OF BURLESON, STILL OVERSEEING THE ENVIRONMENTAL AS FAR AS THE DRAINAGE ASPECTS OF THE SUBDIVISION AND ITS IMPACT ON? YES. UP UNTIL THE POINT AT WHICH THE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE IS DONE, THEN THEN IT'S JUST ON THE COUNTY FOR ISSUING BUILDING PERMITS.

YES, SIR. AND IF YOU DON'T MIND, WHAT DOES IT MEAN ABOUT ON-SITE SEWER FACILITY? A SEPTIC SYSTEM.

OH, SO EVERYBODY, THAT'S WHY YOU'RE DOING THE MINIMUM ONE ACRE, CORRECT? CORRECT. YES. OKAY. AND THEN AND SO THE WAIVER, I TAKE IT FOR THE TWO DIFFERENT KINDS OF WAYS THEY COULD GO WITH THE STREET AS FAR AS THE IMPACT OF BECAUSE IT'S ETJ AND EVEN IF IT'S JUST PURE COUNTY, THE ROADS GETTING IN AND OUT TO ALL OF THIS, YOU GUYS AREN'T PLANNING ON KICKING IN FOR DOING ANY HELPING THE COUNTY DO ANY KIND OF ROADWAY WIDENING OR ANYTHING ELSE TO, YOU KNOW, HELP WITH THE FACILITATING EGRESS AND INGRESS TO THAT SUBDIVISION? THE COUNTY WILL HAVE LIKE I SAID, THEY'LL HAVE AN OPTION OF A WAY TO COMMENT ON THE PLAT IF THEY DON'T LIKE THE WAY IT'S LAID OUT.

IF THEY WANT TO RESTRICT CERTAIN ACCESS POINTS TO THE SITE, THAT'S THINGS THAT THEY WILL SEND US COMMENTS ON.

BUT SINCE WE'RE JUST THE STREET WAIVER PROCESS, WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED THOSE COMMENTS.

CURIOSITY SAKE.

HAVE YOU BEEN TO THE LAND? I HAVE NOT. IT'S REALLY SOUTH.

YEAH, I WILL VISIT IT WHEN THE ENGINEERING PLANS COME IN, BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE TO REVIEW STUFF THAT I HAVEN'T SEEN PERSONALLY.

THAT'S JUST MY PERSONAL ENGINEERING STYLE.

WHEN YOU COME UP, YOU'LL KNOW.

AND THAT'S THE NEIGHBORS CONCERNS MOST OF ALL.

AND BECAUSE IT'S SKETCHY, AS IS WITH THE ARENA THAT WENT IN ON BOBBY MARTIN AND SAM MARTIN'S PROPERTY, SO IT'S GETTING BAD.

AND SO WE DIDN'T KNOW WHO WE HAD TO TALK TO.

OF COURSE, I'M FAMILIAR WITH THE COUNTY AND, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THEIR DEALS.

AND SO THE I GUESS IF I READ THIS RIGHT, IT GOES BACK TO THE COUNTY AND THAT'S RIGHT.

I WOULD BE IN CONTACT WITH STAFF BECAUSE LIKE THEY SAID, THEY CAN KIND OF EXPLAIN THAT PORTION OF IT.

BUT THEN WHOEVER YOUR COUNTY COMMISSIONER AND I'M NOT SURE WHAT PRECINCT.

PRECINCT 4. PRECINCT 4 THAT'S LARRY WOOLLEY.

IS THAT CORRECT? YES.

OKAY. I WOULD CONTACT LARRY WOOLLEY.

HE'S VERY EASY.

I KNOW LARRY.

HIS OFFICE. SO. AND I WOULD VOICE YOUR CONCERNS AND QUESTIONS.

AND THEN HE, HIM AND HIS STAFF CAN BE ON THE LOOKOUT FROM THE COUNTY SIDE AS WELL.

THANK YOU. BECAUSE, LIKE I SAID YOU KNOW, THE ROUTINE AND YOU KNOW WHERE I'M COMING FROM, BECAUSE IF IT WAS BESIDE YOU, YOU'D BE DOING THE SAME THING.

NO ABSOLUTELY. I HAVE ONE OTHER JUST CURIOSITY QUESTION BEFORE I LOSE MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT HERE ON THE YOU MADE ME THINK OF SOMETHING ELSE ON IT'LL COME TO ME I GUESS, AND THEN I CAN ALWAYS FOLLOW UP.

I LOST MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT THERE FOR A SECOND, BUT IT WAS NOT ON THE COUNTY.

IT'LL COME TO ME. ABSOLUTELY, IF YOU HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION.

CITY STAFF IS ARE YOU THE CITY ATTORNEY, I TAKE IT? I AM NOT. NO. THAT GENTLEMAN UP THERE, MR. RIBITZKI, IS.

I GOT YOU.

I'M THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS FOR YOU.

UNFORTUNATELY, THE ONLY ITEM ON THEIR AGENDA TONIGHT IS THE WAIVER FOR THE ROADWAY.

YEAH, I JUST TRYING TO CATCH UP REAL QUICK, GENTLEMEN.

CAN'T THANK YOU ENOUGH FOR YOUR TIME AND ANSWERS TOO AND I'LL JUST FOLLOW UP.

THANK YOU, GUYS. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

WE'RE STILL IN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

IS ANYBODY ELSE? ALL RIGHT. LET ME CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 6:54.

AND THEN WITH ALL THAT BEING SAID, DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS REGARDING 4B? AGAIN, I'LL JUST REITERATE THAT I'M REAL BIG ON ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S GOING TO BE PRIVATE HOMEOWNERS DRIVING THE ROADS AND STUFF.

STANDARDS IS REALLY WHAT I LIKE TO STICK TO.

NOT SAYING THERE'S GOING TO BE ANY KIND OF QUALITY DIMINISHING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

I JUST LIKE TO KNOW THAT IT'S GOING TO BE THERE FOR THE PEOPLE [INAUDIBLE] THESE HOMES.

ALL RIGHT. IF THERE IS NOTHING ELSE, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON ITEM 4B CASE 22-096.

CHAIRMAN I RECOMMEND TO APPROVE THE WAIVER FOR CASE 22-096.

ALL RIGHT. AND IS THERE A SECOND?

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ALL RIGHT. IT LOOKS LIKE IT WILL FAIL DUE TO A LACK OF A SECOND ON THE WAIVER FOR CASE 22-096.

OKAY. IS THERE ANY OTHER MOTIONS THAT SOMEBODY ELSE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE IN REGARDS TO CASE 22-096? I RECOMMEND DENIAL OF A WAIVER FOR SECTION 5.1 CASE 22-096.

SORRY, JASON, YOU SAID FOR DENIAL OF 22-096.

CORRECT. OKAY.

I'LL SECOND. ALL RIGHT.

WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY JASON AND A SECOND BY BILL.

ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT RAISE YOUR HAND.

ALL RIGHT. AND ALL AGAINST.

THAT'S A VOTE OF 3 TO 1.

ALL RIGHT. ITEM 5A, WHICH IS REPORTS AND PRESENTATIONS FOR CLIFFWOOD ADDITION PHASE THREE, LOCATED NORTHWEST OF THE INTERSECTION OF NORTH CUMMINGS DRIVE

[5A. Cliffwood Addition Phase 3, located northwest of the intersection of N. Cummings Dr. and County Road 517, with an approximate address of 3601 N. Cumming Dr. (Case 22- 038): Consider a preliminary plat for Cliffwood Addition Phase 3, consisting of Phase 3A, Lots 1-6, Block 1; Lots 1-6, Block 2; Lots 1-10, Block 3; and Phase 3B, Lots 7-19, Block 1; Lots 11- 25, Block 3, within the Extraterritorial Jurisdictions (ETJ) of the City of Burleson.]

AND COUNTY ROAD 517 WITH AN APPROXIMATE ADDRESS OF 3601 NORTH CUMMING DRIVE CASE 22-038 TO CONSIDER A PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR CLIFFWOOD ADDITION PHASE THREE CONSISTING OF PHASE 3A LOTS 1-6, BLOCK 1; LOTS 1-6, BLOCK 2; LOTS 1-10.

BLOCK 3 AT PHASE 3B LOTS 7-19, BLOCK 1 LOTS 11-25, BLOCK THREE WITHIN THE EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTIONS OF THE CITY OF BURLESON.

THAT'S A MOUTHFUL TOO.

MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION FOR THE RECORD [INAUDIBLE] DEVELOPMENT SERVICES PRESENTING CASE 22-38 A PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR CLIFFWOOD DEVELOPMENT.

THE APPLICANT IS DARRYL HOWARD AND THE OWNER IS CLIFFORD DEAL.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS APPROXIMATELY 80 ACRES AS LOCATED AT 3601 NORTH CUMMINGS DRIVE.

SO THE CLIFFWOOD PHASE THREE DEVELOPMENT CONTAINS 50 SINGLE FAMILY LOTS THAT WILL ALL BE RESIDENTIAL.

THEY'LL ALL HAVE A MINIMUM LOT SIZE OF ONE ACRE, AND THEY'RE LOCATED IN THE EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION, WHICH MEANS THAT THERE'S NO ZONING INVOLVED IN THIS SUBDIVISION. PHASE THREE IS BROKEN DOWN INTO TWO SUBCATEGORIES BEING PHASE THREE A AND PHASE THREE B, WHICH THE 50 LOTS ARE MADE UP WITHIN THOSE TWO DIFFERENT PHASES.

AND YOU CAN SEE IN THE IMAGE PHASE 3A AND PHASE 3B ARE KIND OF SPLIT IN HALF BY THAT DARKER, BOLD BOUNDARY IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PLAT.

SO AS FOR DRAINAGE, A FLOOD STUDY WAS SUBMITTED FOR THE PROJECT AND REVIEWED BY AN OUTSIDE CONSULTANT FOR THE CITY.

THE FLOOD STUDY HAS BEEN APPROVED AND SHOWS THAT NO DETENTION OF STORMWATER IS REQUIRED FOR THE SITE AND A FLOODPLAIN EXISTS ON THE PROPERTY.

BUT JURISDICTION OF THE FLOODPLAIN LIES WITH JOHNSON COUNTY.