[00:00:01] I WANT TO OPEN THE SESSION UP AT 9:01. [1. CALL TO ORDER] GOOD MORNING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS SECTION TWO CITIZENS APPEARANCE. EACH PERSON IN ATTENDANCE WHO DESIRES TO SPEAK TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON AN ITEM NOT POSTED ON THE AGENDA CAN SPEAK DURING THIS SECTION. YOU MUST FILL OUT A SPEAKER CARD AND TURN THAT SPEAKER CARD IN TO THE DEPUTY CITY SECRETARY, MONICA SOKOL, OVER THERE. IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE COUNCIL ON A NON AGENDA ITEM? THERE IS NONE AND I HAVE NO OTHER SPEAKER CARDS. SO WE WILL MOVE ON TO SECTION THREE. [3.A. Presentation and discussion of the FY2022-23 proposed budget and related items. (Staff Presenter: Bryan Langley, City Manager)] GENERAL, THREE A IS A PRESENTATION AND DISCUSSION OF THE FISCAL YEAR 2022-2023 PROPOSED BUDGET AND RELATED ITEMS. THE STAFF PRESENTER THIS MORNING IS CITY MANAGER BRIAN LANGLEY. BRYAN, THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING. THIS IS THE GETTING CLOSE TO THE END OF A VERY LONG JOURNEY ON ON PRODUCING A BUDGET. AS YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR A NUMBER OF MONTHS AND THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT WE'VE GIVEN TO YOU IN THE BUDGET DOCUMENT AND ALL THE MATERIALS THAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU. AND YOU'VE SEEN MOST OF THIS INFORMATION BEFORE OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS. WE ALSO HAVE A LOT OF STAFF HERE, AND DON'T BE FOOLED BY ALL OF THEM AT THE BACK OF THE ROOM. THEY'RE ANXIOUS TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE. THEY'LL RUN UP HERE AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT ARE OUT HERE. SO THIS IS MEANT TO BE A VERY, VERY MUCH A WORK SESSION OF TALKING ABOUT THE INS AND OUTS OF THE BUDGET. ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE THROUGHOUT THE PRESENTATION OR ANY TIME WE'RE HAPPY TO TALK ABOUT THOSE BEFORE I GET STARTED ON THE ACTUAL PRESENTATION, I DID WANT TO TO TAKE A COUPLE OF MINUTES AND JUST HAVE SOME HOUSEKEEPING OF WHERE THE DOCUMENTS ARE. SO AGAIN, THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION HERE. THE BUDGET WE PUT TOGETHER IS SUMMARIZED WITH THE PRESENTATION THAT I'LL GO THROUGH. IT'S A LARGE NUMBER OF SLIDES, ALMOST 90 SLIDES THAT ARE THERE. WE'VE WE'VE REALLY TRIED TO KEEP IT UNDER 100. SO I KNOW IT SEEMS LONG, BUT A LOT OF THIS WILL GO QUICKER THAN PERHAPS YOU THINK. AND THEN IN THE BUDGET DOCUMENT ITSELF, THE MANAGER'S MESSAGE IS, IS THERE IF YOU'VE HAD A CHANCE TO READ THAT, I THINK IT PROVIDES A GOOD OVERVIEW OF SOME OF THE KEY THEMES IN THE BUDGET, ALL THE KEY FINANCIALS THAT WE HAVE. AND THEN BEHIND THAT IS ALL OF THE FINANCIAL SCHEDULES THAT YOU HAVE FOR ALL THE INDIVIDUAL FUNDS THAT WE HAVE. AND FINALLY, THE LAST THING I'LL TELL YOU IN THE BUDGET DOCUMENT, THERE ARE SOME LARGE SHEETS THAT FOLD OUT AT THE BACK. THESE ARE ALSO ONLINE. BUT THESE DOCUMENTS HERE AT THE BACK, THIS REPRESENTS EVERY SUPPLEMENTAL PACKAGE THAT WAS REQUESTED BY A DEPARTMENT. WHAT THE COSTS WERE FOR THOSE ITEMS, WHAT THE RECURRING COSTS ONE TIME COST VEHICLES, ALL THOSE THINGS. AND THEN WHAT MY RECOMMENDATIONS ARE TO YOU FOR THIS BUDGET, WHAT'S INCLUDED IN THAT? SO THAT'S IN THERE, ANY OF THAT INFORMATION AS WE GO THROUGH THIS, IF YOU WANT TO ASK QUESTIONS, WE'LL CERTAINLY GO THROUGH IT IN ANY LEVEL OF DETAIL THAT YOU'D LIKE TO. SO ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT BEFORE I GET STARTED? AND THERE'S LOTS OF COFFEE AND SNACKS AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. I ALSO THINK THERE'S PROBABLY SOME NATURAL BREAKING POINTS DEPENDING ON HOW LONG WE GO. IF IF YOU DO NEED A BREAK, THERE'S PROBABLY SOME GOOD POINTS IN THE PRESENTATION WHERE YOU CAN TAKE TAKE A BREAK IF NEEDED. WELL, WE'LL JUST JUMP RIGHT IN. SO THE PRESENTATION OVERVIEW, THERE'S LOTS OF DIFFERENT THINGS WE'RE GOING TO COVER FOR YOU TODAY. WE'LL START WITH THE STRATEGIC PLAN THAT FORMS THE THE BASIS OF EVERYTHING THAT WE DO IN THE BUDGET. THEN WE'LL TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE KEY INITIATIVES, THE FOCUS AREAS THAT WE'VE LOOKED AT, THEN THE ORGANIZATION AND STRUCTURE OF THE BUDGET. A LOT OF TIMES THIS IS CONFUSING TO THE PUBLIC ABOUT HOW THE BUDGET IS OVERALL IS PUT TOGETHER, WHAT ARE THE VARIOUS FUNDS. SO WE'LL GO THROUGH THAT IN SOME LEVEL OF DETAIL AND THEN WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE GENERAL FUND. THIS IS THE MAIN FUND IN THE CITY AND WE'LL SPEND QUITE A BIT OF TIME ON THAT. COMPARE ALL THE TAX RATES, THE VALUES TO OTHER JURISDICTIONS AND WHERE WE'VE BEEN IN THE PAST AS WELL. THEN WE'LL COVER ALL THE OTHER VARIOUS FUNDS AS WE KIND OF ROUND OUT ALL THE BUDGETS. SO LOTS OF INFORMATION TO GO GO THROUGH. AND JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME OF THE KEY TAKEAWAYS FROM THE BUDGET, IF NOTHING ELSE YOU TAKE AWAY FROM THE PRESENTATION, THESE ARE FIVE KEY AREAS THAT WE WANTED TO MENTION TO YOU THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THIS BUDGET. AND THE FIRST IS IT'S A LOWER TAX RATE, THE TAX RATES PROPOSED OF 65.70 $0.02. THIS IS A DECREASE OF ALMOST $0.03 FROM THE PRIOR YEAR, AND THAT IS THE LOWEST TAX RATE THAT THE CITY OF BURLESON HAS HAD SINCE 2007 2008 FOR ABOUT 15 YEARS SINCE THE RATE'S BEEN THIS LOW. SO WE THINK THAT'S VERY SIGNIFICANT. AND THEN THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION, AS YOU MAY RECALL, WE ADDED THE 1% HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION LAST YEAR. THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME THAT HAD EVER BEEN ADDED IN THE CITY'S HISTORY. THIS BUDGET ADDS ANOTHER PERCENT TO THAT TO MAKE IT 2% GOING FORWARD. SO ANOTHER WAY FOR OUR TAXPAYERS TO REDUCE THEIR TAX BILL AND THEN ST AND TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS, THAT'S A CONSISTENT THEME THAT WE'VE HEARD FROM THIS COUNCIL AS WELL AS THE PUBLIC AS AS AN AREA THAT NEEDS FOCUS. SO THE BUDGET INCLUDES $6.2 MILLION FOR THIS COMING YEAR IN FY 23 AND $87 MILLION IN FUNDING FOR STREETS, TRAFFIC AND SIDEWALK [00:05:02] IMPROVEMENTS OVER THE FIVE YEAR PERIOD. AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN DETAIL AS WE GO THROUGH IT. BUT A VERY SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR THAT SPECIFIC AREA THAT'S NEEDED. PUBLIC SAFETY ENHANCEMENTS IS ALSO SOMETHING THAT THIS BUDGET PROVIDES A LOT OF FOCUS ON. IN FACT, THERE ARE 16 NEW POSITIONS THAT ARE RELATED TO PUBLIC SAFETY, AND WE'LL DETAIL ALL OF THOSE FOR YOU. BUT A VERY LARGE PERCENTAGE OF THE POSITIONS THAT ARE BEING ADDED ARE RELATED TO THESE THESE AREAS. AND THEN ON UTILITIES, NO RATE INCREASES ARE PROPOSED FOR WATER WASTE. WATER OR SOLID WASTE FOR THIS BUDGET. SO WE'RE VERY PROUD TO BE ABLE TO HOLD THE LINE ON THOSE FEES AS WELL. ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? AGAIN, FEEL FREE TO STOP ME ANYWHERE AS WE GO THROUGH THIS. I'LL TRY TO KEEP MOVING FORWARD. SO THE STRATEGIC PLAN FOCUS AGAIN, THIS IS THE CORE OF HOW WE BUILD THE BUDGET AS WE LOOK AT THE STRATEGIC PLAN THAT THE COUNCIL HAS BEEN FOCUSED ON AND THEN TRY TO ACHIEVE THOSE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES THAT ARE OUTLINED IN THAT PLAN. THERE ARE FOUR AREAS THAT WE HAVE FOCUSED ON IN THE STRATEGIC PLAN, A HIGH PERFORMING CITY ORGANIZATION, DYNAMIC AND PREFERRED CITY, BEAUTIFUL, SAFE AND VIBRANT COMMUNITY, AND A GREAT PLACE TO LIVE. THESE ARE THE FOUR AREAS THAT THE COUNCIL HAD AGREED UPON DURING YOUR FALL RETREAT WITH OUR OUTSIDE CONSULTANT FACILITATOR THAT WE USED. AND THAT PLAN HAS ALSO INCLUDED IN YOUR BUDGET AS WELL AS WE SEND IT TO YOU IN THE FRIDAY REPORT, I BELIEVE A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO SENT THAT TO YOU. SO IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT, CERTAINLY WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT AS WELL. BUT ALL THOSE ARE THINGS THAT CAME OUT OF THAT RETREAT SESSION THAT WE HAD WITH THE COUNCIL. SO JUST JUMPING INTO SOME OF THE KEY BUDGET INITIATIVES. THE FIRST THING I'LL TELL YOU IS THIS PROCESS AND THE BUDGET PROCESS HAS BEEN A CITIZEN FOCUSED PROCESS AND IT'S BEEN A TRANSPARENT PROCESS, AND THAT'S BY DESIGN TO MAKE THIS VERY INTENTIONAL TRANSPARENT FOR BOTH THE COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC WATCHING WITH THIS. WE'VE HAD A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT WORK SESSIONS AND TOPICS THAT WE WENT THROUGH OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS. AS I'VE TOLD YOU, ALL OF THAT INFORMATION HAS BEEN POSTED ONLINE. IT ALLOWS THE COUNCIL MULTIPLE OPPORTUNITIES TO TALK ABOUT PRIORITIES AND AND GOAL SETTING OF WHAT THEY'D LIKE TO SEE IN THE BUDGET AND ANY ADJUSTMENTS THAT YOU WOULD WANT TO SEE. WE ALSO DID A PUBLIC SURVEY AND WE CREATED A DEDICATED WEB PAGE ON OUR WEBSITE FOR THE PUBLIC TO MONITOR THE BUDGET PROCESS AND THEN TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK ON ANYTHING THEY'D LIKE TO SEE DIFFERENT. AND THE END RESULT OF THAT IS WE HOPE THAT THIS BUDGET ACHIEVES ALL OF THE GOALS FROM THE COUNCIL THAT YOU'VE ARTICULATED TO US OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS, AS WELL AS THE CITIZEN GOALS THAT WE'VE SEEN. I WON'T READ THROUGH ALL OF THIS, BUT THESE ARE ALL THE VARIETY OF DISCUSSIONS THAT YOU'VE HAD AS A COUNCIL OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS. AGAIN, IT GOES BACK TO MARCH. IT IT FEELS LIKE LONGER PROBABLY THAN FIVE MONTHS AS YOU KIND OF LOOK BACK AT ALL THESE DIFFERENT CONVERSATIONS, BUT LOTS OF DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES TO DISCUSS THE BUDGET WE'VE HAD WITH THE COUNCIL. THE BOND ELECTION WAS OCCURRED, OF COURSE, IN MAY OF 22 AND THAT WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF OTHER DISCUSSIONS AS WE'VE KIND OF FORMULATED. SO AGAIN, I DON'T THINK THERE'S TOO MANY SURPRISES IN THIS BUDGET. THERE SHOULDN'T BE ALL THESE THINGS OR THINGS THAT YOU'VE SEEN AT ONE POINT OR THE OTHER, ALTHOUGH IT MAY HAVE BEEN A FEW MONTHS. NOW THIS IS A SCREENSHOT OF THAT BUDGET PAGE THAT IS ON OUR WEBSITE. SO EVERY PRESENTATION THAT I JUST SHOWED YOU THAT GOES BACK TO MARCH, ALL OF THOSE DOCUMENTS, EVERY PRESENTATION, EVERY DEPARTMENT MEMO, EVERY PIECE OF INFORMATION THAT WE'VE PROVIDED TO YOU IS ON THAT PAGE SO THE CITIZENS CAN SEE IT AND AS WELL AS HAVE LINKS TO THOSE VIDEOS TO SEE THOSE DISCUSSIONS AS WELL. AND WE DID, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, DO THE BUDGET SURVEY, THE PUBLIC SURVEY TO SEE KIND OF WHAT IS THE PUBLIC WANT TO SEE IN THE BUDGET. AND FROM THAT, WE ACTUALLY HAD A PRETTY GOOD RESPONSE TO THIS. I THINK IT'S HIGHER THAN WHAT WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST. ABOUT 298 PEOPLE RESPONDED TO THE SURVEY AND SOME OF THE RESULTS WERE VERY CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE SAW IN THE CITYWIDE SURVEY. BUT THE LARGEST AREA WAS PUBLIC SAFETY. YOU CAN SEE AT THE TOP, ABOUT 218 RESPONSES SAYS THAT'S THEIR PRIORITY, FOLLOWED BY STREETS AND TRAFFIC CONCERNS AND THEN PARKS AND RECREATION. SO THAT WAS ON THE THE BUDGET SURVEY THAT WE DID. AND THEN SEPARATELY, AS YOU MAY RECALL, WE DID THE THE CITYWIDE SURVEY. THIS IS WE HIRED A FIRM TO DO A STATISTICALLY VALID SURVEY OF THE ENTIRE CITY MEANT TO REPRESENT ALL 51,000 RESIDENTS. AND ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE, THESE ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT CATEGORIES FOR THE CITY TO FOCUS ON OVER THE NEXT YEAR THAT WERE IDENTIFIED IN THAT SURVEY. SO INFRASTRUCTURE, POLICE, FIRE, PARKS AND REC, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND COMMUNICATION. AND THEN WE ALSO ASKED FOR THE AREAS THAT CITIZENS WOULD MOST SUPPORT FUNDING WITH THEIR TAX DOLLARS. AND YOU CAN SEE THAT ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE FOR THE CITIES, INFRASTRUCTURE WAS THE NUMBER ONE ELEMENT THAT THE PUBLIC WAS LOOKING AT, FOLLOWED BY PUBLIC SAFETY AND PARKS AND RECREATION. SO I THINK BETWEEN THOSE TWO SURVEYS, SURVEYS THAT WERE VERY SIMILAR AND I THINK GAVE US SOME OF THE KEY THEMES THAT WE NEEDED TO HAVE IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET. AND THAT'S WHAT WE TRIED TO FOCUS ON. [00:10:03] WE ALSO DID A WORD CLOUD FROM THE SURVEY. THESE ARE SOME OF THE MOST COMMON PHRASES AND COMMENTS THAT WE GOT OUT OF THE SURVEYS, WHICH WERE THEY'RE ALWAYS ENTERTAINING TO READ, YOU KNOW, FIXING POTHOLES, DAMAGED STREETS, LOOKING AT PARKS AND REC, PROGRAMING THAT'S INCLUDED INCLUSIVE, MAKING OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, MAKING SURE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS ENOUGH OFFICERS AND SO FORTH. EVERY ONE OF THESE COMMENTS THAT ARE REPRESENTED HERE ARE ADDRESSED IN SOME SHAPE OR FORM IN THIS PARTICULAR BUDGET THAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO YOU. SO WE'RE VERY PROUD OF THAT. OKAY. WE'RE ROLLING. ALL RIGHT. 10% THROUGH. SO IN THE BUDGET FOCUS AREAS. YEAH, DON'T SAY IT THAT WAY. SO THE BUDGET FOCUS AREA IS AGAIN, OUT OF ALL OF THAT FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE GOTTEN FROM THE COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC ITSELF, WE PUT TOGETHER SIX PRIMARY FOCUS AREAS THAT WE WANTED TO FOCUS ON IN THIS BUDGET COST CONTAINMENT AND EFFICIENCY IN OUR OPERATIONS, FINANCIAL SUSTAINABILITY, STREETS AND TRAFFIC, PUBLIC SAFETY, EMPLOYEE COMPENSATION AND BENEFITS IN AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. SO I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT EACH ONE OF THOSE IN A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL. SO IF YOU LOOK AT COST CONTAINMENT, THIS IS A CORE FOCUS FOR US ALL YEAR LONG AS AS A CITY AND WITH WITH ME AND ALL OF OUR STAFF, AS WE ALWAYS WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE MANAGING OUR COSTS AND THE DOLLARS THAT WE'RE GIVEN THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE USING THOSE EFFECTIVELY. SO WE'VE TRIED TO INDICATE HERE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE, MORE SIGNIFICANT THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE OVER THE PAST YEAR, REDUCED OUR HEALTH CARE ADMINISTRATION COSTS BY ABOUT $250,000. AND THIS IS AFTER REVIEWING THOSE CONTRACTS IN DETAIL OF THOSE ADMINISTRATION CONTRACTS THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE CAN REDUCE THOSE COSTS. SO WE'VE REALIZED THOSE SAVINGS. WE WORK VERY, VERY CLOSELY WITH THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT AND THE FINANCE COMMITTEE HERE TO REVAMP OUR INVESTMENT MANAGEMENT. AND THAT HAS YIELDED, ALTHOUGH NOT A COST SAVINGS, IS A REVENUE ENHANCEMENT WITH THE SAME LEVEL OF RISK AND SAME OPERATIONS, ANOTHER $100,000 A YEAR IN INVESTMENT INCOME. SO WE'RE PROUD OF THAT AS WELL. AND I'LL TALK IN A MOMENT JUST ABOUT THIS ONE AS WELL. BUT WE'VE ALSO ADJUSTED OUR CONTRIBUTIONS INTO THE TEXAS MUNICIPAL RETIREMENT SYSTEM. THAT'S THE CITY'S PENSION SYSTEM. AND BY DOING THAT AND PAYING A LITTLE BIT MORE MONEY IN EACH YEAR INTO THAT PENSION PLAN, THAT SAVES US ABOUT $3.6 MILLION OVER THE NEXT 20 YEARS IN TERMS OF OUR CONTRIBUTIONS THAT WILL BE REQUIRED TO FUND THAT PLAN. SO THAT'S A VERY BIG A BIG COST SAVINGS THAT WE'RE PROUD TO IMPLEMENT IN THIS BUDGET. WE ALSO HAVE IMPLEMENTED SOME SALARY SAVINGS IN THE BUDGET, LOOKING AT OUR VACANT POSITIONS AND MANAGING THOSE VACANT POSITIONS. THAT'S ABOUT $850,000 THAT WE'VE ACHIEVED IN THIS COMING BUDGET. AND WE'VE ALSO, AS THE FIRE CHIEF MENTIONED TO YOU DURING HIS BUDGET PRESENTATION, WE'VE SAVED ABOUT $200,000 BY BETTER MANAGING SOME OF THE OVERTIME AND THAT DEPARTMENT AND LOOKING AT THE OVERTIME POLICY. AS YOU ALL KNOW, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS ABOUT ARPA FUNDS AND USING THOSE FUNDS IN THE MOST PRODUCTIVE WAY. IT'S BEEN A BIG FOCUS FOR US MOVING FORWARD, $1.7 MILLION AND THIS BUDGET IS BEING USED FOR ARPA FUNDS. THOSE ARE COSTS THAT WOULD OTHERWISE BE BORNE BY OUR TAXPAYERS. SO WE'RE PROUD TO USE THOSE FUNDS IN THAT WAY. AND OVER THE ELIGIBILITY PERIOD, THE ENTIRE ELIGIBILITY PERIOD FOR ARPA, IT'S $11.9 MILLION THAT WILL BE USED TO OFFSET COSTS THAT WOULD HAVE OTHERWISE BEEN BORNE BY OUR CITY. SO WE'RE VERY PROUD TO USE THAT. THE LAST THING I'LL MENTION TO YOU IS THE EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT FUND. THIS IS A DISCUSSION WE HAD WITH YOU PRETTY EARLY ON IN THE PROCESS TO LOOK AT HOW WE HAD ANALYZED ALL OF OUR CONTRIBUTIONS FOR EQUIPMENT GOING INTO THIS FUND. AND WE WERE ABLE TO OPTIMIZE THAT CONTRIBUTION AND IDENTIFY A LARGE SAVINGS THAT COULD BE TRANSFERRED INTO THE GENERAL FUND, WHICH WAS $3 MILLION AND ANOTHER MILLION DOLLARS THAT COULD GO INTO THE WATER AND WASTEWATER FUND. SO THAT'S ANOTHER $4 MILLION THAT HAS BEEN ABLE TO BE REPROGRAMED AND USED FOR OTHER OTHER IMPORTANT AREAS THAT WE NEEDED IN THE CITY. SO THAT'S THE COST CONTAINMENT, ORGANIZATIONAL EFFICIENCY. I JUST WANT TO MENTION TO YOU A FEW THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE. WE'VE TALKED TO YOU ABOUT ESTABLISHING THE LEAN GOVERNMENT PROGRAM. WE'VE WE'VE SPENT QUITE A BIT OF EFFORT ON THAT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE LOOKING WE HAVE A SYSTEM IN PLACE TO LOOK AT OUR OPERATIONS AND TO TRY TO BECOME MORE EFFICIENT EVERY YEAR BY BY LOOKING AT THOSE WITH A TEAM OF EMPLOYEES. WE'VE ALSO BEGAN THIS BUDGET PROPOSES FUNDING FOR THE 311 CUSTOMER RELATIONSHIP MANAGEMENT SYSTEM. AND THAT WILL BE USED TO IMPROVE NOT ONLY CUSTOMER SERVICE BUT TO IMPROVE PERFORMANCE AND ATTRACT DATA. I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'VE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS ON THAT. WE ALSO IMPLEMENTED THE PHOENIX G2 STATION ALERTING SYSTEM. THIS WAS WITH DISPATCH AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, AND THAT HAS REDUCED OUR RESPONSE TIME BY 41%. SO IT'S A VERY SIGNIFICANT EFFICIENCY IMPROVEMENT AND IT ALSO IS SOMETHING THAT ACTUALLY MAKES THE LIVES OF OUR CITIZENS A LOT BETTER AS WELL. WE ALSO LOOKED AT OUR CAPITAL PROGRAM EXTENSIVELY. [00:15:03] WE'VE LOOKED AT ALL OF OUR CIP, OUR FUNDS THAT ARE AVAILABLE. WE REALLOCATED A LOT OF THOSE CAPITAL TO MINIMIZE THE DEBT CELLS IN THIS FISCAL YEAR, FY 22, AND THAT DID REDUCE OUR DEBT BY $12 MILLION. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE WE THOUGHT WAS NOTEWORTHY TO MENTION TO YOU. AND THEN WE ARE ALSO BEGINNING THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE COMPUTER AIDED DISPATCH SYSTEM, THE CAD SYSTEM FOR PUBLIC SAFETY. AND WE BELIEVE THAT WILL ALSO INCREASE EFFICIENCY FOR ALL OF OUR PUBLIC SAFETY OPERATIONS. IN TERMS OF FINANCIAL SUSTAINABILITY. I WANTED TO MENTION THIS. I THINK THIS IS AN IMPORTANT THEME AS WE ARE LOOKING AT SOME CHALLENGING TIMES AND UNCERTAIN FINANCIAL TIMES. WE ALWAYS WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE YOU'RE BEING WATCHFUL OVER THE FINANCES FOR THE CITY AND LOOKING AT THE LONG TERM, NOT JUST THIS YEAR'S BUDGET, BUT LONG TERM, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PUTTING TOGETHER A BUDGET THAT IS SUSTAINABLE OVER TIME. SO AS PART OF THAT, THIS BUDGET MAINTAINS STRONG FUND BALANCES AND RESERVES AND IS, AS YOU SAW THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS, MANY OF OUR FUNDS, ALL THE MAJOR FUNDS WE SHOWED YOU TEN YEAR PROJECTIONS, NOT JUST FIVE YEARS, BUT TEN YEARS. SO YOU COULD TRULY SEE THAT LONG TERM PROJECTION OF WHAT IT MEANT. WE'VE ALSO INCREASED OUR CASH FUNDED CAPITAL IN THIS BUDGET. THERE'S $8 MILLION THAT'S BEEN ALLOCATED OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND FOR CASH FUNDING CAPITAL RATHER THAN ISSUING BONDS. AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT GIVES US MORE FINANCIAL FLEXIBILITY AS WELL AS LOWERS OUR DEBT SERVICE COSTS IN THE FUTURE. AND WE ALSO HAVE, AS YOU KNOW, THE SOME LARGE DEVELOPMENTS COMING ON INTO THE CITY. THE CHISHOLM SUMMIT DEVELOPMENT IS PROBABLY THE LARGEST, BUT A PORTION OF GROWTH FOR REGULAR GROWTH THAT WE HAVE IN THE CITY IS ALLOCATED FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS. BUT FOR ALL OF CHISHOLM SUMMIT, WE'RE ALLOCATING ALL OF THAT TO CAPITAL PROJECT. SO WE'RE NOT TRYING TO LOOK AT THAT AND SAY THAT PROJECT HAS TO COME ONLINE IN A CERTAIN CERTAIN TIME FRAME TO FUND OUR OPERATIONS. WE KNOW THAT'S GOING TO BE USED TO BUILD THE FUTURE FIRE STATION AND SUPPORT THOSE OPERATIONS. AND IN FY 27 IS THE PLAN. WE'VE ALSO TRIED TO MINIMIZE OUR RATE INCREASES FOR THE UTILITIES, AND WE'VE LOOKED AT THAT VERY CAREFULLY TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE ARE REASONABLE GOING FORWARD. AND AS I MENTIONED TO YOU THAT TMRS RATE, WE INCREASED THE CONTRIBUTION BY HALF A PERCENT. AND THAT SAVES US, AGAIN, $3.6 MILLION OVER A 20 YEAR PERIOD. AND IT ALSO REDUCES THE TIME IT TAKES TO GET FULLY FUNDED IN THAT PLAN. AND ONCE THAT PLAN IS FULLY FUNDED AFTER 20 YEARS, IT'S A LONG TIME IN THE FUTURE. BUT ONCE THAT'S FULLY FUNDED, WILL REDUCE OUR CONTRIBUTION BY $2.8 MILLION PER YEAR. SO IT'S A VERY SIGNIFICANT CHANGE BY PAYING JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE INTO THAT PLAN. IT'S ESSENTIALLY LIKE PAYING OFF YOUR MORTGAGE A LITTLE BIT EARLY. IF YOU'VE EVER LOOKED AT THOSE NUMBERS GOING FROM A 30 YEAR TO 20 YEAR OR 15 YEAR, IT'S A VERY LARGE CHANGE IN TERMS OF WHAT YOU END UP PAYING OVER THAT PERIOD OF TIME. SO IT'S A SIMILAR CONCEPT. SO WE'RE PROUD THAT WE'RE ABLE TO PUT THAT INTO THE BUDGET AS WELL. AS PART OF OUR COST CONTAINMENT AND FINANCIAL SUSTAINABILITY INITIATIVES, WE ALWAYS LIKE TO SHOW YOU SOME OTHER COMPARISONS WITH OTHER CITIES. I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT TO LOOK AT NOT ONLY WHAT OUR RATE IS BY ITSELF, BUT HOW WE COMPARE IT SOME OTHER JURISDICTIONS. AND SO I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF CHARTS HERE THAT I THINK ARE HELPFUL AND WE'VE SHOWN FOR YOU IN THE BURLESON I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A MAROON COLOR. I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE BURLESON COLOR IS. I'M GOING TO CALL IT MAROON, BUT THE BURLESON MAROON COLOR IS THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE GET ASSESSED VALUE PER CAPITA. SO IF YOU LOOK AT ALL THIS ASSESS VALUES THAT ARE IN THE CITY AND DIVIDED BY OUR POPULATION, THAT'S HOW WE GOT TO THAT NUMBER, THE NUMBER THAT'S THERE IN THE MAROON, THAT IS OUR NUMBER FOR FY 23. AND ALL THE OTHER NUMBERS HERE SHOWN ARE THE YEAR PRIOR TO THAT FOR THESE OTHER CITIES. SO THEY WILL LIKELY CHANGE SOME. BUT WE SIMPLY DON'T HAVE ALL THOSE NUMBERS JUST YET BECAUSE EVERYBODY'S JUST RELEASING THEIR BUDGETS RIGHT NOW. BUT PRETTY MUCH FROM THIS, I THINK THE MESSAGE IS WE'VE CLIMBED UP IN THIS AREA BECOMING HAVING MORE VALUE PER CAPITA THAN WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST. AND WE'RE KIND OF IN THE MIDDLE OF THE VARIOUS CITIES THAT WE LOOK AT. AND FROM A TAX RATE STANDPOINT, YOU CAN SEE OVER THE LAST TWO OR THREE YEARS HOW OUR RATE HAS COME DOWN SIGNIFICANTLY. PRIOR TO FY 21, IT WAS 7350. SO IT WOULD HAVE BEEN AT THE VERY TOP OF THIS LIST. BUT IN 21, WE TOOK THAT RATE TO $0.71 EXCUSE ME, AT 72, THEN IT WENT TO 71. AND NOW THIS PAST YEAR WAS 6859, AND THE PROPOSED RATE OF 65 72, YOU CAN SEE WHERE THAT IS. AGAIN, THESE ARE COMPARED AGAINST SOME OF THE 22 RATES. SO SOME OF THESE RATES IN THESE OTHER CITIES WILL LIKELY FALL AS VALUES HAVE GONE UP. BUT WE STILL THINK THAT RELATIVELY OUR POSITION WILL BE VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT IT IS RIGHT NOW, AND IT'S CERTAINLY COME DOWN OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS. WE'RE FLYING. DOES IT FEEL LIKE IT RIGHT? OK OK DID WANT TO MENTION SOME OF THE KEY PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS, AND WE'LL TALK IN A MOMENT ABOUT THE ENTIRE CIP [00:20:09] THAT'S INCLUDED IN THIS BUDGET, BUT JUST A FEW OF THESE THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THIS COMING FISCAL YEAR. AS YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL IMPROVEMENTS FOR 174. SO THIS BUDGET INCLUDES $1.8 MILLION FOR THAT PROJECT, WHICH WOULD BE A SIGNATURE PROJECT FOR US TO CONTROL THE TRAFFIC LIGHTS, IMPROVE THE SIGNALIZATION AND TRAFFIC FLOW OF THOSE INTERSECTIONS. SO THAT'S A BIG PROJECT FOR US. WE HAVE SOME MORE NEIGHBORHOODS, STRAIGHT STREET.. THAT JUST. I'M SORRY. THAT THE PROGRAMING. AND DOES THAT INCLUDE THE SALARY OF THE TECHNICIAN THAT WE HIRED? WHAT IS THAT INCLUDING? IT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE SALARY. THIS IS JUST THE CAPITAL COST. SO THIS IS ALL THE EQUIPMENT THAT WOULD GO ON THE SIGNALS AND THE MANAGEMENT OF THE TRAFFIC OPERATIONS CENTER. BUT WE DO HAVE ANOTHER TRAFFIC SIGNAL TECHNICIAN AND THE SYSTEM MANAGEMENT OPERATOR. THAT WOULD BE THAT'S IN ADDITION TO THESE COSTS. SO JUST CAPITAL. THANKS, BRIAN. BY ANY CHANCE, IS THERE ANY ANYTHING AVAILABLE FROM THE STATE FOR SUPPLEMENTING THIS GRANTS ON THIS? YES, WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT WE CAN PURSUE SOME GRANTS ON THIS. BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW, WE DON'T HAVE ANY WE'RE CERTAINLY TRYING TO PURSUE AS MANY OF THOSE AS WE CAN. ALL RIGHT, SO THE NEIGHBORHOOD STREET REBUILDS. THERE'S ABOUT 825,000 FOR ANOTHER YEAR OF THAT PROGRAM. AS YOUR MEETING ON MONDAY, WE DID APPROVE ABOUT $2 MILLION FOR THIS YEAR'S PROJECT. SO THIS WILL BE THE NEXT YEAR OF THAT. WE DO HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL DOLLARS FOR THE ALSBURY AND HULEN BRIDGE. THIS IS THE ONE THAT'S CONNECTING 1020 TO HULEN. IT'S ABOUT $6.4 MILLION. THAT IS UNDER DESIGN. WE EXPECT TO BE UNDER CONSTRUCTION NEXT YEAR. WE HAVE ANOTHER 446,000 FOR THE SIDEWALK PROGRAM THIS COMING YEAR, AND THAT'S $3 MILLION IS THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR SIDEWALKS. SO THIS IS THE FIRST PIECE OF THAT. WE HAVE SOME $85,000 FOR ADDING A LEFT TURN LANE AT LAKEWOOD AND 174. THIS IS A BOND PROGRAM PROJECT. THIS IS IDENTIFIED BY THE BOND COMMITTEE. WHEN WE WENT THROUGH THAT PROCESS. AND THEN WE HAVE $3.6 MILLION ASSOCIATED WITH THE POLICE EXPANSION. THIS WOULD BE FOR THE DESIGN OF THAT FACILITY. AS YOU KNOW, WE'RE DOING THE STAFFING STUDY. WE'LL BE COMING BACK WITH MORE INFORMATION ON THAT TO SEE EXACTLY HOW BIG THAT STATION NEEDS TO BE. BUT THIS IS THE DESIGN ELEMENT OF IT THAT'S INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET THAT WE HAVE ALSO $2.5 MILLION FOR 1020. THIS IS FUTURE ALSBURY BETWEEN LAKEWOOD AND HULEN, AND THIS WILL BE TO DO THE ENGINEERING AND DESIGN ON THAT PROJECT AS WELL AS TO START SOME RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION TO EVENTUALLY WIDEN THAT STRETCH OF ROADWAY. AND THEN SOME ADDITIONAL MONEY FOR 174 WIDENING TO LOOK AT THE SCHEMATIC AND ENGINEERING FOR SOME OF THAT WORK. SO AGAIN, SOME OF THE KEY PROJECTS, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, THE FIVE YEAR CIP DOES HAVE MUCH MORE IN THERE FOR STREETS AND TRAFFIC, $87 MILLION, TO BE EXACT, THAT ARE INCLUDED FOR THAT. SO WE'VE GOT A LOT OF FUNDING. YES, SIR. NO SIR, THIS WOULD BE JUST THE DESIGN OF WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE, THE FOOTPRINT AND THE ADDITIONAL LANES. IT DOES NOT INCLUDE THAT. SO COULD WE BE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF PUTTING ONE PROGRAM AND PIGGYBACK IT ON TO THE OTHER PROGRAM ON THE EGRESS OF THE.. I THINK TO THE EXTENT THAT WE CAN FIND SOME OF THOSE. YES. OR WE COULD TRY TO DESIGN THOSE, BUT IT WOULDN'T HAVE ANY FUNDING TO ACTUALLY CONSTRUCT THEM. YES, SIR. OK. LET'S TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PUBLIC SAFETY ENHANCEMENTS. AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, 16 NEW POSITIONS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET FOR PUBLIC SAFETY. AND I'LL TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE KEY PIECES OF THAT. WE'VE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THE SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICER. SO THERE'S THREE NEW SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS OR SROS INCLUDED IN THIS BUDGET FOR THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT. THAT'S ABOUT $370,000. AND THAT COST WILL BE SPLIT BETWEEN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND THE CITY. WE ALSO HAVE TWO LIEUTENANTS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THIS PROPOSED BUDGET, ONE IN PATROL AND ONE IN ADMIN. THAT WILL BE CONTINGENT UPON THE STAFFING STUDY THAT'S UNDERWAY. BUT I HAVE INCLUDED SOME DOLLARS FOR THAT BASED ON THE STRATEGIC PLAN OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. BUT AGAIN, IF WE GET INFORMATION BACK FROM THE STAFFING STUDY THAT SAYS IT SHOULDN'T BE LIEUTENANTS, IT SHOULD BE OTHER POSITIONS, THEN WE'LL CONSIDER THOSE IN LIEU OF IT. RON, I GUESS RIGHT NOW I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE 550,000. IT'S TWO LIEUTENANTS. TWO VEHICLES. CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT THAT 550,000? I BELIEVE POLICE SHOULD BE PAID WELL, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S ALL THE. SO THE THE VEHICLE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT POSITION IS ABOUT $85,000. SO THAT'S THE VEHICLE AND ALL OF THE EQUIPMENT THAT'S ON THAT. AND IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, I BELIEVE THE EQUIPMENT ON VEHICLES NOW IS ACTUALLY MORE EXPENSIVE THAN THE VEHICLE ITSELF, WHICH IS HARD TO BELIEVE. [00:25:06] BUT THAT'S THE COMPUTERS, ALL THE EQUIPMENT THAT GOES INTO THAT. AND I KNOW THE CHIEF AND HIS TEAM COULD EXPLAIN THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL, BUT IT'S ABOUT 85,000 FOR THAT VEHICLE. THE ADMIN POSITION IS A LITTLE BIT LESS. I THINK THAT'S ABOUT IN THAT 40 TO 50000 RANGE FOR THAT VEHICLE. YOU HAVE 43,000 FOR THAT VEHICLE. AND THEN THE SALARY AND BENEFITS FOR THE POSITION FOR EACH OF THOSE IS 170,000. SO THAT'S THE FULLY LOADED COST OF THE SALARY, PLUS HEALTH INSURANCE, PENSION CONTRIBUTIONS, ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT GO INTO PAYING FOR AN EMPLOYEE, WHAT WE CALL A FULLY LOADED NUMBER. IT'S EXPENSIVE. PER EMPLOYEE. PER EMPLOYEE. 170 YES, MA'AM. THAT'S THAT'S NOT SALARY, BUT THAT'S ALL OF THE COSTS THAT IT TAKES TO SUPPORT EMPLOYEE. HOW MUCH IS THE SALARY? I WOULD PROBABLY GUESS IN THE ONE TWENTIES, BUT I DON'T KNOW, SOMETHING PROBABLY IN THAT RANGE. WE WE MAY HAVE TO CHECK TO SEE THE EXACT FIGURE. I'M SURE WE COULD GET THAT FOR YOU, BUT I THINK IT'S PROBABLY IN THAT MAGNITUDE SOMEWHERE IN THAT RANGE. OKAY. THANK YOU. IT HELPS ME UNDERSTAND THE NUMBERS. YES, SIR. IT'S A LOT OF MONEY. I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND. ON THE THE NEXT PIECE I WAS GOING TO MENTION TO YOU ARE THE THE THREE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMUNICATION SPECIALIST. SO THIS IS THE THE DISPATCHERS THAT WE'RE ADDING. AND THIS IS RELATED TO THE EMS TRANSITION THAT WE TALKED TO YOU ABOUT SEVERAL MONTHS AGO. SO THOSE WERE INCLUDED IN THIS BUDGET AS WELL AS AN EVIDENCE TECHNICIAN AND A RECORDS CLERK. THOSE ARE FOR MIDYEAR AND THOSE ARE ALSO CONTINGENT UPON THE STAFFING STUDY THAT WE'RE CONDUCTING. BUT THOSE ARE THE THE MAJOR ONES THAT WE HAD IN POLICE, THE TWO LIEUTENANTS, THE EVIDENCE TECHNICIAN RECORDS AND SROS. THOSE ARE THE KEYS. SO SEVEN POSITIONS IN TOTAL FOR POLICE. WE ALSO ARE ADDING SIX FIREFIGHTERS. AND THIS IS ALSO RELATED TO THE NEW EMS FUNCTION, THE TRANSPORT FUNCTION THAT WE'VE TALKED TO YOU ABOUT THIS. WE HAD THE THIRD AMBULANCE UNIT THAT WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF DISCUSSIONS WITH YOU. SO NINE IN TOTAL THAT ARE RELATED TO THE EMS OPERATIONS. THOSE ARE ALL PART OF THE NUMBERS AND THE PROJECTIONS THAT WE HAD LOOKED AT PREVIOUSLY AS PART OF THE PERFORMANCE THAT WE DID ON THAT SERVICE. BUT NINE ARE INCLUDED FOR THAT PURPOSE. WE ALSO HAVE $150,000 FOR SOME UPGRADES TO THE OUTDOOR WARNING SYSTEM. AND THERE ARE TWO VEHICLES THAT WE'VE INCLUDED FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, A MEDICAL ARMORED RESCUE VEHICLE AND A MIDSIZE MOBILE COMMAND POST. AND THESE ARE INCLUDED. BUT AS WE TALKED ABOUT WITH THE COUNCIL, THESE ARE GOING TO ALSO BE CONTINGENT UPON THE STAFFING ANALYSIS. SO WE'VE ASKED THE COMPANY, MATRIX CONSULTING, TO LOOK AT OUR EQUIPMENT NEEDS AND TO SEE WHAT TYPE OF EQUIPMENT THAT WE WOULD NEED FOR THIS. BUT SOME OF THE VEHICLES THAT WE HAVE OR NEED TO BE REPLACED, THE COMMAND POST AND THE TRANSPORT VEHICLE IS OR THE ARMORED RESCUE VEHICLE. EXCUSE ME. THAT'S SOMETHING WE DON'T HAVE, BUT WE BELIEVE THAT WE NEED TO HAVE THAT CAPABILITY. AND SO THAT'S WHAT'S ADDED. SO IT'S ABOUT 700,000. SO ALL VERY EXPENSIVE PIECES OF EQUIPMENT, VERY EXPENSIVE PERSONNEL. BUT WE BELIEVE IT'S A CRITICAL AREA THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED IN THE BUDGET. ALL RIGHT. SO AS WE LOOK AT OUR PUBLIC SAFETY, ONE OF THE THINGS I ALWAYS LIKE TO SHOW IS KIND OF OUR RELATIVE POSITION IN TERMS OF STAFFING COMPARED TO OTHER CITIES. WE'VE DONE THIS THE LAST FEW YEARS. YOU CAN SEE HOW WE'VE WE'VE ADVANCED SEVEN OFFICERS PER THOUSAND TO NOW WITH THIS BUDGET WE'RE PROPOSING 1.77 PER 1000. THIS IS NOT THE ONLY WAY TO LOOK AT STAFFING. THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER DETAILS THAT GO INTO DETERMINING WHAT'S THE APPROPRIATE STAFF OR DEMOGRAPHICS, CRIME OR, YOU KNOW, GEOGRAPHIC AREA, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. BUT WE WERE CLEARLY LOW IN THE PAST, AND WE'VE WE'VE MADE A LOT OF PROGRESS IN THIS AREA. AND I THINK WE'LL GET A LOT MORE DETAILS ON THIS WHEN WE GET THE STAFFING STUDY BACK TO HAVE SOME MORE PRECISION ABOUT EXACTLY HOW MANY WE NEED AND WHY. BUT I DO THINK IT'S A HELPFUL CHART. WE DID ADD THIS ONE TO THIS IS ONE THAT WE HAVEN'T SHOWN YOU IN THE PAST, BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS WAS HELPFUL WHEN WE LOOKED AT STAFFING FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TO SEE ALSO HOW MANY FIREFIGHTERS DO WE HAVE PER 1000 OF POPULATION. AND YOU CAN SEE WHERE WE WERE JUST A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, MORE IN THAT LOWER, THIRD LOWER QUARTER. NOW WE'RE MORE IN THAT MEDIAN THAT WE SEE FOR ALL THE CITIES REPRESENTED. I THINK ADDING THE EMS, CERTAINLY A LOT OF THESE OTHER CITIES ALREADY PROVIDED EMS SERVICES. SO THAT'S PART OF THE DISPARITY. BUT I THINK WE'RE IN A GOOD POSITION HERE FOR FOR FIRE AS WELL. COMPENSATION AND BENEFITS. AS YOU KNOW, OUR EMPLOYEES ARE OUR MOST IMPORTANT ASSET THAT WE HAVE. AND THE GENERAL FUND, ABOUT 70% OF ALL OF OUR COSTS ARE RELATED TO PERSONNEL. SO COMPENSATION AND BENEFITS IS AN IMPORTANT SUBJECT TO MAKE SURE WE SPEND TIME ON. WE'VE IT'S BEEN A VERY CHALLENGING YEAR WITH THE JOB MARKET, INFLATION AND ALL THE WAGE GROWTH THAT WE'VE SEEN. [00:30:06] WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF ADJUSTMENTS THAT WE'VE MADE TO KEEP PEOPLE CURRENT ACROSS THE CITY. WE TRIED TO DETAIL SOME OF THAT FOR YOU HERE. WE'VE ALSO PROVIDED EQUITY ADJUSTMENTS TO SOME OF OUR STAFFS TO GET THEM WHERE THEY NEED TO BE. AND RICK PRESENTED THAT TO YOU, I BELIEVE, IN JUNE AND TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THOSE DETAILS. BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR INCLUDES A THREE AND ONE HALF PERCENT AVERAGE FOR MERIT FOR ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES AND FOR OUR POLICE AND FIRE EMPLOYEES. IT INCLUDES A 2% ADJUSTMENT TO ALL OF THEIR STEPS, PLUS A 3% STEP. SO ABOUT A 5% INCREASE FOR THOSE EMPLOYEES. I'LL SHOW YOU KIND OF THE RANKINGS OF WHERE WE ARE IN TERMS OF PAY FOR PUBLIC SAFETY HERE IN JUST A MOMENT. BUT THOSE ARE THE TWO COMPONENTS. HEALTH INSURANCE, THERE'S NO INCREASE IN PREMIUMS FOR OUR EMPLOYEES THAT ARE PROPOSED WITH THIS OR THE CITY. SO WE FEEL LIKE WE HAVE VERY STRONG FUND BALANCES THERE AND WE'VE DONE A GOOD JOB OF MANAGING THOSE CLAIMS. SO WE DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY PRESSURE AT THAT POINT. WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT A NEAR SITE CLINIC. I KNOW RICK HAS BEEN LOOKING AT THAT TO SEE WHAT KIND OF OPTIONS THAT WE HAVE. WE'RE NOT READY TO BRING THAT FORWARD JUST YET, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO EVALUATE IF THAT'S FEASIBLE OR NOT AND HOW IT COULD IMPROVE HEALTH CARE AND ACCESS FOR OUR EMPLOYEES. AND THEN AS I WE'VE TALKED TO YOU BEFORE AS WELL, WE'VE ALSO BEEN PUTTING IN PLACE A NEW DEFERRED COMPENSATION PROVIDER, VOYA FINANCIAL WILL BE REPLACED, REPLACING MISSION SQUARED. AND THAT'S A NO COST ELEMENT FOR OUR EMPLOYEES, BUT IT GIVES THEM ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO SAVE FOR RETIREMENT AND MAXIMIZE THEIR BENEFITS. SO IN TERMS OF PAY, I THOUGHT THIS WAS IS HELPFUL, SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DID THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. WE CLEARLY HAD WE WERE NOT COMPETITIVE IN SOME POSITIONS 2 TO 3 YEARS AGO. AND WE'VE MADE SOME SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENTS WITH THE SUPPORT OF THE COUNCIL TO BRING OUR PAY UP DRAMATICALLY. AND SO YOU CAN SEE ON THE I'M GOING TO TRY THIS AND SEE IF IT WORKS. MY POINTER DOES WORK. SO ALL VARIOUS POSITIONS THAT WE'VE LISTED HERE ON THE LEFT AND YOU CAN SEE WHERE WE WERE IN 2020, 21 AND 22 AND HOW WE RANKED OUT OF ALL THE CITIES THAT WE'VE LOOKED AT. OUR GOAL IS TO STAY WITHIN THAT TOP 25%, TOP QUARTER OF ALL THE CITIES THAT WE SURVEY. AND WE'RE STILL THERE WITH THESE CHANGES THAT WE'RE PROPOSING IN THIS BUDGET. WE THINK WE THINK WE'LL BE VERY COMPETITIVE. THAT IS THE BEGINNING PAY. AND THIS SIDE OVER HERE IS TOP PAY FOR ALL THOSE POSITIONS. SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE STEPS, I KNOW SOME OF US KNOW HOW THE STEPS WORK AS YOU GO THROUGH ALL THE STEPS AND GET YOUR TOP PAY FOR ANY RANK. THIS IS HOW YOUR PAY WOULD COMPARE TO THESE OTHER CITIES. SO ALSO VERY COMPETITIVE HERE. NOW, THERE MAY BE SOME OTHER ADJUSTMENTS TO SOME OF THESE OTHER CITIES THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. WE'VE TRIED TO MAKE AN ESTIMATE OF WHAT WE THINK THEY'RE GOING TO DO ON THEIR PAY PLAN. THEY WILL PROBABLY BE SOME THAT THEY'LL DO A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN WHAT WE'RE ANTICIPATING, BUT WE THINK, RELATIVELY SPEAKING, WE'RE IN REALLY GOOD SHAPE HERE. SO WE'RE REALLY PROUD OF THAT. ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. THERE'S BEEN A LOT GOING ON. AND THIS AREA OF OUR CITY, AS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE ALLEY CATS DEVELOPMENT. THEY'VE BROKEN GROUND ON THEIR PROJECT AND WE EXPECT THAT TO GET UNDERWAY VERY, VERY QUICKLY. THE ELLISON STREET PROJECT, RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM CITY HALL, HAS BEEN WORKING FEVERISHLY, POURING FOUNDATIONS AND GETTING READY TO GO VERTICAL, HOPEFULLY IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS. AND THAT WILL INCLUDE A HEIM AND RAZZOO'S RESTAURANT, AS WELL AS ABOUT 12,000 SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE SPACE FOR THE CITY. AND THEN WE HAVE A NUMBER OF OTHER RESTAURANTS COMING IN TO THE CITY AND IT'S CHIPOTLE. AND I USED TO CALL IT DUTCH BROTHERS, MY DAUGHTERS INFORMED ME IT'S DUTCH BROS. YOU DON'T CALL IT DUTCH BROTHERS, BUT IT'S DUTCH BROS. TRYING, SALAD AND GO. I'M TRYING MY BEST. WING IT ON AND LOTS OF OTHER THINGS. SO LOTS HAPPENING IN THE RETAIL SECTOR THAT WE'VE SEEN. AS, YOU KNOW, THE CHISHOLM SUMMIT PROJECT, WE'RE CONTINUING TO MAKE A LOT OF PROGRESS ON THAT. WE EXPECT IN THE NEXT 60 DAYS OR SO TO HAVE A CONSTRUCTION PROJECT IN FRONT OF YOU, FOR YOU TO CONSIDER FOR THE ROAD CONSTRUCTION AS WELL AS THE SEWER LINE CONSTRUCTION WITH THAT. THAT WILL THEN TAKE ABOUT 18 MONTHS TO BUILD THAT INFRASTRUCTURE AND THEY WILL BE MOVING VERY QUICKLY TO START CONSTRUCTION OF ALL THE HOMES. WELL, ONE OF THE MAJOR COMPONENTS OF THAT PROJECT AS WELL IS HOOPER BUSINESS PARK. IT'S A 106 ACRE BUSINESS PARK THAT WE HAVE OUT THERE. WE'VE BEEN WORKING TO MASTER PLAN THAT AND TRY TO INCENTIVIZE SOME USERS TO COME IN THERE AND GET STARTED ON THAT PROJECT. AND THEN, AS YOU GUYS KNOW AS WELL, THE HIGH POINT BUSINESS PARK HAS BEEN VERY ACTIVE, LOTS OF ACTIVITY OUT THERE WITH SOME OF THE COLD STORAGE FACILITIES THAT HAVE COME ONLINE. SO WE'RE VERY PLEASED WITH WITH THOSE ACTIVITIES. AND THERE'S MORE TO COME, OF COURSE. OK. THAT'S ALL THE EASY STUFF OUT OF THE WAY. WE'LL KEEP ROLLING. NO ONE'S ASLEEP YET, SO THAT'S GOOD. THIS IS THE ORGANIZATION STRUCTURE OF THE OVERALL BUDGET. SO THIS IS JUST A LITTLE BIT OF AN ORG CHART. [00:35:02] SO YOU CAN SEE HOW THE ALL THE VARIOUS FUNDS WORK. AND I THINK THE IMPORTANT THING IS, IS THAT A LOT OF OUR FUNDS HAVE SPECIAL REVENUES THAT ARE DEDICATED EITHER BY LAW OR BY COUNCIL POLICY TO ONLY BE USED FOR CERTAIN THINGS. AND SO WE CREATE SEPARATE FUNDS TO TRACK THOSE REVENUES AND EXPENSES. SO A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF THAT WOULD BE HOTEL OCCUPANCY, TAXES BY LAW, BY STATE LAW, THEY CAN ONLY BE USED FOR CERTAIN THINGS. THEY CANNOT BE USED TO PAY POLICE OR FIRE OR STREETS. THEY HAVE TO BE USED FOR TOURISM RELATED ACTIVITIES. SO WE SEGREGATE THOSE. THAT'S TRUE WITH A LOT OF THESE OTHER FUNDS. THE MAJOR FUND THAT WE SPEND QUITE A BIT OF TIME FOCUSING ON IS THE GENERAL FUND HERE. OUT OF THE GOVERNMENTAL FUNDS, IT'S ABOUT $55 MILLION. THAT'S WHAT YOU TYPICALLY THINK ABOUT WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT LOCAL GOVERNMENT, POLICE, FIRE, PARKS, CODE LIBRARIES, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS ARE ALL FUNDED OUT OF THAT. BUT THERE'S A SERIES OF OTHER PROPRIETARY FUNDS AND THESE ARE MEANT TO BE REVENUES OR FEES THAT ARE GENERATED BY EACH OF THESE FUNDS THAT ARE GENERATED TO SUPPORT THOSE OPERATIONS. SO THEY'RE SELF SUPPORTING. AND THOSE WOULD INCLUDE OUR WATER AND SEWER FUND HERE, SOLID WASTE GOLF COURSE. WE ALSO HAVE WHAT WE CALL INTERNAL SERVICE FUNDS. SO THESE ARE FUNDS THAT CHARGE THE VARIOUS OTHER FUNDS TO PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES. SO THE SUPPORT SERVICES FUND WOULD BE INCLUDE YOUR IT OPERATIONS. SO A PORTION OF EVERY BUDGET PAYS A LITTLE BIT INTO THE IT FUND TO PAY FOR ALL OF THOSE COSTS. SO THAT'S THE STRUCTURE OF THAT ALL TOLD US ABOUT $204 MILLION IS THE OPERATING BUDGET FOR THIS COMING YEAR. BUT WE'LL TALK ABOUT EACH ONE OF THESE INDIVIDUALLY. ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE LOOK AT TO WITH THE BUDGET IS, AGAIN, AS I MENTIONED TO YOU, PART OF THAT FINANCIAL SUSTAINABILITY IS WE DON'T JUST LOOK AT ONE YEAR, WE TRY TO LOOK AT THE LONGER TERM FORECASTS OF EVERYTHING THAT WE DO. EACH OF THE MAJOR FUNDS HAS A LONG TERM FINANCIAL PLAN. WE LOOK AT AND LOOK AT AND FOCUS ON BALANCING A RECURRING REVENUES WITH OUR RECURRING EXPENSES. THAT WAY, IF WE HAVE A FUND BALANCE THIS YEAR, WE DON'T TRY TO PUT A BUDGET TOGETHER THAT RELIES ON THAT FUND BALANCE TO BE THERE, BUT TWO OR THREE YEARS LATER, THERE'S NOT ENOUGH REVENUE TO PAY FOR THAT POSITION WE'VE ADDED OR THE OPERATION THAT WE'VE ADDED, THEN YOU HAVE A PROBLEM. SO WE LOOK AT THAT IN THE BUDGET AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU UNDERSTAND THE LONG TERM IMPACTS OF THE DECISIONS THAT YOU MAKE TODAY. SO THAT'S A BIG PART OF WHAT WE DO. I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF SPREADSHEETS AND THINGS THAT WE BRING TO YOU OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS, BUT THAT'S PART OF THAT, IS TO SHOW YOU THAT LONG TERM IMPACT SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT YOU'RE DOING OVER TIME. ALL RIGHT, LET'S JUMP IN AND LOOK AT THE GENERAL FUND. SO PROPERTY TAX VALUES ARE ALWAYS A KEY PART OF ANY DISCUSSION OF THE GENERAL FUND. SO WE'VE PUT TOGETHER A LITTLE TABLE HERE SO YOU CAN SEE HOW MUCH BASE VALUE WE'VE HAD EACH YEAR. NEW CONSTRUCTION WOULD BE ANYTHING THAT'S COME ONTO THE ROLL SINCE THE LAST YEAR. SO THIS WOULD BE NEW HOUSES THAT ARE BUILT, NEW RESTAURANTS, NEW COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY, ANYTHING THAT'S BEEN BUILT AND PUT ON THE ROLL, THAT'S CALLED NEW CONSTRUCTION. THAT GIVES US A TOTAL NET TAXABLE VALUE. AND THEN WE'VE SHOWN THE CHANGES HERE. SO YOU CAN SEE THE VALUES THAT FROM ONE FROM 21 TO 22 HAVE GONE UP SUBSTANTIALLY, ABOUT 14.7%. THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE TIFF AND SOME FROZEN VALUES AND SOME OTHER COMPLEXITIES THAT WE LOOK AT. BUT IT'S A VERY SIZABLE INCREASE AND REALLY A GOOD INDICATION OF THE OVERALL ECONOMIC HEALTH OF BURLESON. I THINK THAT'S A REALLY GOOD THING. THIS IS AN ALL TIME HIGH IN TERMS OF APPRAISED VALUES. ANOTHER WAY, JUST TO SHOW YOU THIS GRAPHICALLY, WE PUT TOGETHER THIS GRAPH AND AGAIN, THIS INCLUDES ALL VALUES, THE CERTIFIED VALUES, BUT ABOUT 5.2 BILLION IN VALUES, AGAIN, ALL TIME HIGH FOR 2022. SO VERY STRONG GROWTH. AND IT'S GREAT TO SEE. THE ECONOMY DOING SO WELL HERE. SO OUR ASSUMPTIONS FOR THE GENERAL FUND. THIS IS KIND OF HOW WE PUT TOGETHER THE TAX RATE. I DID WANT TO MENTION THAT THERE'S AN ERROR ON THIS CHART WHERE WE HAVE THE GENERAL FUND TAX RATE. THIS IS A DECREASE OF 2.49. IT'S ACTUALLY A DECREASE OF 3.25. IF YOU ADDED THAT NUMBER UP, IT WOULDN'T ADD. SO OUR MISTAKE ON THAT, IT'S A DECREASE OF 3.25 ON THE OPERATING RATE FOR THE GENERAL FUND AND INCREASE ON THE DEBT SERVICE RATE. IT GIVES YOU AN OVERALL NET DECREASE OF 2.87 CENTS. BUT THIS IS HOW WE LOOKED AT AND TALK TO YOU FOR MANY MONTHS ABOUT HOW WE LOOK AT THE GENERAL FUND. WE'VE ASSUMED 3% GROWTH IN EXISTING VALUES GOING FORWARD AND THAT THE CITY WOULD CAPTURE THAT 3% GROWTH IN REVENUE MOVING FORWARD. WE ALSO HAVE THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION. SO NOT ONLY DO WE HAVE THE 2% THIS COMING YEAR THAT WE'RE PROPOSING, BUT WE ALSO SHOW IT GOING UP 1% EACH YEAR, EVERY AFTER EVERY YEAR AFTER THAT. SO IT WOULD CONTINUE TO GROW EVERY YEAR. SO NEXT YEAR, THE YEAR AFTER, IT WOULD BE THREE, THEN FOUR OR FIVE AND SIX SO FORTH. IS THERE A CAP ON THAT 20%? [00:40:01] 20% IS THE CAP. SO MANY YEARS BEFORE WE THINK WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET THERE. AND THEN THESE ARE SOME OF THE VALUES THAT WE HAVE TO CALCULATE WITH WHAT'S CALLED THE TRUTH IN TAXATION GUIDELINES FROM THE COMPTROLLER, AS I MENTIONED THIS TO YOU, BUT I THINK BACK IN JULY WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THIS OR SOME THINGS THAT YOU'LL BE ASKED TO DO IS YOU APPROVE THE BUDGET SPECIFIC MOTIONS, AND THESE ARE RATES THAT YOU HAVE TO PUBLISH AS PART OF THAT PROCESS. BUT WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT RATES, THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION RATE, THAT'S THAT'S THE GENERAL FUND RATE. THAT'S THE MONEY THAT SUPPORTS THE GENERAL FUND. AND THEN YOU HAVE THE DEBT RATE. AND THAT TOGETHER IS THE 65.70.02 CENTS PER $100 EVALUATION. AGAIN, THAT'S A ALMOST THREE CENT DECREASE COMPARED TO THE LAST YEAR, AND IT'S THE LOWEST SINCE FY 2008. THERE'S ALSO A NO NEW REVENUE RATE THAT IS CALCULATED. THIS WOULD BE THE RATE THAT WOULD NOT RAISE ANY ADDITIONAL REVENUE COMPARED TO THE LAST YEAR. IT'S DIFFERENT FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO'VE BEEN ON THE COUNCIL FOR A WHILE, IT'S DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE USED TO CALL THE EFFECTIVE RATE, BUT IT'S A SIMILAR CONCEPT. AND THEN THE VOTER APPROVAL TAX RATE, THIS IS ALSO KNOWN AS THE ROLLBACK RATE FOR THOSE OF YOU. FOR THOSE OF YOU. I'VE BEEN ON THE COUNCIL FOR A WHILE. THERE USED TO BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO RAISE MORE THAN 8% MORE REVENUE THAN THE PRIOR YEAR. THAT WAS CALLED THE 8% ROLLBACK RATE. SENATE BILL TWO, MA'AM, WAS THAT LIKE THREE OR FOUR YEARS AGO WAS PASSED BY THE LEGISLATURE THAT REDUCED THAT FROM 8% DOWN TO THREE AND A HALF PERCENT. SO THE THE VOTER APPROVAL TAX RATE IS THE THREE AND ONE HALF PERCENT THAT YOU COULD GO UP TO. SO THAT'S THE MAXIMUM YOU COULD GO TO UNLESS YOU WANTED TO HAVE AN ELECTION. SO THE RATE WE PROPOSED IS ABOUT HALF A PENNY LESS THAN THAT VOTER APPROVED TAX RATE. WHAT WE'VE TALKED TO THE COUNCIL ABOUT IS TRYING TO GRAB ABOUT 3% MORE IN REVENUE ON EXISTING PROPERTIES THAN WE HAD IN THE PRIOR YEAR. THAT WOULD BE AT THREE AND ONE HALF PERCENT. SO JUST TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE, THAT WOULD BE THE RATE. ANYTHING ABOVE THAT WOULD BE A TAX INCREASE FOR OUR CITIZENS, CORRECT? ANY OF THAT WOULD BE. MORE REVENUE THAT WOULD BE COMING IN. YES, SIR. SO IF I IF I VOTE FOR ANYTHING ABOVE NO NEW REVENUE, THEN I'M VOTING FOR A TAX INCREASE. YOU'RE VOTING FOR INCREASING THE REVENUES? NOT NECESSARILY FOR A TAX RATE INCREASE. MARTIN HELP ME UNDERSTAND. IT'S REVENUE. IT'S MORE REVENUE THAT WOULD BE COLLECTED FROM THE TAXPAYERS. THAT'S CORRECT. SO THEY'D BE PAYING SLIGHTLY MORE FOR THE SAME PROPERTY THAT THEY HAVE BECAUSE THEIR VALUE HAS GONE UP. THEIR RATE COMES DOWN A LITTLE BIT. THEY MIGHT PAY A LITTLE BIT MORE. AND I HAVE A CHART HERE IN A MOMENT, I'LL SHOW YOU WHAT OUR PROPOSED RATE WOULD DO IN TERMS OF WHAT THE AVERAGE HOMEOWNER WOULD PAY. AND THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THAT IF I DON'T WANT TO RAISE TAXES ON OUR TAXPAYERS, IF I DON'T WANT THEM PAYING MORE IN PROPERTY TAXES, THEN THAT WOULD BE THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE. YES, SIR. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I'M CLARIFYING. THAT'S RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. HERE'S THAT LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY ON THE TAX RATE ITSELF. AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE IN THIS CHART SINCE 2013-14, IT WAS ABOUT $0.69. IT HAS GONE DOWN PRECIPITOUSLY OVER THE LAST FOUR YEARS. THIS IS THE FOURTH STRAIGHT YEAR IN A ROW THAT THE TAX RATE HAS BEEN PROPOSED FROM A HIGH OF 7350 BACK IN 2018, 2019. SO IT GIVES YOU A LITTLE BIT OF JUST A HISTORY OF THAT. AND YOU CAN SEE ALSO THE GENERAL FUND COMPONENT AND THE AND THE DEBT COMPONENT, WHICH ARE PIECES OF THAT. THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION. I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT ALREADY. THE FIRST YEAR, LAST YEAR WAS ONE THAT WAS THE FIRST ONE WE'D EVER ADDED. THIS INCREASES THAT TO 2%. THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION HAS TO BE IT'S A MINIMUM OF $5,000 OR A PERCENTAGE OF YOUR PROPERTY. SO FOR THE AVERAGE HOME VALUE, SINCE OUR AVERAGE HOME VALUE IS ABOUT $250,000, THOSE HOMEOWNERS WOULD GET THE $5,000 MINIMUM EXEMPTION. AND IF YOUR HOME'S MORE THAN 500,000, THEN YOU WOULD GET MORE THAN THAT BASED ON THE PERCENTAGE OF YOUR HOME. SO BUT OVER TIME, AS WE INCREASE THAT PERCENTAGE, THAT WILL BE LESS OF AN ISSUE. ONCE YOU'RE AT 5%, 3%, 4% OF OF THE OVERALL VALUE, THEN YOUR ACTUAL HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION WILL BE MORE THAN THE MINIMUM, IF THAT MAKES ANY SENSE. SO THAT'S HOW WE'VE CALCULATED THAT FOR YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER STANFORD, THIS IS THE CHART I WAS MENTIONING TO YOU BEFORE. SO WE'VE SO WE'VE LISTED WHAT THE AVERAGE HOME VALUE WAS IN 22, WHAT THE TAX RATE WAS, WHAT THAT LEVY WAS, WAS THE $1,591, WAS THE AVERAGE TAX BILL. FOR 23, THAT VALUE HAS INCREASED TO 53. SO A SUBSTANTIAL INCREASE IN THE VALUE, BUT WE'VE DROPPED THE RATE THAT GIVES YOU A TAX LEVY OF ABOUT $1668, BUT THEN YOU DO HAVE THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION. [00:45:06] AND SO THE NET TAX BILL WOULD BE 1635. SO IT'S ABOUT A $43 AVERAGE INCREASE FOR AN AVERAGE RESIDENT IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT 350 A MONTH, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 366 EXCUSE ME. I DO HAVE IT ON THE SCREEN. IN TERMS OF SALES TAX. SALES TAXES CONTINUE TO BE VERY, VERY STRONG. WE'VE BEEN VERY PLEASED WITH THE COLLECTIONS THAT CONTINUE TO INCREASE VERY SIGNIFICANTLY OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS. LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, WE'RE ANTICIPATING OVER $14 MILLION IN GENERAL FUND SALES TAX ALONE. OF COURSE, YOU ALSO HAVE A 4A OR 4B COMPONENT AS WELL THAT ARE GOING UP AS WELL. WE'LL SHOW YOU THOSE TWO. BUT JUST TO SEE THIS GRAPHICALLY, THIS IS ALSO AT AN ALL TIME HIGH FOR SALES TAX COLLECTIONS. SO VERY, VERY STRONG. A COUPLE OF CHARTS HERE, WHICH JUST TO KIND OF SHOW YOU FOR THE GENERAL FUND WHAT MAKES UP OUR REVENUES AND THEN WE'LL SHOW YOU KIND OF WHAT MAKES UP OUR EXPENSES. AND NO SURPRISE HERE ON THE GENERAL FUND, BUT ABOUT HALF OF THE GENERAL FUND IS RELATED TO PROPERTY VALUES OR PROPERTY TAXES. AND YOU'LL SEE ON THE NEXT CHART THAT MORE THAN HALF OF MY EXPENSES IN THE GENERAL FUND ARE RELATED TO PUBLIC SAFETY. SO, IN FACT, ALL THE TAX DOLLARS THAT ARE COLLECTED IN THE GENERAL FUND, ALL THE PROPERTY TAX DOLLARS ARE NOT ENOUGH TO PAY FOR POLICE, FIRE AND DISPATCH SERVICES, WHICH IS SOMEWHAT UNUSUAL FOR PEOPLE TO HEAR SOMETIMES. BUT IT'S NOT THAT UNCOMMON. SALES TAX IS ANOTHER LARGE REVENUE THAT WE HAVE, AND COMBINED WITH PROPERTY TAX, IT'S ABOUT 73% OF ALL OF OUR REVENUE. SO ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE SPENT SO MUCH TIME TALKING TO YOU ABOUT THE ASSUMPTIONS FOR THE GENERAL FUND AND WHAT TYPE OF REVENUE INCREASES WE WOULD HAVE GOING FORWARD IS BECAUSE PROPERTY TAXES ARE A MAJOR COMPONENT OF WHAT WE DO IN THE GENERAL FUND. AND IF YOU HAVE MORE THAN HALF OF YOUR COSTS AND PUBLIC SAFETY THAT YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GOING TO GROW SLIGHTLY OVER TIME AS SALARIES AND NEW POSITIONS NEED TO BE ADDED. WE BELIEVE YOU NEED TO HAVE SOME REVENUE GROWTH TO HELP OFFSET THOSE COSTS. AND IF YOU HAVE 50% OF YOUR REVENUES THAT AREN'T GROWING AT ALL, THAT'S A PROBLEM OVER TIME. NOT SAYING YOU CAN'T DO IT ONE YEAR OR TWO YEARS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT OVER TIME YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE SOME GROWTH IN THAT REVENUE SOURCE, OTHERWISE YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO PAY FOR ALL THE DEMANDS THAT YOU HAVE ON THE CITY. SO HOPEFULLY THAT'S HELPFUL. AND THEN IF YOU LOOK AT TYPES OF COSTS THAT WE HAVE, I MENTIONED THIS TO YOU BEFORE, ABOUT 70% OF ALL THE COSTS IN GENERAL FUND ARE PERSONNEL RELATED, AND THAT'S PART OF THE FUND STRUCTURE THAT WE HAVE BECAUSE WE TAKE ALL OF OUR CAPITAL AND IT'S IN A SEPARATE FUND AND OUR DEBT SERVICE FUND OR CIP. BUT IT'S A SERVICE ORIENTED BUSINESS THAT WE'RE IN FOR THE GENERAL FUND, POLICE AND FIRE PARKS, LIBRARIES, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. YOU THINK ABOUT ALL WHAT WE DO IS SERVICE ORIENTED, SO IT'S PEOPLE CENTERED AND THAT'S THE MAJORITY OF THE COST. AND THEN YOU CAN SEE BY DEPARTMENT WHAT WE'VE SHOWN YOU HERE IS SOME OF THE BIG PIECES, AS I MENTIONED TO YOU, POLICE AND FIRE ARE VERY LARGE COMPONENTS OF IT. POLICE, FIRE AND DISPATCH IS ABOUT 51%. THE OVERALL BUDGET, JUST THOSE THREE AREAS. AND YOU CAN SEE PUBLIC WORKS IS ANOTHER LARGE AREA THAT WE HAVE WITH OUR STREET OPERATION AND ALL THE VARIETY OF OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT WE HAVE. SO THE SUMMARY OF ASSUMPTIONS. THESE ARE ALL IMPORTANT FOR US BECAUSE AS WE USE THESE, WE KIND OF PUT TOGETHER THAT FINANCIAL PLAN, THAT FIVE YEAR FINANCIAL PLAN THAT WILL SHOW YOU. BUT THE EXISTING VALUE GROWTH AT 3% THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT FOR EXISTING PROPERTY TAXPAYERS, THAT THEY WOULD PAY 3% ON AVERAGE MORE EACH YEAR. THAT'S BASED BAKED INTO THIS PLAN. WE ALSO MAKE AN ASSUMPTION FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION. SO THIS IS AN ESTIMATE FOR HOW MANY NEW HOMES, NEW BUSINESSES, WHAT THE VALUES OF THOSE WOULD BE OVER TIME. 23 THAT 147 MILLION, THAT'S AN ACTUAL OF WHAT ACTUALLY OCCURRED THIS YEAR. AND THEN FOR GOING FORWARD, WE'RE ASSUMING 125 AND THAT WOULD GROW SLIGHTLY EACH YEAR GOING FORWARD. AND THAT IS A CONSERVATIVE FIGURE BASED ON WHAT WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST. SALES TAX GROWTH. VERY STRONG THIS YEAR. I'M SORRY, BRIAN. YES, SIR. IF WE DON'T MAKE THE 3%, WHAT'S THE EFFECT? IS IT BAD IF WE HIT ONE AND A HALF? 3% IS ON THE EXISTING VALUE GROWTH. IT'S ABOUT 650,000 A YEAR, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. IF WE DON'T HIT THAT NUMBER IT'S NOT CATASTROPHIC FOR US. NOT ANY ONE YEAR, BUT OVER. IT HAS A CUMULATIVE EFFECT THAT IT WOULD HAVE AN EFFECT FOR YOU OVER TIME, THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS TO YOUR SPENDING PLAN IF YOU DIDN'T HIT THAT, WHICH WE DID. WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT. IF WE DON'T HIT THOSE, IF FOR SOME REASON VALUES DON'T GROW WHERE WE THINK WE ARE OR THE COUNCIL DOESN'T WANT TO HAVE A TAX RATE THAT GENERATES THAT REVENUE, YOU WOULD NEED TO MAKE SOME CHANGES TO YOUR SPENDING PLAN. ALL RIGHT. BRIAN IS ON THE NEW CONSTRUCTION. [00:50:03] IS THAT AN ESTIMATE OF 3% AS WELL OR WHAT'S YOUR HOW HAVE YOU PLANNED OUT THE.. SO THE SO THE 125. WELL, THE 147 IS AN ACTUAL NUMBER OF WHAT WE ACTUALLY GOT THIS YEAR. AND THEN WE WENT BACK SEVERAL YEARS TO LOOK AT HOW MUCH VALUE HAD BEEN ADDED TO THE ROLE EACH YEAR. AND THAT'S HOW WE CAME UP WITH THE 125. AND THEN WE SHOW IT GROWING BY 2% EVERY YEAR. 2%. YES. SO THAT'S THAT'S VERY WE'RE TRYING TO BE VERY WE'RE TRYING TO BE VERY CONSERVATIVE. AND YOU STILL HAVE GOOD NUMBERS. YES, MA'AM. THAT'S THE HOPE. SO THIS WON'T TAKE INTO ACCOUNT EVEN EVEN THE NEW CONSTRUCTION WE HAVE THAT'S COMING UP OUT IN THE CHISHOLM SUMMIT. YES, THAT'S RIGHT. THAT'S COMPLETELY SEPARATE FROM THIS. AND THAT'S THE POINT I WAS TRYING TO MAKE EARLIER IS WE WEREN'T COUNTING ON THAT PROJECT TO MAKE OUR OPERATIONS WHOLE FROM A REVENUE STANDPOINT THAT THAT'S COMPLETELY SEPARATE, THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FUNDING A FIRE STATION. IF FOR SOME REASON THAT PROJECT DOES NOT MOVE AS QUICKLY AS WE THINK IT DOES, THEN WE MOVE OUT THE FIRE STATION AS WELL BECAUSE YOU WOULDN'T NEED IT UNTIL THAT PROJECT'S READY. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO TIE THOSE TWO TOGETHER. YES, SIR. I'D SAY THIS IF WHEN WE START MEETING THOSE NUMBERS, WELL, THAT MEANS OUR GROWTH IS STOPPED. AND RIGHT NOW, IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT'S GOING TO STOP ANY TIME SOON. SO I MYSELF AM NOT TOO WORRIED ABOUT YOU MEETING YOUR NUMBERS. IT'LL BE MUCH LATER ON THAT WE AND MAYBE IN MY LIFETIME IT MAY NOT HAPPEN BECAUSE WE HAVE WE GROW EVERY YEAR. AND YOUR NUMBERS, YOU'RE RIGHT, ARE ACTUALLY VERY LOW, WHICH IS VERY, VERY GOOD. YEAH. WE'RE TRYING TO HAVE IT SOMEWHAT AS AN INFLATIONARY WHAT USED TO BE OLD INFLATIONARY TYPE ADJUSTMENTS THAT YOU'D HAVE. YOU KNOW, WE'RE AS YOU GUYS KNOW, WE'RE EXPERIENCING 9 TO 10% INFLATION RIGHT NOW. BUT THIS IS INFLATIONARY TYPE OF ADJUSTMENT THAT YOU'D HAVE EVERY YEAR ABOUT 3%. IT'S KIND OF WHAT WE'VE LOOKED AT. SO IT'S LESS THAN THE CURRENT YEAR OF HOPEFULLY THAT WILL CHANGE AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE. WE'LL SEE. OKAY. SO COMPENSATION. WE TALKED. EXCUSE ME. SALES TAX. I DIDN'T WANT TO MENTION THIS TO YOU. SO VERY STRONG GROWTH THIS YEAR, 12%. BUT FOR GOING FORWARD, AGAIN, ANOTHER INFLATIONARY TYPE OF ADJUSTMENT LOOKING FORWARD THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE A SPECIFIC SALES TAX FORECAST FOR CHISHOLM SUMMIT. WE DID A WHOLE ECONOMIC ANALYSIS OF THAT PROJECT. IT WAS AT BUILD OUT ABOUT $3 MILLION NET REVENUE TO THE CITY AFTER ALL OF OUR EXPENSES AT BUILDOUT. SO IT'S A VERY LARGE ELEMENT. I DO NOT HAVE THAT IN THE NUMBERS. SO AGAIN, I HOPE THAT'S ANOTHER ELEMENT THAT'S TRYING TO BE CONSERVATIVE HERE, BUT WE'VE NOT ESTIMATED ANY BUILDING PERMIT FEES RELATED TO THAT, ANY SALES TAX FOR THE HOUSES THAT ARE BEING BUILT. SO HOPEFULLY ALL OF THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WILL BE ON THE UPSIDE FOR US. LOOKING OUT IN THE FUTURE COMPENSATION AGAIN, THE THREE AND A HALF PERCENT AVERAGE IS WHAT WE'VE WE'VE PLANNED, PLUS THE ELIGIBLE STEP INCREASES FOR POLICE AND FIRE. SO WE'VE PUT ALL OF THAT IN THERE. THE TAX RATE, WE'RE HERE SHOWING IT REMAINING FLAT. AND AGAIN, THAT'S THE 3% TRYING TO GRAB THAT 3% ADDITIONAL REVENUE FROM JUST GROWTH IN APPRAISED VALUES. IF THE APPRAISED VALUES GROW FASTER THAN THAT, THEN THE RATE WOULD COME DOWN LOWER THAN THAT. BUT THAT'S THAT'S JUST AN ASSUMPTION FOR THIS. CASH FUNDING OF THE CAPITAL PROJECTS. WE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS WITH THE COUNCIL OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS ABOUT THIS. WE'VE INCLUDED $8 MILLION IN CASH FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS IN THE FIVE YEAR PLAN, TWO AND A HALF MILLION FOR THIS COMING YEAR, PLUS ANOTHER TWO AND ONE HALF FOR 24. AND THE REASON WE THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT IS THAT, AGAIN, FINANCIAL FLEXIBILITY, THAT IF FOR SOME REASON THERE IS AN ECONOMIC RECESSION OR A DOWNTURN OR WHATNOT, THOSE ARE PROJECTS THAT YOU COULD DECIDE YOU WANT TO DELAY OR NOT FUND AT ALL. AND YOU HAVE THOSE DOLLARS THAT COULD BE USED FOR ANY OTHER PURPOSE TO HELP YOU GET THROUGH A TOUGHER PERIOD. AND THE OTHER THING IS, IF YOU DO THE CASH FUNDING HERE, IT REDUCES YOUR FUTURE DEBT SERVICE COSTS. SO THERE IS A SAVINGS DOWN THE ROAD FOR THAT AS WELL. WE DO HAVE THE FUTURE BOND SALES THAT WE'VE SHOWN HERE AS WELL. AGAIN, THAT'S THAT'S NOT SO MUCH A GENERAL FUND COMPONENT, BUT JUST TO SHOW YOU HOW WE KIND OF LOOK FINANCIALLY, WE'VE GOT ALL OF THE ONES PROGRAMED IN FOR NOT ONLY THE VOTER APPROVED BOND PROGRAM THAT WE HAD, BUT SOME OF THE OTHER CAPITAL THAT WE TALKED ABOUT. THOSE ARE ALL PROGRAMED INTO THESE NUMBERS THAT YOU SEE HERE. SO IT'S A LOT OF ASSUMPTIONS AND I APOLOGIZE FOR HOW SMALL THIS IS. BUT HERE WE'RE SHOWING YOU THE GENERAL FUND FORECAST. SO AGAIN, WE'VE SHOWN YOU THIS BEFORE, BUT WE START WITH WHAT WE CALL OUR BEGINNING FUND BALANCE AT THE TOP HERE. AND THEN EACH FISCAL YEAR AND WE LOOK AT WHAT THE PROPERTY TAX IS GOING TO BE. HERE'S THE CHISOLM SUMMIT PROPERTY TAX REVENUE THAT'S ESTIMATED AGAIN IT'S A CAPITAL PROJECT ASSOCIATED WITH THAT DOWN AT THE VERY END. WE HAVE OUR HOMESTEAD EXTENSION, WHICH IS A DECREASE IN PROPERTY TAX REVENUE THAT WE HAVE. SO WE SHOW THAT GOING UP AND GROWING SLIGHTLY EVERY YEAR THAT YOU CAN SEE THAT SALES TAX OR OTHER REVENUES. [00:55:07] THEN WE SHOW OUR BASE EXPENSES THAT WE HAVE. ARPA FUNDS THAT WILL BE USED TO OFFSET ANY OF THOSE. YOU'RE GOING TO SEE ALL OF OUR SUPPLEMENTALS. SO ALL OF THE BIG SHEETS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER, OF ALL THE ALL THE POSITIONS AND PROGRAMS THAT WERE RECOMMENDED OR REQUESTED BY ALL THE DEPARTMENTS, ALL THE ONES THAT I FUNDED OR RECOMMENDED TO FUND OR SHOWN IN THAT LINE, THE SUPPLEMENTAL. SO YOU'LL HAVE THE WORKSHEETS IN THE BACK TIE TO THOSE NUMBERS. BUT IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE MAKE ESTIMATES FOR WE KNOW AS THE CITY GROWS AND CHANGES IN THE FUTURE, THERE'S GOING TO BE OTHER PROGRAMS AND OTHER POSITIONS THAT ARE GOING TO BE NEEDED IN THE FUTURE. SO WE SHOW FUTURE SUPPLEMENTALS WHICH ARE NOT YET IDENTIFIED BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A LIST FOR THOSE. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE ARE. BUT FINANCIALLY, WE'VE TRIED TO PLAN FOR ABOUT $500,000 EACH YEAR THAT BE ADDED GOING FORWARD TO THAT AS WELL. SO YOU CAN HAVE THAT IN THE FINANCIAL PLAN. THIS IS THE BLUE LINE IS THE CASH FUNDING OF THE CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT I MENTIONED TO YOU. WE ALSO HAVE THE STATION FOUR, WHEN WE DID THE TEN YEAR PLAN TO YOU BACK IN JULY. I THINK IT WAS WE SHOWED YOU WHEN THAT WAS GOING TO BE AND THE YEAR RIGHT AFTER THIS 27- 28 THAT THAT WOULD PROBABLY COME ONLINE DEPENDING ON THE SCALE OF THAT PROJECT. BUT ALL THAT'S KIND OF GOES INTO THESE NUMBERS TO LOOK AT OUR TOTAL EXPENDITURES, THE CHANGE IN FUND BALANCE, AND THEN OUR ENDING FUND BALANCE. SO OUR GOAL AND OUR POLICY IS THAT THE FUND BALANCE WOULD ALWAYS BE BETWEEN 20 TO 25%. AND SO WE'RE CLEARLY HAVE AN EXCESS OF THAT RIGHT NOW IN THE FUND BALANCE. BUT YOU CAN SEE OVER THE FIVE YEAR PLAN THAT DOES GET US BACK MORE INTO OUR PREFERRED RANGE AT 24%. SO THAT'S THE OVERALL FINANCIAL PLAN THAT WE HAVE FOR THE GENERAL FUND. THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT MOVING PIECES THERE, BUT WE TRY TO SHOW YOU TO THE BEST WE CAN, KIND OF THE FUTURE LOOK OF THAT, THAT FUND OVER TIME. AND I THINK IT'S VERY STRONG FINANCIALLY. YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY HERE. IF THERE WAS AN ECONOMIC DOWNTURN, AGAIN, THE CIP IS ONE OF THOSE AREAS THAT YOU COULD LOOK AT TRYING TO CUT. YOU CERTAINLY ARE NOT COMMITTED TO DOING ANY FUTURE SUPPLEMENTALS GOING FORWARD. THOSE WOULD BE ONES THAT WE COULD LOOK AT PUSHING OUT OR DELAYING OR NOT DOING AT ALL, AS WELL AS A NUMBER OF OTHER THINGS THAT WE COULD LOOK AT. SO YOU DO I BELIEVE THAT YOU HAVE A LOT OF FINANCIAL FLEXIBILITY AS YOU LOOK AT THIS BUDGET. BRIAN, I'M NOT ON THE ARPA FUNDS, ARE WE ONLY GETTING 2 MILLION? NO, THIS IS JUST FOR THIS COMING FISCAL YEAR. SO IT'S ABOUT 12 MILLION IN TOTAL FOR THE ENTIRE PERIOD FROM 20 TO 24, I BELIEVE IT IS. AND MARTIN, YOU MAY WANT TO THINK IT GOES THROUGH THE FIRST QUARTER OF FISCAL YEAR 25, WHICH IS DECEMBER 24. THE TWO MILLION IS RIGHT NOW THE AMOUNT THAT WE HAVE NOT ALLOCATED YET OUT OF THE $12 MILLION. SO WE HAVE IT AS A PLACEHOLDER TO BE ABLE TO FUND PROJECTS THAT WE CAN OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND AT THIS POINT. SO WE'VE IDENTIFIED PROBABLY ABOUT 10 MILLION ALREADY THAT WE'RE USING FOR DIFFERENT THINGS. THE 2 MILLION IS A RESIDUAL THAT HAS NOT BEEN ALLOCATED. SO OUT OF CURIOSITY, HOW COME WE'RE NOT SHOWING THAT ON THIS SLIDE, THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY USING ARPA MONEY? THAT'S WHAT THE 2 MILLION IS FOR. BUT WE HAVE THE USE OF THE FINES. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO SHOW, IS THAT'S A REDUCTION IN OUR COST BECAUSE IT'S BEING PAID FOR THROUGH ARPA FUNDS. BUT WHERE'S THE REST OF IT? MAYBE I'M NOT. WE HAVE I WAS WONDERING THE EXACT SAME THING. WHY DON'T WE HAVE IT LISTED IN LIKE THE 21-22 CATEGORY OF HOW MUCH WE OFFSET? BECAUSE IT'S LIKE JUST THE MONEY WE SPEND. IT'S STILL MONEY WE SPENT, IT'S STILL MONEY WE USE AND WE'RE NOT SHOWING. THERE IS AN ARPA FUND FUND THAT IS ACTUALLY CREATED THAT SHOWS HOW THOSE DOLLARS WERE SPENT. AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT. WE KNOW. BUT WHY IS IT NOT BEING ACCOUNTED IN THIS OVERALL SNAPSHOT? IT WASN'T SHOWN IN THE COST. IT WASN'T SHOWN. WE'D HAVE TO ADD IT BACK TO THE COST AND THEN SHOW THE REVENUE FROM ARPA. SO THAT'S THE REASON FOR THAT. BUT WE ARE PLANNING TO DO A FULL PRESENTATION. I THINK IT'S SEPTEMBER SIX, COME BACK AND GIVE YOU ALL OF THAT. IT'S GOOD FEEDBACK. WE CAN SHOW YOU ALL THESE THINGS BECAUSE WE'RE LIKE, IS 2 MILLION, THE ONLY ARPA FUNDS THAT WE RECEIVED? AND I HAD THE EXACT SAME QUESTION WHEN I WAS LOOKING THROUGH THIS LIKE, WHY AREN'T WE ACCOUNTING FOR THE REST OF IT? SO WE'RE SAYING THAT THE 2 MILLION IDENTIFIED HERE IS NOT ALLOCATED, ALLOCATED YET, BUT WE ANTICIPATE THAT $2 MILLION REDUCTION IN WHAT WE'RE GOING TO SPEND. BUT WHERE WAS IT IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET? SO IT'S POSSIBLE FROM YOU GUYS ON OTHER DOCUMENTS THAT YOU GUYS LOOK AT OUTSIDE OF HERE, THEY ARE LIKE, OH, HERE'S WHERE ALL THAT MONEY WENT. BUT I THINK WHEN I'M LOOKING AT AN OVERALL IF YOU'VE GOT A LINE ITEM FOR IT, I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING WHY WE'RE NOT PUTTING THE MONEY WE SPENT ALREADY OR THAT WE'VE EVEN ALLOCATED. [01:00:01] YEAH. IN THE GENERAL FORECAST, THAT MAKES SENSE TO ME. I UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION AND I THINK WE WERE LOOKING AT IT DIFFERENTLY OF JUST TRYING TO SHOW WHAT ADDITIONAL RESOURCES DID WE HAVE TO HELP FUND SOME OF THESE COSTS. AND THAT'S HOW WE SHOULD. BUT WE'LL GIVE YOU A COMPLETE WE'LL DO THAT. WE'LL BRING THAT BACK TO YOU. AND THAT WAY YOU CAN SEE THE COMPLETE USE OF THE $11.9 MILLION. SO WE'VE GOT ALL THAT DETAIL. WE DO. OKAY. THANK YOU. THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS, DO WE IN 27-28 ANTICIPATE THAT THAT FUND THE CHANGE IN FUND BALANCE IS GOING TO GO BACK INTO THE BLACK? BECAUSE HOW LONG CAN WE I KNOW OUR GOAL IS TO KEEP IT BETWEEN 20 TO 25%, BUT WE'RE SHOWING THAT WE'RE DECREASING IT. YEAH. SEVERAL YEARS IN A ROW WHEN AND ARE WE ANTICIPATING THAT IT'S GOING TO FLIP OVER? AND HOW DO WE ACCOUNT FOR THAT? BECAUSE LIKE RIGHT NOW IT'S TAKING HITS AND THAT'S OC BECAUSE IT'S IT'S BEEN BUILT UP AND THE MONEY DAN USUALLY SAYS THIS THAT WE'RE WE'RE COLLECTING THESE FUNDS TO PUT THEM TO WORK FOR THE CITIZENS AND SO WE SHOULDN'T BE SITTING ON IT, BUT WE ALSO DON'T WANT IT TO DIP UNDER TO WHERE IN THE EVENT OF AN ECONOMIC DOWNTURN OR SOMETHING. WE DON'T ANTICIPATE WE DON'T HAVE THAT FUND BALANCE TO HELP US OUT. RIGHT. GREAT POINTS. AND WHAT WE'VE PUT IT HERE IS IN THE DESIGN OF THIS IS THAT IT WOULD BE FOR CAPITAL USES, ONE TIME CAPITAL USES. SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE CASH FUNDING OF CAPITAL PROJECTS, THESE AMOUNTS ARE FOR THE MOST PART, PRETTY CLOSE TO THE DRAWDOWNS THAT YOU HAVE IN THE FUND BALANCE. AND SO THAT'S IN OTHER WORDS, THE RECURRING REVENUES AND EXPENSES ARE BALANCED THAT YOU HAVE. SO ONCE THAT MILLION DOLLARS IS NO LONGER THERE THE FOLLOWING YEAR, IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT AS THEN IT WOULD GO BACK TO A POSITIVE BALANCE. AND THAT'S WHAT WE SHOWED YOU IN THE TEN YEAR LOOK THAT WE LOOKED AT. YEAH, IT'S A GREAT QUESTION AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE'VE LOOKED AT IS THAT THESE ARE DEFINED ONE TIME ITEMS THE CAPITAL USES THAT WE HAVE, AND THAT'S THE REASON FOR THE DECLINE IN THE FUND BALANCE, NOT BECAUSE WE CAN'T PAY OUR OPERATING COSTS. THAT'S THE POINT WHERE WE'D HAVE A PROBLEM. YES, MA'AM, THAT'S THE POINT. I DON'T LIKE THE AREA I DON'T WANT TO STEP INTO. AND I THINK ALSO THAT EVERY YEAR WE LOOK AT THIS AND WE ADJUST BASED UPON THE ACTUAL REVENUES, PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THAT THE ASSUMPTIONS THAT WE'RE USING ARE VERY CONSERVATIVE AS WELL. AND SO ANY INCREASE, FOR EXAMPLE, IN SALES TAX WILL IMPACT THAT EVEN GOING FORWARD AS WELL. BUT THAT SHOWS, IN ESSENCE, THE SNAPSHOT BASED UPON THE DECISIONS WE'RE MAKING NOW. BUT WHEN THE ACTUALS ACTUALLY HAPPEN, WE WILL BE ABLE TO ADJUST GOING FORWARD AND SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING INTO THE FUTURE AND THEN MAKE DECISIONS THERE AS WELL. MAYBE DON'T DRAW SO MUCH OUT OF THE FUND BALANCE AND UTILIZE IF SALES TAX WENT UP THAT YEAR TO OFFSET THAT AND LESSEN HOW MUCH WE DIP INTO FUND BALANCE. RIGHT. YEAH. WE ALWAYS WANT TO TRY TO SURPRISE YOU ON THE GOOD SIDE WITH OUR REVENUES THAT ARE BETTER THAN WHAT WE'VE THOUGHT, IT WON'T ALWAYS BE THAT CASE, BUT WE TRY TO BE VERY CONSERVATIVE ON THOSE CERTAINLY HAVE BEEN THIS YEAR. WELL, THIS IS JUST OUR SAFETY NET AND I DON'T WANT TO DIP SO MUCH INTO IT THAT WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THE ECONOMY IS GOING WHILE WE DO CONTINUE TO GROW. AS COUNCILMEMBER JOHNSON SAID, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW THAT THE INTEREST RATES HAVE GONE UP, INFLATION HAS GONE UP. WHAT ARE WE GOING TO SEE IN THE NEXT YEAR? IT MAY COMPLETELY SHOCK US, RIGHT? ABSOLUTELY. AND I THINK IT'S EVERY YEAR I'VE BEEN DOING THAT, IT'S ALWAYS THE SAME SET OF QUESTIONS. ALTHOUGH THE ISSUES ARE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, YOU NEVER QUITE KNOW. BUT THAT'S THE POINT OF THIS, IS WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE LOTS OF FLEXIBILITY HERE, THAT IF SOMETHING DID HAPPEN THAT WAS UNFORESEEN AND SOMETHING WILL HAPPEN IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS THAT NONE OF US PREDICTED ANOTHER COVID OR MONKEYPOX. I HOPE THAT'S NOT THE CASE. YOU NEVER KNOW. YEAH, BUT. BUT CERTAINLY THAT WAS ONE OF THOSE LIFE CHANGING EVENTS THAT NOBODY WOULD HAVE EVER ANTICIPATED. BUT IT COULD HAPPEN. HOPEFULLY THAT MAKES SENSE. I KNOW THAT'S A LOT OF NUMBERS ON A PAGE. AGAIN, THIS IS NOT NEW INFORMATION FOR YOU, BUT AS WE KIND OF THINK THROUGH IT, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT YOU UNDERSTAND HOW WE'RE THINKING ABOUT IT. WE UNDERSTAND ANY CONCERNS THAT YOU HAVE. SO SOME OTHER THINGS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THE GENERAL FUND. WE SPEND A LOT OF TIME TALKING ABOUT THOSE MAJOR ELEMENTS THAT ARE INCLUDED. THERE'S ALSO A NUMBER OF OTHER WHAT WE CALL DECISION PACKAGES OR SUPPLEMENTALS THAT HAVE BEEN RECOMMENDED. I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE UNLESS YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, BUT WE LIST OUT HERE THE DEPARTMENT WHAT THE COST IS, AND WE DEFINE IT AS EITHER ONE TIME COST OR RECURRING COST. AND THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR US TO LOOK AT THIS AND LOOK AT OUR PROJECTIONS THAT WE HAVE TO KNOW IF WE ADD SOMETHING IS THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A MULTIYEAR EFFECT AND IS IT GOING TO CONTINUE TO GROW OVER A YEAR OR IS IT JUST A ONE TIME CAPITAL COST? SO WE BREAK THAT OUT AND THEN WE LOOK AT WHAT'S RECURRING THE TOTAL COST. I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THIS ADA TRANSITION PLAN AND I KNOW MATT'S NOT HERE, BUT IT SAYS REOCCURRING. WHAT DOES LIKE EVERY YEAR, THE ADA TRANSITION PLAN, LEGAL AND COMPLIANCE. SO IT SAYS REOCCURRING LIKE EVERY YEAR ARE WE RESPONSIBLE FOR TURNING IN SOMETHING TO THE STATE OR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OR WHAT DOES THAT MEAN AND WHY IS IT [01:05:06] EVERY YEAR GOING TO BE 50,000? SO ORIGINALLY WE THOUGHT THE COST TO DO THE FULL PLAN FOR THE CITY WAS OVER $200,000 SURE . AND WE DIDN'T FEEL LIKE THAT WE WANTED TO RECOMMEND ALL OF THAT AT ONE TIME AND TO TRY TO BREAK IT UP INTO PIECES OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS. AND WHAT HAPPENS WITH THIS WITH CITIES IS IF YOU DON'T HAVE A PLAN TO ADDRESS YOUR ADA ACCESSIBILITY ISSUES, YOU CAN ACTUALLY YOU CAN COME UNDER SOME LEGAL CONSTRAINTS. YES. BUT I DIDN'T LIKE HOW LONG IS IT REOCCURRING? AND THAT MAKES SENSE THAT WE HAD. OKAY. AND THE IDEA THAT WHAT MATT AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT IS THAT WE WOULD START WITH A SPECIFIC PART OF THE CITY, PERHAPS MAYBE THE DOWNTOWN AREA, BECAUSE IT IS A MASSIVE ISSUE. THEN YOU'VE GOT TO TRY TO FUND THE IMPROVEMENTS TOO. SURE. WHICH COULD BE VERY COSTLY. BUT JUST LOOKING AT ALL OF THE DIFFERENT SIDEWALKS THAT WE HAVE, THE ENTRANCE POINTS, THE GRADE OF THE SIDEWALKS AND WHAT SHOULD IT BE FOR WHEELCHAIR ACCESSIBILITY AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. IT GETS VERY TECHNICAL AND EXPENSIVE. SO THAT'S THE REASON FOR IT. YES, IT'S GREAT POINT. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE YES, MA'AM. SO JUST A FEW OTHERS THAT WE HAVE LISTED DOWN HERE FOR YOU. AND I'LL TALK ABOUT ALL THE POSITIONS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET A LITTLE BIT LATER. BUT THESE ARE THE FTES THAT ARE LISTED, YOU'LL NOTE, ON SEVERAL OF THESE DOWN HERE IN THE PUBLIC WORKS AREA. MOST OF THESE ARE FUNDED OUT OF THE CAPITAL PROGRAM OR SOME OTHER TYPE OF RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE. SO THIS IS THE GENERAL FUND COST THAT'S LISTED HERE. BUT AS AN EXAMPLE, WE HAVE AN INSPECTOR POSITION WHICH TRYING TO REMEMBER WHERE THAT THAT'S SHOWN ON HERE, BUT WE HAVE AN INSPECTOR POSITION. WE NEED THAT FOR THE CHISHOLM SUMMIT PROJECT AS AN EXAMPLE OF THE LAKEWOOD PROJECTS THAT'S COMING IN, IT'S FAR MORE COST EFFECTIVE FOR US TO HIRE OUR OWN STAFF MEMBER AND INSPECT THAT PROJECT RATHER THAN PAYING HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO HAVE AN OUTSIDE FIRM DO THAT. SO THAT'S PAID OUT OF THAT CAPITAL PROGRAM. I BELIEVE THAT WAS PAID OUT OF 4A SO THAT WAS PAID OUT OF 4A. SOME OF THESE OTHER POSITIONS ARE PAID OUT OF THE CIP PROGRAM AND OUT OF THOSE PROJECTS. SO WE'LL TALK ABOUT A LITTLE BIT LATER IN THE PRESENTATION. WE HAVE A $269 MILLION DOLLAR CIP PROGRAM OVER FIVE YEARS. IT'S AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF PROJECTS AND WORK THAT NEEDS TO GET DONE. WE HAVE TO HAVE THE STAFF TO OVERSEE THOSE PROJECTS AND TO GET THOSE PROJECTS OUT. SO THAT'S. DOES THAT MEAN WHEN THE PROJECT ENDS, THOSE POSITIONS ROLL OFF? YES, POTENTIALLY IF THE PROJECTS THERE WERE NO MORE PROJECTS THAN YES, YOU WOULD NO LONGER NEED SOME OF THOSE STAFF MEMBERS. BUT WE BELIEVE AS THE CITY GROWS, THAT YOU'RE GOING TO ALWAYS HAVE SOME CAPITAL PROGRAM THAT NEEDS TO BE OUT THERE. YOU'VE GOT 78 MILLION ALONE JUST IN WATER AND SEWER PROJECTS OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. AND THEN AFTER THAT, THEY'LL CONTINUE TO BE MORE. I HAD A QUESTION ON THIS? YES. NOW WHEN I ASKED EARLIER ABOUT THE ABOUT THE POLICE LIEUTENANTS, WE INCLUDED THE TOTAL COST, WHICH I LIKE THAT BECAUSE THAT TELLS ME ALL OF THE COSTS I'M LOOKING AT THESE, THESE LOOK LIKE JUST SALARIES. THESE DON'T HAVE THE TOTAL COST RIGHT? NO, IT IS THE TOTAL COST. YES, SIR. SO THAT'S ALL THEIR MEDICAL THAT'S EVERYTHING? RIGHT. NOW SOME OF THESE ARE JUST THE GENERAL FUND COSTS. SO IF YOU LOOK AT, FOR EXAMPLE, THE DEPUTY PUBLIC WORKS POSITION, THAT'S NOT THE FULL COST. THAT'S ON THAT SPREADSHEET SOME OF THAT GOES TO THE OTHER FUNDS. THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO MENTION. SOME OF THAT WILL BE IN WATER AND SEWER. SOME OF THAT WILL BE IN THE CAPITAL PROGRAM. THIS IS JUST THE GENERAL FUND OF HOW MUCH THE GENERAL FUND COST IS ON THESE PARTICULAR ITEMS. I UNDERSTOOD. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE HAD THERE. YES, SIR. THE INSURANCE. ALL OF IT. ALL OF THE STUFF. YES, SIR. WHETHER THERE'S ANY KIND OF LEGAL STUFF THEY HAVE TO SUBSCRIPTIONS, EVERYTHING. RIGHT. TRAINING, ALL THOSE THINGS. YES, SIR. EXACTLY. WE'VE PUT ALL OF THAT IN THERE. OKAY. THANK YOU. THIS IS JUST THE GENERAL FUND PIECE. YEAH. RIGHT, RIGHT. WE WISH IT WAS THAT CHEAP. YES, SIR. I GET IT. THE SAVINGS IS NOT PERHAPS AS MUCH AS YOU'D THINK IT WAS IN THE GENERAL FUND. IT'S SPLIT BETWEEN OTHER FUNDS. SO WE WANTED TO SHOW YOU THAT. ALL RIGHT. SO THE DEBT SERVICE FUNDS ANOTHER IMPORTANT AREA. AGAIN, THIS IS THE TWO TAX RATES. IT'S THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS, THE GENERAL FUND RATE AND THE DEBT SERVICE RATE. SO THIS IS THE DEBT SERVICE COMPONENT OF THIS. OUR OUTSTANDING DEBT THAT'S TAX SUPPORTED IS $56.4 MILLION DOLLARS. THAT'S ACTUALLY A 3 MILLION DECREASE FROM THE PRIOR YEAR. AND I'LL SHOW YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL ON THAT IN A MOMENT. WE'RE PROPOSING A DEBT SERVICE TAX RATE OF 19.23 CENTS. THAT IS AN INCREASE FROM THE PRIOR YEAR OF ABOUT 0.38 CENTS. AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS, YOU GUYS MAY RECALL SO THE TOD TIRZ PROJECTS, WE HAD A NUMBER OF DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE TOD. WHEN YOU DECIDED TO DISSOLVE THAT TIRZ, THE COUNCIL HAD DIRECTED US TO TAKE ALL OF THE RESOURCES FROM DISSOLVING THE TIRZ AND PUT THAT INTO A CAPITAL PROGRAM AND TO [01:10:05] DO MORE PROJECTS. SO THIS IS THE REASON YOU HAVE TO INCREASE THE RATE IS BECAUSE YOU'RE TRYING TO FUND THOSE PROJECTS RATHER THAN CUT THAT TAX RATE FROM THE TOD TIRZ. AND THEN WE DO HAVE AN ESTIMATED FUND BALANCE OF ABOUT 2.6 MILLION. SO YOU CAN SEE HERE THE TYPES OF DEBT THAT WE HAVE. AND AGAIN, ALL DEBT COLLECTIVELY WE ESTIMATE IS ABOUT 144 MILLION BY THE END OF THIS FISCAL YEAR. THAT WILL INCLUDE ABOUT $15 MILLION DOLLARS THAT MARTIN IS GOING TO BE COMING AND ASKING YOU TO ISSUE ON AUGUST 15TH. HE'LL BE ASKING YOU TO ISSUE THOSE THE DEBT FOR THOSE PROJECTS. BUT WITH ALL THE OTHER DEBT REDUCTIONS WE'VE HAD, THE TOTAL DEBT WOULD BE ABOUT $144 MILLION DOLLARS, WHICH IS ABOUT $2 MILLION DOLLARS MORE THAN THE PRIOR YEAR. AND YOU CAN SEE HOW THIS IS BROKEN OUT WITH TAX SUPPORTED DEBT. THIS IS WHAT WE PAY WITH PROPERTY TAXES. THE OTHER DEBT THAT WE HAVE FOR 4A, 4B, WATER AND SEWER, THOSE AREAS, THOSE ARE PAID FOR REVENUES OUT OF THOSE CATEGORIES OF REVENUES THAT WE HAVE, THEY PAY FOR THEIR OWN DEBT SERVICE. SO THE TAX SUPPORTED WHAT ACTUALLY SHOWS UP FROM A TAX BILL STANDPOINT IS THAT $56 MILLION DOLLARS. THAT MAKES SENSE? OKAY. AND THEN IF YOU LOOK OVER TIME, WHAT HAS DEBT BEEN OVER TIME? THIS IS THE 144 MILLION THAT WE'RE SHOWING FOR AT THE END OF THIS FISCAL YEAR. AND THAT'S THE LOWEST SINCE 2016. SO ABOUT EIGHT YEARS, SEVEN, SIX, SEVEN YEARS THAT WE'VE HAD THAT WILL GROW SLIGHTLY OVER TIME AS WE ISSUE BONDS FOR THE NEXT CIP PROGRAM. BUT EVERY YEAR YOU'LL ALSO BE RETIRING 12 TO $15 MILLION DOLLARS OF EXISTING DEBT. SO IT WILL GROW SLIGHTLY, BUT IT SHOULDN'T APPROACH THE LEVELS THAT WE SAW IN 18 OR 19. THE OTHER THING THAT'S NOT REALLY APPARENT ON THIS CHART IS POPULATION GROWTH AND WHAT WAS OUR POPULATION IN 2014 VERSUS 2023? THERE'S A LOT OF WAYS TO LOOK AT DEBT. IF YOU LOOKED AT DEBT PER CAPITA OR DEBT AS A PERCENTAGE OF ASSESSED VALUES, YOU WOULD SEE THAT GOING DOWN BECAUSE THE ABSOLUTE LEVEL OF THE DEBT IS NOT GROWING. BUT THOSE POPULATIONS AND VALUES ARE GROWING UP QUITE A BIT SUBSTANTIALLY. ALL RIGHT. WE ARE FLYING PROPRIETARY FUNDS IF YOU NEED TO. IF YOU GUYS NEED TO TAKE A BREAK, JUST. YOU WANT TO TAKE A BREAK A FEW MINUTES. SURE. FIVE MINUTE BREAK. WATER AND WASTEWATER. SOME OF THE KEY ISSUES IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS BUDGET. I APOLOGIZE. EVERYBODY HEAR ME NOW. SO WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WATER, WASTEWATER AND SOME OF THE KEY ISSUES IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS BUDGET. AS YOU KNOW, WE HAD A MAJOR LINE THAT WE'RE WORKING ON WITH THE CITY OF FORT WORTH. THIS IS ABOUT $14.7 MILLION DOLLARS, AND THAT WILL HELP US WITH FUTURE CAPACITY, SEWER AND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM. WE ALSO HAVE $6 MILLION DOLLARS THAT IS PLANNED FOR THIS CURRENT YEAR, FY 22 TO BE SOLD FOR SOME PROJECTS AND IN THE FIVE YEAR CIP AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, ALMOST $78 MILLION DOLLARS IN PROJECTS THAT ARE INCLUDED OVER THE FIVE YEARS. NO SEWER RATE INCREASE FOR THIS COMING YEAR. NO WATER RATE INCREASE. AND WE DON'T BELIEVE ANY RATE INCREASES WILL BE NEEDED UNTIL FY 25. SO ALL VERY POSITIVE, ALL THE REVENUES THAT ARE COMING IN ARE SUFFICIENT TO PAY ALL THOSE COSTS AND HELP US INVEST IN THAT SYSTEM GOING FORWARD. SIMILAR KIND OF FORMAT THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE FOR THIS FUND, JUST LIKE GENERAL FUND AND ALL THE OTHER FUNDS THAT WE'LL SHOW YOU AS WE LOOK AT AGAIN, WE HAD SHOWN YOU PREVIOUSLY THAT TEN YEAR PRO FORMA FOR WATER AND SEWER. AND THIS IS A JUST A FIVE YEAR LOOK. SO YOU CAN SEE HOW THIS KIND OF WORKS OUT. ALL THE SAME THINGS THAT WE'VE SHOWN YOU BEFORE. IT'S A LITTLE SIMPLER TO KIND OF SHOW THIS BECAUSE IT'S JUST WATER REVENUE. SEWER REVENUES ARE SOME GROWTH THAT WE EXPECT TO HAPPEN. JUST THE NEW CUSTOMERS THAT WILL BE ADDED. BUT WITH THE SAME RATE STRUCTURE, IT'S REALLY GOING TO BE A DEMAND BASED IF THEY USE MORE WATER OR USE MORE SERVICES AND THE RATES GO UP. OTHERWISE IT'S JUST A LITTLE BIT OF GROWTH THAT WE HAVE. AND THEN WE PLUG IN ALL OF OUR PERSONNEL COSTS, OUR OPERATING COSTS, AS WELL AS THE DEBT SERVICE THAT YOU CAN SEE FOR OUR CAPITAL PROGRAM. AND ALL THAT GETS PROGRAMED OUT SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT THE ENDING FUND BALANCE IS AND ALL THAT LOOKS VERY POSITIVE. AND COUNCILMEMBER JOHNSON, TO YOUR POINT, THAT NEGATIVE NUMBER, ONCE YOU GET TO YEAR SIX AND SEVEN, IT TURNS AND GOES THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION AND THOSE BALANCES START GOING UP. [01:15:01] AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE SHOWED YOU FOR THE TEN YEAR LOOK. ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT ONE? IF NOT WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO THE SOLID WASTE FUND. THIS IS A PASS THROUGH FUND, SO WE CONTRACT OUT FOR SOLID WASTE SERVICES. WE CHARGE OUR RESIDENTS A FEE AND PASS THAT FEE ONTO OUR CONTRACTOR. THERE IS NO PROJECTED FEE INCREASE FOR FY 23 THIS COMING YEAR. WE ARE SHOWING A 5% INCREASE IN FEES GOING FORWARD. IT'S ABOUT A $2.31 INCREASE ON A RESIDENTIAL ACCOUNT JUST FOR GROWTH OF THE COST MOVING FORWARD. WHEN YOU SAY MOVING FORWARD 5% EACH YEAR? YES, YES. FOR HOW LONG? JUST THE 24 TO THE 27. AND THAT WILL DEPEND, I WILL TELL YOU THIS, THAT IN 20 I BELIEVE IT'S 24, ERIC, THAT WE'LL HAVE TO GO OUT FOR BID AGAIN FOR THIS SERVICE. AND SO YOU'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT POTENTIALLY HAVING A HIGHER COST OR IF YOU WANTED TO CHANGE THE STRUCTURE OF THE SERVICE, IF YOU WANT TO HAVE A CARTE ONLY BASE SERVICE, THERE'S PROBABLY BE A REDUCTION IN THE FEES. BUT THE COUNCIL COULD HAVE THAT DECISION IF YOU WANTED TO MAKE THAT TO TRY TO MANAGE THAT. SO AND I'LL SHOW YOU THE COMPARISON OF OUR FEE VERSUS SOME OTHER CITIES. SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THAT. YES, MA'AM. SO THEY'RE INCREASING THEIR FEES IN 24. ARE YOU JUST SAYING THAT'S BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN THE CONTRACT EXPIRES, THE POTENTIAL FOR INCREASES THERE? WE'RE JUST MAKING A PROJECTION FOR THAT. I'LL SHOW YOU IN JUST A MOMENT THAT WE SHOW OUR FUND BALANCE IN THIS FUND DECLINING EVERY YEAR, AND THAT'S INTENTIONAL. WE HAD HIGHER WE HAVE GENERATED HIGHER FUND BALANCES, AND WE WANT TO DRAW THAT DOWN OVER TIME BECAUSE IT'S, AGAIN, JUST MEANT TO BE A PASS THROUGH SERVICE. BUT TO KEEP THAT FROM GOING NEGATIVE, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE SOME KIND OF FEE INCREASE OR A CHANGE IN THE SERVICE AS I TALKED ABOUT, YOU'LL HAVE THOSE OPPORTUNITIES. AND WE DO HAVE AGAIN THIS IS SIMILAR TO KIND OF A WATER OR WASTEWATER PLAN. WE DO HAVE TO PROJECT FOR SOME KIND OF GROWTH IN THE NUMBER OF CUSTOMERS. AND WE'VE LOOKED AT DEPENDING ON THE YEAR 2 TO 2.25% GROWTH EACH YEAR, THE NUMBER OF CUSTOMERS THAT WOULD BE COMING ONLINE. SO YOU GET A LITTLE BIT OF GROWTH IN REVENUE JUST FROM ADDING MORE CUSTOMERS. THE COLLECTION CONTRACT IS IN AVERAGE OF ABOUT $2.6 MILLION DOLLARS OVER THE PLAN, AND THE RECYCLING PROGRAM IS ABOUT $500,000. AND AS I MENTIONED TO YOU BEFORE, THAT CONTRACT DOES EXPIRE IN FY 24. SO WE'LL HAVE TO REBID THAT SERVICE. AND THEN YOU CAN SEE VERY SIMPLY, JUST KIND OF THE FIVE YEAR PLAN THAT WE HAVE FOR YOU. IT'S ABOUT $1,000,000 IN FUND BALANCE THAT WE HAVE. WE ESTIMATE THIS CURRENT FISCAL YEAR, BUT WE SHOW THAT DECLINING ALMOST TO ABOUT $85,000 OR $84,000 BY FY 26 AND THEN STARTING TO INCREASE THEREAFTER. BUT THOSE ARE DECISIONS THAT WE CAN MAKE GOING FORWARD. BUT FINANCIALLY, WE'VE JUST LOOKED AT A 5% INCREASE IN RATES TO KEEP IT TO BE A SOLVENT FUND GOING FORWARD. HMM. ANY QUESTIONS WITH ANY OF THAT? SO HERE'S THE MONTHLY FEES THAT I WAS MENTIONING TO YOU BEFORE. THERE'S A LOT ON THIS CHART, BUT WE LISTED A NUMBER OF OTHER CITIES OVER HERE. WHAT THE AVERAGE IS FOR WATER, SEWER, SOLID WASTE, TAX ON SOLID WASTE, STORMWATER UTILITIES, WHICH WE DO NOT HAVE A STORMWATER UTILITY HERE. AND THEN WHAT THAT TOTAL MONTHLY IMPACT IS ON AVERAGE AND WHAT IT IS FOR BURLESON. SO EVEN WITH WHAT WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT WITH NO FEE INCREASES, WE'RE STILL BELOW THE AVERAGE, ALTHOUGH SOME OF THESE CATEGORIES ARE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT DEPENDING ON THE SERVICE THAT YOU HAVE. IF YOU LOOK AT OUR SOLID WASTE BILL, WE ARE SLIGHTLY ABOVE AVERAGE, BUT IT'S WITHIN A DOLLAR A MONTH ON MOST OF THESE, DEPENDING ON WHAT YOU HAVE. AND AGAIN, THERE ARE SERVICE OPTIONS THAT YOU CAN SELECT WHEN WE GO THROUGH THAT BIDDING PROCESS TO DETERMINE WHAT YOU'D LIKE TO DO FROM THAT AREA. ARE ALL THESE TOWNS USING FORT WORTH FOR SEWER? NO, SIR. SOME OF THEM ARE DIFFERENT, AND I DON'T KNOW THE SPECIFICS OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY GET THAT FOR YOU. SOME OF THEM ARE AND SOME OF OR NOT. OKAY. SO WE ARE A FORT WORTH WHOLESALE CUSTOMER, SO WE HAVE TO TAKE WATER FROM FORT WORTH AND PAY THEIR FEES AS WELL I CAN SEE OUR SEWER COSTS BEING HIGHER BECAUSE OF IT. YEP. WHAT IS STORMWATER UTILITY? SO STORMWATER UTILITY SOME CITIES HAVE PUT IN A FEE THAT THEY WOULD CHARGE AND IT'S BASED ON IMPERVIOUS SQUARE FOOT SURFACES. SO BASICALLY LIKE CONCRETE OR ASPHALT THEY PUT IN IF YOU PUT IN A BIG PARK AT WALMART, FOR EXAMPLE, PUTS IN A GIANT PARKING LOT WHEN IT RAINS, THAT WATER IS GOING DOWN INTO THE DRAINAGE AREA AND THEY HAVE TO PAY AN EXTRA FEE FOR THAT. SO SOME CITIES HAVE DONE THAT. I THINK THIS BURLESON LOOKED AT THAT A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO AND ELECTED NOT TO PUT IN THAT STORMWATER UTILITY FEE. BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT SOME CITIES DO AND IT HELPS OFFSET YOUR OTHER COSTS THAT YOU HAVE OR YOUR DRAINAGE PROGRAM AND YOUR TAX BASE IN YOUR PROGRAM. BUT IT'S YOU WOULD REDUCE THAT AND THEN INCREASE THIS FEE TO MAKE IT MAKE UP FOR THAT. IT GETS A LITTLE BIT COMPLICATED ON HOW THEY CALCULATE WHAT THOSE ARE AND. ALL RIGHT. GOLF FUND. STAY TUNED. WE'RE SHOWING PROPRIETARY, BUT WE SHOWED THAT WE'RE GOING TO SHOW THAT AS A SPECIAL REVENUE FUND. [01:20:01] INTERNAL SERVICE FUNDS. WE'LL BRIEFLY WALK YOU THROUGH THIS. AGAIN, THESE ARE FUNDS THAT ARE PART OF THE CITY THAT CHARGE FEES TO THE OTHER FUNDS FOR THEIR SERVICES. SO THE FIRST WE'LL TALK ABOUT IS THE SUPPORT SERVICES FUND, OTHERWISE KNOWN AS INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY. PROS BUDGET FOR THAT FUND IS ABOUT $5.7 MILLION DOLLARS. 83,000 IS THE FUND BALANCE. IT DOES SET ASIDE ABOUT $1.3 MILLION DOLLARS FOR IMPLEMENTING SOME OF THE MAJOR TECHNOLOGY PLATFORMS THAT WE'VE TALKED TO YOU ABOUT, INCLUDING THE ERP SYSTEM, AS WELL AS THE 311 SYSTEM AND A LOT OF THE OTHER CORE NETWORK INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S BEEN PLANNED AND DISCUSSED WITH YOU OVER TIME. BUT ALL OF THAT IS PART OF THAT FUND. AND AGAIN, GENERAL FUND, WATER AND SEWER 4 A, 4 B, THEY ALL MAKE A CONTRIBUTION TO THAT FUND BASED ON THEIR USE OF THOSE SERVICES THERE . HEALTH INSURANCE FUND IS ALSO A SPECIAL REVENUE FUND THAT WE LOOK AT. IT HAS A VERY LARGE HEALTHY FUND BALANCE, $3.8 MILLION DOLLARS. FOR THAT REASON, WE HAVE NO INCREASES FOR OUR CITY CONTRIBUTIONS FOR THIS YEAR AND NO INCREASE FOR EMPLOYEE CONTRIBUTIONS, WHICH IS A GREAT THING. ONE OF THE CHALLENGES FOR MANAGING EMPLOYEES IS WHEN YOU HAVE AN INCREASE IN, YOU PROVIDE AN INCREASE FOR A MERIT INCREASE OR A SALARY INCREASE. BUT THEN IF ON THE BACK END YOU'RE INCREASING YOUR HEALTH INSURANCE PREMIUMS, THEN THE NET THAT SOMEONE RECEIVES IS LESS. AND SO WE'RE VERY PLEASED TO BE ABLE TO OFFER YOU A BUDGET THAT DOES NOT HAVE ANY KIND OF HEALTH INSURANCE INCREASE. SO THEY GET TO KEEP THAT FULL MERIT INCREASE THAT'S PROPOSED IN THE BUDGET. AND I WANT TO GIVE A KUDOS TO RICK ON THIS, JUST BECAUSE I KNOW WHERE RICK CAME FROM AND I KNOW WHAT HE DID THERE. WE WISH HE WAS BACK THERE, BUT I DO JUST BECAUSE I GET INSURANCE FROM THAT OTHER CITY. SO BUT I DO WANT TO SAY, THIS IS ACTUALLY, LIKE YOU SAID, THIS IS A GREAT BONUS TO OUR EMPLOYEES BECAUSE OFTEN YOU DO GET RAISES AND THEN YOU'VE ALSO GOT PREMIUM INCREASES. AND FROM A FAMILY, WHEN YOU HAVE A FAMILY OF THREE OR FOUR, THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE. AND SO THIS IS THIS IS A REALLY GOOD THING. AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE EMPHASIZE THAT WITH OUR EMPLOYEES, THAT THIS IS A GREAT BONUS OR BENEFIT AS A CITY EMPLOYEE RIGHT NOW, AT LEAST. YEAH. I KNOW MAYBE IT'S NOT ATTAINABLE EVERY YEAR, BUT THIS IS VERY GOOD. WELL, I APPRECIATE THAT. AND RICK HAS DONE. HE'S ALL THE WAY. RICK, CAN YOU HEAR ME ALL THE WAY IN THE BACK? OKAY. HE'S DONE A GREAT JOB OF LOOKING AT OUR BENEFITS. AND WE'RE REALLY PLEASED TO HAVE HIM ON OUR TEAM. GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT. SO, OKAY, SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE HEALTH INSURANCE FUNDING. AND AGAIN, WE MAKE PROJECTIONS FOR WHAT OUR MEDICAL CLAIMS ARE GOING TO BE GOING FORWARD. AND WE PUT TOGETHER A PLAN FOR HOW THAT'S GOING TO LOOK. ALSO, AS PART OF THE BENEFITS FOR DENTAL BENEFITS IS ANOTHER BENEFIT THAT WE'VE LOOKED AT INCREASING AND NO COST TO CITY EMPLOYEES OR THE CITY. THAT DENTAL BENEFIT WOULD RISE FROM $1200 TO $2000, WHICH IF YOU'VE HAD ANY DENTAL WORK OR HAVING A FAMILY MEMBER, YOU KNOW, THAT CAN GO VERY, VERY QUICKLY. SO THAT'S ALSO A GOOD POINT. AND AS I MENTIONED TO YOU BEFORE, WE ALSO STILL ARE CONSIDERING A NEAR SITE CLINIC OPTION AND WE'LL SEE IF THAT'S VIABLE OPTION THAT WE CAN BRING FORWARD IN THE NEAR FUTURE. THEN IN TERMS OF THE FINANCIALS, JUST LIKE YOU'VE SEEN IN ALL THE OTHER FUNDS, WE START WITH THE BEGINNING FUND BALANCE. WE MAKE OUR ESTIMATES HERE FOR OUR REVENUES COMING IN, WHICH WOULD BE CITY CONTRIBUTIONS AND EMPLOYEE CONTRIBUTIONS. THEN WE LOOK AT OUR CLAIMS AND MAKE ESTIMATES FOR THAT. THESE ARE ESTIMATES FOR CLAIMS. AND IF YOU HAVE A FEW EMPLOYEES OR DEPENDENTS THAT BECOME VERY ILL, YOU CAN SEE THESE NUMBERS RISE VERY, VERY QUICKLY. AND THIS IS KIND OF THE OLD 80/20 RULE THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD HAVE 1 TO 3 EMPLOYEES THAT GENERATE SEVERAL HUNDRED THOUSAND OF CLAIMS DEPENDING ON THE ILLNESS OR THEY HAD A SIGNIFICANT SURGERY OR ISSUE THEY HAD TO DEAL WITH. SO WE'VE TRIED TO PROJECT FOR THAT, BUT FORTUNATELY VERY STRONG FUND BALANCES ABOUT 80% AND THAT WE DO SHOW IT DECLINING SOME GOING FORWARD, BUT WE'RE STILL VERY HEALTHY BALANCE THAT WE CAN MANAGE WITH. SOME OF THE OTHER INTERNAL FUNDS I'LL JUST BRIEFLY MENTION THE EQUIPMENT SERVICES FUND, THE EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT FUNDS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT. THOSE ARE IN WE SPENT QUITE A BIT OF TIME WITH YOU ON THOSE OF HOW THE CONTRIBUTIONS GO INTO THOSE FUNDS TO REPLACE EQUIPMENT, VEHICLES, FIRE APPARATUS, ALL THOSE KINDS OF THINGS WHEN THEY GET TO END OF LIFE. THOSE ARE HERE IN THE BUDGET AS WELL. THE EQUIPMENT SERVICES FUND IS OUR FLEET FUND. IT DOES INCLUDE ADDING A POSITION, ANOTHER FLEET TECHNICIAN, AS YOU MAY RECALL. WE ALSO HAD A POSITION THAT NEEDED TO BE ADDED FOR THE EMS TRANSITION, FOR THE ADDITIONAL VEHICLES AND TO HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL SUPPORT TO DO THAT. SO THAT'S IN THE BUDGET HERE FOR THESE FUNDS. THAT'S IT FOR INTERNAL SERVICE UNLESS YOU WANT TO SPEND MORE TIME TALKING ABOUT THOSE. [01:25:04] IF NOT, I'LL JUST JUMP INTO THE SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS. 4A THIS IS OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION. THE BUDGET IS ABOUT $4.9 MILLION DOLLARS FOR THIS COMING YEAR. SALES TAX REVENUE IS JUST LIKE THE GENERAL FUND BEING VERY, VERY STRONG BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT OUR TOTAL SALES TAX THAT WE COLLECT IS 2% OF EVERY SALE. 1% OF THAT GOES INTO THE GENERAL FUND. HALF A PERCENT GOES TO 4A AND A HALF A PERCENT GOES TO 4B. SO THE HALF A PERCENT IS THAT $7.1 MILLION DOLLARS FOR 4A, THE ENDING BALANCE FOR THIS YEAR IS 3.3 MILLION. EVEN DESPITE SPENDING $9 MILLION DOLLARS ON PROPERTY ACQUISITIONS OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS, SO WE PURCHASED THE HOOPER BUSINESS PARK, PLUS THE TOD PROPERTY THAT WE PURCHASED JUST A FEW WEEKS AGO FOR 5 MILLION. SO 9 MILLION IN CASH AND YOU STILL HAVE 3.3 GOING FORWARD. SO IT'S STILL VERY, VERY HEALTHY. WE'VE ALSO PUT PUT IN NEW ESTIMATES FOR SOME OF OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVES. THESE ARE ESTIMATES. SOME OF THESE ARE KNOWN, BUT MOST OF THEM ARE JUST PLANNED. SO YOU HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF OPTIONS. IF A PROJECT WAS TO PRESENT ITSELF OR YOU HAD A PROPOSAL THAT YOU WANT TO CONSIDER, YOU HAVE SOME BUDGET FUNDS FOR THAT. AND WE'VE ANTICIPATED FOR THAT. AND THEN FOR THE CAPITAL PROJECTS, THE MOST SIGNIFICANT ONE IS CHISHOLM SUMMIT. SO $35 MILLION DOLLARS HAS BEEN BUDGETED FOR THE LAKEWOOD ROAD CONSTRUCTION. THE OTHER COMPONENT FOR THAT, FOR THE SEWER LINE IS FUNDED OUT OF THE WATER AND SEWER. SO IT'S ALL TOLD ABOUT $43 MILLION DOLLARS THAT'S PLANNED IN INFRASTRUCTURE FOR CHISHOLM SUMMIT. AND THEN WE'VE ALSO TALKED TO THE COUNCIL WITH OUR STRATEGIC PLAN FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ABOUT LOOKING AT ANOTHER INDUSTRIAL PARK, EITHER FINDING A NEW SITE OR INCENTIVIZING A DEVELOPER TO HELP US BUILD A NEW INDUSTRIAL PARK, AS HIGH POINT IS GETTING CLOSE TO BEING BUILT OUT. SO WE'VE PUT INTO THE PLAN $20 MILLION DOLLARS FOR THAT TYPE OF PROJECT, ALTHOUGH WE DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC PROJECT IN MIND, WE JUST WANTED TO FINANCIALLY KIND OF PUT SOME NUMBERS TO IT. SO YOU HAD SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE RESERVED FOR THAT PURPOSE. SO WITH ALL OF THAT, YOU PUT ALL OF THAT INTO THE CALCULUS THAT GOES INTO THIS AND YOU CAN SEE, AGAIN, THE BEGINNING FUND BALANCES THAT ARE HERE. I WILL SHOW YOU THAT FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR, IT DOES GO DOWN TO ABOUT $1 MILLION DOLLARS FOR THIS COMING FISCAL FISCAL YEAR, BUT IT GOES RIGHT BACK UP TO 67% THE YEAR AFTER BECAUSE THAT, AGAIN, THE ONE TIME CASH PURCHASE THAT WE USED TO BUY THAT PROPERTY WAS A SIGNIFICANT EXPENSE FOR THIS FUND. AND THEN YOU CAN SEE HOW THAT FUND BALANCE CONTINUES, EVEN WITH $55 MILLION DOLLARS IN CAPITAL PROGRAM, 35 MILLION FOR CHISHOLM SUMMIT, PLUS THE 20 MILLION FOR THE INDUSTRIAL PARK. THIS FUND BALANCE CONTINUES TO GROW EVERY YEAR. SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE'LL HAVE TO DO IS LOOK HOW WE CAN INVEST THOSE FUNDS. I KNOW COUNCILMEMBER MCCLENDON HAS TOLD ME MANY TIMES AND TOLD THE COUNCIL THAT IF WE END UP WITH 101% FUND BALANCE AT YEAR FIVE, THAT WE'RE NOT DOING SOMETHING RIGHT. SO WE'LL LOOK AT WAYS TO GIVE YOU OPTIONS TO INVEST THOSE DOLLARS IN A PROJECT THAT CAN GIVE US RETURNS FOR YEARS TO COME, JUST LIKE I THINK WE'VE HAD FOR A LOT OF THE ONES THAT HAVE BEEN INVESTED IN PREVIOUSLY. ANY QUESTIONS ON 4A. LOTS OF GOOD STUFF WE'LL JUMP INTO 4B AGAIN, THIS IS THE OTHER HALF OF HALF A CENT OR HALF A PERCENT THAT GOES IN FROM OUR SALES TAX. SO YOU'LL SEE THE EXACT SAME NUMBER OF SALES TAX REVENUE, 7.1 MILLION, BECAUSE IT'S THE SAME PERCENTAGE THE BUDGET'S $9 MILLION DOLLARS FOR THIS COMING YEAR AND THE FUND BALANCE AT THE END OF THIS YEAR WOULD BE 3.7. HERE ARE SOME OF THE MAJOR ELEMENTS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THIS FUND. 1.4 MILLION IS ALLOCATED FOR DEBT SERVICE. WE HAVE A NUMBER OF PROJECTS THAT ARE PLANNED OUT OF PARKS THAT YOU'VE SEEN THAT CAPITAL PROGRAM IS A $27 MILLION DOLLAR FIVE YEAR CAPITAL PLAN. SO WE'VE GOT A PLAN FOR WHAT THAT DEBT SERVICE WOULD BE FOR FY 23 PLUS EVERY YEAR AFTER THAT. SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT THOSE ARE. WE STILL HAVE DEBT THAT'S OWED ON THE GOLF COURSE, ALTHOUGH YOU HAVE, I BELIEVE, JUST THREE YEARS LEFT OF THAT DEBT SERVICE AND THEN THAT WILL DROP OFF. THAT WAS THE EXPANSION THAT WAS DONE SOME YEARS AGO, BUT THAT'S 376,000 FOR THAT DEBT SERVICE PAYMENT. THERE ARE SOME FINANCIAL INCENTIVES IN HERE FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THAT WE DID FOR SOME PROJECTS RELATED TO THE PLAZA, ALLEY CATS AND A FEW OTHER THINGS THAT WE'VE HAD. THAT'S ABOUT 566,000. WE ALSO HAD $2 MILLION DOLLARS FOR THE PARKS SERVICE CENTER EXPANSION. THIS IS THE PARKS ANNEX FACILITY THAT WE'RE BUILDING OUT THERE. WHEN WE SOLD THIS OTHER FACILITY NEXT TO THE FIRST BAPTIST CHURCH AND THEN WE'RE BUILDING THIS NEW FACILITY, THIS IS SOME OF THE FUNDING THAT'S GOING FOR THAT PROJECT. AND THEN WE'LL TALK ABOUT THIS IN MORE DETAIL. BUT THE SUBSIDY, THE 4B FUND PROVIDES A SUBSIDY PAYMENT TO BOTH THE GOLF FUND AND TO THE PARKS PERFORMANCE FUND TO PAY FOR ANY COST THAT CAN'T BE ABSORBED WITH THOSE FEES THAT ARE GENERATED IN THOSE FUNDS. [01:30:04] SO HERE'S WHAT THOSE ARE. AND THIS IS BY DESIGN. BOTH THE PARKS PERFORMANCE FUND AND THE GOLF FUND HAVE ALWAYS BEEN DESIGNED TO HAVE A PAYMENT IN FROM 4B, BUT IT'S $3.1 MILLION DOLLARS FOR PARKS PERFORMANCE FUND AND ABOUT $728,000 FOR A GOLF OPERATION. SO THAT'S KIND OF A QUICK HIT ON THAT. AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THE FINANCIALS HERE FOR THAT. AGAIN, YOU HAVE THE FUND BALANCE AT THE VERY TOP AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THE SALES TAX AND AGAIN, CONTINUES TO BE VERY STRONG. ALL THE SAME ASSUMPTIONS THAT WE'VE USED FOR THE GENERAL FUND SALES TAX WE'RE SHOWING FOR BOTH 4A AND 4B. SO HOPEFULLY THAT CONTINUES TO BE CONSERVATIVE AS WELL. YOU DO SEE THE DEBT SERVICE GROW SLIGHTLY WITH OUR CAPITAL PROGRAM. IT GROWS RATHER STRONG OVER 23 VERSUS 24. BUT THEN YOU CAN SEE IT KIND OF FLATTENS OUT AT A SUSTAINABLE LEVEL THAT'S NOT CONTINUE TO GO FORWARD, BUT THAT'S RELATED TO THE CAPITAL PROGRAM THAT WE'VE PROPOSED. THE GOLF COURSE, AS I MENTIONED TO YOU, YOU'VE GOT THREE WE HAVE THREE YEARS REMAINING ON THAT FOR 23, 24 AND 25. AND THEN THAT PAYMENT IS RETIRED. AND UNLESS THE COUNCIL WERE TO ISSUE MORE DEBT AND HAVE ANOTHER EXPANSION OR RENOVATION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, YOU WOULD NOT HAVE ANY MORE DEBT FOR THAT FACILITY. THE GOLF TRANSFER THEN IS PROJECTED AT $728,000. AND YOU CAN SEE KIND OF HOW THAT LOOKS OVER TIME. AND THEN YOU HAVE THE PARKS PERFORMANCE FUND. THIS IS THE SUBSIDY FOR THE BRICK, RUSSELL FARM, THE ATHLETIC FIELDS, OPERATIONS AND I'LL SHOW YOU THAT IN MORE DETAIL HERE IN A MOMENT. BUT THAT'S WHAT THAT TOTAL SUBSIDY AND TOTAL PAYMENT IS FROM 4B. AND ALL OF THAT, AT THE END OF THE DAY GETS YOU TO AN ESTIMATED FUND BALANCE FOR NEXT YEAR, 41%. AND WE BELIEVE THAT STILL REMAINS VERY, VERY STRONG FOR ALL FIVE YEARS OF THE PLAN. WHAT ARE OTHER EXPENDITURES? SO OTHER EXPENDITURES THAT WE WOULD HAVE. SO SOME OF THAT, FOR EXAMPLE, THE 3.3 MILLION, I BELIEVE 2 MILLION OF THAT IS RELATED TO THE PARKS ANNEX FACILITY. AND THEN YOU WOULD HAVE SOME OTHER ELEMENTS, THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT ARE MISCELLANEOUS. I DON'T KNOW IF JOHN OR MARTIN YOU HAVE SOME OTHER DETAILS. WE ALSO THERE'S SOME PERSONNEL COSTS THAT WE'VE MOVED OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND INTO MORE SO THE ADMINISTRATION OF THE PARKS THAT'S IN THERE AS WELL. AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE IN THERE SOME INCENTIVES, DOLLARS THAT ARE GOING TO BE THE POSSIBILITY OF BEING PAID OUT IS IN THERE AS WELL. SHOULD WE SEPARATE AND HAVE LIKE A PERSONNEL THEN LIKE WE DO? WE COULD BUT YES, WE CAN DO THAT AND PROVIDE YOU THAT DETAIL AS WELL. OTHER, SEEMS VERY AMBIGUOUS. RIGHT RIGHT. IT CAN MEAN ANYTHING AND THAT I DON'T LIKE DEALING WITH. COUNCILMEMBER JOHNSON JUST FOR THE RECORD, I ASKED THE SAME QUESTION LAST YEAR. LAST YEAR YOU DID. WHEN I SAW IT FOR THE FIRST TIME BECAUSE I WAS LIKE, WHAT IS THE OTHER? THE ACCOUNTANT, ALWAYS SAYS DON'T EVER PUT OTHER OR UNCATEGORIZED EXPENDITURES ON THERE. I'VE NEVER SAID THAT. NOT YOU. [LAUGHTER] WE COULD SAY NON SUBSIDY EXPENDITURES, BUT WE CAN DO THAT VERY MUCH SO ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S LIKE I NOW UNDERSTAND LIKE THE 2 MILLION MAKES SENSE, BUT WHEN YOU SEE A NUMBER LIKE THAT, YOU'RE LIKE, THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY. DID WE REALLY NEED THAT? YEAH. DID WE NEED THAT MANY BIC PENS? IT'S A GREAT POINT. WE HAVE ALL OF THAT DETAIL, BUT JUST FOR THE SAKE OF PRESENTATION, WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP IT SO MANY LINES. SURE UNDERSTAND. BUT WE CERTAINLY CAN GET YOU THAT DETAIL. I NEED ALL THE INFORMATION AND OKAY THE OTHER, YOU KNOW MY QUESTIONS COMING ABOUT THE FUND BALANCE. YEP. I MEAN, THE THING I LIKE HOW IS THIS FUND IN PARTICULAR, ONE THAT'S ABLE TO FLIP FROM A NEGATIVE BACK TO A POSITIVE? SO YOU HAVE RETIREMENT OF DEBT IS A COMPONENT OF THAT. LIKE I SEE THE DEBT FOR WHEN THE GOLF COURSE FALLS OFF BUT THEN THE 26, 27, IT GOES BACK UP TO $600,000. SO YEAH, SO IN YEAR 28, 29, AS YOU LOOK AT THAT OVER A TEN YEAR PLAN, IT HAS THAT DEBT CONTINUES TO BE RETIRED OFF, SOME OF THAT DEBT GETS RETIRED EACH YEAR AND YOU HAVE CONTINUED GROWTH IN THE REVENUES THAT YOU HAVE THERE. THE OTHER THING I WOULD TELL YOU TOO, ON THIS ONE IS WE HAVE A PLAN FOR CIP, BUT THAT'S NOT DEBT UNTIL YOU ISSUE THE BONDS. I UNDERSTAND THAT. SO EVERY YEAR YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THIS AND DECIDE, FOR EXAMPLE, IN 25, FY 25, YOU'LL HAVE A BETTER FEEL FOR HOW'S THE ECONOMY, HOW HAVE THINGS BEEN HERE? AND YOU CAN DECIDE IF YOU ARE COMFORTABLE. IS IT WORTH TAKING A HIT TO OUR FUND BALANCE OR IMPROVING THIS PARK? [01:35:04] HOPEFULLY, YES. THAT'S THE KIND OF THE QUESTION THAT YOU'LL HAVE, BUT YOU'LL HAVE A YEAR BY YEAR YOU GET TO MAKE THAT DECISION. RIGHT. AND SO IF YOU DO HAVE ANY FINANCIAL STRESS, THEN YOU COULD CERTAINLY PUSH THOSE THINGS OFF. GOOD QUESTIONS. OK. ALL RIGHT. SO ONE OF THE FUNDS THAT'S VERY CLOSELY RELATED TO 4B IS THE PARKS PERFORMANCE FUND. THEY'RE INTERTWINED BECAUSE OF THE SUBSIDY THAT'S PAID FROM 4B. THE PARKS PERFORMANCE FUND REVENUES, AS YOU KNOW, WERE HIGHLY IMPACTED BY COVID 19. WE BASICALLY HAD TO SHUT DOWN THE BRICK FOR A PERIOD OF TIME. AND WE'RE STILL RECOVERING FROM THAT. WE DO BELIEVE THE REVENUES WILL INCREASE 50% FROM THE PRIOR YEAR, BUT IT'S STILL ONLY ABOUT 80% OF WHAT IT WAS PRIOR TO THE COVID 19 PANDEMIC. SO WE'RE STILL TRYING TO GET BACK TO WHERE WE WERE ON THE BRICK IN PARTICULAR, BUT WE HAVE MADE A LOT OF PROGRESS. SO WE'RE PROJECTING THAT THE REVENUES WOULD BE 95% OF PRE-COVID LEVELS BY THIS BUDGET. HOPEFULLY, THAT'S A CONSERVATIVE PROJECTION. BUT WE HAVE SEEN STEADY GAINS IN ALL THOSE AREAS, AND WE'RE HOPEFULLY TO GET BACK TO THAT SOON. WE STILL OUR REPLACING THE CASH FUNDING, REPLACEMENT OF A LOT OF EQUIPMENT. SO THESE ARE TREADMILLS AND BIKES AND A LOT OF THE OTHER EQUIPMENT'S THERE TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S ALWAYS FRESH AND GOOD WORKING CONDITIONS. SO WE HAVE A GOOD EQUIPMENT THAT'S THERE FOR MEMBERS AND YOU HAVE A REASON TO WANT TO BE A MEMBER OF THAT, THAT YOU'RE ALWAYS GOING TO HAVE A GOOD EXPERIENCE. YOU DON'T WANT TO SHOW UP AND HAVE THIS HORRIBLE PIECE OF PAPER THAT SAYS OUT OF SERVICE, THAT'S REALLY OBNOXIOUS. NO, I'M VERY PROUD OF US REPLACING OUR EQUIPMENT. I'VE HAD GOOD FEEDBACK ABOUT THAT. SO THANKS FOR THAT. GREAT GLAD TO HEAR THAT. AND THEN THE TRANSFER, AS WE MENTIONED, WAS FOUR EXCUSE ME, $3.1 MILLION DOLLARS FOR THIS COMING YEAR. ALL RIGHT. SO BRICK OPERATIONS, WE DO HAVE PLANNED AS WELL. I BELIEVE IT'S ON SEPTEMBER 6 TO COME BACK TO THE COUNCIL AND PROVIDE SOME MORE DETAILS ON THE BRICK IN PARTICULAR. I THINK THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS WHEN WE PRESENTED THIS A FEW MONTHS AGO ABOUT HOW COULD WE MANAGE THINGS A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY TO INFLUENCE SOME OF THESE SELF SUSTAINING NUMBERS? WHAT COULD WE DO FROM A REVENUE STANDPOINT? WHAT CAN WE DO FROM A COST STANDPOINT? SO WE'RE GOING TO BRING BACK SOME OPTIONS FOR YOU TO CONSIDER IN A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL IN THE NEXT MONTH OR SO. BUT WE HAVE BUILT THE BUDGET KIND OF ON OUR BASE OPERATIONS RIGHT NOW, AND WE WANTED TO SHARE THESE NUMBERS WITH YOU. SO YOU HAVE THE MEMBERSHIP LEVELS THAT YOU CAN SEE HERE. AGAIN, 18, 19, PRE COVID 19 WAS ABOUT $1.4 MILLION DOLLARS. AND YOU CAN SEE HOW SUBSTANTIAL OF AN IMPACT THAT REALLY WAS TO US THAT FOLLOWING YEAR. IT'S JUST CUT THAT IN HALF INSTANTLY, JUST VERY, VERY QUICKLY. AND IT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE A LOT OF THE OTHER REVENUES THAT WE HAD ACROSS THE CITY ACTUALLY WENT UP DURING COVID 19. BUT IN THE BRICK, IT WAS VERY OPPOSITE. YOU KNOW, IT WAS JUST A VERY HARD HIT INDUSTRY AT THAT TIME. IT DIDN'T RECOVER A WHOLE LOT IN 21. WE'VE SEEN SOME GROWTH BACK HERE AND THEN YOU ARE SEEING IT GO BACK UP TO 1.4 MILLION FOR THIS COMING BUDGET. THE RECREATION FEES HAVE STARTED TO RECOVER AS WELL, BUT WE'RE NOT QUITE ALL THE WAY BACK ON THOSE EITHER OTHER REVENUES. WE DO HAVE SOME OTHER ONES NOT AS LARGE AS THE OTHER CATEGORY THAT WE HAD, BUT WE DO HAVE SOME OF THOSE AS WELL. AND THEN YOU CAN SEE ALL OF OUR EXPENDITURES HERE AND THE NET LOSS OR SUBSIDY THAT'S REQUIRED FROM 4B, THAT'S ABOUT 49% COST RECOVERY. I WILL SAY IN 18-19, THERE WERE SOME COSTS THAT WERE INCLUDED IN THERE. AND MARTIN TALKED ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT, WHAT WE CALL INDIRECT COSTS. SO THESE ARE EMPLOYEES THAT MAY WORK IN H.R. IN FINANCE, CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, MAYBE ADMINISTRATION FOR THE PARKS THAT THEY'RE SHARED WITH A LOT OF DIFFERENT AREAS. THE 4B FUND AND THE PARKS PERFORMANCE FUND IN PARTICULAR WAS NOT GETTING THEIR FULL SHARE OF THAT COST. SO SOME OF THIS CHANGE IS OPERATIONS AND HOW THE OPERATIONS HAVE BEEN AFFECTED BY COVID 19. AND SOME OF IT HAS BEEN A MORE ACCURATE WHAT WE BELIEVE IS A MORE ACCURATE ACCOUNTING OF WHERE THOSE COSTS NEED TO GO AND SHOWING WHERE THEY NEED TO BE. SO WE COMPLETED A WHAT'S CALLED AN INDIRECT COST PLAN, AND WE LOOKED AT THE STUDY TO LOOK AT SPECIFICALLY WHAT WERE THE CALCULATIONS REQUIRED, WHERE DO THOSE NUMBERS NEED TO GO AND ALL THE VARIOUS FUNDS? BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE GENERAL FUND IN PARTICULAR IS NOT SUBSIDIZING ANOTHER FUND UNKNOWINGLY BY PAYING MORE THAN ITS FAIR SHARE OF COST FOR OTHER OPERATIONS, WHETHER THEY'RE IN 4B OR 4A OR WATER OR THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. SO SOME OF THAT IS PROBABLY NOT AN APPLES TO APPLES LOOK. SO I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT TO YOU. ATHLETIC FIELDS CONTINUES TO BE SOMETHING THAT HAS A VERY LOW SELF SUSTAINING RATE. [01:40:01] IT HASN'T CHANGED TREMENDOUSLY OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS. WE'RE HAVING GOOD TOURNAMENTS, GOOD LEAGUES OUT THERE, A LOT OF GOOD A LOT OF GOOD ACTIVITIES OUT THERE. BUT FROM A REVENUE PERSPECTIVE, SIMPLY NOT ENOUGH TO COVER ALL OF ITS COST. THIS IS SOCCER AND CHISHOLM FIELDS? I BELIEVE IT'S BOTH, YES. OKAY. IS THAT CORRECT, JEN? YES. OKAY. IF YOU NEED TO, YOU CAN COME UP HERE. I THINK SHE'S OUR FIRST DIRECTOR UP HERE OTHER THAN MARTIN SO THAT'S GREAT. I HAD A FEELING. [LAUGHTER] YEAH. SO THE CONTRACT FOR THAT DOES GO BACK INTO THE GENERAL FUND WHEN IT'S DONE. SO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEE THE REVENUES ON THAT FOR HERE. BUT THIS IS ALL OF CHISHOLM HALL. AND THEN IF WE EVER ASSIST AT BARTLETT, IF WE HAVE TO REPAIR CONCESSION STANDS, I KNOW WE REPLACED SOME LIGHTS OUT THERE THIS YEAR THAT ALL IS SHOWN IN THIS PARK PERFORMANCE FUNDS UNDER ATHLETICS. WHY DOES THAT [INAUDIBLE] CONTRACT GO INTO THE GENERAL FUND AND NOT INTO THIS? GOOD QUESTION. I DON'T KNOW. LOOK IT UP. MARTIN WRITE THAT DOWN. AND HOW MUCH IS THAT? IT'S VERY INCONSEQUENTIAL. IT'S A VERY SMALL AMOUNT. YEAH, IT'S STILL LIKE THAT. I MEAN, IT WOULD GO I MEAN, THAT JUST MAKES SENSE IF YOU'RE GOING TO REPAIR SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO IN THE NEAR FUTURE. REGRADE YEAH, WE WILL BE DOING SUBSTANTIAL UPGRADES SIGNIFICANT WITH THOSE SOCCER FIELDS. SO THAT JUST DOESN'T MEAN EVEN IF IT IS 2000, I MEAN, THAT'S THE POINT. IT NEEDS TO GO THAT WAY. IT'S CIRCLING BACK AND IT'S BEING SPENT WHERE IT'S. YEP, IT'S A GOOD POINT. WE'LL MAKE WE'LL MAKE THAT CHANGE. PUT THAT IN THERE. YOU BET. RUSSELL FARM IS THE OTHER COMPONENT. I THINK WE'RE ALL VERY FAMILIAR WITH RUSSELL FARM. THEY STILL HAVE SOME EVENTS OUT THERE, SOME REVENUE COMING IN, BUT THE COST RECOVERY IS LOW AND IT'S KIND OF BEEN CONSISTENT OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, ALTHOUGH IT WAS A LITTLE BIT HIGHER UP IN 2018, 2019. I THINK THEY'RE THEY WERE ALSO IMPACTED BY SOME OF THE COVID 19 AND SOME OF THE EVENTS THAT THEY WERE HAVING OUT THERE COULD NO LONGER HAVE. AND WE'RE STILL TRYING TO RECOVER TO THAT LEVEL. SO ALL TOLD, IF YOU PUT ALL OF THAT TOGETHER BEFORE YOU GO ON. OH, YES, SIR. LET ME MAKE ONE STATEMENT. AND THIS IS AN OVERALL STATEMENT ABOUT THE THE WHOLE SITUATION AS FAR AS FUNDING. WHEN WE BUILT THE BREAK, WHEN WE HAVE THE GOLF COURSE, RUSSELL FARM, WE KNEW WE WEREN'T GOING TO BREAK EVEN EVERY YEAR. IT IS A WE WERE PROVIDING FOR THE CITY THINGS TO DO AND I'M OKAY WITH THAT. I FOR 1 A.M. OKAY WITH THAT AND WE'LL PROBABLY NEVER BREAK EVEN, FOR EXAMPLE, OUR GOLF COURSE AND WE MAY NOT WITH THE BRICK, BUT THAT'S OKAY BECAUSE AGAIN, WE'RE PROVIDING THIS FOR THE CITIZENS. AND WE JUST HAVE TO WE HAVE TO ACCEPT THAT IF IT GETS OUT OF HAND, WE'LL DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. BUT I DON'T SEE THAT EVER HAPPENING. BUT IT'S JUST A STATEMENT THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO BREAK EVEN ON EVERYTHING WE DO. RIGHT. IT'S DEFINITELY A SERVICE. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, LIKE YOU'RE SAYING, WE'RE WATCHING THAT FUND BALANCE AND WE'RE ADEQUATELY MOVING DOLLARS. AND LIKE, IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING PAYING INTO IT OR PAYING, THEN IT SHOULD BE REGENERATING INTO THAT FUND. IT'S CATCH EVERY LITTLE BIT IS GOING TO COUNT, ESPECIALLY IN OUR RECREATIONAL DEPARTMENT. THIS IS A SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY AND TO OUR FAMILIES. I GREW UP WITH THE COMMUNITY CENTER AND IN MY HEAD THIS BASICALLY REPLACED THE COMMUNITY CENTER. ONLY NOW IT HAS FITNESS EQUIPMENT TOO. BUT MY BROTHER TOOK KARATE THERE. I TOOK DANCE AND THERE WERE TUMBLE CLASSES AND EVERYTHING. AND I WOULD LIKE TO I THINK THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THEM OF TALKING ABOUT HOW THE BRICK AND THESE SERVICES THAT WE PROVIDE GROW MORE IN THAT COMMUNITY MINDSET LIKE YMCA VERSUS WE'RE ABOUT TO HAVE SOME MORE COMPETITION WITHIN LA FITNESS GOING IN OFF 731. SO THINKING ABOUT FULL FAMILY WELLNESS AND NOT JUST PHYSICAL BUT MENTAL AND EMOTIONAL AND ALL THOSE SPORTS AND FUN ACTIVITIES FOR KIDDOS. ALL RIGHT. WELL, WE APPRECIATE THAT AND AGREE ON THOSE POINTS. SO WE'LL CONTINUE TO TRY TO WORK ON THAT. AND WE WILL BRING YOU SOME INFORMATION AGAIN IN THE NEXT MONTH OR SO AND TRY TO SEE WHAT ELSE WE CAN DO TO KIND OF WITH THAT SAID, WE ALWAYS WANT TO MAXIMIZE THE VALUE THAT WE HAVE AND TRY TO HAVE REVENUES AS STRONG AS THEY CAN BE. SO WE'LL BRING YOU SOME OPTIONS ON THAT. ALL RIGHT. GOLF COURSE, HIDDEN CREEK GOLF COURSE, PROPOSED BUDGET'S $2.9 MILLION DOLLARS AGAINST SOME OF THIS STUFF WE'VE ALREADY COVERED. IT DOES HAVE ABOUT $450,000 OR 445 FOR OPERATIONS. $285,000 IS RELATED ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS, 376 FOR DEBT SERVICE THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, THE TOTAL TRANSFER IS 1.1 MILLION AND ABOUT 1.2 MILLION IS OUR PERSONNEL COSTS. [01:45:03] AND IT DOES PROJECT ABOUT 1.8 MILLION IN REVENUE. I THINK JUST WANTED TO SHOW YOU A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY ON THIS IN TERMS OF ROUNDS PLAYED AND REVENUE. THE GOLF COURSE IS DOING REALLY, REALLY WELL. IN FACT, I THINK BOTH OF THESE ARE RECORD NUMBERS OR ARE PRETTY CLOSE TO THEM IN TERMS OF THE ROUNDS AND REVENUES. SO WE'RE VERY PLEASED TO SEE HOW WELL THE GOLF COURSE IS DOING. WE'VE HAD JAMES OUT THERE WITH JENS LEADERSHIP DOING A LOT OF GREAT THINGS. THERE'S MORE TO BE DONE, CERTAINLY, BUT WE THINK WE'RE CERTAINLY HEADED IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION ON THAT. DO WE STILL HAVE THAT MEMBERSHIP THING GOING ON, JEN? YES, WE DO. WE DO HAVE THE MEMBERSHIP, YEAH. THAT'S AWESOME. DO YOU HAVE YOUR MEMBERSHIP? ARE YOU OUT THERE? WOW. I BET SHE DOES. MISS PEGGY LOVES HER GOLF. MY HUSBAND HAS KICKED AROUND DOING IT AND I DIDN'T KNOW IF IT WAS STILL AROUND. THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS, ARE WE HAVING AS MANY GOLF TOURNAMENTS AS WE USED TO? I'LL LET JEN MAYBE ADDRESS THAT. THE ANSWER, IT LOOKS LIKE SHE GAVE ME A HEAD NOD OF YES. SORRY JEN. BUT IF YOU WANT TO PROVIDE MORE DETAILS ON THAT? I'D LOVE TO GET AN UPDATE ON A FRIDAY REPORT JUST ON THE MEMBERSHIPS AND VERSUS REGULAR ROUNDS, BECAUSE I WAS REALLY EXCITED WHEN WE LAUNCHED THE MEMBERSHIPS AND I THINK IT MAKES A DIFFERENCE. SO I'D LOVE TO GET JUST A QUICK UPDATE ON THAT. YOU BET. WE'LL BE GLAD TO DO THAT. SO MONTHLY, WHEN WE DO OUR PARK BOARD REPORT, WE DO THAT EXACT SLIDE THAT SHOWS ALL FIVE OF THOSE BREAKDOWNS. SO ROUNDS, REVENUE, MEMBERSHIP NUMBERS, HOW MANY TOURNAMENTS HOSTED, HOW MANY RAIN DAYS OR PLAYABLE DAYS WE'VE HAD. SO WHEN YOU GUYS GET THAT IN YOUR FRIDAY REPORT, THAT'S TWO SLIDES. AND THERE THOSE TABLES ARE ALL PROVIDED. BUT WE ARE UP ON TOURNAMENTS. WE HAVE HAD JUST AS MANY, IF NOT MORE THAN THE LAST THREE YEARS. AND SAME THING MEMBERSHIPS. THEY PLATEAUED A LITTLE BIT IN THE WINTER, WHICH WE ANTICIPATED THEN THEY'VE BEEN SLOWLY AND STEADILY GROWING OVER THE SUMMER. NO, NO. BUT YOU KNOW, THE THE COURSE IS CURRENTLY A LITTLE PARCHED, BUT YEAH, WE'RE WORKING THROUGH IT. YEAH, A FEW RAIN DAYS WOULD BE GOOD. MAYBE JUST A FEW. [LAUGHTER] I'LL TAKE ONE AT THIS POINT ANY ONE DAY. ALL RIGHT. SO HERE'S THE FINANCIAL OVERVIEW FOR THE GOLF FUND. AND I DID WANT TO BE CLEAR, THERE IS NO FUND BALANCE KEPT IN THIS FUND BECAUSE IT IS ZEROED OUT EVERY YEAR BECAUSE THE DELTA IS MADE UP OUT OF 4B. SO IT'S DIFFERENT THAN SOME OF THE OTHER FUNDS. BUT YOU CAN SEE AGAIN THE DEBT SERVICE TRANSFER OF HOW THAT ENDS COMING FORWARD. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE PERCENTAGE OF SELF SUSTAINING, I WANTED TO SAY THIS, THIS IS YOUR BEST PERFORMING BY FAR YOUR BEST PERFORMING PARK ASSET THAT YOU HAVE IN THE SYSTEM. SO IT'S OVER 60%. AND I KNOW THAT'S SOMETIMES DIFFERENT THAN THE NARRATIVE THAT PERHAPS YOU'VE HEARD, BUT IT IS BY FAR THE BEST PERFORMING ASSET THAT YOU HAVE AND SOME OF YOUR ASSETS THAT ARE NOT IN THE PARK PERFORMANCE FUND, WARREN PARK AS AN EXAMPLE, THAT WOULD BE ZERO. IT'S ZERO ON SELF SUPPORTING. SO IF YOU LOOK AT PARK FACILITIES IN GENERAL. WE DON'T CHARGE PER. WE DO NOT. PER ROUND ON THE MERRY GO ROUND? THAT'S RIGHT. I THINK WE'RE MISSING OUR MARK ON THAT. SO IT'S NOT UNUSUAL IN THAT BUSINESS. I'M KIDDING. I THINK TO THE POINTS THAT YOU HAD MADE EARLIER, THESE ARE ASSETS AND THESE ARE PROGRAMS AND SERVICES THAT WE'RE TRYING TO PROVIDE. THIS CERTAINLY FALLS IN THAT CATEGORY AS WELL. I'M VERY PROUD OF FINALLY FIXING THE FENCE, SOME OF THE AESTHETICS TO LIKE THE OUTSIDE WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING BY WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. I'M VERY PROUD THAT WE HAVE MADE SOME IMPROVEMENTS ON THAT. WE NO LONGER HAVE T POST HOLDING UP STRING. IT LOOKED IT JUST LOOKS BETTER AND I'M PROUD OF HOW WE'RE DISPLAYING IT BECAUSE WHEN I WORKED FOR THE CITY MANY MOONS AGO, IT WAS LIKE THE TOP FIVE MUNICIPAL PLAYED GOLF COURSE IN THE METROPLEX. SO I THINK IT'S ALWAYS HAS PLAYERS, WHETHER IT'S 109 DEGREES OUTSIDE OR FREEZING, SURPRISINGLY. RIGHT. [LAUGHTER] WELL, WE APPRECIATE THAT. AGAIN, WE'VE BEEN TRYING VERY HARD AND I KNOW JEN AND HER TEAM HAVE BEEN TRYING VERY HARD TO MAKE THOSE IMPROVEMENTS. AND I THINK AS WE LOOK AT THE HIDDEN CREEK CORRIDOR AND DEPENDING ON WHAT HAPPENS WITH THAT WITH DEVELOPMENT, THERE'S OTHER OPPORTUNITIES TO MAKE IT EVEN NICER WITH THE CLUBHOUSE AND SOME SIGNAGE AND DOING SOME THINGS AS AN ENTRY WAY OFF OF HIDDEN CREEK. SO MORE TO COME ON THAT. ALL RIGHT. SO LET'S TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE OTHER MISCELLANEOUS FUNDS THAT ARE OUT THERE. TIF NUMBER 2, THIS IS THE OLD TOWN DOWNTOWN TIF. NOT A LOT HERE TO SHARE WITH YOU. WE'VE GOT THE BUDGET PERSONNEL COST AND THEN THE COMMITMENT FOR THE ELLISON STREET PROJECT, ABOUT $3.2 MILLION DOLLARS. THIS IS TO BUILD THAT OFFICE SPACE THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT RIGHT ACROSS HERE HOPEFULLY BE UNDER CONSTRUCTION. WELL, IT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION, BUT HOPEFULLY GOING VERTICAL IN THE NEAR FUTURE. DEBT SERVICE PAYMENTS. AND THEN WE HAVE OUR ENDING FUND BALANCE, WHICH IS STILL VERY HEALTHY. IS THIS PERSONNEL AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND THEN THE OFFICERS TWO. THAT'S CORRECT. TWO? RIGHT. I BELIEVE THERE'S TWO POLICE OFFICERS THAT WE ADDED LAST YEAR. [01:50:04] TWO POLICE OFFICERS. AND THEN THERE WAS ONE OTHER POSITION THAT WE HAD OUT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, I BELIEVE JONI'S POSITION. JONI? YES, MA'AM. OKAY. SO THREE TOTAL. YES, MA'AM. CORRECT MARTIN? OKAY. THE MAINTENANCE THE GROUNDS MAINTENANCE. YES. THANK YOU. I THINK TOMMY. YEAH, I THINK IS HIS NAME. YEAH. YEAH, HE DOES A GREAT JOB. HE HELPS KEEP THE PLAZA LOOKING NICE. YES, MA'AM. AND THEN GOING FORWARD, YOU'LL HAVE THE DEBT SERVICE ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PROJECT ACROSS THE STREET AS WELL AS WE TALKED ABOUT THE IMPROVEMENTS ON ELLISON STREET DOWN HERE WITH A NEW PARKING LOT, SOME OF THOSE COSTS WILL BE INCLUDED IN THAT AS WELL GOING FORWARD. SOME OF THE OTHER SMALLER FUNDS THAT WE HAVE RELATED TO COURT. WE HAVE OUR COURT SECURITY FUND, TECHNOLOGY FUND AND MANAGEMENT FUND. BY LAW, WE'RE REQUIRED TO COLLECT CERTAIN FEES ON EVERY COURT CASE AND EVERY CITATION THAT'S ISSUED. AND THESE FUNDS HAVE VERY SPECIFIC PURPOSES OF WHAT THEY CAN AND CANNOT BE USED FOR. SO THIS TRACKS ALL OF THOSE BUT FAIRLY SMALL ISSUES, BUT THEY'RE ALSO IN THE BUDGET. WE ALSO HAVE THE PUBLIC EDUCATION AND GOVERNMENT FUNDS, OTHERWISE KNOWN AS PEG FEES. SO THESE ARE A FEE THAT'S ADDED TO EVERY CABLE SUBSCRIBER AND THEY'RE USED TO PAY FOR COST RELATED TO OUR GOVERNMENT CHANNEL, OUR CHANNEL THAT BROADCAST CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS AND SOME OTHER PUBLIC MEETINGS THAT WE HAVE. THIS HAS A FAIRLY SMALL BALANCE IN IT RIGHT NOW, ABOUT 30,000. BUT WE'VE ALSO INCLUDED 100, I BELIEVE IT WAS $140,000 DOLLARS FOR POTENTIAL CITY HALL RENOVATION, WHICH WE'LL BE DISCUSSING ON AUGUST 15TH OF INCLUDING A NEW STUDIO SPACE FOR OUR COMMUNICATIONS TEAM WHERE YOU COULD DO VIDEOS, PROGRAMING, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS FOR THAT GOVERNMENT CHANNEL THAT WE HAVE. SO WE'VE EARMARKED SOME MONEY FOR THAT PURPOSE. IF THE COUNCIL DECIDES NOT TO DO THAT, THEN THOSE FUNDS WOULD COME BACK INTO THIS. WE ALSO ALL THE TECHNOLOGY UPGRADES THAT WE'VE DONE OVER HERE, THE VOTING SYSTEM, THE DIFFERENT IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE'VE MADE OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS WITH THE SCREENS AND ALL THOSE THINGS, THOSE ARE ALL COMING OUT OF THESE FUNDS. OKAY. HOTEL/MOTEL FUND, I THINK WE'VE SPENT QUITE A BIT OF TIME WITH YOU ON THIS. AGAIN, THESE ARE DEDICATED BY LAW TO CERTAIN ACTIVITIES. WE HAVE ALL OF THE HOT FUND RECIPIENTS THAT ARE GETTING THE FUNDING THAT YOU'VE AUTHORIZED PREVIOUSLY, AS WELL AS JUST ON MONDAY, YOU HAD THE $225,000 CONTRACT TO DO THE CAMERAS OUT HERE IN THE PLAZA. SO THAT'S ANOTHER PROJECT. AND YOU STILL HAVE A VERY HEALTHY FUND BALANCE OF ABOUT 500,000 THAT WE'RE ESTIMATING AT THE END OF THIS COMING FISCAL YEAR TO YOU. SOME OF THAT ALSO WILL BE FOR PUBLIC ART. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE COUNCIL WAS INTERESTED IN IS DOING A PUBLIC ART PROGRAM WE'LL BE COMING BACK TO YOU AND TALKING ABOUT A PUBLIC ART POLICY, HOW YOU WANT TO ADMINISTER THAT, WHAT PROJECTS YOU'D WANT TO USE, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS AND BRINGING THAT BACK IN FRONT OF YOU SOON. DID WE USE THIS FUND TO PAY FOR THE ART AT BAILEY LAKE? NO, IT WAS NOT. I DIDN'T THINK SO. WE USED GENERAL FUND? YES, I BELIEVE THAT'S CORRECT. IS THERE ANY. MIGHT BE A LITTLE LATE NOW. IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN REIMBURSE FROM HOTEL/MOTEL? PROBABLY. WE PROBABLY COULD. I DON'T THINK IT WAS A SIGNIFICANT EXPENSE. NO. BUT TO YOUR POINT, EVERY DOLLAR MATTERS. AND I THINK WE COULD LOOK AT DOING THAT. I WANT TO SAY THAT WAS 15,000. I DON'T KNOW LISA CAN MAYBE SHE CAN ADDRESS THAT. HOPEFULLY I SAID THAT RIGHT, LISA. GOOD MORNING. YES, IT WAS 13 FROM THE GENERAL. AND THEN THERE WAS 2000 DONATED BY KBB. YES THAT'S RIGHT. AND ARE YOU REQUESTING MORE NEXT YEAR IN YOUR BUDGET? REMEMBER WE TALKED ABOUT THAT. WE WILL HAVE A PUBLIC ART POLICY COMING TO YOU SOON AND WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS THAT. OKAY. YES. BUT THAT WOULD ALL BE OUT OF THE HOT FUND? YES, HOT FUND. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING. YES. THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S NOT COMING OUT OF YOUR BUDGET, BUT WE'RE MOVING IT OUT OF THE HOT MOT BECAUSE. YES, THAT'S CORRECT. THAT CAN BE USED FOR THAT. GREAT. THAT WILL BE COMING TO YOU SOON. GREAT. THANK YOU. AND IT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING IF YOU DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH HOT FUNDS AND YOU WANT TO DO EVEN MORE, YOU CAN ALWAYS SUPPLEMENT IT. OF COURSE. OKAY. THAT IS IT FOR ALL OF THE OPERATING FUNDS. ALMOST 80 SLIDES. THEY SAID IT COULDN'T BE DONE, BUT WE'RE GETTING CLOSE. SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO JUMP INTO THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM. AND I'M GOING TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT ALL THE PIECES OF THIS. AND AGAIN, YOU'VE SEEN ALL OF THIS PREVIOUSLY AS WE WENT THROUGH IT. BUT I THINK SUMMARIZING IT FOR YOU IS HELPFUL AS WE LOOK AT REALLY A VERY LARGE PORTION OF WHAT WE DO WILL BE IN THE CIP PROGRAM OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS. SO AS YOU KNOW, THE VOTERS IN MAY APPROVED AN $88 MILLION DOLLAR BOND PROGRAM. YOU'LL SEE HERE ON THIS CHART, THIS IS 86 MILLION THAT'S SHOWN. [01:55:02] AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS ABOUT 1.4 MILLION IS PROPOSED TO BE ISSUED THIS YEAR TO GET IT STARTED ON SOME OF THOSE PROJECTS. AND THEN THE REMAINING WOULD BE HERE AND THIS IS THE SCHEDULE OF HOW THOSE PROJECTS WILL BE DONE. AND GOING FORWARD. AGAIN, ALL THE ONES THAT YOU SEE HERE IN 23 I PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED TO YOU AND THEN THE LARGER PIECES, MOST IMPORTANTLY, THE POLICE EXPANSION WOULD BE SPLIT BETWEEN THESE TWO FISCAL YEARS BASED ON THE PROJECT THAT WE SELECT IN THE CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE. BUT WE'VE PRELIMINARILY JUST PUT IN A MONEY BASICALLY EVEN BETWEEN EACH YEAR. AND THE RENFRO WILL COME OFF THAT SOMEWHAT, RIGHT? YES, SIR. SO THAT 2.0, THAT'S AN EXCELLENT POINT. THE $2.7 MILLION DOLLARS WAS HERE. WE NOW HAVE THAT FUNDED BY TXDOT. SO THAT'S A NUMBER OF YEARS OUT. AND WHEN WE GET THERE, YOU COULD EITHER REDUCE THE TAX RATE TO REDUCE YOUR BONDING CAPACITY, OR YOU COULD USE THAT FOR OTHER PROJECTS POTENTIALLY IF YOU WANTED TO ISSUE COS FOR ANOTHER PROJECT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT OR WITH INFLATION THE OTHER THING WE WOULD TELL YOU IS IT'S HARD TO PROJECT. YES, SIR. IT'S HARD TO PROJECT EXACTLY WHAT SOME OF THESE PROJECTS WILL BE. WE'VE DONE OUR BEST TO PUT INFLATION ADJUSTMENTS ON ALL THESE, BUT IF WE'RE WRONG SIGNIFICANTLY, THEN THOSE ARE DOLLARS THAT YOU COULD REPROGRAM FOR SOMETHING ELSE. HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE OTHER GRANT DOLLARS THOUGH, TOO. WE'RE TRYING. ALL RIGHT. SO THAT'S THE GENERAL GOVERNMENT CIP, AS I MENTIONED TO YOU, THE PARKS AND GOLF CIP IS ABOUT 27 MILLION OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. JEN BASHAM HAD PRESENTED THESE TO YOU, I THINK IN THE MAY OR JUNE TIMEFRAME AND OR MAYBE APRIL AND WENT THROUGH ALL THESE IN DETAIL WITH YOU. SO UNLESS YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ON IT, I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THESE. I WILL SAY ON THE NEXT SLIDE, IN OUR GOLF COURSE IN PARTICULAR, SINCE WE HAD SOME DISCUSSION ON THAT, WE DID HAVE SOME FUNDS FOR A MONUMENT SIGN AND BUNKER REPLACEMENT. THE BUNKERS ARE IN POOR SHAPE AND THESE ARE MUCH MORE SIGNIFICANT EXPENSES TO REPLACE THESE THAN I KNEW. BUT YOU HAD TO REPLACE THEM. YOU HAVE TO DIG THEM OUT, REPLACE THE LINERS, AND THEN REFILL THEM. SO THEY'RE MORE. WHAT'S LEFT OF THE LINERS. YES, MA'AM. YEAH. DETERIORATED. YEAH, BAD. SO THERE'S MONEY IN THERE. WE HAVE BROKEN THAT UP. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK IS WHEN WE TOUR THE GOLF COURSE WITH JAMES AND JEN, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S UNDER UNDER STATED IS THIS TREE REMOVAL AND LIMB REMOVAL AND VEGETATION KIND OF MANAGEMENT OUT THERE IS OVER TIME, ALL THESE TREES GROW AND THEY GET MORE AND MORE DENSE AND THEN THE SUNLIGHT CAN'T GET TO THE GREENS, THE TEE BOXES, AND THAT DETERIORATES THE SURFACE AND PLAYABLE. SO WE'VE HAD A PROGRAM TO TRY TO REMOVE SOME OF THOSE LIMBS AND TREES AND KEEP THEM KEPT UP OUT THERE. IT'S VERY EXPENSIVE. IT'S A LARGE AREA WITH LOTS OF DIFFERENT TREES AND VEGETATION. SO WE'VE GOT A LOT OF FUNDING IN THAT FOR THAT AS WELL AS IMPROVING SOME OF THE TURF AT THE RANGE AND THE GREEN. SO WE HAVE SOME FUNDS AND THOSE ARE ALL PART OF YOUR GOLF FINANCIAL PLAN THAT YOU'VE SEEN. I DIDN'T MENTION THAT BEFORE, BUT ALL THESE CAPITAL COSTS ARE PLANNED FOR THAT AS WELL. YES, SIR. I WILL SAY THAT THAT IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT FOR A GOLF COURSE AS FAR AS TREE REMOVAL, BECAUSE YOU CAN LOSE THE GREEN IN HEARTBEAT AND THE GREENS A MILLION BUCKS. YEAH. SO THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT. WE STAY ON TOP OF THAT. THANK YOU. OK, UNLESS THERE ARE QUESTIONS ON THAT, I'M GOING TO MOVE ON. I DID TALK TO YOU PREVIOUSLY ABOUT THE 4A 5 YEAR PLAN. SO YOU CAN SEE HERE THE NEW INDUSTRIAL PARK SHOWN HERE. THIS IS THE 20 MILLION THAT I MENTIONED TO YOU. AGAIN, THERE'S NOT A SPECIFIC PROJECT, BUT JUST SHOWING SOME CAPACITY. AND THEREFORE, IF THE COUNCIL WERE TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO INVEST IN A NEW INDUSTRIAL PARK, HERE'S SOME MONEY THAT YOU WOULD HAVE FOR THAT. AND THEN WE SHOW THE CHISHOLM SUMMIT INFRASTRUCTURE TO BE SOLD OVER 23 AND 24. AGAIN, THAT PROJECT WILL NOT ALL BE BUILT IN ONE YEAR, SO YOU'LL HAVE SOME CAPACITY THAT YOU'LL NEED TO PUSH INTO THE NEXT YEAR. BUT 55 MILLION IN TOTAL FOR THE 4A FUND. THE WATER AND SEWER CIP PLAN. ERIC HAS PRESENTED THIS TO YOU IN DETAIL. OF COURSE, THE WATER AND SEWER MASTER PLANS DRIVE THE PROJECTS THAT YOU SEE IN THESE DOCUMENTS OF WHAT IMPROVEMENTS ARE NEEDED TO MAKE SURE ALL THOSE THINGS HAPPEN THAT WE ALL TAKE FOR GRANTED, OF JUST TURNING ON THE FAUCET WHEN THE WATER WORKS OR WHEN YOU DO THE OTHER AND WHERE IT GOES, YOU KNOW THAT IT'S ALL TAKEN CARE OF. SO THERE'S A LOT OF MONEY IN HERE, ABOUT $78 MILLION DOLLARS. IF THERE'S QUESTIONS, WE'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE OR GO THROUGH THEM. THEN I DID WANT TO SPEND A LITTLE BIT OF A FEW MINUTES ON THE ADDITIONAL CAPITAL PROJECTS AS WE HAD THE DISCUSSION WITH YOU BACK IN JUNE AND THEN JULY ABOUT THE TOD TIRZ PROJECTS. ONE OF THE THINGS THE COUNCIL WE HAD TALKED ABOUT POTENTIALLY, IF YOU DISSOLVE THE TIRZ OF WHAT WOULD YOU DO WITH THAT TAX RATE, YOU COULD LOWER THE TAX RATE OR YOU COULD DO MORE PROJECTS, $10.4 MILLION DOLLARS MORE IN PROJECTS OR SOME COMBINATION [02:00:04] OF THE TWO. THE COUNCIL HAD DIRECTED US TO TRY TO USE ALL OF THAT CAPACITY, THE 10.4 MILLION FOR ADDITIONAL PROJECTS. SO WE'VE PUT TOGETHER A LIST OF PROJECTS THAT WE WOULD PROPOSE TO BE FUNDED FOR THAT $10.4 MILLION DOLLARS PLUS SOME OF THE OTHER MONIES THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED WHICH WERE STREET IMPACT FEES, THE CASH FUNDING THAT WE HAD OUT OF THE $8 MILLION DOLLARS FOR THE CASH FUNDING FOR GENERAL FUND AND SOME ADDITIONAL DEBT CAPACITY THAT WAS THAT WAS GENERATED. SO THESE ARE THE PROJECTS THAT WE'VE LISTED HERE. THE FIRST IS FIRE STATION ONE IMPROVEMENTS. IT'S $2 MILLION DOLLARS. I THINK WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS. THERE'S SOME $45,000 THAT'S IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET TO DO SOME CONCEPTUAL ANALYSIS OF STATION ONE TO SEE HOW WE NEED TO EXPAND THAT FACILITY, WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE. THIS IS A PLANNING LEVEL NUMBER OF WHAT WE THINK THAT COST WOULD BE. UNTIL WE GET THAT WORK BACK FROM THE ARCHITECT I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THE NUMBER IS, BUT HOPEFULLY THIS IS A REASONABLE FIGURE TO UPDATE THAT FACILITY. IT'S QUITE CRAMPED QUARTERS THERE AT STATION ONE. THERE'S SOME CHALLENGES WITH THE DESIGN OF THAT AND SOME GROWTH THAT THEY'VE HAD THAT WE NEED TO TRY TO ADDRESS. AND SO THAT'S THE PROPOSAL HERE. AND WE'LL CERTAINLY COME BACK TO YOU WITH MORE DETAILS. YES, MA'AM. AT THE TIME, I THINK WE STILL HAD SOME VOLUNTEER PART OF OUR DEPARTMENT. SO I DON'T THINK WE WERE REALLY CONSIDERING HOW MUCH SLEEP SPACE THEY WERE GOING TO NEED VERSUS HOW MUCH OFFICE SPACE THEY WERE GOING TO NEED. SO I KNOW SOME OF THEM HAVE TO DOUBLE BUNK AND SLEEP ON COTS THAT BEHIND FOLD OUTS. SO AT LEAST I SAW THAT DURING THE COVID TIME. SO THAT'LL BE GOOD TO ADDRESS. THE BAYS ARE IN REALLY GOOD SHAPE. IT'S GOT A NICE SITE. I THINK WE JUST NEED SOME MORE PRETTY MUCH ON THE THE SLEEPING QUARTERS, THAT KIND OF AREA. MAYBE SOME BETTER PLANNING. SOME OF THE OFFICE SPACE UP ON THE FRONT END TOO HAS CHANGED A LITTLE BIT AND HAS SOME PROBABLY CAPACITY TO DO SOME DIFFERENT THINGS. AND SO ANYWAY, THIS IS SOME FUNDING TO TRY TO ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE. THE NEXT ONE WE HAD AND THIS IS A PLANNING LEVEL NUMBER ONLY, BUT THE CITY HALL RENOVATIONS OF $1.5 MILLION DOLLARS. SO ON THE NEXT MEETING ON AUGUST 15TH, WE'LL COME TO YOU AND GIVE YOU AT LEAST THREE OPTIONS TO CONSIDER OF HOW YOU WOULD WANT TO DO THIS. AS YOU KNOW, WE'RE BUILDING THE NEW OFFICE SPACE ACROSS ON ELLISON. WE'RE GOING TO BE TEARING DOWN THE OLD CITY HALL OR THE CITY HALL ANNEX RIGHT OVER HERE OFF OF ELLISON STREET. SO WITH THAT, WHEN THAT HAPPENS, THERE'S A VARIETY OF STAFF THAT WILL BE SHIFTING FROM HERE AND FROM THE OLD FACILITY TO THE NEW ONE, AND THEN SOME THAT WILL BE COMING BACK OVER HERE TO THIS BUILDING. AND WHEN WE DO THAT, WE NEED TO DO SOME RENOVATIONS TO PREPARE FOR THAT. AND COST OF CONSTRUCTION IS VERY EXPENSIVE. SO WE'LL GIVE YOU SOME LESS EXPENSIVE OPTIONS AND SOME MORE. BUT WE PLAN FOR WE PUT SOME FUNDING IN THE CAPITAL PROGRAM JUST FOR THIS PURPOSE. AGAIN, YOU'LL HAVE THOSE OPTIONS TO TELL US WHICH ONE YOU WANT TO DO. 1.5 BEING THE HIGHEST. I'M SORRY. 1.5 BEING OUR HIGHEST. NO, UNFORTUNATELY, IT'S NOT. THE HIGHEST IS OVER $6 MILLION DOLLARS. IS THAT RIGHT? WHICH WE WOULD NOT RECOMMEND TO YOU. BUT IF YOU WERE GOING TO JUST TOTALLY GET THE BUILDING AND START OVER, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT THAT WOULD BE. BUT IT'S EXPENSIVE. I THINK ONE OF THE QUESTIONS IS GOING TO BE HOW LONG DO WE EXPECT TO BE IN THIS FACILITY? I KNOW WE'VE KIND OF TALKED ABOUT HAVING, YOU KNOW, A RELOCATION OF CITY HALL AT SOME POINT. I THINK OUR BEST GUESS IS WE'RE PROBABLY HERE 7 TO 10 YEARS, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND SO THAT'S GOING TO BE KIND OF A QUESTION OF HOW MUCH DO YOU WANT TO SPEND? AND NONE OF IT, UNFORTUNATELY, NONE OF IT'S CHEAP. THE CHEAPEST ONE IS ABOUT A MILLION IS THE ESTIMATE. SO WE'RE TRYING TO GIVE YOU SOMETHING IN THE MIDDLE. I DID WANT TO ALSO COVER A COUPLE OF OTHER PROJECTS HERE. SO THE ALSBURY WIDENING THIS IS IF YOU KNOW THE AREA BETWEEN CANDLER AND HULEN, THERE IS A LANE IN EACH DIRECTION. WE'VE PROGRAMED IN $3.8 MILLION DPLLARS TO WIDEN THAT TO TWO LANES IN EACH DIRECTION, WHICH WOULD THEN CONNECT DOWN INTO THE BRIDGE THAT WE HAVE THE HULEN AND ALSBURY BRIDGE AND EVENTUALLY CONNECTING ALL THE WAY OUT TO LAKEWOOD. SO THIS WOULD BE AN IMPORTANT CONNECTION. SO WE'VE INCLUDED SOME FUNDS FOR THAT. WE'VE ALSO ALLOCATED ADDITIONAL DOLLARS FOR THE 10 20 RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION AND DESIGN COSTS. THERE'S $2.5 MILLION DOLLARS IN THE GEO BOND PROGRAM THAT WAS APPROVED BY VOTERS. YOU'RE GOING TO NEED MORE FUNDING TO GET ALL THE RIGHT OF WAY AND FINISH ALL OF THAT WORK. SO SOME ADDITIONAL DOLLARS THAT ARE THERE. WE ALSO TALKED WITH THE COUNCIL ABOUT. I'M SORRY, MAYOR, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING? IS THE LAKEWOOD CONNECTION DOES THAT TAKE PRESSURE OFF OF 174? ULTIMATELY, YES. IF YOU HAVE ABILITY TO GET UP INTO LAKEWOOD AND THEN GET ALL THE WAY ONTO 19 [INAUDIBLE] AND TRAIL YES SIR, THAT WOULD BE LESS TRAFFIC POTENTIALLY THAT WOULD BE GOING TO I-35. PART OF THE CONCEPT. AND THEN YOU WOULD ALSO HAVE THE ABILITY TO GO ON ALSBURY THAT DIRECTION BACK OVER THERE TO LAKEWOOD INSTEAD OF GOING BACK DOWN TO THAT CORRIDOR, SAY FOR LIKE [02:05:03] THE MOUNTAIN VALLEY AND THE LAKEWOOD AREA, ANYONE GOING STRAIGHT TO FORT WORTH, YOU CAN IDEALLY SHOOT OVER TO 1902 AND GET ON 121 AND BE THERE MUCH FASTER THAN SITTING THROUGH 23 STOPLIGHTS. YES, MA'AM. THERE'S A LOT OF THEM. SO THE OTHER ONE I WAS GOING TO MENTION TO YOU WAS HULEN AND THE BOND PROGRAM THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE VOTERS. HULEN WAS GOING TO BE WIDENED AND THE RIGHT OF WAY WAS GOING TO BE REQUIRED FOR ITS ULTIMATE BUILDOUT. BUT ONLY TWO LANES WERE GOING TO BE CONSTRUCTED, AND THE COST WAS ONLY FOR TWO LANES IN THE BOND PROGRAM, ONE IN EACH DIRECTION. ALTHOUGH IT WOULD HAVE ALL THE CURB AND GUTTER AND THE RIGHT OF WAY, THERE WOULD BE A LOT IN THE MIDDLE. THIS PROJECT HERE WOULD TAKE THAT TO FOUR LANES AND THAT'S IN 26 $3.6 MILLION DOLLARS. SO ADDS AN EXTRA LANE IN EACH DIRECTION. AND I BELIEVE THAT'S FROM 174 ALL THE WAY TO CANDLER. NOT TO CANDLER, BUT UP TO. YES, IT IS TO CANDLER, ISN'T IT? IS THAT RIGHT? GREEN RIDGE. THANK YOU. SO IS THAT AN ADDITIONAL 3.6 ON TOP OF WHAT WE ALREADY PLANNED IN THE GEO BOND? YES, MA'AM. AND THAT WOULD PUT THAT PROJECT ANYWHERE FROM AROUND $11 MILLION DOLLARS, SOMETHING LIKE THAT TOTAL. WE WOULD DO THAT RIGHT FROM THE BEGINNING? AND AS WE DISCUSSED ALREADY, IN THE EXPENSE OF WIDENING ALSBURY, WE REALLY DON'T WANT TO MAKE THAT MISTAKE AGAIN. WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO GO BACK. SO THAT SHOULD BE A FOUR LANE RIGHT OFF THE BAT. YEAH. LET ME JUMP IN ON SOME OF THIS. WE'RE FINDING OUT AND CONNIE AND BRYAN ALREADY KNEW THIS. WHEN WE DO SOME OF OUR OWN DESIGN WORK AND STUFF LIKE THAT, IT REALLY GETS THE ATTENTION OF COG AND OTHER RTC AND THEY KIND OF [INAUDIBLE]. SO WE'RE STARTING TO SEE THE RESULTS OF THAT RIGHT NOW SO WE CAN GET SOME OF THESE JOBS MOVED UP A LITTLE BIT, BY BECAUSE OF SOME OF THE STUFF WE'RE DOING HERE, SO, YOU KNOW, THIS IS ALL GOOD THINGS ARE REALLY GETTING WE'RE GETTING ATTENTION AND THAT'S YEAH. SO I APPRECIATE IT. JUST LAST WEEK I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH A COUNCIL MEMBER FROM JOSHUA WHO SAID OK THE LIGHT AT MOUNTAIN VALLEY BACKS UP. AND I HAD THE JOY OF SITTING IN IT YESTERDAY AFTER PICKING UP MY SON FROM A CAMP IN JOSHUA. AND I MEAN THE IT TAKES SEVERAL LIGHT CYCLES TO GET THROUGH THERE AND THAT WASN'T EVEN RUSH HOUR GETTING YOU KNOW ONCE SCHOOL BEGINS AND AFTER SCHOOL PICKUP WITH AN ELEMENTARY BEING RIGHT THERE SO I MEAN ANYTHING I AGREE THAT IF WE'RE SHOWING WE'RE GOING TO GIVE ALTERNATE ROUTES AND ALLEVIATE SOME OF THAT 174 PRESSURE. YEAH. MAYOR CAIN FROM CLEBURNE WAS TALKING ABOUT THAT ALSO THIS IS ALL GOOD FOR NOT JUST BURLESON, BUT IT'S ALL THE WAY THROUGH JOHNSON COUNTY. SO. I HOPE THE COMBINATION OF THESE ADDITIONAL ROADWAYS WITH THE ITS SYSTEM THAT ERIC'S WORKING ON WILL BE SOME DRAMATIC IMPROVEMENTS IN TRAFFIC. ERIC, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE? I JUST WANTED TO COMMENT. SO THE 3.6 MILLION YOU MENTIONED FOR THE PROJECT, IT IS THE REASON IT'S SCHEDULED IN 26 IS THAT'S THE CURRENT GEO BOND SCHEDULE HAS HULEN IN 26. SO WHEN WE DO THAT EXPANSION YOU'LL SEE THE INTERSECTION AT HULEN AND WILSHIRE. THOSE WERE SEPARATE PROJECTS. THEN WE HAD THE EXPANSION. THEY'RE ALL GOING TO BE COMBINED INTO ONE PROJECT AND THE WATER AND WASTEWATER PROJECT WE HAVE A 16 INCH WATER LINE THAT NEEDS TO BE EXTENDED TO THE HULEN AND GROUND STORAGE TANKS, ALL THAT'S COMBINED INTO ONE PROJECT BUILT IN ONE YEAR. SO WE'LL GO THROUGH, PUT THE NEW WATER LINE IN, BUILD THE ROAD, BUILD THE INTERSECTION, GO IN AND GET IN AND GET OUT. AND THEN WE'LL HAVE TO BE BACK FOR SOME TIME FOR THAT SECTION. AND SO IT'S PROGRAMED ALL IN THERE. WE'RE TRYING TO GET EVERYTHING DONE THAT WE NEED DONE IN THAT AREA SO WE DON'T HAVE TO GO BACK. OKAY. A COUPLE OTHER, I WON'T GO THROUGH ALL OF THESE UNLESS YOU HAVE QUESTIONS. BUT I DID WANT TO MENTION TO YOU A COUPLE OF OTHER MAJOR PROJECTS, VILLAGE CREEK PARKWAY EXPANSION. THIS IS A PROJECT THAT WE FUNDED IN 27, ABOUT $3.5 MILLION DOLLARS. THIS WOULD BE OUR MATCH. AND SO WE'RE LEVERAGING SOME COUNTY FUNDS AS WELL TO GET THAT PROJECT. SO THAT WOULD BE A GOOD PROJECT TO INCLUDE. AND ONE OF THE PROJECTS THAT THE BOND COMMITTEE HAD LOOKED AT, I KNOW COUNCIL HAD THOUGHT ABOUT TOO, WAS THE WICKER HILL PROJECT, AND WE WEREN'T ABLE TO FUND THAT IN THE ORIGINAL BOND PROGRAM THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE VOTERS. BUT WE'VE INCLUDED THAT PROJECT IN THIS ADDITIONAL FUNDING ON MY THING AGAIN HERE. BUT THE $4.9 MILLION DOLLARS OF THAT PROJECT AND THIS PLAN IS THERE AS WELL AS SOME ADDITIONAL PAVEMENT REHABILITATION AND EXTENDING VISTAS ALL THE WAY OUT TO 714. OKAY. I'M NOT SURE THAT THAT WICKER HILL PROJECT IS REALLY RINGING ANY BELLS WITH ME? IS IT ONE WHERE WE TALKED ABOUT HAVING A LIGHT OR A DEDICATED TURN? I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT I KNOW IT ALMOST LIKE COMES OUT OF NOWHERE. LIKE THERE WAS AN IRRIGATION PLACE NEXT TO IT. I FORGOT WHAT THAT'S BEEN REPURPOSED FOR, BUT WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE AND? I'LL ASK ERIC TO DETAIL THE PROJECT. SURE. 5 MILLION DOLLARS IS A LOT OF MONEY. YEAH. SO THIS IS WICKER HILL ON THE NORTHWEST SIDE OF 174. [02:10:02] SO AS YOU KNOW, BEAR RIDGE IS COMING IN ON THE SOUTHEAST SIDE. THEY'RE GOING TO BE REDOING THAT INTERSECTION. CURRENTLY, IT'S A TWO LANE ASPHALT ROAD. THIS WILL BE COMPLETE RECONSTRUCTION TO A CONCRETE ROAD THAT WILL GO THROUGH AND THEN TURN ONTO GREEN RIDGE. GREEN RIDGE WILL GO IN THE BACK END OF PANCHASARP FARMS, THAT WHOLE AREA. OK. SO OBVIOUSLY THERE WAS AN INTENDED I THINK JOSHUA ISD HAD INTENDED TO BUILD A SCHOOL BACK THERE, BUT THAT DEVELOPMENT IS CONTINUING TO GROW. AND SO THE DEVELOPER IS REDOING GREEN RIDGE TO A POINT AND THEY'RE GOING TO STOP AND THEN IT'S GOING TO TRANSITION DOWN TO A TWO LANE ASPHALT ROAD. AND SO THIS PROJECT WILL ALLOW US TO REBUILD WICKER HILL AND GREEN RIDGE, TYING INTO THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT AND PROVIDE ANOTHER ACCESS POINT. SO THE FOLKS DON'T THEY TEND TO AVOID GOING DOWN WICKER HILL THAT WAY. SO THEY GO ALL THE WAY DOWN TO LAKEWOOD AND THEN COME BACK IN. SO AGAIN, WE'RE SHORTENING THAT DRIVE FOR THEM. THEY CAN GET INTO THE SUBDIVISION. IT'S ANOTHER ACCESS POINT. IF THE DEVELOPER WAS PLANNING ON ASPHALT TWO LANE ARE WE ABLE TO WORK WITH HIM MORE? HE'S DOING CONCRETE TWO LANE, SO IT'LL BE A CONCRETE TWO LANE ROAD THAT HE'S BUILDING TO THE END OF HIS DEVELOPMENT AND THEN IT WOULD TRANSITION BACK TO AN ASPHALT. SO THIS PROJECT WILL ALLOW US TO CONTINUE THAT CONCRETE ROADWAY AND IMPROVE THAT CORRIDOR . COOL. I KNOW YOU HAVE TO HAVE LIKE SUPER SITE HERE. BUT IS THIS GREEN RIDGE HERE TAMARA YOUR MIC. TAMARA. OH OKAY. I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE GREEN RIDGE IS. THERE'S WICKER HILL. THERE'S IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? IF WE NEED TO.THIS IS GREEN RIDGE. SO THIS IS GOING TO TURN AND CONTINUE ON HERE. I GOT IT. WE GO AHEAD AND JUST TRANSITION TO. IF WE CAN GO TO GOOGLE MAPS. AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS LOOKING AT WAS GOOGLE MAPS. I WAS CONFUSED AS WE'RE DOING THAT. I WOULD JUST TELL YOU FOR GREEN RIDGE TOO IS WE ALL KNOW WHERE THAT IS GOING BACK BY HEALING. BUT THIS WOULD EVENTUALLY GO ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THIS AREA AND IT'S ANOTHER ACCESS POINT HELPS RELIEVE SOME OF THAT CONGESTION ON 174. YES, SIR, IT WOULD BE. THAT'S THE IDEA. HERE'S WICKER HILL. THIS IS GREEN RIDGE. AND SO GREEN RIDGE IS INTENDED TO TIE IN HERE. SO IS THIS AREA AS DEVELOPED, THE DEVELOPERS BUILDING AND STARTING TO BUILD OUT THIS AREA? AS WE ALL KNOW, THIS IS BEING DEVELOPED AND IS PLANNING ON BEING DEVELOPED IN THE FUTURE. THEY WILL BUILD THIS OUT. THEY ARE REQUIRED TO EXTEND THIS AND TIE IN TO THIS POINT. BUT THEN FROM HERE DOWN, THIS WOULD STAY TWO LANE ASPHALT COUNTY ROAD. THIS IS GOING TO BE REBUILT. THAT'S WHY IT'S A $5 MILLION PROJECT. THIS IS GOING TO BE REBUILT AS A CONCRETE ROADWAY TIE INTO WHERE THEY'RE LEAVING OFF. SO WHEN YOU SHOOT GREEN OVER STRAIGHT ACROSS AND YOU GOT. RIGHT THERE, IS THAT ALREADY A THAT'S LAKEWOOD. OH OKAY. SO THIS IS LAKEWOOD IN GREEN RIDGE. SO THIS IS ALREADY BUILT. WE ALREADY KNOW THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE DEVELOPING IT. SO THEY BUILT OUT THIS INTERSECTION. THIS WILL CONTINUE THROUGH AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT. THIS WILL ACTUALLY BE CONVERTED INTO A TRAFFIC SIGNAL BECAUSE IT WILL BE FOUR WAY AND THE TRAFFIC VOLUMES WILL DICTATE THE NEED FOR A TRAFFIC SIGNAL AT THAT LOCATION. BUT GREEN RIDGE WILL CONTINUE THROUGH. THE DEVELOPER IS GOING TO BE STOPPING AROUND HERE BECAUSE THEIR DEVELOPMENT DOESN'T REQUIRE THIS IMPROVEMENT. WE'LL BE DOING THIS IMPROVEMENT HERE. THAT'S WHAT THE PROJECT ZOOM OUT TO AND JUST SHOW EVENTUALLY WHERE THAT GREEN RIDGE WILL GO ALL THE WAY DOWN ACROSS. SO YOU CAN YOU CAN MAYBE JUST GO TO THE RIGHT A LITTLE BIT. YEAH, I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT THAT AS WELL. SO LONG TERM, LONG TERM VIEWING WILL BE COMING ALL THE WAY THROUGH. SO HERE'S GREEN RIDGE UP HERE. SO THE INTENT IS THAT GREEN RIDGE WILL BE A MAJOR CORRIDOR, IT'LL BE AN ARTERIAL ROADWAY THROUGH, AND I'LL CONNECT ALL THE WAY THROUGH. SO LAKEWOOD WOULD BE CONNECTED ALL THE WAY THROUGH TO WICKER HILL, EVENTUALLY, ALL THE WAY THROUGH TO HOUSTON. THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE BUILDING THAT BRIDGE RIGHT NOW OR THE CONNECTIVITY TO 174 ON GREEN RIDGE UP THERE. OH, DRIVE. CUMMINS DRIVE. THIS IS CUMMINS DRIVE. THIS IS FINISHING UP THIS. OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU. I JUST NEEDED CLARIFICATION ON THAT TOO, BECAUSE SOME OF THAT STUFF WAY OUT THERE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT ALL IS. I GOT SAY I WANT TO SAY SOMETHING ELSE. THERE WAS A BRIDGE OUT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF TOWN THAT STOPPED AND DID NOTHING. AND I BROUGHT IT TO BRYAN'S ATTENTION, AND BRYAN PERSUADED THEM TO GET THAT DONE VERY NICELY. BUT THEY'RE PUTTING THEY HAD TO MOVE A POLL AND ALL THAT OTHER STUFF. BUT THAT WAS THE CAUSE OF BRYAN. A COUPLE OF IN FACT, HE CALLED ONE TIME. THEY GOT JUMPED ON IT, PUT THE CULVERTS IN AND THEY LEFT AGAIN. SO BRYAN GAVE HIM ANOTHER CALL. SO WE'VE BEEN TRYING ON THAT ONE. YEAH, YOU DID GOOD. THANK YOU. WE'RE FIXING TO HAVE THAT INTERSECTION DONE. SO THAT'S IT. ON THE OTHER PROJECTS, AGAIN, THAT TAKES THAT FULL $10.4 MILLION OUT OF THE TOD TIRZ AND INVEST THAT. IF YOU THINK ABOUT THAT AREA AND THE INVESTMENTS THERE, THE ALSBURY EXPANSION BETWEEN KEELER AND HEWLETT AND THEN THE HEWLETT PROJECT, THAT'S ABOUT [02:15:07] $10 MILLION OF PROJECT RIGHT THERE IN THOSE TWO. WE ALSO HAVE THAT BRIDGE IS BEING CONSTRUCTED, WHICH IS ABOUT $6.5 MILLION ALSO NEAR THAT AREA. SO ALL THAT AREAS IS MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF IMPROVEMENT ARE PROPOSED IN THIS FIVE YEAR PROGRAM. ANY QUESTIONS WITHOUT. ALL RIGHT. SO YOU TAKE ALL OF THAT, YOU PUT IT ALL TOGETHER, AND IT'S SOME VERY LARGE NUMBERS FOR THAT CAPITAL PROGRAM THAT I MENTIONED TO YOU, $269 MILLION OVER FIVE YEARS. YOU CAN SEE THE BOND ISSUES THAT ARE PLANNED HERE DOWN HERE IN THE SPOT. A LARGE PORTION OF THIS IS 4A THAT YOU HAVE A NUMBER 35 MILLION OF THAT IS GOING TO BE FOR LIQUID BOULEVARD THAT'S GOING TO BE CONSTRUCTED. BUT THIS IS THE PLAN FOR ALL OF THESE PROJECTS AT THIS TIME. OK. WE ARE IN THE HOMESTRETCH NOW. I KEEP SAYING THAT SUMMARY INFORMATION. WE'RE REALLY THERE NOW. WE ONE OF THE THINGS WE LIKE TO SHOW IS AVERAGE RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMERS AND KIND OF THAT MONTHLY IMPACT FOR ALL THE TAXES, WATER, WASTEWATER AND SOLID WASTE THAT WE PAY. AND SOMETIMES WE ALWAYS FOCUS ON THE PROPERTY TAXES. IT'S CLEARLY AN IMPORTANT ELEMENT OF WHAT WE DO. BUT THERE ARE OTHER FEES THAT THE CITY CHARGES EVERY MONTH TO OUR RESIDENTS. AND WE'D LIKE TO SHOW YOU THAT COMBINED IMPACT. SO CURRENTLY, THE AVERAGE CUSTOMER PAYS ABOUT $245 A MONTH IN FEES TO THE CITY. SO WATER, WASTEWATER, SOLID WASTE AND OF COURSE, THE PROPERTY TAX BILL. WITH THIS PROPOSED BUDGET, THE PROPERTY TAX PORTION OF THE BILL IS GOING UP OR WE'RE PROPOSING IT TO GO UP $3.66 PER MONTH, WHICH IS ABOUT A 2.8% INCREASE. BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT IN CONTEXT OF THE OTHER FEES THAT ARE CHARGED, IT'S ABOUT A 1.5% INCREASE IN OVERALL MONTHLY FEES THAT WE'RE COLLECTING FROM OUR RESIDENTS, WHICH WE BELIEVE IS A REASONABLE AMOUNT. OF COURSE, ANY DOLLAR THAT WE COLLECT IS SIGNIFICANT, BUT AT 1.5%, WE BELIEVE IS VERY REASONABLE. AND THE OTHER THING I WOULD SAY IS, AS YOU KNOW, INFLATION AND OUR COST ARE GOING UP MUCH HIGHER THAN THIS THAT WE'VE HAD TO ABSORB. AND OUR OWN FUEL PRICES, CONSTRUCTION PRICES THAT WE'RE ABSORBING, JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE IS IN THE MARKETPLACE. THIS INCREASE IS STRICTLY FOR HOMEOWNERS. RENTERS WOULD, OF COURSE, PAY MORE BECAUSE THEY DON'T GET THE LUXURY OF THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION. THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. SOME OF THE FTES. I WANT TO PROVIDE YOU A SUMMARY WITH THIS. I KNOW IT'S PROBABLY A LITTLE HARD TO READ ON THE SCREEN, BUT AS YOU LOOK AT, THERE ARE A LOT OF POSITIONS THAT WE'RE PROPOSING IN THIS BUDGET, 27 AND HALF NEW POSITIONS. 16 OF THOSE ARE RELATED TO PUBLIC SAFETY, AS I SAID. SO NINE OF THAT IS RELATED TO THE EMS FUNCTION THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, SEVEN OR IN PD, THAT'S THE THREE SROS, THE TWO LIEUTENANTS AND THE OTHER SUPPORT POSITIONS THAT WE HAD, SIX ARE RELATED TO THE CAPITAL PROGRAM. SO HAVING A LARGE CAPITAL PROGRAM LIKE WE'RE PROPOSING FOR WATER AND SEWER AND OUR STREETS REQUIRES ADDITIONAL OVERSIGHT AND HAVE SIX EMPLOYEES DEDICATED TO THAT. AND THEN WE HAVE SOME OTHER SUPPORT LEVEL POSITIONS THAT WE'VE INCLUDED IN HERE. AS FOR THE CUSTOMER SERVICE DATA MANAGER, A PURCHASING AGENT, WHICH IS ALSO THE CUSTOMER SERVICE DATA MANAGER, IS RELATED TO THE 311 PROGRAM. THE PURCHASING AGENT IS RELATED TO JUST ADDITIONAL OVERSIGHT THAT WE BELIEVE WE NEED. WE CURRENTLY HAVE ONLY ONE PERSON IN THE CITY ASSIGNED TO THAT FUNCTION. AND AS YOU START HAVING A COUPLE OF HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF PROJECTS AND CONSTRUCTION GOING THROUGH, WE NEED ADDITIONAL OVERSIGHT, WE BELIEVE, FOR SOME OF THOSE ACTIVITIES. WE HAVE A YOUTH LIBRARIAN, THE FLEET TECHNICIAN THAT WE'VE TALKED TO YOU ABOUT, ALSO AN INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY SYSTEMS ANALYST. THIS IS RELATED TO OUR NEW ERP SYSTEM AND SOME OF THE OTHER ACTIVITIES THAT WE HAVE. SO IN TOTAL, ABOUT 5.5 POSITIONS RELATED TO WHAT WE WOULD CALL SUPPORT. THE REST ARE RELATED TO PUBLIC SAFETY AND OUR CAPITAL PROGRAM. CAN I JUST ASK ABOUT THE THREE COMMUNICATIONS SPECIALISTS? SURE. ARE THOSE DISPATCHERS? THEY ARE DISPATCHERS? YES, MA'AM. AND SO I WAS CURIOUS WHY IT FELL UNDER THE EMS, THOUGH. I DON'T BECAUSE IT'S BECAUSE IT'S RELATED TO THE EMERGENCY MEDICAL DISPATCH PROGRAM. THE EMT PROGRAM THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IS CURRENTLY WE DON'T PROVIDE THAT SERVICE THAT'S PROVIDED BY MEDSTAR WITH US TAKING ON THE EMS FUNCTION. THEN WE WILL PROVIDE THAT MEDICAL DISPATCH AND THAT'S WHAT THESE EMPLOYEES WILL BE. SO WILL THEY BE THE ONLY ONES TRAINED FOR THE M.D.? HOW WILL THAT WORK? NO, THEY WILL NOT HAVE PAUL COME UP AND ADDRESS THAT. I KNOW WE NEED MORE. WE'LL NEED IS IT JUST IN GENERAL TO BRING ON MORE DISPATCHERS? BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO NEED IT. BUT THEY'RE ALL GOING TO BE TRAINED ON THE THE MEDICAL SIDE OF THIS CORRECT ADDRESS THOSE POINTS. EVERYONE WILL BE CROSS-TRAINED AND TRAINED THE SAME. [02:20:02] SO WE'LL BENEFIT FROM THIS FOR POLICE, JUST FOR REGULAR CALL TAKING AND EVERYTHING. BUT EVERYONE IS GOING TO BE TRAINED ON EMERGENCY MEDICAL DISPATCH. AND THOSE ARE COSTS THAT WE HAD PLANNED FOR AND SHOWN TO THE COUNCIL BEFORE. BUT YES, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION I WAS JUST LOOKING FOR. BUT IT MAKES SENSE WHY IT'S THERE. SURE. WHEN DOES THE MEDICAL DIRECTOR GET INCLUDED IN THESE NUMBERS? SO THE MEDICAL DIRECTOR, WE'RE OUT FOR RFQ ON THAT RIGHT NOW. WE EXPECT I THINK IT MAY CLOSE THIS WEEK, IF I REMEMBER. RIGHT. SO IT CLOSES. WE'LL BE BRINGING THAT FORWARD TO YOU VERY QUICKLY. WE HAD BUDGETED PLANNED ON $50,000. WE HAVE REASON TO BELIEVE THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE NECESSARY, THAT WE CAN ABSORB THAT WITH OUR EXISTING BUDGET. WE'LL SEE. ALL RIGHT. SO THAT'S THE POSITIONS. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE LIKE TO DO IS THIS IS AN EFFICIENCY MEASURE THAT WE LIKE TO LOOK AT IS HOW MANY EMPLOYEES DO WE HAVE PER 1000 OF POPULATION? WHAT'S IT TAKE BASICALLY TO RUN THE CITY? AND HOW DO WE COMPARE AGAINST A LOT OF OTHER CITIES AROUND THE METROPLEX? AND YOU'LL SEE WE'RE PRETTY MUCH RIGHT DOWN IN THE MIDDLE, EVEN WITH ALL OF THESE POSITIONS THAT WE'RE ADDING. SO I'VE SHOWN YOU THE PUBLIC SAFETY PIECES, BUT THESE ARE ALL OF OUR OTHER POSITIONS THAT WE HAVE. YOU PROBABLY DON'T WANT TO BE ON EITHER EXTREME OF A GRAPH LIKE THIS, BUT WE'RE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT AND PROVIDING GOOD SERVICES AT AN EFFECTIVE COST. AND I THINK I THINK WE'RE IN A GOOD POSITION HERE. SO IF YOU LOOK AT IT, BY FUND ONE LAST KIND OF SUMMARY CHART THAT WE HAVE. AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE THE $204 MILLION COST THAT'S HERE. IT'S A SIZABLE BUDGET THAT WE HAVE FOR JUST FY 23. A LARGE PORTION OF WHAT WE'RE ADDING HERE IS RELATED TO CAPITAL PROJECTS AND SOME OF THE OTHER FUNDS THAT WE HAVEN'T HAD IN THE PAST. THAT'S DRIVING A LOT OF THE INCREASE THAT YOU'RE SEEING. NEXT STEPS. SO TODAY WE'LL HAVE OBVIOUSLY ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION ON THE BUDGET THAT YOU'D LIKE TO HAVE. THE BUDGET NOW TRANSITIONS FROM BEING THE CITY MANAGER'S RECOMMENDED BUDGET TO BEING THE COUNCIL'S BUDGET. ANY CHANGES THAT YOU WANT. YOU HAVE COMPLETE DISCRETION AND CONTROL OVER CHANGING THOSE NUMBERS OR ANY OF THE PROGRAMS THAT ARE AT YOUR DISCRETION. YOU WILL BE ASKED TO VOTE ON A TAX RATE, A PLAN, TAX RATE. AND THE REASON FOR THAT TODAY, WE'LL ASK YOU TO DO THAT. AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS THAT GOES IN ALL OF THE NOTICES THAT GO OUT TO THE PUBLIC. SO THAT'LL BE ON YOUR AGENDA. AND THEN ON THE SIXTH, SEPTEMBER 6TH, YOU'LL HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE BUDGET, A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE TAX RATE, AND THEN YOU'LL BE ASKED TO MAKE APPROVE A FIRST READING OF THE BUDGET AND TAX ORDINANCE. I'VE MENTIONED THIS TO YOU IN THE PAST, BUT THERE ARE SOME VERY SPECIFIC LANGUAGE THAT THE TAX CODE REQUIRES THAT YOU MAKE IN YOUR MOTIONS ABOUT HOW TO APPROVE THESE BUDGETS. SO IF THERE IS AN INCREASE IN REVENUE, AS WE TALKED ABOUT WITH COUNCILMEMBER STANFORD EARLIER, WHICH WE ARE PROPOSING, THAT WILL BE AN INCREASE IN TAXES AND ONE OF YOU WILL HAVE TO MOVE TO RAISE THE BUDGET AND INCREASE TAXES BY A CERTAIN I THINK DAN'S NOT HERE. SO AND HE SAID PREVIOUSLY THAT HE WOULD VOLUNTEER FOR THAT MOTION. BUT BUT THAT'S I WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S CLEAR. THERE'S NO SURPRISES ON THIS. ON THE SIXTH, THAT WOULD BE THE MOTION THAT WOULD BE NEEDED FOR THIS. AND THEN ON THE 12TH WOULD BE THE FINAL READING OF THE BUDGET. SO A LOT OF TIME THAT WE SPENT IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS, IT'S ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE LIKE TO SPEND A LOT OF TIME WITH YOU BEFORE YOU GET TO THIS POINT, BECAUSE FROM NOW UNTIL THEN, YOU REALLY YOU'VE GOT ABOUT 30 DAYS OR SO BEFORE YOU'LL BE ASKED TO APPROVE THE BUDGET. SO THAT'S WHY WE LIKE TO INVEST THAT TIME. THAT'S THE END OF MY FORMAL PRESENTATION. AGAIN, I JUST I WANT TO SAY WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND ENERGY TO THIS. YOU'VE SPENT MONTHS ON THIS LOOKING AT ALL THESE THINGS. AND THIS IS KIND OF HOW IT ALL COMES TOGETHER. AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE AND WORK ON THIS AS WE BRING IT FORWARD. WE'RE HERE AS STAFF TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE TO TALK ABOUT, ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU HAVE ON THE BUDGET AND ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE. SO, MAYOR, THAT'S THE END OF MY PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. WE'RE READY TO MOVE ON. I'D LIKE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION. MAYOR, TAMARA MENTIONED THAT SHE HAD SOME QUESTIONS, BUT SHE HAD TO STEP OUT FOR A LITTLE BIT. SO I FULLY APPRECIATE ALL THE HARD WORK YOU GUYS HAVE PUT IN ON THIS. I MEAN, THERE'S A IT'S A VERY CHALLENGING SITUATION IN OUR CITIES IN THE COST OF THINGS ARE OBVIOUSLY GOING UP. EVERYTHING IS MORE EXPENSIVE AND WE HAVE TO FIND WAYS TO COVER THAT. SO I UNDERSTAND THE CONCEPT OF, OF WHERE YOU CAME UP WITH THE TAX RATE. AND I APPRECIATE THAT. YOU KNOW, AND GOING INTO THIS PAST SUMMER, I ASKED THE CITY STAFF TO PUT TOGETHER SOME RESOURCES FOR OUR CITIZENS BECAUSE I KNEW SEVERAL OF OUR CITIZENS ARE SUFFERING FINANCIALLY. IT'S A BAD TIME FOR NOT ONLY US, BUT OUR CITIZENS. AND I THINK WE HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND WHY WE'RE HERE, AND THAT IS FOR OUR CITIZENS. WHEN I LOOK AT THE SITUATION WITH OUR CITIZENS RIGHT NOW, THE AVERAGE COST OF LIVING INCREASE OVER THIS PAST YEAR, I'VE BEEN TOLD, IS AS MUCH AS $500 EXTRA. [02:25:09] A FAMILY IS HAVING TO COME UP WITH MONEY. I SEE THE LINES THAT THE FOOD BANKS ARE GETTING LONGER AND LONGER. THERE'S REPORTS THAT PEOPLE ARE MAXING OUT THEIR CREDIT CARDS, JUST TRYING TO KEEP FOOD ON THE TABLE. SO AS AS A COUNCIL MEMBER, I KNOW, I KNOW WE WOULD HAVE TO TIGHTEN OUR BELT, BUT I ALSO KNOW OUR CITIZENS HAVE ALREADY TIGHTEN THEIR BELT. I WOULD NOT FEEL COMFORTABLE GOING TO THE CITIZENS THAT ARE SITTING IN THAT FOOD BANK LINE AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW THEY'RE GOING TO FEED THEIR FAMILY WITH MY HANDOUT, TELLING THEM I WANT THEM TO PAY MORE. I CAN'T SUPPORT THAT. FOR ME PERSONALLY, I SUPPORT THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE. I KNOW THAT WOULD CREATE SOME UNIQUE CHALLENGES, BUT I THINK OUR CITIZENS ARE ALREADY GOING TO THAT UNIQUE CHALLENGE. AND I JUST CAN'T PUT MY HAND OUT FOR THEM. I JUST CAN'T TAKE MORE OUT OF THEIR POCKET KNOWING THAT THEY MAY NOT EVEN KNOW HOW THEY'RE GOING TO PROVIDE FOR THEIR FAMILY. BRYAN, THE DIRECTORS, I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS. QUITE FRANKLY, I THINK THAT IT REALLY WORKED FOR ME ONCE I GOT THE BOOK AND STUDIED LIKE EVERYTHING OUTSIDE OF THESE SLIDES. AND SO I WANT TO SAY THAT REALLY HELPED ME WITH SOME CLARITY AND IT ALSO CREATED SOME AHA MOMENTS FROM WHEN WE MET JUST THE OTHER DAY, WHICH I KNOW. SO I'M GOING TO KIND OF CONTRADICT A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT, AND I WASN'T REALLY SURE WHERE I STOOD THE OTHER DAY MYSELF. FIRST OF ALL, WHAT I SEE OVERALL, YOU PUT TOGETHER A LOT OF STUFF REGARDING THE COST CONTAINMENT THAT YOU'VE DONE, WHICH I THINK IS PHENOMENAL. AND THE LONG TERM SUSTAINABILITY OF OUR FUNDS ARE IN A VERY GOOD POSITION. I TOOK A LOT OF NOTES BECAUSE I WAS WRITING ALL OF THIS DOWN AND I MEAN, I'VE GOT TONS OF NUMBERS AND PROPERTY TAXES UP. I MEAN, SORRY. SALES TAX IS UP. OBVIOUSLY, WE HAVE SO MUCH NEW BUILD GOING ON AND GROWTH, AS COUNCIL JOHNSON WAS SAYING, THAT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT'S ENDING ANY TIME SOON. WE SAVED MONEY ON SALARIES. WE SAVED MONEY IN OVERTIME WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. WE'VE GOT ALL THESE ARPA FUNDS. THAT WAS OBVIOUSLY THREE YEARS AGO NOT PLANNED FOR. SO WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO SOME THINGS WITH THE ARPA FUNDS THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE TO BEFORE. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE. SO THE RETIREMENT SAVINGS, I'M TRYING TO KIND OF GIVE A QUICK SYNOPSIS OF YOUR 96 SLIDES, BY THE WAY. RIGHT. BUT NOTICE THAT EVERYTHING I'M SAYING IS REALLY POSITIVE. RIGHT. WHAT I'M LOOKING AT AS A WHOLE AS A COUNCIL MEMBER IS WE'VE GOT INCREASE IN RETAIL RECRUITMENT, WHICH MEANS AN INCREASE IN SALES TAX COMING. AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THAT. WE'VE GOT SO MUCH NEW PROPERTY, NEW COMMERCIAL COMING IN. WHO KNOWS WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THAT? IT'S GOING TO BE REALLY, REALLY GOOD. YOU WERE SHOWING IN DETAIL IN HERE INCREASE IN REVENUES IN THE GENERAL FUND. I'M GRABBING SOME OF YOUR NUMBERS. 8.9% INCREASE IN PROPERTY TAXES, 16.1% INCREASE IN SALES TAX. THIS IS ALL REALLY, REALLY GOOD. AND THEN WE HAVE POSITIVE FUND BALANCES WELL ABOVE THE 20% THRESHOLD OF WHICH OUR POLICY HAS ASKED FOR. WITH ALL OF THAT BEING SAID, I'VE MENTIONED THIS SINCE I GOT ELECTED. I'M UBER CONSCIOUS OF WHAT IS GOING ON IN THE MARKET RIGHT NOW. SO I DON'T WANT TO SAY THAT I'M NOT TAKING THAT INTO ACCOUNT. BUT ALL OF OUR FUND BALANCES REPEATEDLY IN THE BOOK ARE STATING WE ARE WELL ABOVE THE 20% THRESHOLD THAT OUR POLICY COUNCIL POLICY REQUIRES. WITH THAT BEING SAID, AS I LOOK AT THE BOND BEING VOTED FOR THIS YEAR, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HEARING FROM THE CITIZENS ABOUT THE PAINS OF GROWTH. RIGHT. AND THEIR DISDAIN FOR GROWTH, WHICH WE CANNOT STOP. RIGHT. BUT WITH GROWTH BRINGS MORE SALES TAX MONEY BRINGS MORE PROPERTY TAX MONEY. SO WHAT WE CAN DO, AS I LOOK AT ALL OF THIS AND LIKE ALL THIS POSITIVITY, WE NEED TO PAY THIS FORWARD, ESPECIALLY WITH THAT BOND THAT WAS SIGNED FOR THIS YEAR, THAT WAS VOTED IN. YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO OFFSET THOSE PAINS THAT THEY'RE EXPERIENCING, NOT ALL OF THEM, BUT SOME OF THEM BY STAYING WITH THE NO NEW REVENUE TAX RATE THIS YEAR AS WELL. AND AGAIN, I WAS THIS WAS THE BIGGER PICTURE. YOU KNOW, I NEEDED TO LOOK AT IT ALL LIKE THAT AND EVERYTHING IS SO POSITIVE. RIGHT. AND I DON'T SEE US MOVING FORWARD. YOU AND I'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS FOR MONTHS. YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT 3% AND I UNDERSTOOD IT. BUT AS I LOOKED AT THIS BIG OVERVIEW AND THEN AS WE TALKED ABOUT THAT CASH BALANCE, I KNOW THAT WE CAN PULL THIS CASH. [02:30:02] WHAT IF WE WENT TO NO NEW REVENUE? WHAT WOULD BE THE DIFFERENCE IN FUNDING? SO THE TWO TAKE US DOWN TO. THE OLD EFFECTIVE RATE FOR THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS, I BELIEVE WAS ABOUT 4550 ON THE TAX RATE VERSUS OUR 4649 I THINK IS WHAT WE PROPOSED. IT'S ABOUT A PENNY DIFFERENCE. WE'RE ESTIMATING THAT IT'S ABOUT $650,000 PER YEAR. AND SO IF YOU RECALL FROM THE DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD WITH THE COUNCIL, I THINK IT WAS ON JULY 5TH THAT WE TRIED TO BRING THESE ISSUES UP TO KIND OF HAVE THIS DISCUSSION. AND I GET IT'S HARD TO UNTIL YOU HAVE ALL THIS, IT'S HARD TO SEE AT ALL. BUT WE LOOKED AT ON THAT TEN YEAR LOOK, IT WAS ABOUT SIX AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS OF LESS REVENUE THAT YOU WOULD HAVE OR LESS FUND BALANCE THAT YOU HAVE. SO WE HAD PROPOSED. WELL, IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO THAT, IF YOU WANTED TO HAVE A LOWER TAX RATE, THERE'S SEVERAL WAYS YOU COULD DO IT. ONE, WE WERE TRYING TO FOCUS ON IS THE CASH FUNDED CAPITAL TO REDUCE THAT, I BELIEVE, FROM 8 MILLION TO 3.5. AND THAT'S KIND OF HOW THAT NUMBER WAS ARRIVED AT, IS THAT YOU COULD JUST REDUCE THAT CAPITAL, AND THAT'S ONE WAY TO DO IT. THE COUNCIL HAD THAT DISCUSSION. IT INDICATED THAT YOU WANTED TO DO THE CASH FUNDED CAPITAL. AND THAT'S PART OF PART OF THE REASON THAT I PROPOSE THE BUDGET TODAY FOR YOU. BUT THE OTHER COMPONENT TO THAT I WOULD SAY IS THE TOD TIRZ DISTRICT. AND WE TALKED ABOUT WHETHER YOU WANTED TO HAVE A TAX RATE SAVINGS ON THAT OR YOU WANTED TO HAVE THAT MONEY BE INVESTED IN THE PROJECTS. WE'VE INVESTED ALL OF THE MONEY IN THE PROJECTS BECAUSE THAT WAS THE DIRECTION THAT WE WERE GIVEN BY COUNCIL. BUT YOU COULD CERTAINLY CHANGE THAT. AND IF YOU WANTED TO HAVE, FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU DIDN'T WANT TO DO THE WICKER HILL PROJECT OR YOU DIDN'T WANT TO DO THE ALSBURY LANES OR YOU DIDN'T WANT TO DO HULING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, YOU COULD REDUCE THAT CAPITAL PROGRAM AND HAVE A LOWER RATE. THE OTHER WAY, I WOULD SAY IS IF THOSE TWO WERE PALATABLE OR NOT PALATABLE, THEN YOU WOULD HAVE TO. MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE LOOK AT ALL THE THINGS WE'RE ADDING THIS YEAR AND DECIDE WHICH OF THOSE THAT YOU WOULDN'T WANT TO ADD. AND I THINK MOST OF THOSE ARE POSITIONS IN THE GENERAL FUND THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT. 16 OF THOSE ARE RELATED TO PUBLIC SAFETY. THE ONES THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED FOR PUBLIC WORKS, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF IMPACT TO THE GENERAL FUND BECAUSE THEY'RE FUNDED WITH THOSE OTHER PROGRAMS. SO YOU HAVE JUST A FEW POSITIONS THAT ARE THERE, AND MOSTLY IT'S THE CAPITAL THAT'S GOING TO DRIVE. I THINK THAT DECISION OF KIND OF WHAT YOU WOULD WANT TO DO ON THAT. SO 690 SOMETHING THOUSAND A YEAR. 650 AND DOESN'T MEAN THAT AN OVERALL THE LONG TERM, BUT THAT TAKES INTO ACCOUNT THE VERY, VERY CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATIONS THAT YOU'VE PUT IN PLACE, WHICH ARE WE HAVE BLOWN OUT OF THE WATER SINCE I'VE BEEN IN COUNCIL. WE HAVE JUST BLOWN IT OUT OF THE WATER WITH ANY OF OUR ESTIMATIONS. WE'VE GONE WELL, WELL ABOVE, YOU KNOW, SO WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT A 16% INCREASE IN SALES TAX, THAT'S THAT'S BEFORE WE GET THESE COMMERCIAL LOCATIONS ON THE GROUND, RIGHT? SO THAT'S JUST WITH NATURAL INCREASE. SO I DON'T LOOK AT IT LIKE WE'RE SAYING NO TO PROJECTS. I SAY WE LOOK AT PULLING THE CASH FROM WHAT YOU WERE SAYING THAT I MEAN, IF WE'RE ONLY LOOKING AT 696,000 A YEAR AND WE DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THAT WILL LAST, I DON'T KNOW. RIGHT. IT MAY ONLY BE 300 AND SOMETHING NEXT YEAR BECAUSE OF THE INCREASE IN PROPERTY, INCREASE IN SALES TAX. SO TO SAY IT'S 696 FOR 5 TO 10 YEARS IS NOT ACTUALLY ACCURATE. IT ACTUALLY WILL GO DOWN BECAUSE WE WILL HAVE INCREASES IN ALL THOSE OTHER AREAS. SO THIS YOU'RE AM I MAKING SENSE? AM I CORRECT? I WOULD SAY THAT. AND I'LL LET MARTIN ANSWER IN A SECOND HERE, TOO. BUT, YOU KNOW, FROM A SALES TAX PERSPECTIVE, SURE, WE COULD BE CONSERVATIVE ON THOSE NUMBERS AND THEY COULD BE BETTER THAN WE FORECASTED. THEY COULD ALSO BE WORSE THAN WE FORECASTED TO. AND LIVING THROUGH SOME OF THE DEEPER RECESSIONS THAT WE HAVE, WHEN THEY'RE BAD, THEY GET BAD AND THEY GET BAD FAST AND THEY GO, IT'S NOT UNHEARD OF TO SEE TEN, 15, EVEN 20% DECLINES IN SALES TAX IN A SEVERE I'VE LIVED THROUGH THAT IN 2007, SO IT COULD HAPPEN. I'M NOT SAYING IT COULD BE THE OTHER WAY, BUT THERE'S ALSO AN EQUAL CHANCE IT COULD BE THE OTHER SIDE AS WELL FOR THE PROPERTY TAX ISSUE. OVER TIME, THE COUNCIL AND THE COMMUNITY NEEDS TO HAVE SOME GROWTH IN PROPERTY TAXES. AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE THAT OVER TIME, IT'S GOING TO ERODE YOUR ABILITY TO FUND PROGRAMS. AND SO IF IT'S A ONE TIME HIT, IT'S A $650,000 LOSS, BUT IT'S EVERY YEAR AFTER THAT BECAUSE YOU NEVER GET IT BACK. AND THE LAW DOESN'T ALLOW YOU TO GET IT BACK, THAT EVEN IF YOU HAD A DOWNTURN IN THE ECONOMY AND VALUES WENT DOWN, YOU CAN'T GO BACK AND GRAB IT BECAUSE IT'S GONE FOREVER. BUT THAT'S THE POLICY QUESTION THAT'S OUT THERE FOR YOU. IT'S NOT I'M TRYING TO I GET I'M TRYING TO ISOLATE IT DOWN TO A COUPLE OF THINGS. BUT THERE'S REALLY 100 THINGS THAT ARE INVOLVED IN LOOKING AT THE FINANCIAL PLAN. [02:35:04] THEY ALL GO TOGETHER. BUT THAT'S KIND OF THAT'S THE ISSUE OUT THERE. MARTIN DID YOU HAVE SOME OTHER COMMENTS? I DO. I DO WANT TO ASK FOR SOME CLARIFICATION IN REGARDS TO WHEN WHAT IS THE RATE THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO WHEN YOU SAY THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE? WELL, THAT'S BECAUSE THERE'S TWO. IS IT THE POINT 6 TO 1 EIGHT? WELL, THAT'S WHAT WAS STATED IN THE ON THE FIRST WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO. THAT'S WHERE I'D LIKE TO GET A CLARITY ON THAT. QUITE FRANKLY, I WAS CONFUSED BY WHAT YOU HAD STATED AT THE BEGINNING. I THINK THE THOUGHT PROCESS THERE IS IS WHEN YOU WHEN YOU REDUCE IT DOWN TO THAT. WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO GENERATE ANY ADDITIONAL REVENUE COMPARED TO WHAT WE GENERATE, BUT THAT ALSO THAT'S ALSO TIED TO THE DEBT SIDE FOR CAPITAL FUNDING AS WELL. SO IN ESSENCE, YOU ARE TAKING AWAY WHATEVER WHATEVER ADDITIONAL CAPACITY YOU'RE TRYING TO FUND, YOU'RE REDUCING THAT. SO THAT'S THE REASON WHY IT'S DIFFICULT TO TO BALANCE THAT WHEN YOU ARE TRYING TO GENERATE THE SAME AMOUNT. SO THE TODD TERS, FOR EXAMPLE, IT WOULD YOU'RE BEING PENALIZED IN THAT RATE BY THAT TAX RATE, SHIFTING OVER ONTO THE DEBT SIDE BECAUSE YOU'RE GENERATING MORE REVENUE WHICH YOU KNEW YOU NEEDED TO HAVE TO FUND THOSE ADDITIONAL PROJECTS. ALTHOUGH THE TOTAL RATES ARE THE SAME, IT DOES GET A LITTLE CONFUSING WITH THESE. I HOPE WE'RE MAKING SENSE. I UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT WE DO HAVE TIME. THEY'LL BE GETTING BUILT SOON. SO WE GOT A LOT OF THIS TAX MONEY THAT'LL BE COMING IN. IN ADDITION, AT SOME POINT, CHISHOLM SUMMIT WILL GET BUILT OUT AND THERE'S A LOT OF HOMES THERE THAT WILL BE CONTRIBUTING. AND, YOU KNOW, AND HOPEFULLY THE ECONOMY BOUNCES BACK. I JUST YOU KNOW, I THINK IF WE GOT TO PUT THE BRAKES ON RIGHT NOW ON SOMETHING AND LET'S PUT THE BRAKES ON. BUT THAT'S JUST WHERE I STAND. I THINK THE BIGGEST BANG FOR YOUR BUCK IS GOING TO BE THE CAPITAL PROJECTS, IF THAT IF THE COUNCIL WANTS TO TO REDUCE THE RATE FURTHER. THOSE ARE THE AREAS THAT I WOULD POINT YOU TO. I THINK THOSE ARE AREAS THAT YOU CAN GET THE MOST TAX RATE REDUCTION, BUT YOU ALSO LOSE THE PROJECT. AND SO THAT'S THE POLICY QUESTION THAT I'D PUT BACK TO YOU TO SAY, WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO? WHAT WOULD BE THE OFFSET IF YOU REDUCE THE TAX RATE SOMETHING ELSE NEEDS TO GIVE? DO WE NEED TO HAVE ANOTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT PROJECTS AND HOW MUCH WE WANT TO REDUCE IT AND WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE? WELL, I WOULD MAYOR, IF THAT'S THE WILL OF THE COUNCIL, I WOULD SAY THESE ARE THE ONES THAT I WOULD ASK YOU. THESE ARE THE ONES THAT RELATE TO THE TOD TERS. WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION BACK WHEN WE BROUGHT THIS FORWARD TO YOU. THE COUNCIL DIRECTED ME TO PUT ALL THOSE IN. BUT IF YOU DON'T WANT TO DO THOSE, WHICH OF THOSE WOULD YOU NOT WANT TO DO? AND THEN WE CAN GIVE YOU THE IMPACT OF THAT KIND OF WHAT IT IS. WELL, AGAIN, I LOOK AT IT, I LOOK AT THIS LIKE, WELL, WE GOT 26, 27 OUT THERE. YOU CLEARLY LOOK FURTHER OUT AND YOU SAY, OKAY, WE PUSH IT A YEAR. IT'S NOT. I GUESS I, DON'T LIKE THE TERM OF WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO AWAY WITH? WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO AWAY WITH IT. WE'RE JUST PUSHING IT OFF. YOU KNOW, DOING AWAY WITH IT MEANS WE'LL NEVER DO IT. IT JUST, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S THAT'S PART OF THE REALIZATION OF HOW THINGS HOW WE DO ANYTHING, WHETHER IT'S HERE OR IN REGULAR BUSINESS, IS OKAY. YOU CAN'T DO IT RIGHT NOW. BUT WE COULD MAYBE DO IT THEN BECAUSE BY THEN WE WILL HAVE AN INCREASE IN PROPERTY TAX BY THEN CHISUM SUMMIT, WHICH IS NOT INCLUDED IN ANY OF THIS. SO WE HAVE SEVERAL FACTORS THAT I'M LOOKING AT OF THINGS THAT YOU EVEN STATED WERE NOT INCLUDED IN OUR ESTIMATION. A COUPLE OF THINGS. SO CHISHOLM SUMMIT, YOU HAVE THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE FIRE STATION, WHICH MEMORY SERVES IS ABOUT $15 MILLION TO BUILD THAT FIRE STATION, WHICH IS A CAPITAL COST THAT WE'VE PROGRAMED IN. BUT IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE BIGGEST RECURRING COST YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE IS ALL THE STAFFING, WHICH IS PROBABLY 2 TO 2 AND ONE HALF MILLION DOLLARS PER YEAR. SO ALL OF THE CHISHOLM SUMMIT REVENUE THAT WE HAVE AT LEAST THE FIRST FEW YEARS WILL BE DEDICATED TO ALL OF THAT STAFFING TO MAKE UP THAT COST AND GOING BACK TO THE OTHER. TOTALLY UNDERSTAND, YOU CAN SHIFT THESE PROJECTS OUT. YOU CAN DECIDE YOU WANT TO DO THEM LATER. BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE COUNCIL UNDERSTANDS ONCE THAT REVENUE SOURCE IS GONE, YOUR ABILITY TO FUND THAT DEBT SERVICE IS GONE. AND SO EVEN IF YOU EXTEND IT OUT, YOU HAVE LESS CAPACITY OF WHAT YOU WERE GOING TO HAVE BECAUSE THE 3% WHAT THIS IS BUILT ON AND PREDICATED ON IS 3% GROWTH IN APPRAISED VALUES EVERY YEAR. WE'VE KIND OF SHOWN YOU THOSE ASSUMPTIONS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME GROWTH IN VALUES EVERY YEAR. SO YOU TAKE ONE PIECE OFF. YOU STILL GET THE GROWTH, BUT IT'S AT A LOWER NUMBER. AND YOU HAVE BY LAW, YOU CAN ONLY GO UP TO THREE AND A HALF PERCENT. SO YOU CAN'T GO BACK AND GRAB THAT PIECE. SO I THINK WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS CERTAINLY WITHIN THE PURVIEW OF THE COUNCIL TO DELAY PROJECTS OR MOVE PROJECTS AROUND. BUT I DON'T WANT TO TELL YOU THAT I JUST MOVE IT OUT A YEAR AND YOU CAN STILL DO ALL THOSE BECAUSE I DON'T THINK YOU CAN. [02:40:02] I DON'T THINK FINANCIALLY YOU COULD DO THAT. YOU MIGHT IF YOU DELAYED THEM FIVE OR TEN YEARS, THAT MAY CHANGE IT. YOU KNOW, I MEAN, AND THE REASON WHY I ASKED FOR THAT CLARIFICATION, BECAUSE THERE ARE TWO NO NEW REVENUE RATE NUMBERS THAT ARE PRESENTED. ONE IS THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS, AND ONE OF THEM IS THE ENTIRE NO NEW REVENUE RATE. THE IMPACT OF GOING DOWN TO THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE OF 0.62, IT'S ABOUT 1.3 MILLION. THE IMPACT OF GOING FROM THE RATE OF WE'RE PROPOSING OF 0.4649 VERSUS THE 0.455 IS ABOUT THAT 600,000. SO IT'S TWO VIEWPOINTS. ONE IS THE M&O. AND SO LOOKING AT THAT, WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS WE'RE MAINTAINING THE DEBT RATE AS WHAT WE'RE AT AT 1.1923. BUT IF YOU GO DOWN TO THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE, YOU ARE AFFECTING BOTH RATES AT THAT POINT. AND IT IS IN ESSENCE APPROXIMATELY $1.3 MILLION DOLLARS. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I PROVIDED THAT AS WELL. GOOD FEEDBACK. SO IF WE LEAVE IT AT THE NO NEW REVENUE, I'M HEARING WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT YOU CAN'T GET THAT BACK, BUT THEN NEXT YEAR. IT JUST STAYS. AND YOU DON'T DO ANYTHING. YOU DO GET THEN IT INCREASES AGAIN. RIGHT? RIGHT. WHICH IS WHAT WE'VE FORECASTED. I KNOW YOU GUYS. I KNOW WE'RE SUPPOSED TO LOOK LONG TERM. I GET THAT. BUT I'M LOOKING AT PEOPLE WHERE THEY ARE RIGHT THIS VERY SECOND. TOTALLY UNDERSTAND. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I GIVE YOU ALL THE INFORMATION AS YOU MAKE THOSE DECISIONS. I DON'T WANT TO TELL YOU SOMETHING THAT WE CAN'T DO. AND THAT'S THE INTENT BEHIND ME TELLING YOU THAT IS THAT, YES, YOU HAVE A 3% GROWTH NEXT YEAR THAT WAS PLANNED, BUT YOU STILL LOST THIS YEAR'S AND EVERY YEAR THAT WENT WITH IT. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO TELL YOU IS IT CERTAINLY CAN HAPPEN. AND AT THE COUNCIL'S DISCRETION, THERE ARE WAYS TO ADJUST THIS AND MANEUVER ON THE RATES. YOU HAVE ALL THAT FLEXIBILITY. BUT I DON'T WANT TO TELL YOU THAT YOU CAN DO THAT CAPITAL PROGRAM BECAUSE I DON'T THINK YOU CAN. CAN YOU EXPLAIN MARTIN THEN IF WE DO THE NO NEW REVENUE ON THE M&O PORTION? AND WE LEAVE. WHAT AT THE REGULAR RATE? CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT TO ME? COUNCIL MEMBER PAYNE CAN YOU CLARIFY. WELL SO THIS IS YOU GOT ME ON THE WHICH NO NEW REVENUE TAX RATE ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT. I WAS TALKING ABOUT THE 0.6218. RIGHT. AND YOU'RE SAYING. WELL, THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE M&O TAX RATE OF THE POINT, WHICH I KNOW THERE IS, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW WE COULD JUST LOWER THAT OR JUST DO THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE OF THAT AND NOT THE OTHER PORTION. WHEN. WHICH IS, I'M GUESSING, WHAT YOU GUYS ARE PROPOSING. CAPTURING ABOUT 3% OF THAT RATE. THAT WAS, IN ESSENCE, THE INITIAL THOUGHT PROCESS WAS THAT WE WERE GOING TO CAPTURE 3% OF WHAT THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE FOR THE M&O SIDE WAS GOING TO BE. WHEN SENATE BILL TWO WAS PASSED AND AGAIN, THE FACT THAT THEY ALLOWED TO REDUCE FROM AN 8% DOWN TO THREE AND A HALF, THE THREE AND ONE HALF IS ACTUALLY ONLY TIED TO THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS BECAUSE YOUR DEBT RATE IS YOUR DEBT RATE. SO WHEN YOU GET TO THE ACTUAL NO NEW REVENUE RATE, IT IS A DIFFERENT DEFINITION. ALL THAT MEANS IS THAT WHAT IS THE RATE THAT YOU WOULD GENERATE THE SAME AMOUNT OF REVENUE FOR THE PREVIOUS YEAR AND PERIOD. THAT'S IN ESSENCE WHAT THAT RATE REPRESENTS. SO THAT MEANS THAT WHATEVER GROWTH YOU HAVE, WHATEVER DEBT SERVICE YOU HAVE, YOU ARE IN ESSENCE TIED TO IT IS A NUMBER. IT IS THAT RATE THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO DO COMPARED TO THE PREVIOUS YEAR. BUT WITH DEBT SERVICE PAYMENTS, WITH BOND PROGRAMS, WITH ADDITIONAL COSTS, WITH THE EXPENDITURES OF THE OPERATIONS, THEN THAT IS IN ESSENCE, WHERE THAT THREE AND A HALF PERCENT OF THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE FOR THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS, THAT'S THE REASON WHY THEY HAVE THAT PARTICULAR DEFINITION AND THAT'S WHY THEY SEPARATE THE TWO. SEPARATED UH HUH. AND SO THE ONE THAT REALLY IMPACTS THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE IS THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS OF NO NEW REVENUE RATE. YOU CANNOT GO THREE AND ONE HALF PERCENT ABOVE THAT. SO ANOTHER WAY TO THINK ABOUT IT, I WENT BACK TO THIS SLIDE THAT WE HAD EARLIER AND WE LOOKED AT IN 22 WHAT WAS THE AVERAGE VALUE AND THE TAX RATE AND WHAT THAT GENERATED ON THE COST. AND THEN WE UPDATED THAT WITH THE NEW APPRAISED VALUE THAT WE HAVE. [02:45:02] AGAIN, THESE WERE AVERAGE, THE AVERAGE ACROSS THE CITY. YOU COULD IF YOU WANTED TO TRY TO KEEP THIS THE SAME 1591 WE COULD CALCULATE WHAT WOULD THAT RATE BE TO GET THIS BACK TO ZERO, IF THAT'S WHERE YOU WANTED TO GO? I DID A ROUGH CALCULATION ON THAT. IT'S NOT APPROVED BY MARTIN, BUT AROUND 6420 WOULD BE THAT RATE. OH THAT'S GOOD. I CAME UP WITH 6473. SO YEAH. YEAH. SO IT'S ABOUT A PENNY AND A HALF, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. WE'LL GET YOU THERE. OKAY. SO THAT'S, WHAT I WOULD SUPPORT. I WOULD SUPPORT I DON'T WANT TO RAISE OUR CITIZENS TAXES. OKAY. AND I THINK SO THE FIRST QUESTION WOULD BE THE RATE THAT THE COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO PURSUE. AND THEN WE NEED TO TRANSITION INTO, WELL, WHAT DO WE CUT OUT SO YOU CAN GET THAT RATE? AND I WANT TO CLARIFY, I DO NOT WANT THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION FACTORED INTO THAT BECAUSE THAT DOESN'T IMPACT OUR RENTERS. SO WHEN I'M WHEN I'M SAYING I DON'T WANT IT TO I DON'T WANT TO HARM OUR CITIZENS, WHAT I'M SAYING IS I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE TAX BILL STAYS THE SAME, EXCLUDING THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION. WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT. AND THEN I THINK ANOTHER QUESTION FOR THE COUNCIL IS, DO YOU WANT TO INCREASE THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION EACH YEAR OR DO YOU BECAUSE THERE'S A COST TO DOING THAT AND THE CITY IS LOSING TAX REVENUE BY DOING THAT. AND IF WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT IT THE ABSOLUTE LEVEL AND NOT INCLUDED IN THAT CALCULATION, DO YOU WANT TO DO THAT AS A POLICY LEVEL OR DO YOU WANT TO JUST KEEP IT WHERE IT IS? I LIKE THE IDEA OF INCREASING THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION, AT LEAST TO GET IT TO THE 5 OR 10%. I DON'T KNOW IF WE'LL EVER. I DON'T KNOW. YOU KNOW, IT'S DOWN THE ROAD AS FAR AS WHETHER YOU EVER YOU HIT THE MAXIMUM 20. I WOULD LIKE TO AT LEAST GET UP TO THE FIVE OR TEN EVENTUALLY. IT'S MY THINKING. IF YOUR NUMBER IS RIGHT, WHATEVER THAT NUMBER IS. IT'S FUNNY HOW I CAME UP WITH. I HAD NO IDEA. AND BY THE WAY, I DON'T KNOW HOW I CAME UP WITH THAT. COULD NOT RECREATE THAT. THAT'S WHY I'M NOT IN FINANCE. BUT I CAN SEE IF YOU CAN DO THAT, I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THAT WITHOUT GOING DOWN TO THE SIX TWO OR THE SIX TWO. YES. OKAY. AND I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY IN THAT 6 TO $700,000 DOLLAR RANGE OF THE IMPACT ON THE REVENUE. THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE LOOK. IT'S KIND OF IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO THE O&M, NO NEW REVENUE RATE THAT MARTIN WAS TALKING ABOUT. I KNOW IT GETS A LITTLE COMPLICATED, BUT THAT'S VERY CLOSE TO THAT. SO WE THINK THAT'S THAT 6 TO $700,000 REVENUE IMPACT PER YEAR. SO THAT'S NOT GOING TO MAKE AS MUCH OF A HIT THEN WE'RE IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A. IT'S GOING DOWN TO THE I AGREE WITH KEEPING THE HOMESTEAD AND MOVING IT UP. I DON'T I THOUGHT WE INITIALLY TALKED ABOUT GETTING TO FIVE IF WE COULD. BUT I'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THAT AND BUT OKAY. SO THAT'S WHERE I'D GO TO SEE WHERE THAT TAKES US FINANCIALLY. AND THEN I'M WILLING TO. NO, IT'S OKAY. I DID WANT TO CLARIFY TO COUNCILMEMBER STANFORD'S POINT, THOUGH, MY QUICK MATH HERE, THE 6420, THAT'S TO GET YOU TO ZERO, INCLUDING THE HOMESTEAD. SO IT WOULD BE MORE IF YOU DON'T INCLUDE THOSE SO JUST. 6420. I HAD A YOU KNOW, I HAD A POINT, HAD A PENNY AND A HALF. WE CAN GIVE YOU MORE PRECISION OF THAT, BUT THAT'S KIND OF WHERE YOU ARE. FOR SURE. I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THAT. HAVE YOU WOULD YOU GUYS CONSIDER THAT? RIGHT I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT WHAT IS IT? I MEAN, I JUST I THINK IT'S A DISCUSSION OF WHAT DO WE WAIT ON WHAT IS NOT. I MEAN, I KEEP FLIPPING BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN THE CHARTS OF CAPITAL PROJECTS AND THE POSITIONS THAT HAVE BEEN RECOMMENDED TO ADD. AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, IF WE DON'T GO DOWN TO THE NO NEW REVENUE, WE DON'T HAVE TO CUT ANYTHING. WE CAN PULL THIS OUT OF CASH IF IT CAME DOWN TO IT OR THIS COULD COME OFF THE ADDITIONAL SALES TAX THAT WE MADE A TON OF MONEY OFF OF. AM I CORRECT? INCORRECT? NO SIR THAT'S NOT OUR RECOMMENDATION. SO THIS IS THE EXACT CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD BACK ON JULY 5TH ABOUT DO YOU WANT THE ADDITIONAL 3% ON EXISTING PROPERTIES OR NOT? AND THE OPTIONS THAT WE GAVE YOU THEN AND THERE'S MORE BUT WE LOOKED AT PRIMARILY THE CASH FUNDED CAPITAL WOULD BE KIND OF A DECISION POINT THAT WE IF YOU WANT TO GO DOWN TO THAT RATE AND NOT HAVE ANY INCREASE, THAT WE WOULD LOOK AT REDUCING THAT THAT WOULD BE THE RECOMMENDATION [02:50:10] OR IN SOME COMBINATION WITH THOSE TOD TIRZ PROJECTS THAT YOU WOULD NOT PUT AS MUCH OF THAT. REMEMBER, WE TALKED ABOUT UP TO $0.02 OF TAX RATE RELIEF IF YOU DISSOLVE THAT. YEP. SO YOU COULD TAKE A HALF OF THAT AND HAVE $5 MILLION DOLLARS OF PROJECTS AND HAVE A PENNY RELIEF THROUGH THAT PROCESS. BUT YOU DON'T GET THE PROJECT. SO THAT'S THE TWO LARGEST PIECES. THERE ARE OBVIOUSLY SOME OF THE POSITIONS THAT WE'RE ADDING. IF YOU COULD LOOK AT THOSE, IF I HAD TO RANK ALL OF THE POSITIONS THAT WE HAVE, PROBABLY THE TWO, IF YOU WERE TO ASK ME WHICH ONES WOULD I RECOMMEND CUTTING? PROBABLY BE THE YOUTH LIBRARIAN AND IT'D PROBABLY BE THE YOUTH LIBRARIAN. IT'S NOTHING AGAINST LIBRARIES, BUT IF I HAD TO RANK THE POSITIONS IT WOULD BE THAT POSITION, AS WELL AS TAKING THE PART TIME POSITION IN ANIMAL SERVICES AND MAKE THEM FULL TIME, THAT DOESN'T GET YOU A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY, BUT IT'S SOMETHING. BUT EVEN IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET, WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT THIS SLIDE RIGHT HERE. WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT 24 BILLION. WE'RE LOOKING AT 2 MILLION 300,000. THE 10 MILLION. SAY THAT AGAIN, SIR. I WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE. I'M LOOKING AT 2023. I KNOW YOU GUYS PROJECT THAT, AND THAT'S THE WAY WE GOT TO DO. BUT I THINK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, JUST RIGHT NOW THIS YEAR AND HOPEFULLY THE ECONOMY BOUNCES BACK BETTER. BUT I'M LOOKING AT 2.3 MILLION, NOT THE 24 DOWN THE ROAD. I'M LOOKING AT 2.3 IMMEDIATELY AND WE'VE GOT THE FUNDING FOR THE 2.3. WELL, YES, SIR, YOU WOULD HAVE THAT. BUT IN OUR FINANCIAL PLAN, WE WOULD BE SHOWING ALL THOSE PROJECTS BEING FUNDED WITH THAT CASH. AND IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THAT REVENUE SOURCE, THAT CASH WILL NOT BE THERE. AND THAT'S I WILL KNOW THAT FOR CERTAIN THAT THEY WILL NOT BE THERE FROM A PROPERTY TAX. IT COULD BE MADE UP WITH SALES TAX OR OTHER THINGS. BUT I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND TO YOU THAT YOU CUT THE FUNDING BUT DON'T CHANGE THE PROJECTS. I THINK WE NEED TO DO THOSE IN CONCERT. AND THEN IF IT'S BETTER THAN WE THINK, THAT'S GREAT. THEN WE COULD ADD SOMETHING BACK. ADD IT BACK IN? YES, SIR. THAT WOULD BE MY SUGGESTION TO YOU IS THAT YOU'D ADD IT BACK IF YOU GOT IT. SO WE'VE GOT 1.5 MILLION IN CITY HALL RENOVATIONS. YOU COULD TAKE THAT OFF. YES, SIR, BUT YOU WILL. I WANT TO TELL YOU THERE WILL BE SOME COSTS TO DO THIS. YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOME RENOVATION FOR THIS BUILDING. WE'LL EXPLORE THAT. I'M WILLING TO EXPLORE THAT PART OF IT. I'M SYMPATHETIC TO THE CONCERN. I REALLY AM. BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ECONOMY IS GOING TO DO IF WE DO THE NNR. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO. WE'RE GOING TO RAISE THE TAX BACK UP. IF THINGS GO THE WAY IT LOOKS LIKE IT COULD, WE COULD LOSE THIS GROWTH REAL QUICK. AND THE WORST THING WE COULD DO IS GO BACK AND ASK FOR AND WE'VE GOT TO GO UP THAT. THEN WE HAVE TO GO TO THE VOTERS, CORRECT? YES. IF YOU WENT OVER THE THREE AND A HALF PERCENT. AND IF YOU LOSE, IF YOU DON'T DO THE INCREASE THIS YEAR, YOU COULDN'T GO TO SIX AND A HALF NEXT YEAR. YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO THAT UNLESS YOU WENT TO THE VOTERS AND HAD AN ELECTION. AND I WOULD BE OKAY WITH A COMPROMISE OF SOME TYPE. I THINK YOU GOT A GOOD COMPROMISE. THAT'S WHAT I THINK TOO I WAS GOING TO SAY IN YOUR QUICK MATH MARTIN DO YOU HAVE WHAT THE PERCENTAGE OF CHANGE IT WOULD BE TO THAT? I THINK EVEN NOW. FOR EXAMPLE? I THINK NOW IF YOU LOOK AT THE .455 AND YOU ADD 3% TO THAT YOU AT THE 0.4649. SO JUST 3% IS APPROXIMATELY ONE AND ONE HALF CENTS ON THE TAX RATE, PRETTY MUCH THAT IS WHAT A 3% INCREASE WILL DO FROM A NO NEW REVENUE RATE UP. YES SIR AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE CLEAR. SO IT'S ABOUT 650,000 FOR THAT. BUT TO GO ALL THE WAY, IF WE EXCLUDE THE HOMESTEAD, YOU'RE GOING TO TWO OR SO. JIMMY. WE'LL HAVE TO CALCULATE THAT FOR YOU. BUT THAT'S. MAYBE A COMPROMISE. I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT THE HOMESTEAD, HONESTLY. I MEAN, I FEEL FOR RENTERS, BUT TO ME, I FEEL LIKE THIS IS A GOOD COMPROMISE. IT WOULD BE GOOD I JUST WANTED TO BE RESPECTED I AGREE. I DON'T WANT AND I'M SYMPATHETIC TO THAT ALSO. BUT THE THING ABOUT IT IS WE ALSO HAVE TO LOOK AT OUR ROADS AND THE DIRECTIONS OUR ROADS ARE AND STUFF OF THAT NATURE. AND SO I REALLY WISH DAN WAS HERE BECAUSE IF Y'ALL REMEMBER HE WAS VERY ADAMANT ABOUT KEEPING THESE PROJECTS. AND I'D LIKE TO I WISH HE WAS A PART OF THIS. THE HOMESTEAD NO, YOU STILL HAVE TO YOU'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE TO. [02:55:03] THAT'S IT'S OUT IN THE COUNTRY A BIT. I KNOW IT'S ON THE WAY TO RUSSELL FARM, BUT IT'S A QUAINT LITTLE. ERIC CAN YOU COME UP AND TELL US WHAT THAT PROJECT IS? IT'S THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT. YES. AND VISTAS DEVELOPMENT GOING ALL THE WAY DOWN TO 714 SO I GUESS I'M TORN ON WHAT THAT MEANS. MAYBE IF WE COULD GO BACK TO THE MAP, MICHAEL, AND SWITCH BACK TO THAT. I SOMETIMES USE IT WHEN THE TRAIN IS STUCK THERE. SO I DRIVE THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. GIVE ME A SECOND. YEP. YEAH. SO CURRENTLY HIDDEN VISTAS TERMINATES HERE. IT WOULD TAKE IT ALL THE WAY THROUGH TO 714. I'M USING VALLEY CREST. I SEE. SO HIDDEN VISTAS THAT EXPANDED NEIGHBORHOOD WILL JUST STOP. SO WHAT IT DOES, IT STOPS. CURRENTLY IT STOPS RIGHT HERE. THE PROJECT IDENTIFIED WOULD TAKE THIS THROUGH ALL THE WAY TO 714, SO WE'D HAVE A SECOND CONNECTION. RIGHT NOW, THIS AREA KIND OF DEAD ENDS INTO HERE. SO FROM A MOBILITY STANDPOINT, IT ALLOWS THEM MULTIPLE ACCESS OUTS SO THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO GO OUT TO HIDDEN CREEK. GOTCHA. THEY COULD GO DOWN TO 714 AND GO OUT THE BACK WAY. IT GIVES THEM BETTER ACCESS INSTEAD OF USING HIDDEN CREEK TO GET THEY COULD GET OVER TO JOHN JONES AND TIDE THROUGH. EVENTUALLY LONG TERM THE MASTER PLAN HAS 714 GETS TIED THROUGH. IF YOU SEE COMMONS DRIVE OVER HERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT COMMONS, COMMONS EVENTUALLY LONG TERM TIES INTO 714 AND 714, WILL BE EXPANDED. THIS IS THAT BACK CONNECTION AS OF RIGHT NOW. I DON'T THINK 714 CAN HANDLE THAT AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC. AND WE EVEN HAD A RESIDENT COME WHEN WE HAD THAT LOT THAT SPLIT INTO TWO ONE ACRES, RIGHT NEAR BROAD VALLEY, RIGHT NEAR LACE LANE. AND HE WAS EVEN SAYING, LIKE, I KNOW I DRIVE DOBSON A LOT, MY PARENTS LIVE OFF OF IT. SO OR 714 LIKE I DON'T THINK IT COULD HANDLE THAT TRAFFIC EVEN IF WE DID EXPAND IT IN IN 27. 714 IS LIKE YOU'RE SAYING LONG TERM AND BY HOW LONG LIKE HOW FAR OUT? IT WOULD PROBABLY BE MOST LIKELY IN THE NEXT GEO BOND ELECTION WILL PROBABLY BE ON THE LIST. IT'S IN THE MASTER PLAN IN THE TEN YEAR PLAN. SO THE FIVE YEAR PLAN IS A LOT OF THE STUFF THAT WENT INTO GEO BOND. SO IT WOULD BE IN THE NEXT IF WE WERE TO DO A GEO BOND FIVE YEARS OUT, IT'D BE IN THE NEXT FIVE YEAR PLAN. SO THIS WOULD ALL BE EXPANDED AS PART OF THAT BECAUSE WE'RE SEEING THE DEVELOPMENT HERE. SO WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO SEE THE GROWTH OUT THIS WAY. RIGHT. AND MY OTHER QUESTION WOULD BE THAT THOSE TWO LOTS THAT ARE IN BETWEEN WHAT'S BEING CONSTRUCTED AND 714, WHAT LIKE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THOSE. DO YOU KNOW WHO OWNS THAT? IF THEY HAVE ANY INTENTION OF DEVELOPING? I JUST WONDER IF WE HELD OFF ON SOMETHING LIKE THAT. ARE THERE OPPORTUNITIES TO WORK WITH THE DEVELOPER TO MAKE THAT EXTENSION HAPPEN? SO I COULDN'T TELL YOU OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD WHO OWNS THESE PROPERTIES. I KNOW THAT THERE'S PLANS FOR DEVELOPMENT OF THIS IN THE FUTURE. LIKE YOU SAID, THESE AREAS RIGHT HERE, WE DON'T HAVE THERE'S NO PLANS CURRENTLY TO DEVELOP THIS THAT I'M AWARE OF. BUT AGAIN, IT'S KEEPING THE CONNECTION IN PLACE. YES, WE COULD HOLD OFF AND WAIT FOR A DEVELOPER TO DO IT. WE'D STILL HAVE TO HAVE FIND DEVELOPER PARTICIPATION FUNDING AT SOME POINT. SURE. SO JUST GIVE YOU KIND OF SO. NO, I'M NOT SAYING IT'S GUARANTEED, BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO THINK OUTSIDE OF THE BOX. SO JUST TO GIVE A LITTLE CLARIFICATION, KIND OF IF I COULD TOO ON THIS, TOMMY MADE A GREAT POINT IS AT THE BOTTOM OF THAT SLIDE THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT, THE ADDITIONAL CAPITAL PROJECTS IT HAD, HOW MUCH WAS IMPACT FEES, HOW MUCH IS SOME OF THE CASH FUNDING THAT WE HAVE AS WELL AS THE THE TOD TIRZ THIS IS A STREET IMPACT FEE FUNDED PROJECT SO IT DOESN'T GIVE YOU FROM A TAX RATE PROSPECTIVE. WE CAN HELP YOU IDENTIFY SOME OF THOSE OTHER ONES PERHAPS ON THERE. BUT THIS IS A STREET IMPACT FEE. SO SORRY TO. RAIN ON MY PARADE. BUT THAT'S A GOOD POINT. CAN YOU TAKE THAT BACK, PLEASE. [LAUGHTER] BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD. GIVE US SOME OPTIONS. SO I THINK THE ONES THAT WERE OUT OF THE TOD TIRZ THAT WE LOOKED AT. SO THAT WOULD BE THE HULEN 4 LANE EXPANSION. WE HAD THE CANDLER TO HULEN ALSBURY EXPANSION, THOSE ADDITIONAL LANES AND YOU HAVE THE WICKER HILL PROJECT. SO THOSE ARE ALL BE ONES THAT WOULD KIND OF BE PART OF THAT. NOW THAT WOULD BE KIND OF THE TIRZ TOD BUT YOU COULD HAVE, THE OTHER ONES WOULD BE LIKE THE CASH FUNDED PROJECTS THAT WE HAD. SO WE CAN LOOK AT SOME OF THOSE TOO. I THINK WE CAN WAIT. SORRY. I DON'T WANT TO CROWD YOU SORRY, TOMMY. I APOLOGIZE. SO WE'VE THERE'S BEEN SO MANY ITERATIONS OF THIS, SO WE'VE HAD TO PLAY, RIGHT? WE PLAY A LITTLE GAME OF TETRIS, RIGHT? WHEN WE START MESSING WITH THESE NUMBERS BECAUSE WE HAVE IMPACT FEES, WE HAVE CASH, WE CAN ONLY SPEND MONEY IN CERTAIN AREAS. SO IN FY 27, THE $1.5 MILLION DOLLARS FOR HIDDEN VISTAS IS ALL CASH. [03:00:01] IF YOU GO DOWN BELOW, YOU SEE $2.064 MILLION DOLLARS. THAT'S IMPACT FEES THAT'S TIED TO THE VILLAGE CREEK PARKWAY. SO WHAT IS THAT'S BY THE VILLAGE CREEK PARKWAY EXPANSION. THAT'S PART OF THE TARRANT COUNTY BOND PROJECT. SO IT IS 1.5 MILLION THAT COULD FALL OFF. SO THAT'S CASH. SORRY, THAT IS AS OF RIGHT NOW, IT'S CASH. YEAH, RIGHT. MONEY. SO AND I THINK WHAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR IS, IF WE GOT TO GO DOWN TO THAT RATE, JUST ROUGH MATH WAS SIX AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS IN CASH THAT WE'D HAVE TO TRY TO REDUCE. SO THAT'S 1.5 OF THE 6.5. AND WICKER HILL IF YOU DID THOSE TWO THAT MAY BE IT. WE COULD LOOK AT WHAT THAT IMPACT IS. YOU CAN'T DO EVERYTHING. WE HAVE TO BE REALISTIC. IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE TOD TIRZ JUST HIGH LEVEL WE WERE TALKING TWO PENNIES WAS LIKE $10.4 MILLION DOLLARS SO ONE PENNY IS AROUND 5 MILLION SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO IT CAN PROBABLY GET YOU CLOSE. FIRST OF ALL, I WANT THE OTHER TWO FOLKS TO COME IN AND GET THIS. BUT WHAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE OF IS THAT ON DOWN THE LINE, CUTS WE MAKE NOW DOESN'T COST US MORE MONEY ON DOWN THE LINE. AND I'M AFRAID OF THAT. WELL, YES, WE CAN CUT THE TAX RATE. WE SURE CAN. BUT BY GOD, IT'S GOING TO BE HARD TO GO BACK WHEN WE CUT IT AND WE GET IT IN A JAM TO SAY, OH, BY THE WAY, WE'RE GOING TO GO UP ANOTHER FOUR OR FIVE, SIX CENTS BECAUSE WE MADE A CRITICAL MISTAKE BACK DOWN HERE. SO WHAT I WANT YOU TO DO, BRYAN, AND YOUR STAFF, I WANT TO KNOW ALL OF THE POSSIBLE THINGS THAT CAN HAPPEN TO US, SAY, FIVE YEARS DOWN THE LINE. NOW, I DON'T MIND YOU GUYS NO, I DON'T MIND SAVING MONEY. ABSOLUTELY. FOR IT, BUT NOT AT THE EXPENSE OF COSTING US MONEY ON DOWN THE LINE. SO WOULD YOU PLEASE LET US KNOW ALL OF THESE THINGS? NOT JUST. AND YES, I'M NOT DISAGREEING WITH WHAT YOU SAY, BUT I WANT TO KNOW THE POSSIBLE CAUSE OF WHAT CAN CAUSE US MORE MONEY IF WE DO SOME OF THESE THINGS. AND I KNOW YOU'LL COME UP WITH THAT. WE NEED THAT VERY BADLY. WE CAN TRY TO PUT SOME MORE PRECISION TO THAT. I THINK IF YOU'RE LET'S SAY WICKER HILL IS THE ONE THAT YOU ARE CONSIDERING, NOT FUNDING. ULTIMATELY, IF YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'RE NEVER GOING TO FUND THAT AND YOU'RE NEVER GOING TO DO THAT PROJECT, THEN THAT'S YOU KNOW, YOU TAKE THAT OFF THE TABLE. I SUSPECT YOU WILL HAVE TO FUND THAT AT SOME POINT. AND I THINK THE COST WILL BE HIGHER. OK. THAT'S WHAT I WOULD TELL YOU FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE. THE OTHER PROJECTS THAT YOU CAN MOVE AROUND THAT ARE DIFFERENT THAN THAT. BUT THERE'S A REASON I WAS ASKING YOU ABOUT THE 3% GROWTH, BUT WE'RE ALREADY STARTING TO SEE A DROP IN RESTAURANT ATTENDANCE. THAT'S STARTING TO HAPPEN. SO THAT'S A DROP IN SALES TAX. AND I'M SYMPATHETIC TO THE FACT THAT WE GIVE THIS, THEN WE GOT TO GO ASK FOR IT BACK AND DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NUMBERS ARE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAS TO HAPPEN FOR THAT TO BE THAT. BUT I JUST I LIKE THE COMPROMISE AND I DO WANT THE OTHER TWO HERE. SO, YEAH THAT'S WHERE I'M AT ON THAT. SO YOU'RE PROPOSING 6572. RIGHT? AND WHAT WHAT DID WE SAY 6520. SOMEWHERE IN THAT AROUND THAT. I THINK THAT WAS THE COMPROMISE. IF YOU KEPT THE HOMESTEAD AS ROUGHLY SO WE'RE LOOKING AT. 6420 YOU ARE RIGHT YES, MA'AM. 6420 FROM 6572. WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT GOING TO SIX TWO ALL THE WAY DOWN BECAUSE THAT WOULD I BELIEVE THAT WOULD HURT US. IT WOULD QUITE POSSIBLY HURT THE SYSTEM PRETTY BAD I SAY THIS, WHETHER WE SAY WE'RE FUNDING THE PROJECT NOW OR NOT, IT'S STILL GOING TO COST US MORE MONEY IN THREE YEARS TO DO A PROJECT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT PAYING FOR IT NOW. WE'RE GOING TO PAY FOR IT THEN, WHICH MEANS ALL THE COSTS WILL GO UP. SO THAT TO ME, I FEEL LIKE THAT'S A NET EVEN THERE BECAUSE THAT'S AUTOMATICALLY GOING TO HAPPEN. WE'RE NOT BUILDING IT TODAY. IT'S WE'RE SAYING WE'RE GOING TO BUILD IT IN 2027. WE'RE GOING TO PAY 2027 COSTS NO MATTER WHAT. WELL YOU REALLY DON'T KNOW THAT BECAUSE THE PAST HISTORY HAS SHOWN THAT ONCE WE'VE HAD A BOOM AND A RECESSION, COST OF GOODS COMES DOWN. WELL, THAT COULD BE GREAT. YEAH, BUT WE DON'T KNOW. UP AND DOWN. WE BUILT THE CHURCH. WE WENT FROM 22 MILLION AND DROPPED IT TO 6.2 BECAUSE THE ECONOMY WENT BELLY. [03:05:01] AND SO I'VE KIND OF LIVED THROUGH THAT. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO BE THEN. THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT IS THE ANIMAL SHELTER. WHAT WE WOUND UP START OUT, WHAT AT A HALF MILLION DOLLARS? WE WOUND UP SPENDING A MILLION WE DON'T KNOW. RIGHT. SO IT'S A .1. THERE'S NOT A CONCRETE ANSWER ON THIS. SO I'LL COMPROMISE WITH YOU, THOUGH. I THINK. LET'S SEE, A THOUGHT MY TIME I'VE SEEN THIS HAPPENING BEFORE IT'S CAUSE AND EFFECT. WE LOOK UP IN, YOU KNOW, THERE'S AN EFFECT ON EVERYTHING WE DO. AND I DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU ALL, BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T GET HURT ON DOWN THE LINE ON THE DECISION WE MAKE TODAY. SO IF YOU COULD REALLY IT'S IMPOSSIBLE FOR YOU TO COME UP WITH ALL THESE NUMBERS, BUT WE DO NEED TO KNOW AN OVERALL EFFECT. AND THEN I CAN GO ALONG, BUT I'M NOT GOING TO JUST GO ALONG WITH BOOM, TODAY WE'VE MADE THIS DECISION. AND SO LET'S DON'T LET'S GO AHEAD AND LOOK AT ALL OF IT. I THINK WHAT WE COULD DO IS GO BACK AND WE'VE BEEN THUMBNAILING KIND OF WHAT THE RATE IS. WE COULD GIVE YOU THAT PRECISE NUMBER, WHAT THE REVENUE IMPACT IS, AND THEN SHOW YOU THOSE FIVE AND TEN YEAR PLANS AGAIN OF KIND OF HOW THAT LOOKS AND SOME OPTIONS ON THE CAPITAL PROGRAM. IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE ASKING US TO DO, WE CAN COME BACK AND SAY IF WE TOOK THIS OR THIS OUT OR MOVED THIS AROUND, MAYBE MOVING SOME THINGS OUT ON THE PLAN INSTEAD OF YEAR THREE, MAYBE IT'S YEAR FIVE. HOW WOULD THAT KIND OF MANEUVER IT? IS THAT IF YOU'RE ASKING US TO DO THAT, I THINK WE COULD COME BACK WITH SOME INFORMATION AND MAYBE PAINT THAT PICTURE A LITTLE BIT BETTER COUNCIL MEMBER JOHNSON. SO YOU COULD KIND OF SEE IT AND THEN THE COUNCIL COULD MAKE THAT DECISION WHERE YOU WANT TO BE. DOES THAT SOUND REASONABLE TO EVERYBODY? I'M HAPPY TO DO THAT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M DOING THE RIGHT THING FOR YOU. ONE THING WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND BETTER THE RAMIFICATIONS OF WHATEVER DECISION WE MAKE. IF IT'S. RIGHT. AND YOU DID THIS BEFORE WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT LIKE IF YOU DID 3%, IF YOU DID 2%, IF YOU DID 1%. SO IT'S HARD TO I MEAN, IT'S NOT IT WOULDN'T BE RESPONSIBLE TO JUST GO, YEAH, LET'S CUT THIS ONE STREET THAT SOUNDS GOOD. IT MAKES UP THE 6 MILLION AND WE'RE GOOD TO GO. BUT WHAT IS THE LONG TERM OF NOT PLANNING THAT IN OUR FIVE YEAR PLAN? SO THEN IT MUST GO INTO THE NEXT FIVE YEAR PLAN. AND WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE AND HOW DO THE COST CHANGE? OKAY, SO DO WE NEED TO I'D BE GLAD TO DO THAT FOR YOU? WELL, SO WHEN YOU GET THIS TOGETHER, WE NEED TO HAVE ANOTHER SPECIAL SESSION TO GET YOUR TIME FRAME. WELL, AUGUST 15TH IS OUR NEXT MEETING AND WE CAN HAVE WE WERE PLANNING TO HAVE A WORK SESSION ON THERE JUST TO DISCUSS ANYTHING THAT WE WEREN'T ABLE TO RESOLVE TODAY. AND WE'LL GO THROUGH THAT WITH YOU AND GIVE YOU SOME OPTIONS AND THEN YOU DON'T. AND THEN FROM THERE, THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING, WE WERE PLANNING FOR SEPTEMBER 6, BUT IF YOU NEEDED ANOTHER MEETING AFTER THAT, IN BETWEEN, WE COULD ALWAYS HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING TO TALK. WHAT'S YOUR TIMELINE ON THE BUDGET WHEN DO YOU HAVE TO SIGN OFF AND GET IT DONE. WELL, MINE'S DONE. SO I'VE GIVEN YOU MY RECOMMENDED BUDGET. SO YOU GOT KIND OF LIMITED TIME. I WANT TO READ. YOU GOT A MONTH. I WANT TO SAY AND AGAIN, MAKE SURE THAT THE COUNCIL KNOWS THAT I WAS NOT TRYING TO CHANGE WHAT I SAID THE OTHER DAY. BUT AS I EXPLAINED TO CITY MANAGER THAT WHEN I GOT THE BOOK AND REALLY WHICH WE JUST GOT IT LAST MONDAY, FOR WHATEVER REASON, ANYTHING PASSED THOSE SLIDES IS WHAT REALLY ILLUMINATED A LOT OF THINGS FOR ME. AND I STARTED KIND OF DOING THE NUMBERS AND LOOKING AT THINGS, SO I CERTAINLY WASN'T TRYING TO SLOW THIS DOWN AND I RESPECT EVERYONE WHO PUT ALL THE TIME THEY PUT INTO THIS. SOMETIMES, LIKE I SAID, I SAID, IS THERE ANY WAY WE COULD GET THIS BOOK EARLIER NEXT YEAR? I KNOW. AND I SAID, NOT THE SLIDES, BUT ALL THE OTHER STUFF IN THE WAY THAT IT WAS WRITTEN OUT THERE WAS JUST I HAVE ALL THESE TABS AND STUFF. I WAS ABLE TO REALLY GRASP IT A LITTLE BIT BETTER. SO AGAIN, I DIDN'T MEAN TO THROW THIS OFF COURSE AND I WANT TO APOLOGIZE TO MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS ON THAT. I JUST. YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT. IT MADE MORE SENSE TO ME ONCE I SAW ALL OF THIS AND COULD PUT IT ALL TOGETHER. IT'S ALMOST LIKE I THOUGHT THIS LAST YEAR TOO. WE GET ALL OF THESE PRESENTATIONS, BUT TILL YOU GET IT ALL IN HERE, THEN YOU LOOK AT IT COMPILED, YOU'RE LIKE, OKAY, NOW THEY ALL MAKE SENSE HOW THIS AFFECTS THIS. AND WELL, I WANT TO BRING UP THE FACT THAT I'M THE BIG PICTURE TYPE GUY AND I APPRECIATE YOU AND VICTORIA BOTH [INAUDIBLE] GET INTO THE DETAILS AND BRING THINGS TO A HEAD AND ASK QUESTIONS. YOU DO BECAUSE THAT'S THE REASON WE HAVE SEVEN PEOPLE INSTEAD OF TWO PEOPLE, BECAUSE I REALLY LEAN ON THE OPINIONS OF THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS AND STUFF OF THAT NATURE. Y'ALL HAVE DONE GOOD TODAY. DON'T EVER FEEL BAD ABOUT TRYING TO SAVE OUR CITIZENS MONEY. THE FACT IS THOUGH, I JUST GET CONCERNED ABOUT THE LONG TERM. SO ANYWAY, I THINK WE'RE ALL GOOD. YEAH. AND I THINK IF IT'S JUST FOCUSING ON THE CAPITAL PROGRAM, I THINK THAT'S WHAT I'M HEARING FROM THE COUNCIL IS FOCUS ON SOME MODIFICATIONS THAT WE COULD MAKE THERE, WHETHER IT'S CASH FUNDING OR JUST THE CIP PROGRAM. [03:10:03] WHAT COULD WE DO TO REDUCE THAT RATE? IF THAT'S WHERE YOU ARE, I THINK WE CAN COME BACK WITH A FEW OPTIONS AND THEN SHOW YOU THAT FINANCIAL IMPACT AND COUNCIL MEMBER PAYNE I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM ON GETTING IT AND NOT HAVING A LOT OF TIME TO DIGEST IT. IT'S DIFFICULT BECAUSE WE DON'T GET OUR FINAL NUMBERS UNTIL JULY 25TH AND THEN WE'RE SCURRYING AROUND FOR THAT FOUR OR FIVE DAYS JUST TRYING TO CHURN EVERYTHING OUT. BUT WE UNDERSTAND. I KNOW IT'S DIFFICULT AND WE APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATION. THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE AND THAT'S WHY WE CALLED THE SPECIAL MEETING TO HAVE THIS. SO YOU HAVE PLENTY OF TIME TO DISCUSS IT. AND I THINK WE'LL PLAN ON COMING BACK ON THE 15TH IF THE COUNCIL IS GOOD WITH THAT. AND THEN IF YOU NEED MORE TIME, WE CAN HAVE AS MANY MEETINGS AS YOU WANT UNTIL WE GO THROUGH THE 6TH. I DO HAVE ONE SUGGESTION THOUGH, MAKE THE LETTERS BIGGER. [LAUGHTER] PLEASE. SOME OF THAT. I'M GOING TO NEED A MAGNIFYING GLASS TO LOOK AT THOSE FOLDOUT PAGES IN THE BACK THERE. BUT I KNOW YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT THOSE, BUT YEAH, WE APPRECIATE IT. ALL RIGHT. WELL, THANK YOU. I REALLY APPRECIATE I REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYTHING Y'ALL DO. THANK YOU. AND I'LL KIND OF ECHO TAMARA'S SENTIMENT THERE. I DON'T MEAN TO THROW A MONKEY WRENCH IN THINGS WHEN I GOT IT AND I WAS ABLE TO ACTUALLY LOOK AT IT AND SEE, OKAY, WELL, THIS IS GOING TO ACTUALLY IMPACT OUR CITIZENS. AND I KNOW SOME OF THE STRUGGLES THEY'VE REACHED OUT TO ME, SOME OF THE STRUGGLES THAT ARE GOING THROUGH. SO. TOTALLY UNDERSTAND. WE RESPECT THAT AND WE APPRECIATE ALL YOUR FEEDBACK AND COMMENTS. AND THAT'S IT'S A DIFFICULT ISSUE AND THAT'S WHY IT TAKES A LOT OF TIME. SO WE APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. SO MAYOR AND COUNCIL THAT'S GOING TO BRING US TO THE NEXT TWO ITEMS ON OUR AGENDA THAT ARE REQUIRING A VOTE. [3.B. Consider approval of a minute order setting the date and time of the public hearings on the tax rate and budget for FY2022-2023 for September 06, 2022 at 5:30 p.m. (Staff Presenter: Martin Avila, Finance Director)] EXCUSE ME, WE CANNOT USE OUR ELECTRONIC VOTING SINCE WE'RE SITTING DOWN HERE. SO WHAT I'LL NEED TO DO IS WE'LL HAVE TO DO A RAISE OF HAND AND THEN A REPEATING OF WHO MADE THE FIRST, WHO MADE THE SECOND, AND THEN THE VOTE. SO WE'LL MOVE ON FIRST TO 3B, CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A MINUTE ORDER, SETTING THE DATE AND TIME OF THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE TAX RATE AND BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 2022 2023. WE'RE SETTING THAT FOR SEPTEMBER 6, 2022 AT 5:30 P.M., WHICH WILL BE HERE AT CITY HALL, 141 WEST RENFRO IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS. SO, MAYOR, IF YOU COULD ASK FOR A MOTION, PLEASE? IS THERE A MOTION? DOES THIS HAVE TO BE SPECIFIC TOO? OKAY. MOVE TO APPROVE ITEM 3B. SECOND. I GOT A MOTION EXCUSE ME. GOT A MOTION BY TAMARA AN SECOND BY JIMMY. PLEASE VOTE. ALL APPROVE. THANK YOU, MAYOR. I DO WANT TO SAY THAT WAS THE FASTEST AGENDA ITEM ASSIGNED TO ME WITHOUT SAYING A WORD AND I REALLY ENJOYED THAT. [LAUGHTER] THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR THAT. SIT DOWN WE'LL CHANGE OUR MIND. [LAUGHTER] SO THAT'LL MOVE US ON TO 3C CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION PROPOSING A TAX RATE FOR THE 2022 TAX YEAR WITH A RECORD VOTE. [3.C. Consider approval of a resolution proposing a tax rate for the 2022 tax year with record vote. (Staff Presenter: Martin Avila, Finance Director)] SO THE STAFF PRESENTER IS MARTIN AVILA, FINANCE DIRECTOR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL. BEFORE I TALK ABOUT THIS ITEM, I DO WANT TO KIND OF EXPRESS THANKS TO MY FINANCE STAFF WHO WORKED REALLY HARD IN PREPARING THIS DOCUMENT AND ALL THE WONDERFUL WORKSHEETS DID A GREAT JOB. AND SO I APPRECIATE THEIR HELP. AND I REALLY THEY MEAN THE WORLD TO ME. SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I DO MENTION THAT IN REGARDS TO THEM IN REGARDS TO STATE REQUIREMENTS, THIS ITEM IS REQUIRED TO BE OUT THERE AS PART OF A PUBLIC NOTICES. AND SO THE RECOMMENDATION RIGHT NOW AND I KNOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PROPOSED RATES CURRENTLY THE BUDGET IS BASED UPON A 0.6572. WE RECOMMEND THAT WE VOTE AS PART OF THE PUBLISHING OF THE RATE. YOU'RE NOT VOTING ON THE RATE YOU JUST PROVIDING THE ABILITY TO SAY THIS IS WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW. BUT THE ACTUAL PROPOSAL OF THE APPROVAL OF THE RATE WILL BEGIN ON SEPTEMBER 6. SO I. JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WAS WHAT THIS ITEM IS REPRESENTING. AND AGAIN, IT IS THAT IS WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW. BUT IT'S JUST THE ABILITY TO SAY THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO PUBLISH, BUT IT'S NOT APPROVING IT YET. WE'RE STILL IN DISCUSSION. SO JUST TO CLARIFY ON THAT A LITTLE FURTHER TOO IF WHATEVER THE RATE IS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT GOING TO THE 6420 OR WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE, IF YOU USE THAT RATE IN THIS NOTICE, YOU COULD NOT GO ABOVE THAT. SO THIS GIVES YOU THE FLEXIBILITY TO STAY AT THE 65 RATE OR GO LOWER. AND SO WHEN YOU HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS, YOU HAVE THAT CAPACITY. SO THAT'S THE RECOMMENDATION. SO I'LL ASK THAT THE THE RESOLUTION THAT WAS IN THE PACKET IS THE ONE THAT WE'RE PROPOSING. RIGHT. WITH ALL THE NUMBERS THAT ARE CLEARLY STATED IN THAT PACKET. THAT WAY, YOU KNOW THAT WHAT YOU'RE VOTING ON RIGHT NOW IS THE RESOLUTION THAT WAS IN YOUR PACKET BEFORE YOU WITH THE NUMBERS OF THE TAX RATE THAT WE JUST SAID. [03:15:06] SO WHAT WE WOULD ASK FOR ON THIS ONE IS ALSO A MOTION FOR THE RESOLUTION, BUT KEEPING IN MIND THAT WE NEED THE RECORD VOTE. SO AFTER YOU TAKE THE VOTE, YOU CALL FOR THE MOTION AND THE SECOND AND YOU TAKE THE VOTE, THEN I WILL BE STATING EACH COUNCIL MEMBER THAT'S HERE WHO VOTED IN FAVOR OF THIS, AND THEN I WILL STATE THE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT ARE ABSENT. IS THERE A MOTION? DOES IT NEED TO BE STATED A CERTAIN WAY? NO. THE ONLY THING IS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO APPROVE IF IT'S APPROVAL OR DENIAL OF ITEM 3C. THE SPECIFIC MOTION IS THAT I THINK YOU WERE REFERRING TO BEFORE. THOSE WILL BE WHEN YOU DO THE TAX RATE AND THE ORDINANCE TO APPROVE THE BUDGET THAT ARE REQUIRED BY LAW. SO THOSE WON'T BE UNTIL THE SIXTH AND THE 12TH. YEAH. AND ALSO JUST FOR COUNCIL'S CLARIFICATION AND CITY MANAGER'S CLARIFICATION TOO WE ALWAYS TYPE THAT OUT AND PUT IT IN BIG FONT AT EVERYBODY'S PLACE. SO WHOEVER WANTS TO BE THE ONE TO READ IT CAN READ IT DIRECTLY FROM THAT SCRIPT THAT WE WRITE OUT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL, START IT. IS THERE A MOTION? MOVE TO APPROVE 3C? SECOND. I GOT A MOTION FOR RONNIE AND A SECOND BY TAMARA, PLEASE VOTE. VOTE FOR FOUR, I GUESS APPROVED TO APPROVE. NO IT'S EVERYBODY. SO IN APPROVAL, WAS COUNCIL MEMBER STANFORD IN FAVOR? THE MAYOR IN FAVOR? COUNCIL MEMBER VICTORIA JOHNSON IN FAVOR. COUNCIL MEMBER RONNIE JOHNSON IN FAVOR. COUNCIL MEMBER TAMARA PAYNE IN FAVOR WITH COUNCIL MEMBERS RICK GREEN ABSENT AND MAYOR PRO TEM DAN MCCLENDON ABSENT. THAT BRINGS US TO SECTION 4 THE ADJOURNMENT. SO WE HAVE NO OTHER ITEMS ON THE AGENDA FOR THIS AFTERNOON, NOW THAT IT'S AFTERNOON, WHEN WE STARTED IN THE MORNING. SO, MAYOR, IF YOU COULD CALL FOR A MOTION AND A SECOND NO VOTE AND THEN STATE THE TIME THAT WE'RE ADJOURNING? IS THERE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? MOVE TO ADJOURN. SECOND. I GOT JIMMY AND RONNIE. WE'RE OUT OF HERE AT 12:24. THANK YOU. AND. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.