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HOW'S EVERYBODY DOING TONIGHT? YOU LOOK GOOD.I'M GOING TO OPEN THIS MEETING UP AT 5:34 TONIGHT WE HAVE TOM PICKETT OF THE
[1. CALL TO ORDER Invocation - Tom Pickett, Minister of Reconciliation Pledge of Allegiance to the US Flag Texas Pledge: Honor the Texas Flag; I pledge allegiance to thee, Texas, one state under God; one and indivisible]
MINISTRY RECONCILIATION GOING TO SAY THE INVOCATION IF EVERYBODY WOULD RISE FOR OUR PLEDGE AND REMAIN STANDING FOR OUR.[INVOCATION] PLEASE JOIN WITH ME, OUR DEAR HEAVENLY FATHER, WE THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JESUS.
WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME BEFORE YOU AS A CITY COUNCIL FOR THE CITY OF BURLESON, WHO REPRESENT THE CITIZENS OF THIS FINE CITY.
WE ASK AND PRAY YOUR GUIDANCE AND DIRECTION AND INSPIRATION FOR YOUR WISDOM TO BE GIVEN TO ALL.
FOR US TO WORK IN THE SPIRIT OF COMMUNITY, WHICH IS TO LOVE OUR NEIGHBOR AS OURSELVES.
WE ASK AND PRAY THAT YOU WILL INSPIRE ALL THAT IS SAID AND DONE THAT WE CAN GIVE THE GLORY TO YOU.
WE THANK YOU THAT WE HAVE SUCH A COMMUNITY AS WE HAVE, BEEN WORKING TOGETHER FOR A LONG TIME AND ACCOMPLISHING MANY THINGS FOR THIS FINE CITY.
AND WE ASK AND PRAY THAT THAT WOULD CONTINUE AND THAT WE WOULD HAVE A WONDERFUL TIME OF SHARING OUR IDEAS AND HOPES AND DREAMS WITH EACH OTHER.
SO WE DO ASK AND PRAY YOUR BLESSING AND GUIDANCE AND DIRECTION, INSPIRATION AND THE BLESSED AND HOLY NAME OF JESUS.
AND ALL TOGETHER WE SAY, AMEN.
AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL THAT BRINGS US TO SECTION 2 OF THE CITY COUNCIL AGENDA TONIGHT, PUBLIC PRESENTATIONS.
HOWEVER, WE DO HAVE AN ITEM UNDER 2B RECOGNITION OF EMPLOYEE OF THE QUARTER FOR
[B. Presentations Recognition of the Employee of the Quarter for the 3rd quarter of 2021. (Staff Presenter: Rick DeOrdio, Director of Human Resources)]
THE THIRD QUARTER OF 2021.THE STAFF PRESENTED TONIGHT IS MR. DEORDIO, THE DIRECTOR OF HUMAN RESOURCES.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, LET'S SPEND A COUPLE OF MOMENTS WITH YOU THIS EVENING TO RECOGNIZE ONE OF OUR OWN.
ONE OF OUR INDIVIDUALS WHO HAS BEEN NOMINATED AND VOTED ON BY HER PEERS AS THE EMPLOYEE OF THE QUARTER FOR THE THIRD QUARTER OF THIS YEAR.
EMPLOYEES ARE NOMINATED FROM OTHER CITY EMPLOYEES AND THE RECIPIENT IS SELECTED BY THE EMPLOYEE OF QUARTER COMMITTEE, WHICH IS MADE UP OF PEER EMPLOYEES REPRESENTED FROM A CROSS-SECTION OF DEPARTMENTS AND PRIOR EMPLOYEE OF THE QUARTER RECIPIENTS.
I AM PLEASED TO PRESENT THE EMPLOYEE OF THE THIRD QUARTER, ANGELA STROTMAN, KNOWN AS ANGEL ANGEL, HAS BEEN WITH THE CITY FOR APPROXIMATELY SIX AND A HALF YEARS, STARTING IN MAY OF 2015 AS AN ANIMAL SHELTER TECHNICIAN.
JUST AFTER TWO YEARS, ANGEL WAS PROMOTED TO THE ANIMAL SHELTER ADMINISTRATOR POSITION.
BUT PRIOR TO THAT, SHE HAD JOINED THE CITY AS A VOLUNTEER IN OUR ANIMAL SHELTER WITH OVER 2000 VOLUNTEER HOURS IN ONE YEAR.
ANGEL WAS NOMINATED FOR HER DEDICATION AND TIRELESS EFFORTS IN THE ANIMAL SERVICES DIVISION.
SHE IS CREDITED WITH HAVING A DIRECT IMPACT TO OUR INCREASED ADOPTION RATE.
SHE SCOURS WEB SITES DAILY TO REUNITE FAMILIES WITH THEIR PETS.
ANGEL ALSO SPENDS A LOT OF TIME TALKING WITH DIFFERENT RESCUE GROUPS TO PLACE ANIMALS.
ANGEL ATTENDS ALL OF OUR OFFSITE ADOPTION EVENTS AND IS THE PRIMARY PERSON WITH THE MOST CITIZEN ENGAGEMENT IN ANIMAL SERVICES.
SOME MAY NOT REALIZE THE EMOTIONAL NATURE OF WORKING IN ANIMAL SERVICES, BUT IT CAN TAKE ITS TOLL.
DESPITE THOSE HARD DAYS, ANGEL CONTINUES TO PROVIDE A DEEP LEVEL OF COMPASSION AND CARE TO ANYONE THAT WALKS IN THE DOOR.
SO PLEASE HELP US CONGRATULATE ANGEL STROTMAN AS OUR EMPLOYEE OF THE QUARTER [APPLAUSE] ANGEL.
AND SHE HAS SOME FAMILY WITH HER, I DO.
YOU ALL WANT TO COME UP AND JOIN ANGEL FOR A PICTURE?
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MAYOR AND COUNCIL THAT BRINGS US AN ITEM 2C COMMUNITY INTEREST ITEMS,[C. Community Interest Items This is a standing item on the agenda of every regular meeting of the City Council. An "item of community interest" includes the following: expressions of thanks, congratulations, or condolence; information regarding holiday schedules; honorary recognitions of city officials, employees, or other citizens; reminders about upcoming events sponsored by the city or other entity that is scheduled to be attended by city official or city employee; and announcements involving imminent public health and safety threats to the city.]
COUNCIL.[INAUDIBLE] THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT HAS OPENED UP TICKETS TO THE PROJECT U LEADERSHIP CONFERENCE.
I DON'T KNOW THE DATE, FORGIVE ME, BUT I JUST WANT TO REMIND EVERYONE TO GO ONLINE, TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND GET YOUR TICKETS.
THEY HAVE SOME AMAZING SPEAKERS, AND I KNOW THIS IS GOING TO BE REALLY, REALLY GOOD FOR OUR CITY, GOOD DEAL.
JIMMY, PIGGYBACK ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, THERE'S THE B SHOP LOCAL [INAUDIBLE] CHALLENGE.
SO IF YOU EAT OR BUY SOMETHING OR DO SOMETHING LOCAL AND YOU GET YOUR RECEIPT, YOU CAN SUBMIT IT.
AND I BELIEVE THEY DRAW FOR GIFT CARDS FROM LOCAL VENDORS, EATERIES, ALL KINDS OF PLACES EVERY FRIDAY.
SO DON'T FORGET TO GET THOSE RECEIPTS SUBMITTED AND THANKS FOR SUPPORTING LOCAL.
OK, THAT MOVES US ON TO SECTION 3, CHANGES TO THE POSTED AGENDA 3A.
[3. CHANGES TO POSTED AGENDA]
IS ITEMS TO BE CONTINUED OR WITHDRAWN AND 3B IS ITEMS TO BE WITHDRAWN FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR A SEPARATE DISCUSSION OR ITEMS TO BE ADDED TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.IF AN ITEM IS TO BE ADDED TO THE CONSENT AGENDA FROM THE REGULAR AGENDA THAT REQUIRES A MOTION AND A SECOND AND A VOTE TO BE PLACED ON THERE.
COUNCIL, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT IN THE INTEREST OF TIME TONIGHT, WE HAVE SOME RATHER IMPORTANT MATTERS LATE IN THE AGENDA THAT I WANT US TO ALL BE FRESH ENOUGH TO CONSIDER.
TO THAT END, I'D LIKE TO ADD 7A THROUGH 7G AND ALSO 7J TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.
IF YOU'LL USE YOUR VOTING SYSTEM, JAMES, IF YOU'LL TURN THE VOTING ON FOR THEM, PLEASE THERE WE GO.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS? OK, YOU HAVE A MOTION.
I HAVE A MOTION BY DAN AND A SECOND BY JIMMY.
THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM, I'M SORRY, SECTION 4
[4. CITIZEN APPEARANCES Other than public hearings and items listed on the posted agenda, citizens in attendance who desire to speak to City Council may speak during this section. Speakers in attendance: Each person will be allowed three (3) minutes to speak and will not be interrupted by City Council or staff. If you would like to speak, please fill out a speaker card and give the completed card to the City Secretary prior to addressing City Council. Speakers not in attendance: Each person must fill out an online speaker card. Online speaker cards will be for items posted on the agenda only and must be submitted 30 minutes prior to the posted start time of the meeting. Online speaker cards will be read aloud by the City Secretary at the time the item is presented. Online speaker cards can be found on the city’s website, www.burlesontx.com on the agenda/notices page. Please note that City Council may only take action on items posted on the agenda. The Texas Open Meetings Act prohibits the City Council from deliberating or taking action on an item not listed on the agenda. City Council may, however, receive your comments on the unlisted item, ask clarifying questions, respond with facts, and explain policy.]
CITIZENS APPEARANCE OTHER THAN PUBLIC HEARINGS AND ITEMS LISTED ON THE POSTED AGENDA, CITIZENS IN ATTENDANCE WHO DESIRE TO SPEAK TO THE CITY COUNCIL MAY SPEAK DURING THIS SESSION.EACH SPEAKER WILL BE ALLOWED THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
PLEASE FILL OUT A SPEAKER CARD AND GIVE THE COMPLETED CARD TO MYSELF.
IF NOT, THERE'S SPEAKERS NOT IN ATTENDANCE.
THEY ARE ALLOWED TO FILL OUT AN ONLINE SPEAKER CARD, WHICH MUST BE SUBMITTED 30 MINUTES PRIOR TO THE POSTED START TIME OF THE MEETING.
AT THIS TIME, I HAVE NO ONLINE SPEAKER CARDS, BUT I DO HAVE SEVERAL SPEAKER CARDS FOR MEMBERS IN THE AUDIENCE.
AND MR. BENNETT, IF YOU WILL PLEASE COME HERE TO THIS PODIUM TO MY RIGHT HERE, RIGHT HERE.
AND IF YOU WILL STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
DANIEL BENNETT 408 PEMBERTON, WHITE SETTLEMENT.
I'M HERE TONIGHT TO SPEAK ABOUT YOUR CONSENT AGENDA ITEM N WAS HOPING THAT YOU WOULD PULL THAT FOR FURTHER CONSIDERATION.
IT'S THE APPRAISAL PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE.
I UNDERSTAND YOUR CASTING, YOUR VOTES FOR MR. LEYMAN AND BASED ON MY CALCULATIONS, THERE'S ELEVEN CANDIDATES AND I FEEL MR. LEYMAN WILL PROBABLY COME IN EIGHTH AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS COUNCIL CAST THEIR BALLOTS FOR SOMEBODY THAT WILL BUILD UPON THE BOARD TONIGHT.
MR. GILLEY, ROCKIE GILLEY IS HERE, IS A RETIRED INDIVIDUAL.
HE'S AN IT PRINCIPAL AND HE HAS THE TIME FOR THE BOARD.
I THINK AT THIS JUNCTURE, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE ADD DIFFERENT EXPERTISE TO THE
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BOARD.RIGHT NOW WE HAVE AN HR EXPERT.
WE HAVE ENGINEER WHO HAS CRITICAL THINKING AND WE NEED AT THIS JUNCTURE.
I BELIEVE SOMEONE WITH A GREAT DEAL OF IT EXPERIENCE.
AND I WON'T GO INTO HIS NARRATIVE.
I DON'T WANT TO STEAL HIS THUNDER.
I JUST RATHER SEE YOU BETTER USE YOUR VOTE TONIGHT.
NOW, MR. GARY LOSADA, HE HAS PROPERTY EXPERIENCE.
HE'S ONE OF THE OTHER OPTIONS THAT I AGREE WITH.
HE SPENT SIX YEARS ON THE ARB CHAIR AND PANEL.
HE HAS DIRECT CONTACT WITH THE PUBLIC AND TAX MATTERS AND APPRAISAL MATTERS FROM 2009 TO 2015.
SO I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
AND MAYOR FLETCHER, THANK YOU FOR BEING SO GRACIOUS OUT THERE TO REMEMBER ME.
THE MAYOR TOLD ME TO GO DOWN AND SPEAK IT.
I WAS GOING TO SPEAK, BUT HE HAD LIKE A FIVE HOUR AGENDA WORKSHOP AND I WENT DOWN AND ATE AT THE LOCAL PANCAKE SHOP AND CAME BACK AND SPOKE.
AND I LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR THAT.
SO AT THIS TIME, I'LL CALL FORWARD ROCKIE GILLEY, MR. GILLEY IF YOU'LL PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, FOR THE RECORD.
GOOD EVENING, MY NAME IS ROCKIE GILLEY.
I LIVE AT 220 SOUTH DICK PRICE ROAD, KENNEDALE, TEXAS.
AND I WOULD HUMBLY ASK TO THAT.
YOU ALL CONSIDER CONSENT ITEM N AND CONSIDER REMOVING THAT FROM THE CONSENT ITEM AGENDA AND VOTING ON IT SEPARATELY.
YOU'RE ALLOCATED FIVE VOTES FOR THE PAD DIRECTORSHIP, AND I'M HERE HUMBLY TO ASK YOU FOR SOME OF THOSE VOTES.
I'M NOT CURRENTLY BEHOLDING TO ANY ORGANIZATION OR ANY CITY.
CURRENTLY, I HAVE IN THE PAST BUT HAVE NOT IN A NUMBER OF YEARS.
I UNDERSTAND THE TAX APPRAISALS DISTRICT.
I UNDERSTAND THE BASICS OF THEIR SOFTWARE, AND I RECENTLY RETIRED AFTER OVER 40 YEARS IN THE IT INDUSTRY.
ALSO, BURLESON ONLY A SMALL PART OF YOUR CITY IS IN TARRANT COUNTY, BUT THAT SMALL PART IS ROUGHLY A BILLION DOLLARS ON THE TAX ROLLS.
AND I BELIEVE THAT EVERY CITY, EVERY CITIZEN, NO MATTER THE SIZE OF THE ENTITY, DESERVES AN ACCURATE AND EFFICIENT TAX APPRAISAL SYSTEM AND CERTIFIED ROLE.
AND I THINK WITH MY BACKGROUND, I CAN BRING SOMETHING TO THE BOARD THAT IT CURRENTLY DOES NOT HAVE.
AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH TONIGHT FOR LISTENING TO ME, AND IT WAS GOOD TO COME DOWN TO BURLESON AND SEE Y'ALL VERY, VERY NICE CITY HALL.
I HAVE ONE MORE SPEAKER, AND THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO ASKING THE COUNCIL IF YOU WANTED TO REMOVE SOMETHING FROM CONSENTS.
LET ME CALL THE NEXT SPEAKER UP IS PHILIP SANDERS.
HELLO, COUNCIL, I'M PHILIP SANDERS.
I RESIDE AT 900 WARBLER COURT IN BURLESON, TEXAS.
I'M ASKING FOR A CHANGE IN THE CITY, ORDINANCES WITH RVS PARKING IN THE STREET.
I GUESS I DIDN'T MAKE THE COUNCIL MEETING WHERE IT DID CHANGE, BUT PREVIOUSLY I'VE BEEN HERE OVER 20 YEARS AND IT WAS THREE DAYS.
I'VE ENCOUNTERED A PROBLEM WITH MINE AND WHEN I TRAVEL QUITE A BIT, ESPECIALLY NOW THAT I'VE RETIRED AND IT'S JUST NOT PRACTICAL TO BE ABLE TO PULL UP AND LOAD YOUR STUFF AND LEAVE.
THERE'S A LOT MORE TO IT, AND ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING AND YOU COME IN LATE, YOU YOU WANT TO GO TO BED AND THEN YOU UNLOAD YOUR STUFF THE NEXT DAY AND TAKE IT BACK TO WHERE IT GOES.
THAT'S WHAT WAS IN THIS ORDINANCE PREVIOUSLY, AND IT IS NOT NOW.
AND I'D LIKE TO TAKE I WOULD LIKE YOU ALL TO CHANGE IT BACK TO THREE DAYS MAX OF THREE DAYS.
I THINK THAT'S VERY REASONABLE.
ANY QUESTIONS? SO TONIGHT, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, BEFORE WE TAKE UP CONSENT AGENDA, WE DO HAVE A NEED TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION, BUT AT THIS TIME, GIVEN THE TWO SPEAKERS THAT CAME BEFORE
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YOU.IS THERE AN ITEM SINCE WE JUST ADDED AN ITEM TO THE CONSENT AGENDA? IS THERE AN ITEM YOU GUYS WOULD LIKE TO REMOVE FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA THAT DOES NOT REQUIRE A MOTION OR A SECOND THAT JUST REQUIRES ONE COUNCIL MEMBER TO ASK IT TO BE REMOVED? I'D LIKE TO REMOVE N, YES MA'AM.
SO MAYOR AND COUNCIL AT THIS TIME WE'LL BE REMOVING 7N FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR A SEPARATE DISCUSSION WHEN WE TAKE UP THE CONSENT AGENDA, ALRIGHT.
SO AT THIS TIME, WE DO HAVE A NEED FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION.
[10. RECESS INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION Pursuant to Section 551.071, Texas Government Code, the Council reserves the right to convene in Executive Session(s), from time to time as deemed necessary during this meeting for any posted agenda item, to receive advice from its attorney as permitted by law. Pending or Contemplated Litigation or to Seek the Advice of the City Attorney Pursuant to Section 551.071 Facilities Use Agreement with the Burleson Youth Association City of Burleson, Texas v. Chesapeake Exploration, LLC, et al., Cause No. MDL No. 96-000003-15, 96th District Court, Tarrant County, Texas Discussion Regarding Possible Purchase, Exchange, Lease, or Value of Real Property Pursuant to Section 551.072 Deliberation regarding a negotiated contract for a prospective gift or donation to the state or the governmental body Pursuant to Section 551.073 Personnel Matters Pursuant to Section 551.074 Appointment of Members to Final Decision-Making Boards and Commissions Deliberation regarding (1) the deployment, or specific occasions for implementation of security personnel or devices; or (2) a security audit Pursuant to Sec. 551.076 Deliberation Regarding Commercial or Financial Information Received from or the Offer of a Financial or Other Incentive made to a Business Prospect Seeking to Locate, Stay or Expand in or Near the Territory of the City and with which the City is conducting Economic Development Negotiations Pursuant to Section 551.087 Pursuant to Sec. 418.0183(f), deliberation of information related to managing emergencies and disasters including those caused by terroristic acts (must be tape recorded)]
JUST GIVE ME A MOMENT HERE.SO PURSUANT TO SECTION FIVE FIVE ONE POINT ZERO SEVEN ONE OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, THE COUNCIL RESERVES THE RIGHT TO CONVENE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FROM TIME TO TIME AS DEEMED NECESSARY DURING THIS MEETING FOR ANY POSTED ITEM TO RECEIVE ADVICE FROM THE ATTORNEY AS PERMITTED BY LAW.
AT THIS TIME, THIS COUNCIL NEEDS TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO SECTION FIVE FIVE ONE POINT ZERO SEVEN ONE, FIVE FIVE ONE POINT ZERO SEVEN TWO, FIVE FIVE ONE POINT ZERO SEVEN THREE, FIVE FIVE ONE POINT ZERO SEVEN FOUR, FIVE FIVE ONE POINT ZERO SEVEN SIX, AND FIVE FIVE ONE POINT EIGHT SEVEN ZERO EIGHT SEVEN.
I HAVE A MOTION BY DAN, THE SECOND BY VICTORIA.
WE'RE GOING TO CONVENE TO SESSION AT 5:51.
WE'RE GOING TO RETURN TO SESSION AT 6:40 THIS TIME WE'LL NEED A MOTION AND A VOTE FOR RECONVENING INTO OPEN SESSION.
IS THERE A MOTION? NEED A SECOND? I GOT A MOTION FOR DAN AND A SECOND BY JIMMY.
[5. CONSENT AGENDA All items listed below are considered to be routine by the City Council and will be enacted with one motion. There will be no separate discussion of the items unless a Councilmember or citizen so requests, in which event the item will be removed from the consent agenda and considered in its normal sequence. Approval of the consent agenda authorizes the City Manager to implement each item in accordance with staff recommendations.]
OK MAYOR AND COUNCIL THAT BRINGS US TO SECTION 5, THE CONSENT AGENDA PREVIOUSLY STATED BEFORE THE CONSENT AGENDA NOW HAS INCLUDED ITEMS 5A THROUGH 5 I'M SORRY INCLUDES ITEMS 5A THROUGH 5M.WITH A REMOVAL OF 5N FOR SEPARATE CONSIDERATION AND 7A THROUGH 7G AND ITEM 7J AT THIS TIME.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER ITEMS THAT COUNCIL OR MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE WOULD LIKE REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA TO BE TAKEN UP IN ITS NORMAL SEQUENCE, OR ANY ITEMS THAT COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO ADD ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA BY MOTION AND VOTE? I'D LIKE TO MOVE ITEM 5B OFF THE CONSENT, PLEASE.
IS THERE A SECOND, THERE'S NO NEED FOR A VOTE ON REMOVING AN ITEM.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER CONSIDERATIONS? OK.
AT THIS TIME, ALL ITEMS LISTED ON CONSENT AGENDA ARE CONSIDERED TO BE ROUTINE BY CITY COUNCIL AND WILL BE ENACTED WITH ONE MOTION THAT CONSENT AGENDA CONSISTS OF ITEMS 5A THROUGH 5M.
5C THROUGH 5M REMOVAL OF 5N AND NOW INCLUDES ITEMS 7A THROUGH 7G AND ITEM 7J.
MAYOR, IF YOU COULD ASK FOR A MOTION, IS THERE A MOTION? I GOT A MOTION BY DAN AND A SECOND BY TAMARA.
OK AT THIS TIME, WE WILL TAKE UP ITEM 5B CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A MINUTE ORDER
[B. Consider approval of a minute order for appointments to city boards and commissions for 2021-2024 terms and vacancies. (Staff Contact: Amanda Campos, City Secretary)]
FOR APPOINTMENTS TO CITY BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS FOR THE 2021 2024 TERMS AND VACANCIES.I AM THE STAFF CONTACT FOR THIS ITEM.
IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL, I'D LIKE TO TABLE THIS ITEM.
JAMES, COULD YOU PUT UP A VOTE, PLEASE? DO I MAKE THE MOTION? YES, MA'AM.
IF YOU'LL HOLD ON A MINUTE COUNCIL [INAUDIBLE].
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YOUR MICROPHONE THANK YOU.I HAVE A MOTION BY VICTORIA AND A SECOND BY DAN, PLEASE VOTE.
NOW, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, WE WILL TAKE UP ITEM 5M THAT IS TO CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A
[N. Consider approval of a resolution casting votes for the election of members to the Tarrant County Central Appraisal District Board of Directors. (Staff Contact: Tommy Ludwig, Deputy City Manager) ]
RESOLUTION CASTING VOTES FOR THE ELECTION OF MEMBERS TO THE TARRANT COUNTY CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT BOARD OF DIRECTORS IN YOUR PACKET TONIGHT.THAT RECOMMENDATION WAS MIKE LEYMAN.
THE STAFF CONTACT IS TOMMY LUDWICK, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER.
SO THE ITEM BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING IS FOR CASTING VOTES FOR THE CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT FOR TARRANT COUNTY.
SO THOSE VOTES DO HAVE TO BE CAST ON OR BEFORE DECEMBER 15TH OF THIS YEAR.
THE CITY IS APPORTIONED FIVE VOTES.
THE CITY HAS THE ABILITY TO MAKE VOTES FOR ANYONE WHO IS A NOMINEE.
I'LL BE GLAD TO READ THOSE NOMINEES TO YOU.
YOU CAN MAKE A MOTION TO APPORTION ALL VOTES TO ONE CANDIDATE OR SPREAD THOSE AMONG FIVE INDIVIDUALS.
I WILL SAY THAT STAFF DOES HAVE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT WAS PROVIDED BY THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT'S BRIEF WRITE UPS ABOUT THE CANDIDATES, AND SO COUNCIL ALSO RESERVES THE RIGHT TO TABLE THIS ITEM AND TO CONSIDER IT FOR THE 13TH IF YOU NEED ADDITIONAL TIME AND YOU'D LIKE TO SEE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.
JIM AUSTIN, WESLEY BULLARD, RICK DEOTTE, ROCKIE GILLEY, JIM GRIFFIN, JUNGUS JORDAN, MIKE LEYMAN, GARY LOSADA, J.R.
MARTINEZ, TONY POMPA AND KATHRYN WILEMON.
AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS ITEM.
I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE THIS ITEM.
AND YOU KNOW, WE WE GOT A STAFF RECOMMENDATION.
WE FOLLOWED DOING WHAT WE DID LAST TIME BY REPEATING THAT I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT ANY OF THE CANDIDATES, NEITHER THE ONE THAT WE'VE BEEN RECOMMENDED TO APPROVE OR THE ONE WHO HAS COME BEFORE US TONIGHT TO ASK TO BE RECONSIDERED.
THE ONLY LOGICAL ANSWER I CAN GIVE IS TO LET US SEE THE AGENDA, SEE THE INFO ON THEM AND MAKE A DECISION FOR OURSELVES.
WE COULD DO THAT NEXT MONTH'S MEETING AND SETTLE IT THEN.
MY MOVE, MY MOTION IS TO TABLE IT.
IS THERE A SECOND? PLEASE VOTE.
OK, WE'RE GOING TO GET LESS COMPLICATED HERE, HOPEFULLY.
SO WE'RE MOVING ON TO SECTION 6 DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS 6A IS 210 SOUTH
[A. 210 S Main Street located northwest of the W Eldred and S Main Street intersection (Case 20-101): Consider a Commercial Site Plan for Station 330 restaurant. (Staff Presenter: Michelle McCullough, Interim Director of Development Services) (The Planning and Zoning Commission recommended approval by a unanimous vote)]
MAIN STREET, LOCATED NORTHWEST OF WEST ELDRIDGE AND SOUTH MAIN STREET INTERSECTION.IT'S TO CONSIDER A COMMERCIAL SITE PLAN FOR STATION 330 RESTAURANT.
THE STAFF PRESENTER TONIGHT IS MICHELLE MCCULLOUGH, THE INTERIM DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
MY NAME IS MICHELLE MCCULLOUGH AND I AM FILLING IN AS INTERIM DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES FOR A LITTLE BIT UNTIL OUR DIRECTOR DOES JOIN SOON.
THE CASE BEFORE YOU TODAY IS A SITE PLAN FOR STATION T330.
I BELIEVE MOST OF YOU HAVE SEEN THIS BEFORE BECAUSE THEY CAME THROUGH WITH A SITE PLAN ZONING DISTRICT, BUT THIS SITS ON HALF AN ACRE, BASICALLY [INAUDIBLE] LOCATED AT 210 SOUTH MAIN STREET.
THE APPLICANT YOURANG LLC AND JOHN BEGGARLY WITH ABP ARCHITECTURE AND, AS I SAID, THE ITEM BEFORE YOU AS A SITE PLAN.
SO A LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION.
AS I MENTIONED, THIS DID COME BEFORE YOU FOR A ZONING CHANGE FOR A SITE PLAN DISTRICT WITH THE UNDERLYING BASE OF CENTRAL COMMERCIAL.
THE SUBJECT SITE PREVIOUSLY CONSISTED OF THREE SEPARATE PROPERTIES AND AMENDING PLAT WAS SUBMITTED TO STAFF FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL.
AND WHAT THAT EFFECTIVELY DID IS TURN THIS INTO ONE LOT.
SO WHAT THE SITE PLAN CONSISTS OF IS IT'S A PROPOSED RESTAURANT, APPROXIMATELY ELEVEN THOUSAND SQUARE FEET.
IT'S GOT A LARGE DINING AREA, OUTDOOR BAR AREA AND COVERED COURTYARD.
THE RESTAURANT USE IS ALLOWED BY THE SITE PLAN DISTRICT AND A TOTAL OF FIFTY NINE PARKING SPACES WILL BE CONSTRUCTED AS PART OF THIS DEVELOPMENT.
AS I MENTIONED, IT'S THE APPLICANT INTENDS INTENDS TO CONSTRUCT A RESTAURANT, AND THE DESIGN IS BASED ON EARLY 20TH CENTURY RAIL STATIONS.
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HERE'S A COUPLE OF THE RENDERINGS OF ALL THE SIDES.AND A COUPLE OF OTHER PHOTOS OF THEIR INSPIRATION.
THESE ARE THE BUILDING ELEVATIONS AND PART OF THE OLD TOWN DESIGN STANDARDS.
THE MATERIALS ARE UNRESTRICTED AS LONG AS THEY ARE USED IN A MANNER THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ARCHITECTURAL STYLE.
SO ALL FOUR SIDES OF THIS BUILDING HAS THE SAME MAKE UP OF MATERIALS NINETY FIVE PERCENT BRICK AND FIVE PERCENT CAST STONE.
SO I'M JUST GOING TO RUN THROUGH THESE.
SO THIS THIS ELEVATION HERE FACES MAIN STREET AT THE PARKING.
THIS IS THE NORTH ELEVATION AND THIS ONE FACES DALTON'S.
SOUTH ELEVATION, FACES ELDRIDGE, AND THIS FACES THE ALLEY.
THE LANDSCAPING WITH THE OLD TOWN STANDARDS REQUIRE IS I BELIEVE IT IS TWO HUNDRED SQUARE FEET OF LANDSCAPING FOR EVERY TWENTY PARKING SPACES.
SO IN THE PARKWAY, THEY ARE ONLY REQUIRED TO PROVIDE FIVE HUNDRED AND NINETY SQUARE FEET, BUT THEY ARE PROVIDING OVER FIFTEEN HUNDRED.
IN ADDITION, THEY ARE PROVIDING SUPPLEMENTAL LANDSCAPING THAT INCLUDES SHRUBBERY TWO ORNAMENTAL TREES AND SOME SEASONAL COLOR IN THE LANDSCAPE ISLAND.
AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THEY ARE PROVIDING A TOTAL OF FIFTY NINE.
THE SITE PLAN DISTRICT ORDINANCE DOES REQUIRE A MINIMUM OF FIFTY PARKING SPACES, WITH TWENTY FIVE OF THOSE ON SITE.
THEY ARE PROVIDING THE TWENTY FIVE AND PROVIDING NINE ADDITIONAL.
THESE ARE THE CONDITIONS OF THE SITE PLAN DISTRICT.
I'M NOT GOING TO READ THROUGH ALL OF THESE, BUT BASICALLY THE RESTAURANT USE IS ALLOWED BY RIGHT.
AND THIS IS OUR STANDARD CONFORMANCE TABLE.
THIS SITE IS IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE APPROVED ZONING.
WATER AND SANITARY SEWER IS PROVIDED BY THE CITY OF BURLESON, AND IT DOES EXIST SO THEY WILL NOT BE CONSTRUCTING ANY NEW WATER OR SEWER.
THEY WILL CONSTRUCT A VALLEY GUTTER THAT WILL HELP WITH THE DRAINAGE FOR THE ADDITIONAL STORMWATER RUNOFF TO ELDRIDGE.
AND THEN A TRAFFIC ASSESSMENT LETTER INDICATED THAT A TIA, A FULL TIA WAS NOT WARRANTED IN ACCORDANCE WITH OUR DESIGN MANUAL.
SO IN SUMMARY, WITH P&Z, THEY VOTED.
THEY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL UNANIMOUSLY.
THERE WAS NO DISCUSSION AND NO SPEAKERS, SO THE COUNCIL ACTION REQUESTED TONIGHT IS TO APPROVE THE SITE PLAN FOR STATION 330 RESTAURANT LOCATED NORTHWEST OF WEST ELDRIDGE AND SOUTH MAIN INTERSECTION CASE 20-101.
ANYBODY? I GUESS WE'RE READY TO VOTE.
MOTION, IF YOU CAN CALL FOR A MOTION, YES.
IS THERE A MOTION ON THIS? I GOT A MOTION BY JIMMY AND A SECOND BY TAMARA.
THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, THAT BRINGS US TO SECTION 7 GENERAL.
FIRST ITEM FOR CONSIDERATION IS GOING TO BE ITEM 7H.
[H. Consider approval of a construction contract with J.R. Stelzer Company for the Industrial Boulevard Ground Storage Tanks Rehabilitation project in the amount not to exceed $1,581,250.00. (Staff Presenter: Paul Mitchell, P.E., Public Works Assistant Director)]
CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT WITH J.R.STELZER COMPANY FOR THE INDUSTRIAL BOULEVARD GROUND STORAGE TANKS REHABILITATION PROJECTS SAY THAT FIVE TIMES FAST IN THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED ONE MILLION FIVE HUNDRED EIGHTY ONE THOUSAND TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY DOLLARS.
STAFF PRESENTER IS PAUL MITCHELL, PUBLIC WORKS ASSISTANT DIRECTOR, MR. MITCHELL.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
PAUL MITCHELL PUBLIC WORKS CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS.
TONIGHT, I'M BRINGING TO YOU THIS ITEM FOR CONSIDERATION FOR A CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT WITH J.R.
STELZER FOR INDUSTRIAL BOULEVARD GROUND STORAGE TANK REHABILITATION.
SO BACK IN 2019, WE HAD A CONSULTANT LOOK AT ALL OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE, ALL OF OUR TANKS ACROSS THE CITY TO DELIVER WATER TO OUR CUSTOMERS AND DID AN EVALUATION OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE.
ANNUALLY WE DO INSPECT THEM ANYWAY, BUT WE KNEW THIS THESE TANKS HAD SOME ISSUES.
THEY WERE BUILT IN, I THINK 85 AND 95 AND WE'VE BEEN RECODED ONE TIME IN 2007, WHICH YOU KNOW, OF COURSE, INVOLVES, YOU KNOW, DE-WATERING THE TANKS AND AND BLASTING THEM AND REPAINTING THEM SO THAT LAST TIME WAS DONE IN 2007 ON THE ASSESSMENT OF THE
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INFRASTRUCTURE.THESE TANKS IN PARTICULAR HAD STRUCTURAL ISSUES WE KNEW ABOUT.
WE WANT TO DOCUMENT THEM AND GET RECOMMENDATIONS ON THEIR THEIR REPAIR, AND BOTH OF THEM HAD INTERIOR AND EXTERIOR LADDERS THAT WERE NOT MEETING OSHA STANDARDS.
EXTERIOR COATINGS WERE RECOMMENDED AND INTERIOR COATINGS.
OF COURSE, THAT'S TYPICAL, WHICH WOULD REQUIRE SHROUDING BECAUSE THERE'S ADJACENCY OF CAR DEALERSHIP TO THE NORTH AND OTHER PROPERTIES THAT ARE REALLY CLOSE TO THIS PROJECT AND ALSO RECOMMENDED VARIOUS OTHER DEFICIENCIES TO BE IMPROVED ON THOSE TANKS.
THESE TWO TANKS, IN PARTICULAR, SUPPLY A VAST MAJORITY OF OUR CUSTOMERS IN THE LOWER PRESSURE PLANE, SO THAT'S A LARGE PERCENTAGE OF BURLESON THAT'S SUPPLIED BY THESE TANKS.
DON'T LET THE PICTURES SCARE YOU.
SO BY THE NUMBERS, BUT THEY ARE BAD, NO DOUBT.
IS THAT THOSE PICTURES FROM 2019? THAT IS CORRECT.
LIKE FOR THIS WHERE IT SHOWS THIS INTERIOR LADDER, IT'S ALL RUSTED.
THERE'S WATER IN THAT TANK RIGHT NOW.
SO BY THE NUMBERS, BRITTA FILTERS, THERE YOU GO.
I DO WANT TO ASK THE QUESTION IS THIS TYPICAL FOR US TO HAVE THIS KIND OF APPEARANCE INSIDE THESE TANKS? I MEAN, I KNOW THE THE PROPOSAL HERE WAS DRAWN UP WITH THE PURPOSE OF HIGHLIGHTING WHY WE NEED TO DO THE WORK.
BUT WHY DO WE GET IT LIKE THIS BEFORE WE ARE THINKING ABOUT DOING THE WORK? AREN'T WE WELL PAST THE POINT WHERE THIS ACTION SHOULD HAVE ALREADY BEEN TAKEN BEFORE WE HAD THIS RUST? AND YOU KNOW, THESE RUSTY LADDERS YOU SEE INSIDE THE TANK ARE ACTUALLY GOING DOWN INTO THE WATER THAT WE DRINK? YEAH, AND PERHAPS THAT'S FINE.
THAT MAY BE AN INDUSTRY STANDARD.
IT MAY BE PERFECTLY NORMAL IN A WATER SYSTEM, BUT IT ISN'T VERY ENCOURAGING TO SEE IT IN OURS.
IT'S VERY COMMON IN THESE STEEL TANKS, BUT TO THIS LEVEL, PROBABLY THIS IS THE TIME TO DO IT.
I THINK IT MAY BE PAST THE TIME.
IT'S ALL I'M SAYING AND WE DO HAVE OTHER STORAGE FACILITIES.
AND THAT'S THAT'S WHY WE'RE ASKING TO DO IT.
LIKE WHAT IS YOU SAID THE LAST TIME IT WAS COATED WAS 2007.
IS THERE USUALLY LIKE A TIMELINE WHEN WE SHOULD BE REVISITING THESE ABOUT 20 YEARS? AND ONE OF THE ISSUES WE HAD ON THIS TANK, IN PARTICULAR, THAT MIDDLE PICTURE OR IT SAYS THE VENT REMOVED IS THE DOLLAR PLATE WHERE AND THAT'S LOOKING FROM INSIDE UP AT THE TOP OF THE TANK WHERE THOSE STRUCTURAL MEMBERS COME TOGETHER.
IT'S GOOD FOR CONSTRUCTING A TANK STRUCTURALLY, AND IT'S IT'S FINE.
IT'S DIFFICULT TO REHAB BASICALLY OR TO BLAST BECAUSE OF ALL THE TIGHT SPACES AND DIFFICULT TO PAINT.
YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU HAVE ALL THOSE TIGHT SPACES WITH A GUN AND COAT EVERYTHING.
AND SO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO DO ON THE REHAB IS TO REVISE THAT WHAT'S CALLED A DOLLAR PLATE AND MAKE IT TO WHERE IT'S EASILY TO ACCESS AND PAINT AND COAT.
SO A LOT OF THESE AREAS THAT LIKE THAT FALLEN BEAM OR THAT BEAM TOUCHES THE CEILING OF THE TANK, IT'S YOU CAN'T BLAST WHERE THE TWO SURFACES MEET.
SO THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF WORK TO GET THAT BLASTED AND RECODED TO WHERE THAT RUST ACTUALLY STARTS IN THAT AREA.
BUT YOU'RE RIGHT, IT IS ESPECIALLY IN THAT DOLLAR PLATE AREA.
OF COURSE, THE THE STEEL LADDER DOES GET A LOT OF EXPOSURE TO THE ELEMENTS AND TO THE WATER CONSTANTLY.
IT REALLY NEEDS THAT ONE IS PROBABLY PREMATURE.
ARE THERE OPTIONS THAT ARE NOT STEEL.
OSHA HAS A LOT OF STRICT REQUIREMENTS ON THE ON THE LADDERS.
ONE OF THE THE PROBLEMS WITH THESE LADDERS, THE RUNGS AREN'T GNARLED FOR SAFETY.
THEY GET SLICK WHEN THEY'RE WET AND I WASN'T BRAVE ENOUGH TO GO DOWN IT, BUT IT'S A LITTLE BIT HAIRY.
BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S AN ALTERNATE I COULD FIND OUT.
THAT WAS GOING TO BE MY QUESTION.
COULD WE GO WITH A STAINLESS OPTION ALONG THESE LINES? NO ONE HAS STAINLESS TENDS TO NOT RUST IN THE SAME WAY, THAT I COULD FIND OUT.
SO THIS WAS I SEE THAT IT WAS APPROVED IN THE 2020 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN AND IT'S FULLY FUNDED.
SO WAS IT SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN THIS YEAR OR WAS IT SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN EARLIER? AND I'M WONDERING IF WE FUNDED IT, IF WE BECAUSE IT WAS FUNDED AND VOTED ON IN 2020, WHAT PUSHED IT OFF? OTHER THAN THE PANDEMIC, WHICH WE KNOW THAT COULD BE THE EXCUSE FOR EVERYTHING, RIGHT? YEAH THERE WERE OTHER PROJECTS THAT KIND OF HAD PRIORITY IN FRONT OF THIS ONE.
BUT YEAH, THE PANDEMIC DOES HAVE AN EFFECT ON THE ON A LOT OF THINGS.
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I REALLY HAVE A GOOD ANSWER FOR THAT OTHER THAN IN PRIORITY IT WAS WE NEEDED TO GET A HELP TO GET THOSE PROJECTS OUT TO BID BASICALLY.IS THE CONTRACTOR READY TO GO TO WORK.
I THINK THE CONTRACT TIME ALLOWS HIM TO FINISH IT WITHIN OUR LOW USAGE TIMES.
BUT IS HE READY TO BEGIN THE WORK? YES, SIR.
WE'VE BEEN IN TALKS WITH HIM ABOUT THE TIMELINE HAS TO FIT IN THIS WINDOW, RIGHT? AND I THINK ACTUALLY, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, THE LAST TIME WE WERE GETTING READY TO LET THIS PROJECT THAT WE WERE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO HIT THAT WINDOW, SO IT POSTPONED IT A YEAR.
BUT YES, WE THE TIMELINE IS CRITICAL AND WE HAVE DISCUSSED THAT WITH THIS CONTRACTOR, AND THAT'S PART OF THE REASON FOR THE SELECTION OF THIS CONTRACTOR.
HOW DO YOU MANAGE WATER FLOW TO OUR RESIDENTS? HOW DO WE MANAGE THE WATER FLOW? HOW DO WE KEEP THEM IN WATER WHILE WE'RE DOING THESE THINGS? VERY GOOD QUESTION.
WE DO HAVE CONTINGENCIES ON THIS WHEN THESE TANKS GET PULLED OUT, AND THAT'S ANOTHER REASON FOR THE SELECTION OF THIS CONTRACTOR.
THEY HAD A VERY GOOD PLAN AND THEIR APPLICATION ABOUT HOW TO DO THAT.
AND WHEN WE OPENED UP THEIR PROPOSED STRATEGY ON DOING THIS.
IT ALIGNED WITH OURS VERY WELL AND THEY HAD PUT SOME THOUGHT INTO IT.
AND WE DO HAVE OTHER TANKS THAT SUPPLY THIS.
THERE'S THE HUMAN PUMP STATION, THAT PUMPS FROM THE CITY OF FORT WORTH DIRECTLY.
IT'S ALSO THE REASON WHY WE'RE PICKING THIS PROJECT IN THE WINTER MONTHS.
THERE'S MUCH LESS WATER USAGE AND SO WE CAN TAKE THOSE TANKS DOWN.
I BELIEVE IT WAS LAST WEEK WHERE WE DID NOT FILL THESE TANKS AND WE WENT JUST FINE ON ALL THE OTHER TANKS, EVEN IN THESE MONTHS.
THERE'S ALSO IF IN THE STRATEGY, WE'RE NOT DOING BOTH OF THE TANKS AT THE SAME TIME, NOT DE-WATERING BOTH AT THE SAME TIME, SO WE CAN FILL ONE OF THESE TANKS WITH THE BACKUP GENERATOR WHILE THE POWER'S DOWN AND I CAN GO OVER THAT IN A MINUTE.
THERE'S A POWER LINE JUST TO THE NORTH THAT IT'S IN THE BORDER BETWEEN THESE TANKS AND THE CAR DEALERSHIP.
AND WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT IT, IT'S FAIRLY CLOSE.
THERE'S AN EASEMENT RIGHT THERE IN THE SHROUD THAT'S GOING TO GO AROUND.
THESE TANKS STICKS OUT, RIGHT? IT'S LIKE A SHEET THAT GOES OVER THE TANKS WHEN THEY'RE BLASTING AND PAINTING TO KEEP THAT DRIFT FROM GOING ONTO CARS OR ANY OTHER PROPERTIES AROUND THERE.
IT'S ALSO VERY DANGEROUS FOR A WORKER TO BE NEAR THE POWER LINE AT THAT ELEVATION.
IT'S 30 FOOT HIGH POWER LINES RIGHT THERE.
WE WANT THE WORKERS TO BE SAFE.
AND SO WE WANTED SOMEBODY WITH AN EXPERIENCE AND THEY HAD A PLAN OF HOW TO DO THAT THAT WE COULD TRUST.
THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT PAINT AND THERE'S THERE'S A SMALLER SELECTION OF PEOPLE THAT PAINT WELL AND SAFELY.
BUT YES, SIR, THERE'S THAT ISSUE WITH THE SHROUD AND THE POWER LINE.
SO FOR FUTURE ON THESE TANKS, WHAT HOW OFTEN DO WE REPAINT THEM AND HOW OFTEN ARE WE CHECKING THIS SO THAT WE DON'T POTENTIALLY GET TO THIS LEVEL OF EROSION AGAIN? YES, WE FEEL LIKE THIS TANK THESE TANKS FAIL PREMATURELY.
THE LIFE CYCLE IS SUPPOSED TO BE 20 TO 25 YEARS.
WE DO INSPECT THEM EVERY YEAR, AND I THINK WHAT WE SHOULD DO WITH THE FUTURE IS TO MAYBE RAISE THE FLAG A LITTLE SOONER.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO ON? OKAY, SO BY THE NUMBERS, WE HAD COMPETITIVE, SEALED PROPOSALS, THAT'S SOME OF THE REASONS I WAS EXPLAINING EARLIER SOME OF THE REASONS WHY WE WANTED TO NOT ONLY LOOK AT THE PRICE, BUT THE QUALIFICATIONS.
SO THESE PROPOSALS HAD, LIKE I SAID, A PLAN.
WE REQUESTED A PLAN BY THAT CONTRACTOR OF HOW THEY WERE GOING TO GET THE WORK DONE WITHIN OUR TIME FRAME.
AND THERE ARE OTHER QUALIFICATIONS OR REFERENCES, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.
WE RECEIVED EIGHT PROPOSALS ON THIS.
WE HAD OUR LOWEST BID AT ONE MILLION AND THE HIGHEST BID AT ONE POINT NINE.
AND OF COURSE, WE HAD A CONSTRUCTION TIME RESTRICTION AS WELL FOR 150 CALENDAR DAYS TO FIT IN OUR LOWEST WATER USAGE TIME FRAME.
BY DOING THAT, WE WEIGHTED THEIR QUALIFICATIONS 40 PERCENT VERSUS 60 PERCENT ON THE PRICE BECAUSE PRICE STILL MATTERS A GREAT DEAL, AND J.R.
STELZER CAN'T SAY IT RIGHT CAME OUT ON TOP.
BUT BY FAR HAD ONE OF THE BEST APPLICATIONS AND REFERENCES WE THAT WE FOUND AND THE PRICE WAS WITHIN OUR BUDGET.
SO WE WERE HAPPY TO GET SO MANY BIDS, BUT THEY CAME HIGHLY RECOMMENDED AS WELL FROM THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS.
IS EVERYBODY USING THE SAME COATING OR ARE THEY [INAUDIBLE] OUT THE COATINGS? AND WHAT'S THE PROCESS? ARE THEY PRIMING OR IS IT ONE SHOT OR WHAT IT IS? THE TANKS ARE BLASTED WITH SAND, SAND OR AN ABRASIVE.
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ALL OF THAT IS REGULATED BY TCEQ, THE TEXAS COMMISSION ON ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY.SO THERE ARE SPECIFICATIONS FOR THIS PROJECT TO MEET THOSE CRITERIA'S.
ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE COATING THEY'RE USING? NO, SIR, NOT PARTICULARLY.
IT HAS TO MEET STATE REQUIREMENTS.
THAT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE KIND OF A RECOMMENDATION ON SOME OF THESE COATINGS THAT WE'RE USING BECAUSE YOU JUST SAID WHILE AGO THAT THIS WAS A PREMATURE FAILURE.
YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING.
SO IF YOU FOLLOW UP ON THAT, LET'S DON'T USE THE SAME JUNK AGAIN.
AND THE THICKNESS OF THE COATINGS AND EVERYTHING ARE REGULATED PART OF THE CONSULTANT'S CONTRACT THAT WE HAVE IS FOR A VERY SPECIALIZED INSPECTION OF THOSE COATINGS AS THEY'RE PUT ON.
THEY HAVE TO MEET CERTAIN THICKNESS REQUIREMENTS, MIDDLE THICKNESSES WHEN THEY COAT THEM.
ARE THEY GOING TO INCLUDE ANY KIND OF GUARANTEE OR WARRANTY, PERIOD? I DON'T WANT TO SEE A PREMATURE FAILURE.
WELL, TYPICALLY THEY'RE WARRANTED FOR TWO YEAR WARRANTY ON THE ON THE PROJECT ITSELF.
I'D HAVE TO LOOK TO THE CONTRACT AGAIN TO SEE IF WE HAVE ANYTHING LIKE 20 YEAR WARRANTY WOULD BE PRETTY TOUGH.
IT'S A PRETTY HAZARDOUS, CORROSIVE ENVIRONMENT.
I THINK SOME OF THE BEST THINGS WE CAN DO ARE THE THINGS WE'RE DOING WITH THE TANK AS FAR AS MAKING SURE THE SURFACES ARE COMPLETELY CLEAN BEFORE THEY'RE PAINTED.
I THINK A LOT OF THE DIFFICULTY WE HAD WERE ON THAT DOLLAR PLATE AREA.
OF COURSE, THE LADDER IS IN CONSTANT CONTACT WITH THE WATER AND IT FLUCTUATES.
SO YOU'VE GOT OPEN AIR AND VERY HUMID AIR WITH WITH THE LADDER MORE SO THAN WHAT'S SUBMERGED, SO WE CAN LOOK AT.
DEFINITELY LOOK AT THE THE LADDER, SEE IF THERE'S OPTIONS FOR THAT.
BUT THE DOLLAR PLATE IN PARTICULAR WAS, I THINK, VERY DIFFICULT LAST TIME TO TO COMPLETELY CLEAN AND REPAINT.
ANYBODY ELSE? SO JUST A SUMMARY OF ALL THE BIDS THAT WE RECEIVED.
JARED STELZER KIND OF CAME IN KIND OF A LITTLE BIT IN THE MIDDLE, A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
OUR BUDGET WAS TWO POINT ONE, OUR ESTIMATE, ACTUALLY.
SO WHERE WITH THE SITUATIONS WE HAVE WITH HAVING TO DO THIS IN A VERY FIXED TIMELINE.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
AND WITH THE WINTER WEATHER, ALL THOSE TYPES OF THINGS, WE MAY HAVE TO MAKE SPECIAL CONSIDERATIONS.
SO WE HAVE TO RUN THE GENERATOR FOR WAY LONGER THAN WE THOUGHT.
DIESEL IS NOT VERY CHEAP RIGHT NOW, AND THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS WE NEED TO DO.
SO WE'RE ASKING FOR A 50 PERCENT, 15 PERCENT CONTINGENCY WITH THIS CONTRACT TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS.
OF COURSE, WE DON'T WANT TO DO THAT IF WE HAVE TO, BUT LAST WINTER KIND OF SCHOOLED US ON A LOT OF CONTINGENCY ISSUES, BUT DEFINITELY LIKE THINGS LIKE THE LADDER AND THINGS, IF THERE'S ALTERNATES WE CAN, WE CAN DO CERTAINLY WOULD LOOK AT THAT DOING THAT.
JUST A BREAKDOWN OF THE PROJECT.
IN PARTICULAR, WE HAVE TWO TANKS, INTERIOR AND EXTERIOR KIND OF EVEN ON ALL FOUR OF THOSE OPTIONS AND A CONTINGENCY, OF COURSE, IN THERE.
SO AT THIS TIME, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE EITHER APPROVE OR DENY A CONTRACT.
ANY QUESTIONS QUESTIONS? I'LL LOOK FOR MOTIONS HERE.
I'VE GOT A SCREEN POPPED ON, Y'ALL ARE ALREADY DONE.
BOY, Y'ALL DIDN'T, AND YOU CAME IN SECOND TOO I GOT A MOTION BY VICTORIA AND A SECOND BY DAN, PLEASE VOTE.
PASSES UNANIMOUS, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.
AT THIS TIME, WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM 7I CONSIDER APPROVAL OF AN ORDINANCE
[I. Consider approval of an ordinance amending Section 14-240 “Food Trucks” of Article V, “Food and Food Establishments,” of Chapter 14 “Businesses" of the Code of Ordinances of the City of Burleson, by regulating the operation of food trucks (also known as mobile food units) at construction sites and manufacturing business sites and amending the “Exceptions” for food trucks at special events; providing a cumulative clause; repealing all ordinances or parts of ordinance in conflict herewith; providing severability clause; providing for inclusion in the code; finding and determining that the meeting at which this ordinance is passed is open to the public as required by law; providing for an effective date and publication; and providing for penalties. (First Reading)(Staff Presenter: Lisa Duello, Neighborhood Services Director)]
AMENDING SECTION 14-240 FOOD TRUCKS OF ARTICLE 5 FOOD, FOOD AND FOOD ESTABLISHMENTS OF CHAPTER 14 BUSINESSES OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCE BY REGULATING THE OPERATION OF FOOD TRUCKS, ALSO KNOWN AS MOBILE FOOD UNITS.I DID NOT KNOW THAT, AT CONSTRUCTION SITES AND MANUFACTURING BUSINESS SITES AND AMENDING THE EXCEPTION FOR FOOD TRUCKS AT SPECIAL EVENTS.
THIS IS BEFORE YOU ON FIRST READING.
THE STAFF PRESENTER IS LISA DUELLO, NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES DIRECTOR, MS. DUELLO.
GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL [INAUDIBLE].
AS MOST OF YOU KNOW, I WAS HERE IN JULY AT A WORK SESSION DISCUSSING THIS ORDINANCE AMENDMENT TOOK SOME DIRECTION FROM YOU.
SO WE'RE HERE TONIGHT FOR OUR FIRST READING WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS.
SO JUST A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND.
I'M NOT GOING TO GO INTO EXTENT THAT I DID DURING THE WORK SESSION, BUT AS YOU KNOW, IN 2019, WE AMENDED THE CODE CHAPTER 14 TO ALLOW A FOOD TRUCK PARKS AND FOOD TRUCK OPERATION SITES.
AND WHEN WE MADE THOSE AMENDMENTS, THE REGULATIONS BASICALLY CUT OUT FOOD TRUCKS
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OPERATING AT CONSTRUCTION SITES AND MANUFACTURING SITES.AND WE HAD A TRUCK THAT WAS OPERATING AND WE FOUND THEM IN VIOLATION.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, IT WAS A REASONABLE REQUEST TO AMEND THE ORDINANCE.
SO I DO WANT TO REPORT THAT WE HAVE A VERY FIRST PERMITTED FOOD TRUCK OPERATION SITE THAT JUST HAPPENED LAST WEEK.
SO BE ON THE LOOKOUT FOR THAT.
BUT SO BACK IN JULY, WE TALKED ABOUT DIFFERENT REGULATIONS AT CONSTRUCTION AND MANUFACTURING SITES AND A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WERE BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION THAT WE MADE ADJUSTMENTS.
WE DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE A LIMIT ON THE NUMBER OF FOOD TRUCKS AT CONSTRUCTION SITES.
SO THE ORDINANCE THAT I HAVE PRESENTED TONIGHT DOES NOT HAVE A LIMIT ON THAT AND THEN ALSO ALLOW FOOD TRUCKS TO OPERATE AT MANUFACTURING SITES THE SAME HOUR AS THE BUSINESS.
I HAD PROPOSED A ONE HOUR, SO THE ORDINANCE THAT I HAVE PRESENTED ALLOWS THEM TO OPERATE AT THE SAME TIME AT THE MANUFACTURING SITE AND THE A SMALL AMENDMENT THAT WE TALKED ABOUT WAS ALLOWING FOOD TRUCKS AT PRIVATE EVENTS THAT ARE NOT OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
SO WE MADE A MINOR ADJUSTMENT.
AS YOU MAY RECALL RIGHT NOW, THE WAY THE ORDINANCE IS WRITTEN, YOU HAVE TO GET TWO PERMITS IN ORDER TO OPERATE AT A TEMPORARY OR SPECIAL EVENT.
AND THIS AMENDMENT WILL ALLOW PRIVATE PEOPLE, PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT ARE NOT OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, SUCH AS HOAS THEY WILL NOT HAVE TO GET TWO PERMITS, JUST THE ONE PERMIT.
SO WITH THAT, A LOT OF THIS IS A LITTLE BIT OF A REPEAT.
THE ORDINANCE THAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR PACKET HAS THE FOLLOWING CRITERIA CRITERIA FOR FOOD TRUCKS AT CONSTRUCTION SITES.
EVERYBODY HAS TO MEET THE STATE REQUIREMENTS.
I'M NOT GOING TO REPEAT THOSE.
IT'S JUST COMMON THAT THEY HAVE TO HAVE ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS.
SO WE SAID THAT IF THEY'RE AT A CONSTRUCTION SITE, THEY HAVE TO OPERATE FOR ONE HOUR.
IT HAS TO BE IN CONSTRUCTION WITH A BUILDING PERMIT THAT CAN'T BE IN A FIRE LANE OR TRAVELING LANE OR REQUIRED PARKING.
THEY'VE GOT TO KEEP THE AREA CLEAN.
THEY HAVE TO THEY CAN'T OBSTRUCT ANY EMERGENCY AND OPERATIONS WHEN THEY PERMIT THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE US A ROUTE AND LET US KNOW WHERE THEY ARE AND THEY CAN BE LOCATED ON THE STREET WHEN THEY'RE OPERATING ON THE ON THE CONSTRUCTION SITES.
I JUST WANT TO ADD ONE THING THE INDIVIDUAL THAT HAD EMAILED YOU, I THINK BACK IN JUNE REGARDING THIS, I'VE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH HIM AND LET HIM KNOW THAT THESE ORDINANCES IS COMING BEFORE YOU TONIGHT, AND HE HAD NO ISSUES WITH IT OR ANYTHING SO.
AND NUMBER NINE THAT I HAVE HERE ON THE PRESENTATION.
THAT WAS ONE THING THAT WE HAD IN THE ORIGINAL ORDINANCE SO I DID STRIKE THAT.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE NOTE OF THAT.
SO THAT IS NOT IN THE ORDINANCE.
WHAT'S THE RATIONALE BEHIND REQUIRING A LEVEL PAVED OR GRAVEL SURFACE? IS THAT A HEALTH CODE REQUIREMENT? WELL, THEY HAVE WELL, YOU DON'T WANT TO GET IT STUCK.
NUMBER ONE, IF IT'S ON LIKE, YOU KNOW, IN THE GRASS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, THEY'LL LEAVE [INAUDIBLE].
IT NEEDS TO BE ON A, YOU KNOW, A SURFACE THAT CAN HOLD THE TRUCK.
THEY'RE PRETTY HEAVY VEHICLES.
SO YEAH MOST OF THEM WILL PARK IN THE STREET.
MY QUESTION IS DIRECTED TOWARDS THE THE POSSIBILITY THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN WHEN GRADING IS GOING ON A CONSTRUCTION SITE, THERE ARE NO LEVEL PAVED OR GRAVEL AND MAYBE LEVEL SURFACES, BUT THEY'RE PROBABLY NOT GRAVEL AND THEY'RE DEFINITELY NOT PAVED TO MAKE THAT REQUIREMENT.
THEN IT SEEMS WE'RE FORCING THE FOOD TRUCK OPERATION TO TAKE PLACE OUT ON THE PUBLIC STREET OR ON OTHER PRIVATE PROPERTY WHERE THEY MAY NOT BE AS WELCOMED.
DON'T UNDERSTAND THE LOGIC BEHIND REQUIRING THE SURFACE TO BE PAVED OR GRAVEL BECAUSE FREQUENTLY ON A ON A MASS EXCAVATION SITE OR A PROPERTY PREPARATION, OR REGRADING SITE SAY LIKE WHAT'S GOING ON UP AT THE NEW DEALERSHIP THAT'S BEING BUILT.
YOU KNOW, IT'S ALL A DIRT AREA.
SO IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A REQUIREMENT FOR PAVED SURFACE, THEN THAT TRUCK IS GOING TO HAVE TO PULL UP AND SIT ON THE SERVICE ROAD.
OR, YOU KNOW, HOW'S THAT GOING TO HAPPEN? WELL, I MEAN, IT TALKS ABOUT SAFE PEDESTRIAN ACCESS AND THAT, YOU KNOW.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'LL EVER BECOME AN ISSUE.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'LL EITHER TO BE HONEST WITH YOU BECAUSE I DON'T THINK A LOT OF THEM ARE GOING TO PULL UP IN AN AREA LIKE THAT BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE HARD TO GET OUT OF SOME AREAS IF THEY'RE NOT.
THE WORKERS WILL MAKE SURE THE FOOD TRUCK CAN GET IN THAT I WILL I ASSURE YOU FROM EXPERIENCE I WOULD LIKE TO I WOULD LIKE TO STRIKE THE WORDS PAVED OR GRAVEL.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE AN ISSUE.
WE'LL MAKE THE AMENDMENTS WHEN WE GO BACK.
I KNOW, YOU KNOW, CONSTRUCTION SITES WELL SO, I KNOW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT.
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HOW LONG DOES THAT LAST? IS THAT FOR AN ANNUAL PERMIT OR, WELL, IF IT'S A CONSTRUCTION SITE DEPENDS ON HOW LONG THE SITE IS.YOU KNOW, IF THEY'RE BUILDING A HOUSE UNTIL.
IF THERE'S HOUSES THAT ARE BEING BUILT IN A NEIGHBORHOOD, AS LONG AS THERE'S A PERMIT IN THE AREA WHERE THEY'RE SETTING UP, DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? THERE SHOULD BE A PERMIT ON FILE WITH THE BUILDING INSPECTIONS DEPARTMENT WHERE WHERE ADJACENT TO WHERE THEY'RE SETTING UP.
YEAH, IN THAT AREA, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE GUYS, THEY GO FROM HOUSE TO HOUSE OR A BUSINESS TO BUSINESS.
SO BEING, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IN PARTICULAR, A NEIGHBORHOOD.
BUT IF IF THEY'RE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD, THERE'S THERE'S GOING TO BE A BUILDING PERMIT IN A NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE HOUSES ARE BEING CONSTRUCTED.
SO THEY GET THEIR FOOD PARK, THEIR TRUCK PERMIT BASED ON THAT PERMIT.
WELL, THAT'S WHY THAT'S WHY WE'RE ASKING FOR THE ROUTE AND THEIR ITINERARY TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE IN AREAS THAT ARE WHERE THERE'S CONSTRUCTION GOING ON.
OK, SO YEAH, NOT JUST SETTING UP IN A PARKING LOT OR ANYTHING.
SO ANYBODY ELSE? THAT'S CONSTRUCTION SITE, SO MANUFACTURING SITES, IT'S PRETTY MUCH IT'S IT'S VERY SIMILAR.
THEY WILL HAVE TO GET PERMISSION FROM THAT BUSINESS OWNER.
AND AND AS FAR AS OPERATING THE SAME AS THE THE BUSINESS THAT THEY'RE THAT THEY'RE SETTING UP AT.
SO AND THEN THEY CAN ONLY OPERATE AT THE SAME TIME AS THE HOURS OF OPERATION BECAUSE IF IT'S LONGER THAN AN HOUR, THEY'RE GOING TO NEED ACCESS TO POSSIBLY A RESTROOM.
SO THEY NEED TO THEY'LL GET DURING THE PERMITTING PROCESS.
WE'LL GET A LETTER FROM THEM AND SAYS THAT THEY CAN USE THE RESTROOM.
SO AND WE'LL HAVE THEY'LL HAVE TO HAVE MAKE SURE THAT THEIR CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY SAYS THAT THEY'RE DESIGNATED AS A MANUFACTURING.
OF COURSE, THEY CAN'T PARK AND, YOU KNOW, AN EXIT OR ENTRANCE LANE, TAKE UP REQUIRED PARKING SPACES AND JUST MAKE SURE THAT THEIR SAFE VEHICLE MOVEMENT IN THE AREA THAT THEY'RE SETTING UP AND THEY CAN'T IMPEDE OTHER BUSINESSES EITHER, AND THEY'VE GOT TO CLEAN UP AFTER THEMSELVES.
AND ALSO THEY CAN'T THE LIQUID SEWAGE AND STUFF, OF COURSE, THEY CAN'T LET IT RELEASE AT THE SPOT.
THAT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT'S JUST GENERAL LANGUAGE FOR FOOD FOOD TRUCKS.
SO ANY QUESTIONS ON MANUFACTURING SITES BEFORE I SAID JUST ONE HOUR THIS THIS THIS IN THE JULY MEETING, THIS ALLOWS THEM TO OPERATE THE SAME AS A BUSINESS.
WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR ENFORCING THIS? MY DEPARTMENT, OUR ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH SPECIALIST.
YEAH, BUT WE DO THE PERMITTING AND IN NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES.
ANYBODY ELSE? SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE DIDN'T I DIDN'T CHANGE VERY MUCH ON THIS, AS I HAD MENTIONED IN THE BEGINNING.
THERE'S SOME SITUATIONS THE WAY THE ORDINANCE IS WRITTEN RIGHT NOW THAT YOU'VE GOT TO GET A PERMIT FROM COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT OR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AND A PERMIT FROM US.
THE CHANGE THAT WE MADE IN PARTICULAR SOME CIRCUMSTANCES I HAVE HOA'S BUSINESS ANNIVERSARY CELEBRATIONS WHERE THEY'RE JUST INVITING THEIR EMPLOYEES SITUATIONS WHERE THEY'RE NOT INVITING THE PUBLIC.
THE CHANGE THAT WE MADE, THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO GET THE TWO PERMITS, THEY WOULD JUST HAVE TO GET A FOOD TRUCK PERMIT.
SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I JUST SAID HERE, SO THAT WHEN I APPROVED THE FIRST READING OF THE AMENDMENTS TO CHAPTER 14 OR DENY.
IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS? WHOO! THERE YOU GO.
VICTORIA, THERE'S A MOTION ON THIS.
PASSES UNANIMOUS WITH DAN'S AMENDMENT, RIGHT? YES, I'LL MAKE THAT, I'M SORRY.
YES, WE'LL MAKE THAT AMENDMENT.
MAYOR AND COUNCIL, AT THIS POINT, WE WILL MOVE ON TO 7K RECEIVE A REPORT ON THE
[K. Receive a report on the City's response to the 2019 Coronavirus Disease (Covid-19) and consider approval of a minute order authorizing the continuation and renewal of the declaration of local disaster and public health emergency regarding Covid-19 dated November 17, 2020. (Staff Presenter: K.T. Freeman, Fire Chief and Matt Ribitzki, Deputy City Attorney)]
CITY'S RESPONSE TO 2019 CORONAVIRUS DISEASE COVID 19 AND CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A MINUTE ORDER AUTHORIZING THE CONTINUATION AND RENEWAL OF A DECLARATION OF LOCAL DISASTER AND PUBLIC HEALTH EMERGENCY REGARDING COVID 19 DATED NOVEMBER 17, 2020.STAFF PRESENTERS TONIGHT ARE KT FREEMAN, CASEY DAVIS, MATT RIBITZKI, ANYONE ELSE, ANYBODY ELSE.
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OUT THERE IT IS RIGHT THERE.MAYOR AND COUNCIL, GOOD EVENING.
KT FREEMAN, FIRE CHIEF I'M GOING TO JUST BE LEADING LEADING OFF AND THEN CHIEF DAVIS IS GOING TO TAKE OVER THE MAJORITY OF THE THE CONVERSATION DISCUSSION.
BUT I DO WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU THAT WE'VE BEEN TRENDING OUR STATS, WHICH CHIEF DAVIS WILL GO INTO SPECIFICITY HERE IN JUST A LITTLE BIT.
BUT OUR OUR STATS ARE TRENDING DOWN, WHICH IS GOOD.
AND JUST OVER THE LAST WEEK, I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH DR.
MARTIN THAT HE TOO IS PLEASED WITH THEM.
AND I THINK WE'RE NOT READY TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION YET.
BUT WE'RE ALL LOOKING AT IT WITH A REAL CRITICAL EYE ABOUT AT SOME POINT.
IF THIS TREND CONTINUES TO GO DOWN, AT WHAT POINT DO WE LOOK AT MAYBE PLAYING A DIFFERENT ROLE IN PUBLIC HEALTH? NOT NOT ELIMINATING, BUT AT SOME POINT WE'VE GOT TO TAKE A CRITICAL LINE.
WE'RE ALREADY LOOKING AT IT ABOUT WHAT ARE WE GETTING VERSUS WHAT ARE WE SPENDING? AND WE CONTINUE TO REDUCE STAFF APPROPRIATELY.
WE CONTINUE TO LOOK AT OUR HOURS TO TO HAVE EFFICIENCIES AND THE EFFECTIVENESS.
SO I'M NOT PREPARED TO GET INTO A DETAILED, GRANULAR DISCUSSION WITH YOU TONIGHT.
BUT PERHAPS MAYBE AFTER THE FIRST OF THE YEAR, WHEN WE LOOK AT THE HOLIDAYS AND SEE WHAT MAY MANIFEST OR MAY NOT MANIFEST OUT OF THAT.
I THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE IN A BETTER POSITION TO COME BACK TO YOU AFTER THE FIRST YEAR IN CONSULTATION WITH DR.
MARTIN, AND WE TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT OUR PUBLIC HEALTH LOOKS LIKE AND WHAT IT MAY NEED TO LOOK LIKE IN THE FUTURE.
SO I JUST WANT TO LEAD OFF TO ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS OF THAT FOR NOW.
I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO CHIEF DAVIS.
SO WE JUST HAVE A FEW SLIDES FOR YOU THIS THIS EVENING, BUT AS CHIEF FREEMAN WAS ALLUDING TO, ALL OF OUR NUMBERS ARE INDICATING THINGS ARE TRENDING DOWN, WHICH WE'RE VERY PLEASED WITH AT THE MOMENT.
SO WE'RE GOING TO GIVE AN UPDATE ON WHAT'S GOING ON WITH OUR VACCINE CLINIC AND OUR COVID TESTING.
SO RIGHT NOW, WE'RE OFFERING THE ALL OF THE COVID BOOSTER SHOTS THAT ARE AVAILABLE.
YOU KNOW, MOSTLY WE'VE DONE MODERNA, BUT WE HAVE DONE PFIZER AND SOME OF THE JOHNSON AND JOHNSON BOOSTER SHOTS ORIGINALLY AS WELL.
SO WE'RE OFFERING ALL THREE OF THOSE WE HAVE ON HERE FOR YOU TONIGHT, THOUGH, JUST TO REMIND EVERYBODY WHAT THE BOOSTERS ARE FOR THE 65 YEARS AND OLDER 18 WHO LIVE IN LONG TERM CARE SETTINGS, 18+ WHO HAVE UNDERLYING MEDICAL CONDITIONS AND 18+ WHO LIVE IN HIGH RISK.
I MEAN, WORK OR LIVE IN HIGH, HIGH RISK SETTINGS LIKE HEALTH CARE, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
JOHNSON AND JOHNSON, 18 AND OLDER, WHO HAD WHO WERE VACCINATED TWO MONTHS OR MORE AGO.
SO THAT ONE IS JUST ANYBODY THAT'S BEEN VACCINATED WITH IT.
THEY'RE RECOMMENDING IF YOU'RE 18 AND OLDER, YOU SHOULD RECEIVE ANOTHER BOOSTER AND THEY'RE RECOMMENDING ANY BOOSTER WITH THAT AS WELL.
SO CURRENTLY, OUR TESTING IS STILL AT STATION THREE.
WE'VE, AS CHIEF SAID, WE'VE WE'VE REDUCED OUR NUMBERS AND HOURS TO MEET THE DEMAND.
RIGHT NOW, WE'RE OPEN MONDAY, WEDNESDAY, FRIDAY FROM 8 TO 10 IN THE MORNING AND THE TESTING NUMBERS ARE VERY LOW AT THE AT THE MOMENT.
THIS LAST WEEK WE TESTED THIRTY SIX, SO ALL OF THE NUMBERS ARE TRENDING VERY LOW FOR TESTING.
TESTING SUPPLIES AND STUFF ARE STILL REIMBURSABLE THROUGH HARPA.
WE'RE STILL USING THE BINAXNOW TESTS THAT WE'VE PURCHASED AND WE STILL HAVE OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH HUGUELY FOR PCR TESTING WHEN WE NEED THAT.
WE STILL HAVE THE APPOINTMENT PROCESS THROUGH THE CITY WEBSITE AND THE ONLINE FORM.
WE'RE STILL ASKING THAT WE WE'RE TESTING SYMPTOMATIC PEOPLE, NOT TESTING FOR TRAVEL AND OTHER OTHER NEEDS FOR TESTING.
CALL CENTERS PROCESSING ALL OF THOSE FORMS AS THEY COME THROUGH FOR SYMPTOMATIC PATIENTS AND PLACING THOSE APPOINTMENTS FOR THOSE FOLKS.
SO WE STILL HAVE THE HOTLINE UP AND RUNNING, AND IT'S STAFFED MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY EIGHT TO FIVE.
YOU KNOW, THEY STILL TAKE VACCINE QUESTIONS.
GENERAL COVID QUESTIONS THEY'RE HELPING WITH, YOU KNOW, JUST A LOT OF LOGISTICAL THINGS WITH PEOPLE NEEDING REPLACEMENT OF CARDS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO THEY'VE THEY'VE BEEN A BIG HELP, REALLY.
WE FEEL LIKE THERE ARE THE BIGGEST PART OF THE OPERATION RIGHT NOW BESIDES WORKING, WORKING CASES AND THE VACCINES.
SO THEY'RE THEY'RE STAYING BUSY WITH THOSE, THOSE ITEMS. VACCINES ARE STILL AVAILABLE AT THE PIT OR THE COLLEGIATE HIGH SCHOOL.
WE'RE DOING THOSE THURSDAYS FROM 3:30 TO 6:00 P.M.
WE HAD SEEN THE NUMBERS DROP OFF DRAMATICALLY UNTIL THE MODERNA BOOSTER CAME OUT ON
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THE 28TH OF OCTOBER.WE SAW, YOU KNOW, OUR NUMBERS PRETTY MUCH TRIPLE FROM WHAT WE WERE DOING, WHICH OUR NUMBERS WERE PRETTY LOW.
SO WE DID ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY SEVEN.
ON OCTOBER 28TH, NOVEMBER 4TH, WE DID ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY FIVE AND THEN NOVEMBER 11TH COMING UP.
WE ONLY HAVE FORTY FOUR SCHEDULED AT THIS TIME.
SO WE'RE STARTING TO SEE THE NUMBERS TREND DOWN FOR DEMAND FOR THE VACCINE BOOSTER AS WELL, THOUGH WE'RE HAPPY TO OPEN IT UP TO QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS AND.
SO CHIEF WANTED ME TO MENTION ABOUT THE PEDIATRIC DOSES IF ANYBODY HAD ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT.
SO WE WE'VE TALKED TO ALL OF THE PEDIATRICIANS IN TOWN AND PHARMACIES, AND ALL OF THEM HAVE HAVE IT AVAILABLE TO TREAT THAT 5 TO 11 AGE RANGE GROUP IN PUBLIC HEALTH.
RIGHT NOW, WE BELIEVE THE BEST PLACE FOR THOSE CHILDREN TO GET THE VACCINE IS IN THE PEDIATRICIAN'S OFFICE, WHERE PARENTS CAN ASK THOSE QUESTIONS IN A PRIVATE SETTING.
WE HAVEN'T SEEN A DEMAND FOR IT AT OUR VACCINE SITE.
WE'VE RECEIVED LESS THAN 20 PHONE CALLS ASKING FOR IT.
WE'VE REACHED OUT TO THE ISDS AND THEY KNOW AND UNDERSTAND HOW WE'RE HANDLING THIS RIGHT NOW.
THEY'RE ON BOARD WITH THAT, THAT PLAN.
THEY SAID THEY'RE NOT SEEING AN INCREASE IN DEMAND.
THEY'RE POINTING EVERYBODY TO OUR WEBSITE, ON OUR WEBSITE.
WE HAVE THIS STATEMENT ON THERE AND THAT WE HAVE THE VACCINE FINDER.
THERE'S 50 LOCATIONS WITHIN TWENTY FIVE MILES OF BURLESON, AND SEVERAL OF THOSE ARE RIGHT HERE IN BURLESON, WHERE THEY CAN RECEIVE THOSE VACCINATIONS IF THEY THEY CHOOSE TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT.
ANY QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, CASEY.
ALL RIGHT, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, MATT RIBITZKI,, DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY, I'M HERE NOT ONLY FOR THE UPDATE, BUT FOR THE CONTINUING AND RENEWING OF THE CITY'S EMERGENCY DECLARATION AND ORDER.
AGAIN, THE CURRENT DECLARATION BECAME EFFECTIVE ON NOVEMBER 17TH 2020.
IT INCORPORATES THE GOVERNOR'S EXECUTIVE ORDERS, INCLUDING THE EXECUTIVE ORDERS THAT HAVE BEEN ISSUED SINCE THE LAST TIME THIS DECLARATION HAS BEEN CONTINUED, RENEWED IN GA 38, G A 39 AND GA 40.
DECLARATION IS CONSISTENT WITH THOSE EXECUTIVE ORDERS.
OUR CURRENT DECLARATION DOES NOT REQUIRE CITIZENS TO WEAR FACIAL COVERINGS.
IT DOESN'T LIMIT THE OCCUPANCY OF BUSINESSES, DOESN'T LIMIT THE SIZE OF NUMBER OF GATHERINGS.
DOESN'T REQUIRE BUSINESSES TO ADOPT A HEALTH AND SAFETY POLICY, REQUIRE VACCINE PASSPORTS OR INCLUDE A VACCINE MANDATE.
THE DECLARATION DOES ALLOW THE CITY TO TAKE EMERGENCY MEASURES, AUTHORIZED THE CITY MANAGER TO MAKE CERTAIN EMERGENCY PURCHASES AND AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO CLOSE PARKS.
AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW, THE DECLARATION IS CONTINUED TO RENEWED THROUGH TONIGHT.
COUNCIL HAS A COUPLE OF OPTIONS IN FRONT OF IT, IT CAN CONTINUE TO RENEW THE CURRENT DECLARATION THROUGH MARCH 7TH, 2022, CONTINUE TO RENEW THE DECLARATION TO ANOTHER DATE INTO THE FUTURE, OR TAKE NO ACTION AND LET THE DECLARATION EXPIRE.
BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
IS THIS STILL A FACTOR OF RECEIVING REIMBURSEMENT OR FUNDING OF OTHER KIND? I THINK YOU'RE MAKING A FINDING THAT IT'S IN THE GENERAL HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE OF THE PUBLIC TO CONTINUE THE EMERGENCY DECLARATION AND ORDER.
I DO THINK THAT COMES INTO PLAY TOO.
SO I'M GOING TO ASSUME THAT THAT WOULD BE TIED TO US PROVIDING THE VACCINES AND CORRECT.
IF WE WANT REIMBURSEMENT FOR THEM, YEAH, YES, YES.
SO DO WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION? I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE AND RENEW THROUGH MARCH 7TH, AS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF.
WE'RE AHEAD, I DON'T SEE ANYTHING ON THE SCREEN.
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YEAH, I GOT A MOTION BY VICTORIA AND A SECOND BY JIMMY, PLEASE VOTE.AT THIS POINT, MAYOR AND COUNCIL WE WILL MOVE ON TO SECTION EIGHT REPORTS AND PRESENTATIONS.
8A IS TO RECEIVE A REPORT, HOLD A DISCUSSION AND PROVIDE STAFF DIRECTION
[A. Receive a report, hold a discussion, and provide staff direction regarding the design of Shannon Creek Park. (Staff Presenter: Jen Basham, Director of Parks and Recreation).]
REGARDING THE DESIGN OF SHANNON CREEK PARK.TONIGHT STAFF PRESENTERS ARE JEN BASHAM, DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
WE'LL GET STARTED THIS EVENING TALKING ABOUT SHANNON CREEK WITH A LITTLE BACKGROUND.
SHANNON CREEK IS FOURTEEN POINT EIGHT SIX ACRES IN THE AREA THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY LOOKING TO DEVELOP.
IT IS PART OF A LARGER SYSTEM THAT IS ABOUT A HUNDRED ACRES OF PARKLAND.
RESIDENTS IN THIS AREA HAVE BEEN REQUESTING THAT WE DO IMPROVEMENTS TO THE PARK FOR THE PAST FIVE YEARS OR SO.
THE ORIGINAL PLAN FOR THIS PARK WAS TO BE A NATURE PRESERVE AND JUST TO REITERATE THAT THIS IS PART OF A LARGER SYSTEM OF PARKLAND THAT CONNECTS MULTIPLE PORTIONS.
A LITTLE TIMELINE THE INITIAL BUDGET AND POTENTIAL AMENITIES WERE PROPOSED TO THE PARKS BOARD BACK IN APRIL OF 2021.
AFTER THAT, IT WAS PRESENTED TO COUNCIL.
COUNCIL DID REQUEST THAT WE DO SOME ADDITIONAL PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PRIOR TO SETTING A BUDGET FOR THIS PROJECT.
SO IN JULY, A COMMUNITY SURVEY WAS ISSUED TO THE COMMUNITY AND THEN A TOWN HALL WAS ALSO HOSTED IN JULY.
FROM THE FEEDBACK WE RECEIVED ON THOSE, WE DID CREATE A NEW AMENITY LIST AND BUDGET BASED OFF OF THAT FEEDBACK AND TO REFINE TWO SPECIFIC AMENITIES.
WE JUST COMPLETED A SECOND LAYER OF PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT THAT ENDED OCT.
SHANNON CREEK WAS APPROVED AS A 2022 PROJECT AS PART OF OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.
AND BEFORE WE GET STARTED WITH THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT FEEDBACK, WE WANTED TO GO THROUGH HOW WE AS STAFF CLASSIFY OUR PARK SYSTEM.
THIS IS BASED OFF OF NATIONAL RECREATION AND PARKS ASSOCIATION STANDARDS.
IT'S JUST A WAY FOR US AS PROFESSIONALS TO STANDARDIZE OUR VOCABULARY SO THAT WE MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CLEANING THAT UP.
WE CONSIDER A MINI OR POCKET PARK AS ANYTHING LESS THAN ZERO POINT FIVE ACRES.
IT'S TYPICALLY TO ADDRESS A SPECIFIC NEED WITHIN AN AREA, AN EXAMPLE FOR US AS CLARK PARK, A NEIGHBORHOOD PARK, IS A PARK THAT'S BETWEEN ONE AND FIFTEEN ACRES OR REALLY POINT FIVE AND FIFTEEN ACRES.
IT SERVES RESIDENTS WITHIN A QUARTER OR A HALF MILE RADIUS.
IT'S GENERALLY UNLIT AND HAS OFF STREET PARKING IS NOT RECOMMENDED.
FOR US, THIS WOULD BE MISTLETOE OR CENTENNIAL PARK.
A COMMUNITY PARK IS A PARK THAT'S BETWEEN SIXTEEN AND NINETY NINE ACRES.
IT'S USUALLY MEETING RESIDENTS WITHIN ONE TO TWO MILES.
IT HAS VARIOUS AMENITIES WITHIN IT.
WE DO TYPICALLY HAVE PARKING AND TRAIL SYSTEM WITHIN A PARK THIS BIG ABOVE THAT.
AS A METRO OR URBAN PARK OR AN ADDITIONAL CAUSE WOULD BE A SPECIAL USE PARK, WHICH IS BETWEEN A HUNDRED AND ALMOST FIVE HUNDRED ACRES.
IT SERVES MULTIPLE COMMUNITIES.
IT HAS MULTIPLE AREAS OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF PROGRAMING.
FOR US, THIS WOULD BE CHISENHALL THAT HAS MOUNTAIN BIKE TRAILS, PARKS OR PLAYGROUNDS, BALL FIELDS, DISC GOLF COURSE, JUST MULTIPLE DIFFERENT TYPES OF USE.
IT BRINGS IN PEOPLE FROM OTHER AREAS OF THE COMMUNITY A REGIONAL PARK.
TYPICALLY, YOU WON'T SEE THIS AT A MUNICIPAL LEVEL.
THERE ARE A FEW COMMUNITIES LIKE LEWISVILLE AND DALLAS THAT HAVE PARKS THAT ARE THIS LARGE, BUT TYPICALLY THOSE ARE STATE OR COUNTY LEVEL PARKS SYSTEM.
WE WON'T TYPICALLY HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN A COMMUNITY, OUR SIZE, LINEAR OR LINKAGES.
THESE ARE AREAS THAT CONNECT MULTIPLE PIECES SO IT CAN BE GREENWAY BLUE WEIGHT TRAIL SYSTEM.
IT CAN BE BIKING, HIKING, HORSEBACK RIDING, CANOEING MULTIPLE MODES, BUT WE JUST CONSIDER IT A LINEAR LINKAGE.
AND THEN THE LAST TYPE THAT WE DISCUSS, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT WE WILL BE LOOKING AT FOR SHANNON CREEK IS A CONSERVANCY WHICH IS JUST TO PROTECT EITHER THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT THERE OR THE CULTURAL ENVIRONMENT.
AND TYPICALLY, RECREATION IS A SECONDARY USE OR CONSIDERATION WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT ANY TYPE OF CONSERVANCY OF SPACE.
SO, SHANNON CREEK, WHERE DOES THIS FALL INTO THAT? SHANNON CREEK IS CENTRALLY LOCATED AS PART OF OUR SYSTEM.
IT DOES CREATE MULTIPLE LINKAGES, MULTIPLE TRAILS, PARKS AND OPEN SPACE.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE CONGRUENT LINKAGE AND I'LL SHOW YOU A MAP ON THE NEXT SLIDE, WE HAVE ABOUT NINETY ACRES CONNECTED WITH SHANNON CREEK.
THE CURRENT PHASE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS FOURTEEN POINT EIGHT SIX ACRES, BUT INCLUDING IN THAT FUTURE PHASES.
IN THE ADJACENT AREAS, WE HAVE ALMOST THIRTY ACRES AND THEN ABOUT TWENTY FIVE LINEAR LINKS BETWEEN THAT.
SO SHANNON CREEK IS POSITIONED TO SERVE JUST OVER FOUR THOUSAND HOUSEHOLDS WITHIN ONE MILE.
AND SO WHEN WE'RE CONSIDERING IMPROVEMENTS TO THIS AREA, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AS STAFF.
SO IN THIS, AND I BELIEVE YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN THIS BEFORE, THE YELLOW AREA IS
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THE AREA THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING RIGHT NOW WITH THIS ONE POINT EIGHT FIVE ACRES AS WELL.AND THEN THE ONE POINT THREE ACRES THAT ARE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF CANDLER DRIVE.
AS YOU CAN SEE, WE ALSO HAVE THE REVERIE PARK LAND THIS FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OF SHANNON CREEK, HILLSIDE PARK, WAKEFIELD, THE REVERIE, WHICH THIS IS ACTUALLY JUST CONSIDERED OPEN SPACE.
IT'S NOT DEDICATED PARK LAND, BUT IT'S A CLEAR LINEAR CONNECTION FOR TRAIL.
AND THEN WE'VE GOT OUR VILLAGE CREEK TRAIL EXTENSION AND EVENTUALLY CHISENHALL PARK.
ALL OF THIS KIND OF LANDS WITH SHANNON CREEK.
SO OUR ORIGINAL CONCEPTS, JUST TO BRING THOSE BACK FOR A BRIEF SECOND.
WE DID THREE DIFFERENT CONCEPTS A LOW, MEDIUM AND LARGE SCALE WITH DIFFERENT AMENITIES AT EACH SITE.
THE COST FOR THOSE VARIED IN RANGE FROM ONE POINT FOUR MILLION TO THREE POINT FOUR, WITH THE CONCEPTS REALLY JUST SAYING THIS CAN FUNCTION SIMILARLY TO A COMMUNITY PARK, BUT IT DOES HAVE OPPORTUNITIES TO BE NATURE PRESERVE, PARKING TRAIL, ET CETERA.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THOSE ORIGINAL CONCEPTS? ALL RIGHT, SO LET'S GET INTO THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT RESULTS.
SO THE FIRST LEVEL OF SURVEYS, WE HAD A LITTLE OVER THREE HUNDRED RESPONDENTS THERE.
AS YOU CAN SEE, THE BIGGEST DEMOGRAPHIC OF RESPONDENTS WERE IN THAT THIRTY FIVE TO FORTY FOUR.
BUT WE DID HAVE SOME PEOPLE AT ALL VARYING AGES.
AND WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT DATA, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT JUST GETTING ONE BIG SECTION AND WE REALLY FELT LIKE WE GOT A GOOD CROSS-SECTION.
WE EVEN HAD ALMOST THIRTY PERCENT OF OUR RESPONDENTS DIDN'T HAVE KIDDOS.
SO WE THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO GET A GOOD, DIVERSE FEEDBACK ON THIS.
AND THEN IF THEY HAD KIDDOS, THEY HAD KIDS FROM ZERO ALL THE WAY TO 18 OR THEY DIDN'T HAVE KIDDOS ANYMORE.
AND SO THAT WAS A VERY EVEN SPREAD.
WE LIKED THAT THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE RESPONDENTS IN THIS FIRST SECTION, I THINK NINETY NINE POINT SOMETHING PERCENT WERE BURLESON RESIDENTS AND SIXTY SEVEN PERCENT OF THOSE DO LIVE IN THE SHANNON CREEK NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE SUPPORTED AMENITIES FROM THAT FIRST PHASE WERE NATURALIZED AREAS AND TRAILS, SOME PAVED TRAILS, MANICURED OPEN SPACE, A LARGE BARRIER FREE PLAYGROUND WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY AN INCLUSIVE PLAYGROUND THAT CAN SERVE KIDDOS WITH ALL AMENITIES.
THEY WANTED IT TO BE NATURE THEMED AND THEY WANTED IT TO BE SHADED.
A FISHING POND, SPORTS COURT, FITNESS EQUIPMENT AND PARKING AND RESTROOMS WERE ALSO REQUESTED FREQUENTLY FROM THIS SURVEY IN THE OPEN ENDED QUESTIONS.
AND THESE WERE THE COMMENTS THROUGH A WORD CLOUD.
TWO BIG THINGS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE ON HERE ARE A SPLASH PAD AND A DOG PARK.
THOSE AMENITIES ARE BEING BUILT CURRENTLY IN OTHER AREAS OF TOWN, SO WE DID NOT INCLUDE THAT IN THE SCOPE OF THIS PROJECT, JUST BECAUSE WE REALLY FEEL LIKE WE'RE MEETING THAT NEED CURRENTLY.
AND THESE ARE THE SURVEYS FROM THE IN-PERSON TOWN HALLS, SO GREEN ON THESE MEANS YES, I REALLY, REALLY WANT THIS.
YELLOW MEANS TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT.
AND RED MEANS PLEASE DON'T PUT THIS IN MY PARK.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE, PEOPLE REALLY WANTED NATURALIZED AREAS.
THEY WERE MIXED ON OPEN SPACE AND THEY WERE NEUTRAL ON WILDFLOWER AREAS, WHICH IS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT THE SURVEY STATED.
AND THESE SAME PICTURES WERE USED FOR BOTH THE ONLINE SURVEY AND THE IN-PERSON TOWN HALL SO THAT WE GOT SOME CONSISTENCY IN OUR FEEDBACK.
THE NATURAL PLACE SCAPE ON TOP PEOPLE WERE PRETTY SUPPORTIVE OF MAKING SURE IT WAS THEMED THAT WAY.
THE SMALL PLAY AREA PEOPLE DO NOT WANT A SMALL PLAY AREA.
THEY WOULD LIKE A LARGE PLAY AREA.
THEY WERE IN SUPPORT OR NEUTRAL ABOUT.
SO ON THE LEFT SIDE, YOU'LL SEE SPORTS COURTS.
AT THE IN-PERSON TOWN HALL PEOPLE WERE NOT IN SUPPORT OF THAT.
FITNESS EQUIPMENT PEOPLE WERE REALLY SUPPORTIVE OR NEUTRAL ON.
AND THEN THE FISHING POND WAS KIND OF 50 50 ALL OVER THE PLACE.
AND THEN, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE RIGHT, WE DID RECEIVE A LOT OF JUST OPEN ENDED FEEDBACK THAT WAS KIND OF CONFLICTING TO BE JUST COMPLETELY TRANSPARENT.
SOME PEOPLE WERE REALLY ADAMANT THAT THEY DID NOT WANT PARKING, WHILE OTHERS WERE VERY ADAMANT THAT WE DO HAVE PARKING.
PAVILIONS WERE SUPPORTED, LIGHTING WAS SUPPORTED, WALKING TRAILS WERE SUPPORTED, BARRIER FREE PLAYGROUNDS WERE SUPPORTED.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE, JUST SOME DIFFERENT RANDOM COMMENTS SPLASH PADS, DOG PARKS, ETC.
THIS IS JUST A SUMMATION OF EVERYTHING THAT YOU JUST SAW ON THOSE OPEN ENDED, BUT I FEEL LIKE THE PICTURES SELL IT A LOT BETTER THAN THIS.
AND THEN THIS IS PHASE TWO THAT WE JUST COMPLETED.
WE DID RECEIVE FIVE HUNDRED AND FORTY FIVE RESPONDENTS.
THE SURVEY WAS OPEN FOR A LITTLE OVER TWO WEEKS.
SAME COMMENTS OR THE SAME DEMOGRAPHIC QUESTIONS WERE ASKED HOW OLD ARE YOU? AS YOU CAN SEE THE STILL MOST PREVALENT IN THAT 35 TO 44 AGE GROUP.
BUT WE DID HAVE SOME YOUNGER AND WE DID HAVE SOME OLDER.
ON THIS ONE WE DID HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE HIGHER LEVEL OF HOW MANY PEOPLE HAD CHILDREN, 74 PERCENT OF THE RESPONDENTS.
WE STILL HAD A GREAT CROSS-SECTION OF DIFFERENT AGE RANGES AND HOW OLD THEIR KIDDOS WERE.
WE DID HAVE A FEW A LITTLE BIT HIGHER PERCENTAGE OF NONRESIDENTS ON THIS ONE.
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SO OVER FOUR PERCENT OF THE RESPONDENTS WERE NOT BURLESON RESIDENTS, WHICH IS 24 OF THE 545 THAT TOOK IT.AND THEN THIS ONE IS ALMOST A FLIP OF THE PHASE ONE SURVEY.
SO WE HAD A HIGHER RESPONDENT OF PEOPLE THAT DID NOT LIVE IN THE SHANNON CREEK NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT WE DID HAVE ABOUT 40 PERCENT THAT DID.
AND THEN 20 AGAIN, 20 RESPONDENTS DID NOT LIVE IN BURLESON.
OUT OF THAT, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE ONE ON THE TOP RIGHT THE PEOPLE LIVED MOSTLY IN CROWLEY, JOSHUA OR GODLEY, SO THEY WOULD BE PEOPLE THAT WOULD USE THIS PARK IF THEY SAW THAT IT WAS THERE.
THE TWO BIG QUESTIONS THAT WE ASKED ON THIS SURVEY WAS WOULD YOU LIKE A BARRIER FREE PLAYGROUND, A NATURE THEMED PLAYGROUND OR BOTH? AND THAT'S WHAT YOU SEE ON THE BOTTOM LEFT, AND PEOPLE REALLY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S NATURE THEMED AND THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE BOTH.
THAT WAS PRETTY MUCH THE SPLIT.
THERE WAS NOT AS MUCH SUPPORT FOR JUST THE BARRIER FREE PLAYGROUND.
AND THEN THE SECOND QUESTION THAT WE ASKED THEM WAS IF YOU HAD TO CHOOSE A WATER FEATURE BETWEEN A WETLAND AND A POND, WHICH ONE WOULD YOU LIKE? BOTH OF THOSE ARE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT BECAUSE DRAINAGE IS AN ISSUE OUT OF SHANNON CREEK, AND IT WAS REQUESTED IN THE FIRST PHASE OF SURVEYS.
AND OVERWHELMINGLY, PEOPLE WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE A FISHING POND WITH A PIER.
SO THESE WERE THE SUPPORTED AMENITIES, NATURALIZED AREAS PAVED TRAILS MANICURED, VERY SIMILAR TO THE FIRST PHASE, BUT PEOPLE REALLY WANTED TO SEE A NATURAL THEMED PLAY AREA AND A BARRIER FREE PLAY AREA, SPORTS COURTS, PARKING RESTROOM AND I'LL SHOW THE WORD CLOUD FOR THIS ONE.
WE DID HAVE THREE RESPONDENTS IN THE WORD CLOUD THAT DID STATE THEY DIDN'T WANT ANY IMPROVEMENTS.
OUT OF FIVE HUNDRED AND FORTY FIVE, THAT'S LESS THAN ONE PERCENT.
SOME ADDITIONAL RANDOM ITEMS DISC GOLF COURSE BASKETBALL.
BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, THE BIG ONES ARE WALKING TRAILS, RESTROOMS, TRAILS, BIKE TRAILS, BENCHES, FURNITURE WAS REALLY IMPORTANT BATHROOMS. A LOT OF PEOPLE DID REQUEST SEEING VOLLEYBALL COURTS, SO A SPORTS COURT OF SOME TYPE LIGHTING PARKING WAS ACTUALLY NOT AS PREVALENT RESPONDED TO IN THIS PHASE OF THE SURVEY.
SO THE REVISED CONCEPTUALS INCLUDE THESE WERE WHAT WE PUT IN THE SURVEY.
THE PICTURE ON THE LEFT IS A WETLAND.
THE PICTURE ON THE TOP RIGHT IS A POND WITH A PIER, AND THEN THE BOTTOM IS A PAVILION WITH AN INTEGRATED RESTROOM.
SO IT WOULD BE A PICNIC SHELTER AS WELL AS A RESTROOM AS ONE.
AND THEN WHEN WE SAID NATURAL PLAY AREA, WHAT WE ARE MEANING IS THE TOP LEFT PICTURE.
SO IT'S USING NATURAL FEATURES TO CREATE PLAY AREAS ON THE TOP RIGHT.
IT'S NOT AN ACTUAL FINAL CONCEPT OF OPPORTUNITIES TO DO BARRIER FREE PLACE OR AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS ONE IS NATURE THEMED.
AND IF WE PROCEEDED WITH THIS, ANY FUTURE OR FINAL DESIGN OF THOSE PLAY AMENITIES WOULD GO BACK OUT FOR PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.
WE WOULDN'T JUST SELECT IT WITHOUT GETTING RESPONSES FROM THE COMMUNITY.
THE BOTTOM LEFT IS WHAT WE WOULD SAY IF WE WERE TALKING ABOUT FITNESS EQUIPMENT.
AND THEN THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF A SAND VOLLEYBALL COURT THAT WE WOULD PLACE.
PHASE ONE IT DOES SAY SMALL SHADE STRUCTURES, NATURAL PLAY AREAS.
IT GIVES MULTIPLE OPTIONS FOR PARKING.
WE HAVE HEARD BACK ABOUT SOME PARKING OPTIONS, SO I KNOW WE WILL BE WORKING VERY DILIGENTLY WITH THE COMMUNITY TO SELECT AN AREA THAT EVERYONE CAN KIND OF COMPROMISE ON.
IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S REQUESTED WILDFLOWER AREAS, A COMBINATION OF PAVED TRAIL AND DECOMPOSED GRANITE TRAIL.
SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS MULTIPLE PEOPLE ASKED FOR PAVED MULTIPLE PEOPLE ASK FOR NATURAL, SO WE'LL DO A COMBINATION.
THIS ONE ONLY INCLUDES ONE RESTROOM.
THIS IS A SHADED PAVILION WITH A PICNIC AREA.
IT DOES HAVE A BIG MAINTAINED OPEN SPACE AND A SMALL, NATURE THEMED INCLUSIVE PLAYGROUND.
AND SO ALL OF THOSE THINGS THAT I JUST STATED.
IN ADDITION, REFORESTATION IS A BIG THING.
SO CREATING A LANDSCAPE BUFFER BETWEEN THE HOMES AND THE PARK HAS BEEN REQUESTED.
WE WILL INCLUDE THAT IT'S A BIG, HEALTHY PORTION OF THE BUDGET.
THIS CONCEPT 2A INCLUDED THE WETLAND THAT WAS PART OF THE SURVEY IRRIGATION SHADE OVER THE PLAYGROUNDS, AND THIS ONLY HAS ONE RESTROOM.
SO THERE IS A PAVILION INCLUDED IN THIS CONCEPT AND THEN A SINGLE RESTROOM, AND THIS CAME IN AT TWO POINT NINE.
AND JUST TO BE COMPLETELY CLEAR, THESE CONCEPTS ARE NOT FINAL PROGRAMS. SO IF YOU SEE SOMETHING ON THIS LAYOUT, IT DOES NOT MEAN THAT IT WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE FINAL DESIGN.
IT'S JUST WHAT WE COULD FIT WITHIN THIS BUDGET.
IT SHOWS A SPLASH PAD, BUT IT'S JUST DESIGNATING AN AREA FOR IT.
IT'S NOT ACTUALLY INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET THAT WE'RE PRESENTING.
THE BIG CHANGES IN THIS ONE IS IT INCLUDES A SPORTS COURT, IT INCLUDES THE
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FISHING POND, AND THEN IT HAS THE PREFABRICATED RESTROOM THAT'S CONNECTED TO A PAVILION AND A SEPARATE RESTROOM ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE PARK.THIS IS 15 ACRES, SO IF YOU WERE IN THE BACK OF THE PARK, YOU PROBABLY WANT TO USE THE RESTROOM THERE IF YOU'RE IN THE FRONT OF THE PARK.
PROBABLY WANT TO USE THE RESTROOM THERE.
SO THIS DOES INCLUDE BOTH OF THOSE ITEMS BASED ON HOW WE DID THE FINAL PROGRAMING OF THE PARK.
AND THEN IT INCLUDES ALL OF THE ITEMS FROM THE FIRST CONCEPT.
JEN IS THE SPORT COURT CONCEPT BASED AROUND ONE TENNIS COURT THAT CAN BE PLAYED AS TWO PICKLEBALL COURTS OR HOW DOES THAT WORK? SO WE HAVE NOT SELECTED A SPORTS COURT.
IN THE OPEN ENDED COMMENTS THE MOST PREVALENT REQUESTS WERE HONESTLY SAND VOLLEYBALL OR BASKETBALL.
WE DIDN'T GET A LOT OF REQUESTS FOR TENNIS OR PICKLEBALL OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT WE WOULD USE A MULTI-USE COURT REGARDLESS OF THAT.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY SAND VOLLEYBALL IN OUR INVENTORY, IN ANY OF OUR PARKS RIGHT NOW.
SO BASED ON THE FEEDBACK, WE WOULD SUPPORT THAT OFF THE CUFF, BUT THAT WOULD BE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ASK FOR IN THE NEXT PHASE OF PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.
THAT SPORT COURT ON THERE THAT COULD BE MOVED UP TO WHERE THE IN A DIFFERENT LOCATION LIKE WHERE THE SPLASH PAD IS.
YES SO IT'S A LITTLE CLOSER TO THE PARKING.
AND LIKE, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
THIS IS BASICALLY A BIG PUZZLE PIECE RIGHT NOW.
SO WE'RE JUST SHOWING YOU WHERE YOU CAN PLUG STUFF, BUT IT'LL ALL BE MOVED AND SHIFTED BASED ONCE WE GET A BUDGET SET AND WE ENTER INTO FINAL DESIGN, WE'LL WALK THAT PARK WITH THE COMMUNITY ONE HUNDRED TIMES UNTIL WE FEEL LIKE WE'VE GOT IT RIGHT.
SO THIS SECOND PHASE, THE CONCEPT 2B IT INCLUDES EVERYTHING THAT WE JUST DISCUSSED.
BOTH CONCEPTS DO INCLUDE PARKING LOTS AND RESTROOMS. JUST BASED ON THE SIZE OF THE PARK AND THE USES THAT WE'RE SEEING WITHIN IT.
THIS APPROXIMATE COST IS 3.69 MILLION.
WE DID TAKE THIS TO PARKS BOARD LAST THURSDAY, AND THEY DID UNANIMOUSLY RECOMMEND CONCEPT 2B IN THE AMOUNT OF 3697.
SO ONCE WE RECEIVE FEEDBACK THIS EVENING FROM COUNCIL, WE'LL BRING FORWARD A FINAL DESIGN CONTRACT.
AND THEN ONCE WE ENTER INTO FINAL DESIGN, WE WILL INCLUDE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT FOR THE FINAL LAYOUT OF FEATURES, PLAYGROUND STYLES, PAVILION STYLES, PARKING LOCATIONS, LIGHTING, ETC.
AND THEN ONCE ALL OF THAT IS SCRUBBED, WE WILL PRESENT WE WILL BID OUT CONSTRUCTION AND WE'LL BRING THAT BACK TO YOU GUYS FOR AWARD.
SO A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ON THE PARKING LOT FROM 2A TO 2B.
IS IT JUST ONE PARKING LOT THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT? YES.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT IDENTIFYING ONE AREA TO PUT PARKING.
WE'RE JUST SHOWING THE DIFFERENT AREAS WE'VE IDENTIFIED THAT IT COULD WORK.
YEAH, BECAUSE I NOTICED ON THE BOARD WITH THE POST-IT NOTES, A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE SAYING NO PARKING AT ALL.
AND I THINK WE WOULD BE DOING A DISSERVICE IF WE DIDN'T PROVIDE PARKING BECAUSE IF THEY STARTED PARKING ON THE STREETS IN FRONT OF THEIR HOMES, THEY WOULD BE FURIOUS.
OK, SO THE OTHER BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 2A 2B IS THE POND VERSUS THE WETLAND.
IT DOES HAVE TWO RESTROOMS INSTEAD OF ONE.
THOSE ARE THE BIG COST DIFFERENTIALS IN BETWEEN THE CONCEPTS AND A SPORTS COURT.
I'M NERVOUS ABOUT THE RESTROOMS. I KNOW WAS IT, OUR LAST MEETING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT A CERTAIN COMMITTEE THAT PD HAS THAT I'M JUST WONDERING HOW I JUST FEEL LIKE THIS WOULD BE TUCKED AWAY AND I'M WORRIED ABOUT SAFETY OF PEOPLE HIDING IN THEM.
SO TECHNOLOGY HAS REALLY EVOLVED.
OUR RESTROOMS HAVE NOT QUITE YET, BUT THEY HAVE LOCKING MECHANISMS NOW THAT ARE ON A TIMER.
SO AT A CERTAIN TIME IN THE DAY, THE SENSORS GO OFF.
THEY MAKE SURE NO ONE'S IN THE RESTROOM AND THEN THEY'RE LOCKED.
WE CAN PUT CAMERAS ON THE OUTSIDE.
THERE'S WAYS FOR US TO CREATE A SAFE RESTROOM EXPERIENCE WITHOUT IT BEING A HAZARD.
I KNOW THERE'S RISK ASSOCIATED WITH IT, BUT IT'S A PRETTY STANDARD AMENITY IN A PARK THIS SIZE.
WE HAVE THEM AT MISTLETOE, AT CENTENNIAL, AT WARREN AND ALL OF OUR PARKS OF THIS SIZE.
THERE'S RESTROOMS. AND I HAVE LITTLES AND SO WE ALWAYS INEVITABLY NEED TO POTTY AS SOON AS YOU GET SOMEWHERE.
SO I'M TORN ON THAT LIKE I WANT.
I CAN RELATE AND KNOW WE FREQUENT POTTY'S A LOT, BUT I'M JUST CONCERNED BECAUSE THIS IS KIND OF IT SITS BACK.
THE OTHER THING YOU SAID THIS, AND I JUST WANT TO REITERATE REFORESTATION.
SO MANY OF THE TREES WERE REMOVED FROM BACK THERE, AND I JUST WANT TO I THINK IT'LL KIND OF PLAY INTO THE NATURAL AND THE ATMOSPHERE OF THIS PARK IN ADDING ADDITIONAL TREES, BUT ALSO PROVIDING SOME PRIVACY AND SEPARATION.
BETWEEN THE EXISTING RESIDENTS.
THIS TRAFFIC WILL BE VERY NEW TO THEM, AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS ALL THE CONVERSATIONS UP TO THIS POINT WHERE IT WAS GOING TO BE A VERY NATURAL LOTS OF LIKE TRAILS, BUT MOVING PEOPLE AND NOT NECESSARILY PEOPLE PLAYING RIGHT BEHIND YOUR BACKYARD? SURE.
AND I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE AN ADJUSTMENT TO THOSE LIVING ON.
IS THAT STILLWATER AND THE OTHER STREETS THAT BACK UP TO IT? ABSOLUTELY.
AND I THINK THAT'S THE BIG PICTURE THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND IS THE CONCEPT OF THE STAYING NATURAL IS STILL VERY PREVALENT, EVEN WITH THE DECOMPOSED GRANITE AND THE NATURE THEMED PLAYGROUNDS AND THE OPEN SPACE, YOU KNOW, OTHER THAN THE SPORTS COURT AND A BARRIER FREE PLAYGROUND THAT WE WILL ALSO THEME TO LOOK
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VERY NATURAL THIS SHOULD STILL FEEL LIKE A VERY NATURAL SPACE.IT SHOULDN'T FEEL OVER PROGRAMED.
IT SHOULDN'T FEEL STUFFY OR CONGESTED WITH MULTIPLE USES.
IT'S BIG ENOUGH THAT WE CAN SPREAD THOSE OUT, AND IT'S STILL FEEL VERY NATURAL OUT THERE.
JEN, I WANT TO THANK YOU, FIRST OF ALL, FOR CHANGING THE PARADIGM.
I KNOW THIS PARK CREATED A WHOLE DIFFERENT CONCEPT OF PUTTING THE COMMUNITY FIRST AND ALLOWED THEM TO BE ON THE FRONT END BEING ABLE TO DECIDE WHAT THEY WANT.
THE PARKING IS I CAN KIND OF LIVING ON STILLWATER I CAN TELL YOU THE CONCERN OF THE ORIGINAL PARKING HAD TO DO WITH IT BEING AT THE END OF THE CUL DE SAC.
AND SO MANY PEOPLE DRIVE THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH ALL THE LITTLES PLAYING.
SO I THINK THAT'S WHY YOU SAW NO PARKING.
AND THAT IS THE REASON I BROUGHT UP THE SPORT COURT OF MOVING IT OUT OF, SAY, THE CUL DE SAC BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO CONGEST THE CUL DE SAC.
I REALLY DON'T THINK IT BELONGS THERE AND LIKE YOU SAID, WE CAN MOVE THAT.
SO I THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THE PARKING UP ON THE OTHER SIDE, WHICH WILL ALLOW BETTER FLOW OFF OF A MAJOR ROADWAY AND EVERYTHING.
SO THAT'S GOING TO TAKE CARE OF THAT PARKING ISSUE.
AND AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR CHANGING THE WAY OF DOING BUSINESS AND PUTTING THE CITIZENS FIRST, BECAUSE THIS LOOKS DIFFERENT.
AND I THINK THAT THIS SPEAKS TRUER TO WHAT PEOPLE WERE REALLY WANTING FROM THAT FIRST TIME, I THINK THEY SAW SOME AMENITIES THAT WERE SCARY AND THEY WERE JUST PROPOSALS, BUT ABSOLUTELY HEARD THAT FEEDBACK.
AND I THINK THIS THIS REALLY IS WHAT EVERYONE IS REQUESTING, BOTH FROM THE SHANNON CREEK NEIGHBORHOOD AND FROM THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY.
PARKING IS GOING TO BE ONE OF THOSE THINGS WE HAVE TO ADDRESS WHEN WE GET THERE.
WHERE CAN WE PUT IT THAT KIND OF COMPROMISES AND MAKES THE NEIGHBORHOODS ALL FEEL SAFE, BUT ALSO PROVIDES ACCESS TO THIS PARK? CAN YOU REMIND US AND THE CITIZENS THE FUNDING MECHANISM FOR THIS, PLEASE? YES.
SO THIS IS FUNDED THROUGH 4B DEBT.
WE WILL ISSUE A CO BOND FOR THIS.
IT IS NOT FUNDED THROUGH OUR GENERAL FUND.
AND I THINK IT'S JUST IMPORTANT THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU KNOW, ALBEIT IT'S IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT THE CONCERN IS THAT IT'S NOT JUST THEIR PARK, THIS IS A PUBLIC PARK.
SO THAT'S KIND OF IMPORTANT BECAUSE I DID JUST READ A COUPLE OF POST-IT NOTES THAT SAYS, CAN WE DO A SECRET ENTRANCE SO PEOPLE DON'T KNOW HOW TO GET IN? AND I THOUGHT, WELL, IT'S A PUBLIC PARK.
WE RECEIVED A FEW COMMENTS ABOUT FENCING OFF THE WHOLE PARK OR, YOU KNOW, ONLY PROVIDING GATED ENTRANCE.
YEAH, IT'S NOT A NEIGHBORHOOD HOA PARK.
WE HAVEN'T ACTUALLY NAMED THIS PARK, CORRECT? NO, IT'S UNDEVELOPED CURRENTLY.
WE COULD CALL IT CANDLER PARK.
WE COULD CALL IT WHATEVER WE COULD DO A NAMING CONTEST AND WE'LL ACTUALLY BRING THAT DOG PARK VERSION OF THAT JUST THINKING THROUGH LIKE WHERE TAMARA WAS GOING.
AS FAR AS IF WE DON'T PROVIDE PARKING, PEOPLE WILL USE STREETS AND BLOCK DRIVEWAYS, AND THEY'RE GOING TO GO TO IT.
I DON'T KNOW HOW WELL THIS WOULD BE RECEIVED AND I'M JUST THROWING IT OUT THERE.
IF IT'S TO ME, IF IT'S CALLED SHANNON CREEK, IT'S IMPLIED THAT THE PARKING IS IN THROUGH SHANNON CREEK OR YOU ACCESS IT ONLY THROUGH THAT NEIGHBORHOOD IF IT'S NAMED SOMETHING LIKE CANDLER PARK DOES, WHERE LET'S SAY PARKING ENDS UP OPTION B AND WE NAME IT CANDLER PARK, THEN THAT GIVES THE PERCEPTION THAT THE PART THAT HOW YOU ENTER IT, WHERE THE PARKING IS, IS OFF OF CANDLER.
AND THEN LET'S SAY IF IT'S PARKING OPTION, I'M JUST THROWING JUST SOME IDEAS BECAUSE IN MY HEAD, LIKE IF I SAY I'M GOING TO SHANNON CREEK PARK, WELL, I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH SHANNON CREEK DEVELOPMENT TO GET THERE.
THAT WOULD JUST BE MY THINKING.
YEAH, I KNOW I GO TO OAK VALLEY TO ACCESS THAT.
IF IT WERE TECHNICALLY NOT IN OAK VALLEY AND IT SAT ON HIDDEN CREEK INSTEAD, YOU KNOW, AND IT WERE CALLED HIDDEN CREEK PARK AND THEN I WOULD THINK I'D ACCESS THAT THROUGH HIDDEN CREEK.
I THINK THAT'S VALID, AND THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.
AND WHAT DID YOU TELL ME? BRYAN THE OTHER DAY IT'S LIKE 4000 HOMES AROUND THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT TOO AS WELL.
YEAH, I THINK IT WAS 4000 HOMES WITHIN A MILE RADIUS.
BUT YEAH, WITHIN A ONE MILE RADIUS, WE MAILED LIKE FORTY ONE HUNDRED POSTCARDS WHEN WE DID THE TOWN HALL.
SO OTHER THING I WOULD LIKE US TO BE EXTREMELY CAUTIOUS ON BECAUSE I'VE WALKED THIS PROPERTY MOSTLY ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE, WHERE THE BIG OPEN GREEN SPACE IS, IS THE DRAINAGE AND REALLY GETTING THIS PARK DONE CORRECTLY BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE'RE GOING BACK TO TWO DIFFERENT PARKS RIGHT NOW AND HAVING TO REDO DRAINAGE AND FIX WHERE THE FLOODING IS OVER THE WALKWAYS.
AND THIS IS ALREADY PRETTY MARSHY.
YOU KNOW, IT'S ALREADY PRETTY WET WHEN YOU'RE OUT THERE, EVEN THAT GREEN SPACE.
SO I WOULD, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAD TO GIVE A LITTLE ON SOMETHING TO BE ABLE TO GET BETTER ON THAT.
BECAUSE THAT WE CAN ALWAYS BUY MORE STRUCTURES ABOVE THE LAND, BUT PREPPING THE LAND BELOW AND MAKING SURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO GO BACK AND THEN REDIG
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THINGS UP, THERE'S ALWAYS SO MUCH MORE COST INVOLVED IN THAT.SO FOR ME, I'M UBER CAUTIOUS ON MAKING SURE WE GET GRADING AND DRAINAGE PROPER ON THIS, SO WE'RE NOT HAVING TO DIG BACK UP EVEN FIVE OR 10 YEARS FROM NOW.
WELL, IT'S NOT A FORMAL APPROVAL, IT'S JUST FEEDBACK, I JUST NEED GUIDANCE ON WHICH BUDGET YOU GUYS WOULD LIKE ME TO PROCEED WITH.
I WILL BE BRINGING THE CIP TO YOU NEXT WEEK, SO I'LL PUT THIS BUDGET INTO THAT CONFIGURATION.
OK, WELL, SOME OF THE THINGS I WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT, WE BUILD THIS AND I'M FINE WITH IT.
GREAT JOB, BUT YOU NEED TO LOOK AT MAINTENANCE ON THIS.
YOU KNOW, YOU BUILD IT ONE THING, THEN YOU'LL SPEND MORE THAN WHAT YOU PAID FOR IT, TAKING CARE OF IT.
YOU'VE GOT SOME GRANITE THOSE ARE LOOSE GRANULES, AREN'T THEY IN THE WALKWAYS? THE DG YES, SIR.
YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T STAY IN THE PATH.
YOU KNOW, THEY GET WE'LL DO A BORDER.
WE'LL PROBABLY DO A CONCRETE MO-STRIP BORDER JUST TO ENSURE THAT IT STAYS AND THEN WE'LL INLAY IT.
BUT WE'LL LOSE A LITTLE BIT OF IT.
WHAT'S WRONG WITH JUST GOING WITH CONCRETE ON THAT? I MEAN, I KNOW THAT AESTHETICALLY IT'S NICE.
WELL, WE GOT TO LOOK AT LONG TERM, OK? AND MAINTENANCE THE WETLANDS.
YOU GOT MOSQUITOES, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DEAL WITH THAT.
BUT IF YOU WANT THE WETLANDS IF IT'S A TRUE WETLAND THAT SHOULDN'T HAVE MOSQUITOES BECAUSE MOSQUITOES ONLY DO WHERE IT'S STAGNANT [INAUDIBLE] WETLANDS SHOULD BE MOVING.
BUT IF YOU MESS IT UP, WE'LL TOTALLY GET MOSQUITOES.
SO HOW DO YOU MOVE THE WATER IS YOUR.
DO YOU HAVE A PUMP? FLOWING, AS WELL AS THE VEGETATION WITHIN.
OK, SO WHAT'S THE MAINTENANCE ON THAT KIND OF THING? IF IT'S BUILT PROPERLY IS THE SAME AS THE POND.
IT WON'T BE THAT MUCH DIFFERENCE.
WE WOULDN'T HAVE A YEAR ROUND WETLAND SOME PORTIONS OF THE YEAR WHEN WE'RE NOT GETTING A LOT OF RAINFALL, IT'LL DRY OUT.
AND THEN WHEN WE START GETTING INTO A WET SEASON, IT'LL FILL BACK UP.
I WANT YOU TO GIVE SHANNON CREEK EVERYTHING THEY WANT.
IT IS TIED TO THE MONEY A LITTLE BIT I LIKE FOR YOU TO GET UNDER THREE MILLION.
IF IT DOESN'T HAPPEN, IT DOESN'T HAPPEN.
BUT THEN AGAIN, DON'T MAKE THIS SOME LITTLE PARK THAT'S DELICATE.
YOU KNOW, YOU PUT ALL THE LITTLE FLOWERS HERE AND ALL THE LITTLE FLOWERS THERE.
BUT SOMEONE'S GOT TO TAKE CARE OF THOSE LITTLE FLOWERS.
OK, SO LONG TERM, TRY TO GET IT UNDER THREE.
AND TAKE IT EASY ON THE MAINTENANCE.
I THINK IN GOING WITH THE NATURAL THEME, IT'S PLANTING LOTS OF NATURAL GRASS, NATURAL FLOWERS.
IT'S A LOT OF SEEDING UP FRONT.
STUFF THAT COMES BACK EVERY YEAR THAT DOESN'T REQUIRE A LOT OF FROU FROU.
AND I THINK JUST IN GENERAL, PEOPLE ARE MOVING.
EVEN AT MY OWN HOUSE, I'VE MOVED TOWARD THINGS THAT I DON'T HAVE TO PLAN EVERY YEAR.
SO I MEAN, AND IT SAVES ON A LOT OF ENDS, I'M SURE TO JUST PLANT THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO BE SELF MAINTAINING.
I'D LIKE TO KIND OF MEET IN THE MIDDLE BETWEEN THESE AND GO FOR THREE.
MY CONCERN WITH GOING WITH A THREE POINT SIX IS THAT IT'S GOING TO GO HIGHER.
IT'S GOING TO GO HIGHER BECAUSE OF THE PRICE OF MATERIALS.
AND IT JUST SEEMS TO BE THE WAY WE'VE BEEN TRENDING IN THE LAST YEAR SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE OF WE SET A BUDGET AND THEN, WELL, IT'S GOING TO GO A HUNDRED AND FIFTY TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND ABOVE.
AND SO WE NEED TO GO LOWER SO THAT WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF WIGGLE ROOM AND I DON'T MEAN LIKE $600,000 WORTH OF WIGGLE ROOM, BUT I REALIZE THAT MEANS SOME THINGS, YOU KNOW, WOULD HAVE TO GO OR WE REDUCE THE SIZE OF SOMETHING AND WE CAN ALWAYS ADD ON MORE.
WE CAN DO THAT IN PHASES IF NEED BE.
AND I THINK THAT'S PART OF WHAT WE'LL BRING YOU WITH THE CIP AS WELL IS WE'LL SHOW YOU, YOU KNOW, IF WE WERE TO APPROVE THIS AT THIS FULL BUDGET, THESE ARE THINGS WE CAN SHIFT IN THE CIP TO BE ABLE TO ACHIEVE BOTH OR WE CAN PHASE THIS OUT AS WELL.
MOST LIKELY, THIS WILL BE IN DESIGN ALL OF THIS YEAR BASED ON HOW HEAVY OUR PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT WILL BE FOR IT.
SO IT'LL BE SPREAD OUT OVER MULTIPLE YEARS AS WE ISSUE THE DEBT.
THE OTHER THING WITH IT WOULD BE IS IF YOU GUYS CHOOSE TO SET A BUDGET OF THREE THIS EVENING, THEN WE'LL BRING YOU A MENU ONCE WE GET INTO DESIGN OF WHAT THINGS COST AND SHOW YOU, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHAT WE WOULD POTENTIALLY NEED TO CUT TO GET IT TO THAT NUMBER.
JEN FROM AN ENGINEERING STANDPOINT, HOW DO WE DEAL WITH THE FACT THAT THE ENTIRE AREA IS IN THE 100 YEAR FLOODPLAIN, DO WE ELEVATE THE STRUCTURES ABOVE THE FLOODPLAIN LEVEL, LIKE THE RESTROOMS PLAY AREAS.
SO THOSE WE WOULD NEED TO ELEVATE AND THEN WE WOULD NEED TO NET ZERO ON OUR GRADING.
SO WHATEVER WE MOVE, WE GOT TO PUT BACK SOMEWHERE ELSE.
SO AS LONG AS OUR GRADING STAYS THE SAME, THE POND WILL HELP WITH A LOT OF THAT.
THAT'S REALLY WHERE WE'RE HOPING TO DIRECT A LOT OF THE DRAINAGE.
OK, I'M JUST CURIOUS HOW THAT WOULD WORK.
I KNOW WE HAVE BAILEY LAKE, WHICH IS FLOOD PLAIN AS WELL, BUT THE STRUCTURES AND EVERYTHING
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EVERYTHING HAVE TO BE ELEVATED OUT OF THAT.I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS THE WAY YOU DID CRITIQUE IT.
IMPROVE IT SO WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT ONE THE SAME WAY.
DO YOU LIKE THE WAY IT WORKED OUT THIS TIME? YEAH, I THINK THIS ALLOWS BOTH THE COMMUNITY AND STAFF TO FEEL LIKE WHATEVER WE'RE PRESENTING TO THE BOARD AND TO COUNCIL THAT YOU GUYS ARE GETTING THE TRUE FEEL OF WHAT PROFESSIONALLY WE FEEL CAN FIT IN THE PARK AND WHAT THE COMMUNITY IS REQUESTING.
WHAT I LIKE ABOUT IT, IT COMES TO COUNCIL FEWER TIMES AND WE GET STUFF DONE.
WE GOT A LOT OF PARKS PROJECTS.
WHICH BUDGET? [LAUGHTER] I'M GOING TO SPEAK FOR THE FULL CONCEPT.
I DON'T KNOW WHETHER ANY OF THESE NUMBERS ARE LIKELY TO BE REAL OR NOT, I MEAN, BY THE TIME WE GET AROUND TO ACTUALLY DRIVING NAILS AND HAULING CONCRETE, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THAT'S GOING TO BE REACHABLE OR NOT, BUT I LIKE THE FACT THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT THE FULL AMOUNT AND I WOULD SUPPORT THE PARK BOARD'S RECOMMENDATION ON THAT.
I THINK THE FULL AMOUNT OF MOVING FORWARD AND, YOU KNOW, WITH THE MENU, WE CAN DEFINITELY WITH THAT MENU GO AT THE TAIL END OF THIS.
FIGURE OUT WHAT WE CAN STRIKE, NOT STRIKE TO GET WHERE WE'RE AT A COMFORTABLE NUMBER.
BUT I THINK FULL I THINK THE FULL IS WHERE WE NEED TO GO TO START WITH.
OK MAYOR AND COUNCIL THAT'S GOING TO BRING US TO ITEM 8B.
[B. Receive a report and hold a discussion on diversity and inclusion program discussed at the July 12, 2021, special council meeting. (Presenters: Victoria Johnson, Council Place 1 and Tamara Payne, Council Place 4)]
JEN IF YOU COULD PULL UP THEIR PRESENTATION, PLEASE AND START IT AS A SLIDESHOW.HOLD A DISCUSSION ON DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION PROGRAM DISCUSSED AT THE JULY 12, 2021 SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING.
TONIGHT'S PRESENTERS ARE VICTORIA JOHNSON COUNCIL PLACE ONE AND TAMARA PAYNE, COUNCIL PLACE FOUR, AND JAMES IS PULLING UP YOUR PRESENTATION FOR YOU.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS, STAFF, TODAY WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT WHAT WAS BROUGHT TO YOU SEVERAL MONTHS AGO, FIRST BY MYSELF AND THEN BY MY COLLEAGUE COUNCIL MEMBER VICTORIA JOHNSON, WHERE WE HAD ASKED TO EXPLORE OPTIONS FOR INVOLVING ALL COMMUNITY MEMBERS IN A CITY PROCESSES AND EVENTS.
WE INITIALLY CALLED IT DIVERSITY INCLUSION, AND WE TALKED ABOUT IN A JULY 12TH WORK SESSION.
AND DURING THAT DISCUSSION, WE HAD ALL TALKED ABOUT REPURPOSING THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE ON PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES BOARD TO SERVE A MORE BROAD AUDIENCE AND ALSO PASSING A RESOLUTION TO ENCOURAGE DIVERSITY INCLUSION AND ALSO TO ENCOURAGE CITY DEPARTMENTS TO PLEDGE TO INCORPORATE THESE IDEAS INTO THEIR PROGRAMS. ON AUGUST 16TH, THIS WAS BROUGHT FORWARD TO US ACTUALLY AS A VOTE, AND I HAD REQUESTED AFTER CONCURRING WITH MY COLLEAGUE TO TABLE THIS DISCUSSION ON REPURPOSING THE ADA COMMITTEE TO EVALUATE SOME OTHER OPTIONS.
THIS WAS BASED ON FEEDBACK AND FROM THE COMMUNITY AND OUR EXPLORATION AS WELL OF UNDERSTANDING THAT THE ADA COMMITTEE ACTUALLY HAS A VERY SPECIFIC CHARGE AND PURPOSE.
AND WE WANTED TO KEEP TO THE ORIGINAL CHARGE AND PURPOSE OF THE ADA COMMITTEE AND HONOR THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ON THAT COMMITTEE AND THE PURPOSE OF WHICH THEY WERE DOING.
SO ON OCTOBER 13TH MYSELF AND COUNCIL MEMBER JOHNSON MET WITH CITY STAFF TO FURTHER DISCUSS THE OPTIONS FOR A NEW TYPE OF CITY COMMITTEE TO PRESENT TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
SO WHEN DISCUSSING WHAT THIS COMMITTEE WOULD LOOK LIKE, WE JUST WE BOTH CAME TO THE TABLE WITH IDEAS AND WE DISCUSSED A NUMBER OF THESE DURING THE WORK SESSION AND IT'S ABOUT INVOLVING THE GREATER COMMUNITY AND HELPING PEOPLE FEEL LIKE THEY BELONG.
AND I'VE MENTIONED SEVERAL EXAMPLES OF, YOU KNOW, WHEN SOMEONE, IF YOU'RE PASSIONATE ABOUT THE PARKS BOARD, YOU'RE GOING TO APPROACH A PARK BOARD MEMBER ABOUT AN IDEA OR AN ISSUE THAT YOU'RE HAVING OR YOU'RE WANTING TO SEE SOMETHING NEW IN A PARK.
YOU'RE GOING TO GO TO A PARK BOARD MEMBER BECAUSE YOU HAVE LIKE YOU SHARE IN THAT PASSION OR YOU SHARE IN THOSE INTEREST.
AND I FEEL AS THOUGH IF PEOPLE HAVE THE SAME INTEREST AND THEY'RE SERVING
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ON A COMMITTEE TOGETHER, YOU'RE GOING TO KNOW WHO TO APPROACH WITH AN IDEA OR A SHARED CONCEPT OR SOMETHING THAT CAN BE TACKLED.AND SO WE JUST TRULY FELT LIKE WE WANT TO CREATE A SPACE WHERE PEOPLE OF ALL DIFFERENT BACKGROUNDS, ETHNICITIES, PASSIONS CAN COME TOGETHER AND BRING US AS A CITY TO SHARE IN WHAT'S DIFFERENT AND UNIQUE AND BEAUTIFUL ABOUT ALL OF US.
AND SO WE CAME UP WITH THIS IDEA OF BETTER TOGETHER.
AND I FOUND A QUOTE FROM HELEN KELLER, AND SHE SAID ALONE, WE CAN DO SO LITTLE.
AND I JUST FELT LIKE OR WE FELT WITH AN OPEN FORUM FOR PEOPLE TO SHARE PASSION AND USE THEIR PASSION TO INSPIRE OTHERS.
WE ALL COME FROM DIFFERENT BACKGROUNDS AND DIFFERENT EXPERIENCES.
WE CAN LEARN FROM EACH OTHER AND WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN THE LIVES OF OTHERS.
AND BY CREATING THIS COMMITTEE, I BELIEVE THAT WE'RE COMMITTING TO HAVING CONVERSATIONS, FINDING SOLUTIONS, SHARING COMPASSION AND LIFTING EACH OTHER UP.
THE PROPOSED MISSION IN CHARGE IS TO GROW, NURTURE AND SUSTAIN THE COMMUNITY BY CELEBRATING AND EMBRACING A-HA.
I FORGOT THE MOSAIC OF LIVED EXPERIENCES AND VARIED PERSPECTIVES OF ALL BURLESON CITIZENS.
LIKE THIS IMAGE HERE THAT CAME TOGETHER, THEY'RE SQUARES OF ALL DIFFERENT COLORS.
AND, WELL, THEY'RE NOT EVEN ALL SQUARES, THEY'RE ALL DIFFERENT SHAPES AND COLORS.
AND BUT TOGETHER THEY CREATE THIS BEAUTIFUL IMAGE.
AND THAT'S WHAT'S FUN ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY IS WE ALL HAVE.
WE'RE BEAUTIFUL AND WE'RE UNIQUE AND WE'RE DIFFERENT AND WE ALL COME TOGETHER AND WE CAN SHARE AND CELEBRATE AND EDUCATE AND THERE'S SO MUCH THAT WE COULD BE DOING TO INSPIRE OTHERS AND HELP PEOPLE FEEL A SENSE OF BELONGING IN THIS COMMUNITY.
AND PERSONALLY, I JUST BELIEVE IF PEOPLE FEEL LIKE THEY BELONG, THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE A SENSE OF OWNERSHIP.
AND IF YOU HAVE A SENSE OF OWNERSHIP, YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE CARE OF SOMETHING THAT'S IMPORTANT TO YOU.
THEY'RE GOING TO GET INVOLVED.
MAYOR, YOU SPEAK OF THIS A LOT WHEN YOU SAY YOU WANT PEOPLE PARTICIPATING ON COMMITTEES AND BOARDS AND COMING TO MEETINGS, WELL, IF THEY FEEL LIKE THEY HAVE OWNERSHIP IN SOMETHING.
THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE BETTER CARE OF IT, VOICE THEIR OPINIONS AND GET INVOLVED, AND IT REALLY TAKES ALL OF US TO MAKE A COMMUNITY.
AND AS MUCH AS WE HEAR ABOUT HOW FAST WE'RE GROWING, THE WAY WE'RE GOING TO KEEP THAT SMALL TOWN FEEL IS BY CONNECTING WITH EACH OTHER, GETTING TO KNOW OUR NEIGHBORS AND AND HAVING COMPASSION AND SHARING COMPASSION AND LIFTING EACH OTHER UP.
THE CHARGE THAT WE SEE FOR THIS NEW PROPOSED COMMITTEE IS TO ACTIVELY LOOK FOR AVENUES TO CREATE OPPORTUNITIES TO ENGAGE WITH OUR COMMUNITY AND PROMOTE VARIED PERSPECTIVES AND LIVED EXPERIENCES WITH MEASURABLE OUTCOMES TO FULFILL OUR MISSION.
SO THINGS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE IT'S COMING TO COUNCIL, FOR EXAMPLE, MYSELF AND COUNCIL MEMBER PAYNE AND OTHERS HAVE BROUGHT UP DIFFERENT AWARENESS AND NATIONAL.
SO NOVEMBER 1ST, WHAT MARKED THE NATIONAL NATIVE AMERICAN HERITAGE MONTH.
AND THAT, FOR EXAMPLE, COULD HAVE BEEN BROUGHT FORWARD BY THIS COMMITTEE? AND MAYBE THEY GIVE US A FACT OR TWO ABOUT THE MONTH OR HOW IT WAS ESTABLISHED OR SOMETHING THAT OUR COMMUNITY IS DOING.
THE LAST MONTH OR BETWEEN SEPTEMBER AND OCTOBER, WHEN IT WAS HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH, OUR LIBRARY HAD PULLED TOGETHER RESOURCES AND THEY WERE DOING DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES, AND I MENTIONED THOSE IN A COUNCIL MEETING.
AND SO THIS COMMITTEE COULD PROMOTE THOSE THAT ALREADY EXIST IN OUR COMMUNITY AND FIND NEW OPPORTUNITIES TO HIGHLIGHT OTHER THINGS.
THERE'S I'M CONTINUOUSLY LEARNING ABOUT ART, FASHION, MUSIC, POETRY, LITERATURE, THINGS THAT COME FROM ALL DIFFERENT CULTURES AND BACKGROUNDS AND PERSPECTIVES.
AND IT'S HERE AND WE'RE JUST CREATING THE SPACE TO HIGHLIGHT IT.
SO THIS IS SOME EXAMPLES CELEBRATING BURLESON.
THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE HAVE ALREADY DONE THERE.
WE USED TO HAVE A VERY A WONDERFULLY ATTENDED AND PARTICIPATED IN CINCO DE MAYO FESTIVAL.
AND I PERSONALLY MISS THAT A LOT BECAUSE THE FOOD WAS AMAZING.
RONNIE, I BELIEVE YOU TALKED ABOUT THE GENTLEMAN THAT NATIVE AMERICAN WITH THE TEEPEE AND EDUCATIONAL INFORMATION THAT HE HAD, AND YOU WERE REALLY ENTHRALLED BY THE STUFF THAT HE SHARED.
THERE HAVE BEEN ART EVENTS IN OLD TOWN WALKING, AND THERE HAVE BEEN BEAUTIFUL PIECES OF ART CREATED BY PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER THIS COMMUNITY WITH DIFFERENT
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BACKGROUNDS.AND THERE'S JUST SO MUCH THAT WE CAN LEARN FROM EACH OTHER AND HIGHLIGHT WHAT'S BEAUTIFUL.
AND THERE'S A SPECIAL LADY HERE TONIGHT.
SHE IS MS. BURLESON'S TEEN, AND I INVITED HER TO TONIGHT'S MEETING AND TOLD HER THAT WE'D BE TALKING ABOUT THIS.
I HAD THE GREAT PLEASURE OF MEETING HER AT RUSSELL FARM AND AND SHE IS TAKING ON DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION AS A CHARGE FOR HER POSITION.
AND SO THERE ARE SO MANY UNIQUE AND DIFFERENT THINGS GOING ON ALREADY IN OUR COMMUNITY, AND WE JUST WANT TO HAVE THE SPACE TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.
AND I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO SPEAK TO US IN JUST A MINUTE.
NO WE'LL FINISH THIS AND THEN.
SO IF YOU GUYS WILL NOTICE SOMETHING THAT WAS SAID, A LOT IS CELEBRATING, RIGHT? YES, WE WILL BE HAVING CONVERSATIONS AND SOMETIMES THEY MAY BE DIFFICULT CONVERSATIONS, BUT WE REALLY WANT TO CELEBRATE OUR COMMUNITY AND THE DIFFERENCES AND THE THINGS WE ACTUALLY HAVE MORE LIKE THAN NOT.
AND SO WHAT WE SEE AS THE PILLARS OF SUCCESS FOR THIS COMMITTEE MOVING FORWARD IS TO COLLABORATE WITH THE CITY'S VARIED COMMUNITY GROUPS AND ORGANIZATIONS TO STRENGTHEN THE COMMUNITY CONNECTION.
SO THERE ALREADY ARE A LOT OF GREAT GROUPS OUT THERE THAT DO A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS, I.E. WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT BEING THE FOUNDERS DAY OR TAKING OVER THINGS THAT ALREADY EXIST, BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT SAYING, HEY, HOW DO WE WORK WITH THEM? HOW DOES THIS COMMITTEE COLLABORATE WITH THEM TO CREATE MORE COMMUNITY CONNECTIONS AND STRENGTHEN OUR COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE? AND THEN WE WANT TO FOSTER A SENSE OF UNITY, ACCEPTANCE AND BELONGING THROUGH INTERACTION, APPRECIATION AND ACKNOWLEDGMENT WITH ALL CITIZENS.
SO AS WE NOTED, THE APPRECIATION COUNCIL MEMBER JOHNSON ALREADY STATED.
YOU KNOW, I'M BIG ON WOMEN'S HISTORY MONTH AND HELPING WOMEN TO SUCCEED IN BUSINESS, SO THAT COULD BE A CHARGE THAT THE COMMITTEE COULD LOOK INTO.
AND WHAT COULD THEY DO TO ACTUALLY BE A PART OF THAT AND BRING THAT FORWARD WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY TO CELEBRATE THE WOMEN ENTREPRENEURS THAT WE HAVE IN OUR CITY? THAT'S WHAT THIS COMMITTEE COULD DO.
IT'S ABOUT CELEBRATING AND BRINGING US ALL TOGETHER.
AND THEN FINALLY, WHICH WE FEEL IS CRITICAL TO ANY COMMITTEE IS ESTABLISHING GOALS, OPPORTUNITIES AND MEASURABLE OUTCOMES TO FULFILL THE MISSION.
IF WE DON'T SET FORTH SOME SORT OF OUTCOMES, THEN THEY'RE JUST KIND OF A COMMITTEE OUT THERE WITH NOT KNOWING WHAT THEY'RE SHOOTING FOR.
SO WE ACTUALLY WANT TO HAVE SOME OUTCOMES AND SOME THINGS THAT THEY CAN COME BACK AND REPORT TO US AS A COUNCIL AND TELL US WHAT'S HAPPENING, THIS IS WHAT WE FOUND.
WE DON'T WANT THEM KIND OF FLOATING IN THE WIND WITHOUT, OH, WE'LL MEET WHENEVER WE WANT THEM TO HAVE REGULAR MEETING DATES, WE WANT THEM TO FEEL A PART OF THIS COMMUNITY AND THAT THEY ARE LENDING A VOICE FOR THE REST OF THE CITIZENS OUT THERE.
SO MOVING FORWARD, BASICALLY, WE BELIEVE THAT THE COUNCIL DEVELOPS THE COMMITTEE STRUCTURE IF YOU GUYS APPROVE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS.
THAT WOULD BE A RESOLUTION ESTABLISHING A NEW COMMITTEE AND WE WOULD APPOINT THE MEMBERS.
AND THEN THE COMMITTEE CREATES THE PILLARS OF SUCCESS TO SUPPORT THE CHARGE.
AND THEN THE SUBCOMMITTEES TO PROMOTE AND SUPPORT EACH PILLAR.
SO WE'VE KIND OF LOOKED AT THIS LIKE WE GAVE YOU A LITTLE IDEA WITH SHOWING YOU THE PILLARS.
BUT AS WE WERE WORKING ON THE MISSION AND THE CHARGE, WE'D COME UP WITH A LOT OF DIFFERENT STATEMENTS THAT COULD HAVE BEEN THE MISSION OR THE CHARGE.
AND WHAT WE REALIZED WAS THESE WERE THE MAIN ONES THAT WE DEVELOPED THE MISSION IN CHARGE FROM.
AND THEN THERE WERE A LOT OF THEM THAT ACTUALLY SUPPORTED HOW DO WE GET THAT DONE.
SO THE PILLARS ARE ACTUALLY LIKE THE LITTLE PIECES OF IT, AND THEN WE BELIEVE THOSE WOULD BE SUBCOMMITTEES.
OF COURSE, THE COMMITTEE COULD GET TOGETHER AND GO, YEAH, WE KIND OF SEE IT MOVING THIS WAY AS WELL.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE OUR FINGER OVER THE WHOLE THING AND SAY, YOU CAN'T DO THAT, AND THEN THE COMMITTEE WILL BEGIN TO BE WORKING IN THE COMMUNITY AND REPORTING BACK TO COUNCIL, MOST IMPORTANTLY, ESTABLISHING COUNCIL MEETING REPORT DATES SO THAT WE HEAR FROM THEM AND WE KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
OVERALL, THIS COMES DOWN TO ONE THING IS THAT BURLESON IS BETTER TOGETHER AND WE HOPE BY OUR COLLABORATION HERE TOGETHER IN BRINGING THIS FORWARD TO YOU GUYS THAT YOU WOULD SEE THAT OUR GOAL IS ONLY TO HELP UNITE OUR COMMUNITY AND TO CELEBRATE THE MOSAIC OF LIVED EXPERIENCES.
THAT'S CULTURAL, THAT'S MALE, FEMALE IT ENGAGES A WHOLE LOT OF ASPECTS TO THIS.
AND IF WE WANT TO HEAR FROM OH, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND LADIES AND GENTLEMEN OF THE COUNCIL.
I AM LILLIANN NUNLEY I AM MS. BURLESON'S OUTSTANDING TEEN 2022.
AND SO THIS YEAR I WILL BE REPRESENTING BURLESON AND MISS TEXAS.
AND IN THE MISS AMERICA ORGANIZATION, EACH CANDIDATE HAS TO PICK A SOCIAL IMPACT INITIATIVE AND MINE WAS DIVERSITY, EQUITY AND INCLUSION.
AND I CHOSE THIS BECAUSE IT HAS MADE ME WHO I AM TODAY.
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AS A BIRACIAL INDIVIDUAL.I'M A WOMAN, I'M AN ART STUDENT, I'M A FOUR SPORT ATHLETE AND I AM ONE OF 10 SIBLINGS.
AND IN MY FAMILY, DIVERSITY IS HIGHLIGHTED EVERY DAY.
MY OLDEST SISTER IS AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN WOMAN, A MOTHER AND THE FIRST TO GRADUATE FROM COLLEGE OUT OF ALL 10 OF OUR SIBLINGS.
MY SISTER IS A PART OF THE LGBTQIA PLUS COMMUNITY, AND THESE ARE JUST THREE EXAMPLES OF HOW DIVERSE MY FAMILY IS.
AND SOME PEOPLE MIGHT THINK THIS IS WHERE OUR HEADS START BUTTING AND PEOPLE START TO DISAGREE.
BUT THIS HAS ONLY MADE OUR BOND STRONGER AND MADE OUR FAMILY STRONGER.
I WOULD LIKE YOU GUYS TO CONSIDER THIS COUNCIL BECAUSE IT IS SO GREAT WHEN WE START EMBRACING EACH OTHER'S DIFFERENCES, AND I THINK IT'LL HELP BRIDGE MEMBERS OF SOCIETY AND BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER.
WELL, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? [LAUGHTER] WE HAD NO IDEA WHAT TO EXPECT, SO YOU'VE GOT TO GIVE US A MINUTE, OKAY? NO I THINK IT'S GREAT.
I FORGOT TO SAY, JUST SO YOU KNOW, I DID TELL BRYAN THAT WE WERE GOING TO BE IN COSTUMES, AND HE LEGIT LOOKED AT ME AND SAID, REALLY.
[LAUGHTER] THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN GOOD.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW IT WORKS.
I KNOW YOU ALL JUST WENT THE WHOLE PRESENTATION.
BUT, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, ARE YOU ALL GOING TO BE? I KNOW LIKE FOUNDERS DAY IS THIS LIKE COMMUNICATING WHAT WE HAVE GOING ON.
NO I WANT TO GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING.
IT CAN WORK IN CONJUNCTION WITH SOME OF OUR EXISTING.
I MEAN, JUST AS A PARKS BOARD LOOKS AT OUR EXISTING PARKS AND COMES UP WITH IDEAS TO REPLACE OR UPDATE EXISTING.
AND THEN AS WE LOOK AT BUILDING NEW PARKS AND WHAT SHOULD GO IN THEM, WHAT'S WORKED, WHAT HASN'T? THIS IS A COMMITTEE OF OUR COMING FROM ALL DIFFERENT SEGMENTS OF OUR COMMUNITY.
WE'LL ALL HAVE TO DETERMINE HOW THIS COMMITTEE IS MADE UP.
BUT YET A PIECE WILL BE WHAT DO WE DO NOW, WHETHER IT'S EVENTS, YOU KNOW, AND HOW CAN IT SUPPORT THAT OR BE A PART OF THAT? OBVIOUSLY, THERE WAS A PIECE THAT I'D NEVER SEEN AT FOUNDERS DAY BEFORE.
I'VE NEVER SEEN SOMEONE BRING A TEEPEE AND TALK ABOUT THE NATIVE AMERICAN HERITAGE OR PIECE OF THAT.
THAT'S PART OF OUR OUR MAKEUP.
AND SO I THINK THAT THERE'S DEFINITELY SOME OF THAT SOME OF IT JUST MAY BE BRAND NEW.
LIKE, WE HAVEN'T HAD CINCO DE MAYO FESTIVAL AND I THINK THE LAST ONE WAS 2014 OR 2016, ONE OF THOSE.
AND SO IT'S NOT JUST FESTIVALS.
IT COULD JUST BE COMING TO CITY COUNCIL AND RECOGNIZING YOU KNOW NATIONAL NATIVE AMERICAN HERITAGE MONTH AND SAYING, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE SOME THINGS THAT HAPPEN JUST DOING A PROCLAMATION.
IT MIGHT BE COMING AND BRINGING INSTRUMENTS FROM A DIFFERENT CULTURE, DIFFERENT COUNTRY AND SHARING THEM WITH THE COMMUNITY AT A COUNCIL THROUGH A COUNCIL MEETING.
IT COULD ALSO SO THINK ABOUT THE ADA COMMITTEE, WHICH IS ORIGINALLY WHY THERE WAS A THOUGHT TO BLEND THEM TOGETHER.
THE ADA COMMITTEE, ACTUALLY PART OF THEIR CHARGE IS TO LOOK FOR PLACES WITHIN THE CITY AND OPPORTUNITIES WHERE POTENTIALLY NOT ALL AREAS OF DISABILITIES ARE BEING ADDRESSED RIGHT AND TO BRING THAT FORWARD, I.E.
THE PARADE AND STREAMING THE PARADE ONLINE, RIGHT? SO THERE ARE GOING TO BE ISSUES THAT MAYBE COME FROM THE SENIORS THAT THEY ARE NOT BEING HEARD ON, NOT JUST THROUGH THE SENIOR CENTER, BECAUSE THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY WHAT THEY'RE FOR, BUT ISSUES RELATED TO SENIORS ON STEP UPS AT A PARK OR SOMETHING.
I'M JUST THROWING SOME, YOU KNOW, RANDOM OUT THAT THEY CAN BRING FORWARD AND BRING TO THIS COMMUNITY SAY, HEY, I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S BEING MISSED FOR OUR AGE GROUP AND OR I WOULD LOVE TO DO A TALK AT THE LIBRARY BASED ON MAYBE HE'S A WORLD WAR TWO VETERAN OR A VIETNAM VETERAN, AND THEY WANT TO SHARE THEIR STORY WITH THE YOUNGER GENERATION AT THE LIBRARY.
SO IT'S OPPORTUNITIES FOR CONVERSATION RELATED AROUND GENERATIONAL DIFFERENCES, CULTURAL DIFFERENCES, SEXUAL DIFFERENCES, AS WELL AS CELEBRATING AND EVENTS AND ACKNOWLEDGING MOMENTS IN TIME WHERE THEY COULD BE THE PEOPLE LEADING THAT VERSUS ME SAYING EVERY SINGLE MONTH IT'S NATIONAL WOMEN'S HISTORY MONTH.
AND THAT'S IT, RIGHT? SO WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT IT? SO WE NEED SO WE COULD HAVE A COMMITTEE THAT CAN BE A LITTLE BIT MORE PROACTIVE IN CELEBRATING THESE THINGS WITHIN OUR CITY.
THAT PROVIDES A LOT MORE CLARIFICATION.
SO IT COULD BE EVEN SOMETHING WHERE YOU KNOW THAT YOU WERE TALKING OR THE SENIOR THAT'S HAVING TROUBLE AT THE PARKS COULD AT LEAST KNOW TO COME THERE FIRST AND THEN Y'ALL
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CAN SHARE WITH THE PARKS BOARD HEY, WE'VE GOT A REQUEST KIND OF THING, OK.IT'S JUST IN MY EXPERIENCE, MY WORK EXPERIENCE, ALL PUBLIC RELATIONS, COMMUNITY RELATIONS AND PEOPLE APPROACH AND GET INVOLVED AND FEEL AS THOUGH THEY CAN HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH PEOPLE THAT LOOK LIKE THEM OR SOUND LIKE THEM OR HAVE GENERALLY THE SAME INTEREST AND THAT WE'RE A BIG MOSAIC PHOTO.
WE'RE A BIG MOSAIC PIECE THIS COMMUNITY AND WE'RE MADE UP OF SO MANY DIFFERENT BEAUTIFUL PEOPLE, EXPERIENCES, CULTURES, AND THEY'RE GOING TO FEEL A PART OF THIS COMMUNITY AND FEEL LIKE THEY CAN BRING THINGS FORWARD.
IF A COMMITTEE EXISTS TO BRING UP THOSE IDEAS OR CAN BOUNCE THINGS AROUND OR THAT LOOK OR SOUND LIKE THEM.
THE THING IS, IS THAT IF YOU FOCUS ON THE BETTER TOGETHER PART OF IT.
YOU CAN SAY THAT THIS CAN BE A VERY FLUID COMMITTEE, IT COULD CHANGE AND ADAPT AS ALONG WITH THE COMMITTEE, LEARNING MORE ABOUT WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR OUR CITY AND HOW CAN WE BE A PART OF PROMOTING BETTER TOGETHER? BETTER COMMUNICATION IS THAT BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS THAT BEING TOO SIMPLISTIC? YES.
IT'S ONE PART OF IT, FOR SURE.
I'M FINE WITH EVERYTHING YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, GETTING THE WORD OUT TO PEOPLE.
IT'S GOING TO BE THIS COUNCIL'S PROBLEM AND SPREADING IT REALLY IS.
SO AND WE CAN WORK ON THAT, BUT YOU'RE HEADED IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
THAT WAS THE WHOLE POINT WAS TO REALLY BRING SOMETHING TO YOU THAT YOU ALL WOULD BE PROUD OF AS WELL, AND THAT YOU UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS NOT ABOUT DIVISIVENESS, BUT MORE ABOUT UNITY.
AND HOW DO WE BRING THAT TOGETHER BY EMBRACING OUR DIFFERENCES? I'VE BEEN REALLY PROUD OF THIS COUNCIL OF HOW WE GET INTO A PROJECT AND WE TWEAK IT AND WE TWEAK IT AND WE COME UP WITH A GOOD PROJECT.
I MEAN, A GOOD PRODUCT AND WE'LL GET THERE.
WE WILL JUST HOLD US TO THE STONE.
SO IS YOUR DIRECTION THAT WE CAN PROCEED WITH TO THE NEXT STEP? WHAT IS THE NEXT STEP? THE NEXT STEP IS TO DEVELOP CAN WE DISCUSS THAT AND FIND OUT WHAT THEIR AGENDA IS GOING TO BE AND HOW THEY'RE GOING TO DO THAT? MAYBE VISIT ON THAT.
WE'LL DEFER TO OUR GUIDANCE ON THIS.
BY THE WAY, WE HAVE TO SAY THAT WE'VE HAD TREMENDOUS HELP FROM THE CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE.
ALL THREE OF THE STAFF THERE HAVE BEEN TREMENDOUSLY HELPFUL AND VERY BRILLIANT ON THIS, QUITE FRANKLY.
SO AMANDA, CAN YOU HELP US A LITTLE BIT ON WHAT THAT NEXT STEP LOOKS LIKE SINCE? THANK YOU.
IF IT'S THE DIRECTION OF THIS COUNCIL, THEN WE WILL BRING FORWARD.
WE'LL START WORKING ON THE COMMITTEE STRUCTURE AND THAT WILL BE PRESENTED TO COUNCIL.
AND WE'RE NOT SAYING THAT MAY BE THE FIRST ROUND IS JUST THE STARTING POINT.
IT MAY BE TWO BITES AT THE APPLE.
SO TO SAY BEFORE WE COME FORWARD WITH A STRUCTURE THAT WOULD MEET EVERYTHING AND I THINK WHAT THEY'VE SAID, WHAT THEY'VE LAID OUT HERE TOO IS THE IMPORTANT THING IS TO REALIZE THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A SUBCOMMITTEE.
SO YOU TALK ABOUT HOW ARE WE GOING TO GET THE WORD OUT? WE TALKED ABOUT COMMUNITY CHAMPIONS, SO EVERYBODY TAGGING A COMMUNITY CHAMPION TO BE PLACED ON THIS COMMITTEE SO THAT YOU DO HAVE THESE HIGHER LEVEL AT THE COMMUNITY CHAMPIONSHIPS WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO BE PASSIONATE ABOUT WHAT THEIR PILLAR IS OR WHAT THEIR FOCUS IS.
AND THEN WE CREATE THESE SUBCOMMITTEES AND THAT'S HOW YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD UPON IT AND GET MORE ACTIVE MEMBERS IN THERE.
AND I MEAN, IT'S GOING TO BE CONNECTORS, RIGHT? I KNOW OF SOMEONE.
I'VE ALREADY BEEN APPROACHED JUST IN THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WHEN THE COUNCIL HAS TO HAVE THIS ON OUR AGENDA OF PEOPLE THAT WANT TO SERVE ON THIS OR HAVE AN INTEREST OR KNOW OF SOMEONE WHO WOULD BE A GOOD PERSON TO SERVE ON THIS COMMITTEE.
I THINK WORD'S GOING TO GET OUT.
AND I MEAN, WE'RE A VERY FORTUNATE COMMUNITY THAT OUR APPLICATIONS FOR ALL OF OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS ARE WE HAVE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO APPLY EVERY TIME.
AND SO I THINK THAT THIS WILL JUST BE ANOTHER ONE, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S LOOKING AT IT'S A REAL CREATIVE COMMITTEE AND THE PARAMETERS HAVEN'T BEEN SET.
THEY GET TO BE A PART OF DRAFTING HOW DO WE UNITE, WHAT'S DIFFERENT AND UNIQUE ABOUT ALL OF US? AND WE THERE'S SO MUCH MORE THAT UNITES US THAN DIVIDES US, AND THAT'S WHAT WE CAN HIGHLIGHT THROUGH THIS COMMITTEE.
AND THEN IT EXISTS RIGHT WHEN THINGS COME UP, WHEN WE DON'T KNOW WHERE TO HEAD ON SOMETHING LIKE, SHOULD THAT HAVE A RAMP OR SHOULD IT NOT? WE HAVE A COMMITTEE TO BOUNCE THINGS OFF OF AND THAT'S WHAT'S IMPORTANT.
AND THAT GOES BACK TO THAT COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT, THE CITIZEN INVOLVEMENT, IF WE HAVE THE THE PLATFORM FOR PEOPLE TO GET INVOLVED AND THEY WILL JUST THE SAME AS THE PARK
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BOARD AS THE ANIMAL SHELTER.THERE'S THESE EXISTS BECAUSE PEOPLE CARE ABOUT THOSE AREAS AND PEOPLE CARE ABOUT HIGHLIGHTING AND FOCUSING ON HOW WE'RE MADE UP, WHERE DO WE COME FROM AND WHAT MAKES THIS SPECIAL AND UNIQUE.
AND THE ONLY THING THAT I'LL SAY IS WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL IN MOVING FORWARD THAT WE DON'T FORGET ABOUT THE OTHER COMMITTEES.
AND THAT WOULD BE MY ONLY CONCERN, WE MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T PUSH THEM ASIDE.
WE'RE NOT STEPPING ON ANYONE'S TOES.
I THINK WHEN WHEN WE GET TO THIS NEXT PHASE, IT'LL BECOME A LITTLE MORE CLEARER.
YEAH, I THINK WE HAVE TO GET ESTABLISH THE COMMITTEE AND FIGURE OUT AND THOSE PILLARS, AS TAMARA SAID.
WE KIND OF STARTED IT CAME TOGETHER LIKE, OH, THAT'S A CHARGE, OH, THAT'S A CHARGE.
AND THAT COULD BE ITS OWN LITTLE SUBCOMMITTEE THAT FOCUSES ON THIS, THAT COULD LOOK INTO THIS.
AND SO I THINK ONCE WE CAN GET THE PEOPLE ON IT AND WE CAN START TALKING, THEY CAN HASH OUT WHAT THEY FEEL LIKE THAT THEY CAN ACCOMPLISH.
MAYBE IT'S STARTING WITH THE THINGS THAT WE KNOW USED TO BE HERE AND AREN'T ANY MORE LIKE CINCO DE MAYO FESTIVAL AND LOOKING AT A CALENDAR, IT IS SO EASY TO LOOK UP A CALENDAR AND FIGURE OUT.
WHAT A HERITAGE OR RECOGNITIONS ARE EACH MONTH AND FIGURING OUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THINGS THAT THEY CAN BRING FORWARD TO THE COMMUNITY? MAYBE IT'S HAVING AN ART FESTIVAL OR ART EVENT OUT AT RUSSELL FARM, WHERE YOU JUST WALK THROUGH AND LOOK AT ART CREATED FROM AMERICAN INDIAN HERITAGE.
AND BUT THERE'S JUST SO MANY THINGS THAT WE COULD.
IT DOESN'T ALWAYS HAVE TO BE A BIG EVENT, BUT JUST EDUCATION OPPORTUNITIES, AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HOPING FOR.
I THINK DAN RONNIE ARE Y'ALL OK WITH EVERYTHING YOU READY TO MOVE FORWARD.
THE YOUNG LADY MENTIONED SOMETHING THAT IT'S A TOPIC IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH NATIONALITY.
SHE SAID SHE WAS AN ATHLETE AND WAS THINKING ABOUT THAT IS AND IT'S BEEN I'VE DONE THIS PROBABLY FOUGHT IT 25 30 YEARS.
GIRLS ATHLETICS GET A LOUSY, LOUSY DEAL WHEN IT COMES TO THE ATHLETIC PROGRAM, THEY DON'T GET THE SAME AS THE BOYS.
AND BROTHER I'LL GET ON THAT BANDWAGON EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK, SO THANK YOU YOUNG LADY FOR BRINGING THAT UP.
[LAUGHTER] I GUESS THAT'S A YES.
I THINK THE MOST MOVING STATEMENT THAT YOU MADE IS THAT WE MAINTAIN OUR SENSE OF COMMUNITY AND ESPECIALLY OF A SMALL COMMUNITY WHEN WE ALL MEET EACH OTHER AT THE SAME LEVELS, REGARDLESS OF OUR BACKGROUNDS OUR PERSONAL HISTORIES OUR CONSTRUCT OF WHAT LIFE SHOULD BE IN A SMALL TOWN.
AND I FEEL LIKE IT'S THE LADIES PITCHING THIS IDEA TO THE OLD DUDES UP HERE.
I'M GOING TO SYMBOLICALLY COME AND STAND WITH YOU.
[LAUGHTER] YOU DID SHARE SOME A LOT OF THE SAME THINGS THAT WERE IN OUR WORK SESSION, SO WE COULD BRING YOU IN.
NOW YOU'RE NO LONGER PITCHING IT TO ALL THE [INAUDIBLE].
THIS IS WHAT WE WANT THEM TO SEE FROM US AS COUNCIL TOO.
WELL, ANY TIME YOU CAN IMPROVE COMMUNICATION BETWEEN COUNCIL AND THE CITIZENS AND CITIZENS TO CITIZEN, I'M FOR IT.
JIMMY YOU IN? YEAH, I AGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY.
I MEAN, THE BIGGEST PROBLEM THAT I'VE SEEN IN OUR CITY, IN MY OPINION, HAS BEEN THE LACK OF COMMUNICATION AND THE PEOPLE THAT DON'T FEEL THEIR VOICES ARE HEARD.
SO THIS ALLEVIATES THAT ALONG WITH PEOPLE WANTING TO MAINTAIN THEIR SMALL TOWN FEEL AND THE SMALL TOWN CULTURE AND THIS SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO SOME WONDERFUL THINGS WITH THAT, BUT ESPECIALLY TO BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN THAT SMALL TOWN, BE ABLE TO GIVE THE PEOPLE A VOICE.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE REASON THE WHOLE PARK THING I WAS SO ADAMANT ABOUT JEN AND THE GREAT JOB SHE WAS DOING IS BECAUSE IT GAVE THE CITIZENS A VOICE, AND I BELIEVE STRONGLY IN THAT.
[C. Recieve a report, hold a discussioin, and give staff feedback regarding Final Draft Report of the Long-Range Master Plan for the Burleson Fire Department. (Staff Presenter: K.T. Freeman, Fire Chief)]
EXCITEMENT BUILDING HERE.RECEIVE A REPORT, HOLD THE DISCUSSION AND GIVE STAFF FEEDBACK REGARDING THE FINAL DRAFT REPORT OF THE LONG RANGE MASTER PLAN FOR THE BURLESON FIRE DEPARTMENT.
FREEMAN, FIRE CHIEF EXTRAORDINAIRE.
I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE TIP THERE.
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THAT'S WHAT I'M HOPING FOR.WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO ESCAPE HERE.
WE HAVE WAITED A LONG TIME FOR THIS NIGHT.
I'VE GOT SOME OPENING COMMENTS THAT I'LL BE SHARING WITH YOU SHARING A FEW SLIDES, THEN I'LL BE TURNING THE PRESENTATION OVER TO DR.
BUT AGAIN, WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THIS REPORT, AND I THINK IT GIVES US A VERY CLEAR PATH IN NUMEROUS AREAS OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND HOW TO GO FORWARD WHERE WE'RE AT.
AND IT GIVES US AGAIN SOME OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE HAVEN'T HAD IN THE PAST FOR THIS DEPARTMENT, THIS COMMUNITY.
A QUICK RECAP WHY DO WE PICK FITCH AND ASSOCIATES IT HAS BEEN ALMOST A YEAR AGO THAT I CAME TO THIS COUNCIL WITH A RECOMMENDATION IN OUR PROCESS, BUT THEY HAVE AN OUTSTANDING TRACK RECORD AND THEY'VE DEMONSTRATED THAT THEY'VE DONE OVER A THOUSAND STUDIES VERY SIMILAR TO OURS WITH THE PLANNING AND ANALYSIS THAT WE'VE ASKED THEM TO DO AND THAT THEY'VE COMPLETED.
AND AS NOTED IN THE SLIDE, THEY'VE DONE IT OVER ALL 50 STATES, OVER A THOUSAND CLIENTS, AND YOU'LL NOTE THAT THERE'S ONLY ONE CONTINENT THAT THEY HAVEN'T DONE IT IN.
AND I THINK I KNOW I'VE GOT MY OWN IDEA WHY.
PETERSBURG AND RAISED IN FLORIDA, AND DR.
SO I'M THINKING THAT MIGHT BE WHY ANTARCTICA HAS BEEN OFF THE RADAR.
THEY DO HAVE A LONG AND ESTABLISHED PROVEN TRACK RECORD DOING THIS KIND OF ANALYSIS.
THEY'VE ALSO THIS IS VERY INTERESTING AS WELL, FITCH BRINGS TO THE TABLE.
THEY'VE DESIGNED AND THEY'VE MANAGED OVER 50 EMS SYSTEMS, AS I'VE NOTED THERE.
THEY BOTH CONSULT AND RUN EMS SYSTEMS, AND THEY'VE DESIGNED AND CONSULTED TO HERE IN TEXAS AS WELL.
EVEN SOME OF THE PROVIDERS HERE IN TEXAS, THEY'RE AN INDUSTRY LEADER IN DESIGNING HIGH EFFICIENCY SYSTEMS, THEY'RE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE.
AND THEN YOU CAN HAVE ALL THAT.
BUT WITHOUT EXCELLENT CLINICAL EFFICIENCIES AND CARE, IT REALLY DOESN'T MATTER BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE BOTTOM LINE IS AND ANY EMS SYSTEM, ESPECIALLY IN OURS.
AND THEN DR. KNIGHT, HE RETIRED AS THE ASSISTANT CHIEF OUT OF ST.
HE SERVES IN A DISTINGUISHED ROLE.
AS I'VE NOTED THERE, HE'S AN ASSESSOR FOR THE COMMISSION ON FIRE ACCREDITATION, AND HE GOES THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES ASSESSING FIRE DEPARTMENTS SOME MUCH LARGER THAN OURS, LARGE METROPOLITAN AREAS FOR THEIR STANDARDS OF COVERAGE, THE DEPLOYMENT STRATEGIES AND THEN STRATEGIC PLANNING PROCESSES.
MOELIER, HE HAS SERVED AS A CITY MANAGER.
AS I'VE NOTED HERE, HE'S ALSO SERVED AS A CHIEF OF STAFF AND ASSISTANT COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, AND HE'S HELPED MANAGE A HIGH PERFORMING EMS SYSTEM, AT SUNSTAR IN PINELLAS COUNTY, FLORIDA, AND THEY SERVE A LARGE POPULATION ALMOST A MILLION, AS I'VE NOTED.
AND WHAT'S INTERESTING ABOUT ONE OF DR.
MOELIER'S BACKGROUND IS THROUGH FITCH AND ASSOCIATES A STUDY WAS DONE.
HE WASN'T WITH THE COMPANY AT THE TIME, BUT THERE WERE EFFORTS BY LOCAL FIRE DEPARTMENTS IN THAT SYSTEM THAT THEY WANTED TO TO ASSUME RESPONSIBILITY OF AN AMBULANCE PROGRAM.
AND THROUGH FITCH'S ANALYSIS, THEY DETERMINED THAT IT WAS NOT IN THE BEST INTERESTS AN THE COUNTY AND WAS ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT SERVICE.
SO WE HAVE A DIVERGENT BACKGROUND, VERY SEASONED GROUP OF CONSULTANTS THAT WERE THE PRINCIPALS IN OUR STUDY.
SO TONIGHT WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT THE SCOPE OF WORK FINDINGS, RECOMMENDATIONS AND THEN AT THE END OF THE PRESENTATION FROM DR.
KNIGHT AND DR. MOELIER, I'LL BE COMING BACK.
AND OF COURSE, WE'RE GOING TO BE AVAILABLE FOR ANY KIND OF DIALOG THAT YOU FEEL YOU'D LIKE TO HAVE.
AND I'M GOING TO BE COMING BACK SHARING SOME THOUGHTS WITH YOU ABOUT WINDING UP OUR DISCUSSION.
BUT ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO JUST BRIEFLY TOUCH ON IS THE FINDINGS.
AS I SAID EARLIER, OUR FINDINGS ARE BASED ON QUALITATIVE AND QUANTITATIVE ANALYTICS.
WE HAVE ALL THE CONFIDENCE IN THE WORLD WITH THE ANALYTICS AND QUALITATIVE AND QUANTITATIVE IN THIS STUDY, WE FOUND OUT SOME VERY IMPORTANT FINDINGS.
OUR UNIT, OUR UTILIZATION, WHICH IS A CRITICAL COMPONENT OF ANY SYSTEM THAT THEY'LL BE TALKING ABOUT IN DETAIL TONIGHT ALSO OUR WHAT WE CALL OVERLAPPING OUR CAPACITY.
WHAT KIND OF CAPACITY DO WE HAVE IN OUR SYSTEM?
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HOW OFTEN DO WE HAVE OVERLAPPING CALLS IN A PARTICULAR AREA? HOW OFTEN WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THE TIME ARE OUR FIRE STATIONS AVAILABLE FOR CALLS? VERY, VERY IMPORTANT QUESTIONS.AND THE DATA HAS REVEALED SOME VERY, VERY INTERESTING AND IMPORTANT FACTS REGARDING THOSE LINES.
THERE ARE SOME SOLID RECOMMENDATIONS, CLEAR RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE'LL BE GOING OVER TONIGHT.
LASTLY, I'M GOING TO BE ASKING YOU FOR SOME FUTURE DIRECTION JUST WITH SOME IDEALS THAT I HAVE THAT I NEED TO RUN BY YOU.
WHEN WE KICKED OFF OUR STUDY, WE ASKED THE PRIMARY OBJECTIVES THAT WOULD BE THAT WE WANTED ANSWERS TO WOULD BE, LET'S LOOK AT OUR ORGANIZATION AND STRUCTURE.
IF YOU RECALL, WHEN I FIRST PRESENTED ABOUT A YEAR AGO, I SAID THE PURPOSE.
ONE OF THE PURPOSES OF THIS STUDY IS I DON'T WANT ANY STONES LEFT UNTURNED.
USING BRYAN'S PHRASE, TELL US KIND OF HOW UGLY OUR CHILD IS AND I THINK THEY'VE DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB OF THAT.
WE WANT TO HEAR THE GOOD, THE BAD, THE, YOU KNOW, THE UGLY.
AND I THINK THIS STUDY HAS REVEALED A GOOD PICTURE OF OUR DEPARTMENT, CURRENT OPERATIONS AND WHERE WE MAY BE ABLE TO GO IN THE FUTURE.
THEY'VE LOOKED AT OUR WORKLOAD, OUR PERFORMANCE.
THEY LOOKED AT OUR PROJECTED CALL GROWTH, OUR GROWTH THAT'S COMING UP THROUGHOUT THROUGH DEVELOPMENT.
INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT AS YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT A PRESENTATION FOR THE BOND COMMITTEE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS.
IT'S JUST NOT STATION 4 BUT POTENTIALLY MAYBE IN THE YEARS TO COME STATION, POTENTIALLY FIVE DOWN THE I-35 CORRIDOR AND THEN ONE OF THE MORE SALIENT ISSUES THAT WE ASK THEM TO TAKE A LOOK AT WAS THE FEASIBILITY AND THE EFFICACY OF PROVIDING FIRE BASED TRANSPORT COMPARED TO OUR CURRENT TRANSPORT WITH MEDSTAR.
AND I SHARED THIS WITH NOT ONLY THIS COUNCIL, BUT PREVIOUS COUNCILS ABOUT THERE WOULD BE A NATURAL TIME IN OUR PROCESS AS WE STARTED ADDING SQUADS IN TO OUR SYSTEM THAT WE WOULD COME BACK TO THE COUNCIL.
AT THAT TIME, I WASN'T THINKING ABOUT A MASTER PLAN STUDY, BUT I SAID THERE WOULD BE A TIME THAT I OWED IT TO THIS COUNCIL, THIS COMMUNITY IN A RESPONSIBLE MANNER TO BE LOOKING AT.
ARE WE USING THE CITIZENS RESOURCES IN THE MOST EFFECTIVE AND EFFICIENT WAY WHEN WE STARTED IMPLEMENTING THE SQUAD AND THEN WE SAID, WELL, WE PROBABLY NEED TWO AND WE COULD POTENTIALLY NEED THREE, SO.
IT'S NO LONGER ANECDOTAL, BUT I JUST RECAPPED THAT WITH YOU BECAUSE THIS HAS BEEN SOMETHING THAT I SHARED PREVIOUSLY YEARS AGO THAT WE OWE IT TO THIS COUNCIL AND WE OWE IT TO THIS COMMUNITY TO BE NOT JUST GOOD STEWARDS, BUT TO BE EXCELLENT STEWARDS WITH PROVIDING THE BEST SERVICE THAT WE CAN WITH THE RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE.
WITH THAT AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO ASK DR.
MOELIER AND DR. KNIGHT TO COME UP HERE, INTRODUCE THEM, AND THEN I'M GOING TO TURN THE PRESENTATION OVER TO THEM.
I THINK DR. MOELIER IS GOING TO HANDLE THE MAJORITY OF IT, BUT I WILL BE AVAILABLE TO STEP UP AND ANSWER ANY KIND OF QUESTIONS.
AND AT THIS TIME I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE DR.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE.
I WILL TELL YOU I'M GOING TO MOVE OUT OF THE WAY WHILE THE TECHNOLOGY WORKS.
I APPRECIATE WE BOTH MYSELF, DR.
DR. KNIGHT IS WITH ME TONIGHT, DR.
KNIGHT, IS ACTUALLY A PARTNER IN THE FIRM AND IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE FIRE PRACTICE AND IN ADDITION TO MANY, MANY OTHER CHARACTERISTICS, HE'S A THIRD GENERATION FIREFIGHTER.
DO I GET TO USE YOUR JOKE? DR KNIGHT LIKES TO SAY THAT I LITERALLY CAN'T HOLD A JOB A SHORT TIME AS A POLICE OFFICER A FIREFIGHTER PARAMEDIC UP THROUGH THE RANKS.
CITY MANAGER FOR A WHILE, FIRE CHIEF A COUPLE OF PLACES.
BUT NOW I'M A SENIOR CONSULTANT WITH FITCH AND HAVE BEEN SO FOR THE LAST SIX YEARS.
AND WHAT WE WERE ASKED TO DO IN THE CHIEF WAS VERY KIND IN HIS INTRODUCTION, WE WERE ASKED TO COME AND ASSIST THE CITY IN DEVELOPING A MASTER PLAN FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
FOR ME IN MANY WAYS, AND I MEAN THIS SINCERELY, I ACTUALLY THE DEPARTMENT WHERE I KIND OF WENT UP THROUGH THE RANKS.
MORE WAS OUTSIDE OF ILLINOIS TOWN CALLED NAPERVILLE, AND IT WAS VERY SIMILAR IN MANY REGARDS.
WHEN I FIRST MET THE CITY MANAGER, THE FIRE CHIEF, YOUR STAFF THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
IT WAS INTERESTING TO SEE A COMMUNITY THAT IT LITERALLY IS UNDERGOING AND HAS THE OPPORTUNITY MOVING FORWARD, SIGNIFICANT GROWTH.
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AND IT'S AN EXCITING TIME FOR COMMUNITY.WHEN YOU HAVE THAT, THERE ARE MANY COMMUNITIES THAT DON'T HAVE THOSE OPPORTUNITIES, BUT IT BRINGS WITH IT UNIQUE CHALLENGES.
AND THOSE ARE THE CHALLENGES THAT I THINK WE'LL IDENTIFY AND TALK ABOUT IN JUST A MOMENT HERE.
SO THE OBJECTIVE, THE CHIEF WENT OVER THE OBJECTIVE FROM HIS VIEWPOINT, WE REALLY SAW THIS THE MASTER PLAN, WHICH IS A STRATEGIC PLAN FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT MOVING FORWARD.
AND WE BASE THAT ON BOTH QUALITATIVE DATA, WHICH IS THE IMPRESSIONS THAT ARE DERIVED FROM SPEAKING WITH THE MANAGER, WITH THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM, WITH THE COMMAND STAFF, BOTH CHIEF DAVIS AND CHIEF FREEMAN AND ALL THE MEMBERS OF YOUR DEPARTMENT FIRE DEPARTMENT.
BUT IN ADDITION TO THAT ALSO BENCHMARK AGAINST COMPARABLE COMMUNITIES IN THE NATIONAL FIRE PROTECTION ASSOCIATION AND OTHER SUCH STANDARDS.
BUT WE WERE TRYING TO ANSWER IN OUR VIEWPOINT REALLY THREE QUESTIONS WHERE IS THE ORGANIZATION TODAY? WHAT DEMANDS FOR SERVICES ARE GOING TO BE ANTICIPATED BASED ON FUTURE GROWTH? AND THAT IS SOMETHING UNIQUE THAT YOU HAVE GOING ON HERE IN BURLESON AND THEN HOW BEST TO PREPARE FOR THAT FUTURE.
SO LET ME HIT THE TOP POINTS HERE.
FIRST OFF, OVERALL, THE DEPARTMENT APPEARS TO BE A VERY WELL-RUN, EFFECTIVE, WELL-MANAGED FIRE SERVICE ORGANIZATION.
KNIGHT WHEN WE WERE HERE BEFORE THAT CAUGHT US WAS THROUGHOUT THE ORGANIZATION, FROM THE RANK AND FILE FIREFIGHTERS IN THE STATIONS WHEN WE WENT OUT AND VISITED THEM FROM THE STAFF THAT WE MET WITH AT THE MAIN FIREHOUSE STATION, ONE IS THEY'RE VERY HIGHLY MOTIVATED AND THEY REALLY ENJOY BEING HERE AND ARE INTERESTED IN THE CHALLENGES THAT AWAIT THEM.
AND, YOU KNOW, SOMEWHAT A LITTLE BIT OF APPREHENSION PERHAPS, BUT THEY SEE THOSE FUTURE GROWTH OPPORTUNITIES AS TO DO SOMETHING IMPORTANT FOR THE COMMUNITY.
BUT WHEN, AS I MENTIONED, WHEN YOU HAVE THAT AT THE SAME TIME, THOSE OPPORTUNITIES FOR IMPROVEMENT AND WE DID IDENTIFY SOME AND I KNOW EACH MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL RECEIVED OUR SUMMARY REPORT IS THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT YOU CAN WORK AT NOW, AND THEY'RE ALSO THINGS THAT WE TRY TO LAY THE GROUNDWORK FOR TO HELP THE DEPARTMENT AND THE CITY DEAL WITH THE MID AND LONG TERM OPPORTUNITIES AND CHALLENGES THAT ARE GOING TO ARISE.
SO WE DID DO THAT FROM THAT DIMENSION, RIGHT? THE IMMEDIATE NEEDS IN THE DEPARTMENT WHERE WE SEE OPPORTUNITIES FOR IMPROVEMENT? AND THEN HOW DO YOU BEST PREPARE YOURSELF TO HANDLE WHAT'S GOING TO BE COMING IN THE MID-TERM AND THEN IN THE LONGER TERM? AND THERE ARE REALLY TWO MAIN THEMES THAT ARISE FROM THIS, AND I THINK THESE ARE IMPORTANT FOR THE COUNCIL TO REALLY KIND OF INTERNALIZE WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT YOUR FIRE DEPARTMENT.
THE FIRST ONE IS AS THE COMMUNITY GROWS, AS DEMANDS FOR SERVICE CHANGE, AS COMMUNITY EXPECTATIONS CHANGE, HOW BEST TO POSITION THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TO MEET THOSE CHANGING, EVOLVING AND GROWING DEMANDS FOR SERVICE.
THE SECOND THING THAT EMERGES IS REALLY NOT THAT SURPRISING.
IT HAS TO DO WITH THE VERY NATURE OF THE FIRE SERVICE OVERALL.
IT'S THE FACT THAT THE FIRE SERVICE TODAY, QUITE FRANKLY, IS MUCH MORE EMS RELATED THAT IS CONSISTENT THROUGHOUT THE NATION.
SO LET ME TALK ABOUT THAT FOR JUST A MOMENT, AND I'M GOING TO GO TO THE QUANTITATIVE FINDINGS.
THIS IS THE DATA WE CONSIDER OURSELVES A VERY DATA DRIVEN FIRM.
WE HAD A SEPARATE COLLEAGUE OF OURS, DR.
JOHNSON, WHO DID ALL OF THE STATISTICS.
SHE'S ONE OF OUR STATISTICIANS.
AND WE SEE THIS ACROSS THE NATION.
EMS CALLS THAT YOUR DEPARTMENT RUNS REPRESENT OVER 70 PERCENT OF THEIR ACTIVITY.
FIRE ACTIVITY IS TWENTY TWO POINT EIGHT PERCENT, I SHOULD SAY FIRE RELATED INCIDENTS, ACTIVATED FIRE ALARMS AND OTHER SORTS OF EVENTS.
WHEN YOU REALLY GET DOWN TO THE THINGS THAT PEOPLE THINK ABOUT WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT STRUCTURE FIRES ACTUALLY HANDLING FIRES, THAT'S ONLY ABOUT TWO AND A HALF PERCENT OF THE TOTAL CALL VOLUME THAT COMES IN.
AND HAZMAT TECHNICAL RESCUE KIND OF THOSE SPECIALTY SKILLS REPRESENT LESS THAN A HALF PERCENT.
WHAT THIS ALL DOES IS VALIDATE THAT THE FIRE SERVICE HERE IN BURLESON AND THROUGHOUT THE NATION IS EMS CENTRIC.
AND THAT HAS BECOME IN THE LAST THREE DECADES.
I'LL GIVE YOU THIS NATIONAL DATA IN THE LAST THREE DECADES, THE NUMBER OF STRUCTURE FIRES, FIRE FATALITIES, FIRE INJURIES HAVE BEEN CUT IN HALF AND IN THAT SAME TIME PERIOD, THE DEMAND FOR EMS SERVICES HAS GROWN 300 PERCENT AND THE FIRE SERVICE IS VERY INVOLVED IN THAT.
BEFORE I GO ANY FURTHER, I WANT TO DO SOMETHING.
THIS IS REALLY MORE FOR THE BENEFIT FOR THE PUBLIC THAT MAY BE SEEING THIS ONLINE.
BUT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT AVERAGE VERSUS 90TH PERCENTILE, AND I DON'T I HATE TO GO BACK INTO A HIGH SCHOOL BASIC ALGEBRA STATISTICS COURSE, BUT IT'S AN IMPORTANT CHARACTERISTIC AND IT'S ALWAYS IMPORTANT, I THINK, FOR THE ELECTED BODY TO UNDERSTAND IT.
WHEN WE TALK ABOUT HOW WE EVALUATE THE SERVICE AND HOW WE DO.
OFTENTIMES, PEOPLE TALK ABOUT RESPONSE TIME IN THE FIRE SERVICE.
IT HAS LOST SOME OF ITS IMPORTANCE, BUT WE ALWAYS TALK ABOUT IT AND WE ALSO OFTEN TALK ABOUT IT ON THE AVERAGE.
CHIEF, HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO GET TO THIS CALL? WELL, TOOK US FOUR MINUTES, FIVE MINUTES, SIX MINUTES, SEVEN MINUTES.
BUT IF WE CALCULATE THAT, IF WE EVALUATE THE SYSTEM, IF WE DESIGN THE SYSTEM TO MEET AN AVERAGE, IT'S A COIN TOSS.
YOU SEE THE TOP GRAPH THERE, THE BELL SHAPED CURVE.
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IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE AVERAGE OR THE MEAN HALF THE TIME, YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE IT AND HALF THE TIME YOU AREN'T.SO IN OUR INDUSTRY, BOTH FOR EMS AND FIRE, WE EVALUATE AND DESIGN SYSTEMS TO ACCOMPLISH WHAT THEY NEED TO ACCOMPLISH 90 TIMES OUT OF 100 AT THE 90TH PERCENTILE IS WHAT WE CALL IT.
AND WE DO THAT TO GIVE THE COMMUNITY A HIGH DEGREE OF CONFIDENCE IN THE SERVICE THEY'RE GOING TO PROVIDE.
NOW SOME PEOPLE MAY SAY, WHY NOT 100 PERCENT? THAT'S THE OLD PHILOSOPHICAL DEBATE THAT ELECTED BODIES HAVE TO DEAL WITH ALL THE TIME.
CAN WE AFFORD TO PUT A POLICE OFFICER ON EVERY STREET CORNER? NO.
CAN WE AFFORD TO BUILD A FIRE STATION ON EVERY STREET CORNER? NO, IT DOESN'T JUSTIFY IT.
BUT BY CAPTURING 90 PERCENT OF THE RISK, THE INDUSTRY SAID THERE ARE ALWAYS GOING TO BE THOSE FEW OUTLIERS, BUT WE WANT TO TRY TO ENSURE A HIGH LEVEL OF CONFIDENCE WE'RE GOING TO MEET THE GOALS.
SO THIS CHART RIGHT HERE IS LOOKING AT THE 90TH PERCENTILE PERFORMANCE WITHIN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT BY PROGRAM EMS, FIRE, HAZMAT AND RESCUE.
AND WE LOOK AT EACH INDIVIDUAL COMPONENT DISPATCH TIME, TURNOUT TIME, TRAVEL TIME AND THEN THE TOTAL RESPONSE TIME.
NOW, IF YOU GO TO THE VERY BOTTOM ROW, YOU'LL NOTICE BOTTOM ROW ON THE FAR, ALMOST FAR RIGHT ONE IN FROM THE RIGHT THAT THE TOTAL TIME FROM THE TIME YOU CALL 9-1-1 UNTIL THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IS AT THE DOOR.
WE LIKE TO CALL IT HELLO TO HELLO TIME.
YOU DIAL 9-1-1, THEY ANSWER THE CALL.
THEY DON'T SAY HELLO, BUT IT'S HELLO UNTIL YOU'RE AT SOMEBODY'S DOORSTEP.
IT'S 10 MINUTES AND POINT FOUR TWENTY FOUR SECONDS, BUT THAT'S 90 TIMES OUT OF 100.
SO THE DISPATCH CENTER WILL RECEIVE THE CALL UNTIL THE TIME THEY SET OFF THE TONES IN THE FIRE STATION FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM.
TURN OUT TIME IS FROM THE TIME THEY SET THOSE TONES IN THE FIRE STATION UNTIL THE TRUCK IS LITERALLY ROLLING DOWN THE STREET AND THEN TRAVEL TIME IS FROM ONCE IT BEGINS ROLLING UNTIL IT ARRIVES AT THE DESTINATION.
NOW, JUST AS AN EXAMPLE, WE DO CALCULATE IT WITHIN THE DATA REPORT.
SOMETIMES PEOPLE WILL LOOK AT THAT AND GO, WHOA, THAT SEEMS A LITTLE.
ON AVERAGE, IT'S SIX POINT EIGHT MINUTES ON AVERAGE IT'S 6.8, THE TRAVEL TIME IS SEVEN POINT ONE.
THE ACTUAL TRAVEL TIME IS FOUR AND A HALF MINUTES ON AVERAGE.
AND ACTUALLY, I'LL SAY THIS TO THE COUNCIL BECAUSE I ALWAYS DO THIS FOR AN ELECTED BODY.
WHEN YOU'RE TALKING WITH THE PUBLIC, I GENERALLY SUGGEST YOU DO TALK IN AVERAGES BECAUSE IT'S NOT TRYING TO BE IN ANY WAY DEMEANING OF ANYBODY.
BUT IT'S JUST UNLESS YOU WORK WITH 90TH PERCENTILES AND DO THAT ALL THE TIME.
IT'S EASIER TO EXPLAIN TO THE PUBLIC LEVEL OF SERVICE AT THE AVERAGE.
BUT WHEN WE DESIGN AND EVALUATE THE SYSTEM, WE ALWAYS RECOMMEND THAT THE AGENCY REPORT BOTH THE AVERAGE AND THE 90TH PERCENTILE.
WE ALSO LOOKED AT THE HISTORICAL DEMAND FOR SERVICE.
THESE ARE HEAT MAPS ON THE LEFT FOR FIRE, ON THE RIGHT FOR EMS. WHAT THEY REPRESENT IS THE RELATIVE DEGREE OF WHERE THE CALLS OCCUR RED.
SINCE IT'S A HEAT MAP, RED INDICATES THE AREAS THAT HAVE THE MOST CALLS, BLUE AREAS THAT HAVE MUCH LOWER LEVELS OF CALL.
IT'S ALWAYS IMPORTANT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THESE GRAPHS, IF YOU SEE THEM IN THE REPORT, IS TO LOOK IN THE TOP LEFT CORNER TO EVALUATE THE LEGEND AND UNDERSTAND.
SINCE FIRE ACTIVITY IS ONLY IS A LITTLE UNDER 30 PERCENT OF THE TOTAL VOLUME.
YOU CAN SEE THAT A RED AREA THERE ON THAT MAP ON THE LEFT IS THIRTY THREE CALLS DURING THE YEAR.
BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT EMS ON THE RIGHT SIDE, IT TAKES ONE HUNDRED AND FORTY EIGHT CALLS IN THAT AREA.
KNIGHT, WHEN WE DO THIS ALL OVER THE COUNTRY, IT'S IN SOME COMMUNITIES IT'S VERY EASY TO KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THE NURSING HOME IS OR WHERE THE SENIOR HOUSING IS RIGHT OR WHERE OTHER PARTICULAR FACILITIES ARE BECAUSE THEY WILL QUICKLY SHOW UP.
WHAT THIS DOES REFLECT IS WHERE YOUR STATIONS ARE LOCATED, BASED ON WHERE THE DEMAND IS.
ONE THING YOU WILL NOTE IS OUT IN THE CHISHOLM'S SUMMIT AREA.
THERE'S NOT A LOT OF DEMAND THERE AS THERE IS NOT A LOT OF DEMAND GOING DOWN 35 TODAY.
TODAY THE CHALLENGE FOR THE DEPARTMENT IS THE CHALLENGE FOR THE CITY, FOR YOUR DEVELOPMENT STAFF, ET CETERA, FOR THE MANAGER.
IS AS DEMAND GROWS HOW WILL YOU ADDRESS IT? WILL THEY BE PREPARED TO ADDRESS IT? ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE LOOK AT THAT THE CHIEF MADE REFERENCE TO IS STATION RELIABILITY.
AGAIN, BECAUSE THE ASSUMPTION IS THAT THE CLOSEST STATION IS THE ONE THAT'D RESPOND.
THESE THIS GRAPH ON THE LEFT AND THE NUMERIC VALUES ON THE RIGHT REFLECT THE ABILITY OF A FIRE STATION TO HANDLE AN INCIDENT THAT OCCURRED WITHIN THEIR PRIMARY AREA.
SO YOU DON'T HAVE EQUIPMENT RUNNING BACK AND FORTH ACROSS THE CITY, YOU'LL SEE THAT STATION ONE NINETY SIX POINT SEVEN PERCENT OF THE TIME THERE WAS A CALL IN STATION ONE'S AREA.
STATION ONE WAS ABLE TO RESPOND.
IN JUST UNDER 90 PERCENT FOR STATION 16 NOW AND STATION THREE AGAIN, JUST UNDER 90 PERCENT.
THAT REFLECTS THAT WITHIN THOSE STATIONS, THEY'RE ABLE TO HANDLE THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY ALMOST 90 PERCENT, OR OVER 90 PERCENT OF THE CALLS THAT OCCUR IN THEIR AREA, THE CLOSEST FACILITY.
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ANOTHER IMPORTANT DISTINCTION I ALWAYS POINT THIS ONE OUT, IN PARTICULAR TO ELECTED BODIES, IS THE TEMPORAL DISTRIBUTION.THIS SHOWS WHEN CALLS OCCUR BY HOUR OF THE DAY.
ON THE FAR LEFT IS THE ZERO, 100 HOUR OR MIDNIGHT GOING THROUGH THE TWENTY THREE HOURS OF THE DAY TILL 11 P.M.. I WANT YOU TO NOTE THAT AT 3:00 IN THE MORNING, THE TOTAL CALL VOLUME IS AT THAT HOUR IS WHAT WE CALCULATED AS A .
25 IS ALMOST FOUR, AS IS ONLY A QUARTER.
IF YOU LOOK AT FROM 3:00 IN THE MORNING TO 3:00 IN THE AFTERNOON, WHICH WOULD BE FIFTEEN HUNDRED OR SIXTEEN HUNDRED.
YOU SEE IT'S ALMOST THREE TO FOUR TIMES GREATER.
THIS PATTERN WE SEE IN EVERY AGENCY ACROSS THE NATION.
ACTUALLY, WHEN I DID THESE PRESENTATIONS, I USED TO JOKE THAT THIS OCCURRED EVERYWHERE IN THE NATION, EXCEPT FOR ONE COMMUNITY ONE.
AND I USED TO CLAIM THAT LAS VEGAS PROBABLY DOESN'T HAVE THIS RIGHT.
TWO YEARS AGO, WE DID A STUDY IN LAS VEGAS.
WHAT THIS ALSO REFLECTS IS YOU NEED TWO TYPES OF COVERAGE.
YOU NEED COVERAGE TO COVER YOUR GEOGRAPHY, RIGHT? SO THAT WHEN A CALL OCCURS, YOU CAN GET TO THAT CORNER EVEN IF IT DOESN'T HAVE HIGH DEMAND GET TO THAT CORNER.
YOU ALSO NEED COVERAGE TO ENSURE THAT IF YOU HAVE A HIGH CALL VOLUME WITH AN AREA, YOU HAVE THE APPARATUS THAT CAN RESPOND TO IT.
SO THERE'S TWO TYPES OF WAYS OF LOOKING AT IT.
ANOTHER VIEW THAT THE CHIEF MADE REFERENCE TO THAT WE LOOK AT IS SOMETHING CALLED UNIT HOUR UTILIZATION.
IT'S USED INCREASINGLY NOW, THANK GOODNESS IN THE FIRE SERVICE EMS LIKE MEDSTAR SUNSTAR THAT I RAN OTHER AMBULANCE SERVICES HAVE ALWAYS LOOKED AT SOMETHING CALLED UNIT HOUR UTILIZATION.
UNIT HOUR UTILIZATION LOOKS AT THE TIME, MAYOR TO YOUR EARLIER QUESTION OF PLAY OFF THAT FROM THE TIME YOU'RE DISPATCHED TO A CALL UNTIL THE TIME YOU'RE AVAILABLE TO HANDLE THE NEXT CALL, OK IT'S A REFLECTION OF CAPACITY WITHIN THE SYSTEM.
YOUR BUSIEST UNIT IS SQUAD ONE, WHICH IS JUST WHICH IS ABOUT SEVEN PERCENT OF THE TIME THEY ARE ACTUALLY TIED UP DURING THE DAY ON A CALL.
NOW LET ME ADDRESS A COUPLE OF THINGS.
FIRST OFF, SOME PEOPLE, PARTICULARLY BUSINESS AND BUSINESS LEADERS IN THE COMMUNITY, WILL SAY WELL SEVEN PERCENT 8.
COME ON, YOU'RE KIDDING, RIGHT? WELL, FIRST OFF, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT DOESN'T MAKE THEIR OWN CALLS, RIGHT? THEY DON'T MAKE THEIR OWN BUSINESS.
AT LEAST WE HOPE THEY DON'T RIGHT.
THE SECOND ELEMENT IS IF I TRY TO RUN THAT UNIT HALF THE TIME OR THREE QUARTERS OF THE TIME, WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE SECOND CALL COMES IN? THEY'RE NO LONGER AVAILABLE, RIGHT? THE RECOMMENDATION IS THE TOP LINE THERE.
THIS ACTUALLY COMES FROM THE INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF FIREFIGHTERS.
IS THAT ON A TWENTY FOUR HOUR UNIT, YOU DON'T RUN THAT UNIT ANY GREATER THAN POINT THREE OR 30 PERCENT OF THE TIME, ABOUT EIGHT HOURS IN A DAY.
NOW LET'S REMEMBER WHAT THEY'RE NOT.
THIS DOES NOT CAPTURE, IT DOES NOT CAPTURE IN THE MORNING WHEN THEY HAVE TO CHECK OUT THEIR EQUIPMENT.
IT DOESN'T INCLUDE WRITING THE REPORTS.
IT DOESN'T INCLUDE THE TIME TRAINING.
IT DOESN'T INCLUDE THE TIME DOING ALL THE OTHER TASKS THAT THEY HAVE TO DO.
THE COMMUNITY EDUCATION, THE FIRE PREVENTION, INSPECTIONS, NONE OF THAT IS INCLUDED HERE.
YOUR FIRE SERVICE IS MUCH BUSIER THAN THAT, BUT ALL OF THOSE OTHER ACTIVITIES CAN BE PUT ON PAUSE SHOULD A CALL COME IN OF AN EMERGENT NATURE THAT THEY NEED TO RESPOND TO.
THIS REFLECTS THAT YOU'VE GOT SOME CAPACITY IN YOUR SYSTEM TO ABSORB SOME ADDITIONAL GROWTH AND TO HANDLE SOME ADDITIONAL WORK.
BUT AT SOME POINT IN TIME, WE BELIEVE THAT YOU WILL HAVE TO REINVEST IN THE FIRE SERVICE.
WE LOOKED AT THAT BECAUSE RIGHT NOW TOTAL CALL VOLUME IS JUST UNDER RIGHT AROUND FIFTY FIVE, A LITTLE UNDER 55 HUNDRED.
IT'S TOUGH IN THE COMMUNITY WHEN YOU HAVEN'T STARTED DEVELOPING ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE YET.
THE NEW COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, THE NEW RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS, THE NEW MEDICAL DEVELOPMENTS OUT AGAIN IN CHISHOLM SUMMIT.
SO WE HYPOTHETICALLY LOOKED AT IT TWO, THREE AND FOUR PERCENT GROWTH RATE AND FIVE PERCENT GROWTH RATE GOING OUT THROUGH 2025 AND AT FIVE PERCENT, IF YOU GET UP TO JUST UNDER 7000 CALLS PER YEAR FROM THE CURRENT FIFTY FOUR OR FIFTY FIVE HUNDRED.
BUT THE GROWTH IS GOING TO COME BECAUSE AS THE COMMUNITY GROWS, IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
SO WE MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS, WHICH I'LL COME TO IN A MOMENT ON HOW TO BEST CONFIGURE THAT.
NOW I MENTIONED BEFORE THAT AT THE 90TH PERCENTILE OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IS RESPONDING TO OVER 90 PERCENT OF THE HISTORICAL CALLS WHERE THE CALLS HAVE OCCURRED WITHIN SEVEN MINUTES, SEVEN POINT ONE MINUTES ACTUALLY.
AND THE THREE STATIONS YOU HAVE, IF YOU LOOK ON THE RIGHT, THIS IS SOMETHING WE CALL A MARGINAL UTILITY.
THE MOST SIGNIFICANT COLUMN IS THE ONE ON THE RIGHT THE PERCENT CAPTURE.
STATION ONE HANDLES MOST OF THE DEMAND, HANDLING 3000 CALLS.
STATION TWO THEN HANDLES THE NEXT [INAUDIBLE] STATION 16 I'M SORRY HANDLES THE NEXT HIGHEST NUMBER OF CALLS.
CAPTURES EIGHTY FIVE PERCENT OF THE RISK AND STATION THREE BRINGS YOU JUST OVER THAT 90 PERCENT MARK THAT WE'RE SEARCHING FOR.
SO THE THREE STATIONS YOU HAVE NOW HANDLE THE RISK, THE HISTORICAL RISK THAT YOU
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HAVE IN THE COMMUNITY WITH AT A SEVEN MINUTE PERFORMANCE.NOW, ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE DID WE LOOKED AT IS TO LOOK AT MEDSTAR BECAUSE MEDSTAR IS A PARTNER WITH YOU IN MANY OF THESE CALLS, RIGHT? THE MEDICAL CALLS.
SO WE LOOKED AT THEIR AVERAGE AND 90TH PERCENTILE PERFORMANCE THERE ON THE SCREEN AHEAD OF YOU.
I WILL TELL YOU THAT ONE OF THE CHALLENGES IN THIS IS MEDSTAR HAS THEIR OWN COMPUTER TO DISPATCH SYSTEM THEIR OWN NINE ONE, THEIR OWN COMMUNICATION CENTER.
WE CALL THEM A PSAP PUBLIC SAFETY ANSWERING POINT.
AND THE CITY HAS YOUR OWN, SO THERE'S NO WAY TO LOOK AT A SINGLE CALL IN REALLY KIND OF MAP THE ENTIRE THING FROM FRONT TO END.
BUT MEDSTAR WAS GOOD ENOUGH TO PROVIDE THEIR DATA OUT OF THEIR CAD SYSTEM, SO WE HAD OUR ANALYSTS RUN THAT DO AS DR.
[INAUDIBLE] LIKED TO SAY, THE DATA ARE WITH THE DATA ARE RAN MEDSTAR'S DATA AND THEN RAN THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS DATA.
AND WHAT WE SEE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO.
NOW YOU DON'T WANT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TO GET THERE AND IMMEDIATELY THE AMBULANCE TO GET THERE AT THE EXACT SAME TIME.
THAT'S NOT AN EFFICIENT MODEL.
THERE'S ALWAYS SOME DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO.
THE DEGREE OF THE DIFFERENCE IS SOMETHING DIFFERENT, AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN A LITTLE BIT.
BUT THE SYSTEM, THE WAY IT WORKS, THE WAY IT'S INTENDED TO WORK IS NOT SURPRISING.
THAT'S WHY WE CALL THEM FIRST RESPONDERS.
THEY CAN BEGIN IMMEDIATE LIFE SAVING CARE AND THEN THE AMBULANCE COMES IN BEHIND IT.
THEY ARE ABLE THEN AT THAT POINT TO TRANSFER THE PATIENT INTO THE AMBULANCE AND TRANSPORT THEM TO THE HOSPITAL.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT PARTS THAT GO INTO DESIGNING THE SYSTEM.
LET ME TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE QUALITATIVE THINGS THAT WE DON'T HAVE, FOR EXAMPLE, THE HARD DATA COMING OUT OF THE CAD SYSTEM, ET CETERA.
WE LOOKED AT THE ORGANIZATION OF THE DEPARTMENT AND BASED ON THE CURRENT MISSION AND THE BUDGET AT FTES, YOU BASICALLY HAVE A LEAN AND FUNCTIONAL ORGANIZATION.
THAT'S RIGHT, KIND OF WHAT YOU NEED.
BUT TO BE FRANK, IT'S A LITTLE BIT TIGHT FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM.
I MADE A COMMENT BEFORE ABOUT HOW MOTIVATED YOUR STAFF WAS.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAUGHT US, THOUGH, WAS THAT THE CHIEFS, BOTH CHIEFS AND THE OTHER STAFF, THEY'VE GOT TO ASSIST THEM.
A LOT OF WHAT WOULD NORMALLY BE TYPICAL PLANNING DONE BY THE ADMINISTRATION OF THE DEPARTMENT IS BEING PUSHED AND ASKED AND BEING TAKEN ON HAPPILY BY THE LINE PERSONNEL.
THE LIEUTENANT'S RIGHT AT THE STATION, FIREFIGHTERS, TO THE DEGREE THEY'RE DOING FIRE INSPECTIONS, THEY'RE DOING ALL SORTS OF OTHER SPECIAL PROGRAMS AND THAT'S FINE.
BUT AT SOME POINT, AS THE ORGANIZATION GROWS, AS THE DEMAND GROWS, IT BECOMES PROBLEMATIC BECAUSE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO BE RESPONDING TO CALLS ARE DISTRACTED AND DOING SOME OTHER THINGS RIGHT.
AND YOU AREN'T ABLE TO PAY AS MUCH ATTENTION AS YOU NEED TO PLAN IN THE LONG TERM.
SO THOSE RESPONSIBILITIES THAT TRADITIONALLY BELONG ON 40 HOUR PERSONNEL WORKING EIGHT TO FIVE MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY RATHER THAN STAFF, YOU HAVE TO EVALUATE THAT AND AT SOME POINT YOU'RE KIND OF AT THAT POINT.
AND I SPEAK OF THAT NOT JUST IN ALL THE WORK THAT WE'VE DONE, BUT EVEN IN MY OWN PERSONAL EXPERIENCE.
IT'S COMMON TO SEE GROWING AGENCIES TO GO THROUGH THAT AND TO DEAL WITH THAT.
SO AS I SAID, THEY'RE VERY PRIDEFUL IN WHAT THEY DO.
BUT BASED ON THE CURRENT MISSION, BASED ON THE CURRENT STAFFING LEVELS THAT YOU HAVE, YOU'RE EXACTLY WHERE YOU SHOULD BE WITH THE NUMBER OF PERSONNEL YOU HAVE IN THE DEPARTMENT.
THEY'RE ACCOMPLISHING IT, BUT WE'RE STARTING TO SEE SOME SIGNS OF STRESS.
ONE OF THE THINGS JUST ADMINISTRATIVELY, WE'VE RECOMMENDED THAT AN ADDITIONAL ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT POSITION WITHIN THE NEXT BUDGET CYCLE OR TWO BE ADDED TO THE DEPARTMENT.
WE ALSO LOOKED AT THE TOTAL NUMBER OF STAFF.
THIS INCLUDES CHIEF CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THIS INCLUDES THE CURRENT BUDGET YEAR.
SO THE ADDITIONAL POSITIONS THAT THE COUNCIL ALREADY PROVIDED, WE DO SOMETHING CALLED A STAFFING MULTIPLIER.
IT'S A WAY TO LOOK AT BASED ON THE NUMBER OF SEATS THAT YOU NEED TO FILL.
HOW MANY PEOPLE DO I NEED ON THE SQUAD, HOW MANY ON THE ENGINE, HOW MANY, YOU KNOW, THE BATTALION CHIEF OR THE CAPTAIN, HOW MANY DO I NEED? WE THEN CALCULATE HOW MANY HOURS THEY ACTUALLY WORK BASED ON ACTUAL TIME TAKEN OFF, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
FOR LINE PERSONNEL YOU HAVE FIFTY POINT EIGHT NINE IS WHAT YOU NEED.
THE ASSUMPTION ALSO IS, I'LL SAY THIS FOR COUNCIL.
AS A FIRE CHIEF, I GOT BEAT UP A LOT ON THIS.
THIS ALWAYS ASSUMES YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME DEGREE OF OVERTIME.
THIS ASSUMES A PERFECT WORLD WHERE ONLY ONE PERSON TAKES OFF AT A TIME.
NOBODY EVER GETS HURT WHEN OTHER PEOPLE ARE OFF.
SO IT'S GENERALLY MORE EFFICIENT TO STAFF TO ABOUT THIS LEVEL AND THEN TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF OVERTIME BECAUSE YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE THOSE TIMES, EITHER BECAUSE OF EMERGENCIES OR BECAUSE JUST RIGHT RANDOMNESS.
BAD LUCK, MULTIPLE PEOPLE OFF AT A TIME.
ANOTHER AREA WE LOOKED AT WAS THE FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE WHO'S RESPONSIBLE, AS YOU KNOW, FOR THE ENFORCEMENT OF THE FIRE CODES AND FIRE SAFETY, PUBLIC EDUCATION.
ONE THING THAT WE DID FIND IN THERE THAT KIND OF JUMPED OUT AT US IS THAT AND THIS IS NOT UNUSUAL EITHER IS WITH THE DEVELOPMENT THAT COMES IN.
MANY OF THE BUILDINGS ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE SPRINKLERS OR FIRE ALARM SYSTEMS, AND THOSE
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HAVE TO BE REVIEWED.GENERALLY, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT'S RESPONSIBILITY UNDER THE FIRE CODE TO DO THAT, HOWEVER, TO REVIEW SPRINKLER PLANS TO REVIEW FIRE ALARM PLANS IT'S PRETTY TECHNICAL, IT'S QUASI ENGINEERING WORK, RIGHT? I MEAN, THERE ARE ENGINEERS AND ARCHITECTS THAT DESIGNED IT.
SO WHAT THE DEPARTMENT DOES IS THEY HAVE THEY TELL THE DEVELOPERS TO GO AND FIND SOMEBODY OUTSIDE TO DO IT AND PROVIDE SOME DIRECTION ON THAT.
THE OTHER THING EXCUSE ME THAT HAPPENS IS THAT MANY OF THE INSPECTIONS THAT ARE DONE WITHIN THE CITY TO YOUR NORMAL BUSINESS IS WHAT WE CALL WHITE BOXES, THE STRIP STORES, ET CETERA.
MANY OF THE BUSINESSES ARE DONE BY YOUR PERSONNEL ON SHIFT.
THEY TAKE THE ENGINE COMPANIES OUT AND WITHIN THEIR DISTRICT.
THEY'LL INSPECT THEM, WHICH IS EXCELLENT, EXCELLENT PRACTICE.
THEY GET TO KNOW THE COMMUNITY, THEY GET TO KNOW THOSE BUSINESSES, THEY KNOW WHERE THINGS ARE.
THEY ALSO INSPECT IT AND THEY PROVIDE SOME EFFICIENCY THERE.
BUT THE TWO RECOMMENDATIONS COMING OUT OF THAT IS THE FOLLOWING THAT WE RECOMMEND THE FIRE MARSHAL INSTEAD OF REPORTING DIRECTLY TO THE FIRE CHIEF, WHO SHOULD BE FOCUSED ON THE LONG RANGE PLANNING, ETC.
REPORT DIRECTLY TO THE ASSISTANT CHIEF.
AND THE REASON WE DO THAT IS BECAUSE MUCH OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT ARE OCCURRING RIGHT, MANY OF THE INSPECTIONS ARE BEING DONE BY THE OPERATIONS PERSONNEL THAT WORK UNDERNEATH THE ASSISTANT CHIEF AND ALSO THE SPECIAL EVENTS, ETC.
SO IT'S BETTER COORDINATION AT THE ASSISTANT CHIEF LEVEL.
THE SECOND THING WE RECOMMEND IS A LITTLE BIT OF A NUANCE.
BUT WE RECOMMEND INSTEAD OF ASKING DEVELOPERS THAT SUBMIT PLANS TO HAVE SOMEBODY ELSE REVIEW THEIR PLANS, IS THE CITY FIND A CONTRACTOR THAT'S QUALIFIED TO DO THE FIRE ALARM REVIEW AND THE SPRINKLER REVIEW OR DEVELOP THE CAPACITY IN-HOUSE? ONE OF THE THINGS IS A FORMER CITY MANAGER WAS ALWAYS IMPORTANT IS THE WAY THAT YOUR DEVELOPER COMMUNITY SEES YOU.
IT'S NORMALLY A ONE STOP SHOP.
SO IN PLACES THAT DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY IN-HOUSE, IT'S NOT UNUSUAL FOR THEM TO IDENTIFY A VENDOR.
AND THEN WHEN THE DEVELOPER COMES IN HANDS, THE PLANS TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, NOT A PROBLEM.
FIRE DEPARTMENT, WHAT DOES WHAT THEY DO? THEY GO AHEAD AND USE YOUR CONTRACTOR TO DO THE SPECIALIZED REVIEWS ON FIRE ALARMS AND SPRINKLERS.
AND IT'S JUST A CHARGEBACK, RIGHT? YOU JUST GO AHEAD AND BUILD THAT INTO YOUR FEE STRUCTURE TO RECAPTURE THOSE COSTS.
SO THOSE ARE THE TWO RECOMMENDATIONS, THERE.
EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, SOMETHING WE ALL HOPE WE NEVER HAVE TO DO.
SIX MONTHS AFTER I BECAME CHIEF, HURRICANE ANDREW, HURRICANE WILMA, HURRICANE KATRINA, HURRICANE, WHATEVER.
SO A LOT OF WAY TOO MUCH MORE TIME DOING THIS.
IT WAS WONDERFUL TO SEE YOUR NEW STATION 16, THE EOC THAT WAS DEVELOPED IN THERE.
ONE OF THE THINGS WHEN WE WERE TALKING TO YOUR EMERGENCY MANAGER WAS THAT IT'S RECOMMENDED ALL DEPARTMENT HEADS GO THROUGH A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TRAINING THAT'S REFERRED TO AS NIMS OR ICS.
ALL COMES FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
LOTS OF ACRONYMS. INCIDENT COMMAND SYSTEM NATIONAL INCIDENT MANAGEMENT SYSTEM.
IT IS A NATIONAL FRAMEWORK THAT EVERY GOVERNMENT, LOCAL GOVERNMENT, STATE GOVERNMENTS, FEDERAL GOVERNMENT USES ACROSS THE NATION, BUT IT'S RECOMMENDED FOR ONLY YOUR DEPARTMENT HEADS TO DO THAT.
WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING IS THAT IN FACT, ALL OF YOUR KEY PERSONNEL THAT WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE TO GO TO THE EOC RECEIVE THAT TRAINING.
FIRE ADMINISTRATION, THE NATIONAL EMERGENCY OR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT INSTITUTE MAKE THAT TRAINING AVAILABLE ONLINE EASY TO DO, BUT THAT ANYBODY WHO'S GOING TO WORK IN THE EOC SHOULD AT LEAST HAVE PASSING FAMILIARITY WITH THE SYSTEM AND THE WAY IT WORKS.
IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF AN UNUSUAL PROCESS, SO IT'S GOOD FOR THEM TO KNOW THAT.
AND THE SECOND THING IS, WITH THE CURRENT HAZARD MITIGATION ACTION PLAN THAT WAS DEVELOPED IN 2013, WE REVIEWED THAT SOME THINGS HAVE BEEN DONE.
SOME THINGS HAVEN'T BEEN FOLLOWED UP ON IS TO TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT THAT UPDATE THAT DOCUMENT CHECK OFF WHAT NEEDS TO BE CHECKED OFF AND COMPLETE THE ITEMS THAT ARE STILL THERE.
NOW I MENTIONED THAT IT'S AN EMS CENTRIC DEPARTMENT, RIGHT? AND ONE OF THE THINGS THE CHIEF ALLUDED TO IS WE WERE ASKED TO LOOK AT A SPECIFIC QUESTION ABOUT THE ABILITY OF THE DEPARTMENT TO TAKE ON TRANSPORT.
EMS BASED OR FIRE BASED TRANSPORT IS FAIRLY TYPICAL IN MANY, MANY PARTS OF THE COUNTRY, ARGUABLY DEPENDING ON WHOSE DATA YOU LOOK AT.
FIRE DEPARTMENTS PROBABLY TRANSPORT MORE THAN OTHER, YOU KNOW, THIRD SERVICE OR PUBLIC UTILITY MODELS OR WHATEVER HIGH PERFORMANCE.
NOTWITHSTANDING THAT, I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T SAY THAT.
I THINK THE CITY OF BURLESON IS IN A VERY UNIQUE POSITION.
YOU HAVE INVESTED IN YOUR FIRE DEPARTMENT TO PROVIDE SQUADS TO PROVIDE THE FIRST RESPONSE CAPABILITY.
THAT FIRST RESPONSE CAPABILITY TODAY HAS YOU ARRIVING SIGNIFICANTLY SOONER THAN THE TRANSPORT AMBULANCE DOES.
AND IT'S THAT DIFFERENCE THAT'S FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT.
YOU'VE MADE AN INVESTMENT AND THAT INVESTMENT THAT YOU'VE MADE, IF YOU WERE TO CONSIDER A TRANSPORT, YOU COULD RECAPTURE SOME OF THOSE COSTS.
THAT'S A COST RECOVERY PIECE OF WHAT YOU'VE ALREADY INVESTED.
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THE QUESTION BECOMES, DO YOU HAVE CAPACITY TO DO THAT? AND WE'VE LOOKED AT THAT.THE SHORT ANSWER IS YES, YOU DO.
YOU COULD DO THAT AND THE ESTIMATES THAT WE PUT TOGETHER, AND I THINK THEY'RE CONFIRMED BY SOME MORE RECENT DATA THAT THE CITY HAS SHARED WITH US IS ARGUABLY THE GENERATED FEES THAT WOULD COME FROM IT.
ASSUMING SIMILAR RATE STRUCTURE TO WHAT'S BEING CHARGED TODAY TO YOUR RESIDENCE WOULD GENERATE ABOUT 1.3 MILLION, BUT THAT'S THE GROSS COST YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO.
THERE'S THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BE DONE FOR THE DEPARTMENT.
YOU WOULD HAVE TO CHANGE FROM SQUADS TO TRANSPORT CAPABLE AMBULANCES.
YOU WOULD HAVE TO HIRE A BILLING COMPANY TO HANDLE THE BILLING.
YOU WOULD HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT YOUR [INAUDIBLE].
ONE PART IN PARTICULAR WOULD BE THE 9-1-1 CENTER AND DEVELOPING A CAPACITY SIMILAR TO WHAT MEDSTAR PROVIDES IN THEIR COMMUNICATIONS CENTER.
THE PRE-ARRIVAL INSTRUCTIONS TO CALL PRIORITIZATION.
BUT EVEN WHEN YOU NET ALL THAT OUT, IT IS OUR ESTIMATE THAT YOU WOULD BE JUST AT A MILLION OR A LITTLE UNDER A MILLION DOLLARS IN REVENUES THAT YOU AREN'T RECEIVING TODAY.
IT WOULD BE A COST RECOVERY BECAUSE YOU'RE SPENDING THOSE DOLLARS TO DATE.
THE CITY MADE AN INVESTMENT IN PROVIDING FIRST RESPONSE.
AND TO DO IT AT A LEVEL THAT IS TODAY TEN POINT FOUR MINUTES AT THE 90TH PERCENTILE OF YOUR TRAVEL TIME IS SEVEN POINT ONE MINUTES.
YOU MADE A DECISION TO DO THAT.
YOU CAN RECAPTURE SOME OF THAT BY MOVING IN THE DIRECTION OF ASSUMING TRANSPORT.
NOW, THAT'S NOT THE ONLY ALTERNATIVE YOU HAVE.
THERE ARE CERTAINLY OTHER ALTERNATIVES, BUT OUR RECOMMENDATION.
AND AGAIN, IT'S A UNIQUE CIRCUMSTANCE BECAUSE THE CITY HAS MADE THOSE INVESTMENTS IS YOU COULD ASSUME DIRECT RESPONSIBILITY SHOULD ASSUME DIRECT RESPONSIBILITY FOR EMS AS YOU DO TODAY, BUT ALSO THE TRANSPORT COMPONENT.
SO INSTEAD OF JUST RESPONDING, YOU'D ALSO TAKE THEM TO THE HOSPITAL.
NOW, IF YOU DON'T WANT TO DO THAT, THERE ARE ALTERNATIVES.
YOU CAN WORK WITH MEDSTAR TO ENSURE THERE ARE MORE RESOURCES WITHIN THE CITY AT THE TIMES THAT IT'S NEEDED, WHICH WOULD IMPROVE THEIR PERFORMANCE FROM WHAT WAS OBSERVED IN THE DATA THAT WAS PROVIDED OR AS DONE IN SOME AREAS OF THE COUNTRY.
YOU STILL USE TRANSPORT CAPABLE UNITS SO THAT IN THOSE MOST ACUTE CASES, WHICH IS ABOUT FIVE 10 PERCENT AND THE HIGHEST PRIORITY CASES, PENETRATING TRAUMA TO THE CHEST, CARDIAC ARREST, ET CETERA.
AND IF THERE'S GOING TO BE A DELAY TO ANY DEGREE OF THE TRANSPORT AMBULANCE COMING BEHIND IN THIS CASE, MEDSTAR, YOUR PERSONNEL COULD TRANSPORT UNDER THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES.
THEY HAVE THEIR OWN CHALLENGES AND HURDLES WORKING WITH YOUR CURRENT PROVIDER.
BUT I THINK YOU'VE DEMONSTRATED HISTORICALLY FROM WHAT WE HEAR FROM THE CHIEF, YOU'VE HAD A GOOD WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH MEDSTAR.
WE WOULD ENCOURAGE THE CITY IRRESPECTIVE OF THE COURSE OF ACTION YOU TAKE TO CONTINUE DOING THAT, IRRESPECTIVE OF WHETHER YOU DO THAT.
THE FIRST RECOMMENDATION OR NOT, WE WOULD STILL RECOMMEND YOU USE TRANSPORT CAPABLE UNITS.
I'LL JUST TELL YOU VERY BRIEFLY IN MY COMMUNITY RIGHT NOW, WHEN COVID HIT AMBULANCES ARE BEING STUCK AT THE HOSPITAL, WHAT WE CALL WALL TIME, THEY TAKE A PATIENT IN, THEY CAN'T GET AWAY.
NOW THE AMBULANCE ISN'T AVAILABLE.
I DON'T KNOW, DIDN'T TALK TO THEM.
I'M TALKING ABOUT MY COMMUNITY, BUT I'D BE STUNNED IF MEDSTAR HASN'T SEEN THE SAME PROBLEM.
IT'S BEEN REPORTED ALL OVER THE NATION.
AND SO OUR LOCAL FIRE DEPARTMENT THAT NORMALLY DOESN'T TRANSPORT BUT DOES HAVE TRANSPORT CAPABLE UNITS AND WOULD DO THREE TRANSPORTS A MONTH, IS DOING THREE HUNDRED AND TWO WEEKS .
AGAIN FOR DISASTERS, FOR UNIQUE CIRCUMSTANCES, FOR PANDEMICS THERE'S VALUE IN JUST SWITCHING OUT.
IT'S A CAPITAL COST AMORTIZE IT OVER A NUMBER OF YEARS.
LET'S GO TO STATIONS AND FUTURE NEEDS.
TALK ABOUT STATION FOUR SO HISTORICALLY, YOU DON'T HAVE MUCH ACTIVITY OUT THERE.
BUT AS THE COMMUNITY STARTS TO GROW, AS THE INFRASTRUCTURE GOES IN, AS DEVELOPERS COME IN AND START COMING, GOING VERTICAL, COMING OUT OF THE GROUND AND THE DEVELOPMENT AGAIN, EXCITING TIME, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT'S GOING TO NEED A FACILITY OUT THERE.
AND SO WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT THE FUTURE ANTICIPATED EXPANSION THAT THEY WOULD GO INTO.
SO IT'S UNKNOWN EXACTLY WHEN THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, BUT WE'LL PROVIDE YOU SOMETHING ON THAT IN JUST A MOMENT.
AND THE SAME ALSO, THE GRAPHIC THAT DIDN'T WORK.
THIRTY FIVE, IT'S YELLOW AGAIN.
WORKED WELL BEFORE, DIDN'T IT? AT SOME POINT YOU MIGHT NEED SOMETHING ALONG THIRTY FIVE AS WELL.
BUT AGAIN, YOU DON'T WANT TO INVEST BEFORE YOU HAVE TO INVEST, RIGHT? HOW DO YOU MAKE THE DECISION? THAT REALLY IS THE QUESTION.
THIS IS A FRAMEWORK THAT WE'VE USED ELSEWHERE.
IT'S A FRAMEWORK THAT WE WOULD ENCOURAGE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TO USE.
THERE ARE CERTAIN METRICS THAT ARE BASED ON THE STATION, AND THE UNITS AND ALSO THE STATION DESIGN AND PERFORMANCE.
THE FIRE CHIEF SHOULD LOOK AT THESE AND ADJUST THEM, BUT WHAT THEY ARE IS WHAT WE CALL TRIGGERS RIGHT.
AT A CERTAIN POINT WHEN RESPONSE TIMES GET TOO MUCH, WHEN UNIT AVAILABILITY GETS TOO LOW.
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ANY OF THOSE METRICS THAT WE'VE KIND OF WENT THROUGH IN OUR QUANTITATIVE PIECE THAT WE DID AS THOSE START GETTING OUT OF BALANCE, THOSE ARE TRIGGERS TO SAY, WE NEED TO START ADDRESSING WHAT THE NEEDS MAY BE, DOES IT REQUIRE ANOTHER STATION OR CAN WE REALLOCATE WORKLOADS SO A NUMBER OF PERSONNEL RESPONSE TIMES, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.THIS IS A FRAMEWORK FOR THE DEPARTMENT TO USE SO THEY CAN HAVE AN ONGOING DIALOG WITH THE MANAGER AND ADMINISTRATION AND ULTIMATELY PERCOLATES UP TO THE COUNCIL.
SO THAT'S HOW WE'VE APPROACHED THAT.
SO THERE ARE NO SPECIFIC NATIONAL GUIDELINES OR RECOMMENDATIONS ON WHEN TO DO IT.
POLICY CALLS ARE MADE BY THE LEGISLATIVE BODY, BUT WE'VE PROVIDED HERE A FRAMEWORK FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THE CITY MANAGER TO DEVELOP THOSE POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS TO THIS COUNCIL.
IN THE LONG TERM, WELL, IN THE MIDTERM FOR CHISHOLM SUMMIT, IN THE MIDTERM, THE DEPARTMENT SHOULD CONTINUE TO MONITOR THAT DEVELOPMENT, BEGIN DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION BECAUSE YOU WANT TO BE AHEAD OF IT, RIGHT? YOU'RE NOT GOING TO POP UP A FIRE STATION OVERNIGHT.
YOU'RE GOING TO NEED TO DO LAND ACQUISITION, DESIGN, [INAUDIBLE] PRE-DESIGNED SPACE NEEDS, ET CETERA.
WE ALSO SUGGEST THAT IN YOUR CIP AT SOME POINT WITH THE MANAGER SUPPORT, HOPEFULLY YOU LOOK AT STATIONS ONE AND THREE FIRE STATIONS WERE BUILT FOR FIRE APPARATUS AND FOR THE PRIMARY FIRE MISSION YEARS AGO.
NOW WE SEE A MUCH MORE EMS CENTRIC RIGHT.
SOME OF THE SPACE NEEDS IN THE STATIONS HAVE CHANGED.
MEDICATIONS STORAGE FOR MEDICAL SUPPLIES SHOULD NOT BE IN THE SAME PLACE YOU STORE YOUR HOSE RIGHT AND FIRE EXTINGUISHERS, ETC.
SO LOOK TO SEE ABOUT THOSE STATIONS WHEN NECESSARY TO BE REFRESHED, TO BE UPDATED.
AND THEN IN THE LONG TERM, BEYOND STATION FOUR, IF THERE IS A NEED, DEPENDING ON WHAT DEVELOPMENT HAPPENS, DEPENDING ON WHAT THE DEMAND FOR SERVICES OUT THERE AGAIN.
SO THOSE ARE THE BASIC RECOMMENDATIONS DEALING WITH THE DEPARTMENT.
ONE OTHER AREA IS COMMUNICATIONS AND CANNOT TELL THE COMMISSION ENOUGH OR THE COUNCIL I'M SORRY ENOUGH ABOUT 911.
SO AGAIN, TODAY, A SIGNIFICANT CHALLENGE THAT YOU HAVE RIGHT NOW IS WHAT WE CALL PRIMARY SECONDARY PIECE APPS.
I DON'T WANT TO BORE YOU TOO MUCH.
I'M ACTUALLY INVOLVED IN SOME RESEARCH WITH THE UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH FLORIDA ON THIS.
WHEN PEOPLE CALL 9-1-1 HERE IN THE CITY, THEY GET YOUR DISPATCH CENTER, YOUR PERSONNEL.
IF THEY NEED EMS, THAT CALL THEN ULTIMATELY GETS TRANSFERRED TO MEDSTAR, WHO DOES TWO THINGS.
THEY PRIORITIZE THE CALL USING A STANDARD, NATIONALLY KNOWN SYSTEM, AND THEN THEY CAN ALSO PROVIDE PRE-ARRIVAL INSTRUCTIONS.
WE'VE ALL SEEN THE NEWS PROGRAMS RIGHT.
SOMEBODY IS NOT BREATHING, AND THE 9-1-1 OPERATOR TALKS THEM THROUGH IT, BUT THAT TIME TO GO FROM PRIMARY TO SECONDARY, AND PARTICULARLY THE WAY THAT WORKS HERE IN THIS SYSTEM IS NOT A FLUID PROCESS.
THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES THERE TO IMPROVE THAT PROCESS.
WHETHER YOU STAY WITH MEDSTAR THAT TRANSFER THINGS, WHAT WE CALL CAD TO CAD DISPATCH, THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS TO DO IT TO SMOOTH THAT PROCESS OUT.
WE'VE DISCUSSED THEM WITH STAFF AND WE THINK THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES THERE.
IT CAN ALSO HELP BETTER QUANTIFY RESPONSE TIME DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE TWO TO THE DEGREE THEY EXIST.
IT IS ONE OF THE AREAS THAT YOU HAVE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO IMPROVE OVERALL RESPONSE TIME.
REMEMBER, I TALKED ABOUT HELLO TO HELLO.
WE TALK ABOUT THE HELLO TO HELLO TIME.
IT'S INTERESTING ONE PLACE THAT THAT YOU HAVE A BETTER OPPORTUNITY TO DO IT FROM A MANAGEMENT PERSPECTIVE, TRAVEL TIME IS SOMEWHAT FIXED.
THE EMERGENCIES HERE, YOU CAN ONLY GO SO FAST.
WE DON'T WANT OUR PEOPLE DRIVING RECKLESS, DON'T WANT THEM DOING SILLY THINGS.
SO IT TAKES WHAT IT TAKES TO GO FROM A TO B.
BUT THE TIME IT TAKES TO PROCESS THE CALL IN 9-1-1, WHETHER YOU HAVE TO TRANSFER THE PERSON OR WHETHER YOU CAN PAY ATTENTION TO YOUR OWN TIME AND THE TIME TO CHURN OUT, THOSE ARE GENERALLY UNDER MANAGEMENT CONTROL.
WE DO NOTE THAT THE DEPARTMENT IS IMPLEMENTING A NEW I THINK IT'S THIS MONTH, THIS MONTH, A NEW FIRE STATION ALERTING SYSTEM THAT THE COUNCIL APPROVED.
SO THAT SHOULD HELP HOPEFULLY IN SOME OF THIS, SO IT'S JUST AN AREA TO FOCUS ON.
WE'VE HIGHLIGHTED THAT NOT UNUSUAL.
WE DO A LOT OF 9-1-1 STUDIES, TOO, AND THESE ARE THE SORT OF ISSUES THAT WE SEE ACROSS THE NATION.
BUT I THINK IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY TO LOOK AT THOSE AGAIN.
WE SAID THAT IF THE CITY DOES ASSUME RESPONSIBILITY FOR TRANSPORT, ONE OF THE THINGS YOU WILL ALSO NEED TO DO IS DEAL WITH 9-1-1.
FOR THEM, WE WOULD RECOMMEND STRONGLY THAT THEY IMPLEMENT A SYSTEM SIMILAR TO THAT THAT MEDSTAR IS DOING.
THERE'S A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT PRODUCTS OUT THERE.
YOU CAN SELECT THE ONE YOU WANT.
BUT AGAIN, TO PRIORITIZE THE CALLS AND TO GIVE THE PRE-ARRIVAL INSTRUCTIONS TO BRING THAT IN-HOUSE IF YOU'RE GOING TO ASSUME TRANSPORTATION.
AND THAT REALLY IS THE PRESENTATION.
BUT WE'RE CERTAINLY HAPPY MYSELF OR DR.
KNIGHT, OR TO THE DEGREE WE NEED TO DRAG THE CHIEF BACK UP HERE ARE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
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ANYBODY.ON ONE SLIDE OR WHEN WE'RE GOING BACK.
I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE TO BEGIN.
THIS IS A LOT OF INFORMATION TO DIGEST.
SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A LOT OF DIFFERENT PIECES, FROM STAFFING TO CAPACITY TO APPARATUSES AND HOUSING THEM.
AND ONE THING YOU MENTIONED WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT POTENTIALLY THE CONSIDERATION OF THE BOXES.
YOU SAID THERE ARE ALTERNATIVES, BUT THERE'S NO ALTERNATIVES LISTED.
SO LET ME GO BACK THERE REAL QUICK COUNCIL MEMBER AND SEE IF I GOT IT HERE.
I THINK THIS IS WHERE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE TOP RECOMMENDATION.
THE CITY SHOULD ASSUME DIRECT RESPONSIBILITY SHOULD THE CITY DESIRE THERE ARE ALTERNATIVES.
ONE IS TO WORK WITH MEDSTAR TO ENSURE THERE'S MORE RESOURCES WITHIN CITY LIMITS BECAUSE.
YES, THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT THEY'VE GOT UNITS WITHIN THE CITY AVAILABLE TO TAKE A CALL.
BECAUSE THE DATA THAT WE SEE DOES NOT REFLECT THAT THEY IT DOESN'T REFLECT THE KIND OF PERFORMANCE WE WOULD EXPECT TO SEE WITH THE TWO UNITS THAT THE CHIEF ARGUABLY COULD PUT ON.
IF WE SAW TWO UNITS THAT WERE AVAILABLE IN THE SYSTEM, WE WOULD NOT EXPECT TO SEE THE RESPONSE TIMES AMBULANCE HERE.
AND IT'S THE FIRST AMBULANCE IS MY UNDERSTANDING TO BE PULLED WHEN IT'S NEEDED IN ANOTHER AREA.
SO IT WILL IT'S PRIORITY AMBULANCE FOR OTHER AREAS AND GETS YANKED OUT OF BURLESON.
I BELIEVE THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING, BUT I DO KNOW THAT WE ONLY HAVE ONE HERE ON A REGULAR BASIS.
SO THE ALTERNATIVE IS MORE MEDSTAR UNITS.
THAT'S AN ALTERNATIVE THAN TRANSPORT.
THE SECOND ALTERNATIVE THAT WE MENTIONED IS THAT IN TIME SENSITIVE CASES WHICH HAVE BEEN GENERALLY SHOWN TO BE SEEN KIND OF TRADING TRAUMA TO THE CHEST, TO THE MAIN BODY, CARDIAC ARREST, ET CETERA, THAT YOUR UNITS HAVE THAT IF YOU HAVE THE BOX, THE AMBULANCE THAT YOU'RE CAPABLE OF TRANSPORTING, THAT THE PROTOCOLS, THE MEDICAL DIRECTION WOULD ALLOW FOR THAT.
THEY DON'T ALLOW FOR THAT NOW.
BUT THOSE ARE TWO ALTERNATIVES TO THAT.
SO WE JUST WE DO POINT THOSE OUT.
THAT WASN'T THE RECOMMENDATION, BUT WE DO.
OBVIOUSLY, WE TRY NOT TO BE TOO PRESCRIPTIVE.
SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COUNCIL WAS AWARE THAT THERE ARE ALTERNATIVES.
YOU SAID THAT WE'RE RESPONDING MORE TO EMS CALLS THAN THAN FIRES? YES.
WHAT DO YOU HAVE ANY INSIGHT INTO WHY THAT IS WHY.
FIRE PREVENTION WEEK SMOKE DETECTORS IN HOMES THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE MORE AND MORE FACILITIES REQUIRING SPRINKLER SYSTEMS REQUIRING ADVANCED FIRE ALARM SYSTEMS, JUST BETTER SAFETY AWARENESS.
OVERALL, WE'VE SEEN THIS DRAMATIC DECREASE NOT JUST IN THE NUMBER OF STRUCTURE FIRES, BUT ALSO IN LOSS OF LIFE OR SIGNIFICANT INJURY.
AT THE SAME TIME, IN THE 70S AND IN THE 80S, AMERICA BECAME AWARE OF SOMETHING CALLED EMS SQUAD 51 EMERGENCY JOHNNY AND ROY, AND IT SWEPT THROUGH THE NATION AS COMMUNITIES STARTED SAYING, WHY? WHY AREN'T WE DOING THAT? WHY DON'T WE HAVE SOMEBODY TO DO THAT, THE OLD THE SYSTEMS OF THOSE DECADES? I WON'T GO TOO MUCH INTO IT.
THE SYSTEM WITH THOSE CASES WERE COMPLETELY INADEQUATE.
THEY WERE NOT GEARED TO GET PEOPLE TO THE HOSPITAL.
AND SO THE FIRE SERVICE, AS IT DID WITH HAZARDOUS MATERIALS, AS IT DID IN OTHER AREAS, SAW A NEED IN THE COMMUNITY AND IT STEPPED INTO IT.
IT STARTED, ARGUABLY IN LOS ANGELES COUNTY.
SOME PEOPLE CLAIM IT'S DADE COUNTY, FLORIDA, MIAMI, FLORIDA.
IT'S IN MATERIAL IT SWEPT THROUGH THE NATION.
SO THE FIRE SERVICE STEPPED INTO IT BECAUSE IT WAS POSITIONED ALREADY IN THE COMMUNITY, HAD RESOURCES, HAD PEOPLE THEY COULD TRAIN TO THAT.
AND IT'S JUST OVER THE PAST THREE DECADES.
BUT NOW THE FIRE SERVICE IS WELL KNOWN.
IT'S VERY WELL POSITIONED TO BE FIRST RESPONSE, RIGHT, TO GET THERE QUICKLY.
THEN THE QUESTION BECOMES DEPENDING ON A LOT OF THE FACTS YOU TALKED ABOUT THE BOXES, THE RESPONSE TIME, RELIABILITY, YOU KNOW, CONCURRENCY UHU.
DOES IT MAKE SENSE FOR THE FIRE SERVICE TO TRANSPORT? MANY COMMUNITIES HAVE SAID YES.
IT MAKES SENSE BECAUSE IT PUTS IT ALL DIRECTLY UNDER THE CONTROL OF THE COUNCIL.
OTHER PLACES SAID NO, WE'RE FINE WORKING WITH A PARTNER THAT MEETS THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY, SO WE'LL USE THEM FOR THE TRANSPORT COMPONENT AND LET THE FIREFIGHTERS KIND OF KEEP THEM IN RESERVE FOR THE OTHER PART, FOR THE FIRST RESPONSE.
YOU MENTIONED THAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS THAT DO TRANSPORT, TRANSPORT MORE
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OFTEN THAN, SAY, A THIRD PARTY.NO, WHAT I SAID IS IN THE NATION, IF YOU LOOK ACROSS THE NATION, DEPENDING ON WHOSE STATISTICS YOU LOOK AT, BUT ABOUT 40 PERCENT OF EMS SYSTEMS ARE FIRE BASED EMS SYSTEMS. IT'S THE LARGEST PERCENTAGE THE TYPE OF SYSTEM WE HAVE FIRE BASED, YOU HAVE PRIVATE, YOU HAVE HOSPITAL BASED SYSTEMS, ETC.
BUT THE FIRE SERVICE IS A SIGNIFICANT AND ARGUABLY THE LARGEST PROVIDER OF EMS, CERTAINLY OF EMS AND ALSO OF TRANSPORT.
THAT'S WHERE HE'S SAYING ACROSS THE BOARD MOST CITIES THIS HIGH NUMBER OF EMS VERSUS FIRE THAT'S COMMON ACROSS THE NATION.
IT'S ALL FIRE BASED, BUT I'VE BEEN JUST AS THE CHIEF ALLUDED TO, I'VE BEEN ON BOTH SIDES OF THIS.
I HAVE BEEN THERE WITH THIRD SERVICE AMBULANCES THAT PROVIDED THE SERVICE AND WE REPLACED THEM AND WE TOOK OVER AND THERE'S OTHER PLACES WHERE I'VE BEEN.
AND FIRE SERVICE WANTED TO TAKE OVER.
THE FACTS DROVE THOSE DECISIONS.
ULTIMATELY, WE QUANTIFIED WHAT WAS HAPPENING, WHAT WAS THE PERFORMANCE, WHAT COULD WE DO, WHAT WE COULDN'T DO, WHAT WAS IT GOING TO COST? AND WE PRESENTED THAT AS POLICY OPTIONS TO THE LEGISLATIVE BODY.
THIS QUESTION ISN'T NECESSARILY FOR YOU, BUT MAYBE MORE BRYAN THE CASE MENTIONING THE CAD SYSTEM AND THE LAG IN COMMUNICATION BETWEEN OUR ONCE OUR 911 PICKS UP AND HAVING TO TRANSFER IT TO MEDSTAR, WOULD THE CAD SYSTEM UPGRADE THAT WE HAVE THAT WE'RE POTENTIALLY TALKING ABOUT OR VISITING WITH THE BOND COMMITTEE REMEDY THAT SITUATION? IT'S CERTAINLY GOING TO IMPROVE IT.
THE SYSTEM HAS A LOT OF INEFFICIENCIES IN IT.
YOU MAY RECALL WE HAD AN ENTIRE CONSULTANT REPORT ON OUR DISPATCH SYSTEM AND WE HIRED MISSION CRITICAL PARTNERS TO LOOK AT THAT, AND THEY PREPARED A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT RECOMMENDATIONS ABOUT HOW TO IMPROVE DISPATCH TIMES.
AND WE'RE IMPLEMENTING A LOT OF THOSE RIGHT NOW, BUT THE CAD SYSTEM WILL HELP AS WELL.
BUT IT'S A LOT OF OTHER THINGS IN ADDITION TO THAT.
I SEE SOME REPRESENTATIVES HERE FROM MEDSTAR AND I DON'T KNOW WHEN IS IT? I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANT TO FINISH QUESTIONS, BUT I'D REALLY LIKE TO UNDERSTAND AND HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE MEETING FOR THAT OR IS IT A WORK SESSION WHERE WE CAN INVITE MEDSTAR TO EXPLAIN, YOU KNOW, LIKE, IS IT ONE UNIT? IS IT ALWAYS PARKED HERE? IS IT CALLED TO OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE PRIORITY? THEN, LIKE, I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND ALL OF THIS.
AND I MEAN, IF WE WERE DECIDING THAT WE WERE GOING TO POTENTIALLY START SHOOTING ROCKETS OFF, I'D HOPE WE'D REALLY DISSECT WHAT THAT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE.
AND I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND EVERY PIECE, AND I KNOW THIS IS JUST ONE SEGMENT OF THIS ENTIRE REPORT.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF TONIGHT'S MEETING IS THE ONE TO UNDERSTAND ALL OF THIS, BUT I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND FROM PHONE, FROM HELLO TO POTENTIAL TRANSPORT.
I NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE WHOLE PROCESS.
WELL, I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE SHOOTING ANY ROCKETS OFF ANYTIME SOON.
SO WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT.
BUT WE HAVE SHARED THE INFORMATION WITH MEDSTAR.
WE TRY TO BE VERY TRANSPARENT WITH THEM AS A PARTNER TO LET THEM KNOW THAT THIS REPORT WAS COMING.
THE FINDINGS ARE PUBLIC AND THAT THIS WOULD BE DISCUSSED.
IF YOU'D LIKE TO HAVE THAT, BE HAPPY TO HAVE MEDSTAR COME UP AND PROVIDE ANY COMMENTS THAT THEY HAVE.
NOT SAYING THAT ANY INFORMATION HASN'T BEEN PUBLIC.
IT'S JUST SO THAT I CAN UNDERSTAND AND ASK QUESTIONS.
CERTAIN PORTIONS OF THAT'S HOW YOU WERE ABLE TO COMBINE SOME INFORMATION AND PUT IT TOGETHER.
BUT I'M IT'S JUST A LOT TO DIGEST.
THE OTHER THING I WOULD SAY IS, AS CHIEF FREEMAN MENTIONED, WE'RE NOT ASKING YOU TO VOTE ON THIS THIS EVENING AND WE WANT WHAT EVERYBODY WANTS FROM THE COUNCIL, FROM MEDSTAR, THE COMMUNITY.
WE WANT THE RIGHT DECISION FOR OUR COMMUNITY, THE BEST DECISION FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
SO WE'RE LOOKING TO GET ALL OF THE INFORMATION IN FRONT OF YOU.
SPEND AS MUCH TIME WITH THE COUNCIL OVER THE NEXT FEW MONTHS AS WE NEED TO TO WORK THROUGH THE ISSUES AND UNDERSTAND IF WE DO DECIDE TO GO DOWN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION.
WHAT ARE ALL THE RAMIFICATIONS OF THOSE DECISIONS? WHAT ARE THE COST? DO WE FULLY UNDERSTAND IT AND WE'LL SPEND AS MUCH TIME AS WE NEED TO TO MAKE SURE WE FULLY VET THAT.
AND THAT'S THE INTENT OF THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF A PROCESS, NOT THE END OF IT.
BECAUSE I JUST DON'T FEEL LIKE IT'S AS EASY AS LET'S JUST REPLACE THE TRUCKS WITH TWO BOX UNITS.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE FULLY VETTING WHAT IS STAFFING GOING TO LOOK LIKE.
I I LOOK AT NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES.
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CROWLEY IS JUST NEXT DOOR AND THEY HAVE A POPULATION OF FIFTEEN THOUSAND AND THEY HAVE TWO AMBULANCES, BUT THAT'S A POPULATION OF FIFTEEN THOUSAND.I LOOK AT MANSFIELD AND THEY HAVE FOUR UNITS AND SO WHAT I JUST I FEEL I KNOW I'M PROBABLY OVERSIMPLIFYING.
LIKE I SAID, IT'S JUST I DON'T KNOW HOW WE'RE GOING TO BREAK THIS DOWN TO MAKE IT LIKE ALL THE DECISIONS THAT WILL NEED TO BE MADE.
BUT I FEEL LIKE THERE'S A LOT THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO UNPACK HERE THINKING ABOUT STAFFING.
AND IN EMS JUST ALONE, LIKE DO WE HAVE TO HAVE OUR OWN MEDICAL DIRECTOR? I PRESUME YOU'RE GOING TO NEED A BATTALION CHIEF BECAUSE THAT'S ITS OWN OR BATTALION CHIEF LEVEL ITS OWN ANIMAL.
WHAT THE BILLING, THE OUT, THE THIRD PARTY BILLING? OR DO WE DO THAT OURSELVES? ARE WE GOING TO NEGOTIATE RATES WITH INSURANCE COMPANIES? I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT IS SET UP FOR SUCCESS IF AND WHEN WE DO MAKE THIS MOVE.
I KNOW SO MANY OF YOU AND I KNOW YOU, YOU CARE FIRST AND FOREMOST ABOUT OUR CITIZENS AND ENSURING THEY GET THE BEST RESPONSE TIME, THE BEST CARE AND YOU I KNOW IT'S WE'RE LOOKING AT MEN AND WOMEN WHO SERVE THEIR ENTIRE CAREERS WITH US.
AND SO I KNOW IT'S I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE PLANNING ADEQUATELY.
WE DON'T WANT TO SET YOU UP FOR FAILURE.
YOU KNOW, WE MAKE A JUMP LIKE SWITCHING OUT TWO TYPES OF VEHICLES, AND THAT'S THE END OF THE CONVERSATION BECAUSE I JUST DON'T BELIEVE IT'S GOING TO BE THAT EASY AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE PREPARED IN FUTURE.
BUT YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE MAKE THIS HAPPEN? HOW DO WE PLAN THROUGH THE NEXT COUPLE OF BUDGETS TO ADD ON THE PEOPLE, ADD ON THE UNITS? SORRY, I'M JUST.
MY WHEELS ARE REALLY TURNING, THIS IS A LOT, I'M SORRY.
I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY REAL QUICK.
I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR THIS VERY COMPREHENSIVE THAT YOU ALL PUT TOGETHER.
I'VE GOT AN EXTENSIVE BACKGROUND IN EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.
AND LIKE SHE'S MENTIONING, IT CAN BE VERY CONVOLUTED.
AND I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR PUTTING US TOGETHER.
IT'S VERY WELL PREPARED AND IT'S GOING TO ALLOW US TO BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD AND BE ABLE TO HAVE SOME OF THOSE GOOD, MEANINGFUL DISCUSSIONS.
COUNCIL MEMBER JOHNSON THOSE ARE VERY VALID POINTS.
AND TO REITERATE WHAT CITY MANAGER LANGLEY SAID, WE HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT EVERYTHING YOU'VE MENTIONED AND WE WILL THINK ABOUT THEM AND VET EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THOSE ISSUES VERY, VERY SUCCINCTLY AND THOROUGHLY.
I WON'T SPEAK FOR MEDSTAR, BUT I CAN ANSWER YOUR QUESTION YOU ASKED EARLIER, MEDSTAR DOES HAVE A UNIT DOWN HERE.
IF ANOTHER CALL COMES IN THEY DISPATCH AGAIN, THIS IS A GENERAL.
I'M NOT GOING TO SPEAK FOR THEM.
BUT IF A CALL COMES IN, THEY ARE BASICALLY GIS LOCATED AVL.
AND IF THAT UNIT THAT'S HERE IN BURLESON CALL COMES IN, THAT'S NEEDED OUTSIDE OF BURLESON, THAT UNIT WILL GO.
THERE'S NO DEDICATED UNIT PER SAY.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WILL GET TO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WANT TO GO AHEAD AND DISCUSS WITH YOU TONIGHT IS THAT WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR IS AN AGREEMENT AND SOME FEEDBACK FROM THE COUNCIL TO COME BACK TO YOU WITH A VERY THOROUGH PLAN ON WHAT IT WOULD TAKE THE STAFFING, EVERYTHING THAT YOU HAVE MENTIONED.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WILL SAY IS I HAVE COMPLETE CONFIDENCE IN THIS REPORT.
I HAVE 100 PERCENT CONFIDENCE IN OUR DEPARTMENT'S CURRENT ABILITY AND FUTURE ABILITY.
IF THE COUNCIL SO CHOOSES TO GO IN THIS DIRECTION, NO ONE HAS EVER SAID WE SHARED WITH THIS WITH MEDSTAR.
NO ONE HAS EVER SAID THAT WE WOULD ONLY GO WITH THIS WITH TWO AMBULANCES.
WE HAVE NUMEROUS OPTIONS AND TOOLS AT OUR DISPOSAL THAT AT THE RIGHT TIME, I'M PREPARED TO BRING FORWARD TO YOU THAT LOOK AT ALTERNATE STAFFING MODELS, ALTERNATE FUNDING.
MOELIER SAID, WE HAVE A VERY UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY.
WE'RE POISED TO POTENTIALLY BRING ENHANCEMENT TO THIS COMMUNITY WITH THE TRANSPORTATION.
IF WE ASSUME THAT THIS COUNCIL DIRECTION WILL NO LONGER BE A 15TH OF A PORTION OF A SYSTEM WILL BE 100 PERCENT OF IT.
AND THAT'S ONE THING TO KEEP IN MIND TOO THAT CURRENTLY, AS A MEMBER OF CITY, WE ARE ONE FIFTEENTH OF THE RESPONSE, SO WE'RE IMPORTANT, BUT WE'RE NOT THE ONLY PERSON.
OUR SOLE PURPOSE HERE TONIGHT AND IN THE FUTURE IS TO PROVIDE THE BEST CARE, EXEMPLARY CARE WITH EXCELLENCE TO OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR COMMUNITY FIRST AND FOREMOST, IT'S NOT
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A SLAM AT MEDSTAR.IF WE DECIDE IF THE COUNCIL DECIDES WHATEVER DECISION, BUT OUR SOLE, MY SOLE, CHARGE AND RESPONSIBILITY IS TO PROVIDE THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF CARE TO THIS COMMUNITY.
ONE HUNDRED PERCENT NOT AS A MEMBER CITY OF A 15TH PERCENT OF A PARTNER.
AND SO WE WILL GET BACK WITH YOU IF IT'S THE COUNCIL'S DIRECTION, WE'LL COME BACK WITH MORE DETAIL.
ADDRESS ALL OF THOSE CONCERNS.
LEGITIMATE CONCERNS, COUNCIL MEMBER JOHNSON, BECAUSE THEY ARE A CRITICAL PORTION OF THIS ANALYSIS AS WE GO FORWARD, IT'S CERTAINLY VALID AND CRITICAL AND WE BELIEVE WE WILL HAVE THE ADEQUATE ANSWERS.
AND IF WE MISS SOMETHING OR THE CONSULTANTS HAVE MISSED SOMETHING, WE'RE GOING TO BE THE FIRST TO SAY, HEY, WE'VE MISSED IT AND WE'RE NOT IN A POSITION THAT WE ONCE THOUGHT WE WERE.
BUT AGAIN, I'VE GOT CONFIDENCE IN THIS AND MY MIND'S NOT MADE UP OTHER THAN FROM THE STANDPOINT OF WE HAVE NEVER GONE IN AND WE WOULD NEVER GO INTO SOMETHING LIKE THIS WITHOUT A VERY THOROUGH VETTING PROCESS.
AND ULTIMATELY, IF Y'ALL GIVE US THE CHARGE AND I'M THE ONE THAT'S RESPONSIBLE TO STAND UP HERE TO YOU AN THIS COMMUNITY, I WILL GUARANTEE YOU WE WILL DO IT AND WE WILL DO IT WITH EXCELLENCE.
THIS REPORT WAS AN INCREDIBLE EYE OPENER TO ME, AND TO ME, IT'S A PARADIGM SHIFT.
YOU KNOW, I THINK ABOUT THIS FROM THE STANDPOINT OF A BUSINESSMAN AND A CONTRACTOR.
AND I THINK I POUR CONCRETE FOR A LIVING.
BUT IF I FIND OUT THAT MY WORKFORCE IS POURING CONCRETE 23 PERCENT OF THE TIME AND PUTTING INSIDE THE SPRINKLER SYSTEM 73 PERCENT OF THE TIME, I'M NOT A CONCRETE CONTRACTOR, I'M A LAWN CONTRACTOR THAT HAS A CONCRETE SIDE BUSINESS.
SO WHAT THIS TO ME MEANS IS THAT BEING A RESPONSIVE ORGANIZATION, WE RESPOND TO THE NEED THAT'S OUT THERE IN THE COMMUNITY, AND WE RESPOND 73 PERCENT OF OUR TIME TO A DIFFERENT NEED.
WE'LL PROBABLY ALWAYS CALL OUR BUILDING'S FIRE STATIONS, AND WE'LL PROBABLY ALWAYS CALL THE MEN AND WOMEN THAT OCCUPY FIREFIGHTERS.
BUT IN REALITY, THEY'RE ONLY FIGHTING FIRES TWO AND A HALF PERCENT OF THE TIME.
IN REALITY, WHAT WE'RE PROVIDING IS MEDICAL CARE, EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES.
SO IF THAT BE THE CASE, AND I BELIEVE IT IS, AND THIS REPORT UNMISTAKABLY SAYS SO, WE NEED TO DIRECT ALL OF OUR THINKING TOWARDS THE MOST EFFICIENT WAY TO MEET THE NEED THAT WE'RE BEING CALLED UPON TO MEET.
AND THAT'S GOING TO MEAN OUR CAPITAL EXPENDITURES ARE GOING TO BE IN THAT DIRECTION.
IT'S GOING TO MEAN OUR STAFFING IS GOING TO BE IN THAT DIRECTION, OUR PROCESSES, OUR WORKFLOW, OUR INFORMATION PROCESSING AND EVERYTHING IS GOING TO BE DIRECTED AROUND MEETING THAT NEED.
SO I THINK WE'VE GOT TO BACK OFF AND TAKE A BROAD VIEW LOOK AT THIS IF AND I HAVE NO INTENTION WHATSOEVER THROWING MEDSTAR UNDER THE BUS, THEY'VE SERVED THE COMMUNITY AS GREAT PARTNERS FOR YEARS NOW AND THEY'VE DONE THEIR JOB.
THEY'VE DONE WHAT'S BEEN ASKED OF THEM.
BUT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT SEVENTY THREE PERCENT OF THE TIME AND SEE WHAT IS THE BEST WAY, THE MOST EFFICIENT WAY.
WE SET OUR PERFORMANCE METRICS AND WE TRY TO MEET THEM.
AND IT DOESN'T MATTER TO ME ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
IF WE'RE DOING IT WITH AMBULANCES THAT WE OWN AND OPERATE OR AMBULANCES, THAT A CONTRACTOR OWNS AND OPERATES.
WE'VE GOT TO GET TO THE RIGHT POINT.
SO I WANT TO CONTINUE TO EXPLORE THE IDEA BECAUSE TO ME, I SEE TOO MUCH SYNERGY BETWEEN WHAT WE'RE ALREADY DOING NOW WITH THE SQUADS AND RESPONDING TO EMT SERVICES.
THE ONLY LIMITATION THAT WE DON'T HAVE TRANSPORT CAPABILITY SEEMS TO ME LIKE WE CAN GREATLY MAKE THIS WORK BETTER IF WE HAVE IF WE'VE DEVELOPED TRANSPORT CAPABILITY SO THAT WE CAN JUST MOVE RIGHT ON FROM ON SEEING CARE TO TRANSPORT TO WITHOUT THAT SECOND, THAT SECOND STEP, THE COMMUNICATION STEP CAN GO AWAY.
THE TRANSFERRING OF RESPONSIBILITY FROM ONE CREW TO THE NEXT CAN GO AWAY, AND THIS CAN ALL BE SEAMLESS.
IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LOT TO CONVINCE ME THAT THE WAY WE'RE DOING IT NOW IS BETTER THAN THAT COULD BE.
I THINK WE NEED TO EXAMINE OUR BUSINESS MODEL FROM THE GROUND UP AND DIRECT IT AROUND WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY DOING AND THINK OF OURSELVES REALISTICALLY DOING WHAT WE ARE ACTUALLY DOING SO.
YOU KNOW, MEDSTAR HAS SERVED US WELL FOR THE NEEDS THEN AT THE SIZE OF THE CITY THAT WE WERE AS WE EXPAND.
AND I MEAN, EVEN YOU NOTING, YOU KNOW, CROWLEY BEING THE SIZE THAT IT IS AND THEY HAVE THEIR OWN TWO AMBULANCES.
THE FACT IS, WITH THE SQUAD CONCEPT, WE'RE SPENDING THE MONEY FOR THE VEHICLES
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ANYWAY OUR GUYS ARE GETTING TRAINED TO BE PARAMEDICS.A LOT OF THEM ARE NOW ACTUALLY.
AND YOU KNOW, THE REALITY OF IT IS, IS THAT WE FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE AS CITIZENS WITH OUR OWN FIRE DEPARTMENT CARING FOR US, AND THEY ARE THE ONES THAT CAN PROVIDE THE BEST COMFORT.
YOU KNOW, WE ALL TRUST IN OUR POLICE AND FIRE DEPARTMENTS AND WHEN WE SEE THEM THERE TO TAKE CARE OF US AND THEY PROVIDE THAT COMFORT ON THAT NEXT LEVEL OF TAKING YOU TO THE HOSPITAL AND THEY'RE THERE WITH YOU DOING AN INTAKE WITH THE ER DEPARTMENT WHEN THEY FIRST GET IN THERE.
YOU KNOW EVERYBODY KNOWS MY HUSBAND'S A FIREFIGHTER HAS BEEN FOR 30 YEARS AND HE'S A PARAMEDIC.
AND YOU KNOW, HONESTLY, IT'S A VERY REWARDING JOB.
THESE GUYS TAKE IT, YOU KNOW, VERY PERSONALLY THAT THEY CARE FOR THESE PEOPLE.
AND KNOWING SO MANY OF OUR FIREMEN HERE IN TOWN, I JUST KNOW THAT THEY CARE THAT MUCH AS WELL.
AND THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE BEST SERVICE ON THIS NEXT LEVEL.
THERE'S JUST NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.
AND AS WE GROW AS A CITY, I THINK THERE'S NO OTHER ALTERNATIVE, IN MY OPINION, IS TO ALLOW OUR DEPARTMENT AND OUR GUYS TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE THE LEVEL OF CARE THEY ARE IN THE SQUAD.
AND THEN SOME NOW, BECAUSE THEY'LL BE ABLE TO HAVE MORE DRUGS ON SCENE AND THE TRANSPORTING PROCESS, AND I THINK WE, YOU KNOW, IT'S A WIN WIN WITH BEING ABLE TO DO OUR OWN BILLING AS WELL.
AND I'M SURE THAT CHIEF, I HAVE FULL CONFIDENCE IN YOU THAT YOU'VE GOT A GREAT PLAN FOR HOW THIS WILL WORK OUT FROM A PERSONAL PERSPECTIVE.
I MEAN, I HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, SINCE WE'RE ALREADY PAYING PARAMEDICS A PARAMEDIC SALARY, WE PROBABLY WOULDN'T HAVE TO PAY THEM MORE WHEN WE'RE JUST SWITCHING VEHICLES, RIGHT? CORRECT.
SO WE'RE GOING TO NOT HAVE AN INCREASED COST THERE.
YOU'RE GOING TO KEEP TRAINING THE GUYS TO BE PARAMEDICS LIKE YOU WERE ALREADY PLANNING.
AND CHIEF AND I HAVE NOT EVEN MET.
I'M JUST ASSUMING, BUT I DO KNOW THE DISPATCH COSTS THAT WILL BE THE BIGGER PART OF IT BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO INCREASE DISPATCH TO BE ABLE TO MANAGE THIS.
BUT FROM A MEDICAL PERSPECTIVE, YOU KNOW, I LOVED YOUR REFERENCE TO SQUAD FIFTY ONE.
IT'S A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF WE TRUST OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT AND OUR POLICE TO TAKE CARE OF US.
THEY'RE THE GUYS ON THE SCENE FIRST AND LET THEM FOLLOW THROUGH.
THAT'S THE SAME GUY YOU'RE GOING TO SEE EVERY TIME YOU THEY ARE OUR GUYS.
SO I THINK MOVING FORWARD IN THIS DIRECTION IS THE BEST WAY TO GO.
YOU KNOW, I'VE GOT 30 YEARS OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT BACKGROUND ON THIS, AND I THINK YOU'RE 100 PERCENT ON POINT ON THE AMBULANCE SERVICE.
I MEAN, NO KNOCK ON MEDSTAR I'VE HAD 28 YEARS WITH MEDSTAR WORKING WITH THEM.
THEY DO A GREAT JOB, BUT AS WE CONTINUE TO GROW, I DON'T SEE ANY GROUP OUT THERE THAT'S GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO THE JOB THAT ARE HOMEGROWN FIREMEN CAN DO.
WE'RE GOING TO SEE A LOT OF GROWTH IN OUR CITY AS WE GET THESE NEW DEVELOPMENTS IN THESE NEW DEVELOPMENTS ARE NOT GOING TO BE IN GOOGLE MAPS.
SO EXPECTING SOMEBODY TO COME IN FROM THE OUTSIDE, BE ABLE TO RESPOND QUICKLY TO A FIRE EMERGENCY WHEN THEY CAN'T EVEN FIND IT.
BECAUSE IT'S NOT ON GOOGLE MAPS, AND THAT'S KIND OF SOME OF THE CHALLENGES WE HAVE IF IT'S NOT HOMEGROWN, YOU KNOW, JUST THE FACT OF THE RESPONSE ITSELF IS GOING TO BE MUCH BETTER FROM OUR OWN AGENCY.
AND THAT'S NOT A KNOCK ON MEDSTAR THERE'S A LOT OF GREAT PEOPLE THERE, BUT I BELIEVE THAT IT IS BY FAR A MUCH BETTER, PROCESS TO BE ABLE TO UTILIZE THAT IN-HOUSE.
WE HAVE BETTER CONTROL OVER THE INDIVIDUALS IF WE HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL THAT'S ON THE AMBULANCE SERVICE THAT WE'RE NOT HAPPY WITH THAT'S A VERY CONTENTIOUS PROBLEM, THEN, OF HOW DO WE ADDRESS THAT CITIZEN COMPLAINT BECAUSE THE AMBULANCE PERSONNEL DIDN'T ACT APPROPRIATELY WHEN THE AMBULANCE PERSONNEL DOESN'T WORK FOR OUR CITY? WHEREAS IF THEY WORK DIRECTLY FOR YOU, I FEEL LIKE I FEEL CONFIDENT THAT YOU CAN ADDRESS ONE OF YOUR EMPLOYEES THAT'S NOT MEETING YOUR STANDARDS.
AND SO I'M ALL IN FAVOR OF LOOKING AT AN AMBULANCE SERVICE.
I THINK YOU GUYS DID A WONDERFUL JOB OF PRESENTING IT.
YOU KNOW, WE TALK ABOUT THE MEDICAL FIELD.
YOU AND YOUR STAFF SAT RIGHT HERE TODAY AND GAVE A PRESENTATION ON COVID AND THE VACCINES YOU ARE GIVING.
THAT'S NOT THE TRADITIONAL, YOU KNOW, FIREMAN ROLE OF GOING OUT THERE AND PUTTING OUT FIRES.
THE FIRE SAFETY INDUSTRY HAS GOTTEN TO THE POINT THAT THE ACTUAL FIRE WORLD IS VERY, VERY MINIMAL AND I'M NOT TELLING YOU ANYTHING YOU DON'T KNOW.
EVEN AT CAR CRASHES, THEY'RE NOT BURNING ANYMORE.
IT'S VERY RARE THAT WE ACTUALLY SEND Y'ALL OUT ON FIRES.
ALMOST EVERYTHING WE DO IS MEDICAL.
AND I THINK IT PROVIDES A MUCH BETTER QUALITY OF SERVICE AND NOT KNOCKING Y'ALL'S QUALITY OF SERVICE.
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YOU ALL HAVE EXCELLENT QUALITY SERVICE, BUT IT'S JUST A MATTER OF GOOD VERSUS GREAT.AND I WANT TO STICK WITH GREAT.
AND TO ECHO THAT, I'VE SINCERELY WANT TO SHARE WITH MEDSTAR THEIR MANAGEMENT, THEIR LEADERSHIP, EVERY EMPLOYEE THAT'S THERE.
THIS IS NOT THIS IS A DIFFICULT CONVERSATION TO HAVE TO SAY THE LEAST.
THEY HAVE GREAT PEOPLE AND THIS IS NOT AN US AGAINST THEM.
AS FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, IT'S SIMPLY WE HAVE A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY AND IT'S NOT ABOUT JUST THE ABILITY TO COST TO RECUR SOME OF OUR COSTS.
BUT THE COUNCIL HAS INVESTED AND INVESTED SIGNIFICANT DOLLARS.
AND I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MAKES US POISED VERY STRATEGICALLY BECAUSE OF OUR SQUAD CONCEPTS.
AND THE MANAGER HAS ALREADY GOT A THIRD SQUAD CONCEPT, YOU KNOW, IN HIS FIVE YEAR PLAN.
AND SO WE HAVE BEEN VERY STRATEGIC NOT TO DEVELOP A TRANSFER TO THE TRANSPORTATION, BUT TO RESPOND EFFECTIVELY AND EFFICIENTLY WITH OUR EMS PROBLEM AND OUR EMS CHALLENGES.
AND AGAIN, WITH THIS STUDY, IT DOES PROVIDE SOME VERY, VERY POSITIVE THINGS FOR THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER.
ULTIMATELY, THE COMMUNITY TO CONSIDER ABOUT THE DELIVERY OF SERVICE AND THEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO RECOVER SOME OF THOSE COSTS THAT WE'RE ALREADY EXPENDING FROM OUR TAXPAYERS, I'M A TAXPAYER AS WELL, SO WE HAVE THE LEVEL OF SERVICE AND AGAIN, NO SLAM, BUT IN MY HEART OF HEARTS, I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT THE BEST LEVEL OF EMS CARE, TREATMENT, TRIAGE AND TRANSPORT THAT CAN BE PROVIDED TO OUR CITIZENS IS THROUGH OUR FIREFIGHTERS.
I'M ON BOARD WITH THE QUALITY I REALLY AM.
I'M ON BOARD WITH THE WHOLE PROGRAM.
BUT ANY TIME I'VE HAD A START UP, I WANTED TO KNOW THE WORST CASE SCENARIO ON THE NUMBERS.
AND [INAUDIBLE] SO ADAMANT ABOUT ONE MILLION FOR THE CITY.
IS THERE ANY CONSIDERATION TO INFLATION OR COST OF MATERIALS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? WHAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH A PROJECT RIGHT NOW THAT OUR BUDGET HAS BEEN BLOWN OUT OF THE WATER.
HOW DO WE HANDLE THAT WHEN WE DO OUR BILLING? DO THEY ENTERTAIN THE INCREASE IN OUR COST AND STUFF WHEN WE'RE BIDDING MEDICARE OR WHATEVER? THAT'S A CONCERN.
WE'RE GOING TO HIT OUR NUMBERS, BUT HOW DO WE ADJUST FOR THE NUMBERS IF THEY'RE NOT ACCURATE? MAYOR FLETCHER THOSE ARE THE CONSIDERATIONS.
LEGITIMATE QUESTIONS, AS YOU'VE SAID EARLIER AND TO COUNCIL MEMBER JOHNSON'S POINT, THERE IS A SLIDE.
IT'S NOT IN HERE, BUT IT'S IN THIS STUDY AND THERE ARE ESTIMATED COST ABOUT A MEDICAL EXAMINER OR A BILLING.
SO THERE'S ALL THESE DETAILS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO GET BACK WITH YOU.
THERE ARE CONSULTANTS, THERE'S PROFESSIONALS THAT IF WE GO DOWN THIS, THIS ROAD AND I'M ASKING YOU TO GIVE ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME BACK TO YOU WITH MORE THOROUGH AND THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE A ONE AND DONE, OBVIOUSLY.
AND IF THE ULTIMATE DECISION IS GIVING FOR US TO TO TAKE OVER THE TRANSPORTATION, WE'RE PROBABLY TALKING ABOUT TWO YEARS AND THAT BETTER TWO YEAR PROCESS.
AND I THINK THAT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.
AND TO REITERATE WHAT I SAID EARLIER, MEDSTAR, WHETHER WE'RE IN THE PRIMARY TRANSPORTATION POSITION, WE MUST HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH MEDSTAR AND IT IS OUR SINCERE DESIRE FOR THEM TO HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH US AND FOR US TO HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM AND NOT ONLY THEM, BUT THE OTHER EMS PROVIDERS AROUND HERE.
NO SYSTEM, FIRE OR EMS, INCLUDING MEDSTARS EMS CAN SOLELY PROVIDE ALL OF THE COVERAGE THAT'S NECESSARY AT ANY GIVEN TIME.
MEDSTAR HAS AUTOMATIC MUTUAL AID.
OUR DESIRE IS TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THEM IN WHATEVER CAPACITY THE COUNCIL DIRECTS US.
BUT WE'D ALSO BE WORKING WITH CARE FLIGHT.
WE'D ALSO BE WORKING WITH AMR, WITH CROWLEY, PERHAPS MANSFIELD.
WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE, AND OUR INTENTION WOULD BE TO HAVE MUTUAL AND AUTOMATIC AID.
WE HAVE TO JUST LIKE THEY HAVE TO.
SO A LOT TO THINK ABOUT AND A LOT TO DISCUSS IN THE FUTURE.
SO I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU, BUT CAN YOU CLARIFY THE CROWLEY STAFFING OF THEIR AMBULANCE UNITS? AMBULANCES AND BUT THEY'RE NOT ALWAYS STAFFED.
IF I'M WRONG, I STAND CORRECTED.
CHIEF BROOKS WILL LET ME KNOW IN THE MORNING, BUT I BELIEVE THEY THEY HAVE.
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THEY HAVE A AMBULANCE THAT IS STAFFED AND THEN WHEN THEIR STAFFING IS AVAILABLE, THEY WILL PROVIDE A SECOND AMBULANCE WHERE AGAIN.AND IT SHOWS A CONTRAST NOT TO JUST AS A CONTRAST TO IN OUR SYSTEM.
WE HAVE THE SQUADS THAT WE HAVE, THE STAFFING AVAILABLE AND MORE STAFFING COMING THAT WE CAN PROVIDE STAFF DEDICATED TO TRANSPORT.
AND AGAIN, THAT'S JUST ONE OF THE UNIQUE THINGS THAT THIS COUNCIL, THIS COMMUNITY HAS PAID FOR.
AND WE BELIEVE AGAIN, THE NEXT LEVEL OF ENHANCEMENT WOULD BE THE TRANSPORT SIDE.
BUT DOES THAT ANSWER A QUESTION ABOUT CROWLEY? WHERE DO YOU STAND ON THIS? VICTORIA, YOU READY TO GO FORWARD.
I DON'T THINK WE'RE MAKING ANY DECISIONS TODAY.
JUST I APPRECIATED HOW DAN EXPLAINED IT MADE.
I APPRECIATE THIS INFORMATION.
IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE HOW WE KNOW WHAT WE NEED AND WHAT AREAS.
AND THIS IS A GROWING COMMUNITY THAT'S A LOT TO THINK ABOUT AND WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE COVERING OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR CITIZENS TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY.
AND I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH SO MANY OF THE SENTIMENTS SHARED TONIGHT ABOUT THE STAFF THAT SERVES THIS COMMUNITY OUR FIRE AND POLICE IT'S NOT JUST A JOB, THEY PUT THEIR HEART INTO IT, AND SO MANY OF THESE INDIVIDUALS EITHER GREW UP HERE, HAVE FAMILY THAT LIVE HERE, LIVE HERE THEMSELVES.
THEY IT'S WE'RE GOING BACK TO THAT SMALL TOWN FEEL.
WE KNOW THOSE ARE FACES AND PEOPLE THAT WE KNOW AND CONNECT WITH.
AND I HAD MY FIRST AMBULANCE RIDE JUST A FEW WEEKS AGO.
AND SO I GOT TO EXPERIENCE THIS WHOLE THING.
I CALLED 911 AND I WAS DOWNPLAYING THE SEVERITY OF MY SITUATION AND THEY'RE LIKE, YOU'RE PROBABLY ONE STEP FROM NO LONGER BREATHING.
I THINK WE SHOULD DEFINITELY SEND MEDSTAR, AND I WAS LIKE, OH, I THINK I'LL BE OK.
AND THE HOUR EVERYONE WAS SO PROFESSIONAL AND SO WONDERFUL.
THE CARE THAT I RECEIVED FROM BOTH OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT AND MEDSTAR.
I WAS VERY FORTUNATE AND I KNOW THAT WE'RE JUST BLESSED TO HAVE THE PEOPLE THAT SERVE IN OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT THAT WE DO.
AND THEY CAME IN AND THEY WERE SO THOROUGH.
AND THE BEST AND MOST EMOTIONAL PART FOR ME WAS WHEN MY LITTLE BOY, MY THREE YEAR OLD, WATCHED ME GET IN AN AMBULANCE.
THE AMAZING FIRE RESPONSE TEAM WAS DISTRACTING HIM WITH THE TRUCK AND SHOWING HIM NEAT THINGS.
AND IT'S JUST THAT'S WHAT MAKES US SPECIAL, AND THAT'S WHAT MAKES OUR PEOPLE STAND OUT BECAUSE THEY CARE.
AND I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT THAT'S THE SERVICE, THAT'S THE LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT THEY PROVIDE, WHATEVER WE'RE DOING.
AND I APPRECIATE THE PERSPECTIVE THAT DAN JUST SPELLING IT OUT IN THAT HE'S IN CONCRETE AND ALL OF A SUDDEN, IF THEY'RE DOING SOMETHING ELSE, THEN THIS AND THAT MADE TOTAL SENSE TO ME.
I JUST WANT TO ENSURE THAT IF WE MAKE A LEAP LIKE THIS, THAT WE'RE SETTING UP OUR DEPARTMENT FOR SUCCESS, THAT WE'RE NOT, JUST LIKE MAYOR FLETCHER SAID.
WE NEED TO SEE, YOU KNOW, TRULY WHAT IS THE LIKE? IS IT TWO UNITS? IS IT THREE UNITS? IS IT TWO? AND WE KEEP A SQUAD? IS IT WHAT DOES ALL OF THAT LOOK LIKE? AND I DON'T KNOW.
I'M NOT IN EMERGENCY RESPONSE, SO I DON'T KNOW.
YOU KNOW WHAT, WHEN THEY SAY THAT AN AMBULANCE AFTER TRANSPORT IS STAYING AT THE HOSPITAL, THEY HAVE WHAT IS IT BECAUSE THEY CAN'T OFFLOAD THE PATIENT? IS IT BECAUSE THEY'RE DOING PAPERWORK OR DOES IT MATTER WHETHER IT'S MEDSTAR OR BURLESON FIRE DEPARTMENT, THEY'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE THAT SAME.
SO I JUST WANT TO REALLY UNDERSTAND THIS FROM TOP TO BOTTOM AND WHAT IT WILL ALL INTEL AND ENSURING THAT WE'RE SETTING UP OUR DEPARTMENT FOR SUCCESS WHEN IT IS TIME TO MAKE THAT MOVE.
I KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT WE'RE TRAINING.
I THINK WE SEND ONE OR TWO PEOPLE A YEAR TO TRAIN FOR PARAMEDICS.
AND SO I KNOW THAT WE'RE DOING.
WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE EVEN? HOW ARE WE GOING TO MAKE EVERYONE A PARAMEDIC? WHAT DOES ALL OF WITH OR WITHOUT THE TRANSPORT? AND IS ONE PARAMEDIC OR TWO PARAMEDICS ON EVERY SINGLE TRANSPORT UNIT.
I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND THE WHOLE GAMUT AND WHAT THIS WHAT DOES THE TRANSITION REALLY LOOK LIKE? AND IT'S NOT JUST PURCHASING TWO BOXES AND HERE WE GO.
I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE THE STAFF FOR TWO SQUADS SO WE CAN EASILY MAKE THAT TRANSITION.
BUT IS THAT ENOUGH FOR OUR POPULATION GROWTH?
[03:25:02]
RIGHT.AND AGAIN, TO YOUR POINT, MAYOR, THE ONE MILLION, WE BELIEVE THAT'S A CONSERVATIVE NUMBER.
AND LIKE I'VE SAID EARLIER, THIS IS NOT ABOUT MONEY.
BUT I WANT TO SAY THAT VERY CLEARLY AND RESOUNDINGLY TO EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU ON THE COUNCIL AND OUR COMMUNITY.
THIS IS THAT'S GREAT, BUT I'M SAYING IT'S NOT ABOUT MONEY.
THAT THERE'S, WE THINK, PROBABLY ONE POINT FIVE MILLIONISH BASED ON CONVERSATIONS AND SOME DATA.
WELL, IT'S GOT TO BE, THOUGH, BECAUSE WE'RE GOING INTO A TIME WHEN EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW IS GOING SKYROCKETING ON PRICE.
SO IT'S GOT TO BE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MONEY.
NO DOUBT I AGREE WITH THAT, BUT WE STILL GOT TO CONSIDER THE MONEY HERE.
WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE GETTING INTO PRICE WISE.
SO AND WE'RE NOT DISAGREEING AND I THINK AND TONIGHT I GOT TO AGREE WITH VICTORIA ON ONE THING.
WE HAD INFORMATION OVERLOAD TONIGHT AND IT WAS HARD REALLY TO TAKE IT ALL IN AND SORT IT OUT.
I DON'T MEAN THIS BAD IN ANYWAY.
[LAUGHTER] I WAS WATCHING THE CLOCK A COUPLE OF TIMES AND I WAS KIND OF LIKE, WELL, MAYBE HE'S [INAUDIBLE] NO.
GOOD, GOOD STUFF TONIGHT, AND I'M ON BOARD.
I THINK EVERYBODY UP HERE IS ON BOARD TO GO TO THE NEXT STEP.
I DIDN'T MEAN TO CUT YOU OFF, BUD.
I'M THE CEO OF MEDSTAR, AND I JUST WANTED TO OFFER ANY INFORMATION THAT YOU ALL WANT TO HAVE.
WE'D LOVE TO COME SPEAK AT A WORK SESSION.
WE'VE BEEN PROVIDING SERVICE TO BURLESON FOR THIRTY THREE YEARS.
A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE IT.
WE'RE NOT A SEPARATE CONTRACTOR.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE TAKE IT VERY SERIOUSLY TO YOUR POINT.
I KNOW THE BURLESON FIREFIGHTERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT ARE HERE.
I'VE GOT ALL THE RESPECT IN THE WORLD FOR CASEY AND K.T..
YOU KNOW, WE'VE COMMITTED TO WORK WITH THEM AND BRYAN, FOR THAT MATTER.
I DIDN'T MEAN TO LEAVE YOU OUT THROUGH THIS WHOLE CONVERSATION.
YOU KNOW, A LOT OF OUR EMPLOYEES LIVE AND WORK HERE.
BUT IT IS A LOT OF INFORMATION TO DIGEST AND WORK THROUGH.
NORMALLY WE DO LIKE A MEDSTAR 101 AS PEOPLE COME ON COUNCILS AND MAYOR AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
IT'S NOT AN EXCUSE THAT WE'RE HIDING BEHIND COVID, BUT IN ALL HONESTY, IT KIND OF HAD TO STOP BECAUSE OF COVID.
AND SO GETTING IT STARTED BACK.
THE DOWNSIDE IS, IN SITUATIONS LIKE THIS, WE'RE A LITTLE BEHIND THE EIGHT BALL BECAUSE YOU'RE TRYING TO LEARN ABOUT YOUR PROVIDER, ABOUT EMS AND ALL THE THINGS THAT GO INTO THAT.
AS AN OWNER MEMBER CITY OF OURS, WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION TO MAKE THE BEST DECISION.
AND IF THAT DECISION IS TO GO INTO THE TRANSPORT BUSINESS, WE'LL FULLY SUPPORT THAT.
SO BUT YOU KNOW, HOWEVER YOU LIKE TO DO THAT, LIKE I SAID, I DON'T HAVE ANY PRESENTATIONS.
I WAS NOT SURE WHETHER I'D EVEN HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TONIGHT, BUT WE WOULD LOVE TO COME BACK AND PROVIDE A PRESENTATION OR HAVE YOU UP TO MEDSTAR TO SEE WHAT WE DO.
WE HAVE AN INTERNATIONALLY ACCREDITED CALL CENTER FOR THE LAST DECADE.
WE PROCESS OUR 9-1-1 CALLS FROM ABOUT FORTY TWO SECONDS FROM THE TIME THAT WE FROM THE HELLO UNTIL THEY ACTUALLY DISPATCH AN AMBULANCE.
AND SO WE HAVE REALLY GOOD CALL METRICS.
CHIEF DAVIS IS THE CHAIR OF OUR FIRST RESPONDER ADVISORY GROUP, WHICH WE'VE ALSO PUT TOGETHER TO TAKE FEEDBACK AND HELP PRODUCE THE RESPONSE, TIME METRICS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND SO WITH THAT INPUT, WE'VE REALLY WE FEEL LIKE WE'VE BUILT AN EXCELLENT SERVICE.
IT IS ACTUALLY NATIONALLY RECOGNIZED AS ONE OF THE MOST EXCELLENT SERVICES IN THE COUNTRY.
SO WE'VE HAD PEOPLE COME INTERNATIONALLY TO TAKE TOURS OF WHAT WE DO AND HOW WE DO IT.
AND AGAIN, I'M HAPPY TO PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION TO YOU ALL.
I WOULD LOVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SIT DOWN AND DO THAT FOR YOU ALL IN A MORE FORMAL PRESENTATION TYPE SETTING SO THAT IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE DIGESTIBLE AND PERHAPS SO THAT YOU CAN SEE IT AND SEE KIND OF HOW THE SYSTEM WORKS.
BECAUSE THE NUMBER OF AMBULANCES WE HAVE HERE AT A TIME, IT VARIES.
INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, ON THE WAY DOWN HERE, MATT HAS THIS CAT AND THIS LITTLE SUV, AND
[03:30:02]
I'M SURE IT WASN'T DRIVING WHILE HE'S TAKING A SCREENSHOT OF IT.BUT WE HAVE THREE AMBULANCES DOWN HERE AT THAT TIME TO THEIR POINT.
SOMETIMES WE MAY HAVE ONE AND IT MAY GET PULLED TO ANOTHER AREA OF THE SYSTEM DURING A CALL.
I MEAN, WHAT THE CHIEF SAID IS EXACTLY ACCURATE.
THAT'S KIND OF HOW THAT WORKS A LITTLE BIT, BUT WE'D LOVE TO DESCRIBE THAT IN MORE DETAIL.
IT'S A LOT OF ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE BUILT INTO IT, AND IT'S REALLY IT'S ACTUALLY KIND OF COOL TO WATCH.
WHEN WE FIRST TURNED IT ON, YOU KNOW, THE CAD WAS MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS TO WHAT WE CALL DOUBLE POST AMBULANCES.
IN OTHER WORDS, PUT TWO AMBULANCES IN ONE SPOT AND ONE OF OUR DISPATCHERS WAS LIKE, WE DON'T DO THAT AND WE'RE LIKE, THE CAD GUYS WERE LIKE, JUST WATCH.
AND SURE ENOUGH, THE FIRST ONE CAUGHT A CALL AND THE SECOND ONE FILLED RIGHT IN BEHIND THEM.
SO SOME OF THE ADVANTAGES OF THIS SYSTEM IS I'VE GOT SIXTY FIVE AMBULANCES.
I'VE ORDERED ANOTHER 10, SO WE HAVE SEVENTY FIVE AMBULANCES.
WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO FLEX UP.
YOU KNOW, WE PROVIDED UP TO FIVE AMBULANCES DOWN HERE IN BURLESON IT ON CALLS BEFORE WE HAVE ALL THE DEMAND OUT AS WELL.
WE'RE HAPPY TO SHARE THAT WE'VE TALKED A LITTLE BIT WITH BRYAN AND CASEY AND K.T.
SO AGAIN, IT'S JUST I WOULD REALLY LIKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE INVOLVED IN THE CONVERSATION UNDERSTANDING I AM THE CEO OF MEDSTAR.
I HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A VESTED INTEREST IN ONE WAY WE ARE VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT EMS. THAT'S WHAT I'VE DEDICATED MY LIFE TO.
WE HAVE AN ENTIRE WE HAVE A MEDICAL DIRECTOR THAT IS ENTIRELY INDEPENDENT.
I CANNOT SWAY HIS DECISION AND THE SYSTEM IS BUILT THAT WAY BECAUSE WHEN I WAS LIKE EIGHT YEARS OLD IN 1988 PEOPLE SITTING IN YOUR SEATS MADE THE DECISION THAT THEY WANTED TO HAVE A VERY CLINICALLY STRONG EMS SYSTEM, VERY FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE, THERE'S NO DIRECT SUBSIDY FROM THE CITY OF BURLESON INTO THAT, ALTHOUGH THERE IS A LOT OF EXPENSE TIED TO FIRST RESPONSE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THE CITIES DO CONTRIBUTE.
SO IF YOU ALL ARE WILLING, WE'RE HAPPY TO PUT THAT PRESENTATION TOGETHER.
CAN HELP SET THAT UP, OR I CAN GIVE EVERYBODY MY CARD.
I THINK THAT'S A LITTLE LESS EFFICIENT WAY TO DO IT.
[LAUGHTER] BUT HOWEVER YOU ALL WOULD LIKE, I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE ALSO.
YEAH, I'D LIKE TO REQUEST A WORK SESSION JUST TO TALK THROUGH.
I DIDN'T GET THE ONE ON ONE OR I WOULDN'T BE.
I WOULDN'T HAVE A DEER IN HEADLIGHTS LOOK.
WE JUST DID THIS WITH THE CITY OF FORT WORTH AND THEIR CITY MANAGER AND ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER AND THEIR FIRE CHIEF AND FOR THEIR CITY MANAGER AND ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER.
THEY REALLY THEY FELT THERE WAS A LOT OF VALUE IN IT.
THEY GOT TO ASK A LOT OF QUESTIONS AND GET A LOT OF ANSWERS TO IT BECAUSE IT'S LITERALLY I'VE DONE THIS FOR OVER 20 YEARS.
MATT, I THINK, WAS IN A HEARSE WHEN THE EMS WAS RUNNING A HEARSE, K.T.
SO WE TRULY HAVE HAVE SPENT DECADES LEARNING THERE'S A LOT, A LOT OF MATH.
AS THESE GUYS HAVE POINTED OUT, FITCH IS CERTAINLY NATIONALLY KNOWN AND WE'RE VERY FAMILIAR WITH THEM.
BUT THERE IS A LOT OF MATH THAT'S INVOLVED IN THAT AND JUST RUNNING AN EMS SERVICE ON A DAILY BASIS AND TRYING TO PROVIDE AS MUCH VALUE AS WE CAN POSSIBLY PROVIDE TO IN OUR CITIES.
YEAH, I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST WHEN WE BRING BACK SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT CAME UP TODAY, TRANSITION WHAT THAT PLAN WOULD LOOK LIKE.
WE CAN INVITE MEDSTAR TO COME HERE AND PRESENT ON THEIR SYSTEM.
IT'S A COMMUNITY CONVERSATION IT NEEDS TO BE HERE AT THE COUNCIL MEETING, IN MY OPINION, SO WE CAN HAVE THAT INFORMATION HERE FOR THE COMMUNITY AND THE COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC AT LARGE.
AND I WANT TO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR COMING OUT AND SPENDING TIME WITH US THIS EVENING.
HAVE KNOWN YOU FROM THE FORT WORTH SIDE.
I'VE GOT OVER TWENTY EIGHT YEARS THERE.
I KNEW YOU FROM OVER THERE, SO Y'ALL DO AN EXCELLENT [INAUDIBLE].
SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT AT NO POINT DID I HOPEFULLY DID YOU THINK THAT I WAS BAD MOUTHING YOU OR ANYTHING.
YOUR ORGANIZATION IS TOP NOTCH AND BUT I LIKE OUR FIREFIGHTERS, SO I DO THINK IT WOULD BE VERY.
BE ADVANTAGEOUS FOR TO COME IN AND SHARE WITH INDIVIDUALS NOT IN THIS REALM.
SO WHETHER THEY CAN GET A CHANCE TO HEAR AND SEE EXACTLY HOW THIS WHOLE PROCESS WORKS AND HOW ALL THE PIECES FIT, AND THE DYNAMIC DISPATCH SYSTEM THAT IS IN PLACE WITH THE CAD AND HOW UNITS ARE DECIDED, WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO BE ASSIGNED AT, HOW THEY FIT, HOW THEY GO IN THOSE DIFFERENT LOCATIONS.
MAYOR AND COUNCIL THAT BRINGS US TO SECTION NINE.
[9. CITY COUNCIL REQUESTS FOR FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS OR REPORTS]
CITY COUNCIL REQUEST FOR FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS OR REPORTS.[03:35:02]
RIGHT.YOU GOT ME DOWN FOR ONE I SAID NOTHING, I DIDN'T SAY A THING.
OK, VICTORIA, YOU HAVE ANYTHING.
SO I'D LIKE TO REQUEST THAT WORK SESSION.
ALSO LAST MEETING, WE DISCUSSED THE VALET AND I HAVE TALKED TO A NUMBER OF CITIZENS AND BUSINESSES AND PEOPLE ACROSS TOWN.
MY ONE HESITATION WAS THAT WE WERE I DEFINITELY THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO EXPLORE PARKING OPTIONS AND AND SEE, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S GOING TO WORK FOR OUR COMMUNITY, FOR THE GROWTH THAT'S HAPPENING IN OLD TOWN? BUT I'M WONDERING IF WE'RE A LITTLE.
I WAS WONDERING IF WE WERE A LITTLE PREMATURE IN DOING OUR TRIAL WHEN IN ABOUT A YEAR, WE WILL HAVE POTENTIALLY THREE BRAND NEW BUSINESSES OPENING RAZOO'S, HEIM AND STATION 330.
SO I WAS WORRIED THAT IF WE DO THIS TRIAL NOW THAT THE COMMUNITY MAY NOT BE OPEN TO OTHER TRIALS IN THE FUTURE, SAY A YEAR FROM NOW.
BUT EVERY TIME SOME DEVELOPMENT IS HAPPENING IN OLD TOWN CITIZENS RIGHTFULLY SO BRING UP PARKING CONCERNS.
SO I'M JUST WONDERING IF WE COULD GET AN UPDATE LIKE AT A MONTH.
I KNOW WE SAID A TWO MONTH TRIAL, BUT COULD WE LOOK AT IT AT OUR DECEMBER MEETING AND KIND OF SEE WHERE WE ARE IN THAT ONE MONTH.
SO IF I CAN WEIGH IN ON THAT, I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT.
I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR, I DON'T THINK THIS IS NOT AN ITEM POSTED ON THE AGENDA SO THIS ISN'T.
I CAN CERTAINLY BRING BACK MORE INFORMATION TO YOU IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE REQUESTING COUNCIL MEMBER JOHNSON AND COUNCIL MEMBER STANFORD I DIDN'T MEAN, INTERRUPT YOU, BUT I JUST IT'S NOT POSTED.
I DIDN'T MEAN THIS TO COME OUT IN THAT WE MADE THE WRONG CHOICE.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE EXPLORE IT LIKE, LOOK AT IT AT A ONE MONTH.
AND THEN IF WE THINK IT'S WARRANTING A SECOND MONTH, DO THE SECOND MONTH TRIAL, WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT IT.
WANT HIM TO BRING FORWARD AND NOT, YEAH.
I CAN BRING IT FORWARD ON THE DECEMBER 13TH AGENDA.
AT THIS TIME WE HAVE NO NEED FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION.
WE TOOK CARE OF THAT EARLIER IN THE MEETING.
MAYOR, IF YOU COULD ASK FOR A MOTION AND A SECOND TO ADJOURN AND REQUIRES NO VOTE.
I GOT A MOTION BY DAN AND A SECOND BY JIMMY, AND I WANT TO CLOSE THIS AT 10:01.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.