Sep 13, 2021 City Council Special Session

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

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[INAUDIBLE] THE COUNCIL HOLD ON MINUS ONE MEMBER PRESENT, SO, MAYOR, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER.

GOOD MORNING, EVERYBODY. I WANT TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER AT 9:05.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO OUR FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA, WE ARE GOING TO CALL THESE LIKE WE DID

[2. GENERAL]

SO THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS 2A, WHICH IS CONSIDER APPROVAL OF AN ORDINANCE APPROVING AND ADOPTING THE BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 2021-2022 BEGINNING OCTOBER 1ST, 2021 AND TERMINATING SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2022.

ITEM 2B, CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A MINUTE ORDER RATIFYING THE ADOPTION OF THE FISCAL YEAR 2021-2022 ANNUAL OPERATING BUDGET FOR THE FISCAL YEAR BEGINNING OCTOBER 1ST, 2021 AND ENDING SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2022.

ITEM 2C, CONSIDER APPROVAL OF AN ORDINANCE LEVYING THE AD VALOREM PROPERTY TAXES OF THE CITY OF BURLESON FOR THE YEAR 2021 ON ALL TAXABLE PROPERTY WITHIN THE CORPORATE LIMITS OF THE CITY ON JANUARY 1, 2021 AND ADOPTING A TAX RATE OF 0.6859 CENTS PER 100 DOLLAR VALUATION OF 2021.

THAT'S ALSO PROVIDING REVENUES FOR PAYMENTS OF CURRENT MUNICIPAL MAINTENANCE AND OPERATING EXPENSES AND FOR PAYMENT OF INTEREST AND PRINCIPAL ON OUTSTANDING CITY OF BURLESON DEBT. 2D, CONSIDER APPROVAL OF AN ORDINANCE APPROVING THE 2021 TAX ROLLS AND DECLARING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

2E, CONSIDER APPROVAL OF AN ORDINANCE PROVIDING A FISCAL YEAR 2021-2022 SCHEDULE OF FEES FOR VARIOUS CITY SERVICES.

2F, CONSIDER APPROVAL OF AN ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING FISCAL YEAR 2021-2022 RATES FOR WATER AND WASTEWATER SERVICES.

2G, CONSIDER APPROVAL OF AN ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING FISCAL YEAR 2021-2022 RATES FOR COLLECTION AND DISPOSAL OF RESIDENTIAL AND NONRESIDENTIAL SOLID WASTE RECYCLABLES AND TRASH.

2H, CONSIDER APPROVAL OF AN ORDINANCE PROVIDING FOR A RESIDENTIAL HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION FROM AD VALOREM PROPERTY TAXES FOR TAX YEAR 2022 AND ALL FUTURE YEARS, UNLESS REVISED AT AN AMOUNT EQUAL TO THE SUM OF ONE PERCENT OF THE APPRAISED VALUES.

AND THEN THAT'S IT RIGHT THERE THOSE ARE ALL MARTIN AVILA'S, DIRECTOR OF FINANCE.

MR. AVILA? THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

AND IT IS A PRIVILEGE TO KIND OF COME TO THAT FINAL STAGE OF ADOPTING OUR FISCAL YEAR 2022 BUDGET.

AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I PROVIDE IS KIND OF GIVE YOU A SNAPSHOT OF ALL OF THE DIFFERENT FUNDS THAT ARE PRESENTED IN THIS PROPOSED BUDGET.

THEY'RE BOTH OPERATIONAL AND THEY'RE BOTH CAPITAL.

SO IT INCLUDES A COMBINATION OF THE TWO.

BUT ALL OF THIS, IN ESSENCE, IS BEING PROPOSED AS TO WHAT IS GOING TO BE SPENT IN FISCAL YEAR 2022.

SO APPROXIMATELY 155 MILLION FOR ALL THE FUNDS COMBINED.

ONE OF THE LARGEST FUNDS WITH THE CITY IS THE GENERAL FUND.

AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS YOU WANTED TO SHOW YOU IS IN REGARDS TO THE ASSESSED VALUE, WHICH IS THE LARGEST SOURCE OF REVENUES THAT COMES INTO THE GENERAL FUND.

AND SO FOR FISCAL YEAR 2022, BASED UPON THE CERTIFIED ROLLS, WE HAVE A 3.1 PERCENT INCREASE IN EXISTING PROPERTIES AND 15 PERCENT GROWTH FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION.

AS WE PREPARED THE FIVE YEAR PROJECTIONS FOR FISCAL YEAR '23-26.

WE ARE STILL ASSUMING A 3 PERCENT GROWTH ON EXISTING PROPERTIES AND A TWO PERCENT GROWTH FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION TO BE ON A CONSERVATIVE BASIS AS WE PROJECT OVER A FIVE YEAR PERIOD.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, BEFORE STARTING WITH FISCAL YEAR 2023-26, WE'VE ALSO INCLUDED A ONE PERCENT HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION.

AND SO THAT IS AN ORDINANCE THAT WE'RE BRINGING IN AS WELL TO APPROVE.

ALTHOUGH, WE'RE APPROVING NOW, IT DOESN'T TAKE EFFECT UNTIL FISCAL YEAR 2023.

SO THAT IS THE ONLY ITEM THAT WILL NOT HAVE ANY IMPACT IN FISCAL YEAR '22, BUT IT ALLOWS US TO PREPARE OUR PROJECTIONS.

IT ALLOWS US TO GET THE ORDINANCES AND THE APPROVALS INTO OUR APPRAISAL DISTRICTS, SO THEY COULD ALSO BE AWARE AND BE ABLE TO PUT THAT IN THEIR SYSTEM TO BE ABLE TO CALCULATE WHAT THE ASSESSED VALUES WILL BE.

SO AND AGAIN, ALSO IT IS A, WHAT I WANTED TO, ONE OF THE THINGS WE WORKED HARD ON WAS LOOKING AT THE PROPERTY TAX RATE.

AND SO FOR THIS COMING YEAR, WE DID PROPOSE A DECREASE OF ABOUT TWO AND A HALF CENTS TO OVERALL A 0.6859 PER HUNDRED DOLLAR VALUE.

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IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE'VE ALSO HAD THE SALES TAX, WHICH IS THE SECOND LARGEST REVENUE SOURCE IN THE GENERAL FUND.

AND SO FOR FISCAL YEAR '21, WE ARE PROJECTING A 12 PERCENT INCREASE IN SALES TAX.

GOING FORWARD, WE ARE IN ESSENCE PROJECTING A 3 PERCENT INCREASE FOR THE NEXT FOLLOWING FOUR YEARS. KIND OF GIVES YOU A RATE HISTORY OF WHERE WE'RE AT AND WHAT WE'VE BEEN.

AGAIN, WE ARE PROPOSING A A TAX RATE OF 0.6859.

THE CURRENT YEAR WE'RE IN NOW, IT WAS 0.7111 PER HUNDRED DOLLAR VALUE.

SO THAT IS ABOUT A TWO AND A HALF CENT REDUCTION IN THE OVERALL TAX RATE.

IN ADDITION TO THAT KIND OF GIVES YOU A SNAPSHOT OF WHAT THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION SAVINGS WILL BE. AND AGAIN, WE ARE INTRODUCING A ONE PERCENT INCREASE.

THIS THE FIRST HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION THAT WE ARE OFFERING IN THE CITY OF BURLESON, AND THE GOAL IS THAT WE CONTINUE TO INCREASE IT OVER A YEAR.

SO AGAIN, WITHIN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, WE, YOU KNOW, OR FROM TWENTY 3 TO TWENTY SIX, WE ARE ONE PERCENT INCREMENTS GOING UP.

SO ONE FOR TWENTY 3 TO FOUR, TWENTY FOUR 3 FOUR TWENTY FIVE.

AND SO THAT KIND OF GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF WHERE WE'RE AT IN REGARDS TO THAT.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I DO WANT TO MENTION AS IT RELATES TO THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION IS IT'S ONE PERCENT OF THE OF THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY, BUT THERE IS A THERE IS A MINIMUM OF FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS.

SO IF THE TAX RATE OR THE VALUE AND THE ONE PERCENT HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION IS BELOW THE FIVE THOUSAND, THEN IT'LL AUTOMATICALLY BE A FIVE THOUSAND EXEMPTION.

SO IT'S THE TAX.

THE EXEMPTION OF THE ONE PERCENT, TWO PERCENT WILL ACTUALLY BE IMPACTED ONCE IT GOES BEYOND THE FIVE THOUSAND.

SO FOR THIS FIRST YEAR, FOR THE MOST PART, IT IS GOING TO BE ABOUT A FIVE THOUSAND HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION FOR EACH OF THE RESIDENTS UNLESS THE PROPERTIES ARE OVER FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS. AND SO THAT'S THE WHOLE BASIS THERE.

SO ANYBODY BELOW THAT WILL ALWAYS BE ABLE TO GET UP TO FIVE THOUSAND THEN IT'LL START CALCULATING BASED UPON THAT PERCENTAGE.

THESE ARE AGAIN A SUMMARY OF ASSUMPTIONS THEY WERE USING FOR THE GENERAL FUND.

AGAIN, WE MENTIONED ABOUT THE GROWTH IN REGARDS TO 3 PERCENT.

WE TALKED ABOUT NEW CONSTRUCTION.

WE'RE GOING TO BE AT 15 PERCENT.

AND THEN AGAIN, GOING FORWARD, TWO PERCENT FOR TWENTY 3 TO TWENTY SIX SALES TAX GROWTH, WE'RE KEEPING IT AT 3 PERCENT GOING FORWARD AND THEN COMPENSATION, IT'S 3 AND A HALF CENTS FOR OUR EMPLOYEES.

TAX RATE WILL STAY CONSISTENT AT 0.6859 PER HUNDRED DOLLAR VALUE.

WE'RE ALSO INCLUDING IN OUR BUDGET OF SOME CASH FUNDING FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS.

AND THE WHOLE FOCUS OF THAT IS TO ALLOW TO REDUCE SOME OF THE POSSIBILITIES OF BOND ISSUES. AND SO AGAIN, WE HAVE ABOUT FOUR MILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF CASH FUNDING OVER A FIVE YEAR PERIOD AND HAVE A $500000 BUDGETARY COMPONENT FOR CASH FUNDING CAPITAL PROJECTS. AND THEN AGAIN, WE ALSO SHOW AS PART OF OUR CIP PLAN FOR OUR GENERAL GOVERNMENT, PRIMARILY STREETS AND DRAINAGE.

WE HAVE 6.9 MILLION FOR THE COMING YEAR OF POTENTIAL BOND SALE, BUT OVER A FIVE YEAR PERIOD WE DO HAVE APPROXIMATELY ABOUT 70 MILLION CURRENTLY THAT WE'RE SHOWING BEING PRESENTED. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ALSO BECAUSE WE DID NOT ISSUE BONDS THIS PARTICULAR FISCAL YEAR, WE FELT THAT WE HAD ENOUGH PROCEEDS TO ALLOW FOR ALLOCATIONS TO THE PROJECTS. BECAUSE OF THAT, WE WERE ABLE TO REDUCE THE BONDS PRINCIPAL OUTSTANDING BONDS BY ABOUT $12 BILLION.

SO WE DID NOT ISSUE BONDS FOR BOTH IN THE GENERAL GOVERNMENT OR THE GENERAL OPERATIONS, OR WE DIDN'T ISSUE BONDS FOR THE WATER AND SEWER.

WE DIDN'T ISSUE BONDS FOR THE PARKS CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.

WATER IS THE SECOND LARGEST FUND IN THE CITY'S OPERATIONS, AND AGAIN, ONE OF THE POINTS THAT WE'RE ASKING IS WE'RE NOT INCREASING ANY, WE'RE NOT PROPOSING ANY INCREASES IN RATES BOTH IN THE WATER AND THE SEWER.

NO BOND ISSUES ARE BEING PROPOSED FOR FISCAL YEAR TWENTY ONE NOW AS PART OF THE CIP PLAN.

THERE IS ABOUT TWENTY FIVE MILLION BEING PROPOSED IN THE JULY'S CAPITAL PROJECTS AND ABOUT TWENTY ONE MILLION IN SEWER PROJECTS.

AND AGAIN, ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT'S OUT THERE THAT WE'RE WATCHING IS THERE IS A $14 MILLION WATER PROJECT WITH THE FORT WORTH THAT IS COMING UP.

YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE SUFFICIENT FUNDS TO PAY THAT ONCE IT IS COMPLETED

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AND ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT WE'RE THINKING OF USING FOR AS PART OF THIS RESOURCES IS THE ARPA FUNDING. AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WORKING AT IN REGARDS TO WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THAT PARTICULAR SEWER LINE.

AGAIN, KIND OF GIVES YOU A COMPARISON OF THE FUNDS, THE KEY FUNDS.

AND AGAIN, WE ARE PROPOSING ABOUT 155 MILLION IN EXPENDITURES IN THIS PROPOSED BUDGET, BOTH OPERATING AND CAPITAL.

AND FOR TODAY, WE ARE, IN ESSENCE, IN YOUR AGENDA.

WE HAVE THESE FINAL ORDINANCES FOR THE FINAL READINGS AND I DO WANT TO STATE THAT ON THE SCHEDULE OF FEES THAT WE DID UPDATE THE NEEDED FEES AS WELL.

SO THAT IS AN UPDATED VERSION OF THE SCHEDULE OF FEES.

AND ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? THANK YOU FOR UPDATING THOSE FEES.

YOU BET. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THEM UP.

THANK YOU. ANYTHING? OK. MAYOR AND COUNCIL, WE DO HAVE ONE SPEAKER ON THIS ITEM, CATHERINE REDDING.

PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, FOR THE RECORD.

GOOD MORNING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL CATHERINE REDDING, 201 MEANDERING LANE.

THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION, MARTIN.

I THOUGHT THAT WAS AWESOME.

I SPOKE PREVIOUSLY AT THE TIF BOARD.

I DID NOT GO TO THE ORIGINAL PUBLIC HEARING, SO I UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE SORT OF IN A TIME CRUNCH AND WE'RE GOING TO BE APPROVING THE BUDGET.

THERE'S JUST SOME THINGS I WANTED TO SORT OF BRING TO THE SURFACE TO TALK ABOUT AND KEEP THESE THINGS IN MIND GOING FORWARD.

THE TIF IS SET TO FUND TWO POLICE OFFICERS IN AND OF ITSELF.

SO THERE'S A FEW THINGS THAT CONCERN ME ABOUT IT.

I UNDERSTAND THAT THE CITY MANAGER ALREADY SAID THAT HE COULD LEGALLY DEFEND IT AND I CAN ACCEPT THAT, AND THAT'S FINE, BUT KEEP THESE THINGS IN MIND.

THE TIF IS A TERRITORY DISTRICT, MEANING THAT EVERYTHING THAT IS SPENT INSIDE OF THAT TERRITORY IS SUPPOSED TO STAY IN THAT TERRITORY.

SO ACCORDING TO, YOU KNOW, THE CITY MANAGER AND AGAIN, BRYAN, I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THESE POLICE OFFICERS ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO GO IN AND OUT OF THAT TERRITORY.

THAT SORT OF PRESENTS A LITTLE BIT OF A PROBLEM BECAUSE THE TIF ITSELF IS GATHERED BY THE TAX RATE REVENUE OR THE INCREMENT OF THAT REVENUE IN THAT TIF.

SO USING THOSE RESOURCES WITHIN THAT TERRITORY OUTSIDE OF THAT TERRITORY COULD PRESENT A PROBLEM. HERE'S THE OTHER THING TO KEEP IN MIND AS FAR AS BUSINESS ADVANTAGE.

THE PEOPLE IN THE TERRITORY ONCE WE BEGIN TO FUND FULL TIME POLICE OFFICERS OUT OF THE TIF, PEOPLE IN THAT TERRITORY OR BUSINESSES IN THAT TERRITORY OR HOMEOWNERS IN THAT TERRITORY CAN THEN SAY, HEY, LISTEN, LOOK, OUR TERRITORY.

WE HAVE TWO FULL TIME POLICE OFFICERS TO OUR TERRITORY.

IT'S COMPLETELY DESIGNATED WHAT OTHER DEVELOPMENT IS ABLE TO HAVE THAT? WHAT OTHER DEVELOPMENT CAN SAY THAT NOW IT MAKES A DIFFERENCE, RIGHT? LIKE IF WE HAVE THE INCREASED PRESENCE THERE WHICH WE COULD OR IF WE HAVE TO PUT THEM ON BICYCLES, IF WE NEED TO PUT THEM IN TOTALLY MAKE SENSE, THEN WE CAN FUND THE POLICE OFFICERS, GIVE THEM THE EQUIPMENT AND THEY CAN INCREASE A PRESENCE IN THAT TERRITORY.

THAT WOULD BE A RESPONSE TO THE BEHAVIOR THAT'S ORGANIC AND THAT MAKES SENSE.

BUT WHEN WE'RE DESIGNATING OR WE'RE PUTTING IT ON PAPER OR ON POLICY AND WE'RE SEEING THIS TERRITORY IS GETTING TWO FULL TIME POLICE OFFICERS THAT CAN PRESENT A DISADVANTAGE TO THE OTHER DEVELOPMENTS, TO THE OTHER BUSINESS OWNERS WHO CAN'T SAY THAT.

THEY CAN'T SAY, I HAVE TWO FULL TIME POLICE OFFICERS IN THIS AREA IN THIS TERRITORY.

SO THAT'S THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK WE REALLY NEED TO KEEP IN MIND WHEN WE'RE USING LIKE TIF FUNDS OR TERRITORY FUNDS AND NOT USING THE GENERAL FUNDS BECAUSE I THINK THAT WE CAN ACCOMPLISH EVERYTHING THAT WE WANT TO ACCOMPLISH BY HEIGHTENING THE PRESENCE THAT WE NEED TO IN AREAS THAT WE NEED TO.

WE CAN ACCOMPLISH THAT THROUGH THE GENERAL FUND.

BUT WHAT IT APPEARS, AND I KNOW THAT THISN'T THE CASE, IT APPEARS TO BE ROBBING PETER TO PAY PAUL. WE'RE TAKING FROM THE TIF FUND.

THAT'S A TERRITORY AND EVERYTHING THAT'S SPENT THERE SHOULD TAKE THERE, SHOULD STAY THERE, AND WE'RE TAKING THOSE FUNDS AND WE'RE USING THEM INTERCHANGEABLY.

WHICH ALSO BRINGS LIKE A PRAGMATIC QUESTION, RIGHT? DO THE POLICE OFFICERS GET OVERTIME? IF THEY HAVE TO WORK IN BOTH TERRITORIES AND THEY'RE FUNDED IF THEY GO FROM ONE TERRITORY TO ANOTHER? ARE WE ENSURING THAT THEIR OVERTIME HOURS ACCRUED CAN BE ACCOUNTED FOR? SO IT'S MORE THE POLICY LANGUAGE THAT WE NEED TO KEEP IN MIND.

WE NEED TO KEEP IN MIND THAT WE SET PRECEDENTS WITH THESE THINGS, RIGHT? LIKE WHEN WE START FUNDING GENERAL FUND ITEMS THROUGH DIFFERENT FUNDS, WE'RE SORT OF JUST TAKING THAT OPERATIONAL COST AND PUTTING IT IN A TIF WHEN WE CAN ACCOMPLISH THE SAME THING BY JUST PUTTING THE FUNDS IN THE GENERAL FUND.

SO THAT'S SORT OF PRIMARILY THE ISSUE THAT I HAVE WITH THE TIF AND THE TIF FUNDING.

I UNDERSTAND IT CAN BE DEFENDED.

I BELIEVE YOU. I TRUST YOU.

I TRUST THE STAFF. I DO.

I PROMISED BRYAN. I DO, BUT I DO THINK THAT GOING FORWARD, THESE ARE THE KIND OF QUESTIONS AND THE THINGS THAT WE REALLY NEED TO START ASKING BECAUSE WE'RE REALLY IF I'M A BUSINESS OWNER OUTSIDE OF THE TIF, I CAN'T PUT ON MY BROCHURE OR COME, AT LEAST WITH ME. I CAN'T PUT, HEY, WE HAVE TWO POLICE OFFICERS.

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YOU ALREADY HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE THAT ARE UPSET WITH THE AMOUNT OF MONEY AND CONCENTRATION IN OLD TOWN. THIS SORT OF BRINGING THAT BACK UP.

AND WE DON'T NEED TO.

WHY? WHAT? WHAT'S THE POINT? WHY CAN'T WE JUST FUND THE GENERAL FUND, INCREASE THE PRESENCE, GIVEN THE EQUIPMENT, GIVEN THE BICYCLES, WE CAN ACCOMPLISH ALL OF THAT WITHOUT TAKING FROM THE TIF.

THE OTHER THING TOO IS ARE WE GOING TO BE PAYING EXTRA INTEREST ON THIS IF WE'RE ISSUING BONDS SO WE COULD BE PAYING CASH OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND? BUT ARE WE GOING TO BE PAYING INTEREST ON TWO DESIGNATED POLICE OFFICERS IN THE TIF, TOO? SO IN THE LONG RUN, ARE WE INCURRING MORE COSTS THAT IN THE END, WE ALREADY ESTABLISH? AT THE END OF THE MEETING, WE WERE GOING TO HAVE TO ABSORB THOSE INTO THE GENERAL FUND.

SO SOMEWHERE, SOMEWHERE DOWN THE LINE, THE TAXES ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BE INCREASED BY HALF A CENT DOESN'T MATTER.

IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO BE ABSORBED INTO THE GENERAL FUND.

SO THAT MAKES SENSE. ALL RIGHT.

SECOND THING THAT WAS GOING TO ALSO TO AGAIN, THIS I UNDERSTAND YOU CAN'T TAKE A WHOLE LOT OF ACTION. YOUR TIME CRUNCH JUST IS JUST ME GOING THROUGH THE BUDGET.

THE OTHER THING IS THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION.

I LOVE THE HOME. SAID EXEMPTION, I DO, BUT I WANT TO ALSO BRING THIS TO MIND, I THINK TH IS IMPORTANT, ESPECIALLY SINCE WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT SUPPORTING SMALL BUSINESSES.

THIS THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION AT ONE PERCENT CONTINUE TO INCREASE.

THE ONE THING WE HAVE A LOT OF BUSINESS OWNERS THAT WORK HERE, THEY BUILD HERE, THEY INVEST MILLIONS OF DOLLARS HERE AND THEY PAY THE TAX RATE HERE, BUT THEY DON'T GET TO VOTE OR PARTICIPATE IN ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

BUT ONE OF THE THING WE CAN DO IS HAVE A TAX RATE REDUCTION ACROSS THE BOARD.

WHEN YOU DO A HOMESTEAD REDUCTION AND ONLY ON HOMEOWNERS, YOU ARE PROHIBITING THE ABILITY OF US TO BE ABLE TO LOWER THE TAX RATE ACROSS THE ENTIRE BOARD.

SO WE'RE ONLY DOING IT FOR HOMEOWNERS.

BUT FOR THOSE WHO BUILD AND BURLESON WORK AND BURLESON HAVE SMALL BUSINESSES AND BURLESON, IT'S GOING TO PROHIBIT US FROM BEING ABLE TO GIVE THEM A TAX RATE REDUCTION AT THE SAME TIME.

SO IF WE'RE JUST CUTTING IT HERE, I MEAN, WHAT? ONE PERCENT IT WAS LIKE, YOU HAD A SUMMARY OF SLIDE THAT WAS SLIDE SIX AND THEN HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION. I BELIEVE WITH SIDE SLIDE SIX WAS A SUMMARY OF THE ASSUMPTIONS.

YEAH. SO AT ONE PERCENT, SO ONE PERCENT, LET'S SAY WE HAVE TEN THOUSAND RESIDENTIAL HOMES, RIGHT? SO AT ONE PERCENT, TEN THOUSAND THIRTY FOUR 3, IT'S ABOUT THE THIRD, WHAT 3 HUNDRED FORTY THOUSAND WAS IT 3, SIXTY FOUR? A PENNY RIGHT REDUCTION.

IT'S APPROXIMATELY ABOUT ABOUT TWO HUNDRED AND TWENTY FIVE TO TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND. FOR A PENNY? FOR A PENNY, ABOUT TWO HUNDRED AND SEVENTY FIVE.

OK. SO THERE IS SORT OF MY ISSUE.

WE ARE GIVING THIS ONE PERCENT TO THE HOMEOWNERS, BUT WE COULD BE CUTTING AN ENTIRE PENNY ACROSS THE BOARD FOR NOT ONLY HOMEOWNERS, BUT ALSO FOR BUSINESS OWNERS.

SO THOSE SORT OF UNEQUAL THINGS ARE JUST THINGS TO KIND OF KEEP IN MIND WITH THE HOMESTEAD STUFF.

NOT THAT I DISAGREE WITH IT.

IT'S SOMETHING WE TALKED ABOUT AT LENGTH.

AND IDEALLY, THE IDEA WAS IF WE'RE GOING TO LOWER THE TAX RATE OR IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT, WE WANT TO DO IT FOR BUSINESS AND HOMEOWNER EQUALLY, ESPECIALLY FOR THOSE WHO HAVE SMALL BUSINESS HERE, AND THEY CAN USE ALL THE TAX RATE ADVANTAGES ALSO.

ONE MORE QUESTION I HAVE I'M ALMOST DONE, I PROMISE.

I SWEAR I'M ALMOST DONE.

I KNOW. LISTEN, Y'ALL, I DON'T WANT TO BE HERE ANY MORE THAN SOME OF Y'ALL WANT TO SEE ME. MARTIN SLIDE STICKS FOR THE SUMMARY OF ASSUMPTIONS.

IS THAT A 3 PERCENT? THAT'S JUST CONSERVATIVE RATE REDUCTIONS, RIGHT? THAT IS CORRECT. OK, SO VERY POSSIBLE THEY CAN.

IT CAN VARY BECAUSE I WOULD I WOULD ASSUME THAT WE DON'T WANT TO ASSUME THAT TAX RATE IS GOING TO STAY STAGNANT AT SIX EIGHT FIVE NINE, RIGHT? OK, THAT'S IT.

THAT WAS ALL THAT I HAD THIS.

I KNOW IT SOUNDS LIKE A MOUTHFUL.

IT'S JUST STUFF TO KEEP IN MIND GOING FORWARD.

IT'S QUESTIONS THAT I WOULD ASK.

IT'S QUESTIONS I HAVE ASKED IN THE PAST.

I THINK THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO KEEP IN MIND WITH FUNDING THINGS, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T WANT TO GET YOURSELF CAUGHT IN ANY SORT OF PROBLEM IF YOU CAN AVOID IT, IF WE HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, AND MAYOR, I KNOW YOU AND I DIDN'T SEE EYE TO EYE ON EVERYTHING, YOU KNOW, BUT ONE THING WE TALKED ABOUT WAS PUBLIC SAFETY AND HOW IMPORTANT THAT WAS.

AND THERE'S GOING TO COME A TIME WHERE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GIVE HALF A CENT, WHAT IF THEY NEED A FULL PENNY? YOU KNOW, I WANT TO KNOW THAT WE'RE NOT.

WE'RE TAKING THOSE COSTS SERIOUSLY AND THAT IF THEY NEED THAT, WE'RE GOING TO FUND IT.

AND IF WE HAVE TO DO IT THROUGH THE GENERAL FUND, THEN WE HAVE TO DO THROUGH THE GENERAL FUND. AND IF PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GET MAD BECAUSE WE CAN'T REDUCE THE TAX RATE AS MUCH AS WE NEED TO, BECAUSE WE NEED TO FUND POLICE OFFICERS AND FIREFIGHTERS AND THEY'RE GOING TO THEN LET THEM GET MAD.

BUT WE NEED TO IF WE'RE GOING TO SHOW OUR SUPPORT FOR PUBLIC SAFETY, SOMETIMES THAT MEANS THAT WE CAN'T LOWER THE TAX RATE AS MUCH.

THAT'S THE WAY IT WORKS.

WE CAN'T INCREASE COSTS AND LOWER REVENUE AT THE SAME TIME, LIKE IT'S MATHEMATICALLY NOT POSSIBLE. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU KNOW THAT I'VE ALWAYS RESPECTED YOUR OPINION. YES, SIR. YES, SIR.

WE MIGHT GET CROSSWISE ON SOME STUFF, BUT I'VE ALWAYS RESPECTED IT.

YES, SIR. AND WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE IS THE FACT THAT BRYAN AND MARTIN HAS LOOKED AT THOSE ISSUES THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

IT'S A LONG TERM WAY AND THEY'RE DOING A GREAT JOB.

WE'RE PUTTING A LOT OF PRESSURE ON THE WHOLE COUNCIL IS TO GET THIS DONE, BUT I REALLY APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AS FAR AS THE TELL FROM THE POLICE.

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WE REALLY DO. NO DOUBT, NO DOUBT.

WE NEED A BETTER PRESENT, ACCORDING TO CORDELL, WOULD HELP US OUT.

SO TO ME, I THINK THAT'S BEING FUNDED CORRECTLY.

BUT I WELCOME YOU BACK ANY TIME YOU WANT TO COME.

OK, KEEP IT STRAIGHT.

OK, CAPTAIN. YEAH, NO, NO, ABSOLUTELY.

AND I AGREE WITH YOU.

I THINK THAT THIS MORE THE FUNDING MECHANISM AND NOT THE VISION ITSELF.

I TRUST CHIEF CORDELL TO PUT IT, I TRUST BRYAN.

I TRUSTEE YOU GUYS SAY YOU CAN LEGALLY DEFEND IT, AND THAT'S FINE.

I THINK THAT ULTIMATELY THIS COMES DOWN TO SORT OF HOW SOMETHING IS FUNDED, AND I THINK THAT THE CHIEF GIVE THEM ALL THE RESOURCES HE NEEDS AND HE'LL BE ABLE TO DO WHATEVER IT IS THAT HE NEEDS TO DO.

AND WE DON'T NEED TO PUT FUNDS.

WE DON'T NEED A ROB PETER TO PAY PAUL FOR ANYTHING.

WE CAN JUST TAKE IT STRAIGHT OUT OF THE GENERAL AND DO IT, ACCOMPLISH IT.

BUT THAT SAID, I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND RESPECT THE WILL OF THE COUNCIL, SO I JUST WANTED TO COME IN AND GIVE MY THOUGHTS.

I GOT TO GO CLEAN A POOL AND TAKE A KID TO A FIELD TRIP.

I DO WANT TO MAKE IT.

I DO WANT TO MAKE A CORRECTION ON THE AVERAGE.

OF A ONE CENT IS ABOUT $400000, OK? AND THEN SO HALF A SENSE, ABOUT TWO HUNDRED AND THE ACTUAL IMPACT RIGHT NOW THAT WE'RE THINKING ABOUT FROM THE STANDPOINT OF THE ONE PERCENT IS ABOUT 225.

MAKES SENSE. YEAH. SO THAT'S YEAH, I THINK THAT MAKES SENSE AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT HE'S SAYING WITH THE HALF CENT TO THE HOMESTEAD.

MY POINT IS THAT YOU CAN CUT THE TAX RATE EVENLY FOR HOMEOWNERS AND FOR BUSINESS OWNERS HERE AT A GOOD RATE, AND THIS WILL SLOW THAT DOWN.

IT'S JUST A MATTER OF MATHEMATICS, RIGHT? WE'RE GOING TO BE COLLECTING LESS REVENUE AND CAN'T GIVE A TAX RATE TO SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS, WHICH I THINK IS IMPORTANT.

I THINK THAT THEY DESERVE THAT AS WELL.

NO DIFFERENTLY. COOL.

ALL RIGHT. THANKS, Y'ALL.

I'D LIKE TO ASK A QUESTION BECAUSE IT'S IN RESPONSE, NOT OF YOU, CATHERINE, YOU CAN HAVE A SEAT NOW. THANK YOU.

I HAD ANSWERED A CONSTITUENT'S QUESTION OVER THE WEEKEND ABOUT THE COST OF THE POLICE OFFICERS IN THE TIF DISTRICT, AND MY REPLY WAS THAT AS FAR AS I KNEW, THERE WAS NO INTENTION OF KEEPING A SEPARATE RECORD OF THE TIME THAT THEY SPEND.

BUT I SPOKE WITH CHIEF CORDELL SATURDAY EVENING AND HE TOLD ME THAT THERE IS IN FACT, A PLAN THAT THESE OFFICERS WILL BE BILLED TO THE TIF FOR THE TIME THEY WERE IN THE TIF AREA. AND I'D LIKE TO KNOW A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE NITTY GRITTY OF THAT BECAUSE WE'RE FUNDING TWO NEW OFFICERS, BUT WE'VE ALWAYS PROVIDED POLICE SERVICES FOR THE OLD TOWN TO WHICH IS ACTUALLY A QUITE LARGE AREA.

IT'S A BIG, A BIG AREA THAT PROBABLY INCLUDES A WHOLE LOT MORE TERRITORY THAN MOST PEOPLE REALIZE. HOW ARE WE DETERMINING THE USE OR AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER MY QUESTION IN DETAIL, BUT JUST WHAT'S THE GENERAL IDEA OR WE'RE FUNDING TO ADDITIONAL OFFICERS? ARE WE GOING TO USE SOME OF THAT ASSET OUTSIDE THE TIF DISTRICT? AND WHEN WE DO, WE'RE GOING TO KEEP SEPARATE COSTS? NO, I APPRECIATE THE QUESTION.

I THINK FOR THE OVERTIME IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT TRACKING SEPARATELY.

BUT FOR ALL OF THIS, THE GENERAL TIME, THE FULL TIME COST THAT WOULD BE ABSORBED BY THE TIF, BUT ANY HOURS IN ADDITION TO THAT, IF THEY WERE WORKING OUTSIDE THE TIF BOUNDARIES, IF THERE WAS SOME SPECIAL ASSIGNMENT, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT WOULD BE BILLED DIFFERENTLY. BUT I DID WANT TO KIND OF ADDRESS JUST IN GENERAL HOW POLICE SERVICES AND PUBLIC SAFETY IS FUNDED IN THE TIF.

YOU KNOW, THERE'S AN ARGUMENT THAT CAN BE MADE THAT EVEN WITHOUT THESE TWO OFFICERS BEING ADDED, THAT THE TIF SHOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR SOME OF ITS COSTS THAT THE GENERAL FUND IS PROVIDING IN PUBLIC SAFETY COSTS THERE, YOU COULD MAKE A TRANSFER, BUT THIS DEDICATING.

THIS ENHANCING THAT PUBLIC SAFETY IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA AND DEDICATING THOSE TWO OFFICERS.

THAT'S THERE, BUT THAT'S IN GENERAL HOW IT WOULD HOW WOULD IT BE OCCURRING? YEAH, I TOTALLY AGREE WITH THETHEORY BEHIND THAT.

YOU KNOW, ALL OF THIS HAS PAID OUT OF PROPERTY TAXES, WHETHER IT'S COMING OUT OF THE TIFF OR WHETHER IT'S COMING OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND, IT'S STILL PROPERTY TAXES PAYING FOR IT. THE TIF IS BASED ON INCREASED PROPERTY VALUE AS A RESULT OF DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE TIF, WHICH PAYS INTO THE END OF THE TIF BUDGET.

SO YOU CAN MAKE A GOOD ARGUMENT THAT INCREASED ACTIVITY THAT RESULTED IN INCREASED TAX BASE HAS ALSO RESULTED IN THE INCREASED NEED FOR POLICE PROTECTION.

SO IN ALL WAYS, I THINK IT'S AN EQUITABLE WAY TO ACCOUNT FOR CITY EXPENDITURES IN THE TIF AREA. AND I THINK THE BUSINESS OWNERS AND HOMEOWNERS IN THE TIF ARE PROBABLY AWARE THAT A SET ASIDE ITEM FOR THEIR AREA.

BUT I THINK MOST PEOPLE OUTSIDE THE TIF AREN'T AWARE OF JUST HOW BIG THAT AREA REALLY IS.

I WENT LOOKING AT THE CITY'S WEBSITE TO TRY TO FIND THE BOUNDARIES OF THE TIF.

I WASN'T ABLE TO. I FOUND THE BOUNDARIES OF THE ADDITION TO THE TIF THAT WAS MADE BACK IN 2016 WHEN WE EXPANDED IT.

BUT IT WOULD BE NICE IF PEOPLE COULD EASILY DETERMINE JUST WHAT AREA THAT IS BECAUSE I

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YEAH, WE'LL BE GLAD TO PUT THAT ON THE WEBSITE.

I'M NOT SURE WHERE THAT'S LOCATED, BUT WE'LL FIND IT THERE.

ME EITHER. I'M NOT THE MOST SKILLED AT TRYING TO FIND THINGS, BUT I WAS ABLE TO FIND AN ACTION BACK IN 2016 WHERE WE EXPANDED THE TIF AND THE COUNCIL AGENDA PACKET FOR THAT MEETING SHOWED THE BOUNDARIES THAT WERE BEING ADDED.

BUT THE ORIGINAL TIF WAS SET UP IN 2006 BEFORE WE WERE SO TECHNOLOGICALLY ADVANCED WITH OUR WEBSITE. SO THAT MAP WAS NOT AVAILABLE ANYWHERE THAT I COULD FIND.

BUT I BET THE CITY SECRETARY KNOWS EXACTLY WHERE IT IS.

ALL RIGHT, THAT'S ALL I HAD.

I DID WANT TO SAY, TOO.

ON THE, AS YOU MENTIONED, THESE ARE ALL PROPERTY TAXES GOING IN TO EITHER WHERE THE TIF OR THE GENERAL FUND, FROM A FINANCIAL PERSPECTIVE, THE REVENUES THAT ARE GOING INTO THE TIF WILL WHEN THE TIF EXPIRES.

I THINK I MAY HAVE MENTIONED THIS LAST TIME, WHEN THE TIF EXPIRES, THEN THOSE REVENUES WILL SIMPLY JUST BE TRANSFERRED OVER INTO THE GENERAL FUND.

SO FROM A LONG TERM COST PERSPECTIVE, THEY WILL ALL CONSOLIDATE IN JUST TO ONE FUND.

BUT IT WILL BE THE SAME REVENUES AND SAME EXPENSES.

HOPEFULLY, THAT CLARIFIES A LITTLE BIT [INAUDIBLE] THINK THROUGH THE HOW BOTH THE TIF AND THE GENERAL FUND WORKS.

THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE ANY KIND OF TAX RATE INCREASE THAT'S GOING TO HAVE TO HAPPEN IN 2041 OR SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE.

THOSE REVENUES WILL JUST COME OVER INTO THE GENERAL FUND AND PAY FOR THAT SERVICE.

2037.

'37? THINK IT'S 2041.

IT'S A LONG TIME OUT.

I HEARD 2041, IT IS 2041.

HOPEFULLY--SORRY, TAKING A PHONE CALL. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? OK, IF THERE ARE NONE, THEN WE WILL START WITH THE MOTIONS TO APPROVE THESE ITEMS. SO THE FIRST MOTION WILL BE ON 2A, WHICH IS THE FINAL READING OF ORDINANCE APPROVING AND ADOPTING THE BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 2021-2022.

MAYOR, IF YOU COULD CALL FOR A MOTION.

IS THERE A MOTION? MOVE TO APPROVE. SECOND.

WE HAVE A MOTION BY TAMARA, SECOND BY RICK.

ALL IN FAVOR? OK. ITEM 2B [INAUDIBLE] RIGHT? GOOD. CAN'T COUNT THERE.

OK. ITEM 2B, CONSIDER.

GO AHEAD. DID YOU WANT TO WAIT FOR? DO WE NEED TO? HERE WE GO.

GO AHEAD. 2B IS CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A MINUTE ORDER RATIFYING THE ADOPTION OF THE FISCAL YEAR 2021-2022 ANNUAL OPERATING BUDGET.

IS THERE A MOTION? MOVE TO APPROVE.

SECOND. WHO WAS THE FIRST? OK. MOTION BY TAMARA, SECOND BY RICK.

ALL IN FAVOR? MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUS.

ITEM 2C IS THE FINAL READING OF THE ORDINANCE, LEVYING THE AD VALOREM PROPERTY TAXES FOR THE CITY OF BURLESON FOR FISCAL YEAR 2021.

IS THERE A MOTION? MOVE TO APPROVE.

SECOND.

[CHUCKLING] 'TAMARA AND RICK SHOW' I GOT A MOTION BY RICK AND SECOND BY TAMARA.

ALL IN FAVOR? PASSES UNANIMOUS.

2D IS THE FINAL READING OF THE ORDINANCE APPROVING THE 2021 TAX ROLLS.

IS THERE A MOTION? MOVE TO APPROVE.

SECOND. [INAUDIBLE].

WE GOT A MOTION BY RICK, SECOND BY RONNIE.

YOU ALL ARE GOING TO HAVE TO HOLD YOUR HANDS UP OR SOMETHING.

ALL IN FAVOR? PASSES UNANIMOUS.

ITEM 2E IS ALSO A FINAL READING OF AN ORDINANCE PROVIDING A FISCAL YEAR.

2021-2022 SCHEDULE OF FEES.

IS THERE A MOTION? MOVE TO APPROVE.

SECOND. MOTION BY RONNIE, SECOND BY DAN.

ALL IN FAVOR. UNANIMOUS.

2F IS THE FINAL READING OF AN ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING FISCAL YEAR 2021-22 RATES FOR WATER AND WASTEWATER SERVICES.

IS THERE A MOTION? MOVE TO APPROVE.

MOTION BY VICTORIA, A SECOND BY TAMARA, ALL IN FAVOR.

PASSES UNANIMOUS. 2G IS ALSO THE FINAL READING OF AN ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING FISCAL YEAR 2021-2022 RATES FOR COLLECTION AND DISPOSAL, DISPOSAL OF RESIDENTIAL AND NONRESIDENTIAL SOLID WASTE RECYCLABLES AND TRASH.

IS THERE A MOTION? MOVED.

SECOND. MOTION BY DAN, SECOND BY RICK.

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ITEM 2H IS ALSO THE FINAL READING OF AN ORDINANCE PROVIDING FOR RESIDENTIAL HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION FROM THE AD VALOREM PROPERTY TAXES FOR A TAX YEAR 2022 AND ALL FUTURE YEARS.

IS THERE A MOTION? SECOND? I GOT A MOTION BY DAN, SECOND BY VICTORIA, ALL IN FAVOR? PASSES UNANIMOUS.

MAYOR AND COUNCIL. THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM 2I.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

I JUST WANTED TO TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK MARTIN AND JOHN, THE ENTIRE STAFF FOR ALL THEIR WORK. IT'S ALWAYS ANTICLIMACTIC TO GET TO THE END AND APPROVE THE BUDGET, BUT THEY'VE DONE A LOT OF HARD WORK THERE AND THE COUNCIL HAS DONE A LOT OF WORK ON THAT AS WELL.

SO I APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S HELP ON THAT.

THANK YOU, GUYS. THANK YOU.

SO ITEM 2I CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION ADOPTING THE CITY OF BURLESON FISCAL YEAR 2021 2022 STRATEGIC PLAN.

I'M NOT SURE, ARE YOU THE PRESENTER? NO.

[CHUCKLING] DEFINITELY NOT. STAFF PRESENTER, MARK [INAUDIBLE] STAFF PRESENTER, CITY MANAGER, BRYAN LANGLEY, MR. LANGLEY. SO MAYOR, COUNCIL DEANNA IS NOT ABLE TO JOIN US FOR THE MEETING THIS MORNING, BUT I DID HAVE BEFORE YOU THE STRATEGIC PLAN.

I'M NOT PLANNING TO GO THROUGH THE PRESENTATION UNLESS YOU HAVE QUESTIONS.

IT'S 30 SLIDES. I'LL BE HAPPY TO GO THROUGH EACH SLIDE IN DETAIL IF YOU'D LIKE, BUT A LOT OF THIS VERY SIMILAR.

IN FACT, IT'S EXACTLY THE SAME PLAN THAT YOU SAW BACK IN JULY.

WHAT WE'VE ADDED, IS ALL OF THE WORK PLAN TASKS THAT HAVE BEEN ADDED TO THIS AND THESE ARE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT YOU'VE BEEN SEEING IN THE BUDGET.

SO UNLESS THERE'S QUESTIONS ON THIS, I'D ASK THAT YOU CONSIDER IT FOR APPROVAL, BUT I'D BE HAPPY TO GO THROUGH ANY ITEMS THAT YOU HAD IN MORE DETAIL.

WAS THERE ANY CONCERN, COUNCIL? RONNIE, YOU GOOD WITH IT? WE'RE READY FOR A MOTION? YES, SIR. IS THERE A MOTION ON THIS? MOVE TO APPROVE. SECOND, I'VE GOT A MOTION BY RONNIE, A SECOND BY RICK, ALL IN FAVOR.

UNANIMOUS. MAYOR AND COUNCIL THAT BRINGS US TO SECTION 3 REPORTS AND PRESENTATIONS.

[A. Receive a report and hold a discussion regarding Council Policy 17 procedures. (Staff Presenter: Matt Ribitzki, Deputy City Attorney)]

THE STAFF PRESENTER THIS MORNING IS MATT RIBITZKI, OUR DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY, MR. RIBITZKI.

ALL RIGHT. GOOD MORNING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, MATT RIBITZKI, DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY.

IT'S MONDAY MORNING. IT'S TIME TO GO OVER RULES AND PROCEDURES.

ARE YOU ALL EXCITED, RIGHT? COME ON! JUST BRIEFLY, JUST GOING TO DO AN OVERVIEW OF COUNCIL POLICY 17.

I KNOW WE HAVE A LOT OF COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO HAVE SERVED FOR A LONG TIME AND ARE VERY FAMILIAR WITH COUNCIL POLICY 17.

AND WE HAVE SOME THAT HAVEN'T SERVED AS LONG AND MAYBE NOT AS FAMILIAR WITH IT.

AND SO REALLY, MY GOAL AND PURPOSE FOR TODAY'S PRESENTATION IS TO GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW OF THE RULES AND PROCEDURES IN CP 17.

BUT OF COURSE, IF YOU EVER HAVE ANY QUESTIONS YOU CAN ALWAYS FEEL FREE TO CONTACT ME.

OK? SECTION 34 OF THE CITY CHARTER STATES THAT THE CITY COUNCIL WILL SET FORTH ITS OWN RULES AND ORDER OF BUSINESS, AND THAT'S WHAT COUNCIL POLICY 17 DOES.

IT'S ESSENTIALLY AN INTERNAL DOCUMENT OF THE COUNCIL THAT SETS FORTH ITS RULES AND ORDER OF BUSINESS. OF COURSE, IT'S SUBJECT TO LIMITATIONS AND CP17, YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T OVERRULE STATE LAW.

WE ALWAYS HAVE TO KEEP THE CITY CHARTER IN MIND AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

BUT ESSENTIALLY YOUR OWN INTERNAL OPERATING PROCEDURES ON HOW YOU'RE GOING TO CONDUCT BUSINESS AS A GROUP.

OVERALL, COUNCIL POLICY 17 COVERS FOUR THINGS IT COVERS MEETING AGENDAS AND HOW THOSE ARE GOING TO LOOK. IT COVERS THE PROCEDURES AND CONDUCT.

AS FAR AS HOW YOU CONDUCT YOUR MEETINGS, IT CONCERNS YOUR THIRDLY, YOUR ORDER OF BUSINESS, OF WHAT SPECIFICALLY YOU'RE GOING TO COVER.

AND THEN LAST, IT DISCUSSES THE MAYOR PRO TEM POSITION.

SO IT COVERS AGENDAS.

IT COVERS RULES AND CONDUCT DURING THE MEETING.

ESSENTIALLY, YOUR ORDER OF BUSINESS AND THE MAYOR PRO TEM POSITION.

SO LET'S START AT THE TOP.

LET'S TALK ABOUT MEETING AGENDAS AND AGENDA PREPARATION.

IT'S VERY SIMPLE, AND LET ME JUST STEP BACK FOR A SECOND.

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YOU CAN HAVE A BYZANTINE SET OF RULES ABOUT HOW THINGS GET DONE, WHERE YOU ALMOST NEED A LAW DEGREE JUST TO SORT THROUGH HOW TO DO THINGS, HOW TO TRANSACT BUSINESS.

THE GREAT THING ABOUT COUNCIL POLICY 17 IS IT REALLY DOES TRY TO STREAMLINE THE WHOLE EFFORT. IT TRIES TO SIMPLIFY THE EFFORT, WHETHER IT'S YOUR MEETING AGENDAS, WHETHER IT'S HOW YOU CONDUCT BUSINESS.

IT REALLY ISN'T EASY TO READ POLICY.

IT'S ONLY ABOUT 10 PAGES, BUT IT'S FAIRLY STRAIGHTFORWARD, AND IT'S MEANT TO BE A READABLE, EASY TO USE DOCUMENT.

AND I THINK SINCE IT'S BEEN PUT IN PLACE, IT'S SERVED THE CITY WELL.

BUT LET'S LOOK AT AGENDA PREPARATION.

ESSENTIALLY, WHAT IT SAYS THERE IS CITY MANAGER IS IN CHARGE OF THE AGENDA PUTTING IT TOGETHER, AND YOUR CITY SECRETARY IS IN CHARGE OF DISTRIBUTING AND POSTING THE AGENDA AS FAR AS PLACING ITEMS ON THE AGENDA.

THERE ARE TWO WAYS THAT COUNCIL MEMBERS CAN PLACE ITEMS ON AN AGENDA.

AS YOU ALL ALREADY KNOW AT EVERY REGULAR MEETING, THERE'S A SECTION THAT SAYS, FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. EACH OF YOU COULD SPEAK UP AND STATE THAT YOU WANT AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA DURING THAT SECTION OF THE MEETING.

SO THAT'S ONE WAY. SECOND WAY IS YOU CAN PUT YOUR REQUEST IN WRITING, DELIVER IT TO THE CITY MANAGER AT LEAST 10 DAYS BEFORE THE MEETING AT WHICH YOU WANT IT DISCUSSED.

AND THAT'S THE SECOND WAY YOU CAN GET A MEETING AGENDA ITEM ON THE AGENDA.

NOW, LET ME JUST LET ME STOP AND GET OFF SCRIPT AGAIN.

YOU ALL DO THIS STUFF ALL SORTS, ALL THE TIME.

ALL SORTS OF THIS STUFF IS DONE ALL THE TIME.

AND SO IT'S NOT TO SAY WE'RE DOING ANYTHING WRONG, RIGHT? CP17 IS THE WAY THINGS ARE SUPPOSED TO WORK, AND THOSE THINGS REALLY COME UP WHEN WE KIND OF HIT A BUMP IN THE ROAD AND WE NEED DIRECTION ON HOW TO MOVE FORWARD.

THAT'S WHEN COUNCIL POLICY 17 COMES INTO PLAY.

BUT A LOT OF THESE THINGS YOU DO ALL THE TIME.

IF YOU ASK BRYAN TO PUT SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA, TYPICALLY THAT WORKS RIGHT AND YOU CAN JUST ASK HIM, AND HE'LL PUT IT ON THERE FOR YOU MOST OF THE TIME.

BUT IF WE HAVE TO LOOK, IF WE HAVE A DISPUTE, WE HAVE A SITUATION WHERE WE REALLY NEED OUR POLICY TO GUIDE US, GIVEN A SITUATION WE MAY BE IN, THAT'S WHEN WE REALLY LOOK TO OUR POLICY. THAT MAKES SENSE? ALL RIGHT. AGENDA ITEM PAGES, COUNCIL POLICY 17 STATES THAT REALLY, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A DEPARTMENT MEMO.

THE DEPARTMENT MEMO IS GOING TO STATE THE NAME OF THE PROPONENT OF THE ORDINANCE, IF THERE IS ANY. THAT'S PRETTY RARE, BUT THAT DOES HAPPEN SOMETIMES WHERE A COUNCIL MEMBER OR ONE, A SPECIFIC ORDINANCE, AND WE'LL HAVE A COUNCIL MEMBERS NAME LISTED THERE AS THE PROPONENT. IT'S HAPPENED A FEW TIMES OVER THE YEARS, BUT DOESN'T HAPPEN VERY OFTEN.

THE DEPARTMENT MEMO IS GOING TO LIST THE ACTION REQUESTED OF THE COUNCIL.

IT'S GOING TO LIST ANY INPUT FROM CITIZENS OR BOARDS OR COMMISSIONS.

IT'S ALSO GOING TO LIST THE FINANCIAL IMPACT OR SOURCE OF FUNDS, AND IT'S GOING TO HAVE A STAFF CONTACT INFORMATION.

THIS STUFF HAPPENS LIKE CLOCKWORK.

IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR DEPARTMENT MEMO, IF YOU WONDER WHY THE DEPARTMENT MEMO IS ORGANIZED THE WAY IT IS, IT'S BECAUSE OF YOUR COUNCIL POLICY.

CP17 KIND OF GIVES US A STRUCTURE OF OUR DEPARTMENT MEMOS.

ON CONSENT AGENDA.

WE ALL KNOW THE CONSENT AGENDA.

YOU ALL HAVE APPROVED MANY, BUT ESSENTIALLY COUNCIL POLICY 17 STATES THAT WE CAN HAVE THAT CONSENT AGENDA AND ALL THE ITEMS THERE COULD BE APPROVED IN ONE MOTION.

THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT CANNOT BE PLACED ON THE CONSENT AGENDA IN ACCORDANCE WITH THIS CP17.

ORDINANCES ON FIRST READING CANNOT BE PLACED ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

ELECTION ITEMS CAN'T BE PLACED ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

ISSUANCE OF DEBT CANNOT BE PLACED ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, AND NEITHER CAN CONTRACTS OVER $200000. OTHER THAN THAT, THINGS GO ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, WHICH THE CITY MANAGER BELIEVES ARE ROUTINE IN NATURE.

ALL RIGHT, NOW, LET'S LOOK AT THE SECOND PART OF COUNCIL POLICY 17, THIS IS REGARDING MEETING PROCEDURES AND CONDUCT.

FIRST, LET'S LOOK AT THE PRESIDING OFFICER.

OBVIOUSLY, THE PRESIDING OFFICER RUNS THE MEETING.

THE PRESIDING OFFICER IS TYPICALLY THE MAYOR; IN THE ABSENCE OF THE MAYOR, IT'S THE MAYOR PRO TEM. IN THE ABSENCE OF THE MAYOR AND THE MAYOR PRO TEM, IT'S THE LONGEST SERVING COUNCIL MEMBER AND IN THE EVENT OF A TIE OF THE LONGEST SERVING COUNCIL MEMBER, WE HAVE A TIE, AS FAR AS TENURE IS CONCERNED, WE CAST LOTS.

IT'S YOUR POLICY. SO IF YOU WANT TO LAUGH, DON'T LAUGH AT ME.

IT'S YOUR POLICY. [LAUGHTER] OK, BUT THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHAT IT SAYS.

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WOULDN'T THAT BE FUN? A MAN THAT KEEPS DICE IN A DRAWER SOMEWHERE.

FLIPPING COINS. OK, WE'LL FLIP A COIN.

WE'LL SEE HOW IT WORKS. LET'S HOPE WE DON'T HAVE A 3 WAY TIE.

ONE THING TO KEEP IN MIND.

PRESIDING OFFICER RUNS THE MEETING AND THERE'S A CERTAIN POWER THAT COMES ALONG WITH IT.

BUT ACCORDING TO COUNCIL POLICY TEAM, THERE'S ALSO SOME I DON'T WANT TO SAY DRAWBACK BUT SOME LIMITATIONS IN SERVING AS THE PRESIDING OFFICER.

PRESIDING OFFICER CANNOT MAKE A MOTION.

THEY CAN SECOND A MOTION, BUT ACCORDING TO COUNCIL POLICY 17, THE PRESIDING OFFICER CANNOT MAKE A MOTION.

EXECUTIVE SESSION.

WE TALKED EARLIER THAT COUNCIL POLICY 17 CANNOT OVERRULE STATE LAW, AND IT DOESN'T TRY TO. IT LISTS AND DISCUSSES EXECUTIVE SESSION IN THIS POLICY.

STATES THAT WE HAVE TO ALWAYS COMPLY WITH STATE LAW AND WE ALWAYS DO.

ANNUAL CALENDAR, COUNCIL POLICY 17 STATES THAT YOU WILL ADOPT AN ANNUAL CALENDAR BY DECEMBER 1ST, THE YEAR PRIOR.

THAT IS SOMETHING THAT AMANDA ALWAYS MAKE SURE IT'S DONE.

CITIZEN APPEARANCES, WHAT'S GREAT ABOUT THIS IS THIS ACTUALLY NOW A PART OF STATE LAW.

YOU HAVE TO ALLOW CITIZENS TO SPEAK ON ITEMS POSTED ON THE AGENDA.

YOU HAVE TO GIVE CITIZENS TIME TO SPEAK.

THIS COUNCIL PASSED THIS POLICY WITH THIS PROVISION IN IT LONG BEFORE THE STATE LAW WAS WAS ADOPTED, AND IT REALLY MIRRORS WHAT THE STATE LAW REQUIRES NOW.

JUST A COUPLE OF THOUGHTS ON CITIZENS APPEARANCES.

UNDER CITIZENS APPEARANCES, YOU'VE SEEN IT ON A REGULAR MEETING AGENDAS WHERE WE HAVE A SECTION IN OUR AGENDA WHERE CITIZENS CAN ADDRESS COUNCIL ON ANY TOPIC THEY SEE FIT.

IF THEY WANT TO ADDRESS COUNCIL ON A TOPIC THAT'S POSTED, THEN ESSENTIALLY THEY SPEAK AT THE TIME THE CALLED ITEM IS BROUGHT FORWARD.

EACH SPEAKER RECEIVES 3 MINUTES TO SPEAK.

IT'S NOT A DISCUSSION, THOUGH, AND WE HAVE TO BE REALLY CAREFUL ABOUT THAT WHEN WE'RE DISCUSSING ITEMS DURING THE CITIZEN APPEARANCES SECTION, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NON POSTED ITEMS, WE DON'T WANT TO VIOLATE THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT.

BUT COUNCIL IS ALLOWED TO GIVE DIRECTION TO STAFF OR ASK QUESTIONS TO STAFF AND IS ABLE TO STATE BASIC POLICY.

BUT ALSO LIST ONLINE SPEAKER CARDS, WHICH IS AN OPTION YOU CAN TURN IN AN ONLINE SPEAKER CARD UP TO 30 MINUTES BEFORE MEETING.

PUBLIC HEARINGS, SOMETIMES WE HOLD PUBLIC HEARINGS JUST TO, YOU KNOW, MUCH LIKE CITIZEN APPEARANCES, WE HAVE SOME OF THE SAME RULES THAT ARE IN PLACE.

YOU GET 3 MINUTES TO SPEAK, SIX MINUTES IF YOU REQUIRE A TRANSLATOR.

ALSO, PUBLIC HEARINGS, THE PUBLIC GOES FIRST.

IT'S THE REASON WE ALLOW THE PUBLIC TO SPEAK FIRST.

PUBLIC GOES FIRST AND THEN COUNCIL SPEAKS, WHICH MAKES SENSE.

YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU HEAR THE PUBLIC BEFORE COUNCIL WEIGHS IN.

ADJOURNMENT, YOU ALL HAVE DONE THAT LOTS OF TIMES.

ADJOURNMENT, ACCORDING TO COUNCIL POLICY.

17. IT REQUIRES A MOTION AND A SECOND DOES NOT REQUIRE A VOTE.

THAT'S WHY WE DON'T VOTE.

ALL RIGHT, LET'S GET TO WHAT ESSENTIALLY ARE CALLED THE BURLESON RULES OF ORDER.

THIS SECTION GOVERNS KIND OF THE FLOOR OF THE MEETING.

SO LET'S BEGIN WITH A QUORUM.

THIS QUORUM IS NOT DISCUSSED IN COUNCIL POLICY 17.

BUT OBVIOUSLY, IN ORDER TO TRANSACT BUSINESS, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A QUORUM OF THE COUNCIL, ACCORDING TO THE GOVERNMENT CODE, A QUORUM OF THE COUNCIL IS A MAJORITY OF THE ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES. SO THAT WOULD ALWAYS BE FOUR; YOU HAVE TO HAVE AT LEAST FOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS TO CONDUCT BUSINESS.

PRESIDING OFFICER, WE'VE ALREADY COVERED THIS, BUT ONE THING TO KEEP IN MIND ON PRESIDING OFFICER IT STATES AND THE RULES OF ORDER, THE PRESIDING OFFICER CAN TAKE ITEMS OUT OF ORDER. WE DON'T HAVE TO GO IN THE ORDER OF THE AGENDA, AND I ACTUALLY THINK WE'VE DONE THAT FAIRLY RECENTLY A COUPLE OF TIMES.

SO MOTIONS.

ALL RIGHT. SO LET'S TALK BRIEFLY ABOUT THE FLOOR AND I'M GOING TO GO OFF SCRIPT AGAIN HERE. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE FLOOR OF THE MEETING, THIS KIND OF RIBITZKI'S VIEW OF THE MEETING. [CHUCKLING] SO THIS GOING TO BE A GROSS OVERSIMPLIFICATION.

BUT WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE FLOOR OF THE MEETING, THERE ARE BASICALLY 3 ITEMS 3 TYPES OF ITEMS. OK.

YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE YOUR STANDARD MOTIONS.

THOSE ARE GOING TO BE YOUR MOTIONS TO APPROVE ITEMS. LET'S SAY A MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE A RIGHT.

YOU GET A SECOND AND THEN IT GOES TO A VOTE.

THAT'S YOUR STANDARD BASIC MOTION.

YOUR MOTION TO TRANSACT BUSINESS.

ALL RIGHT. SECOND TYPE OF ITEM THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE ARE GOING TO BE WHAT I CALL

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THESE ARE THINGS THAT INTERRUPT THE UNDERLYING MOTION, RIGHT? YOUR UNDERLYING MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE A, YOUR SPECIAL MOTION IS GOING TO SAY HOLD ON, HOLD ON, BEFORE WE VOTE ON THIS, WE NEED TO TAKE ANOTHER ACTION.

OK. THIS WILL MAKE MORE SENSE.

WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH THESE ITEMS AND THEY EACH KIND OF FIT IN A CATEGORY, BUT A SPECIAL ACTION REQUIRES TO BE RESOLVED BEFORE THE UNDERLYING MOTION CAN BE RESOLVED.

AND IT USUALLY REQUIRES A VOTE, OR AT LEAST A SECOND.

THE THIRD ITEM YOU HAVE IS CALLED A POINT.

A POINT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT REQUIRES ANY SORT OF ACTION, BUT IT'S USUALLY JUST A CLARIFICATION, A SIMPLE STATEMENT, BUT THE CHAIR HAS TO ENTERTAIN.

SO THE MAYOR, AS THE CHAIR HAS TO REMEMBER THOSE KIND OF 3 BASIC RULES.

YOU HAVE YOUR STANDARD MOTION, YOU HAVE YOUR KIND OF PRIVILEGED ACTIONS AND THEN YOU HAVE YOUR POINTS OF ORDER.

ALL RIGHT, THIS WILL MAKE MORE SENSE AS WE WALK THROUGH THEM BECAUSE WE'RE ABOUT TO WALK THROUGH SOME EXAMPLES. OK, SO LET'S TALK ABOUT MOTIONS.

ACCORDING TO COUNCIL POLICY 17, A MOTION REQUIRES A SECOND.

THAT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, A SURPRISE.

YOU ALL KNOW THAT IT REQUIRES US A SECOND.

AND VERY IMPORTANTLY, IT CANNOT BE AMENDED BY ANYBODY EXCEPT FOR THE PERSON MAKING THE MOTION. WHEN I TALK ABOUT WHY THESE SETS OF RULES ARE MUCH LESS COMPLICATED THAN LIKE ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDERS, THAT RIGHT, THERE IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE HAVE SUCH A SIMPLIFICATION. BECAUSE WHEN YOU REALLY GET DOWN INTO THE BYZANTINE STRUCTURE OF LIKE ROBERT'S RULES, IT'S WHEN YOU START HAVING AMENDMENTS TO MOTIONS AND TABLING.

YOU START GETTING REALLY DOWN IN THE WEEDS ABOUT HOW YOU CAN AMEND MOTIONS AND AMENDING THE AMENDMENT AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

THE SIMPLIFICATION COMES HERE IS THAT NO MOTION CAN BE AMENDED UNLESS THE PERSON MAKING THE MOTION AMENDS THE MOTION.

OK, SO VERY IMPORTANT REQUIRES A SECOND.

NO AMENDMENT CAN BE MADE TO A MOTION EXCEPT FOR BY THE PERSON MAKING THE MOTION.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? SO LET'S GO BACK TO OUR EXAMPLES.

LET'S USE AN EXAMPLE.

A MOTION, WE'VE DONE THIS LOTS OF TIMES.

YOU'VE DONE IT TODAY BEFORE THIS PRESENTATION.

MOTION, YOU GET A SECOND.

LET'S SAY YOU WANT TO PASS THE BUDGET ORDINANCE.

BAM, THAT'S ALL YOU DO.

THAT'S A STANDARD MOTION.

THAT'S YOUR STANDARD MOTION REQUIRES A SECOND, PUTS IT TO A VOTE.

CAN'T BE AMENDED UNLESS THE PERSON MAKING THE MOTION AMENDS THE MOTION.

OK, SO LET'S GO TO THE SECOND CATEGORY, RIGHT? WE TALKED ABOUT THERE ARE CERTAIN SPECIAL OR PRIVILEGED ACTIONS THAT WOULD BE THE CALL THE QUESTION. ALL RIGHT.

CALL TO QUESTION OR CALL THE QUESTION IS GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT INTERRUPTS THE DEBATE ON THE MOTION.

WHAT THE CALL THE QUESTION DOES, IT DOES NOT REQUIRE A VOTE.

IT DOES REQUIRE A SECOND.

IT ESSENTIALLY ENDS DEBATE AND FORCES A VOTE ON THE UNDERLYING MOTION.

SO LET'S GO BACK TO OUR EXAMPLE.

LET'S SAY A MOTION TO PASS ORDINANCE AND DEBATE ENSUES AND IT'S [INAUDIBLE].

YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE DON'T LIKE A.

SOME PEOPLE WANT Z. Z'S BETTER THAN A; A'S BETTER THAN Z.

AND YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY REALIZES COUNCIL MEMBER REALIZES WE'RE GETTING NO PLACE FAST.

EVERYBODY HAS THEIR HEELS DUG IN.

LET'S JUST PUT IT TO A VOTE.

WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT DISAGREE, YOU TALKED ABOUT THE COUNCIL OR I'M TALKING ABOUT THE COUNCIL. WE ACTUALLY HAVE A DEBATE.

THE MOTION HAS BEEN MADE.

THERE'S DISCUSSION AMONG THE COUNCIL MEMBERS ON HOW TO VOTE.

EVERYONE SPEAKING THEIR PIECE AND STATING THE WAY THE ORDINANCE, YOU KNOW, SHOULD BE VOTED UPON THE CALL.

THE QUESTION ESSENTIALLY ENDS A DEBATE.

SOMEBODY COULD SAY CALL TO QUESTION.

IF IT RECEIVES A SECOND, THEN DEBATE ENDS AND WE JUST DO AN UP AND DOWN VOTE.

WE JUST VOTE ON THE UNDERLYING MOTION.

BUT ANY COUNCIL MEMBER CAN CALL THAT.

ANY COUNCIL MEMBER CAN CALL THAT.

IT HAS TO HAVE A SECOND, BUT ANY COUNCIL MEMBER CAN CALL IT.

HISTORICALLY, AS I'M AWARE, THAT'S HAPPENED ONE TIME IN THE 14 YEARS I'VE BEEN ON CITY COUNCIL, AND THAT WAS WHEN FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER TODD HULSEY CALLED THE QUESTION ON SOMETHING ON WHICH HE AND THE MAYOR HAD AN ONGOING DEBATE THAT DIDN'T SEEM TO END, SO IT WAS APPROPRIATELY USED.

IT CALLED THE QUESTION, A VOTE WAS TAKEN AND HELL, I MISSED THE FIREWORKS; I WAS OUT OF TOWN THAT NIGHT [LAUGHTER] BUT I HEARD ABOUT IT LATER.

SO THAT IS ACTUALLY NOT WITHOUT PRECEDENT.

MAYOR PRO TEM IS EXACTLY RIGHT.

I'VE SEEN YOU ALL JUST HERE RECENTLY TALK ABOUT THINGS.

EVERYONE KIND OF HAS HER THOUGHTS AND SOMEBODY SAYS, WELL, LET'S JUST VOTE ON IT.

IS THERE A MOTION? I MEAN, THERE'S NOT ACTUALLY THE NEED TO SAY, CALL THE QUESTION.

SOMEBODY JUST SAYS, LET'S PUT IT TO A VOTE AND THE VOTE JUST OCCURS.

BUT ACCORDING TO YOUR POLICY, YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO CALL THE QUESTION OK.

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NOW THING TO KEEP IN MIND OR CALL THE QUESTION IS YOU HAVE TO HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.

YOU'RE CALLING THE QUESTION ON EXISTING MOTION, BECAUSE SOMETIMES YOU'LL ENTER INTO DEBATE BEFORE MOTIONS EVEN MADE RIGHT? AT THAT POINT, YOU WOULD JUST MAKE THE MOTION.

FOR CALL THE QUESTION TO REALLY WORK, MOTION HAS TO BE ON THE FLOOR.

OTHERWISE, JUST MAKE THE MOTION AND THEN YOU COULD CALL THE QUESTIONS.

THAT MAKES SENSE. OK.

SO IF YOU DON'T GET A SECOND, WHAT HAPPENS THEN? YOU CONTINUE TO DEBATE? NO, IF YOU DON'T HAVE A SECOND MOTION AUTOMATICALLY, IT CANNOT BE MADE.

EXCUSE ME, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, CALL THE QUESTION? YES. WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT IS THAT IF YOU DON'T GET A SECOND FOR THE CALL TO QUESTION, THE DEBATE CONTINUES.

DEBATE CONTINUES.

CORRECT. SORRY, DEBATE CONTINUES; YOU DON'T GET A SECOND AND IF YOU DON'T GET A SECOND ON A MOTION, IT AUTOMATICALLY DIES, AS YOU ALL KNOW.

ALL RIGHT. SO, POINT OF ORDER AND POINT OF INFORMATION.

I KIND OF TAKE THESE, BOTH OF THESE AT LEAST THEORETICALLY OPERATE THE SAME WAY.

AGAIN, THESE AREN'T YOUR STANDARD MOTIONS.

THESE AREN'T YOUR PRIVILEGED TYPE MOTIONS.

THESE ARE SIMPLY POINTS THAT YOU'RE BASICALLY MAKING A POINT.

THAT'S [INAUDIBLE] ON POINTS, YOU'RE JUST MAKING A POINT TO THE CHAIR.

SO A POINT OF INFORMATION IS EASY ENOUGH.

I THINK THAT'S THE EASIEST ONE TO KIND OF REMEMBER.

POINT OF INFORMATION, YOU CAN ESSENTIALLY JUST ASK THE CHAIR TO BASICALLY TELL THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.

THAT'S ALL IT DOES. YOU COULD DO THAT YOURSELF.

BUT I MEAN, IT ALLOWS. THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHAT A POINT OF INFORMATION IS A POINT OF ORDER. AGAIN, YOU MAKE THIS.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A SECOND.

AND THERE'S NO DEBATE.

YOU ARE JUST STATING TO THE CHAIR POINT OF ORDER.

POINT OF INFORMATION. I BELIEVE THE COUNCIL SHOULD CONSIDER THIS AND THEN IT'S DONE.

THE MAYOR DOESN'T HAVE TO TAKE ANY ACTION ON IT.

I MEAN, IT JUST KIND OF IS RIGHT.

POINT OF ORDER. LET'S TALK ABOUT A POINT OF ORDER.

SAME THING. NO ACTION, NO SECOND REQUIRED.

BUT THERE ARE TWO TYPES OF POINT OF ORDERS.

ONE IS THE PROCEDURAL POINT OF ORDER.

SO LET'S GO BACK TO OUR EXAMPLE.

RIGHT, I THINK IT HELPS TO WORK THESE OUT THROUGH EXAMPLES.

WE'VE GOT ORDINANCE A; WE'VE GOT THIS HOT DEBATE GOING ON BETWEEN WHETHER IT SHOULD BE A OR Z. WE CALL THE QUESTION, WE GET A SECOND.

AND SO NOW WE'RE PUTTING IT UP TO A VOTE, RIGHT? BUT WE'VE BEEN DEBATING FOR A LONG TIME AND THAT MOTION WAS MADE A LONG TIME AGO AND WE KIND OF FORGOT WHAT WAS HAPPENING.

SOMEBODY CAN GO, MR. MAYOR, POINT OF ORDER, DO WE GET A SECOND ON THAT MOTION? WHO MADE THE MOTION? WHO WAS THE FIRST AND SECOND? IT'S ESSENTIALLY A PROCEDURAL QUESTION.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? NO ACTION, NO VOTE.

IT'S JUST, HEY, ARE WE GOOD HERE? 'WE OK HERE? THE OTHER ONE IS A POINT OF FILIBUSTER.

ESSENTIALLY, THAT'S JUST AN OPPORTUNITY TO INTERRUPT A SPEAKER.

SO I GUESS IF YOU DIDN'T WANT TO CALL THE QUESTION AND YOU'VE GOT A SPEAKER THAT'S REALLY TALKING FOR A LONG TIME, ANY COUNCIL MEMBER CAN ASK THE MAYOR AND SAY, MR. MAYOR, POINT OF INFORMATION.

EXCUSE ME, POINT OF ORDER.

I WOULD LIKE TO YIELD THE FLOOR FOR ANY OTHER SPEAKER AND WHOEVER SPEAKING STOPS FOR A MINUTE. AND GIVES ANYBODY ANOTHER CHANCE TO SPEAK, AND THEN IF NO ONE WANTS TO SPEAK, THE SPEAKER CAN CONTINUE, I GUESS.

I ALWAYS LOOK AT IT IN MY MIND.

AND AGAIN, IT'S GOING TO BE A, YOU KNOW, GROSS OVERSIMPLIFICATION.

BUT MY MIND ALWAYS THINK THAT IT'S SOMEBODY THAT'S MAYBE ARGUING FOR SOMETHING THAT I WANT ALREADY AGREES WITH.

RIGHT. SO YOU GOT SOMEBODY THAT SAYS, I BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD HAVE POLICE IN THE CITY.

OK. AND YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GOING ON AND ON AND ON, AND YOU ALL ARE WORRIED ABOUT THE AGENDA SIZE. YOU COULD, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD SAY, MR. MAYOR, POINT OF ORDER, FILIBUSTER, JUST I THINK EVERYBODY AGREES WITH YOU.

AND YOU KNOW, THE PERSON SPEAKING COULD LOOK BACK AND GO, OH, WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE.

I'LL STOP SPEAKING. THEN, YOU KNOW, AND THEN WE COULD ALL SIT DOWN AND MOVE ON.

IT'S KIND OF THE WAY I WORK IT OUT IN MY MIND.

SO POINT OF ORDER, YOU CAN DO IT FOR PROCEDURAL PURPOSES.

YOU CAN DO IT TO INTERRUPT A SPEAKER.

ALL RIGHT. NO SECOND REQUIRED.

NO DEBATE. AGAIN, DOESN'T REALLY ACCOMPLISH ANYTHING? IT'S JUST MORE OF HOW THE MEETING FLOWS AND MAKING SURE THINGS ARE RIGHT.

TABLING AN ITEM: UNDER COUNCIL POLICY 17, YOU CAN TABLE AN ITEM TO A SPECIFIC DATE.

IF YOU DON'T TABLE IT TO A DATE SPECIFIC, IT COMES OFF WITHIN 180 DAYS.

IT'S ACTUALLY PLACED BACK ON THE AGENDA.

YEAH. COMES OFF THE TABLE AFTER A HUNDRED AND EIGHTY--AND MUST BE PLACED ON THE NEXT REGULAR AGENDA FOR CONSIDERATION.

VOTING REQUIREMENTS, THIS NOT IN COUNCIL POLICY 17, BUT JUST KEEP IN MIND THAT VOTING REQUIREMENTS, I MEAN, THAT'S THE WHOLE PURPOSE IS TO GET IT TO A VOTE.

MOST OF THE TIME, EVERYTHING THAT'S REQUIRED IS A MAJORITY OF A QUORUM.

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TYPICALLY, A MAJORITY OF A QUORUM CAN PASS MOST ACTIONS.

THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS, THOUGH.

AGAIN, COUNCIL POLICY 17, YOU CAN'T YOU DON'T OVERRULE STATE LAW.

SOMETIMES THE LAW REQUIRES MORE THAN JUST A MAJORITY OF A QUORUM.

IF YOU THINK ABOUT A ZONING CONTEST, YOU HAVE TO HAVE 3 FOURTHS OF THE ELECTED COUNCIL.

SO AT THAT POINT, I THINK WE'D HAVE TO HAVE SIX.

ALSO IN OUR CHARTER STATES THAT FOR RESOLUTION ORDINANCES, YOU HAVE TO HAVE FOUR AFFIRMATIVE VOTES.

SO NOT JUST A MAJORITY OF A QUORUM, YOU HAVE TO HAVE FOUR AFFIRMATIVE VOTES.

SO LET'S SAY WE HAD A QUORUM OF FOUR PEOPLE.

WE HAD AN ORDINANCE IN FRONT OF YOU AND IT PASSED 3 TO 1.

WE HAVE TO HAVE FOUR.

THAT SITUATION, THAT'S NOT A MAJORITY OF A QUORUM.

IT WOULD ACTUALLY REQUIRE FOUR AFFIRMATIVE VOTES, UNANIMOUS APPROVAL OF A QUORUM IN THAT SITUATION. 'WE HAVING FUN YET? ALL RIGHT. THE THIRD SECTION, I DON'T HAVE A SLIDE ON THE THIRD SECTION; THE THIRD SECTION IS YOUR ORDER OF BUSINESS.

YOU SEE THAT EVERY TIME AND THAT'S ESSENTIALLY YOUR AGENDA OUTLINE IF YOU WONDER WHY YOUR AGENDA IS STRUCTURED THE WAY IT IS, THAT'S BECAUSE COUNCIL POLICY 17 LISTS OUT WHAT WE'RE DOING IN THE AGENDA, AND YOU ALL SET THAT FRAMEWORK.

LAST, MAYOR PRO TEM SECTION SIX OF COUNCIL POLICY 17, DISCUSSES THE MAYOR PRO TEM.

SECTION 22 OF THE CITY CHARTER REALLY MIRRORS THIS.

IT ESSENTIALLY SAYS THE MAYOR PRO TEM SERVES IN THE ABSENCE OF THE MAYOR AND THE COUNCIL WILL ELECT MAYOR PRO TEM ANNUALLY.

COUNCIL POLICY 17 STATES THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN ON AUGUST 31ST.

BY AUGUST 31ST OF EVERY YEAR, IN ORDER TO BE QUALIFIED TO SERVE, YOU HAVE TO HAVE BEEN A COUNCIL MEMBER FOR AT LEAST TWO YEARS.

AND IT ALSO SETS FORTH A NOMINATION PROCESS, WHICH ESSENTIALLY YOU SEND IN YOUR NOMINATIONS TO CITY SECRETARY BEFORE THE MEETING AND THEN AT THE TIME THAT THE ITEM IS DISCUSSED IN AN OPEN SESSION, NOT THAT WOULD EVER BE DISCUSSED BEFORE, BUT WHEN IT'S DISCUSSED IN OPEN SESSION, THOSE NOMINEES ARE READ.

ALL RIGHT, SO THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT, GUYS.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? I HAVE ONE QUESTION.

OUR POLICY STATES THAT WE ARE TO RECEIVE THE AGENDA.

OR IS IT THE FULL PACKET WITHIN FIVE DAYS OR FIVE DAYS PRIOR? IT SAYS THE AGENDA PACKET SHOULD BE DISTRIBUTED SHOULD BE DISTRIBUTED FIVE DAYS BEFORE MEETING. AND DOES THAT MEAN THE WHOLE CONTENTS? THAT IS THE ORIGINAL INTENT.

SO I'M HATING TO PUT YOU GUYS ON THE--BUT THE REALITY OF IT IS WE GET IT FRIDAY AFTERNOON, VERY LATE.

THAT LEAVES US, NOW, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE ALL SIGNED UP FOR THIS.

SO WE UNDERSTAND IT REQUIRES WEEKENDS.

BUT I FIND IT DIFFICULT TO GET WITH DIRECTORS AND GET ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE ON MONDAY PRIOR TO A MEETING.

AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THAT WE CAN ADHERE TO THAT IN THE FUTURE TO GET IT ON THURSDAY. SO THAT GIVES US AT LEAST A FRIDAY AND A MONDAY.

I JUST FIND IT DIFFICULT TO SOMETIMES GET ALL THE QUESTIONS ANSWERED.

AND SO THEREFORE, I DON'T ASK THEM SOMETIMES, AND IT PUTS PEOPLE UNDER THE GUN.

AND YOU KNOW, I TRY NOT TO BE A BURDEN TO THE STAFF, ESPECIALLY ON A COUNCIL DAY.

THEY ARE BUSY, ESPECIALLY IF THEY'RE PRESENTING.

AND I JUST FIND THAT IT'S BEEN DIFFICULT TO GET IT ON A LATE FRIDAY AFTERNOON AND TO NOT BE ABLE TO HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO FULLY PREPARE.

IF THAT MEANS GOING OUT AND LOOKING AT A LOCATION, SOMETIMES WE'RE NOT ABLE TO DO IT ON SATURDAY. OR EVEN, YOU KNOW, MAYBE NOT UNTIL A MONDAY.

I'M ABLE TO DO IT. AND THEN YOU'RE JUGGLING OUR JOBS, OUR REGULAR LIVES AND TRYING TO SQUEEZE THIS IN, IN LESS AMOUNT OF TIME.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THAT WE CAN TRY TO GET THAT IN LITERALLY FIVE DAYS BEFORE.

SO THAT WOULD BE WEDNESDAY EVENING FOR A MONDAY.

SO WE NEED TO HAVE IT BY WEDNESDAY AT FIVE O'CLOCK.

WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT AND I RECOGNIZE THAT IS DIFFICULT TO GET ALL THAT INFORMATION JUST A FEW DAYS IN ADVANCE OF THE AGENDA.

AND IT'S A HERCULEAN TASK FOR US TO GET ALL OF THIS INFORMATION AND ALL THE ITEMS AND PREPARE ALL THE INFORMATION AND GET IT TO YOU.

SO I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT WE'LL BE GLAD IF THAT'S THE DATE THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THE AGENDAS TO YOU BY WEDNESDAY AT FIVE O'CLOCK, WE'LL HIT THAT.

IT MAY MEAN SOME ITEMS JUST SIMPLY AREN'T READY, AND THEY'LL JUST HAVE TO BE PUSHED TO FUTURE AGENDA AND WE'LL BE GLAD TO DO THAT IF THAT'S THE DESIRE OF THE COUNCIL.

I KNOW THAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME TO ADJUST, SO I'M WILLING TO SAY LIKE, OK, WE

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YOU GUYS GET COMFORTABLE WITH THURSDAY.

I KNOW HOW THIS GOES IN MY OFFICE.

WHEN WE MAKE ADJUSTMENTS TO A SCHEDULE LIKE THIS, IT TAKES TIME.

SO IF YOU TRY THURSDAY AND IF WE CAN SHOOT FOR THURSDAY FOR A COUPLE OF MONTHS AND THEN ADJUST TO A WEDNESDAY, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

I JUST THOUGHT THAT IT WAS IN THERE FROM THE VERY BEGINNING AND WE'VE NEVER, EVER HIT THAT AT ALL.

WELL, AND THERE IS A SECTION IN THE COUNCIL POLICY WHERE YOU ALL STATE AS COUNCIL MEMBERS, YOU'LL BE PREPARED AND READ THROUGH THE MATERIALS.

AND I THINK THAT'S KIND OF THE TANDEM OF TRYING TO GET IT TO YOU ALL.

SPEED READING IT. I DON'T KNOW HOW.

[CHUCKLING] YEAH, I AGREE WITH WHAT THE MAYOR IS SAYING; IT'S NOT A LOT OF TIME.

AND YOU KNOW, MORE THAN ONCE, I'VE CALLED YOU FRANTICALLY ON A MONDAY TRYING TO GIVE YOU SOME HEADS UP ABOUT SOMETHING THAT I FOUND IN THE AGENDA PACKET, BUT I DIDN'T SEE IT TILL OVER THE WEEKEND WHEN I WAS STUDYING THE AGENDA AND THE PACKET.

AND SO, SHE'S RIGHT THAT THERE WILL BE MORE QUESTIONS ASKED, PROBABLY, BUT MORE TIMELY INFORMATION BACK TO STAFF, SO YOU ALL HAVE MORE TIME TO RESPOND TO THE QUESTIONS AND NOT TRYING TO PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER.

I'M JUST WONDERING IF THERE WOULD BE A WAY THAT WE COULD DO A PRELIMINARY PACKET SO THAT, BECAUSE I MEAN, ALL ALL APPLICANTS FOR ITEMS ON THE AGENDA HAVE UNTIL SOMETIME ON FRIDAY, I THINK, TO GET THEIR FINAL CASE PREPARED BEFORE THE AGENDA IS POSTED.

AS THE RULES ARE FOR DISCUSSION, THE AGENDA HAS TO BE POSTED FRIDAY BEFORE CLOSING FOR THE MONDAY NIGHT MEETING.

CORRECT? SEVENTY TWO HOURS IN ADVANCE.

SO AN APPLICANT COULD EITHER WITHDRAW, MODIFY OR WHATEVER A PROPOSAL IT WAS BEFORE THE COUNCIL AND THEN THE AGENDA PACKAGE WOULD HAVE TO BE UPDATED.

SO, YEAH, IF WE DON'T DO THAT, THEN THAT FORCES THEM BACK TO THE DEADLINE.

IT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO--I NEED TO LOOK AT THE DEVELOPMENT TIMELINE BECAUSE THIS GOES BACK AND HITS WINTER CASES HITTING P AND Z.

WHEN DO THEY HAVE TO COME FORWARD TO COUNCIL TO MEET THE 30 DAY SHOT CLOCK AND SOME OF THOSE THINGS. SO WE'LL NEED TO KIND OF LOOK AT THOSE PIECES, AND CERTAINLY SOMEONE COULD ALWAYS WITHDRAW SOMETHING, EVEN IF IT'S POSTED ON YOUR AGENDA.

THAT'S HAPPENED SEVERAL TIMES WHERE PEOPLE WOULD JUST WITHDRAW AN ITEM, BUT I NEED TO PROBABLY THINK THROUGH THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE CLEARLY ON THE TIMELINE WITH P&Z AND HOW THE CASES KIND OF COME FORWARD.

BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING, OTHER ITEMS WE'LL GET THEM WEDNESDAY OR THEY DON'T GO.

THEY'RE NOT READY TO GO. WE JUST CAN'T HAVE THEM.

NOW THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT JUST HAVE TO GO.

AND IF WE DON'T HAVE A CONTRACT OR WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE DOCUMENTATION, WE'LL POST THE ITEM AND POST IT ON THE AGENDA.

AND THEN WE MAY HAVE TO SEND YOU A SEPARATE EMAIL WITH HERE'S SOME BACKUP INFORMATION FOR THIS. THEN WE'LL POST IT ON THE WEBSITE, BUT WE HAD TO POST IT AND GET IT OUT THERE TO YOU, SO WE HAVE TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF FLEXIBILITY ON THAT.

I MEAN, WHEN WE HAVE LIKE 1500 PAGE RIGHT NOW, THINGS TO LOOK THROUGH EVEN WITH LIKE I WAS GOING TO GO THAT SAME ROUTE OF IF WE COULD GET SOMETHING AND THEN IF ON FRIDAY, BEFORE THE 72 HOURS BEFORE THE OFFICIAL IS POSTED FOR THE PUBLIC, WE COULD GET AN AMENDMENT OR JUST FYI, THIS HAS BEEN ADDED.

THAT'S AT LEAST MORE DIGESTIBLE THAN TRYING TO CRAM ALL OF THIS IN IN A WEEKEND.

AND LIKE TAMARA SAID, IF WE WANT TO GO LOOK AT LOCATIONS OR IF THERE'S SOMETHING COMING UP AND YOU CAN'T GET TO IT ON A CERTAIN DAY OR CERTAIN TIME, AND IT'S I DON'T WANT TO BE A BURDEN OVER THE WEEKEND TO LIKE I HAVE THINGS THAT ARE LIKE, OK, I DON'T WANT A BUG STAFF ON THE WEEKENDS.

AND YOU KNOW, I KNOW WE'RE ALL GLUED TO OUR DEVICES AND WE DO SEE THESE THINGS.

BUT THAT'S NOT FAIR AND THAT'S NOT EVEN FAIR TO US.

EVEN THOUGH, LIKE TAMARA SAID, WE UNDERSTAND WHAT WE SIGNED UP FOR, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE ARE STILL THE PERSON WE WANT TO BE AT HOME TO.

SO WE HAVE TO SET THOSE BOUNDARIES FOR OURSELVES.

AND SO IF WE HAD BUSINESS DAYS TO WORK THROUGH THE MATERIALS IN APPROPRIATE MANNER, CALL EMAIL, WORK WITH STAFF ON QUESTIONS, YOU KNOW, WE MIGHT GET THINGS CLARIFIED IN ADVANCE AND BE ABLE TO ADEQUATELY EXPLAIN THINGS HERE AT COUNCIL IF WE STILL GENUINELY HAVE CONCERNS. ONE OF THE THINGS I DON'T WANT US TO DO IS TO DROP ITEMS. I MEAN, WE'RE ALREADY BOOKED AS MUCH AS WE ARE, AND WE'RE HAVING TO HAVE SPECIAL SESSIONS LIKE THIS TO GET THINGS DONE.

SO I GUESS MY QUESTION IS I'M OK WITH THURSDAY, IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO DROP ITEMS, YOU KNOW, IF THURSDAY WORKS FOR YOU BETTER, THAT'S FINE.

IF IT WORKS FOR COUNCIL, COULD WE TRY THURSDAY AND TRY TO KIND OF EASE INTO WHAT WE NEED? YEAH, I AGREE. I DON'T WANT TO DROP ANY ITEMS. I MEAN, WE DON'T WANT TO GET ANY FURTHER BEHIND THAN WE ARE.

RIGHT, THAT'S WHY I SAID, IF WE HAVE TO EASE INTO THIS AND MAKE AN ADJUSTMENT, LITTLE BY LITTLE, THAT'S GREAT.

AS LONG AS--I THINK THAT STAFF WOULD BE MORE AMENABLE TO THAT AS WELL.

JUST HAVING AN EXTRA BUSINESS DAY FRIDAY TO DO HOMEWORK AND GET WHERE WE NEED TO BE WITH

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BRYAN DID I UNDERSTAND THIS CORRECTLY? HELP. AM I READING THIS THE WAY I'M THINKING I'M READING IT? WELL, I APPRECIATE THAT.

WE'RE GLAD TO DO IT ANY WAY YOU WANT.

IF YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH GETTING IT BY THURSDAY, WE'LL HIT THURSDAY.

IF YOU WANT TO DO WEDNESDAY, WE'LL DO THAT.

AND I DO LIKE THE IDEA THAT REGARDLESS OF WHICH DAY THAT WE GET YOU, THAT INFORMATION THAT IF WE HAVE AN ITEM THAT NEEDS TO GO AND YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH US, MAYBE SENDING A SUPPLEMENT THE NEXT DAY OR GETTING SOMETHING, HERE'S THE CONTRACT, OR HERE'S THE POWERPOINT THAT WE DIDN'T QUITE FINISH AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THAT AND WE CAN WORK THROUGH THAT AND WE'LL TRY TO KEEP THAT TO A MINIMUM.

BUT I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR TWENTY FIVE YEARS AND ALL TWENTY FIVE YEARS, IT'S ALWAYS THE SAME WITH AGENDAS AND COUNCIL, IT'S JUST DIFFICULT, AND THERE'S THINGS THAT COME UP, SO AS LONG AS YOU GUYS HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY IN MIND WITH THAT.

I KNOW WE CAN WORK THROUGH THAT AND MAKE IT HAPPEN.

IT'S JUST THERE'S ALWAYS A LAST MINUTE ITEM OR SOMETHING THAT COMES UP THAT WE'RE WORKING THROUGH. SO IT'S A LOT EASIER TO WORK THROUGH ONE OR TWO ITEMS AT THE LAST MINUTE VERSUS [INAUDIBLE] SOME OF THESE THINGS THAT I'VE LOOKED AT, I'M LIKE THIS PRESENTATION HAD TO HAVE BEEN, I MEAN, IT'S BEEN READY TO GO RIGHT.

WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS WAS GOING TO BE ON AN AGENDA LAST MONTH AND IT'S IT GOT PUSHED, IT GOT PUSHED. SO THOSE KIND OF THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN SITTING ON THE BACK BURNER WAITING NOT TO SAY THAT IT HASN'T BEEN ADJUSTED HERE OR THERE, BUT I KNOW LOOKING AT SOME ITEMS IN OUR AGENDA SOMETIMES LIKE THIS HAS BEEN WAITING TO COME UP AND IT COULD HAVE BEEN RECEIVED AND I COULD HAVE READ THROUGH IT ALL AND ASKED ANY QUESTIONS IF I HAD ANY.

BUT HAVING THE SUPPLEMENTS, THAT'S EASIER TO DIGEST ON A QUICKER TIME TURNAROUND THAN THE WHOLE ENCHILADA.

I WANT TO SAY HOW I APPRECIATE THE COUNCIL SHOWING UP FOR THE SPECIAL SESSIONS.

I KNOW I'VE TALKED TO BRYAN ABOUT THIS.

I KNOW WE'VE HAD TO DO IT, BUT YOU KNOW, I KNOW IT'S A STRAIN ON YOUR SCHEDULES AND STUFF LIKE THAT, BUT BRYAN HAS BEEN UNDER THE GUN ON THIS, AND I HATE TO BLAME HIM FOR ALL THE SPECIAL SESSIONS. BUT I'VE KIND OF SAID, IF YOU NEED IT, DO IT.

SO ANYWAY, THANK YOU ALL.

WELL, I THINK WITH THAT BEING SAID, I THINK THAT WE SAY, LET'S GIVE STAFF TILL THE FIRST MONDAY IN OCTOBER INSTEAD OF SAYING, HEY, WE'D LIKE THIS TURNAROUND IN 3 DAYS NOW, EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW? I THINK, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY IS WALKING OUT HERE GOING, OH MY GOODNESS, WHAT DID THEY JUST DO TO US? AGAIN, I WANT TO WORK WITH STAFF AND YOU AND UNDERSTAND THAT IF WE YOU'VE GOT TO GIVE TIME TO MAKE THESE ADJUSTMENTS.

SO IF WE WANT TO LOOK AT THIS FOR THE FIRST MEETING IN OCTOBER, THAT GIVES YOU ALL ADEQUATE TIME.

IS EVERYONE ELSE OKAY WITH THAT? OK, I WILL MAKE THIS COMMENT THAT IT IS CERTAINLY BEEN HELPFUL TO ME IN OUR MEETINGS WITH BRYAN BECAUSE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WERE THAT ARE COMING UP CAN BE CLARIFIED.

AND IF WE HAVE QUESTIONS, MAN, WE CAN DO IT RIGHT THEN.

SO THAT'S BEEN EXTREMELY HELPFUL AND A TIME SAVER ALSO.

I'M PROUD OF EVERYBODY.

I REALLY AM. GOOD STUFF.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. OK, MAYOR AND COUNCIL AT THIS TIME, WE NOW MOVE ON TO SECTION FOUR.

[4. RECESS INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION Pursuant to Section 551.071, Texas Government Code, the Council reserves the right to convene in Executive Session(s), from time to time as deemed necessary during this meeting for any posted agenda item, to receive advice from its attorney as permitted by law. Pending or Contemplated Litigation or to Seek the Advice of the City Attorney Pursuant to Section 551.071 Discussion Regarding Possible Purchase, Exchange, Lease, or Value of Real Property Pursuant to Section 551.072 Discuss and receive direction regarding the real property located at 224 West Eldred St, Burleson, Texas Discuss and receive direction regarding the real property located at 112 SE Gardens Blvd, Burleson, Texas Discuss and receive direction regarding the real property located at 124 Magnolia St, Burleson, Texas Discuss and receive direction regarding the real property located at 430 N Burleson Blvd, Burleson, Texas Discuss and receive direction regarding the real property located at 220 Centre St, Burleson, Texas Deliberation regarding a negotiated contract for a prospective gift or donation to the state or the governmental body Pursuant to Section 551.073 Personnel Matters Pursuant to Section 551.074 City Secretary Deliberation regarding (1) the deployment, or specific occasions for implementation of security personnel or devices; or (2) a security audit Pursuant to Sec. 551.076 Deliberation Regarding Commercial or Financial Information Received from or the Offer of a Financial or Other Incentive made to a Business Prospect Seeking to Locate, Stay or Expand in or Near the Territory of the City and with which the City is conducting Economic Development Negotiations Pursuant to Section 551.087 Pursuant to Sec. 418.0183(f), deliberation of information related to managing emergencies and disasters including those caused by terroristic acts (must be tape recorded)]

SO PURSUANT TO SECTION 551.071 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, THE COUNCIL RESERVES THE RIGHT TO CONVENE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FROM TIME TO TIME AS DEEMED NECESSARY.

TODAY, WE WILL RECESS INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO SECTION 551.071, 551.072, 551.074, 551.076, 551.087. MAYOR, IF YOU COULD CALL FOR A MOTION.

MAKE A MOTION.

SECOND. [INAUDIBLE] OK. I HAVE A MOTION BY VICTORIA AND A SECOND BY TAMARA.

ALL IN FAVOR. RECONVENE AT 10:14.

OK, MAYOR, IF AT THIS TIME, YOU CAN PLEASE CALL FOR A MOTION TO RECONVENE INTO OPEN SESSION. DO I HAVE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION. I GOT A MOTION BY VICTORIA A SECOND BY DAN.

ALL IN FAVOR. I RECONVENE AT 11:05.

NOW, MAYOR, IF YOU COULD, WE HAVE NO OTHER BUSINESS TO HANDLE AT THIS MEETING.

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DO I HAVE A MOTION? I GOT A MOTION BY RICK, AND SECOND BY DAN, CLOSE ENOUGH.

WE'RE OUT OF HERE AT 11:05.

THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

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