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[00:00:02]

GOOD MORNING, EVERYBODY.

I'M GOING TO OPEN THIS SESSION UP AT 9:04.

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

GOOD MORNING MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM 2A GENERAL, CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION AWARDING FISCAL YEAR 2023 HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX FUNDS FOR TOURISM ACTIVITIES AND

[A. Consider approval of a resolution awarding FY 2023 Hotel Occupancy Tax funds for tourism activities and supplemental requests related to the Hotel/Motel tax fund and receive direction on future potential projects. (Staff Presenter: Alex Philips, Economic Development Director)]

SUPPLEMENTAL REQUESTS RELATED TO THE HOTEL, MOTEL TAX FUND AND RECEIVE DIRECTION ON FUTURE POTENTIAL PROJECTS.

STAFF PRESENTER IS ALEX PHILLIPS, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR.

ALEX.

THANK YOU MONICA. GOOD MORNING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

ALEX PHILLIPS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR FOR THE CITY OF BURLESON.

THIS MORNING WE'RE GOING TO KIND OF GO OVER THE HOTEL MOTEL BUDGET, SOME SUPPLEMENTALS THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO INCLUDE IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET.

FINANCIAL OVERVIEW OF THE ACCOUNT, SOME DIFFERENT PROJECTS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

AND THEN ALSO THE HOT/MOT GRANT APPLICATIONS IS ON THE AGENDA TODAY FOR RESOLUTION FOR YOUR APPROVAL.

SO STOP ME ANYTIME IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS AS WE GO THROUGH IT, BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT I'M GOING TO SHARE WITH YOU GUYS.

SO FIRST AND FOREMOST, KIND OF SHOW YOU THE FIVE YEAR, THE OVERVIEW OF THE ACCOUNT.

AS YOU CAN SEE, THE FUND BALANCE IS PRETTY HEALTHY.

WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR PROJECTS WHERE WE CAN USE SOME OF THIS FUND BALANCE AND WE'RE GOING TO SHOW YOU SOME PROJECTS IN THIS PRESENTATION THAT WILL UTILIZE THIS FUND BALANCE FOR PROJECTS HERE IN THE COMMUNITY.

AS A SUPPLEMENTAL OVERVIEW KIND OF WHAT WE'RE SEEING FOR THIS NEXT YEAR THAT WE'D LIKE TO INCLUDE IN THE HOT/MOT BUDGET, THE BUILDING MAINTENANCE THAT'S $3000, THE MAINTENANCE THAT WE PROVIDE FOR THE HERITAGE MUSEUM HERE IN THE PLAZA.

WE WANT TO INCREASE THAT $3,000.

JUST THIS ONE YEAR WE'RE GOING TO BE REPLACING THE OLD BURLESON SIGN ABOVE THE ENTRANCE WITH MOSAIC TILES TO KIND OF GIVE IT SOME HISTORICAL PREVALENCE AND KIND OF BRING IT BACK TO NEW.

THE LAND LEASE, THE LEASES THAT WE HAVE WITH UNITED PACIFIC RAILROAD FOR ALL THE MAIN STREET PARKING LOTS, THE 4000 INCREASE IS JUST KIND OF LIKE AN ANNUAL INCREASE THAT WE SEE ON THE LEASES FOR THOSE LAND LEASES FOR THAT LAND.

AND THE HOT/MOT GRANTS, WE WE'VE SEEN AN INCREASE IN THE ASK FOR GRANTS OF 38,000.

SO AND I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THOSE HERE IN A MINUTE JUST TO KIND OF GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW AND REFRESHER COUNCIL APPROVED AN UPDATED POLICY FOR THE HOT/MOT APPLICATIONS BACK IN JANUARY OF 2020.

WE CREATED THIS SCORING RUBRIC THAT WAS ESTABLISHED.

WE ALSO ESTABLISHED A HOTEL PROMO CODE WITH LOCAL HOTELS REQUIRED AS PART OF THE COORDINATION IN A THREE YEAR, THE THREE YEAR MAXIMUM FOR APPLICATION SUBMISSION WAS REMOVED FROM THE POLICY.

THE APPLICATION PROCESS HAS BEEN, THEY SUBMIT TO US WE GOT 13 THIS YEAR REVIEW BY STAFF AND THEN WE PRESENT THOSE TO COUNCIL AMOUNT. THE AMOUNT THAT'S APPROVED BY COUNCIL IS INCORPORATED INTO THE UPCOMING BUDGET.

STAFF CONSIDERATIONS, IT'S THE KIND OF THE TWO PART TEST FROM THE TEXAS TAX CODE POTENTIAL FOR THIS EVENT TO CREATE AND SUPPORT TOURISM IN BURLESON EXPENDITURE MATCHING ONE OF THE SIX AUTHORIZED CATEGORIES.

PRIORITY, WE GIVE PRIORITY ON EVENTS THAT ARE MULTIDAY EVENTS OR GROWING INTO MULTIDAY EVENTS.

ALSO ALLOW ACCESS TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC AND THEN TOWARD EVENTS THAT ARE NEW OR STILL NEED SUPPORT FUNDING.

SO THIS IS A SPREADSHEET OF ALL THE APPLICATIONS THAT WE RECEIVED.

THE ONES HIGHLIGHTED ARE NEW EVENTS THAT COUNCIL HASN'T APPROVED IN THE PAST THAT I WILL SHOW TO YOU GUYS.

PROJECTED REVENUE IN THE HOT/MOT ACCOUNT THIS YEAR IS $476,462.

THE GRANT REQUEST TOTAL WAS 158,000.

IT'S APPROXIMATELY 33% OF THE FUND BALANCE OR THE PROJECTED REVENUE, WHICH IN THE UPDATED POLICY COUNCIL CHANGED THE POLICY TO UP TO 50% TO BE ALLOWED FOR HOT/MOT GRANT APPLICATIONS.

BY THE NUMBERS IN THE HOT/MOT BUDGET, PROJECTED FUND BALANCE IS $1,081,950 ANNUAL REVENUE AGAINST THAT 476,000. AND KIND OF GIVE YOU A YEAR BY YEAR OF THE AWARDS THAT WERE AWARDED 80,000 BACK IN 18.

IT DROPPED TO 56,520 IN 2020 FOR VARIOUS REASONS.

AND THEN LAST YEAR IT WAS UP TO 110,000.

AGAIN IN 2020 COUNCIL APPROVED THE UPDATED POLICY, ALLOCATING UP TO 50% OF PRIOR YEAR'S ANNUAL REVENUE FOR GRANT AWARDS.

SO ONE OF THE FIRST NEW ONES IS HARVEST MOON FESTIVAL.

IT DID ACTUALLY HAPPEN LAST YEAR, BUT THE EVENT HAPPENED AFTER THE APPLICATION PERIOD WAS OVER AND IT DIDN'T GET SUBMITTED FOR APPROVAL LAST YEAR.

SUPPORT FOR A NEWLY CREATED EVENT.

THE REQUESTED GRANT IS 5000, PROVIDES FUNDS TO EXTEND PROMOTION ADVERTISEMENT REACH TO SURROUNDING AREAS TO DRAW VISITORS FROM OUTSIDE THE METROPLEX.

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EARN TWO POINTS ON THE RUBRIC, ONE FOR YEARS HOSTED AND ONE FOR IT'S A TICKETED EVENT.

ONE OF THE OTHER NEW ONES BURLESON AREA CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, THE FULL CIRCLE WOMEN'S CONFERENCE, SUPPORT FOR OUR ANNUAL ALL DAY WOMEN'S CONFERENCE WITH WELL KNOWN SPEAKERS PROFESSIONALS HOSTED BY THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.

THEIR REQUESTED GRANT IS 10,000 AND THE [INAUDIBLE] PROVIDES FUNDS TO EXTEND PROMOTION ADVERTISEMENT TO THE SURROUNDING AREAS AS WELL, AND PROVIDES A PLATFORM FOR ANNUAL COMMUNITY HOSTED BY THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.

THE BTX FOOD TRUCK AND ARTS FESTIVAL.

THEY DID APPLY FOR, I DON'T THEY DID NOT APPLY FOR A GRANT LAST YEAR, BUT THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE ONE THIS YEAR.

IT GOT RAINED OUT AND THEN GOT MOVED AND EVENTUALLY CANCELED.

SO SUPPORT FOR A NEWLY CREATED EVENT REQUESTED GRANT IS 10,000, PROVIDES FOR SUPPORT FOR NEWLY CREATED ANNUAL EVENT PROMOTING THE ARTS.

EVENT ORGANIZERS INTEND TO PROVIDE COMMUNITY FESTIVAL THAT ENCOURAGES OUT-OF-TOWN VISITORS TARGETING AND ASPIRING ARTISTS AND FOOD CONNOISSEURS.

THE THIS ONE HERE, NORTH TEXAS JELLY STONE PARK, SEASONAL EVENT, SPECIFIC MARKETING PLAN, SUPPORT FOR ENHANCED SEARCH ENGINE MARKETING FOR SEASONAL EVENTS THAT ARE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.

AT JELLYSTONE, ADVERTISING A VARIETY OF EVENTS TOTALING 66 DAYS.

THE REQUESTED GRANT IS 50,000.

I KNOW THAT'S QUITE A BIT, BUT JUST SOME OF THE REASONING OF THAT 455,000 IN HOT REVENUE LAST FISCAL YEAR, JELLYSTONE BROUGHT IN 60% OF THAT FUND BALANCE, A LITTLE BIT OVER $273,000.

IT SUPPORTS ONLINE MARKETING GOOGLE ADS TO TARGET ONLINE TRAVELERS AND SHOPPERS SEEKING WEEKEND GETAWAYS AND DRAW THEM TO THE AREA FOR EXTENDED STAYS.

SO THESE ARE SIX OF THE SPECIFIC EVENTS THAT THEY WILL BE USING THIS MONEY FOR TO MARKET OUTSIDE OF OUR AREA, OUTSIDE OF A 50 PLUS MILE RADIUS, AND ATTRACT THEM TO STAY AT THE PARK WHILE ENJOYING VARIOUS ANNUAL EVENTS AND ACTIVITIES.

INCREASING AWARENESS AND STAYS IN TURN WOULD INCREASE BOOKINGS AT JELLYSTONE AGAIN IN FISCAL YEAR 2020.

OVER 56% OF THE RESERVATIONS BOOKED AT JELLYSTONE WERE FROM OUTSIDE OF THE 50 MILE RADIUS IN AND IN 2021 THAT NUMBER'S INCREASED TO 64%.

SO THEY ARE SEEING A TON OF PEOPLE COMING IN FROM OUTSIDE OF THE DFW METROPLEX STAYING HERE IN TOWN.

ANY QUESTIONS ON THE HOT/MOT APPLICATIONS BEFORE KIND OF MOVING INTO ANY OF THE BUDGET PROJECT CONSIDERATIONS? CAN WE GO BACK TO THE HOT/MOT AND FINISH THE REST OF YOUR STUFF? BECAUSE I CAN GO THROUGH ALL OF IT AND THEN COME BACK TO WHATEVER WE NEED TO.

GOING TO ASK WHAT ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO DO.

OKAY. OKAY. SO SOME OF THE FUND, BALANCED PROJECTS TO UTILIZE, SOME OF THE HOT/MOT FUND BALANCE PROJECTS THAT KIND OF GO THROUGH AND STAFF RECOMMENDS IS HOT/MOT FUND AUDIT, PUBLIC ART, WEST PARKING LOT OVER HERE ON THE WEST SIDE OF CITY HALL.

CITY WAYFINDING, BROADCAST CAMERAS FOR THE PLAZA, OLD TOWN PARKING SYSTEM.

SO THE HOT/MOT ACCOUNT AUDIT ESTIMATED COST IS ABOUT 10,000.

THIS WILL JUST ALLOW US TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE COLLECTING EVERYTHING WE SHOULD AND WE'RE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE STATE LAW AND REMITTING REVENUE TO THE COMPTROLLER.

THE PUBLIC ART.

WE WOULD UTILIZE 15% OF THE FUND BALANCE EACH YEAR AND BRING BACK A PUBLIC ART POLICY FOR COUNCIL TO CONSIDER IF THEY WANTED TO GO THIS ROUTE PER YEAR FOR PUBLIC ART WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.

THE WEST PARKING LOT REVAMP TO RESURFACE THIS TO MAKING IT LOOK AND FEEL LIKE ALL THE OTHER PARKING LOTS THAT ARE IN OLD TOWN.

THIS WOULD SERVE AS THE VISITOR'S PARKING THAT ARE COMING TO THE VISITOR CENTER.

SO IT WOULD QUALIFY FOR HOT/MOT MONEY FOR THE REVAMP OF THIS PARKING LOT.

CITY WAY CITYWIDE WAYFINDING.

THE ESTIMATED COST OF THIS IS UP TO 315,000 OR MORE, DEPENDING ON IF COUNCIL WANTED TO DO ANY ADD ONS FOR ADDITIONAL DIRECTIONAL SIGNS OR MAP KIOSKS. THIS WOULD BE CITYWIDE TO BRING POINTS OF INTEREST.

FIRE STATIONS, POLICE STATIONS, CITY HALL, GOLF COURSE, ETC.

FOR LOCAL TOURISTS THAT ARE VISITING OUR AREA.

ALEX, WOULD THIS INCLUDE THE MONUMENTS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, LIKE REDOING THE MONUMENTS COMING INTO THE CITY? NO, MA'AM, COULD IT? MAYBE I SHOULD HAVE SAID IT THAT WAY.

DOES IT AND COULD IT? NO, MA'AM. THE MONUMENTS THAT ARE THIS COMPANY, THE COMPANY THAT I GOT QUOTES FROM, DOES JUST WAYFINDING SIGNS.

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SO NOT MONUMENT SIGNS.

THE HOT/MOT MONEY CANNOT BE UTILIZED FOR MONUMENT SIGNS.

ONLY WAYFINDING. YES, MA'AM.

OKAY. THANK YOU. WE DO BELIEVE THE ENTRYWAY SIGNS CAN BE PAID FOR OUT OF 4B FUNDS.

AND SO WE BRING YOU BACK, HAVE A PRESENTATION, I THINK, IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS TO GIVE YOU SOME OPTIONS ON THAT.

I'VE ASKED THAT EXACT SAME QUESTION, SO I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT IT UP, BECAUSE I'VE ASKED IT A COUPLE OF TIMES IN MY MEETINGS WITH BRIAN, BUT ALSO WOULD THESE REPLACE THOSE SIGNS.

I KNOW WE HAVE A LEASE ON THOSE SIGNS THAT SAY THEY DO SAY FIRE STATION AND I THINK ONE OF THEM MAY SAY FIRE STATION, PROBABLY THE ONE OFF OF ALL FERRY BECAUSE OF ITS LOCATION.

BUT WOULD THESE I MEAN, I THINK THAT WOULD BE SUPER BUSY TO EVEN CONSIDER THIS UNTIL THOSE ARE THAT LEASE IS UP AND REMOVED.

WE DON'T DISAGREE THAT'S WHY WE DIDN'T RECOMMEND IT AT THIS TIME.

THANKS. PLAZA BROADCAST CAMERAS.

ESTIMATED COST OF $200,000 PROVIDE ABILITY FOR HIGH QUALITY, LIVE STREAM OF PLAZA EVENTS .

PARADES, HOT SOUNDS OF SUMMER, TREE LIGHTING.

LIVE STREAMING CAN BE SHOWN ACROSS SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS AND THE CITY'S CABLE TV CHANNEL.

AS YOU CAN SEE, BACK IN 2021, THE FREE CONCERT HAD A BIG VIEWERSHIP.

AND THE IMAGE THERE TO THE BOTTOM RIGHT IS THE IMAGE OF THE CAMERAS THAT WOULD BE INSTALLED AT THE PLAZA.

THIS ONE IS REALLY PIQUES MY INTEREST.

WE HAD OVER 5000 VIEWS.

I MEAN, COLIN HAD THE BEST SETUP HE COULD AT THE BACK OF THE CONCERT, WHICH I THINK WAS AWESOME.

IT WAS GREAT WATCHING THE FEED.

PEOPLE WERE COMMENTING, BUT THIS IN PARTICULAR REALLY HITS HOME BECAUSE I'VE HAD A NUMBER OF FAMILIES WITH, WHETHER IT'S AN ELDERLY SENIOR THAT WANTED TO PARTICIPATE IN THE CHRISTMAS FESTIVITIES AND COULDN'T OR CHILDREN WITH AUTISM THAT WOULD LOVE TO SEE AND DANCE TO THE MUSIC.

BUT THE CROWDS OR THE INTENSITY OF THE MUSIC AND IN PERSON CAN BE CAN BE DIFFICULT OR STRAINING OR STRESSFUL.

AND SO I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING I WOULD I WOULD REALLY LOVE FOR US TO CONSIDER BECAUSE WE DO THE THE IDEA OF THE PLAZA IS THAT IT'S THE COMMUNITY'S LIVING ROOM.

AND WHILE EVERYONE CAN'T BE THERE IN PERSON, THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO ACCESS IT.

WHEN WE'RE HAVING EVENTS THERE, WHETHER IT'S A CONCERT OR JULY 4TH PARADE, WHATEVER IT MAY BE, THAT'S PASSING THROUGH THE PLAZA, I THINK IT WOULD BE AWESOME TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO STREAM IT AND GIVE EVERYONE ACCESS TO IT.

I GOT TO AGREE WITH THAT.

I'VE HAD A LOT OF THOSE REQUESTS AND I HAVE ONE OF THOSE AUTISTIC PEOPLE THAT DOESN'T DO WELL WITH CROWDS SOMETIMES.

SO I'D LIKE TO GET MY MY NAME ON THAT ONE, TOO.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

OLD TOWN PARKING SYSTEM.

ESTIMATED COST IS ABOUT $100,000.

AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE IMAGES, IT'S BASICALLY COUNT YOU AS YOU'RE AS YOU'RE GOING IN.

YOU KIND OF ROLL OVER A SPEEDBUMP.

IT TAKES A PARKING SPOT AWAY AND THEN WHEN YOU LEAVE, IT ADDS A PARKING SPOT TO THE DISPLAYS THAT WOULD BE ADDED TO THE PARKING LOTS.

IT'S ABOUT 10,000, 10 TO 12000 PER LOT IN OLD TOWN TO SHOW THE ACCESSIBILITY AND AVAILABILITY OF PARKING IN OLD TOWN.

WHAT'S THE UPKEEP ON THAT? SO THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL THE 100,000 KIND OF INCLUDES MAYBE SOME MAINTENANCE, THE MAINTENANCE COSTS EVERY YEAR OF JUST COMING OUT.

I THINK IT WAS LIKE FIVE GRAND A YEAR FOR THE MAINTENANCE OF IF WE DID ALL OF THESE PARKING LOTS THAT ARE THAT ARE LISTED HERE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE.

WHILE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PARKING.

I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS APPLICABLE AND WE KNOW WE'RE NOT DOING IT RIGHT NOW WHEN WE LAY THAT OUT TO EVERYBODY.

BUT TO GO BACK TO THE VALET WHEN THE TIME COMES, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT COULD FALL INTO THIS CATEGORY FOR SPENDING OF MONEY? I'M TRYING TO GET CREATIVE WITH THE MONEY THAT WE HAVE THAT ARE IN CERTAIN BUCKETS.

GO AHEAD. LOOK TO THE ATTORNEY.

THANK YOU, SIR. I WOULD SAY NO.

I SHOULD HAVE LOOKED AT YOU. SORRY.

YEAH, I THINK WITH THE VALET, WE USE TIP FUNDS TO UTILIZE THE VALET THIS LAST TIME.

SO KIND OF TAKING THOSE PROJECTS AND LOOKING AT THE PROJECT OPTION ALLOCATIONS, YOU CAN SEE KIND OF HOW IT IMPACTS THE THE BOTTOM LINE.

THEY INDEED FUND BALANCE OF INCLUDING THE HOT MOD AUDIT.

PUBLIC ART WOULD BE 162,000 NEXT YEAR.

AND THEN AS WE GO FORWARD, IF IT'S 15%, YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THOSE PROJECTIONS.

NOW, IF WE ADDED THE 200,000 FOR THE CLOSET CAMERAS, YOU KNOW, YOU WOULD TAKE THOSE AND YOU WOULD BE LOOKING AT A HALF A MILLION FUND BALANCE THERE ON THE BOTTOM LINE MOVING FORWARD. SO GO AHEAD.

WHAT I MENTIONED, I MEAN, I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH LISA DUELLO OR NO.

IS SHE HERE? NO, SHE IS.

DIDN'T WE TALK ABOUT ART AND YOU'RE PUTTING THAT IN YOUR BUDGET, SO CAN WE REMOVE THAT OUT OF YOUR BUDGET SINCE WE CAN USE THE MONEY FOR ART HERE?

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AWESOME. JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE.

HEY, I'M AGAIN TRYING TO BE CREATIVE WITH OUR SPENDING, AND WE DON'T NEED TO PULL IT OUT OF PUBLIC WORKS WHEN WE CAN USE IT FROM HERE.

YES, MA'AM. MY QUESTION, YOU KNOW, I LOOK AT THESE PROJECTS, THE ONE GLARING THING THAT WE DON'T HAVE AND IT KEEPS GETTING ASKED FOR.

AND YOU CAN DEFINITELY ANSWER IF THIS CAN'T BE USED HERE, BUT CAN WE NOT USE THIS FOR A CONVENTION CENTER? I MEAN, I WOULD THINK THIS WOULD WORK OUT REALLY WELL.

AND I KNOW THERE'S A GLARING NEED IN OUR COMMUNITY FOR THAT THAT WOULD THAT WOULD BRING IN PEOPLE AND THAT WOULD HELP FUND THIS THAT WOULD HELP ACTUALLY INCREASE THE BALANCES HERE AS WE HAVE A CONVENTION CENTER, WHICH WILL INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF HOTEL MOTEL STAYS.

YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW, THE ONLY ONLY PLACE REALLY WE HAVE A STATE IS JELLYSTONE.

WE HAVE A COUPLE OF HOTELS DOWN BY MIRANDA'S, BUT I'M NOT SURE HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE COMING IN FROM OUT OF TOWN TO STAY THERE.

WELL, I THINK YOU COULD.

SORRY. GO AHEAD. EXCUSE ME. BUT YES, THE ANSWER IS YOU COULD ABSOLUTELY USE IT FOR A CONVENTION CENTER.

WE COULD LOOK AT IF THE COUNCIL WANTED TO TRY TO BUILD THAT BALANCE UP FOR SOME TYPE OF INVESTMENT IN A CENTER LIKE THAT, YOU COULD DO IT, BUT THAT WOULD BE POTENTIALLY MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO BUILD IT ON OUR OWN.

OR PROBABLY THE BETTER OUTCOME WOULD BE FOR US TO TRY TO PARTNER WITH A NEW HOTEL COMING IN TOWN TO TRY TO DO A PARTNERSHIP TO BUILD A CONVENTION CENTER.

WHICH HOTEL? COUNCIL MEMBER STANFORD I THINK THAT IS THE DESIRE TO WORK WITH JACKSON SHORE, HIDDEN CREEK GOLF COURSE, WITH THE RFP AND DOING THOSE FEASIBILITY STUDIES THAT WILL BE KICKING OFF REAL SOON IS TO PARTNER WITH THEM AND THE FUND COULD BE UTILIZED FOR SOME TERMS OF INCENTIVES OR HOW WE DO AN AGREEMENT WITH THOSE GUYS TO CREATE THAT SPACE.

AND THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I WAS LEANING.

I KNOW THAT WE CAN WE CAN DEFINITELY UTILIZE SOME OF THESE DIFFERENT FUNDS SO WE'RE NOT HAVING TO HIT THE THE PROPERTY TAXES.

I DON'T WANT TO I DON'T WANT TO MESS WITH PROPERTY TAXES.

SO I DEFINITELY WANT TO HIT THESE KIND OF FUNDS LIKE THIS TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

AND I DON'T WANT TO I DON'T WANT TO LOOK AT THIS AND SAY, OH, GREAT, LET'S SEE HOW WE CAN SPEND ALL THE MONEY.

I WOULD RATHER LOOK AT THIS AND SAY, HOW CAN WE INVEST FOR THE FUTURE OF OUR CITY AND PROVIDE THE NEEDS FOR OUR COMMUNITY? I DON'T DISAGREE. YEAH, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT A CONVENTION CENTER, I KNOW THAT THE JACKSON SHAW PROPERTY HAS A HOTEL AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE CONVENTION CENTER, THEM HAVING THEIR OWN BALLROOMS AND SUCH.

BUT THE IDEA OF ACTUALLY HAVING OUR OWN CONVENTION CENTER FOR BURLESON NOT WITH HOTELS BUT A PLACE TO HAVE BIG EVENTS.

TO ME, THAT IS, IT BRINGS IN MONEY.

WE HAVE VERY LIMITED WAYS THAT WE CAN MAKE MONEY AND THAT THAT COULD MAKE MONEY FOR US.

SO THAT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN JUST BRINGING IN THE HOTELS THAT HAVE SOME BALLROOMS BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANYWHERE IN TOWN TO HOST BIG EVENT OTHER THAN OUT OF CHURCH. I KNOW WE'VE TALKED BEFORE ALSO ABOUT A COMMUNITY ART CENTER, HOWEVER YOU TITLE IT, BUT I HAVE A HESITATION ABOUT THE PARTNERSHIPS WITH THE HOTEL AND CONFERENCE CENTER BECAUSE THEN IT IT GIVES THE PERCEPTION THAT WE PARTNERED WITH ONE HOTEL, BUT WE'RE USING ALL OF THE HOTEL AND MOTELS IN THE AREA THAT PAY INTO THIS FUND TO THEN BENEFIT ONE HOTEL.

I JUST THE OPTICS OF THAT AND IT JUST DOESN'T SEEM TO TO BODE WELL.

IT DOES ALSO KIND OF TIE OUR HANDS.

WE ARE TIED IN WITH THAT HOTEL.

I THINK I WILL INTERJECT REAL QUICK.

I THINK IF THERE WAS AN AGREEMENT, WE WOULD BE UTILIZING HOT HOT/MOT FUND DOLLARS THAT THAT PARTICULAR PLACE WOULD BE BRINGING IN AS INCENTIVES, NOT MAYBE THE FUND BALANCE OF THIS FUND.

I WOULD JUST LIKE TO MAKE SURE IT'S BIG ENOUGH.

IT'S NICE ENOUGH. IT HAS MULTIPLE MEETING AREAS.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN HOST A MAJOR EVENT TO BRING IN.

WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO HOST OUR OWN CHAMBER GALAS OR I MEAN, I EVEN THINK OF HOW MANY DANCE STUDIOS I BROUGHT THIS UP SEVERAL TIMES ARE IN THIS COMMUNITY AND WE HAVE TO GO TO CLEBURNE AND RENT THEIR CONVENTION SPACE TO HAVE OUR RECITALS OR OUR SHOWS.

AND THAT'S THOSE ARE THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE VENTURE OUT OF THIS COMMUNITY, WE'RE EATING DINNER AND SUPPORTING OTHER LOCAL.

AND SO I'D LOVE TO WE'VE TALKED I KNOW WE'VE ALL TALKED ABOUT IT SEVERAL TIMES, HAVING A SPACE THAT WE COULD HAVE, EVEN THE ROTARY, A VENUE THAT YOU COULD SEPARATE ROOMS, THE ROTARY CLUBS ARE KIND OF AT CAPACITY BECAUSE THERE IS NO SPACE OTHER THAN A CHURCH.

AND YOU HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT CATERING AND ALL THESE DIFFERENT PIECES TO THESE MEETINGS AND THINGS.

SO THERE JUST ISN'T MEETING SPACE.

YEAH, WE TALKED IN OUR LEADERSHIP RETREAT, WE DID ABOUT THE ART CENTER AND I REALLY LIKE GOING BACK TO THAT CONCEPT OF COMBO OF SOME SORT OF CONVENTION CENTER, ART CENTER THAT CAN AND A THEATER.

I SEE I'VE HAD SEVERAL PEOPLE SAY SOMETHING TO ME ABOUT A COMMUNITY THEATER, AND I KNOW YOU PARTICIPATED IN IT WHEN WE WERE DOING IT USING THE BURLESON HIGH SCHOOL A LONG TIME

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AGO. BUT, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE THINGS THAT WOULD BRING PEOPLE TO OUR CITY AND WITH HAVING A HOTEL IN TOWN AND HOTELS AND OF COURSE, JELLYSTONE, THEY COULD COMBO A THEATER EVENT WITH GOING TO JELLYSTONE OR SOMETHING ELSE, DEPENDING ON THE TIME OF YEAR.

I DEFINITELY THINK THAT WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT HOW DO WE USE THIS MONEY? BECAUSE WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS, I REALIZE WE'RE LOOKING AT MILLIONS IF WE DO A HOTEL AND ALL THAT OTHER STUFF, BUT WE'RE STACKING UP MONEY IN THIS FUND AND WE COULD POUR INTO IT WITH OTHER FUNDS THAT WE HAVE THAT ARE LIMITED WHAT WE CAN DO WITH THOSE FUNDS AS WELL, WE SEEM TO BE HAVING A BIG GROWTH IN SOME OF THESE FUND BALANCES THAT HAVE SPECIFIC USES THAT WE WE HAVE SOME NEEDS TO BRING, YOU KNOW, CERTAIN ENTERTAINMENT, SO TO SPEAK, TO OUR TOWN.

YEAH, I CERTAINLY GET THE SENTIMENT THERE.

AND IF THAT'S A DESIRE OF COUNCIL, WE CAN BRING YOU BACK SOME OPTIONS AND A PLAN OF HOW TO FUND IT A LITTLE BIT LATER IN THE AGENDA, ALEX IS GOING TO BE GOING THROUGH THE EDC STRATEGIC PLAN AND IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT AN EVENT CENTER OR MULTI PURPOSE TYPE EVENT CENTER, THAT'S AN ELIGIBLE USE OF 4A FUNDS AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT HOW TO DO THAT.

YOU'VE GOT TO BUILD THE FACILITY, WHICH IS VERY EXPENSIVE, AS YOU KNOW.

BUT THE OTHER THING IS THE OPERATING COST IN THE FACILITY.

AND MY EXPERIENCE WITH CONVENTION CENTERS IS THAT THEY'RE VERY EXPENSIVE TO OPERATE.

THEY'RE TYPICALLY LOSS LEADERS FOR OTHER ACTIVITIES THAT YOU HAVE, AND THAT'S WHY YOU TYPICALLY PARTNER WITH SOME HOTEL, BECAUSE THEY HAVE AN INTEREST IN BUSINESS INTEREST TO HELP MAKE IT WORK.

BUT WE CAN BRING YOU BACK ALL THOSE OPTIONS.

AND IF THAT'S A GOAL, WE CAN START LOOKING AT HOW TO DO THAT WITH 4A FUNDS AND POTENTIALLY HOT/MOT FUNDS AS WELL.

AND ALSO, SINCE HOT/MOT FUNDS ARE APPLICABLE TO HISTORICAL RESTORATION AND PRESERVATION, I'D LIKE TO BRING THE GYMNASIUM.

I WAS GOING TO SAY I WAS I WAS THINKING THAT ALREADY, I'M NEVER GOING TO STOP.

I'M HERE 15 YEARS I'VE BEEN HARPING ON THIS.

RONNIE HAS BEEN AGAINST IT.

SOONER OR LATER, ONE OF US WILL WIN.

BUT NO, I THINK IT'S RIGHT IN LINE.

AND IT ADDS TO SOME CONSIDERATIONS WE'VE HAD ABOUT LARGER DEVELOPMENT SURROUNDING THAT.

BUT THIS BALANCE IS IT CONTINUES TO GROW, COULD BE USED.

AND THAT COULD BE YOUR ART CENTER, YOUR THEATER CENTER.

IT'S AN APPROPRIATE BUILDING, I THINK, FOR THAT.

YES, IT IS GOING TO BE AN EXPENSIVE RESTORATION.

BUT THERE'S A HISTORICAL ASPECT.

THERE'S HISTORY AND IT'S MULTIPLE USE.

WE COULD DO THE THEATER AND THERE'S JUST SO MANY OPPORTUNITIES THERE.

AND IT HAS THAT OLD TOWN HOME FEEL OF LIKE THIS.

THIS HAS BEEN HERE. THERE'S HISTORY THERE, BUT THERE'S ALSO NEW LIFE BREATHING INTO IT.

YEAH. YEAH. AND IT DOESN'T CONFLICT WITH OTHER INITIATIVES THAT WE'VE GOT FOR THE AREA EITHER.

SO I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA TO STAY.

I'M BRINGING IT UP. YEAH, I'M GONNA TURN HIS MICROPHONE OFF.

WELL, NO, I'M. I'M JUST MAKING A COMMENT.

WE DON'T OWN THAT PROPERTY IN THE SCHOOL, MOST CERTAINLY, BUT WE COULD GET GUIDELINES FOR THEM TO SELL ANYTHING.

SO AND NOW YOU WANT TO KNOW MY OPINION? TEAR THE DAMN THING DOWN AND START OVER AGAIN.

I KNOW ALL THERE IS TO KNOW ABOUT THAT BUILDING.

AND IT'S NOT THAT YOU WERE HERE AT 36.

TRUE ENOUGH TO DO THAT NOW.

IT'S A GREAT IDEA.

IT'S A GREAT IDEA AS FAR AS THE THEATER, JUST NOT THERE IT WOULD BE A WE'RE GOING TO NAME IT THE RONNIE JOHNSON PERFORMING ARTS CENTER.

I KNOW. I KNOW.

YOU'RE NOT GOING TO LISTEN. I KNOW YOU WILL NEVER GET ME IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT.

I REALLY BELIEVE THAT THAT TEAMING UP WITH THE HOTEL WOULD BE THE WAY TO GO, BECAUSE NOT ONLY ARE WE GOING TO USE IT, YOU'RE GOING TO PROMOTE IT.

SO WE'RE GETTING THEIR ABILITY TO REACH OUT AND BRING MORE CUSTOMERS IN AND MORE PEOPLE INTO BURLESON.

ONE THING I LIKE ABOUT RONNIE THERE, THERE'S NO GRAY AREAS.

I REALLY I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HIS WHOLE HEAD IS GRAY.

OH, SORRY.

I JUST SAID THE POSITIVE THING ABOUT ALL YOU FOLKS IS YOU DON'T HAVE TO WONDER WHAT IS ON MY MIND.

I'LL TELL YOU. NO PROBLEM WHATSOEVER.

AMEN. OKAY.

LET'S GO AHEAD. SO KIND OF GOING INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL OF LIKE THE HOT/MOT BUDGET AND THE EXPENDITURES.

I MEAN, YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THIS GETS DOWN TO THE LINE ITEMS, JUST KIND OF SHOWING YOU THE WHOLE BUDGET AS A WHOLE.

I'LL POINT OUT ON THE TOURISM PROMOTION THIS NEXT YEAR, WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING A TOURISM VIDEO THAT WILL BE CITYWIDE HIGHLIGHTING MAINSTAY, JELLYSTONE, [INAUDIBLE] COMING ALL KINDS OF AMENITIES THAT WE HAVE IN TOWN TO BE A DESTINATION PLACE.

MORE BROCHURES OUT TO THE STATE ENTRY WAYS BECAUSE WE DROPPED THAT BECAUSE OF COVID.

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NOW WE'RE GOING TO INCREASE THAT BACK.

SO WE'RE DOING A LOT MORE LOOKING AT POTENTIAL LIKE SOME BILLBOARDS, GETTING SOME COSTS OF THAT AND DOING SOME BILLBOARDS THAT ARE WAY OUTSIDE OF OUR AREA TO MAYBE DRAW SOME PEOPLE INTO INTO THE COMMUNITY.

PROJECT EVENT EXPENSE, THE HOT SOUNDS OF SUMMER, THAT 40,000 PARKS UTILIZES THAT TO BOOK BANDS OUT OF THIS ACCOUNT.

SEASONAL DECORATIONS, THE 15,000, THAT'S THE THE PHOTO OPS YOU KNOW THE BIG CHAIR DAISY CHAIR THAT WE PUT OUT THERE.

WE TRY TO PUT IT IN BRONZE OFFICE FIRST, BUT BEFORE WE PUT IT OUT THERE, THE HEART FOR VALENTINE'S DAY, YOU KNOW, THE WREATH THAT WE HAVE AT CHRISTMAS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE, THE HOLIDAY LIGHTING, THE 23,000 FOR HOLIDAY LIGHTING.

THAT'S ALL THE CHRISTMAS LIGHTS, THE CHRISTMAS TREE, ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF FOR OLD TOWN.

SO JUST KIND OF WANT TO SHOW YOU ALL THE LINE ITEM.

EVERYTHING IS PUT TOGETHER FOR THE HOT FUNDS.

SO I'M HERE FOR QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.

BUT TO APPROVE, DENY OR MODIFY RESOLUTION AWARDING THE 22-23 HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX FUND GRANTS IS PRESENTED TO COUNCIL IN THE AMOUNT OF 158,000 AND THEN JUST BE ABLE TO GIVE STAFF DIRECTION ON THOSE PROJECTS FOR THE HOT FUNDS, THE BUDGET PROJECTS OF WHAT YOU WANT TO INCLUDE, WHAT YOU DON'T WANT TO INCLUDE. WAS THERE A PROJECT THAT THE PLAZA CAMBRIDGE DO WE WANT TO INCLUDE THAT? IS THAT THE WHAT COUNCIL WANTS US TO DO? SO I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, CLARIFICATIONS AND SOME OF THE EVENT ORGANIZERS FOR SOME OF THE HOT FUND GRANTS ARE HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AS WELL.

SO I DO WANT TO BEFORE WE ADDRESS THE APPLICATIONS, I WANTED TO ALSO MAKE A SUGGESTION/REQUEST.

I NOTICED THAT THERE WAS ONLY A TWO WEEK TIME FRAME, THAT THIS APPLICATION WAS OPEN, AND THE ONLY PLACE THAT IT WAS ADVERTISED WAS ON THE CITY OF BURLESON'S FACEBOOK PAGE.

AND THERE WAS ONE POST I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THE APPLICATIONS WERE OPEN.

I HAD PEOPLE WHO COULD HAVE APPLIED FOR THIS AND I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THEY WERE OPEN.

SO I THINK THAT WE NEED TO LEAVE IT OPEN A LITTLE BIT LONGER, NUMBER ONE, AND DO SOME BETTER PROMOTION OF IT, WHICH WE KNOW WE'VE HAD THIS ONGOING DISCUSSION ABOUT COMMUNICATION BEING AN ISSUE.

SO JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT FORWARD.

I ALSO I WANTED TO REMOVE THE CASH GRANT OPTION FROM THE APPLICATION.

I BELIEVE THAT EVERYTHING SHOULD BE REIMBURSABLE.

I THINK THAT WE SHOULD HAVE TO SEE ALL THE RECEIPTS AND WE SHOULD BE BEFORE MONEY IS GIVEN OUT, THAT THERE'S REQUIREMENTS THAT THEY HAVE TO FILL AND PROVIDE THE RECEIPTS TO RECEIVE THE MONEY.

THERE'S ONLY ONE APPLICATION THAT GETS A CASH GRANT.

THAT'S THE HERITAGE MUSEUM.

SO IF WE REMOVE THAT, THEN THEY WON'T GET THEIR MONEY 1ST OF OCTOBER LIKE WE USUALLY DO, AND THEN WE CAN GET WITH THEIR BOARD FOR REIMBURSABLE IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT.

THAT MAKES SENSE TO ME.

TO ME, I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION WHATSOEVER ABOUT THE HERITAGE THING.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANT TO JACK WITH THE POLICY OVER THAT ONE THING, BUT I, I GUESS IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL CAN PUT IN A STIPULATION EACH TIME WE APPROVE THIS ONCE A YEAR AND JUST STATING THAT OTHER THAN THE HERITAGE FOUNDATION THAT ALL OF THE HOT/MOT GRANTS ARE BASED ON REIMBURSABLE POST EVENT AFTER RECEIPTS. I THINK THE POLICY OR THE APPLICATION KIND OF MAYBE CONTRADICTS ITSELF AS WELL TO SAY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALREADY TELLING ALL THE EVENT ORGANIZERS THAT IT'S REIMBURSABLE.

SO I THINK WE JUST TAKE OUT THE CASH GRANT PORTION ON THE APPLICATION.

THE HERITAGE FOUNDATION KIND OF STANDS ON ITS OWN AND THEN WE KIND OF MOVE FORWARD FROM THERE.

I AGREE. THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD WAS ABOUT THE POINT SYSTEM.

I WASN'T HERE WHEN THEY PUT THAT PLACE IN OR THE RUBRIC DOES DOES THAT WHAT DOES THAT DO? DOES IT WEED OUT ANYBODY WHO APPLIED OR WHAT'S THE PURPOSE OF IT? TO GIVE COUNCIL POINTS OF WHAT IS EARNED FROM THESE EVENTS? BECAUSE COUNCIL CREATED THE RUBRIC.

SO I WOULD SAY THERE WAS QUITE A BIT OF DISCUSSION ON THIS A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO ABOUT HOW TO COME UP WITH A SCORING SYSTEM THAT WOULD HELP YOU PRIORITIZE APPLICATIONS. WE DON'T FIND IT TO BE PARTICULARLY USEFUL RIGHT NOW.

MAYBE IT'S THE HONEST ANSWER.

BUT IF YOU IF YOU WERE TO GO BACK TO SLIDE, I THINK SLIDE SIX, ALEX, IF YOU WERE TO SAY YOU ONLY WANT TO AWARD 90,000 OR $80,000, WHAT WOULD BE A BASIS FOR YOU TO PRIORITIZE THOSE? YOU WOULD HAVE SOME BASIS WITH SOME OF THE POINTS.

SORRY. YEAH, BUT IF YOU GO BACK TO THE SLIDE SIX OR YOU GOT THEM ALL LINED UP RIGHT THERE.

SO YOU CAN SEE SOME ARE HIGHER PRIORITY THAN OTHERS, BUT THERE'S MANY THAT ARE IN THAT TWO POINT RANGE.

SO YOU WOULD PROBABLY HAVE SOME DIFFICULTY DIFFERENTIATING THOSE.

BUT THE ONES THAT WE WOULD PRIORITIZE BASED ON THIS RUBRIC IS THE ONES WITH SIX POINTS OR FOUR POINTS.

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THOSE WOULD GO FIRST AND THE OTHERS WOULD FALL AFTER THAT.

BUT IT'S VERY SUBJECTIVE.

EACH OF THESE EVENTS ARE SUBJECTIVE, AND I THINK THAT WAS THE COUNCIL'S DISCUSSION BACK THEN, WAS TO TRY TO FIND A WAY TO PUT SOME METHOD TO HOW YOU PRIORITIZE THEM.

BUT IT'S AGAIN, RIGHT NOW WE DON'T FEEL LIKE AND I THINK WHEN THE RUBRIC WAS PUT IN THERE, I'M GOING TO KEEP SAYING RUBRIC JUST BECAUSE OF ROBERT BACK IN THE DAY.

BUT THE FUND BALANCE WASN'T AS HEALTHY AS IT IS TODAY.

SO THAT 50% RULE, IF WE WENT OVER THE 50%, IT GAVE COUNCIL SOMETHING TO LOOK AT, A POINT SYSTEM TO PRIORITIZE, LIKE BRIAN SAID, TO AWARD THE AWARDS.

BUT NOW THE FUND BALANCE IS WE'RE NOT GETTING THE REQUESTS FOR EVEN UP TO THAT 50% THRESHOLD OF THE PROJECTED REVENUE WHERE THE POINT SYSTEM MAKES SENSE.

I DO HAVE SOME I DO HAVE SOME CONCERNS ON IT.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND IT'S REIMBURSABLE, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT WE'RE REIMBURSING IS THE COST.

I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE PUTTING MONEY BACK IN SOMEBODY'S POCKET FOR THEM.

WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS IF A IF A COMPANY HAS AND I'LL USE LOCAL OFFICE AS AN EXAMPLE AND IT'S NOT A KNOCK ON LOCAL LIFE, BUT LOCAL LIFE PUBLISHES A MAGAZINE AND PAYING FOUR OR $5,000 FOR AN AD IN LOCAL LIFE IS NOT WHAT LOCAL LIFE IS, COST IS. I'M OKAY WITH REIMBURSING THE COST OF WHAT IT WHAT IT COSTS FOR THE INK AND THE PAPER TO ACTUALLY RUN THAT QUARTER PAGE AD.

BUT I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE, YOU KNOW, HELPING TO SUPPLEMENT THEIR INCOME, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS THAT ANY OF THESE EVENTS, ACTUALLY, ANY GRANT MONEY, BE DONE SPECIFICALLY TO COVER THE COST OF PUTTING IT ON OR NOT NOT PROFIT MARGINS FROM THE CITY, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

OKAY. WELL, IF THEY'RE TURNING IN REIMBURSEMENT INFORMATION, IT'S AND IT CAN'T COVER THE COST OF THE EVENT.

IT CAN ONLY COVER THE ADVERTISING.

ADVERTISING. SO.

I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

BUT THEY ARE TURNING LIKE EYE COMPLETELY.

AND IT'S SAYING AND I HEAR IT.

I MEAN, IT WILL BE DIFFICULT FOR US TO VERIFY WHAT THE COST OF SOMETHING IS IF WE'RE NOT THE ONES DOING IT PERSONALLY.

WELL, IF THEY'RE IF THEY'RE REIMBURSING, THEY SHOULD BE SUBMITTING RECEIPTS.

THEY SUBMIT RECEIPTS.

AND THOSE RECEIPTS SHOULD REFLECT WHAT THEY PAID OUT.

AND YES, SIR, AND THAT IS ON THE APPLICANT TO TURN IN THOSE RECEIPTS AND WE DEEM THOSE THE COST OF THE ADVERTISING.

BUT I DON'T WANT TO SEE A RECEIPT FROM JIMMY STANFORD PAID TO JIMMY STANFORD IS MY POINT.

YES, SIR. SO LET ME FOLLOW UP ON THEN RESTATE THIS.

THAT I KNOW A LOT OF THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE SUBMITTED THESE APPLICATIONS.

I RESPECT THEM.

I RESPECT YOU GUYS, YOU LADIES MOSTLY.

SORRY. AND I HOPE THAT YOU WILL RESPECT THAT.

I HAVE TO ASK THESE QUESTIONS BECAUSE I'M TRYING TO DO MY JOB AND TRYING TO COVER ALL THE BASES.

SO, TIFFANY, I'M GOING TO SPEAK TO YOU AT LOCAL LIFE FIRST BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT THREE EVENTS HERE.

AND PRIMARILY THE BIGGEST PORTION OF THE MONEY YOU'RE ASKING FOR IS ADVERTISING IN YOUR OWN MAGAZINE.

HOWEVER, OUR GOAL WITH THESE EVENTS IS TO BRING IN PEOPLE FROM OUTSIDE OF THE AREA, AND IT'S EVEN STATED IN THE APPLICATION THAT THE GOAL IS TO ADVERTISE OUTSIDE OF HERE.

SO FOR ME, I'M STRUGGLING AND I THINK THIS IS WHAT YOU WERE TRYING TO SAY AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT I'M STRUGGLING WITH THE CONCEPT THAT WE'RE GOING TO FUND ADVERTISING IN YOUR OWN MAGAZINE THAT GOES BACK TO YOU.

AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT, WE HAVE.

I DON'T KNOW. WE HAD 13 APPLICATIONS.

YES. I DON'T HAVE THE TOTAL NUMBER.

WAIT, HOLD ON. ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, SIX OF THOSE 13 OUTSIDE OF YOURS.

SO THAT'S NINE TOTAL HAVE ACTUALLY ALLOCATED FUNDS TO YOUR COMPANY AS WELL.

FOR A TOTAL OF $21,000.

SO THE BUT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE BRINGING IN PEOPLE FROM OUTSIDE THE AREA TO STAY IN HOTELS AND TO THAT'S KIND OF THE POINT.

BUT WE'RE ADVERTISING IN A LOCAL MAGAZINE.

SO THERE'S TWO FOLD QUESTIONS THERE.

AND IF IF YOU CAN SHE COME AND ANSWER AND ANSWER THAT.

OH, PLEASE.

SORRY, OK.

SO OBVIOUSLY, IF YOU'RE GOING TO PUT ON A LOCAL EVENT, YOU WANT YOUR LOCAL PEOPLE TO COME.

THERE'S NO OTHER PRINT ADVERTISING IN THE AREA.

SO ARE YOU JUST SUPPOSED TO DO SOCIAL MEDIA AND THAT'S IT? I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT OTHER WAY ALL THESE PEOPLE THAT ARE APPLYING, THEY WANT PEOPLE HERE LOCALLY TO COME AS WELL.

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I UNDERSTAND THAT THE TOURISM, BUT WHEN I FILLED OUT THE APPLICATION, I ASKED THAT QUESTION AND SO I WAS TOLD IT WAS OKAY. THAT'S WHY I PUT IT IN THERE THE WAY I DID.

BUT IT DOESN'T ALWAYS HAVE TO BE LOCAL LIFE.

NOW. YES.

PRINT ADVERTISING, AS YOU KNOW, IS THE MOST EXPENSIVE THING TO DO TODAY.

I CANNOT BREAK DOWN THE COST BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY COSTS THAT COMES INTO THAT.

THERE'S DESIGNER, THERE'S THE POSTAGE, THERE'S THE PAPER.

EVERYTHING HAS GONE UP 10%, BUT THE POSTAGE IS ALREADY PAID.

WHEN YOU SEND OUT YOUR MAGAZINE, YOU'RE ALREADY PAYING POSTAGE.

SO ADDING ONE SHEET OF PAPER FOR A QUARTER PAGE, I WOULDN'T KNOW.

POSTAGE. YOU'RE NOT UNDERSTANDING HOW MAGAZINE WORKS.

IT DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY.

IT ALL COMES IN TOGETHER.

THERE'S MANY DIFFERENT THINGS, AND I SHOULDN'T HAVE TO BREAK DOWN AND TELL YOU EXACTLY WHAT MY PERCENTAGE IS.

THAT'S THAT'S NOT ANYBODY.

THAT'S MY BUSINESS.

HOWEVER, SO THERE IS ANOTHER PRINT MAGAZINE IN TOWN.

I FORGET WHAT THE NAME OF IT IS.

BURLESON NOW. THANK YOU.

I JUST DID. WHICH I FOUND THAT FACT.

THEY CAN'T. I'VE WORKED HARD TO AND YOU KNOW THIS TO BE I'VE JUST REDONE THE WHOLE MAGAZINE.

I'M HERE LOCALLY.

SO OF COURSE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO WANT TO SUPPORT ME AND NOT SUPPORT A MAGAZINE THAT GOES TO WAXAHACIE MONEY.

NO, I UNDERSTAND THAT AND I RESPECT IT.

BUT AGAIN, FROM THE PURVIEW OF THE PEOPLE AND THE CITIZENS TO SAY THAT WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU MONEY TO ADVERTISE IN YOUR OWN MAGAZINE, THEN I WON'T USE IT FOR MY LOCAL LIFE.

THAT'S WHERE THAT'S WHERE I'M KIND OF GOING WITH THIS.

RIGHT? I DON'T HAVE TO USE IT FOR LOCAL LIFE, IF THAT'S WHAT Y'ALL WANT, THAT'S FINE.

SO TO ME, I WOULD SAY YOU..

BUT I DON'T WANT YOU TO CUT OFF ALL THESE OTHER PEOPLE FROM USING LOCAL LIFE, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT'S FAIR.

NO, I UNDERSTAND THAT AS WELL.

BUT YOU CAN AGAIN, FROM THE PERCEPTION, SEE WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE.

IT DOES. I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT.

BUT I DON'T HAVE TO USE FOR MY EVENTS.

I'LL TAKE LOCAL LIFE OUT.

BUT DON'T TAKE AWAY THAT MONEY BECAUSE IT GIVES ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY ADVERTISE OUTSIDE OF THE DFW OUTSIDE OF BURLESON AREA.

SO THAT WOULD BE THE QUESTION THAT I HAVE TOO, THAT SO MANY OF THE OTHER APPLICANTS ARE ADVERTISING IN LOCAL LIFE.

WHAT'S YOUR READERSHIP AND HOW FAR OUT DO YOU GO? WE GO TO CROWLEY, BURLESON AND JOSHUA.

ARE THE MAGAZINE IS MAILED TO BURLESON AND JOSHUA RESIDENTS.

THE REACH ON OUR SOCIAL MEDIA IS WAY FURTHER THAN THAT.

OBVIOUSLY, I DON'T, I DIDN'T WASN'T PREPARED FOR THAT QUESTION.

SO BUT OUR WE REACH OVER 100,000 PEOPLE EVERY MONTH.

YEAH I WOULD THINK THAT FROM A PERSPECTIVE OF BRINGING PEOPLE IN TO THESE EVENTS THAT WE THE WHOLE GOAL IS TO BRING IN OUTSIDE PEOPLE.

THAT SOCIAL ADDS IS GOING TO BE A BETTER WAY TO DO THAT VERSUS PRINT.

YES, ON SOME OF THAT.

BUT YOU ALSO THINK ABOUT IF YOU ARE LOOKING IN A MAGAZINE AND BROOKE'S GOT BTX [INAUDIBLE] IN THERE AND THEY'RE SAYING, OH, THEY'RE DOING SUPPORT FOR ART VENDORS.

AND MY FRIEND'S DAUGHTER THAT LIVES IN KELLER WOULD BE GREAT FOR THIS.

THAT'S JUST ANOTHER WAY TO BRING SOMEBODY IN.

I DO UNDERSTAND THAT.

I JUST AM STRUGGLING WITH THE FACT THAT THERE'S AGAIN, FROM AN OUTSIDE PERSPECTIVE, I HAD THE SAME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE FARMER'S MARKET, THAT WHILE WE ARE LIMITED WHAT WE CAN DO WITH THESE FUNDS, WE'VE ALSO JUST MADE NOTE OF SOME VERY SPECIFIC AREAS THAT WE NEED TO SPEND MONEY ON TO HELP OUR CITY.

I'M STRUGGLING WITH HOW DO WE CONTINUE TO SUPPLEMENT FOR PROFIT BUSINESSES IN THE CITY? THAT'S MY THAT'S MY CHALLENGE IS..

BUT THE FOR PROFIT BUSINESSES FOR THESE EVENTS, I DO GIVE BACK TO CHARITY.

NOW SOME OF THOSE DON'T HAVE EXACTLY ON THEIR BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHO I'M PICKING UNTIL PROBABLY A COUPLE OF MONTHS BEFOREHAND.

BUT I MEAN WE DO GIVE BACK INTO THE COMMUNITY FOR NON PROFIT BUSINESSES.

LET ME NOT DISCOUNT YOU ON THIS, BUT SO DO HUNDREDS OF OTHER BUSINESSES IN THIS CITY.

AGREED. ALL THE TIME WITH THEIR EVERYDAY FUNDS.

SO AGAIN, FROM A PERSPECTIVE OF A CITIZEN, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THESE THINGS AND GO, OKAY, HOW HOW DO WE LOOK AT SAYING TOTAL $37,700 IS GOING TO BE SPENT ON LOCAL LIFE? THAT COMES FROM OUR HOT/MOT MONEY.

SOME OF IT'S GRANTS, SOME OF IT'S THE MONEY THEY'RE GOING TO SPEND WITH YOU.

IT'S JUST THAT'S MORE MONEY THAN WE GAVE DURING COVID FOR GRANTS.

I THINK TIMES WERE REALLY, REALLY TOUGH.

I'M NOT OK..

SO I ADDED UP. EVERYONE WHO MENTIONED YOUR COMPANY, I ADDED UP ALL THE NUMBERS AND ADDED AND THEN ADDED THAT WITH THE 16 GRAND THAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR, FOR YOUR EVENTS.

SO THAT'S WHERE I CAME UP WITH THAT NUMBER.

IT JUST AND AGAIN, PLEASE KNOW, I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM.

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THAT'S BECAUSE I WOULDN'T DO THESE EVENTS IF THEY WERE HOW I MAKE MY MONEY.

I AM A ONE INDIVIDUAL PERSON AND I AM GOOD AT MARKETING.

AND THAT'S WHY THEY PICKED ME.

AND I DON'T FEEL LIKE I SHOULD BE DUMPED ON BECAUSE OF THAT, BECAUSE I'VE WORKED HARD.

THEN HOW DOES THAT TIE INTO YOUR EVENTS AS WELL? SO THEN YOU'RE I JUST SAID I WON'T HAVE TO.

I WON'T USE MY MONEY ON LOCAL LIFE.

I'LL TAKE THAT OUT.

I WILL DO IT ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND BILLBOARDS.

I THINK WITH DOING THAT, THEN WE WOULD BE ABLE TO SEE THOSE RECEIPTS AND SHE WOULD HAVE OBVIOUSLY HAVE THE RECEIPTS SHOWING FOR THE REIMBURSABLE.

I KNOW I TALK ABOUT TRANSPARENCY ALL THE TIME AND THAT'S IMPORTANT IS WE HAVE TO BE TRANSPARENT.

I MEAN, THIS IS THIS IS MONEY THAT THE CITIZENS HAVE PAID FOR.

AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE NOBODY'S JUMPING ON YOU.

WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING OUR DUE DILIGENCE.

I UNDERSTAND, BUT I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND.

AND I DO TURN IN MY RECEIPTS.

IT HAS NOT BEEN AN ISSUE IN THE PAST.

IF I'D KNOWN IT WAS GOING TO BE AN ISSUE, I WOULDN'T HAVE PUT LOCAL LIFE ON THERE.

BUT I DID. I WANT YOU TO KNOW, I DID ASK THE QUESTION.

AND SO BUT AGAIN, THE REASON PEOPLE ARE ADVERTISING WITH ME IS BECAUSE I'M GOOD AT WHAT I DO.

YEAH. OKAY. SO HE DIDN'T KNOW, BY THE WAY, WHAT ANY OF US ARE GOING TO SAY IF YOU ASKED HIS DEPARTMENT.

THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE GOING TO SAY.

SO DON'T FRET ABOUT THAT.

NO, I'M NOT FRETTING ABOUT THAT.

AND IT'S FINE. I JUST I MEAN, ACTUALLY, WHEN I SAY, OH, YEAH, I HAVE NO IDEA THAT THEY PUT THAT ON THERE UNTIL YOU JUST TOLD ME.

THAT MAKES ME ACTUALLY FEEL GOOD BECAUSE THEY TRUST ME AND THEY KNOW I'M GOING TO DO A GOOD JOB.

SO THE GROUPS THAT WERE TALKING ABOUT HARVEST MOON FESTIVAL PARTY AT THE PAVILION IN SAINT PATTY'S, THOSE ARE SEPARATE ENTITIES FROM YOU AND THEY'VE JUST HIRED YOU TO ADVERTISE FOR THEM. OR DO YOU PUT THESE TOGETHER? NO, THOSE ARE MY EVENTS THAT I HAVE COME UP WITH MYSELF THAT I, I DID I'VE COME UP WITH ALL THESE MYSELF. OKAY.

SO THE ONLY ISSUE I HAVE IS THE DOLLAR AMOUNT COMPARED TO THE ATTENDANCE.

BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL NEW EVENTS.

OKAY. WELL, SORRY, SAINT PATTY'S DAY IS NOT SAINT PAT.

AND I STARTED THESE EVENTS COVID, SO IT'S HARD TO TELL EXACTLY, THIS IS GOING TO BE THE FIRST YEAR THAT WE REALLY HAVE AN ATTENDANCE TO WHERE WE'LL KNOW SOMETHING A LITTLE MORE THIS YEAR.

THE LAST TWO YEARS WERE COVID RELATED, BASICALLY.

SO YOU DON'T YOU DIDN'T THE ATTENDANCE WASN'T THAT GREAT.

OKAY. SO AND I UNDERSTAND YOUR COST ON PRINTING BECAUSE..

IT'S EXPENSIVE. YOU PRINT THE WHOLE BOOK NO MATTER WHAT THE AD IS.

YOU CAN'T SAY, I UNDERSTAND THAT.

WHY IS THE DOLLAR AMOUNT SO HIGH ON THIS? IS THAT YOUR NORMAL RATE FOR THAT SIZE AD OR..

NO I DO MULTIPLE MONTHS.

IT'S MULTIPLE. I DON'T JUST ADVERTISE THE PARTY IN THE PAVILION FOR JUNE.

PARTY IN THE PAVILION HAS ALREADY HAD TWO FULL PAGES.

BY THE TIME THAT WE GET UP TO THE EVENT AND THEN AFTER THE EVENT WITH ALL WITH ANYTHING THAT'S HAPPENED, ANYBODY I NEED TO THANK USUALLY IS A TWO PAGE SPREAD WHICH YOU'LL SEE IN THERE IS, I BELIEVE, OVER $2000 JUST FOR THAT.

SO BUT AGAIN, I DON'T HAVE TO PUT THAT IN THERE.

OKAY. IS THERE A COMPROMISE ON THE DOLLAR AMOUNT? I'M TRYING TO BE A GO BETWEEN, BETWEEN YOU AND COUNCIL.

BUT IS THERE A COMPROMISE ON THE FUNDS REQUEST? IF YOU WANT TO COMPROMISE YOU CAN, I MEAN, I SO I THINK I MEAN, I'LL JUMP IN JUST AS A THOUGHT AS JUST ON THE EVENTS THAT SHE'S HOSTING, THOSE THREE, HARVEST MOON, PARTY AT THE PAVILION, SAINT PATTY'S PUB CRAWL.

THAT RECEIPTS THAT ARE TURNED IN THAT WE REIMBURSE WOULD BE EVERYTHING REIMBURSABLE EXCEPT ANYTHING THAT'S LOCAL LOFT DRIVEN.

YEAH, I THINK THAT THAT'S FAIR AND I MEAN THAT WAY I MEAN THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS, THE DOLLAR AMOUNT STAYS THE SAME.

THE FUNDS REQUESTED THAT ADVERTISING JUST GOES TO SOMEWHERE ELSE, ANOTHER BILLBOARD OR ANOTHER PRINT AD THAT'S OUTSIDE OF THE REGION OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE.

THE COMPROMISE THERE.

I'M FINE WITH THAT. AND I THINK A LOT OF THE BIG KEY HERE IS THE WORD TOURISM.

AND TOURISM IS IMPORTANT FOR THIS.

TOURISM, IMPLYING THAT PEOPLE COME FROM OUTSIDE THE AREA.

SO IF WE'RE LIMITING ALL OF OUR ALL OF OUR REACH TO ONLY BURLESON AND THE SURROUNDING AREA, THEN WE'RE NOT REALLY PROMOTING TOURISM.

WE NEED TO MOVE ON.

IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE HAD TO MOVE? IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE I WANTED TO ASK? WELL, FIRST I JUST WANT TO SAY, LIKE, WE KNOW ADVERTISING IS EXPENSIVE.

I DON'T THINK $5000 IS IF YOU TRY TO GET A BILLBOARD, IF YOU ADVERTISE IN ANY PRINT, IF YOU BUY ADS ON FACEBOOK, A BILL THAT ADDS UP..

A BILLBOARD ON 35 IS GOING TO BE, A DIGITAL BILLBOARD IN A GOOD SPOT IS GOING TO BE $2,000 FOR ONE MONTH.

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JUST SO YOU GUYS WITH THE AMOUNT THAT SHE'S REQUESTED.

AND I THINK IT'S COMPLETELY FAIR TO SAY THAT ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF HER OWN MAGAZINE, WHICH AT THIS POINT SHE UNDERSTANDS, SHE WOULDN'T BE CLAIMING THAT.

BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR TO SAY WE CAN FAULT HER FOR ANYONE ELSE LISTING LOCAL LIFE ON THEIR APPLICATIONS BECAUSE SHE'S NOT AWARE OF THAT.

AND SHE'S AN ADVERTISING TOOL LOCATED HERE.

AND SO THEY KNOW THAT THEY CAN ACCESS LIKE THAT'S SUPPORTING LOCAL, BUT ALSO THEY KNOW THAT THEY CAN GET THAT SUPPORT BECAUSE THOSE RELATIONSHIPS ARE MOST LIKELY THERE.

SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT AND I'M SORRY THAT CAME ACROSS AS LIKE A FAULT OF YOURS BECAUSE SOMEBODY THOUGHT, THAT'S NOT WHAT I MEANT.

OKAY. AND JUST REMEMBER THAT IF WE WANT TO KEEP A MAGAZINE AROUND HERE, WE HAVE TO HAVE THIS BECAUSE THE PRINT.

PRINT IS TOUGH, Y'ALL.

SO IF YOU WANT TO KEEP ANYTHING AROUND HERE, IT'S GOING TO NEED STUFF LIKE THIS TO MAKE IT, ESPECIALLY IN THESE COMING MONTHS.

I WANT TO SAY, LIKE, YOU KNOW, I'M EXCITED ABOUT SOMETHING THAT'S HAPPENING IN THE FALL.

IF YOU GO BACK TO THE APPLICATION FROM JELLYSTONE, WE WERE THERE IN OCTOBER AND LIKE PEOPLE ARE COMING TO THIS AREA FOR FAMILY EVENTS, FOR ACTIVITIES. AND SO I LOVE THAT WE ARE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF LIKE, HEY, IF THIS WE KNOW THAT JELLYSTONE IS AN ATTRACTION.

AND WHILE I WAS STANDING IN LINE WAITING FOR MY KIDS TO RIDE THE HAYRIDE, SOMEBODY'S LIKE, HEY, ARE YOU FROM AROUND HERE? WE WERE THINKING ABOUT GOING TO PLAY GOLF.

I WAS LIKE, OH, MY GOSH, HIDDEN CREEKS JUST UP THE ROAD AND YOU KNOW, YOU SHOULD DO THIS AND THIS.

AND SO I THINK IT'S FANTASTIC TO HAVE EVENTS LIKE IN THE FALL WHERE WE KNOW PEOPLE ARE READY TO BE OUTSIDE.

THEY WANT TO MINGLE AND SPEND INCIDENTAL MONEY.

SO THIS ISN'T MONEY.

THAT'S THIS ISN'T TAXPAYER DOLLARS.

THIS IS MONEY THAT'S COMING FROM TOURISM, AS COUNCILMEMBER STANFORD SAID.

AND SO THE MORE PEOPLE WE CAN BRING HERE AND HOPEFULLY THEY STAY AHEAD IN A BED, BUT ALSO ALL THE INCIDENTAL, WHETHER YOU'RE EATING AT A LOCAL RESTAURANT, SHOPPING AT ONE OF OUR BOUTIQUES AND I KNOW AT SEVERAL OF THESE EVENTS THERE'S VENDORS.

AND SO THERE'S A LOT OF LOCAL BENEFIT TO THIS FOR ALL THESE LITTLE MICRO BUSINESSES THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT ON DIFFERENT AND DIFFERENT CONVERSATIONS PRIOR, I WANTED TO THIS IS NOT I HAD TO MOVE ON BECAUSE I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION.

DO WE SO NOT RELATED TO YOU, MS..

TIFFANY? DO WE ASK FOR EVENTS TO HAVE INSURANCE IN THE EVENT THAT THEY'RE CANCELED? YES, MA'AM. I KNOW THAT WAS A HARD DECISION.

EVERYONE WAS SO LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT ART FESTIVAL.

I CAN'T IMAGINE WHAT IT'S LIKE TO PUT FORTH ALL OF THAT WORK.

AND THEN YOU HAVE TO FINALLY SAY, WE CAN'T DO THIS.

AND I BELIEVE THAT WAS BECAUSE OF LOCATION AND THINGS HAPPEN AND CONSTRUCTION AND THINGS, WEATHER AND LOCATION, CONSTRUCTION, A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS.

SO I JUST DIDN'T KNOW HOW THAT WORKS.

IN THE EVENT THAT WE DO COMMIT TO A GRANT TO A IF THE EVENT DOESN'T HAPPEN, THE EVENT ORGANIZERS HAVE INSURANCE, BUT THE GRANT FUNDS DON'T GET SUBMITTED REIMBURSED AT THAT POINT.

BUT AND THEY WOULD STILL, I GUESS, SUBMIT FOR THOSE ADVERTISING DOLLARS.

NO, NO. I WAS JUST CURIOUS.

THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT.

TIFFANY, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, TIFFANY.

MY QUESTION IS MORE FOR ALEX ON THIS ONE.

AND IT KIND OF SUPPORTS WHAT TIFFANY WAS SAYING.

I WOULD LOVE TO SEE I WOULD LOVE TO SEE SOME REVISIONS TO OUR POLICY, YOU KNOW, AS OUR POLICY CURRENTLY SITS.

BASICALLY, EVERY GOLF TOURNAMENT QUALIFIES FOR HOT/MOT.

EVERY BYE EVENT QUALIFIES FOR HOT/MOT.

PEOPLE ARE GOING TO COME IN. SO I WOULD LOVE TO SEE US MAYBE GO BACK AND REVISIT OUR POLICY.

LOOK AT THAT. I WOULD ALSO LIKE US TO BE A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF THE FUNDS NEEDS TO BE USED ON LOCAL, RESOURCES.

TIFFANY, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO ADVERTISE IN OUR LOCAL MAGAZINES, IT SUPPORTS THE LOCAL BUSINESS.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT IN ADDITION, A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE.

SO AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE, I WOULD LOVE TO ACTUALLY SIT DOWN AND GO OVER THIS POLICY AND MAKE SURE THAT IT'S TIGHT BECAUSE AS TIME GOES ON, AS PEOPLE REALIZE THAT WE HAVE A CASH COW AND THERE'S BASICALLY IT'S VERY, VERY LACKADAISICAL AS FAR AS WHAT THE QUALIFICATIONS ARE TO TO APPLY FOR IT.

NOW, CURRENTLY, I'D LIKE TO TIGHTEN IT UP A LITTLE BIT.

SO MOVING ON.

THANK YOU. I HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS.

SO I ALSO WANT TO BRING OUT THIS IS AN UNDERSTANDING THAT I KIND OF NEED.

THESE EVENTS WERE NOT STARTED WITH THE HOPES THAT YOU GET MONEY FROM THE CITY TO SUPPORT IT.

CLEARLY YOU WENT INTO THIS KNOWING THAT YOU WOULD BE RUNNING A BUSINESS AND FUNDING THAT BUSINESS.

AND I'M SAYING THIS TO EVERYBODY.

SO THE FOOD AND FOOD TRUCK AND ARTS FESTIVAL, IS IT THAT ONE OR THE BREWFEST HAS BEEN A VERY SUCCESSFUL EVENT, WHICH MEANS IT WAS PROBABLY PROFITABLE, YET WE'VE INCREASED THE AMOUNT OF FUNDS BEING REQUESTED FOR THIS THIS YEAR AND I'M CONFUSED BY THAT.

AGAIN FOR PROFIT BUSINESS THAT WE ARE INCREASING OUR FUNDS AND SUPPORTING THAT MADE DID WELL AT THIS IT WOULD I JUST STRUGGLE WITH US COMING IN WITH THESE PROFITABLE BUSINESSES ASKING FOR THE CITY TO SUPPLEMENT THEM TO BRING IN BUSINESS THAT WE CAN'T QUANTIFY, BY THE WAY.

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IS NOT QUANTIFIABLE.

AND ACCORDING TO EVEN SOME PEOPLE'S APPLICATIONS, IT SAYS 2 TO 10 BEDS POSSIBLY, AND THEN OTHERS SAY UNKNOWN.

SO I'M NOT COMFORTABLE WITH $18,000 TO GIVE TO THE BREW FEST.

YEAH, I THINK THOSE ARE THOSE ARE FAIR QUESTIONS, COUNCIL MEMBER.

AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT IT'S AGAIN, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THESE ARE VERY SUBJECTIVE AS YOU BRING THESE FORWARD AND WE'RE LOOKING FOR IF YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE THE 17,000 FOR THE BREWFEST, WE'RE LOOKING FOR COUNCIL DIRECTION.

WHAT DO YOU THINK THE NUMBER SHOULD BE? AND WE'LL CERTAINLY LOOK AT THE POLICY AND ANY OTHER CHANGES THAT YOU'D LIKE TO HAVE FOR IT AND BRING IT BACK ANY WAY YOU WANT TO.

I WOULD LIKE TO KEEP IT AT TEN AND USE THAT TEN TO REALLY GET AND PROMOTE TO THE OUTSIDE PEOPLE TO DO SOCIAL MEDIA AND STUFF.

COME ON UP. COME ON UP.

GOOD MORNING. SO I WANTED TO TOUCH ON THAT A LITTLE BIT.

SO, YES, BREWFEST WAS PROFITABLE.

IT WAS A FIRST YEAR EVENT.

WE HAD AN AMAZING DAY.

I THINK EVERYBODY IT WAS VERY SUCCESSFUL.

SO ONE THING I WANTED TO POINT OUT, THE MAIN REASON THAT WE ASKED FOR MORE MONEY FOR THAT, THERE'S ACTUALLY TWO REASONS.

WE ACTUALLY SPENT OVER $18,000 IN MARKETING ALONE.

NOW, OUR ATTENDANCE CAME FROM, ALL FROM, SO IF I LOOK AT THE GRAPHIC, ALL FROM ALL THE WAY OUT TO FORNEY DOWN TO HOUSTON, AND WE ACTUALLY HAD SOME ZIP CODES IN GEORGIA.

SO AUDIENCE WISE, IT COVERED THE FULL METROPLEX.

THE GOAL IS FOR PEOPLE TO STAY IN HOTELS IN BURLESON.

THAT IS THE GOAL. THERE'S A PROBLEM WITH THAT.

OUR LOCAL HOTELS OUTSIDE OF JELLYSTONE, ARE TOO LOCAL BURLESON HOTELS DO NOT OFFER PROMO CODES AND THEY DO NOT TRACK THE PEOPLE THAT STAY.

THEY CAN OFFER A PROMO CODE, BUT THEY DON'T TRACK THAT.

WE'VE ACTUALLY HAD THIS CONVERSATION WITH THEM, SO IT'S VERY HARD FOR US TO DEFINE WHO IS STAYING IN BURLESON HOTELS BECAUSE THEY DON'T TRACK THAT.

I DON'T HAVE A WAY OF TRACKING THAT.

I CAN TELL YOU WHERE OUR ZIP CODES ARE LOCATED FROM OUR ATTENDEES.

NOW, THE OTHER REASON WE ASKED FOR A HIGHER AMOUNT THIS YEAR IS BECAUSE OUR GOAL FOR BTX BREWFEST IS TO BE A MULTI DAY EVENT.

OUR GOAL IS FOR IT TO BE A FULL WEEKEND IN PROBABLY THE NEXT TWO YEARS.

SO THE BIGGER OUR AUDIENCE GROWS, THE MORE PEOPLE THAT WILL COME.

THE MORE PROFIT WE HAVE TO EXPAND THAT TO A MULTI DAY YEAR.

SO I CAN TELL YOU THAT FOR LAST YEAR, FOR A FIRST YEAR EVENT, WE WERE AWARDED $10,000.

WE SPENT OVER 18,000 OK.

THAT IS WHY WE ASKED FOR IT, BECAUSE WE WANT TO EXPAND OUR MARKETING EFFORTS AND WE DO UTILIZE LOCAL LIFE FOR PRINT ADVERTISING.

HOWEVER, OF THE AMOUNT THAT WE SPENT WITH LOCAL LIFE, I CAN TELL YOU ONLY A PORTION OF THAT WAS PRINT ADVERTISING AND IT WAS ACTUALLY A SMALL PORTION OF THAT.

WE UTILIZE LOCAL LIFE FOR OUR SOCIAL MEDIA ADVERTISING.

THEY DO ALL OF OUR FACEBOOK ADS, AND THAT'S WHAT PROMOTES IT OUT TO AN AUDIENCE BIGGER THAN BURLESON OK.

FOOD TRUCK AND ART FESTIVAL. YES, WE ONLY ASKED FOR 10,000 BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE WERE AWARDED LAST YEAR AND WE FELT LIKE THAT WAS APPROPRIATE.

SO DOES THAT HELP A LITTLE BIT UNDERSTAND WHY WE'RE ASKING FOR MORE? I UNDERSTAND IT, BUT I STILL HAVE TO DO A LITTLE PUSHBACK AND SAY, BUT WHY SHOULD THE CITY COVER YOUR MARKETING EXPENSE FOR YOUR EVENT? I'M NOT ASKING FOR THE CITY TO COVER IT IN FULL.

I'M ASKING FOR THE CITY TO COVER A PORTION OF IT.

JUST LIKE WE SPENT 18,000 LAST YEAR.

WE WILL SPEND MORE THAN THAT THIS YEAR.

SO WE ARE ASKING FOR LIKE WE GOT 10,000 LAST YEAR.

IT COVERED A PORTION OF OUR MARKETING EXPENSES TO BROADEN OUR REACH TO ENCOURAGE HOTEL STAYS.

SO IF THAT'S NOT THE INTENT, IF THE INTENT IS NOT TO BRING PEOPLE FROM OUTSIDE OF BURLESON, OUR MARKETING DOLLARS ARE NOT SPENT TO ADVERTISE TO BURLESON OUR MARKETING DOLLARS ARE SPENT TO ADVERTISE TO PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF THIS AREA TO BRING PEOPLE IN.

SO I GUESS FOR ME I WOULD AND I DON'T MEAN TO BE DISRESPECTFUL AT ALL.

MY QUESTION TO YOU IS, IF YOU'RE ASKING FOR THOSE THAT ARE APPLYING FOR HOT/MOT TO REACH A BROADER AUDIENCE TO BRING PEOPLE IN. WHY WOULD YOU NOT WANT TO COVER A PORTION OF THE MARKETING EXPENSES TO REACH THAT BROADER AUDIENCE? WHAT WAS YOUR NET PROFIT ON THE EVENT LAST YEAR? OUR NET PROFIT WAS HOLD ON.

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IT WAS SORRY.

I DON'T HAVE THAT NUMBER HERE. IF I DO MY MATH RIGHT, IT WAS AROUND $40,000.

AROUND 40,000. AND I DO NOT HAVE THAT EXACT NUMBER HERE.

BUT IF I DO MY MATH IN MY HEAD QUICKLY, PHOTOGRAPHER.

NOT A MATH PERSON. NOT BAD FOR ONE DAY.

TO RESPOND BACK TO THAT TO SAY IF WE DIDN'T ASK FOR A GRANT APPLICATIONS PEOPLE WOULD BE PAYING FOR THE.

THIS IS A GIVEBACK FROM THE CITY.

SO SURELY YOU CAN UNDERSTAND WHY AS THE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN CHARGE OF SPENDING THE CITY'S MONEY THAT WE ARE BEING CONSCIOUS OF THE FACT THAT, AGAIN, ANYBODY COULD WALK IN HERE AND I WOULD SUGGEST THE BYA COME IN FOR SOFTBALL TOURNAMENTS AND SAY, HEY, I NEED HOT/MOT MONEY BECAUSE THE MORE THAT WE HAVE APPLY, THE LESS MONEY EVERYBODY'S GOING TO GET.

ABSOLUTELY. AND SO BANKING ON MONEY FROM THE CITY TO HELP EXPAND YOUR BUSINESS IS NOT A SMART BUSINESS CONCEPT.

NO, ABSOLUTELY. AND I DON'T THINK I CAN SPEAK FOR OUR TWO EVENTS.

WE'RE NOT BANKING ON THE CITY TO TO PAY FOR THIS.

ABSOLUTELY. WE UNDERSTAND THAT WE COULD WALK OUT OF HERE AND NOT GET ANY MONEY AT ALL.

I CAN TELL YOU, THOUGH, THAT IF YOU ARE ENCOURAGING THESE EVENTS TO BRING IN OTHER VISITORS FROM OUTSIDE OF TOWN, I CAN HAVE A SUCCESSFUL EVENT IN BURLESON AND NOT ADVERTISE FOR A COMMUNITY OUTSIDE OF IT.

IS IT PREFERABLE? ABSOLUTELY. WE HAVE AN AMAZING COMMUNITY.

IS IT PREFERABLE FOR ME TO ADVERTISE OUTSIDE OF IT SO THAT I CAN GROW IT TO A TWO DAY EVENT SO THAT IT BENEFITS ALL OF OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES SO THAT IT BENEFITS OUR HOTELS? ABSOLUTELY. I'M NOT BANKING ON THIS MONEY WHATSOEVER.

WE KNOW HOW TO DRIVE THIS BUSINESS, BUT THIS IS A RESOURCE THAT IS AVAILABLE TO US.

AND SO IF I CAN PROVIDE IF I CAN HIT YOUR GOAL AND MY GOAL AND YOU'VE OFFERED THIS RESOURCE TO ME, I ABSOLUTELY WILL APPLY FOR IT.

THERE IS NO CAP.

THERE IS NO LIMIT ON THE APPLICATION.

SO IF YOU DON'T WANT US TO IF YOU'RE NOT OKAY WITH THE EVENT GROWING AND ASKING FOR MORE MONEY THAN I WOULD SAY FOR SOMEONE APPLYING FOR IT, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE GUIDANCE IN THERE THAT SAYS, HEY, DON'T ASK FOR MORE THAN THIS.

BUT I THINK THAT'S THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M SAYING TO SAY THAT I'M NOT INTERESTED IN THE EVENT GROWING.

QUITE FRANKLY, AS EVEN WITH OTHER EVENTS WE HAVE IN TOWN, WHEN WE BRING IN VENDORS THAT NONE OF THAT SALES TAX MONEY GOES TO US UNLESS THE VENDOR ACTUALLY IS BASED IN BURLESON.

SO THIS IS ABOUT BEDS, HEADS AND BEDS.

THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ABOUT.

ABSOLUTELY. IT'S NOT ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS AT THAT EVENT.

WE DON'T MAKE ANY MONEY OFF OF THAT.

THERE'S IF ANY SALES TAX THAT COMES BACK TO US, EVEN WITH THE FARMER'S MARKET, IF THOSE VENDORS ARE NOT BASED IN BURLESON, WE DON'T SEE A DIME OF THAT SALES TAX MONEY.

SO I UNDERSTAND WHY YOU I'M NOT FAULTING YOU FOR ASKING FOR MONEY.

I JUST WANTED TO EXPLAIN.

I WANTED TO BE ABLE TO EXPLAIN TO YOU WHY WE WERE ASKING FOR MORE AND WHAT THE INTENT IS.

AND FOR ME, AS A COUNCILPERSON AND A CITIZEN I'M NOT INTERESTED IN SAYING WE HAVE A TWO DAY EVENT THAT DOESN'T INTEREST ME.

I KNOW THAT'S YOUR JOB, BUT THAT DOESN'T INTEREST ME TO INCREASE AN EVENT FROM ONE DAY TO TWO DAY BECAUSE IT TAKES UP MORE TIME AND CLOSES DOWN STREETS FOR LONGER PERIODS OF TIME.

WHEN WE DON'T IT'S NOT LIKE WE HAVE A SIGNATURE EVENT HERE IN TOWN.

WE HAVE NOW A HOW MANY? A LOT. WHICH I MEAN, I'LL JUST FROM MY STANDPOINT IN MY POSITION, THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY LOVES TO SEE THESE EVENTS GROW BECAUSE IT BRINGS BUSINESS IN THEIR DOORS FROM OUTSIDE OF THE COMMUNITY.

THAT DRIVES MORE VISITS MAYBE IN THE FUTURE THAT THEY'VE LIKED.

AND THAT'S MY OPINION.

I DISAGREE. I WENT TO THE WINE CRAWL.

I LEFT THE WINE CRAWL, I WENT HOME.

THAT I'M SORRY, THEY'RE COMING TO GO TO THE EVENT.

THEY'RE NOT COMING TO LEAVE THE EVENT AND GO SOMEWHERE ELSE, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE THE MAJORITY OF THESE EVENTS HAVE ALCOHOL INVOLVED.

SO THEY'RE NOT DRIVING AROUND TOWN SHOPPING IN OTHER PLACES.

AND THEY SHOULDN'T BE.

SO THAT'S THE OTHER PART OF THIS.

THE MAJORITY OF THESE ARE ALL ALCOHOL BASED EVENTS.

WHICH WE DON'T GET ANY OF THAT SALES TAX MONEY.

UNLESS WE USE A LOCAL WINERY OR A LOCAL BREWERY.

SO REMEMBER, MY JOB HERE IS TO I DIDN'T KNOW AS MUCH AS I KNOW NOW LAST YEAR WHEN THIS CAME FORWARD.

SO MY JOB HERE IS TO JUST POSE THOUGHTS AND BRING FORWARD THINGS I'M NOT AGAIN, HIGHLY RESPECT YOU GUYS.

I'M A BUSINESS PERSON, TOO.

AND YOU KNOW THIS OK.

I STRUGGLE WITH ASKING FOR MONEY TO PAY FOR SOMEONE'S ADVERTISING AND INCREASING IT SO THEY CAN EXPAND THEIR BUSINESS.

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WHEN WE'RE NOT GUARANTEED, YOU KNOW, HEADS AND BEDS.

AND THAT'S A WHOLE NOTHER ISSUE.

NOW, I KNOW THEY DO DO PROMO CODES BECAUSE THE CHAMBER ACTUALLY BROUGHT THAT UP.

THAT THEY DO. HOW DO WE TRACK THAT AND HOW DO WE GET HAVING BETTER CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM SO THAT WE CAN WOULD BE REALLY CRITICAL, I THINK, MOVING FORWARD.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE OTHER THING I WILL SAY THAT JELLYSTONE PROVIDED US WITH SOME VERY SPECIFIC DETAILED NUMBERS. ALSO, I HONESTLY GOT TO SAY THAT FULL CIRCLE DID BACK PROVIDED US WITH SOME REALLY GOOD PLANS AND MARKETING PLANS ON HOW THEY'RE GOING TO USE.

SAME THING WITH MCKENZIE'S, HOW THEY ACTUALLY HAVE A MARKETING PLAN.

IF THESE ARE MULTI YEAR EVENTS, WHY ARE WE NOT SEEING SOME MORE DETAILS ON WHAT THE MONEY AND HOW YOU'RE GOING TO DO THIS EVENT AND HOW YOU'RE GOING TO EXECUTE IT AND WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO USE THE ADVERTISING FOR SPECIFICS.

LIKE IF YOU YOU CAN GO ONLINE TO THE WEBSITE NOW AND YOU CAN SEE ALL THE APPLICATIONS.

SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.

I'M MAKING THIS SUGGESTION MOVING FORWARD TO THOSE OF YOU WHEN YOU APPLY AGAIN TO PLEASE PROVIDE US WITH SOME MORE.

I HAVE VERY LITTLE.

HEY, WHAT'S THIS GOING TO DO FOR THE CITY? THERE'S JUST A LITTLE SMALL AND OTHERS HAVE PROVIDED SOME PRETTY GOOD DETAILS.

I THINK WHEN WE BRING THE POLICY BACK, IT'LL BE UP TO COUNCIL TO DECIDE WHAT GOES IN THE APPLICATION AND THE POLICY.

IT'LL BE YALL'S DECISION, NOT OURS.

SO THERE'S SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

THANK YOU. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ON EITHER OF THE TWO THAT WE HAVE? ANYTHING ELSE? NOPE.

ANYONE ELSE? THANK YOU.

I WANT TO SAY A FEW THINGS.

THEY'RE REALLY ONLY A COUPLE OF REASONS WHY ANYBODY WOULD EVER UNDERTAKE THE PROSPECT.

THE PROJECT OF PUTTING ON SOMETHING LIKE THIS ONE IS FOR THE PROFIT.

THE OTHER WOULD BE TO BENEFIT SOME SORT OF HUMANITARIAN MISSION, SUCH AS CRAZY AID, ETC., ETC..

I'M IN BUSINESS FOR PROFIT AND I THINK IT'S A VERY HONORABLE THING TO GO OUT AND TRY TO MAKE MONEY DOING SOMETHING THAT I DON'T HAVE ONE MOMENT'S HESITATION.

I THINK THE QUESTION IS REALLY SHOULD NEVER BE ASKED, ARE THESE PEOPLE GOING TO MAKE MONEY? HELL, YEAH, THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE MONEY.

THAT'S THE REASON WHY THEY DO IT.

BUT IN THE PROCESS, WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS INCREASING THE VISIBILITY OF THE COMMUNITY OF BURLESON AND WITHIN THE REGION, DRAWING PEOPLE HERE, BRINGING ATTENTION TO THE CITY.

THAT'S WHAT THE HOT/MOT MONEY IS FOR.

WE DIDN'T NEED TO GET OFF IN THE WEEDS ABOUT ALL THESE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT ARE YOU MAKING MONEY OR YOU'RE NOT MAKING MONEY? HOW MUCH MONEY? DOESN'T MATTER.

THE FACT IS, WE NEED TO TRY THESE EVENTS.

IF THEY'RE SUCCESSFUL, THEY'LL COME BACK.

IF THEY'RE NOT, THEY'LL TRY SOMETHING ELSE.

BUT WE'RE SPENDING THE MONEY CAREFULLY, IN MY MIND, AND TRUSTING THE PEOPLE, PUTTING ON THE EVENTS TO MAKE THEIR OWN DECISIONS ABOUT HOW TO ADVERTISE THEM, HOW TO HOW DO THEY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO? OUR GOAL IS TO JUST HAVE THINGS GOING ON, AND THAT'S WHAT HOT/MOT IS ALL ABOUT.

SO I DON'T HAVE ONE MOMENT'S HESITATION WAS SUPPORTING THIS ENTIRE ROSTER AND I DON'T REALLY WANT TO KNOW ALL THE DETAILS.

JUST LET'S JUST PUT THE EVENT ON.

SEE IF IT GOES WELL. IF IT GOES WELL, WE'LL DO IT AGAIN.

AND THE CITY HAS THESE REQUESTS ARE ALL VERY REASONABLE.

I THINK THEY'RE ALL VERY SUPPORTABLE.

I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH ANY OF THEM.

THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND I RESPECT YOU, DAN, AND I RESPECT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

BUT TO HAVE THE CONCEPT THAT THIS IS WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING FOR YEARS SO WE'LL KEEP DOING IT IS EXACTLY WHY WE'RE WHERE WE ARE.

THAT'S NOT WHAT OUR JOB IS.

OUR JOB ISN'T JUST TO DO IT AND NOT ASK FOR ANY RESPONSE BACK.

DARE I SAY THAT BABES BRINGS IN MORE TOURISM THAN ANY ONE OF THESE EVENTS.

PEOPLE TRAVEL FROM ALL OVER TO COME DOWN HERE TO EAT AT BABES, WE'RE NOT SUPPLEMENTING BABES.

THEY COME HERE TO EAT AND THEY LEAVE, NOT COME HERE TO EAT AND SPEND THE NIGHT AT A HOTEL.

I MEAN, THAT'S ALL THESE EVENTS ARE.

LET ME LET ME JUST SAY THIS.

DISCUSSING THE CRITERIA AND THE ANALYSIS AND THE AWARDING OF POINTS AND MONEY.

AND THAT'S A DIFFERENT DISCUSSION.

WE CAN WE CAN HAVE THAT.

WE CAN JUST GRIND THE HELL OUT OF IT UNTIL WE GET IT EXACTLY LIKE ONE.

THESE EVENTS ARE GOOD EVENTS AND I'M IN SUPPORT OF THEM.

IF YOU WANT TO TAKE A HARD LOOK AT THE POLICY AND THE POINT SYSTEM AND ALL THIS KIND OF STUFF, LET'S LET'S DO THAT SOMEDAY.

BUT TODAY, LET'S GET PAST THIS.

WE'VE GOT A LOT OF STUFF ON THE AGENDA.

I THINK THESE ARE ALL GOOD EVENTS.

I DO HAVE A COMMENT.

I CAN TELL YOU FROM HISTORY.

WE SET UP CRITERIA YEARS BACK.

YOU MIGHT NOT LIKE IT, BUT WE DID IT BECAUSE THERE WAS NO CRITERIA.

SO WE DID SOMETHING AND THAT WAS THE REASON FOR IT.

AND DAN'S GOING TO BE SHORT BECAUSE I'M RIGHT WITH IT.

WELL, I THINK I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH ANY OF THIS.

SO I WANT TO GO ON RECORD BY SAYING I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH ANY OF THIS.

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AND AGAIN, LIKE DAN SAID, IF WE NEED TO GO BACK AND CHANGE THE CRITERIA, I'M NOT I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.

BUT I DID WANT YOU TO KNOW WE DID WE ASKED FOR CRITERIA YEARS AGO AND WE ASKED THE SAME QUESTIONS THAT'S BEING ASKED TODAY.

OH, WOW.

WE NEED RECEIPTS.

THIS WAS, WHAT, FIVE, SIX YEARS AGO? THAT'S THAT'S THE REASON PROBABLY YOU ALL ARE NOT YOU'RE ASKING THE SAME QUESTIONS WE ASK A LONG TIME AGO IS WHAT IS THE POINT I'M TRYING TO MAKE? I AGREE, RONNIE, IF WE NEED TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION, LET'S PUT AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA JUST TO DISCUSS THE POLICY.

BUT TODAY, LET'S GET PAST THIS AND GO ON.

I LOOK FORWARD TO THAT.

SO I WON'T ASK ANY MORE QUESTIONS OF THE OTHER APPLICANTS.

ANYBODY ELSE. OKAY.

I THINK WE ALL AGREE.

WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE POLICY, COME BACK.

BUT I THINK. I'VE GOT A SPLIT COUNCIL UP HERE.

I'M FOR MOVING FORWARD WITH WHAT WE'VE GOT TODAY.

SO THERE'S A RESOLUTION FOR Y'ALL TO VOTE ON FOR THE HOT/MOT AWARDS FOR THIS 22-23.

THE AMOUNT 158,000, WHICH IS THE WHOLE GAMUT OF AWARDS.

AND THEN JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU KNOW THE DIRECTION OF THE PROJECTS, THE ONES THAT WE IDENTIFIED AND THEN WHERE COUNCIL IS ON.

YOU KNOW, DO YOU WANT TO ADD THE PLAZA CAMERAS TO THE LINEUP OF THE OTHER ONES THAT WE'VE RECOMMENDED? THAT WAY WE CAN MOVE FORWARD, INCLUDING THAT IN THE BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR.

IS EVERYBODY IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT? SO WE'LL ADD THAT.

BUT THEN I NEED A VOTE ON THE RESOLUTIONS TO AWARD THE HOT/MOT GRANTS.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

SECOND, I'D LIKE TO JUST FOR CLARITY SAKE, IF THERE IS A REQUEST FROM THE COUNCIL TO MAKE SURE THAT THE LOCAL LIFE EVENTS DO NOT ADVERTISE IN THE LOCAL LIFE MAGAZINE, THAT THAT BEING PART OF THE MOTION, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'D LIKE TO HAVE HAPPEN, NOT BE REIMBURSED FOR ADVERTISING.

YEAH, JUST ADVERTISE JUST THOSE, JUST THOSE THREE EVENTS.

WE HAVE A LOT OF CONVERSATION ON THAT.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S CLEAR.

THE DIRECTION TO STAFF, TO THE EVENT ORGANIZERS OF WHAT IS THE COUNCIL AUTHORIZING? IS THAT PART OF YOUR MOTION? SOMEONE'S GOING TO HAVE MAKE A MOTION ON THERE.

THAT'S NOT PART OF MINE.

I THINK SHE UNDERSTANDS SHE UNDERSTOOD THAT PIECE.

AND SO I TRUST THAT SHE'S GOING TO SUBMIT WHAT SHE NEEDS TO SUBMIT.

SO THAT'S NOT SOMEBODY ELSE NEEDS TO MAKE THE MOTION THAN THEY CAN.

BUT I JUST MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED, AND I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION.

I HAVE A MOTION BY VICTORIA AND A SECOND BY DAN.

PLEASE VOTE.

5 TO 1.

OK.

[A. Receive a report, hold a discussion, and give staff direction regarding the Economic Development Strategic Plan. (Staff Presenter: Alex Philips, Economic Development Director) ]

3A, REPORTS AND PRESENTATIONS, RECEIVE A REPORT, HOLD A DISCUSSION AND GIVE STAFF DIRECTION REGARDING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, STRATEGIC PLAN, STAFF PRESENTER IS ALEX PHILLIPS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR.

ALEX YES, MA'AM.

THANKS, MONICA. I'M TRYING TO PULL UP MY PRESENTATION.

GIVE ME JUST A SECOND.

I HAD IT PULLED UP EARLIER, BUT IT'S NOT.

OK ALEX PHILLIPS, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR FOR THE CITY.

CHANGE GEARS IN MY HEAD HERE A LITTLE BIT.

TALK ABOUT THE EDC STRATEGIC PLAN.

KIND OF GO OVER OUR GOALS, OUR MISSIONS, OUR ACCOMPLISHMENTS AND KIND OF LOOKING FORWARD GOING INTO NEXT YEAR AND BEYOND.

AGAIN, THE 4A ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, OUR MISSION IS TO CREATE AND FOSTER OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE EXPANSION AND DIVERSIFICATION OF THE LOCAL ECONOMY.

SO IN THIS STRATEGIC PLAN, WE'LL KIND OF GO THROUGH SOME DATA ANALYSIS, KIND OF SHOW YOU SOME DEMOGRAPHICS OBJECTIVES, IDENTIFY SOME TRENDS AND AREAS FOR GROWTH, THEN ALSO LOOK AT SOME RECOMMENDATIONS FROM US AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

SO JUST KIND OF BURLESON DEMOGRAPHICS AS A WHOLE.

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I MEAN, YOU CAN KIND OF SEE OUR POPULATIONS AT 50,545, EVEN THOUGH I SAW A REPORT THIS MORNING THAT WAS 51,000 AND SOME CHANGE NOW.

SO IT KEEPS GROWING.

OUR GROWTH OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS IS PROJECTED TO BE ALMOST 7%.

MEDIAN AGE IS A LITTLE BIT OVER 35 YEARS OF AGE.

THE BIG THING THAT JUMPS OUT HERE IS OUR MEDIAN HOUSEHOLD INCOME HAS JUMPED OVER 90,000 A YEAR.

SO I NOW KIND OF GO THROUGH SOME GRAPHS HERE.

AS YOU CAN SEE, THE THE POPULATION TRENDS THROUGHOUT THE YEARS FROM 2015 TO 2022 TO DATE.

OUR POPULATION NUMBERS JUST CONTINUE TO GROW, BUT OUR MEDIAN HOUSEHOLD INCOME CONTINUES TO GROW AND ALMOST JUMPED 10,000 FROM LAST YEAR TO THIS YEAR.

SO IT'S KIND OF CRAZY.

WE KIND OF SEE THE POPULATION TRENDS IN SALES TAX AS WELL.

OUR POPULATION, AGAIN, 6.7% INCREASE FROM 2020 TO 2021.

AND THEN SALES TAX GREW 16 A LITTLE BIT OVER 16% JUST FROM 2020 TO 2021.

SALES TAX PER CAPITA.

SO THESE ARE JUST RESIDENTS SPENDING MONEY AND WHAT THEY SPEND PER CAPITA, YOU KNOW, WE'RE COMPARED TO OTHER CITIES SIMILAR TO US ARE A LITTLE BIT BIGGER.

WE'RE SITTING A LITTLE BIT LESS THAN $500 A CALENDAR YEAR PER CAPITA.

COMPARABLE COMMUNITIES.

KIND OF COMPARING US ACROSS THE BOARD.

I COMPARE US A LOT TO JUST PERSONALLY WHEN I'M DOING RECOMMENDATIONS OR PROPOSALS, A LOT TO ROCKWALL, BECAUSE WE'RE VERY, VERY SIMILAR TO ROCKWALL IN TERMS OF SIZE AND POPULATION.

AND WE USED TO HAVE LIKE A BIG GAP IN BETWEEN THE MEDIAN HOUSEHOLD INCOME BETWEEN US AND ROCKWALL, AND THAT IS CLOSING FAST.

SO BUT YOU CAN SEE US WITH MEDIAN HOUSEHOLD INCOME, HOW WE COMPARE, POPULATION AND POST HIGH SCHOOL ATTAINMENT.

ALSO COST OF LIVING.

HIGHEST LEVEL OF EDUCATIONAL ATTAINMENT.

WE'VE SEEN A LITTLE BIT OVER 38% INCREASE IN BURLESON RESIDENTS WITH AT LEAST A BACHELOR'S DEGREE SINCE 2011.

YOU CAN SEE US WHERE WE'RE COMPARED TO THE STATE OF TEXAS AND ALSO THE UNITED STATES AS A WHOLE.

WE'RE ABOVE ALL OF THEM, EXCEPT IN THE BACHELOR'S DEGREE AND POSTGRADUATE DEGREE.

BUT THAT'S THE AREA THAT WE'RE STARTING TO SEE AN INCREASE AND CONTINUE TO SEE AN INCREASE EVERY YEAR.

OUR BURLESON RESIDENT WORKFORCE BREAKDOWN TOTAL WORKFORCE THAT WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE IN TOWN.

BUT WORK IS A LITTLE BIT OVER 25,000 PEOPLE.

BREAK DOWN WHITE COLLAR, 14,809.

BLUE COLLAR 7300 AND SOME CHANGE AND THEN SERVICE AND FARM INDUSTRY A LITTLE BIT OVER 3000 WORKERS.

ANNUAL WAGES, THESE ARE JOBS WITHIN THE CITY OF BURLESON.

SO IT WAS INTERESTING TO SEE THE JOBS THAT WE'VE SEEN INSIDE THE CITY OF BURLESON.

THE AVERAGE WAGES HAVE JUMPED FROM ALMOST 48,000 TO ALMOST 51,000 IN A YEAR.

THAT'S AN ALMOST 20% INCREASE SINCE 2015.

AND IT'S ALSO THE BURLESON RESIDENTS SINCE 2015 HAVE SEEN AN INCREASE IN HOUSEHOLD INCOME OF ALMOST 31%.

SO RESIDENTS THAT LIVE HERE ARE SEEING MORE MONEY IN THEIR HOUSEHOLD, BUT ALSO JOBS THAT ARE HERE IN THE CITY ARE PAYING BETTER ON AVERAGE.

WORKER TRAVEL TIME, THE AVERAGE COMMUTE FOR OUR WORKERS IS 33 MINUTES.

WE'RE STILL SEEING A LOT OF PEOPLE DRIVE OUTSIDE OF OUR COMMUNITY TO GO TO WORK, WHICH IS GOING TO HAPPEN BEING A SUBURB OF FORT WORTH.

BUT THE LESS THAN 15 MINUTES IS PROBABLY IN TOWN OR VERY CLOSE BY.

WE CAN'T GET DOWN TO JUST DRILLING DOWN TO HOW MANY WE HAVE EXACTLY HERE IN TOWN, BUT A LITTLE BIT OVER 4000, ALMOST 4100 JOBS IN THE COMMUNITY OR CLOSE BY.

SO OUR DEMOGRAPHIC TAKEAWAYS, THE RESIDENT MEDIAN HOUSEHOLD INCOME IS RELATIVELY HIGH.

IT CAN CONTINUE TO GROW.

WE HAVE A STRONG WHITE COLLAR WORKFORCE THAT LIVES IN OUR COMMUNITY.

EDUCATIONAL ATTAINMENT AND SLIGHTLY BEHIND TEXAS AND US AVERAGES.

MAJORITY OF OUR RESIDENTS CONTINUE TO WORK OUTSIDE OF THE CITY.

AND THAT PERCENTAGE, I MEAN, IT'S ALWAYS BEEN LIKE IN THE 70% OF OUR CITIZENS DRIVE OUTSIDE OF TOWN.

NOW IT'S GETTING TO THE 68%.

SO WE'RE SEEING A LITTLE INCREMENTS OF PEOPLE STAYING HERE.

BUT A LOT OF THE WORKERS THAT ARE COMING TO SAY THE INDUSTRIAL PARK ARE ARE NOT LIVING IN THE COMMUNITY THEY LIVE IN RIGHT OUTSIDE ALVARADO, JOSHUA CLAYBURN AND DRIVING THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY. SO THERE'S AN INFLUX OF WORKERS THAT COME IN, BUT THERE'S ALSO AN INFLUX OF WORKERS THAT DRIVE OUTSIDE OF TOWN BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A STRONG WHITE COLLAR WORKFORCE RATHER THAN BLUE COLLAR WORKFORCE.

HOW DOES THAT RELATE OR CORRELATE TO ROCKWALL, IF YOU KNOW? BECAUSE I WOULD THINK THAT THAT'S KIND OF COMMON FOR A CITY OUR SIZE, THE GOING OUT.

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ROCKWALL HAS THE VERY, VERY SIMILAR DRIVERS COMMUTE BECAUSE THERE ARE SUBURBS OF MESQUITE AND DALLAS.

SO WE SEE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE DRIVING FROM ROCKWALL INTO DALLAS.

BUT THEY AGAIN, THEY HAVE AN INDUSTRIAL SECTOR THAT'S VERY SIMILAR TO OURS, AND THEN THEY HAVE OUTLYING COMMUNITIES THAT ARE VERY SIMILAR TO OURS WITH ROYSE CITY, FATE, FORNEY AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE THAT MAY DRIVE INTO THEIR COMMUNITY.

I DIDN'T DIVE REAL DEEP INTO THEIR STUFF, BUT I KIND OF KEEP A THUMB ON THEM EVERY NOW AND THEN.

SO POTENTIAL OCCUPATION GAPS KIND OF TAKEN AWAY FROM FROM THAT DATA ANALYSIS.

YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT WE HAVE A STRONG WHITE COLLAR WORKFORCE, SO WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT HIGHER PAYING JOBS, HEALTH CARE, BUSINESS MANAGEMENT POSITIONS, COMPUTER SCIENCE, INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY, ENGINEERING, ARCHITECTURE FIRMS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE WHERE WHITE COLLAR WORKFORCE WOULD BE ABLE TO ATTRACT TO.

SO SUCCESS STORY, I KNOW MAYOR PRO TEM ASKED FOR THIS KIND OF SUCCESS STORY OF HIGH POINT BUSINESS PARK LAST TIME THE EDC INVESTED A LITTLE BIT OVER $9 MILLION INTO 91 ACRES AND SOME CHANGE BACK IN 2015, IF I BELIEVE, FOR A LAND PURCHASE.

AND THAT'S BEEN EXPANDED BY PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT TO 230 ACRES.

FROM THAT 9.3 WE ARE HIGHPOINT BUSINESS PARK AS A WHOLE HAS CREATED OVER 700 JOBS IN THE BUSINESS PARK.

150 MILLION HAS BEEN ADDED TO THE TAX ROLLS.

3 MILLION HAS BEEN ALLOCATED SALES TAX ADDED TO THE SALES TAX.

AND WE'VE SEEN AN $18 MILLION RETURN AFTER 20 YEARS IN THE HIGH POINT BUSINESS PARK.

CHISHOLM SUMMIT, JUST KIND OF TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THE SUCCESS STORIES THAT WE'VE SEEN OVER THE LAST YEAR, YEAR AND A HALF.

CHISHOLM SUMMIT. I'M PRETTY SURE WE ALL WELL KNOWN.

WE SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON IT AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON IT.

IT'S APPROXIMATELY 915 ACRES, OVER 3100 RESIDENTIAL UNITS.

OVER $1,000,000,000 ADDED TO THE TAX VALUE AT FULL BUILDOUT.

AND EVERY DOLLAR OF EXPENDITURE, THE CITY WILL RECEIVE A $1.66 AT FULL BUILD OUT TO 3.3 MILLION NET BENEFIT PER YEAR AT BUILDOUT ONCE IT'S COMPLETE. EXCUSE ME, HOOPER BUSINESS PARK, THE EDC, WE'VE, WE'VE BOUGHT 102 ACRES OUT OFF OF 1902 NEXT TO CHISHOLM SUMMIT.

IT'S BEEN FUNDED BY THE 4A FUNDS AND SUPPORTS THE CHISHOLM SUMMIT INFRASTRUCTURE IN EXACTLY KIND OF FROM THE DATA ANALYSIS.

THIS IS DESIGNED TO ACHIEVE THE GOAL OF RAISING THE LOCAL WAGES AND CREATING SPACE FOR THAT WHITE COLLAR WORKFORCE TO BE ABLE TO GET JOBS IN OUR COMMUNITY.

NEW TO MARKET RETAIL RECRUITMENT.

OVER THE LAST YEAR, WE'VE SEEN HEIM BARBECUE, RAZOO'S, ALLEY CATS JUST KIND OF GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON ALLEY CATS, THEY CLOSED ON THE DIRT SO THEY ARE LANDOWNERS IN THE CITY OF BURLESON AS OF YESTERDAY SO THAT WAS A BIG DAY FOR US.

BURLESON VILLAGE, IT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

IT'S THE OLD CHURCH ACROSS PROPERTY.

THERE'S A LOT OF ACTIVITY GOING ON IN THAT PROPERTY RIGHT NOW.

SO THERE'LL BE JUST ONE, TWO, THREE.

THERE'S SIX SALES TAX USERS THAT WILL BE GOING ON THAT PROPERTY THAT HASN'T SEEN SALES TAX OR PROPERTY TAX COME OFF THAT PROPERTY SINCE THE SEVENTIES.

SO IT'LL BE GOOD TO SEE SOME RETURN ON THAT.

THE OLD CHURCH ACROSS PROPERTY.

YES, SIR. SO KEY FOCUS AREAS THAT WE WANT TO FOCUS ON MOVING FORWARD, INCREASE INDUSTRIAL GROWTH BECAUSE HIGHPOINT BUSINESS PARK IS JUST ABOUT BUILT OUT, EXPAND EXISTING HIGHPOINT OR IDENTIFY SOME NEW INDUSTRIAL LOCATIONS.

PARTNERSHIP TO PROVIDE EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES, SUPPORT THE GROWING INDUSTRIES, THE OFFICE PARK OPPORTUNITIES, KEEP PURSUING THOSE.

AS CHISHOLM SUMMIT GETS DEVELOPED IN THE ROADWAY, WE'LL BE ABLE TO START MARKETING THOSE PROPERTIES OUT THERE, RECRUIT MEDICAL AND PROFESSIONAL OFFICE TENANTS, EXPAND RETAIL RECRUITMENT, CONTINUE TO TARGET AND RECRUIT NEW TO MARKET RETAILERS AND RESTAURANTS THAT OUR RESIDENTS DESIRE.

LOOK AT THE KEY CORRIDORS THAT WE'RE DOING TODAY.

174, HOW CAN WE REDEVELOP SOME OF THE STUFF THAT'S BEEN RUN DOWN? HOW CAN WE PARTNER WITH DEVELOPERS TO BRING IN NEW TO MARKET STUFF LIKE WE'VE DONE AT WHERE THE OLD CHURCH ACROSS WHERE THAT CONSTRUCTION IS GOING ON TODAY IN A PARTNERSHIP WITH A DEVELOPER.

SO SOME OF THE POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE WANT TO INCLUDE IN OUR STRATEGIC PLAN MOVING FORWARD.

THERE'S FOUR OF THEM THAT WE REALLY WANT TO INCLUDE AND KIND OF GET YOUR FEEDBACK ON IF YOU THINK THESE ARE GOOD OR NO GOOD OR HEY, LET'S TRY SOMETHING ELSE.

WE'D LIKE TO INCREASE THE AVERAGE ANNUAL WAGE BY 15% BY 2024 FOR THE AVERAGE WAGE IN TOWN FROM ALMOST THAT 51,000 MARK

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TO $59,000.

INITIATIVE NUMBER TWO TO INCREASE THE PERCENTAGE OF JOBS PAYING $75,000 OR MORE ANNUALLY FROM 10% TO 12%.

SO GETTING 383 ADDITIONAL JOBS THAT PAY THAT 75,000 OR MORE BY 2024, ADD 15% TAXABLE APPRAISED VALUE FOR COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT BY 2024.

AND THEN INITIATIVE NUMBER FOUR, WE WOULD LIKE TO INCREASE THE SALES TAX PER CAPITA BY 5% FROM 490 TO $516 BY 2024.

SO I'LL TAKE ANY COMMENTS, RECONSIDERATIONS OR ANY OTHER GOALS YOU WOULD LIKE TO PUT OUT THERE FOR US.

I THINK NUMBER FOUR, YOU'RE SHOOTING A LITTLE LOW AT A CURRENT INFLATION RATE.

YOU'RE GOING TO HIT THAT NUMBER THIS YEAR.

I WAS HOPING FOR A GIMME.

NO, I'M JUST KIDDING. YOU WERE HOPING FOR WHAT? A GIMME. WELL, YOU DIDN'T GET IT.

AND I KNOW AS LONG AS YOU INDEX IT.

YEAH, BY THE INFLATION RATE.

YES, SIR. THAT EIGHT AND A HALF PERCENT ANNUAL INFLATION YOU'RE ALREADY AT, YOU'RE GOING TO INCREASE YOUR SALES TAX ON EVERYTHING.

HOW DO YOU DO? WHAT'S THE STRATEGY FOR INITIATIVE NUMBER ONE? LIKE HOW DO YOU ACTUALLY HELP TO INCREASE THE ANNUAL WAGE? SO IT'S BASICALLY IN OUR RECRUITMENT EFFORTS FOR INDUSTRIAL OR CORPORATE OF MAKING SURE THOSE WAGES THAT THEY'RE WANTING TO PAY NEW EMPLOYEES, THAT WE IF WE HAVE AN INCENTIVE AGREEMENT, WE CAN INCENTIVIZE THEM OR IT'S PART OF THEM RAISING WAGES ON THEIR END THAT WE WHERE WE CAN START GETTING HIGHER PAY IN WAGES.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THAT? OKAY. SO LOOKING AT OUR FIVE.

I'M SORRY. I'M SORRY.

I GOT ONE QUESTION. HOW IS THE, YOU KNOW, THE JOB SITUATION WITH PEOPLE WORKING FROM HOME? HOW IS HOW IS THAT PLAYING INTO THINGS? SO WE'RE SEEING A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE WORKING FROM HOME.

I DON'T HAVE A NUMBER BECAUSE NO ONE'S REALLY TRACKING IT.

I MEAN, THERE'S PERCENTAGES ALL OVER THE MAP AND STUDIES, BUT IT IS IMPACTFUL, YOU KNOW, OF PEOPLE WORKING FROM HOME THAT MAY BE HOME OFFICE, MAYBE IN ANOTHER STATE THAT LIVE HERE IN TOWN THAT MAYBE WAS WORKING, YOU KNOW, IN THE SERVICE INDUSTRY.

AND THAT'S AFFECTED. THAT'S AFFECTED BY OUR BROADBAND PLAN THAT WE'VE GOT WITH THE UNITED CO-OP AND SOME OF THAT LIKE A BIG DEAL.

I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT VARIABLES IN THE LABOR SITUATION, BUT I THINK THE BIGGEST ONE FOR THE STATE OF TEXAS IS THERE'S SO MANY COMPANIES MOVING HERE.

IT'S JUST CHIPPING AWAY AT THE LABOR THE LABOR HERE.

AND IT'S WE'RE GETTING MORE INVOLVED WITH SCHOOLS, I MEAN, EVEN DOWN TO THE ELEMENTARY LEVEL OF GETTING THEM CONNECTED TO BURLESON BUSINESSES AND MANUFACTURING.

THAT WAY, THEY YOU KIND OF START YOUR OWN FARM SYSTEM, KIND OF, YOU KNOW, LIKE BASEBALL MAY DO, BUT YOU JUST TRY TO KEEP THEM ATTACHED TO THE COMMUNITY THE BEST YOU CAN.

I APPRECIATE YOUR NUMBERS.

I LIKE IT. NO PROBLEM.

SO LOOKING AT THE FIVE YEAR OVERVIEW, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE THE 4A FUND IS PRETTY HEALTHY OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS AND WE'LL HAVE SOME PROJECTS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE BRINGING TO YOU GUYS TO CONSIDER TO GET COUNCIL DIRECTION AND WHERE WE CAN IMPACT THIS FINANCIAL OVERVIEW.

ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS AND WE CAN USE FOR A ALSO PIGGYBACKING OFF OF THE HOT/MOT FOR [INAUDIBLE] RIGHT.

I BELIEVE SO. Y'ALL GOOD? THANK YOU. FOR THE RECORD, BEFORE YOU GET AWAY FROM IT, I'M GOING TO REITERATE THAT IF I SEE A $16 MILLION FUND BALANCE IN 2026, I'M NOT GOING TO BE HAPPY ABOUT THAT.

WE'VE GOT TO GET THAT MONEY OUT THERE, TRUST ME.

AND I KNOW YOU CAN'T PREDICT 380 AGREEMENTS THAT HAVEN'T SURFACED YET.

BUT I GOT WE GOT SOME PLANS FOR YOU.

I KNOW YOU DO. I KNOW YOU DO, JUST GOING TO SAY I'M HAPPY WITH EVERYTHING YOU'RE SAYING.

IF YOU GOT $16 MILLION IN THE BANK IN 2026, YOU'RE NOT DOING YOUR JOB.

YEAH, AND I WON'T BE HERE.

THANK YOU, GUYS. NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS ITEM 3B, RECEIVE A REPORT, HOLD A DISCUSSION, AND GIVE STAFF DIRECTION REGARDING THE DESIGN, PURPOSE AND GOAL OF

[B. Receive a report, hold a discussion, and give staff direction regarding the design, purpose and goal of the city's new lean government initiative. (Staff Presenter: Jesse Elizondo, Director of Customer Service)]

THE CITY'S NEW LEAN GOVERNMENT INITIATIVE.

STAFF PRESENTER IS JESSE ELIZONDO, DIRECTOR CUSTOMER SERVICE.

JESSE.

ALL RIGHT, GOOD MORNING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

AT THE BEGINNING OF JANUARY, THE NEWLY CREATED CUSTOMER SERVICE DEPARTMENT GAVE YOU ALL A PRESENTATION OF NOT ONLY CURRENT PROJECTS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON, BUT ALSO PROJECTS THAT WE HAD COMING UP IN THE FUTURE.

THE BURLESON LEAN GOVERNMENT INITIATIVE WAS ONE OF THOSE PROJECTS, BUT IN THAT PRESENTATION WE JUST BARELY TOUCHED ON WHAT IT WAS.

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SO I'M HERE THIS MORNING TO GIVE YOU A MORE IN-DEPTH LOOK AT THAT AT THAT PROJECT, SPECIFICALLY WHAT LEAN METHODOLOGY IS, HOW WE INTEND TO UTILIZE THE METHODOLOGY, WHAT WE'VE DONE SO FAR ON THE PROJECT, AND THEN WHERE WE SEE THE PROJECT GOING NOT ONLY IN THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR, BUT WHAT'S COMING EVEN AFTER THAT.

SO WE'LL JUMP RIGHT INTO IT.

AND FOR ANYONE THAT'S WATCHING THAT MAY NOT KNOW, THE LEAN METHODOLOGY STARTED AFTER WORLD WAR TWO IN THE LINE MANUFACTURING INDUSTRY.

IT WAS STARTED BY TOYOTA COMPANY.

AND WHAT IT IS IS A WAY OF CONTINUOUSLY IMPROVING PROCESSES BY TRYING TO ACHIEVE PERFECT VALUE WITH THE RESOURCES YOU HAVE.

AND THE WAY THAT IT DOES THIS IS IT LOOKS AT WAYS OF REDUCING WASTE IN WASTE, IN PROCESSES WASTE IN RESOURCES, WASTE AND INEFFECTIVE TECHNOLOGY AND BY ELIMINATING NON VALUE ADDED STEPS THROUGH PROCESSES.

AND WHEN YOU WORK THROUGH THE METHODOLOGY AND GO THROUGH ALL THESE DIFFERENT STEPS, IT CAN CREATE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF GAINS, COST REDUCTION IN SOME CASES, REVENUE GENERATION AND EFFICIENCIES AND ULTIMATELY BETTER CUSTOMER SERVICE FOR STAKEHOLDERS AND CUSTOMERS.

SINCE THEN, THE LEAN METHODOLOGY AND WORKING THROUGH THESE STEPS HAS GROWN AND HAS BEEN IS NOW UTILIZED IN ALMOST EVERY MAJOR SECTOR ACROSS BUSINESS, AND MORE RECENTLY IT'S BEEN ADOPTED AND USED WITHIN GOVERNMENT PROCESSES.

THERE WAS A STORY IN THE WALL STREET JOURNAL AT THE END OF 2021 THAT KIND OF OUTLINES THE LEAN METHODOLOGY IN A REALLY COOL WAY.

IT WAS RELATED TO GE, THE COMPANY GE.

THEY HAD GOT A NEW CEO THAT WAS TRAINED AND IN LEAN METHODOLOGIES AND PROCESSES, LARRY CULP.

AND HE CAME IN AND HE WAS LOOKING AT A PLANT THAT WAS THAT WAS CREATING THOSE GIANT BLADES THAT YOU SEE ON THE HIGHWAY SOMETIMES THAT GO ON THOSE WIND TURBINES.

AND SO THIS PLANT WAS A LARGE PLANT, AND HE WENT IN AND BASED ON WHAT HE KNEW OF LEAN METHODOLOGY AND THE PROCESS, HE EVALUATED THAT THIS PLANT, HE SAW A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF INEFFICIENCIES AND NON VALUE ADDED STEPS AND HE WANTED TO KNOW ONCE HE LOOKED AT IT, HOW LONG IT TOOK TO CREATE ONE OF THESE BLADES FROM START TO FINISH, AND SPECIFICALLY HOW FAR THE BLADES TRAVELED FROM START TO FINISH A BACK AND FORTH ACROSS THIS PLANT FLOOR.

RIGHT. SO WHAT HE DID WAS HE MODELED THE PLANT ITSELF AND HE USED THESE LEAN METHODOLOGIES AND HE TOOK A PIECE OF STRING OR YARN AND ACTUALLY TRACED THE THE TRACK OF THESE BLADES AS THEY'RE CREATED.

AND I HAVE A LITTLE CLIP FROM THE ARTICLE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE SLIDE.

YOU CAN READ IT THAT WHAT HE FOUND WAS THAT THE BLADES THEMSELVES WERE TAKING 85 DAYS TO GET COMPLETED.

AND THE JOURNEY THAT THEY TRAVELED ALL BACK AND FORTH ALONG THIS PLANT FLOOR WAS ACTUALLY THEY WERE ACTUALLY TRAVELING THREE MILES FROM START TO FINISH.

SO WHAT HE DID WAS HE RIPPED OUT ALL THE HE STOPPED THE PLANT.

HE SHUT DOWN THE PLANT, WHICH WAS CONTROVERSIAL, AND HE RIPPED OUT ALL THE EQUIPMENT AND THEY PUT IN NEW EQUIPMENT USING, IN SOME CASES, BETTER TECHNOLOGY.

AND HE ARRANGED THE EQUIPMENT USING THESE LEAN THIS LEAN PROCESS AND LEAN METHODOLOGY.

AND WHEN HE FINISHED, YOU CAN SEE RIGHT THERE THEY HAD A 42% INCREASE IN PRODUCTIVITY TIME AND THE BLADES THEMSELVES FROM START TO FINISH WERE ONLY TRAVELING 165 FEET VERSUS THREE MILES, WHICH IS WHICH IS A HUGE PRODUCTIVITY IMPROVEMENT AND ALSO COST SAVINGS FOR THEM, I'M SURE.

BUT YOU MIGHT BE ASKING YOURSELF, WHAT DO GIANT BLADES THAT GO ON WIND TURBINES HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH GOVERNMENT PROCESSES? WELL, THE METHODOLOGIES OF PROCESSES IS THE SAME.

RIGHT. SO WE HAVE A LARGE ORGANIZATION HERE WITH PLENTY OF EMPLOYEES, WITH TONS OF EMPLOYEES AND DEPARTMENTS THAT DO A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF THINGS ACROSS DIFFERENT FIELDS.

AND IF YOU TAKE INTO ACCOUNT HOW LONG THE CITY HAS BEEN AROUND AS WELL, THESE PROCESSES NATURALLY OVER TIME THEY GROW AND GROW AND GROW AS EMPLOYEES TURN OVER, AS TECHNOLOGY COMES IN AND THEN GETS OLD.

AND IF YOU NEVER TAKE A STEP BACK AND LOOK AT THESE PROCESSES FROM EVERYONE'S POINT OF VIEW AS THEY'RE ASSESSING THEIR PART OF THE PROCESS, IT SEEMS LIKE THEY'RE JUST DOING THEIR JOB. BUT YOU.

GET THIS PROCESS CREEP AT A CERTAIN POINT, WHICH IS THE THREE MILE BACK AND FORTH ACROSS THE ACROSS THE PLANT, RIGHT WHERE THE PROCESS IS GROW AND GROW AND GROW AND GROW.

AND NATURALLY, THE THOUGHT IS TO GET THESE PROCESSES COMPLETED, WE NEED MORE RESOURCES.

AND SO YOU ASK FOR MORE RESOURCES AND MORE RESOURCES WHEN REALLY JUST TAKE A STEP BACK AND LOOK AT THESE PROCESSES FROM A LEAN METHODOLOGY.

YOU CAN ACTUALLY LEAN THEM DOWN AND HAVE THEM MORE EFFICIENT.

AND THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHAT THE BURLESON LEAN INITIATIVE, LEAN GOVERNMENT INITIATIVE IS.

I WON'T BURY THE LEAD WITH WHAT IT IS AND TELL YOU ALL WHAT IT IS AT THE VERY END.

I'LL TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, IT'S A SERIES OF CONTINUOUS PROCESS IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS WITHIN DEPARTMENTS AND IN SOME CASES DEPENDING ON THE PROJECT, CROSS-DEPARTMENTAL PROJECTS WHERE TEAMS OF EMPLOYEES GET TOGETHER AND THEY TAKE ON THEY TAKE ON PROJECTS USING THESE LEAN METHODOLOGIES AND THESE LEAN STEPS TO ESSENTIALLY LOOK AT THESE PROCESSES FOR PRODUCTIVITY IMPROVEMENT, FOR COST SAVINGS, FOR COST CONTAINMENT, FOR REVENUE GENERATION, FOR EFFICIENCY, AND ULTIMATELY BETTER CUSTOMER SERVICE FOR OUR CITIZENS AND OUR TAXPAYERS.

AND WHILE THEY'RE DOING THIS, WHILE THEY'RE LOOKING INTO THESE PROCESSES, THEY'RE ALSO BEING TRAINED, EDUCATED AND EMPOWERED WITH THESE THIS LEAN METHODOLOGY AND WITH THE

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KNOWLEDGE OF THESE TOOLS SO THAT THEY CAN GO BACK, NOT ONLY UTILIZE THEM IN THE PROJECTS THAT THEY'RE WORKING ON, SPECIFICALLY IN THE LEAN INITIATIVE, BUT THEN ONCE THEY GO BACK TO THEIR REGULAR JOBS DOING THEIR EVERYDAY WORK, THEY CAN UTILIZE THESE METHODOLOGIES TO LOOK AT PROCESSES ALL OVER THE CITY.

SO ESSENTIALLY WE'RE TRYING TO COME IN A WAY, WE'RE TRYING TO COMBAT THAT OLD ADAGE, WHICH IS THE REASON WE DO IT THIS WAY IS BECAUSE WE'VE ALWAYS DONE IT THIS WAY.

THAT'S THAT PROCESS CREEP THAT GROWS AND GROWS AND GROWS.

AND WE'RE EMPOWERING AND TRAINING OUR EMPLOYEES ACROSS THE WHOLE ORGANIZATION TO HAVE A CULTURAL SHIFT IN MINDSET SO THAT THEY CAN LOOK AT NOT ONLY THE PROJECTS THAT WE THAT ARE PUT BEFORE THEM, BUT THEIR EVERYDAY WORK LIVES, LOOK AT THE PROCESSES THAT THEY'RE USING AND USE THESE TO BE MORE EFFICIENT.

WE ACTUALLY HAVE OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS, PUT A CROSS-DEPARTMENTAL TEAM TOGETHER AND WORKED THROUGH START TO FINISH ONE OF THESE PROJECTS HERE IN BURLESON.

NOW I'LL ADMIT THE PROJECT THAT WE LOOKED AT WAS SPECIFICALLY SMALLER IN SCOPE AND SCALE THAN WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING FOR THE BURLESON INITIATIVE GOING FORWARD.

BUT WE WANTED TO GET A TEAM TOGETHER AND WORK THROUGH THIS PROCESS AND WORK THROUGH THIS METHODOLOGY AND HAVE IT COMPLETED AS A JUMPING OFF POINT, AS A FIRST PROJECT AND ALSO AS AN EXAMPLE TO SHOW EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

SO WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS RUN THROUGH THAT PROJECT A HIGH OVERVIEW.

IT'LL BE QUICK, BUT A HIGH OVERVIEW OF THE PROJECT AND WHAT THEY DID, AND THEN GO INTO WHAT WE SEE THE PROJECT, THE INITIATIVE GOING ON IN THE FUTURE.

SO WE'LL GET STARTED.

HERE WAS OUR CROSS-DEPARTMENTAL TEAM.

THESE ARE THE NAMES OF THE PEOPLE THAT WORKED HARD ON IT.

WE HAD 7 TO 8 DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS THAT PARTICIPATED IN IT, AND THE FIRST THING WE DID WAS GET THIS TEAM SOME AWARENESS TRAINING, SOME TRAINING ON LEAN METHODOLOGIES AND THE PROCESSES, HOW THEY'RE GOING TO WORK THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

AND THEN THE NEXT THING THE TEAM DID WAS WE HAD A LIST OF PROJECTS, AT LEAST THREE OR FOUR PER DEPARTMENT AND SOME CROSS DEPARTMENTAL PROJECTS THAT THEY TOOK A LOOK AT.

AND WE GAVE THAT WE GAVE THEM, WE TOLD THEM THAT THIS IS A SMALLER IN SIZE AND SCALE PROJECT.

WE WANTED TO BE ABLE TO WORK THROUGH IT IN A MONTH, A COUPLE OF MONTHS.

SO THEY PICKED A FEW PROJECTS THAT FIT THOSE PARAMETERS, ACTUALLY NINE AND THEY EVALUATED THOSE ON AN IMPACT EFFORT MATRIX, AS YOU CAN SEE RIGHT THERE.

AND ANY PROJECTS THAT WERE HIGH IMPACT AND HIGH EFFORT, PROBABLY WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A LITTLE BIT LONGER.

SO THEY PUT THOSE OFF TO THE SIDE AND ANY THAT WERE HIGH EFFORT, LOW IMPACT, HIGH EFFORT, LOW IMPACT PROBABLY DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH IMPACT TO TO REALLY GO AFTER. AND SO THEY SPECIFICALLY LOOKED AT SOME THIS TEAM SPECIFICALLY LOOKED AT THE ONES THAT WERE LOW EFFORT, HIGH IMPACT.

I THINK I GOT ALL THAT RIGHT.

SO THE ONE THAT THEY CHOSE WAS NUMBER SEVEN AND I'LL JUMP RIGHT INTO THE PROCESS.

THEY WORKED THROUGH A LEAN METHODOLOGY PROCESS OF DEFINE, MEASURE, ANALYZE, IMPROVE AND CONTROL.

NOW, THERE ARE SOME VERY SPECIFIC A LOT THERE'S A LOT OF DATA ANALYTICAL STEPS WITHIN EACH ONE OF THESE PROCESSES.

I'M NOT GOING TO GO INTO FOR THE SAKE OF TIME, I'M NOT GOING TO GO INTO DETAIL IN EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE.

BUT I'LL GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT THEY DID IN EACH STEP, WHICH GIVES A GREAT EXAMPLE OF HOW YOU WORK THROUGH THESE PROCESSES.

SO FOR THE DEFINED PHASE, THEY HAD TO DEFINE THE PROJECT.

AND THE PROJECT THAT THEY DECIDED THE TEAM DECIDED TO LOOK AT WAS THE TIME IT TAKES FOR A PURCHASE ORDER FROM A DEPARTMENT TO FROM THE START OF THE PURCHASE ORDER TO BE APPROVED AND READY FOR PAYMENT.

RIGHT. AND SO EVERY DEPARTMENT, ANY TIME THAT THEY NEED TO PURCHASE SOMETHING, THEY HAVE TO SUBMIT A PURCHASE ORDER.

WE HAVE TECHNOLOGICAL CHECKS AND BALANCES AND SIGNATURE AUTHORITIES THAT IT HAS TO GO THROUGH.

AND ULTIMATELY, THE TEAM THAT WAS LOOKING AT THIS PROJECT THOUGHT THAT PROCESS WAS TAKING TOO LONG.

RIGHT. SO THEY DEFINED THEY DEFINE THE THE PROJECT AS IMPROVE THE TIME IT TAKES TO GET A PURCHASE ORDER FROM START TO FINISH.

AND THEN IN THE MEASURE PHASE, THEY HAD TO ACTUALLY SEE WHETHER THIS WAS AN ACTUAL PROBLEM.

IT COULD HAVE BEEN A PERCEIVED PROBLEM.

MAYBE IT WASN'T ACTUALLY TAKING THAT LONG, IT JUST SEEMED LIKE IT.

AND SO THEY HAD TO PULL DATA FROM SEVERAL DIFFERENT SOURCES THROUGHOUT THE CITY, AND THEY QUALIFIED THE ACTUAL NUMBERS OF HOW LONG IT TAKES TO GET THESE PURCHASE ORDERS THROUGH.

AND SO WHAT THEY CAME UP WITH WAS IT WAS TAKING 9.4, NINE DAYS TO GET THESE PURCHASE ORDERS THROUGH FROM START TO FINISH, WHICH THEY DID AGREE THAT IS A LONG TIME TO GET A PURCHASE ORDER THROUGH RIGHT.

AND WHEN THEY STARTED MEASURING, THEY ALSO REALIZED THAT A HUGE PART OF THESE PURCHASE ORDERS TAKING A LONG TIME WAS THAT THERE WERE SOME INACCURACIES IN SOME SPECIFIC AREAS, AND A LOT OF THEM WERE BECAUSE THEY WERE INACCURATE OR BEING SENT BACK AND IT WAS TAKING SEVERAL DAYS.

SO THEY ACTUALLY IN THE MEASURE PHASE, THEY ACTUALLY SET FORTH THAT THEY FOUND OUT IT WAS TAKING 10% OF THE PURCHASE ORDERS WERE BEING SENT BACK INACCURATE.

SO THEY WANTED TO LOOK AT GETTING THE INACCURACIES DOWN.

I THINK THEY PULLED SOMETHING LIKE 860 SOME ODD PURCHASE ORDERS ACROSS A YEAR AND PLOTTED THEM OUT AT ONE FISCAL YEAR.

AND THEN WHEN THEY JUMPED INTO THE ANALYZE IMPROVE PHASE, THEY STARTED ACTUALLY WORKING THROUGH THE PROCESS.

AND SO THIS IS WHERE A LOT OF THE TECHNICAL AND PROCESS IMPROVEMENT STEPS COME IN THOSE PROCESS MAPS ON THE LEFT.

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THAT BOTTOM ONE IS A SNAPSHOT OF THE ACTUAL PROCESS STEPS OF A PURCHASE ORDER PROJECT.

SO THAT'S OUTLINING EVERY SINGLE STEP FROM START TO FINISH.

THIS IS THAT THREE MILE LINE IN THE PLANT, RIGHT? AS YOU SIT DOWN AND YOU START LOOKING AT IT, WHEN YOU START GOING THROUGH THE ACTUAL STEPS, ONE BY ONE BY ONE, IT GOES HERE, IT GOES TO THIS DEPARTMENT, IT COMES BACK THE NON VALUE ADDED STEPS AND THE WASTE IN THE PROCESS IS REALLY JUMP OUT AT YOU, ESPECIALLY ON CROSS-DEPARTMENTAL PROJECTS BECAUSE NORMALLY IN A CROSS DEPARTMENTAL PROJECT, EVERY, EVERY EMPLOYEE IS DOING ONE THING RIGHT.

SO WHEN IT COMES TO THEIR DESK, THEY DO THIS ONE THING AND THEY MOVE IT ON.

IT REALLY TAKES A TEAM OF PEOPLE TO STEP BACK AND LOOK AT THESE PROJECTS TO TO MAP OUT THE ENTIRE PROCESS.

AND WHEN YOU DO, IT'S REMARKABLE WHAT JUMPS OUT AT YOU AND YOU SAY, WOW, DO WE REALLY NEED TO BE DOING THAT? OR WHY DO WE DO THIS INSTEAD OF DOING THIS? WHICH WOULD TAKE MUCH LESS TIME.

SO THE PROCESS MAP FOR THE PURCHASE ORDER IS ON THE FRONT THERE.

THE VENDOR VERIFICATION, WHICH IS A PART OF WHICH IS A PART OF THE PROCESS, IS ON THE BACK.

AND THEN THEY CHARTED HISTOGRAM CHARTS WHERE THEY PLOT OUT EVERY SINGLE PIECE OF DATA THAT GOES ALL THE PURCHASE ORDERS THAT CAME THROUGH ACROSS THE WHOLE YEAR.

THEY LOOK FOR OUTLIERS, THEY LOOK FOR TRENDS, THEY LOOK FOR MEASUREMENTS INSIDE OF IT.

THERE WAS ACTUALLY A LOT OF WORK AND ANALYTICAL DATA THAT WENT INTO THE ANALYZE AND IMPROVE PHASE, BUT OVERALL THEY FOUND IN THAT PHASE THAT THERE WERE THREE MAIN AREAS THAT THEY COULD GET SOME REAL VALUE OUT OF.

IT WAS THE VENDOR VERIFICATION PROCESS, THE PROCESS OF QUALIFYING A VENDOR AND MAKING SURE THAT ALL THE DATA FROM THE VENDOR IS CORRECT, AND THEN THE SIGNATURE AUTHORITY PROCESS AND THEN SOME BASIC POLICIES AND TRAINING THAT THEY THOUGHT COULD HELP SPEED THE PROCESS UP.

I WANT TO GIVE JUST A COUPLE EXAMPLES OF SOME OF THE STUFF THEY LOOKED AT JUST BECAUSE SOME OF IT IS VERY SIMPLE.

BUT AGAIN, IT'S ONE OF THOSE EXAMPLES OF IF YOU DON'T STOP AND TAKE A LOOK AT SOME OF THESE PROCESSES, YOU'LL NEVER NOTICE THEM.

AND IT MAKES A TREMENDOUS DIFFERENCE.

SO THE SIGNATURE AUTHORITY PROCESS, AS AN EXAMPLE, WE HAVE A SYSTEM OF CHECKS AND BALANCES FOR FOR SIGNING, FOR PURCHASE ORDERS, HAS TO WORK ITS WAY THROUGH SEVERAL LEVELS OF THE ORGANIZATION IN OUR SYSTEM THAT THOSE LEVELS ARE SET UP AS A DEFAULT.

SO IT'S, LET'S SAY, FOUR LEVELS OF SIGNATURE AUTHORITY.

WELL, EVERY DEPARTMENT ITSELF, THESE THESE ARE SPREAD ACROSS EVERY SINGLE DEPARTMENT.

EVERY DEPARTMENT ITSELF IS DIFFERENT.

WE HAVE DEPARTMENTS THAT HAVE SEVERAL DEPUTY DIRECTORS.

WE HAVE DEPARTMENTS THAT HAVE ZERO DEPUTY DIRECTORS.

WE HAVE DIFFERENT MANAGEMENT LEVELS IN SOME DEPARTMENTS, NO MANAGERS IN OTHER DEPARTMENTS.

AND WE WERE PUTTING THIS ONE DEFAULT SIGNATURE AUTHORITY ACROSS EVERY DEPARTMENT.

AND SO A LOT OF TIMES IT WOULD GET STUCK IN THE PROCESS BECAUSE THERE WAS NO DEPUTY DIRECTOR TO SIGN FOR IT OR THERE WAS NO MANAGERS ASSIGNED FOR IT.

AND IN SOME CASES IT WOULD TAKE A DAY OR TWO DAYS JUST SITTING THERE FOR SOMEONE TO PHYSICALLY LOOK AT IT AND GO, OH, THERE'S NO ONE, THERE'S NO DIRECTOR, DEPUTY DIRECTOR IN THAT DEPARTMENT. GO OVER THERE AND MANUALLY TELL THEM TO PUSH IT THROUGH AND THEY'D PUSH IT THROUGH AND BUT IT WOULD AGAIN, WE'RE TRYING TO GET THE AVERAGE DAYS DOWN FOR PURCHASE ORDERS, SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS THAT.

AND WHEN THE TEAM LOOKED AT IT, SOMEONE ASKED THE QUESTION, DO WE HAVE AN ALERT THAT TELLS THEM THAT THERE'S A SIGNATURE WAITING TO BE TO BE APPROVED? AND THE ANSWER WAS NO. THERE WAS NO ALERT THAT SAID, HEY, THERE'S A SIGNATURE WAITING FOR YOU.

AND SO SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS ADDING AN ALERT THAT SAYS A SIGNATURE, A APPROVALS WAITING FOR YOU COULD TAKE 1 TO 2 DAYS OFF THE PROCESS.

SO THESE ARE LITTLE THINGS THAT YOU WOULD THINK, OH, THAT'S A NO BRAINER.

BUT WHEN YOU HAVE A PROCESS THIS LARGE THAT GOES THROUGH SO MANY DEPARTMENTS UNTIL YOU STEP BACK AND LOOK AT IT IN AN INITIATIVE LIKE THIS, YOU WOULD NEVER SEE THOSE THINGS AND YOU JUST CONTINUE TO DO IT AND IT GROWS AND GROWS AND GROWS.

RIGHT. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT WE ONE OF A BIG PART OF THE VENDOR VERIFICATION PROCESS THAT THEY LOOKED AT THAT THEY COULD FIND TREMENDOUS EFFICIENCY IN, WAS THE INEFFECTIVE USE OF TECHNOLOGY.

SO WE HAVE AN OLD ERP SYSTEM.

YOU ALL KNOW THAT YOU'VE APPROVED A BRAND NEW ERP SYSTEM THAT'S CURRENTLY BEING IMPLEMENTED ACROSS FINANCE RIGHT NOW.

ONE OF THE BIG BENEFITS OF AN INITIATIVE LIKE THIS IS WHEN THEY WERE LOOKING AT THE VERIFICATION PROCESS, THEY NOTICED SEVERAL THINGS THAT TO BE BUILT INTO THE VENDOR VERIFICATION PROCESS IN THE NEW ERP SYSTEM.

SO WHEN WE HAVE BIG PROJECTS LIKE A ROLLOUT OF AN ERP SYSTEM, WE CAN UTILIZE THIS INITIATIVE TO LOOK AT SOME OF THE EFFICIENCIES THAT WE CAN BUILD INTO THOSE SYSTEMS. THERE'S SEVERAL THINGS IN THE VENDOR VERIFICATION PROCESS THAT THIS TEAM IDENTIFIED AND THEN WENT BACK AS IT RELATES TO PURCHASE ORDERS AND TALK TO THE TEAM THAT'S IMPLEMENTING THE ERP TO SAY, HEY, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE ARE IN HERE BECAUSE OUR BURLESON LEAN INITIATIVE LOOKED AT IT AND THESE WILL MAKE A TREMENDOUS DIFFERENCE IN THE PURCHASE. SO AS WE DO, AS WE ROLL OUT THESE BIGGER PROJECTS LIKE THE REST OF THE ERP ROLLING OUT 311 SYSTEM, THESE TYPES OF GROUPS THAT COME TOGETHER AND LOOK AT THE EFFICIENCIES OF THESE PROCESSES THAT WE HAVE IS REALLY VALUABLE TO ADD INTO THOSE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE ROLLING OUT.

SO HERE'S A PICTURE OF OUR FIRST LEAN GOVERNMENT TEAM CREATING EFFICIENT AND EFFECTIVE GOVERNMENT PROCESSES AND HAVING FUN DOING IT, I MIGHT ADD.

THEY DID A GREAT JOB.

SO WE HAVE HISTOGRAM CHARTS, WE HAVE BACK END DATA, WE HAVE SPREADSHEETS THAT WE PULLED, WE HAVE ANALYTICS, WE HAVE PROCESS MAPS, WE HAVE ALL

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THESE DIFFERENT THINGS.

BUT ULTIMATELY, WHEN IT CAME TO REPORTING WHAT THE PROJECT WAS, THE TEAM WANTED A SIMPLE WAY TO SHOW WHAT WHAT THE ISSUE WAS, A SUMMARY OF THE PROJECT THAT THEY LOOKED AT, THE PROCESS THAT THEY WENT THROUGH, THE RESULTS AND IMPROVEMENTS THAT THEY MADE, THE NEXT STEPS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE TO CONTINUE TO CONTINUE ON EVALUATING IT, AND ALSO AS AN ADDED BENEFIT.

A NONE OF THESE PROJECTS ARE DONE IN A VACUUM, RIGHT? WE HAVE A STRATEGIC PLAN IN THE CITY THAT HAS STRATEGIC GOALS SET BY COUNCIL AND STRATEGIC FOCUS AREAS.

SO EVERY ONE OF THESE PROJECTS TIES RIGHT BACK TO A STRATEGIC FOCUS AREA AND A STRATEGIC OBJECTIVE IN OUR STRATEGIC PLAN RIGHT.

SO THEY CAME UP WITH THIS ONE PAGE AND ONE PAGE WAS ALL THEY GOT.

NO MORE THAN ONE PAGE.

ONE PAGE, EASY TO NAVIGATE CHARTER DOCUMENT THAT AT THE END OF THE PROJECT THEY OUTLINED EXACTLY THAT.

THE PRIMARY ISSUE THAT THEY WERE LOOKING AT RIGHT.

AND EACH ONE OF YOU HAS ONE OF THESE IN FRONT OF YOU, I BELIEVE.

THE PRIMARY ISSUE THAT THEY WERE LOOKING AT, A SUMMARY OF THE PROJECT ITSELF, THE SPECIFIC IMPROVEMENTS THAT THEY MADE RIGHT.

THE PROCESS THAT THEY WENT THROUGH, THE RESULTS WHERE THEY FOUND THE BIGGEST EFFICIENCIES AND PRODUCTIVITY IMPROVEMENTS AND COST SAVINGS, AND THEN THE NEXT STEPS OF LOOKING THROUGH IT. I WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT THE WHAT THE PROJECT DID.

AND I WANT TO BE VERY SPECIFIC ABOUT HOW WE QUALIFY SAVINGS RIGHT.

SO THEY HAD A 60% REDUCTION IN ADMINISTRATIVE DELAYS.

THAT'S HUGE, THEY GOT THAT ACCURACY RATE DOWN BELOW 5%.

AND WHICH CAN BE SOME MEASURE OF COST AVOIDANCE WITH AS YOU'RE GETTING THESE PURCHASE ORDERS THROUGH FASTER, YOU HAVE VENDORS THAT CAN START WORK FASTER.

YOU HAVE CHECKS THAT CAN BE WRITTEN FASTER.

WHEN THEY LOOKED AT PROCESS IMPROVEMENT, THEY HAD 180 STAFF HOURS WHICH ADDED UP TO AN ANNUAL $17,506 OF SOFT DOLLARS OF PRODUCTIVITY IMPROVEMENTS.

AND I WANT TO MAKE THAT THAT SPECIFIC POINT, THAT THESE ARE SOFT DOLLARS THAT'S NOT $17,000 THAT WE CAN NOW GO SPEND ON SOMETHING ELSE.

AND THE REASON WHY IS BECAUSE WE FREED UP 180 HOURS OF STAFF TIME.

NOW, THAT IS STILL VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT PROCESS CREEP AND THOSE PROCESSES GROWING AND GROWING IN THAT THREE MILE BACK AND FORTH ACROSS THE PLANT FLOOR RIGHT. WE ARE SAVING MONEY BY NOT HAVING THESE PROCESSES GROW AND GROW AND THEN ASKING FOR ADDITIONAL RESOURCES NEXT YEAR AND THEN ADDITIONAL RESOURCES THE NEXT YEAR AS THESE PROCESSES GROW. BUT THAT'S NOT ACTUAL HARD DOLLAR COST SAVINGS IN THIS CASE RIGHT.

BUT STILL, 180 STAFF HOURS FREED UP ACROSS SEVERAL DIFFERENT EMPLOYEES AND 17,500 IN COST AVOIDANCE, I MEAN, PRODUCTIVITY IMPROVEMENTS.

AND THEN AS AN EXAMPLE, I KNOW IT'S SMALL AND LIKE I SAID, THIS IS A SMALLER SCALE PROJECT WE WANTED TO GET ALL THE WAY THROUGH.

BUT AS AN EXAMPLE OF HARD DOLLAR SAVINGS, ACTUAL HARD DOLLAR SAVINGS, THERE WAS A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF MANUAL PRINTING AND BACK AND FORTH AND MANUAL SIGNATURES THAT WAS GOING ON IN A LOT OF THESE PROCESSES.

SO JUST AS AN EXAMPLE OF HARD DOLLAR SAVINGS, THEY HAD A ONE, A POSITIVE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT BY SAVING PAPER AND THEY ESTIMATED AROUND $100 A YEAR OF EXCESS PAPER NOT BEING.

SO THAT WAS THAT'S ACTUALLY $100 THAT YOU COULD GO SPEND ON SOMETHING ELSE.

NOW, LIKE I SAID, THE QUALIFICATION OF THESE SAVINGS IS VERY IMPORTANT AND I'LL TALK ABOUT IT IN JUST A SECOND.

BUT WE HAVE JOHN BUTKUS, OUR DEPUTY FINANCE DIRECTOR, IS ACTUALLY VERY WELL TRAINED IN THE LEAN METHODOLOGY AND LEAN PROCESS.

AND HE'S GOING TO BE ON OUR STEERING COMMITTEE, WHICH I'LL TALK ABOUT IN JUST A SECOND, TO HELP QUALIFY THESE SAVINGS SO THAT THEY'RE REAL SAVINGS AND NOT FLUFF SAVINGS THAT WE SAY THAT WE ACCOMPLISHED.

AND ALSO THIS LIKE I SAID, THIS WAS A SMALL PROJECT IN SCALE SO THAT WE COULD GET THROUGH IT.

BUT CHIEF FREEMAN, KT DID ME A HUGE FAVOR.

I'LL GIVE HIM KUDOS LAST WEEK WHEN HE WENT THROUGH HIS BUDGET PRESENTATION AND HE HAD A SECTION ON THERE ON COST AVOIDANCE.

AND I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT HE TALKED ABOUT, IF YOU REMEMBER, HOW THEY WERE RESTRUCTURING THEIR OVERTIME AND HOW THEY WERE GOING TO HAVE CERTAIN EMPLOYEES FILL IN BASED ON THE RANK.

AND IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, HE SAID SOMETHING LIKE, THEY'VE ALREADY SAVED AROUND $100,000 IN COST SAVINGS JUST BASED ON HOW THEY'RE DOING, STRUCTURING THE HIRING.

I MEAN, THE YEAH, THE HIRING AND HOW THEY'RE GOING TO PAY OUT OVERTIME.

AND HE SAID, I BELIEVE HE SAID IN THE FUTURE THEY EXPECT TO, TO SAVE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS.

AND THAT'S A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF THE TYPE, THE LONGER TERM AND LARGER TYPES OF PROCESSES THAT WE WANT TO LOOK AT WITH THIS INITIATIVE.

BECAUSE YEAR OVER YEAR, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS IN REAL SAVINGS.

IN FACT, THAT WOULD BE A REALLY GREAT ONE PAGE CHARTER TO WRITE UP.

IS THAT THE ISSUE THAT THEY LOOKED AT AND THE SUMMARY OF WHAT THEY DID AND THE IMPROVEMENTS AND HOW MUCH THEY EXPECT TO SAVE? I DON'T KNOW IF I JUST GAVE HIM SOME WORK TO DO.

HOPEFULLY NOT, BUT IT REALLY WOULD BE A GREAT PROJECT TO LOOK AT FROM A CHARTER STANDPOINT.

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OK. SO WHERE DO WE SEE THIS GOING IN THE FUTURE? WE HAVE THE LEAN INITIATIVE FOR THE NEXT YEAR AND BEYOND.

WE HAVE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF PROJECTS.

THIS, BY THE WAY, THIS SLIDE IS NOT MEANT TO BE DIGESTED.

THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE OF DEPARTMENTS AND THE AMOUNT OF PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE OUTLINED.

THIS IS ONE PAGE. WE ACTUALLY HAVE MULTIPLE PAGES OF PROJECTS.

AND ON TOP OF THAT, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY, AS WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS PROJECT, I HAVE HAD EMPLOYEES THIS SMALLER PROJECT WE'RE WORKING ON. I'VE HAD EMPLOYEES FROM EVERY LEVEL OF THE ORGANIZATION, NO JOKE, STICK THEIR HEAD IN MY DOOR AND SAY, HEY, YOU'RE WORKING ON THAT LEAN GOVERNMENT THING.

AND I'D SAY, YEAH. AND THEY SAY, I HAVE A I HAVE A PROJECT FOR YOU.

AND I LOVE SEEING THAT CULTURAL MINDSET OF, HEY, THIS IS SOMETHING WE'RE DOING.

AND EVERY EMPLOYEE THAT WORKS IN WHATEVER SECTION OF THE OF THE ORGANIZATION THAT THEY WORK IN HAS SOME IDEA OF A PROJECT WHERE THEY AT SOME POINT HAVE THOUGHT THIS COULD BE MORE EFFICIENT OR I'M NOT SURE WHY WE DO IT THIS WAY, WE SHOULD DO IT ANOTHER WAY.

AND EVEN JUST HEARING THIS, THAT WE'RE ROLLING THIS OUT, I'VE HAD SEVERAL COME TO ME AND I ADD THEIR PROJECTS TO THE LIST AND THIS LIST KEEPS GROWING AND GROWING.

AND SO THE IDEA BEHIND IT IS THAT EVERY YEAR WE WOULD WE WOULD QUALIFY.

WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT 4 TO 8 PROJECTS A YEAR, DEPENDING ON SIZE AND SCOPE, AND THEY WOULD BE QUALIFIED THROUGH A STEERING COMMITTEE.

THE STEERING COMMITTEE YOU CAN SEE UP THERE AS A CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, FINANCE, HUMAN RESOURCES, CUSTOMER SERVICE, COMMUNITY SERVICES, MARKETING, COMMUNICATION AND INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY. AND THE WHOLE POINT OF THAT STEERING COMMITTEE IS TO BASICALLY JUST HAVE THE DEPARTMENTS SOURCE THEIR PROJECTS TO THE STEERING COMMITTEE JUST TO QUALIFY LIKE A TIMELINE FOR HOW LONG IT WOULD TAKE, WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO LOOK FOR COST SAVINGS, YOU KNOW, FOR COST AVOIDANCE, FOR PRODUCTIVITY IMPROVEMENT, FOR EFFICIENCIES AND ABOUT AND THEN LET THEM GO.

AND THEN THE CUSTOMER SERVICE DEPARTMENT WILL SUPPORT THE PROJECTS FROM A TRAINING STANDPOINT AND KIND OF A GUIDANCE STANDPOINT AS THEY MOVE ALONG.

THIS SLIDE IS I HAD TO PUT THIS TOGETHER ON A POWERPOINT.

THIS IS NOT ESTHETICALLY HOW I ENVISIONED THIS LOOKING, BUT I JUST WANTED TO USE IT AS AN EXAMPLE, AS A WAY OF OUTLINING WHAT THE CURRENT FUTURE, PAST AND FUTURE PROJECTS WE WANT TO WAIVE FOR STAFF, COUNCIL AND CITIZENS TO VIEW WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT.

AND SO WHAT WE'RE ENVISIONING IS A WEBSITE THAT IS STRUCTURED BY, BY THE STRATEGIC PLAN, BY STRATEGIC FOCUS AREA, AND THEN LINKS TO EVERY PAST, CURRENT AND FUTURE PROJECT THAT WE'RE WORKING ON RIGHT.

THE ONES IN PROGRESS, THE ONES THAT WE COMPLETED.

AND WHEN YOU CLICK ON THEM, YOU GET THAT ONE PAGE CHARTER OF EXACTLY WHAT WAS WORKED ON, WHAT WAS IMPROVED, AND THE CURRENT STEPS AND HOW IT TIES TO THE STRATEGIC GOAL. AND THEN AGAIN, ESTHETICALLY NOT GOING TO LOOK LIKE THIS, BUT WE ALSO WOULD LIKE TO BUILD SOME DASHBOARDS THAT SHOW ALL THE PRODUCTIVITY IMPROVEMENTS, COST SAVINGS, NOT ONLY PER PROJECT BUT YEAR OVER YEAR.

SO YOU CAN SEE THIS YEAR WE'VE SAVED THIS MUCH, WE'VE AVOIDED THIS MUCH COST.

WE'VE WE'VE HAD THIS MUCH REVENUE GENERATION IN THESE DIFFERENT PROJECTS AND THEN ALL TIME.

SO TO BE ABLE TO LOOK BACK AND SAY FROM START TO FINISH, SINCE, SINCE THE INCEPTION OF THE BURLESON LEAN GOVERNMENT INITIATIVE, WE'VE SAVED THIS MUCH.

AND JUST, YOU KNOW, WE'LL TAKE KT'S EXAMPLE.

IF YOU HAD $100,000 PER PROJECT IN COST AVOIDANCE OR COST SAVINGS AND YOU HAD EIGHT PROJECTS OR FIVE PROJECTS, YOU'RE TALKING HALF A MILLION DOLLARS PLUS IN COST AVOIDANCE OR SAVING EVERY SINGLE YEAR.

AND THEN YEAR OVER YEAR, AS THOSE PROJECTS BUILD AND AS YOUR EMPLOYEES GET THAT TRAINING AND EDUCATION, THE PROJECTS, YOU CAN DO MORE PROJECTS AND LARGER PROJECTS AND YOU CAN JUST SEE HOW IT COULD COMPOUND AND REALLY STOP THAT PROCESS CREEP THAT CAN GROW IN AND JUST GENERATE MORE RESOURCES, MORE RESOURCES.

AND REALLY YOU CAN PRODUCE A MUCH MORE EFFECTIVE, EFFECTIVE GOVERNMENT PROCESSES FOR OUR CITIZENS AND TAXPAYERS.

SO THAT'S THE OVERVIEW.

I INVITE QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, DISCUSSION ON THE PROJECT, THE INITIATIVE, BUT THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE'RE PLANNING ON GOING WITH IT.

I HAVE A LOT OF HARD QUESTIONS.

YOU ALWAYS DO FOR ME.

NO, I DON'T. I ACTUALLY WANT TO SAY I'M SUPER THRILLED ABOUT THIS.

I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE LEAN METHODOLOGY.

WE USE IT IN MY COMPANY.

AND THIS IS A LOT OF I THINK I'VE ADDRESSED THIS SINCE I'VE BEEN ELECTED ON LITTLE THINGS ABOUT CHANGE, LIKE WHY DO WE KEEP DOING WHAT WE'RE DOING? SO I LOVE THIS.

I THINK THAT ONE THING YOU IT WASN'T OVERTLY STATED BUT THAT COMES OUT OF THIS IS EMPLOYEE BUY IN, IS THE LOYALTY AND THE EMPLOYEE THE EMPLOYEE IS HAVING A CHANCE TO REALLY SEE A PROBLEM AND PARTICIPATE IN TRYING TO MAKE A CHANGE IN HOW WE DO THINGS. AND, YOU KNOW, I'VE ALWAYS I'VE SAID THIS TO BRIAN MULTIPLE TIMES.

I'M LIKE, HEY, YOU KNOW, I REALIZED WHEN WE'RE DEALING WITH MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT A $10,000 SAVINGS OR $100 PAPER SAVINGS, TO US IT DOESN'T

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SEEM LIKE A LOT. BUT TO THE CITIZENS, EVEN IT DOES.

RIGHT. SO WHEN YOU SAY HALF A MILLION DOLLARS, 500,000 IS A LOT TO BE ABLE TO LONG TERM BE ABLE TO REALLOCATE EVEN IF IT'S IN PEOPLE ARE PEOPLE'S TIME.

SO I LOVE THIS.

I THINK IT'S FANTASTIC.

I THINK THAT WE'RE GOING TO SEE PRODUCTIVITY INCREASE AND EMPLOYEE ENGAGEMENT HOPEFULLY BE EVEN HIGHER.

YEAH, I HOPE ACROSS ALL DEPARTMENTS AND AS I'M LOOKING AT A LOT OF OUR POLICE OFFICERS, INCLUDING RIGHT DOWN TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, FIRE DEPARTMENT, THE GUYS WHO ARE AT THE LOWEST LEVEL THAT THEY FEEL THEY HAVE A CHANCE TO SAY, HEY, I SEE A PROBLEM.

DO YOU THINK THERE'S A WAY WE COULD WORK ON THIS AND TRY TO KIND OF SMOOTH IT OUT AND FIX IT? SO I THINK IT'S FANTASTIC.

IT'S BEEN REALLY FUN SEEING THE EXCITEMENT OF EMPLOYEES FROM ALL OVER THE ORGANIZATION SAY, OH, I HAVE AN IDEA FOR THE FOR THE LEAN GOVERNMENT INITIATIVE.

AND JUST THE THOUGHT THAT WE'RE DOING IT EMPOWERS THEM TO SAY HEY, I WANT TO LOOK AT THIS OR I WANT TO LOOK AT THAT.

I'VE ALWAYS THOUGHT THIS OR I'VE ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT.

AND THEN TO INCLUDE EVERY LEVEL OF THE ORGANIZATION IN THE PROJECTS THEMSELVES SO THAT THEY GET THAT EDUCATION, TRAINING AND EMPOWERMENT, I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE IT'S IT'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF FUN AND BENEFICIAL.

JESSE IS THIS PART OF SIX SIGMA? YES, IT IS. IT'S IT'S A DIFFERENT SUBSET OF SIX SIGMA.

BUT YES, THERE'S THERE ARE SIX SIGMA ELEMENTS TO IT.

YES. MAYBE THE GOVERNMENT CERTIFICATION.

IS THAT WHAT THIS IS IN LINE WITH? YES. OKAY.

I LOVE IT.

I LOVE IT A LOT.

AND ONE THING I'LL THROW OUT THERE, MAYBE NOT YOUR REALM, MAYBE MORE YOURS.

I WOULD LOVE TO SEE US INCENTIVIZE OUR EMPLOYEES, YOU KNOW, AS THEY GET DIFFERENT BELTS.

EITHER WE PROVIDE THE TRAINING OR WE PROVIDE AN EXTRA LITTLE CERTIFICATION PAY IF YOU ACHIEVE A GREEN, A BLACK SOMEWHERE, SO ON.

IF YOU ACHIEVE THESE BELTS FOR SIX SIGMA, I'M GOING TO THROW IT OUT HERE JUST BECAUSE IT'S AN INCENTIVE.

YEAH, IT'S SOME MONEY SPENT, BUT IT'S MONEY INVESTED BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO SAVE A FORTUNE.

WE REALLY WILL.

SO. AND I'LL JUST GIVE THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE A TON OF CREDIT.

THEY WHEN WE'VE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT COUNCILMEMBER STANFORD AND THEY'VE SAID THAT EXACT SAME THING.

IF SOMEONE REALLY DIVES IN AND WANTS TO BE TRAINED, LET'S TRAIN THEM.

LET'S GET THEM, LET'S GIVE THEM INCENTIVES TO KEEP GOING WITH THIS.

THAT'S DEFINITELY THE MINDSET OF THE LEADERSHIP.

YEAH. SO I WASN'T MAYOR VERY LONG.

AND I WAS VISITING WITH BRIAN ONE DAY AND I SAID, YOU KNOW, IS THERE ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO TAKE A LOOK AT OUR CUSTOMER SERVICE? AND THEN YOU CAME ALONG.

AND BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU.

I'M WAITING TO HEAR IF THIS IS A COMPLIMENT OR..

I GOT TO BUILD UP TO IT. LISTEN, I AM JUST SO EXCITED ABOUT YOU AND BRIAN CHOOSING YOU FOR YOUR ENTHUSIASM, YOUR DESIRE TO WORK WITH OTHERS.

THE FACT THAT YOU GOT ALL THESE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS WORKING TOGETHER.

AND I'VE STOOD OUTSIDE THE DOOR OF SOME OF YOUR MEETINGS WHERE EVERYBODY IS HOLDING THEIR HAND UP.

SO I GOT AN IDEA.

I GOT TO KNOW THAT'S TEAMWORK.

I'VE BEEN IN MEETINGS WHERE NOBODY WANTED TO SAY ANYTHING.

OKAY, SO HATS OFF TO YOU AND WHERE YOU'RE GOING WITH THIS.

AND I'M JUST TICKLED TO DEATH AT WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN FOR THE CITIZENS OF THIS TOWN WHEN THEY COME IN AND THE LITTLE DAB OF INFORMATION AND THEY'RE BEING SPOKEN TO AND THE WHOLE THING. AND THIS IS NOT A CUT ON ANYBODY.

I'M JUST SAYING, EVERY BUSINESS HAS THE ABILITY TO IMPROVE AND WE'RE FIXING TO TAKE SOME BIG OLD JUMPS HERE.

THAT'S ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, BUDDY.

I APPRECIATE IT. WE HAVE SOME EXCITING STUFF COMING IN, MAYOR.

I JUST WANT TO SAY I REALLY DO APPRECIATE, THAT MEANS A LOT TO ME.

YEAH. ANYBODY ELSE.

GOOD JOB, MAN. THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM THREE C, RECEIVE A REPORT, HOLD A DISCUSSION AND GIVE STAFF DIRECTION REGARDING

[C. Receive a report, hold a discussion, and give staff direction regarding an update on proposed compensation for FY 22-23. (Staff Presenter: Rick DeOrdio, Director of Human Resources)]

UPDATE ON THE PROPOSED COMPENSATION FOR FISCAL YEAR 22-23.

STAFF PRESENTER IS RICK DEORDIO, DIRECTOR OF HUMAN RESOURCES.

RICK.

ENTHUSIASM HERE JUST KIND OF GETS EXCITED AND THE EXCITEMENT KIND OF FOLLOWS ALONG WITH THEM.

I'D LIKE TO SPEND A FEW MINUTES TO GO OVER COMPENSATION ASPECT OF THIS.

I GUESS I HAVE TO PUT ANOTHER LINE ITEM IN HERE FOR CERTIFICATION, PAY FOR DIFFERENT COLOR BELTS FOR SIX SIGMAS AND STUFF.

BUT THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM THAT'S EASY ENOUGH TO DO.

WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS OUTLINE WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW AND WHAT WE ANTICIPATE DOING THIS NEXT YEAR IN THE WAY OF COMPENSATION.

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WE ARE TRYING TO MAINTAIN A LEVEL OF EXCELLENCE IN OUR STAFF SO THAT WE CAN KEEP DOING THESE PROGRAMS AND THESE PROJECTS LIKE JESSE JUST EXPLAINED, AND WHAT WILL GIVE US THE BEST FOR OUR CITIZENS, THE CURRENT MARKET INFLUENCERS THAT WE'VE BEEN EXPERIENCING, LIKE YOU ALL HAVE SEEN FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, IT'S A MESS.

THERE ARE, AS OF RIGHT NOW, 11 AND A HALF MILLION JOBS POSTED IN THE COUNTRY.

THERE ARE ABOUT 6 MILLION PEOPLE TO FILL THOSE JOBS THAT ARE NOT CURRENTLY EMPLOYED OR ARE VERY SEVERELY UNDEREMPLOYED.

YOU HAVE FIVE AND A HALF MILLION PEOPLE OR FIVE AND A HALF MILLION JOBS WITHOUT PEOPLE TO FILL THEM AS OF APRIL, THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES THAT QUIT THEIR JOBS TO EITHER DO IN THE GREAT RESIGNATION OR THE GREAT RESHUFFLE PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO FIND BETTER JOBS HAS INCREASED TO FOUR AND ONE HALF MILLION PEOPLE IN THE MONTH OF MARCH ALONE.

ENTRY LEVEL JOBS ARE VERY VOLATILE BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT AS HIGHLY PAID.

SO IF YOU LOOK AROUND, YOU WILL FIND EVERYBODY ON THE STREET CORNER WITH A HELP WANTED SIGN.

NOW HIRING, OFFERING INCENTIVES, OFFERING HIGHER PAY.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE BATTLING.

AND WHEN WE LOOKED AT OUR SALARY STRUCTURE THIS YEAR, WE WERE BEHIND IN SOME AREAS AND WE NEEDED TO MAKE SOME CHANGES.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON.

INFLATION, EVEN WITH THE PAY THAT EMPLOYEES HAVE, THEY STILL HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE INFLATIONARY FACTORS.

INFLATION WAS UP ALMOST 9% IN APRIL ALONE.

FOOD COSTS HAVE INCREASED OVER 10% SINCE LAST APRIL.

APRIL ITSELF HAD 428,000 NEW JOBS CREATED.

AND IF YOU ALL SAW THE PRICE OF GAS THE OTHER DAY, IT WENT UP $0.30 OVERNIGHT.

OUR EMPLOYEES HAVE TO PAY THESE THINGS WITH THE STAGNANT WAGES THAT THEY'VE GOT.

THEIR WAGES ARE SET.

SO WE HAVE TO LOOK AT WHERE WE ARE IN THE MARKET AND WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO ATTRACT THEM AND ESPECIALLY RETAIN THEM.

TURNOVER. EMPLOYEE TURNOVER IS INCREASING.

AGAIN, THE GREAT RESIGNATION, THE GREAT RESHUFFLE, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO TERM, IT IS REALLY GOTTEN PEOPLE LOOKING AT WHAT CAN THEY DO TO GET A LITTLE MORE MONEY IN THEIR POCKET BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT ALWAYS LOOKING FOR A CAREER.

LOOK, THEY'RE LUCKY. THEY'RE LOOKING FOR PENSION.

THEY'RE LOOKING TO FEED THEIR FAMILY.

THEY'RE LOOKING TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR KIDS, TAKE CARE OF THEIR MORTGAGE PAYMENTS.

THEY'RE LOOKING AT WHERE CAN I MAKE THE MONEY TO TAKE CARE OF MY FAMILY? WE HAVE FOUND A LOT OF OUR LOWER LEVEL POSITIONS.

WE'VE LOST PEOPLE 68% OF THE FULL TIME SEPARATIONS WITHIN THE FIRST FOUR YEARS.

SO THEY HAVEN'T REALLY BEEN HERE LONG ENOUGH TO REALLY SOLIDLY BE TENURED WITH US AND GET THAT LOYALTY TO THE ORGANIZATION.

WE NEED TO ADDRESS SOME OF THAT.

53% OF THE FULL TIME TURNOVER IS WITHIN SALARIES UNDER $50,000.

I KNOW ALEX HAD MENTIONED EARLIER THAT HE'S TRYING TO GET OUTSIDE BUSINESSES TO COME TO THE CITY TO PROMOTE SALARIES AND WAGES OVER $59,000 OR UP TO THAT LEVEL.

THAT IS ACHIEVABLE WITH TODAY'S INFLATIONARY FACTORS, LIKE MR. MCCLENNAN HAS MENTIONED EARLIER, THE WAGES ARE GOING UP EVERYWHERE AND WE NEED TO ADDRESS THOSE THIS YEAR AND WE'RE TRYING TO DO IT IN A VERY FISCALLY SOUND FASHION WITHOUT BREAKING THE BANK, BUT STILL GETTING THE TALENT WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF OUR CITIZENS IN THE CITY.

THE TURNOVER THAT WE'VE SEEN HAS TAKEN EFFECT.

AND AGAIN, A LOT OF THE LOWER LEVEL POSITIONS, WE HAVE INTERNALLY ADJUSTED OUR SEASONAL PERSONNEL FROM $10 AN HOUR TO 12 AS A STARTING PAY AND AS THE EMPLOYEES COME BACK SEASONALLY, WILL INCREASE THEIR SALARY $0.50 PER YEAR THAT THEY RETURN TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE MAINTAINING A MARKETABLE PAY.

MOST OF OUR CITIES IN THE AREA, IN OUR MARKET, WE'RE DOING A LOT OF THE SAME STUFF.

WE NEEDED TO GET OUT THERE BECAUSE THE CITIZENS WANT THEIR POOLS OPEN.

THEY WANT THE FACILITIES STAFF.

THEY WANT THE KIDS ZONE MANNED SO THAT THEY CAN ENJOY THE SUMMER WHEN THE KIDS ARE OUT OF SCHOOL.

AND IT HAS WORKED.

WE ARE ALMOST COMPLETELY STAFFED UP FOR OUR POOLS.

A LOT OF CITIES IN OUR AREA AND WE'VE BEEN TALKING TO SOME OF THE OTHER HR FOLKS IN OTHER CITIES.

THEY'RE NOT ANYWHERE CLOSE.

SO THIS HAS WORKED FOR US TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR OUR FACILITIES ARE STAFFED FOR THE SUMMER.

SOME OF THE OTHER AREA ORGANIZATIONS AND THEIR WAGES THAT THEY'VE BEEN ADVERTISING, THEY'VE BEEN AVERAGING AROUND 15, $16 AN HOUR.

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PANDA EXPRESS AS A SIGN OUTSIDE THEIR FACILITY, 15 TO $24 PER PLUS BONUS.

SIGMA ORGANIZATION ON 35 AND 820, $18 TO START, BURLESON ISD MAINTENANCE WORKER STARTS AT 15.

OURS WE'RE NOT EVEN THAT HIGH.

SO WE LOOKED AT ALL THE MARKET DATA.

WE ARE CURRENTLY THE REPOSITORY WE HAVE.

WE'RE HOLDING A REPOSITORY OF DATA FROM 73 CITIES AROUND THE STATE.

IF Y'ALL DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO READ THE ARTICLE, YOUR HR ORGANIZATION WON AN INNOVATION AWARD FOR THE SALARY SURVEY THAT WE PUT TOGETHER THAT WE'RE HOLDING ON TO.

AND THIS IS ALLOWING US TO STAY ON TOP OF ALL THE CITIES.

WHAT ARE THEY DOING? HOW ARE THEY MOVING THEIR POSITIONS? WE NEED TO MAINTAIN A COMPETITIVE EDGE TO GET AND RETAIN THE TALENT WE'VE GOT, AND THIS IS ALLOWING US TO DO THAT.

SO AGAIN, WE RAISED OUR PART TIME POSITIONS TO $12 TO BE COMPETITIVE.

WE HAVE FOCUSED ON THROUGHOUT THIS SPRING UP TO JUNE, WE HAVE FOCUSED ON HARD TO FILL POSITIONS TO BE AT OR NEAR THE TOP OF THE MARKET, IF AT ALL POSSIBLE. WE'VE MOVED THE FOCUS POSITIONS WITH EMPLOYEES OVER THREE YEARS OF EXPERIENCE TO NEAR MID-POINT.

THE PHILOSOPHY IS IF YOU'VE BEEN IN A POSITION FOR THREE YEARS, YOU SHOULD BE PROFICIENT AT YOUR JOB.

YOU SHOULD KNOW HOW TO DO IT, YOU SHOULD BE GOOD AT IT, AND YOU SHOULD BE AT THE MIDPOINT OF THE MARKETPLACE BECAUSE THAT'S THE MARKET AVERAGE.

SO WE TOOK CARE OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS AND WE'VE MARKET ADJUSTED OUR DISPATCHER SALARIES TWICE TO GET TO A POINT WHERE WE WILL BE STAFFED UP IN THE MATTER OF DAYS.

WE WERE SEVERELY DOWN IN THE DISPATCH REALM AND NOW WE ARE STAFFED UP AND IT LOOKS LIKE WE'VE JUST GOTTEN OURSELVES IN AN ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMUNICATIONS WHO WILL HELP WORK WITH QUALITY ASSURANCE, TRAINING, LEADERSHIP, AND MAINTAINING THE ORGANIZATION SO THAT WE WILL NEVER BE SHORT STAFFED IN THE DISPATCH REALM.

I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, CITY OF HURST IS DOWN TO ABOUT THREE OR FOUR DISPATCHERS.

CITY OF NORTH RICHLAND HILLS IS DOWN SIX, AND THEY ALSO DO FOUR.

I THINK THEY SAID THAT THEY DO DISPATCH FOR THREE CITIES.

SO I THOUGHT THE SOUTHWEST REGIONAL COMMUNICATIONS CENTER OVER IN SOUTH DALLAS, THEY'RE DOWN ABOUT A HALF A DOZEN AND THEY DO FOUR, FOUR CITIES.

SO FOR US TO BE STAFFED UP IN THAT POSITION IS PHENOMENAL.

AND IT'S TAKEN A LOT OF WORK AND A LOT OF GUIDANCE FROM THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE TO GET US THERE.

BUT MY GOSH, WE GOT IT.

WE'RE LOOKING AT MOVING THE FIELD AND LOWER LEVEL POSITIONS AND PERSONAL STARTING SALARIES UP IN JUNE BECAUSE THESE ARE THE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE OUT THERE WORKING ON THE SURFACE OF THE SUN FROM JUNE TO AUGUST.

AND THEY'RE MAKING BELOW LEVEL WAGES.

COMPARED TO SOME OF THE OTHER CITIES.

SO WE'RE GOING TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT OF AN ADJUSTMENT TO GET THEM A LITTLE BIT HIGHER IN THE RANGE SO THAT WHEN THEY'RE OUT THERE, THEY'RE NOT DEALING WITH THE ELEMENTS AND THEN THINKING, WELL, MAYBE I CAN GO WORK IN THIS WAREHOUSE FOR $2 MORE AN HOUR.

I'LL LOSE MY PENSION.

I'M DOING THAT. BUT AT LEAST I'M NOT OUT HERE.

AT LEAST WE CAN COMPENSATE THESE FOLKS TO GIVE THEM A MARKET COMPETITIVE EDGE AND KEEP THEM WHERE THEY'RE TAKING CARE OF OUR CITIZENS AND OUR ORGANIZATION.

SO THE HISTORY OF WHAT WE'VE DONE FROM 2019 TO CURRENT IS HERE.

2021. THERE WAS A LITTLE DELAY IN SOME OF THE COMPENSATION.

INSTEAD OF BEING IN OCTOBER, IT WAS DONE IN APRIL, AND THE MARKET ADJUSTMENTS AND THE MERIT INCREASES WERE DONE AT THAT TIME.

PUBLIC SAFETY WAS REDONE THAT YEAR, AND WE HAVE NOW GOTTEN OURSELVES INTO A MARKETABLE MARKET COMPETITIVE EDGE IN A LOT OF THOSE AREAS.

BUT WE HAVE TO KEEP ON LOOKING AT WHAT EVERYBODY IS DOING ON A YEAR IN AND YEAR OUT BASIS BECAUSE EVERYBODY IS LOOKING AT DOING SOME INCREASES THIS YEAR.

THEY JUST HADN'T DETERMINED WHAT THEY WERE GOING TO DO.

I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT THERE IS TWO OR THREE CITIES THAT ARE LOOKING AT WHAT IS BURLESON GOING TO DO.

THEY WANT TO SEE WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO AFFECT THEM.

I CAN TELL YOU TO A TO A T THAT THERE ARE THREE CITIES THAT ONCE WE GOT OUR DISPATCH PAY UP TO THE LEVEL THAT IT'S AT NOW AND WE STARTED GETTING A LOT OF APPLICATIONS IN CITY OF MANSFIELD MATCHED US.

THEY SAW OUR THEY GOT A HOLD OF OUR FLIER.

THEY MATCHED US WITHIN A WEEK.

GRAPEVINE, JUST A LITTLE BELOW US.

NORTH RICHLAND HILLS.

THEY'RE BUMPING THEIRS UP.

SO YOU HAVE CITIES THAT ARE FOLLOWING US.

MANSFIELD IS IN OUR MARKET.

SOUTH LAKE. SOUTH LAKE GOT OUR FLIER.

THEY'RE RAISING THEIRS UP.

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THEY'RE NOT EVEN IN OUR MARKET, BUT THEY'RE SEEING THE RESULTS THAT WE'RE GETTING FROM SOME OF THESE TARGETED AREAS.

SO WE'RE STAYING ON TOP OF THAT.

SO AFTER OCTOBER 1ST, EVERYBODY'S GOING TO BE LOOKING AT WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE IS DOING AND WE'RE GOING TO ADJUST AS WELL JUST TO BE ON THE SAFE SIDE.

OUR PLAN FOR 2023 AND BEYOND IS TO ESTABLISH THE PHILOSOPHY OF MAINTAINING SALARIES IN THE TOP 25% OF OUR MARKET.

WE DON'T HAVE TO BE NUMBER ONE.

WE WILL BE IN THE TOP 25%.

OUR MARKET CITIES ARE LISTED DOWN THE BOTTOM, IF ANYBODY'S EVER CURIOUS.

WE HAVE 14 CITIES PLUS OURSELVES.

WE'RE LOOKING AT INCREASING PUBLIC SAFETY'S STEP PLAN BY 2%, WHICH IS WHAT ALMOST EVERY OTHER MARKET CITY IS GOING TO DO THIS COMING YEAR.

EACH ONE OF OUR STEPS HAS A 3% INCREMENT, AND SO THE INDIVIDUALS WILL HAVE THAT INCREASE ON THAT STEP ITSELF, AND THEN THEY'LL HAVE THE ABILITY TO MOVE TO THE NEXT STEP BASED ON YEARS OF SERVICE, GIVING THEM A 3% STEP THERE.

WE HAVE THE MARKET, THE MERIT INCREASES THAT THE EMPLOYEES ARE ELIGIBLE TO GET BASED ON THEIR YEARS OF THE PERFORMANCE WITHIN THE PAST YEAR.

AND THAT'S AVERAGE IS ABOUT THREE AND A HALF PERCENT.

WE WANT TO MAINTAIN THE STARTING PAY AT A HIGHER POINT IN THE RANGE.

YOU HAVE YOUR MINIMUM THAT YOU POST YOUR MIDPOINT AND YOUR TOP END.

WE WANT TO BE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN THE MINIMUM BECAUSE IF YOU'RE GOING TO GET A MERIT INCREASE EVERY YEAR AND IN THREE YEARS, YOU'RE GOING TO BE PROFICIENT AT YOUR JOB.

WE CAN GET YOU MOVING CLOSER TO THE MIDPOINT WHEN WE START YOU AND THEN AFTER THREE YEARS YOU SHOULD BE AT THE MIDPOINT AREA.

WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO BRING PEOPLE IN, SHOW THEM THAT WE'RE GOING TO TAKE CARE OF YOU.

NOW YOU TAKE CARE OF OUR CITIZENS.

AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO CONSTANTLY BE LOOKING AT REGRADING THE SALARY STRUCTURE BASED ON THE MARKET COMPETITIVENESS.

THE NEXT PHASE WE'D LIKE TO HAVE YOU CONSIDER AND JUST MULL OVER FOR A PERIOD SOME NON COMPENSATION BENEFITS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. SOME CITIES ARE DOING A FOUR AND A HALF DAY WORKWEEK.

THEY WILL CLOSE PLACES.

THEY CLOSED THEIR FACILITIES DOWN AT NOON ON FRIDAY.

NOT ALWAYS THE BEST FOR CUSTOMER SERVICE, BUT THAT'S WHAT THEY'VE ANNOUNCED.

THAT'S WHAT THEY'VE PROJECTED OUT TO THEIR CITIZENS AND THAT'S WHAT THEY'VE DONE.

ONE CITY IS DOING A TEST RUN OF A 4/10 WORK SCHEDULE WITH THE SHUT DOWN ON FRIDAY.

BUT AGAIN, THAT TAKES SERVICES AWAY FROM THE CITIZENS.

WELL, WE WOULD LIKE TO THROW OUT THERE AS A CONSIDERATION THERE'S JUST OPTIONS IS DO A 4/10 SCHEDULE FOR THOSE NON CUSTOMER FACING POSITIONS.

LET THE DEPARTMENT HEADS HAVE THAT DISCRETION IF THEY CAN DO IT AND ALLOW A 4/10 SCHEDULE WHERE CITY HALL WOULD BE OPEN FROM 7:30 A.M.

TO 5:30 P.M..

SO THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT CAN'T COME DURING A NORMAL 8 TO 5, THEY CAN COME IN ON THE WAY TO WORK, COME IN AFTER WORK.

BUT YOU'D SPLIT YOUR DEPARTMENT SO THAT SOME MORE MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY, SOME WORK TUESDAY THROUGH FRIDAY.

IT FREES UP SOME SPACE WITHIN THE FACILITY BECAUSE THAT OFFICE ISN'T BEING USED AT ONE POINT OR ANOTHER.

SO SOMEBODY CAN COMMAND AND REUTILIZE THAT SPACE AND YOU CAN ALSO GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE EXTENDED HOURS TO YOUR CITIZENS.

JUST A THOUGHT. THERE ARE OTHER OPTIONS, BUT THAT WAS ONE THAT WE THROW OUT THERE THAT SAID, WELL, COULD WORK.

SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT. THE RECOMMENDATIONS THIS YEAR FOR COMPENSATION, THE PUBLIC SAFETY, THE 2% RANGE ADJUSTMENT AND THE STEP PLAN PLACEMENT WOULD END UP BEING ABOUT $595,000.

THE COMPENSATION FOR ALL NON PUBLIC SAFETY PERSONNEL ON THE MERIT WITH A THREE AND A HALF PERCENT AVERAGE IS ABOUT $379,000.

NOW CURRENTLY WE ARE WATCHING BETWEEN SEVEN AND TEN DIFFERENT TARGETED POSITIONS THAT WE HAVE BEEN WATCHING OTHER CITIES DO SOME ADJUSTMENTS ON TO TRY AND KEEP THEIR PERSONNEL BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN KIND OF BEING POACHED BY OTHERS.

SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THE 7 TO 10 POSITIONS TO SEE WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE GOING TO DO TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A COMPETITIVE EDGE ON THOSE.

WE SHOULD HAVE MORE FINAL DETERMINATION ON THOSE.

WE DON'T HAVE A DOLLAR AMOUNT ON WHAT THAT WOULD COST IF WE WERE TO BE COMPETITIVE WITH THOSE OTHER POSITIONS.

BUT IT SHOULDN'T BE A TON.

IT SHOULDN'T BE A LOT OF MONEY WHEN YOU ONLY GOT 7 TO 10.

AND WHEN WE FIND THAT OUT, WE'LL GET WHEN WE GET CLOSER TO THE FULL BUDGET PRESENTATIONS, THEN WE'LL BRING THAT AND PUT THAT INTO OUR BUDGET NUMBERS AT THAT TIME.

JUST TO LET YOU KNOW WHERE WE STAND RIGHT NOW IN OUR RANKINGS, WE LOOK AT THE ENTRY AND TOP ENTRY PAY IN THE TOP

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PAY OF PUBLIC SAFETY.

WHERE DO WE RANK IN COMPARISON TO THE CITIES THAT HAVE THE SAME POSITIONS? POLICE OFFICER.

AGAIN, IN 2020 WE WERE RANKED NINTH OUT OF THE 13 CITIES THAT WE HAD IN THE MARKET.

WE'VE EXPANDED OUR MARKET A LITTLE BIT.

WE HAD ANOTHER CITY OR TWO.

THE ENTRY SALARY AFTER THE TEN ONE ADJUSTMENT WERE RANKED THIRD OUT OF THE 14.

SO WE'RE KEEPING IN OUR TOP 25%.

THE TOP SALARY AGAIN HAS BEEN MOVED UP.

SOME CITIES DIDN'T ADJUST THEIRS AS WELL IN THE TOP END.

SO WE KIND OF LEAPFROGGED OVER A COUPLE OF THOSE BECAUSE WE DID HAVE OUR MERIT INCREASES AND OUR ADJUSTMENTS.

BUT THIS IS WHAT IT WOULD BE THIS YEAR BASED ON EVERYBODY ELSE'S NUMBERS.

WE WOULD BE MAINTAINING OUR TOP 25% FOR PUBLIC SAFETY.

THE RANK, THE GENERAL GOVERNMENT PERSONNEL.

THESE ARE SOME OF THE FOLKS THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT THE JUNE ADJUSTMENT FOR BECAUSE OF THE POSITIONING.

WE HAVE HAD A NUMBER OF PEOPLE TURNED DOWN JOB OFFERS.

WE HAVE HAD A NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN DIFFERENT POSITIONS LEAVE THE ORGANIZATION BECAUSE OF HIGHER PAY IN OTHER ORGANIZATIONS FOR THE SAME POSITIONS.

SO WE MADE SOME GOOD, THOROUGH REVIEWS, ADJUSTED THE RANGES AND AFTER THE MARKET ADJUSTMENT, IF WE CAN GET THAT IN JUNE, GET IT NAILED DOWN.

WE'RE BACK IN THE TOP 25% QUARTILE OF THE MARKET CITIES AND WE CAN MAKE THESE ADJUSTMENTS SO THAT WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT WE RETAIN THESE PEOPLE AND WE CAN FILL THESE POSITIONS THAT PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY TURNING DOWN JOBS BECAUSE THE SALARIES ARE TOO LOW.

SO. AND THAT IS THE COMPENSATION PRESENTATION.

NOT AS VIBRANT AND FUN AS ALEX AND NOT AS FAST PACED AS JESSE, BUT WE TRY AND HAVE A LITTLE MORE FUN WITH IT.

DO I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I GUESS THE ISSUE I'VE GOT IS EVERY BUSINESS OWNER I TALK TO IS GOING THROUGH THE SAME THING.

YES, SIR. WE HAD A SITUATION AT ONE OF THE RESTAURANTS WHERE CHILI'S CAME IN AND HIRED THEIR TABLE BOYS OUT FROM UNDER THEM.

SO IT'S MY ONLY CONCERN ON THIS IS JUST IS THIS JUST A BAND-AID OR IT'S THIS IS THE FIRST STEP.

WHAT WE'RE DOING IS THIS.

WE HAVE DONE SEVERAL SMALL BITES.

IT WAS VERY SAD THAT I WOULD WALK INTO BRIAN'S OFFICE.

HE'D LOOK AT ME AS, HOW MUCH IS IT GOING TO COST ME THIS TIME? BECAUSE IT WAS ALWAYS ABOUT THE EMPLOYEES.

WE HAVE TO KEEP OUR QUALITY TALENT.

AND YES, WE WERE WE WERE BEING POACHED.

WE WERE POACHING OTHERS AND WHEREVER WE COULD.

BUT WE THIS WHAT WE DID WAS WE WE FIXED SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WE HAD GLARING THAT WE HADN'T HAD A CHANCE TO ADDRESS IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.

BUT AS OF 10 TO 1, WE'RE GOING TO BE SITTING DOWN WITH ALL THE BRAND NEW MARKET DATA FROM ALL THESE CITIES THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE HOLDING ON TO AND WE'RE GOING TO SEE WHERE DO THESE POSITIONS ACTUALLY FIT? I HAVE A COUPLE OF POSITIONS THAT THEY'VE BEEN IN WHAT THEY CALL A GRADE 11.

THEY SHOULD BE AT A 15.

AND THAT'S WHAT THIS ADJUSTMENTS GOONS.

WE'RE PUTTING THEM BACK TO WHERE THEY NEED TO BE IN THE MARKET.

AND THEN STARTING AFTER OCTOBER, AFTER EVERYBODY'S MADE ALL THEIR ADJUSTMENTS AND THE OTHER CITIES, WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PLACED COMPETITIVELY.

AND THEN AS LONG AS WE KEEP THE PHILOSOPHY OF MAINTAINING THE TOP 25%, AGAIN, WE DON'T HAVE TO BE NUMBER ONE, BUT WE WANT TO BE UP THERE SO WE CAN BE COMPETITIVE.

SO SOMEBODY LOOKS AT THESE JOBS AND SAY, HEY, WE'VE GOT A GREAT BENEFIT PACKAGE, WE'VE GOT A GREAT ORGANIZATION.

WE HAVE A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE DO HERE.

AND WE GET PAID WELL.

I UNDERSTAND. AND I'M SYMPATHETIC TO ALL THE EMPLOYEES AND THE FACT THAT EVERYTHING'S GOING THROUGH THE ROOF AND BURLESON IS GOING TO BE A TARGET BECAUSE OF THE QUALITY EMPLOYEES THAT WE HAVE.

I MEAN, IT'S JUST A FACT.

SO IS THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON IT? YEAH, GO AHEAD, JIMMY.

THE I REALLY LIKE WHAT WE'RE DOING.

THE I WANT US TO SPEND MORE TIME LOOKING AT BEING CREATIVE OUTSIDE THE DOLLAR.

DEFINITELY. WE GOT TO RAISE THE DOLLAR RATES.

I AGREE THERE. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK CAME OUT OF COVID AND A LOT OF THINGS IS THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE GOT COMFORTABLE WORKING FROM HOME, WORKING EXTENDED HOURS.

YOU MENTIONED GASOLINE PRICES GOING UP.

I MEAN, IF I IF YOU CAN CUT YOUR COMMUTE FROM FIVE DAYS A WEEK DOWN TO FOUR OR THREE, THEN THAT'S HUGE SAVINGS.

SO I WOULD DEFINITELY LOVE IT.

I MEAN, I KNOW WE CAN'T FIX POTHOLES FROM THE HOUSE, BUT CERTAINLY I'M INTERESTED IN THAT.

I WOULD LOVE TO LOOK AT THAT. AND I THINK THAT'S A VALUABLE TOOL THAT WE CAN USE IF WE CAN FIND WAYS TO GIVE PEOPLE MORE QUALITY TIME AT HOME IN ADDITION.

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SO I LOVE THE THE 4/10 IF WE CAN WORK IT OUT IN SHIFTING I THINK THAT ALSO IS SMART.

IT'S ANOTHER WAY THAT IT DOESN'T COST US MONEY, BUT WE CAN ACTUALLY GIVE BACK TO OUR EMPLOYEES.

AS I LOOK AT THIS SLIDE FOUR, THAT'S GOT THE LIBRARY ASSISTANT ON IT AND THE SENIOR LIBRARY ASSISTANT, ARE THEY THOSE ARE FULL TIME POSITIONS.

YES AND NO. THERE'S BOTH.

AND THOSE HAVE NOT BEEN ADJUSTED IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.

WHEN WE DID THE MARKET ADJUSTMENTS THE LAST FEW YEARS, WE WERE ABLE TO DO GROUPS.

WE WEREN'T ABLE TO DO EVERYBODY.

THE FUNDS WEREN'T THERE.

THIS WAS ONE THAT WAS MISSED THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT DONE AS WELL AS THE MAINTENANCE WORKERS.

WHEN WE SEE THE BURLESON ISD, NOW ISD'S NOTORIOUSLY DO NOT PAY AS WELL AS MUNICIPALITIES DO.

BUT WHEN OUR BURLESON ISD WAS PAYING MORE THAN OUR ENTRY PAY OF OUR OUR EMPLOYEES, WE HAD TO DO SOMETHING.

BUT THE LIBRARY WAS ONE GROUP THAT WAS MISSED.

A LOT OF OUR FIELD LABOR WAS MISSED, AND WE NEEDED TO MAKE UP FOR THAT BECAUSE THAT IS A LARGE GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT EFFECTIVELY TAKE CARE OF THINGS THAT THE CITIZENS SEE AND USE EVERY DAY.

YEAH, I MEAN, 15 AN HOUR JUST ON AN AVERAGE IS $31,000 A YEAR.

AND I YOU KNOW, MY DAUGHTER JUST GRADUATED WITH AN ASSOCIATE'S DEGREE AND IS MAKING MORE THAN THAT.

AND SO I LOOK AT THESE POSITIONS AS VERY VALUABLE POSITIONS, LIKE YOU WERE SAYING, I'M NOT GOING TO GO OUT THERE AND SWEAT IN THAT HEAT, DIGGING HOLES AND DITCHES AND FIXING ROADS AND ALL THAT STUFF.

NO, I DON'T NOT DON'T LIKE TO SWEAT ANYWAY, BUT I JUST KIND OF TO LOOK AT THIS AND SAY WE'RE ONLY GETTING THEM TO THE CURRENT MINIMUM RATE OF WHAT IS IN THE MARKET.

THESE KNOW THESE NUMBERS ON THE 622 ARE AT THE HIGHER THAN THE MINIMUM POINT.

OKAY. THAT'S SORRY, I WAS LOOKING ON THE LEFT HAND SO THAT WITHIN THREE YEARS THEY'RE GOING TO BE AT MIDPOINT.

GOOD. SO THE PHILOSOPHY, I MEAN, DON'T WANT TO TIE A NUMBER TO IT, BUT WE ALL HAVE TO PULL THEM HIGHER INTO THE RANGE DEPENDING ON HOW MUCH EXPERIENCE THEY HAVE.

IF THEY HAVE A NUMBER OF YEARS OF EXPERIENCE, YEAH, I HAVE NO PROBLEM SAYING, HEY, THIS PERSON NEEDS TO BE AT THE MARKET AVERAGE.

YEAH. BECAUSE THEY ARE WORTH IT.

THEY HAVE GOT THE EXPERIENCE AND THE TALENT.

BUT IF THEY'RE JUST LEARNING THEIR JOB BECAUSE THEY'RE NEW.

I'M GOING TO BRING YOU IN HIGHER THAN SOMEBODY DOWN THE ROAD IS GOING TO DO, BECAUSE I KNOW IN THREE YEARS YOU'RE GOING TO BE AT THAT POINT.

RIGHT. AND YOU'LL BE ABLE TO TRAIN THEM AND GUIDE THEM.

SO I THINK THIS IS VERY MUCH NEEDED.

YOU KNOW, THE LIKE WE SAY THAT SMALL BUSINESS IS THE BACKBONE OF AMERICA.

WELL, THESE WORKERS ARE REALLY THE BACKBONE OF A CITY AS WELL.

YOU KNOW, THEY'RE THE ONES WHO KEEP IT GOING BEHIND THE SCENES.

WHEN WE CELEBRATED PUBLIC WORKS, WHAT, A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, YOU KNOW, I WOULDN'T WANT ANY OF THEIR JOBS AND I APPLAUD THEM ALL FOR WHAT THEY DO.

THEY DO A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WORK IN THE ICE STORMS, THE HEAT, EVERYTHING.

SO, I MEAN, WE CAN'T WE CAN'T RUN WITHOUT THEM.

YEAH. SO GOOD JOB.

THANK YOU. I TOTALLY CONCUR WITH YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT THAT.

YOU KNOW, THIS THIS RESONATES IS THE KIND OF DISCUSSION THAT HAPPENS IN A SUCCESSFUL FOR PROFIT BUSINESS.

AND WHEN WE THINK THAT MANAGEMENT STAFF LIKE YOU AND BRIAN REALIZE, AS THOSE OF US IN THE BUSINESS WORLD DO, THAT THERE'S A DIRECT LINKAGE BETWEEN THE SUCCESS OF OUR EFFORT, WHETHER IT'S A SERVICE ORIENTED EFFORT SUCH AS THIS OR A PROFIT ORIENTED EFFORT SUCH AS PRIVATE BUSINESS, TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE LINKAGE EXISTS AND THE PAY THAT'S OFFERED FOR THE TOP EMPLOYEES AND THE SUCCESS OF THE MISSION.

AND THEN WHEN I HEAR YOU TALK ABOUT THAT CONCEPT, REACHING ALL THE WAY FROM UPPER MANAGEMENT, ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE GUYS OPERATING THE BACKHOES AND DIGGING HOLES WITH SHOVEL. DAMN IT, YOU'RE RIGHT.

I MEAN, I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR 32 YEARS, AND YOU'RE TOTALLY RIGHT.

IT WILL MAKE YOUR BUSINESS ALL YOUR EFFORT SUCCESSFUL TO KEEP THE BEST EMPLOYEES YOU CAN.

AND YOU CAN'T EXPECT THEM TO COME OUT AND DO IT FOR LESS THAN THE BEST WAGES.

SO, YES, SIR, CONGRATULATIONS.

AND I'M REALLY GLAD TO HEAR THAT KIND OF THING GOING AROUND THAT WE'RE THERE.

NO REAL MAJOR COMMENTS, JUST A COUPLE OF KIND OF OF MINOR ONES.

I'M NOT A HUGE FAN OF REMOTE WORKING.

WE HAD TO DO IT DURING COVID.

WE GOT INTO A KIND OF A MODE OF MAKING ZOOM MEETINGS AND WEBEX MEETINGS AND ALL THIS KIND OF STUFF.

I HATE THOSE THINGS.

THERE, THE LEVEL OF COMMUNICATION I'VE HEARD IT SAID THAT 75% OF COMMUNICATION BETWEEN PEOPLE IS NONVERBAL COMMUNICATION, NONE OF WHICH TAKES PLACE IN A REMOTE MEETING SETUP.

SO, OR VERY LITTLE OF WHICH MOST OF IT GETS LOST IN THE FILTER.

AND YOU KNOW, IF WE CAN KEEP PEOPLE IN THE BUILDING, TO ME THAT'S THAT'S IMPORTANT.

AND MAYBE THAT MAKES ME OLD SCHOOL.

AND IF IT DOES, I'LL BEAR THAT.

THAT'S FINE. I THINK WE'RE BETTER.

I DON'T PARTICULARLY FIND MERIT IN THE IDEA OF OPENING CITY HALL TO EXPANDED HOURS, JUST SIMPLY BECAUSE WE'RE NOT REALLY A

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SERVICE BUSINESS.

WE'RE NOT A RETAIL STORE, WE'RE NOT A BANK.

YOU KNOW, WE PEOPLE EXPECT TO COME TO CITY HALL BETWEEN THE HOURS OF EIGHT AND FIVE.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH YOU COULD ACCOMPLISH.

YOU SAID SOMETHING ABOUT, WELL, YOU CAN COME DO WHATEVER YOU GOT TO DO FOR WORK.

I DON'T THINK THERE'S MUCH THAT PEOPLE COME HERE.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE TRACK THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT IT TAKES TO TRANSACT BUSINESS WITH THE CITY.

BUT I DOUBT YOU CAN GET OUT OF HERE FROM 7:30 TO 7:35 AND STILL MAKE IT TO WORK ON TIME FOR JUST ABOUT ANYTHING.

THESE WERE JUST OPTIONS.

I DON'T KNOW. I CAN'T THINK OF ANYTHING THAT YOU COULD.

MAYBE IT'S THERE. YEAH.

THESE ARE JUST OPTIONS. IT'S A GOOD IDEA.

I'LL EXCEED AND WE'LL GO ON WITH IT.

BUT I THINK MAINTAINING THE EFFORT OF KEEPING THE DOORS OPEN NORMAL BUSINESS HOURS IS WHAT I WOULD EXPECT TO SEE.

SO ANYWAY, APPRECIATE ALL I HAD JUST A FEW MINOR COMMENTS.

I TO APPLAUD WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

UNFORTUNATELY FOR MY DAUGHTER IN THE SCHOOL BUSINESS, THE SCHOOL BUSINESS SAW FIT TO GIVE THE MONEY TO ZERO YEARS EXPERIENCE. AND THERE'S I CAN NAME YOU TWO OR THREE THAT WENT TO 60 TO $65000 FOR ZERO EXPERIENCE.

NOW WHAT DID THEY DO FOR MY DAUGHTER IS 20 YEARS.

I DID NOTHING. YEAH SO IT'S IT'S A GREAT PLAN.

I DON'T WANT US TO EVER FALL INTO THAT.

AND I HATE THAT THE SCHOOLS THAT ARE FALLING INTO IT, I GET THE MONEY, BUT THEY HAVE TO GET IT TOO, BECAUSE THEY'RE LOSING A LOT OF GOOD TEACHERS.

I DON'T WANT US TO HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT.

I MEAN, WE HAD TO DO THAT WITH OUR DISPATCHERS AND OUR POLICE AND OUR FIRE BECAUSE OF THE MARKET AND THE SOCIETY THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH.

PEOPLE ARE NOT GIVEN THESE PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE WORKING HERE, THE RESPECT, THE CREDIT AND THE JUST DO THEY DESERVE FOR THE JOB THAT THEY'RE DOING.

SO WE HAD TO UP THE WAGES TO BE COMPETITIVE, TO GET THEM IN THE DOOR AND THEN WE TAKE CARE OF THEM.

UNLIKE WHAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT DID, WE'RE TAKING CARE OF THEM ALL THROUGH OUT BY HAVING THE STEP PROGRAM WITH A 3% INCREASES THERE.

EVERYBODY IS GETTING IT.

THERE IS NOTHING THAT WE DO HERE THAT BRIAN HASN'T DIRECTED US TO DO FOR EVERYBODY.

EVERYBODY GETS TAKEN CARE OF BECAUSE EVERYBODY IS EQUALLY IMPORTANT IN THIS ORGANIZATION.

DOESN'T MATTER WHAT RANK YOU'RE AT.

WE'RE ALL DOING THE JOB FOR THE CITIZENS AND THE VISITORS OF THE CITY.

I THINK WE'RE ALL ON BOARD.

BE MINDFUL OF WHAT DAN SAID ABOUT WORKING FROM HOME.

I KNOW MY DAUGHTER IS TRYING TO HIRE PEOPLE AND SOME OF THEM FIRST THING, CAN I WORK FROM HOME? WELL, YEAH, YOU GOT YOU CAN, BUT YOU'VE GOT TO COME IN ONCE.

I'M NOT GOING TO DO IT. THE MINDSETS YOU'RE ALREADY AWARE OF THIS IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT NOW.

YEAH, BUT WE DO HAVE CUSTOMER FACING POSITIONS WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT.

THERE ARE SOME POSITIONS THAT COULD.

AND WE'D LOOK AT LOOK AT MAYBE ONCE A WEEK, ONCE EVERY TWO WEEKS OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE.

BUT WE CAN DISCUSS THAT FURTHER.

YOU BET. WE DO HAVE A BENEFITS PRESENTATION COMING UP IN A MONTH.

WE CAN WE CAN ADD THAT TO THE MIX, TOO, AS A BENEFIT.

ALL RIGHT. WELL, I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THE COUNCIL SUPPORT OF THIS.

AND RICK, I KNOW HE WORKED A LOT ON PUTTING ALL THIS INFORMATION TOGETHER.

IT'S A HUGE UNDERTAKING.

IT'S A VERY DYNAMIC MARKET.

WE MAY BE BACK AGAIN IF THE WAGES AND INFLATION KEEPS GOING UP, BUT I THINK WE'RE IN A GOOD COMPETITIVE POSITION RIGHT NOW.

AND ALL OF THE NUMBERS THAT RICK SHARED WITH YOU OR PART OF OUR BUDGET PROJECTIONS THAT WE'VE BEEN SHOWING TO YOU AND ALL THE VARIOUS FUNDS.

SO ALL OF THIS IS BAKED IN THE CAKE, SO TO SPEAK, AND YOU'LL SEE THAT MORE IN THE BUDGET AS IT COMES FORWARD IN THE NEXT TWO OR THREE MONTHS.

SO THANK YOU. AND I'LL TAKE THAT AS A COMPLIMENT WHEN OTHER CITIES ARE WATCHING YOU TO SEE WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO FIRST.

OKAY. SO I DON'T MIND THAT AT ALL.

BUT WE WANT TO WE WANT TO BE THE ONE OF CHOICE.

THERE YOU GO. THE EMPLOYER OF CHOICE IS US.

THANK YOU, BUDDY. THANK YOU.

NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS ITEM THREE RECEIVE A REPORT, HOLD A DISCUSSION AND GIVE STAFF DIRECTION REGARDING AN OPERATIONAL OVERVIEW AND PROPOSED

[D. Receive a report, hold a discussion, and give staff direction regarding an operational overview and proposed FY22-23 budget for the Burleson Police Department. (Staff Presenter: Billy J. Cordell, Chief of Police)]

FISCAL YEAR 22-23 BUDGET FOR THE BURLESON POLICE DEPARTMENT.

STAFF PRESENTER IS CHIEF OF POLICE BILLY CORDELL.

CHIEF BAILEY.

HEY, CHIEF. YES, SIR.

NO PRESSURE, BUT THE FOOD'S HERE.

I WAS GOING TO ASK MAYOR IF WE COULD TAKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK.

THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK.

QUESTIONS? YES, GO AHEAD.

GO AHEAD, BILLY. WELL, GOOD MORNING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL AND MR. MANAGER AND OUR GUEST IN THE AUDIENCE.

LOOKS LIKE I HAVE EITHER A HECKLING OR A CHEERING SECTION BACK HERE, BUT IF I NEED TO PHONE A FRIEND OR POLL THE AUDIENCE, I GOT A LOT OF PEOPLE TO HELP.

I'M BILLY CORDELL, I'M THE CHIEF OF POLICE.

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AND I AM GOING TO BE PROVIDING YOU WITH A DETAILED ASSESSMENT AND OVERVIEW OF BPD TO INCLUDE CRIME STATS, CALLS FOR SERVICE.

WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT STAFFING AND BUDGET INFORMATION.

ONE THING I'LL NOTE WE LOADED THIS PRESENTATION UP ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO.

SINCE THEN, THE TRAGEDY IN UVALDE HAPPENED.

IF WE DO NOT, I DO NOT HAVE A SLIDE IN PARTICULAR ON OUR SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS AND HOW WE DO THAT, BUT I'M PREPARED TO SPEAK TO THAT IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS TOWARD THE END.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE TEXAS POLICE CHIEFS ASSOCIATION ABOUT A WEEK AGO PUT OUT A PLEA FOR HELP IN UVALDE AND ANY AGENCIES THAT COULD SEND OFFICERS AND OR DISPATCHERS DOWN THERE. WE CERTAINLY VOLUNTEERED TO GO.

I GOT A CALL YESTERDAY FROM THEM AND WE HAVE TWO OFFICERS THAT JUST ARRIVED THERE.

I WAS JUST TOLD THEY JUST ARRIVED THERE TO HELP UNTIL MONDAY.

AND THEN WE CAN PUT NEW OFFICERS DOWN THERE OR CHANGE THEM OUT MONDAY IF WE NEED.

THEY HAVE A PLEA FOR COMMUNICATIONS FOLKS.

PAUL WAS NOT IN THIS MORNING.

I WAS GOING TO TOUCH BASE WITH HIM.

I KNOW HE HAS A LOT OF TRAINEES AND MAY NOT BE ABLE TO SEE ANYBODY AND WE'RE LOOKING AT SOME OF OUR FORMER COMMUNICATIONS STAFF TO BE ABLE TO GO DOWN AND HELP THEM.

OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE VERY SYMPATHETIC TO THE THE TERRIBLE TRAGEDY AND THE THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED IN UVALDE AND WANT TO OFFER OUR SUPPORT AS WELL.

ALL RIGHT. I'M GOING TO JUMP RIGHT INTO CRIME STATS.

THIS IS THE EXCITEMENT TO START THE SLIDES OFF WITH.

THIS REPRESENTS OUR CRIMES AGAINST PERSONS STATS COMPARING 2021 TO 2020 AND WE ALSO ADD THE FIRST QUARTER OF 2022.

I WILL NOTE THAT 2020 WAS A YEAR WHERE COVID SKEWED NUMBERS FROM THE STANDPOINT THAT WE HAD STAY AT HOME ORDERS, WE HAD BUSINESSES THAT WERE CLOSED.

SO WE SAW DECREASES IN CERTAIN OFFENSES THAT IN 2021 THEY THEY INCREASED.

ALSO, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT WE WANT TO GIVE YOU THE MOST RECENT NUMBERS.

THESE ARE PULLED THESE ARE RAW NUMBERS THAT WE PULL STRAIGHT FROM OUR RECORDS MANAGEMENT SYSTEM TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE YOU 2021.

AND THEN THE FIRST QUARTER OF 2022 NUMBERS.

WE EVENTUALLY GO AND REPORT THOSE TO THE FBI AND I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT ON THE SUBSEQUENT SLIDE.

THE FBI TAKES ABOUT A YEAR TO HAVE A TURNAROUND.

SO IF WE WERE ONLY TALKING FROM FBI NUMBERS, WE WOULD BE TALKING ABOUT 2020.

AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S NEAR AS RELEVANT FOR THIS AUDIENCE.

IS HAS BEEN ABLE TO GET YOU MORE RECENT NUMBERS.

THE LAST COLUMN I SAID REPRESENTS THE FIRST QUARTER OF 2022.

SO YOU CAN ALSO GAUGE BY MULTIPLYING THAT TIMES FORWARD TO LOOK AT THE THE YEAR.

SO IF YOU DID THAT THAT WOULD BE 536 TOTAL FOR THE YEAR.

IF THEY HOLD CONSISTENCY AND THAT'S WITHIN TWO OFFENSES OF 2021, WE DID HAVE A COUPLE OF MURDERS IN 2021.

BOTH OF THEM HAVE BEEN RESOLVED.

ONE IS AWAITING TRIAL AND ONE WAS NO BILLED BY THE GRAND JURY.

SEX OFFENSES INCREASED FROM 2020 TO 21, AND WE SAW A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN THE REPORTING AFTER THE KIDS RETURNED TO SCHOOL FROM COVID.

SCHOOLS REPRESENT ONE OF OUR LARGEST REPORTING MECHANISM FOR CHILD ABUSE.

AND WHEN THEY WERE OUT OF SCHOOL, WE DIDN'T GET AS MANY REPORTS.

WHEN THEY RETURNED, WE HAD MORE OUTCRIES ON THAT.

75% OF OUR SEXUAL ASSAULT CASES INVOLVED, VICTIMS UNDER THE AGE OF 18 WITH 16 AND 17 REPRESENTING 37% OF THE CASES.

MOST OF THE SUSPECTS IN THESE CASES WERE BETWEEN 15 AND 20 YEARS OLD AND WERE LISTED AS ACQUAINTANCES FROM SCHOOL.

SO AS FAR AS THE SUSPECTS GO, WE KNOW WHO MOST OF THESE SUSPECTS ARE.

WE ONLY HAD TWO CASES WHERE THERE WAS AN OLDER SUSPECT, AND IN EACH OF THOSE CASES IT WAS A FAMILIAL RELATIONSHIP.

AN OUTCRY WAS MADE OVERALL, ASSAULTIVE OFFENSES INCREASED BY 11% OR 47 OFFENSES, WITH THE GREATEST INCREASE IN THE SUBCATEGORY OF SIMPLE ASSAULTS. THAT'S THEIR MOST MINOR TYPE ASSAULT.

WE HAD A TOTAL OF 61 OFFENSES FROM THERE, AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THOSE TRENDS ARE GOING TO CONTINUE AT LEAST RIGHT NOW IN 2022.

LOOKING AT THE FIRST QUARTER 22 STATS, WE HAD 14 SEX OFFENSES, WHICH IS IN LINE WITH THE 2021 NUMBERS, A TOTAL OF 56.

THAT IS, IF ALL OF THOSE STAY CONSISTENT THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.

AND 120 ASSAULT OFFENSES ARE IN LINE WITH A 479 FROM 2021.

AGAIN, IF THEY ALL HOLD CONSISTENT, THIS IS A SIDE ON THE CRIME RATE.

SO THERE'S A COUPLE OF QUALIFICATIONS I WANT TO MAKE ON THAT.

THE CRIME RATE IS PER 100,000 POPULATION, THAT SORT OF CONSISTENCY FROM THE FBI.

SO YOU WOULD DIVIDE THAT BY TWO FOR OUR 50,000 POPULATION.

SO IN 2021 WOULD HAVE HAD AROUND 112 VIOLENT CRIMES ANNUALLY PER THE 50,000.

THIS ALSO INCLUDES THE OFFENSES OF MURDER, RAPE, AGGRAVATED ASSAULTS AND ROBBERIES.

THIS IS A CRIME RATE COMPARISON.

AGAIN, 100,000.

IF YOU NOTICE IN WHAT I SAID A LITTLE WHILE AGO WITH THE FBI, THE NUMBERS ONLY COME UP TO 2020 BECAUSE THERE ARE ABOUT 12 MONTHS BEHIND WHERE WE USE THE RAW NUMBERS WHEN WE'RE REPORTING YOU THAT HERE.

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SO THESE THIS SLIDE ADDS SOME OF THE COMPARISON DATA FOR NEIGHBORING CITIES.

TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF A COMPARISON AND THE NATIONAL TREND BURLESON IS THE MAROON LINE AND MANSFIELD IS THE GRAY LINE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE GRAPH.

WE TREND PRETTY CLOSELY WITH MANSFIELD AND I NOTE THIS GOES BACK FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS AS WELL.

FORT WORTH IS THE BLUE GRAY LINE AT THE TOP OF THE GRAPH.

AS YOU CAN SEE, THEY ARE EXPERIENCING A STEEP INCREASE SINCE ABOUT 2018, 2019.

FINALLY, THE NATIONAL AVERAGE IS REPRESENTED BY THE LIGHT BLUE LINE AND WE'RE WELL BELOW THOSE TRENDS.

SWITCHING TO PROPERTY CRIMES.

THIS IS ANOTHER AREA WHERE OUR COVID HAD A PRETTY DRAMATIC IMPACT.

AS I SAID, THE STAY AT HOME ORDERS, WE DIDN'T HAVE NEAR AS MANY THEFTS.

THEFTS USUALLY REPRESENT OUR LARGEST INCREASE IN OFFENSES.

WE DIDN'T SEE AS MANY BURGLARY OF HABITATIONS BECAUSE IN STAY AT HOME ORDERS, PEOPLE WERE THERE.

ONE ACTIVITY I'LL POINT ON THAT, IT SHOWS UP UNDER THE THEFT THAT WE'VE STARTED SEEING INCREASES IS IS THE THEFT OF CATALYTIC CONVERTERS ON THE VEHICLES.

ACCORDING TO NATIONAL INSURANCE CRIME BUREAU, CONVERTER THEFTS INCREASED ROUGHLY FROM 1300 IN 2018 TO OVER 14,000 IN 2020.

BURLESON HAD 67 CONVERTER THEFTS IN 21, AND WE'VE HAD SEVEN SO FAR THIS QUARTER.

THEY CONTAIN JUST WHY THEY'RE DOING THAT.

THEY IT'S EASY TO CRAWL UNDER THERE, USE A CHOP SAW SAW THOSE THINGS OFF VERY QUICKLY.

SOME OF THOSE VEHICLES, TOYOTA TUNDRAS, FOR EXAMPLE, HAVE TWO AND THEY GET THE MOST MONEY FROM THAT.

THEY'RE MAKING ABOUT 50 TO $250 PER CONVERTER.

THERE IS NO MARKINGS ON THE CONVERTER.

SO IF WE STOP A VEHICLE THAT'S FULL OF CONVERTERS AND CAN'T TIE THAT BACK TO A VEHICLE, WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITH THAT.

AND THAT'S CERTAINLY PROBLEMATIC ON THAT.

NOW, THE PRECIOUS METALS INSIDE PALLADIUM, PLATINUM AND RHODIUM, RHODIUM IS MOST VALUABLE.

A THREE VALUED AT $16,800 PER OUNCE.

THAT'S WHY THEY'RE GOING IN AND TAKING THESE CONVERTERS.

SO IF YOU GET A RHODIUM RING, IT'S BETTER THAN GOLD, JUST SAYING.

THE ONE THING THAT I AM DOING AND LOOKING AT, I'VE READ AND SEEN SOME OTHER AGENCIES TRYING SOME DIFFERENT WAYS OF BEING ABLE TO MARK THESE CONVERTERS.

THE MANUFACTURER DOES NOT MARK THEM.

I DID VISIT WITH ONE OF OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES YESTERDAY AND ASKED HIM TO LOOK AT SOME OF THE OPTIONS FOR MARKING THESE AND IF THERE WOULD BE A COST INVOLVED IN THAT, BECAUSE IT'S COSTING OUR CITIZENS A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF MONEY, I THINK AROUND 1200 DOLLARS, DEPENDING ON THE THE ONE THAT YOU'RE BUYING TO REPLACE THESE CONVERTERS AND WE'VE GOT TWO OF THEM ON THESE CARS GETS EXPENSIVE VERY QUICK.

BUT IF THERE'S A WAY WE CAN PUT SOME KIND OF IDENTIFYING MARKS ON THAT THROUGH ONE OF OUR PARTNERSHIPS WITH PRIVATE BUSINESS, THAT'S SOMETHING I'D BE INTERESTED IN DOING.

THIS IS THE CRIME RATE FOR PROPERTY CRIMES.

AS YOU CAN SEE, THEY ARE TRENDING IN A DOWNWARD MANNER.

AGAIN, IT'S THE SAME DATA AS WE HAD MANSFIELD AND BURLESON, FORT WORTH AT THE TOP AND THEN THE NATIONAL TREND IN THE IN THE CENTER OF THAT . TRAFFIC STATS.

STOPS AND CITATIONS INCREASED IN 2021.

AGAIN, THAT'S IMPACTED BECAUSE OF 2020 AND THE STAY AT HOME ORDERS WE DIDN'T HAVE NEAR THE TRAFFIC ON THE ROADWAYS.

FATALITY ACCIDENTS DECREASED BY 50%.

BUT OVERALL, WE SAW AN INCREASE IN 2021 FOR THE TOTAL NUMBER OF ACCIDENTS THAT WE HAVE.

WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIONS.

THIS SLIDE IS OVERVIEW OF THE INVESTIGATIONS UNIT.

OVERALL, THE SECTION INVESTIGATED 2083 CASES IN 2021.

759 WERE CRIMES AGAINST PERSON.

THAT'S REFLECTED ON THE CHART ON YOUR LEFT.

AND 1324 WERE PROPERTY CRIMES, WHICH IS REFLECTED IN THE WRITE CHART.

CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIONS FILED 1523 CASES WITH THE APPROPRIATE PROSECUTORIAL OFFICE, AND EACH CATEGORY LISTS THE CLEARANCE RATE ON THE RIGHT SIDE.

FOR EXAMPLE, OF THE 750 TOTAL CRIMES AGAINST PERSON NOTED ON THE BOTTOM LEFT SIDE, 289 OR 38.1% WERE CLEARED BY ARREST ARE EXCEPTION.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT. JUST TO CLARIFY, AN ARREST MEANS WE MADE AN ARREST ON THEM AND EXCEPTION.

THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT WE CAN WE CAN CLOSE A CASE OUT BY EXCEPTION, I.E., IF THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY DOES DECLINES A CASE AND DOES NOT PROSECUTE THAT IF THE SUSPECT DIES BEFORE THEY CAN BE TAKEN TO COURT, CERTAIN THINGS LIKE THAT, THE VICTIM DOESN'T WANT TO COOPERATE.

UNFOUNDED MEANING. WE HAVE COMPELLING EVIDENCE THAT JUST DID NOT HAPPEN.

SUSPENDED OR CLOSED.

SUSPENDED MEANS THAT WE'VE EXHAUSTED ALL LEADS AND WE DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO FOLLOW UP.

BUT THAT CASE WILL REOPEN ONCE WE DISCOVER SOME LEADS.

CLOSED REFERS TO CASES THAT MAY NOT BE CRIMINAL IN NATURE.

A RUNAWAY IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THAT.

THE CHILD RUNS AWAY.

WE LIST THEM IN THERE.

IT'S ASSIGNED TO DETECTIVE.

ONCE WE FIND THAT CHILD, WE CAN CLOSE THAT CASE OUT.

BUT NO ARREST WAS MADE ON THAT.

AN ACTIVE WARRANT SIMPLY MEANS THAT WE'VE GOT A WARRANT OUT FOR ARREST AND WE'RE WAITING FOR THAT.

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WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT DETECTIVE WORKLOAD.

WE HAVEN'T SPOKEN IN THE PAST TOO MANY TIMES OVER THIS.

BUT BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THE WORKLOAD OF A DETECTIVE IS CONTINGENT ON THE NUMBER OF CASES THEY GET, AND THAT IS REALLY RELEVANT TO THE COMPLEXITY OF THOSE CASES. FOR EXAMPLE, A HOMICIDE CASE REQUIRES A LOT MORE IN-DEPTH INVESTIGATION THAN A SIMPLE ASSAULT.

WOULD A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR INVESTIGATIONS UNIT.

A LOT OF THEM ARE HERE CONSIST OF TWO SUPERVISORS, NINE DETECTIVES AND FOUR CIVILIAN PERSONNEL.

THEY HAVE AN CIS CLERK, WHICH CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION SECTION CLERK, A PROPERTY AND EVIDENCE COORDINATOR OR P AND A THE STOP TASK FORCE HAS A CLERK CRIME ANALYST IN THE WERE DIVIDED INTO TWO DIFFERENT UNITS.

WE'VE GOT THE CRIMES AGAINST PERSON AND THE PROPERTY CRIMES GROUP AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE TRI COUNTY AUTO THEFT TASK FORCE.

WE HAVE A DETECTIVE ASSIGNED TO THAT AND THEN WE HAVE THE STOP TASK FORCE AND HAVE A DETECTIVE ASSIGNED TO THAT UNIT.

SO ALL OF OUR CASES ARE ASSIGNED THROUGH ONE OF THOSE DETECTIVES WHERE THEY'RE WORKING A TASK FORCE OR THEY'RE WORKING PROPERTY OR PERSONS CRIMES.

THEIR WORKLOADS ARE BEST DESCRIBED BY ROLLOVER CASES.

AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS ONCE A CASE IS ASSIGNED TO A DETECTIVE, THAT CASE IS THEIRS UNTIL THE FINAL DISPOSITION OF THAT CASE IS MADE.

FOR EXAMPLE, IF IN MAY, THEY WERE ASSIGNED 15 CASES AND IN JUNE THEIR ASSIGNED AN ADDITIONAL 15 CASES, THEN TECHNICALLY HAVE 30 CASES AS A ROLLOVER PLUS ANY ADDITIONAL ONES THEY HAD PRIOR TO THAT THAT HAVE NOT BEEN CLOSED.

IF THEY CLOSE OUT TEN OF THOSE CASES OF THE 15 AND THEY WERE ASSIGNED 15, THEN THEIR ROLLOVER IS 20 CASES.

SO IN OTHER WORDS, JUST BECAUSE THEY FINISH AND TURN OVER ANOTHER MONTH, THEY DON'T GET RID OF THE CASE THAT THEY HAVE UNTIL THEY MEET THE CRITERIA TO BE ABLE TO CLOSE THAT CASE.

SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE MANAGEABLE CASELOAD FOR CRIMES AGAINST PERSONS OR CAPERS DETECTIVES IS IN THE LOW MID TWENTIES IN 2021, THE AVERAGE ROLLOVER CASES FOR THE CAPERS DETECTIVE WAS 20.3.

SO WE'RE DOING PRETTY GOOD IN THAT REGARD.

THE MANAGEABLE CASELOAD FOR PROPERTY CRIMES DETECTIVES IN THE MID THIRTIES IN 2021, THE AVERAGE ROLLOVER CASE FOR PROPERTY CRIMES WAS 33.6 CASES.

NOW THAT IS ONE OF THOSE SITUATIONS WHERE WE'RE STARTING TO SEE AN UPWARD TREND ON THAT.

SO AS IN DECEMBER OF 21, WE STARTED LOOKING AT CASELOADS OF 45 FOR THE.

ALL RIGHT. I'VE GOT ABOUT THREE SLIDES TO TALK ABOUT STRATEGIC RESPONSE TEAM, AND THEN I'VE GOT THREE SLIDES TALK ABOUT THE STOCK TASK FORCE.

I WILL ACKNOWLEDGE COMMANDER LARRY SPARKS IS HERE THAT OVERSEES HIS BURLESON OFFICE AND OVERSEES THE STOP TASK FORCE.

I'M GOING TO TRY TO ANSWER ALL YOUR QUESTIONS, BUT HE'S PROBABLY FORGOTTEN MORE ABOUT NARCOTICS THAN I'M EVER GOING TO KNOW.

SO IF WE NEED TO DIP INTO HIM, HE'S MORE THAN HAPPY TO COME UP.

SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE STRATEGIC RESPONSE TIME, THIS RESPONSE TEAM, THIS IS A GROUP WE PUT TOGETHER AS A PROACTIVE UNIT A FEW YEARS AGO BECAUSE WE DID NOT HAVE A PROACTIVE THAT WORKS WITH CID, FOR EXAMPLE, OR GOES OUT AND SERVES WARRANTS THAT THEY WRITE OR THAT GOES OUT AND HAS AN INVESTIGATIVE PIECE, LOOKS AT NARCOTICS AND PROACTIVE TOWARD WE SEE CRIME TRENDS IN A PARTICULAR AREA.

WE CAN REDEPLOY THEM OUT IN THAT AREA.

THAT'S THE MAIN FOCUS ON WHAT THEY DO.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE RIGHT SIDE, YOU KNOW YOU'VE GOT THE ARREST STATS.

I WON'T GO THROUGH ALL OF THAT.

AND THEN YOU'VE GOT SOME OF THE SEIZURE STATS THAT THEY HAVE DONE.

AND THEN WE WANTED TO COME BACK AND ADD SOME SLIDES, GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF INDICATION OF SOME OF THE NARCOTICS AND THINGS THAT WE DEAL WITH.

SO THESE ARE A FEW ARRESTS THAT CAME OUT OF TRAFFIC STOPS.

NOW, TRAFFIC STOPS DON'T USUALLY YIELD A LARGE QUANTITY OF DRUGS.

IT CAN. BUT A LOT OF TIMES YOU MAY START OUT WITH SOME SMALLER AMOUNT AND THEN YOU DEVELOP INTEL AND GO AFTER THE DEALER WITHIN THAT.

SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE I BELIEVE IT'S THE TOP RIGHT PICTURE THAT'S ABOUT 8 POUNDS OF MARIJUANA THAT WAS DISCOVERED ON A TRAFFIC STOP.

WE ONE OF THE THINGS WE DO IS WE DE-CONFLICT WITH OUR STATE AND OUR FEDERAL PARTNERS BECAUSE THEY MAY BE WORKING ACTIVE CASES ON A PERSON OR A GROUP OF PEOPLE.

WE DE-CONFLICT WITH THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT STEPPING ON TOES.

IN THIS CASE, THEY WERE THE DEA WAS WORKING ON THIS CASE.

SO WE WORK CLOSELY WITH THEM ON THAT CASE AND IT LED TO A SEARCH WARRANT LATER ON.

SO ALL OF THESE CASES CAME OUT OF EITHER A TRAFFIC STOP OR A FOLLOW UP SEARCH WARRANT.

WE CAN TALK ABOUT THEM NOW BECAUSE THEY'RE FINALLY THEIR FINAL DISPOSITION ON THOSE CASES.

WE DON'T TYPICALLY POST THIS STUFF BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES WE'RE STILL WORKING INVESTIGATIONS, AS YOU'LL SEE IN SOME OF THE SUBSEQUENT SLIDES.

SO THIS IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT THERE.

SO MARKED SEARCH WARRANT.

THAT'S THE TOP ITEM THERE ON YOUR LEFT.

THE MARCH 2021 WAS A SEARCH WARRANT THAT CAME OUT OF A TRAFFIC STOP, THE YIELD OF THE DRUGS AND THE WEAPONS IN THE TOP PICTURE.

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THE MIDDLE PICTURE ON THE LEFT IS PERCOCET, 30 PILLS.

KIDS CALL THEM PERC 30.

BUT WHAT REALLY IS IS A COUNTERFEIT OXYCODONE.

IT'S FENTANYL BASED.

CERTAINLY, IT'S VERY DANGEROUS.

AND THE ONES THAT WE'VE TESTED AROUND HERE DON'T HAVE ANY OXY IN THEM.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT.

BUT THE MAIN PURPOSE OF THAT IS THE FENTANYL BASED IN THAT.

AND YOU CAN SEE THE NUMBER OF THE PILLS THAT ARE IN THERE.

ALL RIGHT, LET'S SWITCH OVER TO THE STOP TASK FORCE.

AND THEY WERE VERY, VERY BUSY.

AND YOU SEE THE QUANTITIES ON THERE.

WE'LL GET INTO SOME OF THAT. AND AGAIN, I APPRECIATE COMMANDER SPARKS BEING HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, IF YOU HAVE SOME.

METHAMPHETAMINES, MARIJUANA, THC OIL OR USUALLY THE LARGER QUANTITIES THAT WE SEE WITHIN JOHNSON COUNTY AND BURLESON.

HOWEVER, THE SLIDE SHOWS A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF FENTANYL SEIZED BY THE TASK FORCE.

AGAIN, IT'S LACED WITH PERC, 30 TABLETS AND PILLS.

SO YOU MAY NOT YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE MAY NOT UNDERSTAND THAT THAT COULD BE A VERY DANGEROUS PILL THAT THEY'RE TAKING AT THAT POINT.

STOP WILL HELP INVESTIGATE OVERDOSE CASES.

YOU CAN SEE KIND OF THE BOTTOM RIGHT THERE WITH THE SIX INVESTIGATIONS RESULTING IN A DEATH WHEN THEY'RE CALLED AND THEY'VE HELPED IN 12 DEATH CASES WITHIN THE COUNTY.

BUT UNDERSTAND, WE MAY NOT GET CALLED ON ALL OF THEM.

IT MAY JUST BE A YOU KNOW, AN UNEXPLAINED DEATH AT THIS POINT UNTIL IT GOES THROUGH TOXICOLOGY.

AND THEN WE WOULDN'T BE CALLED OUT UNLESS THERE WERE A SUBSEQUENT INVESTIGATION THAT THEY WANTED.

BUT 12 THEY'VE ASSISTED ON THIS YEAR, THE 33 I'M SORRY, 36, 133 GRAMS OF METH.

JUST TO GIVE YOU WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, THAT EQUATES TO ABOUT £8 OF PRODUCT.

IF I GOT MY MATH RIGHT, THE 25,649 GRAMS OF FENTANYL, THAT IS OVER £56 OF FENTANYL AND AN EXTREME AMOUNT OF NARCOTICS THAT ARE VERY DANGEROUS WITHIN OUR WHAT OUR GROUP.

AND THEN YOU SEE THE STREET VALUE IS JUST UNDER $4 MILLION ON THOSE.

ALL RIGHT, THE TOP TWO PICTURES.

THIS IS THESE ARE MORE ARRESTS THROUGH THE STOP TASK FORCE TOP TWO PITCHERS, DRUGS, GUNS, BULLET RESISTANT VEST CAME FROM INVESTIGATION CONDUCTED BETWEEN MARCH AND JULY OF 2021. THIS WAS THE RESULT OF AN OVERDOSE OF A 15 YEAR OLD CHILD.

THE MIDDLE PICTURE, THAT GREEN JAR IS A THC WAX FROM APRIL OF 2021 WHEN WE RAN A SEARCH WARRANT.

THAT IS, YOU CAN YOU CAN SMOKE THAT OR YOU CAN PUT A DAB IN THERE AND UNDERSTAND IT'S A VERY POTENT NARCOTIC.

THE TWO RIGHT PICTURES AND THIS IS WHERE IT GETS CREATIVE ON PEOPLE.

THE TWO RIGHT PICTURES WITH THE CRATES OF LIMES CAME OUT OF AN 18 WHEELER THAT WAS DELIVERING PRODUCT TO A LARGE RETAILER IN JULY OF 2021.

PACKAGED AMONG THE LIMES WAS 20 KILOS OF FENTANYL.

WITH COCAINE MIXED IN THAT THAT EQUATES TO ABOUT 44 POUNDS.

IT'S 2.2 POUNDS PER KILO, IF I'VE GOT MY NUMBERS RIGHT.

THE FACT CHECK, THAT BOTTOM LEFT DOESN'T SHOW A LOT, BUT IT WAS A RED PHOSPHOROUS COOK AND WE HAVE TO PUT WARNING SIGNS ON THAT ON A FACILITY OR RESIDENCE BECAUSE IT'S SO DANGEROUS TO GO INSIDE THERE.

I WON'T GO INTO SPECIFICS ON ALL OF THESE, BUT IT JUST SHOWS ADDITIONAL CASES THAT THEY'RE OUT THERE WORKING.

AGAIN, THAT TOP ONE, THE METH, THAT'S ABOUT THREE POUNDS.

AND THEN IT'S A LITTLE THE OCTOBER ONE'S A LITTLE OVER FOUR POUNDS.

SO THEY'RE OUT WORKING AND THEY'RE WORKING HARD WITH THE GROUP THAT THEY HAVE AND THEY APPRECIATE THEM.

THEY DO A LOT OF WORK IN BURLESON, BUT THEY ALSO WORK ALL OVER JOHNSON COUNTY.

JUST KIND OF RECAPPING SOME OF THE MAJOR CRIME TRENDS THAT WE SAW.

WE SAW THE INCREASES IN OUR SEX OFFENSES, SIMPLE ASSAULTS UNDER THE CRIMES AGAINST PERSON UNDER PROPERTY.

WE SAW INCREASES IN THE RAW NUMBER FOR THEFTS AND BURGLARY OF MOTOR VEHICLES.

AGAIN, ONCE THE STORE IS OPEN BACK UP AND WE GOT BACK TO WORK, THAT LEFT MORE OPPORTUNITY FOR THIEVES TO GO IN.

I TALKED ABOUT THE CATALYTIC CONVERTERS AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING WITH REGARDS TO THOSE.

ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO SWITCH TO CALLS FOR SERVICE.

NOT ALL OF OUR CALLS INVOLVE CRIMINAL ACTIVITY.

THE TOP LEFT PICTURE, OFFICER MARSTON WAS CALLED TO ATB FOR THAT GIANT RAT SNAKE WAS UNDER THE CAR.

AND I AM GOING TO GIVE HER KUDOS AND POINT OUT THAT OF THE THREE GUYS WHO WERE OUT THERE, SHE IS THE ONE THAT CRAWLED UNDER, GOT THAT SNAKE AND RELEASED IT OVER INTO THE FIELD.

NO HARM DONE ON IT.

I'M VERY GLAD THEY DIDN'T CALL ME FOR THAT CALL.

THE BOTTOM LEFT PICTURE WAS A FALLOW DEER THAT SHOWED UP BY ONE OF OUR STORAGE FACILITIES ONE EARLY ONE MORNING.

AND IT WOULD. WE FIGURED OUT IT ESCAPED FROM A PLACE OUT BY CHISHOLM TRAIL PARKWAY AND WERE ABLE TO REUNITE.

SO WE DON'T ALWAYS GO ON JUST CALLS THAT INVOLVE LAW ENFORCEMENT.

THIS LINE GRAPH DEMONSTRATES OUR CALLS FOR SERVICE DATING BACK TO 2016.

TO GIVE YOU SOME HISTORICAL DATA, THE TOP GRAY LINE IS TOTAL CALLS FOR SERVICE, WHICH IS AROUND 55,000.

IN 2021, THE MIDDLE ORANGE LINE REPRESENTS SELF INITIATED CALLS.

THAT'S US CALLING OUT ON SUSPICIOUS ACTIVITY, CALLING OUT ON TRAFFIC STOPS, THOSE TYPE OF THINGS.

THAT'S ABOUT 35,000 OF THOSE CALLS.

AND THEN THE BOTTOM MAROON LINE, WHICH HAS BEEN VERY CONSISTENT FOR THE SEVERAL YEARS, IS ABOUT 20,000 CALLS FOR SERVICE.

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THAT'S OUR CITIZENS DIALING 911.

NEXT SLIDE SHOWS THE DISTRICTS JUST KIND OF GIVE YOU AN IDEA.

THE GREEN IS OUR NORTH DISTRICT.

THAT'S OUR BUSIEST PLACE.

WE HAVE ABOUT 40% OF OUR CALLS FOR SERVICE WITHIN THAT DISTRICT.

SOUTH IS THE THE PINKISH COLOR.

WE HAVE ABOUT 28% OF CALLS FOR SERVICE THERE WEST AND THE PURPLE 14%.

BUT WE KNOW THAT THE DEVELOPMENT CHISHOLM TRAIL SUMMIT AND THOSE THINGS ARE GOING TO CHANGE THOSE NUMBERS.

AT SOME POINT. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO REALIGN THE BEAT BOUNDARIES HERE.

EAST IS ABOUT 18% CALLS FOR SERVICE.

BUT AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE LAYOUT OF THE MAP, IT'S CHALLENGING TO GET FROM A TO B.

IF YOU GET A CALL, YOU'RE OVER IN DEEP SOUTH OR OVER IN THE EASTERN PART.

GETTING BACK OVER TO WEST OR UP TO NORTH IS CHALLENGING FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE WE TALKED ABOUT AND WE HAVE NOT GOT THEM IN PLACE.

WE HOPE TO HAVE THEM IN PLACE BY THE FALL AND BECAUSE OF THE NUMBER OF OFFICERS AND THAT IS OUR POWER SHIFT TEAM, WHICH WE CAN PUT THE OFFICERS OUT IN DIFFERENT AREAS AND OVERLAP THE BUSIEST TIMES OF THE YEAR I'M SORRY, OUR BUSIEST TIMES OF THE DAY, WHICH IS EVENING INTO MIDNIGHT.

SO AT THE HIGHEST CALL LOAD TIMES, WE WOULD HAVE MORE OFFICERS OUT THERE AND WE THINK THAT'S GOING TO HELP US A LOT.

THESE ARE OUR CITYWIDE RESPONSE TIMES 2019 TO 2021 AVERAGE.

SO THIS IS AN AVERAGE OF THREE DIFFERENT YEARS.

KIND OF GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT WE'VE GOT.

THE THE PRIORITY CALLS ARE OUR HIGHEST PRIORITY CALL SOME OF THOSE NOT ALL OF THOSE REQUIRE A CODE THREE RESPONSE.

IF IT'S A LIFE THREATENING SITUATION, THEN IT'S CODE THROUGH RESPONSE.

BUT IT'S NOT REFLECTIVE OF ALL OF THOSE CALLS IN THAT THAT TOTAL TIME THAT YOU SEE THERE.

COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. WE WERE REALLY HAPPY AT THE END OF 21 AND SORT OF 22 TO BE ABLE TO GET BACK OUT WITHIN THE COMMUNITY, VISIT WITH AND AND SEE THE COMMUNITY GET INVOLVED IN A LOT OF THE EVENTS AND THINGS.

I WILL CALL YOUR ATTENTION TO THE TOP RIGHT PICTURE UP THERE.

YOU PROBABLY OWN THURSDAY, FRIDAY AND SATURDAY NIGHT.

SO YOU COME INTO OLD TOWN AND SEE A COUPLE OF OUR OFFICERS RIDING AND BIKES.

THAT WAS AN ADD ON THAT WE HAD LAST YEAR'S BUDGET.

WE HAVE NOT PUT THAT AS A FULL TIME YET.

WE HOPE TO IN THE FALL. WE'VE GOT AND I'LL TALK ABOUT STAFFING A LITTLE WHILE WHEN SOME OF OUR TRAINEES THAT ARE IN TRAINING RIGHT NOW GET CUT LOOSE, WE CAN MAKE THAT A FULL TIME POSITION. BUT AS YOU CAN SEE THERE, THEY HAVE GOTTEN A LOT OF POSITIVE FEEDBACK.

THEY ENGAGE OUR CITIZENS, THEY ENGAGE THE KIDS AND HAVE HAD A GOOD TIME RIDING OUT THERE.

CITIZENS ON PATROL DOES SO MUCH FOR US.

YOU'RE SEEING A PICTURE OF ONE OF THE TWO POLICE CARS OR VEHICLES THAT WE'RE ABLE TO BUY FOR THEM TO REPLACE A VEHICLE THAT WAS 2004 THAT THEY HAVE DRIVEN FOR THE LAST NINE YEARS.

THEY SPEND A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIME PATROLLING OUR STREETS THAT YOU SEE THEM OUT AT EVERY EVENT THAT WE HAVE.

THE PRESIDENT I GOT TO THROW SOME KUDOS TO ALL OF THESE FOLKS, BUT THE PRESIDENT IN PARTICULAR IS VICKY MCELROY.

YOU MIGHT RECALL SHE WAS JUST HONORED AT THE VOLUNTEER APPRECIATION EVENT FOR THE MOST VOLUNTEER HOURS WITH 1117.

AS A GROUP, THE CPA AND COPS HAD 2797 VOLUNTEER HOURS IN 2021, AND I CERTAINLY WANT TO THANK THEM.

ALL RIGHT. LET'S TALK ABOUT THE STRATEGIC PLAN IN 2021.

BPD COMPLETED A FIVE YEAR STRATEGIC PLAN OUTLINING PERSONNEL, EQUIPMENT AND TECHNOLOGY NEEDS.

EACH UNIT WITHIN OUR DEPARTMENT WAS CONSULTED AS A PART OF CREATING THIS PLAN TO SEE WHAT THEIR NEEDS ARE AND WHAT THEY BELIEVE THEIR FUTURE WAS.

I PRESENTED THIS TO YOU IN THE FIRST YEAR ON MAY 3RD OF 21.

THIS IS THE SECOND YEAR OF THE OF THE PLAN, AND THE PLAN IS INCLUDED WITHIN YOUR PACKET.

ALL RIGHT. GOING BACK TO LAST YEAR'S STAFFING, AS A REMINDER, THE STRATEGIC PLAN, WE ADDED A TOTAL OF SIX SWORN.

TWO OF THEM WERE SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS.

WE DOUBLED UP THE NUMBER OF OFFICERS WE HAVE IN IN BOTH OF OUR HIGH SCHOOLS.

ONE WAS A CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION, SERGEANT, THAT ALLOWED US TO REDUCE SOME OF THE WORKLOAD OF THE SINGLE SERGEANT.

MANAGING ALL THOSE RESOURCES AND DIVIDE INVESTIGATIONS OUT BETWEEN CRIMES AGAINST PERSONS AND CRIMES AGAINST PROPERTY.

THE TWO BIKE PATROL OFFICERS WE TALKED ABOUT THAT THE NARCOTICS K-9 TEAM KNOW THAT IS NOT THE DOG THAT'S GOING TO BE USED.

BUT WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF SELECTING THE HANDLER.

WE JUST GOT TO DO INTERVIEWS, BUT WE'VE GOT TO SELECT THE HANDLER.

AND THEN THE NEXT STEPS WILL BE START LOOKING FOR AND PURCHASING THE CANINE.

AND THEN WE'RE STILL WAITING ON THE SPECIALTY VEHICLE TO BE ABLE TO TRANSPORT.

WE'LL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE TRAINING.

SO AGAIN, WE'RE WE'RE HOPEFUL SOMETIME IN THE FALL THAT WE CAN ADD THAT TO OUR TO OUR UNIT.

THEY WILL WORK UNDER THE UMBRELLA OF THE STRATEGIC RESPONSE TEAM, BUT ALSO WILL BE ON CALL FOR OUR STOP TASK FORCE ANYTIME, DAY OR NIGHT TO BE ABLE TO GO OUT AND ASSIST THEM.

CURRENT STAFFING. WE'RE CURRENTLY AUTHORIZED 84 AND WE ARE FULLY STAFFED TODAY.

HAVING SAID THAT, WE HAVE EIGHT OFFICERS IN FIELD TRAINING AND FOUR NEW RECRUITS THAT ARE IN THE ACADEMY.

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THEY STARTED ON APRIL 25TH.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO GET THESE EIGHT OFFICERS THROUGH TRAINING AND THAT WILL FINALLY FINISH AROUND IN THE FALL SOMETIME.

AND THAT WAY WE CAN START GETTING THE POWER SHIFT AND SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS DONE.

SHOULD WE GET THEM THROUGH ALL THE TRAINING THAT WE NEED TO.

CIVILIAN SIDE, WE'RE AUTHORIZED 11 FULL TIME POSITIONS AND ONE PART TIME AND VICTIMS ASSISTANCE.

THE PART TIME. MANY OF YOU KNOW, ROGER FANKHAUSER AND I THANK HIM FOR HIS SERVICE.

HE WAS RETIRED MINISTER HERE IN BURLESON AND WORKED CLOSELY WITH OUR VICTIMS ASSISTANCE, BUT HE WANTED TO GO AHEAD AND RETIRE THAT HIM AND HIS WIFE ARE MOVING OUT OF TOWN TO BE CLOSER TO FAMILY. SO WE'LL BE LOOKING FOR A POSITION THERE.

AND THIS YEAR'S BUDGET, WE'RE ASKING TO EXPAND OUR CIVILIAN STAFFING.

I'LL GET MORE DETAIL ON THAT IN A LITTLE WHILE BY TWO, ONE IN PROPERTY AND EVIDENCE AND ANOTHER ONE IN OUR RECORDS.

AS YOU'RE AWARE, OUR VICTIMS ASSISTANCE COORDINATOR ABOUT SEVERAL YEARS AGO HAD BEEN FOUR, I BELIEVE WE APPLIED FOR A GRANT THROUGH COG AND RECEIVED THAT GRANT.

IT WAS A THREE YEAR GRANT.

WE HAD TO REAPPLY EVERY YEAR.

BUT AS LONG AS YOU DID, YOU GOT THAT GRANT.

WE'RE COMING UP ON THE END OF THAT GRANT CYCLE.

WE CAME WITH YOU TO THE RESOLUTION AND WE WERE REAPPLYING FOR ANOTHER THREE YEAR GRANT FOR THAT VICTIMS ASSISTANCE COORDINATOR.

WE SCORED VERY WELL ON THAT.

YOU HAVE TO START OVER WHEN YOU'RE DOING IT AGAIN.

WE SCORED VERY WELL ON THAT.

UNLESS THERE'S SOME HICCUP WITH FUNDING, WE EXPECT THAT TO BE FUNDED AGAIN, WHICH IS VERY IMPORTANT AND HAVE BEEN VERY BENEFICIAL FOR OUR CITIZENS.

ALL RIGHT. LOOKING AT THE STRATEGIC PLAN FOR 22-23, THIS OUTLINES IT FOR ALL FOUR YEARS.

BUT IN 22- 23 THIS YEAR, FIVE NEW PERSONNEL HAVE BEEN REQUESTED.

THREE OF THEM SWORN. TWO OF THEM CIVILIAN.

OVER THE NEXT THREE BUDGET CYCLES, WE PLAN TO PHASE IN A LIEUTENANT'S RANK.

YOU KNOW, WE'VE OPERATED VERY LEAN AT THE AT THE UPPER LEVEL.

WE'VE GOT THE SAME FOUR COMMAND STAFF THAT WE'VE HAD WELL OVER THE EIGHT YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN HERE.

AND THE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING AND WE'VE ADDED 30 OR SO PEOPLE, WE JUST CAN'T KEEP UP WITH EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE DOING.

WE NEED TO EXPAND OUR UPPER ECHELON.

SO AS WE CONTINUE TO ADD, WE CAN MANAGE THOSE RESOURCES.

SO THIS YEAR WE'RE ASKING FOR TWO PATROL LIEUTENANTS.

ONE OF THEM WILL BE OUR TWO LIEUTENANTS.

THE PATROL LIEUTENANT WOULD BE ASSIGNED TO THE OVERLAP SHIFT, POWER SHIFT ONCE WE GET THAT STOOD UP AND THEN THE ADMINISTRATIVE LIEUTENANT WOULD WORK ADMINISTRATIVE NEEDS.

OUR ADMINISTRATIVE SERGEANT IS OVER ALL OF OUR LICENSING THROUGH PT COAL, ALL OF OUR IN-SERVICE TRAINING, OUR OVERALL THE NEW RECRUITS.

AND I DON'T KNOW HOW HE GETS IT ALL DONE, BUT THAT'S GOING TO HELP OFFSET SOME OF THOSE DUTIES THAT HE HAS THE PROPERTY TECHNICIAN AND RECORDS.

LIKE I SAID, I'VE GOT SOME SECONDARY SLIDES ON THAT.

WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE DETECTIVE POSITION.

PROPERTY AND EVIDENCE IS GOING TO BE OUTLINED OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF SLIDES.

WE'VE RESERVED A 330% INCREASE IN PIECES OF EVIDENCE PROCESSED OVER THE LAST SEVEN YEARS WITH AN AVERAGE ANNUAL OF 17.6 PIECES, THE LAST THREE YEARS INCREASE.

THE ISSUES ARE SPACE WAS UNDERSIZED WHEN WE MOVED IN THERE.

WE KNEW IT WAS GOING TO BE UNDERSIZED AND IT WAS JUST A MATTER OF TIME BEFORE IT CAUGHT UP WITH US.

THE COVID IMPACTED COURTS AS WELL BECAUSE MANY OF THE COURTS SHUT DOWN.

SO WHERE YOU HAVE TURNOVER AND BE ABLE TO PROCESS OUT EVIDENCE, WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO DO THAT.

WE'RE ON A BACKLOG. SO WE HAVE GOT AN AWFUL LOT OF EVIDENCE THAT WE'RE HAVING TO MAINTAIN THAT WE WOULD HAVE LIKED TO HAVE BEEN ABLE TO TO DESTROY AT THE END OF THAT CASE.

THIS PROCESS IS MANAGED BY ONE PERSON, AND IT SEEMS EASY TO GRAB THE PROPERTY.

YOU STICK IT ON THE SHELF.

AND IT WAS JUST THAT SIMPLE.

BUT THEY HAVE TO LOG ALL OF THIS IN.

IF IT'S BLOOD EVIDENCE OR NARCOTICS, IT HAS TO BE TESTED.

THEN THEY HAVE TO LOG THAT OUT, SEND IT OUT, RECEIVE IT BACK IN, THEN HANDLE IT FOR DETECTIVES, FOR THE COURTS, ALL OF THESE THINGS, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN THAT CHAIN OF CUSTODY. AND IF YOU HAVE DROPPED THE BALL ON ANY PART OF THAT, YOU LOSE THE EVIDENCE.

SO IT'S VERY CRITICAL THAT WE'RE ABLE TO MAINTAIN THAT.

PLUS, IT'S GOING TO HELP US WITH THE PROPERTY AND EVIDENCE CLERK THAT WE'RE ASKING TO BE ABLE TO MANAGE THAT ON THE BACK END OF THAT, TRYING TO GET THE DESTRUCTION RECORD SIGNED THROUGH THE COURT SO THAT WE CAN KEEP PROPERTY OUT OF THEIR.

THIS IS A SLIDE TALKING ABOUT OUR DRUG EVIDENCE.

THAT TOP LEFT PICTURE I'M SORRY, NOT DRUG.

ALL EVIDENCE IN THE PROPERTY ROOM.

THE TOP LEFT PICTURE IS IS A LARGER ROOM WHERE WE HAVE GENERAL EVIDENCE THAT GOES WITHIN THAT.

THE CATCH UP WITH YOU.

THE RIGHT TOP IS, I BELIEVE, OUR SEXUAL ASSAULT EVIDENCE.

AND THEN YOU'VE GOT A GUN ROOM.

THESE ARE SEPARATE ROOMS. YOU HAVE A GUN ROOM IN THERE.

AND THEN THE DRUG ROOM WE RECENTLY CONFISCATED 246 POUNDS OF MARIJUANA ON A SEARCH WARRANT.

WE COULDN'T FIT IT IN OUR PROPERTY ROOM.

FORTUNATELY, STOP TASK FORCE HAD ENOUGH ROOM TO PUT THAT IN THERE.

ALL OF THESE BOXES, ALL OF THOSE ARE FULL OF EVIDENCE THAT HAVE TO BE MAINTAINED.

WE HAVE A HIGH DENSITY STORAGE THAT IS NOT LISTED HERE, BUT WE'RE HAVING TO MOVE SOME OF THAT OVER TO A SECURED AREA AND RECORDS FOR THE DIGITAL MEDIA BECAUSE WE'RE JUST

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OUT OF ROOM THERE. IF YOU LOOK AT THE DRUG ROOM, IT'S 98% CAPACITY.

THE REFRIGERATOR, WE HAVE A LARGE COMMERCIAL AND THEN A REGULAR REFRIGERATOR WHERE 89% CAPACITY ON THOSE 80% IN THE GUN ROOM.

SO WHAT I'M GETTING AT IS WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO SUSTAIN THIS.

I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE SHORTLY ABOUT A STOPGAP THAT WE THINK WE FOUND, BUT WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO SUSTAIN THIS UNTIL WE GET IN THE NEW BUILDING.

ALL RIGHT. LOOKING AT POLICE RECORDS, WE'RE ASKING FOR A RECORDS CLERK IN THIS BUDGET.

THE NEXT COUPLE OF SLIDES PROVIDE CONTEXT FOR THAT REQUEST.

OUR RECORD STAFF CONSIST OF A SUPERVISOR AND THREE STAFF MEMBERS.

SOME OF THE MAJOR ROLES AND FUNCTIONS CASE REVIEW.

THEY REVIEW EVERY CRIMINAL CASE TO ENSURE IT MEETS THE NIBRS, WHICH IS THE NATIONAL INCIDENT BASED REPORTING SYSTEM FOR FBI REPORTING THAT IT MEETS THOSE STANDARDS.

IN ALL CASE PACKAGE FILED WITH THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY, THEY PULL ALL THE AUDIO FROM THE 911 CALLS.

THEY PULL ALL THE BODYCAM VEHICLE VIDEO THEY HAVE TO UNDER THE BRADY STATUTE, WHICH SAYS WE HAVE TO PROVIDE EVERY EVIDENCE THAT WE FIND IN A CRIMINAL CASE TO THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY. THEY REVIEWED AND COMPOSED PACKETS FOR 4793 CASES.

ONCE THE FINAL CASE IS DISPOSITION IS MADE, THE CASE IS EITHER ACCEPTED, CLOSED, REJECTED, SUSPENDED, WHATEVER THAT IS, THEN IT COMES BACK TO OUR RECORDS.

THEY DO THE FINAL PROCESS ON THAT.

SO THE FINAL CASE DISPOSITION UP THERE IS 4350.

THAT'S LESS THAN THE ONES THAT WERE SUBMITTED BECAUSE THEY DON'T ACCEPT ALL OF THE CASES ON THAT.

WE ALSO DO OPEN RECORDS REQUESTS THE PD DOES FOR EVERYTHING UNDER THE PD UMBRELLA.

THAT WAS 3165 OPEN RECORDS REQUESTS.

THEN THEY ALSO HANDLE ALL OF THE DATA FOR RACIAL PROFILING THAT WE'RE REQUIRED TO FILE THROUGH OUR INDEPENDENT AUDITOR FOR RACIAL PROFILING.

YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS OVER THE PAST, AND OF COURSE, 2020 WAS A COVID YEAR AND IT DIPPED DOWN THERE, BUT WE TOOK A PRETTY GOOD INCREASE BACK IN 2021.

THIS GIVES YOU A LITTLE SAMPLE OF THE OPEN RECORDS REQUESTS AND HOW THEY WE TOOK IT OVER, I THINK, IN 2016, BUT HOW THEY DRAMATICALLY INCREASED IN THERE.

TO PUT IT IN PERSPECTIVE, THE CITY RESPONDS TO IN 2020, THEY RESPONDED TO 4039 OPEN RECORDS REQUEST OF THAT BPD PROCESSED 3165 AND THAT'S THREE PEOPLE DOING THAT.

I GOT TO TELL YOU, ON THE VIDEOS, WE HAVE TO REDACT SO MUCH INFORMATION AND WE HAVE SOFTWARE THAT WE HAVE PURCHASED THAT HELPS, BUT IT DOESN'T GET ANYTHING.

SO TRAFFIC STOP OUT HERE, THEY GOT A JUVENILE IN THE CAR.

YOU GOT TO BLUR THAT OUT.

IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT DRIVER'S LICENSE OR LICENSE PLATES, VEHICLES PASSING BY, ALL OF THAT HAS TO BE REDACTED BEFORE ITS RELEASE TO THE PUBLIC.

SO IT'S VERY TIME INTENSIVE.

ALL RIGHT. LET'S SWITCH AND SEE WHAT WE'RE DOING TO CONTAIN COSTS.

A WHILE BACK, WE BEGAN OUTSOURCING ALL OF OUR BACKGROUNDS.

WE PAY SOMEBODY TO DO THAT.

WE FOUND THAT TO BE A VERY GOOD PROCESS WE WERE USING PRIOR TO THAT, WE WERE USING OUR OWN INTERNAL OFFICERS TO GO OUT AND THAT TAKES TIME AWAY FROM THEIR JOB, NUMBER ONE.

AND THEN IT'S A COST INVOLVED IN THAT, THE SAME AS OUTSOURCING IT.

BUT WE'VE HAD GREAT SUCCESS IN OUTSOURCING THAT RIGHT NOW.

AGAIN, WE'VE GOT EIGHT IN FIELD TRAINING AND FOUR IN ACADEMY.

SO THAT'S 12 VERY THOROUGH BACKGROUNDS THAT WE WOULD HAVE HAD TO DO GUARD SERVICES.

WE CONTRACT WITH A COMPANY, YOU KNOW, WE OUR PRISONERS GO TO MANSFIELD.

BUT THERE ARE TIMES THAT THEY GET THEY GET SICK, ILL MANSFIELD GUARDS THEM UP TO AN HOUR.

THEN WE HAVE TO TAKE THAT OVER.

SO WE WE WILL SEND A GUARD COMPANY OUT THERE THAT'S A LOT LESS EXPENSIVE THAN US PAYING OVERTIME FOR OFFICERS TO GO OUT THEIR CELL PHONE DATA.

WE PURCHASED EXTRACTION TECHNOLOGY A FEW YEARS AGO AND UPDATED THAT LAST YEAR.

PRIOR TO THAT, WE EITHER HAD TO MANUALLY EXTRACT THAT INFORMATION, WHICH IS VERY TIME CONSUMING, OR WE COULD SEND THAT TO FORT WORTH, PD OR DPS, AND THEY WOULD PUT IT IN THE QUEUE BEHIND THEIR STUFF.

IT'S USUALLY A MINIMUM OF SIX WEEKS TURNAROUND TO GET THAT.

ONCE WE PURCHASED THAT SOFTWARE, THAT WAS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT FOR US TO BE ABLE TO PROCESS THESE CELL PHONES THAT WE GET.

AND THAT HAS LED TO A LOT OF ARREST QUICKLY WITHIN OUR HOMICIDES AND THINGS THAT WE HAD, BECAUSE WE CAN DOWNLOAD DATA AND USUALLY MAYBE A DRUG DEAL THAT'S TRANSPIRED JUST PRIOR TO BEING SHOT AND KILLED. IT'S ONE OF THEM.

WE BOUGHT IA PRO SOFTWARE.

WE'RE STILL WAITING ON IMPLEMENTATION OF THAT.

WHAT THAT DOES WITH OUR CALEA ACCREDITATION, WE'RE REQUIRED TO SUBMIT ANNUAL REPORTS, WHETHER IT BE FOR PURSUITS, FOR USES OF FORCE, FOR NUMEROUS THINGS, INTERNAL INVESTIGATIONS.

THIS IS SOFTWARE THAT PACKAGES IT ALL IN ONE PLACE AND DOES NOT HAVE TO BE MANUALLY EXTRACTED AND PROCESSED ON THAT.

THE COBAN RIMAGE EQUIPMENT.

WE PURCHASED THAT LAST YEAR THAT'S DOWN IN OUR RECORDS AREA BECAUSE I TALKED ABOUT THE DIGITAL MEDIA AND WE HAVE A BACKUP FILE ON FILE WITH US OVER EVERY CASE THAT WE FILE.

THIS GIVES US THE ABILITY A MUCH BETTER, FASTER, STREAMLINED SYSTEM, EVIDENCE PROCESSING.

WE OUTSOURCE THAT.

THAT GIVES US A BETTER TURNAROUND.

THAT'S YOUR LAB WORK AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

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AND THEN FINALLY, IF YOU LOOK AT THE GRANTS THERE, WE APPLY FOR AND RECEIVE SEVERAL OF GRANTS.

WE TALKED ABOUT THE VICTIMS ASSISTANCE, THE USE OF FORCE SIMULATOR WAS A GRANT AND THEN THE NARCOTIC ANALYZER THAT WE RECEIVED WAS ALL WRITTEN UNDER A GRANT.

ALL RIGHT. THIS IS THE OVERALL BUDGET.

I WON'T GO INTO A LOT OF DETAILS ON THAT, BUT THE PROPOSED IN 22-23 IS A LITTLE OVER $14 MILLION.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANYTHING I CAN ON THAT.

BUDGET REQUEST. WE TALKED ABOUT THE TWO LIEUTENANTS.

BOTH OF THOSE ARE VEHICLES.

ONE OF THE DISCREPANCIES IN THE VEHICLE IS THAT THE ADMIN DOES NOT NEED A FULLY MARKED UNIT THAT WE WOULD PROVIDE FOR A PATROL OFFICER.

SO A LITTLE BIT LESS. IT'LL BE A MIDSIZE SUV IS PROBABLY WHAT WE'LL GET IN THAT PROPERTY AND EVIDENCE CLERK, THE RECORDS CLERK AND ONE DETECTIVE THAT WILL REQUIRE A VEHICLE. SO THAT'S THE COST FOR THE REQUEST FOR 2020 223 PERSONNEL.

THIS IS THE EQUIPMENT AND TECHNOLOGY JUST TOUCHING BASE ON SOME OF THOSE.

I SAID THE NARCOTICS WE WERE LOOKING FOR OPTIONS TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

WE WERE LOOKING AT PUTTING ANOTHER METAL BUILDING OUT THERE.

IF THE BOND DID NOT PASS OR EVEN IF IT DID, WE WERE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE SOMETHING TO BE ABLE TO DO.

WE THINK WE'VE COME TO A RESOLUTION AND SHOULD BE ABLE TO PULL THIS OFF.

WORKING WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, WE CAME UP WITH A GOOD RESOLUTION THAT GIVES US PROBABLY ENOUGH SPACE TO BE ABLE TO HOUSE THAT UNTIL WE CAN GET INTO THE NEW BUILDING.

CELL PHONE EXTRACTION, STORAGE.

WE TALKED ABOUT THE CELL PHONE DATA WE JUST NEEDED TO ADD TO WE WORKED WITH IT ON THIS COME UP WITH THIS NUMBER TO ADD TO THE CAPACITY OF OUR STORAGE.

SO THAT'S WHAT THAT REQUEST IS.

MID SIZED MOBILE COMMAND VEHICLE.

WE DO NOT HAVE A A MID-SIZE COMMAND VEHICLE THAT WE CAN GO OUT AND SET UP A TACTICAL COMMAND.

I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.

THE LAST SWAT CALL OUT WE HAD WHERE WE HAD A BARRICADED SUBJECT IN THERE, WE RAN THAT FROM A BACK OF A CAR.

WE NEED TO BE INSIDE SOMETHING SO THAT WE'RE ENTERING THAT DATA DIRECTLY INTO THE COMPUTER AND BE ABLE TO DEPLOY SOMETHING VERY QUICKLY.

AND A MIDSIZE IS GOING TO BE ADEQUATE FOR BEING ABLE TO DO THAT.

WE NEED TO UPGRADE ONE OF OUR SEDANS TO AN SUV.

WE TOOK SOME WE HAVE SOME SEDANS IN THERE AND WE JUST HAVE TOO MUCH EQUIPMENT THAT OUR INVESTIGATION UNIT CARRIES OUT TO A CRIME SCENE.

THE MEDICAL ARMORED RESCUE VEHICLE.

WE DO HAVE AN ARMORED VEHICLE.

THIS ONE ADDS TO THAT.

AND IT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT IS BASED ON MEDICAL RESPONSE.

WHY YOU DON'T WANT TO USE A TRAGEDY.

IT'S THE PRIME EXAMPLE IS UVALDE TO GET MEDICAL OR FB OR MEDSTAR FROM A PARKING LOT UP THERE AND GET THEM TO THAT HOT ZONE AND GET IN AND SECURE THAT AND PULL THOSE KIDS OUT, PUT THEM IN THE BACK OF THAT VEHICLE WHERE THEY CAN'T BE SHOT ANY FURTHER AND GET THEM TO A TRIAGE AREA.

TIME IS CRITICAL ON THAT.

YOU CAN'T SPEND TOO MUCH TIME.

MOST OF THESE MASS SHOOTINGS, PEOPLE BLEED TO DEATH.

YOU'VE GOT TO GET TO THEM QUICK.

WE'VE GOT TO ESTABLISH A HOT ZONE AND BE ABLE TO MOVE THEM OUT OF THERE.

SO THAT'S THE REQUEST ON THAT VEHICLE.

AND THEN FINALLY, WE DO NOT HAVE THE EXPERTISE WITHIN OUR COMMAND STAFF TO BE ABLE TO HANDLE A FULL JAIL STUDY TELLING US WHAT WE NEED.

WE KNOW AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE, EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT ON OPTION C OF THIS BOND PACKAGE, BUT AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO BACK IN AND ADD A JAIL. SO WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT GETTING A CONSULTANT.

I'VE ALREADY TALKED TO ONE THROUGH PER POLICE EXECUTIVE RESEARCH FORUM THAT SPECIALIZES IN JAIL AND WE CAN ENLIST THEM IF IT GOES THAT WAY AND LIST THEM TO GIVE US WHAT WE NEED FOR A JAIL.

MANSFIELD'S BUILDING, I THINK HE'S A 24 OR 26 BED IN THEIR NEW FACILITY.

WE HEARD GRAPEVINE AND THEY'VE GOT A 38 BED.

THEY'RE COMPATIBLE SIGNS WITH US BECAUSE THEY HAVE A 38 BED FACILITY.

WE JUST NEED TO KNOW WHAT IT IS WE NEED FOR THE FUTURE, 15 YEAR FUTURE FOR BPD.

ALL RIGHT. SO THAT'S THE TOTALS OF THE PERSONNEL AND EQUIPMENT REQUESTS THERE, A LITTLE OVER $2 MILLION.

YOU KNOW, THIS WAS A GREAT THING FOR OUR DEPARTMENT.

WE WERE EXCITED ABOUT IT TO HAVE THAT.

FRANKLY, I WASN'T SURE HOW THAT WAS GOING TO GO, BUT IT WAS VERY HAPPY DAY.

IT IS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT PIECES WE NEED TO ADD.

WE'VE TALKED ABOUT SALARIES AND WE'VE GOT THOSE COMPETITIVE, BUT WE DON'T WE LACK IN COMPETITIVE WITHIN A FACILITY.

BUT THIS IS GOING TO PUT US IN A POSITION TO BE ABLE TO DO THE TRAINING THAT WE NEED TO DO, GIVE THE SPACE THAT ENCOURAGES TRAINING TO BE ABLE TO ALLOW FOR THE GROWTH OF THIS CITY. IT WAS BASED ON A 15 YEAR PROJECTION.

SO SINCE 1960, I DON'T THINK WE'VE HAD ANYTHING MORE IMPORTANT THAN THIS PARTICULAR PIECE.

AND I DON'T KNOW THAT IN THE NEXT 15 YEARS OR 20 YEARS, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ANYTHING MORE IMPORTANT.

SO THANK YOU FOR THE SUPPORT TO OUR CITIZENS AND THOSE THAT HAVE SUPPORTED THIS REQUEST.

WE ARE VERY, VERY APPRECIATIVE AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO GETTING TO WORK TOWARD THIS.

THE NEXT STEPS ON THAT, WE ARE ALREADY TRAVELING TO OTHER POLICE DEPARTMENTS, FORT WORTH.

WE'RE LOOKING FOR PLACES THAT HAVE DIFFERENT ARCHITECTS AND DIFFERENT CONSTRUCTION MANAGERS SO WE CAN KIND OF SEE THE DIFFERENCES IN THE FACILITIES.

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WE'VE BEEN TO FORT WORTH, WE'VE BEEN TO GRAPEVINE, WE'VE GOT CARROLLTON, RICHARDSON AND GRAND PRAIRIE SCHEDULED, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT GEORGETOWN AND ROUND ROCK BECAUSE THEY ALL HAVE UNIQUENESS ABOUT THEM WITH DIFFERENT ARCHITECTS AND PEOPLE BEHIND THAT.

SO WE'VE GOT A TEAM THAT'S GOING TO LOOK AT THAT, TAKE PICTURES, KIND OF FIGURE OUT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR SPACE WISE SO THAT WHEN WE HIT THE GROUND RUNNING WITH THE ARCHITECTURAL FIRM, THAT WE KIND OF HAVE AN IDEA AND GIVE THEM GIVE IT TO THEM FOR THEIR EXPERTISE.

WE'RE, I THINK NEXT WEEK SHOULD BE HITTING THE GROUND WITH A REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS FOR THE ARCHITECT TO BEGIN THAT PROCESS TO SELECT THE ARCHITECT.

AND THEN CERTAINLY THE THE PATH THAT WE GO, WHETHER WE DO A CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK OR WE DO A DESIGN BUILD, ALTHOUGH THAT'S YET TO BE DETERMINED AND THEN BE ABLE TO HIT THE GROUND RUNNING AND SELECTING THE CONSTRUCTION COMPANY.

AND THE SLIDE YOU'VE BEEN WAITING FOR.

I AM MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE NOW.

I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THE OVERTIME INCREASE OVERTIME BUDGET 22-23 OF 126,000.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT TO ME WHY IT'S NEEDED? YES. AND I THINK I OVERLOOKED THAT ONE, MY APOLOGIES, I DIDN'T DO IT ON PURPOSE.

126 WE'RE ASKING FOR 100,000.

I THINK 126 GIVES US THE THE BENEFITS AND EVERYTHING.

WHAT WE'D REALIZE, TOO, THAT WE CONSISTENTLY RUN OVER IN OUR OVERTIME.

YOU GET A CALL OUT ON THE ON OFFENSE FROM OUR INVESTIGATIONS ON A HOMICIDE.

WE CALL THE WHOLE TEAM OUT THERE WORKING TWO OR THREE DAYS.

WITH COVID, WE HAD A LOT OF VACANCIES WITHIN A DEPARTMENT WHERE WE'RE FULLY STAFFED TODAY.

TOMORROW, WE MAY NOT BE YOU HAVE VACANCIES.

YOU BACKFILL THOSE BECAUSE WE HAVE MINIMUM STANDARDS THAT WE WANT PEOPLE ON THE STREET, THE SPECIAL EVENTS [INAUDIBLE] A JULY THE FOURTH.

WE HAVE STAFF, A LOT OF STAFF OUT THERE ALL DAY FOR THE PARADE, THEN BACK AGAIN.

ALL THAT IS OVERTIME, UNEXPECTED COST.

YOU KNOW, THE BRICK HAD SOME ISSUES.

WE PUT OFFICERS OVER THERE AND ALL THAT IS DONE ON CITY, ALL OF THAT IS DONE ON OVERTIME.

SO, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE SOME OF THE SOME OF THE LARGER THINGS THAT WE LOOK AT OUR HISTORY.

I CAN'T GIVE IT THE OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, OUR HISTORY ON WHAT WE SPEND EACH YEAR.

BUT WE KNOW WE'RE UNDER BUDGET OVERALL, BUT WE ALWAYS GO OVER ON THE OVERTIME AND IT'S A LOT OF UNEXPECTED COST.

YOU GET A FATALITY ACCIDENTS, YOU CALL IN TEAMS OF PEOPLE TO DO THAT.

SO THERE'S NO JUST A THOUGHT.

IT'S NOT A STAFFING SHORTAGE THAT WE I MEAN, YES, SOME OF THAT MONEY DURING COVID WHEN WE HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WERE OUT AND A LOT OF VACANCIES, AGAIN, YES, SOME OF THAT IS STAFFING SHORTAGE.

IF YOU LOOK RIGHT NOW, WE'VE GOT EIGHT IN FIELD TRAINING.

THEY'RE NOT CALLED ANSWERING BODIES, THEY'RE BEING TRAINED.

AND THAT TAKES SOMEBODY ELSE TO TO WORK WITH THEM.

AND THEN WE'VE GOT FOUR IN THE ACADEMY.

SO, I MEAN, WHILE WE'RE TECHNICALLY ON PAPER FULLY STAFFED, WE'RE NOT FULLY STAFFED RIGHT NOW.

SO WE WOULD STILL BE SENDING PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, STAGING AN OVERTIME.

THEY GET STUCK ON CALLS.

YOU GET A GET A REPORT CALL AT THE END OF THE SHIFT.

YOU FINISH THAT REPORT BEFORE YOU GO HOME.

SO WE'RE ASKING FOR THAT TO BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN WITHIN THE BUDGET.

THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE'RE TRYING TO SPEND ALL OF IT.

BUT, YOU KNOW, AT SOME POINT YOU'VE GOT TO CATCH THAT UP TO THE.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS HOPING. WHAT'S THE ESTIMATED TIME FRAME FOR THESE, THE GUYS COMING OUT OF TRAINING AND WHATNOT? AND THAT'S AND WILL THAT ALLEVIATE THAT SOME IN THE FUTURE? IT HAS THE POTENTIAL TO ALLEVIATE THAT IN THE FUTURE.

YES. BUT IF YOU'RE CALLING IN, YOU KNOW, A TEAM OF PEOPLE TO RUN HIGH RISK WARRANTS, OUR SWAT TEAM, FOR EXAMPLE, ALL OF THAT'S USUALLY DONE ON OVERTIME VERY SELDOM.

WE DON'T EVER HAVE A FULL SWAT TEAM HERE UNLESS IT HAPPENS TO BE THE FRIDAY TRAINING DAY.

SO SO, YOU KNOW, IT REALLY IS LOOKING AT HOW WE'RE GOING OVER IN CERTAIN AREAS AND WE SPEND I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT THE EXACT NUMBER WAS FOR THE BRICK LAST YEAR, BUT IT WAS QUITE A BIT OF OVERTIME THAT WE SPENT THAT WASN'T BUDGETED.

BUT THINGS LIKE THAT HAPPEN.

SURE. I DON'T KNOW IF I WAS LOOKING AT THIS IN YOUR STRATEGIC PLAN, AND THEN THIS IS ALL I HAVE.

BUT AS WE TALK ABOUT THIS BOND AND US MOVING FORWARD, I JUST WANT TO THROW THIS OUT.

NOT FOR LONG TERM DISCUSSION RIGHT NOW, BUT TO TO I'D LIKE TO SEE THE COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT MOVED OUT OF THE BUILDING ALTOGETHER NOW THAT IT'S ITS OWN ENTITY AND IT HAS ITS OWN DIRECTOR.

AND QUITE FRANKLY, WITH US BRINGING ON THE EMS IN THE NEXT YEAR OR SO, THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE ON A BIGGER ROLE IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

AND THERE'S THERE'S, I WOULD SAY, MAYBE A SUBCONSCIOUS AND NOT BY YOU, CHIEF, BY THE WAY.

THERE'S JUST THIS SUBCONSCIOUS THAT, HEY, THE COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT IS STILL A PART OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT OUT.

I ALSO, YOU KNOW, I THINK SOMEWHERE DOWN THE LINE AND THIS IS MORE FOR YOU THAT TO GET MORE TRAINING FOR COMMUNICATION STAFF, THE DISPATCHERS ON FIRE ON HOW FIRE PROTOCOL WORKS AND THE EMS AND THAT KIND OF TIES INTO, AGAIN, EXTRACTING IT OUT OF THERE.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THESE AMBULANCE SERVICES.

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I THINK THAT IT NEEDS TO BE ITS OWN ENTITY.

IT NEEDS TO BE A SEPARATE FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AS A WHOLE.

SO THAT'S NO ARGUMENT FOR ME.

WELL, WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THE FACILITY AND THE OVERALL LAYOUT AND ON THE ON THE SITE.

AND I THINK THERE ARE OPTIONS TO MAKE IT A SEPARATE BUILDING.

WHEN WE SELECT THE ARCHITECT, WE CAN HAVE THAT DISCUSSION AND BRING BACK SOME OPTIONS FOR THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER.

AND PAUL BRADLEY WILL ACTUALLY BE PRESENTING HIS BUDGET AND HIS DEPARTMENTAL OVERVIEW ON THE SIX MONDAY AS WELL.

SO HE'LL BE ABLE TO GO THROUGH THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL WITH YOU.

CHIEF. I HAD SOME QUESTIONS I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU.

I DID GET SOME COMMENTS AND STUFF FROM SOME CITIZENS.

I WANT TO ADDRESS THOSE FIRST, BUT I DID HAVE SOME QUESTIONS AFTERWARDS.

SOME OF THE CITIZENS WERE CONCERNED, I GUESS, ABOUT SOME CRIME STATS ABOUT HOW IT RELATES TO THE DPS, MAYBE SOME DIFFERENCES.

ONE OF THEM WAS KIND ENOUGH TO SEND ME A SLIDE.

SO IF YOU HAVE THAT, COULD YOU PULL THAT UP FOR ME AND THEN I'LL LET THE CHIEF ANSWER THOSE? I DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO ANSWER.

ANSWER THAT FOR ME.

YEAH. YEAH, IF YOU DON'T MIND.

AND THEN I GOT SOME QUESTIONS I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU A SEPARATE OF THIS, OBVIOUSLY.

OKAY. WHAT'S YOUR QUESTIONS? WELL, THEY WERE WANTING TO KNOW THAT THE THEY WERE SAYING THAT THE DPS NUMBERS REPORTED THE DPS.

AND WHAT WE REPORT TO THE DPS AND FBI IS NOT THE SAME AS WHAT'S PRESENTED TO THE CITY.

AND SO THEY WERE CURIOUS ABOUT ABOUT THAT, ABOUT HOW THAT HAPPENS.

LET'S SEE. THE SECOND CONCERN THEY HAVE WAS THAT THE RISK PER PRESENTATION IS 38.1, BUT DPS AND FBI NUMBERS SHOW ONLY 15.4. THEY SAY HAD ROBBERY MISCLASSIFIED AS PROPERTY INSTEAD OF PERSON AS PER FBI STANDARDS.

AND THEN THEY HAD NO ARREST FOR FORCIBLE RAPE OR ROBBERY.

AND IT LOOKS LIKE THEY HAVE US RANKED, I GUESS THE SEVENTH OR.

NO, I'M SORRY, WERE WE SEVENTH, I GUESS, ON CLEARANCE RATE.

SO THAT WAS JUST SOME OF THE CONCERNS THEY WERE ASKING ME.

AND I WANTED TO LET YOU ANSWER THAT.

GREAT QUESTIONS AND I CAN GIVE YOU GOOD ANSWERS ON THAT.

SO WHEN I STARTED MY PRESENTATION, THE FIRST THING I SAID, WHEN I PUT THE SLIDE UP THERE ON CRIMES AGAINST PERSONS, I SAID, THESE ARE THE WRONG NUMBERS THAT WE HAVE.

WHEN I GOT TO THE CRIME RATE, WE DON'T HAVE NUMBERS FOR 2021 BECAUSE FBI, WHEN WE SUBMIT THEM IN 21, THERE ARE ABOUT 12 MONTHS BEHIND PUTTING THEM IN THERE.

IT DOESN'T, IN MY OPINION, DO YOU ANY GOOD FOR ME TO COME UP AND TALK ABOUT 2020 NUMBERS WHEN WE'RE ALREADY IN 2022? SO WE PULL DIRECTLY FROM OUR RECORDS MANAGEMENT SYSTEM, THE NUMBERS WE PRESENT YOU HERE, AND THAT'S WHY I ALWAYS QUALIFY.

THESE ARE THE RAW NUMBERS THAT WE HAVE.

IT MAY NOT REFLECT WHAT'S ACTUALLY SUBMITTED TO DPS DOWN THE ROAD.

THAT GIVES US A BETTER PICTURE OF WHAT'S HAPPENING IN BURLESON RIGHT NOW.

EVEN WHEN I ADDED THE 2022 FIRST QUARTER, IT KIND OF GIVES YOU AN IDEA IF THE TRENDS ARE CONTINUING AND NOT WHEN WE REPORT THOSE TO DPS, FOR EXAMPLE, THEY GO THROUGH A SCREENING PROCESS. REMEMBER WHEN I SAID THE CASES COME BACK IN TO US AND RECORDS LOOKS AT THAT AND THEN THAT'S PUSHED OFF TO DPS.

SO IF YOU, YOU KNOW, LET'S JUST SAY FOR SIMPLICITY, YOU GET TEN CASES IN DECEMBER AND YOU UNFOUND THOSE CASES.

I'M IN HERE TALKING BECAUSE THEY'RE STILL BEING INVESTIGATED.

I'M IN HERE TALKING ABOUT THOSE CASES, NOT KNOWING WHETHER THEY ARE UNFOUNDED YET OR NOT.

BUT ONCE IT GOES TO THE DPS, THOSE NUMBERS ARE CLEANED UP.

ANY CASES THAT ARE UNFOUNDED ARE TAKEN BACK FROM THERE.

SO THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE A DISCREPANCY IN THE NUMBERS BETWEEN RAW NUMBERS AND THE NUMBERS THAT GO TO DPS AND EVENTUALLY THE FBI.

IT'S IMPORTANT FOR ME, I THINK I CAN STICK TO THOSE NUMBERS, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO BE A YEAR AND A HALF BEHIND ON WHAT'S GOING ON.

AND IS THAT RELEVANT AT THIS TIME OR NOT? WE TRY TO WORK WITH THE RAW NUMBERS ON THAT.

SO, CLEAR THAT ONE.

I HOPE SO. SO AND WHOEVER WHOEVER SENT THIS, IF IT DOES NOT CLEAR THEM UP, THEN PLEASE GET THEM IN CONTACT WITH THEM.

I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO SIT DOWN WITH THEM AND DISCUSS IT FURTHER.

OKAY. I'LL DO THAT.

THE CLEARED BY ARREST PER PRESENTATION 38.1% PERSONS OFFENSES AND 21.4% PROPERTY OFFENSES THAT IT GOES ALONG THE SAME LINES. WHAT'S PROVIDED TO DPS AND HOW IT'S HOW IT'S CLEARED.

AGAIN, RAW NUMBERS ARE GOING TO BE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT'S PROVIDED.

ALSO, I THINK AN IMPORTANT THING WE FOCUSED ON CERTAIN OFFENSE IN HERE WHEN WE SWITCH FROM UNIFORM CRIME REPORTING BACK IN OUR DAYS.

YES. WHICH HAD A TOTAL OF EIGHT OFFENSES, I THINK IT WAS THAT'S WHAT WAS REPORTED.

FBI WHEN WE SWITCHED TO NIBRS, THE NATIONAL INCIDENT BASE, IT IS COUNTED DIFFERENTLY.

THAT'S WHY THAT YEAR WE COULDN'T REALLY COMPARE.

THERE'S NOT AN APPLES TO APPLES COMPARISON TO THOSE TWO.

IT DIVIDES OUT, PUTS A LOT MORE CATEGORIES IN THERE.

SO MY GUESS IS, I MEAN, I'M JUST GETTING HIT WITH THIS NOW, BUT MY GUESS IS THAT THE NUMBERS THAT ARE REPORTED, FBI AND THEIR BASE IN THAT OFF INCLUDES A LOT MORE OFFENSES THAN WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE.

WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN OUR CLEARANCE RATE WAS SPECIFIC TO THE OFFENSES ON THAT SLIDE.

AND I'M GOING TO DOUBLE CHECK WITH THAT.

IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH.

YEAH. SO I MEAN, THAT'S PART OF THE DISCREPANCY THERE.

AGAIN, THESE ARE THE MORE THE ONES THAT WE SHOW IN HERE ARE, THE MORE PREVALENT OFFENSES THAT I THINK CONCERN US.

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THEY CONCERN OUR CONSTITUENTS AND CERTAINLY OUR OUR CITIZENS.

SO THAT HOPEFULLY CLEARS THAT UP.

AGAIN, IF THAT'S NOT THE CASE, THEY WANT TO COME IN AND VISIT.

BY ALL MEANS, LET'S DO THAT.

THE CLEARED BY ARREST, THAT'S KIND OF GOES ALONG WITH THAT.

WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT CLEARED BY ARREST, THAT DOESN'T REFLECT EVERYTHING BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, NOT ALL OFFENSES ARE CREATED EQUALLY.

AND SOME OF THEM, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S A BURGLARY MOTOR VEHICLE AND THERE'S NO SUSPECTS, YOU REALLY HAVE NOTHING YOU CAN GO ON.

THAT'S A SUSPENDED CASE.

ROBBERY MISCLASSIFIED AS PROPERTY INSTEAD OF PERSONS PER FBI STANDARDS.

THANK YOU FOR ASKING THAT QUESTION.

IT'S ONE THAT IRRITATES ME.

ROBBERY IN OUR DAY UNDER UCR IS A CRIME AGAINST A PERSON.

UNDER THE FEDS, WHEN THEY RECLASSIFIED IT TO NIBRS, IT BECAME A CRIME AGAINST PROPERTY BECAUSE THEY SAID THE GOAL, THE END RESULT OF THAT WAS TO STEAL PROPERTY.

I'M LOOKING AT IT. YOU GOT A GUN POINTED AT ME AND THREATENING TO KILL ME.

THAT'S A CRIME AGAINST A PERSON TO ME.

BUT WE'RE FOLLOWING UNDER THE GUIDELINES THAT THE FBI HAS GIVEN US UNDER NEIGHBORS.

AND IT'S A CRIME AGAINST PROPERTY.

WE AGREE ON THAT.

THE NO ARREST FOR FORCIBLE RAPE OR ROBBERY.

WE NEED TO GO BACK AND LOOK BECAUSE THE NUMBERS THAT WE GET AND GO INTO THE SYSTEM, THEY'RE REPORTED DIRECTLY OUT OF OUR SYSTEM INTO THEIRS.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A GLITCH IN THAT.

IT'S PULLING FROM ARREST RECORD.

IT COULD BE PULLING FROM ARREST RECORDS OF OUR RMS AS OPPOSED TO A DIFFERENT DATABASE.

BUT I APPRECIATE THEM BRINGING THAT UP.

WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK IN AND LOOK AT THAT AND SEE, BECAUSE I CAN'T IMAGINE WE DIDN'T HAVE ARREST FOR THOSE OFFENSES.

WELL, I APPRECIATE YOU ANSWERING THOSE.

HOPEFULLY THAT CLEARS UP SOME STUFF FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE LOOKING AT STATS OR STATS DRIVEN PEOPLE.

OKAY. THE ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO MAKE CLEAR IS THAT THAT THE FBI HAS STOPPED TAKING ALL UCR DATA AS OF JANUARY 21.

IS THAT CORRECT? I BELIEVE IT IS JANUARY 21.

THEY NO LONGER ACCEPT ANY UCR DATA.

SO WE'LL BE COMPARING APPLES TO APPLES.

YEAH. AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

WELL, WE TRANSITIONED BEFORE WE DIDN'T WAIT UNTIL THE DEADLINE TO DO THAT.

WE TRANSITIONED TO TWO YEARS AGO, TWO, THREE YEARS AGO, BUT AS WE COMPARED A LONG TIME AGO.

SO WE'VE BEEN DOING IT ON NIBRS.

SO WE'VE BEYOND THE APPLES TO ORANGES COMPARISON NOW.

SO ALL OF OURS ARE UNDER NIBRS.

AND THE ONE QUESTION NOW AND I'LL GET TO MY QUESTIONS KIND OF PIGGYBACKING OFF WHAT TAMARA SAID NOW THE NATIONAL AVERAGE PER OFFICER, PER 1000 POPULATION I THINK IS AROUND 2.4, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, I THINK ACCORDING TO FBI STANDARDS.

AND WE'RE SITTING ABOUT 1.6 AND I KNOW YOU'RE ASKING FOR A FEW MORE.

IS THAT GOING TO GET US WHERE WE NEED TO BE? I KNOW YOU'RE TRYING TO BE IT WON'T GET AFFIRMATIVE AND EVERYTHING ELSE, BUT DO WE? I DON'T WANT TO.

WE'RE WE GOT A LOT, OK, SO HERE'S MY THINKING.

WE'VE GOT A LOT OF NEW DEVELOPMENTS COMING IN.

YES, SIR. AND IT TAKES TIME.

AND YOU AND I BOTH KNOW IT TAKES TIME TO GET TO TAKE THAT OFFICER.

WE CAN GRADUATE HIM FROM THE ACADEMY.

AND IF YOU'RE A BRAND NEW ROOKIE OFFICER, I'M NOT BASHING YOU.

BUT ONCE WE GRADUATE FROM THE ACADEMY, YOU'RE NOT THAT PRODUCTIVE YET.

I JUST HATE TO SAY IT, BUT YOU'RE NOT YOU.

IT TAKES YEARS TO TO HONE THESE SKILLS.

AND AS WE ADD THESE OFFICERS IN, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF DEVELOPMENTS COMING.

I DON'T WANT TO I DON'T WANT TO BE PLAYING CATCH UP.

ALL RIGHT. IT WILL TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, IT WILL NOT GET US TO THE 2.4.

BUT I'LL AT THE AT THE RISK OF THE CITY MANAGER CRINGING RIGHT NOW, I'LL TAKE EVERYBODY YOU WANT TO GIVE ME AND I DON'T THINK ANYBODY HERE IS GOING TO COMPLAIN ABOUT THAT A BIT.

YOU KNOW, OUR STRATEGIC PLAN WE DID AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A BALANCE OF WHAT WE CAN AFFORD AND WHAT WE WANT.

CORRECT OUR STRATEGIC PLAN.

WE AGAIN, WE DIDN'T DO THAT IN THE BUBBLE.

WE'VE GOT A PRETTY ROBUST COMMAND STAFF THAT PUT THAT TOGETHER.

WE TALKED TO OUR OFFICERS AND WE LOOKED AT, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS REASONABLE AND THE COST INVOLVED IN THAT.

YOU KNOW, AGAIN, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY 100% RIGHT.

AND THE CITY MANAGER AND I ARE ON THE SAME PAGE WHEN IT COMES TO ONCE WE START THE HIRING PROCESS, YOU'RE ABOUT A YEAR FROM REALIZING SOMEBODY TO BE SO LOW STATUS.

WE HAD A KID THAT DIDN'T MAKE IT THROUGH TRAINING AND RESIGNED YESTERDAY, AND THAT HURTS BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF TIME INVESTED IN THEM.

WE HAD TWO RESIGN, YOU KNOW, BACK IN DECEMBER.

YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO COMPLETE THE TRAINING TO GET THERE.

AND YOU NEVER KNOW THAT UNTIL THEY GET OUT ON THE STREET AND DEALING WITH REAL LIFE SITUATIONS AND HOW THEY'RE GOING TO HANDLE THAT.

SO THAT HURTS US AS WELL OVER STAFFING WE HAVE IN THE PAST.

AND WE WERE UNTIL THIS KID RESIGNED, WE HAD ONE EXTRA PERSON.

IF WE GET SOMEBODY THAT IS WELL QUALIFIED, DIVERSITY, YOU KNOW, WE'LL ALL GO TO CITY MANAGER AND WE'LL TRY TO AUTHORIZE ONE BECAUSE WE HAVE SALARY SAVINGS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT, YES, THAT'S THAT'S BEEN OUR STRUGGLE.

I MEAN, THIS POWER SHIFT TEAM, I THINK WE APPROVED THAT TWO YEARS AGO AND WE'RE STILL TRYING TO GET THAT IN PLACE.

NOW, THERE'S OTHER THINGS THAT HAPPEN, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU PROVE THAT SROS LAST YEAR BECAUSE [INAUDIBLE] IS PAYING FOR HALF OF THAT, WE TRY TO GET THOSE STAFFED QUICKLY AND THAT PUTS OTHER THINGS ON THE BACK BURNER.

SO THAT IS A REAL CHALLENGE WITH US.

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WE'RE COMPETING AGAINST A LOT OF AGENCIES.

THE SALARIES ARE GOOD.

OUR LATERAL ENTRY PROGRAM IS GOOD.

I THINK THE FACILITY IS GOING TO HELP US.

BUT AGAIN, I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN OR LOOK AT WHAT WE NEED TO ACCELERATE.

YEAH, I THINK IT'S A IT'S A GOOD DISCUSSION.

THE THE QUESTION I ALWAYS ASK DEPARTMENT HEADS IS TELL ME WHAT YOU NEED.

AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE STRATEGIC PLAN IS TRYING TO DO, IS TO TELL US WHAT WE NEED OPERATIONALLY OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS.

I THINK THE BENCHMARKS THAT YOU REFERENCED, THOSE ARE ARE SOMEWHAT HELPFUL.

BUT EACH COMMUNITY IS DIFFERENT.

AND I THINK WE HAVE PRESENTED THE BUDGET INFORMATION TO YOU IN THE PAST.

YOU CAN SEE THAT COMPARED TO A LOT OF THE NORTH TEXAS COMMUNITIES, WE'RE VERY WELL STAFFED FOR THE SIZE OF OUR POPULATION, BUT THERE ARE UNIQUE ASPECTS FOR BURLESON AND EVERY OTHER COMMUNITY IN THE METROPLEX, AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE STRATEGIC PLAN HAS TRIED TO DO, IS LOOK AT THOSE UNIQUE ASPECTS AND DETERMINE WHAT SPECIFICALLY DO WE NEED HERE. SO AND I WOULDN'T I WASN'T SHOOTING FOR THE 2.4, BUT I WAS JUST WONDERING IF WE SHOULD BE CLOSER TO TWO IS WHAT I WAS.

BUT AGAIN, THAT'S THAT'S YOUR CALL AND WHAT YOU NEED TO MAKE IT HAPPEN.

SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE THAT WE'RE PROTECTING OUR CITIZENS AND PROVIDING BECAUSE.

ONCE WE BUILD THE ONCE WE BUILD THE SEDITION AND YOU KNOW, CHISUM SUMMIT, EVERYTHING ELSE YOUR 1.6 IS GOING TO GOING TO PLUMMET.

IT IS. AND I DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU.

ONE OF THE YOU KNOW, AT SOME POINT WE OPERATE OUT OF A ONE FACILITY OPERATION BECAUSE WE'RE NOT THE SIZE OF A FORT WORTH THAT OPERATES OUT OF SIX DIFFERENT FACILITIES ON THAT.

BUT YOU HAVE TO PUT ALL OF THE STAFFING IN THAT ONE FACILITY.

SO EACH OF THE FORT WORST DIVISIONS HAS ABOUT 245, OR IT DID WHEN I WAS OVER ONE, 245 PEOPLE IN THERE TO MANAGE THAT.

SO YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE THE MANAGEMENT, YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE DETECTIVES, YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE RESOURCE OFFICER, YOU HAVE TO HAVE EVERYTHING IN ONE LOCATION OR OTHERWISE YOU CAN SAY YOU HAVE THAT, BUT YOU'RE DRIVING EVERYTHING BACK AND FORTH TO THE MAIN STATION ON THAT.

THERE WILL COME A TIME WHERE WE PROBABLY WILL NEED A MORE ROBUST STATION AT ANOTHER PLACE.

THAT TIME IS NOT NOW, IN MY OPINION, BUT THAT'S WHY WE'VE GOT A POWER SHIFT TO BE ABLE TO PUT THEM, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, BE JUDICIOUS WITH THE TAXPAYERS MONEY, PUT THE MOST RESOURCES OUT WHERE WE HAVE THE BIGGEST CARLOADS AND WE WE EVALUATE THAT THROUGH OUR CALEA.

WE CAN TELL YOU ON THURSDAY AFTERNOONS BETWEEN THREE AND FOUR, THAT'S OUR HIGHEST TRAFFIC ACCIDENT TIME.

AND THAT'S PROBABLY STILL STANDS TRUE TODAY, I'M GUESSING.

BUT SO WE THAT'S WHY WE'RE DOING IT.

THE WAY WE'RE DOING IT IS TRYING TO HOLD DOWN COST TO THE CITY BECAUSE WE ALL HAVE NEEDS.

BUT YOU'RE RIGHT, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CONTINUE TO GROW.

YES, SIR. NO.

THE OTHER THING I HAVE WAS KIND OF PIGGYBACK ON OFF WHAT TAMARA WAS TALKING ABOUT ON THE COMMUNICATIONS CENTER.

I WOULD LIKE TO GET IN A DIFFERENT BUILDING SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE WE ARE GETTING READY TO HAVE AMBULANCE SERVICE.

SO I DO HAVE SOME HIPPA CONCERNS AS PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE SHARING A LOT OF PERSONAL MEDICAL INFORMATION AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

I DON'T WANT TO RUN THE RISK OF HAVING PEOPLE WALK BACK AND FORTH OR COME IN THERE AND THAT KIND OF THING.

SO I DO THINK IT WOULD BE VALUABLE TO HAVE A SEPARATE FACILITY JUST FOR THE HIPPA REASONS, IF IF NOTHING ELSE.

I'M FINE WITH THAT. YES, THAT'S ALL.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR INCLUDING THE JAIL STUDY.

I KNOW WE NEED TO START PREPARING AND UNDERSTANDING WHERE OUR LIMITATIONS, IF THERE ARE GOING TO BE SOME, UNDERSTANDABLY, BECAUSE WE CONTRACT WITH ANOTHER COMMUNITY.

AND SO I APPRECIATE THAT WE'RE BEING WE'RE TRYING TO THINK AHEAD AND AND PLAN FOR THAT ADEQUATELY.

MY MEMORY MIGHT BE A LITTLE SHAKY, BUT IS THERE NOT A MOBILE COMMAND VEHICLE THAT WE LIKE? I MEAN, LIKE I SAY, IT'S BEEN A FEW YEARS AND I LIKE IN MY HEAD I'M PICTURING IT WAS KIND OF LIKE A TRAILER.

LOOK, THERE IS A A LARGE MOBILE COMMAND VEHICLE THAT'S UNDER THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT FIRE DEPARTMENT'S UMBRELLA THAT REQUIRES COMMERCIAL LICENSE TO DRIVE ON THAT. AND YOU'RE CALLING AND ASKING THEM TO COME OUT.

WHAT WE WANTED TO BE ABLE TO DO WAS SET UP THE THE VEHICLE THAT WE NEED TO RUN, WHETHER WE'VE GOT A NEGOTIATIONS TEAM THAT WE CAN PUT IN THERE THAT, YOU KNOW, QUIETING DOWN SOME OF THE NOISE, PLUS OUR INCIDENT COMMAND THAT WE'RE RUNNING IN THERE, YOU'VE GOT SWAT COMMANDERS THAT ARE MAKING DECISIONS.

YOU'VE GOT A LOT GOING ON.

AND WE THINK WE NEED ONE THAT IS UNIQUE TO THE PD SET UP BY THE PD AND NOT GENERICALLY SET UP.

THAT'S OUR RATIONALE. COUNCIL MEMBER MCCLENDON AND I WERE ABLE TO GO OUT TO A TRAINING AND WE SAW LIKE IN THE BACK THEY HAD THE HOOD LIFTED UP.

IF THERE'S ELEMENT, IF IT'S RAINING OR WHATEVER, THEY'RE TRYING TO WORK COMPUTERS AND STUFF OUT OF THE BACK OF AN SUV.

AND SO UNDERSTANDABLY, THAT'S NOT THE BEST WORKING CONDITIONS, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S HIGH INTENSITY AND YOU'RE TRYING TO MAKE DECISIONS AND AND TRYING TO COMB THROUGH A LOT OF INFORMATION. I JUST COULDN'T REMEMBER WHO'S WHO THAT FELL UNDER.

AND I HAD REMEMBERED A COMMAND VEHICLE BEING IN OUR I JUST DIDN'T KNOW WHAT UMBRELLA THAT FELL UNDER AND WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE.

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SO IS THAT LIKE A TRAILER? LIKE WHAT DO YOU ANTICIPATE THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE? IS IT A THINK OF A MID-SIZED BOX TRUCK? YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT A MOTORHOME THAT'S ALL THE WAY ACROSS HERE.

IT'D BE ABOUT HALF OF THAT.

AND, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A PRICE OF ONE.

WE'LL LOOK AND SEE WHAT EXACTLY FITS.

BUT, YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE THE BEARCAT AND SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS, WHEN A SWAT DEPLOYMENT HAPPENS, WE END UP WE HAD THAT PARKED IN COVER OUT AT THE SERVICE CENTER.

BUT TIME IS OF ESSENCE TO GET THERE.

SO WE MOVED THAT BACK OVER TO OURS.

WE WANT ONE THAT WE CAN DEPLOY IMMEDIATELY IN CONJUNCTION WITH THAT AND HAVE THE SWAT TEAM TAKE THAT OUT THERE.

WE CAN GET THAT THING OPERATIONAL.

WE CAN PUT A DISPATCHER INSIDE THERE IF WE NEED TO, WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO.

WE RUN ALL THE SPECIAL EVENTS.

WHEN WE RUN THESE SPECIAL EVENTS, WE DON'T BRING THE BIG MOTOR HOME OUT EXCEPT FOR JULY 4TH.

BUT THIS IS ONE THAT WE COULD PUT ON SITE THAT GIVES US A COORDINATION POINT.

I'M THINKING LIKE A UPS TRUCK OR LIKE A FEDEX TRUCK KIND OF SIZE KIND OF THING.

IT'S HARD TO DESCRIBE. I MEAN, IT'S A REGULAR TRUCK, BUT THEN IT HAS THE BIG SHELL ON THE BACK OF IT.

BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'LL BE SOMEWHERE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO SMALLER THAN A BOX. BUT NOT REQUIRE A SPECIAL LICENSE TO DRIVE.

CORRECT. GOT IT. I DON'T THINK THEY REQUIRE THAT, NOT WHAT THE MOTOR HOME DOES.

AND THAT'S NOT THAT WE CAN'T OBTAIN THE LICENSE, BUT THE ACCESSIBILITY AND BEING ABLE TO GET IT THERE.

WELL, IT JUST LIMITS HOW FAST YOU CAN GET IT OUT.

WHO'S ON. AND LOOK, IF YOU HAVE A BIG CRITICAL INCIDENT, YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH OF THOSE.

YOU SAW IN UVALDE, YOU LOOK DOWN THE ROAD THERE AND SAN ANTONIO HAS A HUGE BUS.

THESE THINGS COME IN 18 WHEELERS, BUT YOU DEPLOY A LOT OF THOSE IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS.

YOU KNOW THAT A BIG CRITICAL INCIDENT, YOU'RE GOING TO BE RUNNING MULTIPLE RESOURCES OUT OF OUR DRONE TO BE ABLE TO STREAM RIGHT BACK INTO THAT AND GIVE SITUATIONAL AWARENESS.

SO WE'VE GOT A LOT OF TECHNOLOGY AND THINGS THAT WE CAN TIE INTO THAT OUR ROBOT STREAM THAT RIGHT BACK INTO A COMMAND POST.

THAT'S IMPORTANT THAN RATHER THAN TRYING TO WATCH IT ON THE PHONE.

AND WE WOULDN'T WANT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT DRIVING ILLEGALLY.

THE ARMORED VEHICLE, THAT WOULD BE LIKE BECAUSE I KNOW WHEN WE WERE OUT AT THE TRAINING, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT HOW WE ONLY HAVE ONE CURRENTLY.

AND SO YOU'RE RISKING USING AN S.U.V.

TO TRY AND BLOCK IN AND THOSE AREN'T ARMORED.

AND SO IN ADDITION TO PROVIDING MEDICAL EMERGENCY RESOURCE THAT ALSO WOULD BE DEPLOYED FOR THOSE OPPORTUNITIES, I'M ASSUMING IF IT'S CORRECT, IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY TO APPLY FOR GRANTS? I KNOW WE GOT THAT ONE OFF OF APPROPRIATIONS.

THERE MAY BE, I DON'T KNOW.

BUT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A DELAY ON GRANTS.

YOU KNOW, YOU APPLY FOR ONE AND YOU MAY HEAR FROM IT A YEAR OR A YEAR AND A HALF LATER ON THAT I'M LOOKING FOR.

AND THEN YOU HEAR FROM IT AND YOU DON'T GET IT.

YOU KNOW, AGAIN, YOU GO BACK INTO IN, YOU KNOW, NOT USING THESE TERRIBLE INCIDENTS, BUT USING THESE TERRIBLE INCIDENTS.

THAT'S EXACTLY WHEN YOU NEED THAT.

AND TO BE ABLE TO GET FROM A PARKING LOT, IF SOMEBODY'S GOT AN AR SHOOTING OUT AT YOU, YOU KNOW, TO BE ABLE TO GET FROM A PARKING LOT UP THERE, GET TO THE HOT ZONE, START GETTING FIRE DEPARTMENT IN THERE WITH US, LETTING THEM GET OUT, START TRIAGING AND LOAD THEM UP, GET THEM OUT OF THERE WITHOUT RUNNING A RISK OF GETTING GUNFIRE.

THAT'S GOING TO INCAPACITATE SOMEBODY WITHIN THAT VEHICLE.

I MEAN, THAT'S THE IT'S KIND OF LIKE INSURANCE.

YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T NEED IT UNTIL YOU NEED IT.

AND THEN WHEN YOU NEED IT, YOU BETTER HAVE IT.

SO YOU BROUGHT UP THE SROS AND WE WERE ABLE TO ADD TWO POSITIONS THIS THIS BUDGET YEAR.

AND I BROUGHT THIS UP AT THE BEGINNING OF OUR BUDGET CONVERSATIONS THAT THE THAT A NUMBER OF PARENTS HAVE REACHED OUT ABOUT STEAM NOT HAVING ITS OWN OR..

STEAM. THE OLD HIGH SCHOOL NOT COLLEGIATE WHICH COLLEGIATE AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER A MIDDLE SCHOOL CAMPUS LOCATED THERE ARE NOT WELL BUT I KNOW THAT CAMPUS DOESN'T HAVE ITS OWN SRO AND MY I KNOW WE'RE LOCATING THE HILL COLLEGE THERE SO THERE WILL BE A LOT MORE FOOT TRAFFIC IN A DIFFERENT AGE RANGE OF INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE ON THAT CAMPUS.

YOU'LL HAVE A COLLEGE FILL ON ONE PORTION AND A HIGH SCHOOL ON ANOTHER.

AND SO SEEING THE UNFORTUNATE EVENTS THAT RECENTLY TAKE PLACE, IT'S REALLY AND I KNOW WE'RE NOT THE I REALIZE THIS IS A PARTNERSHIP WITH BISD AND I'VE SPOKEN WITH THE SUPERINTENDENT AND HIS DIRECTOR OVER SAFETY AND THOSE THINGS.

BUT I DON'T KNOW.

TRYING TO PLAN AHEAD THAT HILL HILL COLLEGE CAMPUS, I THINK IS SUPPOSED TO OPEN LATER THIS YEAR, MAYBE EARLY NEXT YEAR.

AND I DON'T HOW CAN WE ENCOURAGE HAVING AN SRO DEDICATED TO THAT CAMPUS? YOU KNOW, AND CERTAINLY THESE ARE VERY WORTHY CONVERSATIONS RIGHT NOW AS WE'RE ALL LOOKING TO PROTECT THESE KIDS, ONE OF THE HIGHEST PRIORITIES WE HAVE.

SO YOU'RE RIGHT IN THAT WE'RE IN A PARTNERSHIP WITH BISD.

I TALKED TO STEVE LOGAN A WHILE BACK ABOUT COLLEGIATE HIGH SCHOOL.

THERE'S 210, I THINK IT IS STUDENTS AT COLLEGIATE RIGHT NOW.

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IT'S GOING TO INCREASE IN SIZE, NO DOUBT, HE SAID AT THAT TIME, HE SAID, AND WE TALKED THIS WEEK, HE AND MICHAELA HILL AND I TALKED AND HE SAID AT THAT TIME, WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO ADD TO THE COLLEGIATE, BUT IN THE FUTURE WE WILL WANT TO ADD TO THE COLLEGIATE.

AND PREPARING FOR THIS.

YOU GO BACK IN AND IT BEGS THE QUESTION OF WHAT'S THE WHAT'S THE MOST JUDICIOUS USE OF SROS? TO CLARIFY, WE'VE GOT TWO IN CHS, WE'VE GOT TWO AND WE HAVE ONE IN KERR, ONE IN REALM, ONE IN HUGHES.

AND THE SUPERVISOR WORKS OUT OF STEAM.

SO WE'VE GOT THAT'S THE SCHOOLS THAT WE HAVE THE HIGH SCHOOLS AND THE MIDDLE SCHOOLS ON THAT WE DO NOT HAVE ANY ASSIGNED TO OUR ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS.

HOWEVER, AS A SUBSEQUENT GO BY AND CHECK ON YOUR ELEMENTARIES, BUT THEY'RE NOT IN THERE FULL TIME.

JUST TO BE JUST TO BE CLEAR ON THAT, WE'VE GOT THE AVERAGE POPULATION OF THE TEN ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS IS 551 STUDENTS. SO IT BEGS THE QUESTION, DO YOU PUT AN SRO IN A IN AN ELEMENTARY OR DO YOU PUT THEM IN ONE WITH 210? YOU KNOW, WE WANT THEM IN ALL OF THEM IS WHAT I WOULD SAY TO THAT.

YOUR AVERAGE THREE MIDDLE SCHOOLS OR 941 STUDENTS AND THEY RANGE STEAM WITH 505 UP TO CUR WITH 1255 STUDENTS.

THE AVERAGE IN B AND C IS 1821.

AND THEN, LIKE I SAID, COLLEGIATE HAS 210 IN IT.

SO, YOU KNOW, YOU GO BACK IN AND YOU LOOK AT WHAT YOU WOULD DO IT.

NUMBER ONE, IT'S A PARTNERSHIP WITH BISD.

UNLESS WE'RE GOING TO TAKE ON FUNDING ALL OF THAT, AND WE DO A 5050, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO BE IN CONCERT WITH THEM.

AND DR.

JAMERSON WAS OUT THIS WEEK, SO I WAS NOT ABLE TO GET IN AND TALK TO HIM.

BUT WE HAVE A PLAN TO COME BACK TOGETHER AND AND SPEAK MORE ABOUT THAT.

I JUST THINK THAT CAMPUS IS JUST IT'S DIFFERENT BECAUSE IT WILL HAVE A COLLEGE CAMPUS LOCATED ON IT.

IT ALSO IS ONE OF OUR OLDEST BUILDINGS IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, AND IT HAS A LOT OF JUST QUIRKS TO IT AND A TON OF DOORS AND ACCESS POINTS THAT WE UNDERSTAND OTHER CAMPUSES DON'T HAVE.

AND IT'S EASY TO TO GET CONFUSED AND LOST IN THAT BUILDING.

AND SO IT JUST I THINK IT'S MAKEUP IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT AND THAT'S MY CONCERN AND IN PARTICULAR BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO BE ADDING A DIFFERENT ELEMENT TO IT.

AND I DON'T I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT HOW THOSE HOW THE TWO THE NEWER FACILITY WILL INTERSECT WITH THE EXISTING.

BUT JUST KNOWING THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT A LOT OF DIFFERENT COME AND GO TRAFFIC IN A WIDER POPULATION AGE RANGE WITH WITH THE COLLEGE THAT WILL SOON BE LOCATED THERE.

SO I UNDERSTAND YOU.

YOU'RE HAVING THE CONVERSATIONS.

VERY GOOD, CHIEF.

I HAVE ONE ONE QUESTION ON THE EVIDENCE.

I KNOW WE'VE WE'VE I KNOW IT'S WAY OVER FOUR AND I KNOW THERE'S RETENTION CYCLES WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN DEPENDING ON THE TYPE OF CRIMINAL OFFENSE THAT'S INVOLVED.

AND I KNOW YOU'VE ASKED FOR A RECORDS CLERK, SO IF WE'RE NOT DOING IT YET, THAT'S OKAY, WE'LL TAKE CARE OF IT.

BUT HAVE WE BEEN HAVING DRUG BURNS AND AUCTIONS OF OF DIFFERENT PROPERTY AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE? WE DO. BUT PART OF THE PROBLEM RIGHT NOW, TOO, NOT TO THROW ANOTHER LOCATION UNDER THE BUS, BUT WITH.

SO WE'LL GO THIS WAY WITH COVID, THE BACKLOG IN COURT CASES ALSO HAS WE HAVE A SIGNIFICANT BACKLOG IN THE DESTRUCTION ORDERS.

IT HAS TO COME FROM THE MAGISTRATE AND WE'RE WAITING ON THOSE TO BE SIGNED TO TAKE THAT AND HAVE THOSE DESTROYED.

BUT YEAH, THAT'S PART OF THE PROBLEM.

I MEAN, COVID WELL, IT CHANGED ALL OF OUR WORLDS, RIGHT? BUT I MEAN, WE'RE SUFFERING FOR THAT.

SO IT'S YOU KNOW, WE MAY NOT HAVE NEEDED MORE SPACE, BUT FOR THESE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE NOW.

THANK YOU. YEAH. I DO HAVE TO SPEAK FOR CARDS, MAYOR.

CAN I SPEAK FIRST? GO AHEAD. I'M SORRY. SORRY.

I JUST. JUST TURN MY LIGHT ON HERE.

CHIEF, YOU MENTIONED BRIEFLY THE BOND PACKAGE AND SHOWED US WHAT YOUR INTENTIONS WERE GOING FORWARD RIGHT NOW.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT GOING TO OTHER POLICE DEPARTMENTS, LOOKING TO SEE WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND PERHAPS GOING AHEAD WITH RFK'S FOR AN ARCHITECT FIRM.

MY TAKE AWAY FROM THE ELECTION WAS THAT WAS THE BIGGEST ITEM ON THE BOND ISSUE AND IT WAS THE ONE THAT PASSED BY THE SLIMMEST MARGIN.

MY TAKEAWAY FROM THAT IS THAT A LOT OF A LOT OF CITIZENS AND AS WELL AS MYSELF HAVE CONCERNS THAT I THINK IF YOU SUMMED UP OUR OPINION, IT WOULD BE WE SUPPORT YOU, BUT WE REALLY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING THE RIGHT THING BECAUSE I DIDN'T EXPECT THAT IT WOULD BE SUCH A SLIM MARGIN BETWEEN YESES AND NOS ON THAT PARTICULAR ISSUE.

I THINK IT'S AN INDICATION THAT PEOPLE HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS, AS I DO.

YOU HAVE A BROAD PERSPECTIVE FROM HAVING SERVED IN A LARGER POLICE AGENCY, AND I VALUE THAT

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AND I KNOW IT'S VERY WORTHWHILE, BUT I KNOW THERE ARE I THINK THERE PERHAPS MIGHT BE LARGER PERSPECTIVES YET TO BE GAINED.

MY QUESTION IS SORT OF SIMPLE.

I KNOW WHEN WE STUDIED THE FIRE DEPARTMENT EFFORT, WE HIRED A CONSULTANT FIRM, FITCH, THAT SPECIALIZES IN COMING INTO FIRE AND EMS AGENCIES AND EVALUATING THEIR ENTIRE MISSION AND MAKE SUGGESTIONS AS TO HOW TO IMPROVE PROCESSES AND ACTUALLY GET THEM TO STEP BACK AND TAKE A LOOK AT JUST HOW THEY'RE DOING THINGS AND IF THEY'RE ON THE RIGHT PATH COMPARED TO OTHER CITIES EVERYWHERE.

I DON'T KNOW IF ANY SUCH THING EXISTS IN POLICING, BUT MY QUESTION IS, ARE WE CERTAIN THAT WE HAVE AVAILED OURSELVES OF ALL APPROPRIATE AND AVAILABLE RESOURCES TO ASSURE US THAT WE'RE ON THE RIGHT COURSE AND THAT AND TO ASSURE US THAT WE ARE INDEED AT THE POINT WHERE WE'RE READY TO HIRE AN ARCHITECT.

MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE FUNCTION OF AN ARCHITECT, THE FEW I'VE DEALT WITH, ARE THAT THEY BASICALLY WILL TAKE WHAT YOU WANT AND PUT IT ON PAPER FOR YOU AND TELL YOU THE BEST, PERHAPS MOST EFFICIENT WAY TO BUILD IT.

BUT ARE THEY TELLING YOU THAT THAT'S THE MOST EFFICIENT THING THAT YOU SHOULD BE BUILDING? WE'VE TALKED ABOUT JAILING.

WE'VE TALKED ABOUT OTHER THINGS THAT WE'RE WE WERE SORT OF AT A POINT NOW AND YOU MENTIONED EARLIER THAT FORT WORTH EVENTUALLY GOT TO A POINT WHERE THEY NEEDED A SATELLITE STATION SOMEWHERE. I'D LIKE TO HAVE AN IDEA.

AS THIS CITY GROWS FROM ITS CURRENT POPULATION OF 50 TO ITS BUILD OUT OF PERHAPS 150 OR 160,000, WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE BECAUSE WE'RE SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY AT THIS POINT, I'D LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THAT MONEY SPENT IN THE BEST WAY WE POSSIBLY CAN WITH AN EYE TO THE FUTURE.

DID YOU DISTILL A QUESTION OUT OF ALL THOSE COMMENTS? WELL, AS YOU CAN SEE, 30 MINUTES UNCERTAIN ABOUT WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW AND WHAT THE NEXT STEP REALLY SHOULD BE.

LOOK, I SO SO SOME OF THE QUESTIONS I'VE GARNISHED OUT OF WHAT YOU SAID THERE IS THAT FIRE DEPARTMENT USED SOMEBODY TO COME IN AND A CONSULTANT TO COME IN, FITCH AND ASSOCIATES TO LOOK AT WHAT THEY'RE DOING FOR THE RESOURCES.

I'M NOT AFRAID OF THAT AT ALL BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO DO THE SAME THING.

YOU SAID THEY'RE GOING TO COME IN AND ASK YOU, WHAT DO YOU NEED? AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO BE PLEASED TO TELL YOU WHAT WE NEED ON THAT FOR THE STAFFING PIECE OF THAT.

AND THERE'S PLENTY OF CONSULTANTS YOU CAN GO THROUGH PERF AND GET THEM IN HERE.

THAT DOESN'T BOTHER ME A BIT.

OUR STRATEGIC PLAN WE DID INTERNALLY AND I FELT CONFIDENT IN THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT WERE INVOLVED IN THAT.

GIVE YOU A LITTLE BACKGROUND.

AND WE'VE HIRED CONSULTANTS WHEN I WAS AT FORT WORTH THROUGH PERF AND THEY CAME IN AND EVALUATED THE ENTIRE DEPARTMENT.

WE'LL GET INTO ALL OF THAT.

BUT YOU KNOW, A CONSULTANT IS SOMEBODY THAT SPENT 30 YEARS IN THE BUSINESS, SOMEBODY THAT HAS HIGHER EDUCATION, SOMEBODY THAT KNOWS THE BUSINESS.

OUR TOP FOUR COMMAND STAFF HAVE A COMBINED 138 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE WITH 108 YEARS OF THOSE IN BURLESON.

THEY KNOW BURLESON.

THEY KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING WITHIN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND SOME OF THE THINGS OF WHERE WE'RE GOING.

WE CONSULTED WITH ALL OF OUR OFFICERS AND SAID, IF YOU KNOW WHAT, WHAT DO YOU THINK YOU NEED FOR THE FUTURE? WELL, WE NEED A K-9. WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO PUT MORE PEOPLE ON THE SHIFT DURING THIS TIME.

THOSE WERE SOME OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE HAD.

TIM MAYBERRY PUT THAT PLAN TOGETHER.

HE HAS A MASTER'S DEGREE FROM TCU AND CRIMINAL JUSTICE AND CRIMINOLOGY WHERE HE WAS AWARDED THE BEST RESEARCHER AND STATISTIC PERSON FOR HIS CLASS.

I'VE GOT MY GRADUATE DEGREE.

I PUT SEVERAL BUILDINGS TOGETHER IN FORT WORTH THAT WERE ON MY OWN, THE CENTRAL PATROL DIVISION, THE ONE THAT'S ACROSS FROM PARIS COFFEE SHOP.

THE ONE IN THE NIGHT SHELTER AREA.

AND THEN I WAS INVOLVED HEAVILY IN THE THE $105 MILLION PROJECT FOR THE TRAINING CENTER AT FORT WORTH THAT WE RECENTLY TOURED.

THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT I'M AN ARCHITECT OR I'M THE BEST PERSON FOR THIS.

IF YOU WANT TO IF EVERYBODY FEELS MORE COMFORTABLE WITH HIRING SOMEBODY, LET'S DO THAT.

IF THAT MAKES YOU COMFORTABLE, I DON'T KNOW.

YOU KNOW, AT WHAT POINT WE WILL COME INTO THE 150,000 PEOPLE THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

BUT THIS WE HIRED AN ARCHITECT TO COME IN AND GIVE US A FEASIBILITY STUDY OF WHAT WE NEED FOR THE NEXT 15 YEARS.

AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THE THE THE BUILDOUT ON THIS, THE DELAY ON IT, THE COST OF MATERIALS AND STUFF.

YOU KNOW, THE ESCALATION WAS 25%.

THAT'S A HUGE NUMBER AT 25%.

BUT WE BENCHMARKED OTHER CITIES AND WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

MANSFIELD IS BUILDING A $34 MILLION FACILITY.

THEY FUND IT OUT OF CO'S.

WAXAHACHIE HAS A NEW FACILITY THAT WE'RE GOING TO GO TO.

I DON'T REMEMBER THE COST ON THAT.

BUT, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT AND SAY, WHAT ARE THE SPACES WE NEED? AND TALKING TO THEM AND THEY TALK TO US THROUGHOUT OUR ORGANIZATION TO OFFICERS, WHAT SPACES DO YOU NEED? SO WE DIDN'T REALLY DO THAT IN A BUBBLE AND IT WASN'T ME JUST SITTING HERE THROWING A DOOR TO THE DARTBOARD SAYING LET'S ADD THIS AMOUNT OF SPACE TO THIS.

I'LL USE THE TRAINING BECAUSE I'M PASSIONATE ABOUT THAT.

THAT'S AN 8000 SQUARE FOOT PIECE OF THIS.

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EVERYTHING WE DO HAS A LIABILITY TO THAT, AND IT CAN GET EXPENSIVE IF WE DON'T TRAIN.

WHEN I STARTED THERE AS A FOR EXAMPLE, YOU GO THROUGH THE ACADEMY AND YOU TAKE DEFENSIVE TACTICS COURSES.

YOU COULD RETIRE 25 YEARS LATER FROM BPD.

HAVING NOT DONE ANOTHER DEFENSIVE TACTICS COURSE, THAT IS A TREMENDOUS, TREMENDOUS LIABILITY.

WE WEREN'T IN A POSITION TO TRAIN AND AND ENCOURAGE TRAINING.

WE DID TWO QUALIFICATIONS A YEAR WITH OUR HANDGUNS.

YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT TO HAVE DEFENSIVE TACTICS.

WE'VE GOT TO HAVE DE-ESCALATION.

I'M PUTTING 250 PERSON ROOMS IN THERE AS A GOAL OF GETTING DOLAN CONSTRUCTION'S READ CONSTRUCTION DOLAN CONSULTANTS REED INTERROGATION ALL THESE SCHOOLS COMING IN BECAUSE WE WILL GET FREE SLOTS IN THOSE CLASSES IF WE HOST THAT TO DEVELOP OUR EMPLOYEES.

PERF POLICE EXECUTIVE RESEARCH FORUM CHUCK WEXLER ONE COMMENT AND THEN FORMER PRESIDENT NAACP IS ANOTHER ONE THEY SAID, CAN TRAINING BOOST YOUR RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION? ABSOLUTELY, BECAUSE THE MILLENNIALS WANT TO KNOW WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO BE TRAINED AND HOW THEY'RE GOING TO BE TRAINED.

SO, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE TOTALITY OF THE CIRCUMSTANCES AND THE PICTURES, WE'RE BASING THIS FACILITY ON A 15 YEAR PROJECTION.

IT WILL BE THE LARGEST FACILITY.

IF YOU PUT ANOTHER ONE OUT IN THE CHISHOLM TRAIL SOME AREA, IT WON'T BE NEAR AS LARGE, BUT YOU'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE TO STAFF IT WITH THE APPROPRIATE LEVEL OF RESOURCES ON THAT. SO I DON'T KNOW IF I TOUCHED ON EVERYTHING YOU SAID.

I'M GLAD TO GO BACK, BUT THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHTS ON THIS.

AND AGAIN, WE'RE TRYING NOT TO DO THINGS IN A BUBBLE, BUT I'VE GOT CONFIDENCE IN OUR STAFF THAT THEY SAY THIS IS WHAT WE NEED.

AND THEN WE TAKE THAT TO BRIAN AND WE, YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE WE'RE DOING TODAY, TRYING TO JUSTIFY ALL OF THAT TO YOU TO MAKE SURE THAT IT MAKES SENSE.

YOU KNOW, THE MORE EYES THAT SEE IT, THE BETTER OFF WE ARE.

I WOULD JUST ADD TO THAT THAT WHEN WE SELECT AN ARCHITECT AND BRING THAT ARCHITECT FORWARD TO THE COUNCIL, THEY'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO BACK THROUGH THOSE GROWTH PROJECTIONS ON STAFF THAT BRW HAD DONE AND VALIDATE THOSE OR MAKE CORRECTIONS TO THOSE AND LOOK AT A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS OF HOW WE CAN BUILD THAT BUILDING.

AND THE QUESTIONS COME UP ABOUT THE COMMUNICATIONS CENTER.

WHERE COULD THAT BE ON THE SIDE? HOW COULD THAT BE DONE DIFFERENTLY? YOU'LL CERTAINLY HAVE LOTS OF OPPORTUNITIES TO LOOK AT THAT, BUT A DETAILED STAFFING PLAN IS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT THE ARCHITECT WILL DO.

AND IF YOU WANT TO HAVE A DETAILED, OUTSOURCED VERSION OF THAT, WE CAN CERTAINLY PURSUE THAT AND PERHAPS TO THOSE IN PARALLEL, IF YOU'D LIKE TO DO THAT.

OK. I HOPE YOU DIDN'T TAKE MY COMMENTS AS ANY KIND OF INDICATION THAT I DOUBT YOUR ABILITY TO PLAN OR DOUBT THAT YOU UNDERSTAND THE CITY VERY WELL AND YOUR STAFF DOES AS WELL. IF THE REST OF THE COUNCIL IS COMFORTABLE WHERE WE ARE WITH THE PROCESS RIGHT NOW, THEN I'LL BEAR ALONG AND GO ALONG WITH COURSE. I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS AGAIN.

I'M NOT UP HERE PRETENDING TO BE THE SMARTEST GUY IN THE ROOM.

IF THERE'S A BETTER WAY OF DOING THAT, WE'RE ALL EARS TO DO THAT.

BECAUSE IN THE END, WHAT I WANT IS A PLACE THAT OUR OFFICERS WILL BE ABLE TO HOUSE FOR THE NEXT 15 YEARS, HAVE THE ROOM TO DO THAT, BE ABLE TO TRAIN LIKE WE NEED THEM TO TRAIN AND TO BE ABLE TO NOT WORRY ABOUT THESE ISSUES FOR 15 YEARS.

AND HOWEVER WE GET THERE.

I DON'T HAVE ANY, YOU KNOW, THING, BUT WANTING TO FIND THE RIGHT PLACE FOR FOR THEM AND FOR OUR CITIZENS TO BE ABLE TO SERVE THEM.

SO I THINK I'M GOING TO CHIME IN ON THE HOW YOU SAID IT.

OF COURSE, WE DON'T HAVE A CRYSTAL BALL.

WE CAN'T PREDICT HOW WE'RE GOING TO GROW, HOW FAST WE KNOW THESE DEVELOPMENTS ARE COMING.

BUT WITH INFLATION AND WITH THE WAY HOUSING COST, WHO KNOWS HOW FAST THOSE ROOFTOPS TRULY ARE GOING TO COME? BUT THAT WAS A CONCERN I HAD WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE BOND PACKAGE WAS, YOU KNOW, OH, WE'RE PLANNING FOR STATION, FIRE STATION 4, AND THERE CAN BE A COMPONENT FOR THE PD. BUT THEN HEARING YOU SAY TODAY, WELL, IF YOU LOOK AT A SATELLITE, IT NEEDS TO HAVE ALL OF THESE TO TO BE EFFICIENT, TO ACTUALLY WORK AS ITS INTENDED TO COVER A BEAT, A DISTRICT, AN AREA IT NEEDS TO HAVE SOMEONE IN COMMAND AND SOMEONE AT EACH OF THESE LEVELS.

AND THAT JUST MAKES SENSE. AND SO I HAVE A HARD TIME JUST ENSURING THAT I UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE HESITATION OF JUST AVERAGE CITIZEN DRIVING BY AND SAYING THAT'S A THAT'S A NEW ISH FACILITY.

AND YOU ALL WERE SQUISHED IN A POSTAGE STAMP DOWN THE STREET HERE FOR SO LONG.

AND THEN YOU MOVED IN.

AND THE PER THE OPTICS OF IT IS IT'S A BIG BUILDING, BUT WE DON'T REALLY, TRULY ALL KNOW THE AVERAGE CITIZEN DOES NOT KNOW WHAT'S INSIDE THERE, WHAT YOU'RE LIMITED TO.

YOU KNOW, YOU LOOK AT THESE PICTURES OF EVIDENCE ROOM, IT'S YES, WE NEED MORE STORAGE EVIDENCE FOR EVIDENCE AND TRAINING FACILITIES THAT MAKE SENSE.

AND THEN YOU HAVE TO WONDER LIKE, BUT BUT WHAT ELSE GOES INTO THIS EXPANSION? IS IT OFFICES FOR EVERY SINGLE PERSON IN LEADERSHIP? YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THE DETAILS OF THAT? AND THEN HOW HOW DO WE ENSURE THAT SOME OF THOSE AREN'T THEN IN A COUPLE OF YEARS LEFT VACANT BECAUSE THAT BECAUSE THE IDEA OF A SATELLITE LOCATION

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MAKES MORE SENSE NOW THAT WE'RE GROWING OUT AND WE NEED THESE POSITIONS TO HAVE A PRESENCE ON THIS SIDE, ON THE WEST SIDE OF TOWN THAT THEN THEY CURRENTLY NEED. THE NEED IS FOR NOW.

I MEAN, I'M UNDERSTANDING WHERE MAYOR PRO TEM IS.

WHAT HE WAS SAYING IS LIKE WE DON'T KNOW NECESSARILY HOW WE'RE GOING TO GROW, HOW FAST WE'RE GOING TO GROW.

AND IT'S ONE THING FOR AN ARCHITECT FIRM TO SAY, I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

YOU IDEALLY WANT A K-9 UNIT AND THEN IN IN SIX YEARS, YOU'RE GOING TO ADD ANOTHER TO THAT UNIT.

SO THIS SPACE NEEDS TO BE SUCH AND SUCH BIG.

BUT WHAT ABOUT IT'S JUST HARD TO I JUST WANT TO ENSURE THAT WHATEVER WE'RE BUILDING OUT HERE DOESN'T THEN TRANSLATE TO THE GROWTH THAT WE NEED IN ANOTHER AREA OF OUR TOWN.

AND THEN IT'S IT'S NOT UTILIZED WHAT WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE.

AND AND I KNOW IT'S HARD BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A CRYSTAL BALL.

WE DON'T KNOW HOW FAST WE'RE GOING TO GROW.

BUT JUST TO ENSURE THAT YOU'RE ACTUALLY THE DEPARTMENT ITSELF IS GOING TO HAVE THE RESOURCES THAT IT NEEDS, WHERE IT NEEDS THEM AND WHEN.

AND I HAVE BEEN A LITTLE CURIOUS ABOUT A STAFFING STUDY OF LIKE, YOU KNOW, YOU HEAR THESE STATISTICS OF A COMMUNITY SHOULD HAVE 2.4 OR WHATEVER PER 1000.

AND I KNOW EVERY COMMUNITY IS MADE UP DIFFERENT.

WE HAVE DIFFERENT CRIMES THAN ALVARADO DOES.

WE HAVE DIFFERENT NEEDS THAN FORT WORTH DOES.

BUT ARE YOU AND LIKE YOU SAID, ANY TIME YOUR GUYS ARE ASKING, DO YOU NEED MORE PEOPLE, SURE, WE NEED MORE PEOPLE.

BUT IS IT WHAT AREAS AND HOW DOES HOW DO YOU HOW DO YOU PLAN FOR GROWTH? AND I DON'T KNOW ALL THE ANSWERS TO THESE QUESTIONS BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW.

LIKE, YOU CAN'T PREDICT WHAT KIND OF CRIME IS GOING TO BE POPULAR.

WHO WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT CATALYTIC CONVERTERS WERE SO POPULAR RIGHT NOW? SO HOW DO YOU ADEQUATELY BUILD OUT AND SPIN MONEY TO THE BEST OF YOUR ABILITY AND BE COGNIZANT BUT ALSO PLANNING FOR? WE'RE ABOUT TO EXPERIENCE AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF GROWTH THAT'S NOT CONVENIENT TO THIS LOCATION OFF OF 174.

YEAH, SO GREAT QUESTIONS.

THE ANSWER TO THAT IS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CONTINUE TO GROW.

WE GET TO 175,000 PEOPLE.

THAT CHANGES THAT DYNAMIC.

RIGHT NOW WE'RE 50,000.

I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT THE PROJECTION, MAYOR, YOU'VE SAID.

WE'RE GOING TO BE AT 70,000 IN TEN YEARS, YOU KNOW.

SO WE'RE CENTRALLY LOCATED AT THE FACILITY.

WE ARE, WHICH IS GOOD.

THE THE ROOM THAT IS PROVIDED AT THE FIRE STATION PROVIDES SOME RELIEF TO WHAT YOU'RE ASKING, BUT IT'S NOT A FULL FLEDGED POLICE DEPARTMENT.

AND THAT'S WHERE I WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU AND OTHERS UNDERSTAND, IS THAT YOU HAVE A ROOM IN THERE WHERE YOU MAY HAVE A COMMUNITY RESOURCE OFFICER THAT HOUSES OUT OF THERE.

SO IN THAT COMMUNITY COMES IN AND NEEDS TO ASK THE QUESTION, TALK TO A POLICE OFFICER.

THEY DON'T THEY CAN EITHER CALL OR THEY CAN DON'T HAVE TO DRIVE OVER DOWN THERE.

THEY CAN STOP IN THERE AND AND VISIT WITH THEM.

OFFICERS THAT ARE WORKING THE NIGHT SHIFT.

WHEN THEY DO A REPORT, THEY COULD GO IN THERE AND DO THEIR REPORT AS OPPOSED TO DRIVING ALL THE WAY BACK HERE AND THEN BACK OUT THERE.

SO THE STOP GAP IS THE POWER SHIFT SO THAT WE CAN ADD MORE RESOURCES OUT THERE.

IN THE PAST PRESENTATIONS, WE PULLED PEOPLE FROM IF WE GOT A TWO PERSON CALL IN NORTH, WHICH IS 40 SOMETHING PERCENT OF OUR CALL LOAD, HE PULLS SOMEBODY FROM WEST AND THEY COME UP HERE. THEY'RE HERE FOR 20 MINUTES TO GET THERE AN HOUR, 20 MINUTES TO GET BACK, AND WE LEAVE THAT EXPOSED.

THE POWER SHIFT IS GOING TO PUT MORE PEOPLE AT THE PEAK TIMES IN THOSE AREAS.

THAT GIVES US THAT STOPGAP.

YOU'VE GOT TO UNDERSTAND, WE DON'T OPERATE OUT OF JUST ONE.

WE OPERATE ON ONE FACILITY, BUT WE'RE NOT ALL IN THAT FACILITY.

WAITING TO TAKE A CALL OUT THERE.

WE GO AND WE COVER OUR BEATS.

THEY THEY GET IN THEY GO THROUGH ROLL CALL AND THEY GO OUT AND THEY'RE ON THE BEAT.

THEIR OFFICE AT THAT POINT, IS THEIR CAR READY TO GET TO THAT? SO IT'S NOT I DON'T THINK OF IT AS YOU'RE HAVING TO RESPOND TO THIS ONE BUILDING.

THAT'S THE HUB WHERE THEY BRING PROPERTY, WHERE THEY DO REPORTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT AT PRESENT.

BUT THEY'LL HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO REPORTS OUT AT THAT FIRE STATION, FOR EXAMPLE.

ONCE YOU GET IF YOU IF YOU GET BEYOND 3400 DOORS OF CHISHOLM SUMMIT AND YOU START GETTING OUT THERE WITH 10,000 DOORS, THEN YOU MAY WANT TO LOOK AT EXPANDING THAT TO A LARGER FOOTPRINT AND HOUSING A GROUP OUT THERE.

BUT, YOU KNOW, WE KNOW THAT THE WEST IS GOING TO EXPLODE.

WE DON'T HAVE A CRYSTAL BALL ON WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE REST OF THE CITY.

BUT FOR THE NEXT 15 YEARS, WE FEEL COMFORTABLE THAT THIS IS A CENTRALIZED LOCATION AND THAT WE CAN DISPERSE FROM THERE, AS WE DO EVERY DAY.

I HOPE THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION.

THANK YOU, SIR. I APPRECIATE IT.

NO QUESTIONS. I'M NOT LOOKING FOR ONE.

NO, I THINK THE ONLY THING I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS, YOU KNOW HOW I FEEL ABOUT DESIGN BUILD COMPANIES.

YES, SIR. OKAY. I'M NOT TOO FIRED UP ABOUT THAT.

YOU'RE GOING TO CORRECT DIRECTION BY GETTING AN ARCHITECT TO LAY OUT WHAT WE WANT INSTEAD OF WHAT A DESIGN BILL WANTS US TO HAVE.

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SO JUST BEING COST EFFECTIVE IS WHERE WE'RE GOING TO.

I WANT TO GO WITH THIS AND IT'S A TOUGH JOB ON BRIAN AND THE FACT THAT WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THE COUNTRY IS GOING.

SO ANYWAY, DO WHAT YOU DO.

AND I'M NOT MARRIED TO ANY PARTICULAR..

I UNDERSTAND THAT.

COMPANY OR BUILD.

I THINK WE HAVE TO GO INTO IT WITH AN OPEN MIND.

WE'RE PUTTING A LOT OF MONEY INTO THIS AND WE WANT IT RIGHT.

WE GET THE DESIGN DONE.

WE CAN MAYBE GET SOME COMPETITIVE BIDS ON IT.

YES. THE CONSTRUCTION.

YES, SIR. THANK YOU, BUDDY.

THANK YOU. I DO HAVE TWO SPEAKER MORE CARDS ON THIS ITEM.

THE FIRST SPEAKER IS BILL JANESH.

BILL JANESH, 117 NORTHEAST CLINTON.

I ENJOYED YOUR PRESENTATION A LOT.

A COUPLE OF THINGS I WANT TO RUN ACROSS.

DAN, YOU HAD MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT QUESTION THE VOTES BEING SO CLOSE.

WHAT I'VE HEARD A LOT OF THE CITIZENS TALK ABOUT IS THEY DON'T TRUST THE BOND MONEY FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WILL ALL BE THERE WHEN IT COMES TIME TO BUILD.

I THINK IT THINKS IT'S GOING TO BE REALLOCATED OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

I KNOW I'VE HEARD DOZENS OF TIMES BRIAN OR MARTIN OR OTHERS TALK ABOUT PUSH THE MONEY, MOVING MONEY, SPENDING IT SOMEWHERE ELSE.

WE'VE ALL HEARD THE CHIEF JUST NOW AGAIN, AND HE'S BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT FOR QUITE SOME TIME, AT LEAST SIX MONTHS BEFORE THE BOND COMMITTEE EVEN STARTED.

ABOUT BEING SHORT ON SPACE, NEEDING FACILITIES.

THERE'S GOT TO BE SOME MONEY RIGHT NOW.

I GUESS SOME ARPA MONEY MAY STILL EXIST WHERE THEY COULD POSSIBLY BUILD A METAL BUILDING OR SOMETHING.

WHEN YOU START THINKING ABOUT WHERE TO BUILD PROPERTY, I KNOW MUNICIPAL COURTS RIGHT NEXT DOOR, YOU WOULD THINK THAT WOULD BE THE SAFEST ROUTE.

THEN YOU THINK ABOUT FOOTPRINT.

YOU'D REALLY PROBABLY RATHER GO TO STORY BUILDING.

THAT'S UP TO YOU GUYS TO DECIDE.

BUT WITH THE RECENT SCHOOL SHOOTINGS AND STUFF LIKE THAT, THERE'S FIXING TO BE A HEAVY PUSH TO PUT AN OFFICER IN EVERY SCHOOL.

TEN MORE OFFICERS, THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE DESKS FOR THE GUYS THAT THEY HAVE NOW.

WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO GO? I MEAN, YOU GUYS GOT TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING NOW BECAUSE IF THERE HAPPENED TO BE ANOTHER SCHOOL SHOOTING, IT'S GOING TO GET WORSE.

I MEAN, YOU'VE GOT MORE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, FIXING TO HAVING TO GO SOMEWHERE.

THE BOND MONEY ISN'T EVEN GOING TO KICK IN FOR A YEAR AND A HALF OR SO AND THEN MAYBE ANOTHER YEAR TO FINISH CONSTRUCTION.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO, BUT YOU GOT TO THINK NOW.

APPRECIATE IT. NEXT SPEAKER IS CATHERINE REDDING.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL CATHERINE REDDING.

201 MEANDERING LANE.

I'M GOING TO ACTUALLY BE SORT OF ECHOING OFF OF WHAT BILL SAID.

SO THERE'S TWO THINGS I DO WANT THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER HAVING THEIR BUDGET OPEN FOR A REQUEST FOR AN SRO TO BE AT OUR ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS.

WE HAVE ABOUT 11 OF THEM.

THAT'S A TOUGH TOPIC.

IT'S A TOUGH BUDGET. I KNOW THAT HAS TO COINCIDE WITH THE BISD, BUT I'M GOING TO ASK THAT THE COUNCIL AT LEAST BE OPEN TO THOSE BUDGET AMENDMENTS IF THEY WERE TO COME FORWARD GIVEN THE RECENT EVENTS.

THE OTHER THING KIND OF TALKING A LITTLE BIT, WHAT MAYOR PRO TEM WAS TALKING ABOUT WAS, ARE WE JUMPING AHEAD? NOT THAT I DON'T THINK THAT WE ARE, BUT WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A JAIL STUDY BEING NEEDED AND I JUST WANTED TO KNOW, ARE WE GOING TO BE DOING THAT JAIL STUDY FIRST BEFORE WE SORT OF ASSESS THE ARCHITECTURAL PROCESS? OR ARE WE GOING TO BE DOING THE ARCHITECTURAL PROCESS FIRST AND THEN THE JAIL STUDY? AND THE REASON WHY I ASKED THAT IS BECAUSE THE BOND WAS GENERIC AND LANGUAGE TO PROVIDE FOR PUBLIC SAFETY.

BUT THE CITY MAYOR WENT OUT WITH SPECIFIC PAMPHLETS IDENTIFYING PROJECTS THAT WEREN'T LISTED ON THE BALLOT.

MY CONCERN IS SOMEWHAT OF THE SAME, IS TO ENSURE THE FUNDING THAT WAS PROMISED TO BE PD TO BFD GOES EXACTLY TO THOSE DEPARTMENTS AS THEY NEED.

I KNOW THAT THERE HAS ALREADY BEEN COMMENTS ABOUT MOVING OUT OF BUILDING AND CREATING ANOTHER BUILDING.

IT'S NOT THAT I'M NOT OPEN TO IT, BUT WE HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT WE COMMUNICATED CLEARLY SPECIFIC PROJECTS THAT WERE GOING TO BE ON THERE.

A COMMUNICATION CENTER WAS PART OF THE CONVERSATION, BUT I DON'T WANT A PROJECT OF A NEW BUILDING FOR COMMUNICATION STAFF OR WHATEVER AT THE COST OF 1015 MILLION TO TAKE AWAY FROM THE BPD ULTIMATELY EXPANDING.

SO MY CONCERN IS THAT WE STAY TO WHAT WAS PROMISED TO THE RESIDENTS, WHAT WAS MAILED TO THE RESIDENTS, WHAT WAS PUT ON QR CODES, WHICH WAS SPECIFIC PROJECTS, AND THAT THOSE ARE PRIORITIZED.

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AND I UNDERSTAND THAT WE CAN MOVE MONEY AROUND, BUT WE WERE SPECIFIC ABOUT WHAT WE WERE GOING TO BE PROMISING TO THE RESIDENTS.

SO THAT'S MY ONLY CONCERN.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE BOND MONEY GOES EXACTLY WHERE IT SAID.

I KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER PROJECTS AND THAT WAS IT.

WE DO HAVE 11 ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS.

AND SO ONCE AGAIN, THE BUDGET FOR SROS, I JUST WANT THE COUNCIL TO BE OPEN BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S A 50/50 SPLIT THAT IF THAT WERE TO COME TO THE TABLE THAT THE COUNCIL'S OPEN TO AMENDING OUR BUDGET TO ADD SROS FOR THOSE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS.

MAKES SENSE. THAT'S IT.

THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM 4, CITIZENS PRESENTATION.

[4. CITIZEN APPEARANCES Other than public hearings and items listed on the posted agenda, citizens in attendance who desire to speak to City Council may speak during this section. Speakers in attendance: Each person will be allowed three (3) minutes to speak and will not be interrupted by City Council or staff. If you would like to speak, please fill out a speaker card and give the completed card to the City Secretary prior to addressing City Council. Speakers not in attendance: Each person must fill out an online speaker card. Online speaker cards will be for items posted on the agenda only and must be submitted 30 minutes prior to the posted start time of the meeting. Online speaker cards will be read aloud by the City Secretary at the time the item is presented. Online speaker cards can be found on the city’s website, www.burlesontx.com on the agenda/notices page. Please note that City Council may only take action on items posted on the agenda. The Texas Open Meetings Act prohibits the City Council from deliberating or taking action on an item not listed on the agenda. City Council may, however, receive your comments on the unlisted item, ask clarifying questions, respond with facts, and explain policy.]

OTHER THAN PUBLIC HEARINGS AND ITEMS LISTED ON THE POSTED AGENDA, CITIZENS IN ATTENDANCE WHO DESIRE TO SPEAK TO THE CITY COUNCIL MAY SPEAK DURING THIS SECTION.

FOR SPEAKERS IN ATTENDANCE, EACH PERSON WILL BE ALLOWED 3 MINUTES TO SPEAK.

SPEAKERS NOT IN ATTENDANCE, ONLINE SPEAKER CARDS MUST BE SUBMITTED 30 MINUTES PRIOR TO THE POSTED START TIME FOR THE MEETING.

I DO HAVE ONE SPEAKER CARD FOR CITIZENS PRESENTATION.

MR. JANESH. BILL JANESH 117 NORTHEAST CLINTON.

I WANT TO TOUCH ON A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT THINGS.

OF COURSE, THE SCHOOL SHOOTING THAT WAS JUST CATASTROPHIC ALL THE WAY AROUND THE LOSS OF ANY LIFE LIKE THAT ESPECIALLY WITH CHILDREN.

I MEAN, IT'S LIKE I'VE MENTIONED BEFORE, I'VE LOST A CHILD, BUT I HAD 13 MONTHS TO SAY GOODBYE.

WHEN YOU SEND A KID OFF TO SCHOOL AND THEY DON'T COME BACK AND THEY'RE LAYING THERE FOR HOURS ON END, THAT'LL DESTROY A PERSON FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIFE.

THERE WAS SOME GOOD NEWS, THOUGH.

NOT TOO LONG AGO WE HAD A, WELL I SAY GOOD NEWS, GOOD NEWS, BAD NEWS WITH THE ECONOMY, GAS PRICES GOING UP, STUFF LIKE THAT.

THE AVERAGE WORKING PERSON SOMETIMES NOT EVEN GOING TO KNOW WHERE THE EXTRA MONEY IS GOING TO COME FROM FOR THE NEXT MEAL.

THERE'S A SHORTAGE OF BABY FORMULA.

WE HAD A TWO AREA GUYS JUST HAPPENED TO BE BROTHERS OTTO AND BENJI.

BENJI TOOK IT UPON HIMSELF THROUGH A SOURCE TO LOCATE BABY FORMULA THAT WAS NEVER GOING TO BE INTENDED FOR END USER.

BUT HE ACQUIRED A FORMULA.

THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS WORTH.

ORIGINALLY, HE WAS GOING TO SELL IT AT COST, BUT DECIDED TO GIVE IT AWAY, KNOWING THAT SOME OF THESE SINGLE MOMS AND GRANDPARENTS RAISING THEIR GRANDKIDS SO THEY COULD GET IT. THIS WENT NATIONWIDE.

THOSE OTHER GROUPS, OTHER COMPANIES, LARGE COMPANIES.

MATTER OF FACT, EVERY MAJOR NATIONAL NETWORK COVERED THIS STORY.

THERE ARE GROUPS REACHING OUT, COMING UP WITH HUNDREDS OF CASES, GIVING IT OUT ALL FOR FREE.

THAT'S WHAT BENJI DID.

BENJI AND OTTO BOTH STEPPED UP.

AND THAT'S THE TYPE OF THING THAT I LIKE TO SEE IN PEOPLE, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE NOT FROM BURLESON.

OTTO OPERATES HERE.

BENJI'S CLOSE ENOUGH.

WE'VE HAD OTHER THINGS LIKE WITH DEFAMATION, JOHNNY DEPP, CAPTAIN JACK, HE WON A LITTLE CASE YESTERDAY, $15 MILLION.

I HOPE THAT SETS A PRECEDENCE ACROSS THE NATION THAT PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO EMBARK ON MAKING UP STORIES OF CRIMES THAT NEVER HAPPENED. I WANT TO SEE THEM PAY.

AND WHAT JIMMY WAS TALKING TO EARLIER, THERE WAS A FACEBOOK POST AND I'M GLAD THAT THE CHIEF TALKED ABOUT IT.

OR SAID THEY'VE COME TO LEARN THAT THE VPD IN THE CITY OF BURLESON DOWNPLAYS A LOT OF THE CRIMES IN ORDER TO KEEP THE STATS LOW.

AS IF BURLESON IS A SAFE CITY, I BELIEVE BURLESON IS A SAFE CITY.

THAT ALL COMES DOWN TO THE PEOPLE.

EITHER YOUR HEART'S IN IT OR IT'S NOT.

I BELIEVE THE CHIEF, ALL HIS PEOPLE.

I BELIEVE THAT THEY'RE ALL IN IT.

I BELIEVE MOST PEOPLE ARE.

THERE'S A FEW SET OUT TO DESTROY, BUT I THINK THE REST ARE GOOD.

THERE'S NO FURTHER FURTHER CARDS.

IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL? PLEASE COME FORWARD.

AT THIS TIME, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, THAT BRINGS US TO SECTION FIVE, EXECUTIVE SESSION.

[5. RECESS INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION Pursuant to Section 551.071, Texas Government Code, the Council reserves the right to convene in Executive Session(s), from time to time as deemed necessary during this meeting for any posted agenda item, to receive advice from its attorney as permitted by law. Pending or Contemplated Litigation or to Seek the Advice of the City Attorney Pursuant to Section 551.071 Land use, design standards, and density in the City's transit-oriented development district Discuss and receive direction on nuisance and code enforcement issues on the property located at 105 NE Cindy Lane in Burleson, Johnson County, Texas, and remedies available under law Michael Fagan and Kimberly Fagan v. Homes By Towne of Texas, Inc. et al., Cause No. DC-C202100269, In the 413th Judicial District Court, Johnson County, Texas Discussion Regarding Possible Purchase, Exchange, Lease, or Value of Real Property Pursuant to Section 551.072 Discuss and receive direction on certain parcels of real property for municipal purposes where deliberation in open session would have a detrimental effect on the position of negotiations with third parties Deliberation regarding a negotiated contract for a prospective gift or donation to the state or the governmental body Pursuant to Section 551.073 Personnel Matters Pursuant to Section 551.074 Review, deliberate, and discuss the annual performance evaluation, duties, benefits, compensation, and contract of the City Secretary Deliberation regarding (1) the deployment, or specific occasions for implementation of security personnel or devices; or (2) a security audit Pursuant to Sec. 551.076 Deliberation Regarding Commercial or Financial Information Received from or the Offer of a Financial or Other Incentive made to a Business Prospect Seeking to Locate, Stay or Expand in or Near the Territory of the City and with which the City is conducting Economic Development Negotiations Pursuant to Section 551.087 Pursuant to Sec. 418.183(f), deliberation of information related to managing emergencies and disasters including those caused by terroristic acts (must be tape recorded)]

PURSUANT TO SECTION 551.071 TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, THE COUNCIL RESERVES THE RIGHT TO CONVENE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FROM TIME TO TIME, AS DEEMED NECESSARY.

THERE'S A NEED FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION.

AT THIS TIME, THE COUNCIL WILL CONVENE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO SECTION 551.071, SECTION 551.072 AND SECTION 551.087.

MAYOR IF YOU COULD CALL FOR A MOTION AND A VOTE TO CONVENE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AND STATE THE TIME.

IS THERE A MOTION? SECOND.

[04:00:09]

I HAVE A MOTION BY JIMMY AND A SECOND BY DID YOU CHANGE YOUR MIND? VICTORIA. IT WAS A DELAYED..

PLEASE VOTE.

MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUS, CALLING THE SESSION AT 1:10.

MAYOR, IF YOU COULD CALL FOR A MOTION AND A VOTE TO RECONVENE INTO OPEN SESSION AND STATE THE TIME.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

IS THERE A MOTION TO RECONVENE? I'VE GOT A MOTION BY VICTORIA AND A SECOND BY DAN, PLEASE VOTE.

PASSES UNANIMOUS.

WE HAVE ANYTHING. MONICA.

MAYOR, IF YOU COULD CALL FOR A MOTION AND A SECOND TO ADJOURN WITH NO VOTE AND STATE THE TIME.

IS THERE A MOTION? SECOND, NEED TO SECOND.

SO. I GOT A MOTION TO LEAVE BY DAN AND A SECOND BY JIMMY.

WE'RE DONE AT 2:22.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.